OldRoot

[astral zenith]

@sacred aurora u got photoshop

[umbral mauve]

Peak pfp

Still gotta say

anyway ARG time

So

Any ideas for any picture?

[astral zenith]

cheers

[astral zenith]

it need straightening before i get any idea

[umbral mauve]

Real

[umbral mauve]

Any ideas for a lead? Like idk at this point

I’m lost

[umbral mauve]

Like idk

I can think of ideas

Just idk how to execute it

[astral zenith]

yeah same

[buoyant sphinx]

what are we trying to do by rearranging the picture?

[astral zenith]

seeing if there is anything hidden

[umbral mauve]

Yea

[umbral mauve]

Any leads to OldRoot?

I’m thinking we try to scan the pictures again for secrets

I’m not sure tho

[astral zenith]

i got no idea

[umbral mauve]

Same

[umbral mauve]

Maybe

[sacred aurora]

if you want i can try like arrange everything

but ion got photoshop

i tried my best to rearrange (i collored the background in blue so it could match the pic)

[umbral mauve]

Looks like smth we know already right?

Maybe this

[sacred aurora]

i dont really know

maybe it could be 481w?

[astral zenith]

looks right tbh

4819W

https://imgur.com/4891W

@umbral mauve i think you did it slightly wrong

were missing 2 characters

were missing 2 characters

48149W

https://imgur.com/48149W

[umbral mauve]

Ohhh

[umbral mauve]

No page?

[astral zenith]

nope

incorrect link

https://imgur.com/W94184

[umbral mauve]

I feel we just have no idea what to do

[reef eagle]

I FOUND SOMETHING

there are three hidden texts that i can make out

bottom right

and also the background looks like the symbols from the spectogram from "5"

also the gta thing, if you go back a couple years, there is a second image

[nocturne trout]

From where?

[reef eagle]

It was an already discovered image, but i maxed contrast and a couple other things and i seem to have found something

[reef eagle]

I am not sure someone else has already discovered it cause i see no mention of it in the chan so yeah

[reef eagle]

Discovery-ish made!

[mild wraith]

Hello

[old meteor]

Oldroot???

https://tenor.com/tCf6rRgLVgQ.gif

[nocturne trout]

Hello oldroot (not affiliated with the ARG)

[sacred aurora]

the gta thing is just prob random stuff

i dont think it has anything for it

like anything to do with the arg

[reef eagle]

Yeah bu ti just found more pictures if it is related but probs not

[worn tendon]

There's a line of text under the bottom one, we're missing an image.

You can see the tips of letters

[mild wraith]

holes adds well...holes

[glossy herald]

should i get retrogamingnow on this?

[nocturne trout]

Wasn't he already on it?

[mild wraith]

SIZE 2 FISH

[summer cloud]

They finally fixed ultrakill

[swift sky]

oh wow, the map of hell is actually fish

[flint gyro]

theres text on the bottom

very bottom, not bottom right

[reef eagle]

You mean the tips of the red text at the bottom? I was talking about the 2 faint 'texts' that blend in with the weird background

[mellow bobcat]

Looks really complex ngl and barely eligible, the background if it's supposed to be text

I just look into this chat time to time to see the progress, I wanna get into it again, but I don't wanna confuse people with my Thinking, I think outside the box to much and make it way more complicated than it really is

[umbral mauve]

OWAH

WOAH

WOAH! We got smth?

Wait

Hmm

8 letters maybe

[umbral mauve]

Yea

I see the faint text

I can’t (well I don’t have the ability to on iPhones simple photos app) but I can’t make anything out

Maybe an I?

Maybe an A or R

P , E , F??

[rose perch]

the first letters I think are Sc

the other idk

[autumn monolith]

adjusted it a bit

5 r i 1 8 J R

maybe

Sr1i8JR is my final guess

[rose perch]

i think it's b actually

[umbral mauve]

Hmm

[rose perch]

brn80R?

