#skyrim-se-mods
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Evil content? That doesn't make sense.
Yep. Welcome back.
Thats what im sayin
interesting. @teal moat did you also comment on the starfield posts? just trying to assess what they're putting you guys through for your paycheck
just trying to figure out what the company's actual approach to community engagement is. "don't complain in front of us" definitely seems like the vibe.
No it doesn’t definitely thought it meant something different 😂
I agree
You can have issues with things, just keep it respectful and civil, especially towards other users.
I never did say i was smart😂🫡
woah, the maintenance updates ARE in line with how you talk to us in general, huh?
Uh oh. U guys are gonna get in trouble
Definitly doable. I'll throw my perception of responsibility out the window & adopt yours
Have there been any good audio mods that came out for Xbox over the last couple years?
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Cook
What is slow mode?😂
No spamming mode
Hey are there any good graphics mods that make the game look less like clay on ps4
Look for any mod made by Rum or CC
Can rn but I’ll try when It’s back up
i've learned from my flaws. let's talk about paid mods, and why they're bad for the community.
& I don't mean creation club
Is the mod author named CC or is that an abriviation/acronam
probably. I don't pay attention
Do you know if they’re on ps4
They are. A lot of them don’t show up when you search for them tho so you have to favorite them thru the site to access them on the console
Are the ones you use like that or can you search for them
Anyone got know of any modlists specific to expanding game play/ new areas/big quest lines for xbox? Having a hard time finding anything that specific on google
I used a pastebin document that had direct links to each and every mod on Bethesda.net. It’s basically an entire load order page. I could send if you’d like
Sure
Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.
And I doubt it but are the mods back up
The mods I was referring to start under the Special FX section
We'll be getting info about that tomorrow #modding-news
Ok do we know why matinace had to be done just wondering
No, i think it's simply just one of those things that needs to be done, it's just taking an unusually long time for whatever reason
Hey you’re a mod right
Nope lol, my role is the freestar collective from starfield, got it before the release when they did a little hype channel type thing
Hopefully the update isn't gonna be sweeping changes requiring a bunch of mod updates/patches for CC mods
Given how long it's taking my hopes aren't high
Is there any way to add mods to the load order without using the mods menu? i wanna test out a mod I already have downloaded (just not enabled) but i can't do that while the servers are down....
I have no more information to provide than what is in the announcements, my apologies.
very fair
For consoles, load order cannot be adjusted while the Mods service is down, as a connection is required to access this. We know this is inconvenient during maintenance, but it is a necessary requirement.
totally get it! is there a way to adjust it on PC? like a particular configuration file I should look for? I don't use vortex or other third-party mod loaders
Ah drat. I was going to recommend Nexus and MO2.
I really hope the maintenance gets done soon. I’m stuck due to the bloodskal blade bug and can’t go anywhere unless I load a much earlier save.
Tomorrow hopefully.
I feel your pain. I hope they finish as well, so long as they finish with the best quality possible
Hello everyone, I am an Xbox user, I cannot mod, do you know an estimate of when the maintenance will end?
We'll know more at 1200 EST tomorrow. Updates have been coming in #modding-news
thank you friend 🙏🏻
anyone know if they are doing paid mods?
Nope. There is no such information on that.
ngl after this maintenance thing ends i do wanna try beyond skyrim
gotcha
Mods that use SKSE shouldn’t be affected by this maintainence, right?
We don't even know if it'll affect games, or if it's entirely back end stuff.
My game seems to work fine at the moment so I’m hopeful it won’t change anything too major to the point where it makes some mods unplayable :/
Maintenance is still ongoing, so they haven't changed anything client side yet - and might not be doing so at all.
will non bethesda mods work still?
I really hope they don’t 😭
If you're not using the in-game mods menu or the in-game CC menu then you are not affected by it. The players most affected by the maintenance are those on consoles.
Ah okay, Thank you!
so can i still add mods if i install them from like nexus or something
seems like so
I just installed a couple mods from Nexus a couple hours ago and my game worked fine so i think you’re good
Correct. It's only the mods coming from bethnet that are inaccessible during the maintenance.
can i have some advice on how to add them to my game cause i forgot and its not working
Ideally you would use a mod manager such as MO2.
and that'll work with nexus?
Yes.
If you're going the MO2 route though you usually want to do a fresh reinstall and then download everything through MO2 unless it specifically needs to be set up separately (like Engine Fixes and so on). This isn't a good time to do this if you'd normally get them through Bethesda though, since you can't easily get a list of what you already have.
reinstall skyrim?
If you do get a mod manager I also highly recommend looking up a tutorial video series on YouTube. There is an initial learning curve and some essential steps that you don't want to skip which the tutorials usually cover.
The reason why you'd usually want to do a fresh reinstall with MO2 is so that you've got a clean base to work from, and no bits of mods left lying around in the folders.
Like Skyler says, the tutorial videos are a really good idea since there's a fair bit to set up.
Note that you can save yourself some download time on reinstalling if you save the main data files for the game that are usually a few gigabytes in size such as Skyrm.esm.
is there a way to get around a reinstall?
Technically you can avoid a full reinstall either by the method described above or by removing the extra files yourself if you know for sure what files were added by mods and aren't base game files.
Doing a reinstall is just generally the more user-friendly and worry-free approach.
This is because mod managers like MO2 have their own location where they install mod files to and manage/load them from.
okay thank you so much it helped 100% 😅
You can technically still install mods manually and still also use a mod manager on top of it, and in some cases for certain mods you might have to, but most of the time you want the mod manager to be the one adding the files so that you can more easily manage the setup using what are known as "profiles" in a mod manager.
It's a lot to take in at first, but once you get the hang of it it's pretty easy.
It's saved me a couple of times being able to just kill what I've got in the mod manager and start over rather than trying to unpick layered mods when something's gone wrong.
is mo2 the best or what others can i use
I use vortex
In my opinion, yes, but some do use Vortex, and then when Nexus finishes their third attempt at a mod manager since they're supposedly looking to replace Vortex with a newer one again, probably there'll be that option as well. If I remember right the main options are MO2, Vortex, and then I believe some people use Wyre Bash as a mod manager but I've never used that so I can't vouch for it.
MO2, with tweaking done in Xedit and WyreBash to bring it all together is what the servers I'm on recommend.
what's the chance that the update on maintenance tomorrow is just another extended maintenance announcement?
ive played through it a few times and i just wanna have fun this time around does anyone know of a mod to unlock all the map markers
Well, if they encounter unexpected issues again, then it likely would. Maintaining a service that handles distributing mods to millions of people simultaneously is no joke.
yeah thank you
where should i install mo2 from
I pulled it from the link on Nexus https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6194
anyone know of a mod that i can use to change my character after the start of the game?
i had one once but i cant find it anymore
Then your load order list was screwed up before the maintenance.
Their replacing vortex?!
After all the work they put in?!
God I hope not
Would be such a awful move for those who left MO2 for that thing
That's simply what I heard. I've never felt compelled enough to look into the matter myself and verify the information, so I'm simply taking someone else's word for it.
I see
Personally I don't see any appeal in the mod managers they've put out thus far; MO and MO2 already do what they do perfectly, and if I really want to use LOOT it's a standalone tool you can run on your MO load orders as well.
Yep
ah damn i didnt get a chance to buy anniversary edition... guess i dont get to use nolvus until winter sale 🥲
Huh? Are you the BGS IT dept night crew?
Great, because I have a broken LO and I can't even fix it because their server is down. I just need to fix the arrangement but I can't since it's behind the Mods screen.
