#The Traitors (SPOILERS FOR ALL IPLAYER EPISODES)
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The lot
Make the soil barren
Blacken the sky
Surely nobody would risk Alexander
That's why the ending of Aus S2 was good. Broke the game ||and nobody got anything||
Loved it so much
So so much
Perfect end
I think Leanne and Frankie. Bonding over being mothers and doing it for their kids.
Could be
I'd be shocked
Absolute 0 chance. Could skip this bit
That's her telling them to vote Alex
100% red isn't too common
I think that's Alexander. Proving he's a faithful
If you did green you'd be a traitor
If you were the only traitor left you'd be trying to end the game would ya not
Can’t they skip the rest of this pouch stuff
Wilf did that didn't he?
I think so
I suppose if someone was green it could out them
Leanne has effectively won and just has to decide who she wants to share with
No he's making a living accosting people on the street asking what their ick is
Yeh didn’t think of that actually
Jake mate run. You're next
Probably yeah
Awk Alexander
Alexander has done well to last this long
I think they should find out there if hes a traitor or not
I think it adds to the emotion
No chance they are ending it here. pure greed/para
Because he got so far and he was a faithful and they've stopped him
By rights they should leave it now
Jake thinks they are voting Frankie. Unlucky mate.
I can't believe Frankie survived being the Seer.
This season is just pure girl power
Omg
Why? Greed that's why.
Omg
Fuck sake. That shouldn't be allowed.
Chat shouldn't be allowed
Wish there was still a traitor here. Would have made it so much more tense.
Aye I know what ya mean
Speaking as a the owner of a pair of clean Vans, I'd never betray you
Must be a great feeling for Leanne
MON LEANNE
Oooft
Didn't see that tbf
Me either
There's no tension for us as viewers haha
That's girl power binned
Class 😂
Thought Frankie had saved it by swearing on her kids
Feminism set back years
AS A MOTHER
As a mother couldn't even save her
I loved Frankie
A community struggles to find answers
Samesies
This is shite. Claudia revealing identities doesn't come close to the people saying it themselves.
Leanne is still so para
That's how you win
I know, hope they bin this next year along with the seer ballix
Leanne is shaking like dog shitting peach stones
Frankie watching from the window
Haha we just got rid of two other faithfuls LOL
Doubled their prize money tho
Classic M83
Claudia's GREETIN man
Somebody say "oh and CHARLOTTES ENGLISH"
And Frankie's NOT A MOTHER
Sorry I'll move past the Frankie mother thing
Jake's like 
Is she not? OOF
See yous all next year. Or we staying on for US Traitors which I think is on iPlayer shortly.
Jake didn't even dress smart. Just put a fucking blazer on
It's been real
See yas for the apprentice
No chance.
This is SO CRINGE
I'm watching Uncloaked but don't expect yous to hang about.
I've never seen it but already am turning it off because this cunt's annoying and loud
Reminds me of myself too much
Those two winning leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I feel they don't deserve it at all whereas people who played the game well got shafted
Is the US one any good this year?
Vote this bit of language
they need a dozen Alexander-level contestants next year
I've just caught up, about to watch uncloaked. That was such a good finale, as good as any of the others IMO
Poor Alex was too nice for his own good
Feel sorry for Frankie too
Justice for Frankie
Loved Alex, he's such a diplomatic, maybe he should get a job doing diplomacy or something
Alexander was doomed from the return
It's better than the UK one so far 
I disliked people saying "wHy Am i sTilL heRE" all the fucking time
Love, It's cause || you're shite at this game ||
enjoyed this season a lot tho tbh, even Claudia was less annoying than usual
sold
It was definitely the worst start to the series out of the 3, but defo got better towards the end. I think I'm gonna have to watch the Aussie one next, maybe the US one after that
Are all 3 of the US series decent?
The first was great, second was fine.