[prime jay]

6rUi8JR

[rose perch]

nope

it didnt work

[reef eagle]

glad i sparked up the oldroot community!! 🙂

[umbral mauve]

XD

[sacred aurora]

i kinda highlighted the things out

the R at the end looks like a P kinda

[umbral mauve]

It’s 7 letters/numbers?

6r[smth] 1 8[or B] L (or J) R

That’s what I think

[sacred aurora]

im 100% sure it is 7 letters

it has to me an imgur link

but i dont know what letters r there

the first two are 6r

but after that i dont know

maybe 6r18JR

or 6r18JP

oh wait thats only 6 letters

i think it might be 6r518JR?

or 6r518JP

but neither work on imgur

i made it a little more clear incase it helps

[umbral mauve]

Hmm

[umbral mauve]

What if it’s 6r5i8jr(p)

Yk

[rose perch]

dunno if this means anything

[sacred aurora]

3

https://tenor.com/view/tree-gif-16522588208098851292

[umbral mauve]

😭

[rose perch]

[mild wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-kitten-explosion-explode-gif-13413781400084246782

[prime jay]

https://imgur.com/new-image-from-oldroot-6rUi8JR

[umbral mauve]

wha

[umbral mauve]

maybe look at the bolded stuff?

[swift sky]

why this posted again? its already been decoded I think

[umbral mauve]

im not sure, tho this mystery goes deep ig

[swift sky]

this has atleast one answer (bottom text is the "if you wish to know the future" thing)

[prime jay]

For what I know nobody knows what they're doing. I just want people to be on the same page.

[umbral mauve]

thats fair tbh

[sly saffron]

I think that if this ARG is ever going to be solved then we might need to decode older clues in a different way

What has not been tried yet?

[prime jay]

This is everything from the later part of the arg as you can see I've came to the conclusion that all the image that are followed by red arrow were added later due to the community being unable to solve it the yellow arrow are because the way the image were found do not make sense based on dates images were uploaded so I've came to the conclusion it was intended to be found by solving the previous image the arrow came from the gray arrow is the way the image was actually found by and last the yellow text is just me guessing and the red and black is what I can definitely confirm is there.

[prime jay]

The stuff scribble out is a waste of time . The future bit is there because of a pattern I recognize on how it's structured

The last image it's probably most definitely talking about the light house from Edgar Allan Poe I've tried to come to other conclusions but nothing else has worked better than that.

[sly saffron]

why can I not upload images here?

NVM

LOL

[umbral mauve]

hmm

[sly saffron]

I REACHED THE LEVEL AS I SAID THAT

[umbral mauve]

im not sure

[sly saffron]

I needed more levels

okay

so

Has anyone discovered this yet?

I stacked the alpha channels over and over again btw

[prime jay]

Yes and there is also a third one in the water that says HBG

[sly saffron]

can you give me a zip folder with all the unknown clues so far?

[sly saffron]

please

[umbral mauve]

i didn't know that existed

[sly saffron]

???

[umbral mauve]

what??

[sly saffron]

can anyone make a zip folder with all the unsolved clues and send it to me?

[umbral mauve]

if i could i would have..

[sly saffron]

do you wanna work with me on solving the arg?

im bored rn and got a lot of free time

[umbral mauve]

its been years bro...

[sly saffron]

I know

[umbral mauve]

idt we gonna solve something

[sly saffron]

I've been doing my own research

[umbral mauve]

oh..

[sly saffron]

didn't get far though

[umbral mauve]

spill the tea

[sly saffron]

I have a few possible theories

[umbral mauve]

hmm

[nocturne trout]

mrfooj48 is the go to person for the oldroot stuff as of late. If you want to, you can update the now outdated RGN presentation (in the pins), by making a copy.

[sly saffron]

one is that we have to stack the alpha channels of the images

[umbral mauve]

this be out of my league

😭

[sly saffron]

the most likely scenario is that we have missed something in old clues

also, if there is any cipher that yall need help with i have ways to break ciphers without knowing their keys

[umbral mauve]

bro, did you just become the key to this???

[sly saffron]

?

what do you mean?

