skyrim-se-mods

[uncut sundial]

Would this be a feedback thing on creations or something else?

[teal moat]

Actually first, please see the steps in this article and let me know if they help, as this appears to be the issue judging from your screenshot: https://help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/64086

[uncut sundial]

Ok dumb question, how am I supposed to manually remove/ turn off mods if I can't get to them in the 1st place ?

[teal moat]

You can go to "Library" at https://creations.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/library and unsubscribe. We recommend favoriting before doing that so that you can easily find them after you fix the issue.

[uncut sundial]

Now my screen is frozen at the press any button page

[teal moat]

Even after restarting the game?

[uncut sundial]

Gotta restart my console, I think the constant 'every 3 minute' crashes that fallout 4 has been putting me through has broken something on my X1

Only Bethesda games that haven't betrayed me like that are the dishonored games, evil within 1 and 2, and all the DOOM games

[sonic fern]

So games only published and not made by bethesda i see

[uncut sundial]

Great

I'm gonna have a bowl of cereal while I wait for this thing to unfreeze

[hot parrot]

My save loaded like this

[restive mica]

No patch for any of this till next year is pretty wild, they made people wait like a week saying it was only maintenance, which I was fine with, then they release the paid mods update which broke a bunch of stuff and has made it borderline impossible for people mod their game without wiping the reserve space 18 times and having their load orders get jumbled up, crashing and whatnot, and they're gonna just leave it this way for about a month, sick 👍

[hot parrot]

Not to mention disabling or deleting mods doesn't work for some as well

[restive mica]

The ability to even move any of my mods at all broke and I gave up all together till a patch came around, which I figured must be coming soon, guess not lol

[hot parrot]

Pretty crazy, not really worth playing at this point, especially if games and saves load like mine did

[restive mica]

I was really looking forward to playing Skyrim over the holidays, haven't played in 3 years and I was hyped to put together a load order and revisit it, but nope, maybe I'll check out cyberpunk 2.0, I still haven't touched it yet

This whole update should've waited till next year so they would be around to patch things up

[uncut sundial]

I've been messing with my mod load out on the website you gave but the still isn't popping up with the option to see CC and Mods

[teal moat]

In that case, you may want to try reinstalling the game.

[uncut sundial]

Attempting now

Just have to wait 30 hours according to the timer

[sonic fern]

Ive cut my favorites down from 137 pages to 53. Im still working back from the highest number and im on page 36. So 35 more pages to go

I still cannot believe that they decided to shove every mod i have ever used and every mod i have ever favorited into this list.

I was going to play The Finals for a few rounds but this is irritating me to much for me not to stay focused on it till its done

[uncut sundial]

I dont think my list is accurate, I remember having WAY more than 2 pages

[sonic fern]

I went from 680 favorites to almost 3k favorites

[uncut sundial]

Didn't work, still not showing CC and mods

[teal moat]

I see, in that case, which console are you playing on?

[uncut sundial]

Xbox one

[teal moat]

Thank you. This issue type should be good, just make sure to be descriptive of the issue and let them know all of the steps you have tried: https://help.bethesda.net/#en/home/product/373/skyrimcat/8/platform/1/techissuetype/877/creationclub/undefined/modanswer/continuetosubmitticket

[cold igloo]

anyone here have experience making skill trees for CSF and would be willing to answer noob questions before i get too deep and realize what i want isn't possible?

i guess i'll just leave the question here and hope: is it possible to make 2+ skill trees in 1 skydome through CSF?

[young folio]

i just found out about enbs but the ones that i find all make my fps 60 even with the fps unlocked in the ini so i dont think my pc can handle those, anyone know any good ones that dont do that or do they all do it

[tight hull]

for the problem with the dissaperaring creations,there is ew xbox setting you could try and change for creations,it is found in settings/account/privacy and online safety/xbox privacy/game content there are 3 setting options and a custom option (in xbox privacy) i found it in custom.when in game content you will see a tab with community creations (it is the third tab) you need to set the xbox tab too everyone

[misty sage]

where do we ask for increased mod capacity?

[pulsar wing]

#1179849047444570242 message

[young folio]

nvm then

[next moon]

Anyone know any good horse farm mods, I have a ton of horse mods but no where to put them😂

[solar bloom]

Would anyone be willing to port (with permission of course) this mod, or at least one just like it, to PS4?

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/88475

[pulsar wing]

I see that you messaged the author in the comments section and they said they don't know how to port it to PS4; just tell them the following:

1. Load it up into the SSE Creation Kit.
2. Save it.
3. Log in to Bethesda.net via the Creation Kit (it's in the File menu).
4. Upload it.

It's a fairly straightforward process and the mod is a single plugin file with a few global variable and settings tweaks so it would work on it as-is as far as I know.

I don't port other people's mods so I won't be helping with that, but as the author themself expressed a desire to do it they'd be the best person for the job.

[red jolt]

Anyone know how to change a hkx file animation speed?

[tight hull]

you could try this mod https://creations.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/details/32498/weapons_price_patch_PS4

[solar bloom]

Thanks for that! I've messaged the mod's author again on Nexus. (fingers crossed) 🤞

[uncut sundial]

That worked, I'm guessing mods are lazily mixed in here somewhere too right?

[tight hull]

i think mod support is going to be added to alot more games

[tight hull]

the mod catagory and cc and the new paid mods have all been put into the one store called creations

[uncut sundial]

Fun times now I just gotta remove all these bookmarked mods that I've never touched

[fringe kindle]

Anybody know how to access the wip mods since they dont show up in library if bookmarked from bethnet

[sonic fern]

You don't

[pulsar wing]

np

[bold timber]

load order got shuffled.. what an annoying bug..

[sonic fern]

It happens when you update mods from what ive seen

[mild shoal]

Isn't there an add on for the alternate start mod on xbox that adds new options? I've searched but I can't find it. Anyone know what it's called?

[sonic fern]

There was but its been removed. A few still remain

[mild shoal]

Dang, alright. Thank you

[sonic fern]

It used to be New Beginnings

There is still
Dealing with Another Life
I used to be a dungeon boss like you
Alternate Start - the last dwemer
Child of coldharbour - Alternate start add-on

And some others i cant recall rn

@mild shoal

[mild shoal]

Dealing with another life looks like the best for what I'm trying to achieve

[sonic fern]

Yeah it has a lot of "coming of age" starts where your just a late teen and such

[mild shoal]

Works for me! Appreciate it 😁

[sonic fern]

Yeah i wanted to also use New Beginnings too but the MA pulled it thanks to bethesda going payed mods again

[mild shoal]

The Spanish translation is still up though haha. I find that funny

[sonic fern]

Because the ma didnt port the translations, only the mod itself. It was his account

[mild shoal]

Big F

[sonic fern]

Yup

Sad time my furry friend, sad times. Not the first time it has happened tho. So its to be expected. Sucks the only mod i used of his got pulled tho.

[mild shoal]

It was a good mod tbh. But the one you recommend will work best for my characters backstory, so I appreciate the recommendation ^^

[sonic fern]

If you need ui mods i got a whole selection lol

Ones that function post update

[fringe kindle]

I need one that disables the ui for screenshots

[mild shoal]

I'm currently using the untarnished ui (devils edit 2). Any lighting mods you recommend though? The one I'm using now (relight my skyrim) is a tad dark in interiors

[sonic fern]

I know of one i just gotta find it

One of my Bundles has one that does it and i know there is a stand-alone one floating around

[sonic fern]

Interiors or exteriors? I personally use ELFX but it can br a little dark. There is RLO and ELE are good alternatives. A lot of lighting mods like to make the lighting more realistic

[mild shoal]

I'll stick with my current one ig. I'm sure I can use the in game menu to brighten interiors

[sonic fern]

The mod is called Hide UI. I know it is apart of the Reconciliation gameplay bundle. I think there should be a standalone version so im looking for it

It might not be available standalone. You will need the Reconciliation qol updated and Reconciliation gameplay to get it

[amber furnace]

You can also find it here : https://creations.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/details/18528/Eye_of_Omen

[sage echo]

Is anyone using Version Control for CK? If so, are you using it without CK Fixes and is it giving an error now that the CK is updated?

[grand matrix]

Had anyone noticed freezes with music playing when using the fishing cc content in Riverwood? Had to close in task manager twice

[wintry fog]

back again are pc mods still freezing and crashing game and unstailling?

[uncut sundial]

Heres something weird, I turn on a mod and it turns on additional mods that are exactly like it, but it won't let me delete the extras from my load out or turn them off without effecting the one I want to keep

And I'd I exit out to let the loadout save it'll try to turn the extras back on, and I doubt that's safe

Playing with 2 version of guard armor replacer and 2 versions of levelers tower might kill my xbox off faster than fallout 4 was doing it

[versed ruin]

Is there a good performance mod for ps4?

[austere sundial]

insignificant object remover

[echo pivot]

Would a Font replacer mod count as a UI replacer? And screw up my load order

[thick fulcrum]

Probably not. And who knows. Maybe.

[azure panther]

It won’t, I use font mods and they’re fine

[terse shard]

You can port a mod to console (Bnet) with just your PC. No need to own a console yourself. It sounds like the mod you mention would not be allowed on PS but should be fine on Xbox as long as it meets the Bnet terms of service (nudity and perms being the big show stoppers). I’m not a porter but I think the basic idea is you use the CK to publish the mod to Bnet.

[hexed notch]

as long as it doesnt do anything but replacing the font, it should not

[maiden mulch]

Its a ghost mod i have that bug rn, just keep both mods together next to eachother and you will be fine, to fix you gotta clear reserve space but you lose all your mods

[mild shoal]

Question about vokrii. Do the unarmed perks affect heavy armor gauntlets? Or just the light armor ones?

[frank forum]

Am I unable to use UI mods like Nordic UI? And if so what are so replacements till the load order problem is fixed

[fringe kindle]

Why get rid of the wip section when the entire point is for people to test the mods?

[hexed notch]

uh? you sure you are replying to the right comment?

[fringe kindle]

No

[hexed notch]

ok

[dire crypt]

Hi all. Guys, here's a question. I want to buy Starfield Xbox and I have 5 days of vacation, but I’m afraid to spoil the impression due to the lack of Russian localization. Is it worth waiting for at least Russian subtitles? Thanks for the answer.

P.S. I don’t want to download a hacked version with translation from a torrent to PC.

[umbral stone]

is there a way to use the paid cc content in my mo2 to use when modding or is that not possible

[pulsar wing]

If you mean installing it into MO2, yes, you can do that. Just pack the ones you want to do that with into their own archive then drag and drop it onto the window like any other mod.

[gleaming vigil]

I was going to mod Skyrim today, but since i have to wait for my slow ass internet to download a bunch of game files, I guess Ill review every Bethesda game I own on Steam, for the first time ever, in my life

I spent over a year on this LO, and WAS very much enjoying it, thanks for that cute little steam update, that changed my launch settings

[covert junco]

@pine crown I noticed the [XB1] version of Bee Hives got removed from BethNet, any reason why?

[dark nova]

It could be that quite a few mod authors removed their mods because of the changes with the creations.

[covert junco]

It’s not

[dark nova]

Then I have no idea

[covert junco]

All his stuff is still up, it’s just that mod and technically it’s still up too, just as the dual platform version.

Well, that’s why I asked Arthmoor. I wouldn’t expect anyone else to know

[sonic fern]

Its easier to maintain a single mod then doing two of the same mod

[covert junco]

Thanks

But what I’m more wondering is, will the same happen to all the others

[sonic fern]

Depends on the MA.

[covert junco]

I’m only talking Arthmoor mods

[raw bluff]

I believe he said on AFK that some of his mods needed updating and he's going through them one-by-one. Might be down till the update is ready.

[covert junco]

Most MA’s don’t have a dual platform version of their ports. Seems only he does

[winged goblet]

Skse64 isn’t updated for current steam version of Skyrim sadly

[sonic fern]

Because he is one of the like 7 who ported his own mods and didnt have some one else do it

[thick fulcrum]

The most recent syrim se version is 1.6.1130
The most recent skse version is for that version

[pine crown]

Eventually I'd like to have everything consolidated to one page per PC/XB1 mod. The XB1 copies added to the previously PC-only pages are the same copies.
Part of the problem with being stuck having a secondary page is that people report they end up with 2 listings for the exact same content in their load orders.

[sonic fern]

Apparently it is a problem. And it isnt even one i suffer from.

[covert junco]

I get it. What’s happening now is, when I download the dual platform version, the xb1 version also downloads, even though it seems it was deleted

[pine crown]

That sounds like a bug in the system then.

[sonic fern]

It is

[covert junco]

It is

[covert junco]

Any chance the [xb1] version of Bee Hives reappears?

[pine crown]

It's not gone. It's on the dual-platform page. Which is where I want things to migrate over the long term because it's easier to update one page than 2 pages.

[sonic fern]

If the mod exsists on both. It means its functionality the same. you dont need the one marked xb1 anymore

[covert junco]

Yes, I know

[covert junco]

So you’re saying I should replace all your xb1 versions with the dual platform ones now? That was the crux of my quandary

[sonic fern]

Yes. Tho not mid playthrough

[pine crown]

It wouldn't matter mid-playthrough. They're identical content to the single platform pages.
The game shouldn't even noticed you switched.

[sonic fern]

But your load order will

And screw up and its a pain in the backside to fight the load order

[safe vault]

Someone know when true hud gets updated?

Is the author still active?

[safe vault]

Thanks for your mods, they are the best 😄👍

[covert junco]

True but until Bethesda fixes the identical esp duplicate download bug, anyone who has been using the [xb1] versions will have issues when trying to download the dual platform ones. My plea is do not remove those until Bethesda fixes this

If they ever do…

[sonic fern]

Well if you remove the xb1 version they cant possibly download a duplicate if there is only one version on there website

[covert junco]

Well, I’m telling you it happened

[sonic fern]

I know it happens. Not doubting it. Just saying the bug wouldn't show up if only one version was available.

