fallout-4-chat

[fathom oasis]

And weapon fov sliders even, they are way too close to the screen

[potent perch]

I want Aim Assist Turned off for Console Version, It Is Like Playing Double Aim Bot With That And VATS As Well LOL

[fathom oasis]

BFG=spray and pray

[potent perch]

I know VATS is aim bot anyways ha ha

[summer folio]

i want fallout 4 to be a different game than fallout 4 /s

[potent perch]

In what way ?

[potent perch]

I think it’s perfect it just need Fixes

[summer folio]

i was being sarcastic lol

[potent perch]

Oh Couldn’t Tell LOL

Did_You_Disliked_that???

[summer folio]

i honestly thought about saying "New Vegas remaster" 😂

[potent perch]

Oh hell yea

[foggy horizon]

Starfield? What’s that? ||(Sarcasm)||

[summer folio]

i'm honestly excited and will end up buying fallout 4 AE on both pc and my series x

[potent perch]

Maybe CC DLC

[potent perch]

Deflated No Mans Sky Simulator LOL

[potent perch]

Wait so NV Remaster is Happening ???

[summer folio]

it's not

[potent perch]

Oh😥

Ah u just changed it lol

Yea I am too 👍

I just want them fixing my favourite game as all Fallout 4 Was My First Fallout And I Love it

It has everthing I ever wanted in a game

Base Building Survival Open World Guns

No Who ??

Hints please

If it’s politics nope prefer to live in a Vault LOL

Ah ok yea I need to replay I haven’t played in ages because of the Issues on Console

Yea when a remaster comes out for PS5

Until then Fallout 4 I shall live lol

[stoic oasis]

idk about PS5 but over on Xbox Fallout 3 is even in 4k looks better then it ever did in 2008

[potent perch]

Yea well Console has it rough because someone don’t like Fixing Issues LOL

[potent perch]

We got to get PS Plus subscription just to stream play it for some god knows reason

[stoic oasis]

no no i mean over on Xbox they enhanced Fallout 3 for Series S and X

basically only means its in 4k now tbh

[potent perch]

Mmmm wonder if we have that on PS???

[stoic oasis]

thats what i was saying lol, idk about playstation cuz i like modding my Fallout 4 and Playstation is a non-factor due to Sony no external assets rules

[distant turret]

Hey, am I going insane or is there no mention of HDR for the anniversary edition? They added numerous updates, did a next gen update, now an anniversary edition, and... no HDR?

[potent perch]

Yea Exsaclty

[potent perch]

I hope we have it man

[distant turret]

No, unfortunately.

[potent perch]

Yea but still have to stream play a game that was ment to be played offline lol

[stoic oasis]

but what the other guy said. Play Fallout 3 you wont regret it(okay it does feel a bit clanky)

[distant turret]

It was enhanced as part of Xbox one x enhanced. Then they added 60 fps with fps boost for series x

Playstation didnt do the same afaik

[potent perch]

Yea I can’t go back really it’s like 30FPS I might as well use Sandpaper as Toilet Paper or Glasses LOL

[stoic oasis]

oh damn must have something to do with microsoft owning bethesda andso

cuz fallout 3 on Series X is the best version of the game on console there is atm 4k and 60 fps

[potent perch]

Exsaclty we will be lucky if we ever see Fallout 5 on Playstation

[distant turret]

I dont even think so necessarily. Xbox has just always put more emphasis on improving old games

[potent perch]

Mmm I got to look into this

[stoic oasis]

if true dude HAS to try fallout 3 aint no reason not too

not knowing why Sarah is damn

[potent perch]

Is there survival mode in it?

[stoic oasis]

nah but it dont need one, death is around every corner lol

[distant turret]

Can't find that. I googled the exact same thing. Did you just read the ai summary? Because that is wildly inaccurate 9/10 times

[potent perch]

We have to stream play it on Playstation

Offline online only games is a no no for me

[stoic oasis]

article says playstation already had a fps boost few years before the xbox 4k mode?

[potent perch]

Mmmmm ok

[distant turret]

Im doubtful on the accuracy. And if it is true anyways, I've always found streaming to be horrible. Even on Xbox where streaming is more prioritized, even with good internet the experience is poor

If true and a good experience though, then good

[stoic oasis]

i might be old skool lol but i like to have the hardware im running games on IN my home thank you very much xD miss me with that streaming xD

[distant turret]

Id be fine with streaming if it was a good experience. Im not opposed to technological innovation, but it needs to surpass the alternatives

[stoic oasis]

oh starfield lol, the game i made like 15 mods for and was like nah i cant be bothered

[potent perch]

Mate it’s a joke I am never doing that S it’s worse enough share screening with someone

Why they are use to endless space and negativity lol

[distant turret]

You told them the same about us 🥸 🧐

[potent perch]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-gif-13086775882161978268

[wintry oak]

I hope that they integrate AR2 and SS2 as semi official creations and increase the mod limit for console players

[dim spade]

So does this creations announcement mean we are finally getting a mod space size increase on console?

[wintry oak]

And AR2 would be a good way to fix the NG Enclave ngl, plus it would mean they likely get a patch so the two narratively work together and they both also fit the goals of improving the story of Fallout 4, making VT the main villains (they're the ones finding the Gunners in SS2), and bringing back the Enclave, plus the creator of AR2 also works at Bethesda

Lmao

Probably something they'd fix

[regal urchin]

Why must Fallout get another update and this time with the rest of creation club content that I don't even want?

[wintry oak]

I'd also hope they get the VA's of Nate and Nora to reprise their roles for more accurate responses instead of the vanilla ones, which are kinda unimmersive, plus they'd need to anyways to make both mods work narratively together

But yeah the lore and gameplay and such all just is so perfect and would make Fallout 4 anniversary edition well worth it on consoles, not even accounting for all the other fixes, content, and mod space increase hopefully

[regal urchin]

If there's actually new content that involves original voice actors reprising their roles with new dialogue instead of reusing vanilla dialogue, then I would've been sold on this Anniversary update. Still, I selectively bought some creation club content that I actually liked. The other ones I don't want to buy because I don't find the rest of them interesting, nor lore friendly, nor worth the money, nor appropriate for Fallout.

[wintry oak]

This is epic and I'm super excited we may be getting the real deal here

That's awesome

I'm buying anniversary edition

Especially if they do the 3 things I hope for

Fallout 4 is coming back strong baby!!!

Bethesda has done a smart move

Muahahahahahahahah

[feral wigeon]

And I still won't be able to play it

My luck sucks

[wintry oak]

Damn

[regal urchin]

For example, I wouldn't want the Anti Material Rifle creation club unless they change the story that's more suitable and appropriate to Fallout. Watching Oxhorn's video and review of the Anti-Material Rifle CC for Fallout 4 made me not want to buy it because the story is confusing. That type of story IMHO is much more suited in Skyrim or any Elder Scrolls games.

[feral wigeon]

My laptop fried in May and my mom won't give me my money back

She's a hypocrite lmao

[wintry oak]

I only care that they make some stuff happen with SS2 and AR2 and increase console mod storage with some new content

[feral wigeon]

Console mod storage increase is long overdue

[regal urchin]

Fair enough. It's just that the problem with the Anniversary edition is that all those Creation Club content coming with the Anniversary would ultimately make them canonical in the base game. The last update for Fallout 4 involving the Enclave is fair enough to be canonical and I'm fine with the way they handled the Enclave Remnant's appearance in Fallout 4 for the last NG update.

[feral wigeon]

@queen hollow Doesn't mean I won't buy AE day one xD

[wintry oak]

If they do AR2 NG Enclave will be even better, and I'm sure creations will be adjusted to fit more accurately into the lore

[regal urchin]

I hope so for at least the Anti Material Rifle, and just retcon that as someone who is just on chems thinking something supernatural is making those people who had a hold of the material rifle go bonkers and explain more of how and why the Anti Material Rifle, with the NCR engraving on it got from the West Coast to the Commonwealth.

[wintry oak]

Fair enough

Mama Murphy 2.0 lol

[regal urchin]

They could easily explain how the Anti Material Rifle got to the Commonwealth by Post-War black market style stuff sold by raiders and underworld dealers, probably got a hold of them from a dead NCR veteran ranger years ago during the NCR-Legion war, and sold the rifle given by the highest bidder, transported all the way to the Commonwealth.

[wintry oak]

Maybe a Gun Runners Vertibird crashed

[regal urchin]

That too. I forgot about the Gun Runners. Maybe the Crimson Caravan might have something to do with shady things involving smuggling the Anti Material Rifle given by a shady dealer.

[feral wigeon]

What I wouldn't give to see new fonts in localized versions

English has a lot of different fonts and Polish is stuck with Roboto almost everywhere

[wintry oak]

Maybe

[somber echo]

I think the smarter move would be to have it arrive in the Commonwealth via BoS.

[wintry oak]

Tbh that also is a good move

[dim bluff]

I missed the stream are they boosting the mod space on console?

[topaz zinc]

What if they give you a variant of the laser rifle that is more powerful than its original counterpart to equal out to a combat rifle damage for anniversary edition cc in the future

[sweet marten]

On PC there are NexusMods laser mods to make lasers less pitiful, including at least one that lets you choose your favorite color for it. A CC version would be nice for consoles and switch though. Stock lasers are sadface.

[dapper lodge]

So I have a question with the anniversary edition will there also be bug fixes? Especially with how the creation club system works with consoles because I would love to have the creation items in my game but it just breaks my game and console every time I try 😞

[summer folio]

this is the sum of what we know for sure, anything else is speculation: https://bethesda.net/en/article/N00XVTawnzBBH7HNwv0hN/fallout-4-anniversary-edition-announced

[dapper lodge]

Thx 👍

[hollow abyss]

Question, is the anniversary edition gonna be for xbox one, because i am saving up for a Series S because i do own a Fallout 4 GOTY edition

[summer folio]

yes

says so in the announcement page

[magic current]

soooo dose anyone have a clue how much mod space we will have on xbox for the AE setup?

[crimson moon]

🦗

[rose burrow]

Is it going to be an all new version or is it like skyrim where I can buy a the pack seperate?

[hollow abyss]

I bet the graphics are going to be Way much smoother

[weak coyote]

It's just fo4 goty next gen version with all creation club.

[languid tide]

Is it me or is anyone having issues with Bethesda servers on Xbox?

[weak coyote]

Everyone on most platforms if your talking about operation cannot be completed

[naive cliff]

I see another Skyrim backlash coming. Fallout 4 edition.

[hollow abyss]

Like i've been waiting for fallout 4 to come out with something amazing and now, that day finally arrived november 10th isn't far.

[naive cliff]

More paywalled exclusive mods, just like with Skyrim. And I'm told by people that it's not adding mods from Creations.

[hard lion]

That's too bad. The next-gen update is so buggy and it killed so many mods...

[naive cliff]

I think people stopped caring that there's paid mods now.

[hollow abyss]

So what will be the effects of these Creations to the base game of Fallout 4

because if i afford something from creations and slap it to Fallout 4 i wonder would it effect the game

[naive cliff]

When creations came out, it ruined a Skyrim load order on my Xbox. I had to wipe the cache of it.

And there were issues with Creations menu then.

I want to hope that they'll prevent the same issues from being present on Fallout 4 like it was with Skyrim.

[ebon jay]

What are they talking about, creations coming to Fallout 4 for the first time?

It makes zero sense, there is already a mod store on fallout 4 and I’ve already bought creations….. I don’t understand what exactly is new

[austere wedge]

its gonna be the same change that happened to skyrim's store.

but this time fallout

[ebon jay]

What was that change, exactly?

[weak coyote]

User made mods for purchase.

[weak coyote]

I wasn't playing skyrim at that time, did the change completely break all your installed mods?

[austere wedge]

no. mine worked fine.

the update did require some nexus mods to update however.

[weak coyote]

Know anything how it effected consoles?

[austere wedge]

that I'm not sure about I'm on pc. I didn't hear about any serious probs from the console side at the time tho.

[weak coyote]

The in-game mod menu mods was still in there, you could access your favorites and such, or will all mods need to be updated to the new thing?

[austere wedge]

the cc stuff should just stay installed. its mostly a UI update w/ some new "features" the rest should still be there.

so yes to 1 and no to 2.

[weak coyote]

Cool, really don't want to start over, basically have modded survival how I want it.

With Playstations limits anyways

Just hope they worked on bug fixes

[novel kayak]

I have a bad feeling about this based on how the release for Anniversary Edition on Skyrim went

[naive goblet]

Anniversary Edition Question:

Will I be able to use my existing character with the Anniversary Edition (PS5)? Will it update the game that I already own or be a separate purchase?

