fallout-tv-series

[livid wasp]

I think the courier kept him for "personal use"

[red forge]

No the sales guy did.

[dusky flicker]

arcade is hot
arcade doesnt like the legion
simple as.

[granite lark]

you can't retcon what happened in fallout 3

[lofty prairie]

Nah if anything hes at the atomic wrangler

[dusky flicker]

google prequel

[granite lark]

so the BoS is the saviour

[livid wasp]

My courier would've kept him i have 0 shame in that

[lofty prairie]

Huh

[granite lark]

yes i know what is a prequel, that's 76

[dusky flicker]

dude they wanna kill everyone in the commonwealth and take their stuff

[red forge]

A faction who is determined the winner is not the same as the "saviour" as you put it.

[dusky flicker]

which is in 76

[granite lark]

the bos in fallout 3 was that

[lofty prairie]

Im so confused

[livid wasp]

At the end of the day isn't it all about personal morals? Whoever ends up wining writes history anyway

[broken juniper]

Genuinely there’s like a 70% chance of him showing up since he showed up in one of those segments of the Fallout Fake Talk Show videos they’ve been posting

[lofty prairie]

Nope they were bad aswell, look at the lives they took.

[torpid ermine]

Let's go right now

[granite lark]

is the white knight saviour complex

[red forge]

That's just how BoS show themselves as is in general. They want to be seen as THE military.

[livid wasp]

Of all the factions in the wasteland the only one id genuinely end up wanting to join would be the followers

[dusky flicker]

yes?? and?? what are you saying lmao
im literally talking about stuff you’re talking about
the pitt is in 76 before the slavers have it, we know what happens, its a hostile take over, thats societal conflict
its doesnt resemble the modern world so its not advancement? what kind of metric is that?
this is what i mean by bad faith.

[lucid mauve]

So maxson is in the tv show

[livid wasp]

He's talked about

[broken juniper]

Just mentioned as of now

[broken juniper]

Republic of Dave will not take kindly to this

[lucid mauve]

I’m just know watching it

[granite lark]

another reason why i would prefer other factions that isn't the BoS

[livid wasp]

I doubt the head of the Commonwealth brotherhood would go all the way to Vegas just to settle a conflict while he's already at war in the Commonwealth unless he really does need that cold fusion to win

[lofty prairie]

He just needs to send prime

[dusky flicker]

what like house or the ncr 💀

[livid wasp]

I don't think prime would do well In the sand tbh

[granite lark]

or the enclave, the minutemen, the institute

[torpid ermine]

The children of atom

[lofty prairie]

Hes American, they practically tamed sand.

[plush quest]

It was the Commonwealth that first sent out the bounty for Wilzig who originally had the Cold Fusion

[granite lark]

nah man, screw the children of atoms, i hate radiations

[torpid ermine]

Oh, I thought you were talking about the show

[livid wasp]

You wouldn't be saying that if u were born immune to it

[torpid ermine]

The children of atom are cool tho

[plush quest]

Harkness wasn't sent there to settle a Civil War, he was sent there to pick up the Cold Fusion

[torpid ermine]

I find it really funny that new vegas is so memeable.
Compared to fallout three or four

[plush quest]

He probably just heard about civil war brewing along the way

[livid wasp]

The children of atom are technically the next step in human restoration in the wasteland since some are born immune to radiation without the problem of ghoulification they just need to get past the religious stuff

[lucid mauve]

Rip brotherhood

[plush quest]

there was a sect of the CoA that worshiped an Ug Qualoth-esque eldritch god

[thick patio]

As a friendly reminder, this channel is for the show itself. Should you wish to discuss the lore, please feel free to do so in the #fallout-lore channel. Also, be sure to use the spoiler tags so not to spoil things for others.

[torpid ermine]

It's too bad they want to set off nukes everywhere again, they can be a problem if written good

[livid wasp]

They just want to spread atoms judgement honestly tho their just like everyone else if they nuked everyone to death again anyone that came from the ashes would just be immune to radiation and trying to do the same thing all over again

[torpid ermine]

I can see them being made into really good bad guys in the show or the next game, trying to get nuclear weapons or cold fusion and everyone has to try to stop them and fight over the arsenal, just spit balling

[lucid mauve]

WTH happened to Vegas

[livid wasp]

Brand new deathclaw sanctuary

[lucid mauve]

Just wondering how it got there

[hallow sail]

just started watching it and 🤣

[broken juniper]

What if Spike shows up in the next episode and replaces dog meat for a while

[hallow sail]

clunk clunk oh okay clunk clunk exactly the same

[torpid ermine]

Actually, good question, is it possible the death claws from quarry junction pulled up?

[lofty prairie]

Probably

[strong pine]

assuming they even know how to write -- most in the wasteland can't read

[lofty prairie]

Tbh most notes Ive seen are in correct punctuated English. Sure it’s barbaric but it’s readable

Who’s teaching these people. Some of the raiders write better than some adults irl.

[strong pine]

written by the robots

[strong pine]

in the show - Valtec administrators

[lofty prairie]

No I mean people outside the vaults. Ive seen raider notes with good English.

[wooden narwhal]

Getting the Nuka-Cola & Sugar Bombs ready!

[dusky flicker]

seeing the ghoul genuinely scared was hilarious

and i like how lucy wasnt really scared (cus she was high) until she saw his face

[red forge]

He's the ghoul definition of sober at the moment, she was roided on buffout.

[dusky flicker]

a deathclaw within a mile of me let alone yards would definitely sober me up

listening to fallout influencers talk about the show on reels makes me claw at my skin

justwatch the .. show.. guys

“what the eff!! why is the strip ruined!!” is not analysis or criticism 😭

like these fans think that incredulity is criticism

[red forge]

Influencers do influencer things for 1 reason - monetization.

They make dramabait material.

[dusky flicker]

new vegas is still in tact? everyone just kinda went to freeside presumably?
victor is still around so we know house is definitely alive?
wtf are people freaking out about?

[red forge]

That the show is not giving them THEIR ending they played.

[marble heron]

It was either going to be house, or ncr. It could still well maybe be NCR. But when shady sands got nuked it may have led to a lot of chaos with the NCR. I mean if in your country, were a major location happened to be nuked wouldn’t those around you be in chaos and panic

A lot can happen in 10 years

Which is what I believe the timeframe was

Edit: 15 years, from 2281 for FNV and it’s 2296? So yeah probably 15 years

[dusky flicker]

“todd wants everything to be a wasteland”
like obsidian didnt write an expansion entirely about how society and nations are doomed to repeat destruction and the only way to break the wheel is to personally choose to be better

[vivid meadow]

Yeah but can’t that destruction wait another couple millennia of human history.

[dusky flicker]

not when there’s two secret orgs who have their own plans for the wasteland and presumably constantly interfere
not when theres wmds underneath rocks while people are stuck with defenses like 200 year old machine guns that are way outclassed by the means of said destruction

the setting is doomed

even visionaries like house commit needless acts of cruelty to further their own goals and maintain ‘spheres of influence’

its not some weird personal vendetta like, wtf do people want from this setting? i just dont get it

[grizzled gate]

Fallout fans when war doesn't change

[dusky flicker]

but they’re never happy when its a non traditional nation state thats advanced it always has to be one that resembles a real world nation or history

[marble heron]

||So wait if the deathclaws were part of prewar government experimentation, then wouldn’t Nate (the Fallout 4 Sole Survivor Nate the Rake kinda guy) have faced one of these before like cooper Howard did and know about them? From what I believe Wasnt Nate stationed in the battle of anchorage Alaska from his time in the army||

[dusky flicker]

i mean if he didnt recognize a ||deathclaw|| then no lol
||deathclaws werent exactly g.i., pretty clandestine project and usage||

like im sure some artillery men in ww2 encountered proximity fuses, but i dont think that means they were commonly known about or talked about, or every artillery man used one

when they were first being used of course, they obviously became crucial to anti air lol

[crisp grail]

I hope Annabel O'Hagan realizes that her name going forward is going to be either "Pirate Mommy" or "Eyepatch girl"

[glass sable]

So season 2 is basically a New Vegas retcon

[lilac sequoia]

its def retconned location wise

While new vegas in game is a downscaled version of the real life Vegas map. Locations have definitely been changed around

[lofty prairie]

Parts of the map has but not the whole game

Honestly the car yard change wasn’t that bad. But the cars being in the strip was a bit confusing.

Love how it’s a deathclaw nest now

[crisp grail]

15 years is a long time

[lofty prairie]

Did anyone find the Lucy becoming and Addict plot line good? I have I think it’s funny and it shows how she’s fitting in to the wasteland. It’d be funny if she became a raider.

[crisp grail]

best part of the series for me

[thick patio]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-your-language-words-talk-dont-be-harsh-derek-luke-gif-15626011

[crisp grail]

was laughing my butt off, made her more like a real player character

[lofty prairie]

Huh what did I do

[crisp grail]

t'was me , not you

[thick patio]

Did I reply to you? No 😜

[lofty prairie]

Oh I thought it was Metabolic argonians annual telling off Jissc day

[crisp grail]

it is a new year....

