Diablo 4

[indigo skiff]

I'll think about getting it once Im higher leveled

[late patrol]

I'm saving up for the expensive blood honse

I always go for the highest currency items first and then work my way down because I know I'm not going to want to do that grind again after getting all the smaller ticket items

[naive surge]

Same, the armor was 390k and tbh i only think the barb variation looks any good at all. Sorc one is pretty decent too. Now that i have the armor though, i don't want to grind out the bardings

[indigo skiff]

Yeah I don’t think it’s the kind of aesthetic I want on my rogue

Blood horse is cool tho

He seen some shit

The light bearer horse looks more like it waded through blood and took a few swigs

[indigo skiff]

PSA: dont sleep on vendor items they can actually be REALLY good

[naive surge]

I think I dont care about the actual horses cuz bardings exist

[indigo skiff]

depends on what barding you use

but I get you

[naive surge]

I use the greed world boss one lol its dope af

[indigo skiff]

I would too!

havent been so lucky (yet)

[indigo skiff]

found this dude

[jovial ether]

He's my fav! I use him all the time lol silly tiger zebra guy.

got the spectral horse drop and said nah, i like Mr. Stripey

[indigo skiff]

Good reason to use the sturdy saddle

show off Mr. Stripey

[jovial ether]

ohhh do i have that? i need to check

oh i didnt buy it yet, and too poor now, but now i know the price

[storm basin]

I like the unicorn saddle to see the whole horse

[indigo skiff]

unicorn saddle?

[indigo skiff]

if you make a new character it may show up with a lower price

allegedly the pricing is level based

if youve finished the campaign you can start a chracter right in Kyovashad

Im reading posts saying that when people made level 1 characters it shows up as only 7k

[indigo skiff]

this one?

[storm basin]

Ye

[paper lagoon]

https://diablo4.life/tools/target-farming

[winged oasis]

this is actually extremely helpful

[cinder niche]

How long do you think it would take to level up a new character to my current lvl of 82?

I feel so week as a Rogue and wanna play something less exhuasting as a solo player

weak*

[winged oasis]

idk tbh, you can probably do it in like a week if you get boosted through early levels

[cinder niche]

A week with boosting!? Thats soooo long
I wish they had a feature that let you class swap, and keep your current lvl like in Diablo Immortal.

[winged oasis]

I mean I'm sure there's some no-life strats to get it done quicker if you do nothign but play, but we're still early in the game's life all considering so a week to get to 82 isn't too bad

[cinder niche]

True, I guess the only things that are preventing me from doing it are the season 1 reset and generally feeling a little burnt out

[storm basin]

20hs? With the new nightmare xp

The worst part with a new caracter is the world map

[cinder niche]

Oh yeah I forgot about the world map. Siiiiiigh. So basically It really isn't worth making a new character until season 1 drops

[naive surge]

If you have the entire world map unveiled your seasonal character will also start like that, still need the waypoints but no fog of war

Im waiting to roll a new character until S1 for a multitude of reasons like that lol

[cinder niche]

So is it possible that I could make a new character now, play it and bank their gear to give to my fresh season 1 character?

[lament spear]

Nope, Seasonal is separate from Eternal.
But once you the season starts, you will be able to put seasonal gear into a special stash to retrieve it on your Eternal if i understood it correctly.

[storm basin]

Season and eternal are separate until season finish

[low shore]

When you start a seasonal character, your stash will be separate and empty, but shared across seasonal characters. When the season ends and the characters go to eternal, the two stashes will be fused. You will likely unlock a new eternal tab to use, but have to condense the gear.

[cinder niche]

That actually sounds preety awesome

I wish the season was out already

[uneven quarry]

still playing bois?

[paper lagoon]

Depends how much time you put in maybe 4 or 5 days if you play daily for a good amount of timr

Just leech til 65 or 70 then look for some lfgs

[indigo skiff]

https://helltides.com now has a Gathering Legion timer

(next is ~10 minutes from this post)

[wary igloo]

[indigo skiff]

[proud hatch]

I wanted to share a couple things I have learned recently. 1) Wisper Keys for Silent chests can be stored in and used from the stash. 2) Barbarian's don't neglect Core Skill Damage on weapons, if you look at your stat page and take it off/put back one you will notice a big deference in the number change.

[cinder niche]

@proud hatch Are you going to be on today?

