#elder-scrolls-general-chat

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past steeple
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Also fits well into a mod I'm working on so all the better

sleek mountain
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without empire, how to distinct between forebear and crowns lol.

weak sapphire
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Cannons and magoc

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Colonial swashbucklers and Crusader era Arabs

wanton violet
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wonder how many time the imperials will try to build an empire only to see it collapse^^'

weak sapphire
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Empire building is a natural consequence of nationalistic identity

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So long as the Cyrods see themselves as aunited people, they will seek to expand their influence.

dim reef
sleek mountain
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is imperial have biggest population in tamriel?

weak sapphire
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Unclear

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We havr very little info about population demographics

wanton violet
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i mean, i compare the empire to roman and once byzantium fell, nodoby really tried to rebuilt it. many claimed to be sucessor but that never gone anywhere

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i think wood elves are the most populous, or at least among elves they are if i trust that one book i read in elder scrolls online

weak sapphire
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Many people tried to rebuild jt, with varying degrees of success

wanton violet
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realistically, 2 closest to ever claim mantle of rome was charlemagne during his high period and holy roman empire under the hapsburg but otherwise, nearly every big country claimed mantle and got ignored

sleek mountain
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wood elf is more like halfling rather than elf lol.

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tbf, TES still basically have usual rpg races template.

past steeple
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Tes started as a d&d game

sleek mountain
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their dwarf is different but the nords are kinda like dwarf on normal fantasy archetype

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brash, love drunk, hate elves, hate magic lol

dim reef
sleek mountain
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and breton is half elf

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imperial is your regular men I think.

wanton violet
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yeah, imperial are the boring gondor people with big empire and white city of marble

weak sapphire
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Well, they are NOW

dim reef
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back in the arena and daggerfall days the bretons were the generic humans... then redguard was like "what if the diversed place had only one race of human?"

wanton violet
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in lotr, i always got attracted by mysterious culture like the easterling or the haradrims (the evil mens as they are called), like for elder scrolls where dwemer and in lesser extend argonian pre dark intrigue me most

sleek mountain
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oh right redguard are just exotic men, kinda samurai society from desert

dim reef
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yeah anime desert pirates

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redguards are cool

wanton violet
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remind me of ottoman north africa basically aesthetically wise

sleek mountain
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lol gaiden shinji must be biggest redguard weebos

weak sapphire
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Anyway, if you wanted to distinguish between Crowns and Forebears without using the Empire as a base, you could stylistically divide their influences

wanton violet
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i like the ebonheart pact's idea for a government for tamriel, a council with a member from each province/major race ruling in cooperation

weak sapphire
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The Forebears could be more Ottoman, more Arabian Nights, while the Crowns could be a mix of Age of Sail and ancient Egypt

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Then have the Crowns working to recover the ancient weapons and technoligies of Yokuda, while the Forebears are more accepting of Magic.

dim reef
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other than one didn't like tiber

weak sapphire
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The Forebears eere a cultural faction that developed out of the initial waves into Tamriel. They tend to be more flexible and accepting of other ideas amd cultures.

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The Crowns came later, and represent the old nobility and traditionalists of Yokuda

last vessel
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The remains of the noble class against the political descendants of the warrior class. Sort of.

sleek mountain
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and there's third one who hated by both.

weak sapphire
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Well, there are afew others, but those are the 2 major cultural divisions

dim reef
weak sapphire
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There's also the Alik'r, who are nomads who largely live in the deserts and should 1000% be modeled after Fremen

dim reef
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but thats depressing because cyrus

weak sapphire
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Cyrus was a very... Forebear Crown.

last vessel
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There's the outcasts who sacrifice their honour to kill dangerous undead.

weak sapphire
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Yeah, can't remember their name though

last vessel
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Because stabbing your ancestors is bad M'kai...

weak sapphire
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Even if said ancestor is trying to eat your face

last vessel
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The Ash'abah tribe

weak sapphire
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Ah yes.

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Still, the general theme of the Forebears is that they are more willing to look for outside help for problems, and have frequently worked with the Empire.

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The Crowns are more independent and xenophobic, and endorse more traditional power structures and solutions.

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This isn't universally true, though, as Cyrus was a Crown, and was very innovative and flexable.

And the Redguard leader of the Daggerfall Covenant was also a Crown.

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So, its really more like... uuuh... how do i say this withoht causing problems...

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Liberal or Conservative. Goals, solutions and approaches may change, or even flip entirely, but you typically identify as one or the other.

dim reef
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you guys do you i guess... get murdered by camoran usurper

weak sapphire
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Lol

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Hammerfell could offer a really interesting setting and culture, like we haven't seen since Morrowind

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Buuuut... i don't expect it. I expect nothing but tacky Arab analogies with no thoughtful explorarion or commentary

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It could be a really cool mix of cultural influences from all around the world, creating adeep and diverse landscape and population.

But I'm pretty sure we're just going to get Ottoman Empire, Tamriel Edition

dim reef
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yeah hammerfell could be really fun

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i don't really know what im expecting though

weak sapphire
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I set my bars low

dim reef
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same

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i don't expect skyrim 2 i just expect something :P

fleet vine
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do u think its possible to see TES VI before 2026?

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to release

eager remnant
fleet vine
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I agree

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It's insane when you think about it

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15 years

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almost if not the end of the current console generation

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im always pc but its a detail

dim reef
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Isn't that the truth?

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True

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However - by that metric - all stories are jazz

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Pattern then improvise then pattern then improvise and then soar in a solo

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then pattern then dissipate

late ruin
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hello I'm sorry for the off topic but why isn't there a TES:O channel?

dim reef
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Oblivion?

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Or online?

weak sapphire
dim reef
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Oh ok

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Nevermind

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Thanks

weak sapphire
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This discord is specifically for Bethesda Game Studios, not their sister studios under the Bethesda Softworks publisher.

late ruin
eager remnant
manic badger
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Is anyone else having massive bug issues with ESO?

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I have had everything...

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From invisible enemies to NPCS who were there in name only.

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And I can't interact with these NPC's?

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If this is an inappropriate place to be complaining about this issue...

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I apologise.

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For whatever reason...

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And quite tellingly.

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The ticket system wouldn't work.

plush sapphire
left seal
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I hope 6 can manage to make the daedra less super on\obviously evil complete monsters, like a few it makes sense for, but even Azura Malacath Medidia were needlessly jerks during their quests, Sheo is about the only one who had an unambiguously good quest,

wind kraken
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I would like to see them offer up options to finagle a way to complete their quests w/o being a "bad guy" i.e. speech skill high enough to persuade them, sneaky enough to stealth thru...

fleet vine
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Do you think Microsoft acquirement could in some ways speed up TESVI release? Not rush ofc...I mean speed up.

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By making the team bigger...or it is something BGS wouldn't want? (To make the team bigger)

left seal
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i have nothing against doing Molag bal's quest being a evil thing to do, but it would be nice if Boethia wasn't reduced to an egomaniacal for the evulz jerk,

left seal
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just learned that Kahjiit believe Boethiah and Mehpala are a couple, so.... Mephala is a spider, spiders eat by dissolving their food, ergo Mephala likes her food like she likes the gender of her lovers, fluid,

sleek mountain
left seal
eager remnant
magic tundra
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they won't just abandon Starfield so close before its completion, and they can't work faster on ES6 than they can work on it

eternal tapir
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I'd reckon the production schedule might go from four years to five years with that extra financial support

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Betting for a 2027 release date now

fleet vine
lusty stirrup
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How do I get rid of elder scroll

magic tundra
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you can sell it to Urag

lusty stirrup
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….

weak sapphire
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You let Obsidian make a mainline game.

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That'll sink the series right fast

dim reef
sleek mountain
dim reef
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ive been a fan since 2012 but since 2018 I have been getting stir crazy from the series @-@

weak sapphire
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Thats what ESO is for. Yeah, the gameplay is different and the stories are more structured, bjt best lire contribtion since Morrowind. Maybe even since Redguard

dim reef
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i was playing eso and blades for most of that time and it still didn't help. all it did was make me create fan fictions

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which is arguably worse

weak sapphire
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Lol

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No, pondering on how you'd further the world and its stories, and writinf hundreds of pages of story and mechanics ideas, is worse

lusty stirrup
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Guys

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How do I recharge my weapons after they run out

dim reef
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use a soul gem

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make sure it's charged

lusty stirrup
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Ok

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Also is there any good custom race mod that won’t ruin game

sleek mountain
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ugh, too immersive game is kinda not fun in my opinion. like take day to learn spell, or training anything.

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prefer i could do anything rather couldn't do this or that because its not realistic or not immersive.

weak sapphire
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I hate the word Immersion

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Immersion is being pulled into something so it consumes your focus

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It isn't realism, though realism can help with it

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An immersive game isn't one that feels like real life, its one you start playing Friday night... and then suddenly its tuesday morning and you have 10 unanswered calls about why you misses work yesterday

sleek mountain
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if npc capable using illusion magic, i don't think its good on player side. I mean i imagine if npc enemy capable make your follower turn against you or make you stop combat because calm spell. or dragon using other shouts like marked to death or something.

