fallout-general-chat

[quaint zealot]

They just reprogrammed a synth.... (The New England Enclave still stands)

[fallow panther]

possible. i wonder if he has any VA lines when around the enclave content. maybe not since it was added later.

[quaint zealot]

He hasn't

[steep sluice]

Enclave content is a bit weak

[quaint zealot]

Hellfire power armor is gold.
MK2 power armor is OP

[steep sluice]

I was more interested in the Incinerator

I gave the hellfire PA to Curie

[quaint zealot]

I was more interested in project HERMES power armor

[steep sluice]

Cant remember what that is

[quaint zealot]

French medic with a power armor??? Bruuh

[quaint zealot]

It's a very powerful prototype of power armor that has schematics buried inside Navarro

[fallow panther]

i kinda wish power armor didn't sprawl so hard. I'd have been fine with newer & older variants. I think its a bit corny now that it's like a face for skins etc. I guess X01 is fine, there was some logic there

[quaint zealot]

I prefer Hellcat.

[steep sluice]

I gave my harem PA, Curie has Raider using the Incinerator weapon, Curie has Hellfire PA with a Tesla Rifle from Automatron and Piper has T45 using the Deliverer Pistol lol

[steep sluice]

Aaah

[fallow panther]

I won't argue that, it looks good and performs well. it's just a bit ... idk it doesn't feel right to me for some reason. I've played mech games, plenty of that sorta thing if want it. just my opinions here though, i know people feel otherwise.

[steep sluice]

I like Vulcan

But my favourite in F4 is the Horse PA

[fallow panther]

i rocked a unskinned T-45 set in F4 for most of my hours. during my PA playthrough that is. so much more freeing to go without, imo.

[quaint zealot]

The Enclave uses the colossus XV power armor too.

(is from a new Vegas mod) but I think that is a military secret

[steep sluice]

What I truly love from F4 is how they made Power Armor feel like a walking tank

[quaint zealot]

Fusion cores.....

How to craft fusion cores with industry??? I have all dlcs

[steep sluice]

I stumble on so many of them even in the early game lol, currently I have 34 xD

[quaint zealot]

A fusion core costs around 2000 caps right??

It's not cheap

[steep sluice]

Before I put perks into the trader perk thing they costed me 500 caps each from Cricket

Or whatever her name was

[quaint zealot]

Ok

[steep sluice]

Now they cost about 200-300

But I have around 19k caps so I dont have to worry about prices for awhile

[spare cape]

whts the best fallout to start with???

[analog vine]

Couple different answers: if you can stand older systems, 3 and then New Vegas would be my pick. If you want something more modern, 4

3 and New Vegas are a little stiff feeling if you're playing vanilla, but both are really good in different ways

[next hound]

If you can stand the different style of gameplay, Fallout 1 and 2. It is 100% worth it. The classics are the absolute best of Fallout and an incredible intro to the franchise.

If you can't handle the gameplay of the classics, New Vegas. It's part of the west coast trilogy of 1 and 2 and it's just like them but 3D. It's considered the best game in the franchise by most players due to it's wide variety of RPG gameplay.

But i HIGHLY recommend playing 1 and 2 first bc you'll under the many references and parts of the story that come from those games in NV.

[spare cape]

im sorry but i cant fallout 1 n 2 😢

[steep sluice]

New Vegas, 3, 1 and 2 then 4

[next hound]

That's completely understandable. I'm guessing you don't own a PC which is okay! I'd play New Vegas first then.

[spare cape]

no im on pc actually

[next hound]

Oh I'm sorry

[spare cape]

got a laptop recently pretty sure i can run most of the games

[next hound]

Well Fallout 1 and 2 is on Steam

[spare cape]

is it that good ???

the only time before this was mgs 1 which was old but i liked it

[steep sluice]

Fallout 1 and 2 are... tricky but worth the struggle

[next hound]

Yes. Trust me as a person who had to learn the mechanics to the type of game it is, it's worth it. Those games are really that good

Tbh it's really fun once you learn it

[spare cape]

1997 n 1998 crazy

only game tht i played tht old was half-life 1

thing is tht was 3D

[next hound]

Yeah it's not 3d lol its very similar to other RPG games back then.

Well if you ever get started on it, i can recommend a starter build to make your playthrough easier. It has perks and attributes like the modern games, but the layout at the start can be confusing. The old games are a challenge and can be unforgiving

[steep sluice]

Unofficial patch for F2 is unforgiving

Makes the early game much more tuff

[next hound]

Never patched it but hey, who doesn't like a challenge?

[spare cape]

i got fallout 3 on epic games free i think few years back

and i have fallout new vegas on steam

[next hound]

Sounds great!

[quaint zealot]

Good morning

[steep sluice]

It runs best on steam I find

Also modding

[spare cape]

Can i start with new vegas?

[steep sluice]

It's the best one so yea

[potent flume]

The games all relate, but also are self-contained story arcs. I didn't start playing until 4.

[tribal rampart]

You can, but 3 has the best atmosphere.

[steep sluice]

Hard to argue with that, at least on the modern games

[maiden cobalt]

This is no game human! You lose! You die!

[thin granite]

Trying to get my wife to play one of the games cause she wants to learn more about the lore which game would yall recommend to start with 🤔

[steep sluice]

New Vegas

Or 3 then New Vegas

[steady bison]

Google says F76 was the first after the bombs

[uneven ingot]

Fallout 4 is the best modern introduction the series. After that I’d move to either NV or 76 depending on if they like the story/world or gameplay more

76 has a great atmosphere but the majority of its story doesn’t connect to anything. Fun gameplay and great community though

NV has the most interesting and dynamic story imo, but the gameplay is dated and clunky compared to the newer games

And NV is relevant to S2 of the TV show if they’re a fan of that

[hardy pendant]

I have the sunset sarsaparilla root beer

[next hound]

Aside from a few small references, 3 and NV do not relate

West Coast Trilogy: Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Fallout New Vegas

East Coast Trilogy: Fallout 3, Fallout 4, Fallout 76

[uneven ingot]

I wouldn’t even call 76 part of that trilogy. Its story is pretty separated from the other east coast games. It’s more of a standalone prequel title

[mild rose]

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[potent flume]

Well if you're going to say that, you might as well say it for the whole franchise.

There's over arcing themes and plot lines, but they're still self contained.

[next hound]

Not really. Fallout 3 and NV are on completely different coasts with completely different factions and antagonists. 1-NV directly connect and correlate with each other because it’s all around the same area with the same people. Although Fallout 3 and 4 aren’t as close, they also have the same thing going on.

There’s a reason why many people treat is as different stories of the two trilogies.

[next hound]

It’s still in east coast so that’s why I included it but I understand what you mean!

[steep sluice]

This

[twin nymph]

And if you like, fallout London

Its an overlay over fallout 4 so it's one or the other , or do what I do and just install fallout 4 twice and use the second install for London

[steep sluice]

London is what Frontiers should have been

[quaint zealot]

I don't like fallout London cuz America is better

[steep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/laughs-in-british-britain-british-laughs-lol-gif-20412690

[rapid trench]

Hey fellas fallout players, I was wondering if y’all would play a fallout game about aliens

[next hound]

No because aliens were never supposed to be canon in Fallout 😂

And Mothership Zeta is one of the worst DLCs in the entire franchise. Making a Fallout game about aliens is one of the things no one SHOULD do. The best course of action is to leave aliens in wild wasteland.

[potent flume]

My dude, I don't think Aliens being in Fallout is meant to be entirely serious in the game. Things can exist for shenanigans such as based on humour of reflection with IRL conspiracies. Easter eggs, as it were.

That being said, I don't think an aliens focused game would work either. Depends on the game's design, lest it just becomes a Fallout skin of X-COM games.

[steep sluice]

Amen brudda

[next hound]

I never said they should be taken entirely serious. I was actually saying the opposite. Aliens were a thing ever since Fallout 1 and meant to be a silly Easter egg. My point is it shouldn’t be treated as canon, and there shouldn’t be a Fallout game based around them.

I brought up Mothership Zeta because that DLC is supposed to be treated as canon like the rest of them. Once introduced in that way as story content, it oversteps its boundaries as an Easter egg and becomes something to be considered seriously within the franchise.

[steep sluice]

Zeta was so bad I actively uninstall it each playthrough

[next hound]

LOL

It’s a weird DLC that doesn’t fit in with the rest. Don’t know why Bethesda thought that would be a good idea… It’s like they completely misunderstood the random encounters part in the classics.

[steep sluice]

Only good part about the dlc is the samurai armor and katana

But you have to suffer the DLC to obtain the ability to roleplay a post apocalyptic weeaboo

[abstract bough]

Nah Paulson’s Revolver is peak
Fallout 3 shotguns are busted beyond belief and this one continues with that trend

[steep sluice]

I like the terrible shotgun

[abstract bough]

Me too

[tribal rampart]

I'd play a smaller project set on the zetan planet, would be cool. Especially with all the anti grav stuff Beth implemented into Starfield.

[junior stone]

Imagine fallout daggerfall

[steep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/marmota-cooking-hold-up-gif-5382607284931131048

[covert galleon]

Am I the only person who liked mothership zeta

[steep sluice]

Probably

I'm glad at least SOMEONE enjoyed it 😅

[lunar hull]

completed it in every playthru, it's weird but that's why i like it

[steep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-having-fun-cortex-crash-gif-19604177

[lunar hull]

and how else are you gunna get the MPLX Novasurge?!