[umbral mauve]

you might be able to solve ts bro

[sly saffron]

ever since RGN made his video on oldroot ive been into cryptography and have learned a lot

[umbral mauve]

haven't we all...

[umbral mauve]

keep it up tho bro

we need people like you

[prime jay]

I don't think there is a single thing that has all of the unknown hints and stuff

[sly saffron]

wanna solve the rest of the arg together?

what are you stuck on?

[umbral mauve]

oh man, we gonna get a little progress, tho... this is gonna be out of my league 😭

[sly saffron]

@prime jay

what is the latest clue

updated me on progress

???

[prime jay]

Vigenere^3 and the lighthouse from Edgar Allan Poe

[sly saffron]

okay

might be false prophets tho

has the self-referencing cipher method been used?

[prime jay]

I don't know

[sly saffron]

basicaly

you can easily solve any vigenere cipher without knowing the key word if the cipher contains the keyword itsself

basicaly if the ciphered text is "Secret message to the world" and is encrypted using the word "world" then you can easily brute force it in less than 2 mins

[prime jay]

Oh I don't think it work then based on the size of the text encrypted being an imgur link

[sly saffron]

it will work

on any size of text

same amound of time

you just gotta check each word manualy

i use AI to do that

its very fast

gimmie the image or the image link and ill try it

[prime jay]

https://imgur.com/ywDgKoE

[sly saffron]

is that realy it?

the unsolved clue?

[prime jay]

Yes

The last image that was found.

[sly saffron]

what about geet7v

that cant be hard to find

could be a ciphered version of a URL

perhaps a vigenere cipher

still nothing

[prime jay]

These are the hints that were given after the final image was found

[sly saffron]

could we use older puzzles with newer keys or repeat the vigenere method 3 times?

i mean... oldroot has made text with multiple meanings before

[prime jay]

He has and the thing is nothing I thought of has worked.

There is one thing I haven't tried but it's too far fetched to be true

And impossible for me to test.

[sly saffron]

nah i wanna hear it

crazy problems require crazy solutions

i might be crazy enough to attempt it

i got nothing better to do than work on this arg

just say it

[prime jay]

Well there is a server called zedworks that oldroot has been put puzzle in it

[sly saffron]

oh...

well... i dont have java edition bc of a problem with my account

when ill solve it i might play there

but still

say what u want

10/7/49?

my head is gonna explode lol

7 clues ago

might be

49/7=7

could it be?

[prime jay]

It's the day Poe died

[sly saffron]

nvm

wait

I have a stupid idea

should I say it?

message "Lord help my poor soul." to oldroot

its edgars last words

[prime jay]

I'm going to try to explain my reasoning if what oldroot said to look back to understand is Edgar Allan Poe's death then the author that lies dead must be Poe. And with the unfinished bit being of some importance it's safe to assume we are in search of something unfinished by Edgar Allan Poe death which can only be the lighthouse and if the second line an author unknown doesn't make since it could be talking to the narrator of that story the author of the diary entries and also be who died with its sudden ending.

[prime jay]

I don't think there would be a response.

[sly saffron]

lets take a step back

why is his name even oldroot?

what is the reason behind that

[prime jay]

I think it's either talking about the old roots of a tree or the cause of something long ago

[sly saffron]

geett7v is exactly the length of an imgur URL

[prime jay]

Yeah I've noticed but no one knows how to decipher it.

[sly saffron]

bro

can you please give me a random imgur url

i think im on to something

a url of an image

of oldroot image or smth

nvm

i tried the vigenere

on the url

didnt work

It has been so long

maybe we need to ask oldroot

after years the clues might have been deleted from the internet

we should ask him at least to verify if it's still solvable

[prime jay]

I've tried but I don't think he would know much about the arg since it's been so long.

[sly saffron]

before i go offline i have 1 last thing

we should at least try combining all the alpha channels of the images

and see what happens

think about it

why would he have herobrine shapes hidden in the alpha channels

if not to combine them to create a message

I don't have the tools to do it though

maybe yall can try

[sly saffron]

Yo anyone down to help me with the ARG today?