[proud hatch]

Not for any length of time on Sundays. I do board game of Frosthaven. In the evening I do Pathfinder. Sometimes the pathfinder does cancel. I might be on in between games or after thought.

[cinder niche]

Gotchya. Is it ok if DM or add you? The next time that you're going to be on for a longer amount of time? Theres a speed lvling technique i wanted to try out

[lament spear]

Finally managed to get some gear to switch from Sorcerer Arc lash to Ice shard.
Feels good to not be blown up in melee by every negative affixes from nightmare dungeons

[jovial ether]

I keep meaning to play other games because i have so many in my library but I find myself pulled back into the grind of Diablo lol

its like, i could start a new game of something on steam but mannn im not 100 yet on Diablo and that would be sweet

[naive surge]

My backlog plus some summer sale items ive been wanting finally pulled me away from diabler until seasons start

[proud hatch]

Sure thing, Battlenet is Shanis#1958. I should be free Monday at about 2-3pm PST and a viable till Friday morning.

[indigo skiff]

I just hop on for NM dungeons and world bosses for now

[drowsy spire]

samesies

[jovial ether]

Ditto . If I catch a helltide at the start I do mystery chests too.

I am looking forward to their first season.

[paper lagoon]

Diablo community discord is dumb asf lol

I post in the wt4 dungeon lfg but I get timed out for 5 minutes for not putting wt4 dungeon then I get another time out in general for typing wt4 dungeon lmao

[jovial ether]

oh no

i havent bothered with that, i hit you guys up or bother my husband for help

[paper lagoon]

Also if you guys don't know if you accidentally put a aspect on your gear that's higher level than you putting another lower level aspect does not fix the level requirement change it stays at the higher level

[jovial ether]

didnt notice :x

thanks lol

[paper lagoon]

Anyone trying to xp farm? Got room for 2 more

[uneven quarry]

Did u try farming in pvp area? Drops are good, plenty of mobs, dunno about xp coz I m not getting any

[naive surge]

Might a nasty thorns build on my barb for PvP and got the most slurs messaged at me ive ever gotten since the xbox 360 days

Thorns is a little busted against other players, was able to afk and get like 10 kills when i ran out of coffee

[deep fable]

Don’t know if any of y’all are here in America but happy 4th of July have a fun day y’all

[bleak canopy]

Do you know if that also scales up the aspects that are flat damage numbers to the gear level?

Like say I have a low level dust devils aspect, would that number go up on higher level gear?

[oak plaza]

yeah, I think im just gonna come back and roll a druid for season 1

[jovial ether]

Im thinking necro for season 1 , rogue is fun but i wanna wield a sythe and raise the dead

[urban vortex]

Necro has been pretty fun. I think Rogue for S1 for me. The pew pew beckons.

[indigo skiff]

I’m rolling barb for S1

[storm basin]

I have a druid now and s1 im between barb or sorc

[violet walrus]

I really wanted to get my rogue up to 100 but it's just going slower than I'd like. I'm still trying to decide between Druid and Necro for season 1.

[jovial ether]

i think im 88...it do be slow , but i hop on for a little bit at a time , die in dungeons and leave lol

[late patrol]

Yeah I'm at a point where its very slow going, and I'm debating hopping in to level or just holding off so I'm not burnt out for season 1

[low shore]

It crashed my browser regularly while watching streams, and my PC locked up once, so I haven't been getting around to starting it the past week because of that.

[indigo skiff]

getting to 100 is a slog

[storm basin]

around 80 you hit a wall of xp

[viral topaz]

For me at lvl83 it was around 8 nm dungeons per level (monster level needs to be atleast +3 above your own)

(at least in the newer patch)

[proud hatch]

Yes the XP grind is real after 80ish. The way around this is now Nightmare dungeons and fight mobs that are at lease 3 levels above you. If you want to now the level of mobs in a dungeon it is Tier of the sigil +54. Also if you want any help, If I am on I am willing to help (unless I am already helping someone)

[paper lagoon]

I dont think so I think it has to be base level its found at bc I have seen let's say the razor playe be at 6k for a sacred and 14k for ancestors

[uneven quarry]

I only noticed a lil difference on lvl 98 . When xp rly started to crawl

[low shore]

Getting to 101 is the real struggle

[uneven quarry]

I honestly would love lvl cap increase

It would motivate to play game a little more

[naive surge]