Looked up how well nolvus runs on deck
Not great but better than I expected
About 15 to 30 fps
Tho this was on windows instead of steam os so I imagine 20 to 35 will be the likely frame rate
Tho I wouldn't run that on a sd card
Sd cards are better than HDD's but they are not an alternative to NVME SSD's
Don't get your hopes up. Skyrim was never made to run on Native Linux... Anything on SteamOS will use Proton, and adaption layer, so it will be the same or worse than Windows.
Then you'd be suprised how decent i got fo4 running on my deck
With 450 mods and an enb
Anyone running Nolvus?
I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm just saying, as an everyday Linux user, that running any game not native to Linux will cause Proton to kick in and running more CPU/RAM isn't always the best way to gain FPS 😉
But removing all the overhead and bloat in Windows probably makes up for the loss, so I can see that.
Hey I was wondering who do I speak to to get a mod made for Xbox for me? I’m looking for a specific mod and a can’t find the sorta mod I’m looking for
size is not tha issue. permissions are. Hothtrooper said he'd allow someone to port it if they were able to obtain permission from every MA whose assets were included, which is now impossible due to several of those MA's being long gone.
so yeah, Immersive Armors is never coming to Xbox. ever.
nvm dude already left smh
Yes they are.
I would love it if ago came to Xbox
Somebody knows about a No-Weapon combat Perks mod por PlayStation?
Fist of fury is avaliable on that console?
Pls
Why even bother? I doubt they would even fully understand why
Try saying bonemold bolt five times fast
I got it to three times, then started saying "Bomobo" instead, lol.
I did it. Do I win five Bonemold Bolts?
Does anyone know how to get xmpse maximum skeleton and belt fastened quivers to be compatible on Xbox, when I installed xmpse for my NPC overhaul it takes the quiver off of my belt.
There is a new version of BFQ uploaded that’s based on and includes XPMSSE
I can’t share a link right now obviously
Either old xp32 + bfq + bfq xp32 patch. or new xpmsse + new bfq
never mind, Ostronamus said xpmsse is included in the new bfq
Okay thank you, if xp32 wasn't required for my npc and animation overhauls I wouldn't even run it lol
But thanks again I'll be sure to straighten it out when maintenance has concluded
I also use the old version, because xpmsse was confilcting with something causing my block animation to not play while moving
I hear you
I remember reading that there is a fully patched XPMSSE but its included in some bundle that I forget the name of
Can nolvus be ran on the Xbox?
No
I wish
Me tooo
sadge
Rn I'd be happy to run any mods. I just got a series s and downloaded skyrim yesterday and mods are still in maintenance XD
Anyone tried Xelzaz? Thoughts? looking for a follower for a “semi-evil” morally grey playthrough, Ive used inigo but looking for someone else, Lucien didnt fit
don't worry in 40 mins they'll tell us next update is monday NOON EST 😉
Same 😂😂
can't speak on morality but what i've heard is: great follower, but VA dosn't sound argonian
yeah i have tried Xelzaz @sudden night he can be a little Evil, he is a Telvanni wizard after all, he is probably my favorite follower now.
@autumn talon @desert kelp Thanks, yeah the voice seemed off to me but I think ill get used to it. Its good that he can be morally grey though, probably will try him, cheers
with high enough speech you can even persuade him to stay with you as you do dark brotherhood questline, cause he has a morbid curiousity
What's the best resource(s) for discovering good xbox mods/LO's? I'm aware of the xbox skyrim mods subreddit, is there anything else?
Oh okay, im sold
three days of xbox mod page maintenance when will it be available again
I will crap in my pants
Good morning everyone
mornin'
Today is when the mods are back Today yes
not necessarily...
Damn so no one really knows
exactly
Anyway is skyrim the only game y'all play its all I have
Nope. I randomly decided I wanted to make a modded playthrough a couple days ago. And when I decided to try it, it was in maintenance.
lmao yesterday i wanted to play sum vanilla skyrim to try n finish off them achievements but i couldnt unload my mods 😭 ion even wanna play wit mods rn reh i hope that it comes back online soon
Hopefully they arent too late today with the announcements.
I tried vanilla last night just to play, nothing would load, it kept crashing here. So I gave up
Annoucement soon ?
doesn't matter much when they announce that we have to wait till monday, now does it ;d
Supposed to be 4 mins ago
Monday ?!
bruh this communication between bethesda and the community is so trash wtf
Fair, if thats the case Imma refund AE since I just got it.
was thinking the same
They haven't announced today's update yet
correction, they haven't announced 1 update yet. saying the team is still working on it isn't an update. it's the same status it was for the past 3 days
They put another update in yesterday at 430 saying they'd update today again at noon
In discord, not at bethesda
where news
where news
where updatee
No update yet, they were 30 minutes late telling us to check back today at noon yesterday
Anyone else have the jeopardy song in their head?
noon gmt or est?
Yes to the jeopardy theme song
They said est
it is noon rn no?
Yes, it's 11 minutes past noon
yea so where news
where news
They said noon so we should expect noon thirty, right?
I'll predict 4.5 to 5 hours, maybe midnight
i predict an update when TESVI comes out
Monday is more than likely the correct prediction
i hate slowmode all my homies hate slowmode
Watch they forget about this announcement and make one about TES6 instead
They need slowmode for when this chat explodes after they announce its gonna be days more waiting lol
ill tell em to ligma or whatever
Hmm
i got kicked from here for asking what it was once
Yo
I'd like to know what they did to break it like that
id hecking ask what it is again
Bethesda you have five minutes before I start using unrelenting force to get you to say something
ill cheesify them
Turns out rieklings are real and they've been tap dancing on the servers
I hope the mods wont be paid right away
where announcement
Sheogorath is taking revenge on one of the seniors devs for committing a truly heinous offense regarding cheese wheels, lactose intolerant is no excuse!
i heard the announcement was with joe catching ligma or sugma
I just hope that there are even more mods on consoles and that they have more space to download mods for Skyrim
"hope" good luck with that
Stalker should stay hidden in the shadows
stalker?? like from the stalker franchise?
From Warframe
That's right, we will have to dream😂
well it's still in maint mode, no update means they have no clue what to say
From what was said previously, expanding the mod space on consoles would essentially mean having to delete all the mods people have and reserve new space on their drives.
Unless they've fixed that, there's probably not going to be more space.
Yeeees Completely
The mods library is already messed up now so why not
As long as they're sorry and appreciate our patience, I don't really ever need to play again.
i hope the devs working on the maintenance can catch deez hands
Used to be RM23 years ago, still a good game
Because it would mean some people permanently lose mods that are no longer on the Bethesda site, and it would be really bad to delete everyone on console's mod space with no notice.
Nowadays it is much better, it even has crossplay
They should be able to fix that somehow and give more space, that would be wonderful
Apparently it's technical and related to how space is reserved on the consoles. 🤷
then why is it screwing pc up?
Where is the updatee
They’re not updating us because they’re afraid to say that they broke the site and rm -r ‘ed absolutely everything, including all the uploaded mods
Is anyone else patiently waiting for the mods to come back online
Nope, no one here!
Then why not revert the changes and test it more on a private server before doing it in production
Because they're idiots
Should have backups in those cases
damn it i wanna play my modpack already
My mental soundtrack has switched from the jeopardy theme song to "I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay..."
Different thing.
This was specifically about a wish to expand the mod space, not about what this downtime is about.
I'm doubting this is about expanding mod space, because that wouldn't be maintenance on their servers in this way.
where news
It's 31 minutes past this better be long and have an ETA and not be the same thing as the last 3 times
BETHESDA-7
hmm, would sure be nice to hear from literally any of the staff online right now.
AE is being review bombed to hell right now
That will be a short term issue but a forever solution, everyone will have to move on.
I am starting to see the reason why people make fun of Bethesda games, the only one I have ever played relatively close to launch and in this case on launch day was doom eternal and it was not bugy
Will we wait another day for the mods? Probably.