[lofty prairie]

Mb I thought it’s cuz I said addict

[crisp grail]

there is a scene in the episode 5 preview that she smokes|| jet|| - that makes me even more excited

[dusky flicker]

wait is there a countdown

[crisp grail]

yeah, on the prime page

[thick patio]

All good

[dusky flicker]

eyeballs looking emoji

[lofty prairie]

For what, oh yeah the prime page

It’s countdown for something big

[dusky flicker]

eyeballs looking emoji

[crisp grail]

its not official, but its apaprently NOT a New Vegas remaster

[thick patio]

You say that like I only do it once 😜 Also, I tell everyone off (who breaks the rules)

[crisp grail]

dunno what else it could be, maybe an Amazon related thing?

like not connected to the series, really dunno

[lofty prairie]

Yeah u know im just having a go lol

[dusky flicker]

if its a remaster itll be fallout 3 first chronologically

[crisp grail]

🤞

[dusky flicker]

i will huff that hopium

interesante

[crisp grail]

[lilac sequoia]

i rlly liked how T-45 is kinda smaller

[dusky flicker]

itll probably be like, some merch furniture or something

[lilac sequoia]

like it looks like a small suit you're squeezed into and its uncomfortable

[lofty prairie]

Imagine it’s a announcement that fallout 4 is getting a switch 2 release

[lilac sequoia]

thats already happened

[lofty prairie]

Like ok wonderful who cares lol

[lilac sequoia]

its obv just a location unlock for the ARG probably the Strip

[vivid meadow]

I wish her addiction developed over the course of the season in a single scene

[dusky flicker]

if it is a fallout 3 remaster ill be very big and round and jubilant and pleased

which i already am slaps belly

[thick patio]

https://tenor.com/view/in-shock-shocked-geller-ross-gif-24769590

[lofty prairie]

I will do a backflip of joy if it is. I really wanna see fallout 4 T45 in fallout 3 BoS

[vivid meadow]

I hope they remaster both new vegas and fallout 3 and release it as a single game like the gta definitive editions or the ezio trilogy

[dusky flicker]

there is zero way but absolutely

[lofty prairie]

They gonna remaster 3 NV and tactics and release it all on the same day

[dusky flicker]

we’re getting oblivion with guns before we get oblivion with guns 2 lol

[vivid meadow]

Yeah, bethesda would rather charge $50 each

[dusky flicker]

id pay 50 each tho

[crisp grail]

knowing Todd ... it is 100% going to be a new device to play Skyrim on ( the count down )

[lofty prairie]

It’s probs something lame like a merch drop or something cool like season 3 tease which i could get around. Apparently season 3 is in Chicago.

[vivid meadow]

Yeah, and that’s the reason they’ll charge $50 instead of making it a 2 for 1 deal

[dusky flicker]

all six tactics fans beaming

[lofty prairie]

How Ik this is somebody who lived in Chicago told a news outlet he saw the film crew of fallout on the beach in Chicago

[vivid meadow]

Skyrim for the soulja console

[orchid lake]

Enclave

It's soooo the Enclave

[dusky flicker]

im not gonna apologize for being a consumer man you give me something i wanna buy ill buy it

[lofty prairie]

It’s highly likely but why u think enclave from Chicago lol?

[dusky flicker]

not gonna haggle over fallout 3 remastered, you charge me a baby im putting the lil guy up on the counter like

[vivid meadow]

“I dont care if gta 6 is $100”

[dusky flicker]

well no, cus i dont want gta 6
checkmate

[orchid lake]

They've mentioned having a base there in NV, specifically in ED-E's logs

[lofty prairie]

Ohh ok

[orchid lake]

The Enclave are returning horah

Now they just need to be blown up again

[dusky flicker]

like im not mindless i basically only buy stuff i want
like i didnt buy starfield and i wont buy halo campaign evolved
just. you give me thing i want. then yeah.
im not saying 2 for 1 isn’t a better deal just saying 1 for 1 isn’t out of the question for me.

[tawdry field]

So I just watched Episode 2 of season 2, and I just have to say. WHAT THE HELL THE GHOULS WIFE IS MAXIMUS'S MOM?!?!

Vault tec is such haters shady sands looked so peak

[lofty prairie]

What the ghouls wife is not Maximus mum. Are we watching the same show?

[tawdry field]

Its literally her wdym

[lofty prairie]

Why would Maximus mum be in shady sand when she live 200 years prior? Also they are two different actors

You may have to re watch

[red forge]

No.

[tawdry field]

Did you not watch season one? THEY WERE FROZEN

[lofty prairie]

Nope they weren’t frozen we don’t know what happend to coopers wife

[red forge]

We don't yet know what happened to Cooper's wife, or their kid.

[lofty prairie]

Your watching the wrong show

[red forge]

That's the Ghoul's whole plot arc.

[tawdry field]

Dude literally their pods are empty

[red forge]

He's trying to find them.

[tawdry field]

Re watch season 1

[lofty prairie]

They weren’t in vault 33

[tawdry field]

Their pods are literally empty

[red forge]

That doesn't mean she was actually there.

[lofty prairie]

Yeah

[red forge]

The Ghoul implies he has no idea of her whereabouts.

[lofty prairie]

It was previous overseers

[tawdry field]

It was vault tec executives what're u talking abt

[lofty prairie]

What are you talking about

[red forge]

Bud's buds. She is unlikely to be one.

Vault 31 is Bud's buds.

[tawdry field]

Shes literally one of the top executives

[red forge]

Is his wife's name Julia?

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Julia_(TV_series)
This is Maximus's mother.

So your evidence is just that the pods are all empty? How do you know she was even in there?

[thick patio]

https://tenor.com/view/enough-homelander-the-boys-stop-it-prime-video-gif-18168700487357793138

[red forge]

Thank you.

[orchid lake]

Homelander actually being correct for once

[lofty prairie]

Yeah

[red forge]

Ok I'm done.

[thick patio]

I said that was enough, so knock it off

[lofty prairie]

Ok

[frosty wolf]

It was glitched

I’d say the later

[flat hill]

This series is awesome! The prewar scenes are definitely the best part.
We need a prequel game set entirely during the prewar and then later on in the story, the bombs drop. Kinda like how they did in starfield before you go to the next reality/time warp. And then the rest of the story will be the immediate aftermath of the attack.

[red forge]

To be honest, a game based on prewar, would not be called "Fallout".
There's never been any media in the franchise where anything prewar has not been a flashback or historical documentation.

And I think it's a bit late for them to introduce any time travelling elements that doesn't involve cryo freezing.

Also don't think it's a plot element that's wanted in the Fallout universe.

[hollow oasis]

People are proving themselves as fake fallout fans because they are literally complaining about how ||chems were called drugs...despite that's literally what they've always been called, and if not for age ratings, they'd have kept drugs over chems||

These are the same people that are saying "this is not my fallout". They exposed themselves as fake

[red forge]

||Drugs and chems can be a matter of regional terminology. In Australia, for instance, we don't call medication "drugs", we call it medicine/meds, or often enough we use the product's name as a blanket term. Anything referred to as drugs is basically illicit. This is one of the reasons why morphine in the games is relabelled as Med-X. We also don't use the term "drug store", but instead "pharmacy".||

It's about ||clear distinction between medication, performance enhancers, and illicit drugs.||

[indigo turret]

I finally watched today’s episode phew that was good . Damn when cooper looks scared things are not gonna be smooth.

[lofty prairie]

Unrelated but is it hot atm for you? In dying of heatstroke in this heatwave we are having

[red forge]

Yeah it's a bit warm.

[lofty prairie]

Im melting.

[cunning rock]

Baking hot, is it?

[lofty prairie]

Yes

It’s suspicious because while some parts are hot the whole countries getting like 40 degrees Celsius heat it’s crazy

[cunning rock]

Just finished watching the new episode, no spoiler here, fantastic

[lofty prairie]

Ikr

|| Maxson getting referenced was amazing ||

The deathclaw scene at the start made me think if that was me irl I would be rapid firing my bowels that wouldve terrified me

[cunning rock]

Yep, the way it’s going looks like they can keep on for many more seasons, nice cliff hanger ending

[lofty prairie]

Also those Chinese soldiers stood no chance, Tbf they had the option to kill him and leave but monologuing is what killed them

[cunning rock]

It’s the old bad guy talks himself to death trick

[lofty prairie]

Yeah

Im wondering what creature thats based of off that they altered. Could the prehaps be related to dinosaurs? Idk just a theory.

[red forge]

They didn't know the deathclaw was there. Cooper remained silent, despite his eyes gazing.

My understanding is they were taking the opportunity to take him as a POW, particularly because of his PA.

[lofty prairie]

Yeah they were gonna give it to the general if I recall

Uh do brotherhood of steel soldiers have guard dogs in fallout 4???

Cuz ive found a patrolling knight near sanctuary and a guard dog is with him

[cunning rock]

Monarch lizard I think was mentioned in a Enclave checkpoint computer

[lofty prairie]

So basically huge chameleons

Im also curious to know how the deathclaw knew who to kill and not to. They are intelligent but still.

[red forge]

Yeah I'm wondering why it didn't gorge on his face. I'm thinking it saw him as no threat, because he couldn't move.

[lofty prairie]

Or maybe like the WW2 German dog thing they did with the tanks. Maybe they trained them to recognise that guys in PA you dont attack

[red forge]

Possible.

[cunning rock]

Later, bedtim

[lofty prairie]

Funny story that backfired for the Germans because the bomber dogs were only trained using German Tanks so on the battlefield the dogs exclusively blew up their own tanks and not the enemies.

