#better-mc-forge
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so i am just downloaded the modpack
and tried playing it
and it redirected me here saying i have a mod that is incompatable
does someone by any chance know which mod it is
essentials
you have to be joking
!cracked
If you are using a cracked Minecraft launcher, we can not assist with your issue. In order to receive help, you need to switch to an approved launcher and provide proof you have purchased Minecraft. This is due to the terms of service and guideline agreements of both Mojang and Discord.
upload your log, we cant really know what mods you have added on top of the pack unless you show us
to be fair with you
if you do have the essential mod, yes thats likely the problem
the only mods i have are the onest that come with downloading it
well fuck
!ws
Our modpacks don't support any mods that add singleplayer hosting / world sharing because we already provide free world sharing. The 'Essential' mod is therefore incompatible.
To share your world using our own world hosting, click the 'Open to Lan' or 'Share World' button in the game menu when in a singleplayer world, and share the world.
It will give you an address, like magma-cube.mc.lunapixel.gg, which your friends can use to connect directly to your world as if it were a server!
We still highly suggest not to play through LAN as LAN is untested and unreliable. Using it will cause longterm damage to your world.
There is no reason to use LAN, as we support both paid and free methods of hosting a server the normal way.
okay i will try again
thats lit
meh
it's so laggy it's just unplayable with more than 3 people and waypoints and the map reset for everyone except the host
I got the lantern and it says slot belt is there a way I can attach it to my hip or something?
is it possible to check which mods are causing my game to crash on mobile?
u cannot get support when using a cracked launcher
no one can help u bff
click on the accessories icon
the cloud right?
the other one
well
it is what it is
in deperate times you need desperate solutions
you could buy a bisect server
Better MC 4 - v39 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
- 1.20.1 [FORGE]
- What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
- Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
- v39
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
- What steps cause the crash?
latest.log | crash-2025-03-30_13.21.30-client.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher
Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
[2;32m23[0m added, [2;31m0[0m removed, [2;34m1[0m updated.
``` alright i cave sorry for not using the copy all button earlier but here it is. I really want to be able to play with these mods im adding so sorry for before here is the link if i could get help thanks.
Where are the server IPs?
whats the difference between these?
like i want to use the first one but its only on version 1.20
is there a way to combine them
I'm on v39 and I can't get hostile mobs to spawn naturally, they only spawn from spawners
How am I suppose to do that whenever I cannot get into game at all?
due to that error
Where is the sort button for the item's in the new update? It's just gone.
I am on BMC4 1.20.1 V38 through Curseforge. I have added a good amount of mods to it. I am using the modpack to host a server through my pc with the V38 server pack plus the additional mods. The server ran fine yesterday and this morning but now it just loses connection. The server stays up fine and the game doesn't crash, but I lose connection from the server before I even fully load in. I get this error on Minecraft: [Internal Exception: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "net.minecraft.nbt.CompoundTag.m128459(String)" because "nbt" is null] and this error on the Curseforge logs: [Couldn't read layer file minecraft:animated_layers/player/travelersbackpack.json for entity.minecraft.player: com.tiviacz.travelersbackpack.client.renderer.TravelersBackpackLayer]. There is no crash report to upload as nothing is actually crashing, just a connection loss when joing the world. Here is the log on the server from the time I join to the time I lose connection:
[13:12:24] [Server thread/INFO] [minecraft/PlayerList]: Bacon441[/127.205.217.209:9010] logged in with entity id 872 at (1841.0433106621624, 84.0, -382.2403395264765)
[13:12:24] [Server thread/INFO] [ModdingLegacy/blue_skies/]: Sending ToolHandleTypeManager to Bacon441
[13:12:24] [Server thread/INFO] [ModdingLegacy/blue_skies/]: Sending SnowcapOvenFreezingManager to Bacon441
[13:12:24] [Server thread/INFO] [ModdingLegacy/blue_skies/]: Sending HorizoniteForgeFuelManager to Bacon441
[13:12:24] [Server thread/INFO] [ModdingLegacy/blue_skies/]: Sending AlchemyRecipeManager to Bacon441
[13:12:24] [Server thread/INFO] [ModdingLegacy/blue_skies/]: Sending JournalEntryManager to Bacon441
[13:12:24] [Server thread/INFO] [ModdingLegacy/blue_skies/]: Sending JournalSectionManager to Bacon441
[13:12:24] [Server thread/INFO] [ModdingLegacy/blue_skies/]: Sending JournalRequirementManager to Bacon441
[13:12:24] [Server thread/INFO] [minecraft/MinecraftServer]: Bacon441 joined the game
[13:12:24] [Server thread/INFO] [Jade/]: Syncing config to Bacon441 (02a4c6c3-5dac-403c-9558-0fa6f31ff314)
[13:12:24] [Server thread/INFO] [xa.pa.OpenPartiesAndClaims/]: Updating all forceload tickets for 02a4c6c3-5dac-403c-9558-0fa6f31ff314
[13:12:25] [Server thread/INFO] [ping-wheel/]: Channel update: Bacon441 -> default
[13:12:33] [Server thread/INFO] [minecraft/ServerGamePacketListenerImpl]: Bacon441 lost connection: Disconnected
[13:12:33] [Server thread/INFO] [minecraft/MinecraftServer]: Bacon441 left the game
[13:12:33] [Server thread/INFO] [xa.pa.OpenPartiesAndClaims/]: Updating all forceload tickets for 02a4c6c3-5dac-403c-9558-0fa6f31ff314
i think there might be a problem with "travelers backpack" since the log on Curseforge mention it
That's what was confusing me, I get that error message even though I don't have the mod
💀
I tried adding the mod just to see and it changed nothing
I was getting a similar error for the wavey capes mod which I also didn't have. I added that one and the error went away for some reason.
Better MC 4 - v39 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
- 1.20.1 [FORGE]
CurseForge
Modpack was unchanged
v39
The game always crashes when i try to use this modpack
i am unsure what steps are causing this crasj
latest.log | hs_err_pid12118.log | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher
Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
Updated mods:
[2;34mstoragenetwork[0m ([2;31m1.12.2[0m > [2;32m1.11.3[0m)
better mc keeps crashing - does anyone have ay idea how to fix it? im on a mac
This is the same issue I am having but on windows
xD
Yopooo where did you get that. O:
I know you can get to 5 with Ancient Tomes, but I've never seen above that.
I killed some skeleton in a structure
Full of diamond armor zombies
crazy.
might be a rare loot drop. You can use the anvil and a single book to strip that off the leather pants and put it on whatever armor you want lol
There's a gobbie trader that trades Sharpness 7 rarely for 5 dragon heads so getting enchants above what we can reach with the tables seems intentional
But I got protection 8 from a single skeleton
How?
a bunch of zombies just spawned inside my claim despite having disabled hostile spawns is this normal?
you can compare the mod lists for differences, besides being on differnet modloaders. no u cannot combine them
Idk
these guys. you can find them in the world through dungeons/loot generations, or a max level Librarian can trade you for them.
yeah I'm gonna have to start watching the leather gear I get for high level enchants instead of trashing it instantly lol
Hello, my game keeps crashing and i tried ATLauncher which at first was working way better that Curse Forge, but then started to crash again. I thought it was when i was entering/exiting the nether/aether but i seemingly crashes out of nowhere
- What Minecraft version are you using? 1.20.1
2.What launcher did you run Minecraft with? ATLauncher - Have you changed the modpack in any way? no
- What version of the modpack are you using? v38
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? Always crash
- What steps cause the crash? It crashes when i enter/exit nether/aether but also out of nowhere
Required:
Open the game directory (right click pack -> open folder), navigate to the "crash-reports" folder and upload the latest available crash report.
