#UIUC!!! (2022-2023)

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knotty path
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and had to explain why

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etc

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but they are still going right now so

timid island
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I’m officially committed to uiuc!

tender matrix
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Congrats!

sage hornet
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How about a C

zinc sequoia
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Illini tower is the bad one

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Right?

tender matrix
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Yep

tired robin
tired robin
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rough dorm tier list off the top of my head:

  1. ISR, newer IKE/6-pack ones (these are all renovated/rebuilt)
  2. PAR (has single-use bathrooms)
  3. FAR (communal bathrooms)
  4. Lincoln/Allen, Busey/Evans (i believe these dont have AC)
  5. PCH lol
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im sure theres plenty of talk on reddit abt it

warm shard
tender matrix
warm shard
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im kinda confused bc when i visited they showed me snyder but is that in ike??

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cuz it seemed kinda old

tired robin
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yeah just that region is referred to Ike or six pack

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they're gradually replacing the dorms, snyder is one of the old ones left

compact marten
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is anyone here picking UIUC CS or CS+X above GT CS?

strong fox
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Also Snyder isn’t like

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Bad

tired robin
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yeah

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but is there ac

sage mulch
# compact marten is anyone here picking UIUC CS or CS+X above GT CS?

I picked GT CS over UIUC CS+Math last year. Ik a bunch of ppl who turned down UIUC CS/CS+X to come here. But there are prob ppl at UIUC CS who turned down GT CS as well. They are very similar academically for CS, just go with whichever one u like more or whatever is cheaper. Don't get caught up in what random ppl on discord are picking.

compact marten
dapper torrent
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imo GT is more industry focused while UIUC is more academia focused

compact marten
dapper torrent
# compact marten are you suggesting that UIUC is better for graduate studies (MS/PhD) while GT is...

not necessarily. I think UIUC is better if you want to go for research publication or PhD at a prestigious institution (I know there was a reddit post showing largest percent of PhD at stanford did undergrad at UIUC; also check csrankings.org which bases a lot on research output), while GT is better if you want a six figure SWE job out of undergrad (hearing that this happens often from GT students, plus Atlanta has a lot of opportunities)

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but then if you pick GT you still have great research resources, and likewise if you pick UIUC you can get just as good job offerings

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so student life > these considerations

dusky apex
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i got conditional transfer from gt

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and im in state and would get a scholarship that waives tuition from there

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but i kinda wanted to leave the south and also gt isnt super great for the linguistics half

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also like the vibe of uiuc better

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but its just so much more money

compact marten
dusky apex
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yes

compact marten
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uiuc is good at cs and engineering but it's ordinary at other majors/x

dusky apex
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yeah but gt doesnt have a linguistics major at all

compact marten
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yeah then go uiuc if you really wanna do linguistics

dusky apex
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and ive talked with the linguistics professors at georgia tech, they teach some classes but theres not a ton

compact marten
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but if you wanna do cs, then it's either grainger cs or gt cs

dusky apex
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theyre pushing for a linguistics major but i dont expect it to happen

compact marten
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hmm yeah if you're looking for cs applications to linguistics, uiuc cs+linguistics is better choice

dusky apex
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yeah it would be cs+linguistics, from what ive seen theres not a huge difference between a grainger cs degree and a cs+x degree practically

dusky apex
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but i would pay about 64k total for georgia tech

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and i would pay about 208k for uiuc

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so im deciding if the better fit is worth considerably more debt

compact marten
dusky apex
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doesnt have much difference in hiring prospects

compact marten
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do you want to work in linguistics or in tech firms in bay area?

dusky apex
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trying to avoid bay area

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but i would like a job that lets me travel so it would likely be programming for someone

compact marten
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but if you like/study linguistics, wouldn't you wanna do something related to linguistics?

dusky apex
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i would yes

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id like to do something with computational models of languages, kinda nlp adjacent

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something like machine translation

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and i would also like the opportunity to do linguistics research

compact marten
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then go with uiuc - they have cs+linguistics

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i'm trying to compare uiuc cs vs gt cs..