Ill take a tier v to make 85 to 100 have a reason to grind out before a level cap increase tbh

The 1% upgrades are fun to grind for min maxing, but after you're cap. Not while you're still leveling lol makes it feel so bad

[uneven quarry]

thats some slaughter right there

bois decided to gatecamp

[indigo skiff]

I avoid the fields because I get one shot by barbs on sight

Level 100 barbs*

[late patrol]

I only go in there if it's dead and I can find a corner to farm in. Ain't got time to be wasting getting ganked by lvl100 minmaxed PvP builds. Just want my honse so I can never enter that zone again o_o

[indigo skiff]

I dislike it because I’m always on the receiving end of the ganking. Dying to someone you have NO chance against isn’t fun

And getting to level 100 JUST for that is not worth the time investment

[uneven quarry]

might be wrong in a head but GOD i LOVE toxic players

[indigo skiff]

nah you just know youre living in their head rent free. the reaction is funny because its completely out of proportion

A normal response (on their part) is to not say anything and just leave

or alternatively, get your own goons

[low shore]

It's ridiculous when you have the upper hand and they get mad Not so much if they're PKing/ganking and being toxic while having the upper hand

I usually just report them either way and get on with it

[quaint crest]

i need to finish d3 first

[uneven quarry]

If I report, who will entertain me

[naive surge]

People bming me is the main reason i like world pvp

It fuels me, but yea you have to leave that at the door lol i don't get mad losing my shards or whatever. You have to expect level 100s being in the t3 zones

[uneven quarry]

Wait, I didn't think about that at all. Being 100lvl and hunting in wt3 is cringe

But being lvl 70 AND talking sht every death at wt4 is triple cringe

full geared dud hunting wt3 players. Unless for killcount

[naive surge]

Yea it is, im like 73, so i just leave and deal with it

[low shore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ih-nvMvxV8

[low shore]

They disabled chat after whining about the first 20 minutes being about a new class Diablo Immortal

[lament spear]

makes sense

[late patrol]

Why would they think bringing up Diablo Immortal would go any other way. I remain baffled that's still running given that they otherwise tanked their relationship in the publishing region.

[lament spear]

Not everything can drop uniques and it was written nowhere. Good job guys
(helltide chests will now start dropping uniques but not whispers caches)

[violet walrus]

Letter jump scare

[lament spear]

Season of the Malignant - July 20th

[violet walrus]

I have two weeks to decide between druid and necro

I'm doomed.

[low shore]

Swap whenever you die with one, and back again on the next death

[lament spear]

Corruption across Sanctuary
Elites can be corrupted that gives them new powers
Once dead they drop a heart that you can activate with a ritual
That spawns even stronger enemies and once dead you gain a caged heart
Caged heart can be slotted in gear like gems for new powers (42 different abilities)
3 different color slots and 4 different type of malignant powers

[jovial ether]

Ty for the TLDR! even though im listening live. this is great

[low shore]

There will probably be a short version up on icy-veins in an hour, but the live transliteration is nice

[lament spear]

You can break those caged hearts for a new ressources : invokers
Can be used in tunnels (dungeons that have higher chance of having corrupted) to have a better chance of having a caged heart of a specific color slot

[proud hatch]

Ya, targeted farming so hopefully not have a chest full of random items

[low shore]

They didn't specifically mention it, but it looks like this mechanic will be available from the get-go, and not just end game/higher tier. The videos show low level characters.

[lament spear]

yeah since the color slot on items is random, you at least will be able to target the color of the caged hearts but not the inverse

Season journey :
7 chapters with differents objectives in it
chapters rewards legendary aspects and cache

You need to have finished the campaign to access the seasonal mechanics

You can skip it if you have already did it when you create a new character on the seasonal realm.

[low shore]

That part will probably cause some confusion and ire

Though I think the alternative would be to force your new seasonal character to play through the campaign again.

[lament spear]

You can earn smoldering ashes through the battlepass to invest them into different bonuses (more xp/gold/salvage material/powerful heart dropped/etc)
Free track so available to everyone

What's up with renown :
all areas discovered will be carried alongside the associated renown
all altars of lilith will be carried alongside the associated renown

---

! IMPORTANT !

Once the patch gets live
You'll have to log in with the character that has the most progress - all of that progress will be propagated through your entire account
So now the seasonal character will have the progression when you create it.
You need to do that once.