[steep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-dodgeball-movie-ben-stiller-white-goodman-gif-14923367

[lunar hull]

literally the best energy weapon in the whole dang game and it saddens me mothership zeta dlc is so rare unless you got GOTY edition

[covert galleon]

Best weapon is Firelance. Damage increases with both pyromaniac and xenotech expert

[lone crypt]

Primm is shutting down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58E3XZIGLGk

[maiden cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/unbothered-moisturized-happy-in-my-lane-focused-gif-13916667847790554983

[steep sluice]

Nah Firelance

[steep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/dirty-docks-shawty-triflin-shawty-triflin-she-gif-22455514

[lunar hull]

i've just not ever really been into the alien blaster... can't even bring myself to use it in fo4

buuuuut this gives me an idea for those that do love the Firelance... make it a weapon you can find in the alien's cave in fo4

pyromaniac and xenotech aren't in fo4, but the weapon itself could have properties that have those effects

[flat condor]

Hey does anyone know approximately when we're getting the Pipboy 3000? I know they ship in June but is there a guess on the day?

[potent flume]

Mid year is all we know.

They won't be able to say until they actually start sending them out.

[vagrant yew]

I actually ordered one but then canceled. It doesn’t use lion battery. Before ordering it I suggest you to check the battery type and how to maintain it.

[flat condor]

Rechargeable LiPo power cell, USB-C cable included

Looks fine to me man, I can just replace the battery with Amazon if there's issues.

[vagrant yew]

Lipo batteries demand more maintenance. You shouldn’t allow it to discharge completely or charge too much.

I suggest you to read safety measures first. Those batteries are usually used in rc models.

[flat condor]

I'm sorry do you think you're chatting with someone inexperienced with such matters? I know exactly what I'm getting into. I understand if you don't like it but I'm asking you politely to stop trying to discourage me from gettting it

[vagrant yew]

Ok. I ment no offence.

[flat condor]

Thank you. Let me enjoy my 300 dollar wristwatch

[vagrant yew]

Cool. Enjoy!

[steep sluice]

Jeez 300 dollars

[exotic hill]

Anyways
Can you guys help me out with the side quest: "help Bethesda finish their current projects, clean the office or code some bugs, so we can have a New Vegas remake sooner?"
I'm stuck at the 'Speech 100' skill check to convince them. Need to find some Naughty Nightwear ASAP. 👀👔

[amber plinth]

https://klipy.com/gifs/blinking-eyes-white-guy-2--k01KS62NKWFR7VY002JSWMD8QZ5

[exotic hill]

Too late, my character just clipped through the office floor and now I can't move nor complete the dialogue tree...

[wanton fjord]

[next hound]

*Remaster. NV is already good the way it is!

Even then i don’t really think it needs a remaster either…

[exotic hill]

I would love to see Bethesda's touch of NV also, sure is good but can bee better😏

Or a sequel would be even better, but I'm a humble guy, I don't ask for much ( I've already written pretty much of it, Bethesda if you want to collaborate, I'll find that naughty nightwear)

[next hound]

I wouldn’t count on it man.. Bethesda didn’t write 1, 2, or Vegas and all those games connect to one another. When they did try to write NV (show) many NV fans hated it.. especially season 2. I don’t think it would be a good idea.

Not trying to be a hater (right now at least lol) I’m just generally speaking.

[tribal rampart]

Intresting, most fans of NV I've spoken to say the show did it justice.

[potent flume]

It's at this point where people just need to make their own opinion on the matter, and try to not speak on any form of majority, because that majority consensus that's trying to be established can be over-exaggerated.

The issue attracts nothing but drama from either side.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but at some point, 1 side has to admit they're wrong on the matter, and neither side is going to want to be that side.

[nocturne pilot]

the reason for the discrepancy is that some NV fans put the courier on such a high pedestal you would think he could walk on water. not realizing that the courier is only human and not everything he touched was going to turn to gold or stay that way.

[dull anchor]

Why did Skyrim give PlayStation 100gb increase for mods and Fallout 4 is only getting 15gb?!? This is unacceptable and ridiculous.

[nocturne pilot]

it could be a functional issue with the game/console or something involving sony policy.

besides that 15 is better than the 2 you had.

I doubt that you know how any of the involved work is actually achieved.

just because you want something doesn't mean its possible.

[short wyvern]

You can be critical of the studio, but without bashing.

[next hound]

No offense but don’t think this is correct. In fact one of the issues that I found was that the show didn’t even canonize one of the NV endings, it’s a completely new thing that wasn’t in the game.

[nocturne pilot]

with ceasar dead and the legion divided at the start we can say that ending is out. yes man clearly wasn't the ending either. that leaves ncr or house.

[next hound]

But House isn’t it bc it’s heavily implied that isn’t him on the screen, and the NCR are juts a handful of people now

And NV is destroyed

[nocturne pilot]

the fall of shady sands happened after NV. still could have been them.

hard to keep gains when the capitol get nuked

[next hound]

.

[nocturne pilot]

only the strip. freeside is fine

[next hound]

House didn’t even care about Freeside lol but aside from that, If the NCR somehow won, it was all for nothing anyways. No matter how you slice it, nothing mattered and everything has been destroyed as a reset button for every faction in the game.

[nocturne pilot]

house not caring doesnt mean freeside isnt part of NV. things weren't stable before or after the courier went through.

[next hound]

He heavily neglected Freeside even if it was part of NV. The strip was his main priority. Houses ending isn’t looking so good if literally everything in the place he cares about most looks messed up. ~~ btw it makes no sense how Vegas looks that way and Freeside is okay. Deathclaws had to get in somewhere..~~

And the fact he’s probably dead and replaced with AI

[nocturne pilot]

my theory is that the NCR ending is what happened but losing shady sands ment they couldn't hold it. as for the deathclaws no idea. maybe a gate to the strip that wasn't in game like the commie vault(which was cut content.)

[nocturne pilot]

house has always had a back up plan of some sort. not shocking

[next hound]

He doesn’t have a backup plan when the courier beats him with a golf club 😭 I HIGHLY doubt he had a secret AI to replace him if the courier can take over Vegas themselves, let alone every other faction.

[nocturne pilot]

the show indicates more than 1 person has gone after his body. given that he is still here he did have a back up plan.

that and the courier clearly didnt take over so that is a moot point

[steep sluice]

Mr Grok

[next hound]

The point I’m trying to make is House was so desperate to cling onto life, his physical body lives in a life support machine. House barely had any time to set up and defend Vegas from bombs, same for the rest of his technology. It’s described as being “buggy” with system crashes for half a decade, and even then it was just barely usable and nearly costed his life.

House is intelligent, but based on the dialogue in Vegas and how he stays dead after every ending, he didn’t make an AI, that was a TV show thing. And for a gameplay perspective, that defeats the point of killing him if he can just.. come back again.

[next hound]

😭

[nocturne pilot]

house also said that he fixed those problems. the bugs were a back then issue. he doesnt stay dead after his ending and its clear there were some ret-cons.

NV is not some religious text that must be adhered to at all costs dude. things can change. like how power armor changed.

[next hound]

To put it plainly, retcons in general suck for every franchise. What’s the point of establishing lore if it’s going to be changed

[nocturne pilot]

every franchise changes lore at some point. its not abnormal or bad.

[next hound]

Yeah and that gets bad rep almost every time

The majority of actual people who play story games hates when anything is retconned

[nocturne pilot]

neither you nor I speak for the majority of people so this is an empty statement

[uneven ingot]

I love retcons if it adds an interesting new element or layer to the story

[steep sluice]

Yes because it renders previous stuff renders what came before moot which would be fine if what came before sucked but when it was good before it's just pointless and bad writing

[next hound]

Right

[uneven ingot]

I’m 100% for retconning anything boring or underdeveloped

[steep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-moustache-villain-vince-mcmahon-moustache-vince-mcmahon-wwe-gif-16923593942963698573

[steep sluice]

Like Fallout 3 and Fallout 4s main stories

[next hound]

But we’re talking about NV in this case and the story isn’t boring or underdeveloped.

So there should be no point of retcons

[nocturne pilot]

they didnt even retcon much. they changed the part about house dying. thats it. they mostly worked on what happened after.

[steep sluice]

The story is the best in series despite the info dump at the start

[uneven ingot]

I enjoyed NV but I don’t have the same attachment to it as a lot of other people, so I don’t mind if they retcon things a little bit

[next hound]

[steep sluice]

I will put FEV in your drinking water

[nocturne pilot]

NV was good but its not that good

[uneven ingot]

Does it mix well with AG-1?

[steep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-omg-lol-laugh-gif-12956385894842429484

[next hound]

I didn’t mind the intro tbh. Gotta get familiar when what you’re going up against

[uneven ingot]

I really enjoyed NV’s story structure and characters, the gameplay was kind of bad as someone who’s first fallout was 4

My favorite game is 76 so take my opinion about NV with a grain of salt

[steep sluice]

Considering the rest of the story is great I can overlook it... for now 👀

[fast quiver]

hi gang
is there any channel for Fallout Shelter?

[next hound]

But gameplay was never the important part of Fallout. Look at 1 and 2

[uneven ingot]

If gameplay didn’t matter then go read a book. I want good gameplay in my video games

[next hound]

????

[nocturne pilot]

my first was 3 and new vegas was no better or worse. the only reason it has the fans it does is cause its west coast. the west coast lore is doing all of the heavy lifting

[short wyvern]

#fallout-shelter-chat

[next hound]

Absolutely NOT what?? It’s because the story is really good and faithful towards the classics. Who says they like NV because it’s west coast lol

[steep sluice]

Fallout was a roleplaying game, the gameplay excelled when you were roleplaying, the combat was weak but the roleplay was the main dish

[nocturne pilot]

the classics are on the west coast genius.