dusky apex
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you did say "uiuc cs or cs+x"

compact marten
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true

dusky apex
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but im functionally treating the cs part of the education as identical

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since theyre ranked similarly

compact marten
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it's not identical though

dusky apex
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i know

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but im treating the differences as less important

compact marten
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cs majors will take lot more cs electives than cs+x

dusky apex
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no im saying cs education between gt and uiuc

compact marten
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cs majors will take courses like operating systems which cs+x wont

dusky apex
compact marten
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cool

sage hornet
dusky apex
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yeah i was gonna say that

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the course requirements are the same, cs+x just adds more from what i can tell

sage hornet
compact marten
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the number of upper division CS electives you take in cs+x are much less than what you take in cs - this is because you are spending 50% of junior/senior years in x electives

dusky apex
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not necessarily it depends on what you do with free electives

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also like

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that means i get to skip classes i dont like

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so what's the downside

compact marten
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no downside if you really want to study cs+linguistics

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many people apply in cs+x because it's very hard to get in cs

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cs+x has 25-40% acceptance rate while cs has <10%

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there are many people who really want to study cs but they apply to cs+x only because it is much easier to get cs+x

dusky apex
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oh ive heard that

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no if uiuc didnt already have cs+ling i would have double majored cs and ling

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or tried to

compact marten
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yeah so you have a genuine interest in linguistics, then it makes sense

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but if someone who only wants to study cs, but took admission in cs+x because it's much easier to get in cs+x, they won't get same education as grainger cs

dusky apex
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true

surreal dome
tender matrix
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Uiuc CS is less theoretical than GT, more on applied

tender matrix
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You still take all the core CS classes and it's not like you are restricted in terms of choosing CS electives

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I know a lot of CS + x majors that finish up the "Grainger CS degree" by taking more CS electives

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The amount of CS you learn in CS + x is purely defined by the student who is in the program

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You could take +x classes, or you could take more CS classes

tender matrix
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For all purposes and intents, you can treat CS + x and CS amount of CS education as the same

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Because even if you do take +X classes, there are some that serve as CS electives as well

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CS + linguistics takes NLP classes and computational morphology and corpus programming as part of their + X

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That's required

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CS + stats takes a lot of machine learning and statistical modelling classes in R etc

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It can be quite intertwined so you are still learning a ton of CS even if you decide to completely not do any more CS electives

empty scroll
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you are paying like 140k for what is really a difference of like 10 classes if you are talking abt cs+x

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and then just cs there should be barely any difference

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gt weather will probably be a lot better and you are inside a city as well

dusky apex
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yeah ik but like

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im from atlanta

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and not impressed

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and have been wanting to leave for years now

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and i really am interested in the linguistics part which i dont really feel like gt offers

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but idk if thats worth 140k

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i am a city enjoyer but atlanta's public transport isnt that good and most areas arent super walkable so it doesnt really have the things i like about cities

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and champaign-urbana has a lot of the things i like about cities despite being smaller

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i agree that theres not much of a cs difference

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but im not treating cs+x as core cs i value the x a lot more than i think a lot of people who just apply to cs+x bc it's easier do

dusky apex
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also i want to do study abroad and searching gt study abroad for options open to undergrad cs majors does not yield much i would be interested in

compact marten
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oh i thought GT CS had quite good study abroad program with Oxford university

dusky apex
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thats not really the kind i would be interested in though, id like to go somewhere with a different culture and possibly language

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whereas uiuc has an approved exchanged program with bogazici university in turkey which seems awesome

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or at ntu in singapore

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both of which i actually considered applying to

compact marten
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ah ok

dusky apex
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actually hold on can cs+x majors participate in the study abroad programs for grainger students

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i think ntu is part of the engineering specific study abroad catalog

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ok cs+x students arent eligible for the scholarsips for ipeng but i still dont know if they can do it

dusky apex
compact marten
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yeah i noticed it's their campus in france, but i thought oxford study abroad would be very prestigious

dusky apex
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prestige does not matter for study abroad really

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you dont get a degree from them and nobody sees the individual classes