[covert junco]

Yeah if it were actually deleted and maybe not hidden? When I downloaded the dual platform, it also downloaded the other one, which had no picture and just said beehives.esp

[sonic fern]

Oh wow

[deep inlet]

this only happened to me when i downloaded USSEP, realised i downloaded the Xbox exclusive one, then deleted and switched to the multi-platform one.

after seeing the old one still in my LO, just deleted it again and had no issues since.

though rn the biggest issue is not being able to download big mods cuz you need 2x the damn size

[covert junco]

So I had it happen with the new Rec USSEP patch but deleting the old one would wipe the new one too

[deep inlet]

that's strange

[covert junco]

Somehow I sorted it out, but I could not tell you how 😆

[pine crown]

A lot of this sounds like caching issues to me. Usually caching issues fade out over time.

[covert junco]

Hope so!

[maiden mulch]

@pine crown hey not sure if anyone asked but will you bundle your cities, towns and village mods by any chance?

[terse shard]

Before BGS announced the rules that wouldn’t allow current mods to be used as a paid creation I was waiting for the Arthmoor village bundle to be one of the first releases….one I would actually pay for….but alas.

But with the mod number limit being lifted on Xbox maybe it’s not such a big deal anymore….

[sonic fern]

The 5gb is why i dont use retexture mods. I wish they didnt take up space or an esp file

[deep inlet]

still never actually tried those, recommended i take it?

[terse shard]

I like them. Mostly the ones that just add things to vanilla villages that should have always been there. They are vanilla plus before vanilla plus was ever a thing. The new villages are ok. Only one I really like is Oakwood.

[covert junco]

Most are pretty well done and fit into the game pretty seamlessly. Oakwood and Telengard are some of the better ones.

Helarchen Creek needs some love, it’s woefully isolated and pretty dull on the outside but has a lot of potential

So yeah, I now gotta go figure out how bad my LO is going to break as I try to replace all the [XB1] Arthmoor mods with the dual platform versions…

Living my best life over here

[maiden mulch]

Its a bigger deal now for massive LOs where they get shuffled and you gotta go up and down again and again to reorganise

[echo pivot]

Any chance of creations sale?

[deep inlet]

was pinged but the message got deleted?

[mild shoal]

That was me, sorry. Wanted to thank you for porting New Beginnings ^^'

[deep inlet]

[amber gorge]

Does anyone know why a load order would keep re arranging itself drastically? Like bottom half is now on the top half kinda thing?

[chilly storm]

Need a little help. There is a patch for Capital Whiterun Expansion and JK Skyrim on Beth net, but not any for Capital Windhelm Expansion and JK Skyrim, only one for JK Windhelm exterior. There is a patch with open perms on Capital Windhelm Expansion main page. How to port it? Anyone who may help me do it?

[terse shard]

New feature of the new and improved Bnet UI it seems.

[grim steppe]

hello....I'm a bit new to skyrim and was looking for a mod that will let me craft butter? The one I found is from 2016 and doesn't work...most likely due to updates...

[hexed notch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/67776
Try that? I am assuming thqt thats what you want

fair warning, if you havent modded ever before and dont have skse set up etc then this may feel like a bit of a rabbithole for you lol

[grim steppe]

thanks....I have a little bit of experiance, though I'm no expert...I do have the script extender installed, and I'm using Vortex to manage everything...thanks for the link...I appreciate the lead.

[hexed notch]

np if you have skse already installed then the rest lf thr requirements should be trivial.

[grim steppe]

nice...

[hollow shell]

I hate the new menu. It's a lot worse.

There is no W. I. P. It seems like it's more regulated than before, and little to no one liked the creation club so why merge them?

[sonic fern]

Because no one really liked it they gotta merge them to make it more visible.

But honestly its prolly because theybarnt doing CC stuff anymore and future proofing it

[hollow shell]

It might also be because of Starfield. They might be going for more parity between the two.

[echo trellis]

Hello guys. I’m getting back into Skyrim after a while and I was wondering if someone was around to help me figure out the load order for some of my mods? I know where a lot of them go, but there are some that I can’t remember. Like for example, the “camping extended“. I don’t know which category this falls under in the load order.

[sonic fern]

You got access to Campfire and your using cc content

[echo trellis]

Also, when did Bethesda combine the creation club and mods into the same area?

[sonic fern]

Like a week or two ago. Whole place was on fire

Make sure you use an updated ui mod if you happen to use them. Or the creations menu breaks and shoes the old ui

#1184505392223490149

[echo trellis]

I use both. I have Lucian and I have his campfire patch for it. That gives him 29 new dialogue.

[sonic fern]

Some mods like Reconciliation have been updated and make sure you only use the new updated version instead of the old one as it can cause the same problems

[echo trellis]

Is that available on Xbox?

[sonic fern]

Yes every listed ui mod is available on xbox. Since xbox is the platform I use and no one has submitted any pc ui mods that are functional yet.

[echo trellis]

So is campfire extended a UI mod?

[terse shard]

I usually put Anything that modifies CC up high. Foundations section in LLO just below any master files.

[sonic fern]

No. Thats like a Gameplay or system changes style mod.

Im just saying since your coming back and not aware of the new problems i dont want you to accidentally break your game if you install an old ui mod

Game wont break but the mod menu will

[echo trellis]

Would placing any mods that altar CC content be good underneath the unofficial Skyrim creation club mod?

[sonic fern]

Yeah that should be fine

[terse shard]

Yea that’s where they go as the USCCP is a master file.

[echo trellis]

Yeah, I never really messed with you UI mods. About the only one I ever did was the mod that gave the text responses different font and color. Can’t remember the name of it off the top of my head though. However, that was on the PC. Which I no longer have so I’m using Xbox.

[echo trellis]

OK thanks.

Why is the slow mode in this channel 1 minute? Also, where do I place adoption mods? Like the “Adopt Aventus Artino”.

This is the structure I follow, so just tell me where in the structure the adoptions go, Please and thank you.

Bug fixes (e.g. Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch)
Structure and UI Mods;
Overhauls (e.g. Campfire and Frostfall)
Mission and content correction (e.g. Cutting Room Floor)
Difficulty/level list mods
Race mods
Perk mods
UI mods
Cheat mods
Missions/Quests;
Environmental mods;
Global mesh mods (e.g. SMIM)
Weather/lighting mods
Foliage mods
Sound mods
Buildings;
Mods that add distributed or worldwide content (Dolmen Ruins or Oblivion Gates)
Mods that add or expand settlements
Mods that add individual buildings
Mods that modify building interiors
Items;
Item packs
Individual items
Gameplay;
AI mods (e.g. Immersive Citizens)
Robust gameplay changes (e.g. Marriage All, Alternate Start)
Expanded armor (e.g. Magic Books, Pouches)
Crafting mods
Other gameplay mods (e.g. Rich Merchants, Faster Greatswords)
NPCs;
Overhauls (e.g. Diverse Dragons)
Populated series
Other additions
Appearance mods;
Hairdo mods
Adorable Females
Face mods
Body mesh mods (e.g. Seraphim, Beautiful Mistresses, Dimon99 and Maevan2 Female body)
Natural Eyes
Other appearance mods
Texture mods;
Patches;
Patches for earlier mods (e.g. the Apocalypse-Ordinator Compatibility Patch)
Patches that alter content
Patches that disable content or purport to improve performance
Mods that mod creators request should appear last (e.g. Go Away Clouds!).

[sonic fern]

I put them with dialog mods myself but that's personal preference

Also the 150 mod limit is gone

My lo is not "correct" tho so take what i say with a grain of salt when it comes to skyrim and where to put mods

[echo trellis]

The mod limit is an an issue on the Xbox as unfortunately, we’re only allowed 5 GB worth of mods.

Any idea where “immersive movement” goes? I’m thinking that’s an AI mod right?

[sonic fern]

Id say it firs in with gameplay since ai os like Immersive Citizens or ai overhaul or better combat ai

While Immersive movement is more like a modification on how your character moves

Yeah 5gb is limiting but ive managed to squeeze 248 mods into my lo with some space for more

While having replaced most every armor, weapon and game mechanic in the game

[echo trellis]

Right the first thing loaded under gameplay in the structure I’m using is AI

Yeah, but I also add on expansions to the world like Falskaar and Moon and Stars which is a lot of space.

[sonic fern]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PzesTTtG-4nVdPFrGsSDYjC8VUbYKI-Yiv1h6YfSv_Y/edit?usp=drivesdk

My load order. I have a couple extra mods then whats listed but have them disabled so as not to get in the way of my current playthrough

Another thing to note. If you disable a mod mid playthrough you will not be able load the save. It just gets stuck in infinite loading

My structure of where i list mods is far from correct mind you. So please do not follow my LO example. Ive just been using it for so many years now i refuse to fix it

[echo trellis]

And don’t even get me started on Beyond Skyrim: Bruma. Four parts with over 1 maybe 1.5 gigs.

[sonic fern]

Yeah but it has so much. Its a whole new detailed world space with many quests, voiced dialog, armors and weapons

[echo trellis]

And you have no issues with playing the game? No crashes or anything?

[sonic fern]

New enemy types, food and so on.

I crash every now and then but thats normal for a 248 mod load order with the number of changes i have made to every system

[echo trellis]

Yeah, but my point is I cannot get anywhere close to that many mods when I use all these space eaters. BTW, why is my slow mode one minute in this room? It’s like 15 seconds in Starfield rooms.

[sonic fern]

Because all of the skyrim chats were on fire after the update while everyone was trying to figure out what does and doesnt work

And then the mods left it this way. It was at one point a 5min timer in skyrim general

[hexed notch]

thats stable? i am noticing quite a few mods where id expect patches needed but there are none

[sonic fern]

But yeah I understand given how many quest mods and new worldspaces you use. I am quite satisfied just changing everything in the base game. I do have the people of skyrim ae v10 so i get some new places to explore and the great cities towns and villiages adds some new towns. But generally i like to play it like im a hunter who stumbles upon dungeons and explores and so on

[sonic fern]

I have looked for patches for any incompatibilities and have only found the ones I use. Back when we were locked to 150 i used far less patches because i just let whatever was lower overwrite whatever i needed it to.

My game crashes under weird circumstances now. Like getting poisoned and then like frozen but also having the wildcat injury take place during it while im like paralized on the floor and suddenly ctd.

Or i use the chain whips from animated armory in third person because no matter where i order it it still hates me

[hexed notch]

TPOS isnt compatible wkth any city mods though? like you should not use that together. Also not compatible with Immersive Citizens. Elfx also needs loads of patches.. probably a bunch mlre in there that raises eyebrows.
That is unless the xbox version of tpos doesnt touch cities but i doubt that

[sonic fern]

There are two versions of tpos available. Tpos v10.2 and tpos ae v10. V10 has the most compatibility and even tpos v10.2 is very easy to run if i just had the space to fit it. Tho it does conflict innsome areas with my the great cities towns and villages bundle

And i use all of the available elfx patches for my city stuff interior changes

As well as Immersive Citizens elfx patch.

[echo trellis]

What category are mods that change standing stones in the structure I’m using? Would it be under the buildings area?

[sonic fern]

Perk or gameplay

[echo trellis]

Either is acceptable?

[sonic fern]

I would say yes.

Depends on if its enais standing stone mod with the spells tied to them or something else

[echo trellis]

It’s Andromeda, unique standing stones which add a couple more perks.

[sonic fern]

Then under gameplay or magic

[echo trellis]

It replaces the mundane vanilla standing stone effects with two new abilities per stone.

[hexed notch]

ok if the v10 doesnt chabge cities thats a lot more conpatible than i thought. Id still expect an elfx patch being needed since lux patches are available and both essentially needing similar patches

[sonic fern]

V10 was left up as a highly compatible version. It doesnt make as many worldspace edits

The only patches tho are mostly for the newer version

[echo trellis]

They’re actually mods that are acceptable in multiple areas of the LO structure?

[sonic fern]

Yeah when they make changes like adding spells to a festure rhat didnt have them

[hexed notch]

yeah i read up on it. It not having many worldspace edits is what helps it. Id still expect stuff like occasional floating light sources or light flicker since lux needs a patch

[hexed notch]

there is no super fixed ruleset where what HAS to go. If anything its a rough guideline. Also why do we still have this 1min timer.. my god

[sonic fern]

Yeah but i can deal with those small incompatibilities. Even the full mod would be fine in my lo if i used the separate moduals of the great cities towns and villages and only stuck to the ones that didnt edit the same areas id be fine

[hexed notch]

i mean you are using immersive citizens which wouldnt be fine if by full we mean the prior version of TPOS

[sonic fern]

Some times a mod is suposed to be near the top but for some reason refuses to work otherwise and the ma is a cocky melon head and doesnt understand it is broken so refuses to fix it so you gotta shove it real down low

[hexed notch]

if a mod works low down in your LO but not high up that does not mean the mod is broken. It means you are having compat issues. It is not required by the author to patch those personally

[sonic fern]

https://creations.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/details/9597/THE_PEOPLE_OF_SKYRIM_COMPLETE_AE_V10_2_2

The full version. Nearly 450mb

https://creations.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/details/7134/THE_PEOPLE_OF_SKYRIM_AE_V10

The "light" version at about 120mb

[echo trellis]

OK, now about items that are considered cheat items like these god rings of cheating which allow you to craft stuff that is God Tier. Would that go under cheats at the top or below that under items?

[sonic fern]

Why not just use cheat room and be done with it?

[hexed notch]

putting something further down in your LO doesnt fix a mod. It ensures that its changes overwrite other mods. Nothing to do with the mods functionality. It is on you to figure out which changes should overwrite which and in case of breaking incompatibilities its not on the author to make a patch but on the user, if he wants to use the mods together

[echo trellis]

Because it doesn’t let you make stuff that’s God tier.

[sonic fern]

I have a mod for Fallout 4 tha5 just doesnt wanna work 99% of the time but the melon who ported it thinks its working fine just cuz it works in his lo. Even when it works in exactly zero places in my lo and ive gotten it to function once

[echo trellis]

If you scroll up, you’ll see that I actually copied and pasted the load order structure guide I follow. I’m just wondering where in that structure I’m supposed to place these rings.

[hexed notch]

try it vanilla and see if it works with no mods. If it works with no mods that means the mod is working as intended.

[sonic fern]

You can if you max your smithing level past 100 and go to like 400 smithing and get all the perks and then just temper somthing

[uncut sundial]

Any good patches for the East Empire Expansion? Cause right now khajiit takes stuff from chest then when I go to follow him he ends up in the very middle of the map no where near me. And I cant get my crap back from his chest, as in the stuff he picked up isn't showing up, just an empty chest

[sonic fern]

A functional mod shouldn't need me to have a fully vanilla game to make it work. Period. The main mod is scripted poorly or the port is scuffed.

