fallout-tv-series

[abstract sleet]

I'm not going to lie

I love Walton Goggins as The Ghoul

Single best aspect of the TV show aside from Lee Moldaver and Lucy

I'm glad Moldaver was in the show cos she's a rare type of character

And Lucy is sooooo deeply convincing as an unintentional innocent

[shadow heath]

We actually know very little of how the BoS was doing at the time of FNV.

[errant crow]

AFAIK it seem that those taken refuge in Hidden Valley bunker + Elijah and Christine plus Veronica are the only ones left of the West Coast BoS

[shadow heath]

Elijah was exiled to the Mojave with a whole chapter cuz he didn't fit with the other Elders.

They wouldn't do that if they were doing poorly and desperately needed the manpower.

We also know there's still fighting going on west of the Mojave if you either make peace with the NCR or destroy the Mojave chapter.

I'm unsure what you base your views on that the Mojave chapter was the last on the West.

[shadow heath]

Moldaver was kinda underwhelming imo

[red forge]

Agreed, somewhat. Everything was good until the very end. Felt anticlimatic. Sure, her arc was told, but... it felt like there's much more hype built up over the season than what the conclusion paid off.

[shadow heath]

Exactly

You have everyone going ''Oh don't say that name'' and ''If you're looking for her you have a deathwish'' and then she's just some gal in charge of a small NCR outpost that gets obliterated by the BoS.

Very underwhelming.

[errant crow]

Well, I still hope some more details about her (Lee Moldaver I mean) might be disclosed in the upcoming Season 2. Including and may be starting with "how did she survived 219 without having actually aged"

[waxen silo]

at some point she had to have been in a cryo-chamber somewhere.

[red forge]

||Could be a Synth then? ||

[sturdy tundra]

She probably used her connection with Barb Howard to hitch a spot in Vault 31's cryo.

[crisp grail]

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1813607136104259608

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

‘FALLOUT’ has been nominated for 16 Emmys.

See the full nominees list: https://t.co/U9eTrmkhVP

Twitter · Jul 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

[red forge]

16...wow...

I came here as soon I saw the news about Goggins' nomination.

[abstract sleet]

Hup Walton Goggins!

You truly and well damn deserve the award, Walton

IMO the best actor in all of the show

Along with whoever played Lucy

They are a masterclass in acting in that show

[crisp grail]

Ella Purnell- also in Yellowjackets

https://tenor.com/view/ella-purnell-yellowjackets-jackie-taylor-gif-10140271793395422808

[terse sierra]

Goggins doesn’t even seem like he is acting, He seems like everyone else is just acting to go along with what he does, He is so natural in how he acts for the role, that he seems almost too in character at times

like he really acts like how a wastelander would be like, as he is roughtless and mercyless in combat, but quite calm and collected when not in combat

Edit: Grammer

In other words, He is my favorite anti-hero in the franchise to put it simply

So i am excited to see what he will do in Season 2, As i am hyped for Season 2

Anyway, I so far would rate the show a 7,8/10

[subtle dirge]

In conjunction with season 2 they should sell limited edition gray tortoise cigarettes it would be the best marketing ever plus I would love to smoke a pack of those

[sturdy tundra]

He's been in westerns before and even re-watched the Dollars trilogy for good measure for the character, he was a natural choice.

[raven wolf]

Goggins has been in many westerns

Most famously Django and Hateful Eight

[obsidian gust]

I hope Mr. House if canon becomes an ally making a deal with Lucy that he will help hunt down her father if she agrees to help him restore NV, perhaps the Mojave state back to it’s glory

[errant crow]

AFAIK current Bethesda Softwork's policy is "not state either one of Fallout New Vegas endings as the canonical outcome for Fallout: New Vegas at all". Also, we unfortunately see New Vegas Strip heavily ruined.

[terse sierra]

That statement has been debunked by loré

Both F4 and NV have confirmed endings, which is well known

Heck F76 has a confirmed ending in 2108

Since the time line goes F76 and then F1 then Tactics then F2 then F3 then FNV then FSO then F4

As the show confirms which endings are true to F4 and FNV

Heck we even hear a sfx from one of the endings of FNV in the show

An ending exclusive sfx, appearing after that ending pretty much means the source of that sfx is canon

As it is the sound of a one of a kind machine, basicly, media illeteracy is why most think there is no Canon ending to F4 and FNV

Heck, We see the junk jet in the show, confirming Nate did Infact survive F4

Anyway, Enough with rambelings, To say the show didn’t canonize endings to FNV and F4 is to be ignorant to loré

[errant crow]

And actually where did the statement about FNV canon ending established comes from. PS: About F4's ending it is a bit more obvious - since Prydwen is intact Institute's and Railroad's ending are ruled out. Also, Institute is gone (and good riddance, actually IMHO)

[ebon oracle]

I hope the Minutemen ending is canon. And I personally wish the NCR ending is canon in New Vegas. Can't wait to see what the TV show has in store for us in Season 2.

[errant crow]

I personally also wished for NCR ending being canon in FNV. However, ||we are shown that New Vegas Strip lay ruined and desolated, not being NCR stronghold||

[abstract sleet]

8.5/10 for me

[raven wolf]

Probably won’t happen

Also… Lucy is not gonna restore Mr. House to the Mojave

Lucy is no help and I don’t think Mr. House and Lucy will get along

Considering Mr. House is literally an autocrat

[abstract sleet]

Lucy will hate House's guts

No doubt of that

[errant crow]

There is actually little to no info about what Lucy now wants... save for may be "to settle some score with her father"

[abstract sleet]

I have a feeling that Lucy wants to change things in a major way - she's beginning to resent things being done however badly they are being done and The Ghoul is the shadow of Lucy

[sturdy tundra]

Cooper's fundamentally her antithesis, she means well by default, it's Maximus who's going to have to make personal decisions from here involving the BOS

[errant crow]

But does Lucy (and even Lucy and Ghoul combining their efforts) have ... means and tools to actually change "how things are run in the Wasteland"? BoS on the other hand, actually does, but their ideology is detrimental to making that happen, sadly.

[quiet cargo]

Where can I watch the show online?

[crisp grail]

Amazon Video\Prime

[red forge]

Prime. It's the only place it's available.

[red forge]

One does not always need tools to achieve the task. Tools can be acquired along the way. It takes influence, and people willing to help the cause you champion.

[errant crow]

But then again - what is Lucy's cause save for "to settle score with her father Hank"? If it is even "to settle score with all of the VaultTec/Enclave remnant" it hardly makes more sense for most of Wasteland's human (that means both baseline humans and sane ghouls actually) inhabitants

[hasty stone]

I think the idea is once your family is involved you accept responsibility to do what's "right"

[errant crow]

May be another very stupid question. But...why does BoS only ||goes for Wilzig and his chip|| and do not mount an all out assault on Enclave base in Los Angeles area?

[sturdy tundra]

The western BOS is probably still recovering from the war with the NCR even with the eastern BOS reinforcing it, and they might not even know where the base is, just the chatter when Wilzig bailed.

It's either up in the mountains somewhere or way up north where the BOS might not have much of a presence.

[random bough]

oh yeah

guys is the enclave bad what do they do???

[sturdy tundra]

US shadow government composed of presidents and other politicians, scientists, CEO's, basically anyone useful enough or powerful enough to be On The Team™️ to take over after the fall

Radicalized descendants of an already radical government, essentially seeking to genocide the wasteland of mutants (which for them is anyone other than "pure" Enclave stock from the oil rig or similar bunker, or anyone in a Vault who's remained unirradiated from the outside, etc.) so Good Clean Americans™️ can recolonize the wasteland and bring back the same corruption and misery Good American Values™️ of The Old Days™️

Which is basically just capitalism and fascism

In other words, they're what the BOS is turning into, aside from the capitalism (that's replaced by religious dogma instead; Roger Maxson is rolling in his grave at what his Brotherhood has become).

[terse sierra]

||Kimball || is confirmed ||KIA ||when ||Shady Sands|| was ||blown up|| as we see a ||photo`|| of him on the ||memorial in vault 4|| meaning ||the legion|| didn't win in ||FNV||

[dim gorge]

I thought the show was side Canon..

[novel plank]

It is actual canon, since it takes place after the games and, in theory, before Fallout 5 (a game which may very well reflect its events to the player in some way).

[eager pilot]

Yeah, Todd Howard has gone on record saying the TV show is canon.

[crisp grail]

[errant crow]

That was made rather clear, actually. However, there is now another question - does FO1 remains canon, considering that TV series lore does not connect with that from the first game, unfortunately o.O

[foggy fulcrum]

Sorry to burst your bubble but the lore of Fallout has been changing since Day 1

[crisp grail]

[novel plank]

The game and the TV show don't obliterate each other's core plots just because Shady Sands is moved and the Master missed a few obvious vaults. I mean, sure, it's far from ideal, but not deal-breaking.

[sturdy tundra]

Or those Vault doors were hidden under terrain and debris that've been cleared at some point in the 135 years since F1 took place.

[crisp crescent]

thank you bethesda for releasing the season 1 tv show on dvd keep releasing them as seasons are made! 👍

[whole coral]

Ya know that lady from AGT that sang about cooking crumble? Why not hire her as a Antagonist who sells "Iguana Bits."

[crisp grail]

that brings up a GREAT POINT

we need Iguana Bits in Fallout Season 2

[abstract sleet]

And any of the outlandish foodstuff over the series hehe

I think you can eat gecko in the games, right?

I think that's a lore question tho

[vale drum]

Via the show, I gotta say that Power Armor is probably hands down the most useless thing in the wasteland

[red forge]

Well... due to the media (live action), it has to show some form of realism...
Either way, on what terms do you consider it useless?

[vale drum]

The Bear. Bro was bleeding and dying and all the Bear did was scratch the armor and throw dude and then mauled the armor but never penetrated that it showed. But somehow dude is dying? Then we got all John Wayne Rotface just absolutely bodying the Brotherhood. Not to mention the remnants of the NCR at the end of episode 8 on 3 occasions. They dropped a BOS Tin Can with small arms fire soooo Conclusion: Power Armor is actually garbage

[red forge]

It's unrealistic to make out that power armour is some sort of god mode... So yeah, there has to be some comic relief about it.

[minor lark]

Also keep in mind The Ghoul was ex military and even mentions the weak spot of the armor prior to taking him down. It's not a stretch to think he knows about the armor.

[red forge]

Not only that, but he wore it during his time.

[sturdy tundra]

Dude's dying because he got banged around inside.

popped a leak somewhere and now he's bleeding out. It's actually a surprisingly realistic depiction of that armor; The armor's fine, it can take a hit, but you're still only flesh inside of it. All it takes is one shot in the right spot, that's always been the case for all of history.

and with the Ghoul, yeah, Cooper was explicitly there in Anchorage fighting in the T-45 and it's why he brought up the shoddy chestplate weld that it seems never got fixed (or the T-60 inherited from the T-45, unknown if the T-51 still has it).

[foggy fulcrum]

I assume the T-65 would also have it then

[sturdy tundra]

Unknown and possibly not seeing as it's almost a brand-new chestplate design

Utilizing a plackart rather than a solid piece

the whole thing takes more cues from the X-series, being an evolution of the design probably put together by some of the same teams.

possibly even being a stopgap design to hold them over until the X-01 could finish development.

[vale drum]

Idk I just kinda assumed that's the secondary purpose of the frame. Kinda keep the wearer secured in the event of something like that. As far as the shoddy chest plates. Not surprised on that one. But at the end there. When the NCR remnants were shredding a few of the background Knights with regular ol small arms fire. That one....

[sturdy tundra]

The frame's designed to take hard landings on its feet, yes. I doubt it's got quite the same protection for being slammed head-first into a rock.

Regarding the rifles, at close range, rifle rounds would logically be a potential problem for something like T-series power armor, especially through the visors and ostensibly less-armored sections like the rubber-covered joint housings

the plating might hold up fine, but shot traps and weakpoints get real juicy at those ranges

even a main battle tank can be degraded by small arms fire into combat ineffectiveness if they're shooting out the vulnerable bits (optics, tracks, exposed mechanisms, etc.)

[rain anvil]

Watching the discussion

[red forge]

In any context, head level contact is going to inflict the most damage to the wearer, so yes, if a bear that looks like it's on roids is going to swipe at the head, the person it hits is going to feel it.

[red forge]

The frame does not offer protection above the neck.

[sturdy tundra]

Above the neck's just the helmet seal, ain't nothing holding the weight of the armor up on that if you're upsidedown.

[vale drum]

Seems like a God awful design flaw but probably par for the course for US craftsmanship in the Fallout Universe

[sturdy tundra]

the armors weren't designed to handle gigantic mutant bears throwing them around

they were designed to fight other humans

they're old repurposed US military tech from before the bombs, don't forget.

and generally speaking, getting tossed around by giant mutants still isn't a common occurance for the sort usually in power armor post-war

they're typically dealing with somewhat smaller mutants like ghouls

[vale drum]

Maybe not the mutated bears but you'd think they'd at least thought about making the armor a little better in the event of like Vertibird full of Troops crashes. Sure the Vertibird is toast but the dudes in armor could survive. And as it is. Most likely would. Unless they land on the ol brain case apparently. But you make fair points.