[weak coyote]

My guess... It's an upgrade purchase, same as skyrim anniversary edition was.

Basically your buying all creation club content that already was available, and anything new they decide to include.

[gaunt lion]

Do we think we’ll get anymore answers today around Xbox mod limits, and save games?

[small iron]

The crazy thing is that I really want to like FO4 Anniversary. I really did enjoy the CC content, and would definitely be interested in getting a lot more, but I need a more compelling reason to re-purchase what is essentially the same game that I've had for 10 years. They really couldn't afford to create a new DLC? Something the size of Automatron? How about more mod space, so I can play bigger mods like Fallout London? Or even just enhanced graphics? How am I supposed to be excited for this?

[potent perch]

Yea man this is exactly what I want also. Mostly I just Want The DEVs to FIX The ISSUEs And BUGs Improve Performance On PS5 Pro / PS5 and other Consoles

[potent perch]

I will be getting t in hope that they do realease a update to fix Fallout 4 hopfully

[true geyser]

So folks, is there any info about anything new with the upcoming new release?

[potent perch]

Bugs Probably LOL

[true geyser]

Pity. There's so many great things they could port from 76. New weapons, armors, workshop items. But alas.

[true geyser]

They can't afford a new DLC for something that's been released a decade ago. So yeah, the best they can do is just incorporate CC or basically, official mods, into the game.

Though i wonder, how many mods could justify a new release?

[potent perch]

You never know it might be in this AE

[potent perch]

I am on PS5 Pro and there is only 2 things I want from this AE Fallout 4 1. BUG Fixes and Performance Improvements. 2. CC content New Content to Not Disable Trophy’s that is All I Want

Too Much To Ask I Know LOL I love Fallout 4 I Really Hope These Things Happen

[weak coyote]

It's just a "complete version" for people that don't own, and a package for people that don't own the dlcs and ccc.

[potent perch]

Those Black Textures that Appear and the flicker textures on some buildings need fixing Big Time

[weak coyote]

PS5, 99 mods, Performance mode, 60fps, game runs good for me, occasionally crashing and bugginess from extended play, runs way better than ps4 version.

I don't get black textures, I get weird rainbow textures, and I had a bush stretch out in multiple directions with this black mess everywhere filling a large part of the map.

[potent perch]

Either way I want this fixed when November the 10th Hits if this isn’t Fixed by then I can see A lot Of People Being Very Disappointed

[celest mason]

how do i create mods

[serene arch]

Download Creation Kit ( free on Steam) and learn to use it, ask advice from modders in mod channels

[hollow abyss]

I mean there may be no new vegas remaster but hey at least we can have a brand new anniversary version of fallout 4 with 6 DLC's and 150 creations

[potent perch]

DEVS If U Are Reading This Please Please Fix Everything You Can For Fallout 4 on PS5 PRO / PS5 We Are Limited To Mods As It Is So Please At least Make It So That Fallout 4 Runs As Smoothly As Possible On PS Consoles. I Love Fallout 4 And I know You Guys Are Getting Back Lash For This Anniversary Edition But Fallout 4 Has Everything I Ever Wanted In A Game And More. We Will All Truly Appreciate It If You Can FIX Everything You Can As Last Update Ruined It.

Many Thanks In Advance Moderators Please Send This To The DEVs I would Really Appreciate It

[obtuse elbow]

You're basically just shouting into the void

[potent perch]

I know but I wanted to try as all

[potent perch]

Literally the only thing that FO4 is missing content wise is Official Vehicles I know mods have them but for someone that is on playstation console we are limited

[stoic oasis]

i mean you can always hope Sony will finally allow external assets since now they can make money off of mods(Fallout 4 is gonna get creations akin to Skyrim right? and Skyrim on Sony has external assets now no?)

[potent perch]

No clue does it !??????

[potent perch]

That’s News to me

[stoic oasis]

i dont play skyrim nor do i own a playstation but i have heard that Skyrim has external assets on Sony now since the paid mods andso

[potent perch]

Someone on PS Console needs to clarify this I don’t have it downloaded sadly

[stoic oasis]

yeah sources say Sofia the follower mod is on Sony Skyrim now and that mod 100% has external assets lol

[potent perch]

NFW I Hope To God We Have This For Fallout 4 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[ebon jay]

Can you imagine a new Vegas remaster that ALSO got a creation club store/mod browser? That would be sooooo epic

[magic current]

i just hope we get info about the mod space that F4AE will have

[toxic remnant]

how does one fix the side corner screen glitch, cuz whatever i do it doesnt fix

[blazing laurel]

Just bought fo4 goty and fnv ultimate before rn

Will the anniversary stuff be available as a discounted upgrade on steam?

[barren turret]

I highly doubt anything including anniversary will include discount tbh

[dim bluff]

I hope the creation boost brings more mod space or at least the option to purchase more space for consoles

[silver plank]

[upbeat kernel]

“The option to purchase more space” isn’t that just essentially a setting decided by Bethesda? 😭

[dim bluff]

I’m at the point where if they monetized it I would genuinely be willing to

Kinda tired of having no space for a full mod list I want to try out

[gaunt lion]

Do we think we’ll get anymore answers today around Xbox mod limits, and save games?

[scenic shoal]

Oh yeah fallout 4 mods are going to get smited again

Thanks Bethesda you just made me the mayor of frown town

[blazing laurel]

Doesn’t it just use your ssd for mod space?

[hard lion]

Consoles have a weird hard set cap on the number of mods.

[blazing laurel]

Xbox players need to start the great migration to pc

[hard lion]

PC master race reigns supreme.

If the AE coming out incorporates all the fixes from things like the "Unofficial Patch" mods and other game engine improvements it would a justifiable purchase, but anything without A LOT of stability improvements (especially the 'next-gen' regressions) is a slap in the face of Fallout fans.

[thorn summit]

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Abusive language and disruptive behavior will not be tolerated. This includes comments directed at ZeniMax/Bethesda employees, mods, your fellow community members, or other groups or companies.

[potent perch]

DEVS If U Are Reading This Please Please Fix Everything You Can For Fallout 4 on PS5 PRO / PS5 We Are Limited To Mods As It Is So Please At least Make It So That Fallout 4 Runs As Smoothly As Possible On PS Consoles. I Love Fallout 4 And I know You Guys Are Getting Back Lash For This Anniversary Edition But Fallout 4 Has Everything I Ever Wanted In A Game And More. We Will All Truly Appreciate It If You Can FIX Everything You Can As Last Update Ruined It.

Many Thanks In Advance Moderators Please Send This To The DEVs I would Really Appreciate It

[dim bluff]

No, on xb there’s an allocated 2gb of mod space

[blazing laurel]

I really hope the switch 2 edition is a fair price and not $60-$70

[potent perch]

I can’t even see FO4 running well on that thing tbh

[blazing laurel]

A quick google search says the switch 2 is as powerful as a series S and probably better docked.

If it can run cyberpunk 2077 it can run fallout 4

[coarse halo]

Just unfollow the Fallout 1st, and you'll see how the developers will start moving and maybe even listen to the community and players.

[feral skiff]

What is the deal on this annv edition? If I already have Fo4 and all the DLC, what would be different with this annv edition?

[potent perch]

Oh wow I didn’t know it could run cyberpunk so question is now 30FPS or Solid 60FPS?

[blazing laurel]

40fps

[potent perch]

LOL Case Closed

[blazing laurel]

40fps is a noticeable jump from 30

[potent perch]

Yea only half as painful LOL

[blazing laurel]

You know what does run at 30fps on switch 2

Skyrim

[potent perch]

Solid 60 is default For Me Now Sadly

[potent perch]

Doesn’t surprise me

[clear bobcat]

Guys, do you know if there will be a physical release for fallout 4 on switch 2?

[blazing laurel]

It hasn’t been updated for some reason

[blazing laurel]

For me its 40 on a console and 60 on pc

[potent perch]

Solid 60 for me on Console LOL PS5 Pro

[blazing laurel]

I can excuse consoles since their meant to be cheaper systems

[potent perch]

Yea PS5 Pro is Cheap Cough Cough £700+ Cough Cough £250 Controller Cough Cough LOL

£500 headphones cough cough yea well cheap

[blazing laurel]

That’s half my pc cost so im fine with it running half the frames

[potent perch]

Jesus

Con much

No Such Thing As Cheap When It Comes To Gaming LOL

PC too much Hassle not worth it in my book

[blazing laurel]

Building it is half the fun

[potent perch]

Plus I work on one as it is so F that

[potent perch]

Sure I love making a camp fire in my bedroom lol

[blazing laurel]

Switch 2 is a pretty good price but the games are what makes it expensive

[potent perch]

PS All The Way

[blazing laurel]

Yeah love playing spiderman remastered on steam

[potent perch]

Love not Getting Hacked Or Having VPN On Console LOL

Oooo Forgot About The New Threat Known As AI yep good times on PC

console There Own Entity Pick Up An Play what more is there to like LOL

[toxic ridge]

Hey how many vertibird grenades do you think I should stock up on for a fairly long survival playthrough siding with the institute? I have 3,500 and planned on 11,000 but I'm not sure if that is overkill 🤷 lol

[potent perch]

Yea I Think That Will Crash It LOL Nice One 😆😆🤣

[toxic ridge]

Oh no!!! You think so???

[potent perch]

So each one will spawn a vertibird yea if that the case wouldn’t be suprised

[toxic ridge]

Yeah, but i'd only spawn 1 at a time

[potent perch]

So how many going to be in the air at a time ?

[toxic ridge]

1

[potent perch]

Should be fine then

Oh what so u going side with BOS to Get Vertibird Grenades and then side with institute?

[blazing laurel]

Never got hacked and never used a vpn

[toxic ridge]

It's because you can't get vertibird grenades after siding with the institute, but you can still use the ones you already had. Without those grenades travel can be nightmarishly long in survival. You do get a teleport ability but you can only travel to 2 places

[toxic ridge]

Yes!

[potent perch]

Oh man yea save up for as long as you can then

[blazing laurel]

I never got to deep into the brotherhood. How do you even get so many grenades

[potent perch]

Good question 👍

See when AE Comes out I Want to do a Survival Vanilla Playthrough get nuka world done first kill all raiders then join rail road for weave then join minute men

[blazing laurel]

Only time i can recall using them was to leave the glowing sea after meeting virgil

[toxic ridge]

It's a process, and it all started after I had to redo a lvl 40 survival playthrough because I missed loot 😂 🤦

So in the new game I havent activated the survival mode yet as a catch up. After completing the quest at fort strong teagan will sell you between 5-9 grenades every 2 in-game days. There is a chair around the corner and you gotta wait, buy, and repeat!

I've always played these games in a super specific way with unique outcomes 🤣

[blazing laurel]

Whats stopping you from doing all that now? All the stuff you mentioned is in the game already

[potent perch]

Devs lol

[potent perch]

Would rather wait for them to bug the game and then fix it again before playing because right now painful on PS5

[blazing pike]

My boy

[potent perch]

I just hope we get treated well with this AE For Fallout 4 As All We Need Fixes Bad 😥😭

[blazing pike]

I wouldn’t get my hopes up. I’m more mad at Sony for limiting us

[potent perch]

Same but I more care about the game being fixed then anything else really

[blazing pike]

I understand

[potent perch]

I was always annoyed at them for limiting us but yea if we get external it’s a bonus but can’t see it happening at-least we have a chance for BUG Fixes

🫡👍

[blazing pike]

Bug fixes will be the only thing we get. We won’t get very many different VCs because of the limitations.

[potent perch]

That’s fine by me I have come to terms with that not the Bugs And Issues Though

[blazing laurel]

Anniversary edition is just gonna be a bundle with creations, not a new version. except on switch 2.

Same with skyrim, anniversary edition is just special edition with creations bundled in

[potent perch]

I know but there was talk of Skyrim AE having an Update Before it to fix things or on the day

Like a day 1 patch

They might be doing this with Fallout 4 AE but only one could hope and it is logical for the Devs to do this I believe.

[ebon jay]

Bethesda? Updates? yeah right buddy

[magic current]

really do wish they gave us info bout the mod space

[normal saddle]

someone help me out i won the giveaway how do i claim ts 😭

[torpid galleon]

Probably the main reason if such a thing is happening is that the company won't announce something that isn't for sure going to happen, and thus be in the patch notes.