[echo trellis]

Do you guys know where the get no more dead followers and get no more dead merchants go? I’m guessing that’s under gameplay’s AI mods

[sonic fern]

Ive played with mods made by Complete amateurs who function correctly

[hexed notch]

if it works with an otherwise vanilla game that means its not the mod thst is broken but instead means that your LO isnt compatible with it. Thats a distinct difference. I can think of many many mlds lut there tvat require you to accomodate for them properly in your LO.
If you dont accomodate for them in your LO they wont work or have issues.
Means that either the mod wasnt designed with compatibility in mind or you didnt do a good job accomodating for it.
LUX for example needs a bazillion patches for everything, else stuff may not look great. Does that mean the mod is broken? no.
Clmplete Alchemy and Cooking overhaul also needs a billion patches because it wasnt built with compat in mind. Doesnt mean the mod is broken, just means you have to decide if its worth it. That doesnt make Kryptopyr an amateur modder however.

[sonic fern]

Well this mod adds a new gameplay mechanic to aiming. The previous version of the mod functions but ive gotten it working with my lo as is before

Thats my problem. It DID work. Once.

The mod hasnt been moved or adjusted. A gun mod has been changed and i started a new playthrough but that really was all

This was for Fallout 4.

I had tried starting it up with the mods thay do the same kinda spell adding thing disabled but that didnt work either

[hexed notch]

sooo maybe the current version does things differently that make it not work well with your LO. Until you test with an otherwise vanilla LO you cant proclaim kt to be broken.

[sonic fern]

Thats the thing. Its the same version. The previous version works as in ive had to use it as an alternative since the one i did get working just stopped.

[hexed notch]

mod doesnt just work once and then never again if you didnt change anything else in your LO. Either it was already buggy or something changed.

[sonic fern]

Yeah i wiped my mods and reinstalled everything and it quit working for new playthroughs

[hexed notch]

So again, test with a vanilla profile and check. Or go get a pc, fire up xedit and see whats being changed.
If you wiped everything and rebuilt your LO from scratch id say quite a bit has changed lmao
If same version of the mld worked fine before you reinstalled everything that makes it highly ublikely the mod is at fault. Much mlre likely thst your LO doesnt work with kt.

[sonic fern]

Oh yes ill fire up my nonexistent pc. Boot up my nonexistent coppy of pc fallout 4 and get right on that

[hexed notch]

If you cant look at the internals of a mod its really bold to proclaim its not working. Especially if you arent testing it in isolation

[sonic fern]

Ugh i hate vanilla fo4 after modding it so much

Time to test and see if this craps broken

[hexed notch]

ok and? testing in isolation isnt something that takes forever. Its something you should also always be prepared in some way to do for simple bug fixing and compatibility testing

[sonic fern]

Ive never once had this issue before. Every other mod ive been able to drop to the bottom of my lo for testing. Oh god the fov

[hexed notch]

Not sure if there is an efficient way to do so on console (if there isnt then it sure would be cool kf bethesda would go looking into actual functionalities for modding rather than... well you know) but any report that mod xyz is broken i wouldnt treat seriously unless tested in isolation or with crash log

[sonic fern]

Default ui. Default dialog wheel. Default camera, default fov

I hate it.

The problem is the porter is like "well it works in my lo"

[hexed notch]

its only for s couple min lol

[deep inlet]

because it probably does?

[sonic fern]

That don't make it a good port

[raw bluff]

The porter may not know very much about the mod. I'd check the original mod's page for known bugs and things.

[hexed notch]

if kt works vanilla that means the port is completely fine.

[uncut sundial]

Is the east empire thing even a creation or is it a mod? Thing is being a twit

[echo trellis]

Where does a mod that lets you drop quest items go in the load order? I’m guessing it’s under gameplay?

[sonic fern]

If it doesnt work in a heavily modded playthrough it doesnt exactly function.

[deep inlet]

you having issues with your LO does not make a port bad. know how i know it's probably your LO? you said yourself that the porter isn't having the same issue

[terse shard]

Creations are now mods. Mods are now creations.

[raw bluff]

Yes.
With the update all mods are called "Creations". This is a "Paid Mod". It will work like any other mod in your LO.

[pulsar wing]

Not sure if there is an efficient way to do so on console
Depending on what it is you're needing to test and how you can likely use Debug Menu for mod testing purposes on xbox at least. PS4's only option though is Cheat Room, afaik.

[sonic fern]

I said this early but ive gotten it to work with my same load order just once. Nothing changed. Nothing

[deep inlet]

so like.. every mod ever?

[uncut sundial]

Fun, so I probably need another mod to make it work then, cause I can't complete quest if my stuff doesn't show up in box

[hexed notch]

half my plugins or more are patches. Either self made ones or ones provided. LOTS of them are combo patches to get 3 or 4 mods working well together. By this logic most big mods in my LO arent functional because they require lots of patching.

[deep inlet]

USSEP doesnt function because other mods conflict with it! LOTD doesn't work because other mods conflict with it!

do you see how that logic falls apart with any other example?

also this 1 min timer is painful

[echo trellis]

I have a mod that will let me drop quest items. Can someone please tell me if I’m right in assuming that it goes under the gameplay area of the load order?

[raw bluff]

Most likely it's an item attribute change. But as people use may different ways to sort mods it's hard to say where you are putting those.

[sonic fern]

If it can't run with only 149 other mods installed is it even functional? No one goes and makes a mod called aim fatigue and expects you to use vanilla game mechanics

[hexed notch]

🤷 i cant tell you where it goes because i dont know what itd conflict with in your LO. Depending on how thats implemented i wouldnt expect it to conflict with lots so.. probably wherever yoj wsnt to put it lol

[deep inlet]

i say again, so every mod ever?

[sonic fern]

Every mod i use has always been compatible and this one has worked with my lo. Being at the bottom should have it overwrite what it needs to overwrite

[hexed notch]

it entirely depends on what those 149 mods are lol.. bloody timer

[pulsar wing]

It is not a reasonable expectation for a mod author to create a mod with any number of hundreds or thousands of other mod's potential conflicts in mind. That's not how it works and we'd all go insane chasing that idea. You simply create what works, then find out what conflicts and potentially create patches to resolve conflicts.

[sonic fern]

I had gotten the mod to function. It worked.

It

Worked

With

My

Load

Order

Your telling me a mod that worked with my load order, notbing having updated. Now suddenly doesnt work anymore and its some how my fault for blaming the porter? Nothing changed. The mod position didnt change

[deep inlet]

any mod can conflict with any other mod in a near innumerable manner of ways. you do not know how mods do the things they do until you've actually looked at the raw files themselves.

to say that MA's who release a mod which happens to conflict with something else, is a sign of it being dysfunctional? genuinely laughable.

[hexed notch]

i am presently contemplating the idea of building a replacement for NSUTR.. i will have to patch basically everything (still more compatible than original). If my patches arent done/rdady/dont exist, that doesnt make my replacement non fjnctional. Just means it doesnt work with your LO

[sonic fern]

Ah yes a mod that worked not working with zero changes other then a new playthrough and im not allowed to be upset at this? Funny.

Can you please read what im typing

[deep inlet]

yes. it has to be something you've done unless the mod has been updated. how is it the porter's fault, any more than it is yours? if the mod hasn't been updated, nothing should have changed on their end. so how is it their fault it is NOW not working?

[sonic fern]

Because a properly ported mod wouldn't suddenly stop changing with no variables being changed? How am i the only one who gets this?

[raw bluff]

Accept, I'd think that most likely something else changed. If you had to wipe your LO one or more of your other mods may have updated making this one incompatible with the LO now. Or even if you loaded one mod in the wrong place from where you had it before it changed how the game expected the mod to function. It's hard to say without a log and we can't generate those from Xbox.

[deep inlet]

the mod hasn't been updated, has it?

[echo trellis]

This is the load order that I use. Where would I place the mod to drop quest items in this?

[hexed notch]

You cannot say kt was properly ported if you didnt do sufficient testing. Also a variable did change. You rebuilt your LO

[sonic fern]

I started a new playthrough. Mod didnt workm i wiped my lo. Redownloaded everything in order. Didnt work. I uninstalled and reinstaleld it. Nothingm deleted the game. Nothing why you looking at me like im freaking crazy here like i havent done everything except run it with a raw vanilla game like im the idiot here. Im not the only one claiming it breaks half the freaking time

[orchid shadow]

Lets not drop into a fight

[hexed notch]

just test it in isolation and if it still doesnt work then you know for sure. Then after seeing if thr issue also exists in the original mod you can go to the porter with your idolation tested evidence

[deep inlet]

ok, test it with no other mods then. confirm it to be a conflict, or the mod itself. if it's a contlict, you still can't justify it being the porter or og MA's fault, but at least you'll know.

if it's the mod itself, boom now you know to avoid that mod.

[sonic fern]

This fov is hurting my eyes.

My problem with it. Is the mod

Worked

But now it doesnt

I have never once experienced a mod suddenly not working when no variables changed other then a new playthrough

[deep inlet]

you'd think someone who has been modding since fo4 got mods on console, would know about isolated tests

[hexed notch]

idk if they maybe arent common on console. I know nothing about the console modding environment. Been PC modding only

[sonic fern]

Ive never hsd this issue on skyrim even with the most scuffed mod ever made by mankind

[deep inlet]

i can't necessarily speak for fallout, but the skyrim side definitely knows the importance of it. would be weird if that knowledge didn't transfer over to the other game.

[hexed notch]

i recon modding in general is a lot more annoying. If i got to do the frustration thing of disabling half the mods in LO to check why xyz doesnt work then i can just clone profile and for from a throwaway Lo. Stuff like that is far more annoying on console i figure

[sonic fern]

But this one mod just. Doesnt wanna work 99% of the time

Dont talk like i aint here.

You are telling me its a common issue on pc for a mod to just suddenly quit when you play a new game? Even when your lo didnt change?

[potent sigil]

Please speak respectfully to each other.

[hexed notch]

Man i have had compat issues where id ctd by opening and then closing the map in two specific areas of the gameworld. And it was a combination of mods. All kinds lf weird factors can play together.
And again just test it in isolation and see.

[sonic fern]

All im saying is in all my years ive never had a mod just quit functioning between playthroughs without anything updating

[deep inlet]

something changed. mods don't just stop working, especially not when they were on an old character and now aren't on a new character.

either A, the mod was updated and you don't remember updating it

or B, you're being intentionally misleading in your representation of the issue.

mods don't just "break" entirely. not on console anyway. a mod can break mid-playthrough, but it wouldn't subsequently break upon New Game on other playthroughs. not unless your LO had changed, or one (or several) mods got updated.

[hexed notch]

why dont you just test in isolation and se can stop the argument. I am not accepting that its definitely a bad port considering other variables DID change.
Not saying it definktely works either. I am saying its too early to tell.

[thick fulcrum]

C) Your loadorder changed and your mod is now being overwritten to no longer work.

[sonic fern]

How is it being overwritten when its the last in the lo?

[orchid shadow]

Can we move on. You are all just repeating the same responses in a different way

[kind falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/eddie-fast-spin-circles-pet-gif-16458550

[pulsar wing]

i took too long to type my response. oh well.

[deep inlet]

[kind falcon]

Gotta pump those words per minute up

[pulsar wing]

[hexed notch]

speedy neko

[kind falcon]

You were asked to move on. Take it to DMs, or drop it

[deep inlet]

please god do not dm me about this

[thick fulcrum]

Don't take it to my DMs. I will just ignore them.

[deep inlet]

alternatively @thick fulcrum we can edit these

[thick fulcrum]

Anyway. Hidden Gem mods?
Also. 1 minute slowmode really makes conversations be a pain.

[hexed notch]

for hidden gems i really like some red lavendar field mod in conjunction with other grass mods (after some tweaks) I am finally gettkng my tundra to look like a tundrs thanks to it
My amalgam of like 4 grass mods for just the whiterun tubdra is edging closer to completion

[echo trellis]

Hey, get this. I haven’t even been able to start playing a game yet as I’m still messing around with the load order. And my game just crashed while I was changing something in the load order.

[deep inlet]

idk what constitutes hidden gems, since i don't really know what people are/aren't aware of..

but pentapox's audio replacers have been a staple in my game that i love. even come with ISC support too

[hexed notch]

i am a staunch supporter of dylan james and lazy skeever when it comes to audio 😌

[thick fulcrum]

People were trying to help with issues. Only the person who asks for help knows the exact setup they are working with.

General recommendation and problems are just that. General. They are mentioned cause that is what might cause issues.

If it is not what causes issues in a specific case, you move on to the next general troubleshooting step.

And after no general steps have helped, the person with the issues is usually best to explain in detail what steps they tried to so far, and what the exact issue is. Then people can help you with more fingrained troubleshooting steps.

[deep inlet]

will have to look those up asap

[hexed notch]

thats audio overhaul and isc lol
I am sure you know those. Though with the doodle dll on top its also a weird amalgam now

[echo trellis]

I don’t believe this. The game crashed again while messing around with my load order.

[deep inlet]

oh yeah i'm a big fan of ISC, never remembered the author's name tho... good to know.

personally not too keen on Audio Overhaul, not sure why it just didn't hit right for me

[hexed notch]

Presently having an issue there wkth horse steps and them sounding inconsistent in first person on horse. Since its fine in third person but not in first person (thanks to improved camera) I am assuming it has to do sith the position of the camera relative to the sound source. If i look up camera is facing away from noise and thus gets too quiet.
Thats my running theory atm but not tested

[deep inlet]

i had a similar issue ages ago, which was due to me having headphones plugged in when i initially turned on the game.

so i play on xbox, and i used to like playing with a headset. i took out the headset at one point and noticed my audio was all wrong. facing towards the source made it quieter, etc.

thought my speakers were broken, audio sliders, blah blah. tried everything until i gave up and put the headphones back on. when they eventually needed to go on charge, unplugged and the speaker audio was back to normal

[echo trellis]

And again.