[sturdy tundra]

My butter in crust, what do you propose they do, double up the significant amount of engineering and material needed just so the entire lower body doesn't crumple, so that the neck alone can also support the entire weight of the armor?

You, the flesh inside the metal, are always going to be a weakpoint

Just because the frame can magically keep you alive in a 100-foot drop on its feet, doesn't mean it can do it upsidedown landing on the neck.

And in any case, Titus dies because Maximus specifically withholds medical treatment, not because the armor messed up; that Titus survived the yao guai's assault up to that point means the armor worked.

[foggy fulcrum]

The Power Armor is at it’s strongest in the show honestly.

[foggy fulcrum]

You mean Knight Titus?

[sturdy tundra]

that's what I said :^)

no evidence to the contrary :^)

[foggy fulcrum]

I saw the original message

[sturdy tundra]

sight is subjective and memory is malleable

[foggy fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-watchingyou-mad-gif-14591241

[lilac sequoia]

this is the same military that rushed the T-45 into service

[sturdy tundra]

The T-45 was basically an emergency measure and worked for what it was, the T-51's where they then got things together

And the T-60 seems to be a remake of the T-45 using bits they learned from the T-51, sacrificing some of the T-51's relative protection for easier maintenance (resources were tight after all)

[sacred lake]

The T-60 was also easier and cheaper to produce

[trail zinc]

T51 was the goat only thing it lacked was radiation resistance since well you didn't need that in Alaska

[sturdy tundra]

It didn't lack it, just wasn't as high as the others, it was still principally designed with the expectation of nuclear war.

[wooden briar]

I do hope they make a Fallout 4 type show that has the Minutemen and the Rail Road

[errant crow]

Minutemen... well... it s just my opinion but that faction was lame and inept because of being unfortunately badly and boringly written in the first place....

[wooden briar]

The show may make them a bit more tougher

[errant crow]

Trouble is not with their arsenal and gear but unfortunately more with that faction basic concept and ideology.

[wooden briar]

I do agree but with the sole survivor they could turn into a good faction but we’ll have to wait and see

[lilac sequoia]

i would argue the Minutemen and Railroad would fail anyway due to the Brotherhood

Obviously the Brotherhood (or minutemen) ending is the canon ending for the Show. Meaning the railroad had to have been elimited

[crisp grail]

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/awards/story/2024-06-11/fallout-actors-walton-goggins-ella-purnell-aaron-moten

[errant crow]

FO4 Minutemen questline actually didn't necessarily meant that the Railroad be destroyed, have to be noted o.o

[slim night]

Is it ever revealed who was responsible for spoilers ||the death of the Vault 32 dwellers? I’ve been thinking to myself that it was possibly The Enclave who has control over some vaults within The United States. Given that the vault dwellers learned about the overall experiment being done on them, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was The Enclave. However I don’t know if it was ever clarified what happened to them.||

[minor cosmos]

I think they killed each other, or that's what is implied?

[sturdy tundra]

If you're still watching the series, yes, it's shown.

[slim night]

No I’ve watched all episodes lol

[sturdy tundra]

||They did it themselves, they found out about the experiments and things broke down from there. Fights, suicides, etc.||

[lilac sequoia]

it was

The point of Vault 33 and 32 were to become breeding pools with Vault Tec executives. Hence the “buddy buddy” system

The Enclave raided Vault 13 in Fallout 2 so they can continue experimentation with FEV. They don’t just murder vaults because the experiment goes wrong. If that were the case, there are many vaults such as Vault 4 that were untouched by the Enclave

[errant crow]

Pretty much it. The Enclave needed some "pure-strain" (by Enclave's meaning) humans to test "lethal FEV strain" antidote. However, the Enclave do seem to be somewhat involved in Vaults 31-32-33 life. Wilzig had knolewdge about who Lucy were and where did she came from and also there was this peculiar instance of how Vault 32 was repaired prior to its "recolonisation".

[sturdy tundra]

Wilzig would have knowledge because the Enclave and Vault-Tec worked closely together and shared technologies pre-war. ||V32 wasn't repaired until the official recolonization later in the show, I'm not sure what you're talking about.||

[errant crow]

||The issue was with WHO got V32 repaired. Who did the work since V31 is practically not manned||

[sturdy tundra]

||V33 did, after opening the passage up, as part of the recolonization. I'm not sure why that's in question.||

[jagged jungle]

Good morning.

What actors would you like to see in the Fallout tv series?

[abstract sleet]

Hmmm, Vault-Tec, that's difficult to say

Probably the person who played Machete

[lilac sequoia]

Zachary Levi as Arcade Gannon
Danny Trejo as Raul
Ron Pearlman as a news reporter

[jagged jungle]

Who would you want to play Arthur Maxson? Assuming he is still the Elder of the BOS in 2296 unless Danse or the Soul Survivor challenged him to a battle of something.

[lilac sequoia]

Tom hardy?

[crisp grail]

irony is that a Nolan is most equipd to recruit him to Fallout

[sturdy tundra]

I mean, I feel like the best guy to play Arthur Maxson is the guy who already plays Arthur Maxson in F4 (face and voice), Derek Philips.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/9/96/Derek_Phillips.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20161206191019
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/5/5c/Fo4_Arthur_Maxson.png/revision/latest?cb=20191011123741

[crisp grail]

only problem is he looks too much like Arthur Maxon and not enough like Tom Hardy

[red forge]

It's just occurred to me who Danse reminded me of... Sebastian Stan.

[ebon talon]

I hope that the next time we see the minutemen, they have their own uniforms and equipment

that's why I play with the militarized minutemen mod

[winged kelp]

how much nudity is in the show

bethesda mods please dont smite my message again its a question

[red forge]

The only nudity I recall is ||the moldaver worship scene in Vault 4||.

[lilac sequoia]

theres only like 1 episode where i remember seeing full frontal nudity?

Which ima be honest i dont actually like the Vault 4 side story?

[obsidian gust]

What if we find out in the show, Vault-Tech is owned by the corrupt American government aka Enclave tricked the corpos into giving them money to gain power!

[lilac sequoia]

i think thats what they are tryna ellude to with the mysterious man in the shadows

I wouldnt be surprised if that was the President. Theres a lot of mystery surrounding his whereabouts (Obv he went to the Oil Rig)

[wooden briar]

I look at it like this the Minutemen and the Rail Road is there deep down in the story

also at the end of season 1 it starts the New Vegas story line

[sturdy tundra]

Vault-Tec and the Enclave were former allies more or less, but post-war there's no love lost between them and they've actively raided one another's stuff since then.

They're not owned by them.

[minor cosmos]

Is that why modus has his own vault? Or did the enclave steal it or somethin

[sturdy tundra]

The US government and Vault-Tec collaborated pre-war, it's not necessarily a literal Vault-Tec Vault but it is based on their tech, yes.

[minor cosmos]

Interesting

[sturdy tundra]

See also the oil rig in F2, Raven Rock in F3, etc.

[lilac sequoia]

Many companies were under Government contract

[sturdy tundra]

Basically every company represented in the room during that big pan-company meeting in the final episode was in some way working with the US government on something as well as with one another on other joint projects.

West Tek made the power armor frames and T-series among other things, most of the robots are RobCo (and some General Atomics stuff in joint collab with RobCo), even Nuka-Cola was involved through Project Cobalt.

Everyone was in bed with everyone else, at least so long as it served them.

[trim quest]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-marvel-avengers-gif-14328153

[lofty prairie]

guys where can i find the tv show

[tidal tendon]

It is free on Amazon Prime for members 🙂

https://www.amazon.com/Fallout-Season-1/dp/B0CN4GGGQ2

[lofty prairie]

damn alr imma prob watch it

[tidal tendon]

It's really really good imo

[lofty prairie]

yeah i hope theres a free trial on amazon haha

or else im gonna have to buy

is this recent will there be more seasons?

[tidal tendon]

I believe there is a 30 day free trial for new members. And season two is green lit, it might already be in the works but not too sure on that

[lofty prairie]

w thanks

[minor lark]

Or buy the blue ray.

[lofty prairie]

guys why is the other vault wierd🥲

[tidal tendon]

I would argue they're both pretty weird

[lofty prairie]

something bad will happen am i right

[tidal tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/spoilers-pandorica-river-song-doctor-who-gif-18293417

[lofty prairie]

im scared🥲

creepy

now i hate raiders even more

[crisp grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI0Uy0V8igc

New 18 minute BTS , visual effects , props etc

some todd thrown in there too

[waxen silo]

nice, i hadnt looked to see if they had posted more.

[errant crow]

May be some very stupid question - but ||was it meant that BoS actually brutally murdered all people living the town of Filly (one of more civilised communities out there in 2296 actually)?||

[lilac sequoia]

I'd argue most residents flee'd and those that repelled were met with death. We rarely see Brotherhood take over civilized settlements and when they do its for trade. However, this chapter's elder is clearly a tyrant

[humble anvil]

Quite probably, yes. ||The Brotherhood has very frequently been portrayed as essentially tech hoarding raiders with delusions of nobility. There's a reason you find them struggling to even survive on the West Coast in Fallout New Vegas.||

||The Brotherhood doesn't really have much of a need to exist in a society that has rebuilt to the extent shown in New Vegas. At best, they are a feudal society. Heck, the TV show even makes fun of them for this when they show you the squires carrying huge bags full of heavy gear for the knights in literal power armour, who could very likely carry it by themselves with no difficulty whatsoever. ||

[waxen silo]

I don't remember this at all in the show.

[stiff blade]

||nah I think the ghoul did that, and the remaining people fled after.||

[lilac sequoia]

if u saw at the end of ep1. The town was completely fine

[stiff blade]

Yeah

[lilac sequoia]

Cameo idea: Arnold Shwarzeneggar plays grognak the barbarian who we find out is a Synth posing as the iconic superhero.

Second idea because Fallout 4 has 2 superheroes u can pose as. (other being captain cosmos and an NPC named Manta Man)

Christian Bale as the Silver Shroud with the iconic bruce wayne look with the dashing black coat+hat and silver scarf

[trail zinc]

i think he's too old to play such a character

[foggy fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-conan-abell46s-funny-guerrero-barbaro-gif-20880955

[trail zinc]

yeah but he wasn't 77 back then

he would have to play a very old synth who retired from being grognak

[lilac sequoia]

the idea is he’s an Old synth who plays grognak the barbarian which was a joke by the institute.

Soon realizing he’s a synth. He basically goes full terminator (reference to Arnold’s most popular role besides Conan the Barbarian)

[silver maple]

Did the show win any emmy's?

I know it was nominated, but can't find if it actually won any it was nominated for

[foggy fulcrum]

Fallout was also nominated for 16 Primetime Emmy Awards including Outstanding Drama Series and Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series for Goggins.

The Actual Date for Awards is September 15th, so yes Nominated, but as to won at the current moment, no.

[silver maple]

Thank you. A friend and I have been googling this going nuts, because "2024 emmy's" brings up the 2023 emmy's that happened in January

[near talon]

goggins had no nose in maze runner death cure too

[slim night]

Alright alright hear me out: Live adaptation of an Institute Courser. I just really really want to see how terrifying they actually are. As described in Fallout 4 lore.

[near talon]

agreed,played by neil degrasse tyson

[half pebble]

I just imagine Laurence Fishburne in the Matrix as X6-88

[errant crow]

1986's movie "Terminator" by James Cameron may provide some referance as of what lore-accurate courser should be like in combat

Not nearly that tough in actual game though

[slim night]

I knew someone would mention that. But honestly I cannot enjoy terminator in the slightest lol

[hasty stone]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-confused-say-what-young-gif-20141667

[surreal kindle]

Did we ever find out what those vials the ghoul was inhaling were?

[foggy fulcrum]

Anti Feral Chems essentially

[lilac sequoia]

well that is basically what the Synths are based off with a side of Bladerunner 🤷‍♂️

[slim night]

Bruh that doesn’t mean anything I just don’t like terminator lmao

[foggy fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/exterminador-do-futuro-gif-20118743

[sturdy tundra]

Not yet.

[red forge]

You don't need to like something in order to understand the reference...

[slim night]

Istg people are completely missing my point that’s wild

[red forge]

Ok so granted someone else made the comparison to the T800, what's your take on what you're hoping for?

[slim night]

I get that people were making the comparison. However that was not the intent on the original message which is what’s kinda irritating. The original message implied that if I wanted to see a courser, I should watch Terminator. I simply stated I just don’t like terminator. It’s full of cliches and just isn’t fun to watch imo. It’s just meh acting. That’s just me though.

[red forge]

Yep let's get past that. What's your expectation of the live action appearance of a Courser?

[slim night]

Also, I’m not looking for a terminator esque individual. I think having something a bit more terrifying would do the trick. Like maybe it’s a rogue courser that’s just wandering hunting down synths, still operating under code that’s still installed on it. And like idk just a scene where it’s matrix level stuff. I think it’d be cool I guess

[red forge]

By "matrix level stuff" you mean the Agent entities like Smith?