If there is no crash report, navigate to the logs folder and upload "latest.log."
If there is no log, navigate to the base pack directory and upload the hs_err_pid file, if there is one.
Uploaded crash-2025-03-30_10.53.33-server.txt from @torn carbon to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/qZFLX1G
hola, alguien me puede ayudar ? se me crashea el juego apenas entro, de echo ni si quiera me deja entrar a mi mundo de BMC cuando entro a mi mundo me aparece cargando terreno y de ahi se me cierra sin dejarme entrar al mundo y me aparece esto
did you figure this out by any chance?
#better-mc-forge message oops i can't read
In BMC4 does anyone know what the curios slots are for? So far I’ve got a backpack and a lantern in the belt slot. I know about the charms and the trophy hats.
hit the upload all button and paste it in here
if you search for #slot in the JEI search on the right it'll show you stuff that can go there (or in the aether inventory spots)
help
it's done this to me before on curse forge and i just delete then reinstall the modpack
but it's not wprkng this time
i just wanna play mc before bible study
I updated my server to the newest mod pack version but my server isn't starting now. Can i post the error messages?
seems like m e and you having the same problem
gg
it explains it to you here that the server has a different version of the biomesoplenty mod then you have
maybe your server is on v38 and you on v39
so if atl launcher is updating better mc should the servers inside not update as well?
why would a clients launcher update a server
you have to update the server itself too yes
idk if you can tell or not but this isnt my strong suit that's why i'm asking for help
if you don't own the server yourself, then you need to make sure you're matching the version of the server you've been playing on.
then you have to go on your server host and update it
!updateserver
00:00 Update Server Locally
01:19 Update on Server Host/Bisect Hosting Premium
01:39 Update on Server Host/Bisect Hosting Premium
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couks you try updating to v39 first to see if it resolves it
thank you zep
I am on BMC4 1.20.1 V38 through Curseforge. I have added a good amount of mods to it. I am using the modpack to host a server through my pc with the V38 server pack plus the additional mods. The server ran fine yesterday and this morning but now it just loses connection. If I add or remove mods the game crashes. Someone else has told me it looks to be bjornlob, fancymenu, and epic fight causing the problem even though they didn't cause problems until now.
Uploaded crash-2025-03-30_14.22.14-client.txt from @raw girder to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/XNj5lTb
Better MC 5 - v22.5 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
- 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
- What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
- Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
- v22.5
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
- What steps cause the crash?
latest.log | debug.log | crash-2025-03-30_13.55.48-client.txt | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log
Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
Removed mods:
[2;31mSnowRealMagic-1.21.1-NeoForge-11.1.0.jar[0m
Updated mods:
[2;34mbettergrass[0m ([2;31m1.5.0+neoforge.1.21.1[0m > [2;32m1.5.1+neoforge.1.21.1[0m)
!macjdk
For Mac devices using Apple Silicon/arm (M1/M2/etc.) CPUs
There is an issue with Java 17.0.8 and newer where you may experience "A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment", which can cause the Java runtime to crash under a variety of circumstances. To resolve this:
Mac:
- Go here and hover over the Download buttons until you see one with the option to install a .dmg file. If you have an M-series Mac, then make sure to install the ARM64 version of this file.
- Install ATLauncher and open it. For more information on how to install and use ATLauncher, run the
!alternatescommand in #bots. - Click "Settings" on the right
- Click "Java/Minecraft" at the top
- Set "Use Java Provided by Minecraft" to false by unchecking the checkbox
- Manually specify the following Java path in the text box to the left to the "Reset" button:
/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/zulu-21.jdk/Contents/Home
you are a few versions behind
try updating first
it is epic fight yeah
have you sent out your crash reports and suxh
How do I update without losing the world?
if not send them so we can assist you
copy and paste the saves folder somewhere else
after installing rhe new version paste them in
!updatemodpack
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this video goes through the steps
yes 2 times. The first was to give out the info to fix. I fixed my Java version to 21. I fixed my bios and cpu. I am on windows 11
which windows 11 isnt the issue duh
So removing it will fix it even though modernfix, fancymenu, and bjornlib seem to ahve a problem too?
thank you
Can this modpack be run on Fedora41 (linux)/through the prism launcher? Getting some crash errors, but don't want to delve into them if it isn't possible.
try using the command the announcement in #announcements lists
it is but you might get problems with some of the libraries
!logs see if you have a hs err pid and send it here
To better assist with fixing your issue, we will need some logs:
-
Curseforge -> Right click the modpack instance -> Open Folder.
-
ATLauncher -> Click 'Open Folder' on the modpack instance.
-
MultiMC -> Select your instace and click 'Instance Folder' on the right.
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** For servers** -> Open the folder containing your server files.
To find the latest.log file, navigate to the 'logs' folder.
To find the hs_err_pid.log file, simply look for the file name after opening the instance folder.
To find a crash report, navigate to the 'crash-reports folder and find the most recent file after your crash occurred.
Once located, please upload the requested file here. If it fails, upload to https://mclo.gs/ and share the link here.
@near egret This is the problem ive been having. Dont feel like pasting a third time
how much total ram does your pc have
16gb of ram
somehow its using 10gb of ram with just discord
deditated wam
!paging try following these steps
How To View Paging File Size
Before anything else screenshot how much disk space each of your drives have and post it as it might be caused by low disk space.
From the Windows search button search up "Advanced System Settings" and open the first result.
Press the "Settings" button located under the Performance section.
In the new section that has opened press "Advanced" and after press the "Change" button located under the "Virtual Memory" section.
After locating it screenshot the resulting page and post it.
I love that meme
where do i get the new server pack from or even how did he attain it, the video just shows him having it but not really showing me what to do
different minecraft versions so naturally different modlists
but no it isnt possible to merge them
go into the better mc modpacks curseforge page
click on versions click on the latest version
and then click on additional files
@near egret This is the result I got from doing this instruction
make sure its bmc 4
screenshot your disk spaces and screenshot the shole page
im using atl launcher is why
whole page*
Is this it?
my simple storage keep reverting to 1.11.3 everytime i update to the new version
running curse forge
i keep manualy updating it and it works untill i get a new version
try clearing up space in your c drive
alright that will take a while. Once done is is fine to get back to you?
Do we have any better Minecraft experts
!fps follow the memory part of this guide
Better MC 4 - v39 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
- 1.20.1 [FORGE]
- What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) Tl
- Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?no
- v39
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? always crash
- What steps cause the crash? when i start the launcher
latest.log | tlauncher_03_30_2025_20_48_21.log | crash_assistant_app.log
Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
Added mods:
[2;32mpreview_OptiFine_1.20.1_HD_U_I6_pre6.jar[0m
[2;32mtl_skin_cape_forge_1.20_1.20.1-1.32.jar[0m
Updated mods:
[2;34mstoragenetwork[0m ([2;31m1.12.2[0m > [2;32m1.11.3[0m)
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Why does my game keep crashing
- 1.20.1 FORGE
- Curseforge
- No
- v39
- I haven't crashed
I just was some assistance with these missing mods.toml on my server. I'm using shockbyte hosting if that helps.