So maybe it backfires in fallout

[weary hinge]

This show is so good omg

[tawdry field]

They were genetically engineered by the U.S Government from Jackson chameleons

They're essentially just oversized chameleons who love to pick me up in my hellfire armor like its a tin can

Basically they just kept hitting the chameleons with radiation and pumping it full of drugs to make deathclaws

And im not sure how the Chinese soldiers didnt hear it approaching them, it literally STOMPS when it moves

[red forge]

There's no stomping noise. It's all background explosion noises. The soldiers are fixated on him as opposed to maintaining their own defence.

It is the middle of a war zone afterall, so some sounds are going to be disguised under others.

[grizzled gate]

I wonder if the downed Vertibird was transporting it to drop it behind enemy lines or something.

[runic swan]

They are screwing with the lore though. I don't think there would of been a deathclaw yet in Alaska. Come on. Deathclaws didn't happen until after the bombs. Not before.

[tawdry field]

They were literally made by the government to fight pre war

[runic swan]

So? Doesn't mean they were done with it.

[tawdry field]

Its even stated in fallout 4

Made for pre war super soldiers

[steep raven]

prior to the show I dont think deathclaws were actively deployed anywhere

[runic swan]

They didn't show up before Fallout 1. Nah they are just doing it cause its a cool monster

[tawdry field]

To kill nasty commies who invade our land

[runic swan]

My point EXACTLY Canck.

[tawdry field]

Well usually the cool stuff and lore dont show up later into franchises

Because the developers are just making the game. The first to be exact

[runic swan]

What's with the sexist ahole guy too? If there's a sexist dude in charge of a whole chapter, the transgender character might not be accepted either. Feels like they are trying to turn the Brotherhood into SpaceMarines at times

[tawdry field]

What

You mean the legion?

[runic swan]

I forget his name.

No. The Brotherhood chapter guy who had a problem with the Yosemite brotherhood female

[tawdry field]

The coronado

[versed path]

Different chapters have different cultures. Not all cultures are good

[tawdry field]

We were so close to seeing nate in the show but maximus just HAD to kill xanderz

[runic swan]

Never once has there been one with any sort of bigotry unless it was against non humans.

[versed path]

It's just a few abominations, sigh.

[tawdry field]

Profligate = legion

[runic swan]

What are you on about? I was talking about the Brotherhood.

[tawdry field]

Tbh those children are gonna stay children forever and thats a fate worse than people willingly doing the legion ending in new vegas

[runic swan]

NOT the Legion. I know the Legion are scum. I played New Vegas.

[tawdry field]

Anyone who does the legion ending will not inherit the kingdom of vault 69

[steep raven]

Unless you put them in a fridge

[runic swan]

Even played a game where I helped them win.

[versed path]

All legion diehard fans who genuinely support them are dumbys

Like don't get me wrong, as a concept the legion is dope as hell

But they are just slavers with extra steps

[runic swan]

I also did a Anarchist game, and I think one where I helped house win.

[tawdry field]

NCR path forever

[runic swan]

They aren't a dope concept at all. They are scumbags

[tawdry field]

Yes man over legion

[runic swan]

They don't even know the culture they are trying to copy.

[versed path]

Thats the point

[runic swan]

Even the original Caesar was an idiot.

[tawdry field]

You did the legion ending your opinion is invalided until 2277

[versed path]

It's a wasteland and history gets lost

[runic swan]

I did the Anarchist ending too so shhh

[versed path]

The original Caesar was a very good strategist but outside of that he wasn't bright

[runic swan]

Pretty sure I did NCR too.

[tawdry field]

Brain cancer

[runic swan]

No he wasn't? Idiot had people with swords stuff charging guns

[versed path]

What's worse

Genuinely supporting the legion

Or

Genuinely supporting the Enclave

[runic swan]

Also didn't even know how to deal with the mines unless you tell him.

[tawdry field]

Legion, enclave is america

[red forge]

I would recommend not delving too deep on calling out what someone supports on here. This server has had that problem with Enclave as is. Don't give the mods unnecessary work.

[versed path]

With a slight bit (a lot) of genocide

[tawdry field]

Who doesnt love genocide its fallout

[versed path]

Oh but we draw the line at legion

[tawdry field]

Yes bc the legion hates women and we love lucy

[runic swan]

Then the mods have to ban someone if they turn out to be closet jerk who supports messed up things. shrug.

[versed path]

I'm just curious, I love all the fnv factions

[red forge]

Mods intervene when people blur the line between fantasy and reality.

[versed path]

To a degree ofc

[tawdry field]

Legion is cringe idk why yall defending it

[lofty prairie]

Guys I have a theory but I think Lucy and coopers roles are gonna reverse, if he find his family he’ll go back to pre war in time and I fear that Lucy going down the path of being a raider of something.

[versed path]

I can't wait for Lucy to try psycho

[red forge]

This is exactly what I'm referring to.

[lofty prairie]

Legion fans when you accurately describe there faction as homosexual furry cosplayers

[versed path]

RAAGH!

[runic swan]

I'm still curious why all of a sudden there is sexism in Fallout with the show. Fallout 1, 2, 3 New Yegas, Fallout 4 and Fallout 76. Didn't have it.

[tawdry field]

Are u a legion fan

[lofty prairie]

Brother NV had slavery to women

[tawdry field]

You are an enemy of the state

[red forge]

...

[runic swan]

The Legion are bad guys.

[lofty prairie]

Sexism in fallout has existed

[runic swan]

Yeah, with the bad guys sigh

[versed path]

Yeah because good guys aren't sexist what kind of debate is this bro

[tawdry field]

Legion fans when you say their incel redditor toxic masculinity roman fanfic fandom is evil and cringe and not "as good as the other factions" (theyre not)

[runic swan]

They usualy arent. Not exactly a good guy sign to be a bigot.

[red forge]

Don't say you weren't cautioned.

[versed path]

"Why are the bad guys bad and the good guys good? Someone explain pls?"

[lofty prairie]

😂 how dare Caesar’s legion enslave women and talk about sharing her

[tawdry field]

Is this the server where if you say you side with the enclave a random legion fan boy moderator will mute you

[lofty prairie]

No the mods are chill

[tawdry field]

Highly doubt it

[versed path]

The enclave are NOOT here to help you.

[red forge]

I'd really recommend stopping while you're ahead.

[runic swan]

The Master was best faction. He wanted to unite everyone.

[tawdry field]

Idc enclave solos the legion

[runic swan]

The Unity. I wonder if that will come up in the show.

[tawdry field]

"Wdym my mutants cant breed eachother!?!"

[versed path]

Fallout fans arguing which genocidal and sexist faction is the best

[runic swan]

That was a pretty big oversight by him

[lofty prairie]

Exactly bro

[tawdry field]

Brotherhood doesnt care if you're a girl or boy, if ur a abomination, clanker, and have a toaster they will blow you to hell

[lofty prairie]

Fair I couldn’t trust myself with a toaster

[runic swan]

That sounds like something a synth would say

[lofty prairie]

Toaster are dangerous same with microwaves

[tawdry field]

I rlly thought that was a toaster max brought back in the second episode

[versed path]

Dude I wanna make an AI toaster like from the think tank

[runic swan]

I still think Xander was a synth

[lofty prairie]

They exist btw

[red forge]

Interesting theory.

[runic swan]

Just make a robco robot thing with a toaster in it

[tawdry field]

Show takes place after fallout 4, and if the brotherhood has a commonwealth chapter chances are the institute is a pile of ash

[lofty prairie]

Not really but I won’t dabble into why I don’t think it’s is

[versed path]

I guess bro ✌️

[red forge]

That's why I said theory.

[lofty prairie]

Maxson is named so it’s basically confirmed the institute is gone as Maxson dies in that ending

[runic swan]

Not even twin. The Brotherhood had members who were synths

[red forge]

Danse didn't know he was a synth.

[tawdry field]

No thats Roger maxson not elder maxson

[lofty prairie]

Yeah and he was very remorseful

[runic swan]

The brotherhood were inflitrated and didn't even know. They are dummies.

[tawdry field]

Roger maxson was pre war

[red forge]

Only once he found out.

[runic swan]

The way the show is going it is reasonable to think the Institute took over the commonwealth.

[tawdry field]

If anyone said they didnt side with the institute when they literally have working toilets is lying to you

[versed path]

Dude genuinely the worst takes I've ever heard

[lofty prairie]

Buddy Ik. In episode 4 Yosemite elder says to Thaddeus put in a good word to elder Maxson. The one from FO4 the other Maxson mentioned was episode 3 and that was Roger

[tawdry field]

Stop calling me buddy idk you

[runic swan]

The Enclave has working toilets

[versed path]

Tuff alert.

[lofty prairie]

??? Why are you so aggressive

[versed path]

All of this over fallout btw

[tawdry field]

Bc i ran out of stimpaks in far harbor how do you want me to feel

[lofty prairie]

Im just explaining

[runic swan]

He's not your buddy, guy!

[versed path]

I'm crine 😭

[runic swan]

He might be Canadian. Like in South Park.

[tawdry field]

46 stimpaks wasted bc of GOD DAMN GULPERS

[lofty prairie]

Billy bad ahh over here

[tawdry field]

Why are they so bullet sponge

[versed path]

If youre wasting 46 stims on gulpers you're the problem bro

[runic swan]

It was also weird in the show how the brotherhood had codes against killing each other, but then that meathead pulled a knife and maximus killed him and EVERYONE was ok with it?

[tawdry field]

Nuh uh

[runic swan]

Awful contradictory writing there.