[slim night]

Yeee stuff like that

[lilac sequoia]

Then go watch matrix

[red forge]

Yeah I have doubts on comparison to the Matrix. Agents in that franchise were programmed to be powerful in a simulated world.

The post apocalyptic world in Fallout is not simulated.

T800 may be actually more reasonable.

[sturdy tundra]

Explicitly there's a project improving Gen 3 synth capabilities with what basically is their own built-in version of VATS. Between that, their overall superhuman physical capability and advanced equipment, they practically are Agents.

Crossed with Terminators, crossed with many other things. I would not be surprised if they're basically Albert Wesker from RE in the lore.

[restive aurora]

Idk I feel like they have the capabilities of t800s, but the design of the robots from iRobot

[edgy fjord]

Hoping it'll be X6 if that happens

[worn stratus]

the fallout show was mid ngl

[crisp grail]

https://tenor.com/view/go-leave-me-alone-golden-girls-you-have-to-go-now-rose-gif-22287138

[crisp grail]

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1832966117091852425

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

‘FALLOUT’ is now an Emmy-winning series.

The series won the Emmy for Best Music Supervision.

Twitter · Sep 9, 2024, 2:15 AM

[worn stratus]

I mean yeah sure it gets an award

but it breaks a lot of lore

but hey its worth the award right?

[foggy fulcrum]

Your gonna have to clarify what Lore

[worn stratus]

hmm where do I start?

W bot

[foggy fulcrum]

Did you swear in your Message? You can’t curse or else it will be automatically deleted.

[worn stratus]

damn L bot

but lets be real here, how did vault tec go to a pre-war company to the strong faction we have today kinda strange?

[foggy fulcrum]

It’s really not as strange as one would believe, Vault Tec had their hands in a lot of pies and their Vaults being built were in high demand, especially considering all those experiments and Control Vaults.

[worn stratus]

But most didn't last which is odd?

I mean the vaults that did last are the ones that where in the east

[foggy fulcrum]

I mean Red Rockets and Slocum Joes are nothing in comparison

[worn stratus]

true

[foggy fulcrum]

It could only be the most Powerful ones

[worn stratus]

Vaults aside, why didn't they mention the nuking of shady sands in any games other than the show?

thats just so stupid just to add that

[crisp grail]

doesnt this happen after the games?

[worn stratus]

maybe

Doesn't the show take place in the same year fallout 3 starts?

[foggy fulcrum]

Okay, so real quick,

1: you can’t always know in Hindsight what Future Games will do, so mentioning it’s Fate in Fallout 4 wouldn’t have made sense to begin with as it wouldn’t be relevant to even bring up.

2: It should be stated that in the original Fallout 3 Van Buren it was planned that Shady Sands would have been Nuked, something that was later done.

The Date, 2277 is thought to be an Error, as Todd clarifies the Nuking happened after New Vegas upon Shady Sands. I do wanna bring up tho that NV had brought up that the political situation in Shady Sands wasn’t exactly in a good place. While the Term, “Fall” is used to reference the end, I think it was actually meant to infer that Shady Sands was going through a downturn between 2277 and Shortly After NV.

[worn stratus]

so it was a writing mistake?

[foggy fulcrum]

Eh, even if it was there were many who interpreted the date to be when Shady Sands was beginning to go downhill, which would line up with NV’s statements on its current situation, Mistake or not it legit does make sense to some people. I just don’t always wanna assume the worst.

[worn stratus]

thats fair ig

That aside, the fact Mr. House agreed to Vault Tec's plan to blow up the world sounds strange as he literally wants to save the world in the events of FNV, idk if he changed his mind after the bombings I have no idea tbh.

[foggy fulcrum]

Well I think that lines up as they all planned to rebuild the world when it becomes decimated with them in charge, house specifically diverted the Nukes from hitting his Area. I think tho is that none of them foresaw people outside the Vaults to Survive, cause those people from the Vaults were gonna be indoctrinated and such.

“Trust in Vault Tec” And all that.

[worn stratus]

that actually makes a lot of sense woah

I mean if he had the chip he could have done more

[foggy fulcrum]

Now obviously there may be mistakes that someone mentions, like why didn’t they Use Cold Fusion to make Money instead of thinking a Nuked World they would rebuild would be better? I have to assume the resource wars were already very lucrative and they wanted to be the only companies on Earth to benefit from it in the long run and Cold Fusion while you could make Money off of it, it could also prove less lucrative for them compared to everything else.

[worn stratus]

hm so basically all this ending the world just for profit

[foggy fulcrum]

Like ultimately they had also said the show will unveil more as the seasons go on, so I can’t say for sure on certain things whether “This was a Mistake or a Plot Hole” Because it may legit be something they are holding off on explaining right away.

[worn stratus]

well we got to wait for season 2 ig

I wonder if they will include the courier in season 2 as this takes place after the events of fnv

[foggy fulcrum]

Who knows, I just know people assumed they Retconned NV, but NV Still happened, the outcome is something they’ll likely explore with the 2nd Season, but clearly something happened between NV and The Show, 15 Years apart.

[worn stratus]

maybe also they did say Mr. House will apear in season 2 but it will probably be just a cameo or a lore segment

[lilac sequoia]

We arn’t really sure how Cold Fusion is made either. At the same time this would be like asking why we dont have more Nuclear power devices than we should in real life

The reason is expense

[torn ginkgo]

And expense is dependent on the market. If Maldover’s cold fusion tech was “easily” replicable by 3rd parties, releasing it might eliminate its profitability. It dis seem like one little crystal was powering all of LA. So, in addition to ending the resource war, killing the Societal Preservation Program & government Vault contracts, the tech itself would be a financial dead end.

Greed. Greed never changes.

[lilac sequoia]

that too.

[foggy fulcrum]

And yeah I know one individual who argued they could have made money off of it, but that was never guaranteed they would be making all the Money just because they figured out Cold Fusion, Literally other Companies in this Universe would steal the Schematics to it and eventually it’s profitability would go down as everyone else has alternative Cold Fusion

Instead he argued Vault Tec is stupid and the show was poorly written because of that. I just wish people would look past their own perspective and actually understand there is more to something than what they think they know

Like Resources being a hot commodity and always in demand would allow for profit to continue being gained, once you have Infinite Energy, what’s the point of depending on those Resources that provide Power to stuff that Powers your Vehicles, your Homes, ect.

The Minute Cold Fusion is made widely available that’s it, nobody will have to pay much anymore for Essentially Free Power and Gas.

[sturdy tundra]

What money are they going to make that's going to fix the issue of the impending nuclear war? They were already filthy rich and practically ran the country. But it's a little tricky for a business to remain if its customers are too poor to buy anything / are dead.

[foggy fulcrum]

I mean it’s Impending, whether or not they dropped the Nuke didn’t matter, they were prepared for the inevitable.

[sturdy tundra]

Hell no they were not profitable times, not unless you were already among the upper echelon capitalizing on that, and even that was rapidly dwindling. They were the Resource Wars because they were running out, there's no long-term business plan that can sustain how things were going on

Vault-Tec probably has every intention of utilizing that cold fusion, but only after it's the one in control.

Courtesy of Moldaver though, Vault-Tec's now not the only ones with cold fusion

[foggy fulcrum]

Likely assumption, but as was stated, using it wasn’t in their business plan

[sturdy tundra]

(unfortunately, it is now in the hands of the BOS)

[foggy fulcrum]

Honestly I will say the idea of the Resources Dwindling may not even be as true, as resources are still something many in the Apocalypse are still getting.

[sturdy tundra]

Not the resources the old world was built on

And there's a lot fewer people draining them now

[foggy fulcrum]

Depends. you still need to make Bullets, Vehicles, Weapons, Ect

[sturdy tundra]

Bullets are piss-easy to make. Farming is hard.

Securing borders is hard. Treating wounds is hard.

[foggy fulcrum]

That doesn’t necessarily solve the Problem, I still am willing to believe however that more Resources may exist, it’s just a matter of discovering them again.

[sturdy tundra]

Principally it was oil especially that was running out. It's why cold fusion would've been the gamechanger, because it would've "fixed" the Resource Wars

which is why those in power held it in reserve for their own ends instead, contributing directly to the war in the process

[foggy fulcrum]

Oil specifically yes, however I do question how exactly was it known the Oil Spot in Alaska was the last.

[sturdy tundra]

The conceit was that we reached peak oil. This is still decades into the future

Obviously they can always change their minds, but principally it was built upon This Is All We Got

[foggy fulcrum]

True, I mean more so what made it known? Like was it stated in Universe they had the Technology to find where Oil lies? Or that this was the only Spot known completely at the time and for all anyone knew… this was the last Oil

[sturdy tundra]

Considering they were already scrambling to find more oil even with the height of their technology

The point of the Great War isn't to be picked apart and what-if'd, ultimately

It's to be understood, to contextualize the same mistakes mankind makes even into the apocalypse. War, war never changes.

[foggy fulcrum]

Ultimately yea, because the point of it is to say, “All we know is this and that, and it led to this”

Maybe it wasn’t the Last Oil at all, maybe everyone just panicked and the war started for nothing.

[sturdy tundra]

Since oh yeah, the Gun Runners have been pumping out quality weapons and ammo for nearly two centuries. But when nobody's actually cooperating when they should be, nothing gets done. Cities still aren't rebuilt, knowledge is still being lost

The BOS is explicitly stealing anything basically more advanced than a toaster

and then not doing anything with it

Two centuries in, war still has not changed.

[lilac sequoia]

the BOS on being the luckiest faction to still be around

[foggy fulcrum]

Also I spoke with a person well versed in Anthropology and also a huge fan of Fallout, Terical for those who may not know, he stated that Civilization is complicated, and doesn't have a linear progression track.

And with the East Coast being Nuked harder than the West, it also is what caused them to develop differently.

[lilac sequoia]

Geography and culture r important aspects in civilization building

Arguably the west coast has more access to different types of firearms compared to the east. But the East has more military grade equipment like Power Armor and Service models

[foggy fulcrum]

Which I still wish people looked at instead of saying “Oh Bethesda just wants them to be in a Wasteland Forever and never develop”, but even then I feel that isn’t true as in each game under Bethesda we are dealing with the problems that prevented them from Growing, thus allowing them to in the future.

[sturdy tundra]

To be fair, Bethesda does have an issue with scale, I feel like. They've been getting a little better about it for sure, but there's been stuff they have had to kinda backfill and line back up as they've gone.

I can more easily justify Fallout as it is now compared to 5-10 years ago, essentially, and I hope things continue to improve.

[foggy fulcrum]

They have yeah, Fallout 76 essentially giving us more indication at what different Power Armor is better at compared to others

[lilac sequoia]

i would appreciate some locations that are improved and industrialized

Games like Red Dead 2 arn’t scared to have an industrialized location like Saint Denise that is totally different to the wild west themes.

[sturdy tundra]

[The Pitt intensifies]

[lilac sequoia]

what always appealed to new vegas is the Strip itself. Without it i feel just makes it a very generic fallout game

Fallout 4 definitely has some iconic places. I dont live in Boston so idk what is “iconic” besides Bunker Hill

[foggy fulcrum]

It’s an indication of Civilization having grown back in a lot of ways, over out West they have a better time at it.

Also I was gonna Say Diamond City and Sanctuary, The BOS Airport.

But in The Strip there definitely is a lot jam packed into it

[lilac sequoia]

I would have wished Diamond City felt… bigger

I dont think thats true you cant remember. you would because the game’s linear design

boring yes

[lilac sequoia]

But to not remember names would mean u didnt play the game

[lilac sequoia]

Fallout 4 doesn’t have a linear path so you’re definitely gonna miss out on locations in 1 playthrough which can either be good or bad

[lilac sequoia]

because once you save the minute men, your quest is instantly to Diamond City

[foggy fulcrum]

I feel people also need to understand you can love a game but that doesn’t necessarily mean you will remember things from it

You just know you had a good time

[lilac sequoia]

i get it if people dont remember. The point im making is New Vegas doesnt have many interesting locations but because the story revolves around those environments. Locations become tied to the story

i mean i cant rlly be the judge. Obisidian did go to Vegas and actually use those for inspiration

[sturdy tundra]

Having lived in and been through that neck of the woods myself, I can confirm, a lot of desert is just desert.

It's a lot of really cool kinds of dirt and rock, lot of really pretty vistas, and also a whole lotta

nothin'

[lilac sequoia]

Reno isnt in New Vegas

nvm read wrong

i mean it seems like u remember more locations

[foggy fulcrum]

I will say while I did enjoy New Vegas, I have never been a fan of Wastelands only ever being just Desert with a lot of inbetween, it’s kinda why I enjoy 3 more for this reason.