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its interesting but it can make something difficult, i play elder scrolls not for challenge combat.

weak sapphire
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Depending on the Illusion Magic and how itnworks, you could do it

sleek mountain
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i mean it could be done but there's must be a reason why bethesda choose didn't implemented it. i only see paralysis magic only used on scene.

dim reef
gloomy basalt
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Killed him there

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Seriouely he is an ash pile after that

dim reef
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What are we talking about? ._.

gloomy basalt
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If anything realistic mechanics are some of the least immersive things you can add

sleek mountain
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yeah, i know but most people probably not think like that.

gloomy basalt
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I dont think you're around the right people

sleek mountain
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I know immersive is thing that can make something believable

gloomy basalt
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Most people thinkn of immersive as "does this make me want to play the game more?"

dim reef
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What if tes 6 has realistic sword play where you flip the sword and start whacking someone with the hilt? I think that’d be immersive

gloomy basalt
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And "Does this make the game draw me into the world"

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I dont know what to tell you but people HATE realistic mechanics in most games

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Because no one wants to play a real life simulator

dim reef
gloomy basalt
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Woops

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As we all know, real life sucks

gloomy basalt
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Wait till they realize most of the games they play are full of clipping

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Its not noticable half the time

sleek mountain
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some people complained when weapon not degraded on skyrim, or food not rotten in dungeon lol

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they don't think its not immersive enough.

gloomy basalt
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No they think its not REALISTIC enough

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Immersion is not realism

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Some people just dont realize this

dim reef
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I love the lore that draugr are lighting the candles and get back up when you kill them

sleek mountain
gloomy basalt
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Yeah

sleek mountain
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that's why i said prefer more fun things rather immersive things.

dim reef
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And some of the physics glitches can be funny. I remember one time when I was leaving Windhelm it started raining goats and chickens. 😆

gloomy basalt
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They say, with a pfp from one of the single most immersive games made

gloomy basalt
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One time i killed a drsgon by jumping on it lmao

dim reef
dim reef
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Had like 10 goats and I think 15 chickens fall from the sky.

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When I was younger I killed two frost dragons but they didn’t evaporate and every time I fast traveled one of their corpses followed me to the location until it finally stopped in windhelm. I named him Fredrick

gloomy basalt
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One time I killed ulfric prior to the entire civil war questline

dim reef
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Then there was the giant I killed and it's corpse started to float up.

gloomy basalt
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He's just ascending

dim reef
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I thought it looked like art

sleek mountain
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i don't have a heart to hunt the giant unless its bounty.

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and heard about the giant based on artist dad make me more feel bad 🤣

dim reef
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I don't hunt giants either but this one attacked me for no reason so he was asking for it.

dim reef
dim reef
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Just started a new playthrough and this like the 5th time I've had a giant in the middle of the path to Whiterun from Riverwood at the start of game when I need to go to Whiterun and see Balgruuf. Has anyone else had this happen? I'm just glad that he's been docile each time.

sleek mountain
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rand encounter

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usually followed by painted cow

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if you kill the cow, he probably attack you 😄

dim reef
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And he doesn't move and will stay there for 2 days.

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Although he did kill the assassin that attacked me for me.

lusty stirrup
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How to get falkrearhw gaurds to stop hitting me

magic tundra
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depends on the game

tawdry sorrel
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Attacking you or hitting on you?

soft geyser
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How many more tickets are left for the house?

sage sentinel
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Uhh..Where can I get some in-game support for Elder Scrolls V?

magic tundra
magic tundra
nimble pond
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If we do get to play more with ships in TESVI, I hope we get to see Maelstrom of Bal occurrences :)

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And exploring Ul'vor Kus in the Sea of Pearls

hollow glen
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Hello hello, i guess there are people with knowledge here so i just ask. I recently bought the Anniversary edition. I play on PC. Steam is telling me, that it has been installed after i bought it, but its just not. I've no content ingame except the free stuff like the golden armor and survival mode. Also in the DOWNLOAD tab of steam no installation is listed. It's really making me mad rn bc i was kinda hyped and i can't figure out whats wrong. I dont know if im just to stupid to see it and its obvious, but thats the first dlc i ever bought and i dont know what im doing wrong.
Please help.
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I just noticed, the icon is gold so i guess its installed? I still have not any content in the game, ive checked all kinds of new items in the console and checked the new playerhome spots.

magic tundra
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it should ask to download automatically when you start the game, but if it does not, have you tried going into the Creation Club menu option (from within the game) and downloading the creations there?

left seal
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what do ya'll think of a semi return to procedural generation? like having spawn points for dungeons but randomizing which goes where and which dungeon has which layout?

prime marlin
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id rather dungeons be hand made and look nice

left seal
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Dungeons can still be that, it would just pick which one it's using for a specific name, and all that entails, I.E. if there are 4 huge dwemer ruins in the game there would be that number of them but it randomizes which one is which, kulongez may use layout 01 during one playthrough but use 04 the next,

prime marlin
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then you wouldnt be able to have most of skyrims dwemer ruins

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which have several entry points from outside

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and very specific layouts

left seal
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The "multiple entry points" are mostly alternate exits usually connected to an elevator or blocked by a wooden board from the inside, or require a key to open, none of them are really enhanced by this any more then the dungeons with a silly hidden door that leads back to the entrance,

magic tundra
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I've had quite an interesting idea for procedual generation for dungeons
most likely too complicated to actually pull off, but if it could be done, it'd be great

left seal
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it becomes much harder when you want to combine it with the kind of cool open world modern bethesda games have, but it may be required to get them to go back to the days when equipment felt good like it did in morrowind,

sleek mountain
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well abyss system on blades is procedural dungeon

weak sapphire
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I think using procedural generation to create the world, then going in and detailing by hand is the best approach

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Use a map sculptor tool to create the map. Use a Procedural Generation tool to cover the map. Then go through all the sites generate and adjust as needed.

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Even if you cut out a third of the time for manual placement of static objects, you're still making the process more efficient.

left seal
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Honestly if it wouldn't take away from the amazing overworlds i would advocate for islands of fixed design surrounded by procedurally generated areas, like after you travel so far from white run game is like "Move on into the wilderness?" and then it moves you into a new map that it generates from a seed so you can save that if you prefer a more static learnable world, and then you can see land marks around the map to head to to return to hand made zones,

weak sapphire
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I think it would take away from more than just the Overworld. It would complicate player information sharing, creating modded locations and such.

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Procedural generation is a great tool, but i think its biggest strength lies in pre-generation. Priming the canvas before the artist goes in and does their work

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Beyond that, i think it should be limited to minor quests, and maybe an extradimensional dungeon

gloomy basalt
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You know what they should use procedural generation for?
Random encounters

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As well as generic weapons and armor

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Give them randomly generated details

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Have a list of like 50 odd accesories for each type of armor or weapon

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And have you be able to craft said random accessories

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Purely for cosmetic reasons though, minor stat buffs have always been dumb

prime marlin
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so like fallout 4

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specifically like how it handles the visual condition of institute armor

weak sapphire
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Crafting is a WHOLE other discussion

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I play a lot of games with procedurally generated environments, and I'll be entirely forthright. I don't think the tech js ready for the sort kf close-inspection world we see in TES.

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But to do the rough work at the start, and to string together inconsequential filler quests? Yeah. That it can handle

dim reef
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Hello

weak sapphire
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Hello

sweet lance
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I don't think it's a good idea to make everything randomly-generated in TES because it wouldn't fit the style. It works in Fallout because it's a post-apocalyptic game, so almost everything, such as weapons and armor in the world, are expected to be randomly made from scraps.

TES doesn't have that excuse, having every little thing randomized would feel out of place, not to mention a waste of time and resources from a development point of view. Additionally, making dungeon layouts randomized would feel like a cop-out while making individual dungeons more repetitive. It runs the risk of making some dungeons in the world having almost the same layout, which is a recipe for disappointment.

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That being said, I wouldn't mind a similar base-building system to Fallout 4/76 being added in TES 6. Skyrim's random encounters use a similar system to Fallout 3's, which unless I'm mistaken, was the first 3D open-world Bethesda game to have random encounters.

weak sapphire
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Procedural and Randomised are different things

left seal
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How would everyone feel about a spin off/crossover between TES and FO? like the fallout Premise but it's applied to the world of TES?

magic tundra
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crossover?
nah... how would that even work??

left seal
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Basically you move Tamriel up to the tech level of Fallout and instead of societal stasis kicking in in the 1950s it kicked in during the middleages, and then the empire and Akavir nuked eachother, ect

magic tundra
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eww
I hate post-nuclear wastelands
that's why I don't play fallout

prime marlin
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this shows a slight misunderstanding of the elderscrolls tech level

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its very mixed and isnt much related to time

reef hedge
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everyone knows tes and fallout already share the same universe

eager remnant
left seal
eager remnant
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What do you mean by "premise"?

past steeple
left seal
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the "it's a post apocolytic future of a world that became lost in it's own past"

reef hedge
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fallout is the dawn era, clearly

past steeple
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Fallout's premise doesn't fit to TES, the idea behind Fallout is rooted firmly in real-world commentary

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TES' world doesn't have the political or social depth of ours

left seal
past steeple
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The cultures in all parts of TES are loosely inspired by real world examples and historical parallels, but they never serve as more than a base on which to build more classical fantasy stories

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The Empire is very loosely inspired by the Roman Empire, but simultaneously it has a secret service that's basically a bunch of people LARPing as samurais

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The actual storylines in the games are much more Tolkien-esque than real world commentary

left seal
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eh, the game jump around on that matter, there is a constant jarring contrast between the writting that wants to be a high fantasy series and the writing that wants to be a dark fantasy setting, and the gameplay that wants to be a low fantasy setting bordering on swords and sorcery,

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that said the tolkein stuff is always the worst of it, outside oif the lovecraft stuff,

past steeple
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Aside from this I don't think this means TES can't serve as a medium in which to tell serious, non-high fantasy stories

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TES hasn't really explored that much yet though

prime marlin
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elderscrolls also has scifi aspects

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like sotha sils entire thing