His facial expressions hahaha
Just caught up. Wanted to smash the TV every time Leanne said something about people not looking in her eyes
Great final episode, a disappointing pair of winners. Should have been Charlotte or Alexander
As I've said above, Charlotte really had the worst last two days possible
She really could've won
Forced to recruit, then this seer shit
Alexander spent the whole show fighting for his life. Poor guy
He seemed to really enjoy it though. I think out of them all he seemed to me the one person that was having a great time no matter what
100% he seemed best able to separate himself from the game, not taking anything too personally
Although Charlotte seemed to be having a great time too. That bit in the finale with her and Francesca in the kitchen was so good
Oh definitely. I'd have loved to see more of him
Although getting off the train defined him
It's nothing personal, she said. Then it all felt very personal at the round table
I dunno if Charlotte ever got too personal. She said "don't trust this woman" but other than that it's not like she was swearing on kids or motherhood or whatever. Just lying, just playing the game
The whole seer thing really was a lose lose situation for both her and Francesca. There was really no way out of it. Maybe if Francesca had been offered traitorhood or something
Charlotte should have said, "Francesca told me in private that she doesn't even have kids!" It's all a game, baybee.
Far too powerful
Can't decide if the power itself was stupid and/or it was just unlucky for Charlotte.
Just thinking about scenarios:
Faithful chooses Faithful: Great scenario as there's really no gain here for either team outside of the 2 people who were involved. Maybe they're both faithful, maybe they're both traitors, there's doubt.
Traitor chooses Faithful: Similar to the first, traitor can kinda fly under the radar but there's still doubt
Traitor chooses Traitor: Again, similar to the other 2
Faithful chooses Traitor is really the worst scenario. The Faithful can't not say anything cause they'll eventually lose if the traitor remains but also with the tiny amount of doubt that this is a traitor trying to discredit a faithful or a traitor turning on a traitor it just makes sense to banish both of them just in case, as we saw.
They need to take a lesson from Blood on the Clocktower (similar, role deduction game) and be really careful with 100% truthful knowledge cause it's just too powerful/game breaking. In BOTC, powers can misfire for various reasons and even when they're working they almost always include a red herring, someone who's good who'll appear as evil etc., so there's always doubt.
But also, it's just a reality show, fuck it, it was entertaining so who cares
Not choosing Alexander was the worst part of it for me. He had so much heat for basically his whole tenure
The seer thing is a needless complication for me. Regardless of how it went this time around
Was on the phone or I might of got a selfie for yous
He'll be in the S4 for sure
I think I actually heard him say "yeah, I'll do season four"
Can't disturb a man when he's busy levitating
Imagine being 6'5" and thinking you need to get higher
As if a t--shirt in the middle of winter and a mullet isn't enough
He really is a big lad
Bob Mortimer was on the lists and then removed... I assume that means he's probably going to be a late addition and the surprise has been ruined 😬
Are we all back for Celeb Traitors tomorrow?
I'm hoping Stephen Fry is out first, I can't stand him 😠
will be interesting to see who the traitors are, surely they wont stick 3 of the big names as traitors as it would be too obvious.
I’m going to guess Tom Daly and Nick Mohammed as two of the traitors
possibly paloma
I feel like if you don't make Stephen a traitor he's out straight away
na i think with them not being strangers, there will already be relationships and a hierarchy to the game before it even starts. You see that with the US version where basically its Gameshow contestants vs Housewife cast even though there is no reason to split into factions when the traitor could literally be anyone.
you boil most seasons down and most nights, it is usually just a popularity contest.
i see a lot of the comedians getting banished early cause they'll be accused of not taking it seriously
The perceived smartest person went out first last season. Fry will have a target on him for that alone
It's good that Lucy Beaumont is there, it'll be interesting to see someone who pretends to be stupid (her) interacting with someone who pretends to be clever (Fry).
Funny seeing Tom Daley get suspicious of Clare on Day One. They must go way back.
I reckon Joe Wilkinson will last a while, but that being said isn't the whole thing just lasting a week or two?
It's only two episodes a week, I imagine it'll be on for 5-6 weeks.
Picking Stephen because “he’s so incredibly intelligent”. Can’t wait for a hot take on this when the big man is back.
A professor saying that too, embarrassing.
Let's hope that backfires on Jonathan
Absolutely love how into it Mark Bonnar is getting in the round tables.