[uneven ingot]

I think they mean the story on the west coast is more interesting and developed than the east, that’s why people like it

[next hound]

Yes (misread the original message lol)

So people like more developed stories, how surprising 🤣

[steep sluice]

I prefer the west coast because it has 3 of the best games set there, east coast has Fallout 3 which I also adore and F76 but is also burdened with F4, so 3v2

[steep sluice]

This

I also want better roleplaying and deep choice and problem solving solutions which is why I loved NV

[uneven ingot]

Yeah NV approach to roleplay elements really makes it stand out

[steep sluice]

F3 was a fine start despite its horrendous story but then F4 fell flat outside of gunplay

76 seems to be going the right direction again so I hope F5 will be more like 3 and NV

[uneven ingot]

4’s Far Harbor DLC has traces of good roleplay and interesting choices, but it was so short compared to complicated relations in NV

[steep sluice]

Yes

Far Harbor was a step up from the main game

Especially when you side with the best faction, the children of atom

[uneven ingot]

I really liked how you could cure the sick guy in town using the mysterious serum you get from the Cabots

[steep sluice]

Yea

I'm hoarding mine right now though since evil raider man

[uneven ingot]

And that the leaders and antagonists aren’t one note generic good guys and bad guys

DiMa is fantastically written imo

Esp if you bring Nick

[steep sluice]

Sadly I never role with Nick lol

[nocturne pilot]

best faction to kill and loot

[uneven ingot]

No that’s the Enclave

[steep sluice]

Nah they give you Atoms Judgement the coolest melee weapon in the game and Atoms Bullwark

[nocturne pilot]

I usually play 4 as the minutemen

[next hound]

Children of atom is so bad lol murder them ALL

[steep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-binh-gif-6142726653922245520

[uneven ingot]

The Minutemen are a blank slate of neutral good that you can project any type of leadership style you want onto

[next hound]

Nah just kill the remaining Minutemen

[steep sluice]

Since I cant claim the castle as a raider outpost I dress the minutemen up in raider gear and pretend they are my own gang of raiders

[nocturne pilot]

still makes them better than the other factions

[steep sluice]

BoS are the best faction in F4 base game

[uneven ingot]

The fact we don’t have our own “Yes Man” independent end-game choice was a failure

[nocturne pilot]

all raiders and COA need to be exterminated

[steep sluice]

Raiders are the best

[nocturne pilot]

also BOS are just raiders in power armor

[steep sluice]

Raiders with style

[next hound]

That’s also them in NV

[nocturne pilot]

yeah this you and I can agree on. on the west coast I'm ncr all the way.

[next hound]

Aaaaand we’re back to disagreements. House is better

[steep sluice]

Mr House is the second best faction

https://tenor.com/view/astolfo-femboy-caesars-legion-fallout-new-vegas-fnv-gif-313871778316353565

[nocturne pilot]

I'm gonna upload him into high tech blender. House! make me a strawberry shake!

[next hound]

[nocturne pilot]

I kill legion when I'm low on caps.

[uneven ingot]

Lmao a Legion anime waifu

[steep sluice]

Tbf their gear rakes in caps

[next hound]

Tbf isn’t Legions endings better than the NCR?? 😂

[nocturne pilot]

and their coins

[steep sluice]

Husbando*

[uneven ingot]

Even better 😂

[nocturne pilot]

NO.

[steep sluice]

If Caesar lives yes

[next hound]

Oop

[nocturne pilot]

thankfully he doesn't

[steep sluice]

If Legate takes over it ends kinda badly for everyone

[steep sluice]

I always sell Arcade to him to fix his brain when I'm not RPing a Legion with high medicine

[next hound]

LOL???????

[nocturne pilot]

I've done this cause arcade annoys me.

[steep sluice]

You can sell Arcade to him

[next hound]

I know but that’s wild so say so casually 🤣 y’all are arcade haters!

[steep sluice]

Lol I love him, that's why I give him to Caesar, it shows how much I love the Legion

[steep sluice]

Hes one of my favourite companions 😅

[next hound]

Love him so much you sell him as a slave ❤️

[nocturne pilot]

I like rose and raul

[steep sluice]

If you truly love someone you must let them go... be a slave to the son of Mars

[next hound]

[steep sluice]

I hate having to choose between Rose and the Van Graffs, but in a good way

[nocturne pilot]

for me it depends on if I'm doing a good or evil character.

[next hound]

Wait who’s Rose? Like one of the people in the sewer areas underneath Vegas

Like that person in that one area in that one location

[nocturne pilot]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Rose_of_Sharon_Cassidy

[next hound]

I’m so stupid.

[nocturne pilot]

she is related to a companion from 1 or 2 I believe.

[next hound]

Totally forgot about the rose thing. I see everyone call her Cassidy so I was super confused

[next hound]

John Cassidy yeah

[nocturne pilot]

I played enough NV to have some things burned into my memory.

[next hound]

Fair. I didn’t really have Cassidy as a companion for all too long so I’ll excuse my mistake on that

[nocturne pilot]

it only sticks out to me cause its a dumb thing to name your kid. "the rose of sharon cassidy"

[next hound]

Cass says her Father got it from a book, “The Grapes Of Wrath”

[nocturne pilot]

doesnt make it a good name

[next hound]

That’s fair

[steep sluice]

Best companion is Veronica

[uneven ingot]

ED-E is a real one

[steep sluice]

Second best

Once hes had his lonesome road update

Controversial opinion time that ISNT ragebait

I think the dog companions are massively overrated

[uneven ingot]

The only reason there’s a dog in every game is because it’s a reference to the post apocalyptic film “A Boy and His Dog”

It’s even referenced in the TV show where Cooper Howard stars in a film called “A Man and His Dog”

[steep sluice]

Yea

And Mad Max

[uneven ingot]

Does Mad Max have a dog? The only one I really paid attention to was Fury Road

[steep sluice]

Yes he did have a dog

He was kewt

[next hound]

Wow it’s.. crazy how wrong you are.

But in all seriousness, I like having dog companions in Fallout for a bit, but human companions are just more interesting. Learning about their stories and doing their quests is so fun.

But I do like how Rex at least has a little side quest you could do for him ❤️

[steep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-binh-gif-6142726653922245520

[potent flume]

In the first movies. From what I've read, that dog became the inspiration for Dog Meat.

[potent flume]

it’s heavily implied that isn’t him on the screen

How did you come to this opinion?

[next hound]

In the credits of one of the episodes, there’s a dead body in a pod with a securitron beside it

The Strip is destroyed and House no longer has control until he is reactivated with cold fusion.

Houses dialogue in the TV show: “Over the years, my body became something of a target for wandering travelers with something to prove. I have been poisoned, shot, bludgeoned with a crowbar."

[uneven ingot]

The physical body of House was a husk anyway. He’s been operating in a digital format since well before NV

[next hound]

So it’s one of these things;

He somehow uploaded his mind to the systems which is a whole other can of worms and doesn’t add up with House in NV, along with making his death mean nothing in the games so it fails as a narrative, story, and gameplay perspective

Or it’s Yes Man, which is also highly fishy bc Yes Man doesn’t literally become House in NV.

[next hound]

His body is still alive, and his control with the systems deactivate after you kill him.

[uneven ingot]

Ok? Then his body was the battery keeping him alive. His whole memory and personality was already uploaded to a machine

[next hound]

Where does it specify this in the game

[uneven ingot]

The fact that when you kill his body his control systems turn off

[next hound]

That has nothing to do with his memory and personality being uploaded to a machine

[uneven ingot]

Oh that. He says it himself in the TV show

His plan was always to upload his consciousness into a digital format

[next hound]

That’s called a retcon and terrible writing

[uneven ingot]

Can you explain? I don’t know enough about each NV’s ending

It doesn’t really contradict anything I’ve seen in the video game

It didn’t replace anything, it just added in extra info imo

Literally almost the entire time you interact with House is through a computer until his final moments

It’s pretty obvious that digitizing his consciousness was and always has been his plan considering how far he’s gotten with it. The TV show just confirms that

[next hound]

I’m not all educated on each ending, but I know in every other ending he is required to die or be deactivated from his systems and die a slow, painful death from germ exposure. It was never the case he had a backup conscious.
As I said earlier, he was having problems with his OS systems before the war and even had to revert back to his old OS so he could at least defend Vegas. While he may have “fixed” these issues after he woke up (I don’t really recall him fixing all of that, as he needed the platinum chip to even upgrade his securitrons and systems), I don’t see any evidence of his conscious argument.

This also raises the question; If he DID have the power to do this, why didn’t he do it during NV? That would’ve countered any sort of possible dethroning.

[potent flume]

I think there's an aspect being ignored or forgotten here.
The producers of the show wanted to "preserve" player choice for the gameplay, and not cause drama over which game ending is canon.

[next hound]

Avoiding all the base endings in the game is an ending in itself. If they wanted to do what you said, the show wouldn’t be canon.

[potent flume]

I'm only saying what they said.

I'm not inclined to want to debate right now what is/isn't canon. It always causes fights, also given the people out there who apparently consider anything after FO1 to be non.

[muted bronze]

also given the people out there who apparently consider anything after FO1 to be non.
As I've seen said so many times. "There is no one who hates Fallout more than Fallout fans"

[uneven ingot]

this is where the idea that House’s body was simply a battery keeping his systems running comes from. He already did the legwork uploading as much of his consciousness as he can into the digital machine. The body is just there to give him the capacity to keep running. Whether it be the “spark of life” so to speak or maybe just pure spite.

