fallout-tv-series

[dusky flicker]

cant walk the long 15 without having a nation’s shadow fall on you

[versed path]

Im still mad about the strip

I hope it gets revived.

[dusky flicker]

it undoubtedly will all the infrastructure is there, the lights are still on

[versed path]

It leaves me to believe it was very recent

[dusky flicker]

i think so too

my Hypo-Thesis is some kind of reactor fiasco in the lucky 38

i mean the episode 5 preview has a LOT of freeside so there’s no way vegas in general destroyed

like when they’re at the freeside gate and lucy is talking about “shutting the fudge up” you can see people in the background

[autumn jay]

I do too. I hope house can bring Vegas back and start to rebuild

[versed path]

It'd be an awesome place for the final battle, if one happens

[dusky flicker]

i personally think thats whats being set up

all of these factions colliding actually on vegas

ncr house brotherhood all want cold fusion
legion and great khans want land and bodies

[versed path]

Where is the securitron army.

[autumn jay]

We need city’s to start to rebuild now. Not constantly just being destroyed and abandoned

[versed path]

Maybe- just maybe- the securitron army is far away, and the sudden deathclaw attack caught them very off guard

So they are enroute.

[dusky flicker]

auto vegas has people

i mean the ghoul and lucy will probably mess up the wrangler lol

[autumn jay]

Unless house had multiple bunkers with securitrons in them. Thats why he needs cold fusion to wake all of them up at once instead of the platinum chip which can only do it once

[dusky flicker]

Our Brains Are Thinking

[versed path]

Its house

I have a feeling he'd have more than just one.

Maybe? Who knows

[autumn jay]

Outer Vegas yeah. But why would outer Vegas have people but not the more secure Vegas strip? It doesn’t make sense

[dusky flicker]

i think it does make sense, it means vegas has people, freeside has people right away from the strip
thats why i don’t personally think all the kings are dead

[autumn jay]

True or something else. There has to be a massive reason why house wanted cold fusion before the end of the world. And Hoover dam was just a bandaid until he can find out where cold fusion went

[dusky flicker]

they just cant use the strip since the Incident

[versed path]

Well. It's unlimited power. Who doesn't want that

He can power the strip, plus his ideas for space travel flawlessly

[dusky flicker]

without nuclear meltdowns and subsequent comas lol

[autumn jay]

Yeah but it means he has something much bigger he has to power up that Hoover dam couldn’t

What if house has something we’ve never seen before

[versed path]

Kinda don't want him to have some

'Secret weapon'

[dusky flicker]

lol a second secret weapon

[versed path]

The securitron army + platinum chip WAS his secret weapon

[dusky flicker]

“now with cold fusion i can complete the ultimate weapo—“
“thats a cryolator”
“what”
“thats a cryolator”

[versed path]

LOL

[dusky flicker]

house slowly opens the wall doors to reveal his secret weapon

nuka cola quantum x01 power armor

[autumn jay]

Yeah but again it’s house. If he’s really that smart he’d have multiple plans.

[versed path]

Tbf if he was gonna have a real second secret weapon, it would be the courier

[dusky flicker]

lucy or the ghoul needs to pick pocket someone and put a grenade on them

cant wait for goris

[abstract sleet]

Canonically in the game, he is that smart yeah. Hope they keep that characterisation in the show

[grizzled gate]

I hope if the NV remaster does happen, they fix Mean SonofawordIcantsayhere's dialogue so he says "Wesibe" right.

[stiff blade]

Alrighty

At the strip entrance there is a car with yellow graffiti that says "Everyone is gone,"
That's a reference to the Divide in NV

[indigo trellis]

cat post

[abstract sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-cat-new-vegas-gif-11843442502200710278

[midnight nova]

patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[blazing jackal]

New Episode Tomorrow!

[versed path]

https://tenor.com/view/sgt-dornan-fallout-its-peak-gif-5688767570747783484

[shy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-death-claw-dance-death-claw-dance-dancing-gif-4727848

[orchid lake]

Raaaaah

[abstract sleet]

More Ghoul 😄

[abstract sleet]

The Deathclaw Can-Can Dance on the Yukon

[strong pine]

playing COD reminds me of NW

[abstract sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaf-vibes-vibing-sleeping-cat-gif-17297041570420202318

Cat-Harold

[dusky flicker]

goris today🔥🔥🔥

[minor gorge]

You can't say in one hand, the show is tongue and cheek then have any objections made by fans and viewers. That's like being the victim AND hero all at the same time. No one with a negative objection feels entitled as you put it, they feel that lore drift has become an entire narrative shift. We can make assumptions as to why the show does things, but when the creators themselves tell us "The showrunners aimed to avoid a "civilized" world, such as one where the NCR thrived or new settlements flourished, because they felt such a setting would contradict the core themes of the Fallout universe as they interpreted it."
They could have destroyed the Legion, but they didnt, they could have placed the setting practically anywhere yet unexplored in America, but they didnt.

The creators stated "The Fallout TV series emphasizes capitalism as a central theme because it serves as a direct narrative vehicle to explore the systemic failures and moral compromises that led to global annihilation. The show explicitly portrays Vault-Tec, the corporation responsible for building the vaults, as a profit-driven entity with a "fiduciary responsibility" to its shareholders, which incentivizes the company to ensure the nuclear apocalypse occurs so it can sell survival spaces."

The betrayal is that the writers do not understand the difference between Capitalism and Corporatism's. The fundamental destruction of an economy and the VERY sources of revenue and its currency is the exact opposite of Capitalism. The Destruction of the NCR while leaving the Legion intact and making the regional Brotherhood into...whatever the heck it is now, again doesnt strike me as tongue and cheek but the creators deliberate attempt to put what came before into a blender, destroy and rewrite what came before, and present it as new and fresh.

this is why people are irate. It betrays basic story telling and generates a THis happens then this happens then that happens instead of This happens because of this, which leads to this. And so on

[dusky flicker]

“capitalism vs corporatism” 🥀 dude.

also “why would capitalism destroy the world lol”
is so frustrating as a geologist
i am literally watching the planet die, soil horizons collapsing, oceans acidifying, huge paleo-climatological phenomena that happens over millennia is happening in mere decades and centuries.

we’re literally living it.
are you serious?
that is genuinely such a frustrating question.

you also seem to think being frustrated with the show or not knowing everything is critcism, which its not.
the brotherhood being different and bad is the point? thats a conflict in the show.
ncr aint destroyed.
and the show is literally about addressing why societies can’t develop properly in the wastes, “it all looks like chaos but there’s someone behind the wheel” (an idea black isle came up with by the way.)

tim cain used a good word for faux-critical rants like this. “baffling.”

[crisp grail]

ya'll ..... its episode~~ 3~~4 .....

[dusky flicker]

*4-5

[sterile torrent]

let's be sure to keep it to the realm of fantasy and the show

[dusky flicker]

episode 34

[crisp grail]

guessing whats gonna happen is fun , just like with LOST and Game of Thrones

But judging the entire series based on 4 episodes is a wild take

[minor gorge]

So...you're placing your own bias ahead of 1: what the creators of the very TV series have said.
2. The fundamental differences in capitalism vs corporatism
3. The fact that history has proven capitalism is a place people run to, while leaving the governments they came from
4. that being a geologist apparently doesnt make you a history major
5. and how angry you are from merely having the discussion like this?

[dusky flicker]

you pissing me off is not a win, debate bro

[minor gorge]

You've kina* proven what I was getting at, so there is that

[dusky flicker]

“heh ragebaited you in a publisher’s partner server’s tv show discussion channel”

[sterile torrent]

Stop with the back and forth arguing

[minor gorge]

Alrighty

[red forge]

the show isn’t a lore show

Actually it is, but that doesn't mean writers can't do tongue in cheek stuff.

One thing I feel is that people seem to interpret jokes and easter eggs more as lore than as what it is = jokes and easter eggs

[versed path]

or not

Probably nothing, but this is on the fallout shelter page https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/895061438253633606/1460754059777802455/image.png?ex=696810bb&is=6966bf3b&hm=14203454ccecd6298ea333f7183f5c8a488de7a385b147565beb63253d0ce1d1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[dusky flicker]

what i mean by lore show is something like twin peaks where the entire show is basically one veiled exposition

like where the show uses esoteric visuals for its medium to tell its story

idk it feels like a normal show im not good with a the words

[stiff blade]

I feel like a minority online

I unironically like the show.

[stiff blade]

I'm pretty sure the original 2 games did the same thing with Vault tec, though it wasn't overtly stated

I hope an argentinian Fallout TV show ad was right...

NCR, Legion, and Khans fighting over the strip

[red forge]

I'm sure there's many more people who like it than others try and lead to believe.

[stiff blade]

Like. In watching it, what if the Marked men hit Vegas?

Or maybe the lucky 38 reactor had... Glitches

[red forge]

I'm not going to debate those semantics, but the point is it's a good show.

[stiff blade]

I dunno. I like trying to figure out where it's going

[red forge]

We all are.

That's the point, else it's too predictable.

People want THEIR ending to be canon.

[stiff blade]

I think, people have the same issues with it as Fallout 3

Like. On launch, a lotta folks really, really were upset over nothing

[stiff blade]

I hope they cannonize no ending

Keep it up in the air, yk?

[red forge]

Not going to debate that either. People can and will have their opinions, but the problem is there's been hostile fights over the matter which turns people away from here.

[stiff blade]

I see

I'm not tryina be hostile

[red forge]

No but others have in the past.

[stiff blade]

Yeah, I get that

I suppose so yea

In the writer's room they probably have an ending in mind

I mean. They canonized F4's ending

Writers room too

It would probably lead to less... Whingy youtubers

House is the most likely ending

Even the physical game guide said as much

It's the first ending it touches on, and then the rest

Kinda like Fallout 1 and 2 had a range of endings

True

Oh yeah

Was I thinking of Wasteland then?

Oh yeah

[tawdry trellis]

Didn’t it have two, though? One where you become a super mutant?

