#UW-Madison (2022-2023)
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He’s not - keeping staying delusional
One step above Rutgers is vile haha
terp head ahh
Umd a dope ass school I just dunno what ur tryna prove here lmao
Like $10k is not a lot when ur talking about CS jobs
in cs once u get here unless ur at mit or cmu or sumn like its all bout u
^^
Massive levels of cope
There’s a difference between 83K and 99K
median with the largest cs program in the country 💀
That’s 16k LOL
also yk that site only tracks ppl that received federal aid right
Yes, I lowered the difference
not whole sample size
Median doesn’t matter anyways
The mean and upper hand matter
Median is a pointless metric
ye im sayin umd literally has the largest cs population so even then median income != how good a program is
Yeah exactly
also has to do with the fact that wisconsin is a much lower COL area, and 90% of instate madison grads end up staying in wisconsin
if you're intl/oos, I doubt it matters
purdue intl salary is also like 10k more than purdue in-state salary for cs
Source?
r u rly asking if wisconsin has the same col as the dmv
No, I’m asking about the 90% claim
Also dude im pretty sure you are looking at the computer engineering graduate salary 💀
LMFAO
No I’m not. It is CS. Not sure where you’re getting that from.
Where are you from btw
https://ecals.cals.wisc.edu/2019/01/21/uw-madison-working-for-wisconsin-uw-graduates-stay-in-wisconsin/
here's a page that touts 80%. lemme find another page with more comprehensive data
Does this specially talk about CALS graduates?
idts. also says "50% of all uw-madison alumni call wisconsin home" which is about in line with their in-state numbers
Fwiw, median salaries do matter because they provide objective data that reflects the job market’s assessment of the opportunities, and demands of different careers. There’s no productive meaning in assessing outliers in your salary assessment
So I don’t know what statistic you are looking at bro
You’re talking out of your ass dude, you know it
https://federalrelations.wisc.edu/announcements/salary-outcomes-2020/
this is institution-wide data btw
Vs
Find the college that’s the best fit for you! The U.S. Department of Education’s College Scorecard has the most reliable data on college costs,graduation, and post-college earnings.
Problems with ur argument
- site limits it to ppl who receive fed aid
- UMD is much larger
- COL is lower in wisc
- UMD isn’t so special that you’ll get hired for going there u still hv lots of individual work to be done
- in every metric such as cs research, placements etc they are comparable and overall uw mad is better
So fuck up bout umid no one cares
COL?
@elfin star what’s better brown or gt for cs?
Cost of living
@elfin star that site isn’t accurate
In terms of an engineering program, GT wins. But Brown graduates earn more. It comes down to what schools vibe you fuck with
65k is the median salary for the ENTIRE UNIVERSITY lmfao
Yes, there are filters there, in case you didn’t notice, genius
The fact that the median salary across all majors is only 10k ish off proves our point
Yeah that site doesn’t have accurate data
Yes, I did say Brown graduates earn more
Also brown starting salary isn’t 200k
Not at all, no. Go to the Big4 if you get into them.
This website clearly isn’t too accurate
The number means nothing 🤷🏾♂️
Also there are only 185 data points
“Numbers don’t matter because they don’t fit the narrative I’ve set my mind upon”
Wisco doesn’t even publish that kinda stats for specific LSA majors I don’t think
I mean you’ve disregarded every other point? 😂
The number while being informative is no indication of what ur getting from a school
For cs
It’s common sense
Umd is a good school whatever bro said earlier shldnt even bother u that much lmao
But saying uw is shit cuz u got 10k on a site that can only use data from ppl who recieved aid is insane to me
Literally
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Yes, that data could still be representative. Not a flaw.
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Yes, that does not matter. You’re regardless going to study in one college anyway.
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Not by a huge margin. College Park is cheap.
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Same with UW. What matters is the opportunities you get for free.