Absolutely raging
Surprised Jonathan went along with the 3 potential victims for murder so easily. The hiding the shield from half the group but the other group know who has it. Law of averages means the traitors would probably know who has it.
That hiding the shield thing only works when 1 or 2 people know who have it.
I really, REALLY hate the "You'd make a great traitor" patter. What does it even mean? The only person who makes a great traitor is the one who doesn't get caught. It's a stupid meaningless excuse to give to vote for or accuse someone, disguising it as a compliment.
I have no reason to think you're a traitor and therefore believe you are a traitor 

Hwfg
Thought it was Jonathan's time but feels like they are gonna go Mark or David.
“I voted for Stephen because he’s a genius”
I looked at the clock 10 mins ago thinking oh they surely aren't going to drag this out to a cliffhanger. 
So what are they doing? Tossing a coin?
They should have just kept making them vote
It's funny the level of overthinking that they all do. The big dog thing is still only the best theory to go on and they keep ignoring it. The hierarchy of "celeb status" I think definitely effects the roundtable.
Jonathan just keeps getting away with it
Surely can't survive this now. Although trying to think what the numbers are now, is it 5 faithfuls after the next murder? So if they actually work togethey they only need to convince 1 for a tie at the round table. Convince 2 people and they've effectively won it.
It would almost be silly for Cat and Alan to turn on Jonathan now.
If they murder Kate then either frame Nick or Joe the following night. I think the biggest curveball is they'll go for Alan after he forgot his shield.
I can see all three winning, but it feels Jonathan might be gone next... it's been nice to have a series where the traitors don't turn on each other within the first few episodes though. I kind of wish there was a rule where traitors weren't allowed to vote for each other since that would at least be something others could use for a clue since there's literally nothing else to go on.
i always thought that was strange that when they take the oath, the traitors have to say they will keep their fellow traitors identity a secret. Cause none of them ever do.
I watched... Feels like a step down after the celebrity one but the twist 
Good twist. People have been wanting something like this since it started.
it will surely only take a few days to narrow down who it is from the kill list, so then it’ll just be the other traitors trying to get them banished. I think it’s an interesting new spin on the game
I've heard they might all be in pairs... that would seem stupid, but there are a lot of hints towards it.
Only just caught up. Nobody picked up on this?
Ellie is my Secret Traitor prediction
I'd seen today's secret written somewhere before... There's a theory they all know each other
I doubt it now, surely if that was the case Netty, Ben and Hugo would have said who they knew on their way out.
I forgot this thread was here
The amount of internet research this year has been incredible
Also, Stephen has made too many mistakes to last much longer
Secret Traitor was a bit of a disappointment.
I liked the early daytime banishment. Would be good to have that then just leave them to discuss it all day then pull them in for another one that night.
Revealed too early
It was worth trying something new, but it was disappointing. I'm sure it would have been dragged out for longer if Hugo hadn't been banished, maybe it was always going to be either until the first traitor left or it was clear who the secret one was due to eliminating everyone else by putting them up for murder.
Although there should have been some benefit or game involved in the traitors guessing who the secret one was at some point.
All for trying to keep it fresh but The traitors have been greatly disadvantaged this series. It's episode 5 and they've not been given a chance to do a normal murder yet.
I think Hugo' ejection forced their hand. Ideally, it should've gone on longer
I'm actually glad it ended early with it being Fiona. If it had been someone else it would have been good to last a bit longer and keep us guessing but think she was just a bit too obvious. I wrote her off cause it felt too obvious.
This has to be the worst group of traitors so far, hasn't it?
Truly desperate
They're all doing too much. I'd have left the family tree alone once they'd stood next to it and told Reese to go away
Absolutely fucking maddening decision
Oh fuck
That has to be the daftest play I've ever seen from Fiona
Surely breaking the traitor vow or pledge or whatever the fuck it is they say at the start.
Rachel protected for life if she survives the round table tomorrow
Fiona surely gone tomorrow
Grill her in the turret not in the semi-open.. but the one who survives could be stealth for a while fter
I think Rachel is in the stronger position, Fiona just sounded like a traitor panicking
Fiona is actually the biggest idiot. Fuck me, what a stupid move
Without fail they mess it up for themselves
Every series
Just when I thought it was getting boring 🥳 Very stupid, but very entertaining. Hopefully the next round table is a shit show.