[stiff blade]

I think the TV show nails the feel of fallout

Like. A lotta people say "Oh it's not gritty like the old games," But I think that's the opposite. The show nails the absurdist "this is what somebody in the 50s thought the future would be like, turned nuclear wasteland,"

Literally

At least all the legion did was cruxify her

Knowing those skirt wearers' lore oh yeah she did

And yes. I'm making fun of leggies for their sports equipment and skirts

pterux

They're called Pterux

Yeah fr

Amd all denver equipment too if I remember the lore

[dusky flicker]

goris day

[slim night]

So the new episodes release 12AM EST? Or 12 AM PST?

[red forge]

6 hours and 10 minutes.

[slim night]

So 12AM EST

[bleak pulsar]

Hoping this upcoming episode is better than the last two... The first season was amazing, pretty dissapointed so far with season 2

[crisp grail]

so excited!

[slim night]

How and why

[red forge]

Episodes in a show can have mid season fillers.

It's not always about big impact episodes. Some lead up to others.

[crisp grail]

thankfully too, they dont give away too much in the trailers. There isnt much left from the trailer that we havnt seen yet, which means a lot more surprises

[nimble agate]

Am I stupid is the new episode meant to be out

[waxen jasper]

maybe later tonight?

s2e1 and 2 were a little offset by like a day

[red forge]

5 hours and 50 minutes.

Wait..

[nimble agate]

Huh?? I could've sworn they dropped at 1am?

[red forge]

7pm AEDT.

We can't presume to know your timezone.

[red forge]

Sorry I may have miscalculated. I said 6 hours and 10 minutes based on 7pm being 17:00 in 24 hour time. It should have been based on 19:00. So it's in fact 6 hours and 50 minutes from now.

17:00 is 5pm, not 7pm.

I was off by 2 hours.

[waxen jasper]

easy mistake, 24hr time is a little tricky if youre a silly american like me

[slim night]

Roswell!!!

[red forge]

7pm is my local time when it goes live. It's 12:15pm now here.

So 6 hours and 45 minutes.

[slim night]

So 3 AM for me. 12 AM PST. Dayum.

[red forge]

At least we've corrected that now than much later.

[waxen jasper]

me!!!

[versed path]

Where is the true force of the securitron army.

[dusky flicker]

1 million o clock central mountain

[dusky flicker]

slaps belly guess

[versed path]

https://tenor.com/view/clancy-brown-cheer-gif-9665982231563512575

[dusky flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-belly-rub-belly-slap-gif-11344238899365820282

[red forge]

It was a miscalculation on my part, by 2 hours.

[dusky flicker]

tree fiddy

[red forge]

So should be 6 hours and 25 minutes from now.

[dusky flicker]

six globulons

kisses you youre welcome ❤️

[waxen jasper]

how many worm lifetimes is that

[dusky flicker]

yeah

i consult the chicken bones

when im feeling bougie maybe an oryx’s liver

how many years must i work amazon’s homestead in order to earn their son’s hand in marriage

im the finest trapper in hovsgol i would make a great husband please amazon

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-mongolia-gif-7150185570115438476

[red forge]

This isn't the room or server for no-context meme dumping.

[dusky flicker]

guess who just got their clip moved from green to yellow

[versed path]

i use the mayan calender, it stops at 2012 what year is it now

[dusky flicker]

4 chuwen, 9 muwan

specifically 13.0.13.4.11

[versed path]

fun police boo

[dusky flicker]

they actually have a really complex and cool system

[red forge]

ey I'm just giving heads up, before those who do enforce the rules come about.

[thick patio]

This channel is for discussing the Fallout series, not ramdom memes

[dusky flicker]

ramdom💔

[versed path]

i love when i see people debate courier vs ghoul

[waxen jasper]

is there a meme channel?

[versed path]

cause its not even close

[red forge]

no

[thick patio]

No

[dusky flicker]

snuffles

[thick patio]

Let's get back on topic

[waxen jasper]

i love how they portrayed the deathclaws in the newest episode, such a cool design

[versed path]

can't wait to spend 1k to get a statue of it

to rot on a shelf in my room

[waxen jasper]

i really like the changes they made to the deathclaws and PA in 4, and how theyre going with that for the show. definitely a good choice

[thick patio]

#discord-suggestions

[versed path]

..offtopic?

[dusky flicker]

dude the show’s deathclaw design is awesome

[red forge]

It's like a hybrid of T-rex and Balrog.

[dusky flicker]

its my fav high key
perfect union between old and new

[versed path]

fallout 4 did two things correctly.

Deathclaws
and power armor

Everything else was...eh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1213844005746376732/1292557899037671444/uncaption.gif

[dusky flicker]

story is good theoretically

dialogue is great imo, companions rock

nick and hancock in the same game is uh🏳️‍🌈overwhelming

[versed path]

story? i spent my time building a gunner farm

[dusky flicker]

one million turrets and also deathclaw cage i unleash upon preston when he tries to speak to me

when anyone asks for water or beds i just unleash my monster and they shut up

[versed path]

"Did I just catch you wantin to be comfortable!?"

[dusky flicker]

“maybe society should improve somewhat”
evil monster that kills you:

we are mere hours from “shut the fudge up”

how are yall havin lil guys n yo names

[versed path]

uhm

[dusky flicker]

where doth role

[waxen jasper]

#server-roles

i wish there was more faction roles but ill take what i can get

[dusky flicker]

yay ❤️

guys check out my little guy

☹️

[vivid meadow]

Im just realizing, Lucy doesn’t know the ghouls name, she doesn’t even call him anything and only refers to him in 2nd person.

[dusky flicker]

john

[crisp grail]

deer

[raven wolf]

Yup

[red forge]

3 hours.

[dusky flicker]

3 hours til goris

[fierce rune]

maybe the real lesson of fallout tv series is about letting go...

[autumn jay]

Yes. We need all of them from the Reddit fallout discord

Not the Reddit one but the other one, I can’t think of its name

[autumn jay]

Don’t say that, the ghost people are watching

[vivid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/shawn-breezy-fallout-new-vegas-gold-bars-let-go-gif-6199076339251295315

[abstract sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-fallout-new-vegas-ulysses-man-writing-on-fire-lonesome-road-gif-4303171078894632196

[stiff blade]

Sure it's about letting go

Letting go of Poverty

[red forge]

1 hour.

[split gorge]

42 minutes

[split gorge]

10 minutes

[plain portal]

1 minute

[split gorge]

GO TIME

[autumn jay]

If we get a remake of new Vegas they will patch this out 100%

[split gorge]

OMG it was insane!!

|| F.E.V. Mention!!! the Fake house confirmed (ik it's obvious I knew it, but people can shut up about it now) No Maximus and Thadeuss sadly, Norm is cooked ||

|| House suspects the Enclave maybe? How did Janey get separated from Cooper? ||

PEOPLE talk to me Please THEORIZE

[raven wolf]

Ruining the message 😭

[dusky flicker]

im kind of disappointed

[split gorge]

Why?

[dusky flicker]

idk yet

just the feeling i have

[split gorge]

|| 100% he's fine, well he'll make it ||

[iron shale]

How do i black out my messages?

[dusky flicker]

i guess im just disappointed because ||the fev wasn’t even a reveal, i knew what that was the moment i heard future enterprise ventures||, there was like barely anymore exposition about the state of the wasteland other than ||lucy being in “khan territory” which is interesting i suppose||

[split gorge]

|| twice on each end

| | message | |

Like that, without spaces in-between lines

[dusky flicker]

||100% the ghoul will be saved by and brought to house somehow||

idk why im just. :/

[split gorge]

|| of most definitely ||

[iron shale]

||Wait, didn't see see him with Max and Thaddius in one of the trailers?||

[dusky flicker]

all this build up better be for something because its starting to get kind of frustrating

[plain portal]

That is probably next week

[fossil thicket]

Damn

[split gorge]

|| the brotherhood civil war being in full swing is the lead into season 3 I think ||

[dusky flicker]

uh. no they better contextualize what happened to vegas and these beloved factions lol

[fossil thicket]

I didn't expect that ending lol

[dusky flicker]

cus like yeah okay i fw the mystery
we’re running out of episodes
please do something im getting anxious

||like i know in the trailer there’s a shot of mcauly crowning himself caesar but like||

[fossil thicket]

Not so sure

[dusky flicker]

||well hes not dying he meets computer house in the trailer||

[iron shale]

||Doesn't that canonize an ending?||

[dusky flicker]

victor alive is already confirmation of house ending

yes man deactivates victor’s personality

idk am i an ape for needing faction slop and lore confirmations

[abstract sleet]

Honestly - the big draw of Fallout is ultimately the intrigue (imo) because you get to navigate the future of the Wasteland so no you are not an ape for needing factional stuff and continuity & lore

[red forge]

||He has to, because the 2nd trailer showed footage of Ghoul-Cooper in the same room as House on his monitor.||

And wow... a lot of unpack in that one.

So ||House thinking someone else was also in the roundtable room, this looks like it could be that shadow guy. I think he's Enclave, and House, to me, is implying Enclave are ultimately who dropped the bombs.||

But ||he just doesn't know who they are.||

[abstract sleet]

Hmmm now I'm kinda okay with that theory

[red forge]

It's the one piece of that puzzle I've theorised that hasn't been covered yet.

[abstract sleet]

||I'm still keeping the mysterious origins of the bombing for my fanfic story tho ||

[abstract sleet]

||Yeah, it definitely is in character for the Enclave to do that imo||

[red forge]

Please use the spoiler tag.

[abstract sleet]

Sorry!

But yeah it makes sense

[red forge]

||The 2nd trailer is best implication yet that House won, because of the moment Ghoul-Cooper is in the same room as House on his big screen.||

[red forge]

||We still don't yet know how Cooper was separated from his wife and Janey. That's clearly going to be closer to when the bombs drop (in the show), because we also don't yet know how he was ghoulified.||

1 thing that irks me is ||how Norm knew Barbara's computer login credentials.||

Also ||it's comical how much Lucy spews up. That's a lot of bile.||

[woven scaffold]

So the ||Enclave|| definitely started the war. Figures.