And if u can’t understand that cs is more bout wut u out in than ur school name I expect u to transfer before graduation 🤷🏾♂️
Don’t come in here saying cope when umd is also easier to get into as well
Like cmon 😭
Never said that
Show where I said UW was bad
In this market no opportunity is free
Cba I’m off to bed lmao
Unless you tryna work for the army
You cannot
Cs is hella competitive
I never said UW was bad
It was my top choice before I decided on UMD
- college park might be cheap but what umd graduates are working in college park lol
The dmv is expensive
talking about DC's high COL
Ye most end up in dc, maybe nova
Yeah, this is true. But many move to either NY/west cost too. I think I’m gonna go down that route, I don’t know
My point to claim was that both these schools are equal, and honestly, you should choose depending on the vibe you fuck with. None of them “clear” each other — I was being distasteful when I said that
That is what you’re on
Tbh Median is not a pointless metric and honestly the best metric to use here, he’s just making dumb arguments with said median
Bro, this violates the argument you’ve made this entire time lmao. Brown has higher average salaries, but probably lower for CS due to the fact that its CS program is far worse
This is most definitely true
That data is in fact, not representative. Non-response bias, specific polling and a small sample size make that like a 20% degree of confidence
Small sample size? What the fuck are you on? https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/assets/InstitutionDataDocumentation.pdf
It does not. There’s little difference in the engineering programs Madison and UMD offer. That is not the case for those schools that were mentioned above. Also, I think you do not have the ability to read — evidently so, Brown has a higher median salary for CS than GT
Look, this is a massive cope, but you do you. There’s definitive documents of where the data comes from, so I’m not sure how and what grounds you’re dismissing it on.
It has all the schools in its dataset that report to the federal government. So, no, the data is 100% representative.
Bla Bla Bla Bla
Mediocre pay for mediocre employees. The median salary ensures everyone can earn an uninspiring, totally average paycheck. Why reward high achievers or pay to retain top talent? That only encourages unrealistic expectations. The median salary keeps things predictable, boring, and in line with the minimal effort most people put in. I agree, what a useless metric.
On a concluding note, median salaries DO provide a useful statistical summary of the central tendency in pay for a given role, location, or degree. They are not skewed upwards or downwards by a few outliers and represent the experience of the “typical” or middle-earning employee.
Fwiw, it essentially reflects the reality of most workers’ paychecks. For most roles, the median pay is quite possibly a more, and possibly most, representative figure than the mean or average. Outliers aren’t something you can rely on.
Unless there are confounding factors involved that affect this data in shape or form, I don’t think you’re making the argument you think you are.
I will repeat what you asked me. Do you know how to read?
Yeah and is that data entirely true? Absolutely not, since it shows a median above 180 grand. A median income above 100k is nigh impossible unless we’re tracking 40 years out
Gives up when their data is bad lmaooo
Critical thinking isn’t for everyone 🤷🏾♂️
Hopefully umd has a liberal arts requirement 🤣
If you guys want to think you “won” some argument by claiming something without any cause or evidence, go for it. Stay delusional.
Your claim that a $184K median CS salary is "nigh possible" reeks of ignorance and narrow-mindedness - utterly unfounded doubts born of laziness and lacking any grounding in economic reality. Within the tech field, $184K medians are snarkily implausible only to those content remaining obliviously asleep at the wheel.
Oh, but, by all means, you do you. I mean, who needs to understand the difference between starting and median salaries anyway? It's not like that information could be useful in making informed career decisions or negotiating a fair salary. Keep doing what you're doing, champ. Keep dismissing data.
… its ten years after enrollment
No. See the data for yourself. I’m not sure why you’re making claims right out of your ass.
No one gets 100k raise from their starting their pay
I looked at the data
Its 10 years after their enrollment
Maybe if you knew how to read your own sources, you’d know that
Did I ever claim those salaries were starting salaries?
There’s quite literally a taunt at you right here. You brought the strawman of “starting salaries” in.
No where did I claim these were starting salaries. I only used the term median.