Uploaded latest.log from @full steeple to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/GzGlXE8
they are fine to ignore
if the log is spammy or bothering
sweet thank you
sweet tysm
does a white screen with text pop up when you crash
Kinda
Shows some errors
it’s usually ok but I was fighting a boss and it happened all of a sudden
Second time it’s happened and the first time it happened, it wiped my friends data on the world
!moreinfo answer these questions and make sure to attach a latest log
- What Minecraft version are you using? (1.19.2, 1.20.1, ...)
- What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
- Have you changed the modpack in any way? (e.g. changing mod versions, adding/removing mods)
- What version of the modpack are you using? (v11, v9, etc)
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
- What steps cause the crash?
Required:
Open the game directory (right click pack -> open folder), navigate to the "crash-reports" folder and upload the latest available crash report.
If there is no crash report, navigate to the logs folder and upload "latest.log."
If there is no log, navigate to the base pack directory and upload the hs_err_pid file, if there is one.
i have never heard of crashes wiping data here tho
ill have to see what that is about
ok soupdatied the files going through bisect and the server wont even boot up
13 seconds into starting up it crashes
It wasn’t my data it was specifically my friend
everything in inventory and ender chest
send in the crash report
Hey is better mc removed from alternos i can't find it
yeah it is
where can i find that
idk
is there a way i can still play it or anything i can do
Our modpacks don't support any mods that add singleplayer hosting / world sharing because we already provide free world sharing. The 'Essential' mod is therefore incompatible.
To share your world using our own world hosting, click the 'Open to Lan' or 'Share World' button in the game menu when in a singleplayer world, and share the world.
It will give you an address, like magma-cube.mc.lunapixel.gg, which your friends can use to connect directly to your world as if it were a server!
We still highly suggest not to play through LAN as LAN is untested and unreliable. Using it will cause longterm damage to your world.
There is no reason to use LAN, as we support both paid and free methods of hosting a server the normal way.
or !server for selfhosting
better mc5 neoforge it keeps crashing before the title screen?
crash-reports folder
does a white screen with text pop up
when you crash
yea
would there be any way of me transfering my world files from alternos to another server provider then where it is possible to use the mod
all the world/player related data is in the "world" folder
but idk if aternos lets you download it
if it does then that would be the folder you would need to transfer
I have my latest world save on google drive
then yeah should be
Better MC 5 - v25 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
- 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
- What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
- Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
- v25
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
- What steps cause the crash?
latest.log | hs_err_pid19340.log | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher
Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
Added mods:
[2;32minventoryhud.neoforged.1.21.1-3.4.26.jar[0m
Removed mods:
[2;31mStylishEffects-v21.1.1-1.21.1-NeoForge.jar[0m
there is not a file in atl launcher named crash reportd
this shit is genuiely pissing me off
how much ram does your pc have
send your latest.log then
from the servers folder
not atlauncher
it doesn't max out the allocation before crashing
and also is the "better mc (forge) BMC4 the same modpack as the one i had used previously. THis one was updated today and my old one seems to not be getting updates anymore
thje old one was bmc3
just saw
bmc 3 and 4 are different modpacks for different minecraft versions if that's what you are asking
so i should try the normal launch instead of auto?
would using bmc4 be compatible with my old world that used bmc3
not you
there's 5,000,000 characters in this log
upload it here
are you sure you have enough ram available to allocate 6
if so do these steps and screenshot the specified pages
!paging
How To View Paging File Size
Before anything else screenshot how much disk space each of your drives have and post it as it might be caused by low disk space.
From the Windows search button search up "Advanced System Settings" and open the first result.
Press the "Settings" button located under the Performance section.
In the new section that has opened press "Advanced" and after press the "Change" button located under the "Virtual Memory" section.
After locating it screenshot the resulting page and post it.
Uploaded message.txt from @sterile topaz to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/ZG8NYGn
6Gb?
yeah
yea
what video
the one you sent to update my server?
i download the mod pack from curse forge then opened bisect hosting
deleted the mods, configs, and defualt configs folders then replaced them with the "new" ones
@near egret After all this trouble with people saying its java 21 or its a bios problem lol. It was a storage problem
its fixed
screenshot your bisect root folder
and then the insides of the mods folder
you are loading in no mods as far as i cans ee
yeah that's what im seeing too
it's empty
the mod folder is
what is the root under
try zipping up the mods config defaultconfig folders inside a single zip
and then upload that
and then extract
decor
Why is world sharing not working
extract
and screenshot the root folder
so its like
the first screen that appears when you click files
which is whats called root folder
screenshot the contents of the mods folder
can you scroll down in the bisect website
maybe the zip file is on the bottom
unarchive
alr now what
the server is starting up hold on
i might be a little slow, but i've been pc gaming for years now and this is the stupidest shit ever
i actually have a headache
are there any magic mods on bmc
some weapons
like the ice crystal
things from cataclysm
if i had to guess you added an extra incompatiable mod
what launcher?
at?
ok it s works
at launcher?
thank you everyone for your patience
what i use and what they reccomend on this is atlauncher
idk ab t launcher
the crash report should say
Hello people, im new here and try to get my Server running with the Modpack. I added some mods into it aswell but in Singleplayer everything works fine. Can someone tell me where I could ask for help?
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whatd he do?
ahh
omg i cant ttpe
did not know that
it would be here
send in your crash report
from the servers folser
Uploaded latest.log from @foggy sonnet to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/xjwZo4U
update to v39
this should be fixed in that version (oopsie different crash)
- BMC4 1.20.1
- Curseforge
- Added mods
- V38
- No
- Starting up my custom server crashes the game. It is also not creating a crash report when crashing. I am trying to add Arrzee's Superhero Multiverse mod. I had to add KubeJS and Dampened as dependencies. Rhino also auto installed as what I'm assuming to be a dependency for KubeJS. After adding these 4 mods the server just loops contiunously saying it's attempting to restart without generating a crash report. I will add the latest log here, the only failure looks like a fatal error regarding KubeJS. Is there a way to fix it so that I can run this mod?
Uploaded latest.log from @raw girder to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/Jgy7h66
delete particle effects
is it possible to put only power III and keep unbreaking III on the book since my bow already has unbreaking III
I already tried that but I can do it again and send you the new log
yeah do that and send me the new log
guys only for me destroying a dirt path don't give me dirt block?