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id just want to be somewhere i enjoy

tender matrix
tender matrix
dusky apex
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oh thats sick

tired robin
dusky apex
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yeah

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which like good for me it makes my application look better (ig it worked)

tender matrix
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Linguistics here is pretty fun too ngl

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So I think you'll enjoy it

dusky apex
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yeah i think i would too

chilly tapir
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when applying is it better to do it through the common app or my illini

tidal parcel
chilly tapir
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is one easier than the other?

tidal parcel
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are you only applying to illinois?

chilly tapir
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no probably multiple

tender matrix
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common app then

merry brook
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Anyone know when do I need to pay after I signed the lease agreement and can I still refund my money if I changed my mind?

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I choose IT at last

tender matrix
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but you breaking a lease contract and thats not a really good thing

cursive knoll
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Guys help me chose between University of Toronto and UIUC for CE

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Cost is not an issue

fluid flame
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uiuc

strong fox
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UIUC

timid island
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You eye you see

cold peak
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better city, so depending on exactly what you are looking for you could have a lot more of an enjoyable experience

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although if you are ok with being out in the cornfields then uiuc is great

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the campus is really nice despite being in the middle of nowhere

empty scroll
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uiuc easy

strong fox
tender matrix
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I wouldn't say worse academics because they are probably harder than us, but the argument against U Toronto is that it's very hard to graduate in 4 years due to their rigorous curriculum

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U Toronto has always been easy to get in, hard to get out

cold peak
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Interesting, personally I would still probably go with Toronto, but it's all up to the person and what one is looking for out of a college experience, that's really why I brought it up, there is a lot more to college than academics, even if academics are a lot of it

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But also, I didn't even apply to Toronto cause I didn't apply anywhere outside of the US, so I can't say too much lol

merry brook
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Does anyone know how much is the wage for undergraduate RA in uiuc?

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Normally

strong fox
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But you get free housing and a meal plan

tender matrix
winged sand
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does anyone know what this means

Screenshot_2023-04-26_at_11.47.25_AM.jpg
tender matrix
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It means they are still processing your appeal

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Or if you submitted a term change request

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They are processing that

tender matrix
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Someone released the computer engineering and electrical engineering acceptance rates if you guys are curious

empty scroll
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nonresident decreases it by a lot lol

tender matrix
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yea it gets halved

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or something

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these are just overall

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so ima guess non-resident like 20%ish

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resident 40% ish

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for males

glad latch
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@tender matrix i am once again considering uiuc cuz berkeley is fucked with their new high demand majors. would u say prestige is a huge game changer in finding jobs for engineering?

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like i am considering ucsb vs uiuc rn

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and how are class sizes at uiuc? ucsb CoE is super small which i like.

tender matrix
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Sure it might get your foot in the door

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But still comes down to skill

tender matrix
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But we do have some nice engineering support

strong fox
tender matrix
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these are the official numbers from the FOIA

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I didnt make them up lol

strong fox
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Well I know that

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I just thought it would’ve been much harder to get in

tender matrix
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lol same for my major

strong fox
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Probably cause of low number of applications

tender matrix
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stat+cs is 25%

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its much higher than I thought

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but hey acceptance rate != quality of program

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the only thing that did match up was grainger cs

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with the 2% oos male intl acc rate 💀

strong fox
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That’s true

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And 2% is crazy

tender matrix
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tbh the cs+x programs truly are much easier to get in

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cs+ling was 60%

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cs+astro was 70 I think

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pretty sure cs+crop science is even higher

strong fox
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Illinois accepts a lot

tender matrix
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good way to get into a top cs program

warm shard
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for any cs students, how tough is the courseload? will i find myself having to dedicate a good chunk of time to succeeding or will i have time to have a social life and have a 50/50 balance?

strong fox
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But also a lot of people drop

tender matrix
strong fox
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Doesn’t ECE have like a 50% drop rate

tender matrix
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LOL that is true

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what do people in ECE transfer into ?

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IS?