Incredibly entertaining but they're all fucked now
Like Mark said on Uncloaked, even if they are able to smooth things over in the turret. They'll have to do another conversation in the castle in front of the faithfuls, as they'll have to appear as if they've not spoken since. Can fully see Fiona trying something again during that. I really hope we get the outcome of the roundtable tonight and its not a cliffhanger.
What a fucking episode. I dare say the end was actually more shocking than Rach vs Fiona
I forgot it was on 
Traitors as a concept makes no sense to me but frustratingly I am addicted.
I wish there was a way for traitors to benefit during the missions by sabotaging them.
You get that every now and then but it's rarely fundamental to the task
Which is definitely a shame
Yea. Just bothers me that there’s rarely really any way to get solid evidence of a traitor. It irks me beyond belief!! Yet I watch… every evening… I’m there…
Apart from the occasional "in public" task (tap five people up for murder in 20 minutes kinda thing), the only way to get proof is they say something that gives it away 
Both traitors have only been caught cause the other traitors decided it was time for them to go.
Arguably, Fiona dithering during the skull collection task is traitor behavior. At least an example of a task where it's possible to sabotage.
I am behind and unable to catch up. Can someone briefly tell me what I missed. Last thing I saw was the episode where Fiona called the other Traitor a liar about the cop saying they're a cop
There’s only one episode after that, it’s not on til weds night, if you’ve got time to watch it? feels wrong spoiling it!
I've started watching the US one. They've done the same secret traitor thing, only the secret traitor doesn't get to know who the other traitors are either 
The bit I'm most interested in tonight is seeing what all the people that got to meet with the traitors tell folk at breakfast. Like Matthew will need to make up 2 new questions and the answers and make them sound legit. Same with Rachel, she has to make something up that sounds like a faithful would ask but also make up an answer that sounds probable.
Harriet should just go in and ask "Is Rachel a traitor?"
It seems a bit pointless since they're able to lie, I like how Matthew approached it but I wish he'd get murdered next for being cheeky.
Really hoping Harriet comes up with something good. Like a question that reveals something no matter how they answer it. I think she'll probably just go in with a similar tactic to Matthew and ask to be recruited also.
They're building it up like it's going to be some real turning point in the game. Many times we've seen Harriet saying she has to make the most of it
That said, Matthew has instantly made the strongest possible play imqho
It feels strong but they could just murder him the next night. I guess it depends on what he comes up with at breakfast and how he votes at the round table.
Strong individually but it is very easily countered by murder, you're right. It does nothing to help the group really
I think Harriet could ask something simpler that keeps her under the radar, otherwise she’ll be seen as a threat
I think going in on Hugo should really have her on the radar already. Having said that, she has been vocal about stepping back since then
What the fuck move
Incredible that she thought there were five traitors.
Rachel is playing an even harder game than Harry now I think, if she wins this it’ll be incredible
All that FBI YouTube video she watched really paid off.
Show pisses me off
A mathematical impossibility and a daft thing to say
Stephen getting 3 right in that mission should be ringing alarm bells there.
He's on thin ice. There's a wealth of evidence that people are ignoring
It's always a popularity contest at the round table. After tonight I hope Jade wins it as a faithful.
Why has Rachel never had any heat on her besides from Harriet? She just sits there throwing out names and nobody ever points it back at her.
I feel sorry for her, she seems to have had a stressful time
She's well liked, I think. Well thought of
Knife in the face seems unnecessary
I like Stephens collared shirt
Faraaz surely the only one that can be murdered tonight?
Ok he's just saved himself there. Final week. You got to go for it now.
I'm surprised Rach is still in after the cops final message was - if I'm faithful Rach isn't
I think Faraaz will be murdered, they probably think they're fucked either way, but if they murder him they can at least try to deflect it by saying they're being framed.
If they don't they haven't got anything.
Hopefully they've learned that being murdered or banished doesn't make a faithful know any more than they already didn't. If they are right it's only because it's a guess.