---

[proud hatch]

Yes, BIG NOTE there

[violet walrus]

Also, they mentioned earlier that the patch will go live on 7/18 (even though the season isn't starting until 7/20)

[lament spear]

why is that clunky ?
the original plan was to re-farm all the renown stuff so they had to find a solution so that you wouldn't

If the last patch was considered "chunky", season 1 patch will be "super chunky"

Q&A:
Re-spec
longer term plan to improve the flow
In the season you can earn a scroll of amnesia to re-spec for free (everything)

[proud hatch]

ooooo, That scroll of amnesia sounds nice (the full free respect)

[storm basin]

The scroll can be used on the eternal chara

[lament spear]

Q&A :
Seasonal mechanic could come back in eternal if they are working real well but initially no because of their impact on the game if they were stacked every season.

Q&A : why can't we TP directly into nightmare dungeon
It was a quick implementation from the team and will be looking into it in the future to make it better

[late patrol]

So pretty much as I thought. Fastest way to add it was to just plop you in front of the gateway rather than trying to work out items spawning instances and teleporting you into them.

[lament spear]

Q&A :
There will be regular moment in the seasons where they reserved themselves to do buff/nerf to keep things stable

Q&A : how much time between seasons
Minimum of 12 weeks - some could be longer

A new patch note up this afternoon and that's it

[proud hatch]

Some nice news, thought the one thing I want to know about they avoided, which is stash size. Gems is nice, but only takes up 7 spots now in chest and 21 in alt mule (4 full stacks of royals of each type) I determined is anuff gems

[lament spear]

I believe they said some time ago we would have a specific tab for gems (or that it would go into materials) but that would be around season 2.

[low shore]

I think they avoided it because they were planning to add a tab as rewards each season (as in D3), and it could be a bit hard to change the code for that. And they might not want to from a design/reward perspective, but don't want to tell the ones giving feedback about it that they are wrong.

I like the PoE way of doing it, but that's a "free" game selling additional and special tabs, so it would be badly received in D4 which is a paid game I think. I would be okay if there was a premium currency that you could both earn in-game and buy to use for utilities like that, but that might also be badly received.

[jovial ether]

im lvl 91 now, i feel like i cant play anything else until i hit 100 lol with that said, i am running nightmare dungeons and have 2 spots open if anyone wants to grind

Tier 44ish

[paper lagoon]

Anyone manage to get a shako before the hotfix?

[naive surge]

Isn't there only two or three confirmed globally? And like 2 grandfathers

[paper lagoon]

No lol they had a glitch last night after increasing drop chance

People were getting them in helltides left and right

[storm basin]

What happen? Helltides no longer drop uniques?

[paper lagoon]

They disabled shakos drop chance in helltide lol

1 guy got 2 in 55mins

[naive surge]

Well that's more then they'd have ever seen in their life playing daily before lol

[paper lagoon]

Lol right

[naive surge]

So rates arent worse then the Powerball anymore?

Not meaning the glitch, but after they fixed that, its still buffed?

[uneven quarry]

when you carry 60k red dust and visible on map

Jesus, how hard they want to get you

[indigo skiff]

Red dust isn’t droppable tho

Or do you mean the orbs or whatever

[ashen swallow]

hey d4 gamers, havent touched the game in a bit, pretty excited for season 1 though

[uneven quarry]

during the farming process, stacking it up to 60k. It drops when you die.

but the one in your inventory is safe

[indigo skiff]

Oh I know. I thought the stuff you pick up was called something else and only became dust when you redeemed it

Semantics mostly

[uneven quarry]

so much death happens when you carry that much

[indigo skiff]

I don’t need to be carrying anything for it to happen to me

[uneven quarry]

pvp chatters r the best

[low shore]

Minions of your own now

The little monster all grown up

[paper lagoon]

Nope should be obtainable now

Haku the scourge of the red dust fields

[naive surge]

Its not red dust until you leave the fields smh

Pretty stoked for season one. I have until August 3rd to max my battle pass

[paper lagoon]

Why til the 3rd?

[naive surge]

Baldur's gate 3

[paper lagoon]

I need to finish my damn Lilith statues

[naive surge]

And then like 57 indie roguelikes and colony builders

Prime gaming reward for July if you link your bnet

Mount armor and the 2 trophies

[paper lagoon]

[proud hatch]

I must say, they say Temerity is very rare. I have 5. Now the aspect Bold Chieftain's is more rare. Only seen 4 of them and one of them was rolled back out of exitance.