[deep inlet]

yeeeeep it's a common problem atm. mine has crashed a lot even just when downloading mods. whole Creations menu seems to be experiencing issues since the update. Arthmoor suggested it to be a caching issue, but 🤷🏻‍♀️

[hexed notch]

ah yeah no i play on speakers so i dont get issues like that lol. I know its related to camera angle but i havent checked where exactly the problem is.. because multiple mods influencin audio and also how audio sorks. I will figure it out.. when i have time

[deep inlet]

i think the biggest upside pc has is being able to edit your files and immediately hop in to test.

on console i have to test it, go into my laptop's files and correct any issues, then go through CK to upload the updated version (which thanks to the recent update, CK is now horrendously slow ) and then re-load skyrim and download the updated version

of course i'm still in a better boat than most xbox players, cuz i use self-ported stuff.. but still if i could play skyrim on pc i absolutely would just for the convenience of testing

[hexed notch]

ye i couldnt imagine modding the game without my workflows and tools

[deep inlet]

which channel or @ do i need to report a server member i appear to have a rather emotional message from someone.

[pulsar wing]

The @ ModMail bot.

[thick fulcrum]

Add a +1, but I am too lazy atm to report myself.

[deep inlet]

thank you

[deep inlet]

done

[echo trellis]

I see what that one guy meant about some UI mods breaking the game.

I added in the no main menu, fire, hero whatever that changes, the graphic and music of the main menu screen and now when I select creations I’m loaded into the original mods menu and I can’t disable or delete it.

So looks like I have no choice, but to uninstall and reinstall the game and start from scratch again.

Oh right. I forgot I could just clear the reserved space to get rid of the mods that way. Well, at least that’ll save me some time.

[sonic fern]

Just use one of the safe ui mods. Some of them change the main menu #1184505392223490149

[echo trellis]

OK is it just me or do any of you go through a lot of crashes in the creations area?

I have lost count of how many times the damn thing crashed while I was trying to sort my load order after getting some new mods downloaded.

[gilded condor]

Not just you. The new menu crashes on me while selecting certain mod pages.

[brittle rapids]

Anyone else having trouble with mods staying downloaded? I’ve been trying to download diamond skin but it keeps removing itself and then on top of that everytime i try to re downloaded it downloads the 2K version on top of that and then when I try to reorder it in my load order and I close the game the damn mod deletes itself?? I didn’t know sentience was apart of the new update.

[echo trellis]

Makes me wonder if the morons even tested this after making the change.

Is it safe to use radiant quest markers?

[orchid shadow]

Check
https://help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/41662
https://help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/36458

[echo trellis]

I don’t suppose anyone knows the answers to the security questions on stepmodifications when trying to create an account.

I mean seriously how the hell am I supposed to know the answer to:

Step Modifications provides guides for modding several PC games. Who is the publisher of the most commonly modded games?

[thick fulcrum]

Mojang/Microsoft
Any other answer is just wrong.

But they probably mean Bethesda

[echo trellis]

I took a shot in the dark and guessed Bethesda. Turns out I was right.

[thick fulcrum]

The largest 5 minecraft mods together have a billion downloads combined. That is 1/3 of ALL skyrim SE mods combined.
And the top 20 minecraft mods sit at 3.1 billion. 400 million behind all Skyrim SE mods.
And there are a total of roughly 150k minecraft mods

[echo trellis]

Will return to Helgen SE work on AE?

[maiden mulch]

@echo trellis yeah why wouldn't it

[echo trellis]

Just wondering. I mean, it says SE so.

I’m guessing I can’t use it alongside Helgen rebuilt, right? Also, like Helgen rebuilt do I gotta wait until after I become Thane of Whiterun before I activate the mod?

[echo trellis]

Could someone please explain to me why it’s saying I don’t have enough space when the download is only 133.44 MB and I have 165.88 MB free?

[orchid shadow]

which system

[orchid shadow]

https://help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/36967
https://help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/45335

[echo trellis]

Xbox

[echo trellis]

OK and once again, I have more space than is necessary for the download, so why is it happening?

[orchid shadow]

Submit a ticket for additional help
https://help.bethesda.net/#en/home/product/373/skyrimcat/8

[echo pivot]

Can someone help me with the unbroken blade I'm at the begging where I'm supposed to talk to telisha but she's not in the tavern

[steel pumice]

@echo trellis u need space for ram, so ur system can process ur mods

[tight hull]

there are other sites that host skyrim mods than nexus

[keen fog]

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/38466/?tab=posts This appears to be a great and very complex dwemer mod but the author seems to be reluctant regarding a potential sse port sadly.

[echo pivot]

Porting to sse yourself is easy

[thick fulcrum]

Yeah, but nexus is the largest by far.
Same as CurseForge is not the only place for minecraft mods, but is the largest by far.

[hexed notch]

ye outside nexus hardly anything is really relevant when it comes to total downloads

[keen fog]

I certainly will try.

[stone hemlock]

https://youtu.be/nwi8ihkZgZU?si=QNBZKXRWtd9F62B1

[vale storm]

Is there a list of mods that are broken? I have had to reset mods because they don't work for Skyrim ae since update

[terse shard]

Just UI mods I think. But there are also problems sometimes caused when multiple mods use the same esp name casing ghost space and unknown version usage.

And then you LO can get out of order all on its own sometimes too

[vale storm]

I have the error these mods are unusable and should be deleted for almost all my mods. Can one mod cause all of them to do that? I only know of this when trying to do my load order

[vale storm]

So only ui mods got effected by the update. I heard the parthenax delimma was also one that was effected

[terse shard]

Not sure about that one. Arthmoor is usually quick to update his mods when needed for game updates. No idea why anything in the update would affect that mod.

[vale storm]

I'll test the mods I download. If I find one that is causing the crash I'll post it here in case anyone has the same issue so they don't download the mod. One mod is fully crashing my game.

[terse shard]

Which mod? Have you run a clean test?

[vale storm]

I am on Xbox so I can't. I am having to test one by one. But the one that is crashing my system is also causing all my mods to have some sort of problem

[terse shard]

That’s a clean test. New game. Only that mod. ( should be ok to use USSEP, alt start and cheat room to make things go a bit quicker)

[vale storm]

Yep I am doing that currently. Also have the patch, alt and chest room going. Once I find what mod it is i will have to restart modding without getting it. I have a feeling it's my weapons overhaul

[terse shard]

Which weapon mod?

[vale storm]

Old Kingdom weapon and armor mod

[terse shard]

Can’t see how that wouldn’t keep working well like always.

[vale storm]

Maybe not it's never actually effected anything before I just need to make sure.

Nope it's not those mods. So I was mistaken good all around mods those. Glad they are still usable.

[vale storm]

This is what I am getting after the crash. The old ui comes back for the creation club and the error comes up saying delete.

[vale storm]

So this is what I was talking about. I am thinking it may be the intro change?

Something to add the menu does not change even after a hard reset so I literally have to delete my reserved storage and start again

[zinc cradle]

Not sure how it works on Xbox anymore but did you delete the mod I’m assuming and make sure that you un bookmarked it if you are subscribed to it from Bethesda

[vale storm]

No because I can't once it gets that way. It's like it reverts the change from the update fully.

[zinc cradle]

Hmm strange so it is hard to entirely get rid of it?

[vale storm]

Yes without deleting the entire mod data. I am on a very old system. It may have broken my mods entirely

[bold timber]

Hey can I get some help please? I'm trying a new load order out that features Guards Armor Replacer, but for some reason all the city guards still have the default armor in the body slot. Can someone tell me why this is happening, and how to fix it?

[terse shard]

Have you tried clearing reserve space?

[vale storm]

I figured it out. So with the starting mod in the the beginning was causing the reverting. I can't have a different beginning until they fix the mods. I have my load out perfect. No crashes. The thing that was in that video the fire behind the Skyrim symbol

[terse shard]

Different beginning?

[vale storm]

The video shows fire behind the Skyrim symbol and the music. That thing was causing the crash. Been working on this long past my bedtime. My speech is slurred and I can barely type. Forgive me

I just wanted my old game back. Lol

[terse shard]

Oh yea main menu mods will conflict until updated.

[vale storm]

Oh that's why. Then I will leave it out of my load out. Does music changers count? I have a music changer that adds music to the background.

[terse shard]

Background of the main menu? Maybe? Game I would think not.

[vale storm]

It's the game. But thank you so much for helping me long into my late hours. I appreciate it.

[sonic fern]

#1184505392223490149

[sonic fern]

If installed mid game a lot of time needs to pass before they wear the new outfits. If for a new game make sure you don't have other mods overwriting the guard level lists getting in the way

[bold timber]

i see

[versed ruin]

Anyone experienced the same bug with mask of almalexia that is suppose to be just in the mannequin is not there? I'm on ps4. I tried reloading but it still not there, even before I go back to ashfall. It's like, it's never been there.

[summer lichen]

Saga will be released by EOY 🙂

[echo pivot]

hi. This slowmode is insane jesus christ. Is anyone on xbox one s?

[pine crown]

Paarthurnax Dilemma doesn't edit the UI so it wouldn't be affected by any of that.

[tight hull]

beth has high numbers of downloads

[zinc cradle]

Is anybody able to get alternate? Start live another life to work I was able to get Sky UI to work

I know LOTD is dependent on SKy UI so this is likely why it wasn’t behaving for me before an error on my part.

[tight hull]

i think that is arthmoors mod i will ping him for you @pine crown

[tight hull]

also what is the issue you have

[glossy moat]

Alt Start is working just fine for me.

[sage echo]

Will a Formlist of items work for the Perk Entry Point Should Apply Placed Item? The Poisoned Perk from Rare Curios only has conditions for GetIsID. I cannot find a reliable list of perk entry points and their functions on the wiki.

[zinc cradle]

I get A CTD but it’s likely my fault I had to do a clean install of everything so that could be it. Haven’t had CTD since I will try again

[broken wedge]

I just thought of this. How many of us are using combined mods? Those are going to be the very last ones to get updated.

[zinc cradle]

Hmm what is considered combined?

[broken wedge]

JK's Skyrim, The Great Cities, instead of using the individual city mods.

[zinc cradle]

LTOD is working now it was my error oh I use SKyland AIO

[broken wedge]

Skyland doesn't look like it is a combined mod.

[terse shard]

Why do they need to be updated?

[pulsar wing]

I'm not sure it'll be necessary for there to be large AIO's like that much anymore. I'm pretty sure it was said the console versions have ESL support now?

[terse shard]

Not sure it’s ESL support. Just removed the 150 mod limit.

[broken wedge]

All the mods need to be updated for the new server. Just mainly the mod authors making sure that the mods are still compatible with Bethesda's new system.

And of course all the individual mods would have to be updated first before the combined mod does.

Not to mention how old some mods might be and if thr mod authors still support the much older mods.

[broken wedge]

Lucky you to have the 150, we only got 100 on Playstation.

[sonic fern]

They removed the limit at least on xbox so there might be more for you ps45 users

[terse shard]

I’m not sure that is accurate. Where did you hear this?

[sonic fern]

Personally I still use a lot of all in one mods / mod bundles like jks skyrim aio, the great cities towns and villages bundle, jks Interiors aio. Reconciliation, Shalidor's Armaments , Bushcraft.

Because the number of esm files is limited to 255 and im already pushing it very close to that limit with my lo

So those Bundles add hundreds of extra mods attached to a single esm file so i can use them all

[broken wedge]

A bunch of speculation in one of the Facebook chats for Skyrim.

[sonic fern]

City mods dont need to be updated. Its UI mods and mods that require skse to function that are hurt the most by this update

Possibly some dialogue mods as ive noticed some problems with them but it could just be a new bug that ussep hasnt patched yet

[broken wedge]

Hmm. Oh, I have Immersive Citizens on. I'm also noticing some crashes when I have too many mods changing the layout of outside Whiterun

[sonic fern]

Do you have the patches for them?

[terse shard]

Right. I’m fairly confident to say that for most mods that statement is not accurate. Ui mods. That’s about it. The game update was minor. The main update was the Bnet mod UI. And some game ui. Mostly the main menu and in game menu.

[sonic fern]

Because i use both JK's skyrim aio And The great cities towns and villiages bundle. If you use all there patches nothing should crash

JK's skyrim is very difficult to run some times so if your on PS4 or Xbox one or an older pc it might be your problem over the mods not working

[broken wedge]

With JK's I always have a problem with entering Windhelm.

[sonic fern]

I also use Immersive Citizens

Yeah on my one s i had the same problem. Maybe forgo jks skyrim aio and just use the great cities bundle?

[broken wedge]

I'm not using the bundle for JK's because I like a different mod for Rorikstead.

[sonic fern]

Oh ok. Then dont use jks windhelm

[austere sundial]

@broken wedge are you playing on ps4 or ps5?

[sonic fern]

What system you running it on cuz your profile says Playstation and im just surprised you have Immersive Citizens

[broken wedge]

4

[austere sundial]

you know what, i’m surprised too

[sonic fern]

Yeah last gen consoles have a really tough time running some town mods. Something about the ram on the old consoles just wasnt up to par with what those mods need

[broken wedge]

Yeah we have it and Realistic Conversations. I don't know why Insectopia is still there. Playstation can't handle it.

[sonic fern]

Realistic conversations just shortens the long delay between npc responses so it makes sense

[broken wedge]

I also use Holds Capitals for Dawnstar, Falkreath, Morthal, and Winterhold.

And yes I have the Immersive Citizens patch for Falkreath.

[sonic fern]

Also the mods are not seperated by generation. If its on Playstation its for both ps4 and 5 andbif its on xbox its for xbox one and series

[broken wedge]

Especially since I have a first edition PS4.

[sonic fern]

And of its for pc its for whatever os you can force it to run on

Oof yeah you dont have the ram required to run a city overhaul like that. Windhelm from jk opens up a wall too and adds so much little clutter in the market area

[austere sundial]

you know what i miss the most on consoles? bashed patches

[broken wedge]

Its weird because ir works once I'm in the city.

[austere sundial]

where is immersive citizens in your load order? above or below the city/town overhauls?

[sonic fern]

Yeah but it has to load in the initial area. If you have a mod that lets you teleport to like the castle or whatever it works fine but then loading in from the gates crashes

Yeah ive experience ive the same thing. On my one and one s

[pulsar wing]

iirc most of the major hold cities are in their own worldspace.

[sonic fern]

Yet Riften just drops frames for no reason lil

[pulsar wing]

I think it was only. what was it called, Falkreath? that isn't.