... Skyrim is 12 years old
We'll get mods back for Christmas
Just spoke to Todd. He said to buy Skyrim again and then he will end maintenance.
And it's still as good as the first day, it never fails, it always surprises and it never leaves you.
Except for the CC content
Yeah, but it's not Skyrim's problem, it's its creators' so...
They maintain it so it is bethesdas problem...
Why we can't get all the cc files in a folder from a website?
Because its "piracy" even though we paid for that content. -_-
Did they forget?
Ah yes sure 😂
Probably at this point
Gee this is a great day for my steam deck to be out for delivery

I feel that so bad tho
Can yall please just tell us if we are gonna be waiting longer or not. Pretty sure thats all we wanna know. Like stop saying you will update us later just say its broken and youll tell us when its fixed.
Wait that’s so weird I’m having the same issue??? /j
Please bethesda allow the modders do the maitenance
yeah...?
The servers are down. Thats everyones issue lol @bold seal @ember lichen
Thank God PC exist and I'm not in need of cc
Yes I know I am being silly
bruh.... really?
where update
I'm on PC but i need the CC content because of my collection from nexus
U didn't Download it before the update ?
I got AE specifically to play cc content, like I have mods yeah but I had those with SE
No i Just buy the AE yesterday
If u installed ae content before the downtime it's all there
I bought it right before downtime
Bad boy
i bought ages ago lmao
I'm on xbox
I got it through the steam sale so
45 minutes???
lmao 45 min
The wait is almost over!!!!
At least we're not blindly waiting anymore
more like ten todd hours
were just waiting to be told its broken and we need to wait more
Remember, they said "update"
"Update" it's very funny that you say that, I think it won't work today either
A update on what you ask? Maybe the game, maybe not
Status update on the server maintenance
I meant They, no you, sorry
I think it's safe to assume mods won't be back till Monday at least, hopefully wrong and it's sooner
People do like their Starbuck off work hours
Is there any reason the CC content couldn't just be bundled with the main game download instead of having to download the game THEN CC content through the launch window?
I know why
Look in questions about Skyrim. Already discussed, the "optional update"
Bethesda is lazy and dont want to do this 🙂
It's in the tab below this1
I miss the days of hearing about Morrowind & Oblivion teams who worked extra hrs to make the game as likeable as possible. No matter the cost to their free time
I think they actually did 😂
Idk, nothing seemed to really answer my question? I assume it's just Bethesda doesn't want to confuse people on where CC content is, although considering when you get SE you get all paid mods included going the extra step to have to download them from the skyrim CC site rather than just having them wrapped up in the skyrim SE download from steam seems like a weird choice
What should you do to bring PC mods to consoles?
Make every texture 512 or less
Good🤣
Deep breath I'ma go watch somethin✌️
What's worse is if you're wanting the CC to mod we might have to wait for SKSE to update too 💀
Probably
There's been no word about anything happening client-side to need an update; it's all backend / server-side so far.
So I've heard and that's what I'm hoping is the case. We won't know until it's finished ig
They said another 45 minutes and we'll get another update on what's taking so long 🤦
1:33 will be 45 minutes
I'm just hoping it's done when I get out of school
It's because it's simpler to have the base game separate to the optional downloads than to have the base game and base game+updates as a package. Especially as not everyone will have every piece of CC content, so they'd have to maintain the separate downloads anyway.
Right now it is. I was so , so excited for starfield but was massively disappointed. I can't play it anymore. Skyrim is the only thing that comes close to scratching the itch 😦
Question .. I know Skyrim gets wonky after 60 frames. If I were to use a mod that enables frame gen, and cap my native frames at 60 while letting frame gen give me more frames, would that still make the game wonky?
I think it might
Guess I’ll just have to try it out
It'll probably mess with the physics. Frame rate is tied to physics in skyrim iirc
Might see items moving by themselves or something similar.
late late says the white rabbit
Has the 45 minutes passed?
Yes
Yes, 10 minutes ago
Technically 8 minutes ago
And all so that they say: Another day, sorry😂
I hope not
ah yes, HOPE
Let's keep faith and hope 😂
We have hope and that's about it
none of those have anything to do with IT stuff
Expect to not have mods back till next week, if it's sooner then great
Same
I've once flooded whiterun with sweet rolls when my xbox 360 used to work.
When I played on ps3 save bloat made my fps drop to like 20 outside lmao
Look folks we just have to be patient, it isn't their fault Sheogorath transformed all the servers into cheese wheels
My dude got beheaded twice💀
i wanna change my load order
All I wanna do is make sure I can adopt my 6 orphans...
I would like to find another unique weapons mod that has cool weapons
I wanna put on my mod where I can be a bard:<
45 more minutes they say
🧢
Are there any combat mods that will work for Xbox that make parrying and sword combat better?
Something so it's less of just flailing my sword in an enemies general direction and so that I'm not getting punched by a frost troll 30 feet away from me.
I have the XP32 skeleton mod, dualsun animations and a dodge roll mod if that's of any importance (besides the other visual stuff)
45 more minutes will be all we hear over and over
I tried to use a dark souls mod where I had the movement from it but my game crashed right away
It's been a hour since they said 45 minutes.
Someone just posted a few minutes ago, one of the mod messengers, an apology for the update delay
There was a brief message saying they're aware they're overdue, but they (i.e. the communicators) are still waiting on information.
In modders general chat
Do you remember what the mod was called? Might be worth checking out at least... What I hate most is not being able to block or parry if I have a spell in my left hand... Plus it would be nice if there were sword binds if you both swing and hit at the same moment... But that's probs a dream lol
Nope, I had to uninstall bc it was crashing my game at the main menu
I want like roll movement, etc that wont crash my game ngl.
Anyone know how to create a mod on xbox? Because I kinda wanna make a mod but I'm on xbox
Closest thing I can think for that is "The Ultimate Dodge Mod Reborn".
Oh ok, does it make the game laggy tho?
I got steam on my 9 year old office laptop that runs gmod, brickrigs and scrap mechanic.
In modding general Jescapade said she's waiting on the team to update her and their aware they are over the time they said for an update 😑
Not from when I'm playing. Which is a good sign, since I play on THE OG Xbox One.
I think jesscapade got fired for giving us hope
Same I use the OG xbox one too, I'll look into the mod to see how it works once I'm able to, thanks for letting me know.
I'm done I'm praying to talos they get dunmer syphilis
The what
No problem, and I hope it works for you!
Does anybody know when Creation Club will get back to work?
@peak snow not a clue bud
No news?
Y'all know the theory that the horse thief in the beginning of skyrim when he was asking every god for help that's why auldoin came to attack helgen? I probs spelt the dragons name wrong
I just wanna adopt my orphaned kahjit daughter and her 5 siblings... is that so much to ask?
Yes.
I Bought anniversary edition and can't use 
A flying mod for xbox would be cool
I got anniversary edition last year for Christmas on sale😎
Oof. Ok. I'll only adopt 4 more siblings then... as soon as I can be sure I turned those mods on...
@fading berry same lol
Anyone know this theory about the beginning of the game?
@peak snow dude we been waiting here for over 24hrs get in line ganest-i mean bethesda has hired a bunch of monkeys to beat on keyboards & hope for the best
Youll want to find a way to bind block to another key other than the left-hand-attack key (you may need a mod for this), and then install a mod that takes advantage of that - like a sekiro perfectly timed block or something
Dammit woman!!!! Where's our mods, ik u see this
They've been lost in Skuldafn, there was an incident with a very irritated dragon
I thought they got lost in the soul cairn or possibly blackreach
Oooh even more irritating background noises there, it would explain a lot
That is so true
Yeah honestly if it turns out they were dealing with the soul cairn background noises the whole time I won't even be mad
I wouldn't be mad either
“Apologies for our delay, we should have final details on our status update on maintenance here in 45 minutes or so. Hang tight!” Guess they really put emphasis on the “or so” part 💀
This is bs
It is not bs.