Better to keep radio silence.

[nocturne bolt]

Suprised they don’t release a beta update like sf does so atleast so stuff can be ready.

[terse bay]

Just got 84/84 achievements in FO4. Now to go after New Vegas

[uneven whale]

congratulations

okay this is the only game which does it. why the heck does fallout 4 auto darkens and brightens?

it gets so bad that when ti auto darkens I cant see crap

[timid oar]

Why are the mantis greaves so unbelievably over priced?

[uneven whale]

low charisma?

[timid oar]

Pretty mid but I mean base price

Compared to the wastelander chest that’s a fraction of the price

[small iron]

They probably did, but didn't think that was a good selling point, so they kept it out of the trailer.

[small iron]

Like I said, more gigs so we can play bigger mods on consoles, like Fallout London. That would have been enough.

BTW, does anybody actually like the Nuka-World dlc? I personally always hated how you basically have to invade the Commonwealth and destroy your reputation with the Minutemen and the Brotherhood. I don't have it in me to be that bad of a character, so the whole dlc story felt super inconvenient to me.

[uneven whale]

same here

I just do open season while there

I swear to god this darkening and brightening thing is starting to tick me off. how can I turn it off?

it is daylight and I still cant see infront of me

[gaunt lion]

Anyone know if your save file carries over from base game to goty edition? If so it likely carry over to new version based on the new article

[heavy kelp]

Have they stated if the mod limit is increasing for fallout 4?

[small iron]

Nothing

[heavy kelp]

Damn I hope they give us something

[summer folio]

#fallout-4-chat message this everything we know

[weak coyote]

It's supposed to simulate eye adjustment to bright / dark areas

[uneven whale]

oh so it is a feature?

I thought it was the xbox or the game oversimulating

[lethal delta]

Dear god, Bethesda's at it again. Another update that's gonna break Fallout 4. -_-

Please tell me they're gonna put it through QA this time and do thorough testing before releasing it.

[indigo imp]

Is this update going to break my mods? I am on pre-next-gen and won’t get the anniversary edition.

[summer folio]

this is all we know https://bethesda.net/en/article/N00XVTawnzBBH7HNwv0hN/fallout-4-anniversary-edition-announced

[charred bay]

Preying that the Anniversary edition has increased mod space because how does Starfield have 100 GB and Skyrim has 5 GB while Fallout 4 has 2 GB!?

[terse bay]

Than you.

I didn't realize New Vegas has a Hardcore mode that you need to complete to get an achievement. I might be passing on NV then

[summer folio]

it's due to how at the time the memory system worked on xbox one and Playstation 4 and they weren't expecting the fans to want so many mods. They couldn't increase the size due to bricking modlist on the consoles.

[silver plank]

Did you hear the one about the Chinese godfather?
Made him an offer he couldn’t understand

[summer folio]

the fan out pouring on using mods prompted the 5 gb limit on skyrim and the as much mdos as you have room for on starfield

[uneven whale]

it's only one achievement

and new vegas' hardcore mode isnt as bad as like say fallout 4

companions die, thirst and food and sleep meters,

thats it

so dont use companions and eat sleep and drink

thats about it

[sweet marten]

it's a paid upgrade so maybe BGS won't push a new client. On PC if you google there's supposed to be a way to break Steam forced updates, and for GOG Galaxy you can just turn them off.

[silver plank]

Whackin whackin whackin
Heckin it slashinnit
Choppin that wood

He’s hacking, whackin, slashin

[terse bay]

I looked it up. I thought there was perma-death meaning I would have to restart if killed. But I can handle eating, drinking, and sleeping. Seems fast travel might be picky though as you can fast travel, starve, and die. The more I looked into it the more I realized I wanted all of this to matter in 76

[uneven whale]

no

you can save multiple times infact. infact fallout 4 survival mode is way worse then new vegas

I have beaten new vegas with survival, it isnt that bad

[potent perch]

That would have been the only thing that would have sold it for me because I don’t know I am reluctant on even buying the AE

[weak coyote]

If it's like skyrim anniversary edition upgrade, I'd pay 20 bucks or so... Not buying a whole new game at 70,since I own goty and the only ccc I'd even care about is backpacks, gunners VS Minutemen, and settlement ambush.

They should have done a new dlc for this anniversary edition... Like something that ties into the show.

[blazing pike]

I thought that too but you can look up an easy guide to hardcore where it’s a speed run. It’s not as hard as you think. I thought it was impossible but I did it on the 360

[rain hazel]

If it doesn’t have a 100gb then I honestly can’t understand why anyone would buy it rather than just keep playing the current version

[dapper lodge]

Hey does anyone know if the Two Shot legendary can spawn on Gatling lasers in FO4?

[median nacelle]

Even agter buying all Creation Club on PS4 and Xbox Series X I'm all in with the AE upgrade after catching a glimpse of Rex chilling at what appears to be Spectacle Island! I'm also looking forward to high level Creations much like the EastvEmpire Company and Bards College add ons.

*after

[charred bay]

In that case this would be a perfect opportunity for more mod space! The modlists and everything is basically being changed and if its even a FRACTION off the mod space for Starfield we could possibly get mods like Fallout London on console! That would be a huge thing!

[small iron]

That's... not a lot.

[weak coyote]

Most likely the creations mod menu thing will be free update to current versions of the game.

All this AE is as I see it is goty version with all ccc.

[languid tide]

I swear if FO4 is still a buggy mess with this new addition and still only 2 GB for mods/creations, Im gonna be so annoyed.

[vagrant rune]

The anniversary needs mod space to be upgraded

Even if it means you can’t carry saves over

Better to have that happen than be stuck with 2 GB

At least then you’ll keep saves on the old game

[potent perch]

That reminds me I hope they fix that 2 shot legendary bug

[copper bone]

I raided a base and ate all the enemies

[lethal delta]

Bethesda really thinks we want a rerelease of games with junk added to it and possibly more bugs instead of Fallout 5 or Elder Scrolls 6. It's laughable because it's been 10 years since Fallout 4 released and they have had more than enough time to come back with another game. But instead they do this and fill it with CC slop, paid mods, potentially a lot of bugs, and advertise it as an upgrade? People should wake up and not buy into this crap. :/

[potent perch]

I ain’t but I want bug fixes so we have slight hope

[quaint sparrow]

What bugfixes ? Most , if not all bugs have been fixed by the community, and modded FO4 (with SS2 and FSD)is what Fallout 4 should have been in the first place.

[copper bone]

I started playing Fallout 4 again after 3 years

I made a new character that only uses melee weapons

[copper bone]

tips to make it really strong

[lethal delta]

You have a point and you're right, this stuff should've been in Fallout 4 in the first place. They've had more than enough time to fix these issues. But instead they release unnecessary updates that break the mods that fix these issues. You know the expression; If it isn't broke, don't fix it. I guarentee you that once this "Anniversary" edition comes out they'll release an update to the base game FOR the "Anniversary" edition just like they did with Skyrim that'll break 90% of mods including the ones that fix bugs by the Community. Ontop of that, they'll probably charge 60 bucks(given the tariff situation) for the upgrade.

Todd Howard should know by now this is not a good move. -_-

[tough umbra]

how much do you think the anniversary edition will cost

[austere wedge]

we can only guess at this point

skyrim's ANV edition is the only example to go off of.

[tough umbra]

155 DOLLARS?

[timid oar]

Ok I was thinking… Fallout 4 was in development for 7 years. Has been out for 10 years. Has been released on 3 gens of consoles. Has had numerous updates and DLCs. After 17 years how the hell does it still have game breaking bugs?

[feral wigeon]

Fallout 4 was in full development for 4-ish years

[timid oar]

Pre prod in the first half of 2009 full prod 2011.

Announced and released in 2015 if that matters

[heavy kelp]

Praying we get at least the increase to what Skyrim has

[limpid wind]

Ya know it just hit me, what a missed opportunity it was to have multiplayer in fallout 4. The theory of the player being a synth would make perfect sense if they allowed multiplayer, then you could have settlement warfare between players where you use a settlement to "declare war" on another player owned settlement, then you could have the defending players items stored at their settlement as a finite source of resources to use while they defend against the other players attacks, like actual siege warfare.

Also a damn shame that all the structures weren't destructible. With just a little bit of work, it could have been a legit real time strategy minigame

[potent perch]

Exsactly Devs haven’t Fixed Squat and I am on PS5 so limited to mods as it is.

[potent perch]

AE Will probably break those mods also

[limpid wind]

Bethesda doesn't even know how to properly bug fix lol

They are single handedly the must frustrating game company ive ever had to deal with lol, and it sucks that their games are still relatively unmatched in the type of game experience they deliver, the only ones even close are the witcher 3 and cyberpunk sadly.

But based on what I've dealt with since the release of morrowind, I swear its like they have one decent coder that works at bethesda and the rest are just artists or something non technically related.

It wasnt untill I played starfield and it turned out quite literally EXACTLY like I thought it would, and all the info I used to come to that conclusion was simply my vast experience in troubleshooting previous games and understanding the technical limits of the engine

The fact they didnt even TRY to make the dlc work with fallout 4 vr even after all this time is unacceptable

[thorn summit]

Please keep in mind, although it is ok to have a negative opinion, just bashing is against the #rules

[limpid wind]

Doesn't it seem creepy to have family friendly rules in an m rated title? That seems like your encouraging people too young to even play the game to be here...

[thorn summit]

As an official discord, we have rules we have to follow about age restriction content.

[limpid wind]

Literally quoting the game itself would break the rules of its own discord lol

[limpid wind]

But you do realize the bizarre contradiction right?

Even the show itself is even more vulgar

[thorn summit]

contradiction or not, those are the rules.

[limpid wind]

So literally dont even concern yourself with wether or not it makes any sense?

[thorn summit]

I am not going to argue over the server rules.

[limpid wind]

Im just trying to understand the logic here

Im not even trying to argue with you, im just trying to understand it lol

[thorn summit]

I told you already, Discord itself has rules we have to follow as well. Discord rating and game rating are different

[limpid wind]

What do you mean exactly? What do you mean by discord itself? I have my own channel as well, there was no mandatory cluase that said anything about content itself. Does this come from the companies that own fallout or discord?

I find this situation frustrating but also fascinating

[thorn summit]

ok so Discord's Terms of Service requires people to be over a minimum age to access the app or website. most country's are 16+ but some are 14+ which is under the threshold for mature content. Rating for most games is 17 or older.

[limpid wind]

So why dont you make it for people above 17 only? People that young shouldnt even be playing the game

Thats why it seems like your encouraging people too young to even play it to play

[thorn summit]

I don't know, put a suggestion for it in #discord-suggestions . For now, those are the rules

[limpid wind]

Thanks for taking the time to explain the situation

[thorn summit]

I get where you are coming from.

[limpid wind]

Its the second time ive encountered this in the past week, the other was cyberpunk 2077 which was even more bizarre

I mean that game has flat out full frontal nudity an everything, yet they seemingly encourage under 18 users to be there, and considering situations like the whole roblox thing, it might be worth reconsidering.

But since this is a fallout 4 chat this is the last ill speak about it, so thanks again. Wasn't trying to intentionally stir the pot

[thorn summit]

It's ok. if you dont ask you cant know right.

[potent perch]

Please Tell DEVs To Fix Fallout 4 PS5 Pro Version / PS5 it’s my favourite game and the latest update caused a lot of issues

[potent perch]

U said it how it is LOL truth hurts I guess

[limpid wind]

And i wasnt trying to just bad mouth the game, just really frustrated that one of my favorite games of all time by some maricle got a pc vr version that was exclusive to pc, which almost NEVER happens, only for it to be basically abandoned right after launch

I still cant believe how they implemented scopes in the game...it broke my heart lol.

the vast majority of my time spent playing the game was in offline mode since i didnt have highspeed internet available where i live at the time, but even still i have over 400 hours logged on the vr version alone, and ive played the flatscreen version at least 500 hours lol

[lilac saffron]

Fallout 4 on switch 2, man am I dreaming? When can I get this? Early next year hopefully?

[limpid wind]

they also ignored so many simple things like for instance, any door that functions literally and is locked with the (chained) label, you can literally stick your hand through the door and activate it from the other side to unlock it lol

[lilac saffron]

160+ creations is insane

[limpid wind]

cryolater at the start of the game....you can just stick your hand through the door an take it lol

[lilac saffron]

So this is basically like skyrim anniversary.

But for fallout.