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him having androids

left seal
# prime marlin him having androids

Sotha Sil is magipunk/steam punk same as the dwemer, the writing is just inconsistent about the scope and scale of these things because TES doesn't obsess over the lore most of the time being very happy to just rely on broad strokes,

prime marlin
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no its not steampunk at all

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pay a bit more attention to sotha sil

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his stuff is clockwork and science

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he has computers and androids

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sotha sils tech doesnt run on steam

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it runs on magic and electricity his fabricants are alive sapient beings

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and he has computers

left seal
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1 post your entire post at once, 2 clockpunk is a derivative of steam punk, and so is magipunk,

prime marlin
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1 dont tell me what to do
2 neither of those involve computers

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it was designed as alot of scifi stuff so il go with the intent not what some other person says

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i cant help my issues with how i think

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so do not tell me what to do or what not to do

gloomy basalt
past steeple
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The Blades

weak sapphire
gloomy basalt
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Ah

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Delphine can go jump in a fire for all I care

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That's all I know of the blades I'm sorry

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Anyway the dunmer make better samurais

prime marlin
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the blades did alot more in previous games

weak sapphire
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They were the former bodyguards and spies for the Septim Emperors. And they were honestly terrible at both jobs

prime marlin
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oblivion and morrowind

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theyre so terrible they manged to arrange the entirety of morrowinds events successfully

gloomy basalt
past steeple
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The Blades' reputation was waaaaaaaaaaay too overblown, they had some successes but also catastrophic failures like the invasion of Akavir and the entire plot of Oblivion

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Bot pls

weak sapphire
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The only thing the Blades ever did on their own, was identify a single smuggler base in Morrowind

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I mean, Tharn impersonated Uriel for 10 YEARS, and they didn't even seem to notice

prime marlin
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no government agency works on their own

orchid thicket
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The Blades were once Dragonslayers called the Dragonguard. A very long time ago anyway

sweet lance
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They're still better at their jobs than anything the Vigil of Stendarr have done.

weak sapphire
prime marlin
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and your being hard on a group because one of the most powerful mages used insanely powerful illusions

past steeple
prime marlin
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tharn didnt just trick the blades

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he tricked the entirety of the world except for one person

weak sapphire
sweet lance
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Like I said in a similar discussion, the Vigil of Stendarr are the TES equivalent of the Pittsburgh Pirates. They just keep losing all the time.

prime marlin
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and without them most of the series couldnt happen

orchid thicket
weak sapphire
prime marlin
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except the blades didnt cause the fire

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they almost alwys act on the word of the somewhat paychic emperor

weak sapphire
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And almost always manage to screw it up and make the problem worse

prime marlin
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they dont though

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they do exactly as thwy were supposed to by the emperors plan

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the group in skyrim are a different thing

weak sapphire
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They lost the Totem of Tiber Septim and inadvertantly facilitated the start of the War of the Bretony, requiring the Agent to clean up their mess.

They undermined the Dunmeri Temple, giving Dagoth Ur greater ground and then tried to use local superstition to increase the Empire's authority in Morrowind, until their OWN AGENT said "The hell with the Empire, save Morrowind". And the end result was the total rejection of imperial authority in Morrowind.

They failed to protect the Emperor or listen to his words during the evaccuation, then failed to keep taps on his heir, THEN lost the Amulet of Kings.

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The Blades suck. Tehy have always sucked.

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And, and this is personal taste more than anything, their Equipment is incredibly lame

gloomy basalt
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Yeah

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Again, dunmer are better samurai

weak sapphire
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Eh, Samurai in general are pretty lame

eager remnant
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I've said it before: the Blades are the Keystone Kops of Tamriel.

sweet lance
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Even the Orcs are better with samurai armor, the Morrowind Orcish armor is stylized after Japanese armor.

weak sapphire
sweet lance
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Funnily enough, the Oblivion Orcish armor looks Korean, while the Skyrim Orcish armor looks Mongolian.

weak sapphire
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When Orsinium thrives, the Orcs invest more in the artistic stylings of their craft. When it's stull struggling to eke out an existence, their armour is curder and more utilitarian

sleek mountain
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Probably there are many blades agent doing something like protagonist TES Blades on daily basis. bethesda just undermined them on most main series lol.

sweet lance
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I feel that Skyrim was the point where even Bethesda recognized that the Blades are complete screw-ups. Even TES:Blades features a quest line where you hunt a dragon with a fellow blade. Only for him to then target another dragon that you've allied with, so you have to stop him. I wouldn't be surprised if TES 6 completely renders the Blades extinct.

weak sapphire
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I remember a conversation once, where we were talking about the Blade's acomplishments...

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And i was like "Didn't they once thwart an assassination attempt, and then chase the assassins across the rooftops of the Imperial City, fighting an hour long airborne battle above the treets?"

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And then i remember "No, wait, those are the White Lions of Chrace..."

sleek mountain
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they are really not good spy and guard but probably great dragon hunters. i mean oculatus is better than blades.

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they successfully destroy Dark Brotherhood but just didn't expect any survivors still can slip out.

sweet lance
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Ironically, their dragon-hunting ways appears to be setting up their complete downfall to extinction.

wanton violet
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death by over specialization

sleek mountain
#

what if some akaviri guys appear and rebuild the blades as proper dragon hunter?

sweet lance
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I feel that the Tsaesci would simply forget the Blades existed.

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By the time of the 4th era I mean.

sleek mountain
#

Even dragonborn can question delphine "what is blades" lol

wanton violet
#

feel like the blades mirror the roman's praetorian guard in the way they started prestigious and as elite mercenary, only to latter boil down as petty people using their rank/title to get more power/wealth by toying with the imperial system they're set in

sleek mountain
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I guess common people didn't know how much behind history of white gold concordat

left seal
dim reef
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Thank God that the Blades is rotting down the bottom-most feet of the Throat of the World somewhere, then.

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They deserve it after making me choose between Paarthunrox and Delphine

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They're no Oblivion Blades

gloomy basalt
#

The oblivion blades let the entire blood line die
And lost the amulet
They sucked

magic tundra
#

they beat back a daedric invasion

left seal
#

Champion did that, that's like giving them credit for stopping Dagoth Ur

eager remnant
flint quail
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The blades just pointed the champion in the correct general direction at best.

weak sapphire
left seal
weak sapphire
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Oh, absolutely. I didn't mean that as an endorsement of the Blades

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Just that, you know. Tracking down a rare book vendor shows they can at least read.

flint quail
#

They seem to be more competent when we aren't around.

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But I think that's true of most organizations.

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Look at the companions.
They've been at war with the silver hand for quite awhile. Neither side seems to be winning but just days after we join the silverhand breaches Jorvaskar and kills Kodlak which is seemingly an unprecedented escalation of violence

Now we do end up wiping them out but WE do that.

weak sapphire
#

The problem is, we don't really have any information of their successes

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They're either SO good, no one ever hears about them...

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Which is frankly just silly.

Or they're consistently bad and have never really acomplished anything of note.

left seal
#

it's one of those things where the writing the lore and the gameplay just don't line up,

wanton violet
#

i feel like they're like the irl praetorian guard, elite soldier hyped for their competency, but later generation they devolved into petty tools who barely manage to do their job right (irl praetorian becoming corrupt to hell and basically deciding who can or cannot be emperor while blades seem to just grow incompetent/clueless with time)

rustic birch
wide garnet
gloomy basalt
#

I wonder why the empire doesn't make TLDB emperor

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It'd make so much sense

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They'd have a stable bloodline again

wide garnet
gloomy basalt
#

They needed a plot for TES VI?

wide garnet
#

One reason I can think of for the Dragonborn NOT to be Emperor is that he/she has Waaaaay too much wanderlust to reconquer, let alone govern, a continent-spanning empire.

gloomy basalt
#

Are you sure?

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This dragon born casually beat alduin and miirak

wide garnet
cobalt bramble
#

The biggest reason why TLD won't be Emperor in TES VI is because it would make it hard for millions of different players to accept when their dragonborns weren't the politician or conquering type. The less TES6 references TLD, the better we can fill in the gaps ourselves

gloomy basalt
#

But the champion of cyrodil is sheogorath

cobalt bramble
#

Tru but it never gets mentioned again in Skyrim

wide garnet
#

Oh, great. Here we go again. The old argument.

sleek mountain
#

doesn't matter, prisoner destined gone from history after the event.

eager remnant
gloomy basalt
#

Who wouldn't?

vale gorge
#

Talos in greek myths is a giant automatron made of bronze, Talos in Elder Scrolls is a man that used a giant automatron to conquer elves

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Neat little detail

dim reef
weak sapphire
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As far as the Dragonborn thing does, it's because the Dragonborn are A; not a stable bloodline in the slightest, and B; have no claim to Divine Right anymore

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The Dragonfires are gone, there is no more need for a Dragonborn Emperor to sit on the throne, they have no more claim to it than any other petty warlord.

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Plus, it's worth noting, Sheogorath is Sheogorath. IF the CoC did Mantle him, they're gone. Only Sheogorath remains.

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It's a very different scenario to sitting a mortals butt on a throne, and then trying to account for the potentially millions of different personal Dragonborn that it could be.

left seal
#

exactly they are even kind of mum on weather or not our other PCs are 100% behind other events, something like this would be all but impossible to do in that regard,

ancient flume
#

I wonder how the Argonians/Khajiit will look in the new ES game.
More beastly? More human?
Weird crab walk?

eager remnant
lavish hearth
magic tundra
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I dislike not being able to wear boots - but with the technology of skyrim, they could easily change the model to allow for digitgrade

dim reef
#

Morrowind feels quite wild, even more than later or previous games

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I love it for that reason

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Same goes for FF7

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I mean, Honeybee Inn? The dolphin? Cait Sith?