[sonic fern]

Falkreath
Dawnstar
Winterhold

[austere sundial]

morthal too

it’s alright. everybody forgets about morthal

[broken wedge]

Immersive Citizens is way up above everything after USSEP, Draonborn delayed, dawnguard delayed, and IA92's Dragonborn Arsenal

[pulsar wing]

I just rarely ever had a reason to visit morthal. I've probably been there less than 10 times in all of my playthroughs combined.

[austere sundial]

you know what depresses me about consoles? not being able to combine levelled lists

[pulsar wing]

You can combine them. You just either have to use a patch or script injection; the latter option being a really bad idea, though.

[broken wedge]

I get it. Morthal is so useless.

[austere sundial]

you know what flubbernuggets me about playstation? not being able to incorporate custom scripts

[broken wedge]

There is only 4 reasons to even go there:

To get to Ustengrav
To get Windstaad Manor
To cure yourself of Vampirism
To get the hilt of Mehrunes Razor

[pulsar wing]

Aye. Although at least there's still a decent amount that can be done through using both default scripts and creative combinations of other systems. iirc the recent major update introduced more default scripts in that resource pack thing. I've yet to look into what all new scripts became available, though.

[broken wedge]

Not to mention, you can almost go the whole game without ever going to Dawnstar. You only need to go there to get to the DB sanctuary.

[austere sundial]

maybe you’ve yet to see playstation’s exclusive mod Wandering Ones

[pulsar wing]

Never even heard of it.

[broken wedge]

I haven't used that one. What is it?

[austere sundial]

watch Shapless Skyrim’s video on it

[pulsar wing]

I don't have a console so beyond mod dev stuff I don't have much info on what all you guys have in general.

[austere sundial]

other playstation exclusives also include Erethfel Isle and Chantry of The Knights

and for the record, i think them being ps exclusives kinda suck. they’re really that good and deserve to be played on all platforms

[broken wedge]

The Snow Elf one is PS4 only?

And we can't get female snow elf followers either.

[austere sundial]

iirc correctly at least. most of the mod author’s work was only ever done on playstation

[broken wedge]

Kinda like Skaerkrow's mods. His are good too.

[gilded condor]

Yeah, seems kind of weird for them to be exclusive to that platform. I mean, there's just no technical reason for it.

Well actually, if they want to test the mod themselves, that could be reason. Like if they don't have the other console, basically.

[broken wedge]

Playstation freindly is one thing, exclusive is a whole other story. Its not like you are creating HZD for Skyrim.

[austere sundial]

tbf Wandering Ones has a bit of more technical reason to it

it only works with vanilla scripts of course, any vanilla script modified by other mods would break things

Wandering One’s entire thing is vanilla scripts

here’s a small glimpse if you guys are interested @broken wedge @pulsar wing

[pulsar wing]

I see.

[broken wedge]

I was just watching the video on it. So its a horror quest mod.

[austere sundial]

@broken wedge this may interest you #1182507968319717466 message

[broken wedge]

I'm having problems with New Beaten Path though.

[austere sundial]

problems such as

[broken wedge]

The game would crash every 5 minutes outside Whiterun and when fast traveling.

[austere sundial]

and you know it’s caused by beaten path? i’m assuming you’ve tried playing with and without it

unless you’re willing to share your entire LO it’s hard to say whether it’s a conflict with another mod (if that’s even a possible reason why it’d ctd) or if it’s just a ps4 thing

[broken wedge]

Yeah, it stopped when I stopped using it.

I also just got rid of a bunch of player home mods, so I'll try it again.

Would it conflict with 13 and J's Spooky Woods and October Vibe?

[austere sundial]

i wouldn’t imagine so

not any conflicts that would cause a crash anyway

[broken wedge]

I'll send you my load order.

[austere sundial]

the anticipation is murder

[gilded condor]

resource pack is kinda nice to play around with.

hopefully it'll open up some more themes for PS4/5 mod users

[vale storm]

Yes I realized it was something else. Thanks so much for the reply though. Love your mods.

[brittle rapids]

I’m having trouble uninstalling a mod and having it stay that way. It is called diamond skin. Can’t get it off my list no matter what I try. Don’t want to clear my reserved space but it’s looking like that’s what I have to do

[austere sundial]

you mean it keeps popping up in your load order when you exit and go back in?

[brittle rapids]

Yes not only that but it keeps like adding a second one like a clone of it

[austere sundial]

i’ve had the same issue. i think it has something to do with multiple mods having the same esp name or something like that

what you wanna do is to delete the mods from your LO, and NOT go back in. exit the creations menu then it should be fixed

[brittle rapids]

Right and my theory is that it stays in your load order because it turns into ghost space.

I think it might’ve fixed it lol see what happened was I downloaded a bunch of mods like big ones like beyond Skyrim Bruma and I didn’t have enough space even tho I have enough space lmao and so I deleted that skin mod and tried redownloading it but a different size and it just glitched from there

[austere sundial]

unfortunately if you download those same mods again you’ll have the same problem again

and no, i don’t think they’ll work either way

[brittle rapids]

Yeah it’s doing again lmao

I mean does the cloned mod actually count towards my load order?

[crimson grotto]

I can't do may things on the creation option (can't access filter, load order, etc). How can i fix it?

[terse shard]

Wait until BGS hopefully fixes it “next year”

[crimson grotto]

Ok

[austere sundial]

great, now i’m not even sure if Unofficial Creation Club Content Patch even works properly for me anymore because of this exact problem

[coarse blade]

Hi, Did you know if the mod ¨Gates to Sovngard¨ is in Ps4 and Ps5 too?

[versed ruin]

Ps4 user here. My game 100% crashing when I'm going yo skyrim from stolheim. I figure last night that when I turn off 8 of specific mods it will not crash but that changed today. When i tried disabling the said mods it's crashing again. I'm tired of figuring out what mod is causing my game to crash, i spend 6 hours yesterday just to figure out those 8 mods that's causing it. Any suggestion mod for graphics and load order that's stable. I have less 100 mods now if it helps.

[echo trellis]

I’d noticed that there are some mods that seem to have a duplicate with the [XB1] appended to the end of it. Furthermore, when I install just the one with the [XB1] the one without it also shows up in the load order. Explain please.

[austere sundial]

based on your description it would seem that your issue is the same as here #skyrim-se-mods message

[versed ruin]

I think those mods need to update. Zeos enchanced dragon doing the same and the unoffcial creation club is like that right now.

[echo trellis]

https://www.icloud.com/notes/0790_qiTsJDLq3nnFIoto57RA#USSEP

When someone gets a chance could they have a quick look over my load order and let me know if I got it right? Please and thank you.

Does it count towards my 5 gbs and will it cause problems if both are enabled or should I disable one of the clones?

Never mind. I tried to disable one, then went back in and saw that it was enabled again.

[bold timber]

Auto disabling mods? For some reason whenever my creation menu loads, the same mods are continuously getting automatically disabled. Those being:

SWF Nordic UI
Summermyst - On back patch
SWF Reforging to the Masses
SWF Armor Variants Expansion
VAE2 Summermyst Patch
Divergence Myriad of Miscellanea
Cathedral 3D Plants AIO
SWF Artefakes
The Breton Paladin - On back patch

is there any reason why they keep being automatically disabled? How do I fix this?

[echo trellis]

I recently added a UI changer mod to my game and found out that when I checked my load order after being able to remove it, which was a good thing, considering it completely messed up the main menu so that I couldn’t get back into the creations new menu, but was in the old one instead, but I digress I found that some of my mods had been disabled.

So my guess would be one of the mods you got on disabled those other ones.

[terse shard]

Do you have SWF downloaded and enabled?

[bold timber]

yes

[wintry sail]

Hey all. Trying to give “live another life” mod a shot. I’m on PC in the creations tab. When I go to download, it’s gives me a window saying “This creation cannot be installed since it depends on files that aren’t present” Can anyone help out with this?

[echo trellis]

Make sure you’re installing the main mod and not the add-on.

[wintry sail]

I’m only seeing one when I search for live another life. Has the green checkmark as well. Not sure what to do

[echo trellis]

There’s also a new beginnings - live another life which adds more options you can choose from. Other than that about the only other thing I can think of is you don’t have the USSEP patch installed.

[wintry sail]

That’s what I needed. The unofficial patch. Thank you. I’m playing through as an imperial guard

[sonic fern]

"Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch Patch"

[brisk yacht]

Anyone got any good UI mods for xbox? Just spent all day perfecting my load order with 200+ mods for me to restart because I can’t find a good UI mod that’s updated for the new creations menu

[wind stag]

@pine crown does USSEP have an ini for Xbox?

[sonic fern]

Here is list of them

#1184505392223490149

[thick fulcrum]

How would an ini file on xbox even work?

[wind stag]

It used to be before the update if you had an ini file in your data folder during the upload process it would attach the ini to the upload for changes such as grass density, book zoom, map changes, etc. But since the update by BGS no mod ini uploads are working. Not sure what has changed.

[brisk yacht]

Legend, ill run through em later and see whats better

[pulsar wing]

@night rover Any chance you'd know the answer to the above questions regarding uploading ini files along with mods to bethnet, as in does it still work or did it get disabled for some reason etc?

[meager gulch]

By the way, ini was already disabled on PS4/PS5 after the anniversary update. I've never received an official answer, so I'd like some clarification on this if possible.

[deep inlet]

wait, so before the AE release ini files did work on Playstation??

[meager gulch]

Yes. Wrighton, BeVeryOfA and I have some ini mods that don't work.

[deep inlet]

interesting, i assumed they would be included in "external assets." i guess not, or at least they weren't until AE

[pulsar wing]

iirc there was a workaround at one point to get the CK to upload an ini file for a PS mod.

[pulsar wing]

@quick hatch try this then: https://creations.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/details/9386/Debug_Menu__XB1_

[pine crown]

Assuming the CK uploaded it with everything else, yes.

Playstation has never allowed them though.

[wind stag]

Then it’s not working

The ini’s are not uploading like they used too before this update

[pine crown]

How can you tell it's not working?

[wind stag]

Uploading ini edits that are obvious like Book Zoom

They are having no effect and BGS is silent about it so far

[pine crown]

BGS is also on holiday so you probably won't get anything from them until after New Years

[pulsar wing]

Possibly dumb question but did you confirm if those ini edits function at all say on PC first? Seems possible maybe they got stealth removed. @wind stag

[wind stag]

Did not try the edits on PC since the update

[pine crown]

Should be easy to see if it still works on PC because you'd see the file in your Data folder.

[pulsar wing]

I meant testing in game.

I'm reminded of the fps settings getting nuked in the AE update, so it seems maybe more could've gotten the axe for some reason. Although ini file uploads getting nuked also seems possible.

Though that could be accidental, too.

[pine crown]

That's why I suggested downloading it. If the file isn't there, testing it in game becomes moot.

[pulsar wing]

Ah.

[pine crown]

Would definitely be annoying if that was silently dropped as an option too.

[night rover]

I'm not aware of any changes here. That doesn't mean it hasn't occurred, but I've been swamped with higher priority stuff. I can ask folks after the holidays.

[wind stag]

Thank you Carto.

[echo trellis]

I need help with the Aventus Artino adoption mod. I’m encountering a conflict somewhere which is giving him options to armor my horse, and ask him what he has for sale. At the same time the only way I can get the option to adopt him to show up is if I have him become a follower first. And then I can’t remove him as a follower.

Here’s my LO

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/oy77s8ful62r5nm6nsze9/0790_qiTsJDLq3nnFIoto57RA.url?rlkey=u3can6lt4e9ui62b6y9oppku6&dl=0

[graceful relic]

Good night everyone, a quick question, how many space available we have now? I just clean my reserved space on my Xbox and downloaded all my mods again, the space available shows 1GB free but don't let me download a 500mb+ mod. 🫠

Hmm I see the problem, If you restore your LO from bethnet apparently consumes space or something like that. Anyone has the same issue?

[sonic fern]

I did but i dont trust the bethesda restore feature as it always drops like 100 mods from my lo

[tight hull]

a bug with the new downloader is it will try and download all mods that are named similar so maybe you have a few duplicates in your lo

[vale storm]

I wish Xbox had a load out fixer

I know the limitations but it would make most of our lives so much easier

[hexed notch]

😐 man you guys have it rough lol

[pulsar wing]

What do you mean?

[vale storm]

I am crashing and trying to fix my load out. I have no clue what I am doing.

[pulsar wing]

What do you mean when you say "load out"? Do you mean your mod load order? Character equipment setup? The context is unclear to me.

[vale storm]

Load order I didn't mean load out. Been playing to much cod. Lol

[pulsar wing]

Ah, I see.

[vale storm]

I have a message with the load order in the other section.

[quick hatch]

So I have Inigo and Lucien in my Load order and Im on the Auldin's portal quest, but they're no where to be found can they not follow me there?

[pulsar wing]

If you mean when you're going to Sovengarde, then no your followers are not meant to follow you there. https://help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/16604

[sonic fern]

Force them in with amazing follower tweaks summon command woooo. Idk if it works im just messin around

[white dagger]

hi i just tried to launch my skyrim after downgrading it to 1.640 however some of the mods are working and others not. a good example would be alternate start. any help would be greatly appreciated

[final timber]

Alternate Start - Live Another Life only supports the surrent version of Skyrim.

[white dagger]

but i have used it before on previous versions

[quick hatch]

I tried looking up a reccomended mod called Skyrim Particle overhaul but I can't find it is it no longer posted or is skyrim just being dumb

[hearty arrow]

Depending on how far you are into Inigo's follower storyline, you should have his teleportation spell. It will be classed as a conjuration spell.

[sonic fern]

Alternate start has been updated. You need to prolly use a previous version

[quick hatch]

Why are mods auto deleting themselves and what do I need to get lux 6.3 to work I still have depenedecies missing

Wtf is going on I have mods reappearing that I've already deleted and mods disappearing

[orchid shadow]

https://help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/36473

[orchid shadow]

https://help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/41662

[quick hatch]

They were deleting directly from my load order even after I installed them on my console I had to completely clear the reserved space to get it undercontrol

[zinc cradle]

Does someone know where the sell pile income box is for LTOD I can’t find it. I looked it up and it is not there

Never mind for anyone who needs to know it is on top of the desk with the paper under the stairs in the safe house

[true root]

Sofia does it

[pulsar wing]

[fringe kindle]

Anyone know a way to check what cells a mod edits on XB1?