[limpid wind]

and to think there were all those rumors of a fallout 3 remaster

[lilac saffron]

Okey dokey

[lilac saffron]

Oh it's not a rumor

[limpid wind]

which i bet were true, but then after seeing how horrible oblivion remastered turned out performance wise they prolly decided to delay

[lilac saffron]

It's a known thing. It's just a matter of time when we get it.

[limpid wind]

hell ive literally never managed to get it to run acceptable on my rtx 3080 build with an i9 10900kf thats overclocked to 5.29ghz

[lilac saffron]

That will probably come for switch 2 as well.

[thorn summit]

let's move away from rumors and misinformation please

[limpid wind]

sucks becuase visually it looks phenomenal

[lilac saffron]

I hope fall out. 4 looks pretty good on the switch. Like I hope you're able to get to run at 4K at 60fps

It's a Xbox One game, so they should.

[limpid wind]

theoretically it should be much easier to get good performance in a fallout 3 remaster if its done the same way becuase the number one cuase for bad performance in oblivion remastered is all the foliage

foliage with raytracing is always a HUGE performance drain

[lilac saffron]

I'm just curious , what this hundred and sixty creations is

[limpid wind]

however fallout 3 is almost entirely devoid of trees

[lilac saffron]

Like 160+ creations, what are they adding lol

[limpid wind]

a mess

heres an even better question, how much is canon?

youd think with the popularity of the tv show, they would be hard at work for a crossover dlc or something

[lilac saffron]

Meh, I don't care if it's canon.

[limpid wind]

id definitely load fallout 4 back up if they came out with a dlc that tied into season 2

[lilac saffron]

I'm a zelda fan, and I have enough Canon problems to worry about so I really don't care about Canon in fallout

I'm just glad I can play it on the go now and put hundreds of hours into it.

[limpid wind]

are you serious?!.....the story and world of bethesda games is what drew me into them in the first place. trying to figure out the mysteries and such, so if they just throw in a bunch of POOP....(smh) that contradicts the games established lore then im definetly not interested in it

[summer folio]

lol couldn't wrap his head around it

[summer folio]

it is what it is and note that we just the info back on the 23.

[summer folio]

hopefully

[marsh veldt]

Should I say that 150+ Creations we're already have if we count every paint/dog/Pip-boy paint/PA paint as separate creation?

[strong island]

hey guys my F4 got broken or smthing like in the principal menu the background of the continue and new game menu got slided to a side and the text doesnt have background somebody know how to fix that?? (Screenshots on #screenshots-and-video message )

[summer folio]

some of the 150 haven't been released

[silver plank]

There was a crazy fight at bunker hill once
Not the quest, this was just by enemies spawning
The robots spawned, raiders spawned, super mutants spawned it was nuts

Everyone from bunker hill ran out to fight them

[tough umbra]

😂

[sweet marten]

Random events like that has been one of the good things about BGS games. They're doing their own thing, it's not about you. It feels different from old JRPGs where traveling the world map meant random switch to battle time.

[weak coyote]

There are day one bugs still in all their games... Even the 20 year old well documented bugs in oblivion weren't fixed with remastered...

[pine gazelle]

Can a humans be used to be a suicide bombers like mutants do

[blazing pike]

Yeah I missed random encounters in new Vegas. It makes the world feel more alive because just like real life you never know who or what you’ll run into.

[weak coyote]

It's all the ccc that already exists and some new stuff they adding.

And... I hope it's like skyrim anniversary edition and we get to choose what ccc we can activate, don't want it automatically installed and active like the next gen free ccc that was added in.

[heavy kelp]

From what I gather from experience with Skyrim when they used the same language/wording they include every item in each mod/creation as separate creations kinda lame because the wording is skewed it makes it look like you’re getting more when most of it you already own. It might come across as badmouthing a bit but it would probably be helpful to know as a consumer to know what your getting a bit more clearly

[magic current]

i just hope we get way more mod space otherwise it will basically be a big load of nothin

[tough umbra]

Just blasted the hell out of acadia

😂

[charred bay]

Hoping for a cybernetic Creation

[rose pebble]

Fallout 4 is becoming nuclear winter skyrim.....

[copper bone]

winter is coming

[lilac saffron]

I hope for the sake of time worthiness they add a pump action shotgun in amongst the 150 creation club content we are getting

if they add pump action, non-autistic looking pistols and new (not reskinned new like the enclave update) power armour ill buy it

[marsh veldt]

I'd like to see that awesome Magnum from Fallout d20.
One does not simply to invent Wabbajack-like weapon and leave it "on the paper/blueprint"

[lilac saffron]

merunes dagon better be in the Creation Club content

oh mb forgot this was a fallout re-release not a skyrim re-release

[marsh veldt]

I'm ***, I prefer Saashi

[sleek drift]

Say, Thinking of getting the Anniversary edition upgrade when it releases. Would I have to start a new save for it?

[lilac saffron]

probraly

[marsh veldt]

One save BEFORE going into cryocapsule will be enough

Oh, and a save before dialogue with Vault-Tec Rep.

[swift orbit]

I’m so disappointed that you can’t nuke the girl that scams you In bunker hill (dont cancel me for this)

[sleek drift]

Oh, I was hoping to add them in mid-playthrough, doing a survival run on Steamdeck

[lilac saffron]

For the anniversary edition, can we please get an option to disable mouse acceleration and mouse smoothing and possibly improved mouse or sensitivity options. The mouse feels horrendous during gameplay

[runic brook]

Its pricing better be reasonable, and we should get a good discount if we bought either the base game or the goty already, so we should pay a reasonable price, it better be like $10 or smth.

I swear, they're gonna have it at like $80 because of the fact its also going to be released on the Switch 2 next year, it better be lower, or not buy it and just buy it a year later to have good discounts.

[barren niche]

Newbie question. I never actually played Fallout 4 (started a couple of times, played a bit and dropped). Decided to finally check it out.
Is it expected that you'll heavily increase your SPECIAL stats in the playthrough? I don't have enough stat points to take a half of things I want to take. If I plan to have the crafting skills and a bit of combat skills, then my Endurance and Charisma is in 1-2 range.

Is the game balance built in the way that you'll invest your level up points into the SPECIAL stats, and the perks available to you at the start are only "what you are starting with"?

[prisma aspen]

Man why can’t we get more storage space for mods 2 GB is very small

[magic current]

what do you lot think nates special stats would be when he comes out the vault?

[sleek cave]

I been thinking, I wonder if fallout 4 anniversary add on will be paid like Skyrim was? Considering I own game of the year edition already and all creations to 🙈

[livid crater]

Today I learned this game can't do dolby atmos.

On recording it all sounds hollow, although while playing it's fine.

[rose pebble]

I'd like to see them port / back port some content from 76 structures and utilities and with proximity factions especially responders they're Close enough we should see evidence of them

[scenic shoal]

Ngl we should have a fallout media channel

I've built a ton of fallout 4 settlements as well as other people it would be cool to show them here somewhere

[queen hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/request-denied-thumbs-down-joaquin-phoenix-gladiator-gif-12917210495678987869

[sweet marten]

If you want to be able to do everything, everywhere, all at once then yes. Note that there are bobbleheads in the world that can raise each SPECIAL point +1, one bobblehead per SPECIAL. There is also a baby book in the ruins of your home that adds +1 to one SPECIAL. Some people will look at the perks chart to plan out their needed SPECIAL points for the perks they want, and then set other SPECIAL points like Sttrength or Endurance really low (3) to get there sooner.

[barren niche]

No, I just wanted to be semi-competent with craft, shooting, and not put my foot in my mouth while talking. Thanks!

[sweet marten]

If you want to use VATS for fancy targeting, high PER and AGI are a must, but you can also add more points later. You will need the gunsmith, armorer and science perks if you want nice guns and fancy armor but I don't think INT needs to be that high for them. INT helps you level faster but that's all. I level lockpicking ASAP since I hate to leave loot behind.

[barren niche]

Got it, thanks for explaination. And how much Cha do I need if I want to not fail the normal dialogue checks?

[sweet marten]

You can still fail checks with CHA 10, you need to turn it up to 11 for guaranteed success. CHA 6 I think lets you do all the settlement stuff like setting up vendors so it's a decent number to shoot for. At the start, killing things is most important so PER = VATS hit chance and AGI = VATS action points comes first

[barren niche]

Got it, I was not speaking about guaranteed success, I was speaking more about not locking myself from interesting story opportunities.

So it's better to have low cha and high combat stats at first, and then raise Cha via perk points?

[sweet marten]

Yes, you'll probably miss one or two early dialog checks but stay alive 🙂 . Per 6 Agi 6 to start, str 3 end 3 also good enough for a gunslinger not a melee barbarian.

[barren niche]

got it, ty!

[sweet marten]

Also, if you thoroughly loot Sanctuary [ after leaving the vault ] before you leave town you should find enough junk to craft a scope for one of the crude guns you find, and maybe to add a long barrel to increase its range. Keep your guns semi-auto for now. VATS is great for short-to-medium range, for longer range you want to manually snipe with a scope.

[sweet marten]

Finally, pistols get weaker mid-to-late game so don't put perk points into pistols. For many pistols you can turn them into a rifle by changing the grip into a stock at the weapon workbench.

[sweet marten]

Found this on Steam: Charisma Speech check chance anything over 11 charisma everything is garunteed
Yellow Orange Red
1 5% 5% 5%
2 5% 5% 5%
3 10% 5% 5%
4 25% 10% 5%
5 40% 25% 10%
6 55% 40% 25%
7 70% 55% 40%
8 85% 70% 55%
9 100% 85% 70%
10 100% 100% 85%
11 100% 100% 100%

[barren niche]

Wow, thanks for so much info! =-)

[sweet marten]

You're welcome. I hope you have enough fun to keep playing this time.

[ember knot]

Does saves transfer between original fallout 4 and the anniversary edition?

[mossy mountain]

did we really need a anniversary edition you already stole my money with midfield lmao

[weak coyote]

You can put perk points into special as you level up, can raise each one to 10... It's a rpg, you build up your character, so yeah you start here, and can get there.

[weak coyote]

My guess is there will be the free update that changes the mod menu to how skyrim AE is... And have to buy the AE upgrade that gives you the ccc and dlcs if you don't own them.

[mossy mountain]

bro

[weak coyote]

screenshots-and-video

[mossy mountain]

just work on fallout 5 fss mane

I do not want to see another re release of fallout 4 and skyrim bro

[rare sand]

Why is prestonv garvey raging after i used a super sledge on vats also on trashcan carla

[sweet marten]

You're surprised Preston hates you attacking innocents? You need one of the evil companions or Dogmeat to do that.

[rare sand]

Ye…lol

Its fun using the pain train perk tho

[summer folio]

#screenshots-and-video

[atomic ginkgo]

I wonder if there's any chance of the pip boy app being brought back onto the app stores for Fallout 4's anniversary. I know you can grab the apk from an archive site anyway, but it'd be a nice gesture

[magic current]

XD my old phones still got that downloaded

[buoyant torrent]

I'm taking suggestions for the Modathon on NexusMods, here's my goal:
Target Date:
Vault-Tec Experiments (10 Nov - 16 Nov)
Think outside the box with experimental science, unusual mechanics or twisted Vault-Tec concepts.

Target Prize:
Vault-Tec Ingenuity Winner - Most inventive or weirdest creation
I'm thinking minigame, like my Fishin' or Darts mods...
Pings and DMs open

[weak coyote]

Let's see you make a Playstation exclusive mod that people say couldn't be done.

[buoyant torrent]

Better Destruction Through Science is my proof-of-concept for what I can do on PS4. I don't have a console to test mods, though.

[chilly hemlock]

Will the game be "fixed" for a second time after the next gen update

Or am I gonna have to let it marinate for another year

Honestly feel robbed I bought it got excited it would be fixed with the next gen update then it became completely unplayable

[mossy mountain]

@chilly hemlock your mods will break

and yes Boston will still crash if ur not on a good pc or ps5 or series X

and thats without mods

[chilly hemlock]

I'm playing vanilla on series s

I only got mods that make my game ass like disabling godrays and stuff like that

[mossy mountain]

and yes modding players will have to deal with the load order randomizing every single time you install a mod and restart the game while appearing online

[chilly hemlock]

People should create a mod that gives fo4 NV graphics

Then it would become playable

[marsh veldt]

Yellow filter, seriously?

[chilly hemlock]

Nah potato fidelity

[marsh veldt]

Big step aside, but not forward.

[summer hollow]

May I know if the "Creation Club" option not showing issue been resolved? I still cannot find this option after loadind the game and I have lost all my paid items.