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It made the game all the more fun for me

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Similarly with Morrowind: Skooma? Digitigrade feet? Vivec's Sermons? How about that wizard who just fell from the sky?

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In a way, I wish serious games embraced their weirdness & surreality more often

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Cause then, it's not playing just another drama

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If you do it right - there's nothing like it on earth

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And years later we're remembering it - like we're doing here right now

gloomy basalt
#

100% agree

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Games are meant to not be like real life

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And that helps a lot

dim reef
#

Yeah - it also helps to remind one that it's not all heroics and destinies

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If it was just breaking your bones and rescuing your princess - what would the point of stories be? We'd be scurrying to mathematics instead for refuge because we will always need a relief valve

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We need more silt striders and floating rocks XD

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And levitating leaps across the map lol

hidden herald
#

Aren't the Silt Striders almost extinct by the time of TESV?

flint quail
#

The dragonborn bred them back to safe levels for fun and profit.

dim reef
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What does a silt strider larvae look like?

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Is it a giant worm?

hidden herald
#

I'd assume that would be approximately what one would look like

orchid thicket
#

I believe the one he has he found in a cave or something

weak sapphire
#

You would expect a species that lives in volcanic ashlands to be more adapted to survive volcanic activity

flint quail
#

Lava is gonna Lava

weak sapphire
#

Tell that to Tyranids

dim reef
magic tundra
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Is it the last silt strider, or the last silt strider of Vvardenfell?
I can't remember

dim reef
#

I think in all of Vvardenfell

left seal
#

I believe Dusty was only the last on Solsteim, since we know a few areas of Vardenfell mostly avoided the worst of the eruption some adults were likely still alive, let alone the unseen wild herds of them,

eager remnant
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We cannot be certain how many are left. Revus Sarvani tells us, "The blast from the volcano wiped most of them out. Found Dusty here in a small cave on Vvardenfell." Like so many other things in the Elder Scrolls universe this is open to interpretation. But if one survived on Vvardenfell that means others may have survived as well. And they can probably be found in greater numbers on Mainland Morrowind.

dim reef
#

why would bethesda remove the best creature on tamriel though...

tawdry sorrel
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Spawn them in 😂

nimble pond
#

Why would they remove the race I'd be most interested in playing as lol

flint quail
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You wanna play as a silt strider?

nimble pond
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Yes

flint quail
#

It sucks that the dwemer are gone. I have some ideas for them if they were playable.

nimble pond
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No I meant dwemer lol

flint quail
#

It'd be perfect for a conjuration focused character though instead of spirits you'd summon mechanical constructs.

nimble pond
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Play as a one too?

flint quail
#

As a construct ? That's an interesting idea.

magic tundra
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I had a skyrim mod in the works long ago where you would "play as" (or rather, remote control) a dwarven sphere

orchid thicket
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If you download the Dwemer race mod and make an excuse, you could rp as a Dwemer

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Though no NPC would probably acknowledge it sadly

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Just gave me an idea for Yagrum Bagarn as the Dragonborn

dim reef
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wolf men... or were they fox men?

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why did they exist again...?

orchid thicket
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Fox iirc, might be wrong. A plague wiped them afaik

magic tundra
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the Lilmothiit were vulpine (i.e. fox-like)
they were killed by the knahaten flu, if i remember correctly

orchid thicket
#

Weren't there silver-skinned people too that suffered from the same plague?

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I forget their name tho

magic tundra
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Yep, the Kothringi

nimble pond
weak sapphire
#

Mmmm

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One of the best episodes of Trek, ever

orchid thicket
#

Why has Charles Xavier got a robot part?

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jk

flint quail
#

Steampunk dwemer cyborgs do sound like a fun time.

cinder idol
bitter kestrel
#

Reminder please folks to try to avoid using flashing gifs, thank you

dim reef
#

im gonna look em up

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ah, two paragraphs on uesp

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fantastic lore

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The Lilmothiit were a nomadic tribal group, and left few enduring signs of their existence.
big world building mood

weak sapphire
#

Likely just another race of Beastmen. The origins of which remain unclear.

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Personally, i think the Beastmen (Goblins, Imga, Sload, Lilmothiit, Ogres, etc) are Wandering Ehlnofey who were not transformed by Lorkhan and Kyne. Left to their own divices, they took vaguely humanoid shapes, but with their individual tribes adopting different characteristics. When day 1 started, and their physical fluidity ended, they were simpmy different scattered tribes with different appearances.

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Some were widely successful, and spread across Tamriel, like Goblins. Others were wiped put, like the Bird-Men and the Lilmothiit.

night crystal
#

I saw a bunch of cool Morrowind and Daggerfall posters on the walls of Bethesda Softworks HQ in "The Making of Oblivion", anyone know where I can get one?

past steeple
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these are probably like 20 years old by now, doubtful theyre still being sold

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but you could check bethesda's own merch store ig

dim reef
dim reef
dim reef
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My secret? Non-crapitiude is given

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I managed to get through the maze of Reddit, FB, Discord etc like this

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neh?

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i still want a netch plushie but i don't understand american online shopping stuff

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Unfortunately i can't help you there - I'm not American

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im not either

dim reef
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I imagine that they have pretty much the same functionality as Ebay or FB Marketplace though

#

Amazon if it has unfortunately reached you

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ebay seems to have it

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nvm i don't trust that

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and its in dollars 😬

#

Yeah ebay is not trustworthy those days

#

What's your country's equivalent of either ebay or Amazon?

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Mine is Trade-Me

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we have ebay and amazon in england. but i don't trust what ebay had on it and amazon doesn't sell the plushies >_>

violet lily
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Gamingheads is decent, but I dunno if they'll ship outside the US

dim reef
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yeah... thats the big issue

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Looks like Amazon is your best bet as much as I dislike it

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I don't want to resort in making my own plushies but I guess I have to

#

"No ethical consumption under capitalism" really

violet lily
#

I've only had a handful of bad experiences on eBay fwiw, and I've been using it since 2006.

#

I've gone through eBay somewhat recently to get items from LootCrate ElderScrolls boxes

magic tundra
#

you have the ability to make your own plushies?

dim reef
#

i know how to knit

dim reef
dim reef
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i have no grey wool though so i cant make him that well >_>

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Doesn't matter - still awwww

magic tundra
dim reef
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then I have that

magic tundra
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oh, yeah, hair

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it's... grey-black

inner vector
#

Help: so I just started playing elder scrolls V again and started some new characters, but they refuse to level up. I was able to level them both up to level two, but once the level up bar was full and a message popped up that I can level up my character, I went into the skill tree and it won't let me do anything. I tried to level up skills with an npc and that didn't fix anything. Then i leveled up through console commands and still no change. I know I can add perks and change max health/magica with commands, but it is really annoying to do that

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any suggestions?

eager remnant
inner vector
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I'm not, but I'll check again to make sure they're disabled

#

thanks

magic tundra
inner vector
#

Yup, I jut figured that out, lol

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thanks

dim reef
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cool for nostalgia purposes

magic tundra
sleek mountain
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using bed roll everywhere is lil bit cheating on survival mode

rich mango
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What is your favourite character in elder Scrolls? Let us know since we are working on new costume for our LARP Event, we could pick you suggestion!

past steeple
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divayth fyr or vivec

rich mango
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Divayth fyr is already in making !

eager remnant
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As much as I dislike Oblivion's writing I've always thought that Martin was a rather intriguing character. I'll put in a second vote for Vivec as well. I imagine he would be a fun character to make a costume for. 🙂

orchid thicket
#

Either Gelebor for me or Yagrum Bagarn

dim reef
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i have other favourite characters but theres like,,, too many of em and they're not a disney villain

rich mango
dim reef
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oh you're making costumes?

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I uhh... I don't read enough clearly

rich mango
hollow gale
#

skyrim keeps crashing

weak sapphire
#

A low-born Dunmer who became the champion of not one, not two, but THREE Daedra, united Morrowind, made peace with the Dwemer, and potentially killed a god.

sleek mountain
wide garnet
gloomy basalt
#

Bethesda

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Hiring for TES VI

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/j

harsh crown
gloomy basalt
#

Also twas a joke

harsh crown
gloomy basalt
sleek mountain
gloomy basalt
#

Ahahhaha

nimble pond
#

Do you think they should continue the "one" final boss for TESVI or should there perhaps be say.. a team of bosses all working together or at least have mutually beneficial goals. Say three? If not that then maybe there are three possible main antagonists for the game, but depending on your actions/choices throughout the main questline, only one of them will be successful in becoming the true villain and your final nemesis.

weak sapphire
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Depends entirely on the story being told.

kindred pumice
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As soon as I'm more financially stable I plan on making a Dagoth Ur costume. More inspired by a mod than the vanilla model but still.

magic tundra
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mask, loincloth, and body paint?

kindred pumice
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Mask and bodypaint/zentai combo yes, loincloth not so much. I'm designing the costume off the Dagoth Ur model from Bob's Diverse Dagoths.

magic tundra
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okay, without loincloth I don'T think I wanna see it...

kindred pumice
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lol it's a skirt thing instead

dim reef
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(get it? cause roman)

wide garnet
nimble pond
kindred pumice
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Shhhhh I am not going to conventions in a loincloth okay, nobody needs to see that

wide garnet
kindred pumice
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Oh I guess I can't link the image here. Well looking up the mod "Divine Dagoths" will give you an idea of what I'll be going for.

nimble pond
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They already got house-building. Probably fort or town building too in the next game. But anyways, I hope they add in survivalist bushcrafting too for temporary housing. I'd like to get involved in that when I know I'm going to be out the cities and towns for a while exploring in the wilderness or dungeon delving. So I can setup my own camp basically anywhere. Though I wouldn't mind one location for a more permanent housing for that type we can expand on. Like if I'm doing a survivalist run, I might want to just use that for housing.

magic tundra
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crafts bush

gloomy basalt
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And we have to convince people to work there

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And have our own smiths and enchanters

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Followers available

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Guards

nimble pond
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Well, I know Todd was already thinking about letting people build their own forts way back in like 2007 based on the released concept notes by him. Something about letting other players visit your builds too.