[red forge]

It's seeming that way.

[plain portal]

@abstract sleet ||So US government dropped the bombs||

[abstract sleet]

gasps

https://tenor.com/view/chipmunk-dramatic-gif-1355294702835697974

[red forge]

It makes sense. I don't see ||Enclave NOT doing that. Like, as far as I know, it's their ultimate goal.||

[abstract sleet]

Yeah the story will go gangbusters 😄

This is the turning point

[steep raven]

Nah bruh ||House done mentioned the Calculator, its over||

[abstract sleet]

||The Enclave is the kind of group that believes in social cleansing||

[plain portal]

||They probably losing control so they decided to drop them and get rebuild us as they see fit||

[red forge]

This is why we have to tread caution on using speculation as fact. Stick to theory unless you have absolute proof. Things can be so heavily implied, until the point it's made out that it's in fact not the case.

[woven scaffold]

||Genocide has always been their thing. And we know the Enclave never cared about America or its people. Just themselves and power.||

[plain portal]

||I do hope we get to see more of house missile silo||

[abstract sleet]

||Anything that deepens House is good for the story because House was always meant to be a deep character in the game||

[torpid ermine]

Wow wow wow, great episode

[abstract sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-fallout-on-prime-amazon-mgm-studios-bethesda-cooper-howard-gif-10320412049622312488

Good to hear

[marble heron]

||Wait is this vault within that hotel vault from NV. Didn’t house want a part of that vault filled with concrete. Do you think this secret part of the vault was part of it||

[midnight nova]

the ghoul is ||cooper howard ||

[torpid ermine]

I'm sure it's already been discussed but I'll touch on some things:

||Enclave and the pre-war US government likely created the and toyed around with the deathclaws, this is kinda confirmed by older lore as well.||
||FEV is somehow known by vault tec- but was a west tek creation.(Though not wholly unsurprising considering they all had an alliance.)||
||The tech house was experimenting with finally worked. Where does this lead?||
||The deathclaws from quarry junction have made their way into the strip. Through freeside though? How does that work? How did they get there? Hmmm.||
||Oof. Cooper is impaled. I hope he's okay. Someone get him a stimpack ASAP. Think he's gonna make it?||
||No one seemingly knows who dropped the nukes, House seems to imply it being the "unknown" which seems to me to be a tease as to it being the Enclave. But I think it's unlikely that they did it as in Fallout 2 the Enclave insists China did it first and many Enclave members didn't make it to their designated areas. Nevertheless the constant infighting and problems they had themselves post-war. Imo!||

Overall I think was a great episode so far and rounded up a lot of questions people had, now onto the next episode and to finish the season for answers to lingering questions and irks.

[torpid ermine]

Potentially for sure

||The same way the thing Thaddeus took from the snake oil salesman is probably FEV or some intense radiation thing idk||

Most of my questions have honestly been answered and satisfied this episode but one of my biggest irks is ||the way the nuke was just walked into shady sands, wtf?||

[abstract sleet]

|| Good ol' deathclaws from the quarry|| 😄

[torpid ermine]

So it's canon the courier didn't wipe them all out? Smh

The guy was probably speedrunning

[abstract sleet]

I mean, they're truly tough enemies even on easy difficulty 😅

[torpid ermine]

I'm just wondering how they got there

[abstract sleet]

So it stands to reason that not all of them is easily wiped out

[red forge]

Yeah the thing about ||the bomb drop is we still don't know yet for absolute certainty. House is just suggesting another entity is involved, he just doesn't know who they are.||

[abstract sleet]

Somebody probably slept on duty

[torpid ermine]

I've said it here before but I honestly think it's better if no one ever knows for sure

[torpid ermine]

A bunch of them just ran through freeside???

https://tenor.com/view/fo76-fallout-fallout76-deathclaw-flamethrower-gif-24950154

[red forge]

Maybe that could end up being the case.
This is why, as I've pointed out a few times, we need to stick to only what we theorise, and make clear it's theory.

[torpid ermine]

Imo itd be the best for the story as well as people debating about it will always cause a good discussion imo, like how no one knows for sure if Deckard was/is a replicant

[red forge]

If only we could maintain such civil discussions 🙂

[torpid ermine]

Smh ikr, oh well

[abstract sleet]

More likely than you think!

[abstract sleet]

I'm very much with you on that tbh

[torpid ermine]

My humorous take is that it was the aliens, they were flying by earth, ran out of gas, crashed and someone thought a nuke was thrown and all hell broke loose and everyone was caught with their pants down

[red forge]

I'm in 2 mindsets. It would be interesting to see if it does get revealed who does it, but at the same time I will respect and understand if it's still to never be revealed.

And I do see the appeal in keeping in vague.

[torpid ermine]

It's also like, does it really matter? The bombs dropped, no one came out on top, everything is cooked, and people are just fighting to pick up the pieces

As far as I'm concerned the bombs dropped on October 23rd 2077

[marble heron]

House said it was a prediction

[torpid ermine]

That has not changed

[abstract sleet]

I hope that happens simply because it keeps the final president of America's mystique

[red forge]

Oh that's another interesting thing I noticed. The mention of the ||the specific date, that was not 2077.||

||House quoted what Cooper said is Janey's birthdate||

[abstract sleet]

Nobody knows who that was and it should be kept that way

[marble heron]

Could’ve been 12 years later idk this seems odd

[red forge]

||House said everything has made mathematical sense, until Cooper came into the equation, and shifted the prediction.||

[marble heron]

So by 12 years?

[red forge]

||House said that Cooper's involvement has changed the result.||

[torpid ermine]

Could it ever also be that Cooper is an unreliable narrator?

[abstract sleet]

He has that vibe (love Goggins tho)

[red forge]

But ||the full extent of seeking clarity on the shift in date, is not yet apparent.||

[near birch]

||The courier in the canon universe didn't clear out the quarry junction??||

[red forge]

||He only pointed out that something was to happen, which ended up being when Janey was born.||

[abstract sleet]

I'm strongly of the opinion that he should be shrouded in the shadows of history

[marble heron]

Probably not, likely took the long way around

[red forge]

But ||the shift in date has not yet been clarified, only that it happened mathematically because Cooper became an unknown variable in his equation.||

[woven scaffold]

He was basically saying that Janey stopped events from occurring, because it gave Barb something more to care about.

[abstract sleet]

As is tradition

[red forge]

While ||pre-war House knows the world is going to end, he's saying he's not certain as to when, because of Cooper being the anomaly.||

[torpid ermine]

As far as I'm concerned in the interviews and stuff after they maintain the 2077 nuke date

[marble heron]

||What if the enclave launched the nukes what if that’s the variable that house can’t predict||

[torpid ermine]

Why would they change it or lie about that in the interviews?

[abstract sleet]

Yeah. I'm in the 2077 camp

[red forge]

2077 is absolute.

[marble heron]

2077 sounds better not 2065

[torpid ermine]

The real debate is what time

[red forge]

2077 is the one thing that underpins the entire franchise.

[abstract sleet]

Only because if they retcon it, it would change everything

[marble heron]

Though barb having Janey likely changed things by 12 years it seems

[torpid ermine]

The date, October 23rd, 2077, the time? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[red forge]

Everything revolves around the lore of the bombs dropping in 2077. That is absolute.

[marble heron]

How old is she by time of the bombs dropping though

[torpid ermine]

About 10?

[red forge]

If ||she's born in 2065, she'd be 11 or 12.||

[abstract sleet]

That's rough, buddy

[marble heron]

Exactly unless if vault Tex were originally going to drop the bombs though by 2065 many vaults were either being constructed or havent started at that time

[torpid ermine]

The only inconsistency in the series is the time of the nuke drop, in the fallout NV they drop at night during the gala, but in the show it's during the day, and in the midday and afternoon in others

[red forge]

Please spoiler tag.

[abstract sleet]

||I thought the vaults were constructed in 2054?||

[marble heron]

Some maybe

[red forge]

Guys, please remember to spoiler tag plot points.

[marble heron]

Got it mb

[torpid ermine]

I think it may ultimately be anticlimactic who ended the world, could just have been China and everyone lost

Or the aliens

[abstract sleet]

I just hope that they keep the final president of the USA hidden and lost to history

That's one of my fave aspects of Fallout lore

It lets me fill in the horror more

[torpid ermine]

Oh we kinda know but we don't know what happened to them, just that they ran off before the drop and they were at the oil rig every now and then

[abstract sleet]

That is as it should be

I love the mystique

[red forge]

But what does confuse me a bit is that ||Janey doesn't look 12 in the opening scene when the bombs drop. She looks closer to 10, but that could be consequence of actors looking older or younger (or being actually older/younger) than their character.||

[torpid ermine]

The latter more likely

[red forge]

Certainly not the first time that ||actors play someone older or younger than they are.||

So I'll not dwell on that. Just a curious point.

But now we need to find out ||why House thinks Cooper is an anomaly.||

[woven scaffold]

Because he has main character energy.

[torpid ermine]

Well, he's married to the VT's chair

[red forge]

Somehow ||Janey's birth changed his prediction.||

[woven scaffold]

All main characters are unknown variables, because multiple endings.

[torpid ermine]

I wouldn't doubt that the ghoul is actually the main character tbh

[red forge]

I thought she's the secretary.

[torpid ermine]

No one else has that name or style on the show, the courier, the ghoul, the vault dweller, the wanderer, the chosen one, etc

[red forge]

Well given her actual job title is not yet known, I'm of the impression she's the company secretary.

[torpid ermine]

Secretary? Don't they just push paper's?? She deffo does more than that

[red forge]

They do much more than company admin.

I think you're thinking more of an executive assistant.

Maybe she could have a higher board rank.