[buoyant torrent]

Umm, ackshually... technically, it's a sepia filter...

🤓

[weak coyote]

Never experienced this.

[small iron]

To be fair, almost every FO4 companion hates you for killing innocents.

[sweet marten]

I haven't tested it, but the wiki says Strong doesn't mind. Grab him and start a murder spree.

[potent perch]

Same For Me Friend I Avoided Playing It For Months Because Of The Issues Now I Am Waiting For AE To Finally Fix What The Devs Broke With The Latest Update

[verbal lake]

A question, if anyone knows, is the mod "Personal Craftable Vertibird" still supported?

[pine gazelle]

How many vertibirds are out there?

[marsh veldt]

What about Gage?

[potent perch]

Anyone know how much AE will cost for Fallout 4 how much was the Skyrim AE in £ I cant remember? I want to think £20 but not sure

[worldly snow]

20$

[potent perch]

Yea that’s what thought it would be around that

[potent perch]

Should think we would get this for Fallout 4 AE also

[potent perch]

Devs If U Are Listening, My Second Rant I Apologies But This Is For Good Intentions Because I Care About Fallout 4 And Want A Fully Polished Bug Fixed Product Please Please Fix Fallout 4 On Ps5 Pro / Ps5 Please Please Devs I Beg Of You.

Many Thanks In Advance

Fallout 4 Is Truly Unique And I Just Want It To Be Fixed As Much As Possible Please

[worldly snow]

AE is very likely going to allow for modders to bypass the ck and port over external assets just like Skyrim so just wait for that'

[potent perch]

Nah I want Bug Fixes From Devs Not Community Fixing What Should Be Fixed By Devs

[potent perch]

This wasn’t in the small print when getting hooked into Fallout 4 LOL

[proven elm]

You'll have better success asking in #fallout-4-mods or #1067505929534320700

[amber beacon]

please don't update Fo4 and mess up mods...if it isn't broke doesn't mean break it so others can fix it 🙂

[potent perch]

Exsactly

[potent perch]

Still needs updating to Fix The Occurring Issues Though

[lime timber]

No I want my creations

[potent perch]

Same LOL

[compact stream]

I fricking love fallout

[potent perch]

I do if it wasn’t soo Buggy 😭😥

[torpid galleon]

Updating will only break anything depending on F4SE. Plugins will be fine.

[feral wigeon]

If only people would realize that

[torpid galleon]

I mean, I could argue that if certain files are updated for the steam release, certain mods will break in a sense.

But that only applies to Far Harbor related cells.

The breakage is easily fixed with some xEdit scripting, though per plugin

[timid oar]

Just picked up a two shot pipe rifle. Am I better off doing auto or upgrading it to .45?? I’m doing a stealth sniper build.

[mystic lion]

Two shot is pretty wretched for full automatic in my experience unless you go heavy on VATS, you'll end up pointing at the ceiling before long.

[rain solstice]

its all about control, I learned to control recoil playing Counterstrike/Source, its surprising how good those guns are when you get the hang of the mechanic.

[weak coyote]

Never going to be polished by them.

[mossy mountain]

of course you haven't we dont have creations yet

it happens all the time in skyrim and starfield btw

you literally have hard rest and organized the load order offline

like im not talking about master files btw

[weak coyote]

Never experienced it on skyrim

[mossy mountain]

I have multiple times

and so have many on reddit and in unofficial servers

literally worked fine before they added creations in starfield

[weak coyote]

That would be awful, hard enough arranging the mod list the first time you finally get it right and everything working correctly.

[mossy mountain]

also think the devs are somehow gonna make Boston perform even worse

[weak coyote]

Why

[mossy mountain]

im asking if u think

[mossy mountain]

yup doing all that just to wake up to it either disabling half ur mods or randomizing the load order

just because you downloaded a single mod

also if they could fix ghost space a problem that effects skyrim fallout 4 and starfield thatd be great

[weak coyote]

Idk, I don't really have many issues anymore on next gen version... Ps4 version performance was terrible, on PS5, rarely have any issues outside of occasional crashes and bugginess from extended play.
Some frame drops but doesn't slow to a crawl like it did previous generation.

99 mods installed, 98 always active.

[compact stream]

I just had the most hilarious glitch ever

I was on the roof of Abernathy farm and then I got sent flying

I went so fast my game had to catch 🆙

[mossy mountain]

yup xbox 1 was so bad bro

[weak coyote]

Like this?
https://youtu.be/jCPMUo5Nr7k?si=ZZeHko9KQPhsKCq9

[pine gazelle]

Does fallout 4 have online mode

[compact stream]

Yes

Wait I don’t mean fallout 4 it doesn’t

[sweet marten]

Yes, it's called "Fallout 76" and is pretty fun for awhile. The microtransactions can be skipped, there's no PVP now, and the single-player content can be done solo while you ignore the other people on the world map.

[small iron]

Really just him and X6-88

[knotty granite]

Any idea if those who already own g.o.t.y edition will get a discount on the anniversary edition?

[feral wigeon]

I think it's going to be like Skyrim's AE was, so there will be a full Anniversary Edition for new owners and an upgrade for current ones

So the upgrade will be a "discounted" option

Most likely 20$, like Skyrim's Anniversary Upgrade

[median nacelle]

I wonder if I will be able to purchase the previously unreleased content separately as I already own all the current Creation Club items?

[lilac saffron]

My take on it is perhaps it’s not previously unreleased Creation Club content and maybe actual cut content from Bethesda.

[lilac saffron]

But most likely and I think Creation Club and community mods are merging into the Starfield Creation system

[median nacelle]

@lilac saffron Thanks for the reply. I love the game so much Ill get the content one way or another. Was hoping to find a slick route to it.

[lilac saffron]

Yeah same I love the game a tons aswell, seems cheap the route bethesda went but I’ll probably buy it aswell i do hope it comes free for goty owners tho

[pine gazelle]

Imagine if there was a fallout battle royale

[strong island]

hellooo

somebody here??

[elder iron]

#fallout-announcements message why are people so upset about this?...

Just wondering not disagreeing idk anything about it/context

[feral wigeon]

Because new update will break "all" mods

[elder iron]

Oh so it just straight up breaks all created mods? Damn pretty unthoughtful

[feral wigeon]

Only F4SE will be affected, and it's not even available on consoles

Mods that don't need F4SE to work will still just work

[chilly hemlock]

Will vanilla saves be broken after the update it happened to me after the next gen update

I assume the same thing is gonna happen

[austere barn]

FALLOUT 4 VR player here
Any mods to remove granny haze when in low light?

[weak coyote]

No no no no no way... Battle Royale stinks.

[lilac saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-no-no-no-tanklorde-gif-13191678230910881285

[sweet marten]

Fallout 76 did it years ago. Then they removed it because it wasn't as fun as they thought.

[lilac saffron]

I didn’t know that well you learn something new everyday

It clearly didn’t improve the game tho

[sweet marten]

It was kind of fun but it very heavily favored the people who memorized the maps and the gun spawn points. The filthy casuals like me were lambs to the slaughter. Also like all PVP there were cheaters.

[lilac saffron]

It’s like how im yet to join the thing that lets you go on expeditions

Cant be bothered im already a unicef firefighter with a tommygun

[sweet marten]

I did some of the early ones solo -- slow but a fun change of pace. Some of them can only be completed with multiple players, and my weak sense of direction would have me falling behind the rest and wandering in circles 😄

[lilac saffron]

Cant be assed to do more for knockoff minutmen

[lilac saffron]

Maybe I’ll try joint others

[sweet marten]

I also have to be in the mood for a 20 minute task instead of playing for as long as I want then stopping.

[marsh veldt]

Imagine if there was Fallout Musou

[heavy kelp]

Bait used to be believable

[craggy stone]

I pray the Anniversary update fixes the FaceGen bugs and increases mod space if not then that is criminal!

[heavy kelp]

I just hope they make the game stable

The next gen update made the stability quite terrible and there was never a fix for it on console

[pine gazelle]

Wdym

[limpid pulsar]

I have a feeling the upgrade will cost either an upgrade price or a new game price. I agree that all Bethesda supported versions will be impacted. Older consoles, without the computing resources to handle the upscaled graphics, probably will not see an improvement. I'm quite certain some mods will break.

Here's the biggest piece. Both Skyrim and Fallout 4 have survived this long because of mods. Bethesda, benefitted from it. I don't blame them for wanting a piece of the action. I can fault them for carelessly capitalizing on the success others created for them.

[heavy kelp]

Wait you were serious

[heavy kelp]

If the upgrade is over $20 i don’t think many will buy it

[craggy stone]

I don't want much... just for facegen stutter to be fixed and a mod storage increase so I can enjoy ALL my armor/weapon/radio/interior poi mods at once

[limpid pulsar]

How funny. That's exactly how much I think they'll charge.

[craggy stone]

The fact that I can't enjoy Subway Runner Redux with Atlas Summit is ridiculous!

Or Lima Detachment with Subway Runner

Don't even get me started on trying to balance the OWR Boston mods with guns and armors!

[pine gazelle]

Yep

[craggy stone]

Sgt. Arch Dornan wants to have a word with you...

[vast schooner]

I started a new game today on this epic game, been a while since I played it

I don’t remember the loading time to be this long 😂

[craggy stone]

Welcome to hell! 😂

[valid arrow]

It's a test of patience

[craggy stone]

That is an understatement

Ngl I feel FallOut 5 dropping next year "iykyk"

[valid arrow]

Atleast you're able to move around the item being displayed on the loading screen as compared to other games.

[craggy stone]

Damn! We got FallOut 5 before GTA 6...

[valid arrow]

In class rn but I got Fallout Shelter running while I listen.

[craggy stone]

😂

[vast schooner]

Nothing to move for me

Also I found a glitch, someone said alt tab out and back again, this makes loading go away instantly

Only works for fullscreen though, and there is also a mod for it

Does the mod turn off achievements? I’m on steam

[craggy stone]

ALL mods turn off achievements

Just use SAM and whenever you feel you earned an achievement you should have go and activate said achievement. Steam doesn't seem to care as achievements are just little badges on your profile...

[feral wigeon]

Or use a mod to reenable achievements xD

[pine gazelle]

Wheres him tho

[lilac saffron]

Hello guy's quick question, i've fallout 4 since day one on steam and i've heard that there will be a new edition for november, but will we need to buy another game or will there be just an upgrade for the people who have FO4 already ?

[weak coyote]

Yeah the ruined car on some ruined chunk of road is the best idea ever.

[weak coyote]

Most likely like Skyrim Anniversary Edition.

[lilac saffron]

Well i guess i couldn't keep my save with all my settlement disappointing :ç

[craggy stone]

Either or

[fallen fable]

Nothing happened to my Steam saves in either game, previously. I continued an old one before starting a new playthrough, In both games, they were exactly as I left them but with a ton of new missions and locations pop up.

[weak coyote]

I was able to use my saves after upgrading to AE.

[fallen fable]

In general, having just purchased all the official content at about 50% off for FO4 and Skyrim, anything less than 50% off seems like a decent deal for all the new stuff, but it does affect playthroughs being different.

[kind gorge]

about to play go to far harbor for the first time

[austere barn]

So glad I made the investment into the VR side of fallout 4

No creation club content shoved at me. Just straight up game in VR

[timid oar]

How is the damage calculated for two shot weapons? I’m so confused on how this works. If my base damage is 41 and max damage with mods is 56, what would my damage per shot be?

[vagrant dust]

Absolutely, you nailed it. Mods have kept those games alive for years, and it’s kind of frustrating to see Bethesda turning that community passion into a cash grab. Hopefully they handle it better this time.

[craggy stone]

You can't be serious... this is Bethesda we are talking about... the "Next-Gen" update was anything but! And let's not forget they caused more harm than good...

[vagrant dust]

100%. They called it “Next-Gen,” but it felt more like “Next-Bug.” Mods breaking, performance drops, and barely noticeable upgrades… definitely not Bethesda’s finest moment.

[craggy stone]

Ahhhhhh Bethesda a company that made an +18 but we can't say no, no, words to be descriptive... truly this world is cooked

[jolly wigeon]

It's called #rules, and you agreed to them when joining.

[craggy stone]

Anywho they made zero mention on a mod space upgrade for console users and zero mention of any bug fixes.

[craggy stone]

Yeah I agreed to not be inappropriate aka NSFW "forbidden topics" but the fact we can't swear is kinda ridiculous...