Once all of his core personality and memories are uploaded into the machine, his body isn’t experiencing anything new in its pod so any new experiences came from House’s digital sensors and systems

Practically speaking, House was already 99.99% digital by the time we meet him. His physical body was simply making sure he had the juice to run.

House is more computer than man to the point that whether his physical body lives or not doesn’t really matter

[next hound]

I’m just going to copy paste a comment that sums it up well. It was basically one of the points I was trying to make.

“If you do kill him, he seems completed blindsided and laments how your actions are going to cause his plans to suffer critical existence failure. Which isn't how I imagine how someone who has a digital backup contingency plan would act.”

[next hound]

Not.. really..? Yeah he spoke through a screen and the player sees him as that 99% of the time, but he still has a physical body that’s very much still flesh and blood. I definitely wouldn’t say he’s more computer than man..

“Don't let the video screens and computer terminals fool you. I'm flesh and blood, not silicon.”

[steep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-new-vegas-mr-house-house-mmm-gif-9760494764755111271

[steady bison]

All of you have to remember that without the platinum chip he still misses his next gen OS upgrade for his super computer. He was projecting his mind

Let's say he was in windows 8 and his plans needed windows 11

[steep sluice]

God imagine needing windows 11

[next hound]

Yeah I said that in one of my earlier comments

[steep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-scroll-crying-depression-doomscrolling-gif-4138822033792608878

[twin nymph]

https://youtu.be/Sh8hB8EO53Q

[tender yoke]

i heard yall like bethesda games, so i put bethesda games inside your bethesda game https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/105294

[potent flume]

Neat!

[steep sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/capa-pandu-stucapa-studiocapa-atg-gif-10949048042327825999

[sterile sage]

what about doom

[nocturne pilot]

it met its doom I'm afraid.

[tender yoke]

I did doom, it’s on my YouTube @sterile sage no one really cared

[tender yoke]

https://youtu.be/HPyE5VKUXrg?si=if6TPNckssqNenaD

just added oblivion in the recent update. All games are playable minus New Vegas - thats coming soon though

[safe shell]

no new vegas chat ;(

[loud inlet]

Oh, why isn't there a Fallout: New Vegas chat?

[elfin forge]

new vegas no love 😦

[opal imp]

😭

[loud inlet]

Yeah...

[violet canyon]

We Demand New Vegas Chat

[safe shell]

also this server is gonna need a massive overhaul lmao i can't even view the rules

[elfin forge]

i need a big iron on my hip chat

[loud inlet]

We beed a New Vegas chat.

[long verge]

No New Vegas chat why bother

[loud inlet]

New vegas chat.

Or is itr because it belongs to...

[zenith dock]

almost like NV isn’t a BGS title

[loud inlet]

Obsidian?

[supple wren]

Bruh no New Vegas chat

[elfin forge]

i mean it is still a bethesda ip and game

[loud inlet]

I mean, FNV is basically from Obsidian.

[alpine ridge]

There is no new Vegas chat because Bethesda can’t accept that someone made a better game in 18 months than have in their whole life

[elfin forge]

@verbal turtle NV chat?

[astral knot]

yes

[supple wren]

This Is not very gamer of them

[zenith dock]

bruh this server is for BGS games, regardless of whether bethesda owns it or not

[potent gale]

hello

[plain kindle]

I knew there wouldnt be a nv chat lool

[tepid flax]

Where new vegas chat?

[elfin forge]

im pretty shocked tbh that they left it out lol

[loud inlet]

We need

Fallout 1 and 2 Remaster

[elfin forge]

fallout new vegas 2 chat

[supple wren]

I honestly have no hope for fallout 5

[tepid flax]

New Vegas chat is the friends along the way

[loud inlet]

In third person.

And just remaster Fallout 3, and New Vegas.

[slate moss]

The fact theres no NV chat is a real kick in the head

[loud inlet]

lol

[supple wren]

The game was rigged from the start

[loud inlet]

yeah

[astral storm]

if there is a daggerfall chat we need a new vegas chat

and one combined for 1 and 2

[tepid flax]

Speaking of that where is fallout tactics chat?

[elfin forge]

so mods updated the discord 2 mins within us all charging in, but didnt add a new vegas chat

[fathom rapids]

Its still new

[tepid flax]

Fallout tactics baby

[fathom rapids]

Theyll add nv chat soon most likely

[astral storm]

oh yeah

[safe shell]

if there's gonna be a chat for new vegas there should be a chat for the classic fallouts

[tepid flax]

Fallout Brotherhood of Steel

[safe shell]

:(

[slate moss]

Yeah odd theres no classic fallout chat.

[astral storm]

that too

and heretic

[elfin forge]

i mean its not hard to make a chat for people to talk in, even if obsidian made it, adding a channel to chat isnt like a bad thing lol

[tepid flax]

We cant forget the most important fallout game

Fallout shelter

[manic gull]

no fnv chat kinda cringe ngl

[safe shell]

i dont see why it would be a bad thing

[mossy scaffold]

fallout tactics

[astral storm]

BAN HIM

[safe shell]

it's like two clicks and helps filter out spam

[long verge]

So real

[peak obsidian]

aw no new Vegas chat, rip

[safe shell]

cause otherwise this chat will turn into a new vegas chat

[tepid flax]

I will rebel for fallout tactics

[mossy scaffold]

add todd bot to server

[slate moss]

I feel we are forgetting the other most important fallout game. Fallout tactics

[mossy scaffold]

me want todd bot

[hollow bridge]

Wassup

[elfin forge]

16X less chats

[safe shell]

todd bot todd bot

[tepid flax]

Shouldn't we also have DLC chats?

[safe shell]

eh that falls under the main game imo

[tepid flax]

True true

[safe shell]

like you'd talk about Far Harbor stuff in the fallout 4 channel, no need for a specific channel

[quasi sentinel]

nv chat?

[loud inlet]

Oh.

Okay.

[astral storm]

theyve got a chat for a game that doesnt even exist yet

[elfin forge]

im gonna mute this discord for a week, come back, if theres no new vegas chat im out. I mean should i be shocked? 84 on metacritic and no bonus. i didnt forget

[astral storm]

but no chat for the best fallout game

[safe shell]

it's a bethesda game so it makes sense

[slate moss]

Eh starfields their next big baby

[astral storm]

unless is sucks

[slate moss]

To quote the IT crowd, nv is yesterdays jam

[mossy scaffold]

there's a chat for a hobbled together mess of models and barely functional code but there isn't one for new vegas

[safe shell]

though there aren't any DOOM, Wolfenstein, or other bethesda owned games so they might be wanting to limit it to bethesda developed games

[mossy scaffold]

maybe

[astral storm]

ooooooh

makes snse

[mossy scaffold]

yeah i guess it is called bethesda game STUDIOS

but there's a doom server

so like

[safe shell]

though i think New Vegas and the classic fallouts should be exceptions, Fallout's bethesda's second largest IP and removing half of the games feels wrong

[mossy scaffold]

also where skyrim emoji

need skyrim emoji

require elder scrolls emoticon

[slate moss]

Like it doesnt have too much of an excuse too cause exile is owned by MS too

Unless they got a discord too

[mossy scaffold]

WHAT

NO WAY

that wasn't in the rules

[tepid flax]

What you say?

[mossy scaffold]

i read the rules

i said frick but with a u

[slate moss]

Dynos are wierd

[tepid flax]

Whack

[mossy scaffold]

oh

oh come on

[tepid flax]

👀

[mossy scaffold]

it was 6 words

[slate moss]

I think it hates you bud

[mossy scaffold]

6 frickin words

[safe shell]

dogmeat emote tho 👀

[mossy scaffold]

6 gosh darn words

[tepid flax]

Bethesda is trying to silence the fallout new Vegas boys

[slate moss]

Easy on that goshdarn

[tepid flax]

If I get banned for speaking up remember me boys

[mossy scaffold]

tfw you make games with gore and heavy profanity and you restrict basic profanity on your discord

this is a todd moment

[astral storm]

what word

[potent gale]

let's keep new vegas alive !!!

[astral storm]

wait what happened

was someone muted

[slate moss]

Discord community systems is an either or thing

[mossy scaffold]

this is literally 1984

[slate moss]

Either your public or your 18 plus cant really be both idiotic system

[tepid flax]

17 year olds are valid right?

[astral storm]

o

no

[tepid flax]

Oh

[astral storm]

never

[unique plinth]

React to this if you are sus

[tepid flax]

[primal turret]

This is going to go great

[astral storm]

Im gonna be honest

new vegas is the only game ive played

[smoky gazelle]

so funny not to see new Vegas here

[astral storm]

and I played it last week

[safe shell]

i havent actually played any video games

i'm a social experiment created by Harvard University

[astral storm]

and fallout is my new favorite games

except 4

[slate moss]

Well lets not forget fallout Extreme

Gone but not forgotten

[astral storm]

I tried 4 and it was kinda lame (sorry)

[tepid flax]

Fallout fans will rise

[safe shell]

if any game needs a channel it's this one

van buren never released my guy

idk what people would talk about

3.5

[tepid flax]

Damn spitting facts

[astral storm]

3.awesome

[slate moss]

Nah my dude hes talking bout wasteland three but you play it on an old tv

[tepid flax]

Wow

[safe shell]

ohhh

[manic gull]

:(

[astral storm]

I have 1 and 3 which one should I play first

[quasi sentinel]

it's kinda obvious isn't it?

[grave pilot]

He's the PR person, he's not to be expected to know the details of lore.