@near egret
Uploaded latest_2.log from @foggy sonnet to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/KlzlRRp
The log just randomly stops at a random mod everytime, I doubt that in this case the "Easy Mob Farm" mod is the issue
i think i get the problem now
What folders/files are important to back up, or should I just back up the entire folder for a minecraft server?
you seem to have client side mods
in your server mods folder
how is the server hosted
if its for the world its the "world" folder
Its hosted with a normal server host provider, so not local. I can also tell the provider if thats allowed
say I want to recreate the server and have it (almost) 1:1, would the world folder be enough + the mod pack's config/mods, and server properties?
have the provider take a look at it then
is it a known problem?
confif and mods shouldn't be backed up as they need to ne replaced update to update
sorry, I meant just have the world backed up only and then add the modpack stuff
So the client side mods are not the problem?
idk off the top of my head all the generated ones that could make a difference
but server.propertkes can be backe dup ueah
by client side i mean
alright I'll probably just do world then
mods like oculus which shouldn't be in a servers mod folder
are inside the servers mod folder
if that was in by default and not added by you
then its prob a problem with the providers server files
v39? lol
every update scares tf out of me lol
spent like a month just to figure out lazyy was making my game run at 50 fps
I added the modpack normally to the Server with the curseforge Link. That Mod is from the Modpack itself and not from me. I opened a Ticket there and maybe they have a clue cuz im troubleshooting for hours now
does your server allow for file transfers
if so download the serverpack and then transfer the folders inside
It automatically takes the server pack
is there a way to get better 1% fps lows
like i get 330 fps but 55 1% and it stutters
how do i make a server
cause I've heard theres like a free way to make one I'm just trying to play with a few friends
download the server files from curseforge
like go to the bmc mod page and go to additonal files
the server file is there
what i do to play w friends is use a free vpn like radmin or others like zerotier i likeradmin tho
!server the selfhosting guide should help you out
Free Method
To host a server on your own computer, read the selfhosting guide.
This guide goes over how to install, create, and launch a free Minecraft server on all operating systems (MacOS, Linux and Windows). The guide also guides you through installing Java and optimizing your server for better performance.
If you are installing one of our older modpacks, ignore the "README" file that is included in the serverpack files, as they have outdated information.
Paid Method
We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.
Go here and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.
Go to #server-hosting for more Info!
The following advice works for both the Free and Paid methods:
Transferring Your World
If you're playing Singleplayer and want to transfer your world to your server, simply go to your modpack files and navigate to the saves folder. Inside of this folder, you will see your world saves. Rename your desired world save to world. You can then transfer this folder to your server files. If your world was hosted via world sharing, this process has to be done by the person who would click "Share World".
Fixing Lag
To resolve lag issues, simply run the !tps command in #bots and follow the directions provided.
yeah
- BMC4 1.20.1
- Curseforge
- Added mods
- V38
- No
- Starting up my custom server crashes the game. It is also not creating a crash report when crashing. I am trying to add Arrzee's Superhero Multiverse mod. I had to add KubeJS and Dampened as dependencies. Rhino also auto installed as what I'm assuming to be a dependency for KubeJS. After adding these 4 mods the server just loops contiunously saying it's attempting to restart without generating a crash report. I will add the latest log here, the only failure looks like a fatal error regarding KubeJS. Is there a way to fix it so that I can run this mod? The game also instantly crashes when launched.
Uploaded latest.log from @raw girder to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/smz5Ecf
i do not think so
lps only uses datapacks and chloe said it was incompat before or something iirc
@near egret I think I fixed it, I just had to remove xaeros map stuff
lps?
Failed to start the minecraft server
net.minecraftforge.fml.LoadingFailedException: Loading errors encountered: [
CIT Resewn (citresewn) has failed to load correctly
§7java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/client/renderer/texture/atlas/SpriteSource,
Oculus (oculus) has failed to load correctly
§7java.lang.RuntimeException: Attempted to load class net/minecraft/client/gui/screens/Screen for invalid dist DEDICATED_SERVER,
XaeroPlus (xaeroplus) has failed to load correctly
these mods have the same error as it
that's why i said the server has client sided mods
particle effects was one of it
luna pixel studios
so aarzee's superhero multiverse is just incompatible?
yeah thank you
aight
Better MC 4 - v38 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
- 1.20.1 [FORGE]
- What launcher did you run Minecraft with? CurseForge
- Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? No
- v38
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? The game crashes with this same error each time OR will make my computer restart/crash
- What steps cause the crash? installed modpack > press play forge > play through minecraft launcher> crash after a few seconds
latest.log | crash-2025-03-30_13.46.22-client.txt | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log
Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
[2;34mMod list wasn't modified.[0m
!alternates try reinstalling like this
If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.
To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM
To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.
anyone has reported this issue?
@near egret The Server starts now and all but as soon as I try to connect I get this, do you maybe know about that?
Hey guys👋🏻 so today I tried to add the Create mod and some addons of it to the pack, but it didnt work out tho I used the right version of the mods. Are the two not compatible or am I just stupid😅
did a white screen with text pop up when you crashed
It did
i think this happened when one side didn't have krypton installed
press upload all and copy make a post in #1061339968691257466 and paste there
ill help you out there
well but krypton is a fabric mod
Will definetely do tmrw but its a bit late now lol
I see, I will try
Better MC 4 - v39 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
- 1.20.1 [FORGE]
- What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
Curse Forge - Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
No, except for like updating the mods. - v39
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
No, the game seems to be always crashing - What steps cause the crash?
Everything seems to work fine until i create a new world, then after a few seconds it crashes.
latest.log | hs_err_pid10166.log | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher
Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
Removed mods:
[2;31mSimpleStorageNetwork-1.20.1-1.12.2.jar[0m
Updated mods:
[2;34mcollective[0m ([2;31m7.94[0m > [2;32m8.1[0m)
Better MC 4 - v39 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
- 1.20.1 [FORGE]
- What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
- Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
- v39
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
- What steps cause the crash?
latest.log | hs_err_pid111756.log | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | i9-14900kf can be reason of crash
Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
Updated mods:
[2;34mstoragenetwork[0m ([2;31m1.12.2[0m > [2;32m1.11.3[0m)
how do i fix this?
!macjdk
For Mac devices using Apple Silicon/arm (M1/M2/etc.) CPUs
There is an issue with Java 17.0.8 and newer where you may experience "A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment", which can cause the Java runtime to crash under a variety of circumstances. To resolve this:
Mac:
- Go here and hover over the Download buttons until you see one with the option to install a .dmg file. If you have an M-series Mac, then make sure to install the ARM64 version of this file.
- Install ATLauncher and open it. For more information on how to install and use ATLauncher, run the
!alternatescommand in #bots. - Click "Settings" on the right
- Click "Java/Minecraft" at the top
- Set "Use Java Provided by Minecraft" to false by unchecking the checkbox
- Manually specify the following Java path in the text box to the left to the "Reset" button:
/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/zulu-21.jdk/Contents/Home
could you try reinstalling with atlauncher first and see if it crashes again
i cant find better mc in atlauncher
can you screenshot the search page
!alternates follow this and reinstall
If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.
To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM
To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.
Better MC 4 - v38 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
- 1.20.1 [FORGE]
- What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
- Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
- v38
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
- What steps cause the crash?
latest.log | crash_assistant_app.log | CurseForge: skip launcher
Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
[2;34mMod list wasn't modified.[0m
try following this guide and see if it helps you
!fps
BMC5 v25 or BMC4 v39??
is there not an auto sort button anymore? it's just gone now
is there a way to get better 1% fps lows
like i get 330 fps but 55 1% and it stutters
Hey, what xp farm do ya'll make in better minecraft?