[pulsar wing]

At the moment, if the mod is xbox only, then no. If it has a PC version you can usually find out what gets edited since they don't normally vary between the two.

You can also try your luck with contacting the author to see if they'll give you that data.

[fringe kindle]

Does that mean i need Skyrim on pc?

[pulsar wing]

If you're wanting to check the information yourself, probably. I don't think xEdit will let you load it up without the main game data files present.

At the very least steam's winter sale should be kicking off any day now so you can probably get AE something like half off as usual.

[flat spear]

@pine crown hello I found a small bug with ussep pls see the attached picture

This was zero mods but ussep installed

I’m on xbox series x

I also tested on a pure vanilla save and this only happened with ussep

As you can see theres like a gap between where boots end and the pants start in vanilla this is not there and looks normal only woth ussep does the gap appear

This is with the emperor robes and the fine boots (the boot ones not the shoe ones)

[sonic fern]

Well updating mods just likes to breaknload orders as always woo

[quick hatch]

Okay I just heard the most unexpected line from the Lucien and Inigo mods interacting

[echo pivot]

What was it?

[quick hatch]

"Is it racist to say that Inigo reminds me of my cat?"

[echo pivot]

I don’t think so

[quick hatch]

Literally crossing the College bridge right now and I wanted to see if Lucien had anything to say and he says THAT

[echo pivot]

Oh Damm

Also he had a cat

[misty sage]

Any update on Bethesda increasing mod space for consoles? Or did they dodge the request long enough that people stopped asking for it?

[keen fog]

People haven't stopped asking, Bethesda hasn't stopped responding in the more or less same way.

[honest python]

This question was answered. This is a technical problem on the Xbox side that has something to do with the storage partitions on an Xbox.

#modding-general message

[wind stag]

While this is true, BGS said a couple weeks back that they were successfully able to move LOs out of the saved partition, and the main issue that has always been parroted is that they don’t want to add to the partition because it would cause LOs to be wiped out. That is no longer an issue in theory with the new mechanics introduced in the last update so the partition expansion should be on the table now.

[honest python]

Interesting, thanks for the details 👀

[lucid aspen]

Given the number of people who had to wipe their load orders due to the last update breaking things, the idea that it can’t be done as it would wipe LOs has also become a lot less credible.

[broken wedge]

They've practically tripled our mod space as it is. How much more do you need?

Just putting this one out there: Beaten Path doesn't ay well with a lot of environmental mods.

[bold timber]

Hi, any cities of the north users know how to patch around the vigil enforcer armor not being compatible with cities of the north dawnstar

[terse shard]

When did they increase mod space? But think most on Xbox would say 10GB would be adequate.

[bold timber]

They increased the number of mods available to download to 255

[terse shard]

Ah yea. That’s not mod “space” in my mind. That’s mod number. And a great improvement for sure for some people. But for those that reach 4.96GB way before even 150 mods it does nothing.

And triple would be 450 right? They didn’t even double it.

[bold timber]

yea

[broken wedge]

Wait, you got only 255? I was up to almost 300 on Playstation before I reconfigured my LO.

[wind stag]

Actually ESL files are working too @terse shard and if they stay true to PC you can have 4096 ESL flagged mods now

[terse shard]

No way. That is great news. I had missed that change. Wow. If only the rest of the changes were working well I might decide to make a proof of concept LO to see how it would go with 255 esp plus max ESLs.

[wind stag]

Just be sure to use this mod to verify you don’t go over the 255 ESM/ESP limit or you will break your game. And don’t worry this is ESL flagged too:

https://creations.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/details/58671/

[terse shard]

Cool thanks

[sonic fern]

Yeah I now use rhat mod myself. Realized i have space for like 45 more mods marked esp/esm

I thought i was cutting it close with 251 mods but not as close as i thought

[oblique walrus]

@wind stag You are my hero, love your ports. Sorry I have been modding Skyrim for years and I just recently got into any discords or forums.

Would you be comfortable with me pm'ing you a dumb question? Not a mod request or anything just trying to figure something's out 😂

[wind stag]

Sure

[oblique walrus]

I figured it out, thank you though.

[clear gull]

uhhh my wet and cold keeps disabling itself and hiding from my LO

also my save’s corrupted cause of this. admittedly it’s probably my fault since i was messing with my load order and uninstalling things but things just keep moving and disabling themselves

what in the world

[echo pivot]

just wait for a fix next year from Bethesda

[clear gull]

hooray so fun!
i’m joking, i can’t really do that, as stupid as it sounds skyrim is a huge comfort & interest for me so it’s hard to back away from lol

[echo pivot]

that's not stupid but unfortunately, this update did jumbo up a lot of stuff so you have to workaround the issues for now

[clear gull]

mhm, i had no issues before i messed with things. slowly trying to reorganise my load order though, and it seems to be going ok. lots of things have been jumbled up and sit where they’re not supposed to

[echo pivot]

some issues can't be worked around tho so it's difficult

yea just be careful cuz it can happen again. i think a few ppl posted temporary workarounds for the shuffling issue on the main skyrim xbox mods reddit tho.

[clear gull]

definitely :( i started a new playthrough after fixing my LO post-update and everythingwas fine, i think bethesda just hates me lmao

thank you though! do you have any links for the workarounds?

[echo pivot]

ill have to look thru the subred n check

[clear gull]

thanks

[echo pivot]

ok the subred is full of complaints so imma just copy and paste this comment

what I do is never access the LO in the creations menu. I download the mods I wanna add then back out to dashboard. I then take my xbox offline and the. access the creations menu to disable/delete/ order my mods. Once they are ordered or if I wanna go back into the creations menu I close out, go back online, and then back into the creations menu. I NEVER access the LO menu while online

[clear gull]

i see, that sounds interesting and i’ll have to try it. thanks!

also, i fixed the corrupted save. turns out i have to have… all of the files i downloaded for w&c enabled

[echo pivot]

damn that same esp issue sucks if that's the solution

[misty sage]

A lot more than what we got lol, when did they add more space?

[broken wedge]

With the upgrade and update.

Its no longer by mod count.

[broken wedge]

Thank you! Imagine people being so dependent on the internet that they don't know how to function without it!

[terse shard]

Not space. Mod slots.

[misty sage]

I didn’t know that was a thing, whenever I asked for space it was more for memory like GB’s. In my playthroughs I never got close to mod slot capacity as I kept it pretty tame. Well what I’m asking for is mod space, not mod slots, my bad.

[terse shard]

Yea. More common to hit the mod space limit vs slots. But there are a lot of tiny mods out there that are great to use depending on the LO. And patches can add up quick. So it helps with patch heavy LOs for sure. That and Arthmoor villages.

[wind stag]

Arthmoor AiO would still be awesome... just sayin

[terse shard]

Yea but not as important anymore

[sonic fern]

It frees up esm slots. Its the same kinda way they get around the limit on pc with thousand mod load orders

My number of mods is 251 with 210 being esm/esp marked files
But with the bundles i use its prolly about 500-600 total mods

[terse shard]

True good point. Well not esm slots. ESP but yea

[sonic fern]

Everything in Reconciliation, all 3, Bushcraft, CF4, Shalidor's bundles, all in one's for jks stuff

And more im not remembering.

[terse shard]

Bundles are still awesome true

[slow raven]

Hello

[sonic fern]

But it isnt as important true. But its still good to have them
Hi

[slow raven]

Nice it is ok bye and good night @everybody

[sonic fern]

Lol

[slow raven]

[sonic fern]

Strong adhd

[terse shard]

Anyone else just get a friend request from power??

[pine crown]

No, but I'd be suspicious of that happening from someone out of the blue.

[sonic fern]

I did. Im gonna see where this takes me

Not gonna click links tho cuz thats sus.

[opal fox]

If you don't know a person just ignore any requests from them. You also don't run through a city and add people to your christmas cards list you never saw before in your life ^^. I personally don't like 99.9999999% of people in real life so why should i accept friend requests from them... just a thought.

[terse shard]

Yea I realize that. She just popped in that chat. Tried to @ everyone and frienddd whoever she saw it seems. Rather odd. Maybe something for the moderators.

[pearl wind]

whenever i launch skyrim with vortex mod manager, it doesn't show that i'm playing on steam but whenever i launch through steam, it says that skse64 isn't running even though i have the latest version of it and it works when launching with vortex, is there any way to fix this?

[mild shoal]

Hey, does USSEP or Reconciliation move the note to general tullius from the lord's mail creation?

Cause it's not in Castle Dour :/

[raw bluff]

USSEP does not touch any of the CC. I'm not sure they ever even rolled in the 4 that were added with the AE update.

[mild shoal]

It was probably some other mod I had. I'm not sure tbh. I made sure to reinstall all my CC stuff as well, just to be safe

[wind stag]

Reconciliation AE does, I would link the mod but it has been removed from Nexus and replaced with something else so that information might be outdated

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/87413

[sullen bane]

I think its safe to say that I haven't had any mod issues as of late, surprisingly. I've also learned that the a couple of the paid creator mods would seriously screw with my load order, since they would refuse to stay in their respective places.

[mild shoal]

I'll have to look for a fix then

[pine crown]

We did, because those are no longer separate purchases as of November 2021 when 1.6 released. (the 4 added ones, to be clear)

[vestal cape]

Does anyone know what happened to the Dragonbone Ebonsteel Armor? Its no longer anywhere on nexus, old or SE

[deep inlet]

was it made by Chakra? can ask him directly, if so.

[wind stag]

No this wasn't Chakra's

[craggy turret]

Looks like it was deleted from nexus, both Skyrim and Skyrim SE, but an oldrim version still available on steam. (Or at least still brings up the workshop page from google.) https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=100831822

@vestal cape sorry, forgot to tag

[safe vault]

Someone know mods that add cool endboss npcs to the overworld?

[vestal cape]

Thanks, I'll check this out. If nothing else, I'll just remake it myself since it only seems to use vanilla assets with some texture changes. When I was much, much younger i thought it had it's own unique mesh lol.

[alpine pivot]

attend

[sonic fern]

A lot of the stuff added by Lagrie adds world bosses

They always have armors for you to get. His darksouls bosses were some of the toughest just by there health alone. But those seemed to have been removed if your talking xbox

[grim vale]

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/107641/

[zinc cradle]

Anyone know why the Dragonborn creation patches are causing issues.

I cannot put the Bow of Shadows in the display and I went and download the patches no dice . I think it even crashes.

[mystic pike]

Quick question,are community shaders and ENB's able to be used on Xbox?

[indigo bronze]

What does the tag saying moderated mean? When I tried to find gdb elden beast it wasn't showing up on my searches and the link I got to it showed that there was something that said moderated next to add to library button

[sonic fern]

I had the same question. Apparently it means it broke some tos at one point but i dont see how simce the porters always have perms

[sonic fern]

This is gonna sound pointless but i have not seen even a single attempt to port an enb. Ive seen nudie mods and killable potatos and playable potatos and skimpy outfits and lewd animations getting ported, even if they get taken down within a week, but ive seen like no attempts to do an enb

[mystic pike]

Well wonder why do people not port ENB's

[sonic fern]

Either it isnt possible
To difficult to port it with no configuration menu
Or just never crossed anyones mind

We have ENB like mods that allow full changes to like everything from bloom to color grading and so on. Like Dawn weathers has it

[raven marsh]

It's not possible to have ENB on Xbox for basically the same reason you can't have the Script Extender either.

[terse shard]

And “ENB like” is really just not a thing. Nothing comes close to ENB without ENB.

[mystic pike]

I've got another question,has anybody ported racemenu to Xbox?

[raven marsh]

Requires the Script Extender.

[mystic pike]

So there can't be a way to port it

[raven marsh]

Nope

[sonic fern]

There are mods that add racemenu like features but really it just switches what sliders do what

[little path]

Any ini command to send to xbox and disable that auto mod organizer from LO? It's breaking my LO and my entire gameplay

[deep inlet]

so far from testing, new ini mods/updates aren't working at all

[sonic fern]

Organize it offline it seems to work for most people including myself @little path

[echo pivot]

Anyone play FO4 cuz i need help

[sonic fern]

I do

[thick fulcrum]

#fallout-4-chat or #fallout-4-mods is probably a better spot to ask

[shy mantle]

hello, i've been advised to write here concerning my ongoing issues with skyrim ae....could anybody help me debug an issue i'm having with modded skyrim please? since i've reached hjaalmarch (Morthal surroundings) it's been freezing and crashing... it's quite annoying. Now i'm stuck in whiterun (crashes when I leave).. any idea how I can fix it? I've sank like 40 hours in this save.

Idk if im using crashlogger right, but it doesn't generate logs

[sage echo]

Xbox is a closed system. You don't have access to the file system outside the data folder. If the file structure on Xbox follows Game Pass structure on PC, then there's a possibility that the games themselves are set up like Windows apps. (We have no way of knowing if one is not in the Xbox developers program and there are NDAs prohibiting saying anything anyway). Regardless, if ENB has to be installed outside the data folder and modifies the game's binary, it is impossible to add.

[echo pivot]

Im also having isues with skyrim im on xbox and the controls for things like search and load order arnt working

[pine crown]

Even if ENB or CS were inside the Data folder, XBox copies don't allow for 3rd party DLLs to execute at runtime.

[sage echo]

Submit a bug report to Bethesda about the search. Make sure to tell them the type of controller you are using (elite, standard, custom, etc) https://help.bethesda.net
(it might be easier to use the creations website search for now)

I'm currently having a cookie issue with the Bethesda api so I cannot link the Bethesda instructions for how to fix things. This is what I did to get things organized:
Go through your mods on the website, cull them, and organize them there, first. Use the website to write down what you want your load order to look like, and then go in-game and purge any saves associated with your old load order (adding or removing changes the load order and makes the save unstable or creates bugs in it). A fresh install of everything may be what you have to do. The database change seems to have changed a lot of things under the hood. After you have everything organized, download the new load order after you've organized and or purged everything on your Xbox. If you write down your load order and keep the mod list fairly short, it's much easier to manage.

If you need a template to sort, there are several floating around on the web. I use this template; it doesn't use macros: https://bit.ly/LogicalLoadOrder

Once I got everything organized on the website, in-game management was much easier.

[bleak pulsar]

Did the mob limit get removed for Xbox I saw some people on here with mote than 150 mods

[raw bluff]

It's now at the regular plug-in limit. 255.