[lilac sequoia]

Reason i enjoy New Vegas is because i dont play it like an Open world where i look through every nook and cranny. The story is very linear that i’ll explore everything

Which some may say thats what makes an open world weak but for me thats what keeps me engage knowing everything is a desert

[lilac sequoia]

if it didnt have the unique engaging quests and cultures and the Strip i wouldnt have cared

The communities in New Vegas are what carry. Which in turn makes the locations somewhat valuable

i do like that every location in Fallout 4 is lootable

However fallout 4’s loot pool isnt interesting if im not getting a Legendary Weapon by late game

[foggy fulcrum]

Although with Drivable Land Vehicles in Starfield it changes a lot on how Fallout 5 may be designed

[lilac sequoia]

vs visiting Vault 34 its tedious but the Armory is worth it

another point that makes a good open world is when any location u see, u can go there. Which is something i feel Fallout 4 lacks when walking out of the Vault

i believe NV does have locations with identity more than Fallout 4 has. Especially when most of the fast travel locations are so cluttered up they dont fit on the pipboy map

Good Neighbor, Diamond City, Covenant, BOS Airport, Sanctuary are locations of real settlements and im sure im missing more

But my issues with fo4’s maps is there are good places but i find it hard to locate when i started playing

Its a Quantity over Quality approach here

[lilac sequoia]

and when i do find them its because a random quest marker told me

[lilac sequoia]

The OST isnt that great. Im not talking about the radio music but the actual OST

[hot shard]

Fallout 4's map really isn't that difficult to navigate
DC is amusingly easy to get to

[lilac sequoia]

no its not, because the big marker on the map says “go to diamond city”

[hot shard]

Not because of the giant blue glow, or by just following any road going South and then crossing the river

Goodneighbour I get, that's easy to take the wrong turn (turn right, just before Mass Fusion)
But not Diamond City

[lilac sequoia]

however, you already know to go to diamond city through concord so identifying its location doesnt need visual interpretation

However, my point is the way the main quest is structured which is where the large majority of players will follow may skip a lot of untouched locations because it didn’t come their way.

[hot shard]

The main quests send you to most big portions if the map, and if not than there the 'big' sidequests which send you there
Like cabot house sending you up to Parsons
ofcourse ignoring the Minutemen which send you everwhere

[lilac sequoia]

And many side quests btw are through word of mouth of an npc that will mark on your map. Im not against NPC’s sharing locations but its not really exploring through player exploration

[hot shard]

I don't mean "Check out this location" side quests
I mean actual quests like cabot house, lost patrol

[hot shard]

I think Fallout 4 does a pretty decent job of making exploration a rewarding thing to do
like at the start of the game, seeying Abernathy farm, from there going to Wicked Shipping or USAF Olivia from which you might go to Ticket Excavations

there's always something to find by venturing out

[lilac sequoia]

Yes but i personally dont think i can recognize locations because its mostly locations on top of locations. Its the big settlements that to me will matter most

[hot shard]

wym you can't recognize locations?

[lilac sequoia]

• Sanctuary is the first location you’ll visit
• Concord is the first place to meet Preston
• Diamond City is the place you go straight to as the 2nd main quest
• Corvega Assembly Plant is huge, u cant miss it
• Cambridge Police to meet Danse
• Cabot House because their own mercenary body guard wants to hire you
• Glowing Sea because its a glowing Sea

[lilac sequoia]

But once we start talking about the individual locations in the city side of the common wealth, thats where stuff gets confusing

[hot shard]

how long have you played the game?
It sounds like you just need to spend some time to learn the map
it's a big one, takes time to learn your way around beyond the basics

[lilac sequoia]

As you said before, yea good neighbor is pretty hard to find. The combat zone near goodneighbor. Swan’s Pond is somewhere around but not a place you can visually find from a far.

Its a city i get it but sometimes cluster is too much cluster that fast traveling on a minimap becomes a million locations that dont even fit on the map

and i’d prefer if this conversation goes to #fallout-4-chat since its fitting

[hot shard]

Yeah good point

[raven wolf]

I would have a bigger problem with the “Go to Diamond City” part itself

In many ways Fallout 4’s map designs is comparable and also contrasting to Fallout 3’s

Fallout 3 is very go anywhere and ignore the story (which is great because the story isn’t good and the exploration is)

Fallout 4 is a lot more gradually gradient, a term I just invented for having level progression get difficult over certain locations in an open world game.

[raven wolf]

Anyways, this makes going to Diamond City itself, actually very tedious and it kinda feels like the mid game when you reach there when it’s just the very beginning of the actual story.

Which as you can imagine, isn’t good for pacing, which is a lot like Fallout 3. It’s smart because the stories are not developed well and the game world and exploration is very developed well.

Both games just have a different game design philosophy than New Vegas

It’s the Bethesda charm which makes games like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout the open world juggernauts they are.

They prioritize the player doing anything, anytime, anywhere and not the mainline stories

[raven mural]

Let's bring the conversation back to the show please, #fallout-general-chat is more suitable for Fallout as a series

[raven wolf]

Oh sorry

I thought this was the Fallout 4 channel

[torpid surge]

So why did the NCR use rpd machine guns when they were extremely uncommon by that time?

[lilac sequoia]

The Fallout 3 Chinese Assault Rifle is very similar to an RPD so parts of it clearly arn’t uncommon

I think whats disappointing is that the NCR arn’t using AR’s or M1 garands

[sturdy tundra]

I mean there's a reason AK's are so ubiquitous even IRL

they're trash, but they're maintainable trash, and your best gun in the post-apocalypse is the one that A. fires and B. has ammo

they're basically the next step up from grease guns, which are a step up from literal pipeguns

[sturdy tundra]

Who says RPD's (or related designs) are uncommon there? The Gun Runners have been pumping out recreations and modifications of prewar designs (plus whatever homebrews) for the better part of two centuries, it's why guns and ammo are so prevalent.

[lilac sequoia]

Owning a gas powered weapon in general is an improvement vs a blowback

[lilac sequoia]

well i think the reason he has a fair point is because the Gun Runners arn’t producing much commie weapons in their production

Many of New Vegas’ weapons are American

[sturdy tundra]

Gun Runners would be mostly having access to American weapons, yes, and they'd probably be the most popular. But there's other weapon designs out there too, and they're not the sort to turn their noses up at that sort of thing.

[lilac sequoia]

Fallout 1&2 had the AK-112 and that was basically it for the west

[sturdy tundra]

Type 93's are in active use in F3, they're not some rare gun

[lilac sequoia]

yea but its also good to remember that they were only in f3. They didnt appear in 4 due to time/development but nonetheless they dont make an appearance in New Vegas. Even tho NV uses tons of assets from that game

[sturdy tundra]

There's also 15 years between NV and the show

Even if Type 93's weren't really in vogue at the time, obviously by the time of the show that design has made its way across to the west coast.

And since the NCR typically uses Gun Runner stuff, that means they're probably pumping out their own recreations now.

[lilac sequoia]

I would argue the Gun Runners probably dont make Type-93’s because the AR platform is proven to be better and cheaper.

[sturdy tundra]

Could also be they didn't include it in FNV because they already had a slew of other guns in that niche. Too Many Guns™️ of certain sorts was explicitly a Thing the devs brought up.

It doesn't mean those guns aren't found out there canonically, they just didn't include them in gameplay.

In an ideal world, you do have access to like 50 different pistols and rifles etc. each, but they ain't gonna model that.

[lilac sequoia]

Personally i like Fallout games with different types even if their gameplay is similar.

Its both artistic and fills satisfactions for people of the hobby

[sturdy tundra]

Oh absolutely, but again, they ain't gonna take the time to model that, they gotta get the thing out the door. DLC and mods tend to go from there.

[lilac sequoia]

As someone who loves the AM180 im surprised its even in NV

If i didnt care about NV’s setting or story. The collection of guns already had me hooked

[sturdy tundra]

Being particular about the guns was definitely a thing in FNV, it's why for instance the sniper's a Hecate II and not a Barret .50 like everyone else was doing

[lilac sequoia]

Well its also cause they def took the time to pick some exotic weapons from ww2 and cold war era

[sturdy tundra]

Oh that's always been a Fallout thing

G11E my beloved

The G11 canonically being a success in Fallout's timeline explains basically everything about its near-war gun designs.

[lilac sequoia]

well a Fallout 1&2 thing i feel. You’ll never see this mass arsenal in 3 and 4 a lot

[sturdy tundra]

How does the Colt 6520 work? G11 space magic clockwork or something, that's how.

[lilac sequoia]

there are real slide revolvers and mag fed ones. Their just absolutely pointless

But if they do it how i think it do it, makes sense they were pushed out

[sturdy tundra]

Yes, but none of them are quite what happened to the 6520. There's definitely historical prototypes that would work

It's basically just been an unspoken running gag that the 6520 was made wrong and nobody's ever gonna fix it

but certainly you could imagine it's just Fallout being Fallout, all almost the cool weapons platforms in the 20th century that got canceled instead were successes in Fallout's history

[lilac sequoia]

theres modders that assume its a break actions (some fallout 4 mods)

Personally i imagine its some really horrifying Frankenstein combination of the Landstag revolver and Unica but on top instead of bottom

[sturdy tundra]

sometimes because they showed up at different times where they were more successful (the G11's a later design IIRC in Fallout's timeline)

[lilac sequoia]

The fallout show is the only modern fallout where we get real guns more often than pipe weapons

like yea 76 added stuff like a Remington 870 pump action…. They brought back the Single Action…. thats kinda all i can remember

[raven mural]

Hi, let's bring the conversation back to the show please!

[errant crow]

RPD is NOT part of the AK series of weapons. It was designed by Vasily Degtyaryov (the same weapon designer, who created earlier Soviet Army's standard light machine gun - DP27/DPM) in 1944

[errant crow]

The "AK112" from Fallout 1&2 is.. a strange thing... actually. However, there is a significant catch - as per Soviet Army's weapon naming rules an automatic rifle didn't have to either designed by Mikhail Kalashnikov or being derived from his design (the AK as it is in real life).. on the contrary, any automatic rifle, whose principle designer (or the one, who adapted a foreign-originating design for manufacture in USSR) has surname staring with "K" could have been called an "AK".

[errant crow]

There is ... and that reason is basically that AK variants were mass produced and exported. Also, it must be noted that considering post-apocalyptic scenarios there is a truth that any gun that is within one's grasp and is in good enough condition to function is million times better that no gun at all. Also what is "a step up from grease guns"? M3A1 "Grease gun" was a WW2-era designed SMG made with simplicity in industrial-site manufacturing in mind. It was literally made for mass production by General Motors Inland Division (the gun's principal manufacturer) and was actually not well suited for hand-crafting production. Considering FO4's pipe guns... if we look at what they were meant to be concepts are rather viable .... we basically have what meant to be a) an open-bolt carbine/SMG built for pistol-caliber ammunition (however, strange to see rather rare .38 Special revolver cartridges used istead of 9x19mm), b) a bolt-action rifle built for rifle cartridges (a 5,56mm variant AFAIK should be also available), c) a revolver (.308 variant is.. strange, yes)

[lilac sequoia]

my mistake i keep confusing the RPD with the RPK

then my brain remembers the RPD was belt fed

[lilac sequoia]

i genuinely hate that bethesda’s “intention” was to make guns by a guy who may not entirely know how to make guns

Even though Nick is a war veteran who probably had to learn how to put an M16 together or whatever they made him do in training

[errant crow]

The concept behind FO4's featured pipe guns as hand-made weapons is actually feaseble. There were rather functional hand-made weapons of all three varieties of what are FO4's handmade guns. The execution if we consider pipe-gun in-game modelling is not that great, sadly. It is also worth noting that as for "handmade rifles" AK's are not that easily made in workshop setting, and actually an AR18-patterned rifles might have been more suitable for the role.

[lilac sequoia]

its either the Metro series or Rust i actually like their handmade weapons

Im just still confused why most guns in Fallout 4 arn’t in .223/5.56 and 9mm

[lilac sequoia]

sure 10mm is the norm but then they could easily make more guns chambered in 5mm since NV assault carbine and ak-112 used it

[errant crow]

Also, actually, AFAIK it would make more sense that VG45 "Volkssturmgewehr" (a primitive design with "gas-delayed blowback" operation however with actualy delaying not working at all, but due to heavy reciprocating mass of it's bolt and bolt carrier a gun functioned normally as direct blowback one) be used as a "handmade rifle", while the AK could be used as a platform upon which "radium rifle" (a pre-nuclear war industial made weapon) was designed. Pipe guns logically should have been 9x19mm with the option to upscale them to .45 caliber and 10mm.

[errant crow]

There is actually a theory that the "AK112" was simply a Soviet-made model of AR15/M16 platform, while the "assault carbine" was its export made variant. Both in 5mm (most likely, early 21-st century Soviet standard infantry cartridge).

[lilac sequoia]

well ye in fallout 76 there’s a skin of the Handmade Rifle that looks very similar to the AK-112

but its design is also similar to the AR

[errant crow]

Also considering the Eugene Stoner's AR10/AR15 platform. A thing worth noting. Among handmade weapons, featured in the TV show we had a peculiar design (https://www.imfdb.org/images/f/f5/Fallout_TV_S1E01_09.jpg - used by a raider on the right, https://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/d/d7/Fallout_TV_S1E02_30.jpg/800px-Fallout_TV_S1E02_30.jpg - in Ma June's store)... rifle is notable of looking like the very first AR10 prototype (here we can see as it looked in real life https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Ffirst-ever-ar-10-prototype-takes-bar-magazines-v0-oojqhqsklktc1.jpeg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dda0f48177787ede8292d127a71e0a141fcf4714f )

[lilac sequoia]

saw those and was delighted to see some more unorthodox weapons used that could be pipe weapons

The snakeoil merchant guy had a pipe weapon of an AR wrapped in cloth when he was tryna commit suicide putting a gun in his mouth

[errant crow]

However, as for me it was strange that no M16A1 rifles were used by Lee Moldaver's faction that consisted of NCR soldiers (may be former NCR soldiers considering mr. Todd Howard's explanation that the Republic actually survived elsewhere outside LA area).