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And then of course we've gotten the Blades mobile game not too long ago with what it features in that regard

gloomy basalt
#

Let us also start a business chain

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Like meadery or something

magic tundra
#

TES6: Economy Simulator

raw flicker
#

is it possible for a mod to DM me please? i have a question about posting content

nimble pond
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For magic swords, you can have ability to actually swing the blade out the grip itself like a boomerang for targeting further away enemies, which it returns to your sword handle so it's like a hybrid sword-boomerang.

subtle kelp
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Hi, i have a cuestion with ESO. If i buy the gane, i have to buy all the dcl separate or i can buy them together, or they install them by themself? If i have to buy them, how much it cost them?

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Shortly, how it works? 😅

eager remnant
subtle kelp
fleet vine
#

Do u think there will be more voice actors for tesvi vs skyrim?

dim reef
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probably

sleek mountain
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why its matter with more voice actors? hundreds VA for each hundreds NPC are not effective for production cost.

dim reef
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maybe we could get more emotion voice actors...

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i dunno

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i don't really care about voice actors

sleek mountain
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as long its not sounds like theater-like dialogue, i mean c'mon, i also expect elder scrolls is quite mundane.

eager remnant
hidden herald
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In general, Bethesda and ZeniMax are hiring

dim reef
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last time i looked into the bethesda hiring stuff there were no artsy roles in england

magic tundra
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I don't think voice actors are hired but contacted

dim reef
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dunno if the england part matters but i know theres a studio around here somewhere

eager remnant
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I seriously doubt they'd be hiring voice actors for TES VI yet anyway.

magic tundra
#

they don't have lines yet
they don't have much of anything, maybe a vague idea of what the plot will be

dim reef
dim reef
magic tundra
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that was the word I was looking for

nimble pond
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Whatever the years of being in pre-production back in 2018 and now in the designing phase has brought them I guess

frozen maple
#

anyone here who would want TES Vl?

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(need to watch that movie again)

eager remnant
frozen maple
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me too

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but I want that other game too

dim reef
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i don't really care about tes 6. I just wanna get out of limbo

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Skyrim 2: Conceptual Pipedream

orchid thicket
#

TES VI I can't believe is after Starfield. When they do a full reveal for VI I still won't believe it

sleek mountain
#

I want isekai anime elder Scrolls

violet lily
#

there's definitely fanfic for that

wanton violet
#

isekai?

violet lily
#

I've seen fanfic for isekai Elder Scrolls for sure

sleek mountain
flint quail
#

Covers everything from Digimon to Overlord

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Very diverse genre.

hidden herald
#

TBH, we go through multiple worlds all the time, plus there are theories about the Prisoner i.e. the Player being something... else

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||The Elder Scrolls was an Isekai all along if one of those theories was right||

sleek mountain
#

but what if player reincarnated as nazeem. 🙂

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or grelod lol.

dim reef
#

One of my favourite Elder Scrolls Youtube video clips of all time. It involves the M'aiq the Liar from Morrowind as a kind of Doctor Who figure in this - it's also an elegant video delineating the evolution of Elder Scrolls games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMpkZAWczBQ

YouTube
MarKlar Gaming
The Elder Scrolls Evolution - M'aiq's Road to Skyrim

Watch M'aiq leave Elsweyr and travel through space and time to get to Skyrim. A long journey that will continue, but... Whats the next place to visit?? M'aiq doesnt know... Only Go-....Mr. Todd Howards knows.

M'aiq wants you to RATE AND COMMENT!!!

If you want to play Arena or Daggerfall without having to learn how to use DOSBox, download this ...

▶ Play video
dim reef
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Imagine ages slipping on by and seeing places transforming by the century...

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Imagine being the only one to still remember the Empire close to intact somewhere in Mournhold, to remember High Rock pre-Warp, to experience Vvanderfall pre-eruption, to see Cyrodiil pre-deforestation towards the present of being in Skyrim and being one of the few to still remember all that stuff...

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Well, one can see how you can be branded as a liar ;)

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(Funnily enough, this actually also made me understand Doctor Who the show better as well. It makes me feel far more for the Doctor than before)

dim reef
nimble pond
#

The Protagonist-born.

rustic birch
#

Sheogorath supremacy

neat wigeon
dim reef
magic tundra
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He's not a daedric Lord, he's a daedric prince

neat wigeon
#

And the ruler of our hearts

magic tundra
#

My heart is about 0.3 sheogorath big

neat wigeon
#

And smells of cheese.

hidden herald
#

During the Mage's Guild questline in ESO, I ||wanted to go with Uncle Sheo, I feel at home in the Shivering Isles||

nimble pond
#

M'aiq is past that of both the Aedra and the Daedra, even the divines!

hidden herald
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M'aiq might be the godhead of the Elder Scrolls universe

neat wigeon
#

Given his ubiquity and appearances all over the place, I think this would be something awesome to explore.

nimble pond
#

It is also of note that M'aiq is highly fashionable, always ahead of the time, in the designer world

dim reef
#

M’aiq has been told he has powers belonging to the gods. But M’aiq thinks this one thinks too much

dim reef
#

M'aiq is eternal, M'aiq is unshakeable, M'aiq is.

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"And M'aiq saw that the firmament - as he wast flanked by the Void and Mundus - were duly touched by His feline ruach. He saith, "Nirn." as He belched upon speaking. That was its name. And the Lord M'aiq saw that it was good." The Book of M'aiq 1:1

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"He saw that His burp hath become a force and He summoned forth the Aedra and Daedra in another stupendous eructation." M'aiq 1:2

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"And these hosts called forth the Dragons in a celestial symphony of eructation. Out of the First Aedra's mouth sprang forth Akatosh and he spat out forth fire which created Time. And the Lord M'aiq saw that it was good." M'aiq 1:3

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M'aiq is the Creator, confirmed

slender patio
#

I mean it makes sense maiq has been in every game through every cataclysm thats happened. So he's at the minimum immortal if not invincible

magic tundra
#

Is it the same M'aiq, though?

#

You know that M'aiq's father was also called M'aiq?

neat wigeon
flint quail
hidden herald
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Since M'aiq is M'aiq, if M'aiq decides something is so or at least thinks it is so, then it is so

flint quail
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But Mai'q knows Mai'q is a liar.

dim reef
#

When does a tree know it's falling?

wide garnet
flint quail
ancient flume
#

Is the new ES game using the exact same engine as Skyrim?
Or is it modified/new version?

orchid thicket
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If you mean TES VI, It'll be Creation Engine 2 which is a upgraded Skyrim and Fallout 4 Creation Engine

magic tundra
#

what if it'll use Creation Engine 3?

orchid thicket
#

I'd guess it'd depend if the engine needs more work for VI

prime marlin
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“hey we have something better lets use something older and less updated”

ancient flume
prime marlin
#

fallout 4 may have used creation but its also very different

gloomy basalt
#

I hope TES VI has actual equipment slots

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That are visable

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Also please for the love of God let us sort our inventories

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And have arrows get their own catagory

prime marlin
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whay do you mean equipment slots

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that seems very constricting to modding

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and also actual used slots in a bethesda game arent consistent as they use them to show or hide body parts

gloomy basalt
prime marlin
#

skyrim has equipment slots

gloomy basalt
#

Yes

prime marlin
#

but not visually

gloomy basalt
#

Yeah

prime marlin
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because there is 30 something of them

gloomy basalt
#

I just want them to be Visable in some way

prime marlin
#

several are used for visual effects

gloomy basalt
#

I mean show the generally usable ones

prime marlin
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ok but if you make it so you can only equip to those slots its constrictive

gloomy basalt
#

How?

prime marlin
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because with the existing system if your insane you can set it up to equip a seperate item to every possible slot

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with a system with hard slots to euip things like say diablo you can no longer do that

gloomy basalt
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Why not?

prime marlin
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because you have specific slots thwt things equip

gloomy basalt
#

I'm not suggesting hard slots, I'm suggesting the slots be Visable somehow

prime marlin
#

theyre visible on you

gloomy basalt
#

The one's that currently exist

prime marlin
#

are you saying like fallout 4s?