Right, the "or so" is total bs
Its annoying bc I'm bored and I wanna play skyrim
I mean there are no bulls in Skyrim, only cows
We're the bull my friend
Isn't there a mod to get bulls in game
There's a mod for everything
W'th the f''k is (or so) part. Shouldn't it be more specific 😡
Is there a mod to get mods back?
....I wonder if the Thomas the Tank Engine mod was ported to SE?
What's the news Milk?
Maybe this is the delay cause
I feel bad for the community ppl. They get the heat for something that they have no control over.
Is there a mod that allows me to to see my mods in the load order I set them in game without the sever
Nothing new, still waiting unfortunately
Huh
Hell yeah mods are back on line
Wait what
Pain
Listen it's not the devs' fault that Sheogorath owns controlling interest in Bethesda Studios
Huh
Well, everyone enjoy if this is true
Its not
Its false
Fool you just joking
Lol
Somebody hit the servers with the wabbajack
I'm reloading my game
Is there a mod that lets me see when maintenance is scheduled to be over ?
I wish...
There's a website
Waiting for the "or so" from "45 minutes or so"
Lmfao I I
Ok now im starting to get impatient
Yeah its still down
I just learned about mods yesterday
I need mods raaaah
Love how it psuedo loaded.
We'll all be ok Skay. No need to go vampire lord
I was kidding people
45 minutes in dragon years turns out to be about 3 months in normal time
Actually 45 minutes in dragon years is infinity since they are immortal
Aleast you don't get this
The update will be available next Morndas, 18th of last seed
Not with the dragon rend shout they aren't!
I love Hearing the screams of my victims.
That's weird. The whole bethesda team use dragon chartography?
We just need to use Dragonrend on the employees then
Last seed is August so that's awhile
Dragon rend is only temporary and unless you've got enough burst damage I doubt you'll get far.
Bad news everyone
Say what!?
That explains everything now
They got a Frostbite Spider in there
Someone get that frostbite spider outta there!
Getting frozen with frost bite venom
HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE!?
Take your shoe off and slam that thing you chickens!
Then put on gloves, a mask, and a very large jacket.
An employee already got webbed up in there like Arvel the Swift that's why they aren't taking the risk
Now there's a mod idea, be able to smash a frost bite spider with your shoe
Even the spider getting tired of Bethesdas antics
& winterize that thing
@leaden wren
Be patient everyone
#modding-news message. Another 45 minutes?
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Ĥi think that they want us off skyrim n playing starfield
That actually makes sense 🤔
one of us going to have too do it
Not me
I'm just playing Fallout 4 instead of Skyrim because Starfield is kinda lame rn
Bruh
Can't don't have and don't have any money
Yeah they want our lazy ads off and play Stanfield they need it lolol
I want to get a modded breeze house
That's like, the smallest house
Dame spell check
A mod that make it bigger
Whenever I play Starfield I get the urge to play Fallout 4 instead because Starfield's gameplay is just Fallout 4's without the good of Fallout 4 so they are failing
I’m gonna play Fallout 1
They just edited the update in modding news
Alright
Let's hope this down time is done soon
9 hrs later
One can only hope
It says in modding news we should be getting the final details sometime soon
bro
Question is when is soon
Soon is later. Now is soon.
Which basically means we have no clue when maintenance will be done
Our soon or there soon as like 2 days later
thats the 4th delay or something?
What is soon? Who is soon?
Why is soon?
That must be one big spider…
TesVI soon
Welp.
3 atleast that I know of days down
Listen if you were stuck in Sheogorath's realm in oblivion you wouldn't know what time it is either
Refund time
The real reason the servers are down is Sheogorath dropped a meteor on them like he did on Morrowind with Baar Dau
I'm convinced Bethesda has one dev and it's sheogorath
I can't refund if its free
Part of me hopes the timeline is a few hours, but I know it's gonna be a few days
Maybe they mean the time waited
@desert kelp I'm convinced the dev team is actually the Institute. HIdden from the public eye, until they decide it's time to show up
I'd believe it
Can we hope some added content to the regular mods section and maybe a fixed search engine ? I'm tired of finding Serana waifus when i enter "weapons".
It's the Psijic Order, it explains the time issues
Idk fallout 🤷
then know it 
mods are added every day
@desert kelp Fair enough
Personally I'm expecting nothing more than being able to access mods again lol
New marketplace
Or we probably have access to above 13+ content
Imagine all the mods accidentally got deleted
Let's hope that doesn't happen
That would be quite the oopsies
I just deleted 300 gigs worth of mods for a clean reinstall to try nolvus 🤡
Did we just get updated on the status of the update almost being announced
Ouch
Inb4 they accidentally deleted everything but don't want to say so are recreating everything
beth dont create mods if there deleted modders would need to reupload them
So dose anyone know about any assassin mods for Xbox
I feel like the maintenance must be paid marketplace seeing Fallout 4 isn't getting the same treatment despite following the same format
the brotherhood of old adds more quests
Maybe fo4 will get that treatment soon, maybe just not the same time as Skyrim.
Fallout 4 is leaked get new content
fallout is mostly ports from other games
Why does everyone keep saying it's a paid mods market place being added, that doesn't sound like maintenance to me lol
Maybe but the ingame search engine don't show them all apparently. There is the same limited crap everyday i check. Would like something like the steam workshop without needing a tier site or program.
because it is
there was a reference to a marketplace in a earlier steam update
Why wouldn't they say that instead of calling it maintenance
try (ugh mod manager)
Are they having trouble updating us because they've been burning through firing all the communication departments?
Some of us are on xbox
It’s not 100% confirmed yet. So I’m not totally sure if it’s gonna happen or not.
its for xbox
What are you talking about?? They doubled their communication staff. They have 2 people working now.
Ok where is it
Even if it is gonna be a thing it's highly unlikely it's what's happening now
Oh great! 🎊🎉
In the void
in the mod store
When bethesda skyrim mods coming back?
In the next era
the hamster isnt going back in untill they remove the spider
When Starfield becomes more popular than Skyrim
No troll plz
I seen in the Elder scrolls support maybe tonight at 6:48pm
Nobody knows yet, there'll be an update on it eventually in #modding-news
we dont know the last update was 2hours ago
K tnx guys
They haven't said anything about mods?
Actually on SE using the mods browser, i'm seriously thinking about returning on regular Skyrim version with skse and the steam workshop.
Let's just assume that the 12 pm est update was blank
https://status.bethesda.net/en
If ppl want to keep an eye without checking the discord constantly
Anyone here asking like me head to modding news to keep track of bethesda skyrim maintance
@tight hull there was no update dude
it is in modding news
Oh OK thanks when will you be making new mods
i making a few armors currently
I fir one think that there's way to many armor mods lol and skins too more landscapes be good
Wouldn’t call that an update. Just an update to and update. If only I downloaded the Paarthunax dillema.
you could try see tru windows,wintertime i have a few in my collection
Cool
hey everyone! any news on the maintenance?
***Updated at 2:32pm EST:
Apologies for our delay, we should have final details on our status update on maintenance. We will update this channel as soon as our updated timeline is available from the team.
Don't worry the next update is at
zzz
@delicate musk why the hell not, i'm the dumb one now - is the update something we might expect today, or not? i have a limited window in which i can get a refund for AE and i want to know sooner than later. apologies for the inconvenience
I think the devs themselves don’t know when it’ll be done 💀
tbh that's an internal problem with bethesda and shouldn't trickle down to people who've paid for their product
This is probably a software test for new employees
i just don't get how obtuse they have to be about this
I am a developer. I’ve learned to add 3 days to however long I think something is going to take me to fix, no matter how trivial.