I got some fresh ideas

[sly saffron]

I have come up with 3 ideas

Idea 1

Eldorado is edgar's last poem so it might be the key to solving this code

Idea 2

stacking up the layers from all the images in different ways.

Idea 3

try decoding older clues in different ways

[sly saffron]

oldroot has already used lenore and the raven, so it only seems logical to me that he uses that as his next clue

@prime jay remember this image of "THE HIDDEN TRUTH IS"?

i discovered it has more layers

very interesting

[sly saffron]

another possibility is that its the same thing that they did with KAPREKAR

[sly saffron]

I couldnt get anything out of them tho u might wanna try yourself

[sly saffron]

I also found some strange things in this images metadata

I might be onto something

[sly saffron]

guys

I finally made progress

anyone here?

I finally got a new clue

I need to discuss this with someone

[sly saffron]

bro aint no way I geta lead on oldroot and everyone be afk

[sly saffron]

anyone here wanna help???

[sly saffron]

Ok so, I tried that and i got this as the output: NEWot7q

[sly saffron]

@here

I am also tryna solve the ILMSRSNf0GOQ

anyone wanna help?

[sly saffron]

dead chat fr

[nocturne trout]

That doesn't work

[frank rapids]

Did it work

[sly saffron]

any of the other things i said?

ive been brainstorming theories for the last 2 days with nobody to help me test them

[frank rapids]

I can try to test them

I'll do my hest

best

[frank rapids]

Could this be vigenere?

There are some weird grey colored blocks

On positions of the letters

[frank rapids]

And they form some weird lines when fiddling with contrast

There's some light colored overlaps

[sly saffron]

@frank rapids I tried resaving the image in the exact same quality and format and it had different size

meaning that there must be some hidden data

[frank rapids]

I don't know how to check that unfortunately

[sly saffron]

i did

[frank rapids]

BUT i have a lot free time rn so i will try to vigenere some things

[frank rapids]

This pic

[sly saffron]

opening the image using notepad revealed that there are like 20 lines of space and then there are more data

[frank rapids]

It seems like theres 25 - 27 blocks on the upscaled pic

Hold up imma count it

[sly saffron]

this is it

if you download it and open it in a text editor you can see that the text is actualy split up

no other image from oldroot does this

also, opening the image with photopea reveals folders that contain hidden layers

but i was unable to read them

[sly saffron]

@frank rapids read what i said from this message until now and tell me what you think would work

i had a lot of ideas

[frank rapids]

I think thatd work

Do you think this could work?

The spaces are even

And the light colored square is roughly on the "2" and "8"

[sly saffron]

waaaaaaait a second

its not even a png

its a bitmap image with extra layers embeded into a png

[frank rapids]

Uhhhhhhh

[sly saffron]

i cant open the layers tho

they appear empty

[frank rapids]

Wdym

[sly saffron]

it says there are layers but i cant open them

[frank rapids]

What application are yiu using

[sly saffron]

photopea

on the web

idk what

but theres def something going on with this image

i asked chat gpt what to do with it

it gave me some python scripts and stuff but i got nothing out of it

[sly saffron]

NOOO!

why you saved it as jpg

you should always save ARG images as png

jpg may remove any metadata or hidden layers

[frank rapids]

Sorry

[sly saffron]

its fine dude im just saying

what you think about eldorado?

edgars last poem

[frank rapids]

I honestly dont remember it

[frank rapids]

For some reason it only let me save it as webp

[sly saffron]

from photopea?

i never save images from there i only use it to find hidden layers, but i am sure there is a way to save as png

[frank rapids]

Imma try

[sly saffron]

just press the download icon

[frank rapids]

Also, if theres any vigenere involved could the key be related to that last line?