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which only works to an extent

gloomy basalt
#

What does FO4's look like

prime marlin
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it has a simple paperdoll of the vault boy which has basic representstions of generic armor or clothes applied over him to show whats equiped where

gloomy basalt
#

Oh

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Well yeah like that

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I just wanna be able to see what slots are taken up 😭

prime marlin
#

in skyrim this wasnt neccesary as only secondary slots ever got taken up

gloomy basalt
#

Huh

prime marlin
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there is 3 head slots

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skyrim doesnt alwYs use all 3

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but they all count as being on the head

gloomy basalt
#

Huh

prime marlin
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hair head face

gloomy basalt
#

That seems overly complex

prime marlin
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no its not

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its why you can wear a circlet and it doesnt make your hair dissapear

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but wearing a hood does

gloomy basalt
#

Ahhh

prime marlin
#

fallout 4 has items that take up different parts of the head slots

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face eyes and head

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but those all show up on the paper doll because those have various items that can take those slots seperately

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you can wear a hat glasses and a facemask all at once in fallout 4

gloomy basalt
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Hmm

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That's be cool for TES VI

prime marlin
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but some items take up both face slots

eager remnant
# gloomy basalt That are visable

Tyropop, are you saying you want all weapons to be visible on our characters when they are equipped? If you are, then I agree with you. I annoys me to see staves "disappear" when they are sheathed.

gloomy basalt
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For example, I always dual wield

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Yet there's only 1 sheath ever

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And that's IF it shows up

eager remnant
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Yes, that's another one that annoys me.

gloomy basalt
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And it's be cool if we could set weapons that aren't equipped to be visable

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I wanna look like I have 2 staves, a bow, arrows, 2 single handed weapons, a two handed weapon, and a shield

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Yes that's overkill

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No I don't think it'll happen

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But it'd be super cool

sleek mountain
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is that engine limitation some equipment slot have to be hidden?

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or elder scrolls is meant to be played on first person as equipment visual slot doesnt matter lol

weak sapphire
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It's not an engine limitation, it's a design choice

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You COULD do it, but rigging it takes time and effort, which is sometimes better spent elsewhere

gloomy basalt
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Yeah, but it'd be so cool

weak sapphire
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Some, sure. Personally, i think overloading characters with weapons makes them look absurd

hidden herald
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Then again, if you're a pincushion of arrows and not taking any damage, it would look pretty intimidating

gloomy basalt
weak sapphire
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And i'm fine with that. So long as that option doesn't confer a mechanical advantage

prime marlin
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skyrim actually has a function to display favorited gear on you

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bDisablegearedup=1 change it to 0

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its just a bit buggy

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mostly cosmetically

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you can have 1 sword 1 dagger 1 waraxe 1 mace 1 two hander and a bow

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equipping things without sheathing them though… causes ghe weapons to not put away correctly

eternal tapir
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What if Elder Scrolls 6 was pushed back to 2028

sleek mountain
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then i expected its cover all tamriel 🙂

cinder idol
sleek mountain
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but i want 4th Era setting 😄

short swallow
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What if Elder scroll 6 was canceled and never happened?

sleek mountain
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jump on series to elder scrolls 69 obviously

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😏

eternal tapir
cinder idol
hidden herald
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Then again, do we need space flight when we have portals that can travel to other worlds/planets?

sleek mountain
eager remnant
magic tundra
gray oyster
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Please let there be a port of Skyrim (or at least Oblivion) for mobile platforms. Modern arm64 processors are worth it. Please🥺 🥺 🥺

It would be the best New Year surprise

sleek mountain
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or at least new questline for blades? 😄

gray oyster
sleek mountain
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well not open in sense regular elder scrolls, at least people free to take any available quests.

gloomy basalt
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Imagine mobile oblivion

gray oyster
gloomy basalt
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Oblivion is beautiful

sleek mountain
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well psp version can be ported as mobile lol

prime marlin
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psp version was never released

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also psp version wasnt a port of oblivion

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r4R_qw26fo

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Vintage phones archive
The Elder Scrolls Oblivion (Mobile) full longplay, the Java game fo...

Full longplay of one of the lesser known games in the Elder Scrolls series.
It is by far the worst one, almost unplayable. There is no sound, after a few steps the hero gets stuck and the only way to get him moving again is opening and closing the inventory.
This is the official release. There is a patched version that fixes this glitch but I ...

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also there was a… mobile oblivion that existed

past steeple
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TES wont be complete until the oblivion mobile remaster hits the stores

gray oyster
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I've successfully played Morrowind (only 30 minutes or so) on Android with admirable FPS using third-party emulators... It wasn't very convenient, but it was and is possible technically, i believe there will be an official port...

magic tundra
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I heavily doubt it
also, Oblivion Mobile is not a mobile port of TES4, it's its own game with its own mechanics, and just a similar (albeit very abridged) story

prime marlin
gray oyster
prime marlin
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why not just… use openmw

gray oyster
steep yew
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Hey guys, whenever i try and scroll in skyrim it jumps right to the bottom or the top. Can someone help me fix it???

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For PC

gray oyster
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Do you play Skyrim in Windowed mode or not? Try using different one.

steep yew
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Nah i've tried it in fullscreen only

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ill try it now

gray oyster
steep yew
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Tried it in windowed mode and still had the same issue

gray oyster
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sorry, don't know then.

steep yew
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all good, thanks anyway

obtuse spire
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Hi I’m new can someone tell me why I can’t log into the Skyrim creation club

short swallow
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it is being investigated

obtuse spire
short swallow
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I guess a few hours maybe a day at most

obtuse spire
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Ok

violet lily
spring spoke
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I was playing Oblivion, got hit by a Bandit's Iron Warhammer, and got a notification that my Intelligence was being drained. Which got me wondering, in-universe, how do you think that feels?

wanton violet
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painful i'd bet

eager remnant
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Our characters will probably be too stupid to notice the difference. 😁

past steeple
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sudden headache

robust timber
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best mode for roleplay?

magic tundra
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"mode"?

pliant light
magic tundra
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you think they'll get it done in one year?
that'll be a very rushed game then... no, thanks

vernal garden
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Anyone else cant play console skyrim due to having 1 frame per minute ?

nimble pond
nimble pond
cinder idol
glossy plume
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Hey guys I was playing the quest temple of miraak and when I pick up the black book my game crashes every time. Is there any solution available?

shadow sandal
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Merry Christmas everyone and have an Happy New Year's!!!

hidden herald
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Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and Happy New Life Festival to all, and have a Happy New Year's! 🙂

ivory fulcrum
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Hey guys and gals, I had an idea... my friends told me that it was absolutely crazy and suicidal to do in Skyrim Special Edition for the PS4. Those words were all it took to convince me that I had to do it.

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I plan on doing a shield only build in Skyrim

warm spade
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Focusing on shield bash? I'm not sure if that 5x damage skill would really do much but I haven't tried it. You'd have to play on a pretty low difficulty and focus solely on stamina and health

ivory fulcrum
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I plan on using the Auriel's Shield, healing spells, telekinesis, detect dead, and detect life. Sadly that means that I have to cheat in order to get the shield, telekinesis, and two detect spells. But other than that I don't plan on using any other weapon. Not even against the dragons.

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I don't play Skyrim on any difficulty other than Legendary with the Curse Mod active.

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I know I'm insane... but that's nothing new lol.

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I will have a few mods active but the only cheat mod will be the Saints and Seducers Cheat room for obtaining the 3 spells and sheild

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I mean shield

compact latch
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the spirit of the dark souls dual-shielders shall guide you

ivory fulcrum
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Lol I will probably need the guiding

ivory fulcrum
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Though I don't know what to name the character. I have a Imperial- For Combat and Magic skills. The character is a male like myself. Unlike myself he is muscular.

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If no one has any suggestions then I'll just go with the Latin word for shield, "Clypeus"

eager remnant
# ivory fulcrum Hey guys and gals, I had an idea... my friends told me that it was absolutely cr...

Here are a couple of videos you might be interested in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMhjmxhx7vA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmqzUCvo0oc

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Fevvy
Skyrim: How to Make an OP SHIELD BASH Build...

In this video we make an Overpowered Shield only build on Legendary Difficulty. Played on Skyrim the Special Edition, no mods were installed during the playthrough and the build was played entirely on Legendary Difficulty.

Final Stats: Level 47

Magicka 100| Health 380 | Stamina 280 | All before buffs from equipment or standing stones. Focus p...

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Senza
Can You Beat Skyrim Using ONLY Shield Bash

The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim Has been out for a while now, but I don't think I have seen someone attempt to take on this challenge. In Skyrim there are multiple ways to beat the game, but today we will attempt to beat it using only Shield Bash. I know that sounds crazy, but I believe it is and can be possible. This is my first video on Skyrim, and ...

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Sorry if this is in the wrong place!

I’ve put hundreds upon hundreds of hours into Skyrim and I want to try elder scrolls online, is there a good place to go to learn the basics and understand the game better?

Edit: someone please @ me because I’m going to bed, thanks!

sleek mountain
mental cape
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Why is the farm for the farming cc right next to a imperial camp? Wut

magic tundra
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why do the imperials camp next to your farm?

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Why are the imperial camping anyway, did you had whiterun over to the stormcloaks?

mental cape
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Yes

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Id just set the leader of that camp to unessential and kill him but according to the kill all generals mod its the one general thats actually needed for a quest

lavish hearth
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Friendly weekly reminder to anyone in Bethesda who sees this, please add native controller and achievement support to steam for Oblivion and fallout 3.

prime marlin
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youd lose script extender for oblivion in the process

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for a while

violet lily
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Continuing my Morrowind adventures live on Twitch! Questing out of Sadrith Mora Mage's Guild and celebrating making Affiliate! 😁 https://twitch.tv/fenharellan13

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Wow...Guild Wars 2 ost would have fit a loy better with ESO than ESO ost.

fickle snow
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Random question for anyone that sees this. What is your favorite Elder Scrolls game (including ESO) and why?

eager remnant
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These days my favorite Elder Scrolls game is Skyrim. But Morrowind is a very close second.

Why do I like Skyrim the best? First, I like the game world. I knew this was a game world I would soon fall in love with the minute I stepped out of Helgen for the first time. I think the look of armor, clothing, faces, hair, weapons, ect, is the nicest in the series so far. I still like Morrowind's architecture the best, but Skyrim is a close second.