[tepid flax]

If your on pc 3 dont work

[slate moss]

Worst of all theres no channel for fallouts 5 through 75

[astral storm]

I fixed 3 with pc

[safe shell]

depends if you've played isometric games before, if not I'd say 3 (if you can get it to work), but if you're good with games like Fallout 1 then yeah Fallout 1

[tepid flax]

Oh no they added a timer curse you bethesda

[astral storm]

I have play them both for 15 minutes

oh god dammit there goes all of the fun

[tepid flax]

Dang

[safe shell]

i think the original fallout has a better story but 3 is so much more fun to play

[tepid flax]

I just want nv chat

[manic gull]

don't we all

[quasi sentinel]

they are trying to silence the new vegas boyz

[tepid flax]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-we-cant-expect-gif-15199201

[blissful smelt]

This server is dedicated to Bethesda Game Studios who developed 3, 4, and 76. NV was worked on by another developer. 🙂

[slate moss]

The lack of Nv finally makes me understand the sorrow and pain that is Johnny guitar

[tepid flax]

Wait it's only games published by bethesda?

[astral storm]

does anybody else build characters off of songs in nv

[manic gull]

ok and

[tepid flax]

But New vegas was published by Bethesda so if its published games doesnt that count?

[slate moss]

The mans right. Like we get its games by bgs but yeah no NV

[astral storm]

"Bethesda Game Studios"

[manic gull]

it just works studios

[tepid flax]

I am saddened

[violet canyon]

Yes

[edgy bough]

So no New Vegas?

[safe shell]

yeah this is just gonna be a new vegas chat tbh

[versed epoch]

lol idk why i thought the discord wou;d look any different than reddit, XD how about my" i just love the anti-aesthetic of 1940's-1959 retro futuristic post apocalypse as a setting" people?

[tepid flax]

Welp time to sing johnnny guitar I'm my shower

[quasi sentinel]

where is my NV

[tepid flax]

I love fallout

[safe shell]

same

[torpid timber]

NV wasnt made by BGS, this is a BGS server

[nova quarry]

pretty much this

[versed epoch]

i love all the games, fo1 and 2 as well

[nova quarry]

The reason there's no NV chat is the same reason there's no ESO chat lol

[edgy bough]

New Vegas was my favorite one right next to 76

[versed epoch]

tactics wasnt that bad for what it was either tbh

[slate moss]

Tatics could of been worse

[torpid timber]

If you want representation where in my TES Redguard chat

[tepid flax]

Tactics was solid

[versed epoch]

fer sure

[torpid timber]

Tactics lets you play as a Deathclaw modfree, this makes it the best Fallout game

[nova quarry]

tactics was good, but that along with BoS was why interplay had to sell the IP to bethesda.

[versed epoch]

i am redoing a fo1 playthrough and i just love the story and environment, im wasting so much time

[tepid flax]

I honestly would like to be able to play as a ghoul

[slate moss]

I mean whats a 10 str unarmed build but a human deathclaw

[versed epoch]

idk why we havent been able to lol

[tepid flax]

Yea really

[nova quarry]

technical limitations

[torpid timber]

yeah but you arent a furry then

[slate moss]

Both of you are correct

[nova quarry]

The main answer for why you can't do most cool things in games is mostly going to fall back on technical issues.

[versed epoch]

in the same bucket i dont play the modern games without mods so im basically making it more how i see fallout

did i kill chat?

my b

[slate moss]

Ehh it happens bud

[versed epoch]

i dont mind tbh.

[safe shell]

where's my IHRA Professional Drag Racing 2005 channel >:(

[astral storm]

up your ass

[safe shell]

it's made by BGS damnit

there's fallout 3

[astral storm]

it is for games bethesda developed

[versed epoch]

lol

[tepid flax]

Actually wait where is the prey channel?

Oh wait that's arkane

[safe shell]

bethesda didn't develop it so it isn't there

[slate moss]

I prey they rectify this

[tepid flax]

Is the evil within valid?

Now I'm just confused

[slate moss]

So no shetposting, this is just bgs games from the looks of it not bsw or zenimax

Which means you know no prey, doom, wolf, etc

[tepid flax]

I'm not trying to I'm just confused on what was actually made

I apologize for that

[magic briar]

tfw no fnv chat

[tepid flax]

Oh no

[magic briar]

oh lol

wack

[tepid flax]

Yeah they started purging all the new Vegas stuff in this chat

[magic briar]

wtf

I understand not wanting to make a channel for it, but cant even talk about it? in.. fallout general?
..and I got censored for saying the F word .. in server where most of the games are T/M. nice

sad

[quasi sentinel]

one of the most iconic fnv lines can't even get quoted

[nova quarry]

Long richard johnson?

[tepid flax]

Which quote?

[quasi sentinel]

get ucked

[tepid flax]

Ah dang

[magic briar]

[quasi sentinel]

[tepid flax]

This is a sad day in this "fair" nation

[magic briar]

"fair"

[tepid flax]

[rich edge]

Anyone else know why New Vegas deathclaws are so powerful 😭

[grave pilot]

Damage Threshold.

[magic briar]

hey bro dont say the V word ur gonna get purged

[rich edge]

What?

[magic briar]

lol

[tepid flax]

The sacred texts cant be spoken of

[rich edge]

Ahhh my bad

[tepid flax]

The forbidden game

[quasi sentinel]

they are called Deathclaws for a reason

[rich edge]

Lmao

[quasi sentinel]

oh nvm, you can kill one in less than 1 hour in FO4

[bright turtle]

I never thought i'd see the day of an official bethesda discord server

Hello Fellow Fallout Fans!

[slate moss]

To be fair in that bit of f4, you have a powersuit, a minigun and atleast 3 cars to explode

[rich edge]

Hello 👋

[tepid flax]

Fallout gamers unite

[magic briar]

Yeah, I love how dangerous [REDACTED] deathclaws are, they should be that way in every game. Theyre legitimately scary at every level lol

[wet turtle]

i wish deathclaw combined the modern agility/aesthetic and the danger level i remember feeling about them in fallout 3 and new vegas

[nova quarry]

It was pretty bad design to allow such an encounter to happen at an early level though.

A forced encounter as well.

[magic briar]

I like how they run in 3/nv. they pull up like the fat kid at the public swimming hole with the floaty tube around his waist.

[wet turtle]

these day they feel more like Coolclaws rather than Deathclaws

[grave pilot]

Not necessarily bad design, simply an early encounter.

[slate moss]

Agreed but imo its different than having some poor scrub drop one with a pipe pistol atleast, like skyrim and its bear

[quasi sentinel]

these days they are soft like butter

[wet turtle]

older fallout deathclaw where death machine, until you realize they got stuck everywhere easily

[slate moss]

Or skyrim and its first dragon

[frozen kayak]

Yeah, they should’ve turned that early deathclaw into a weaker version

[magic briar]

They went from "deathclaw" to "ohnothatsmildlyconcerningclaws"

[wet turtle]

now they dont get stuck as easily and got a ranged attack

[nova quarry]

Allowing the player to merk what is meant to be the most deadly creature in the wastes, less than an hour into the game. Purely for cinematic reasons isn't bad design?

[frozen kayak]

You just mop the floor with it

[grave pilot]

The most deadly creature in the wasteland can still be taken out with a few bullets.

[frozen kayak]

Uh huh

[slate moss]

The game also gives you very end tier rewards instantly for this act

[magic briar]

True, it would have been a lot better if it were a Young Deathclaw or a Crippled Wheelchair-Bound Deathclaw.

[grave pilot]

Just look at the Super Mutant. In F1/2, they were creatures to be feared. But you could still take them out in a few 10mm shots.

[nova quarry]

It is cool at first, but like that removes all suspense that you have with future death claw encounters. They're a piece of piss to fight.

[wet turtle]

gameplay wise, probably a little bad, cinematic/experience wise. it was a epic first boss battle

[frozen kayak]

All you gotta do is shoot them in the belly and they ded

[grave pilot]

In fairness, anyone can get tired or bored of a scene that is meant to give a specific emotion.

[slate moss]

That sums up a lot of f4

[grave pilot]

Such as the Deathclaws of Quarry Junction in New Vegas. Or the Deathclaw Nest at Old Olney.

[wet turtle]

you'd be surprised how long it take me to learn about their weakness, too used to shooting for the head lol

[magic briar]

Power Armor training? forget that. Strength requirement? forget that. Now go kill the most dangerous monster in the wastes.

it was wack.

[grave pilot]

Like I said, neither existed in Fallout 1 or 2.

So if anything, it was a testament to how it was back then, if a bit early on.

[magic briar]

Though, I do like what 4/76 does for power armor.

[astral storm]

I think I may have played new vegas completely wrong

[nova quarry]

Aye, having such a forced encounter for cinematic purposes is bad design imo. There's better ways you can make the player feel accomplished without doing such a thing.

[wet turtle]

kinda glad power armor training is gone, i remember watching guide in how to skip the storyline just to get that perk in fallout 3 or later how to rush operation anchorage at lvl 5 to get it

[quasi sentinel]

just make me kill a horde of ghouls since everyone can become one, or make me fight a raider in power armor since FO4 has a lot of those, not a dang deathclaw

[magic briar]

I remember when I was a wee lass playing Fo3 and getting power armor, and then not being able to wear it. immense sadness

[wet turtle]

well, the second city you visit (usualyl) got a raider in power armor ready to snipe you with a fatman, does that count? ^^'

[grave pilot]

The design intention, from my point of view, is to introduce the player to early on concepts. A. Power Armor, you get handed a very low-tier set, and not even a complete or fully intact one. B. A minigun with a limited amount of bullets. And C. A creature reknowned for its deadly encounter value, but still able to be faced.