Under promise over deliver
devs are all the same :'D
Half of my team is out for the holidays, the other called out sick or had off sites. We had unexpected production issues come up and a major compliance issue all while me filling in as lead while our normal lead was off the majority of admin/procedural knowledge has been taking a deserved vacation. Already stretched thin we do our best and sometimes certain stuff just gets pushed back.
@teal moat this user is bothering me, please prevent them from doing so
equitable treatment is very important!
Could be they are struggling with how to phrase their update regarding the purpose for the maintenance. I don’t really desire to pump the doom and gloom rumors, but my CFB team is just a absolutely hemorrhaging players to the transfer portal right now, so I’m in that head space. If these paywall associated rumors are true (based off some file leak? - also rumors of a mass reduction of community mods available to console players? - not sure what’s driving that rumor); but if true then they’ll have effectively killed Skyrim on consoles. Anyway, hope it’s just a rumor. It’s hard watching things that bring you joy die.
I would hope that their communications team would have worked out messaging before the update.
What else is needed besides “server maintenance?”
Mods reduction? Like reducing the amount of mods for console users? Now why would they do that?
I hope they end crashing for Xbox it's crashes every. Time
I would have just copied the message link here but it’s a mess over in the Skyrim chat right now, so I’ll just paste exactly what I said over there
I had just wanted to start trying out either Keizaal or Legends of the frost on my steam deck recently does Any one have recommendations on either of these mod packs?
Yea I tried that nothing
Follow the logical load order on Xbox and you most likely won't have crashes, maybe one or two, but man you'd probably get that many on vanilla anyways lol
also rumors
Therein lies the problem. Stop listening to rumors.
Dang Skyler ur a savage g
It’s true though.
Rumors aren’t true unless we actually find out about them. These things, even the marketplace, we don’t know what’s gonna happen after the maintenance. We really need to be more patient.
Yeah that too. A lot of negativity in this channel. Just people being so impatient and talking negative about Bethesda. I’m sure there’s worse companies than Bethesda.
New to Discord so not sure how to quote yet, Skye, but people were talking about the reduction rumors on this threads yesterday.
Also the community managers aren't responsible for the server maintenance and have no control over how long it takes
Well I mean it's not like they didn't give people advanced notice that maintenance would be taking place. It's a couple of days. Some people need to touch grass and take a chill-pill.
Idk if I heard any of that. Again rumors, they’re not 100% confirmed yet.
touch what?
😂
Something like that lacks credibility on even a basic level similar to when people try to say that modding will die or get shut down etc. No company who has their name become synonymous with modding is just going to suddenly flee from it or hinder it or kill it. 
Yeah, I’m just in a dark headspace, just in an ‘assuming the worst’ outlook right now. Time to take a break, me thinks.
I stepped away for an hour and now the chat is full of conspiracy theories.
Very much so. Throw on some tunes, get something good to eat/drink, and chillax.
And wait for further updates on this.
People have been trolling and suggesting that they're completely getting rid of modding on consoles - just to anger people and stoke backlash.
Pretty much.
And of course the "hard reset your entire console and you'll be able to download mods again" crowd.
People just wanna stir the pot. I ignore them. It's nonsense.
All we ask for is some creative use of cat gifs to entertain us while we wait, c'mon Bethesda, where are the kitties
🐱 🙀 ??? Like these ones?
Or do you mean an Alfiq creation pack? 😄
?cat
You found two actually
yeah i mean the notice on the steam page that i'm buying acces to something that is not available at the moment and no mention of when it might be available again is realy great , oh wait there isn't anything like that
Is it still under maintenance?
Yes. We're waiting for more info. It'll come when it comes.
Dread yep
I wanna cry, this makes it to much difficult for me to be a gard in skyrim bc I need to active the mod
Any news why theres a maintenence all of a sudden? or why its over such a long period?
The maintenance had been planned days in advance as for the time none of us know
The only thing thats been clear this entire time is when it would start.
i hope this doesnt lead to an update which breaks mods ive got downloaded
Dont get your hopes up.
"Apologies for our delay, we should have final details on our status update on maintenance. We will update this channel as soon as our updated timeline is available from the team"... So basically, we can't provide an estimate for when we'll be able to provide an estimate.
Basically
Why this update i's during so long, and why they dont say the first day " Gonna be 2 or 3 day maintenance "
Is it like... a year? A month? A week? Three days?... I mean, you could give *some * idea...
I only wish i paid attention to the notice saying this would happen so i could prepare. I can really only blame myself
There was a notice?
It's obvious they screwed up during maintenance but are trying to save face and don't want to admit they messed up. Hardware or backups didn't work correctly.
I mean this is good news right?
Maybe I'll just mod fallout instead or smth
Will Bethesda put a lock on Nexus mods, with their update?
I suspect someone cooked a server rack when installing it.
Unlikely. They've never had a problem with external mod sites before, and it'd hurt them to lose Nexus, especially for all the other games that have mods carried there.
I hope you are right... if they will, its gonna be the end of automated modlist installers like Wabbajack and collections.
While we’re waiting for the update though, does anyone know any good xbox mods that improve dragon riding?
I guest were going have wait another day
Does anyone know if they work during the weekends are should we not expect an update until Monday?
Or a week, or a month
Mod fallout into Skyrim, then mod Skyrim
Normally in a company if server maintenance goes over like this has, the techs get to work the weekend, whether or not that was planned.
honestly, im starting to think it is a hardware issue
I suspect someone's set fire to some servers, or they didn't work when they unboxed them, and that's added 24-48 hours for delivery of new servers.
either that or they found a rlly bad issue during the maintenance routine
Still no update god damn 🫠🫠🫠🫠
??
They should at least say something before the Friday EST business day closes
hmmmm, yea idk a mod like that for xbox
Why all the good mods gotta be PC only man 😔
There are many good mods on consoles. It's just that there are certain limitations that can only be overcome with access to files that is only possible on PC.
also because you can have 900 gb of mods on pc if you so desire lmao
and also the 5 GB limit, meaning my favorite mod, beyond skyrim, cant rlly be played on console 😭
Sometimes that's just how it is.
If you’re talking about beyond skyrim cyrodiil, then I can run it just fine with normal mods too
At the very least with xbox you still get considerably more options than playstation, so there's that. Silver linings and all.
Eh, still would be nice if there were more options for xbox. Dragon riding doesn’t really seem that hard to implement for it
yea, the only problem i see its the size
It depends entirely on what access there is for mod authors to even hook into with mods. While some things can be worked around with enough effort and luck, some things are unfortunately completely out of reach. It may seem easy from an outside perspective, but once you start digging about in the creation kit and so on you can find yourself stuck behind a wall.
i think we’re gonna have to wait till monday sadly, that’s what most people are saying anyway
A lot of the ones that people want to move to XBox and can't have needed SKSE to mess around with file access that the consoles don't allow.
Or need very careful LO tweaking and patches that you can't easily do on console.
i guess this is why most games on console dont have mods or have a rlly limited access to them, and once they get ported to PC, theres suddenly a plethora of mods.
It can be one of the reasons, yes.
PCs are a lot more free with memory access and mapping to allow for doing fun things with mods.
Less of a restricted walled zone.
Man they better be pumping out the most revolutionary update to the modding system cause this is taking way too long
imagine it went up the next hour
It's probably back end stuff.
I'll let everyone know if TTW downloads before maintenance gets done. Might actually be close.
that will be tuff if it does happen
trying to fix something
Is mods up now or not yet?
ofc not
https://status.bethesda.net/en
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When I get my Xbox one and when the maintenance is done what are good mods for Xbox?