[pulsar wing]

and with ESL support.

[pine crown]

So does that mean the system will let people download more than 255 mods?

[sage echo]

As a follow up to that question, does Skyrim have the same texture archive limit as FO4? Because that could get really problematic, really fast.

[pine crown]

If that's the same thing as the STDIO file handles limit, then yes, and that would stop you once you hit 512 files. Which can be either .esp/m/l or .bsa files in any combination.

[sage echo]

oof. o hai home screen.

[sonic fern]

Yes you can download what seems like an infinite number. Its up to the user to smartly only have a max of 255 esm/esp limit and the rest be esls

[pine crown]

That seems like a potential recipe for disaster.
It's also technically 244 since the games official masters count toward the limit, and there are 9 of those. FE (254) is reserved for ESL mapping, and FF (255) is the save game.

[sonic fern]

It was when mods first launched on console. We didn't have the limit. People complaining ended up with us getting locked to 150 in the first place. I rather have people who dont wanna learn brick there game till they wipe there mods then be limited again

[pine crown]

I think it would be sensible for Bethesda to limit at 244 non-ESL files and allow more if they're ESL flagged but that's probably more complication than it would be worth.

[sonic fern]

The problem with there ui is. I dont think it counts what its flagged as, only the total number of mods. At least thats what the ui leads anyone to believe

It doesn't and has never cared if a mod is marked esl. It still took up a slot.

This is still the case for fallout 4. At least now we on console can use esl mods properly

[pine crown]

They control the entire chain so if they wanted to implement it, they could. Assuming it was even worth it to do so.

[terse shard]

Even 150 or far less can be a recipe for disaster for people who don’t understand modding on console. But for those that can why not?

[terse shard]

I have heard ESL works now on Xbox.

[sonic fern]

This is simpler. Enough time has passed. People have learned. How would you like it if pc modding suddenly got locked from as many as your system can handle to 150 mods

[terse shard]

Yea people have learned a lot since SSE release and console are far more capable now too.

[sonic fern]

Esl has always "worked" far as the actual esp count the game takes into account. But it still took up a slot because bethesdas counter didnt care what file type the mod used

[terse shard]

Yea I meant they don’t count towards the limit anymore. Haven’t tested it myself. But that’s what I am hearing.

[pine crown]

PC isn't a walled garden with strict controls imposed by the platform so this would never have any logical reason for happening.

[sonic fern]

It doesnt. There is a mod tommas put out that actually counts your esp count so if your smart and use it you can actually find out how close to the limit your at

[thick fulcrum]

Does the ingame mod launcher even mention if a mod is esl or esl flagged?
And where does it mention it on the website?

[sonic fern]

Mod authors have to say it themselves or you can use tonmas' mod "Just Checking" to find out how mant esp/esm mods you got

My total load order is 255 or so but 210 of them are actually esm/esp modsm the rest are flagged esl or are esl

He explained how it worked a few days ago. Pretty much if you got like idk 300 mods and only like see it mark 6 mods. Then you have to many esm files because it resets the counter at 255. So long as you dont go over it your good

Its a great tool. Tommas makes some good mods. Brings some stuff that was skse only but to console but with a different method

@thick fulcrum sorry about the raw tag. Just wanted to know i responded to you and forgot to hit the respond to button lmao

[deep inlet]

you give the average xbox player wayyyy too much credit for how knowledgeable they are. literally go on reddit at any point ever and you'll see the majority of people do not know what they're doing lol.

n that's not necessarily their fault, but it's the reality

[thick fulcrum]

That's just the average person though.

[little path]

I think ini files still working, cuz my translation works normally and it haves a ini file to configure the language

[deep inlet]

if it hasn't been updated since before the skyrim update, that's why. anything added post-update isn't.

[little path]

I had to update lol, since it brought new things to translate like the new creations menu

[deep inlet]

weird wonder why recon's ini just entirely isn't working then
how do you upload yours?

[little path]

normally, same name of the esp

when I dont upload, the interface doesn't change, only the texts of dialogue, quests, items...

[sonic fern]

I could care less about the woes of people who step into modding treating it like its as simple as installing it and forgetting. There is 10 years of modding history to this game alone. If they are some how unaware of this then they deserve any issues they get.

[deep inlet]

couldn't care less*

whether you care about the most common denominator is irrelevant, the fact that they exist is enough. they aren't buying YOUR game.

[sonic fern]

No. I meant it how i said it. I could care less.
If you wanna promote a 150 limit again thats on you. Im all for the new unlimited system

[deep inlet]

☝️🤓 actually "could care less" means you care enough for there to be less care possible. so you do care. "couldn't care less" means you don't care at all. but sure, double down on the incorrect syntax 🤷🏻‍♀️

i never said i was for the 150 limit, i just pointed out that you were ignoring the fact that the average player is not as knowledgeable about this stuff, and some kind of warning at the least should have been kept.

[sonic fern]

I care because those bafoons could get the mod cap put back on us for not doing even a tiny bit of research

So id prefer we just ignore them and forget they exsist so the rest of us can enjoy a good thing

[deep inlet]

so you do care, so "could care less" was a non-statement because you tried to lead with that as to why the opinions and experiences of less-knowledgeable players doesn't matter.

bro it's so easy to just admit you used the wrong term lmao

[sonic fern]

I don't care if i was wrong or right man. Point is. Ignore the people who cant research. They can suffer by wiping there load orders every hour

[thick fulcrum]

Either way. It would be good for the enduser if the interface was easier to understand and showed your number of esm/esp and esl/esl flagged mods

[sonic fern]

That much is true. Or a separate counter for both when checking your load order

[deep inlet]

quite literally my entire point. any kind of onboarding assistance from them directly would be nice, even if it was literally just a bit more detail than the current "mods can break your game be careful!"

cuz evidently the soft 150 cap wasn't enough, mostly because people didnt even know why it existed in the first place... because no explanation was given on even the basics of modding from the developer whose game is being modified

[thick fulcrum]

Explaining how mods work. What esm, esp, and esl are.
The ba2 limit, etc.

There is so much that is just learned by users instead of actually being explained by Bethesda

Even the Bethesda.net website seems to not have any actual info on this stuff.

[deep inlet]

literally the esm, esp and esl would be enough for me to be somewhat satisfied. if people have to do any amount of google searching about the basic function of what you officially endose as a feature of your games, maybe you shouldn't be officially endorsing it?

or at least give some info? like at all?

[sonic fern]

Dangerous thoughts there. Now we might not get mod support for starfield

[deep inlet]

good. let it die

[sonic fern]

No i need my cowboy bebop crew modded in cuz the main crew vas arenin the game

And the outpost system expanded so its actually good

[sage echo]

Many of the definitions of basic modding stuff are on the wiki. Not the in-game manager, mind, but enough information to get started. More information needs to be added for regular players though

[sonic fern]

I can get by with guesswork and tutorials.

[deep inlet]

ive seen more and more people saying the building system of 4 and 76 were actually better. definitely a preference thing, but it's not a good sign if people are willing to say that Fallout 76 did something better

[thick fulcrum]

Fo76 also had bunkers.
Which are pretty cool, and sad we can't have underground bunkers in starfield

[deep inlet]

tutorials only exist because of a lack of information from the source material. that's the point being made.

[sonic fern]

Yeah the settlement items in 76 were an improvement on fallout 4. But mods fix that. But you expect me to build anhouse and you give me like 2 chairs and a couch in starfield like what am i gonna make with this

[sage echo]

Fallout 76 has the best visual storytelling outside of all the Fallouts. The game world is very detailed. Unfortunately it is multiplayer

[sonic fern]

They really went beyond what anyone asked for

We wanted, co-op fallout and co op elder scrolls. What we got was an MMO and a psudo mmo. So far from what we actually wanted its funny

[sage echo]

Not sure why this is being talked about in SSE mods tho

[deep inlet]

it doesnt feel like a multiplayer game, i think that's the core problem. doesnt help that soooooooo many quests just straight don't operate and progress properly in co-op. i mean, Morrowind multiplayer works more cohesively than Fallout76

[sonic fern]

Because conversations flow like water and no one wants to swap tabs just to continue conversations

[sage echo]

I hate multiplayer so I don’t have an issue with how it’s set up. It was ruined a few updates back so I’m done with it.

[deep inlet]

ESO isnt a bad game tbf. it was heavily muddied by people expecting a Skyrim-Online esque experience. there's definitely criticisms to be made (jesus christ the lore contradictions drive me insane alone) but i'd say it was a success at what it was trying to be.

[final timber]

Let's get back to discussing Skyrim mods, people.

[sonic fern]

I would love just one, one, co-op tes or fallout game. A singleplayer rpg like they always make with just some coop functionality like how skyrim online mod works

[sage echo]

But as far as Skyrim modding goes, the limit is going to be problematic for every day users

[sonic fern]

The 5gb limit is already limiting. I dont use texture mods because of it.

[sage echo]

On PC, there’s a crash logger to diagnose when you hit the file limit and are crashing. I agree with Arthmoor. 244 plug-ins should be there since the 255 includes all game plugins

[sonic fern]

Yeah but then what of esl marked mods? On console at least it doesnt seem bethesda has made an attempt in the past to let them go over tje limit. If they gave us a 244 limit it would be a 244 limit of everything. Even esl mods that arnt the problem

[deep inlet]

you can't fit a texture overhaul in 5gb? most of the comprehensive aio's are around 1gb. do you just throw in a bunch of new items to obtain instead? (not a rude remark, just genuinely curious)

[sage echo]

Hitting that limit is no bueno and difficult to understand if you’ve never crashed before

[sonic fern]

I replace most every armor and weapon and add a bunch more in. I change every base game mechanic in some way and have added a bunch more as well

@deep inlet https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PzesTTtG-4nVdPFrGsSDYjC8VUbYKI-Yiv1h6YfSv_Y/edit?usp=drivesdk

[deep inlet]

not necessarily, it comes down to if they'd be doing a download cap or a plug-in cap. but as arth pointed out, the latter is probably much more complicated (if possible at all) 🤔

[sonic fern]

The 150 was a download cap

Also i know my lo is crap. Im not changing it. My fallout 4s is more in line with the proper lo organization

I had to forgo so many patches back when 150 was the limit. It sucked just hoping for the best

[deep inlet]

ahhh, nice. i eventually switched to trying more graphics/audio overhaul oriented stuff because i found myself almost never playing long enough to see all the new items i was adding that's why i could never be bothered with LOTD for a full run. such a big sacrifice for (imo) nowhere near enough fun.

[sage echo]

Only faces and some wood textures look weird on Series X. Whiterun and Riften’s boards have strange mipmapping that stretches too much when standing close

[deep inlet]

yea, the 150 was a download cap. but we just don't know if that was a choice they made, or if it had to be a download cap.

[sonic fern]

I agree with ykhr opinion on lotd.

All my stuff i can aquire rather easily since most of my new items are added pretty early or craft early and i always force my smithing to 100 cuz i cant be asked to grind that anymore

I replace skin textures and some faces, also the children, i cant live with there vanilla looks. So terrible.

Poor kids. All cursed to be potatos.

[sage echo]

There isn’t anything that makes them look less strange. Lol

[sonic fern]

I use the mod The Kids are Alright Renewal

[sage echo]

The only ones I’ve seen give them Giraffe necks

[sonic fern]

With its wild child addon to add more unique adoption options. Like bandit kids or skeleton children

[deep inlet]

yeahhh the grind is hellish unfortunately. even with xp boosts and perk overhauls it's so tedious crafting 4000 dwarven bows. instead, cheat room has one handy button for all my troubles

[sage echo]

I don’t need more ankle biters in my game, thanks. Ew.

[sonic fern]

Idk i dont think the kids are alright has any problems with the models. It even gives them new clothes. Mostly modified vanilla ones but still

[deep inlet]

i thought the bandit kids had to be removed due to ToS not allowing violence towards children? or did they just get put in passive god mode like vanilla kids?

[sonic fern]

The later.

They are marked just like every other child in the base game as immortal undamagable monsters who cant die

They have no combat ai as a result and will flee just like any other child when killing there families

Then they will forget you killed all the bandits they called family and whine about being an orphan

I use it cuz if i ever wanna be a lich or somthing i got options for undead children to adopt to fit the themes. Or be like a necromancer who raised his dead children or whatever

Not that you can kill them. They come already as skeletons. But you get my point. Just some light roleplay to justify it

[sage echo]

That… does not sound entertaining in the slightest. There are more interesting things to download. But eh.

[sonic fern]

I have literally everything else. You saw my load order. Ive replaced, expanded, added to and modified everything

[sage echo]

I did not click. I’m currently on phone and at a Xmas party. (Bored AF lol)

[sonic fern]

From player Animations, dialog, npc interactions, perks for werewolves, vampires and humans, changed race traits, changed standing stones, added two flavors of hunting mechanics because one has features the other doesnt, overhauled archery, changed npc ai for combat and out of combat, changed combat mechanics, expanded every major town and city in some way shape or form

[sage echo]

I’ll take your word for it

[sonic fern]

Changed most every armor in the game, added new armors, added new weapons. Changed the start. Added some new mechanics, a lot of new mechanics

[sage echo]

I just like playing Skyrim with a little extra.

I’d like to find some stuff that expands the lore and adds new quests I haven’t played before

[pine crown]

As I mentioned before, Bethesda controls the entire chain of upload. The CK can give the site the information it needs.
OR the site itself could check the .esp or .esm file to see if it also carries ESL.
Either way they could gather this information directly from the uploaded file and then pass that info along to the end user.
There'd be no need for guesswork.

[sonic fern]

The only thing i dont add is quest/new area mods unless its like tied to an armor i want because there is always quests ive either forgotten about or just have never done before that i can find

[sage echo]

Enable BDK logging. It’s an eye opener of what info they’re collecting. 😂

[sonic fern]

The closest we have to this is the mod just checking thay counts all the esp/esm plugins you have downloaded and shows it to you in game

[pine crown]

I don't know what BDK logging is.

[sage echo]

BKD? I’ll have check when I get home which setting that is. It’s on the CK custom

It’s the network debugger. I@should probably disable it for normal stuff but had issues a while back with uploading and recently with my account where it was necessary

[pine crown]

At no point did I mention using a mod for this. I'm talking about something BGS themselves can do during either the upload stage or a post-upload information gathering stage.