[frank rapids]

Im on mobile

[sly saffron]

https://www.boxentriq.com/code-breaking/vigenere-cipher

[frank rapids]

Cant access computer cuz it's a family shared one and here in my country discord is seen as a terrorist's website

[sly saffron]

this site can break any vigenere cipher without a key

[frank rapids]

Hmm

9298 vqqjb lookk a
8005 vqqjvv lookk m
6875 aneg grant i
6581 aqqqb goodd v
6094 aneg grapt i
6007 baaib feell u
5747 gnbp arden i
5616 gllp atten k
5568 pam reset j
5343 gttp allan c

[sly saffron]

i already tried

i brute forced hundreds of imgur links

[sly saffron]

for this

but they all proved to lead to nowhere

[frank rapids]

Damn

I don't know how to use photo savers though

[sly saffron]

how about this?

ok confirmed

classic caesar cipher doesnt work

[frank rapids]

I found some repeating lines in the end of this

But stupid dyno won't let me post

[sly saffron]

bro

it did it to me

rgn needs to fix his bots

[frank rapids]

Can i dm you the lines

[sly saffron]

sure

[sly saffron]

we need more people to work on this

[sly saffron]

yo @prisma fox sorry to pign but i think i found the next clue to this arg

[sly saffron]

@hereanyone wanna solve this arg with me or nah?

[nocturne trout]

Those pings don't work. Refrain from doing that

[nocturne trout]

Are you going to explain what you found?

[sly saffron]

i found loads of hidden metadata in "the hidden truth is" image

but wasnt able to extract them

i know for a fact there is something in there

[sly saffron]

this ARG is so dead

[sly saffron]

.

[sly saffron]

anyone knows what this is and how to solve it?

[brazen perch]

C'mon people we got another clue. You guys can solve this. You just need to put effort into it.

I wish I was smart to be able to help with this ARG

[sly saffron]

i did so much research yet nobody wants to help me verify the new clues i got.

@prime jay is the only person that can help me and he been offline for weeks

[cedar cedar]

27 12 12 15 6 20 8 5 4 15 20 19 1 18 5 6 9 14 1 12 12 25 19 20 1 18 20 9 14 7 20 15 3 15 14 4 5 3 20, 23 8 15 11 14 5 23 30 15 12 16 8 9 14 19 23 5 18 5 8 9 4 9 14 7 19 15 13 21 3 8?

is this the latest clue oldroot gave us?

i tried the A1Z26 Cipher (i know there's the number 27 to 30, but i separated the 27 to 2 and 7 and 30 to 3 and 0, or just 3) and i decided to write the letters that are within 1-26

and i got "BGLLOFTHEDOTSAREFINALLYSTLL"

all i could tie to make a phrase is: "THE DOTS ARE FINALLY"

maybe the next word is BLIGHT?

i don't know about the other L's

[cedar cedar]

since there are four 12's

[sly saffron]

Yo sorry i was offline

[sly saffron]

aha

[sly saffron]

What if found here is that there might be some images and archives hiddn inside the "the hidden truth is" image but idk how to find them and extract them...

there is def something we missed in that image

[cedar cedar]

Probably

But i can't download it rn on my tab, because full storage

[sly saffron]

oh

what i found is

[cedar cedar]

Yeahh, sorry

[sly saffron]

that the hidden trust image is split into 2 sections

[cedar cedar]

I'll take a look at it tomorrow if i can

[sly saffron]

look at this text file

[cedar cedar]

Oh?

[sly saffron]

so that might imply that the image ends in the first half and the 2nd half is an archive

putting the image into photopea reveals hidden layers but no way to access them

[cedar cedar]

Hm

This puzzle is confusing me

Awh i gotta go eep now

[sly saffron]

me too lol

k

cya

[open snow]

one of the oldest hardest minecraft ARGs left unsolved. the answer is somewhere scattered in the internet. possibly some imgur links from oldroot might be dead now

[sly saffron]

i think there might be solution

but i need people to help

nobody offered to help so far

[prime jay]

There might be a connection to whats said in KYuLOOU and this image with the idea of purging your material sense and opening your minds eye

It makes sense but I have no idea what this info could be used for

[sly saffron]

yo man

wanna talk about this arg more?