Bro, you brought up starting salaries. In the time frame shown in the data you’re claiming, its ten years after enrollment at the university. Thats at most 6 years after your oh so precious starting salaries. My point, if you could actually read it for once, is that the MEDIAN salary shown is unrealistic for that working timeframe, so therefore I don’t believe the arguments you are making. However, since you refuse to even listen to this point, it leads me to believe that you know this and are just trying to incite chaos
Yo this funny af. Keep fighting
Lolol, I am just too bored. Senioritis do be kicking in
You brought up staring salaries
Where? Quote me.
it’s ten years after enrollment
Does not weaken my argument a single bit. You’re the one who misread all my messages and tried to argue with an imaginative scenario. Not my fault at all.
Median salary shown is unrealistic
Sure, whatever floats your boat.
Dept of Ed numbers are 💩 and you know that
UMD is a fine school, don’t take it personally. You’re gonna do great there. Wisco is also a fine school and people who go there do well too. Take it easy
it is im jus sayin in cs if u think the minimal diff between schools at the t20 matters enough for job prospects then no one canhelp u fr
atp its more about u and bro seems too not understand that idk
umd is better
cause twizzy terp is attending
no question
UW madison is mid af cause they yield protected me
while UMD has understood the sexiness and raw potential of luh twizzy
Ye
Yep
tough luck
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I think you’re replying to the wrong person? I certainly agree w you. The difference among “good state schools” is really minimal unless it’s UVA/Mich/Berkeley/UCLA/UNC and even then only for specific majors
Best way to appeal UW Madison's financial aid offer for something better as a shot in the dark?
(I'm out of state)
i think u can get up to like 6k in loans but otherwise not rly (not a financial advisor)
UW barely gives fin aid for in state. I wouldn't count on it
yea that's why I said shot in the dark lol
only way is merit which ion think u can bargain for
wuts ur instate coa
You can appeal for merit?
I meant i don’t think u can appeal for
imo comes down to personal preference
bouth good
Sticker price
I got loans but that's it
28k?
Yea
Tuition's going up with my class. They've been able to keep it constant for years now
ye went up 4% (im in ur class lmao)
I totally knew that 💀
What're you studying?
CS hbu
Do I need to register for the placement tests after enrollment? Or before?
after
I was considering UMD because one of my (former) friend studies there. Until I heard that he did a lot of scummy stuff lol
Econ and maybe intl business as i have most of my degree credits already
anybody know of any really unique stuff offered by uw madison (especially within the college of letters and science) that most other colleges don't have? could be specific research opportunities, professors working on groundbreaking projects, organizations, courses, etc.
like in terms of what 😭
Purdue I think is higher ranked right
And cheaper
Wisco is more fun
More school spirit
Madison is awesome
Wel what matters to u
- UW is more fun, better campus iirc and is really good for cs around same level as Purdue however it’s likely more expensive oos unless u got scholarships or cost don’t matter
- idk much bout Purdue heard it’s depressing idk and there was the overenrollment otherwise Purdue is an engineering giant so there’s that
Personally I think I’m terms of cs they’re bout equal more bout the work u put in urself
Yeah
Tldr can’t go wrong with either
man 😭
thank you
do companies see madison the same as purdue
like i konw purdue is renowned and well known
Purdue academic rigor is fking insane
tbf isnt it rigorous no matter where u go for engineering/cs
Naw Purdue diff
oh word
Only thing about UWM is that the letter and science requirements
Idk much about UWM but that’s the only thing that popped out for me
do credits transfer p easily
Ima leave that for someone else to answer cause idk much abt the school
Ap or De
If UW-Madison has equivalents, I get 52 credits for my CC classes 😎
Yes I’m this job market it’ll be hard almost everywhere except maybe t3 or so but both will be enough to get u looked at after that it’s all u (don’t expect school name to carry u if u hvnt put in enough)
The page on transfers says they will analyze course by course and count equivalence, and award credit based on that. It does not impact your GPA at Wisconsin
Also I love the Courtney pfp
I speak for in state: yes, all of mine are counting towards what i need them to count for
They're from a four year vs cc though
Transferology is what they told me to use to get an idea. If your course pops up as like an Xx-17 or something like that, they'll run through the validation process. Just means no one's transferred it before
Yes. Anything after a t5 is seen the same (except few biases)
Does UWM have good internship chance or job opportunities?