Second, the writing. I think that - with the possible exception of Morrowind's main quest - Skyrim boasts the best writing in the series. Dialogue, characterization, plot, themes, I think all of it is a vast improvement over the earlier games. My only criticism of the writing is that the guild questlines are too short.

Third, the game mechanics. I love the classless character advancement approach taken by Skyrim. I love many of the new features like the perk system, dual-wielding, runes, secondary effects attached to elemental damage, smithing, shouts, standing stones, random world interactions, and other features. About the only thing I would bring back from earlier games, gameplay-wise, is spellcrafting and (a very heavily-modified version of) the previous games' eight attributes.

weak sapphire
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Ok, here's a thing i know is going to be controvercial... I've been playing a lot of FF14 lately, and i gottasay... I absolutely adore crafting.

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You cou;dn't carry it over as-is, but i think taking inspiration and building it out to be something ofa mini-game in it's own right could be spectacular, if done right

hidden herald
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More likely to take inspiration from ESO

weak sapphire
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I am aware, but honestly... ESO's crafting is vastly inferior

wanton violet
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i find it better than wow at least, though never cared about crafting in swtor to judge it and never touched ff14 to judge them either. still dont stop me from wasting all my gold to learn exotic furniture plan in eso^^

neat wigeon
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For laymen, how does FF14 work?

torpid vale
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Question....how does one play as an Imperial?

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Looks like I need to buy something, but for the life of me I'm not sure exactly what.

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Imperial upgrade...gotcha.

magic tundra
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depends heavily on the game...

short swallow
short swallow
magic tundra
short swallow
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Yea.. I seen your other response

fickle snow
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I'm just going to say, this server needs ToddBot

cinder idol
fickle snow
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That makes sense.

short swallow
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Is Todd related memes even acceptable on this server? I would figure it be a hard no

fickle snow
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Still sad though.

cinder idol
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True.

jaunty plume
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Lfg on PlayStation. Have done all the quests in base game and have a few areas where I need help defeating group bosses. Thanks

sleek mountain
jaunty plume
prime marlin
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todd bot is the single most annoying bot i ever dealt with

torpid vale
cinder idol
night crystal
torpid vale
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Question....anyone know if the latest MacOS has any problem running ESO?

gray oyster
torpid vale
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Willdo thanks.

daring creek
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And here it is... the full reveal of a soon-to-come work: The Elder Scrolls: Bound Fate, written by me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbxOtbpI3-s

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The Elder Scrolls: Bound Fate Teaser | Book

The Last Dragonborn has defeated Alduin and ended countless other threats. However, their work is far from over. War still rages across all of Hammerfell, where the reformed Dominion vies for control of the final region of Tamriel left to conquer. The time has come for this final threat to be eradicated... but can the Dovahkiin do it alone? Just...

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vagrant seal
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Does anyone know how to install the patch for skyrim from scratch? my game crashes in two places and I read that a patch would fix it but i dont know how

gray oyster
weak sapphire
# neat wigeon For laymen, how does FF14 work?

Sorry, that was entirely my bad, i should have gone into more detail. It's basically a mini-game on top of a more recognizable crafting system.

When you craft something for the first tme, it consumes the resources, but requires you 'Manually' make the item. The names are wonky, likely due to translation issues, but you have actions such as Synthesis; increases progress towards finishing said item and Tough; increases quality of said item.

Once you've made an item once, you can mass produce them without having to go through the mini game, but if you want to optimise your crafting to create high quality items, you can repeat the in-depth process for more manual control.

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On it's own, its a far more engaging system than any other crafting model i've played with... But combined with something like Fallout 4's modular crafting, it could create something really spectacular.

neat wigeon
weak sapphire
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Quite different. To go into more detail, when you're doing manual crafting you get an interface which tracks 4 basic stats. Progress, Quality, Durability and Condition.

In order to complete an item, you need to reach 100% Progress.

Durability is a restriction on the number of actions you can take. Most items have 80 Durability, with each action taking 10, meaning at base (before abilities) you have 8 actions to complete your item before it's ruined.

Quality is the likelyhood of your item coming out as High Quality, with increased value and stats.

Condition is a random modifier which servers as a trigger for other abilities.

nimble pond
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The percentage rate with crafting is what bothers me. Had that in another mmorpg I played and the % failed often. Gives me rng ptsd 🤒

weak sapphire
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Your basic Synthesis action takes 10 Durability, and increases Progress by a rate dependent on your Craftsmanship Skill. the higher the level of the item and materials, the more it's progress value, so there's a functional limit on your ability to craft high level items at low levels.

Your basic Touch Action also takes 10 Durability, and increases the Quality bar, making it more likely to result in a High Quality Item.

Added to this, you have abilities which can restore durability, or be chained together for greater effect (such as the Touch Actions) at the cost of Crafting Points, as well as abilities which can restore CP when the Condition is Good or better. So it becomes a sort of puzzle game to getthe best item possible.

weak sapphire
nimble pond
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Yea it would be. To get to 100% became an overly tedious chore

weak sapphire
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It offsets it a bit by also having high quality materials which give a bonus, uo to 50%. So, for instance, if something requires 4 Steel ingots, and you use 4 HQ Steel, you start the process at 50% quality. Making it much easier to get to 100%

nimble pond
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Some are real greedy though and slap another % chance on top of that 100% succes so you still may not get what you wanted

weak sapphire
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Oh, yeah. I'm not one for random percentage systems. If something gives you a value, it had better be that value, no background hidden modifier percentages

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Part of the reason i absolutely hate how Armour works in most RPGs

frozen maple
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whats up my Pyandonean friends

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I cant wait to have some fun tomorrow when its finally time to go home

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and visit my sea elf friends

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sea...mer?

weak sapphire
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Sink the whole island

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The seas belong to the Sload!

frozen maple
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we're sailing the hobbits to Isengard!

eager remnant
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Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, an MMO, used to have a mini-game crafting system. My wife loved it. She said it was the best crafting system she'd ever played (unfortunately, Sony shut the game down a few years ago). Here's a very simplified version of its crafting system:

You gathered your materials together (buy purchasing them or harvesting them yourself), go to a crafting station, place these items along with any required utilities and catalysts on your crafting table and begin the mini-game. You have a timer and action points, both based on character skill. During crafting complications may occur. If it does, the player hits one of several buttons that will apply a remedy to make that complication disappear before they run out of action points. This is hard in the beginning and almost always results in a low-quality version of the item. But it all becomes easier as your character progresses in skill (and which results in higher-quality items more regularly).

Vanguard had three continents to begin the game on, based on the player's choice of race. Each continent had its own style of weapons and armor. You start out crafting in the style of your character's continent. To learn the style of a different continent, you had to travel to that continent and do a series of quests for the trainers there before they would teach you new recipes. This was not always easy. Some races hated each other and were kill-on-sight to your race. If a trainer was located in a city that hated your character's race you would first have to do a series of quests to gain favor with that city before you could talk to the trainer. Getting all of the crafting recipes form all three continents was virtually a main quest all by itself.

Here is a short little video showing a bit of the crafting process in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg5f-IXSmCs

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Lets All Game
Vanguard: Saga of Heroes - Crafting and Harvesting

An introduction to harvesting and crafting in Vanguard: Saga of Heroes. Play the Isle of Dawn free at http://www.vanguardsoh.com

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meanwhile me just not bothering and buying mats in auction house then slap craft button or just buy the item directly in auction house if i happen to not want to bother with the chore of leveling a crafting profession^^'

eternal tapir
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A lot of people will get mad over this observation, please stand by. I swear, I just realized this

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Uncomfortable Elder Scrolls Observation:
The visual and animation progression from Morrowind onward kinda looks like those offshore bargain bin CG movie series that gradually improves over time in fidelity since their writing team starting putting effort into the films and bringing in more money to the studio.

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Braces for hate

short swallow
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Well to be fair Skyrim and Oblivion wern't known for their graphics

eternal tapir
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Castle Quest: Land of the Dark Elves
Castle Quest: Gates of Oblivion
Castle Quest: Dragons Rising

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lol

short swallow
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Wait you are talking about the graphics right?

eternal tapir
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Yeah, how the animations and visuals changed from morrowind to skyrim

short swallow
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I mean Fallout 4 I would say is the best game BGS made Graphically, a lot of the character's Textures and appearances in the game were on par with other potpular games

wanton violet
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only played skyrim and eso personally (and watched friend play morrowind) from what i have seen, eso have way better graphic. es6 can't do worse imo

eternal tapir
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VaultPocalpyse: The Commonwealth

wanton violet
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like how fallout jumped from average graphic in 3 to really good in 4, i expect the same for next elder scroll compared to skyrim

eternal tapir
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Fallout 3 has really aged the worse out of every Bethesda game

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Even morrowind is more graphically watchable than... that

short swallow
eternal tapir
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Kinda like how Halo Infinite's discover hope trailer had noticable downgrades in the final product

sleek mountain
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Graphic and animation style kinda subjective eh.

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I mean i prefer nice looking graphic and flashy animation stay my fave jrpg games.