[slate moss]

See the shift of having the training exist to go from tiers of armour makes sense, esspecially since your character is an alaska vet. Or a lawyer and we all know lawyers work in power shelled of unholy death

[grave pilot]

Well, you didn't need training as a simple Vault Dweller or Tribal either.

[magic briar]

and we all know lawyers work in power shells of unholy death
kek

[safe shell]

having a horde of ghouls pop out of the sewer would've been better imo, shows the new ghoul design while still letting deathclaws be OP murder machines in other areas

[quasi sentinel]

yep

[wet turtle]

it was a good encounter, it just after playing for a thousand hours and Atom know how many time, it become a meaningless scenario. but that normal at that point lol

[magic briar]

fo4 ghouls are terrifying

[quasi sentinel]

or they could like create something new

[grave pilot]

They created plenty of new things for F4.

[nova quarry]

The design intention basically threw a lot the game has to offer to the player at the same time. Deathclaw fights, power armour & big guns. All within 40 minutes of play.

[magic briar]

they could have just let me shoot Preston Garvey in the head, that would make me feel a lot more accomplished than killing a deathclaw every run. lol

[grave pilot]

Repurposing things that are iconic or still need to exist aren't typically bad.

[quasi sentinel]

mfs just want one thing, and it is to kill everyone

[magic briar]

Nah, Im a charisma main

I just like the option, and hate preston.

[grave pilot]

In fairness, Thomas, that's sort of how it all worked in 3 and New Vegas as well. Should you get the 3 GOTY or the NV ultimate edition, you're immediately given skill checks, intense dialogue conversations, pointed out where to go, with a range of areas ranging from insanely hard to pretty safe, and so on.

[wet turtle]

most of the fanbase seem to worship power armor and big gun, with that in mind, they knew their playerbase

[magic briar]

also the fact its impossible to be "evil" in FO4 really limits the replayability for me.

[grave pilot]

Not to mention NV's added complications of introducing you to about 15 things in 5 minutes.

Where F3 more confined you to the Vault for the first missions.

[quasi sentinel]

f3's intro is incredibly bad

[grave pilot]

It's linear, but far from bad.

[wet turtle]

i got more annoyed by the baby quest than the optional deathclaw scene to be honest

[maiden abyss]

theres good parts of it and bad parts of it

[quasi sentinel]

throwing the player out into the world like in fnv and f76 is better in my opinion

[nova quarry]

Those are core game mechanics and it feeds it to you naturally. It doesn't just throw you into a single encounter with two of the main trademarks of the franchise.

[maiden abyss]

i like the fo3 intro, but it does get tedious

[magic briar]

I love fo3 but the opening is awful yeah

[maiden abyss]

especially on repeat playthrus

[nova quarry]

The vault in F3 was so tedious, 30 minute long tutorials really aren't needed.

[wet turtle]

one make me sit thought a bible lesson i can't skip, the other allow me to get into a fight or ignore it and go elsewhere

[grave pilot]

Roleplaying and fighting, I agree. But NV adds the complications of traits, hardcore mode, ammunition subtypes, ammunition benches, so on and so forth.

[nova quarry]

I'd rather play the actual game and learn as time goes on.

[quasi sentinel]

^

[grave pilot]

Once you leave the Vault in 3, you simply see an Enclave Eyebot, and maybe a BoS Outcast patrol.

[slate moss]

Arguably i can see the need for it though it was executed poorly.

[magic briar]

when I first played NV i was overwhelmed by the 87 weapons, armor sets and radio signals the DLC pukes all over you within the first 30 seconds lol

[nova quarry]

Aye the DLC items were very poorly implemented

[nova quarry]

After 30 minutes of babies first game.

[wet turtle]

if you where lucky, skilled enough, you can basically go fetch some op weapon and armor in the divide and return to the wasteland and break the game, or operation anchorage at lvl 5 for same effect

[grave pilot]

You play as a child, yes, but it also offers a lot of roleplaying and narrative value intrinsic to F3.

[magic briar]

"Ah, so this is it. Fallout N-" GRENADE LAUNCHER ADDED. "what." THROWING SPEARS ADDED. "hol up"

why does the courier have these things lmao

[nova quarry]

Between 30 minutes of a forced tutorial/prologue which spoon feeds you mechanics and poor storytelling. And telling someone the basics of gameplay before letting them loose into the world.

[grave pilot]

Where New Vegas sort of throws you into a long-existing war, with factions you don't know or have much reason to care about, and simply expects you to know everything immediately.

[nova quarry]

I know what I'd rather pick

[magic briar]

Yeah, it expects you to know everything. Thats why you can ask 90% of named NPCs what they know/think about every faction.

[grave pilot]

Sure, players have all sorts of routes to choose from, but simply criticizing it for not being the same is a bit much.

[wet turtle]

i like fallout 76's intro best, you got npc/robot talk to you but you are free to sit and listen/read subtitles or just sprint to the exit while looting everything not nailed down

[grave pilot]

Same with the notion of it being a poor story.

[magic briar]

the 76 intro is very cool

[slate moss]

Look just because hes a mailman doesnt mean he cant go postal

[magic briar]

Hey, I would sign his petition.

[nova quarry]

That kind of means the opposite...

[wet turtle]

or they can make more ''cinematic''/''railroady'' intro with cutscene and the like like fallout 3 did if it help the narrative, but allow to skip it entirely if you want

[magic briar]

Thats the point, thomas. its sarcasm. I was disagreeing with Sole Survivor.

[nova quarry]

It knows you know little, so you ask NPCs their thoughts/views on the matter to broaden your perception in the war

[magic briar]

[nova quarry]

Ah, can't be sure here lol

[magic briar]

yeye lol

[grave pilot]

You ask them, yes, in the same way you ask people things once you leave the Vault in 3.

Hence why I didn't quite understand why F3's opening is "poor storytelling", as compared to New Vegas, where you have some understanding of everything going on.

Being from the NCR and not having amnesia and all.

[nova quarry]

Do you not remember the 10 minute long intro video when starting a game, that has context for what is happening in the game?

[magic briar]

I don't think either are poor storytelling, I think both are just fine. The only problem I have with FO3's story as a whole is being forced to have family, same issue I have with FO4.

[nova quarry]

You can fortunately skip it, unlike the vault

[grave pilot]

Not what you said, Flames, what Thomas said.

[magic briar]

Right

[fossil glen]

Honestly that’s always been my biggest criticism with Bethesda games.

[grave pilot]

And I do, Thomas, but every Fallout has it. You still have the ability to ask.

[fossil glen]

The intros are so painfully, painfully long, except for Morrowind and 76.

[grave pilot]

Since your character has usually been isolated from the world, and knows nothing.

[wet turtle]

if i trust what ive read from forums, reddit and other fallout discord, it seem to boil down to be less ''railroading'' you with a backstory. in 3 you have a set father and your goal is to find him, while new vegas you're a wastelander doing delivery as a job and wanting revenge which is more open and allow the roleplayer side of player more freedom to headcannon whatever their character is/come from/want in life

[slate moss]

The idea of blank canvas, like you as a player know nothing of the courier, you know he got k o'd by a man in race flag cosplay and left for dead youre a blank slate able to put ones idea of a story on there, 3 youre rail roaded your origin story but in turn youre left with what do you do when you have freedom.

[wet turtle]

same thing but worse happened with fallout 4, where having a voiced character ''ruined'' their immersion

[nova quarry]

my critique was how FO3 forces you to play through this baby like tutorial at the start of the game which is unskippable. Not sure how that relates.

[grave pilot]

3 pings at once.

[frozen kayak]

Famous even outside the modding community amirite

[grave pilot]

Anyways, let me at least attempt to respond, since it seems we're on a specific discussion path.

[nova quarry]

voiced protag was just very poorly implemented.

[magic briar]

FO3 and 4 force you to be some sort of family member, which is the only thing that urks me a bit. NV youre just a freeballin courier who can form their own opinions and stories regarding family and friends. I can't play a solitary badass in FO4 because Im happily married with a child. Thats hella awkward.

[grave pilot]

That is typically the setup for certain stories, yes. Either with a motivation, typically of someone close to the protagonist, or something that happened to the protagonist.

[grave pilot]

It's certainly an option, the problem comes when you actually play through the game and get to know yourself and your background.

At a certain point, you're no longer a blank slate. You're a specific character who happened to get taken over by an outside force.

[magic briar]

And I love 4. I enjoy 4 as an action/adventure game shooter with a straight one-shot story, with very linear choices. Not an RPG.

[wet turtle]

well, family is dead. that the start of many badass's story

[grave pilot]

Similar to that one extraterrestrial game.

Can we name other video games here? Not sure.

[magic briar]

LOL just do it if its relevant to the conversation you wont be executed

[astral storm]

no

[nova quarry]

pretty much this. FO4 is one of the best action open world games/dungeon crawlers I've played

[slate moss]

That is a fair point but a player is ussaly given dialog options on this route. It becomes a concept of who you are v what you were which is something seen in kotor one of the best (and buggiest) rpgs around

[nova quarry]

Absolutely pony as an RPG though

[astral storm]

this channel is for Fallout: General only

[grave pilot]

Well, I relate to XCOM: The Bureau.

[magic briar]

Oh yeah, totally

[grave pilot]

Specifically, you play as a specific individual, who has a life and background. But when the game begins, you are no longer that character. You are the player.

[nova quarry]

man i don't think anybody will care as long as it relates to the conversation

[slate moss]

4 dies the moment you stop the main story or building settlements as moment just drops

[grave pilot]

If that makes sense.

And I was more focusing on the rules of the server. Since I believed it mentioned something about naming other copyrighted properties.