Like I said, it's not yet explicit what her job title is.

[torpid ermine]

Super CEO

Obviously

[woven scaffold]

I thought she was just 2nd below the CEO.

[torpid ermine]

Yeah same

[red forge]

The second to CEO is generally a COO type.

So maybe.

[woven scaffold]

Because it’s the day Janey was born.

Yes, he is wrong. That scene they’re talking is like 2076/77. Janey’s birth delayed the bombs because Barb loved her.

House doesn’t know everything, he’s trying to figure out why he was wrong.

[abstract sleet]

||So it originally was scheduled for 2065 but got delayed to 2077?||

[red forge]

That's why ||he said that Cooper is an unknown variable, or THE unknown variable.||

[abstract sleet]

Ahh okay thanks for the clarification

[red forge]

||All he said was a date in 2065, which Cooper said is Janey's birthday, and now House said that Cooper's "involvement" has caused the prediction to shift by 12 year, correlating with the bomb drop. He just doesn't know how or why yet (based on current story telling).||

[red forge]

||Scheduled? don't think so, he's made it out to be a prediction based on mathematics. He never said he knew how the world would end, just that it would.||

[lilac sequoia]

hes not dead

Theres numerous clips of him alive for the battle on the strip

Theres scenes of him and thaddeus which they have not met yet

[lilac sequoia]

Theres also scenes of him tryna climb his way out of that pole in the trailer for the next episode

I can see it being believable due to his healing from radiation and he has survived things like gunshot wounds

yea but we see in trailers he survives that

[abstract sleet]

Fair dinkum!

[woven scaffold]

You see in the Ep 6 preview how he survives.

[lilac sequoia]

climbing out is baddass if u ask me

hes prob doing that the whole episode

[abstract sleet]

If he's a ghoul, then he's tough as boots by default 🙂

[abstract sleet]

That he has done

[lilac sequoia]

My guess is a super mutant comes along to save him

[abstract sleet]

If you survive the nuclear armageddon, and you're around for hundreds of years after that, then being impaled is yet another obstruction to face anyway

[lilac sequoia]

from the trailer he has a tired voice and talks about finding his family and it cuts to a Ron Pearlman voice

This was probably an aftermath of being impaled

[red forge]

And Thaddeus managed to survive an arrow through his neck, which revealed he became a ghoul, even to his own surprise.

[abstract sleet]

That's the point of the Ghoul imo

[abstract sleet]

definitely - so the old chap'll be up after being impaled anyway

[lilac sequoia]

I dont think we are gonna see House until the present

This pre war scene was great but hes prob not gonna show up until then

more like whens the dark brotherhood coming up

[abstract sleet]

They'll know how to help, being survivors themselves

Morag Tong sends their regards

[woven scaffold]

Maximus knows the Ghoul travelled with Lucy. He’ll arrive to Vegas, see him, help him and then they work together like in the trailer.

[lilac sequoia]

I dont think the super mutant is marcus or whatever. I think its genuinely some random intelligent super mutant passing by

Like sure maybe he’ll lore drop where he came from being Jacobstown but hes probably not significant

[lilac sequoia]

i believe they will meet at an NCR camp to show how maximus got the power armor. probably salvaged from camp golf

[abstract sleet]

I hope they keep that. It's one of these lore aspects that is so bi-coded in the sense that it's coded for both Obsidian and Bethesda so no matter what happens, it fits both of them well, tonally

[abstract sleet]

(Jacobstown I mean)

[woven scaffold]

Kill her and take his daughter. But she’ll go evil mode too.

[abstract sleet]

Love that XD

[lilac sequoia]

well i think we are learning Barb is more so a victim next episode

[woven scaffold]

Of course he can settle down.

[lilac sequoia]

she knows about these executives and shes just bargaining for a better chance of survival

[abstract sleet]

I would not be surprised if that was the case

She is in the most terrifying place imaginable

[lilac sequoia]

shes prob under all the concrete in vault 21 where hank also is

[abstract sleet]

She's surrounded by people who would not hesitate to end the world

[weak kayak]

Neil

[lilac sequoia]

its been pretty obvious since s1 the enclave are behind this

[lilac sequoia]

thing is Neil has a voice of his own and was only a character for approaching u in black mountain

sure they could “change” voices but this adds nothing for old or new fans

[plain portal]

We probably learn the name of the power armor

[lilac sequoia]

new fans wont know who he is and old fans wont recognize because all super mutants look the same

[weak kayak]

And it’s a safe option if they don’t want to delve heavily on old characters people recognise

[abstract sleet]

||If there's a group that I could accept as being a group to have caused the end of the world, it would be the Enclave||

[frozen badger]

What an episode🔥 🔥
Mr house is ||DEFINITELY talking about the enclave right?||

[weak kayak]

But they could always Glupp pooper the rust king from 76 in

It would be a crime if we don’t see Raul

[red forge]

It seems that way, BUT ||he doesn't know it's Enclave. He doesn't know who that other "body" was at the meeting.||

[abstract sleet]

Our dear snarky sparky Raul XD

[red forge]

He also ||didn't even hint about the Enclave, so to me he's implying he doesn't know the Enclave exists.||

[weak kayak]

Danny Trejo is still active celebrating new vegas every so often when it hits the anniversary’s so would be nice to give him his flowers by having a cameo

[abstract sleet]

Yup I give him his autonomy all the time

[frozen badger]

Yes but ||from the viewer's perspective, the missing part is the enclave.||

[abstract sleet]

We should do that tbh

[red forge]

Yes, ||WE know that as the audience, he as the character does not.||

[frozen badger]

Yeah

[weak kayak]

He’s living the dream running his own taco place

[red forge]

Oh I just remembered something. ||Part of why House thinks Cooper is an unknown variable. He said Cooper was never meant to be in Vegas, so it seems to be Barb had something to do with that.||

[weak kayak]

||in that case I wonder is moldaver part of the enclave and barbs friend to entice cooper away from what she’s doing pre war like a full on espionage scheme in an espionage plot||

[abstract sleet]

Ooh - that would be an intriguing crinkle in the story

[weak kayak]

It would be a bit over the top but not entirely out of the realm of possibility

[red forge]

But ||House did indicate he knew Cooper was there to kill him.||

Or maybe ||that all ties in. He knows why he's there, but still addressed he was never meant to be there at all.||

[pine minnow]

So genuine question with no spoiler. What the f**k.

[slim night]

||Yeah he very clearly knows the Enclave exists in certain way, but he doesn’t have a name, nor the proof. It also eludes to the Enclave being the ones who launched the nukes first. And we know they had deep ties in Vault-Tec. So they could have owned Vault-Tec nukes (like the one dropped in Megaton). This also isn’t the first time The Enclave wished to used nukes. They created the Scorched Plague to gain access to nukes.||

[slim night]

For real.

[red forge]

Yeah that's what I'm saying. ||He knows another party was there, just doesn't know who they are.||

[spring basin]

Okay, that was definitely the best episode so far.

[weak kayak]

Watch Sgt dornan show up

[spring basin]

With 3 being a close second.

[nimble pike]

Wow.... Wow, wow, wow...

This episode was absolutly incredible and change everything ! Some implications !

What are your thoughts everyone ? 😍 😱

[spring basin]

Everything flowed perfectly. The plot is finally moving forward at a steady pace, characters are getting great moments across the board, like || House in his interaction with Coop. || Also, || Lucy getting tranqed by Coop, to have her then slug him with the powerfist, to then get found by her father... ||

https://tenor.com/view/sakugastudio-jxrdn-absolute-cinema-luffy-gif-15469166217534865765

[nimble pike]

Exactly ! That's amazing ! There is so much revelations about the each characters but also for the Fallout Universe and it's lore ! That's crazy ! And what are your theories ? House gives us so much possibilities when he talks with Coop

[red forge]

See all the spoiler tagged stuff over the last couple of hours.

[nimble stream]

|| my theory based on ep5 is China launched the nukes first as a last ditch retaliation to the non nuclear weapons of mass destruction (F.E.V, deathclaws etc) being used against China house says something along the lines of the people behind the demon in the snow are the group he doesn’t know about that’s obviously the enclave right but the enclave didn’t as a whole know when the bombs would be dropped enclave members got killed by the bombs and they think themselves that China launched first F.E.V has been mentioned and most likely the experiment behind vaults 32 and 33 were F.E.V (cos like future enterprise ventures) related but like when the two overseers spoke they said the experiments were off ya know ya know and showing the deathclaw as being used pre war when coop sees it most likely they were being tested there but not actually dropped on China yet like they planned to the show is sorta setting up the reveal of these weapons at the same time as the reveal of who dropped the bombs if you were China and you got hit by F.E.V and deathclaws you would likely fire the nukes righttttt and the people behind those weapons would be responsible for the nukes being shot rightttt if anyone read all the way down pls drop any like evidence or theories for or against this I would love to hear what you think gang members ||

My theory ^

[graceful rose]

Ngl was shocked at what happened at the end

[slim night]

Hush hush hush lol

[nimble pike]

Hey why. What if find strange is that in lore, im not sure of course but think that we have proof that they were not the first to launch

Is so difficult to be sure of anything now ! Wow this show is destroying but also creating so much lore 😂
The credits of the episode makes me aske to myself so much questions !

[red forge]

"destroying" is a matter of perspective.

[nimble stream]

|| the enclave think China did it ||

[red forge]

And depends on what you mean by it.

[nimble stream]

I’m loving all the additions to the lore and stuff the show is great

[nimble pike]

But can ghouls resist to that king of damage ? We kill them like normal humans in the games

[red forge]

Gameplay =/= what will be the case in the show.

[nimble pike]

Oh yes of course, just using the word because many fans of Vegas factions use it so i dont want to hurt anyone's feelings ahah

[red forge]

There's lots of things we can do in game, that cannot be adapted to the show.

[tidal tendon]

Please keep in mind that some have not seen the newest episodes, or this season at all, so please remember to use spoilers when revealing stuff! Thanks!