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💀

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thats the CS way

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if you can't take CS, you transfer to IS

tender matrix
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for your first sem if you are taking the traditional recommended path

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you;ll have a lot of free time

strong fox
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I think

winged sand
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how is the engineering mechanics major here

strong fox
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Uh idk actually lmak

winged sand
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i just got in through an appeal

strong fox
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Probably mechE

tender matrix
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💀

winged sand
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💀

tender matrix
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I think engineering mechanics is more theoretical

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not as many CAD classes I assume

winged sand
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i heard transferring in grainger is not horrible?

warm shard
tender matrix
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some people can be very competitive

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others not so much

tender matrix
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if you are in grainger

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it shouldn't be too bad to get into MechE

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especially since you started out at engineering mech

winged sand
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what about aero

tender matrix
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not bad either

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just make sure you work hard

winged sand
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ight thats nice

tender matrix
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and keep those grades up

winged sand
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yeah for sure

tender matrix
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cause at the end of the day its the grades that matter

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for transfer

winged sand
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makes sense

tender matrix
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you need to keep a 3.5 gpa

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iirc

surreal dome
tender matrix
timid island
tender matrix
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Less spots

empty scroll
empty scroll
glad latch
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basically impossible

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stats and ds are hard

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berkeley added this new high demand policy this year so unlucky me

empty scroll
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oh makes sense

tender matrix
sage hornet
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I don’t really understand the new policy

glad latch
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There are a list of high demand majors

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And cs is one of them

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If I am declaring a high demand major I need a backup major that is not high demand

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And when declaring high demand I get one chance and they are using some vague holistic review to see if u can declare it

sage hornet
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Hmm ok

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What abt declaring cs as a double major

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Is the hard part getting into the three intro cs classes?

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Or is it doing well enough in them to be considered for a transfer

glad latch
glad latch
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one chance to declare cs major but its gonna be super super comp

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on that note as a cali rez (money not an issue), can u guys give me some insight on if u would pick ucsb or uiuc ee

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also uiuc scholarship + honors

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if ucsd admits me off wl, mostly a no brainer then

sage hornet
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For what major

glad latch
empty scroll
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wait was that common app

tender matrix
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Yea common app

sage hornet
glad latch
sage hornet
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that's true

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isn't uiuc better tho

glad latch
empty scroll
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ucsd also gives general admission 💀

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I would just pick uiuc compared to ucsb

compact marten
valid tendon
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can you call uiuc and ask them about acceptance rate to a certain major

surreal dome
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their admissions office is def very transparent compared to others, wouldn't be surprised

warm shard
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so once u pay ur acceptance fee, do u need to pay anything else to commit?

tender matrix
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nope just make sure you do everything on your check list

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sign up for class registration

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submit dorm forms

merry brook
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What is the plan for freshman students? I thought the first week starting from 8.21 is orientation week?

tender matrix
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you move in on the 16th

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or so

olive condor
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hi

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is there any class of 2027 uiuc discord server?

tender matrix
olive condor
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ty

olive condor
tender matrix
vague cape
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Top 3 dorms for cs student that are not too quiet and has decent social life and good food, close to main/engineering quad or a good bus system

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?

tender matrix
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Don't need to be close to engineering quad cause you won't have any classes there freshmen year

timid island
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Same question but for ece 💀

slim gorge
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anybody have advice for the meal plans? how do they work and which should I get

warm shard
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anyone else get the housing email?

slim gorge
warm shard
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anyone else get the housing email?

warm shard
chrome arch
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which email?

faint tinsel
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yeah.. i never got one either

tender matrix
warm shard
warm shard
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its cuz i didnt do it yet

tired robin
warm shard
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did anyone get a weird authetication error when trying to do housing?

slim gorge
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do you have advice for finding single dorms

tired robin
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gl

manic jetty
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when do wl decisions come out

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i dont think anyone's gotten it yet but could be wrong

timid island
velvet oasis
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thats crazy bruh 💀 mid june

slim gorge
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i dont know if i should find a roommate or take my chances and see if i can get a single

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i really would rather have a roommate i know than a random person

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but idk if thats how it actually works so if anybody has advice thatd be nice

tender matrix
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so yea find someone you know

slim gorge
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so i cant pick a roommate and then just choose a single room

tender matrix
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uhh I did pch

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so im not sure

warm shard
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only one person has to add u as a roommate for it to link right?

timid island
warm shard
timid island
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I believe so

hushed stump
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does anyone know the acceptance rate for OOS Comp e?