[versed path]

I could fight a nuka quantum mirklurk queen with my fists and use less stim packs

[lofty prairie]

So yeah I loved the Arthur mention and hope he gets showed

[runic swan]

But can you fight a radhog that way?

[tawdry field]

Lies no one can find a mirelurk queen at will

[lofty prairie]

Or atleast liberty prime does

[lofty prairie]

Yes you can.

[runic swan]

Is liberty prime related to Optimus Prime?

[versed path]

nuka cola bottling factory

[tawdry field]

Well until you give me a plotted map I will see this as lies

[lofty prairie]

Omg you’re so annoying

[runic swan]

You're

[tawdry field]

Don't hate me for wanting good loot

[versed path]

Didn't they literally say in the meeting that the codex is open, are you just baiting atp

[runic swan]

They said that to justify war

[versed path]

Yeah, and killing each other.

[runic swan]

Dude it wasn't a literal thing...

[versed path]

He drew the knife. It's his fault first. The brotherhood is usually all about strength

[tawdry field]

How the hell did xander or the commonwealth chapter knew the other chapters were meeting whem theyre on the other side of the country

[runic swan]

It was still weird that all of a sudden they were cool with a knife fight breaking out and stuff. They could of stopped it.

Cause Xander was a synth.

[lofty prairie]

They have satellites and are always in contact

[red forge]

It's not confirmed how he knew.

[tawdry field]

I doubt synths cared abt the other chapters

[versed path]

It's the commonwealth

[runic swan]

I don't. Why would the institute stop at the commonwealth?

[lofty prairie]

For instance Maxson was initiated as elder by the west in DC via video

So they can contact the West just they don’t.

[runic swan]

He's a synth.

[tawdry field]

Last I checked the Commonwealth chapter could not kill the 3 mirelurks I baited towards them without losing two Knights in t60

[runic swan]

lol

[red forge]

Use speculation, unless you have proof.

[tawdry field]

Dude if the commonwealth chapter exists still then the institute is gone

[versed path]

You can't chop up garbage Bethesda AI to that

[runic swan]

I don't have to. I can just say its my theory.

[red forge]

Then it's speculation.

That's my point.

[nova mango]

Just watched the newest episode

[tawdry field]

Ik it might be wrong to say this but, genocide the vault dwellers.

[lofty prairie]

Y’all say hes a synth cuz he shares the same last name with an obsolete guard from rivet city

[runic swan]

Dude except the commonwealth chapter already existed with the institute still there.

[versed path]

Run bro this chat is so hostile rn

[nova mango]

Wth is happening?

[tawdry field]

Yeah but its years after fallout 4 so the sole survivor could've helped them destroyed kt by then

[runic swan]

AND cause he's from the commonwealth, they only sent ONE guy and he knew things seemingly almost magically.

[versed path]

Chuds debating which fallout lore is canon to their headcanon

[red forge]

Best to ignore.

[runic swan]

The sole survivor more than likely didn't exist in the show

[lofty prairie]

???

[tawdry field]

Omfg

[lofty prairie]

Why wouldn’t he? Other protagonist exist

[versed path]

I don't even like the legion, I like all the factions

[runic swan]

Not in the show it seems

[lofty prairie]

Nah vault ronin is rage baiting

[versed path]

Vault ronin has to be an AI algorithm designed for bait

[red forge]

There's A LOT we don't yet know.

[versed path]

Genuinely nobody can have these takes

[tawdry field]

"Oh ok so fallout 4 is not canon" VRO

[lofty prairie]

So you could say that Vault 13 dweller chosen one courier and lone wanderer didnt exist aswell

[nova mango]

Jesus Christ, the only civil war a Fallout fan can happen, only thing that can unite all Fallout fans is
-# someone who actually believe The Legion is the best option

[versed path]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359004121600102470/1449896557993398323/togif.gif

[lofty prairie]

I agree

[red forge]

Stop using speculation as fact unless you can prove it. If it's your theory, stick to calling it a theory.

[runic swan]

Yes. The show seems to be going with their own idea of what happened.

[lofty prairie]

Pack it up

[versed path]

It's almost like

[tawdry field]

Guys new theory fallout new vegas isnt Canon

In fact none of the games is canon

[versed path]

Oh my god bro this is bait and it's working so well

[runic swan]

Stop getting upset someone has a different theory than yours.

[lofty prairie]

Guys fallout 3 isnt canon cuz vault ronin says it’s not

[red forge]

Phrasing is important.

[tawdry field]

The only canon fallout is BROTHERBOOD OF STOL

[versed path]

Fallout 3 isn't canon because our character never existed 😭✌️

[lofty prairie]

According to vault ronin

[red forge]

If it's your theory, fine, but state so.

[lofty prairie]

Brotherhood of Stol

[red forge]

"trust me bro" is not a source.

[tawdry field]

I feel like the courier is male, the lone wanderer is female and the sole survivor is nate

[lofty prairie]

This

[versed path]

Courier has low karma I think in my own canon

[runic swan]

lol saying the protagonists didn't exist doesn't mean the previous video games didn't exist. It means things happened without a "chosen one" player character

[versed path]

He's not an amazing guy LOL. He storms half way across the wasteland to shoot a guy

[runic swan]

Its not that hard of a concept to grasp.

[lofty prairie]

Then they didn’t happen

[tawdry field]

The sole survivor is obviously nate bc hes an ex military, Nora is a fricking lawyer

[versed path]

Things literally don't happen in fallout 3 without your character

[lofty prairie]

That’s literally the whole point of the protagonist. The story cant move forward without it. I swear hes rage baiting.

[versed path]

The GECK doesn't get discovered, project purity doesn't get set into motioj

[runic swan]

Except they did because there's still a fallout universe outside of the character from the video games in the tv show

[tawdry field]

We should bomb shady sands

[red forge]

Fallout to my understanding does not use the concept of "chosen one".

[tawdry field]

Sole survivor

[lofty prairie]

Tv show and games are same universe

[runic swan]

They do in the sense of the progatonist being a badass

No they arent. Where in the video games did House try and use brain control devices? He abhors slavery.

[versed path]

There is literally a protagonist called the chosen one are we kidding bro

[runic swan]

Indeed Ghoul

[lofty prairie]

Bro it’s in the same universe the everyone at BGS and show runners say it is

[red forge]

What part of "to my understanding" did you all misunderstand?

[lofty prairie]

Idgas of you dont think it isnt cuz it is

[runic swan]

They also said they dont care about things that happened in the video games.

[tawdry field]

Why was hank turning the mind control implant dial to MAX on damn laboratory rats when he KNOWS they will EXPLODE EVERY TIME

[versed path]

Can we get fisto out here already this chats boring me

[runic swan]

Cause Hank likes blowing up mice

[lofty prairie]

Vault ronin they are the same universe whever you like it or not

[versed path]

My fault you're a chill one

[tawdry field]

Ur dumb ur stupid and u like the legion

[red forge]

This is why I always use speculative language myself.

[tawdry field]

New slur for legion fans "ceasers"

No! Little Ceasers!!!

[runic swan]

You can have a show set in a universe without the protagonists from video games its based on...jesus christ its not hard to understand.

Look at how the witcher is ignoring the books and video games now. Its not good but they are doing it.

[tawdry field]

So lets remove Minecraft, halo, and almost every video game TV adaptation

"You can have an ommelete without the eggs."

[nova mango]

It seems like different rats have a certain restraint, Hank tries to make them use the mini computer but each rat has a different mental resistance/restraint against it, each time it gose higher the harder it is for the rats to resist, problem, most rats resist it so much they kaboom

[red forge]

This is why NV fans hate the direction of the show. They don't like that their chosen ending might not be canon.

[runic swan]

Star Wars is doing it without the characters from the movies

[versed path]

It'd be like watching a Mario movie about some random goomba that works for bowser

[lofty prairie]

Exactly

[runic swan]

What now?

[tawdry field]

If i were him id be saving those rats bc theyre the only rats left in the universe

[red forge]

What now? I say we could perhaps move to a different topic. This one has perhaps played its course. Just an idea.

[versed path]

Ik it's not true but, the yesman ending was always the canon one for me.

[nova mango]

Im an NV fan and idrc about what ending is cannon, imo it's probably House if they do make a cannon ending, but they said they're not gonna make a cannon ending

[tawdry field]

Are we all gonna seriously IGNORE the fact that the brotherhood is holed up in Area 51 and casually threw away a ZETAN???

[versed path]

Yea

[nova mango]

He could breed them and he has to test the small ones somehow

[lofty prairie]

Im a Zetan Raceist and im proud to be one. Our home isnt going to be enslaved by little green men.

[versed path]

Zetans are a common thing in fallout atp, they could probably careless

They've appeared in every game since the first fallout

[red forge]

I took the Zetan thing as an easter egg joke on the audience.

[runic swan]

It is a joke.

[tawdry field]

Yeah to the player. Not the faction itself

[runic swan]

The way it was handed it was.

[nova mango]

I hate those little green men, they should be eradicated

[tawdry field]

Anyways in vault 111 the cryolater is a passion project from the overseer so why is it in Area 51

[red forge]

It played on the conspiracy theory of Area 51 holding aliens.

[tawdry field]

Ok but If we said this abt the legion and the NCR were getting muted

[runic swan]

NCR exists in real life. Its on the scanners at the grocery store. :-p

[tawdry field]

This man knows ball

[nova mango]

We dead serious about getting muted to say The Legion deserve that?