[red forge]

This is the whole debacle over a matter of argument of whose head canon is correct.

[nimble pike]

Oh i see, it's just that wow Coop have so serious wounds like at the end of this episode, surviving from that, even for a ghoul wow

[red forge]

And it kills civil discussion.

[nimble pike]

Oh yes sorry, im trying but i dont understand how it works
Im on mobile and i dont find where to apply the spoiler tag

[woven scaffold]

Type || on both ends of your sentence to spoiler it.

[tidal tendon]

If your mobile keyboard doesn't have || symbols on it, just copy and paste them from here.

[nimble pike]

I totally agree and i wish i could thanks all the team of the show for the story but also for the decor ! Wow it's so realistic ! Peoples have so much talents

[red forge]

I've always understood that ||China was implied to be responsible, from the beginning, as in FO1 beginning. I haven't played much of the earlier games yet, so am very limited knowledge on the lore, but that's how I've understood it.||

[woven scaffold]

Not really. It's very ambiguous and both sides were always indicated to be at fault.

[red forge]

Well that's why I said implied here.

[nimble pike]

Seems very dangerous for both sides to be the first. It means to condamn the world of certain death

[red forge]

Like I said, I don't know enough about the lore of the earlier games, but that's what I always understood.

[plain portal]

Or the square triangle star button on left before typing

[nimble stream]

|| I’m pretty sure the implication of China being responsible is just cause the enclave believe it was China and house implied the people responsible for causing the nuclear war are the people behind deathclaws plus with the F.E.V mention my running theory is that America used non nuclear weapons of mass destruction FEV and deathclaws etc that then prompted China to use nuclear ones that caused the world to end that way it lines up China DID strike first but America/the mysterious group behind deathclaws/ the enclave DID cause the exchange by using them ||

[tidal tendon]

I don't really use Discord on my phone much. Only to reply to DND group stuff when I'm not home for the most part lol.

[plain portal]

I do hope they make maximus is ncr Anti-deathclaw power armor action figure

[sterile torrent]

My phone is basically my kindle. I only read books on it lol

[abstract sleet]

||The facts is that it's basically unknown. China is because of Tim Cain's thoughts but it's not exactly canon so it's basically a matter of mystery||

[tidal tendon]

I haven't seen the new episode yet, so I am going to pretend I didn't see half the stuff on this channel today lol. I still have to moderate it so all the spoilers are revealed for me. That's not to say yall aren't free to talk about it, but I will be doing quite a lot of conveniently forgetting things lol.

[plain portal]

Dont worry I didn't spoiler anything

[abstract sleet]

All good 🙂

[woven scaffold]

You guys remember when Maximus rode in on the Zetan spaceship with The Master and No-Bark in the back and saved Lucy?

[nimble stream]

From easy Pete

[woven scaffold]

He was Difficult Pete then.

[tidal tendon]

sometimes hard to tell. When something is spoilered for me it has a grey highlight on my Discord's black background lol

[nimble stream]

Difficult Peter to be exact

[plain portal]

It all good

[analog iron]

damn this chapter

honor mention ||hank maclean is a twisted dale cooper once more||

[vale girder]

He is DEAD

RIP to everyone’s GOAT

Can we have a minutes silence

[woven scaffold]

Who?

My GOAT is Harold.

[vale girder]

https://tenor.com/view/paying-respect-hands-crossed-a-moment-of-silence-last-flag-flying-last-flag-flying-gifs-gif-10102316

[vale girder]

Damn you…. He isn’t even cold yet!!

Damn that was a good episode

Best one yet of all seasons

That scene of coop riding the Atomic Bomb Bull was iconic

Like Leonardo da Vinci himself arose from the dead for one last stroke of the brush

[fierce rune]

this week's episide is p good ngl

||also its p weird seeing house with the cold fusion core... if we theoretically say that the cfc is stolen or got out of house's hands, is it technically why he needed that platinum chip in fnv?||

[analog iron]

||the platinum chip is for upgrade his technology, the fusion core is for a new body for him||

[last garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-donor-kebab-gone-gif-12818198

[stoic burrow]

I'm wondering if the ghoul dropped a big hint in latest episode: || He mentions a mgmt vault in Oregon .. could that be where FO5 will be since the show is canon and FO5 supposedly will be related or affected by the show?||

[analog iron]

||its more like a reference for fo76||

[vivid meadow]

Time to watch the new episode

[stoic burrow]

how so?

[livid wasp]

Did they just retcon the day the bombs dropped or am I wrong?

[orchid lake]

Likewise

[stoic burrow]

i didn't take it that way || house is guessing based on what data he has and there is an unknown player at the table||

[livid wasp]

Damn his calculations were way off then and my guess is the unknown player is the enclave

[stoic burrow]

also wondering || Hank wanted the ghoul to take Lucy back to V33 .. doesn't Hank know the next phase for those 2 vaults was F.E.V.? Did he want that for his little sugar bomb?||

[tawny sage]

||It's likely the next phase was a long ways out||

[orchid lake]

Thank god all this is spoilered

[stoic burrow]

i'm trying my best to not give anything away 🙂

[strong pine]

or from the institute

[plain portal]

||We seen her wake up in management vault wearing a yellow dress and driving the golf cart plus she walk past rows of people it was in a trailer||

[frozen bramble]

Wait, is episode 5 out already ? I thought it only dropped at night

[stoic burrow]

nope been dropping them at like 12am PST I think it is ..

[livid wasp]

How does that make any sense in the slightest

[frozen bramble]

Oh fr? I could've watched it before leaving for work then

[stoic burrow]

agree from trailers || but the deal was for her to go back "home" to V33, but her impaling the ghoul on that pole kinda changed hank's plans i think :)||

[frozen bramble]

Well I know what I'm watching as soon as I get home

[stoic burrow]

I watch them twice ,, 2nd time with CC on so I don't miss any dialog 🙂

[strong pine]

||plot twist||

[stoic burrow]

question now is || Since the ghoul revealed he planned to use lucy as a pawn .. and trailers seem to show her in the vault with hank .. will she reunite the ghoul with his family .. or not since he betrayed her ...||

[frozen bramble]

I think she will help him as she keeps highlighting how she's not like him.

But I've only seen through episode 4 so what do I know?

She's just overly helpful to a fault and even if she has issues with Cooper, she'd likely still help him reunite with his family regardless. If not for him specifically than at least for his family. Because family is important to her.

That's just my 2 cents of course. She's not particularly spiteful like he is.

[crisp grail]

that was great ! Answered a whole ton of questions and opened up even more! tho trying to wrap my head around some stuff at 3am ... weeeeee

[stoic burrow]

|| The ghoul has a comment on family you'll find interesting in Ep5 :)||

[loud knoll]

||Bethesda executive producer Todd Howard has confirmed that Fallout 5 will officially canonize the Prime Video TV adaptation||

||https://www.gamesradar.com/games/fallout/fallout-5-will-exist-in-the-same-universe-as-the-amazon-prime-tv-show-says-todd-howard/||

[acoustic cypress]

||is the ghoul dead 😢||

[stoic burrow]

|| which makes me wonder if FO5 needs to be somewhat in the vacinity of where the show takes place .. and the ghoul does mention Oregon as having an empty mgmt vault||

[stoic burrow]

|| tis but a scratch .. i expect he'll live after they cut down that pole he's stuck on ||

[crisp grail]

https://tenor.com/view/black-knight-draw-monty-python-gif-8453752444373485023

[frozen bramble]

I wonder how that's going to work given that they didn't want to canonize any one specific new Vegas ending when making the 2nd season

[vivid meadow]

||Did the ghoul die? Ghouls can’t just regenerate a spine and also how would anyone get him off the pole||

[minor lark]

||we see in the trailer for the season hes talking to a House face on the terminal in the Lucky 38. Hes alive||

[vivid meadow]

||I think they might just give him super regeneration from radiation or something ||

[minor lark]

We still have to see his storyline finished with his family. Hes not gone yet

[vivid meadow]

Yeah but again, how does he survive that

[minor lark]

His plot armor is strong

[vivid meadow]

His spine should be completely shattered

[minor lark]

'Fallout magic' radiation and drugs will end up being the answer.

[vivid meadow]

Is it just me or could the whole death-claw thing have been cut and the episode wouldn’t have changed.

[frozen badger]

||nothing a few rads cant fix||

[vivid meadow]

The whole addiction plot could have been too

[frozen badger]

Its fun and showcases a game mechanic

[vivid meadow]

These episodes are too short imo and its like the plot barely progresses each episode

[vivid meadow]

But it also has the problem of just feeling like a game mechanic and not a real issue for the characters.

She was medicated while injured, suddenly has a drug addiction, gets hyper and kills ghouls, cures her addiction

[frozen bramble]

Hope they come out and say what caused the Kings to become feral ghouls in the first place though. I mean I suspect it was the nuke dropped on Shady sands but I don't know if that's too far away from New Vegas to matter or not

[vivid meadow]

The kings reside in freeside and we see the kings school still has its sign up

So likely those are just some kings who went off on their own

I hope coop actually gets to meet his family at the end of the season instead of saving it for season 3

[crisp grail]

has to be a reason they dont go inside the lucky 38 and instead go to freeside

[vivid meadow]

I have a theory about the victims of incest club

[frozen bramble]

The last one killed had that guitar on his back though...

[runic relic]

it is, its too obvious

[vivid meadow]

||since FEV is confirmed to be part of vault 33s experiment i believe the vault will be infected and that the inbred vault dwellers will become dumb supermutants due to their genetic defects while the others will become intelligent supermutants||

[frozen bramble]

I suppose it would depend on the type of FEV used. There were multiple different strains.

Plus it's only a few years after the events of the game. There's definitely super mutants already wandering the desert and mountains anyway. Including the Nightkin.

FEV can turn people into talking trees as an example

[strong sinew]

Flea soup lady yelling "If you find any money on the body, it's mine!" killed me

[spring basin]

I want them to show us atleast 1 nightkin, but I have a feeling they'll skip that.