[wet turtle]

i mean, i roleplay my character and i can easily ignore anything i dont like from my backstory. i mean, i even roleplayed as a roving ghoul scavenger once in fallout 4 and not hearing any mention of shaun when advancing story

[grave pilot]

You can ignore it, but it still exists.

[wet turtle]

but some seem to have a harder time doing that

[grave pilot]

Like how the Courier is from the NCR. Or the Vault Dweller being from a Vault.

[wet turtle]

coming from a vault is like the basic fallout cliche at this point, it like having the brotherhood of steel, you know both will happen with near certainty

[astral storm]

wait the courier is from the ncr

[grave pilot]

Yes.

[magic briar]

Every fallout game/most rpg games in general suffer from that narrative dissonance. There's no reason the character in 4 would EVER abandon their main quest to go do some random bullshit for a farmer named Ted when his wife and son are still missing, just like theres no reason Boone in Novac should be abandoning his night shift protecting the town to go run off into the desert with a stranger he barely knows.

[grave pilot]

Around the Hub, specifically.

[nova quarry]

I thought he didn't actually come from the NCR, just he had settled there for a while, he travelled along a lot of the west coast.

[magic briar]

We ignore those things because the game is fun. and we, the player want to do them lol

[wet turtle]

i can see many reason for the helping ted in 4

[grave pilot]

"The Courier carried his/her delivery from southern NCR, toward the Hub. We intentionally left the Courier's origins and the exact nature of the initial transaction vague." - J.E. Sawyer

[astral storm]

but why would boone want to stay in novac when he could just be a badass companion

[grave pilot]

I misspoke. They may not be an NCR citizen, but they did originate from the NCR on their journey.

[astral storm]

yeah

[wet turtle]

like you need information on where to go next but ted will happily tell you everything in exchange for a service. or you starving and dont know what currency people use now but ted is willing to give some for free for help etc. we arent a terminator walking from vault to revenge, need pit stop along the way for various reason

[nova quarry]

So it still doesn't force an exact background for the character then?

[magic briar]

well, you get my meaning. Theres a ton of things we can do that wouldnt further our knowledge on shaun or benefit us. because its fun to do.

[slate moss]

Thats about it iirc there is a piece of dialouge that someone asks you if your from montana and thats as concrete as you get

[nova quarry]

Even then, as hard as it is. Developer notes outside of the game does not mean its canon

Like kirkbride & C0da

[grave pilot]

Well, no, it is canon.

And I have 0 idea who those two are.

[wet turtle]

only background forced on the courrier came mostly from lonesome road where you got a story involving the divide and how you ruined it with a delivery

[nova quarry]

So there's in game references clearly stating the courier is from the NCR?

[grave pilot]

Well, there's other elements.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Courier

Most are posted in this article.

[magic briar]

Finna play the courier as canologically responsible for delivering presents for santa clause

Get him a little elf hat, make him really short and green.

[slate moss]

Which makes sense as the only piece of content a player knows starting is the couroer is a subpar mailman

[magic briar]

Subpar mailman!? Theres a reason he spawns with a grenade launcher 😳 /s

[wet turtle]

i dont remember details but i think one of the delivery was to activate the nukes and that why the area got nuked/is a radioactive wasteland

[grave pilot]

The delivery was ED-E's clone.

[magic briar]

bro please i stll need to play the dlc spoiler tag that shi

[slate moss]

And the dude still got blasted

[grave pilot]

Well, what we know him as now, after he was rebuilt.

[magic briar]

[magic briar]

Lol true

[wet turtle]

sorry, dlc is a decade old now, spoiler tag arent really a thing for it anymore^^'

[maiden abyss]

tbh fnv would've been better if it DIDNT tell you about all the factions the moment u boot up the game

[magic briar]

irrelevant, Im two decades old, and people still dislike looking at me

[astral storm]

it was more realistic this way

[maiden abyss]

the way u know everything?a

[astral storm]

wait hold on

[maiden abyss]

after u got anmesisa?

[astral storm]

oh that intro

I forgot what happened in the intro I thought you were talking about the people of goodsprings telling you

[maiden abyss]

the intro where its like "here is everything about every major faction in the game"

it wouldve been better if u learned about the various factions from asking about themr

[nova quarry]

The intro was the 10 minute long slides narrated by God pearlman

[tepid flax]

Ah I miss the days of the Doc Mitchell exodus

[maiden abyss]

or even if they showed you, instead of telling you

[slate moss]

Blessed be pearlmen the best hellboy

[tepid flax]

Indeed bless the

[astral storm]

I didn't pay any attention to the intro and now I am glad

[maiden abyss]

good lol

[grave pilot]

The Courier doesn't have amnesia.

[wet turtle]

it mostly boiled down to, legion bad, ncr seem good™️ now get out there and learn more or something

[astral storm]

and I thought the sniper was going to be me

[wet turtle]

and also a sidenote on powder ganger since they the early bad guy faction you encounter

[maiden abyss]

yea he does, he doesnt remember the fact he set off a nuke by accident

[tepid flax]

True

[maiden abyss]

or if its not amnesisa its some kinda memory loss

[grave pilot]

That could be developer lack of foresight.

[maiden abyss]

which at that point its just semantics

[grave pilot]

But the Courier remembers every detail of their life, even after two shots in the head.

As stated by Joshua Sawyer.

[wet turtle]

i read the wiki, he brought a package with marking reminding him of the divide, then left, but package activated and detonated every nuke in the silos, killing everyone there except ulysse

[tepid flax]

So he wouldnt know then

[wet turtle]

just wonder how he never heard or felt any groundshake but anyway

[tepid flax]

Depends on where he went I guess

[wet turtle]

trusting media about north korea detonating nuke underground and how easy it is to spot, a couple silo filled with icbm probably make a lot of noise and groundshake even if you dont get proper mushroom cloud

[reef wren]

Okay

[wet turtle]

unless the thing activated days or weeks later so he was far away enough, then ok

[nova quarry]

well remember some of the warheads in the divide area are minuscule compared to irl nukes

[grave pilot]

They're not on their ICBM platforms.

[wet turtle]

fallout world always used smaller nuke to be honest, them prefering salting the earth and launching more than having fancy big bomb to hit more strategically

[tepid flax]

I wonder if there was a state that was just overlooked in America. No bombs at all.

Probably not though

[maiden abyss]

nah

the us would have to have been peppered by nukes

[wet turtle]

appalachia?

[maiden abyss]

if not youd have some place that is completely built up and expanded massively

[maiden abyss]

it got hit by fewer nukes, but still not 0p

[wet turtle]

maybe not a full state,not sure, but mostly got away scotch free

[maiden abyss]

plus you have the stuff the wastelanders did to nuke the scorchbeasts

[tepid flax]

Oh damn you right

[wet turtle]

well yes, we player nuked it now, but didnt really got hit by any warhead from china

[tepid flax]

I wonder if Wisconsin was nuked

[wet turtle]

closest i think is that factory in toxic valley that got destroyed and that why it filled with white ash

but never found that chemical factory, so probably is outside map boundary (?)

[maiden abyss]

it got nuked, but not by as many as other places in the US

[tepid flax]

Damn the one guy in Wisconsin died

Wisconsin man we will never forget you

[slate moss]

Bet hes cheesed

[tepid flax]

He took the nuke and became a god I would bet

[slate moss]

He is the puppet man

[tepid flax]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[inland nexus]

Hello everyone

[tepid flax]

Oh my its Arthur Morgan from hit game Read Dead Redemption 2, how its going?

[upper vine]

Trying to get into fallout games but don't know where to start, any recommendations?

[vagrant igloo]

I say that might depend on your age. It’s difficult to get into the 360/PS3 era games if you’re younger.

[valid stream]

I’d start with 3

[vagrant igloo]

I agree with Dinnee, if you can understand that it was a good game for its time.

[reef wren]

Yeah depends what you like, check out reviews or gameplay or something

[slate moss]

Depends on your taste in games like if you enjoy conventional isometric rpgs then start at 2 and go through. You enjoy multiplayer aspects go with 76 but if you like more modern 1st person rpgs nv or three are the best bets

[blazing cipher]

If you like RPGs, go with New Vegas. If you like shooters with story elements, go with 3 (don't mean this badly, I enjoyed 3). If you want a newer single player game, go with Fallout 4. If you want an MMO, go with Fallout 76.

[upper vine]

Alright thanks guys

[knotty lagoon]

Where's the Fallout Brotherhood of Steel channel? /s

[blazing cipher]

No prob

[knotty lagoon]

Here is an important question for you all, if you could have any Fallout creature as your pet, what would it be?

[slate moss]

Cazador if were talking mods cazaclaw

[knotty lagoon]

I would probably go for a Mole Rat (Fallout 3/NV Version)

[vagrant igloo]

Radsquirrel

[knotty lagoon]

A pet Cazador would be cool but you will kill the entire neighborhood

[slate moss]

Ehhh dont like my neighbors none

[knotty lagoon]

fair enough lol

[wet turtle]

i liked how molerat looked back in fallout 3/new vegas, found them cute. but now....nope

[knotty lagoon]

they look too much like a real Mole Rat

[quasi sentinel]

I would like to know why isnt there a new vegas channel

[knotty lagoon]

This is BGS, New Vegas wasnt a BGS game

[quasi sentinel]

Ohh my bad

[knotty lagoon]

its fine lol, I guess this is the channel if you wanna discuss NV

[quasi sentinel]

Epic

[wet turtle]

i understand the new look but they gone from oh i want one as a pet to shotgun bait

i'll probably take a robot instead of an animal for companion/pet honestly

[quasi sentinel]

What about dogmeat?