Yeah definitely
i cant decide between madison and uiuc. i wanna go to uiuc bc instate tuition much cheaper tha madison but i visited madison and i like but that price is too much for me as an oos student 😢
What’s ur major
What’s your opinion on each?
im art major in graphic design
UWM: direct entry, cheapest, good campus and student life, dk about the internship opportunities
UDub: most expensive, not direct entry, but good location(surrounded by microsoft etc), somewhat prestige
A&M: ranked high in engineering, not the best location but I can transfer to UT Austin, really need to work hard first year to avoid unwanted major, and i heard that its tradition is somewhat like a cult, very hot
What major business? Or engineering
Hmm
Both are prolly the same
Illinois is going to be super fun
Lowkey go there to save the money
It’s still big 10
But Madison is pretty and if you think your happiness is worth money you’ll make back later in life then go for it
engineering
I would say UWM based on what you say
Uwm is UW Milwaukee, not Madison
But I am a bit worried about internship in wisconsin since it is not in the industrial area
They're rather good at placement, as they're close to Milwaukee, Twin Cities, and Chicago and work regularly with employers from those areas to offer students internships and jobs after grad
I think internships are possible anywhere, you just need to put in more effort. I’m sure you could find good internships at any of these schools
lol thanks u. i noticed madison and uiuc have big campuses but uiuc feels more comfortable to me madison feels more city like
Yeah honestly go with your gut at that point
Everyone on here always says to go for the cheaper option but imo I think happiness is the most important
If you feel that the burden isn’t too terrible and you’ll be happier go for it
Anyone know when wl decisions come out
RD came out end of March
After May probably
Weather is cold for most of the year, warm for start of fall, end of spring
Location, its right in the middle of Madison, connected to the captial building
It has a lot of urban parts, but the lakeside dorms are more suburban
I can’t say much about the inside of dorms or food
Ic Ic
Wisconsin sucks
Liz Waters was on top of it, so maybe avoid that dorm if you don’t want that commute
Oh this dude is a troll account
Is he talking abt the state?
Nah the school
I mean both ig
You just don’t like it?
Avg A2C incel 😂
Ok and ur point is 💀
🧀
It’s too farmy bruv
Top cs major top school so mind ur business if u don’t like it
🤓
Cs schools don’t matter unless it’s the ivys mit Stanford cmu and uiuc
I’m tryn see wut ur point is 💀
It’s in the middle of nowhere
Ur mixing it up with Wyoming prolly
Cuz whatever farm looks like this
Looks terrible
👍
Enjoy a KKK infested ass school
Holy shit bro full sent it
I will
I got rejected 😂😂
I know 😂
Got into the real UW cs smd
Have fun I get to pay less than my instate cuz of schols

I’m paying 15k a year lil bro
I’m paying 12 kid
Enjoy Wisconsin
I will
😂
Hv fun in the worst part of the west coast 💀
Id rather be in Seattle than a farm 😂💀
Aii jus say hi to jerry tre addict for me 👍
Sure will
Lmaoooooo
Ok bro
Middle of city
Also nowhere
Imagine telling someone your from Wisconsin 💀💀💀
What are these conversations lmao
great question
copium
🤓
fr
I did it yesterday lol
Can anyone see sessions for soar?
dont forget to register for soar yall
Ye
Anyone here get the earliest time?
i got 6/8
🧐
Same
ml group i joined at wisc
oh shi meet up?
👀👀
im down
It wasn't showing up right away which scared me
did u get it ?