I've only played skyrim modded on the ps4
Inigo. Blue Cat is Best Cat.
And lucien
If you have a Bethesda account for ps4 then just shelf the xbox versions in the library
Lucien is good too! And works well with Inigo. 😄
Most r shared
Lucien and inigo my sons
Still nothing the heck
Anything on modding is there any news when are they turning them on
No
Patience
is this the chat to ask about load order assistance?
i don’t need help rn cuz it’s down but i will eventually
I was going to say just use loot lol but you're not on pc
loot? how does circumvent the need for you to have all the ae/creation content installed?
Anything
i try to follow guides for the xbox but i end up more confused 💀
Patience does not exist when you have been stuck in your house with COVID for a week shy of an entire month
its funny no one can add reactions to the most recent announcement
Right
I have imperious races of skyrim from a modpack. (I don;t remeber whicch one.) I never got the argonian ability after looting chests under water. Do lockboxes not count? I also never got the high elf ability after grabbing 40 butterflies. Do I need to do somehting to activate the abilities or is an issue witht he mod pack?
The argonian is us and the sword is the wait for mods to come back online
there are a few dragon riding mods for skyrim on xbox
This is one hell of a way for me to get back into the game after so long lol
Same
So, do we think the problem they're having is with 1 platform and they're not bringing any platforms back until they bring them all back?
Technically yes all platforms are down
Hi everyone is there any new update?
We'll be told when they have an update.
Ok
Ttw just finished lol
Huh
Was wondering what'd take longer
It will come everyone hang in there
hurry up buddy
Look Nazeem got loose in the server room and you know how he gets when he hasn't been allowed into the cloud district for a few days
it's bad when they deleted their previous post saying hey everybody will get you an update when the timetable in 45 minutes. 7 hours ago.
Oh no its that buttface loveking on here lol
I thought there was a frostbite spooder in the server room?
Nazeem is actually the name of the devs' pet Frost bite spider- can you blame them?
Boring
Yes. What did that poor spider do to deserve such a horrendous namesake?
Why the hell is Skyrim chat talking about JFK
This whole thing of waiting is ridiculous
Lying is my favorite pastime
I know this was going to happen so I did a load order before this down time my game is playing good
But I forgot 2 mods and now I have to wait to get them
I had literally just cleared my load over due to conflict and ghost space. Just to not be able to install any mods
Same. I wanted to adopt my 6 orphans... but I forgot to add that mod.
I was about to activate my most important mods when it cut out. https://media.tenor.co/videos/804535ed322aaaa3e77ed03046438c55/mp4
I felt that
Loveking isnt wrong plus we could use somthing that makes mods that need skse to work without it
I'm on xbox
what mod are you searching for that needs skse
Sanguinaire but it needs that cuz bugs
it is closed on nexus
What he said
I was so hurt too when mods went down I was getting ready to play a red guard sword singer. With the actual sword singer mod
45 minutes yeah that was too good to be true
i dont know if it is closed perm,it is closed from a public release and is in alpha
Honestly I think I’m an addict with Skyrim modding, I’m having withdrawals because I can’t mod
Im so aggravated
Is it still down?
This is my first time useing GITS: Genuinly Intelligent Soul Trap. I have no empty soul gems in my inventory, and yet when I kill something, the following messages pop in the upper left corner of my screen "A soul was displaced. A soul was shrunk. A soul was discarded.". Is this supposed to be happening? Also, it seems that GITS hasn't been updated to include Flawed Varla Stones, which are part of the Rare Curios CC pack.
I don't know what to do..
Would i have any problems with queen of the damned + tragedians fabolous followers?
Can't create a patch, i am on xbox
i'm not gonna lie this is getting pretty crazy waiting this long
Wonder if these muvs done went home for the weekend, and I'm still hanging here waiting for an update like a sad clown.
They already said people are still working on it despite being a weekend.
It could be 50/50, they could’ve left or they could’ve stayed
has anyone here tried Paulys skyrim aio?
negative
@Skyler Where do you see these messages? I feel like I'm only getting the tail end of all this communication.
A lot of them are from conversations in the #skyrim-chat channel, as that channel is currently flooded with people. I'm personally glad this particular channel is much quieter.
The community manager/s are active in that channel? I'll check that out. Thanks.
When is Skyrim mods up
When it's up.
They haven't fixed it yet, don't have an estimate, or an estimate for when they'll have an estimate.
Correct. It's a complex problem for which giving accurate ETAs is essentially impossible.
Well I'm just glad to be here, as a loyal and grateful customer of the greatest company in the world.
Pauly does some interesting stuff. Including lighting bundles
i’m trying to plan what my load order i’ll be for when this maintenance crap is over, i might use his stuff but not sure what order to put it in
well. there is a mod to show which mods should be where . there r also some pretty good templates for load order available for google sheet download
they make mods like that for xbox?
Unfortunately no
We have a very convoluted mod layout we have to follow or it’ll just break. I wish we did tho, it’ll be so much easier than spending hours on modding
What’s the problem sorry
are the servers back uo?
No
Dude I've been waiting 3 days I'm done with picking up everything in the blue palace
This is either an ai or fake account from the people who screwed my weekend.
Just white knighting a little to ease the boredom
I'm about to boot up the PS3 I'm not even kidding I'd rather play the PS3 version than be in the blue palace
damn it all tp hell ;-;
The life of developers is a tough one indeed 😅
And the lack of communication is annoying look at how communicative payday3's twitter was when it launched
Even tougher for community managers
For sure. I think that there is a big lack of empathy from a lot of people here becuase they haven't been in a situation like this. It's not a great time for all parties involved
I'm both a career software developer, and a long time gamer, so I see it from both sides.
Look I understand that this stuff is hard I would just like to know when I can play Skyrim again I don't need it fixed now I'd just like to know when it's fixed
Hi every one! I NEED CC content to play with Constellation (nexusmod collection) and there's a week old skyrim game folder in my bin because I uninstalled it one week ago, This folder is the part I unistalled manually, not what was deleted by steam when clicked "uninstall" but I still have hopes to find CC content in it, anyway, I'd just like to know what does CC content look like in the game files so I can manually recover them and port them in a new skyrim install.
Same as myself - stuff happens unfortunately!
I just want to understand what this complex problem is for which an eta is impossible. Sounds like some information has been released that I missed. Or is that conjecture.
Bro, I’m stuck in bloodskal barrow because I got the bloodskal blade bug and can’t move forward with out a mod. Can’t go back because of the way the chamber is set up.
All that can be inferred with the information we have been told thus-far is it involves the server maintenance they were doing, which could mean any number of things from the server hardware, software, databases, and so on, encountering some sort of problem(s) along the way that require further effort to correct, which throws off the time estimate. Realistically, we likely won't know when it will be done until it's actually done. Which is why it's important for people to simply accept it for what it is and instead try to keep occupied with other things rather than stress out over the extended downtime.
I mean it took me like 5 reloads to open a case with orc weapons in the blue palace then I get what's his names mittens in one lock pick
Agreed, there has been a lack of communication it seems, which would be good or bad.
| Either they are knee deep in finding and fixing the problem or
| They are lost in the thick of it and have absolutely no idea when it will be fixed
At the end of the day if these folk's biggest problem in life is a video game going through extended maintenace I'd argue that life is pretty good haha
does anyone know WHY the serves are down tho??
I think it's healthy and fun to blow off a little steam with your fellow gamers. Nobody's getting hysterical, just commiserating.
Correct.