[tawdry field]

I dont doubt some of the moderators are die hard legion fans but are hiding it and will sway the subject into saying "stop arguing", and then muting the person against the legion

[nova mango]

That would be insane and wild

[red forge]

Quit it with the conspiracy theories about BGS staff.

[tawdry field]

I just cant prove it but ik it like the probability of the mysterious stranger spawn rate in fo3

[nova mango]

Lmao

[tawdry field]

Something only a legion fan would say

[runic swan]

The Legion are good bad guys to hate. That's about as far as anyone should like them.

[nova mango]

Yeah

[tawdry field]

im gonna go on a whim here and say the railroad deserve two hundred more genocides

[runic swan]

I wonder if the Shi will show up at all. Or even get a mention. They probably got blown up too since they were also working to rebuild things.

[nova mango]

What about the Kahns?

[tawdry field]

Desomodana talks to me like im her little lapdog like VRO I will ERADICATE YOUR KIND

[tacit lantern]

I hope we see the enclave power armor in live action one day

[nova mango]

We might

[tawdry field]

Ill never forgive bethesda for cutting institute power armor

Yk how peak that would've been

The synth armor is so abysmal its better to chuck it into the water than to scrap or sell it

well it is made of plastic

[nova mango]

I bet in cannon it would've been worse than the T-45

[tawdry field]

Good take, lets nuke china again

[nova mango]

💀

[tawdry field]

we live in a world where in fallout a man's head exploded after repeating the slogan for a cereal box

[runic swan]

Goblin Flakes?

[tawdry field]

Sugar bombs u synthetic gorilla

[runic swan]

Goblin Flakes better you UNsuper mutant

[tawdry field]

Shush you probably think the slavery camp in nuka land isnt the equivalent to eps teins island

[nova mango]

That's because in the first episode Hank hugged Lucy and whispered "My little sugar bomb" so when she saw the fresh open sugar bombs and the guy kept saying it.....it was her dad sending a message to her.....

[runic swan]

What slavery camp?

[tawdry field]

Did you not play the nuka cola dlc

[nova mango]

Hank calls Lucy sugar bomb as a cute nickname

[tawdry field]

Anyway what happened to the rest of the NCR troops, it can't be just those rangers left

[runic swan]

I thought you meant nuka world on tour lol

Hank is creepy.

[tawdry field]

He ripped a man in half

[nova mango]

When Lucy made it to the NCR in the first season you see a ghoul point to her, if you listen closely he says "Is that her?....That's her!!" next to the guy with the pot infront of him

[runic swan]

I'm wondering if that Deathclaw was sapient or something.

He only did it in power armor. There is only ONE Hank. And that is Hank Hill.

[nova mango]

As in the ghoul grabs the guy's arm and points to Lucy while staring at her

[runic swan]

I tell ya whut

[tawdry field]

Yeah but I thought moldavers holdout was the battalion the rangers were referring to

[nova mango]

The Rangers are in Vegas, that was way way way far from Vegas and ontop of that, that was a civilian camp of some kind, at least I'm pretty sure

[tawdry field]

Its literally on the outskirts of town

Hank walked from there to Vegas

[nova mango]

He was in T-60 power armor, probably used the jetpack

[tawdry field]

Anyway im still wondering what happened to the courier

[nova mango]

Also that was the observatory in the first season in California, the Rangers are very very very far out

[tawdry field]

We now know the mr house ending is Canon so

[nova mango]

Finally someone said it

[runic swan]

After seeing that Deathclaw I'm wondering what Goris and the others sounded like when speaking. I feel like they'd still be terrifying even with them being friendly.

[nova mango]

We'll probably never find out tbh

[tawdry field]

Is he dead or Just somewhere. We know damn well the courier is too rowdy to settle down forever

[runic swan]

The courier could of died in their universe.

[nova mango]

Mr. House would either kick them out or they'd get bored and leave, especially after leaving whatever carnage behind

[tawdry field]

Tbh the perfect reveal for him is like hank and the ghoul and luch are fighting but when hank is about to kill Lucy a gunshot is heard in the distance but we dont see who and they say in an interview it was either the courier or the stranger

[runic swan]

Someone was saying it seems like maybe House got the chip in the tv universe

[austere flax]

I had a thought on why the Kings are at the opposite end of the strip and not in Freeside, since the NCR collapsed (partially or whole) and whatever event happened for the strip became a Deathclaw nest (massive migration from quarry junction to a food source?), they probably closed off the Freeside entrance and posted up on the other end to keep the Deathclaws from coming out, being that they would of been the most unaffected "militia" that had the most reason to take action

[tawdry field]

RHhhfmendjhsnbraghhhhRAHHHHbejdeb
-the kings

[austere flax]

"Woah momma put the radation beam away, Im getting chased by a giant lizard"

[runic swan]

But did the "I won the lottery guy" die?

That's the REAL question

[tawdry field]

More importantly who has the Euclid c finder...

[runic swan]

The what?

[austere flax]

Where even is the mojave chapter, don't think any of the ones we were introduced to were, and titus's is the salt flats of Utah

[tawdry field]

omfg the orbital laser gun

I swear some fallout fans did not play the same or have the remembrance of a senile radroach

No offense ^q^

[nova mango]

Sun laser time

[lilac sequoia]

Since the events of the Mojave has been up and down. I believe the Courier took it for themselves and Helios One has been under their control

[lofty prairie]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[torpid ermine]

Not really

[dusky flicker]

house is in the trailer and victor is alive its some kind of house ending

[torpid ermine]

Or it was the wildcard ending

Only explanation for why the NCR stuck around, they were kicked out of New Vegas after House got the chip

[dusky flicker]

or yk something different happened

[torpid ermine]

Like?
You think it was Mr Fantastic?

[dusky flicker]

i think it was mr fantastic what

[torpid ermine]

He was the one at control, he did have a theoretical degree in physics

[mighty wren]

I HATE the west coast bos

[dusky flicker]

i LOVE maximus

better this fallen world knight maximus

[lunar flicker]

So, given that Quintus and his chapter hate non-ferals as much as Maxson and the Commonwealth, do we think any chapters who aren't that way were either exiled or killed off?

[nimble pike]

Me too, the east coast is already bad but the original BoS, the one of the west coast is even worse. Unfortunatly, the BoS is a mass of military worshipping technologies but without knowing anything about it

What i found disturbing is that Besthesda is literraly destroying every single faction of the Fallout in the show 😅
BOS at a civil war destorying many chapters at the same time, NCR dead or almost, legion dead, Vaul-tec almost dead, House possibly dead etc... Wow that's some cleaning work 😂

[dusky flicker]

resorbed and silent for their safety probably

[dusky flicker]

the legion isn’t dead, the ncr isn’t dead, mr house isn’t dead, and the great khans are running around

have people not seen the trailers?

[serene aurora]

we dont know if mr house isnt dead yet

[dusky flicker]

victor’s alive and house is in the trailer with a noseless cooper

[serene aurora]

mr house last time i checked met my fatman

there is actually no run i had where i let him live

[lunar flicker]

I would like to say, we could have a ghoul cooper flashback at some point since we know he was in Vegas in the past

[dusky flicker]

are you serious?
mr house didnt establish new vegas fully until 2274, 7 years before new vegas where we hear constantly we’re the first person in ages to enter the lucky 38

[nimble pike]

Did you watch the épisodes ?
I suppose not

It's a possible that Mr house screen we see in the trailer is not the real house, just a record or someone controlling the screen

[dusky flicker]

do yall not know how mr house works

he’s not tony starks dad lmao, thats a guy

[nimble pike]

We cant expect anything for the moment
All the securitons are destroyed, and even Victor is out of House control

[torpid ermine]

I mean, not in the tower considering that the courier was the only one ever allowed up there

[nimble pike]

He didnt even respond to Hank because is easy to suppose that House was the one who Hank tried to talk to

[dusky flicker]

victor literally disappears when house is deactivated

[lunar flicker]

I mean, with this show, I make no assumptions regarding how it will reflect or effect the games

[torpid ermine]

Doesn't he stick around during yes man?

[dusky flicker]

no his shells literally go blank

[torpid ermine]

Ah yes, just had to look it up to make sure

[dusky flicker]

the ones where there’s still all of those factions
i have no idea why you think the legion is dead when they still think they’re at war with the ncr (as well as the khans now according to a belgian trailer for the show), and there’s still plenty to see of them in the trailers
the ncr is being aggressively foreshadowed, cooper uses a hold out as a bargaining chip and there is literally ncr power armor in the trailer

so whatre we doing like

house has zero reason to record anything since he communicated with his agents remotely through his robots, and especially not for cooper of all people.
and in the lucky 38? how did house expect cooper to get in? why would that even be a factor when house has no reason to believe cooper is alive or even the ghoul?

like i don’t mean to erm actually like a jerk but i just genuinely dk where the confusion and questions are stemming from its like we’re watching two different shows

[torpid ermine]

I'm just personally conflicted on it potentially being the house ending tbh

[dusky flicker]

its definitely not a house ending we recognize so im down to clown

[torpid ermine]

Well, we haven't heard anything of the battle for hoover dam though, which is interesting

[mighty wren]

Also what’s up with the deathclaw in the new episode?? how was there one there before the bombs went off?

[torpid ermine]

They were made in labs pre-war

[lunar flicker]

They were actually created prewar by the us government

[torpid ermine]

The same with FEV

[mighty wren]

OH?