How many GB RAM should I choose?
single player or making a server
!fps
the middle click should sort stuff now
does anybody else seem like no animals spawn in the wild. I cant find any sheep for farms
is there a way to get to an earlier version of the world ?
what version of the modpack are you ob
1.20.1
Hey, what xp farm do ya'll make in better minecraft?
ahh i see thank you
TLauncher is known spyware and is also unable to install mods or modpacks correctly. Because we offer no support for piracy due to Discord TOS, you will need to provide proof you own a legitimate copy of Minecraft or leave the server. For a safe, working way to install both mods and modpacks, read the #faq guide on installing modpacks.
!ea
The Essential mod is completely incompatible with all of our modpacks, and there's no reason to use it. All of our modpacks already come with built-in, free world hosting, by clicking the "Share World' button in the Open to LAN menu. You can learn more by typing !ws in the #bots channel. You can also run type !server in the same channel to learn how to properly host a server for better performance and more flexibility. In modpacks that aren't owned by us, you can use mods such as e4mc or WorldHost to host a server completely for free without Essential's many issues and crashes and the microtransactions that they constantly bother users with. To learn more about alternatives to the Essential mod, check out this website.
please do not try to bypass the Essential error
there is absolutely no reason to do this
Essential causes world corruption and many other issues
Tbe modpack already comes built in with free world sharing and hosting a server on your PC the normal way is very easy
!server just host on your PC
Free Method
To host a server on your own computer, read the selfhosting guide.
This guide goes over how to install, create, and launch a free Minecraft server on all operating systems (MacOS, Linux and Windows). The guide also guides you through installing Java and optimizing your server for better performance.
If you are installing one of our older modpacks, ignore the "README" file that is included in the serverpack files, as they have outdated information.
Paid Method
We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.
Go here and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.
Go to #server-hosting for more Info!
The following advice works for both the Free and Paid methods:
Transferring Your World
If you're playing Singleplayer and want to transfer your world to your server, simply go to your modpack files and navigate to the saves folder. Inside of this folder, you will see your world saves. Rename your desired world save to world. You can then transfer this folder to your server files. If your world was hosted via world sharing, this process has to be done by the person who would click "Share World".
Fixing Lag
To resolve lag issues, simply run the !tps command in #bots and follow the directions provided.
please read the quest book ingame
please read the changelog
send a screenshot of your Java tab in ATLauncher instead then
should i update from v38 to v39 my server hasn't had any problems with mob spawning. I added a few mods to the pack, so would i do a fresh install of the pack and readd the mods?
I'm dyslexic and I have a hard time reading and discord can read my messages to me. That's why I asked.
It’s already fixed the whole issue. It was because my storage on my c drive was full
yes you should update to v39, and yes you should do a fresh install
Hello, is it possible to add the "Essential" mod to the modpack? I want to play with my friends
!ea
The Essential mod is completely incompatible with all of our modpacks, and there's no reason to use it. All of our modpacks already come with built-in, free world hosting, by clicking the "Share World' button in the Open to LAN menu. You can learn more by typing !ws in the #bots channel. You can also run type !server in the same channel to learn how to properly host a server for better performance and more flexibility. In modpacks that aren't owned by us, you can use mods such as e4mc or WorldHost to host a server completely for free without Essential's many issues and crashes and the microtransactions that they constantly bother users with. To learn more about alternatives to the Essential mod, check out this website.
this issue is fixed in v39. please update
please read the changelog. you've been able to press middle click to sort inventories since v37
please read the questbook ingame
Please read the full contents of the #get-support channel for us to provide assistance.
Please read the full contents of the #get-support channel for us to provide assistance.
does anyone know how to fix like horrible fps when runnning shaders? with out shaders i get around 200-400 fps but with i only get 30 fps
Better MC 4 - v39 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
- 1.20.1 [FORGE]
- What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) Curseforge
- Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? No
- v39
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? No
- What steps cause the crash? attempting to launch it
latest.log | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log
Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
Updated mods:
[2;34mstoragenetwork[0m ([2;31m1.12.2[0m > [2;32m1.11.3[0m)
how do i beat the arachnarch posion spider boss if he always just shoots the poision at me and i cant dodge it
why cant u add essentials bruh 😔
cant launch the game for the first time after a fresh install
because theres already built in world sharing
!ws
Our modpacks don't support any mods that add singleplayer hosting / world sharing because we already provide free world sharing. The 'Essential' mod is therefore incompatible.
To share your world using our own world hosting, click the 'Open to Lan' or 'Share World' button in the game menu when in a singleplayer world, and share the world.
It will give you an address, like magma-cube.mc.lunapixel.gg, which your friends can use to connect directly to your world as if it were a server!
We still highly suggest not to play through LAN as LAN is untested and unreliable. Using it will cause longterm damage to your world.
There is no reason to use LAN, as we support both paid and free methods of hosting a server the normal way.
I don't understand, do I have to create a solo world and hit "open to LAN"? But that will let me play with friends from another country?
how do i get a mending book?
It's a treasure enchantment; you'll have to find it in a chest.
Basically. Share your link in chat with 'em. Hopefully it works out fine
!ea 'cause otherwise your game would explode
The Essential mod is completely incompatible with all of our modpacks, and there's no reason to use it. All of our modpacks already come with built-in, free world hosting, by clicking the "Share World' button in the Open to LAN menu. You can learn more by typing !ws in the #bots channel. You can also run type !server in the same channel to learn how to properly host a server for better performance and more flexibility. In modpacks that aren't owned by us, you can use mods such as e4mc or WorldHost to host a server completely for free without Essential's many issues and crashes and the microtransactions that they constantly bother users with. To learn more about alternatives to the Essential mod, check out this website.
Does anybody know how to transfer the xenomaps waypoints between versions, i had to do a fresh install of the modpack for my server, and it resets every players config and map.
!fps
i need help ASAP please
Is there an official server for the mod?
so i was fighting a boss and when i died it broke my grave, it said to use a command to get it back but i do not know how to do so
could someone please help me restore my grave that was broken
its asking for the proper permissions and i do not know them
Is there anywhere to put this in the middle of my screen instead overlapping my FPS display?
anyone else having the issue where no enemy mobs spawn even after updating to v39, and running the kill command for spawner mobs?
help me pls
Im having the same issue
If I install bmc 1 it starts normally
Please read the full contents of the #get-support channel for us to provide assistance.
Was the chest organizer mod got removed or something?
My grave broke and its saying i need permissions to bring it back, how do i to that, please
Please follow the performance guide to improve your game performance, as this is likely to resolve your issue.
says with a command i can bring it back...
!wsfull
World Sharing servers are currently at capacity
If you're receiving the error "Connection refused: no further information" when trying to join a friend through "Start Co-op" or "Host World", it's likely that Luna's servers (used for world sharing) are currently full. We don't have a way to notify you when slots on our servers free up, but you are welcome to try again later.
We understand and recognise that this may be inconvenient, so we recommend in this case to host or rent your own server. For more information on hosting options, type !server.