[mighty geyser]

||Moldaver really acting like the enclave in that pre war scene at the airport ||

[minor lark]

I have nothing to back it up but, ||I think the 'rough voice' we hear in the trailer that people think is a super mutant is Norm after the Enclave storm his vault, capture the wandering dwellers, and infects him with FEV||

[autumn jay]

So at the end of the episode we || see houses pod, is his body dead then? Since there’s a hand out of the pod? Or was that his body double in the pod that we killed in NV? ||

[vivid meadow]

I saw a theory stating that she is one

[mighty geyser]

I doubt it, she has very communistic views and we all know that organization absolutely despises those types of people

[vivid meadow]

How else could she have had access to a cryopod to freeze herself for 200 years

[mighty geyser]

Well she did develop cold fusion, only other person to do that was Braun

[vivid meadow]

And she defected from the company she worked for

[mighty geyser]

It’d be an interesting plot point, but I’m more upset they are probably going to decimate any chances of having ||a reformed enclave in any other fallout game||

[vivid meadow]

Reformed enclave?

[mighty geyser]

Colonel autumns view on the enclave

[vivid meadow]

Reformed enclave members already integrated into society like arcade gannon

[autumn jay]

I’m also happy to || see free side so alive. Hopefully house can get the strip back up and running ||

[vivid meadow]

The ones who still associate with the enclave are going to stay evil

[rain matrix]

😦

[mighty geyser]

No I mean an enclave that actually protects wastelanders and lets them join their ranks. Compared to every major faction they are all evil in may different ways

[rain matrix]

Dude ||the ending has me in shock|| 😦

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-stare-disappointed-gif-13848065843414333862

[mighty geyser]

That’s why I said colonel autumns enclave because he broke away from Eden as he was going to a complete outsider to do the dirty work he didn’t want completed

[vivid meadow]

Using wastelanders isn’t accepting them tho. Its like when the khan women think the legion will accept them

[nimble pike]

Yes i totally agree. I would love to see an enclave reformist taking power.
That could make an excellent plot. Unfortunatly, the only little piece of the enclave we see, seems to clearly show us that if the enclave is still active, they still are the ruthless purist as they ever been

[mighty geyser]

Nah, but it’d make a great plot, think about it, the enclave know they don’t have the power they did in fallout 2, they have to make changes based on logical reasoning, you can’t destroy the wasteland if you don’t number more than 2,000 people, now it may be that the show tells us there are more than the 3 main enclave bases, and that the enclave were way bigger than we once thought.

[mighty geyser]

Yeah, that’s probably the route, can’t have the literal coolest faction be a good guy for once, but I guess in fallout there are no real good guys, they are literally all bad guys, what Maximus said in season 1 at shady sands ruins really drives home that point I’m trying to make.

[crisp grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/999779635871101060/1461083054859878431/image.png?ex=69694321&is=6967f1a1&hm=f73a4b63a08adcb8c50c12ccfa0e6fd6a69e29ad4f4eb04a29ca89a1b46ca7cf&

Whoa

[nimble pike]

Unfortunatly yes, we cant see Fallout as White or Black.
It's an alternate version of our World so there is no fully good or fully bad things
But the enclave stays my favorite faction ahah

[plush quest]

This ep spectacularly addressed my main concerns with the previous episodes pacing wise

The fewer storylines felt much tighter and we got more of them

[cerulean warren]

so I just burst into tears, completely... will copper Howard live? or not? it really got to me, 🥹🥹🥺🥺😭😭

[plush quest]

That’s recoverable

For a ghoul anyway

I loved how they depicted addictol. Just puke the drugs out lol

The cinematography this ep was also great

[versed path]

Just finished the new episode..best one yet.

[versed path]

One of the top 3 main characters..i think he'll be ok

Im just wondering how he's gonna get down.

[cerulean warren]

Do you think he'll survive? He was my favorite character. 🥺😭

[plush quest]

Just climb the pole till you’re free 🤷

[versed path]

one of the 3 most important characters to the plot so yeah i say he'd be fine

[versed path]

Idk man..he was whinin and groanin pulling rad scorpion venom out of himself

[plush quest]

Man has high END

[versed path]

Pulling yourself up a giant pole won't be too pleasent

[plush quest]

also Lucy apparently has high Sneak considering she was able to shoplift and sneak up on the ghoul

[cerulean warren]

I hope he survives. 🥺🥺 I really liked him as a ghoul.

[versed path]

|| not a HUGE fan how house conviently has the cold fusion set up behind the bookshelves but, beggers can't be choosers ||

[plush quest]

||Also “Sonny” being dumb but not entirely dumb was hilarious. “Lots of people rob a store naked!” Implying he was naked when he robbed the store||

||Which is why he’s wearing Sonny’s clothing||

[versed path]

||Also! They confirmed yesman I think as the true ending..?||

||The bartender when talking about change in management mentioned robots taking over.||

[cerulean warren]

I hope Copper Howard survives. 🥺

[plush quest]

||FISTO|| cameo

[versed path]

I was literally saying that LMAO

I was praying it was him before it even cut over.

[plush quest]

The Chicken clucker was a nice surprise this episode. Plot relevant too!

I’m wondering how The Ghoul|| is planning to save his family now that his main bargaining chip is gone||

[versed path]

||My theory is if YESMAN is canon, The courier went off with his securitron army to maybe go establish new territory, leading to not as much protection||

[versed path]

https://tenor.com/view/cp2077-cyberpunk-cyberpunk-2077-johnny-silverhand-keanu-reeves-gif-3398276511799747919

[plush quest]

I’m glad they didn’t really get into it. The Ghoul is as uninterested in the canon ending as I am lol

[versed path]

||I frickin knew it was gonna be FEV.||

[plush quest]

Im waiting for the Legion storyline to pick back up

||Also the show retconned itself making the majority of Raiders we’ve seen Khans?||

[versed path]

||House knew about the enclave while they were still incredibly secret..its quite impressive even if he doesn't REALLY know.||

[plush quest]

||I’m honestly legitimately surprised he wasn’t a member of the enclave already||

[versed path]

||Enclave was mostly government so.||

[plush quest]

||And it’s really freaking him out. Really boosts the Enclave in their threat level, pre-war anyway||

[versed path]

||The man who knows just about everything has not a single clue about this extremely large factor, i'd be scared too.||

[plush quest]

||Enclave was corrupt government working with corporate interests and executives||

||I always assumed House was one of those interests, along with the leaders of other corporations like Wes-Tek||

[cerulean warren]

Guys, do you think Copper Howard will survive??

[versed path]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-oh-my-god-bruh-saleswoman-oh-my-god-bruh-gif-2398788864743270124

[vapid kestrel]

E5: ||I'm dissapointed lucy didn't punch hank with her power fist, it feels like she should have been able to||

[versed path]

|| House don't gaf tho 😭||

[plush quest]

sleep does that to ya

[versed path]

||House literally has 0 interest in vault-tecs plan and is literally just trying to prevent it on his side||

[vapid kestrel]

||idk, she was able to recover enough (assumedly because she accidentally took jet, not buffout[I have no proof]), to hit the ghoul, but could also be because it hadn't kicked in all the way||

[versed path]

||Addictol. She took Addictol||

[vapid kestrel]

||I was under the impression she took the wrong one and that's why she was able to withstand it|| (again, no proof)

[plush quest]

||Nah that was definitely addictol. In-game and irl it takes few seconds for sleep darts to kick in||

[versed path]

||I think she's just strong like that.||

[vapid kestrel]

I see I see

[plush quest]

The complaints about NV being empty and lack civilization were destroyed this ep

[versed path]

||My big question is like..why was NOBODY in the atomic wrangler||

[plush quest]

Still wondering why all The Kings turned into ghouls though

There were a few people. Maybe they didn’t have an act going and everyone was at work

There were a lot of people working in the background. Ever been to a strip club at 1pm on a Wednesday?

[versed path]

can't say i have man

[plush quest]

It’s kinda lack that. Mostly empty except a few barflies or employees in the background

[cerulean warren]

He remembers one scene from the trailer, Copper will survive.

[plush quest]

Had to deliver to one as a delivery driver once. They tipped well

[cerulean warren]

Can I send this scene here? Do you mind? It's from yt

[frozen badger]

||she punched the ghoul before the tranq fully kicked in, when Hank visits her she's too weak to do anything||

[vivid meadow]

Yes, because he’s mascot of the show

Is the vault tech hotel we see prewar supposed to be vault 21 or a separate thing?

[tacit lantern]

They added a fisto cameo lol

[crisp grail]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-nv-fisto-fisto-fallout-new-vegas-fallout-gif-25004812

[vivid meadow]

Does anyone else think that the vault hank is using is just a secret part of vault 21 behind the parts mr house sealed up with concrete?

[fossil thicket]

Do you think cooper and barb are divorced at the start of the series ?

[vivid meadow]

Maybe thats the reason coop never found the management vault in vegas, cause it was hidden inside a run of the mill vault

[fossil thicket]

When the bombs fall, why would he do that kind of work (seemingly for pennies?)

[vivid meadow]

She still uses his last name, and he always says “my family” and never just “my daughter”

[fossil thicket]

One of the fathers even makes a comment about him being broke

It still seems weird to me

[vivid meadow]

He probably cut his ties with vault tec and got blacklistes from hollywood

[fossil thicket]

Yeah, I guess

[vivid meadow]

Don’t the 2 guys at the party call him a commie

[grizzled gate]

I figure Barb is gonna find out everything he's been doing behind the scenes and Vault-Tec is gonna smear him.

He might still think that a Vault is safer than the literal end of the world, and get his daughter to her and an executive Vertibird or something, then get ditched.