[lunar flicker]

we've just never seen examples of that until now

[dusky flicker]

pre war search and destroy project bio weapon

[mighty wren]

Oh ok thankss

[torpid ermine]

Yeah, the US government before the war was a frigging authoritarian mess

[dusky flicker]

then they em kinda got out when the bombs fell

[nimble pike]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-evil-laugh-sneak-out-escape-gif-9269541538250863384

[dusky flicker]

literally holocausting asian americans

[torpid ermine]

Yeah and they spread quick as hell, how did that happen

[lunar flicker]

It's also why enclave are so insistent on trying to weaponize claws throughout the games, they thought if prewar us could do it, so could they

[dusky flicker]

life uhh mm uhh finds a way

[torpid ermine]

They did something like Chinese internment camps in Fallout??

[dusky flicker]

what curse did i say

anyway yeah, they were straight up ethnically cleansing asian americans and experimenting on them in these death camps

[lunar flicker]

Fallout 3 shows makeshift camps and prisons for asain Americans, and fallout 4 south Boston checkpoint mentions a Japanese family being arrested and sent off to a camp

[dusky flicker]

people gotta play old world blues lol

[lunar flicker]

Oh and old world blues, forgot about that

[torpid ermine]

Hmm, it honestly didn't look like they had it wholly under control which is interesting, it was basically just running around, now I wonder if it relates to the purpose of the neck chip 🤔

[torpid ermine]

Ah yes

[dusky flicker]

also what they did to the people of appalachia

was haunting to read on terminals, alone, when there were no npcs

[torpid ermine]

Yeah the prewar US government pushed lots of orientalism and red scare capitalist propaganda stuff, very sad

[dusky flicker]

fallout 76 has insane lore

[mighty wren]

What’d they do?

[torpid ermine]

Fo76 was a chore to play for me, what did they do though apart from the typical fallout government nightmare stuff

[dusky flicker]

basically took all of their jobs and mining and constructing equipment and immediately violently replaced them, started mass arresting and shooting them for being anti capitalists

[lunar flicker]

What's crazy is the government weren't even the worst ones in Appalachia

[dusky flicker]

the capital

[lunar flicker]

Given that West-Tek turned an entire town into mutants and cryptids right before the bombs

[torpid ermine]

This actually happened in real life too btw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

[dusky flicker]

my pfp on my socials is john brown, dw im tuned in lets say

[torpid ermine]

Lets go

[lunar flicker]

Though it does raise an interesting question, none of the Anchorage survivors on either side went to the media about giant death lizards in the snow?

[dusky flicker]

love fallout thank you bethany esda for operation anchorage remembering

[dusky flicker]

im sure some tried

[lunar flicker]

Is that Alpharius as an emoji?

[dusky flicker]

no. (this, too, is a lie)

why didn’t the ghoul bring an anti material with ap ammo to a deathclaw nest? is he stupid?

[lunar flicker]

also, someone pointed out something interesting about this latest episode, fallout doesn't really do coincidences regarding anagrams, but one of the Vault 31 guys mentioned Future Enterprise Ventures regarding the vault experiment

[dusky flicker]

oh yeah fev is a factor which brings me to my schizo prediction i want yall to remember (delusional)

the deep voice in the trailer that says a war is coming is goris

not even playing

arms crossed smugly, smirking like the Sigma i am

[lunar flicker]

and I know vault-tec ain't above hitting civilians and kids with FEV, but yeah, Bud wanted to breed Super Managers, SM, Super Mutants

[dusky flicker]

fev makes deathclaws sentient

[lunar flicker]

Oh jeez, I sound like a conspiracy theorist saying that

[dusky flicker]

goris was a sentient deathclaw who disappeared after fallout 2

[lunar flicker]

Didn't the enclave kill goris and his group?

[dusky flicker]

goris is a companion so no just his group

100% its him

[lunar flicker]

Ah, haven't played 2 myself, only heard it's lore through wikis and youtubers

[dusky flicker]

after all this deathclaw emphasis not just being a spectacle, and fev, im all in on goris

half life big syringe hopium meme

i cant wait to come back in here screaming when goris shows up

[lunar flicker]

watch him show up for one scene only to die

[weak kayak]

It was but you can’t magically have a firmware update that wasn’t enabled that screen only happens after their upgrade

[serene aurora]

the courier should show up for a scene

[dusky flicker]

someone in the survivalist’s armor/riot armor and with perhaps an eyebot should show up, say nothing, and aura farm, and then exit

[grizzled gate]

With the Omertas presumably dead, we know that the canon ending is the Nerbit one.

[versed path]

"presumably" my boy id be surprised if their bones were still left

[versed path]

I've been saying when they get into the lucky 38, house should mention a helper he had, then in the presidential suite, just show some riot gear.

Nod to his presence without directly showing them

[grizzled gate]

Just covering all the bases. no bodies no confirmation, etc.

[versed path]

Exactly heah

[tidal tendon]

👀

[tender cypress]

[tidal tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-76-thirsty-thursday-drinking-gif-14577551

[plain portal]

||Just curious how pre war Alaska deathclaw survive the cold when they are cold blooded unless they produce radiation to keep warm||

[red forge]

||This particular one has probably been unleashing alll sorts of hell on the battlefield.||

[orchid lake]

Courtesy of the U.S Army!

[vapid kestrel]

It secretly had a coat on, obviously

[analog iron]

goris or marcus, jacobstown is still a neighbor from vegas

[vivid meadow]

The same way a man with decayed skin can survive the fallout of a nuclear blast and live for 200 years

[lilac sequoia]

i would argue they were deployed knowing they’d die after the battle ended making it a good idea for them to be deployed without further casualty

[plain portal]

Unless the facility was enclave on aluethian islands

[lilac sequoia]

that too

an Alaska fallout would be really sick imo to see remnants of Chinese. The world building about the alaskan front alone would work so well for a battlefield environment

[analog iron]

fallout 5 in san francisco sure answer many things from alaska because of the shi

and chinese power armour for the cover obviusly

[lilac sequoia]

i more so talking about having a battlefield style wasteland with abandoned military equipment of both sides

[plain portal]

Post war deathclaw probably had better eye sight because Alaskan was relying on echolocation hearing

[analog iron]

anchorage is still the close one and now the cooper flashbacks

[remote crescent]

||the kings 💔 ||

[tawdry field]

Will we ever see nate

I wanna see nate

[nova mango]

Rip

[dull saffron]

I'm praying that we get 10 or more episodes for Season 3. I think if we all make a rukus by asking them, it would increase our chances

[fathom parcel]

lots of speculation. Was that T-51 armor in Alaska? However many years after the Courier visited, whatever ending, looks like everything deteriorated so I'm still happy with the TV series

[analog iron]

its the t-45

[red forge]

Yeah it's the T-45, which is what Cooper tells Bud was a flawed PA, because Bud designed it.

Cooper demonstrated he was really not happy about it when Bud told him he designed it.

This relates to him talking about the soldering flaw under the chest plate.

So after all his opinion about it, we finally saw him in action in it, and us seeing his POV.

[tired glade]

The destroyed securitron at the gate had seemingly fired its rockets = chip upgrade confirmed

[strong pine]

previous statement still stands - Vaultec types are prototype raiders

[spring basin]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-not-i-dont-know-maybe-we-dont-know-gif-4965071280460852343

[strong pine]

so it took 2 BOS walking tin cans to take down one of those nice robots - so they look very underpowered for whacking deathclaws

[frosty wolf]

I have a theory about why we don’t see Tunnelers in the Mojave as well as the Courier

Bro is single-handedly just holding them back in their home turf to keep them out of the Mojave

Oh and that weird homeless guy that lives there too talking about Bull and bear constantly

[wet knoll]

No games canon its all lore apprently someone told me

[frosty wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-shush-shh-ok-bird-gif-17679708

[wet knoll]

I seen a thoery that all the games storys are being merged. They got the fusion and lucys dad is gona head to the common wealth to the institute and the brotherhoods is gona go to mass fusion since max got the thing

Cause those chips were the same things the synths have in there heads

[red forge]

Cool, as long as you make known it's just a theory.

[wet knoll]

And i bet lucys dad used a chip on that deathclaw

Only reason he thinks gaes arnt canon is the deathclaw in ancourage since in game they cant survive the cold

[red forge]

That's entirely up to him.

Different crowds in the community have all sorts of opinion on which game/s is/is not canon.

[ruby flint]

Full of hope for new Vegas remaster

[final wing]

|| chinese soldiers casually getting slimed is crazy lol ||

[unreal zealot]

Ngl i’ve really begun to dislike the fallout tv series

[lilac sequoia]

yea thats not happening soon

[ruby flint]

It is

[lilac sequoia]

as much as i wanna eat my words, theres 0 evidence we will see it until like 2-5 years from now

It makes sense of a possibility for a Fallout 3 remaster because they could use a lot of those Unreal 5 assets into a New Vegas which that game uses a lot of from base game

[split gorge]

|| it only just occurred to me how quickly Dane accepted and went along with maximus' idea of killing Quintus ||

[split gorge]

3 better be remastered first

[red forge]

There's no confirmation.

There's HOPE though.

[ruby flint]

It’s coming

[red forge]

What's your source?

"trust me bro" is not a source.

[ruby flint]

My source is it was revealed to me in a dream

[red forge]

🤨

[sterile torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/ronburgundy-dontbelieveyou-skeptical-liar-gif-4961268

[tidal tendon]

"You, I've seen you. You were in my dreams."