Eventually yea
wut date
Party time
👀
June 14/15
Yo anyone know what the Math placement test is like?
i took it
pretty much sat math
wasnt too hard
Any like time issues with it?
i had 90 finished in 45
sorry for late response
all good
Does it have any calc at all? Stats?
ummmm
ion remember any stat
nothing that was like ap stat lvl at least
Aight
Do I remember pre calc two years and some after taking it is the question now
wen u take sat
4 years for me 😎
I'ma fucking die
Never took it
oh 😭 act?
Yep
similar ig
Math's kinda diff though, at least with set up
When you haven't done the kind of math on it in years and can't remember
The dumbest thing I did for it was take the derivative to find the min or max when i could have legit plugged into my calc and graphed it out
lmfao
i mean ye
but i think the concepts on it were pretty foundational
i prollly made dumb mistakes but like guy in the ss said if u alr havve credit (which tbh its a2c) the placement test matters 0
and u can retake it IF u want
for cs theres not either afaik
it's madison time
In the financial aid tab on the student center part of my.wisc.edu
do u mean like post aid and scholarships
well everything in same place
go to student center then fin aid
u african?
i lit have nothing on that page
nah
lemme see
i mean i came from a africa based international school so
How do u know if your housing preferences are submitted?
Should say Housing Contract Submitted or smth like that
^^
i have nothing like that
mine says "Room Assignment Information Not Available
Room assignment information will be available later this summer. Be sure to regularly check your wisc.edu email account since all University related correspondence will be sent there.'
have you got it?
What did yall use to get the verified role in this server?
Like what document/form/etc?
#🤖-bot-commands
then !verify
if u want best chance go with any ig but i hv 2 roomates so triple
idrk
if u join the wisc hub u shld be able to see a co27 server
u can ask there
Note: This feature is slowly rolling out so not everyone has access yet! Stay tuned for more details in the future!
WHAT ARE DISCORD STUDENT HUBS?
A Discord Student Hub is a place for students to ...
You have to sign up in there
But like what did you screenshot for proof?
With how housing has been the past few years, I've been hearing from friends who attend that if you get a double, it's a shock.
Older dorms are more likely to be doubles due to spacing while newers are more likely to be triples
If we signed up for a later soar date, do they save spots in classes?
I'm in late July unfortunately
i jus went with a triple with a friend (ish) and someone he knew for this reason
they do but its not nearly as much as early soars
like lets say there r 100 spots
50 may be filled early
and they may save 10 for every subsequent one
something like that obv more complex
Thank you 😭
Ima try to get an earlier one if I can
I legit signed up the day that it opened and all the good spots were filled
I guess my spot isn't too bad, there are aboit 10+ sessions after mine
ye
i waited on that shi like an album dorp got the second session
Same
I was on the site with three tabs ready to go if one decided not to work. Then i got scared at the testing thing bc i thought you needed it done to sign up, only to realize you just needed to check the box lol
I'm trying to switch my advising group from L&S to the intercollege one and the dates legit keep disappearing
So stressful 🫣
I think some colleges have earlier SOAR dates (I’m engineering so mine may be earlier than L&S)
Oh word when’s urs I’m ther 6/7
We same date I mean June 7 btw 😂
I mean I think similar dates but they fill up based on school I feel
Cuz there r only so many advisors for one college
Ye
I'm June 14/15 rn
I know people in Engineering who are mid August. I think they just separate dates by college to keep it more organized
has anyone gotten their waitlist decision
ive seen a couple
but its rolling
ffs
W
u gon come?
Yeppp
Does everyone get to their major despite getting admitted to letters and sciences
And does it depend on ur performance in placement exams
And can someone help me what to do next
After accepting my offer
Plz🙏🙏
Some majors have course abs grade requirements
Unless direct
No those just decide ur math and English level of u have no credit ig it lets u declare faster cuz no or less pre req
Go to student to do list has everything
I did not get it
Computer science
Oh
Welp cs u can’t get in direct
U have to complete some math and intro to cs req but it’s not hard
Then what is to be done
So that I have to do in uni
Or beforehand if so how
We offer a state-of-the-art undergraduate curriculum that is continually updated by the faculty research experience. Wisconsin CS offers project-oriented courses in artificial intelligence, computational biology, computer architecture, computer graphics, computer networks, computer security, computer systems, databases, human-computer interactio...