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and if it is similar to EE or is there a big difference

tender matrix
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Something like that

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EE is like 50%

timid island
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Has anyone gotten off the waitlist yet?

manic jetty
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not yet

empty scroll
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yo @tender matrix for uiuc and composite gpa do you have two different transcripts or something

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kind of confused on them

tender matrix
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Like major gpa / overall gpa difference?

empty scroll
tender matrix
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Uhh there's one transcript

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I remember seeing my major gpa

empty scroll
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how can there be 4 gpas lol

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Term GPA—the GPA for your grades for a single semester
Total Institution—the GPA for all courses completed at Illinois
Total Transfer—the GPA for any courses outside of Illinois
Overall—the combined Institution and Transfer GPA

tender matrix
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It's on a website somewhere

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Lmaoo yea

empty scroll
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and people put one of those 4 for resumes lol

empty scroll
tender matrix
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I think overall

tender matrix
chilly tapir
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does anyone know how the admissions process works for male and female

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like am i competiting only against guys or everyone

slim gorge
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probably depends on ur major

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or college ur applying to

hasty plinth
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Yall trynna cop a new laptop before college whats the recommendations

gaunt lagoon
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Holy im still waitlisted

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Anyone on the same boat or is it just me ;-;

tender matrix
warm shard
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how do i find my advisor? can i email anyone in the cs department who is an advisor or an i assigned to one?

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i have questions about transfer credits

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and placement testing

merry brook
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Anyone know the Ambrose Scholarship from college of ACES? It automatically gave me 1500 dollars for each semester

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But I can't find any information for this

stuck mason
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base specs

tender matrix
royal yarrow
slim gorge
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is 4 ish hours of Battery life ok on a laptop? idk if I have to get a new one

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also is a Remarkable any good for taking notes bc it looks pretty cool

tender matrix
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Unless ur a masochist

merry brook
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Do all lecture rooms have socket to charge devices?

tender matrix
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Most don't

slim gorge
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@strong fox apologies for the ping but i have a question that can't wait too long

if i sign UIUC's housing contract, i know I can't cancel it after May 15 without paying a hefty fee, like half the room and board charges
but what do i do if i get into one of my waitlists later on? do i have no other choice but to stick to UIUC at this point?

strong fox
slim gorge
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alr thanks

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ive looked through the contract and i dont see anything regarding that

strong fox
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So @slim gorge here’s what I found:

You can cancel if you transfer universities and don’t move in, but you lose out on the $150 fee.

You can also not do priority housing but you obviously won’t get priority, your housing situation may not be ideal. Here’s a link

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Damn this server doesn’t have embeds yet

slim gorge
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never seen them embedded

strong fox
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Links sometimes do

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Guess not here

slim gorge
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that embedded for me

empty scroll
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would not reccomend one since they are so heavy

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get some ultrabook with a gpu and you should be fine with everything

stuck mason
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ipad way better

patent sundial
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when do housing emails get sent

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for a time card

slim gorge
empty scroll
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if its higher than try replacing the battery

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will extend your laptops lifespawn by a couple years

slim gorge
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I’ll see

tender matrix
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It lasts good enough for me

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But yea not exactly ideal at times

tender matrix
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You don't need a pad

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It's optional to use a pad

stuck mason
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yep

strong fox
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Text

tired robin
slim gorge
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it would be heavier yea

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are there enough outlets everywhere though

tired robin
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mba m1 has served me well for cs and creative work so

tired robin
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some rooms just...arent outlet friendly lmao

slim gorge
tired robin
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it doesnt have to be 1k

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can def snag a mba m1 for <$800 with some snooping around

slim gorge
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hmm

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you mean new?