[paper lagoon]

Yes but do you have 1 of tbe 6

[uneven quarry]

Can they Drop at pvp area?

Motivate me pls to grind the hell out of it

[naive surge]

Uniques can, i got 3 from the chests you can only open if you're marked for blood

Idk about the "uber uniques" though

[uneven quarry]

Yea that's what I m curious about

I m selling unique items coz got every common one

Need uber

[naive surge]

Pretty sure they still have drop rates that translate to not gunna get one?

Like 1 after 5 mill hours or something wild

[jovial ether]

Finally 100, i can play something else until season 1 now lol

[woeful pulsar]

grats, i need to get off my ass and get to 100 as well, still on lvl 70

got distracted by SF6 / new character in DNF Duel

[naive surge]

Just been taking the last couple weeks to kill some backlog before season 1. Got to lvl 75ish and called it good lol

This year specifically, i finish one game on my list and 3 more im hyped for come out in the same week. Like every month

[late patrol]

Yeah I have been doing everything but playing D4 so Im not burnt on it when season starts. Bunch of other stuff to do in the interim.

[naive surge]

Ready for season 1 in 3 days? Dont forget to log in with your other characters first so your map and statue data populates onto your seasonal character!

[jovial ether]

Yes! Cleared all the aspect dungeons so any alt I make has the skill

Whatcha planning to make for season 1? I'm going Necromancer.

[naive surge]

Did they say dungeons are transferring too now? Never saw that post. And probably barb again since there isnt a rebirth option yet

Im waiting until the pre patch to decide though, there are going to be many many balance changes. I want to see if they make ranged rogue more my style

[jovial ether]

Oh crap I thought I was getting ahead. Maybe not with the dungeons.

I though if you unlocked aspects, the alts got them but my brain totally forgot its a whole new server/system

Ah well lol

[naive surge]

Still good to have done for eternal and when the season ends

[jovial ether]

Ya, did you beat Uber Lilith?

I haven't tried that yet. Been 100 for a few days.

[naive surge]

Nah, stopped at 75ish. Was really starting to feel the no tier 5

Love the end game grind for that .1% upgrade. Just not 30 levels away from cap still

[jovial ether]

Ya it was rough. My husband was just grinding nightmare dungeons where I like variety of the tree quests and helltide too. I get so bored doing nightmare dungeons for more than two hours.

[naive surge]

I did a variety too, id love if helltides became more cinematic and impactful feeling overtime. Kind of a big deal on the overworld

Like more events unique to them and insane mob density would be so friggen sweet

The remind me of closing oblivion gates in oblivion and those got crazy

[storm basin]

I reach 100 yesterday on druid, i hope they go hard on helltide style on play. Thats is the best

[naive surge]

Yea for sure my favorite content, they just need to crank it to 11

[jovial ether]

I saw a neat suggestion on Reddit to make strongholds refresh or be a sort of the helltide.

[naive surge]

That would be cool, i loved the strongholds. Maybe even have like an uber lilith tier difficulty of resetting stronghold

[storm basin]

nightmare strongholds key like dungeons maybe

[proud hatch]

The patch is here....Time to see how all those changes affect everything and what I have to change the build

[jovial ether]

Ah I'm at work. Gotta wait till I get home.

[lament spear]

new unique :
Ahavarion Spear of Lycander (Uber Unique Staff – World Tier 4): Gain a random Shrine effect for 10-20 seconds after killing an Elite enemy. Can only occur once every 30 seconds.

Developer’s Note: Ahavarion Spear of Lycander is an extremely rare drop. We wish you luck in recovering it from the armies of the Burning Hells.

Imagine finally getting a uber unique and you get this trash

[jovial ether]

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23964909/diablo-iv-patch-notes

[lament spear]

The Oculus (Unique Wand): Gain the effect of the Teleport Enchantment for free. When you Evade using Teleport Enchantment, you are taken to a random location.

you are taken to a random location

Ha yes please keep giving sorcerer uniques with maluses, it's so fun to play

[lament spear]

Devouring Blaze bonus Critical Strike damage reduced from 10/20/30% to 7/14/21%.
Devouring Blaze bonus Critical Strike damage to Immobilized reduced from 25/50/75% to 10/20/30%.