Was the chest organizer mod removed from BMC4 v39?
i cant grab any of the items and put them into my inventory
update to v39
what modpack?
can i get rid of a corpse on the ground if i cant pick up my other deaths stuff?
update to v39 and list what you added
update to v39
bmc4
please read the changelog
or the questbook
the modpack has middle click sort
Please follow the performance guide to improve your game performance, as this is likely to resolve your issue.
!ea
The Essential mod is completely incompatible with all of our modpacks, and there's no reason to use it. All of our modpacks already come with built-in, free world hosting, by clicking the "Share World' button in the Open to LAN menu. You can learn more by typing !ws in the #bots channel. You can also run type !server in the same channel to learn how to properly host a server for better performance and more flexibility. In modpacks that aren't owned by us, you can use mods such as e4mc or WorldHost to host a server completely for free without Essential's many issues and crashes and the microtransactions that they constantly bother users with. To learn more about alternatives to the Essential mod, check out this website.
!alternates
If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.
To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM
To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.
yes it will
Please read the full contents of the #get-support channel for us to provide assistance.
!alternates read the bottom of this guide
If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.
To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM
To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.
/yigd restore
jade mod config
it doesnt work, it said i needed a permisson in order to get it back
yes you need cheats on to run commands
you'll need to explore and go into new chunks or just give it a bit for the mobs to despawn
how would i turn those on?
Please read the full contents of the #get-support channel for us to provide assistance.
Please read the full contents of the #get-support channel for us to provide assistance.
press escape -> share world -> allow cheats
please read the changelog
or the questbook
And how do I move it to the middle?
press escape -> mods -> search jade
the screen is self explanatory
THANK YOU SO MUCH, U JUST SAVED ALL MY GOODIES!!!
I didn't understand how the folder thing works
what do you not understand
But was the chest organizer mod name called?
why
theres no point
you can just press middle click to sort
It's been changed to that?
Oh, it has.
yes thats what the changelog and the questbook say
find the file you are asking for
okay but why are you unable to find it
ill try that, thanks
can someone help, I think I had asked this already but I don't know how to set up controller with the mod
Or at all
upload the last file here, that says "latest"
I update and it keeps giving the same error
did anyone else crash when they alt tabbed
i think its my gpu issues my screen has been weird everytime i do alt tab
it's weird because amd does get involved hmm
add the controllable mod
you need to send the latest.log file
Please read the full contents of the #get-support channel for us to provide assistance.
send where
in here
drag the latest log file into your discord window with this chat open
Uploaded latest.log from @hearty kelp to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/i45ynAi
I tried it won't work
Maybe I have the wrong mod idk
what i do now @viral garden
server or player side
player
!updatemodpack
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Thanks
how do i make my game run bnetter it says im running good fps but doesnt looks msopoth at all
smooth*
how do update log
do you have an hs_err_pid file in your main modpack directory
send a screenshot of what you downloaded
Please follow the performance guide to improve your game performance, as this is likely to resolve your issue.
send any of them
Uploaded hs_err_pid6896.log from @hearty kelp to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/GsHDOF4
:warning: This is a hs_err_pid file.
These files may contain personal information such as your session token.
Mclogs automatically censors these files, so you should delete your original message now.
!drivers
You (likely) need to update your graphics drivers in order to resolve the crash. Here's how to go about doing that!
1. Identify your graphics card
if you already know skip to the next step
- Open task manager
- Navigate to the "Performance" tab (on Windows 11 this is the button that looks like a heart pulse)
- Press the GPU 0 graph and read your GPU from the top right
Note:
In some cases you may see a GPU 0 and GPU 1. This means your CPU has its own GPU, as well as a dedicated one. You probably want GPU 1 (which is usually the better one), but you can ask staff to clarify if necessary.
2. Download your drivers from the manufacturers site
Depending on what you read before, you likely need drivers from either AMD, Intel, or NVIDIA
AMD: https://www.amd.com/en/support
Intel: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download-center/home.html
NVIDIA: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
Note:
- For NVIDIA you want to select "Game Ready Driver (GRD)" (this is the default option) for the best performance. Once installing you'd probably prefer downloading GeForce Experience, which will notify you when there's an available drivers update.
- For Intel, you probably want to press "Get Started" under the "Automatically update your drivers and software", which will simplify the process and update everything automatically
- For AMD you probably want to just press "Download Windows Drivers", which will download something called AMD Adrenaline, which will update your drivers automatically.
3. Run the installation, restart your computer, and try playing MC again
- At this point, hopefully your Minecraft is running. If it still does not work, please post any new logs and staff will help assist you with finding the right solution.
what do i do with this
Hey, quick question. What does Glitchcore do for the modpack? just curious..
just wanted to come up here and thank the mods for fixing the issues with v38 mobs not spawning!! 😭 😭
Hey, what xp farm do ya'll make in better minecraft?
My mob farms arent working now rip
its a library mod
update to v39
yeah i js did
why do you ask
I updated the modpack version through bisecthosting panel and it said I was missing Glitchcore..
My friends and I love the modpack, but we really dislike serenseasons so we deleted that mod and its been running great until we updated to v38. seems updating the modpack is causing things to break...
I made elder xp farm, it was working great honestly.
!updateserver
00:00 Update Server Locally
01:19 Update on Server Host/Bisect Hosting Premium
01:39 Update on Server Host/Bisect Hosting Premium
Discord ➔ https://discord.gg/8ZmhaPPbjE
Twitter ➔ https://twitter.com/SharkieTV
Use CODE: LunaPixel for 25% off ➔ https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel
can you play multiplayer with better mc
anyone to get free multiplayer for better mc?
!server
Free Method
To host a server on your own computer, read the selfhosting guide.
This guide goes over how to install, create, and launch a free Minecraft server on all operating systems (MacOS, Linux and Windows). The guide also guides you through installing Java and optimizing your server for better performance.
If you are installing one of our older modpacks, ignore the "README" file that is included in the serverpack files, as they have outdated information.
Paid Method
We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.
Go here and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.
Go to #server-hosting for more Info!
The following advice works for both the Free and Paid methods:
Transferring Your World
If you're playing Singleplayer and want to transfer your world to your server, simply go to your modpack files and navigate to the saves folder. Inside of this folder, you will see your world saves. Rename your desired world save to world. You can then transfer this folder to your server files. If your world was hosted via world sharing, this process has to be done by the person who would click "Share World".
Fixing Lag
To resolve lag issues, simply run the !tps command in #bots and follow the directions provided.
!server
Free Method
To host a server on your own computer, read the selfhosting guide.
This guide goes over how to install, create, and launch a free Minecraft server on all operating systems (MacOS, Linux and Windows). The guide also guides you through installing Java and optimizing your server for better performance.
If you are installing one of our older modpacks, ignore the "README" file that is included in the serverpack files, as they have outdated information.
Paid Method
We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.
Go here and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.
Go to #server-hosting for more Info!
The following advice works for both the Free and Paid methods:
Transferring Your World
If you're playing Singleplayer and want to transfer your world to your server, simply go to your modpack files and navigate to the saves folder. Inside of this folder, you will see your world saves. Rename your desired world save to world. You can then transfer this folder to your server files. If your world was hosted via world sharing, this process has to be done by the person who would click "Share World".