[lilac sequoia]

they were the one who disagreed with the civil war between the CW

[split gorge]

True true

[lilac sequoia]

I do think its a bit dumb for Dane to stay with the BOS when they have a history of trying to avoid occupations like stabbing their own foot and lying

My issue with this season atm is kinda how dumb everyone sorta is specifically factions

[red forge]

Billy Ocean would like a word.

[lilac sequoia]

i also kinda wish Maximus like was more smart

He always takes the extreme approach and doesnt actually understand the consequences. Even the most obvious ones

in season 1 i at least liked that it was revealed he didnt put the razorblade in Dane's foot. But throughout season 2 he's basically running idiot sevant and actually acting upon urges we assumed in s1

[red forge]

He's being extreme because he's had enough of being taken advantage of.

[lilac sequoia]

I dont believe so. Hes a brotherhood knight. Hes always gonna be used because he is apart of a community that has a specific goal

[red forge]

He's a knight because Quintus made him one.

[lilac sequoia]

The issue is he doesnt understand like what is going on around him

[red forge]

He's been largely unqualified to do anything he does for BoS.

[lilac sequoia]

He doesnt understand killing Xander is the dumbest thing to do. He also has an incorrect assumption that the brotherhood "kill" people when Xander is not a subject of abomination or any sort of treason

[red forge]

... he literally said "I think I started a war" when he killed Xander.

He killed Xander because he didn't want the kids massacred, ghoul or no.

[lilac sequoia]

Yea but the fact he recommends it to Quintus and all of a sudden seems pissed off quintus calls him out is whats baffling to me

[red forge]

?

[lilac sequoia]

Like i cant tell genuinely what Maximus is even thinking because his beliefs swing so much

[red forge]

That can happen when you're raised in a cult, and not know you're in a cult.

A culture shock.

[lilac sequoia]

Like he's quintus golden boy. He's being called son by a father figure. Then gives a stupid answer that would start a war and he walks out almost sort of disappointed and resentful against quintus. Then he meets Xander and feels almost buddy buddy with him. Then has to kill him because the codex violates his personal morals.

Really the issue i have with his character is he's not thinking

[tidal tendon]

Was I in his dreams?

[lilac sequoia]

and he tells quintus things just happen yet he doesnt realize the reason they do is because he's not thinking before he acts

[red forge]

Quintus didn't want Maximus making conflicting orders with his own, especially in front of the other Elders. It'll be seen as insubordination.

[lilac sequoia]

He would have never had to kill Xander if he hadnt agreed to talk to him

[red forge]

That's not correct. Things happen because things happen, not because he doesn't think.

[lilac sequoia]

He KNEW he shouldnt have interacted with him but because of some resentmen from quintus. He basically got himself in this situation

[red forge]

Xander influenced him into a "bromance".

That's what charisma does. Someone else who is like him.

[lilac sequoia]

then after killing Xander his next idea is to kill quintus which imo was an incredibly huge leap in logic

like im sorry but thats not how it works

[red forge]

His decision to want to kill Quintus is all based on that he's had enough, and that he'd know Quintus would disapprove of him sparing "abominations".

[lofty prairie]

Hi y’all

[lilac sequoia]

him killing quintus even if quintus is planning a civil war still makes Maximus committing treason for killing another member, not to mention a high ranking one. What was his plan after

[lofty prairie]

It’s impressive that even last season he wouldn’t have dared to do something like this.

[lilac sequoia]

Whats the plan if he killed Quintus and lets say didnt escape

[red forge]

He said himself he didn't have a plan. He was just going with the flow.

[lilac sequoia]

and thats the problem i have with his character

Hes kinda just fumbling into higher positions but making the same mistakes. The growth of his character is more dictated by the situation rather than what I expect from him

Lucy sure she is still naive but she changes a lot

[red forge]

He had a plan to kill Quintus. He said he didn't have any sort of big plan that Quintus thought he had.

[lofty prairie]

Maximus has hit the critical point of crap hits the fan so he can’t turn back. I wonder if hes gonna become NCR, as someone with BoS could be valuable to NCR

[red forge]

He only said he planned to do 1 thing - to kill Quintus.

[lilac sequoia]

and its not the smartest decision

[red forge]

Everything else that's happened just happened to happen.

He's emotional. He's had enough.

[lilac sequoia]

u can have high morals but him just acting is what imo makes me resent watching him

Like why did we get from Kill paladin to kill Quintus and then whats next

[lofty prairie]

I mean who else was he supposed to kill after Xander

[red forge]

He was compelled to kill that other paladin. Even Quintus wanted him to do it. Maximus himself wanted nothing to do with it.

[lofty prairie]

Mind you he failed so prehaps he’ll get an opportunity later on and kill quintus then

[red forge]

That paladin thought Maximus was "all big" because of the claim about him killing Moldaver, so he picked a fight with him. Maximus felt forced to accept.

[lilac sequoia]

Not kill quintus? Make a plan? Stop taking the absurd route. Ofc he didnt end up kiling quintus but even tho this is fallout and everyone has very very very little empathy for human life. Its not even about empathy. Its just not at all an intelligent thing to do

[red forge]

He's being compelled into everything he doesn't want to do. The only "plan" he's had thus far was to kill Quintus.

[lilac sequoia]

Like what i do enjoy about Lucy's character and even the Ghoul is their objective isnt even to just straight up kill a leader. Even the Ghoul being a murder hobo is smart

and its more than moral highground. They understand the situation

[red forge]

And he felt he could get some freedom hanging with Xander, only to realise Xander wasn't all he was cracked up to be from his perspective.

It's all emotion.

He's in a state of culture shock.

Some decisions are not going to be rational.

[lofty prairie]

It’s like finding out your in the Truman show

[lilac sequoia]

again thats not my point. My point is its less believable for me vs Lucy and the Ghoul

Lucy doesnt make good choices but after those situations she does learn

and sometimes her making the right choice actually helps her

[red forge]

The Ghoul is a bounty hunter.

[lofty prairie]

I do love how Lucy’s changing. Ive said this many time but I’ll say it again I think Lucy will became a raider or obviously not a good person

[red forge]

A survivalist.

[lofty prairie]

No offense but why are we calling him the ghoul this far in hes cooper

[lilac sequoia]

the Ghoul didnt decide to just shoot the Caesar and fight the whole legion to help Lucy. He lit off dynamite at best but its not even like the most absurd thing compared to Maximus

[lofty prairie]

The ghoul planned that, even tho it looked on the spot. But Maximus wouldn’t have thought of a plan.

[red forge]

I've not heard him identify by his name as a ghoul.

[lofty prairie]

Huh, it’s cooper Howard

[lilac sequoia]

i think it would have been more compelling for him to steal the fusion primarily instead not come to the conclusion to kill quintus.

[red forge]

I use Cooper to suggest prewar, and Ghoul as post-war.

[lofty prairie]

Cooper Howard is post war tho

[red forge]

We're going on semantics here...

[lofty prairie]

Thats his birth name whether ghoul or not

[red forge]

What does it matter? They're the same character regardless of name.

[lofty prairie]

Fair point

[trim quest]

As a reminder, do not try and bypass the profanity filter.

still against #rules

[analog iron]

i censored the word i swear

[red forge]

His decision to want to kill Quintus is perhaps the 1 thing/only thing so far he's been sure to want to do on his own terms.

Even though he caved when Quintus tried to appeal to him.

But again, that's when emotion comes into it.

Also given Quintus knew straight away Maximus was wanting to assassinate him.

[analog iron]

Maximus has nothing left outside the brotherhood, so he's in improvisation mode until something works out for him.

[orchid lake]

NCR

[analog iron]

yeah, he doesn't know yet they still outside

i mean, all of this is setting for their big return in the final chapters ||the ncr power armour from the trailers it has to come from somewhere||

[lofty prairie]

A lot of people didnt like the new || NCR power armour look || I think it’s great it’s two of the best armours in fallout mixed together.

[unreal zealot]

He’s supposed to represent the type of player who puts all their stats in strength and stuff like that, while fighting his way through everything.

He’s not supposed to develop as a character, as the main character rarely ever does either in the fallout realm

[lofty prairie]

Literally what I’m doing rn on my run lol. But I do have high charisma

[unreal zealot]

It’s literally part of his character that he completes all his tasks by using violence

[unreal zealot]

Yeah, maximus does NOT have that

[lofty prairie]

And Lucy imo seems to be luck cuz she’s gets out of the craziest crap

[unreal zealot]

Luck and charisma

[lofty prairie]

Wdym season one flirting with Lucy was golden

Remember the vault, hes pinnacle of charisma lol

[unreal zealot]

“Can you make my #### explode?”

[frosty wolf]

Well he does represent players who don’t plan or think ahead

[lofty prairie]

In all seriousness he couldn’t talk to a snail and pass the speech check

[lofty prairie]

Literally me… 😂

[analog iron]

I like it, but that's just me, I like all power armor variants, and my favorite is the Tactics one. i hope for fallout 5 will have that style for the new one, since it's been so long in time and they have to make a new one from scratch. I mean, the excuse that the U.S. Army had another pre-war model is a bit outdated now.

[lofty prairie]

I do plan but it’s never usually a good one

[unreal zealot]

It’ll only exist if we play in Chicago

[lofty prairie]

Yeah a lot of the armour will have to be post war now and your right the tactics armour is fire and im pretty sure it was inspiration for the XO2

[unreal zealot]

Ngl the next Fallout should be in Chicago

A major BOS chapter is there, along with Enclave remnants

[analog iron]

Knowing how subtle Bethesda is when mentioning future locations in his games, it could possibly be San Francisco.