Thanks that's totally going to help the class

[naive surge]

My favorite change is the big fat nerf to vulnerable lol 40% less damage. Now all damage feels good with vuln being a cherry rather then mandatory like slag was in borderlands 2

[frail lily]

bruh whats with the sorc unique

they made the worst part of the oculus from Diablo 2 into a unique

[lament spear]

yeah sorcerer just feels like it got batnerfed and then they totally ignored the massive survability issues of the class...

[late patrol]

My Vuln pet build that already didn't get any uniques/items that helped it:

[proud hatch]

So on my HoTA build which I previously say 7.7 Mil, I have only seen one 3.9 Mil. Works the same as before on normal leveled mobs, on nightmares... level 115 mobs I only saw 900K.

Other thoughts seeing the new Nightmare dungeons show up, and Helltides are ignorable. Took 40 mins to get 250 shards to open a chest that I would say not any better

[lament spear]

Yeah, previously you could get 4 mysteries chest during the hour.
Now...

[violet walrus]

My flurry rogue wasn't great but it had survivability, at least. Which it doesn't have now.

[storm basin]

that's my fear with sorc, i want to play it on s1 but seems not easy to sustain damage

[proud hatch]

also I did not know, the blacksmith can make sigil powder

[lament spear]

You're better wait for season 2 or whenever they plan to fix the elemental resistances on which the class based itself
It mostly get rough on the end game where you just get OS randomly compared to other classes in the same situation
The more you progress, the more you see it happening...

[storm basin]

ok, time to barb

[urban vortex]

I fully admit I haven't been paying attention to patch notes because I was trying to finish the campaign and get all the shrines (also my video card shit the bed last night while I was trying to prepare for S1, RIP). Is any class going to be hot garbage in S1? I want ranged rogue to be viable because the pew pew beckons.

[naive surge]

Ok so finished reading the entire patch notes and I'm trying really hard not to get caught up in the massive storm of hate but uh i think im just going to play other things and ignore the s1 entirely? Not a decision I was thinking id be making even a few hours ago

Feels bad, i was hype too but theres so much anti QoL changes

[jovial ether]

Did you get the ultimate edition or whatever that gives you the season pass? You don't have to redeem the pass if you don't want to. I think they said you can save it for another time if you want.

I got remnant 2 and baldurs gate 3 that I'm more interested in right now though to be honest. Than season 1.

[naive surge]

Yea I just saw that. Saving the pass for later and just going to play those same 2 games actually

[jovial ether]

sweet!

[naive surge]

As much as I strongly dislike the majority of the update, i do feel like id be less critical of it and less willing to drop the game entirely if there wasn't so much other stuff starting to launch right now

[jovial ether]

same.

[proud hatch]

Now fulling reading those patch notes..so Barbs that great ability Hamstring to slow all bleeding enemies for crowd control, now only effects healthy enemies

[ashen swallow]

some absolutely weird changes for sure

[woeful pulsar]

welp, there goes my entire Rogue build then. it literally revolves around procing nonstop vulnerable

[jovial ether]

same!

[brave island]

season of necromancer most likely

everything else got butchered

[naive surge]

As long as you don't want to play minions sure lmao

[brave island]

yeah, play druid if you want minions

[late patrol]

That works for me as I was planning on doing a minion focused Druid this season anyway

[jovial ether]

Silly question. Does the Clan carry through to the season realm?

I feel like no, but I could be wrong

[late patrol]

Not sure we will have confirmation until it starts but I imagine the clans should be account wide, regardless of realm.

[brave island]

if they work the same way as d3 it should carry over

[jovial ether]

Oh neat .ok

[storm basin]

The clan is account wide, not per character

[jovial ether]

Heck yeah

[proud hatch]

So a impromptu campfire stream this Friday from the programing team, so how much backing up will they do? Also I thought up of a question, since they nerfed the xp gains for higher level mobs, I wonder if they also adjusted for lower level mobs?

[brave island]

Campfire will most likely be them either apologizing and reverting some of the more drastic changes or the devs explaining why the changes are good for the longevity of the game (which isn’t wrong, but they were done too early) and reassuring us that the season mechanic will counterbalance the nerfs

[lament spear]

reassuring us that the season mechanic will counterbalance the nerfs

I mean yeah but people in Eternal are still affected.
Like Sorcerer might be playable in Seasonal with some gems but in eternal ? The nerfs were too hard for no reason and no relevant buffs.