Fixing Lag
To resolve lag issues, simply run the !tps command in #bots and follow the directions provided.
why is it when i download better mc it keeps turning into a zip file? ive done everything i just dunno what to do
you can you know, unzip it
you need a launcher to install modpacks
!alternates
If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.
To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM
To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.
yo I just wanted to say thank you guys for fixing the mob spawning issue! I wasn't getting any mobs when I first updated, but I went towards my spawn chunks and ran the kill @e command and now they're spawning like normal
i just said ive done everything but i also did that and it didnt show anything that you need to use to run it inside
i have forge 1.20.1 and java if thats the launcher ur talking abt
Start.bat or start.ps1
?
how do i run that
Double click it. It’ll open it and you have to allow Eula
please
read the guide
!alternates
If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.
To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM
To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.
you did not install the modpack correctly
please follow the installation guide
everything was fine, I clicked some shortcut and I have it in my sights
why do i need to use atlauncher?
its my first time in better mc and i dont know what is this i clicked something and have this
i am sure i instal good
It’s better at running the game. But if you have curseforge launcher, you can install the game under that.
@fiery dove maybe u can halp?
sorry why do i need a launcher in general?
everywhere i look it says to just download java and forge get the file and put it in a mod file?
to play and install modpacks
thats not correct at all lol
I could help, but be aware that the launcher you’re using is an issue
you need a modded launcher to play & install modpacks
you did not
whys that
it's simply not possible for that to happen on a correct installation
???
the file you downloaded is a list of URLs and code that only a launcher can read
that directs the launcher on what files to install
i mean i have other mod packs downloaded without a launcher so idk why better mc is diffrent
its not different
you can install mods without a launcher, not modpacks
TLauncher is known spyware and is also unable to install mods or modpacks correctly. Because we offer no support for piracy due to Discord TOS, you will need to provide proof you own a legitimate copy of Minecraft or leave the server. For a safe, working way to install both mods and modpacks, read the #faq guide on installing modpacks.
Thats why.
but ive downloaded modpacks without a launcher not mods
What launcher were you using to play with mods?
For example, spigot?
I’ll explain
ive just been using forge with the minecraft launcher and its been working perfectly fine till better mc
is that what u mean?
Yes. You need to run a mod loader
you did not install them correctly lol
Forge is a loader
Curseforge - Refers to both the Curseforge website and Curseforge Launcher. The Curseforge Launcher is a modded launcher used to play & install modpacks. ATLauncher is a better alternative. All modded launchers can be used to install & play both Fabric and Forge modpacks.
Modpack - A collection of mods. "Better MC 1.19.2 Forge", for example, is a modpack.
Modpack Version - The version of the modpack you are playing. v5, v6, v7, etc.
Minecraft Version - The version of Minecraft which the modpack you are playing runs on. 1.16.5, 1.18.2, 1.19.2, etc.
Mod - A .jar file which modifies the game in some way. "BetterEnd", for example, is a mod.
Forge - A mod loader which allows you to use Forge mods.
Fabric - A mod loader which allows you to use Fabric mods.
my point stands dude lol
ohh okay
its simply not possible to install a pack properly without a launcher
you would be missing tons of important files
the pack will run but not as the modpack creator intended
the pack would not be balanced, customized, etc
theres no reason to argue lol theres not some secret method
Oh my fault.
ATL is extremely lightweight, takes like 30 seconds to download
idk what the big deal is lol
but why can i download other modpacks fine but not better mc? im doing it the same way
you cant download other modpacks lol
they would break completely
???
and you'd be missing a ton of files
ive been using other modpacks perfectly fine
you can attempt to download them but its not going to work properly
no you havent 😭
just because the game launches doesnt mean its working as intended
BMC does nothing different than any other modpack
unless you've been downloading from sketchy malware sites or smthn
lol I think they’re just using other mods and not bmc
im downloading from curseforge and modrinth
o alr
you just didnt install them correctly dude i dont know why you're arguing 😭
do you actually think you know better than the developer of the modpack here
no offense but lol
you need a modded launcher to properly install & play any modpack
You can’t use other mods with bmc. Since you have curseforge, you can run bmc by installing
prideful much but no i dont, i do know that im downloading other modpacks perfectly fine
i dont think they even have curseforge
you just arent though
mhm if you say so
its physically not possible to install all of the mods in a modpack without a modded launcher
Saw this
they mean the websites
name one modpack you've installed via your method
and ill look
ive been playing RL craft doing that
it just shows up on minecraft and lets me play it perfectly fine
okay, and you would agree this is the latest version and i'm on the correct install page, right?
think so
i click download and this is the contents of the .zip file i get
the exact same thing you get from BMC
notice how the mods folder only has 2 files
because this is not how you install a modpack
and it never has been
you NEED a modded launcher to install lol
Did you get the curseforge launcher?
hey, sorry to bother. Im not sure if this is the right channel to ask in as I have just joined but I was wondering if someone knows how to install shaders/mods? I am using curseforge to try and instal shaders rn, I will probably add mods later on but I have never added either before and am lost on how exactly I add them to my world
video settings -> shaderpacks
and you can install shaders by dragging a zip file there
dont even know what that is

make sure to download the shader file from curseforge or modrinth
please explain to me how you're getting a modpack from this
lol
for me it shows a jar file there which i drag from there to my mod file
thats literally just not true
show me where you are getting this magical jar file from please
I have downloaded the shaders and saved the file to my desktop. I am not sure how to get them into the world from there
from the extracted zip file
?
Are you able to show the content?
in the file
what folder are you seeing it in
okay but where
which folder in the zip file
has the jar file
?
where are you finding the file
i extract it then i click on the extracted file to find it
what do you click on
I dont see a shader packs section in video setttings
the extracted file
are you playing better mc
ok, i did the same thing here #better-mc-forge message
theres no jar file here
not sure what that is. Im just on normal minecraft in a single player world
this is the channel for the better mc modpack
idk why u dont see it but i see something similar to that on better mc
can you show me where it is on rlcraft then
how do i show you
how do i do that 😭
lol
do you not know how to take a screenshot
no
oh shit my bad. Could u direct me to the right channel to ask my question? and apoligies for being in this channel
tysm
okay and just to reiterate
you dont know how to take a screenshot but you think you are more knowledgeable on how modpacks work than the person who makes them fulltime
read this
then why wont you follow the directions i gave on how to properly install 😭
cause im just asking why i can download other modpacks fine and not better mc
you cant
thats my point
please do what i asked though
i want to see one of the jar files you were talking about
alright
sorry to bother u, one last question. Do I create a new post in those threads to ask my question?
lemme download it again lol
mhm
ty for all the help appreciate it
Is there a way to get middle click to sort inventories by name/a-z? Right now it looks like the items are sorted by mod, then some random order (not alphabetical)
check the client sort mod config
oooh thanks!
its not a random order btw
its a custom algorithm
it sorts based on a lot of factors
oh interesting
I changed it from that (creative) to alphabetical and it works perfectly, thanks again!
how do i send a screen shot
😂
😭
That means that you didn’t get the right file
this person is trolling lol
wdym
they made that jar file just now
thats why it has the black box around it
and why they cropped the screenshot to not show date modified date
lol
it has a black box cause im clicked on it?