Strange because as I reckon TV show was filmed in USA, and I think it should be rather easy for a registered movie studio to lend surplus weapons from nearest US Army or National Guard inventories.

[crisp grail]

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[sturdy tundra]

Could also be their stocks were picked clean over the years so then all they're left with is the leftovers like the AK platforms. Also where did he mention that explanation (it's 110% sensible, just I don't recall him ever providing it)

[sturdy tundra]

It was only partially in the US, a lot of shots were actually in Africa.

Regardless, weapons aren't an issue, they can just bring in airsoft versions for all it matters or dress up other props to look like them.

they chose to give them AK's.

[errant crow]

Well, AFAIK no actual AKs were used in the show. The only Soviet-designed guns present were two PPSh submachineguns.... not overly far-fetched actually, since China did use to produce PPSh variant once and since as of the year 2077 according to current Fallout universe lore war was not going well for People's Republic of China so producing PPSh SMGs (these were very cheap in industrial-grade mass production) as reserve weapons to cover shortages of more modern guns like Type-93 assault rifles (FO3's "Chinese assault rifle") and then such guns could have ended up as trophies. Also it is very much possible that Moldaver's faction was considered rogue by whatever NCR government there may be after the Shady Sands disaster and as such they arm themselves with whatever firearms they have at their disposal.

However it is also possible that PPSh SMGs were used as stand-ins for FO4's "combat rifle" (its .45 caliber variant most likely) and RPDs was used as stand-ins for FNV's "light machine gun" ( https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Light_machine_gun_(Fallout:_New_Vegas) )

[sturdy tundra]

I kinda doubt it, since they made a point of making real props of every other weapon

[sturdy tundra]

I'm meaning "AK" as in "AK-style"

Even if they're modified Type 93's for example technically

[lilac sequoia]

it was an IGN interview

https://youtu.be/7dSeF1CMChs?si=499_kT1KrNh3Hh1Q

He stated the NCR arn’t gone

[sturdy tundra]

Aha, perfect

yeah no, the NCR was pushing out to Nevada, we're sensibly gonna be seeing more of them in S2

It's just their core NewCal (or at least SoCal) branch is uh

slightly in shambles

[lilac sequoia]

Nvm this may not be the correct interview

but from the PCgamer article he does say that quote

https://www.thegamer.com/todd-howard-says-you-havent-heard-the-last-of-the-ncr-in-fallout/

[sturdy tundra]

So that figures then. No real major sweeping changes overall, but definitely pieces on the board are getting shaken up for S1. That's fair.

S2 should be really interesting

[lilac sequoia]

i mean wasnt the president sent down to Baja California with the rest of the Rangers

[sturdy tundra]

Kimball? Died in the blast, allegedly. His picture's on the memorial (or their altar, I forget) in the Vault.

[lilac sequoia]

well according to Hanlon. Most of the Rangers are finding ghosts in Baja.

Unsure whats going on with that

i can assume many Rangers retired or gone on as Desert Rangers for those that had just joined the treaty

While the rest may be at Camp Golf

[sturdy tundra]

Well not necessarily, if the NCR's still active in the frontier regions, they still got jobs to do

whole reason they folded the Rangers into the NCR, they've all got jobs to do now.

[lilac sequoia]

well the reason the Rangers joined the NCR was cause they couldnt handle the Legion.

If the NCR isn’t at height of its power as it should, i can assume many retired

The scene of the ghoul shooting the lead farmer’s son was an obvious hint he was once a Ranger through dialogue

———————
If House’s ending is the canon one i honestly am not even against it

I feel like him winning in a way disapproves the idea that Fallout is a critique on capitalism

[errant crow]

We actually don't know that even... we don't know what happened to Hub, for example.

[shadow heath]

So when Quintus says the Brotherhood used to "rule the wasteland", what do you guys think he is talking about?

Personally, I believe this is a case of Bethesda canonizing another part of Tactics, as the Brotherhood at the end of that game rules a considerable portion of the midwest.

And then something must have happened that caused the BoS in the midwest to collapse, or at least be greatly reduced in size - which would've made Quintus and his chapter flee westward.

[lilac sequoia]

Rule could be an exaggeration

[shadow heath]

That'd be one hell of an exaggeration tho.

[lilac sequoia]

Theres a lot of ways to interpret what he meant

[shadow heath]

Like what?

[lilac sequoia]

Such as when the brotherhood started to explore other states. During Maxson’s era

Or when they were technologically advanced than others before the NCR

the brotherhood had many chapters in its prime which could be another reason

[shadow heath]

But how is that "ruling the wasteland"?

Also, the Brotherhood has a larger sphere of influence now than it did under Roger Maxson, given they reign supreme in the capital wasteland and hold a presence in the Commonwealth.

[errant crow]

Considering that good ending is canon to FO3 that is somewhat true - East Coast BoS practically were left as the dominant power in Capitol Wasteland

[agile nova]

Sorry I'm far too late for the series, but how does vault 33 dwellers can't detect the raiders with their pip boy right from the start, while i watched lucy detected that man who married her is from the surface

[lilac sequoia]

the power of unintentionally bad writing

prob didnt think that far, its like how Gandalf could have just rode the eagles and deliver the ring to Mordor

[agile nova]

And as far as we play the fallout games, raiders don't really carry the radiation from outside?

[sturdy tundra]

He'd be one Maiar versus Nazguls on fellbeasts, various other creatures and magics, even including Sauron himself stepping out if need be (he's not stuck as the Eye, he is physically reforming). It's not bad writing, the whole point is that the only way in is to sneak in, anything else will be spotted and fended off.

[sturdy tundra]

Probably weren't running their giger counters since there'd be little reason to waste those resources in the Vault (wear and tear, etc.)

[sturdy tundra]

Canonically everyone on the surface is irradiated and mutated to some extent, it's literally been a plot point in multiple games from the start

It's just gameplay-wise there wouldn't be much point in having it ticking every damn time you're fighting someone

It's why Vault Dwellers can be valuable sources of "pure" human stock.

[lilac sequoia]

its cause the writers didnt think that far ahead basically

which is OK

[agile nova]

So the writer didn't collab really much with bethesda guys? Or? For a fact check

[lilac sequoia]

i mean as in this kind of thing is common where they didnt expect the audience to think so deep into it

because it really has 0 impact on the outcome

[agile nova]

I know

At least they get the stimpak sfx done right😂

[lilac sequoia]

trooo

[crisp grail]

https://blog.borisfx.com/emmys-2024-framestore-on-the-complex-world-of-fallout-vfx

This doesnt have too much new stuff that hasnt been seen in the Framestore VFX Deep dive but it does have some cool sliders built in to see pre and post visual effects on certain scenes

[edgy fjord]

Some dude posted an interesting theory video

||He claimed the Brotherhood of Steel had assimilated Caesar's Legion||

[lilac sequoia]

i dont think u needa spoiler. Its just a theory (that most will find unlikely no offense)

But that is an interesting idea

but Ceasar didnt like the Brotherhood, so unless this new leader is making an exception. sure

Lanius prob wouldnt care

[odd kettle]

All I want from season 2 is for Veronica from NV to at least make a cameo.
Have her be at bar or something with another girl, Her outfit be a dress made from her robes. Then make her come up and absolutely obliterate someone’s head with her power fist. I’d be cool if she just did that, didn’t say anything and never appeared again lol

[lilac sequoia]

I want a cameo for Raul and Ganon too

[edgy fjord]

I'm hoping for Marcus

[lilac sequoia]

which are possible considering they are both real actors in hollywood

Danny Trejo would prob do it if the schedule is right

[edgy fjord]

No doubt about that

[odd kettle]

Those 2 would be awesome for consistent ish characters.

[lilac sequoia]

The issue is the Legion and BOS cultures clashing

BOS take in anyone to join (if orphans prob)

The legion gentrified the tribes in new Canaan

[odd kettle]

Maybe Veronica played a role in that

[lilac sequoia]

The BOS take anyone whether female or male. The Legion are mysoginist and slavers

they accepted the Khans but they are just a gang. Pissing them off probably doesnt do well for allegiances

[odd kettle]

Oh I was talking about the West Coast adopting the East recruiting “doctrine”

Veronica basically literally says the BoS will die if they don’t change

[lilac sequoia]

since Bethesda has kept the BOS alive. That quote doesnt age well

The BOS in general is very much alive

Even if the Nevada chapter did die off due to the Courier's actions. Those members will go on to other chapters.

[odd kettle]

Lyons and his group were sent east because the High Elders felt his influence and ideals might become a threat. In NV it’s more or less implied that the High Elders and West Coast BoS as whole are still highly xenophobic. Obviously NV takes place after 3 and in 3 Comms. between the East & West still weren’t reestablished. Something happened between 3-NV-4 for the show to have changed their recruitment standards. Hopefully Veronica found her way to Lost Hills after leaving the Mojave. Hopefully she convinced them they were wrong or at least got the ball rolling for A. Maxson.

If he’s alive. If he’s dead she’s a good reason as to why the changed

[lilac sequoia]

I dont think Veronica plays any role after NV because her story is very much about a lost cause.

• She lost christine
• Elder Elijah turned out to be a mad man
• The Elders of the Nevada chapter will not listen to her
• At a certain point she can become a member of the Followers of the Apocalypse who DO meet her standards of how they can make real changes in the world

or so she "almost" joins if i remember because you end up ambushed

[odd kettle]

Her family is the BoS, she wouldn’t just abandon them completely.
The reasons above the FOA one are good reasons she wouldn’t give up the BoS completely. IMO and having most of thousands of hours on NV being accompanied by her lol.

Personally the reason I want her in the show at least as cameo is because all of her endings are depressing and to me she deserves something “better”.

[lilac sequoia]

ur forgetting that when u go through with her quest lines, paladins will attack her because they believe she is poisoning the Elder with her words

She can't come back to the Brotherhood because they despise her

that is if the Courier ever meets her and do her quests.

If the courier never met her, her story never happens and stays in the same position she always has been. a scribe

Meaning she will never have any real impact on the BOS about her ideas of "change" like Lyons did.

In addition, the show i dont believe changed their recruitment rules. They took in Maximus as a child.

He was "sponspored" by a knight or paladin. But he's a child and that can be easily brainwashing for someone at his age

TLDR: The best ending for Veronica is being exiled by the BOS and lives the rest her life in solitary. But she would go on to still repair old equipment and do social work for Mojave scientists

[lilac sequoia]

That is IF the Nevada chapter is still alive and a Treaty with the NCR happens

which from the TV show, def didnt happen

or did but wasnt 15 years

[odd kettle]

Yes but you can also talk them down (I believe). Regardless she’s well aware of the BoS’ extremism especially since she was exposed to Father Elijah. I don’t think the bad apples would be reason enough for her to cast away her family. As for her West Coast BOS Ideals, those are probably tarnished heavily or shattered. Put simply, if I was her, Id feel betrayed by the BOS’ ideals but at the very least attempt to tell the High Elders the failures of the Mojave chapter.

If the Mojave chapter was destroyed, then her family is dead. Veronica is loyal and would want revenge or to keep it from happening again. Maybe the changes we see in the show even convinced her to join so she may enact revenge directly but I admit that’s definitely not likely.

At the very least I want her & the Father Elijah story arc to have meaning for the BoS especially since it fits well.

[lilac sequoia]

I want to sound civil. I like where your ideas are and i as well love NV companions more than any game.

But you also have to look at the evidence shown and ask whether or not ALL Companions deserve a happy ending

[odd kettle]

A cameo of her alive and at least talking to other woman is a lot more realistic then she just becomes a hermit in my opinion lol. As for involvement in the BoS I don’t think she’s gonna be apart of them after what happened but she definitely still cares for them. It makes sense she’d leave and eventually somehow tell Lost Hills what happened with the Mojave chapter & Father Elijah

[lilac sequoia]

because im on the fence where Veronica has the most sad ending out of all the companions yet the most happiest from the start

You're existance imo absolutely screwed her over and thats what ive realized when i first played the game.

[odd kettle]

That’s a very good point but I still don’t think it’s realistic to have a character with to simply be hermit when it’s all said and done. If anything her decline sets her up to have more potential outside of just being a companion in NV.

I’d like to see her take a Marcus Role or at least be mentioned to have given a report about father Elijah. Makes the new BoS structure and all that more believable.