[vivid meadow]

I hope coop actually reunites with his family in season 2

[vivid meadow]

He can just become a better person and want to fight back against vault tech/the enclave as his second chance after failing to stop save the world the first time

[wraith goblet]

Same, I’m still hoping for more seasons like I heard, hope nothing has changed plans

[clever harbor]

Omfg these cliffhangers at every single episode have me on the ducking edge

The week long wait for the next episodes has me on my knees

[bold copper]

Did not care for this episode.

It was bland and just another episode for us to say “hey we know that from the games”. That would be fine except every episode feels like filler and disjointed.
Im glad they spent more time with lucy and coop but even those scenes were mid at best.
I really really want to love this show. I want it to give me what i felt watching season 1.
Unfortunately the spark is not there for me. Im glad it is for others.

[glacial bridge]

I unfortunately agree. It’s starting to feel like they’re going to have to rush to wrap up all the storylines this season with only 3 episodes left.

[wooden narwhal]

Cooper Howard is a Free States supporter.

/keep at it 🇺🇸

[bold copper]

The dates for the bombs dropping is months off since we know they drop in oct not april or march.
The raptors from jurassic park cosplaying as deathclaws was goofy

[hallow sail]

In the following 50k word essay i will explain what is wrong with in the first 15 mins of today's episode /s

[wooden narwhal]

"hold onto your butts' ..

[hallow sail]

then i will publish a book called "everything wrong with Amazon Prime's fallout tv show" /s

and i'll make money!

[wooden narwhal]

Amorons Prime*

[bold copper]

Im sure the dates are going to be wrong in the show. They decided to use mathematics to predict those dates instead of the assaultron that actually is the one that predicts the bombs dropping

[hallow sail]

can i put you down for a pre-ordeR?

[wooden narwhal]

Spelled it wrong again ... (jj lol)

[hallow sail]

would you like to pre-order my book? "everything wrong with Amazon Prime's fallout tv show"

[bold copper]

If you write it let me know

[hallow sail]

or would you like to contribute to it?

i mean i was going to go with one page "EVERYTHING" but it seems a bit short don't you think?

[bold copper]

I plan on doing a youtube video that illustrates how the fallout universe is actually putgatory and no one survived the bombs dropping

[hallow sail]

i mean the stitching on the vault suits, the lack of accents, the coloring of the radroachs

[vivid meadow]

They need longer episodes. It feels like nothing happens every week because they have to progress 4 plotlines at a time in 45-55 minutes

[cerulean warren]

Thank you @vivid meadow 🥹❤️

[hallow sail]

i'm not even why i keep watching, so much is PLAIN WORNG, am i hate watching at this point?

[vivid meadow]

?

[wooden narwhal]

HEY! I resent that. The Radroaches I think they did edit them personally to appeal to my standards.

[vivid meadow]

Whats wrong in particular?

[wooden narwhal]

As long as they're delicious is all I care aboot.

[hallow sail]

scrolls back though chat and points

[cerulean warren]

I just replied to the message.

[bold copper]

I like coop and his past, but it feels wrong for a fallout story. We are not supposed to know everything that led up to the bombs dropping, just hints.
The show is giving us to much of a peak behind the curtains

[hallow sail]

i mean if i scrolled to the start of this chat with all the complaints i could have two books

[wooden narwhal]

It does take away the oppurtunity for there to be a pre-fallout game to fill in the detail.

[bold copper]

The deathclaws reenacting the scene out of Jurassic park kind of turned me off some

[wooden narwhal]

Not too much detail. - i hope

[vivid meadow]

Im ngl the vault suits look ugly in almost every game. In the show they actually look good

[wooden narwhal]

Add a Mentos Theme to it, you'll be alright.
"Do do do, do do, do waaa"

[hallow sail]

tbh, i was mostly riffing on how this chat feels

[bold copper]

I dont know if it is true but i saw an article that said there will only be 1 more fallout game so if it is true then no prequel game

[hallow sail]

and how based on this chat, everything is wrong

[wooden narwhal]

"It doesn't matter what comes, fresh goes better in life, with Mentos fresh and full of life!" ...

[hallow sail]

at one degree or naother

[vivid meadow]

I dont like that they moved shady sands to LA, and ignore the existence of major settlements and ncr territory in LA in favor of having their new town “filly” and keeping the wasteland desolate

[hallow sail]

i mean blue doesn't seem like it would be house's color

[bold copper]

Using the star wars clone wars loyalty chip in the back of the neck is something i dont like.

[vivid meadow]

I dont mind choosing a canon ending for new Vegas or fallout 4 honestly

[wooden narwhal]

"Nothing gets to you. Staying fresh, staying cool. With Mentos, fresh and full of life!"

(Then end it with Lucy popping some Buffout) -after sliding under the gate

[bold copper]

They should of had coop lose his hate and have to grab it quick

[wooden narwhal]

"Fresh goes better. Mentos freshness. Fresh goes better. With Mentos, fresh and full of life!"

• Mentos, the freshmaker! (shows a bottle of Buffout)

Someone get on making that Meme plz&ty

[bold copper]

Lucy at the end had a personality change that didnt work. What she did was not her.

[wooden narwhal]

She's an NPC, not like Mximus who seems to be a Player Character.

[crisp grail]

eh, ||she just got told by someone she was growing to like that he was lying to her the whole time and using her and even tho she took the addictol, shes gotta be not feeling great||

[bold copper]

||||That was after. Before he said that to her, the man said her father would kill his family if he didnt take her back.
She told him dont listen to the man and take her anyways knowing his entire reason for going was his wife and daughter.
Lucy would of taken the threat serious and tried to work out some lame way of saving them.||||

||If the everything happened and was said prior to her response then sure||

[hallow sail]

why do lucy and coop keep being idoits and not grabbing eveyrthing to sell to get caps?

so stupid

[wooden narwhal]

Cause they're NPC's.

[hallow sail]

did the writers NOT play the game?

[bold copper]

Coop always seems to have money

[hallow sail]

i mean not one of them is carrying a fan

[wooden narwhal]

NOW", Maximus would take advantage of it.

(nibbles on some popcorn) -while wearing a vault-tech bath robe

[bold copper]

Best part of season 2 for me is maximus and the others walking through the warehouse clearing rooms. Wish there was more of that then i wouldnt be bored

[hallow sail]

screw chara devlopment and tlaking...more shooting

more shooty less talky

[bold copper]

Yea

[wooden narwhal]

Me likey mc'shoot shoot

[bold copper]

Pew pew

[hallow sail]

https://tenor.com/view/ot-movie-cat-gun-bang-gif-9889809122388915984

less expoistion and more pew pew

[vivid meadow]

I think barb and coop are going to come to an agreement and but publicly divorced for the sake of barbs career at vault tec so janey can get a spot in the best vault

[hallow sail]

who cares WHY, just shoot

[bold copper]

I dont think by this point barb likes him. Too many scenes prior shows us her growing distance from him.

If they try to pass it off as some attempt as deception then that is bad writing.

We see her acting towards him in private. Her being a trusted high level doesnt make sense yo be spied on awhile the 2 do it in the bedroom.

Enjoy all, im going to get going for awhile.

[vivid meadow]

She’s literally comforting him with his head on her lap after the party. And i don’t recall her distancing herself from him but the opposite.

[unreal zealot]

Why are the episodes in the new fallout tv series either terrible or masterpieces?

There is no inbetween

[orchid lake]

Gonna watch the next episode soon

[unreal zealot]

Like this episode was amazing, and the 2 prior episodes were awful

[orchid lake]

Any Enclave stuff in it?

[unreal zealot]

I liked it a lot. It def gave me back my hope for the tv show again

[unreal zealot]

😉

[orchid lake]

[vivid meadow]

Hints but no direct mentions

[orchid lake]

Murica raaaaaaaaaaaah

[unreal zealot]

Very big hints

Like what else could House be referring to

It can only be the Enclave

[vivid meadow]

“The house always wins, but what if i’m not the house”
-Robert house in the latest episode

[unreal zealot]

House was not as i expected ngl. He seemed scared

[unreal zealot]

Let’s just say some of the Vault Tec executives actually work for someone/something else

[vivid meadow]

He wants to be able to predict everything and be ahead of the game but in the end he couldnt predict when the bombs would fall and failed to save all of vegas,

[unreal zealot]

Yeah

[vivid meadow]

Tbh how did he not predict my courier betraying him and killing all his securitrons. Shouldve been obvious seeing how much work i was doing for the ncr

[orchid lake]

Raaaaah yes

[unreal zealot]

Fallout games plotholes. Don’t think about it

[crisp grail]

some people are just miserable human beings and dont like things

[orchid lake]

Alright here we gooooo

[unreal zealot]

Nah bro you can agree with me that the two prior episodes were pretty boring and disappointing

[crisp grail]

i loved them

[unreal zealot]

This one was good

I think it’s because every episode has it’s own director

[vivid meadow]

Its lowkey not that good and carried by hype over a lack of other meaningful projects kinda like starfield /s

nah the show is good but has some noticeable flaws

[orchid lake]

Holy crap like 4 deathclaws popped up

[unreal zealot]

The brotherhood of steel part of this series is lame

More like brotherhood of sodomy

[orchid lake]

Alright this should be fun

[unreal zealot]

Some episodes are amazing, some episodes are awful

[vivid meadow]

They were great in season 1 but season 2 makes them look stupid and fails to explain their ideology so their desire to kill ghoul kids just seems out of left field to give maximus a quick reason to defect

[orchid lake]

Be back later, also omg Freeside!!!

[unreal zealot]

I’m glad Maximus bombed them.

He’s a great character that is stuck in an awful plot point

[vivid meadow]

You’d think the cleric would be able to teach his disciple why he should want to kill ghoul kids instead of just screaming “abominations”

[unreal zealot]

The characters in this tv show are built around the game mechanics.

Maximus has zero charisma and speech, which likely causes the cleric to get extra angry when he tells him what he did

[vivid meadow]

He could have said something about how some of them might not even be able to grow up due to the severity of their mutation, and how they’re a reminder of the dangers of technology and how its impossible to make their perfect society with ticking time bombs that should be put out of their misery.