Can't wait to see what they have to say 🍿

[proud hatch]

I agree, the people in the Eternal will suffer the most. I take the idea of not using my free battle pass of deluxe on this season and just do the free content. I think I might just play the class I most least on to play and just do enough season to finish the free content of the battle pass. I will also take the idea of playing other games like FF16 and Boulder's gate

[versed cedar]

^^ right there with ya. I'm spending time on ff16, diablo, and exoprimal. A lil bit of fomo on not binging in any, but it's fun in it's own way, divvying the gaming up

[brave island]

There was one youtube video with the guy explaining that these changes are made to kill the Eternal realm so everyone will be incentivized to make seasonal characters

Can’t say that’s 100% wrong at this point

[lament spear]

I mean sure, that wouldn't be the first time i those kind of choices being made but they're mostly killing the playerbase

[brave island]

At least wait until PoE2 before killing off the playerbase

[brave island]

what

Didn't know it was today

[proud hatch]

Yep it starts today.... Now to play a Sorc...I just wish I could make a "rune soldier" version.

[brave island]

I'm torn between Sorc and Necro

[lament spear]

Necro bone spear is still strong (clear uber lilith way faster than other classes), even more in the season thanks to some gems.
And Rogue poison seems to have been buffed.

Also they seems to have added back the button to reset the dungeons.

[frail lily]

It said to log into your previous char to save all the altars etc

I'm stuck forever trying to start a game on my sorc

[vernal ember]

Same, was on my way to the worldboss, started rubberbanding like crazy, tried relogging and now I'm stuck on the same screen

[brave island]

at least you finished the update, mine is stuck at 22KB/s dl on a 2gigabit internet connection

[frail lily]

oof

[brave island]

Everyone playing necro, rogue and some druid

no barbs or sorcs

[viral topaz]

had that happen as well, stopping and starting again helped for me

[brave island]

I've restarted my pc and my modem, dl climbed up to 80MB/s for like 2 mins, and now back to 22KB/s

[viral topaz]

[lament spear]

yeah i had that for the previous update >.>
i suppose their servers have some difficulties affecting everything

[viral topaz]

[uneven quarry]

Dont worry, once you download update, the next issue you face is long queues

and that

[viral topaz]

ironically as soon as I posted it fixed itself

[uneven quarry]

lucky

[viral topaz]

Ah no nvm it let me go into the area... but nothing is there

[brave island]

why everyone moonwalking

[uneven quarry]

classic fckin blizzard i guess? Queue simulator

oh, logged in lol

[brave island]

It finally finished downloading, hope I can login

I wonder why

[gusty quest]

Man all this time to determine what class I want to run for season 1 and still unsure

[brave island]

necro

[gusty quest]

Did they add a 5th renown claim?

[brave island]

It was always there iirc

[brave island]

Careful with the battle pass lads, if you click activate premium by mistake there goes your money without needing confirmation for the transaction

[naive surge]

They took the 2 seconds it takes to notify you and added it to the leave dungeon channel time

[paper lagoon]

Just solo killed the butchers punk ass at lvl 21

[gusty quest]

I think if you bought the deluxe edition you got the battle pass as part of it

[naive surge]

You did, but you dont have to redeem it

Im saving mine to see if season 2 is good enough to pull me away from bg3 and armored core

It should still confirm if you want to redeem it though. Deluxe was still money spent

[brave island]

no sorc fixes from campfire, this is so sad

[lament spear]

Most hilarious thing i heard : ho yeah we nerfed sorcerer to bring it on par with other builds.
When they already were the weakest class.

[gusty quest]

Man the main storyline was a boon for leveling

[lament spear]

Bruh

[brave island]

[violet walrus]

This is a problem FF14 has and I'm pretty sure their instance caps are higher.

[brave island]

it's an infrastructure question then

this is why spaghetti code memes are a thing

[violet walrus]

I think for the lifespan of D4 the devs are going to be struggling through the decision to make it a pseudo-MMO instead of, you know, whatever you'd classify D2 and D3 as.

[brave island]

I bet this is why WOW lags so much as well

Their skeleton code that they use on every game they make is flawed

[civic storm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4BeAQ3ue90

[indigo skiff]

If we’re already having this kind of problem when the game is brand new… cmon Blizz

[gusty quest]

People are running out of stash room? I’m not sure I’ve filled the first stash on either account

[indigo skiff]

Mine is mostly aspects

I imagine it’s a lot worse if you do more than one class

[naive surge]

We have clan inactivity rule? Like if im sitting out s1 to play other things will i get the boot lol

[jovial ether]

That's a good question. I think there is still plenty of room in the clan, so maybe it's not an issue yet. Perhaps a mod can chime in to clarify.