[lilac sequoia]

All of the companions end up a hermit depending on what ending u get. It just so happens she is alone because she lost everyone

Ganon can go on to do great things for people because he is a Follower and depending on if NV is independent or not

Raul becomes the gunslinger he should be.
Cassie gets to live off with the weight off her shoulders for her caravan destroyed

Lily goes on to hopefully fix her memories as well

What i mean is the reason she ends up a hermit for the good ending is because thats what her faction/culture represents. no matter what, she will always be isolated and cast aside because her beliefs are seen as outdated for what the wasteland has become

Just like how Ganon cant keep representing the Enclave. It died out and he never lived through it. The old timers are retired from that life and he can move on as a follower

[odd kettle]

•Lilly is losing her mind lol.
•Raul can have a good ending. Just because her prefers to be alone doesn’t mean he isn’t happy lol.
•Boone was Boone before everything and yeah he’s more Boone now lol.
Arcade Gannon- Has the same problem the enclave & all the factions do. They want change the world by themselves and get butt hurt when they can’t. Think he’ll get over it.

[lilac sequoia]

If Veronica goes on to do big things. It means the best ending for her didnt happen

and no matter what ending, she will always be living alone.

[odd kettle]

She’s allowed to get laid and be at bar. Just cause you lose one love doesn’t mean there isn’t more.
Yeah if I was her I’d steer clear of the BoS but wouldn’t want the Mojave Chapter’s destiny to be the same for the whole of the BoS. I’d at least send a warning report and then go get laid!

Veronica is a girl tho so remember she probably needed a while longer to get over Christine lol.

[lilac sequoia]

i dont think getting laid is at all her story arc in NV, nor is finding love

[odd kettle]

If my idea for this cameo came true her story arc kinda comes full circle. Then she can written off however basically

No it’s not but my whole reason for the cameo is to let her fans know she finally got past the lost of Christine, got her dress AND of course giving us a CGI show version of her exploding a head lol

The BoS tie is just a good way to give her relevance & or set her up for a Marcus type role in the series

[odd kettle]

I don’t think any of that conflicts with any of the endings unless she’s just killed off

To tie it off her voice actor is Felicia Day and she also does movies & shows. I doubt she’d want to pass up the opportunity to bring her NV role to life in one of the biggest & most Popular TV shows ever made.

[winged kelp]

in episode 5, why cant ||maximus move when the fusion core is removed from his power armor||

in the games you cans still use power armor with no fusion cores, you just have reduced movement

[lilac sequoia]

1. gameplay feature
2. How would you move 2 tons of metal on yourself when the power source is gone

[sturdy tundra]

See the NCR suits where they just stripped out the servos and such entirely so it's just some plating left

Heavy, but usable without training

[lilac sequoia]

I cant imagine what the new lore implication for that is with the Fallout 4 system now

Honestly im more in favor of a Power Armor that’s more scrapped and powered by Microfusion cells

[sturdy tundra]

I don't think the F4 system changes that much in this regard, it just means the suits are gonna be a little bigger than they were in FNV

[lilac sequoia]

It would be pointless to even wear the plating for how huge it is

[sturdy tundra]

They'd still keep support structures and such intact, it's just you're the one moving it now, not the mechanisms

Being able to just plop into position, lay down heavy fire and not worry much about return fire is a lot better than "pointless"

It's kinda why the BOS use them.

[lilac sequoia]

Its pointless because u cant move

[sturdy tundra]

I mean, obviously they can, the whole conceit is that they're heavy as hell but otherwise usable as-is

Power armor was still heavy plating even pre-F4

[lilac sequoia]

lets say hypothetically you somehow manage to get into position.

1. How are you even moving your arms to reload or shoot heavy weapons like a minigun when both your arms are covered in titanium

[sturdy tundra]

Realistically, machinegunners operate in teams, so you'd have a crew behind you handling your reloads.

Even if you're on your own, there's many weapons in Fallout clearly designed for power armor usage

If it's that much of a problem, you just give them weapons that aren't tricky to reload. A fatman is hard to muck up.

At the end of the day, the conceit is that they've figured out how to make them work, and there's sensible reasons why they'd be able to do that.

[lilac sequoia]

the point isnt reload, its how immobile you are with half a ton on you

[lilac sequoia]

its impossible for anyone to move with that weight

[sturdy tundra]

You'd be surprised how much weight someone can bear when it's properly supported

Again, these suits are explicitly stripped out, they're not gonna be anywhere as heavy as the full thing

[lilac sequoia]

what kind of examples

[sturdy tundra]

they stripped them down to the point where they can wear them

And ingame indeed they don't use the full chassis

[lilac sequoia]

they removed the servos (probably the frame) and the shoulder pouldrons. But you’re still left with an awkwardly oversized chest piece and legs

[sturdy tundra]

Which, evidently, is light enough for them to make use of.

Batteries alone can take up a ton of weight in stuff. I've operated EPJ's about the size of a shopping cart but weighing more than a car due to their batteries alone.

[lilac sequoia]

yea but we’re talking a suit

[sturdy tundra]

Part of a suit

[lilac sequoia]

something like Knight steel armor is only 50-60 pounds due to support but thats cause you’re not wearing 1000 pounds worth for something designed to be powered by a nuclear fusion battery

[sturdy tundra]

with most of its fancy internals culled

What's left is just high-quality armor composites and alloys; it's not there to be heavy, it's there to be strong

[lilac sequoia]

at that point you’re better off melting the metal of the armor and just make standard metal armor platings

[sturdy tundra]

that's categorically false, why would you destroy the alloy by melting it down (already extremely hard to do) into something weaker?

This is material you can't get ahold of anymore unless you're the BOS or Enclave or get lucky snagging someone else's suit

You don't melt down the space-age wondermetal, you build a better frame to make use of it.

Even raiders know better than to just wreck these suits

[lilac sequoia]

its probably more effective making Steel plates for Bullet proof body armor on NCR soldiers instead of leather

[sturdy tundra]

Basic metals are not something they particularly have problems getting ahold of

[lilac sequoia]

T-45 seems to be just made of steel

[sturdy tundra]

Bulletproofing against anything more than a handgun is a lot harder than is commonly given credit, and if you're on a long haul in the middle of the desert, you don't want the extra weight and heat.

[lilac sequoia]

you wouldnt want to be wearing that Savenged PA either

Which in game we only see them stand as guard

[sturdy tundra]

Titanium plating, probably steel underneath.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/8/88/FO76_Promo_T45_Litograph_4.webp/revision/latest?cb=20231105175650

[lilac sequoia]

Even then, heavy troopers couldnt be effective besides just defense guards and even then i cant imagine wanting to be them in a warzone

[sturdy tundra]

Well yeah

Guard duty's what they're typically used for

They're not deployed out in the field all that much, they're usually stationed.

Since they don't gotta move, they don't need the mobility.

[lilac sequoia]

Which just proves my point you wouldnt want these guys anyway

Because not only can they not move, you need a team to help load their heavy weapons

[sturdy tundra]

well yeah, you need a team anyway realistically

[lilac sequoia]

Needing a team just for the guard post is def not efficient at all

[sturdy tundra]

That's not a power armor thing, that's literally just how heavy weapons are usually operated. If you're running them solo, something's very wrong.

Machinegunners are often 3 to 4-man squads

[lilac sequoia]

hell even if they are posted on defensive positions, you’re just a big target for every everyone to shoot at

[sturdy tundra]

That's the case no matter what if you're out in the open

It's just a means of taking some fortifications with you, that's all armor is at the end of the day.

Ready-made steel and titanium and whatever other materials designed specifically to basically replace tanks is not something I'd be turning my nose up at.

Again, obviously they were able to strip out enough of the internals that they can just run the frame solo. It's not as strong as full power armor, but it's still armor.

[lilac sequoia]

thing about tanks is they can push offensively

[sturdy tundra]

That depends on doctrine

[lilac sequoia]

Which a working Power Armor can do. they will def move faster

[sturdy tundra]

Tanks still need infantry screens

[lilac sequoia]

All you’d need is 3 Paladins and im sure 5 infantry men behind each will be safely covered when moving the offensive

[sturdy tundra]

I mean if you're referencing Sunburst, I would like to note that the BOS loses that battle.

NCR heavy troopers don't have mobility, that's not news. That's why they're typically stationed, not fielded.

They have other options, known and imagined, for when they need to get around.

[lilac sequoia]

due to overpowering numbers ofc they would always be at a loss

The NCR got better things than what i’d see as useless scavenged armor

[sturdy tundra]

Numbers don't always win wars. The humble machinegun saw to that.

[sturdy tundra]

You're assuming it's useless and building your argument on that. Obviously the NCR gets plenty of use out of them.

[lilac sequoia]

If both sides have a machine gun. Then at that point its given

not to mention the NCR is practically an army at this point and the Nevada chapter probably havent been in a fight or used military tactics since forever

[sturdy tundra]

The NCR's not the only thing out in the Mojave the BOS has to deal with

[lilac sequoia]

Yea but besides the legion, they havent had a foe where real military strategy is needed when you think about it

not to mention this is the Nevada Chapter we are talking about and their foes would be the strong abominations and fiends.

[sturdy tundra]

Besides the Enclave, supermutants and co, major raider factions, etc.?

These are still very present foes, especially for the BOS at that point in time

[lilac sequoia]

The Enclave is basically gone during NV, the nevada chapter will never face them

[sturdy tundra]

That particular bunch of Enclave personnel, yes. But the Enclave itself is not dead.

[lilac sequoia]

If this is the East Coast then yea their def more extreme

my argument is more focused on the nevada chapter not BOS as a whole

[sturdy tundra]

Neither is mine

[lilac sequoia]

Operation Sunburst would be the Nevada’s only experience in large war scaled threat. Idk why the Enclave would ever show their face after Fallout 2 when during this time they were rebuilding in the capital wasteland after the oil rig

NCR would pummel them no matter what.

[sturdy tundra]

Sunburst was only a year before F3 and we see in the show that even near NewCal they're still in operation

[lilac sequoia]

Navarro was raided by the NCR

[sturdy tundra]

They also had operations down in Mexico going on, they might not've been able to fall back to Raven Rock

At least as of F4 there's another base in Chicago

[lilac sequoia]

I cant imagine why the Nevada chapter would at all engage with the Enclave when it would be the California chapter

[sturdy tundra]

It's not Nevada, it's the Mojave in general

We've technically been in it a bit in the first couple games

Lost Hills ended up losing a lot of territory

The Mojave chapter's possibly the only one anywhere near there at that point

[lilac sequoia]

During this time, The BOS and NCR were hunting down Enclave affiliated due them tried for basically being a war criminal

[sturdy tundra]

Yes, they were being hunted down, doesn't mean they weren't still operating out there

[lilac sequoia]

so whether “fully operation” or not. They were not in the position to fight

[sturdy tundra]

Just means keeping low-profile if they do gotta go out there.

Navarro for instance wasn't sacked until well after F2, and not everyone left it during the retreat.

[lilac sequoia]

those that did were remnants or hunted down

[sturdy tundra]

I'm very well aware of that

Remnants still means "not dead yet".

[lilac sequoia]

still doesnt prove the Nevada Chapter would be in any situation to fight a combat ready group of enclave

There just isnt evidence the enclave was their threat. geographically wise too

[sturdy tundra]

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence; we don't know what was going on in the broader area besides some tidbits, Todd Howard's outright talked about how they're careful how much information outside of each game's playspace they establish.

Certainly by the time of FNV, barely anything was left. But we're talking about stuff from years prior.

[lilac sequoia]

I would say after Fallout 2, the enclave isnt anywhere in any position to fight. I think thats a fair assumption

By fallout 3 they are ok but lost their heavy presence in the west

[sturdy tundra]

You don't need a commanding officer to point a gun and shoot of your own accord. The Enclave are an extremist group that even its own members aren't all on board with. There would've been a lot of soldiers left behind and forced to go to ground. Raiders and supermutants manage to mount notable counteroffensives against the BOS on occasion, actual US military with modern equipment can probably put up a fight.

They'd still have to be manually extricated and routed over all these decades.

[lilac sequoia]

however, they are shoved by two fronts. Outnumbered and outgunned.

[sturdy tundra]

Guerilla warfare is a helluva drug.

[lilac sequoia]

you can’t really justify guerilla warfare when both sides are equally capable of doing that

[sturdy tundra]

Sure I can, because only one side needs to resort to it in this case

Necessity's the mother of invention, etc.

[lilac sequoia]

in addition, yea u do need a commandinv officer

or else you get deserters.

[sturdy tundra]

I mean, when you are the remaining military force, you've gotta figure out something new

Unless you're a British soldier in WW1, you're trained to show at least some initiative, and especially in a setting like Fallout you've gotta learn the land or it'll be the death of you first.

[lilac sequoia]

I dont think fighting off the biggest faction is considered survival at all

[lilac sequoia]

fighting them is a direct act of war.

[sturdy tundra]

That ship sailed long beforehand

They already had BOS blood on their hands by F2's end

[lilac sequoia]

if the President just dies, and a member of the secret service (Frank Horrigan) is killed off. And navarro was just sacked by the NCR.

The Enclave are not in a position to try and take back their outposts or engage. The only people that will fight is anyone still at Navarro.

[sturdy tundra]

Frank's death is literally irrelevant to that, he was just another soldier, and again the Navarro sacking wasn't until later

I'm talking about the aftermath of F2

Since that's much more salient than what we already know of by FNV's actual time

[lilac sequoia]

Aftermath of Fallout 2, Navarro is gone and the Enclave are basically in shambles and retreating

They are not gonna go on the offense

[sturdy tundra]

You're intentionally ignoring me now. I'm calling it good on this discussion.