So are placement exams easy
Scroll down to cs major declaration requirements
Depends on the level ur at but was easy for me
Well I am good i calculus Indian board tho
It says to take some classes so these are to be taken once we start uni right
Yes
Unless u have equivalent credit that lets u skip it or u do well on placements
Do we get prep material for placement exams or after registering that’s it
U can also test out of specific courses
Didn’t give AP’s
Um I think there’s a practice exam somewhere but they don’t rly send u much
It’s like sat level math
So up to trigonometry
Aah easy then
Or pre calc
U can still ask ur advisor
And if they don’t give it u can place out of specific courses
W an exam
Also if I do get good placements marks I skip classes and what do they teach next
U go on ao the next course in that sequence
So people with credits are like automatically ahead of me in degre
Or u fulfill the requirement
Eh somewhat they’re just either not rly taking a certain course or might grad faster
But there’s no being ahead
Thanks a lot mate sorry for picking ur brain so much really appreciate it
Np
If u want to ask current students questions I’d suggest joining student hub
Again sorry but how do we join
Have u set up ur wisc email yet?
If not do that
Hm
Try it on ur phone
Like logging into outlook
Once u get it set up jus look for Wisconsin in that
Man ios be taking a piss on me
Lmao
Um I can help u Monday studying for last exam 
Nah AP classes
No worries
Aaaaah best of luck bro
Okokok u are a real one G
I dmd u sumn
What's up?
I need a roommate cuz I am being offered off campus only
Any Indians going off campus
?
There's a roommate page on IG and FB you can post on
Link?
y off campus only?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/uwmadison2027/?ref=share&mibextid=NSMWBT
And the account on IG is uwmadison27
Oh god
Not that
Do not join that
That is not official
That is run by people with ulterior motives
They want to promote their page
The fact that they put “official” in title even if they clarified in bio is pathetic
They run dozens of those btw
In fact I wonder if you could report it to the school
Like I told Davis abt them once and they said this
no acc you should post on that, it has the most amount of people on it
Madison does not have a school run roommate page. The group running it found a niche in the market and they filled it. I also didn't pay anything and was still allowed on the Facebook page
If you need a roommate, that's where everyone is looking for a roommate. You don't exactly have much choice
it says they want you to subscribe lmao
and ik people here who did pay
albeit not for madison but another group they run
They didn't exactly check if i did
still a scummy practice to put it on your site to begin with
and some schools do in fact run their own pages
And most of my classmates who posted on it didn't either
Madison, however, does not, which leaves the student with no choice in the matter
start your own!
encourage them to make an official one!
in all honesty tho
its your choice
support a shit company
but i am going to tell people not to
It's everyone's individual choice, as it is with every other discretionary purchase
of course
and i am allowed to attempt to persuade them against it
if they choose not to listen then like you said it is their choice
You’ll b fine
Does anyone know what the acceptance rate was this year?
admitted off waitlist for biomedical engineering 💀
what does your letter of acceptance say? does it talk about the wisconsin idea?
we not rly allowed ot
but jus join the student hub
if ur committing
i can send u the cs ojne if u want
can you be admitted to CS or is waitlists only letters and sciences
u hv pre reqs before declaring cs so jus l&s
Please do
dm
Is there a 2027 discord?
Oh yeah I remember you had some sort of dorm ranking document right? Do you still have it?
I need to pick housing
ye i can dm it to u
Hey guys, is our Campus ID the same thing as Portal ID?
It should be the long string beginning with 9
Tyty
Yo does anyone have the discord link to the Wisconsin class of 2027 server or the cs one
i sent u the cs one
👍🏽