Ok thank you, that makes sense. But we don’t know there is a complex problem then for which an eta is impossible. It’s just conjecture based on the very little information we have.
have you seen #modding-general ? 🤣
the mods better be less glitchy or something like wtf i really need a certain mod to keep playing and i just wanna know when it's done
Go play yakuza guys during this time or get dragons dogma. Very good games. Especially if you like depth.
crazy?
@outer python duh that's why you should have quest debugger duh!
Likely that information is known only to those who are employed by Bethesda and who are directly involved in the process. There's no reason for them to divulge specific details regarding it nor keep random internet strangers in the loop regarding the minutiae, so they don't.
hope it's fixed soon tho
Honestly, I think a “here’s what happened (ie: server issues or whatever). There’s no way to eta this, sorry for the inconvenience” would go a long way
I think that's basically what happened though
Random internet strangers don’t deserve that information.
no they keep saying there will be updates but they don't
Paying customers do tho my g
When one of my reports tells me "no idea how long" I usually start bracketing. A year? A month? A week?... 100% of the time it turns out they have some idea of how long.
I agree. It was a joke based on an above comment.
Sooo should I give up on it being live today...?
Oh gotcha my bad lol
i hope it's fixed over the weekend cuz i really wanna play w some new mods
it's 1:17am where i am at the moment, I'm giving up in about 10 mins lol
Nah it’s cool. I could’ve made it more obvious.
You get that we’re not random internet strangers, we’re customers who have paid for a product, yes? I’m not cool with some of the hate they’re getting here and elsewhere but let’s not go crazy on the other end
Well, the problem is, if they divulge the specific information, what would any of us even do with it? It's not like we can help. We can't just grab a screwdriver, drive to Maryland somewhere, and start going to work. We're just gamers scattered all over, and realistically we should just, well, play a game, and wait for them to finish their work. It's just not something we need to concern ourselves with.
I could actually do that. I live not far from Bethesda.
but it gives an idea on what's happening and if they're adding something or just fixing something
Same time zone 🙌🏼
Well, I mean, they do have a website and a hiring section where you can submit an application... 
Same
I actually interviewed with them like 20+ years ago, for a UI design job. But they wanted more C++ experience than I had at the time.
Probably yeah. Good to have low expectations of Bethesda in general. Get disappointed less that way and more happy when they do good.
My guy have you ever delivered a product you’re responsible for maintaining to a customer? You give them updates not because they’re gonna drive over and help, but because you have a responsibility to them. Yeah, folk should absolutely go do something else. And Bethesda should tell us what’s going on. Don’t need details. Just a general
They've already done that.
Ok, what’s the general issue then? You tell me
Their loss fam
From my experience, it's usually us Software Devs that get kept on over the weekend / night to work on maintenance and we will page someone from our Product / Customer Success team when we have an update to give. There is no point in a community manager giving false or outright wrong info to us either, let them sleep until something happens.
Go read the announcements in #modding-news.
I’m really upset that Bethesda still working on Skyrim this is BS
I don’t understand… I’m not asking for someone to give false information. I’m an engineer in a sustainment department and it’s our responsibility to communicate with the customer, but different field I get it. None of this changes what I said tho
Seriously guys go play yakuza or dragons dogma. The one area in yakuza has more depth than the entirety of Skyrim. And dragon’s Dogma combat is chef’s kisses and I think on sale at the minute.
Anyways, I think it's time to fire up the CK and work on some more code. Hoping I can finish this update before the year ends. 
I did. I don’t see where they say what the general issue holding things up is, even if it’s as simple as their timeline didn’t account for something. Do you see the general issue described there?
I respect anyone who can work with papyrus (or code in general but especially the former)
Understandably they have been extremely vague in their updates. It's like someone in Standup trying to fluff about what they are working on 🤣
I would understand if the case was they straight up don’t know what has gone wrong lol
I think Bethesda isn’t going to update Skyrim and they won’t keep working on it they just say that it is still working process when all there doing is siting on there (&$! And doing nothing except making there new game
It...has a bit of a learning curve, and there are some things about it I really don't like, but once you get the hang of it it's ok. I just...really wish I knew what the creator was thinking when they decided to make all strings case-insensitive. 
Probably accidentally mashed the keyboard. And now this is where we are.

This is something only other SWE's would understand though. The wider community would be in even more of a panic if they admitted this lol
I heard they're launching a new paid mod that allows you to download mods even when the mod server is down.
That’s bs
Gonna cry
For sure. If you don’t know what has gone wrong, I get being vague. We usually just give the “currently troubleshooting” line and that’s sufficient for us
Predictably, it opened a rift in the spacetime continuum, which can only be closed by rerouting server power from the auxillary couplings to the main sensor dish to create an inverse tachyon beam.
Couldn't agree more. I'm not sure what field you work in but I bet the customer base isn't as big and as.. vocal? as this one lol
They never did say when they will continue the update
Well my mods affect lighting and NPC spawning in towns so I can't even leave the blue palace because you cant load mods
True. The latest announcement says that they should have an update but not a time when this will happen
***Updated at 2:32pm EST:
Apologies for our delay, we should have final details on our status update on maintenance. We will update this channel as soon as our updated timeline is available from the team.
Definitely not as big, but just as vocal. Brutal in fact, big bucks involved lol
Well, I suppose it's too late for this, but since you're on xbox if you have a mod like Debug Menu or Cheat Room you could teleport out of the room to somewhere else, assuming there is a place you can head to that won't also crash, that is (assuming crashes are the problem you're encountering; I don't actually know).
I have cheat room for another save
Well, 1.40am here - thanks for the discussion everyone. Hopefully this is fixed when I wake up 🤡
Can you give us an estimate on when you'll wake up?
Yes, but if this customer base pays for a service that is listed for sale even when knowingly unavailable for an indeterminate amount of time (as no one seems to have a timeframe for the restoration of services), was performed for unclear reasons, and which is down for unclear reasons... I feel that there is a certain right to be mad.
Aniversary edition. By selling it as paid content, it does become a service.
Sometime in the near future. Will advise eventually
just dont be 7 hours late and its better than bethesda
My man… I get defending the guys working hard behind the scenes but you’ve completely lost the plot. When you buy a game, and the purchase includes creation club content (that you currently can’t get) that is definitely a service that you’re not getting. I have no idea how you could say otherwise

I get you. The comms could be better for sure but idk man being mad…. Maybe not the move. If they poofed it outta existence permanently then yeah but some poor people somewhere are probably stressed and working hard
Would i have any problems with queen of the damned + tragedians fabolous followers?
Can't create a patch, i am on xbox
You'd probably want to ask the author or people directly involved with that.
I understand that. However, I also understand things as a professional who works with and around servers, and have experience both in break/fix and database management. I understand that the process of pushing updates is complicated due to multiple factors, and that unexpected consequences can render a service temporarily unavailable. It has been 4 days. Coms have been bad, and frankly if it is giving them such trouble they should have simply reverted to a known-stable version, as virtually every industry I have worked with and for has been capable of doing. I have my suspicions as to why this is not done, but I don't want to cast stones more than is reasonable. But by still having the sale of the product available without providing a solid timeframe to their customer base, and with the expectation that it should already be available, they are not exactly demonstrating good practices.
I wish they knew mods don't work without the servers roo
Ya know what… can’t disagree with any of that lol I think this is fair. Now I’m mad let’s get to cussing. Jk but great point
I was hoping that you had already downloaded and installed them. It's my understanding that as long as you don't need to enter the in-game mods menu to adjust load order you can continue to play the game just fine.
according to the zenimax terms of service, they do not guarantee that any services will be available, nor that they will inform you of the fact that they are unavailable. they may patch them at any time with no prior notice, and they dont have to correct any errors
No I can't leave a place without being stuck in a loading screen I even waited an hour irl to see if it would load
This may be in the ToS, but it is not how it works in function. Legally speaking, by offering sale of a feature or product you must have an implicit guarantee of at least providing the listed service or products so as to not commit fraud. This circumvents terms of service. They are not required to patch errors or maintain their service, but any purchase listed must be as-is in US law.