[lilac sequoia]

because you’re making things up rather than what actually happened

[odd kettle]

@winged kelp The suit still has power somehow if you look at his helmet hud. Power Armor also has hydraulics so as long as you can activate them you can move, although much slower than if the activating motors had full power. I’d bet on fusion cells being why it can but for gameplay it’d be a pain in the ass and exploited. Maximus is also not a real Knight that’s been trained on the inns and outs of power armor. In car guy terms- Maximus only knows what he’s seen and been told while Lucy has done research and read plenty of material on power armor. Also I doubt he knew but he probably wouldn’t want to he stuck at walking speed considering her mission was time sensitive

I rewatched this scene the other day and realized that

[winged kelp]

her mission was time sensitive ||and they walked from shady sands and back in a scene that shouldve been a flashback||

[errant crow]

Actually, considering some ways that TV series BoS chapter operates that pretty much could be so. Roman-style names, relationship between BoS members, treating local population very badly to the point of mass murder (town of Filly that is)....

[errant crow]

Guerilla warfare? In Enclave's case?

[winged kelp]

that.. was the end of a season?

[red forge]

End of season 1. Season 2 is already in production.

[winged kelp]

the ending was barely an ending, all that happened was the plot twist and the cliffhanger

[red forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-uh-yeah-jim-carrey-durr-gif-17557827642477210431

That's how season finales generally work.

[lilac sequoia]

first TV show?

[tidal tendon]

Let's keep this channel on the topic of the Fallout TV show please. If you would like to discuss other games, you can do it in #off-topic

[crisp grail]

you should watch Yellowjackets then

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3480246/

Army of the Dead too

https://youtu.be/zuRGaPeQPMw?si=W_MOpGMrvbA6G5WJ&t=111

[oak mist]

I'm really curious about how exactly the enclave survived broken steel then survived a trip back to the west coast.

And how the master never found Vault 31, 32, 33, and 4 despite them being extremely close and them even being in sight of the Cathedral

[sturdy tundra]

The Enclave has multiple bases. They had operations going on down in Mexico in F2 and as of F4 they've got another base in Chicago

and that's just what we know of.

They're the literal continuation of the US government and military for all intents and purposes, which means they have at least some access to whatever functionining pre-war infrastructure like the Whitespring bunker and whatnot that might still remain. They're not dying out anytime soon.

Not all Enclave personnel in NewCal left (or could leave) for Raven Rock and Navarro wasn't sacked by the NCR until well after F2, they maintained some presence and might've consolidated at that other base after Navarro

Likewise not everyone was standing around in Raven Rock or the airbase, they have operations all over the place.

[errant crow]

There is a more pressing question with that. Why the BoS having literal knowledge of an Enclave base in LA area didn't mount an assault on the said base. By all intent and purposes they should have done exactly that....

[sturdy tundra]

I don't recall any indication they know where it is, but they're at least able to intercept some of their comms

Even if they did know, it doesn't really seem like the West Coast BOS are particularly back to full strength yet considering they're deploying Prydwyn knights for the job.

[main raptor]

Are the pink axolotl gulper things some kinda axolotl gulper? Or are they one of the fallowing.

Scorched gulper, mutated gulper, just a regular gulper or something else?

[winged kelp]

its not scorched since that was wiped out and only in appalachia, but I dont think I can help you any further

[lilac sequoia]

they are an experiment from Vault 4

[waxen silo]

I thought they were mutated humans in Vault 4.

So some kind of Human/Gulper hybrid maybe?

[main raptor]

Hmm.... Peculiar.

[crisp grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004846461135110174/1290347751648919592/image.png?ex=66fcca3d&is=66fb78bd&hm=0e47097831ea11d85cb9e562fba0d06b81a2d6e3dcffcdfa75fb1f9ccda10dca&

https://beforesandafters.com/2024/06/05/the-vfx-of-fallout-shooting-on-an-led-volume-on-film-crafting-one-eyed-digital-humans-mixing-practical-and-digital-and-more/

[oak mist]

Ah, so the rule of cool

[tacit beacon]

Any idea when new season could launch

[indigo trellis]

probably 2026

[crisp grail]

Fiming began a few weeks ago , principal photography will probably end by November
then its onto visual effects, sound , maybe some reshoots

I could see them getting done for bomb drop day 2025

But theres so many things that go into premires that have nothing to do when they are done

Bomb Drop day 2025 would be a great symbolism tho

[red forge]

It's only started production dude...

Unless there's official word, no one knows.

[sturdy tundra]

Tomorrow.

(Nobody said it had to be a good idea.)

[tacit beacon]

Idk my bad I’m just excited I don’t keep up with it

Some can come out a year some 4 ain’t no harm in asking 😂😂😂

[oak mist]

I really hope the script is better than the first season

[lime mirage]

Is Bethesda up in here ? I need to congratulate y'all on the tv show an the main character was a baddie y'all did pretty good

[hybrid portal]

I’m gonna start tweaking if Lucy’s dad doesn’t say “Looks like new Vegas really fell out during the FALLOUT, New Vegas isn’t all of that though.” In season 2

[plain sable]

vinyl for the show's soundtrack. appears to be two color variants (yellow edition is sold out already)
https://www.ign.com/articles/where-to-buy-fallout-tv-series-limited-edition-vinyl

[broken crag]

Ooh, I love collecting vinyl and this one looks fantastic!

[red forge]

Imagine the amount of copyright the producer would've had to secure...

[winged kelp]

I hope season 2 has some of the iconic songs from new vegas like Johnny Guitar

[hybrid portal]

Lucy is bad asl

[stable silo]

Anyone know where I can get a fallout show poster 24x36 preferably?

*for NYCC on the 18th

[crisp grail]

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1843361448476717456

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

Ella Purnell tells us she hasn’t seen any scripts for ‘FALLOUT’ Season 2 & doesn’t know when it will begin filming yet.

“I’m excited, I really want to get going… getting back into the Lucy headspace”

Twitter · Oct 7, 2024, 6:43 PM

[ocean tree]

Damn, I was hoping they were already at least thinking about filming again

Seems season 2 is still a loooong way away

[red forge]

She'd have to be vague due to NDA.

[crisp grail]

while i wish it was comnig out tomorrow as well

I tend to look at this as a win

Going to New Vegas is going to cause some divisions for some fans no matter what the story is or if the sets are game accurate

So taking the time to get it right is worth it

[ocean tree]

Hardcore nv fans will be angry no matter how accurate the sets are

Nv fans are just build different

[knotty holly]

This is straight facts, it's thousands of people who just learned the words "media literacy" screaming all at once

[winged kelp]

I mean didnt NV make its own tourist spots? they could easily go to some of the real locations

[ocean tree]

sure but then the fans will say that the show is spitting on the greatness of what NV is
or not capturing the true beauty that Obsidian envisioned for NV

now this is not every single NV fan but the minority is very VERY loud

[winged kelp]

that minority of NV players is really good at complaining

[knotty holly]

Toxic people like to latch onto good content because it's an easy way to have something to argue about that isn't hard for them to defend. New Vegas can be a really good game and that doesn't have to stop games like fallout 3 from also being great

[trail zinc]

Problem with NV fans is that Fallout 3 wasn't made by Obsidian so it isn't to the same standards

[winged kelp]

I wonder if that atomic wrangler customer is still looking for a male ghoul cowboy 15 years later

[crisp grail]

https://vimeo.com/1018619875

VFX Breakdown from Important Looking Pirates

They did the cyclops, the snip snip and Mr Handy and some Vault stuff

In many scenes, Snip Snip's core performance was captured using the practical puppet, mounted on a mini crane arm to simulate floating. We meticulously matched the texture and imperfections of the puppet’s movement, integrating these nuances into our keyframe animation to maintain authenticity.```

[rapid nest]

Just watched the show for like 15th time this morning super hyped for vegas but i do hope we see more classic fallout like in 1 and 2 i am tired of people asking for smaller power armor like in fo3 and nv like its literally big in fo1 and 2 i just dont get it lmao still praying for some more enclave stuff next season

[winged kelp]

not mentioning this next season would be a huge missed opportunity

[waxen silo]

Its so nice to see so much of the set is actually there and not cgi.

You look at a Marvel movie and the only thing actually there are the actors. and sometimes not even in final costume.

[glad garden]

Any predictions for Season 2?

[winged kelp]

it’s obviously in new vegas and its supposed to have Mr. House in it (could be flashback only though).

if its not a flashback and House’s ending is canon, he could be an antagonist

[rapid nest]

We know for a fact we will see vegas and deathclaws 100% confirmed but i have a very strong feeling we will see more creatures and characters mainly super mutants and securitrons and protectrons

[winged kelp]

I hope we see cazadors

[crisp grail]

https://x.com/batmankm/status/1847282779731460435

Kirk Manley (@batmankm) on X

Hey #NYCC attendees if your a FALLOUT fan don’t miss that Aaron Moten
Walton Goggins and Ella Purnellare are at the show today! Stop by booth 4467 and pick up my tribute to the show, perfect for getting actor signatures! While they last.👍

Twitter · Oct 18, 2024, 2:25 PM

wish I was at NYCC

[waxen silo]

I've never been to a convention. Even though I'm 43 and always wanted to.

[patent lark]

Don't ever go to the Tokyo game show

There is crowded and then there is that

Was a pointless experience

[manic knoll]

quick question: is the serie canon because the Prydwen would have never leaft the commonwealth

[red forge]

Yes.

[winged kelp]

its a decade after four

[mystic niche]

Has anyone considered that to bring in NV they might introduce the courier as a new character

[red forge]

Yep it's been brought up a number of times. Do a search for "courier" in this room.

[winged kelp]

imagine if he was just a guy chilling in the lucky 38

[rancid wing]

Necrotic and Maximus and Lucy are the best characters in the Fallout show

https://tenor.com/view/ella-purnell-the-tonight-show-starring-jimmy-fallon-fallout-on-prime-fallout-vault-boy-gif-10818377235195461971

https://tenor.com/view/okey-dokey-lucy-maclean-fallout-okay-yes-gif-13402133169667616317

[crisp grail]

https://x.com/discussingfilm/status/1854681187706716500?s=46&t=vE_2sBS62UzvYBfxr6dRIg

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

Macaulay Culkin has been cast in ‘FALLOUT’ Season 2.

(Source: Deadline)

Twitter · Nov 8, 2024, 12:23 AM

[gaunt fulcrum]

idk who this is but he reminds me of the guy from home alone

he just looks eerily similar

[quartz widget]

Home Alone in Vault 33? 👀

[half pebble]

Because it is him

[winged kelp]

who do we think he is assuming its a returning character?

[red forge]

Funny you were able to make that correlation.

[gaunt fulcrum]

ye i learned about his character now, hes gunna be a mad scientist. and since s2 is set in new vegas i have bets on some like fantastic esc character

[red forge]

No one knows yet what role he's going to play.

[gaunt fulcrum]

its theory i forgot to say

[winged kelp]

since bethesda loves their brotherhood of steel, we can assume the show has them fight the NCR for Helios One

or maybe thats what started the BoS-NCR conflict

[novel plank]

That's already happened by the time the series occurs.

[winged kelp]

wait a second I forgot, if mr house’s ending is canon, the mojave chapter is all dead except for like the scouts

maybe the BoS mistook that for NCR?

[novel plank]

The show doesn't confirm canon endings. It does exclude certain possibilities, however.

[winged kelp]

mr house is said to appear again, so assuming its not flashbacks, hes either shriveled up and almost dead or his ending is canon

[half pebble]

The BoS chapter in the show came from the east coast

[winged kelp]

and theyre at war with the NCR, with seemingly no explanation

[novel plank]

Mr. House doesn't require his ending to survive.

The BoS in the show, at the point of the show, seems somewhat indifferent to the NCR who got their butts kicked by ||Vault-Tec||. They might have helped that along, but their ||attack against the NCR has a lot more to do with the location of the Fusion Power Generator than who actually held it.||

[raven wolf]

The East Coast Brotherhood is fighting the NCR because the NCR took over Helios One and is hunting the last remaining the last remaining Lost Hills Chapter members

[crisp grail]

https://www.inverse.com/gaming/fallout-season-2-jonathan-nolan-interview-phil-spencer-xbox?linkId=100000308117714

Tldr: Nolan wants to include more and more flashbacks as a method for story which he says is harder in a video game but T.V. is much more freeer in that way

[slim night]

Not the whole chapter. There’s a west coast and east coast chapter in the show.

[gaunt fulcrum]

be nice to get some more backstory

[red forge]

It only makes sense. Don't think they can dig too much into the future chronologically without too much overlap of when FO5 may end of taking place.