[sage echo]

Point is, yes. They have full control of the information.

[sonic fern]

No i know. Im just saying there exsists a way to check right now thanks to some one else modding it in. Bethesda should do it themselves sure. But we both know they wont

[pine crown]

We don't actually know they won't. They may not have thought to do it.

[sage echo]

We never expected this much support this far into the future. And what Arthmoor said

[sonic fern]

Idk man if they worked how you dreamed up they would your unofficial patch wouldn't be needed

[pine crown]

It would because no game will ever be 100% bug free. That's just a fact.

[sage echo]

There are very few games that don’t have unofficial patches made by their modding community

[sonic fern]

Yeah but most games dont need a huge unofficial patch to run without breaking. Like gow the Dark Brotherhood can hitch on the loadscreen transition in the fire

And then just never load the next sceen. Thats something another studio would of fixed. Granted there games are less buggy then ever

[pine crown]

I think you'd be surprised at just how many games need one but can't get one because they aren't even moddable.

[sonic fern]

Fallout 4 is noticeably less buggy then skyrim and starfield even less then the previous.

I still dont understand where all the hate for the starfield bugs comes from but thats not for this channel nor this conversation

[sage echo]

Uh. What? I played the full game on Xbox 360. The only thing that “broke” was serana because I bumped into her.

Ohh. Are there mods now to kill her off before having to do the vampire crap?

[sonic fern]

Probably.

[pine crown]

If there's not someone is likely to make it now 😛

[sonic fern]

Just like. you meet sarana, meet her dad. Kill all the vampires. Dawnguard completes

[sage echo]

Kinda want to attempt… she has had my ire since she wiped out Morthal

[pine crown]

lol, she wiped out Morthal?

[sonic fern]

Why did you shoot that guard then? Or did her ai bug and she agro'd the town

[sage echo]

Yup. I had to start a new game. I bumped into her during a fight with.. what’s his face. Wears iron armor, weird hairstyle. Hireling

She took it upon herself to wipe out everything and me. No idea why anyone likes her.

[sonic fern]

Cuz she was the only follower with some actual personality

[pine crown]

Well she's never done anything like that with me, so she's given me no reason to hate her 😛

[sonic fern]

Like its why i love Cait so much in fallout 4. Everyone likes piper tho for some reason. I get why peeps like Nick tho.

Starfield tho idk. Andreja is great and all but no Cait.

Anyway when they have a personality like Serana has and when every other follower is a lydia it kinda makes sense

Then again people like Lydia dispite all the abuse they throw her way.

[sage echo]

The followers in FO4 and FONV feel like actual people and the ones in other games feel more shallow. Skyrim’s works since you can roleplay their personalities. Starfield has quests and likes but the keywords on objects and at certain points during free form exploration feel bugged or unfinished. But I feel like I’m playing that game incorrectly

I like the more blank slate followers from Skyrim for role playing

But if the Starfield ones would stop getting on to me for collecting money, I’d probably like them better. I want to be space rich guys, thanks

[sonic fern]

You might be. I still gotta finish my starfield playthrough. If i didn't delete my save by accident I prolly would of been deep into ng+ by now had it not milled my motivation to keep playing when i lost my 270 damage per shot revolver thing and my 47 per shot space vector that was way beyond what i could find at my level

But if that didnt happen i wouldnt of been here realizing rhe mess beth made of skyrim once they updated the ui

[terse shard]

Serana AI is way better than other vanilla followers.

[sonic fern]

I hate how the option all of constilation likes is a freaking biological weapon and not the safe and secure space cows

[sage echo]

All she does is go to furniture objects while the player idles. I’m surprised there isn’t a mod that changes the others AI packages

[sonic fern]

Idk with AFT they all do that if auto relax is on

[sage echo]

Eh. Too much scripting for something that should be simple

[terse shard]

Main thing is she “follows” better. Stay closer. Fights well. Doesn’t get lost as easily as Lydia and others.

[sage echo]

Oh. I don’t use followers normally. I keep killing them off. Too many times have I accidentally shot one and then had to tote my stuff home.

[sonic fern]

I dont use Followers because they love running into battle like crazy people

[sage echo]

Jenassa or Farkas if I choose anyone

Jenassa for when I’m tank and need her. Farkas for when I’m stealth and need a tank.

[deep inlet]

jenassa my favourite follower

[plain birch]

Lydia has got to be one of my favorites. Doesn't unnecessarily inject themselves in things or give quirky little quips. Her or Jenassa definitely. I think it's cause they are the first two followers you really have a choice of taking unless you go with Unbroken

[sage echo]

Lydia doesn’t tank well enough to be useful to my play style. The only time she was really fun was the first time I completed the Companions quest. My character was female, she was female, and Aela was female, and Farkas was all, “Naw. Crawlies. I’m out” and split. I laughed so hard. Was like, “hell yeah, girl power.” ROFL

I do wish followers in general did have more quips and comments. Erandur does, but they get repetitive, He’s sometimes my go to if playing a spellsword. He tanks fairly well and has fire for backup. Vaermina is one of my favorite Daedric Princes and I like Erandur’s quest. It’s memorable.

Most the time though, it’s just wandering and exploring without a follower.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[last crescent]

im having trouble uploading nexus mods can i get some help

[peak mesa]

Please only ping us for Discord Emergencys as per #rules

[last crescent]

my bad

[peak mesa]

Nexus is not our site, you would need to contact the site owners. Or some of the community that is present in here can assist.

[last crescent]

i mean i cant upload them into skyrim how do i a mod pack to work in game

[peak mesa]

From my personal knowledge, there are videos out there that step-by-step you through on how to do that. Quite a few creators on Nexus have links for that. I would also recommend contacting the author of the mod listed on Nexus

[honest python]

Here is also a link to the Nexus discord via a link from their main site. https://www.nexusmods.com/news/12870
Though I wouldnt expect staff to be able to help you unless their is an actual site problem.

That link is busted because of how old it is. Id just post the discord link but the Mod-Bot here will probably have a meltdown if I try. This server is difficult to communicate in.

[peak mesa]

Go ahead and link it, if dyno eats it, i will repost it

https://discord.gg/nexusmods

[plain birch]

I think the reason I like Lydia so much was recently she tanked really good for me, distracted them enough for me to get the critical hit in on the back to drop them and she went straight to fight another. Saved my butt a few times so it was just cool.

I do wish they did have more quips, and there's a mod that gives them more quips, but all the same I like her a lot.

Also that is hilarious lmao

[raw bluff]

Next time you are in Solstheim pick up Teldryn Sero. He's got just about the right balance of quips.

[hybrid halo]

I am on the XBSX and though the Creation Club update is pretty good, it borked a few mods. One mod called "The Smelter Of Infinity" while loads, has the teleportation spells not functioning except for one. I tried looking for the mod, but it is not listed. Anyone have any ideas? Also the name of the creator of that mod is "asrussell2011" but cannot find them here or online elsewhere. They updated this particular mod just a few weeks before the Creation Club update was released. Happy Holidays everyone! 🎅 ❄️ ☃️ 🎄

[craggy turret]

You might like Mjoll. She's got stories to tell, and she's essential.

[echo pawn]

I installed the skyrim high king mod and it's not working when I start a new game. Can anyone help me? Please and thank you

[graceful lantern]

Is anyone familiar with the Xbox mod pack EPOCH? If yes, do you know if I can find it on nexus?

[civic rampart]

Is there an tbbp and bbp cbbe armor fit

[sonic fern]

Not the pack itself but all of the mods used are on nexus. Mod packs like this are mostly a console thing or an all in one bundle made by the MA themselves. All of the nexus links are in the mod page so just go one by one through each mod if your trying to bring what it adds to pc

Now there ARE load order tools that have pre-built load orders that kinda do the same thing as a mod pack. But they download each mod individually for you instead of a pack being a single download

[craggy turret]

@frail jungle https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/106418 Forgot I was in skyrim chat, not the mod channel. Here too, in case they delete.

[wet chasm]

Hi I’m trying to do all spells n powers mod and I’m in ferengers room trying to activate button by dresser but it’s not going

[gilded condor]

You could ask the mod author who is in here. Troubleshooting options are obviously very limited to you on console from your end. If you're not able to get it resolved, trying a different one or implementing your own for PlayStation is always an option.

[craggy turret]

@rapid shadow Just above this. 🙂

[rapid shadow]

Thank you!

[surreal void]

When launching through vortex the game is not tracking on steam. is there any fix for that? because if i launch directly from steam the mods break and some of them dont work properly

[latent violet]

Just a word of advice for all mod users: One reason why your Skyrim game is going funny is because there are a number of files that are “dirty”, so remember to use SSEEdit before and after your updates.

[stoic portal]

Just spent half an hour reorganizing my LO and after saving it to bethesda.net it completely got messed up again and restoring the LO doesn’t work either. Bethesda is really not fixing this??

[terse shard]

#modding-news message

[zinc cradle]

I use MO2 so I don’t have issues accept with LOTD CC patches anyone have any suggestions as how to fix it? Because if this I cannot put bow of shadows in my display. It is possible I broke something and it is not the authors fault

I tried loot but I wonder if I just need to sort any ideas?

[opaque hazel]

Hey guys! Silly question but I’m somewhat new to modding especially with PC. I was wondering if I’m able to use both Bethesda and Nexus mods together?

[eager sluice]

Since they updated the bethesda.net website, is there any easy way to just clear out all of the mods in my library on there? Playing on xbox, and I finally got it back, and I just wanna clear out everything.

[gilded condor]

Yes you can.

[clear gull]

clear your reserved space maybe? not sure if you mean “clear all your mods” as in disable / remove them all from your LO or just from your library in general

if it’s the latter, i’ve no idea sorry 😭

[eager sluice]

Yeah ?/ bad lol, mainly meant the latter, because there's like 700 mods just sitting there and I wanna clear all of them out but see no easy way to do it.

[clear gull]

oh my god, felt, i have no idea how to do that. it’s so irritating having them stick there, and when you don’t reinstall them & want to remove them, you have to install and delete and then it just adds onto the ghost space bug ☹️☹️ arghh

[sonic fern]

You know you guys can log into the website, go to the tab that shows whats in your library and then remove them one by one till only the mods you wanna keep to see in the library are there

I had to wipe nearly 7 thousand mods from my thing because bethesda in all there glory had shoved every mod i have ever used ever ibto my library and bookmarks and i had to do some house cleaning

[clear gull]

fr? thought that was just for bookmarked mods

[sonic fern]

It happened for my library too. Took me two full days. Like 8-12 hours of just clicking remove

I was watching a youtube video as i slowly went through it cuz it was that tedious

[amber furnace]

Did you try the Reset button ? Never dared to try ... It should wash all entries. Probably not the creation club ones I guess.

[sonic fern]

There is a reset button?
To be fair I didnt explore the site and only looked at the quickest method to removing them. That was manually doing it one by one

[eager sluice]

This is exactly what's happened to me.
If there's a reset button
I'd be so damn happy

Unless you're talking about this
But it doesn't seem to do anything
I think it just resets the filters

[sonic fern]

Oh lmao

Well then do it the tediously slow way like the rest of us and waste 2 full days doing it

[eager sluice]

Probably what I'm gonna do
Wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have to open a new page for EVERY SINGLE MOD
Because it won't let me just click on it to remove it, it opens up the page itself and then I gotta click remove
So frickin stupid

I could just make a new account
But I don't wanna

[amber furnace]

Yes, that was it. At least now I know it is useless 👍👍👍 By the way, still in Filters, you can switch the display mode to a list. This will let you select/unselect both bookmark and library without opening the mod page. But of course you will be set back to the top of the page ... Each time

[eager sluice]

Geezus...
I mean, I might see about it eventually
But that's absolute hell

[sonic fern]

Hover over it for a second and then click the remove

[amber furnace]

I switch between 4 different LO in my playthroughs. I had to rebuild 3 of them because of the UI issue. The 4th is new. I anticipated some possible issues when I saw that the updates lasted that long so I recorded a video of all LO while we were forced offline.

[terse shard]

BGS suggestion: put a warning on the main screen or mod menu loading screen that warns people about using UI mods until a fix is pushed

[eager sluice]

Aaaaaand done
Well, sorta
Now I gotta get rid of all of the bookmarks

Speaking of Creation, I know somebody said it a while back, and I noticed it too the other day.

Does Kontrol still mess up the entire creation menu?

[devout valve]

@steady egret @still galleon @sour birch @bronze aurora @grim summit @vagrant ivy @grave kernel (and several others whose names have changed or are no longer here)

I've updated the Ring (and Scrolls) of Quest-Fixing [for XBox and PS4/PS5] to include potential fixes to the quests you reported you had issues with:
"A New Source of Stalhrim", "Harsh Master", "Ill Met by Moonlight", "Kill the Bandit leader at [X]", "Kill the leader of [X]", "Missing in Action", "Moss Mother Cavern", "Rescue", "Season Unending", "The Horn of Jurgen Windcaller", and "The Savior of Selveni Nethri".

Let me know if you're now able to progress your quests, and if so, enjoy!
For others who have requested fixes, those are still in the queue, so sit tight.

[steady egret]

Absolute unit. Thx

[devout valve]

57 requests to go 😁

[summer brook]

I need an assistance with something how do i see what a mod requires im specifically looking into downloading the ars metallica mod for xbox but it says "this creation cannot be installed since it depends of files that arnt present"

[deep inlet]

USSEP.

[summer brook]

i hope that dosent screw up my other stuff in my load order

also there seams to be two versions of it XD im gunna go with the one with {XB1} in the title since they both have 140.2kb in size

ok wth theres two USSEPs aswell

one with {XB1} and one without am i seeing PC mods somehow on the bethesda ingame site on my xbox XD

[summer brook]

wheres USSEP useually go? im gunna have it high up at the very top of my loadorder above LOTD

[deep inlet]

it's a master file, so it'll jump to the top anyway. but with other master files like LOTD, yeah make sure USSEP is always at the very top.

[summer brook]

rip the restoration bug to get super duper carryweight boots

[deep inlet]

there's now two versions because Bethesda added cross-platform uploading. the [XB1] versions are currently functionally identical to the other, but will not be further updated going forward. so currently it doesn't matter which you use, but i'd recommend using the other version(s).

[summer brook]

right thats my LO updated XD now to start the game again for the 7000th time