But beyond that, I'm talking specifically about professional discourtesy, and how the handling of the situation and informed communication has been botched. The law vs ToS debate is just silly.
theres a section for downloadable content (creation club) specifically:
You agree that You have no ownership right or title in or to any such Downloadable Content, including, but not limited to, the virtual goods appearing or originating in the Services (such as a Game) or any other attributes associated with any Account or Services.
You acknowledge and agree that all virtual items represent a limited license right for Your personal, private, non-commercial, non-transferable, and limited use governed by these Terms of Service and are not redeemable for any sum of money or monetary value from ZeniMax at any time.
I’ve literally just bought it not knowing it was all offline… I’m fuming
I just wish they'd give us an update on whether or not we are going to hear any thing tonight
I doubt we will
I guest tomorrow
Bruh its still offline
I really don't want to argue ToS vs Law vs Professional Conduct, because it's outright stupid and has no basis in what I was even complaining about. But if I must break it down:
"You agree that You have no ownership right or title in or to any such Downloadable Content, including, but not limited to, the virtual goods appearing or originating in the Services (such as a Game) or any other attributes associated with any Account or Services." - This statement is a disclaimer of ownership, an intellectual property clause, and so not related to what you are claiming it means.
"You acknowledge and agree that all virtual items represent a limited license right for Your personal, private, non-commercial, non-transferable, and limited use governed by these Terms of Service and are not redeemable for any sum of money or monetary value from ZeniMax at any time." - Yes, and this limited-license is not being provided at this time (by failure to fulfil it for stated purposes), but is still being charged for and sold as such. That is not allowed under US law, because no longer being able to fulfil a license obligation would make it fraudulent.
"The Anniversary Upgrade includes pre-existing and new Creation Club content like quests, dungeons, bosses, weapons, spells, and more." - By advertising as such without providing any of the included advertised products, it could become fraud if denied to a customer. At the very least, it is grounds for a tort claim in the US.
Of course, none of us are arguing that them having a server booboo is illegal, or that their Terms of Service allow for it (which is only a legally binding contract so long as every part of it is legally enforceable, which in this case it plainly is not). I'm arguing that they should either temporarily de-list it, place a warning directly on it, or (as a purely professional measure) exercise better communication to set expectations. If you expect a service to be offline for days, tell people it may take until the next week. Or revert to a prior version, should one be available.
@pulsar wing I'm gonna try to load a save outside
On Xbox are there any mods that make the enemy spawns different, so it's not like the same wolf on the same part of the path every time n stuff
And it's not working and fallout 4 just crashes for no reason
rip
I'm gonna punt Todd Howard
@delicate musk Is there anyway you can at the very least ask the team if they can give us anymore insight? At least information regarding it being down for longer than today and possibly this weekend?
Nope it's automated responses only
Well at least I tried if that's the case. We deserve at least the slightest bit more of information here.
No information at this time. When there's ANY updated, we will let yall know.
thank you :/
I'm gonna go play on the PS3
nah something must have exploded cuz what
@peak mesa - Thanks. The silence is what's frustrating the playerbase. We are some loyal supporters, being the games been out for 12 years.
i just bought the game 2 days ago i feel like this is my fault
bad timing
Update in #modding-news
Bruh
It’s ok take your time
That means I get your job! (jk -- I don't want that job lmao)
Well at least I know I can step away until Monday.
Atleast my load order doing good
im getting pranked right?
now has there always been a minute cooldown for this chat or is that a prank too?
I’m also mad because I can’t fix my load order and there are mods that conflict
ive never been so disappointed in a developer like this lol i get it may be a lot of work on their end but still
At the very least they should’ve avoided saying it would update at 12
But I’m not complaining because this game is really old it’s probably just a internal problem with the game and they are trying to fix it who really knows there is a number of things that could have happened
They took off for home for the weekend
Stop complaining and just be patient
Thing is the game ran perfectly fine before that, aside from the common bethesda bug (it just works)
You guys think during this maintenance they would fix the 60fps mod I seen it’s been down for a while due to them needing to do an update.
Dang
It’s because mostly everyone except for quite a bit of people are here to complain
And complaining is exactly what they should do
@sullen star lol that's funny
From personal experience that’s why cyberpunk 2077 came out unfinished with quite a few features taken out and never added back

To be fair that was because it was set to release on old gen too, which limited the game itself
Same.
That is the excuse they gave for last gen consoles next generation consoles were supposed to have quite a bit of futures that were removed due to being unfinished and or not ready
I think ignoring everyone after your initial tweet two days ago, is going to put a bad taste in everyone’s mouth maybe start maintenance on Mondays so if stuff messes up, you don’t have to ask people to work on the weekend
I don’t have the patience to wait through this maintenance
They were unfinished and unready because they had to worry about old gen
I don’t get why they couldn’t just work on the update but keep mods and creation club up, just on an older version
I thought coders slammed Red Bull and Adderall, and didn’t worry about the clock let’s go
I'm out atleast my game ok to play I got this load order done before they did this I'm just missing 2 mods but oh well see ya
Because it's server-side.
I just had mods unchecked until a certain point in the game and now I am there and need them
don't want to say i told you so, but ....
Wanted to check out populated Civil War with the underworld Civil War
And just like updating a live server for a game, they can work on it while keeping the servers up (take gmod for example, with their server updates)
Technically it might not be Monday lol, could be later
@sullen star I got elfx shadows n hardcore but I forgot my candlelight mod the one where the light last for 10 mins but I can live without it and Sofia the one I get she's naked oh I'm on xbox
Pay those nerds double time and let’s get it ready for Saturday!
or it could be earlier, depends on how well the maintenance goes
@sullen star I rush my load order lol
Unlikely since they said it would go on through the weekend lol
i mean, too bad ig lol it won't magically be done now
Ok I'm going to play skyrim you all have fun
@sullen star I'll be back on for now on I like this discord
pain.
its projected to go through the weekend, yeah, but before all that they were also projecting to be a pretty short maintenance, things dont always go as planned, so it could be done by tomorrow, sunday or the next week, hell, even the entire month if things get REALLY bad.
Does gmod.. not also do the same exact thing?
I'm definitely not gonna expect it lol, I'm guessing it'll be done by Wednesday tbh, but who knows
Gmod works off of file sharing and and browsing too, it’s a massive sandbox game after all, although you utilize the steam workshop for it
yeah, who knows actually? imma just let fate do the thing and decide when the maintenance is gonna be over.

Eew they are now saying maintenance will last all weekend.
There’s no way ts is maintenance😭
wat
We are lucky they are even working on it over the weekend. In the past they did not.
Lucky is a funny way to put it
Better than them not.
And what was wrong with the game that hasn’t been wrong with it since it came out? I don’t see why they should fix it now
Maitinance is a preventative thing. Must be done to keep things working well. Better than waiting for things to not work. Do you wait to change the oil in your car until the engine seizes. Nope. Same thing.
Brb, I need to check a... thing...
Bethesda right now wants to make me get a PC
We'll have to see what they add. I've been hearing a lot of rumors. I think it is much more than just 'changing the oil'
Although it's very welcome news they're working overtime
They would have announced something if so. All they announced was maitinance. Might be related to something to come later but my money says once we are back to normal it will be as it always was. N
Is cristobot here? I just want to say that 1 of his mod is making the game crash consistently in certain places, caves, and ruins on ps4
So it could be maintenance for the framing of an addition yet to come. I hope the audience like it if that is true. No