[jolly wigeon]

Again, it's literally in the #rules YOU agreed to.

[craggy stone]

Rule 1 pertaining abusive language DOES NOT mention not being able to swear. It does say and I quote "Abusive language and disruptive behavior will not be tolerated. This includes comments directed at ZeniMax/Bethesda employees, mods, your fellow community members, or other groups or companies.
Abusive language includes slurs or discriminating speech in all forms, including but not limited to religion, creed, national origin, gender, age, or lifestyle.

Refrain from using any LGBTQIA+ words in a derogatory manner.

Refrain from using any words on the mental health spectrum in a derogatory manner." End qoute...

[jolly wigeon]

Also in the #rules :
Cursing and Profanity
Purposefully circumventing our profanity filter or otherwise cursing or using profanity is not permitted.

[craggy stone]

What the heck? Anywho I must be blind... sheesh I feel like I am in Sunday School 🤣

[jolly wigeon]

Now let's get back to discussing Fallout 4 as that is what this channel is for.

[craggy stone]

Ngl kinda wishing Mentats were real I lwky want the party time flavor

No one has disclosed what do they taste like minus the obvious flavors

[craggy stone]

Wait do you work at Bethesda and could you give us an insight to the Anniversary edition?

Simply do we get a mod space increase and bug fixes or no?

That's like the ONLY thing I seek answers on...

[jolly wigeon]

You can find information about the Anniversary Edition here: https://fallout.bethesda.net/en/games/fallout-4

[craggy stone]

Well it didn't really help

It would be better to have an insider let us know... If only Todd Howard was in this server...

[jolly wigeon]

Any and all information made public can be found at the provided link. Any claims to state otherwise from a non-official Bethesda source should be taken with caution.

[craggy stone]

Dang... I'm surprised they didn't release more info besides "6 expansions, creations, and 150 creation club content" like you would think bug fixes and mod space increase would be a MAJOR thing to brag about.

To quote Todd Howard "It just works!"

[timid oar]

How is the damage calculated for two shot weapons? I’m so confused on how this works. If my base damage is 41 and max damage with mods is 56, what would my damage per shot be?

[vague basin]

They have never mentioned any of these things in past updates either. Why would this one be any different?

[weak coyote]

Yeah they don't evolve or communicate, not likely to change.

[weak coyote]

The damage done by the weapon is not simply the base damage doubled. Instead the calculation is as follows:

The game combines the weapon's current damage with all mods applied, then adds its base damage.
The resulting value is then split evenly between two projectiles fired by the weapon.
However, only the combined damage is used to calculate the effective damage versus target armor.

[wintry nimbus]

hey guys, are we going to get a patch fix with the anniversary edition ?

your pov

[austere barn]

Do not touch the VR versions!

They have remained unmolested so far.

[craggy stone]

Fair point

[craggy stone]

We don't know... they continue to be cryptic and refuse to properly communicate and share with us the full details.

[magic current]

Yeah its really annoying that they are cagey about details like how much mod space there will be

[sleek cave]

I also hope with anniversary edition Bethesda will upgrade or integrate the creation stuff into the world better, rather than leave the vault then boom all creation quests. Kinda like Skyrim I guess 🤞

https://tenor.com/view/fallout4-power-armor-video-game-looking-gif-17919040

[feral wigeon]

There's no reason for them to not do that

[fossil shoal]

have we figured out where i can actually get it for the switch 2 yet 👀

[weak coyote]

Probably digitally

[fallen fable]

I would prepare myself for some pretty high level chaos right off the bat. And though you could try and avoid Far Harbor and Nuka World, there's good chances that won't work.

[weak coyote]

Expect it to be like the free ccc added with next gen update, as soon as you leave the vault your quest log will be bombarded immediately with ccc quests.

[kind gorge]

Anyone been having issues loading into the game, like i press continue, or load, it will start the loading screen then crash

[craggy stone]

It's unnecessary especially because the game is 10 years old... I understand being cagey about upcoming and NEW titles ES6/FO5 but to be this secretive on a 10 year old re-release is ridiculous!

Like all we want is simple information "do we get a mod space increase Y/N? Will all the bugs that the "next-gen" update be ironed out and will any bugs that this re-release causes be stomped out Y/N?" It's not like we are asking "spoil the ending of ES6 and FO5 for us" we just want information on this re-release before we buy it...

Bugs and Glitches that remain unfixed "face-gen bug" are a game breaking nuisance that causes nothing but frustration and makes the games fun dwindle due to being constrained by the shoddy patchwork on the creation engine... "as much as I love the Creation Engine due to it's easy to use mod making tools and such it's sadly standing on one leg and being propped up by a scrap splint held together with glue and duct tape."

[fallen fable]

My game's current save works perfect, but for frenzying Raider gangs breaks it. It took a long time to clear Raider settlements, basically going 1 or a few dispatched at a time, and reloading the game. I had tried reverting saves already. I left a Sentinel at the last settlement, because so far, any attack frenzies the several remaining. Other than that it seems the game goes on fine separately.

[round echo]

is it bad to play the game now and then buy the anniversary edition upgrade mid game? or should i start a fresh save when it comes out

[fallen fable]

I can probably only say that vanilla, on PC, should be fine to play now and hopefully a pretty seamless update. I don't want to speak for anything else. Also depends on playstyle, you could wait for Nuka world and become a raider leader first. There are almost too many ways to play it now.

[fallen fable]

I'd consider getting to level 15-20 doing side quests and exploring, and then the chaos of the update is a bit more manageable.

[hollow abyss]

Question about fallout 4 creations. Are these creations going to be handpicked creations from the mods catagory and also "Achievements are off unless you like" what does that mean?

[buoyant torrent]

I just want pricing information on the AE. Have Bethesda said anything about that? My only question is: Will it be discounted or free for Season Pass holders, particularly since I pre-ordered the game sight-unseen for $100, which was and remains a non-insignificant portion of my monthly budget. I've given a lot to this community. That's not a brag, that's a fact verfiable in my NexusMods profile. I have more original, non-ported mods published for this game than anyone except Zorkaz.

[craggy stone]

Achievements are disabled while using mods UNLESS you buy the Achievement friendly version of the mods you use.

[buoyant torrent]

Skyrim LE was free for Special Edition holders, so I hope the pattern holds.

[craggy stone]

Same but Bethesda has been keeping their mouths zipped tightly on the features of this AE as well as the price

[buoyant torrent]

As is there prerogative, they have to make money, it's kind of a requirement.

[craggy stone]

I feel if they would be more open with us consumers then they would make money

[buoyant torrent]

I don't mean "it's necessary to make more cool games" I mean they legally have to make money, as a publicly-traded company, under US Fiduciary Law.

Otherwise, the shareholders can dissolve the company against its wishes.

[craggy stone]

I miss the days when game development was about passion and not trying to please shareholders...

[buoyant torrent]

It's always been about both. Hollow Knight proved that.

[craggy stone]

Do any of y'all remember Ubisoft Reflections?

[buoyant torrent]

Team Cherry is not a public company, so they can make what they want and sell it for cheap if they want.

[craggy stone]

I guess ngl though it's not funny seeing Indie devs drop from the top ropes on AAA studios

[buoyant torrent]

Fallout 4 could not have been made by an Indie dev. It cost millions of dollars and required hundreds of people.

The passion is still there, friend, it's just democratized by the shareholders. And shareholders primary motivation is either wealth or not starving to death when they retire.

I'm not defending capitalism, I'm just saying it gives us the best AAA games, because it's the only system that can.

[craggy stone]

Idk... modern gaming has become too corpo focused less consumer focused they say "we need to appease our masters and make bank" where as before "we wanna make money and deliver a product worthy of being shipped to those who buy it"

Remember Obsidian how they took FO3 and dropped it on it's head with FNV

[buoyant torrent]

You're ignoring the contributions of Team Cherry and CoffeeStain?

[craggy stone]

No! But I see them as Indie devs

I don't think they are AAA studios like Zenimax, Activision, EA, and Warner Bros

[buoyant torrent]

Well, it's a holistic system. The Indie devs prove you can make money on "little" games, so the big studios have to listen.

[craggy stone]

Hell right now I am playing Jump Space

An Indie project and I play the Outlast Trials every now and then another indie game since Red Barrels only ever focused on Outlast

All I pray is that Bethesda doesn't Gonk us with this AE edition of FO4

[vague basin]

Indie devs will only get you so far in this industry. Large sprawling persistent worlds like we have with BGS games just aren't in the cards for small indie teams.

[craggy stone]

Valheim comes to mind...

[buoyant torrent]

Arthmoor! The prophet has arrived!

[craggy stone]

Ngl I do like the Boomer Shooters/Rogue like games that many Indie devs make

[vague basin]

Coffee Stain isn't a smal studio and hasn't been for awhile. So Valheim isn't really what I'd be thinking of here.

[craggy stone]

Hell even the turn based RPG's like Baldurs Gate and Disco Elysium

[buoyant torrent]

Dr. Mobius: what's the best competitive FPS on the market for PC? What's your favorite?

[craggy stone]

I don't have a PC anymore but a game I have been hella into has been THE FINALS

[buoyant torrent]

Fine, what's the best COD clone you like?

[craggy stone]

Oooooooo ngl that's a tough one I don't play cod clones anymore lol

[buoyant torrent]

My favorite is Team Fortress 2. A player-made mod that got adopted by Valve to be profit-driven, and is still a great game.

[craggy stone]

I used to LOVE TF2

[buoyant torrent]

TF2 started as a Half-Life mod, like Counter-Strike.

And Garry's Mod, which has always been free, and is AWESOME.

[craggy stone]

I think when I got my laptop and made a steam account I was forced to spend money to be able to buy games and I spent like $800 on TF2

[buoyant torrent]

If you dropped $800 on TF2 in-game merch, you have no grounds to complain about profit-driven AAA games.

[craggy stone]

This was like 12 years ago

[buoyant torrent]

TF2 is a free game on Steam, you don't even need to own Half-Life anymore.

[craggy stone]

And I was lik 13 at the time lol

[buoyant torrent]

Ah, so your parents just let you drop $800 on a game, or you didn't know what you were actually spending?

[craggy stone]

Yeah pretty much because steam didn't let me purchase games upon opening my first account for the first time

[buoyant torrent]

I think you might need to check your privilege, friend. 😋

[craggy stone]

Btw if anything is INSANE it's my spending on Warthunder

[craggy stone]

I don't have that privilege anymore 🤣. I live in an active hot zone irl and have a kid on the way...

[buoyant torrent]

Welcome to the real world.

[craggy stone]

But I want you to guess my spending on warthunder

[buoyant torrent]

Not interested

It doesn't matter to me what you do with your own money.

[craggy stone]

Fair point

Most of my friends roast me for it... but I tell them "I worked for it so I did what I pleased"

[buoyant torrent]

Roasting is fine, and I would have done it if I were your friend at the time. You earned the money, and they don't agree with how you spend it, but they are your friends, and don't want to actually hurt you, so they tease.

[craggy stone]

Fair point 🤣

[buoyant torrent]

I'm pretty good at "fair points"

I'm not interested in another drag-out fight with another person I don't know. I've had enough of those.

Now, I just get muted on one server for calling a guy out for being an insufferable jerk, and get terrified by @vague basin when I talk bad about his mods in this server. (I didn't know he was even still around, let alone still on this server.)

I also prefer the loadscreens to the vastly more popular open-cities model Arth made famous. I told him I thought his mods were game design and not game modding, and he corrected me rationally. We're good now (I hope).

[thorn summit]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-popcorn-binoculars-stalk-bird-watching-gif-5418025

[buoyant torrent]

The Gods Are Watching.

[craggy stone]

Hey I'm a good man with my positives and negatives lol

[buoyant torrent]

We're not talking about F4, we're talking about gaming ethos...

[craggy stone]

Lwky patrolling the Levant makes you wish for a Nuclear Winter lol

[craggy stone]

Here this injected some FO into the chat

Do you think I should start diggin myself a hole "a reference to a FO song on Diamond city radio" ome that I can duck and cover into "another reference"

[buoyant torrent]

I want to see what the NexusMods Fallout Modathon produces. I'm hoping Arthmoor makes an appearance. 🙂

[craggy stone]

Arthmoors Unofficial patches ALWAYS end up in my games

[vague basin]

lol, yes, we're good. We were never on bad terms. Not everyone likes everything people make. So long as that dislike doesn't take the form of reddit tactics it's all good.

[buoyant torrent]

🫡

My arguments are always rational.