[winged kelp]

the show is pretty centered on the west coast, im sure if its a southern, eastern, or northern area that it wont show up in the show

[winged kelp]

who am I kidding fallout 5 is obviously east coast this is bethesda

[sturdy tundra]

Could pull a fast one and go to the Midwest

Fallout Tactics 2 when

[winged kelp]

chicago maybe, nowhere else is likely

[sturdy tundra]

plot twist, it'll be up in the Pacific Northwest

the humans and various mutants all just smoke weed so there's actually not a lot of problems out there

that irradiated post-apocalyptic zaza got me seeing the molecular composition of a french fry relayed to me in morse code

[winged kelp]

I havent played fallout 2, is there any hints to what its like there?

[sturdy tundra]

It's largely more of the same, something modern would probably do a lot more with the biome diversity and such

most of F2's assets were just F1 assets

[winged kelp]

I meant like does fallout 2 hint at the pacific northwest because I heard the northern part is in southern oregon

[sturdy tundra]

not really, just that there's still people around like the tribals at Arroyo and such

IIRC Arroyo canonically does prosper, but we haven't gotten much for that side of the map in a long time

[winged kelp]

if fallout stayed 2d and on the west we likely wouldve gotten a pacific northwest fallout 4

[sturdy tundra]

mutated moss consuming everything

The Blob (1958)

[naive kayak]

wait wait does the tv show feature the commonwealth

[sturdy tundra]

No, but the knights who show up were previously deployed out east.

[naive kayak]

Nice

[thick tiger]

Fallout TV Show Nominee for Best Adaptation | The Game Awards

https://x.com/falloutonprime/status/1858576287255982351?s=19

FALLOUT⚡️ (@falloutonprime) on X

Holy moly!!!

Twitter · Nov 18, 2024, 6:21 PM

[mental mortar]

Did we do our duty 🙂

[sturdy tundra]

It's gonna come down to it and The Last of Us realistically

[red forge]

Could've been an opportunity for them to say "Holy Goosy" or something.

[thick tiger]

As you know Fallout TV Show is now a Nominee for Best Adaptation for The Game Awards and its up against some heavy hitters under the category! We can turn that tide by voting today! So be sure to vote!

https://thegameawards.com/nominees/best-adaptation

[sturdy tundra]

Oh that's the final lineup

okay yeah Fallout versus Arcane, that's fair

I wasn't expecting it to be in the awards so soon since it just came out

[naive kayak]

yk i actually went back to play fallout not because of the tv show its that i got access to fallout just now never had a gaming pc i watched it on youtube only before

[raven mural]

Hi folks, a reminder that we do not allow any leaks or rumours on the server. This also extends to the TV show, thank you for understanding!

[raven mural]

We don't allow leaks or rumours as per #rules

[winged kelp]

is it really a leak if they put a physical sign from the game in a town?

[trim quest]

it's a leak since it's not put out officially by us or Amazon

[wide beacon]

Just finished the show today. Not perfect, but still pretty good

[trail zinc]

it's better than the halo tv show

[wide beacon]

Very low bar

[trail zinc]

fair

[red forge]

Different altogether. The writing of Halo tried establishing an alternate timeline.

[raven wolf]

It’s probably gonna win

It’s the most well put show on the nominee list

Arcane is really the only one that can beat it

[ebon oracle]

All the more reason why I'm currently playing Fallout again is because of that show.

As someone with a Halo Spartan Mark V helmet profile, and my passionate love for Halo and hatred of the fake "Halo" TV show, I can't agree more.

[winged kelp]

so theres going to be a ||glowing one||? (its not a leak this time #social-feed)

[minor lark]

At the end of that video you see them coloring the skin red and tan. While yes, he is seen with a green light above his head. I don't think that actor was made to be a glowing ghoul.

[winged kelp]

||marked man||?

[ebon spoke]

I mean, since they're going to the mojave, it'd be cool to see

[celest dragon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1h1n03q/what_is_this_a_prop_for_the_show/

saw this on Reddit

[mystic vine]

Give me a TV show surrounding Roger Maxson and the creation of the BoS.

[sterile torrent]

Please keep it appropriate for the discord.

[wide beacon]

Random ping?

[distant breach]

no

[mystic vine]

Why not king?

[jagged igloo]

Am rewatching the show now, so cool to rewatch and catch more details, esp after* having finished playing through FO4

[sonic dragon]

The tv show ruined it when ONE ghoul was magically bullet proof, but not any others.

[winged kelp]

armor? he wasnt hit in the head he was hit in like his upper back

[wide beacon]

I think the feral juice thing is weird

Also the vault suits bother me a lot :p

[jagged igloo]

what about them bothers you?

[jagged igloo]

I guess they had to add some stakes somewhere, weaken the character a little

[frail trellis]

in the game ghouls are pretty strong depending on their level. so for the ghoul to get hit by maybe weaker bullets and still stand isnt uncommon.

i think the suits could be maybe a little better but i enjoy them a lot. the show did amazing in many ways i just wish it was maybe a little longer but then again film time is important deadlines can be tricky

[winged kelp]

ghouls in 3 arent very strong except for reavers

[frail trellis]

depends on which game tho they are different in all of them

but when he got hit he had to sit and recover in the show.

i think the show was great regardless

[jagged igloo]

Oh yah, I think they did an amazing job with the show

[frail trellis]

im very excited to make the ghoul and hancock cosplay ...soon ill be my fav ghouls~

[red forge]

He's not bullet proof, just takes more effort.

[jagged igloo]

That’ll be awesome! Yeah John Hancock from 4 is a fav 👌🏼

[crisp grail]

https://bsky.app/profile/realellapurnell.bsky.social/post/3lc27e34xsc2s

Ella Purnell (@realellapurnell.bsky.social)

I've been told to play fallout new vegas. Since I do love some source materials and this may or may not be prep for a certain job I may or may not be on soon.
#fallout #falloutS2 #promosky
#filmsky

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[crisp grail]

still up in the air about if this is her or not
her only verified page is Instagram which obviously is mostly photos but its all extremely well curated - so probably her publicist

She does post in her stories and on threads but not often , so hopefully we'll see a cross post between one of those and bluesky and we'll know if its her or not

she started the bluesky account 72 hours ago , so not a lot of verification possible RN

[desert grove]

I saw someone else on X call this post out, they seemed pretty adamant that it wasn't her, but like you said not much you can do to verify in that window of time.

[wide beacon]

It comes down to the fact they’re all the modern “generation 3” version. Given the setting, I would’ve loved to see some of the FO3/NV denim ones, and especially one of the FO1/2 rubber ones during Coop’s photoshoot scene. Hoping that if S2 shows Vault 21 we get to see the “gen 2”

[frail trellis]

He's my favorite and I follow his voice actor, Hancock is my favorite And of course nick valentine

[jagged igloo]

I think he might be my fav too. Yeah Hancock's voice acting was great! Nick was my first companion I took to the highest affinity. He was really fun to have around in Far Harbor for all of that dialogue with DiMA

[frail trellis]

Yess agreed far harbor is so fun

[jagged igloo]

I liked that you can't romance him, but I disliked that you couldn't dress him up like he was my own personal Barbie 😅

[winged kelp]

too bad I only had old longfellow in bar harbor

[frail trellis]

RIGHT!! 🥺 like damn.. Nicky needs a W okay

[frail trellis]

my soul left my body today ...as the man himself...walton liked my ghoul edit....

[jagged igloo]

really??!! PLEASE SHOW US

[frail trellis]

YESS

ill show edit and his reaction

if thats okay to post here???

[jagged igloo]

I hope so ?? or maybe #screenshots-and-video ?

[frail trellis]

i only ask cause it is the fallout tv series but ill put it in the screen shots

i sent it in the right chat

im still screaming 🤣 😭

[red forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wreck-it-ralph-no-way-fix-it-felix-shock-shocked-gif-8995955251701935004

[glass hinge]

When is season 2 coming?

[frail trellis]

I'm guessing... 2026 the latest

[crisp grail]

https://x.com/falloutonprime/status/1864101154453369256

FALLOUT⚡️ (@falloutonprime) on X

Feo fuerte y formal

Twitter · Dec 4, 2024, 12:15 AM

[frail trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-happy-the-office-michael-scott-omg-gif-15790186

[red forge]

No one knows. There's been no announcement.

[crisp grail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/999779635871101060/1314313532451323938/IMG_2316.png?ex=6753515c&is=6751ffdc&hm=53711d1a761f9e2f3c9427248b905d70a82e7540cfbe75492aecad03ca730f8c&

looks like it was fake after all

They scrubbed their profile or Bluesky deleted all their prior posts

[winged kelp]

does bluesky even have verification marks?

actually nvm twitter only has them for companies and government officials

[crisp grail]

they dont yet but when i was looking stuff up to report that account- i found some articles saying BlueSky was looking into options for verifications similar to twitter blue check

[crisp grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/999779635871101060/1314371339859136624/IMG_2321.png?ex=67538733&is=675235b3&hm=2e9cfaf4d91e995cd8051692c77edcc8b8e67793147dede30829f311dc7dd1d6&

[winged kelp]

why is there no wiki page for the vault tec caviar

[jagged igloo]

I could go for some of that rn lol 🐌

[red forge]

That account is a different handle to what was posted the other day.

[red forge]

Maybe bluesky will actually care. Zucc doesn't.

[crisp grail]

thats the weird part, i only followed the fake ella on Bluesky- like literally no one else
and the fake ella was deleted and for some reason bluesky auto followed that one
So i assume its the same person, different account

[chilly hedge]

Found a really good edit of Old Town road featuring the Ghoul.

[winged kelp]

why would they choose that song

[frail trellis]

Am I allowed to be screaming still that Walton liked my ghoul edit 🥹

[red forge]

Seems so. The account is gone for me too, and I was silly enough to follow it. For me it solidifies that bluesky actually care.

This level of attention by them has been sorely missed on social media as a whole for many years.

[frail trellis]

I'm so frustrated right now

I've been waiting to get my makeup to make myself become The ghoul and make the whole costume BY HAND! and the dang strike that is happening... My makeup is sitting in storage... Can melt or go missing.. I'm not happy

[red forge]

Maybe what the strike is about should be addressed.

[frail trellis]

let me seeeee if there is updates

[red forge]

Strikes happen for a reason and cause grief on the customer on purpose to make the people running the service look bad.

[frail trellis]

its happening because of not good enough wages which is fair! the public is on their side but....its christmas season...not good

[red forge]

That's clearly something the management need to address with the strikers.

[frail trellis]

so far their might be an agreement thats all we got today

i hope its good ..i need my things...i need my pre order ghoul figure too been waiting months for it

[crisp grail]

https://bsky.app/profile/bethesdastudios.com

Looks like BGS has joined

Bethesda Game Studios (@bethesdastudios.com)

Developers of Starfield, Fallout, and The Elder Scrolls.

Bluesky

[winged kelp]

no verification badge its probably fake

[crisp grail]

there are no badges on bluesky and jess posted it ( one of our Community Managers )
https://bsky.app/profile/jesscapade.bsky.social/post/3lcme7swlcc2u

Jess (@jesscapade.bsky.social)

There are a few parody accounts floating about, so be careful who you're following! 😅

Official Bethesda accounts are below
Bethesda Game Studios: @bethesdastudios.com
Elder Scrolls: @elderscrolls.bethesdastudios.com
Fallout: @fallout.bethesdastudios.com
Starfield: @starfield.bethesdastudios.com

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Bluesky · Dec 6, 2024, 4:35 AM

[winged kelp]

then why would you not have verification badges

[red forge]

In the works, perhaps? A question for their management /shrug

https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/30/24309403/will-bluesky-get-a-blue-check

They'll probably need to do it differently to how Twitter had it. I remember a few years ago that Twitter got hacked, and all blue tick accounts were compromised.

[winged kelp]

subscription verification? or real verification

[red forge]

So I gathered that Twitter's blue tick system at the time may have been a database entry of BlueTick=1

[frail trellis]

I am screaming.. Can I scream? My makeup.. It's been shipped

[patent basin]

I bet we'll get to see Vault 24 in Season 2, and it'll be where the nukes were first launched.

[frail trellis]

I hope we see Gary

[crisp grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004846461135110174/1315845114559598612/Screenshot_20241209_195611_Instagram.jpg?ex=6758e3c2&is=67579242&hm=bc1b082b247988b9191d24a13c6b0da83286663170fe04befb20f8f08f26abf2&

[frail trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hello-elmo-rise-elmo-hell-gif-6774220897048944396

[winged kelp]

it began filming a while ago but it was a leak so bethesda wont like it if I say where it was

[broken wind]

i love how in the games Turrets are accurate most of the time but in episode 2 when wilzig leaves the facility the turret misses every shot during 15m while wilzig and cx404 basically walk

and in the start of fo4 when you meet the 2 pa soldiers they have high voices almost kid like but in the show theyre real deep like a voice crack

[frail trellis]

i really want to see gary

[red forge]

Ella posting it makes it official.

[frail trellis]

Filming started back in November because Walton posted being in California area the second week of November I was confused by why he was there but I caught on that either filming was starting or it was table reading of the script. Guess both were right

[crisp grail]

aye part of the delay was Walton had to finish shooting Season 3 of the White Lotus

or at least thats what the trades ( Variety, Hollywood Reporter ) said

[frail trellis]

They waited for him yes

[winged kelp]

shh, thats a leak and the mods dont like you talking about it

[uncut kettle]

Oh mb