do this
😂 I’m entertained to be honest
send a full screenshot
okay
same
its funny how much effort he put into this
dont google "how to change date modified on windows"
just take the screenshot bro
ill give you 30 seconds
before i just ban
😭
i tried & they didnt want to listen lol
would rather troll bc i tried helping them and it made them angry for some reason
bro really named the file rlcraft-xyz
crazy that a dev thinks like that
but alright
okay?
wheres that screenshot btw?
tryna take it
you learned how to take that cropped screenshot really quickly
oh i guess you forgot thats weird
its ok take your time bro
is there a way to get essential working on better mc?
its been 3 minutes already
!ea
The Essential mod is completely incompatible with all of our modpacks, and there's no reason to use it. All of our modpacks already come with built-in, free world hosting, by clicking the "Share World' button in the Open to LAN menu. You can learn more by typing !ws in the #bots channel. You can also run type !server in the same channel to learn how to properly host a server for better performance and more flexibility. In modpacks that aren't owned by us, you can use mods such as e4mc or WorldHost to host a server completely for free without Essential's many issues and crashes and the microtransactions that they constantly bother users with. To learn more about alternatives to the Essential mod, check out this website.
i applaud u everyday for dealing w this shit chloe
😭 💜
Thank you 
good entertainment sometimes though
ngl good luck with that but i cant take a screen shot without showing my name and cloud whatever
damn thats crazy
you wouldnt want to expose your cloud ofc
cant let someone else see your cloud
bro really renamed a file to rlcraft-xyz.jar
0kb file
@low oxide can you send the file here actually?
just drag it into the chat box
ill make a gif for how to do it
simple
do that with the rlcraft-xyz.jar file @low oxide
if you prove me wrong i will give you $100 rn deadass
frfr
cute cat running
they left
ikr
😂
didnt even wait for the ban gave up on the troll
he really pussied out
I was hoping they went along a bit more
was like damn bro cash in
All on red
like
Can You Give Me One Hundred Dollars Chorb Lunar Pixel
they gotta give chloe a raise rn 😭
😭 😭
how do i fix twilight forest progession bug
i beat yeti but wont give me progession
playing on hardcore cant use commands
what modpack?
bmc5
what modpack ver?
chloe out here in the illiteracy mines
who out here saying my government name?
also i might’ve bypassed it but why does it not allow me to sort my inventory anymore
middle click
try on v25
@viral garden ok thanks
- What Minecraft version are you using? (1.19.2, 1.20.1, ...)
- 1.20.1
-
What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
-CurseForge -
Have you changed the modpack in any way? (e.g. changing mod versions, adding/removing mods)
-No -
What version of the modpack are you using? (v11, v9, etc)
-V39 -
Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
-The game alwasy crashes when doing the inital load of the mods. The red screen with the anvil and hammer -
What steps cause the crash?
-Starting the game
Better MC 4 - v39 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
- 1.20.1 [FORGE]
- What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
- Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
- v39
- Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
- What steps cause the crash?
latest.log | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log
Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
Updated mods:
[2;34mstoragenetwork[0m ([2;31m1.12.2[0m > [2;32m1.11.3[0m)
please help gang 
!alternates
If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.
To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM
To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.
lmfao
I've downloaded the Better MC [Forge] 1.20.1 v39 server pack, made no changes but the server is failing to start. Did some trial and error and all server packs since v37 just wont start.
- What Minecraft version are you using?
1.20.1 - What launcher did you run Minecraft with?
Server Pack v39 from ATL Launcher and CurseForge - Have you changed the modpack in any way?
No - What version of the modpack are you using?
v39 - Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
Server always fails to launch - What steps cause the crash?
run start.bat
kiwi seems to be throwing some sort of error but no idea how to resolve that
Uploaded crash-2025-03-31_04.53.12-fml.txt from @white hedge to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/BXxCTe1
im pretty sure your firewall is preventing the kiwi mod's update checker from running
something on your network, as this doesnt happen to everyone
firewall/antivirus
Does anyone have a place to get good information on better mc
the ingame questbook
4000x4000 (2k in all directions from spawn)
whew
Ah ok, yeah i've been scanning the chat and couldnt see anyone else getting it so thought it was weird.
I dont use any antivirus, just default windows on this pc.
If you have any guidance where I could go to check or change that would be awesome otherwise ill try digging around?
you can try making a firewall exception
:O
i dmed the developer of Kiwi though, a fix will be out soon hopefully
What about where to find certain blocks or items for a recipe
Like the giant pickaxe
I've got 4k in all directions pregenerated- one of the pregens I found didn't absolutely dunk on my server lol
read the questbook ingame for how to use JEI
the giant pickaxe is via the twilight forest mod's progression
lmao
Doesn't help too much though, my friends like to just pick a direction and go (I think I've clocked them at 15k out before.)
Do I have to do anything special to install a world that used to be a multiplayer server, as a local single player world?
it should be as easy as dragging the world folder into the saves folder
Great, thanks. And it will have all the dimension files and stuff too?
yes
One more question. Now that it's a local single player world, will I need to unclaim any chunks that someone else claimed?
im actually not sure
it will prob be fine but you could make a backup before putting it inside the saves folder
in case something does go wronf
Thanks Mimi
Does a vanilla Iron farm work in better MC
Can I get some help so I updated BetterMC Forge both on curseforge and bisecthosting but when I open minecraft (through curseforge) and I go to my server it still says V36 either tho bisect says V39? Did I do something wrong or did I forget to do something when updating?
send latest.log from both clients and servers log folder
How do I get my latest.log?
is it me or are drsgon eggs so common
it should!!
!logs
To better assist with fixing your issue, we will need some logs:
-
Curseforge -> Right click the modpack instance -> Open Folder.
-
ATLauncher -> Click 'Open Folder' on the modpack instance.
-
MultiMC -> Select your instace and click 'Instance Folder' on the right.
-
** For servers** -> Open the folder containing your server files.
To find the latest.log file, navigate to the 'logs' folder.
To find the hs_err_pid.log file, simply look for the file name after opening the instance folder.
To find a crash report, navigate to the 'crash-reports folder and find the most recent file after your crash occurred.
Once located, please upload the requested file here. If it fails, upload to https://mclo.gs/ and share the link here.
Can I change key sort inventory?
unlikely
!server
Free Method
To host a server on your own computer, read the selfhosting guide.
This guide goes over how to install, create, and launch a free Minecraft server on all operating systems (MacOS, Linux and Windows). The guide also guides you through installing Java and optimizing your server for better performance.
If you are installing one of our older modpacks, ignore the "README" file that is included in the serverpack files, as they have outdated information.
Paid Method
We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.
Go here and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.
Go to #server-hosting for more Info!
The following advice works for both the Free and Paid methods:
Transferring Your World
If you're playing Singleplayer and want to transfer your world to your server, simply go to your modpack files and navigate to the saves folder. Inside of this folder, you will see your world saves. Rename your desired world save to world. You can then transfer this folder to your server files. If your world was hosted via world sharing, this process has to be done by the person who would click "Share World".
Fixing Lag
To resolve lag issues, simply run the !tps command in #bots and follow the directions provided.
!alternates
If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.
To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM
To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.
check controls
Do you know any farms that may work?