[craggy stone]

Bethesda should hire you to stomp out all the bugs in their games ngl

[vague basin]

The USSEP is there for the taking if they want it 😛
(and UFO4P too since this is the Fallout channel)

[buoyant torrent]

They have bugcheckers, USSEP is a massive collaboration that Arth finalized and published, based on thousands of complaints about the game.

[craggy stone]

Btw I love all your extra town additions to Skyrim

[thorn summit]

Nah I have been reading, nothing wrong with the conversation

[buoyant torrent]

Someone had to take all the bug reports and complaints, filter out the useless stuff, and synthesize an unofficial patch. That someone is Arthmoor.

[vague basin]

Not just me though. It's always been a team effort.

[craggy stone]

Roger Dodger Cthulu uh oh... I spoke the unspeakable name now the dunwich borers cave is about to open

Lwky I hope FO5 has a more occult feel to it like imagine FO Louisiana...

Blood on the Bayou

[buoyant torrent]

True, but your name's on it. You got the surface level credit. Which is probably why I had my initial reaction to your mods, I didn't like them just because they were popular and disagreed with my ethos. I've evolved.

I don't like Flashy(JoeR)'s mods similar reasons. He took his best stuff off the Nexus and went to the unmentionable side of modding because he misunderstood the agreement we modders have with NexusMods, and something I've known since the days of Total Annihilation: Your mods don't belong to you. Every mod has a copyright stamp on it that says (c) Zenimax.

Bethesda and Valve are the best because they understand this relationship fuels sales of their single-player games. All the Creations controversy and Nexus Collections controversy is pure noise.

[vague basin]

Not to get into the weeds on copyright, but for BGS games your mods are actually your own work, as specified in the CK EULA. Clause 2, Section A. (yes, this comes up often enough to rememeber this by heart)

[craggy stone]

Idk about the nexus nonsense all I know is I want a mod space increase and for the face gen bug to be fixed and I'll gladly go sit on a horse and disappear for the next 8 years

[vague basin]

I'm pretty sure the facegen fix is #1 on everyone's radar.

[buoyant torrent]

Yeah, I know its different now than in the TA days, but the modding tools were published by the company (same as Unreal). They still technically can claim ownership of your mods if they want to, legally speaking.

[craggy stone]

Good then let's pray for more mod space on console. I'm dying to run all the OWR Boston mods and POI mods with all the capital wasteland armors and Common Wealth weaponry team mods

Especially with your mod the USSEP to crown my LO

[buoyant torrent]

Once I publish a mod, it's not mine. Someone else has taken my highest-download mods and fixed them, because they have more technical know-how, more time, or just more drive than I do. Commonwealth Cleanup has a mod version on the Nexus I didn't know about because I'm not actively modding right now. Someone took my 500,000 removable objects and generated entirely new previs and precombines for it.

[vague basin]

The way the clause is worded, no, they can't just claim ownership. But they are able to use your work if they want to without compensating you for it. I'm pretty sure the clause exists to proetect them against using your ideas and/or specific methods of implementing those ideas.

[buoyant torrent]

Ah, okay, it's evolved more than I thought. Any ideas you create can be taken by them without compensation. In the TA days, they legally belonged to Cavedog because that clause didn't exist.

[vague basin]

As far as Nexus, no, they don't gain ownership of it just because you upload it. Publication does not mean forfeiting ownership.

Cavedog might have had different licensing terms for modding their games. It all depends on the agreements in place.

[buoyant torrent]

Chris Taylor basically helped invent modern modding. Quake and Doom were built to be moddable, but TA was built for efficiency, using a 2D map and heightmap to simulate terrain, text-based unit files, simple animation scripting. It all added up to a revolutionary RTS that we modders had to make our own modding tools for. The only thing Cavedog published was a map editor.

He just thought he could do it again, and Supreme Commander was the result: a fun game, but not considered a mainstay of competitive RTS like MOBAs and Starcraft.

[hollow abyss]

ohhh okay

[buoyant torrent]

Hardcore RTS gamers still play TA, it even has its own third-party lobby/matchmaking app called TA:Forever.

I'm actually working part-time on a TA conversion that uses the engine and resource models of the original and makes it a modern RTS, rather than the Planet Annihilation/Beyond All Reason models of making a new game.

Like Skyrim, you don't mess with perfection.

I'm hoping Fallout 5 is the Skyrim of the series, because Fallout 4 wasn't. NV is an outlier, made by a different company on the Creation Engine and using Fallout lore.

I'm fading back into the shadows now...

[hollow abyss]

So will creations apply to OG fallout 4 or the anniversary edition?

[vague basin]

If it's like how they did Skyrim, the game update itself will have them and the AE stuff will be a separate DLC pack.

[crisp shoal]

My question is this. Can we upgrade fallout 4 if we already own it OR is it a standalone version/edition of the game? (Anniversary edition)

[vague basin]

With Skyrim that's how it worked. If you owned the game, you got the base upgrade for it which also included 4 of the DLCs that were previously part of Creation Club.
Then the AE package was a separate DLC for the other 70 CC items.

[crisp shoal]

Ahh gotcha

[buoyant torrent]

I already hardly use the Creation Club mods I got for free. I've never seen a Tesla Cannon in game.

[pine gazelle]

Btw there are people who want to romance a Synth

[buoyant torrent]

What? Curie's cute as hell! Who cares her naivete makes her childlike! God, that romance quest is creepy...

[sweet marten]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-date-robots-monrobot-futurama-gif-14829455

[sweet marten]

Curie's 200+ years old, smarter than the MC, has extensive pre-war knowledge. She's only naïve about the wasteland. It's not any more creepy than romancing Caprica Six.

[buoyant torrent]

She's infantile in her behavior, smarts and age aside. It's creepy to me, and if it's not to you, that's fine. Maybe I'm tired of being accused of such things because of my identity, and only think this kind of character encourages the kind of sick weirdos that I'm lumped in with.

[compact brook]

Curie passes the Harkness test but it still feels weird due to how uncanny valley her synth form is. She’s mostly indistinguishable from a human, but clearly has a non-human intelligence.

If she were a hot alien babe from another planet, that kind of behavior would be endearing.

But since she was uploaded into a regular adult human, synth Curie doesn’t act how we expect a regular adult human to act.

It causes dissonance in how I should perceive her romantically

[pine gazelle]

So yes or no

[compact brook]

Depends on which Sole Survivor I’m playing. Some of them would be down, others would be disgusted.

Ironically my BoS character would be the most down since he’s just as inexperienced at relationships and the outside world as she is.

But my 45 yo Minuteman character who’s been divorced three times (not including Nora) and has 2 kids (excluding Sean) would find it super weird

[compact brook]

My raider girlboss character would have an extremely toxic relationship with all her companions

[swift orbit]

Chat Ima stop playing fallout 4

I’m gonna move to fallout shel-

[sullen prairie]

Remember this comment. Bethesda will completely break fallout 4 after they release the anniversary update. Remember when they made it worse after the next gen update? This November update will be the nail in the coffin. 🫡

[warm moon]

https://tenor.com/view/enclave-fallout-gif-2401482434274418358

[marsh veldt]

Bethesda: launching new game
Fans: Ooo, look at dis bugs, Bethesda never changes, etc.
Modders: don't worry, we'll fix

Betheshda: making patch
Everyone: Don't you dare!

You've listened to the short radio drama "Double Standards."

[orchid quiver]

Can anyone tell me why fallout 4 settlement building with no mods is complicated

[sleek cave]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-welcome-home-dog-meat-power-armor-dog-gif-4727843

[sullen prairie]

Todd Howard: "That's a feature."

[sweet marten]

No, because the last FO4 patch didn't fix things, it broke them. Mod = fix, BGS = break. See the difference?

With Starfield all the post-release pattches DID fix things, and the response from people still playing was "yay! thanks" so still no double standard. Patch that works = players happy, patch that just breaks things = players not happy.

[weak coyote]

How so?

[glass haven]

Hi everyone. I have fallout 4 and all the expansions and was interested in the 10 year anniversary version but had a few questions first. I game on pc and was wondering if there will be an “upgrade” option and will there be a fix for over 60 fps? I usually get around 100-120 fps but there are bugs we all know about. I could just get a mod but I’m doing a run through of it with no mods (just want some achievements first run on pc) first.

[hollow abyss]

U know i can't play 76 right now, i broke my controller during an argument with my brother and now i ordered a new one. and it's a better one. a Hyperkin Duchess controller

a nostalgic one at that.

[viral cradle]

I have a problem when i try to finish mission in Fallout 4 where we explode the institute with the brotherhood of steel after the explosion the cutsnece dosen't start but just white scrine appears. What to do to fix this and finally finish the game

[craggy stone]

I got a Victrix Pro BFG controller coming in that let's you swap the left side joystick down to a PS position and comes with a fight pad for the right side

Also gots hall effect modules lwky one of my favorite controllers! The real kicker is going to be saving up $454 for a headset because we don't got Amazon where I live

[craggy stone]

None of us know... they keep being secretive about the whole thing

[hollow abyss]

oh but the Hyperkin Duchess is different, it looks like a Nostalgic original Xbox controller but compatable for Xbox One, X/S and even Windows 10 and it has a lot of features that make any game a Best experience like buttons that simulate lb and rb, Half Effect joy sticks so you can get percision without it drifting, and it has Dynamic Impulse triggers

[craggy stone]

Same with the victrix minus the "classic" look

Most aftermarket controllers offer those features you mentioned ngl I do like the classic design as it takes me back to my past blasting milbots in Metal Arms glitch in the system, and destroying humans in Destroy All Humans

Imagine if Fallout was on the og xbox...

Don't mention Brotherhood of steel!

[sleek cave]

Deleted mods Xbox series X made new character waiting for update and PS5 still have a character there too John enclave 😉 💪

https://tenor.com/view/fall-out-pip-boy-pipboy-gif-22701082

[fallen fable]

Weird glitch? I took every looted weapon from the workshop to sort out, then I noticed the Nuka World automatic rifles had Fire rates from 374-450. They checked out when I tested a few. Empty a drum mag in 5 seconds or so. They were perfect and recoilless almost.

I tried to mod a few, then the fire rate went back to around 113 immediately. And they tested slower, but only by about a half, not including loading animation. I still had hundreds of handmade and NW gang rifles in my inventory with the high stats. I did a couple different saves, left, came back, but all the fire rate stats went back to normal. Some fun, but a time waster. Now I want those fire rates back, I almost might trade in the Two Shot for a regular automatic, and 58 damage too with the Pack automatic at 450, it was wild. I thought it might have been a perk added to them.

[orchid quiver]

Sanctuary Hills I was trying to build in that open space next to the yellow power armor house and the walls and floors did not cooperate how I wanted it

[fallen fable]

Is there a fire rate bonus if you apply orange halloween paint and bats on a few things? That'd be the only recent game change.

[weak coyote]

Idk what this means...
More detail maybe we can give you tips.

[frosty violet]

Is preston garvey inevitable?
I just started fallout 4 exitted vault

[craggy stone]

Pray the bugs from the last update are fixed then we shall be at peace for years to come

[craggy stone]

You can leave him stuck in the Museum if you please

The only thing is you won't get access to the Artillery unless you have a mod installed

[craggy stone]

Imagine if Bethesda took weapons, armor, and hell even the maps themselves from FO76 and let us buy the content in Fallout4 ngl I would...

And I would literally drop $60 if they made FallOut76 a DLC for Fallout4 with the only difference being no online play "since it's still Fallout4" but my point is all those beautiful guns the 10mm smg, the MG34, the .50 cal HMG, and such are all in a game I can't bring myself to play because the Fallout 1st subscription needed to play a sandbox solo mode is not justified and the fact we can't mod a "FallOut" game is considered Taboo

But genuinely I would pay good money for all the 76 stuff to be ported backwards to 4 and if there is any Bethesda people in the chat I would literally buy it as a DLC idc $60 or $70 for a whole new map, new guns, and new armors for a game I can mod I will buy it!

[sleek cave]

[frosty violet]

How do i even progress with story then?
Also i forgot disable my caps oof

[viral cradle]

So does anyone know how to fix this?

[craggy stone]

Skip over him and ignore that mission entirely just go to Diamond City save nick search for Kellogg, kill Kellogg, let the Brotherhood show up and such

[frosty violet]

K ty chad mobius unlike virgin think tank

[craggy stone]

You might have a mod conflict ngl

[craggy stone]

The mission will stay in your backlogs but as I said you can ignore it 🤣. Also I heard if you wanna side with Nuka World Raiders you can OD mama Murphy and attack the settlement she died in.