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I play elder scrolls for FREEDOM

weak sapphire
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That... was way more pertinent to Skyrim than i intended it to be

frozen maple
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PYANODEA sea elves!!!

slate leaf
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Sea Elves confirmed

frozen maple
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hurr durr its good to be a mer mer in the sea in the sea where we always be

frozen maple
slate leaf
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I legit thought this was a TESVII teaser until I saw it was ESO

frozen maple
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do what you want cause a Pyandonean is free YOU ARE A SEA ELF

hidden herald
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It's not Pyandonea, since the armor from the person on land is definitely Bretonic

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The new year sale for ESO on Steam ends in about half an hour where I am (US East Coast), in case anyone plans to join ESO now. https://store.steampowered.com/app/306130/The_Elder_Scrolls_Online/

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# frozen maple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2e8SCyb2mc

You know what's interesting, popular MMOs like WoW and Final Fantasy 14 have recently focused on cosmic-tier high stakes questlines. In comparison, this looks refreshing because ESO appears to be doing the complete opposite by having this expansion focus on simple political intrigue.

twin sentinel
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it's about time, I'm happy they got the message

green nexus
frozen maple
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that emoji

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well im actually not convinced about Pyandonea

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could be High Isles as well

magic tundra
simple iris
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From what I can see, based on the image of the video, at the 0:01 mark to be exact. The landscape of that map appears to be Hammerfell with High Rock at the top right corner of the video. Given that the ships are heading west, by my estimate they're probably heading towards one of the islands such as Herne, Cespar, The Chain, Vandor, or the Sestres. Mind you these islands are about the same size as Stros M'kai by estimate.

I would say they may also be going to Yokuda, but given the timeline with the entire land sinking into the sea by the First Era with ESO taking place in the Second Era, it's unlikely. Although there is a possibility that the landmass south of Yokuda is still there in the ocean body called the Sea of Pearls with such locations as Zamsar, Nalonga, Asul Ydur, Suol Ydur, and Ravan.

magic tundra
simple iris
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Yeah, that's the map. So if I'm correct, they're porting off around the south western part of Hammerfell, which could either be from Stros M'kai or some other sea dock city such as Gilane. I would also say Hews Bane but unless they went around the landmass at Abah's Landing or managed to retake Thrall Cove or the No Shira Citadel, the first two ports are the more likely.

With that said, based on this here map and what I could tell with that cinematic trailer, we're looking at the possibility of going to the islands at the Abecean Sea, or head out even further and go to the land masses at the Sea of Pearls.

nimble pond
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Looks like deja vu

violet lily
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More Morrowind tonight, hopefully without the power issue from yesterday. Last I recall, I was going to grind some Destruction skill... https://twitch.tv/fenharellan13

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hidden herald
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Hmm, the theorycrafting for the next chapter sound amazing, lots of islands that could work out

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From The Doors of Oblivion:

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Some exist, but cannot be entered safely. The whirlpool in the Abecean called the Maelstrom of Bal can make ships disappear, and it may be a portal into Oblivion, but the trauma of riding its waters would surely slay any who tried.

wanton violet
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similar to the fleet who raided the sload and got stuck in a maelstrom and ended in coldharbor?

hidden herald
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Apparently that relates back to the All Flags Navy, yes 😛

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While the chapter/storyline likely won't involve a world-ending threat, there are likely still threats, historical or otherwise, that people need to deal with as they fight over whatever the macguffins, land/ocean, etc?

sleek mountain
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it's pirate time! hunting some treasure, sail the ship, duel in the boat

wanton violet
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the three ship, one for each alliance seemed to team up and sail toward the knight's island. wonder what bad guy that knight represent to warrant faction uniting? 🤔

sleek mountain
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war need funding, it's feel interesting if they on race to seek some pirate treasure

wanton violet
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i'm ebouheart pact and i understand why they picked a nord ship, but man it look pathetic compared to the other 2 warships hey guys, wait for me, my canoe can't go that fast ^^'

nimble pond
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Honestly it looks like War of the Isle.

nimble pond
nimble pond
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Ending part kinda reminds of that whole Green Lady Finoriell drama with that mysterious Maromer warrior: "As she lay dying atop the highest sea-tower, the Sea Elves' greatest warrior came to claim her head as a trophy."

nimble pond
frozen bane
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Anyone generous enough to turn me into a werewolf? Fairly new to the game with no gold or much to offer other than my thanks.

violet lily
wanton violet
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think you can't talk in the official eso server

nimble pond
wanton violet
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unless there some hidden hint, do we even know which direction they where sailing? lot of island/small continent all around tamriel,no?

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so much possibility depending which cardinal direction they picked

nimble pond
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With eso, it's not always exactly accurate.. Try to focus on the bigger picture

wanton violet
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since dlc, i'm counting biggest landmass out by principle (atmora and that continent with taesci at least) though i may be totally wrong who know

nimble pond
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But anyway the majority believe it to be some island west of HF/ HR. As you can see what I wrote above, I feel it's Pyandonea.

wanton violet
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though the maomer island could work, from what little i know it a moderate sized archipelago, should work for it, and maomer npc are everywhere already in eso

nimble pond
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And the mysterious warrior is so blank on information that it's completely open to how they want to write it

wanton violet
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and at bare minimum, the dominion (and with some stretch the ebonhearth pact) could have a motivation to sail south to stop them raiding since it affect both?

nimble pond
wanton violet
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isnt that something that happen way later in timeline or i'm misremembering?

nimble pond
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I think it ended on 3rd era, but doesn't eso have a range anyway with its dlc?

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It's a spin off game anyway

wanton violet
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i just know eso is century earlier than any other game

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we're the prequel ^^

nimble pond
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Not to mention the maromer were a threat to tamriel as well, not just summerset. Orgnu was making dealings with the wolf queen after they took over summerset, they would conquer tamriel next and she would be empress. Oh and they slept together 👀

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And you see the three banners on the ships. EB painting the sails red instead lol

wanton violet
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the little drakkar yes. my mind was like why we got a canoe when the other got a gallion or close to one? then brain woke up and whispered viking,nord but still

nimble pond
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Lol

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It flipped so hard 😂

wanton violet
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all my character are ebonheart because argonian, but that one time, i prefer what breton/elves can field >.>

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also was like in beginning hey guys, wait for me, i dont have three mast worth of sail to zoom like you all 🤣

nimble pond
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😂

boreal wyvern
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If we’re going to Pyodonea then we better be getting new races. >: (

wide garnet
weak sapphire
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It is my deepest fear that any trip to Pyodonea results in just another generic Summerset style

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Well, no... a revival of fascism and WWIII are my deepest fear, but in the context of TES, the recycling of bland and uninspiring visual motifs ranks pretty high up there.

nimble pond
# weak sapphire It is my deepest fear that any trip to Pyodonea results in just another generic ...

You said the same about Hammerfell and Akavir if I recall 😋
But it's an MMO, so I'm honestly not expecting much from a spin-off with it's main focus being on the online aspect of it. So if they add some sort of naval pvp with that TES theme backing, that'd be kinda cool. Though even that I wouldn't expect it to be as nice as an actual naval pvp game.
But really anytime they step out of Tamriel it'll catch my interest. So if it is Pyandonea, that gives me hope we'll eventually explore besides Tamriel, Tamrielic territories, or planes of Oblivion, lol.

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Fair enough. I have a great many fears when it comes to TES... Bland generic repition of tired tropes form the basis of many of them

nimble pond
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You'll find a trope here and there in most creative work. But for the most part Nirn is a pretty unique world. I suspect they'll do well with the next TES with lots of tech to play with.

weak sapphire
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I've been disappointed by BGS's inspiration for the last 2 games. Zenimax Online has generally done better, buuuut... They dropped the ball with both the Altmer and Bosmer

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Who are both about as uninspiring and generic as you can get

nimble pond
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It's a work in progress, I think BGS has learned a lot over the years in their new territory explorations

weak sapphire
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Let's hope it's the right lessons

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Don't want them to be like Blizzard, and take all the wrong lessons

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Learning means nothing unless you learn right.

nimble pond
weak sapphire
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They did really well with the Argonians, Bretons, Dunmer, Redguard and even the Imperials and Nords though. And the Khajiit... MmmMMM

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But then... The Altmer and Bosmer are, well... Bog standard boring ass High Elves and Wood Elves.

nimble pond
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Hmm, not sure why they did it that way then? But if they did well with some races then it's a plus as that's not commonly done well in MMO's. Then again it is helpful having a rich world like TES to build on in that matter.

nimble pond
# weak sapphire Learning means nothing unless you learn right.

I don't know if there is a right or wrong when most is perspective or the majority wins. Different things work for different people. But if it only pleases a small crowd when you were aiming for a wider crowd, then yeah it's probably a failure in that aspect.

weak sapphire
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True, but there's also the issue of... People often don't actually know what they like until exposed to something. You never know, if you don't try

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Morrowind is a great example of this. It's far from your normal Fantasy setting, and it's one of the most beloved in gaming now

nimble pond
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Well that's just simply people being stuck in their own little bubbles. You don't have to like or agree with something, but at least give it the respect to hear it out, you'll still learn something from those kind of interactions.

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Yes, Morrowind has been highly praised. I think some typically still favor it over the more recently-popular Skyrim

weak sapphire
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Mechanically it's an absolute mess. But the world building legitimately makes you want to explore and learn more

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And it rewards you for doing so. Compare that to Oblivion, where everything in the world is surface level and there's no cultural or historical depth. Even the scattered rederences to Alessia are just that. References. There's nothing more to them

nimble pond
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Yes, I'd love to see all of Nirn and beyond in that franchise universe, but I know it takes time

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And feeling that sense of self reward in a game is great to have too, in even the smallest tidbits and not like just major quests. If game done well, you'll typically find that

weak sapphire
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It's more thangoing beyond Nirn. For instance, each and every Saint in Morrowind has a backstory covered somewhere in the game. It creates a history and depth of setting that rewards the player for delving into it.

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Oblivion... Lacks all of that. it is the barest sort of worldbuilding, where nothing really has any story or development or identity.

nimble pond
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What I mean is it's a rich world and with each new bit it grows the hunger of wanting to see more of it. Like a frenzy 🤪

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And Skyrim was, unfortunately, only just barely above the barrel-scrapings that was Oblivion