[unreal zealot]

You can also make a crime syndicate as a faction, that resembles the Chicago Mob in the 1950s

Oh no

[lofty prairie]

We had the Temu version of that in FO4 the triggerman

[unreal zealot]

What is there left in San Francisco? Bethesda have literally killed off all major west coast factions

[analog iron]

Chineses

[unreal zealot]

Yes but i want something bigger

[lofty prairie]

Theres the shi a major crime Chinese family

[unreal zealot]

Ngl i also want a commie faction in fallout 5

[lofty prairie]

We don’t know since fallout 2 what’s happend to them

[unreal zealot]

The shi?

[analog iron]

yeah

[lofty prairie]

Shi sorry not shin

[unreal zealot]

Weren’t they in San Francisco?

[lofty prairie]

Yes which is what we are talking about

[unreal zealot]

Oh thought u were talking about Chicago

[lofty prairie]

We are bouncing between the two lol

[red forge]

Leaks cannot be discussed here.

[analog iron]

now fallout 5 its in the two locations

[lofty prairie]

Mb

[unreal zealot]

I want Fallout 5 to be set in Chicago.

The major factions are:

BOS
Enclave
Some mafia type faction
A commie faction

[red forge]

We don't yet know when it'll be set.

[lofty prairie]

Commie faction would be cool but if it’s set after 4 a lot of people wouldn’t know/ do the communist ideology

[unreal zealot]

It’s what i want

[analog iron]

I would definitely let the brotherhood rest for the next game.

[lofty prairie]

That’s why a lot of 76 has good commie stuff cuz it’s set shortly after

[unreal zealot]

How do you know there wouldn’t be anyone to know it?

Heck it’s not really rocket science. People themselves can discover communism

[lofty prairie]

Well not anyone but fallen America and raiders and supermutants nobodies gonna taken the time to ponder about communism

Not saying it cant happen just isn’t likely imo

[unreal zealot]

Never happening, BOS are Bethesda’s lovechild + BOS are already a major faction in Chicago

[lofty prairie]

That’s like if Starwars refused to show the empire there major seller

[unreal zealot]

Bro there exists a faction of Elvis impersonaters in New Vegas

[lofty prairie]

That’s why we’re getting more pre sequel stuff now Vader prints money

[unreal zealot]

Exactly

[analog iron]

I would definitely ask for a faction like Broken Hills or Jacobstown to add more variety.

[lofty prairie]

Fair point

[unreal zealot]

East coast supermutants are incredibly stupid tho

[analog iron]

not forget broken hills are ghouls + supermutants + humans

[unreal zealot]

Aren’t they part of Unity?

[analog iron]

they are remanents after the master yeah

I suppose that for Fallout 5 they'll include remanents synths because I highly doubt they'd discard them from one game to the next.

[unreal zealot]

Ngl i truly believe we need a commie faction

Would love to see commies vs enclave

And maybe like a faction like NCR in the east?

[analog iron]

the minutemen

[unreal zealot]

They’re a small faction but maybe

[tidal tendon]

Just a quick reminder that we don't allow discussion of rumors/misinformation. If it doesn't come officially from Bethesda, it doesn't go here.

[unreal zealot]

We’re just talking about fallout 5 ideas

We’re not saying they’re true, just what we want to see

[tidal tendon]

Wasn't in reference to that.

[unreal zealot]

Oh

[tidal tendon]

But also, there is a #fallout-general-chat for that as well

[unreal zealot]

Damn i forgot i’m in the fallout tv series channel

[tidal tendon]

Happens lol. No worries.

[analog iron]

We've strayed from the conversation and ended up on the other side, sorry about that.

[tidal tendon]

Yeah I mean natural course of conversation I totally understand. Trust me I get off topic myself plenty. But end of the day I still need to send a reminder or two

[dusky flicker]

does that Argentinean fallout show trailer that confirms ||great khans, ncr and legion all fighting each other|| count?

[icy vortex]

I really enjoyed episode 4. Much better than episode 3 imo.

[dusky flicker]

hello perfect cell

[nova mango]

I honestly agree, 3 seemed like a filler episode, but I understand that it was mostly to show off The Legion, but still, felt like a little rushed and not really story building like the rest of the episodes

[hybrid moon]

so deathclaws are pre-fallout?

[analog iron]

Yes

[cunning rock]

I think I’ve seen reference to Army development for super soldiers

[red forge]

What's different about an "Argentinean" trailer?

[dusky flicker]

the fact its made by argentinians to advertise the show in argentina

[nova mango]

Courtesy of the US Government

[steep raven]

Think I saw a reupload of that trailer somewhere

definitely a bit of a weirder one

[dusky flicker]

i think its cute, i wish we made trailers like asia and south america where its like, in universe

i think the phantom menace and their pepsi alien single handedly killed that in north america lmao

i think its amazing the show is showing how trauma and survival affects people differently
as lucy is progressively stressed and traumatized she’s becoming more okay with murder and drugs
and as maximus is he’s becoming more brash and more caring

maximus cares more about ghouls than lucy does now, despite being raised in a society that views them as abominations.
lucy is caring less about ghouls despite literally traveling with one and being saved by one (he dont gaf ik lol)

[versed path]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/895061438253633606/1459019581514449028/image.png?ex=6961c15f&is=69606fdf&hm=9fdf40533f137406486bc4b1003b5377a640191c9c6601e3c3b6fe6693271459&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=995&height=888

Holds true to the show, atleast.

[midnight nova]

Thoughts on the countdown?

[nova mango]

What countdown?

[autumn jay]

What if it’s a countdown where Bethesda will in fact launch the nukes first? Can a mod confirm or deny this?

[trim quest]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-know-idk-dunno-no-idea-no-clue-gif-22858277

[nova mango]

https://tenor.com/view/anothersdays-gif-8682649277694789514

[autumn jay]

Dang.

Bethesda could’ve started the war then. 😱

[dusky flicker]

i also love coopers face when lucy says ||im good with heads! they’re just ghouls, right??||

like he smiles at first and then frowns

[dusky flicker]

fallout 3 remastered announcement
OR
an announcement for the announcement date for fallout 3 remastered
OR something else idk

i don’t think bethesda has the cajones to announce nothing twice

[ruby flint]

The ghoul is gunna be the courier

[autumn jay]

Nah this is too soon. I’d be surprised if FO3R is this close. I figured 2027 or 28 for the remake

[ruby flint]

Shadow drop on the same day as the finale

[dusky flicker]

i mean i cant say why i think itll be sooner lol so

[autumn jay]

The announcement could be anything tbh. But hopefully I’m wrong and FO3 is ready to go.

[dusky flicker]

hey i didnt say shadow drop lol

fallouts their sci fi money baby they want the ad revenue and the pre orders 👅

[autumn jay]

No it won’t be shadow dropped.

[dusky flicker]

keep the money flippinnnnnng its all i knowwwwwwww

a million dollaas

a billion dollaas

pressing E on all the gold bars in the vault dollas

[autumn jay]

I just can’t imagine that the remake would be ready this soon. Especially if it just started a year or two ago.

[tawdry field]

Can someone explain to me how hank got the nuke that blew up shady sands

Who just has a nuke on standby in a vualt

[dusky flicker]

probably given to him by the enclave, given 76’s similar context i think

[tawdry field]

Dinkleburg......

Ill never forgive the enclave for throwing PUPPIES IN A FURNACE

[dusky flicker]

the president of the united flubbin states-
who the wh
what??
i should kick you flubben butt who is this???

[tawdry field]

wipe out the enclave, the legion, and the khans

Keep the brotherhood and NCR but also genociding the railroad

[autumn jay]

I’m sure VT or someone else told him where to find it

[tawdry field]

200 yrs and theyre still kickin?

[dusky flicker]

sorrrrrr offffff

[tawdry field]

Wow

[autumn jay]

No. They told Hank before the war

[dusky flicker]

the data in the vaults has had to go somewhere

[tawdry field]

They knew shady sands was gonna exist?

[dusky flicker]

where to find nuke

[tawdry field]

This must be the work of isra- COUGH i mean the zetans

[autumn jay]

Also no. VT could have a bunker full of them somewhere

[dusky flicker]

ya silly goose

[tawdry field]

Brotherhood is so dumb theyre playing with pulse grenades and shooting up the LAST GAS CAR ON EARTH

"We want technology!" Until its something they can blow up

But then again if u told me the brotherhood could create 300 fusion cores at will and have more on the way im sold

[lofty prairie]

Must’ve been the wind ahh comment

[nova mango]

They where never the smartest

[tawdry field]

Pulse grenades are over 100 caps

Thats a crisp 100 rounds of 45.

[nova mango]

Also I thought it was a plasma granade

[storm relic]

In the newest episode, they play a song called rum and Coke, which has the words lyrics “coca cola” and we can assume it’s cannon to in universe because 99% of the songs in the show are in the games, so coca is either I’m fallout or I’m overthinking Ts

[lofty prairie]

The song is also in Mafia 2

[lilac sequoia]

So when a fallout 3 remaster ever happens. I really like what they did with the T-45 being both a mix of what it looked like in game and the frame from Fallout 4

You can see with how compact it is, it works like normal armor and Cooper walks really slow inside it

[grizzled gate]

Coca Cola is pre-divergence