[unreal zealot]

One of the things people criticize this tv show about is stupid. The characters are like this because they’re supposed to represent specific character builds

[vivid meadow]

Nah he wasn’t definitely charizzing up lucy last season

[unreal zealot]

I don’t think he’d do that with a guy with 1 charisma

[unreal zealot]

“Can you make my meat explode”

[vivid meadow]

Maximus has 1 int not 1 charisma

[unreal zealot]

Def 1 charisma too lol

[wooden narwhal]

When you realize ..
A Cliffhanger is just another Loading Screen.

[vivid meadow]

Thats 1 int. Literally from his lack of formal sex education

He doesn’t understand human anatomy, but she was still into him

[hallow sail]

i can't believe they used the FO4 design for the Power Fist instead of the FONV one! dumb todd thinking NV doesn't exist

[unreal zealot]

He literally fails every speech bubble

[vivid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/lucy-maximus-fallout-fallout4-you-want-to-have-sex-gif-6956868246332618405

[wooden narwhal]

Thinking doesn''t pay the bills. 🗞️

[orchid lake]

Ok just got to the part where it's pre war now

Already loving this episode

[wooden narwhal]

Cold or Hot, it's still War.
-War never changes

[orchid lake]

Got me all excited

[vivid meadow]

Bro literally BSed his way to second in command at the brotherhood after failing his mission, letting his boss die, disobeying protocol and losing the artifact to the enemy.

Also losing company equipment

[strong pine]

if its the people who created the deathclad - wouldn't it be ||Enclave. . . . . ||

[orchid lake]

Ding ding ding

[vivid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-kyle-lady-jessica-gif-18205908

[crisp grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/999779635871101060/1461136063102845009/SPOILER_IMG_1061.png?ex=69697480&is=69682300&hm=889430c48896a195727432396961dc0776b71dee93630e689c589108e02a0b1f&

from the end slides

[orchid lake]

Wanamingo!?

[crisp grail]

a certain pod

[vivid meadow]

What is that? A mirelurk?

[orchid lake]

Oh... Oh god

House is an AI! His real body is dead!

[crisp grail]

BUT, there is big questions weather those end slides are canon to the story they are telling or just the visual effects team having fun

[vivid meadow]

Nvm thats house

[orchid lake]

I hope it's the former because so far the ending slides have actually given some good context

[crisp grail]

should of had a golf club laying on the ground next to it

[orchid lake]

Lmaoooo

Man Vegas Pre War looks amazing

Omg the securitrons looks awesome

Omg that poor Congresswoman got thrown by the MP's

It's House's body double!

Victor!

Mr House!!!

Ooooh he knows

It's the chicken dude

[slim night]

You’re spoiling my guy lol

[orchid lake]

Sorry

[slim night]

Some people haven’t watched the episode yet.

[orchid lake]

||Fistooooo||

||Hank!||

||OMG Cooper's Family!!!!!!||

[wooden narwhal]

||Cliffhanger = Loding Screen||

[crisp grail]

poor tato was trying to mod this channel at like 4am U.S. time and after not watchiing it yet 😂

[orchid lake]

||Holy crap it worked!||

[wooden narwhal]

||⚙️ Loading ...||

[orchid lake]

This episode is so amazing and has me so hooked omg

[wooden narwhal]

Got you stuck in the ||Loading Screen||too, huh?

[hybrid moon]

so is everything in the show canon?

[wooden narwhal]

From what has been told, "Yes".

[orchid lake]

||looks like the 31'ers found an old VT HQ, this is getting interesting||

[hybrid moon]

then why did Overseer Barstow (FO4 vault 88) never go feral?

[wooden narwhal]

Todd Howard 🗞️

[orchid lake]

||I'm liking this||

||Enclave mentioned!!!!||

[wooden narwhal]

||These Loading Screens are amazing, I know||

Todd Howard right now be like))

||So how does it feel to be stuck in an IRL Loding Screen you bast..... ||-hah hahah

[orchid lake]

||oof, inflation hit Sonny's hard||

[tawdry field]

FISTO is back!!!!!!!!!!!

Shut the hell up stupid dyno

[orchid lake]

Ik this episode is awesome I'm enjoying it so much rn

||ooooh come on Lucy not the power fist||

[tawdry field]

Well my theory that coopers family died in shady sands wasnt true thank goodness

[orchid lake]

Oh god Sonny's dead

[tawdry field]

spoil one more thing and I'll curse you with alpha deathclaws fighting as your first random encounter in fallout 4

[orchid lake]

||and now I'm getting very interested in seeing this convo between Cooper and House and it's awesome and super interesting||

[tidal moat]

In the new episode, why is there two ||Mr houses ||

[orchid lake]

||Omg the lore drops and exposition is getting insane||

[wooden narwhal]

Same reason there are stunt doubles.

[tidal moat]

Is one like the business man and one the mastermind

[orchid lake]

||Did they just retcon the date of the great war?||

[wooden narwhal]

||Stunt Doubles job is to take part on the action so the main character actor is unharmed||

[tidal moat]

Ah. That explains it, thanks

[tawdry field]

Theory, the radroaches in the roach farm aren't radroaches but a mirelurk

Radroaches do NOT pack that much of a punch

The thing was PUNCHING that elevator barricade

[orchid lake]

||Omg House is talking about the Enclave holy crap omfg ahhhhh||

[wooden narwhal]

||F.E.V. Super Mutants soon™||

[tawdry field]

Wha

I wanna see danse

[wooden narwhal]

Spoiler tags. There is a reason.

[tawdry field]

Wait a sec where did danse get X-01

The je- i mean the enclave must've gave it to him

[orchid lake]

||Wow that was an insane meeting and I loved all of it, although it looks like they retconned the date of the great war and idk about that||

[wooden narwhal]

Quite possible ||that, some specialized types or later variants might involve FEV or military tinkering. Also, it is mentioned in this recent episode. ||

[tawdry field]

These prices in sonnys is outrageous, 10k caps for a powerfist??? The big boy costed 8000

[orchid lake]

||Guys did they just retcon the date of the great war?||

[tawdry field]

I would kill sonny if he ever did that

[wooden narwhal]

||Future Enterprise Ventures / F.E.V.||

[tidal moat]

Inflation, some get rusty and fall apart

[orchid lake]

||More hints towards the Enclave again||

[wooden narwhal]

And, Yes. ||Future Enterprise Ventures is Military||

[orchid lake]

||Also are they setting up a Norm romance||

[wooden narwhal]

||Maybe - The Ink Spots||

[tawdry field]

I swear this shopkeeper in sonnys is an idiot why would u reach for a gun when theres already one aimed at u

Where even is sonny that aint him

[vivid meadow]

Are they ever gonna explain how people walk around and count 10000 caps in their bags

[wooden narwhal]

Chem Fiends 🗞️

[tawdry field]

Probably a jet head who made the prices

[orchid lake]

Ooooh he's in troubleeee

[tawdry field]

Anyone who makes anything overpriced in the wasteland will taste my pipe.... rifle.

[vivid meadow]

I mean in universe how tf does someone carry 10000 bottle caps with them, they aren’t flat like coins

[orchid lake]

FEV!?

[wooden narwhal]

Could be explained by certain type of Caps have a Value compared to others, as there is a 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 50 & 100 Dollar Bills in USA.

[vivid meadow]

Sunset sarsparilla and nukacola are worth the same, so probably not.

A cap is a cap

Unless its a star cap and thats just cause festus values them

[orchid lake]

Di-did Norm just die?

[wooden narwhal]

Could see Nuka-Cola Classic Sunset Sarsaparilla being the $1 Dollar

Only a theory, could be the reason why we have all these new variants of Nuka-Cola as the games progressively came out.

Could see Quantum as the $100 Cap

[lilac sequoia]

he was choked, he literally gasps for air after

[orchid lake]

And we're back in Freeside and Lucy just cured her addictions

[orchid lake]

Oh I didn't see that part

Poor Lucy is not doing so hot

[vivid meadow]

Nah, pretty sure in the game it just gives you 1 cap for drinking

[wooden narwhal]

Subject to change

[orchid lake]

Omg it's the chicken man being manipulated by Hank!

[tawdry field]

No they did not retconn the start of the great war. It is still October 23rd 2077

[orchid lake]

I'm confused I feel like they did

[vivid meadow]

Also the value would have to be recognized nationally which would be harder to keep track of versus every cap being 1 cap

[tawdry field]

House was trying to confuse and intimidate cooper, his daughter was probably a baby during this time so it fits into October 23rd

[vivid meadow]

The great war doesn’t start when the bombs fall 🥀

[orchid lake]

Uh oh, Cooper's about to betray Lucy

[wooden narwhal]

After time has past, you do have a point.

Though this does take place after Fallout 4.

[tawdry field]

I can tell u haven't played a single game

[orchid lake]

He's not happy about it though

[crisp grail]

this

[orchid lake]

Oooooh Lucy's mad

[vivid meadow]

Are you 1 int? The great war ends when the bombs fall cause thats when the world ends 💀

[tawdry field]

They dont date flashbacks so the daughter was probably a baby when mr house said this, so it doesn't start in 2065 it starts in 2077

[tawdry field]

You just said the bombs falling isnt the great war

[orchid lake]

Cooper is depressed

[tidal moat]

He actually takes a long sharp breath

[tawdry field]

Are you a radroach?

[orchid lake]

Looks like he lost it after meeting House too

[vivid meadow]

You said the bombs falling were the start of the great war, i said they were the end

[tawdry field]

The great war was the nukes hitting the other nations you stupid synthetic gorilla read your lore

[crisp grail]

i was confused as well too ... and extremely sleep deprived

Thankfully, i had some people in chat that helped put it into context

[vivid meadow]

Then what was cooper doing in alaska?

[orchid lake]

Omg Lucy just punched the ghoul to his near death!

And she's out

[tawdry field]

is this ragebait or just a no intelligence playthrough