Nothing worse than "If I get murdered tonight then **** is a traitor."
Get Faraaz slashed. Now is the time to be bold
Tbf if I was a traitor and Faraaz went at Rach (in this hypothetical isn't a traitor) I'd kill Faraaz, in game. Classic defence is "Would I be that stupid, this is a set up" 
I think they will get rid of Farazz, cause they only need to convince Roxy and one other person (most likely Jade) to vote James out tonight. If they do that it should be a Roxy, Jack and Jade vs Rachel and Stephen finale.
Matt on Uncloaked pointed out if you look at the 5 last banishments, Rachel and Stephen have voted the exact same names and that person was always the one that got banished. Really hope someone brings this up before its over.
Matty was the one watching votes. None of the remaining dullards will have paid attention
Big mistake with that murder. Roxy could have helped the traitors win it.
The Fyrish monument. Been there. 
Stephen switching his vote would be the best play for him right now.
But could look suspicious
Haha
He could have got her out twice!
It was a silly mistake not murdering Faraaz, surely that would have framed James more, plus Roxy would have then got them to the end.
I reckon it’s Rachel that’s gone, and if she has, I think Stephen has a good chance of winning
Stephen can win regardless. I think they put a cliffhanger in because James has gone. Not having a murder is the thing that will cost them
Rachel has picked the shield but she's got no chance of getting to the end
It'll be Stephen, Faz and the one with the earring
As much as I think the show is stupid and I hate it. I WILL be tuning into the final.
Traiful
Good final, even though it was incredibly annoying.
Best possible ending for me. I'm thrilled
Yeah Stephen basically had the game in his hands. Rachel acting like she was always gonna split the win with him but that was her only choice. Stephen had the much harder choice of being greedy or splitting it. Fair play to him for sticking to his word.
I'd have been greedy. He was given the choice between having half or having it all and went with half, crazy. He's only known these people for a few weeks, half of them will have left the WhatsApp group before the next series starts.
Sticking to your word doesn't pay the mortgage.
All made possible by bringing the biggest NPC Jack to the end.
Aye Faraaz should have gone for Rachel like he said he would. Changing to Stephen was daft.
But the work after the show could pay for a property portfolio. Are you more likely to get work if you stole the lot or shared it... I think a Saturday morning TV show would hire the sharer
They'll hire whoever made for the best TV! That Paul was a slimy and annoying guy, but he seems to have the biggest thing lined up out of them all and he left half way.
Stephen is probably making more from his IT job than he'd ever get popping up on BBC Breakfast now and then, it'd take him years to make £50k from guest TV appearances (probably nowhere near that ever).
Other than Uncloaked I don't think I've seen him on anything since. I don't think I've seen any of them other than when it's Traitors related stuff.
Exactly... that's why it makes more sense to take the full prize than assume you'll make that back based on random TV spots following the show 
Apparently Paul is going to be the sidekick host on some game show starting soon. There was a lot of buzz around stuff he'd be doing when he left, but I think a lot of the offers didn't materialise because people stop caring about the show in the months that it isn't on.
Paul was in the TV orbit before his season though, right? I seem to recall him talking on a podcast about Traitors before he was even on it
That's a good point. His prize money is probably 6 months of his salary
yeah he was a popular guest on joe wilkinsons podcast, I think he was scouted
That's the one. Thanks for reminding me
I think Stephen will be remembered as the main character of this series. He’s the anti-Harry, winning by integrity
That's a good way to put it
Chatabix
If I remember correctly Paul was a contestant on another show so they spoke to him about that and then encouraged him to apply for Traitors. I didn't watch that series so kept having to skip chunks/episodes of the podcast
Paul could never be my son
Is anyone watching the Irish Traitors? I’m on episode 5 and their round tables are such a mess 
I was going to, but I find the host so annoying, so I didn't bother 😭
haha, well yeah she’s no Claudia, but I’ve got used to it. it’s kind of different because literally everyone there is Irish (surprisingly), so you don’t get that variety of accents like on the uk version
It's the pottery women isn't it?
yeah that’s right
She ruined the pottery show! I don't know why all these things need a host messing around, it's the worst part of Sewing Bee too.