[wet turtle]

not a dog person. though i liked him in fallout 3 as a mine/super mutant bait

[knotty lagoon]

I feel like Dogmeat would be too easy

[wet turtle]

why i heard the ''you gained bad karma'' noise suddenly?

[blazing cipher]

Megasloth

[knotty lagoon]

its easy to go for a familiar animal as a pet

[blazing cipher]

Or Mothman

[wet turtle]

if i could pick a robot, i'd take either an assaultron or a protectron

like how cool and smart the first are and how goofy the second is

[knotty lagoon]

I'd probably go for a Robobrain

[knotty lagoon]

Megasloth is a cool one

[wet turtle]

i would find robobrain creepy with the brain thing

[knotty lagoon]

true, but I like the voice

and the arms remind me of the wacky inflatable arm flailing tube man

[wet turtle]

that why in automatron i gave those to a protectron. maximum sillyness mode engaged

[primal sage]

Sorry if someone asked this one before but I just joined so, but where's the fallout 1, 2, & New Vegas tabs?

[worldly void]

From what Im seeing, this server is specifically for games developed by the BGS and Zenimax family of games

[primal sage]

I can understand that, but I must say New Vegas at least was still apart of Bethesda, I believe they funded it, I just know whenever I load up New Vegas I see Bethesda at the start.

[wet turtle]

it was published by them and made with the engine/asset they created, but it was obsidian for everything basically

[worldly void]

Bethesda was involved for advice and help in working with the Gamebryo engine.
Which was nearly at it's end and transitioned to the Creation Engine in Skyrim onwards

[primal sage]

It just feels like their excluding the other games since this is the official one, be nice if there was at least a sub-category for them

[fossil lynx]

It's a little naive to think people wouldn't want to talk about it all the same.

[worldly void]

I don't see a Battlespire or Redguard chatroom

[primal sage]

wHerE iS mY fAlLouT brOthErhOod oF stEel

[wet turtle]

people talk about the lore of it in the lore channel, but the game itself a lot less

[primal sage]

But I'll stand with the point New Vegas, 2, & 1 should be a tab in the fallout category, they're still fallout games & canon so, & I guess to be fair Brotherhood of Steel

[feral carbon]

I was wondering about NV .. does Beth own the rights to that .. or wasn't that a different studio?

[worldly void]

Bethesda owns New Vegas technically.
Zenimax owns both studios.
Microsoft is above Zenimax

[feral carbon]

Was there a NV forum on beth.net? If not maybe there is some legalize reason ..??

[primal sage]

I mean... Microsoft now owns Obsidian which made New Vegas & as we all know own Bethesda which owns New Vegas so, makes sense for it to be here, I really can't see why it isn't, but I'm sure if we make enough noise the admins of this chat will add it

[random condor]

If it is anything like the forums, we might get a response about it in about 6 months.....

[past iris]

Well this is a BGS server. BGS didn't make new vegas, obsidian did. it was just published by Bethesda/zenimax. I wouldn't mind a new vegas channel but I get why it's not here

[clear tendon]

It is a ten year old game after all. Besides knowing NV it'll dominate gwneric fallout discussion as is

[past iris]

Tbf fallout 3 is 13 years old lol

[inland nexus]

What is your favorite fallout game mine is fallout big iron

[cunning fog]

I've been playing fallout NV for a while now but for some reason whenever I enter the legions tent area where you actually go to Caesar, I get killed immediately. I'm wearing their faction armor and I have the mark of Caesar. I really don't know why it's happening and I don't know if I can beat the game I want to without talking to him.

[drifting owl]

I would like to know why this discord server does not have special chats for other parts of Fallout?

[hidden bone]

because they just made it and haven't done anything with it yet? /shrug

[drifting owl]

We need to move everything as soon as possible!

[waxen torrent]

https://bethesda.net/community/category/17/fallout-new-vegas?language[]=en

[night sandal]

I like it that this discord is BGS only. No NV, no ESO. It makes sense to me. Even better is ignoring the spinoff TES games, that are best forgotten anyway

[quasi sentinel]

Why is New vegas not included a good thing?

[clear tendon]

Obsidian kinda mega borked various systems like acoustic spaces and unfortunately disguises as well, so it may be a script that turns them hostile firing off because they don't detect you as playerfaction

[clear tendon]

Tryna shut down NV talk is a bad take, it's a widely beloved Fallout title and it is constantly referenced by the mainline games.

Spin off =/= non canon

[night sandal]

Wot? Who said anything about shutting down talk or being non canon? This is the BGS discord, which means we have channels for BGS games. NV is not a BGS title so no channel for it.

If you want to have a Bethesda (Publisher) discord where you have NV, ESO, Doom channels, more power to ya. But they don't belong in the BGS discord

[quasi sentinel]

Which is

bad

[somber hemlock]

I think, we can easily talk about NV in #fallout-general-chat and #fallout-lore cause it's not a BGS game but it's a Fallout canon game.
Not necessary to have a entire channel about... (or you need also to have a channel for F1, F2, F Tactics, F BoS, etc...)

[quaint shore]

Incredibly bad take, to be honest. A Discord for all Fallout games, since BGS owns the franchise lock, stock, barrel, and gunner 😉

[solar stag]

fallout NV needs its own chat and mods channels just like the other games. not having it reinforces that dumb "hurr durr todd hate new vegas cuz new vegas good" take that people have.

[somber hemlock]

That's a good point. If it could also stop this false rumor that Bethesda has not paid obsidian ... 😔

[dim orchid]

Could pop it in the server suggestions?

[reef wren]

.?

[tepid magnet]

I know this was from a couple of hours ago except can someone expand on what this person means?

[elder inlet]

I imagine it's from the lost bonus that hinged on Metacritic score, and anti-beth grumbling turned it into not having paid at all

[somber hemlock]

Yep! Some haters said that, on twitter.

[clear tendon]

wild, especially when Sawyer, Avellone and Urquhart have all gone on the record as saying they should have been more prolific in fixing their own bugs, and not set the scale so grand that they had to cut back some content.

[quaint shore]

QA is primarily the domain of the publisher, though.

Sawyer did say that they should have changed the scope, and definitely not cut the Legion rear areas/cities.

[lyric dove]

I believe that if they decided to create a Legion rear areas DLC it would sell well.

[quaint shore]

Hey Ant!

[leaden tree]

I wonder what happened back west after the events of New Vegas.

[tepid magnet]

I wish we could learn what ending is canon

unless they pull a fallout daggerfall and ALL of them are canon bum bum buuum

[lyric dove]

Hello!

Or they can make multiple endings partly canon.

🤷

[meager socket]

Ah yes, #fallout-3-chat #fallout-4-chat #fallout-76-chat the full collection

[hallow kayak]

Its a BGS server. Those are the games they made.

[tepid magnet]

you could always just use fallout general chat as like... y'know... a fallout general chat

[meager socket]

Just thought its a bit funny

[dim orchid]

Anyone here interested in the new Modiphius 2d20 ttrpg?

[tepid magnet]

I have absolutely no idea what that means

[lyric dove]

I think its the boardgame

[tepid magnet]

wow I honestly didn't think people played that

[hallow kayak]

Its a tabletop system that just got released

[dim orchid]

It honestly looks pretty good if you’re into non-computer role playing games

[balmy nexus]

All of you are sleeping on Fallout Tactics: Warfare

[dim orchid]

Huh?

[balmy nexus]

It was a war game released with Fallout Tactics

It didn’t have minis, so you kinda had to do that bit yourself. But IIRC it plays like warhammer

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_Warfare

[dim orchid]

Ahh right, think Modiphius May have made a new version of that as well then 👍

[balmy nexus]

Fallout: Warfare walked so Wasteland Warfare could run

[elfin forge]

wow still no NV chat lol

[past iris]

NV isn't a BGS game

[random condor]

Um, this is Bethesda official discord, Bethesda didn't actually create NV.

[elfin forge]

i mean its their IP and theyre aware of the massive fandom. its a discord not like their website taking ownership over something. I feel having a chat for a beloved game isnt hard but purposefully left out

[valid stream]

you can still talk about NV though

[sullen portal]

Given most people use TTW, it can probably fit into 3's chat just fine

[near fog]

No new Vegas channel? Lameeeee

[trail bloom]

NV ain't a BGS game though

[errant silo]

I need more Freestate items… I want to have a free state camp!

We need a new map for NW I know every nook and cranny of those maps

[sage goblet]

i need more Railroad items since i could basically make a Raider Railroad camp in 76 and tie it together with 4 (which is set way later in the timeline)

[warm valley]

Who else is enjoying Fallout 2D20 from Modiphius??? Love being able to being official Fallout to the table without house ruling stat blocks and encounters!!!

[wet turtle]

fallout d&d? that is official?

[patent lily]

What's the best place to get Fallout NV from? I hear the steam version is broken so does that mean the one on GOG is patched for work with modern PCs?

[south drift]

yup, just released recently. though it's obviously not the same system as d&d

[wet turtle]

2d20 sound weird, i,m used to my dice to be single like me /s

[bold moth]

We run the 2d20 as a system for use in 76

Our group uses it to basically do anything that you can't do in the game itself and for anything between player characters.

[lone kiln]

I hear the gog version is better but I have the steam version. I think what it really comes down to is an older game on newer hardware type deal that causes Major differences my laptop has a GTX 1050 as a GPU but my friend has a rtx 2070 super the gog version work's better for some weird reason I have absolutely no idea what it could be other than hardware

[mint granite]

Lmao you are using a nuclear reactor to power a microwave