I had a great time on release and enjoyed helping and playing. I got work and two other games coming my way I want to play , so I likely won't participate in season 1 as well.

[naive surge]

Yea I'll be playing again later but no form of media will have a chance to pull me away from bg3 in my spare time for a couple months easy

[late patrol]

Looks like there's 45 of 108 in the clan right now so shouldn't be an issue

[urban vortex]

[drowsy spire]

should be good
plus even if we do boot anyone, can always reinvite later

[low shore]

but muh followage

[drowsy spire]

but nah, i don't think we're gonna need to boot, clan is still application-based anyway

[low shore]

Yeah, no need until its full. And if someone is inactive, not much to complain about anyway

[drowsy spire]

[gusty quest]

I don’t think rogue is for me 😕 but not sure I want to restart either

[brave island]

depends what lvl are you rn

also, imo, the one build that feels good on rogue pre legendaries and uniques is twisting blades flurry

[gusty quest]

42, just used to necro play style

[gusty quest]

So many different twisting blades builds out there oof

[jovial ether]

https://www.icy-veins.com/d4/guides/twisting-blades-rogue-build/

I enjoyed this one

[gusty quest]

Do the differing imbuements stack cause max roll uses both cold and shadow

[brave island]

there's legendaries that make them interact with each other

[urban vortex]

I have spent fully 2 days not making my rogue because I can't come up with a funny little name. Is this how I quit D4?

[brave island]

roll another class then, maybe the name will come easier that way

[urban vortex]

Already have an eternal necro and druid, which were the two others I was interested in. Barb and sorc are super meh for me.

It'll resolve itself, I'm sure. Simply trapped in a hell of my own design.

[drowsy spire]

Rad Homonym

[urban vortex]

I went with Arrowmantic, but goddamn that's good too.

[paper lagoon]

Anyone running summon necro in t4?

[urban vortex]

https://youtu.be/Sl07-ZNhk3k

[sacred lantern]

So, just a heads up, if you have real id turned on through Blizzard, make sure to turn it off because for some reason in the recent update for diablo 4, it shows your name in the game now. If you turn off real id on blizzard, it gets rid of it. Figured i would let yall know so you don't get doxxed by Diablo 4 on accident

[weak steppe]

Yea has been an issue since launch

Or similar issue at least, if you added anyone it would show real id unless you turned it off.

[sacred lantern]

But i think now, it shows it regardless if you are friend or not on the guild page on diablo 4. Unless i never noticed it before

[urban vortex]

Wow yup, that was my whole ass name in there. Fuckin' a.

Wait, I have Real ID disabled and it still showed my full name.

[jovial ether]

Jokes on them, I got married so my name changed

[low shore]

I can't say for certain about D4, but your Real ID friends will usually see your real name in the other games, while your ingame and Battle Tag friends just see your character name

Disabling Real ID (also hides your Real ID friends' IDs) is done in Account Settings > Privacy & Communication > Update / Real ID

[woeful pulsar]

indeed jokes on them BUT CONGRATS!

[jovial ether]

ha thanks! will be three years in December

[woeful pulsar]

DAYUM!!! ULTRA CONGRATS!

[worn stream]

Just learned that there's a Geega D4 clan so I just applied in-game. Thanks. Reishid#6459

[drowsy spire]

I don't think any of us actually log in anymore, so it may be better to join a diff clan

[late patrol]

I do

[storm basin]

i have seen maybe 3 people log in

[ashen swallow]

i do too a little infernal legions are pretty fun

[drowsy spire]

are there any regulars who want to be promoted to officer then to handle invites?

just give me your in-game name

[ashen swallow]

i'm not sure i'm regular enough but better than invites piling up i suppose ? neurawr#1324

[worn stream]

I'm not in the clan yet and would love an invite. I log in a couple of times a week and I don't mind helping out with handling invites if they are piling up. I'm basically in the same boat as neu. I have an active request right now under Reishid#6459

[drowsy spire]

oop, looks like it's not letting me promote anyone else right now, not sure why

I guess just make sure that people are still tagging me for invites then