[frosty violet]

I can try it but for now normal gameplay

[marsh veldt]

Are you suspecting something, or it's just off-topic?

[magic current]

I just realised the player character has lego hands

[terse bay]

Does Bethesda have any other games like FO3/4/NV?

[proven elm]

If you're talking about Bethesda Game Studios, you might take a look at Starfield.

[red linden]

So I was playing the curtain Call mission, pretty sure I teleported away while I was doing it, since I wanted to do something else. Now Rex and Strong are stuck, Strong just says go away bleeder and Rex doesn’t react. They sometimes move, but like they are npcs, not in the middle of a mission.

Going up and down the elevator does nothing, I’m on Xbox also.

Also when I’m going up to their floor, I can sometimes hear and see strong saying fighting noises. Like in the subtitles. What do i do to continue from here?

[sweet marten]

On PC (not console) the Fallout London total conversion for FO4 is very good, and much larger than a DLC like Far Harbor. If you own GOG version of FO4 there is a one-click install. The New California mod for New Vegas (again for PC) is also good, though smaller and rougher around the edges. Starfield was fun though a little bland.

[lilac saffron]

Yo there are prices for anniversary edition upgrade for those who have the goty edition on playstation?

[sweet marten]

Nothing in #fallout-announcements yet, and the mods here take a Super Sledge to people posting rumors. A Google search might turn up speculation, but it will be just that -- guessing

[craggy stone]

All this secrecy is absolutely vile

[charred karma]

would be nice if they let us know the prices or atleast if there will be an upgrade version 😭

[hidden nimbus]

Hey I know a lot of people are mad about the anniversary edition but I'm looking forward to it if it has creations like starfield. Base game really only needs a perk overhaul tbh. Do we know if there will be a perk mod creation for anniversary yet?

I just want to play fo4 with good bayonet damage.

[hidden nimbus]

Anything else is just extra

[craggy stone]

Why are Creations your big thing?

Mods are made because they are a passion and besides you can always donate to paetrons and such if you wanna support the mod devs "especially because Bethesda takes a hefty chunk from the profits"

[hidden nimbus]

Because I'm not smart enough to make a modlist myself, and there is no wabbajack list I currently can run/get working.

[craggy stone]

Just follow the standard issue load order m8

[hidden nimbus]

You know how many people download and never support the maker?

And I have adult money to spend

[craggy stone]

That's the peoples problem we are living in a global hellscape rightnow 🤣

Plus if you have adult money go spend on their paetron!

We are literally 2 minutes to midnight m8 "nuclear Armageddon"

The earth is on thin ice

Post apocalypse Middle East about to be looking like Mad Max 🤣

[hidden nimbus]

That's been the norm for a while now

[craggy stone]

I may not have a vault but I have common sense and basic survival knowledge

Canned food is gonna be what I hunt for as well as Ammo and gun oil

Also creations is going to bring "get rich quick" scam artists like in Starfield and Skyrim

[hidden nimbus]

And people will learn to avoid such mods. Reviews, and signs of poor quality.

It's really easier to make a modlist in creations. Don't have to worry about game version, or crazy technical stuff.

[weak coyote]

Seems like they want to recreate the fan excitement they got with shadow dropping oblivion...

[weak coyote]

User made mods are superior, you can actually communicate with them, ask for features or completely new mods made, donate money and keep them supporting the mods they make with improvements and updates.

[craggy stone]

True

[craggy stone]

This!!!

[hidden nimbus]

You saying creators don't play the game? Not true for all of them.

Fo4 modding is properly dead anyway. Creations will bring it back.

[pine gazelle]

Is it true that the T-51 power armor had a problem in the back of the stomach

When is a melee fight

[languid tide]

Does Todd Howard even read the discord here ever?

[hidden nimbus]

He probably wouldn't announce himself

[random root]

Sometimes I hope the option to disable creation club mods become available eventually. Kinda getting tired of it all. Genuinely just want a more vanilla fallout 4 experience😅

[pine gazelle]

Like imagine trusting your bulletproof armor but you get back stabbed by a knife

[hidden nimbus]

If it's anything like how starfield does creations it should be possible to achieve that in anniversary edition.

[mystic totem]

Guys!

Can someone help, I’m trying to get fall out working on my PC using ps5 controller using X360CE but it doesn’t seem to work properly from what I see, the controls are all weird it’s to do with the sensitivy mainly

[sullen prairie]

I agree. Gets annoying when you get bombarded with CC Quests after exiting the vault.

[weak coyote]

Not what I said at all.

[fallen fable]

I only need the dogs, pipboy skins, and a couple others, so come the 10th I'm planning to go back to Skyrim and over to FO London. I did enjoy the content I ended up waiting years for. Kudos to the community. If you waited even just this much longer, it's probably worth getting.

[magic current]

XD chuckling to myself because as an initiate i had curie nick and strong follow me onto a bos base

[mint pike]

um guys why are the mods and creation club are going to be down for maintenance

Whats going to be happening

[thorn summit]

That is the only information we have at this time.

[mint pike]

I hope this new update is going to be good

[mint pike]

And also I tried to click on a certain mod and and this stupid thing popped up saying operation could not be completed and tooked me back to the main menu like what the hell is that!

That bug needs to be fixed

If that doesn't get fixed im done playing fallout 4

[steady tundra]

I know about the conflict between the big four factions, but there are other minor quests that also conflict with either other minor quests or faction quests.
Are there any definitive lists of the quests the conflict with each other including all minor/side quests? I'm looking to get as close to 100% as possible in a single run and want to make sure I don't muck it up by doing quests out of order or going too far with a major questline, cutting off other quests.

[craggy stone]

https://youtu.be/MvF-RJcfEko?si=kestZWN0pSBItKyA

Lmfao they found Petes stash!

Ngl this is hella awesome dude found gold rush era dynamite

[languid tide]

Dangerous find but a cool one nonetheless

[stoic oasis]

a picture that mod uses is in a unsupported format and thus kicks you out with that message

[craggy stone]

Which is crazy that this is even an Issue ngl 😂.

[weak coyote]

They could have set it up so if the image is unsupported, it's automatically replaced with a generic image that won't cause issues.

[vivid warren]

My 50 year old father just downloaded fo4 and I'm excited lol

I have something like 1000 hours on this game so I hope he likes it too

[steady tundra]

That's awesome. Hope he loves it.
Just don't overload him with info/things to do. Let the raiders take him down a few notches before offering advise. 😁

[vivid warren]

Hahah I'll try

[weak coyote]

Explain the bugginess he will have to get used to... Don't get too frustrated.

[west trout]

Not complicated. "Limited" would be a better word.

[sweet marten]

Two things to warn him about: do real saves and keep a long set of them, not 1 quicksave. Quit after playing 2-3 hours and if it's a console then restart the console. BGS game engines start to go bad if you play them too long, and so do the consoles without a real reboot. Edit: also, ignore the radio messages from the caravan (Automatron) and Nuka-world, and ignore the vault DLC one until he's in the area. Starting Automatron messes with the base game because of all the robot hit squads.

[swift orbit]

Chat far harbour is like hella cheap on PlayStation rn

[austere wedge]

its far in the harbor. you may not be able to reach it

[fallen fable]

Should I have not installed Fallout London first? I thought that's what it meant by 1-click install, but GOTY didn't install with it, though it took about 70GB. I've started the GOTY install. I hope it will work, but standalone London crashed everything when I tried to play.

[elfin plinth]

Will this new edition have ultrawide support

[sweet marten]

The Team FOLON discord has installation instructions and support. Their website: https://fallout4london.com/press-kit/

[karmic sapphire]

I guess the new update won’t increase mod space limit that’s honestly makes me way less hyped

[brave swan]

Just started fallout 4 for the first time ever and I started it on survival

[junior chasm]

I can’t get into the institute with the teleporter because the console absolutely refuses to power, I’m on PS5 btw. Can anyone help me

When I store the console, it finishes the power stage of the quest too

[serene arch]

did you link all three teleporter items together ?

[junior chasm]

What do you mean

[serene arch]

the dish, the console and the teleporter need to be linked and powered

[junior chasm]

How do I link the console to the other components

[serene arch]

with wiring, same way you link a generator to a water purifier

[junior chasm]

Worked, thanks

[craggy stone]

No don't say it's true! BETHESDA!!! It's been ten years... smh... I swear to you if they do this I'm finna crash out.

The incompetence is baffling!

Or as Darth Vader said: "I find their lack of faith disturbing"

[peak parcel]

More alive than the rest

[peak parcel]

too little time, I think so and the appearance of a bunch of messages at the beginning of the game, as a favorite feature of ma..

[craggy stone]

So you think they will?

[peak parcel]

direct all efforts and debugging to creations

[craggy stone]

Ikr... like imagine thinking that a game which literally has new mods being made for it all the time is dead... I mean Capital Wasteland Project, Project Mojave, FallOut London, FallOut Miami

And it seems Ice is completely oblivious to the mods constantly being made by the Commonwealth Weaponry Expansion Team...

Exactly! Fallout is as beloved as the Elder Scrolls

[peak parcel]

Fallout Cascadia (It's also in development, although it's difficult there)

[craggy stone]

The ONLY fallout mod we can forget is "The Frontier" 🤣

That was a clustertruck of a mod although the vehicles were smooth

[velvet delta]

Please be respectful of each other

[fallen fable]

This is just the first such guide on Steam community pages, but you pretty much have to follow a specific route, and split your story off, then go back after getting an achievement. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3559159270 and you should probably glance at the list of all achievements if they're posted somewhere. I think you'll have to do your own search for that one.

[steady tundra]

Sorry, I should've been more specific. I don't care about Steam achievements at all.
I'm talking about doing as close to 100% in-game completion as possible (doing all possible quests, etc.) in one run.
Of course, the MQ will end with using the minutemen to destroy the institute while staying friendly with the brotherhood and railroad. Thing is, I know there are at least some side quests that get cut off at certain points. I was wondering if there was a guide that details these points.

[fallen fable]

Well I hope someone has one specifically ready to go, but there are over 500 walkthroughs on that page.

[weak coyote]

If you do the three way peace, nothing but faction main quests get cut off.

[steady tundra]

Aren't there at least a few side quests that get cut off if certain people die, or if you side a certain way in the MQ?

[fallen fable]

I just do the radiant quests at least five times, while they're all friendly, hope not to advance them too far, and hope for the best. In ten days, completion will mean dlc's and you can definitely cut a lot of missions out of the game. I know about that much.

[warped tiger]

Im building a vault where charge cards are used for currency in the vault but am having trouble. See I don't know weather I want to have this one office be a general claims office or a security office.

And even then in having a hard time figuring out how to design the interior of the office.

What should I do? And no. Before you ask this is a vault with a microprofiling experiment. All purchases are tracked and the vault is pretty much a capitalism vault experiment. The shopping mall of the post war.

[hidden nimbus]

Skyrim modding is certainly not dead. What rest are you thinking of? Anyway point stands that creations could revive the fo4 mod scene by bringing new mods.

[austere wedge]

it doesn't need reviving it still gets regular mod releases of good to great quality

[hollow abyss]

is the fallout 4 maintenence gonna effect DLC content in fallout 4

[weak coyote]

Radiant faction quests never end.

[weak coyote]

Of course if they are dead... But can't really think of any otherwise.

[weak coyote]

I see new mods added to Playstation frequently, I'd imagine PC is even more frequent... Modding isn't dead.

[weak coyote]

The 6 Official DLC's?
Creation Club Content?
Mods?

[buoyant torrent]

Modding never dies. I'm currently working on a Total Annihilation conversion mod.

[buoyant torrent]

https://mods.bethesda.net/en/fallout4/mod-detail/4118796 <-- XBOX (only 160Mb!)
https://mods.bethesda.net/en/fallout4/mod-detail/4375786 <-- PC (also only 160Mb, but who cares?)

AppleTree Bakery and Creamery (ABC) v10!

[potent perch]

I hope the devs fix the issues on console version specifically ps5 as I want to do a full survival vanilla play through and platinum Fallout 4 I want Fallout 4 to be my first platinum game as it’s a game I can sink hours into just by exploring and settlement building alone.

[buoyant torrent]

Creation Kit is being annoying, I can't upload this one to Bethesda.net right now.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/97850

[crisp falcon]

I just realized the heavy incinerator can act as artillery at long distance if you use vats, now that is fun.