tired robin
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yes

slim gorge
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huh

tired robin
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they used to have crazy sales or promos

slim gorge
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never thought Apple did decent sales

tired robin
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not sales, but promos

slim gorge
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sales + student discount would be good

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ah

tired robin
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student discount (-$100) + airpods (-$150?)

slim gorge
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I do not own airpods 💀

tired robin
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other retailers just plainly slash the price

slim gorge
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or do they mean buy airpods w it

tired robin
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but imo if you cant expect to daily drive ur current laptop for the next 4 years this may be sign to stick with one throughout college

tired robin
slim gorge
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ah fair

slim gorge
tired robin
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yeah not bad idea

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theres the whole max vs windows thing but thats a diff disc

slim gorge
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yea

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from what I know I think mac would be fine for college

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I can always just use my windows laptop in the dorm for fun

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oh it looks like there's 2020 m1s for $799 on amazon

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is 13" too small or is it a good size

tired robin
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depends what you expect

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ive worked on diff screen sizes and they always feel...the same LOL

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go to a best buy and get used to using it

slim gorge
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alr lol thanks

compact marten
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isn't 13" small for coding? sp. if you're using IDEs?

tender matrix
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its fine

compact marten
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what IDEs do you all use?

tender matrix
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Vscode

empty scroll
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I just bought a 15 inch to be safe

tender matrix
gaunt lagoon
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Anyone here waitlisted and heard anything back from them ;-; I was rejected from Grainger but they said I can still get accepted into the shcool

tender matrix
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no waitlists have released iirc, just saying tho, grainger waitlist acceptance is quite rare

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almost 0 for CS

gaunt lagoon
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GAHHH DAMNNN

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Explains why i alr got rejected from grainger

timid island
tender matrix
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All the CS programs barely have waitlist movement

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I don't know a single person that got off the CS wait-list for any CS or CS + x program

timid island
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Damn

compact marten
tender matrix
hasty plinth
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are u kidding me all the math 257 classes are full????

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why tf are there only three sections

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how tf are freshmen supposed to register then

tender matrix
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uh

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tbh they were full before any freshmen registered I thnk

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they might open an extra section

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dont worry about it tho

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cause you can take it sem 2

hasty plinth
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Actually so depraved

tender matrix
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what classes are you taking sem 1?

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or plan to take

hasty plinth
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cs 124, some chp class, was planning to take 257

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How many other classes should i do

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I need to take education classes i think

tender matrix
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hmmm

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try to aim for 15 or 16 CH

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lets see

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how many math reqs do you got down

hasty plinth
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257 is the only one left for me

tender matrix
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oh damn ok

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so yea easy first sem

hasty plinth
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i finished everything else thru aps/net math

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yeah

tender matrix
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uhh

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ok so cs124

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try for 257, but you might not get it

hasty plinth
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Yeah idt so either

tender matrix
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alternatively... you could do 415

hasty plinth
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It says Restriction(s):
Not intended for First Time Freshman students.

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so i dont wanna kill my gpa

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lol

tender matrix
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ohhh

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yea you can't take that then...

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hmmmmm

tender matrix
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heres an idea

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tell them you can't register for 257

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and then go for 415

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415 isnt harder than 257

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just no comp aspect

hasty plinth
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Hmmmm

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I’ll see

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did u take 257

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?

tender matrix
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im taking it next sem

hasty plinth
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Oh nice nice

warm shard
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i have calc 3 credit but idk how to get credit for it

hasty plinth
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I did math241 thru nethmath uiuc it automatically transfers

warm shard
hasty plinth
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Na

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Cuz it was uiucs official course thru netmath

tender matrix
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They have transfer credit forms you need to fill out

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Did you get credit thru community college?

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If so, use transferology website to figure out if it transfers into UIUC, since they don't accept all CC classes

warm shard
warm shard
tender matrix
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And you can register for the next set of classes

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For a CS major I think that means you do lin alg or stats for cs

bitter sparrow
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I in FAR

tender matrix
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Not bad

grand nymph
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WL movement?