[prime jay]

https://www.zedwork.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1003

Could the mask be related to the image?

[sly saffron]

idk

you saw what i said?

i found possibly new clue

[prime jay]

I don't think there anything more to the image than you think there is

[sly saffron]

hm

[willow coral]

What about the pictures from oldroot on imgur?

[sly saffron]

i strongly believe there is tho

[sly saffron]

lost to time

im the only active person here

all hope is lost

[willow coral]

I won't give up on this

[sly saffron]

WHERE TF YOU FOUND THIS

[willow coral]

On imgur

[sly saffron]

are these new?

[willow coral]

Just put into my searchbar https://imgur/oldroot

Idk don't thing so b

[sly saffron]

link didnt work

[willow coral]

Imgur oldroot just

[sly saffron]

Do you like ARG's in general?

[willow coral]

Sorry

Yes i do

the Last comment under the picture is from last year

[sly saffron]

can you help me with another one then?

[willow coral]

Sure

[sly saffron]

i am working on 2 at the same time now

[willow coral]

2

[sly saffron]

the 3121534312

and the USER179 ARG

what u wanna do?

[willow coral]

let's write in private about this

[sly saffron]

k

[pseudo solstice]

wait anyone has a document

summerising everything so far

[sly saffron]

I LITERALLY ASKED FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE ONE

i mean... someone made like a map with all the clues and how they are connected but nobody has a folder that has the actual files themselfs

cuz zip folders are illegal in this server or something? idk its so stupid ngl

[sly saffron]

you know what

there is 1 phrase i never understood

"Those who are pure will see what hides in darkness"

maybe it has to do something with removing layers or doing something else to "purify" the imgae?

[sly saffron]

here you go

[sacred aurora]

the one on the bottom right that says "A?" is prob nothing just schizo guessing thingies

[frozen mortar]

Here's a strange thought. So, the quote about to know the future you must know the past is referring to the fact that history repeats itself. So, what if this past event we must know that'll repeat is in relation to the quote Before the Madness?

[prime jay]

https://www.reddit.com/r/theoldrootmystery/s/qgmLegBxYR

Hey I've been having trouble with something uh in the reddit thing there is this bit with crossed out text talk about two whitelists claiming to be oldroot and that they were led on a wild goose chase that was from a false prophet and ending with oldroot just sending the next image

I'm not sure if one or both are fake or not due to what seems to be found on zedworks before this as a thing on the website tells about the structures oldroot made on the sever 6-4 days before the whitelist were found and all that Im not sure if the post has been edited but still the signs found there talk about three deadly task almost the same as the first whitelist and the mystery awaits with patterns of three. And the video with a structure from zedworks shortly after strengthening the trust I have what there so uh what came first the stuff in zedworks or the whitelist that is believed appears to be fake? Except the fact it appears to predict a thing I zedworks. Also the other whitelist just says sacrifice in patterns of 3

https://www.zedwork.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1003 the structure is the mask

[sly saffron]

aha

[quaint hill]

Try using the wayback machine

Imagine alex bale comes out of nowhere declaring a new start to the arg

[open snow]

if only alex bale archived each imgur links. I've never heard him imply that he did

[sly saffron]

looks like we don't know the past

[sly saffron]

i hope this is active again one day

[willow coral]

probs got left how it is we got no more clues till now and have made lot's of notes probs

[sly saffron]

same

[limpid gale]

Does anyine here know if the google slides are up to date?

[limpid gale]

Has anyone solved the first images morse code?

I got toorus

[frozen mortar]

I have a question. Has anyone tried changing the color of some of the black images? I’m wondering if there’s text embedded in there using a different shade of black. Not brightening, but running a color swap on the black with zero tolerance.

Anyone have any ideas what STIEE or GEETt7v mean?

[frozen mortar]

The first image you sent. The more code translates to:

“We Still Are The Answer
Your Not Done With Oldroot.”

[willow coral]

welp

[frozen mortar]

“We Can See You” is the second.

Sorry it took me so long, I had to translate it manually lol.

[willow coral]

lul yeah it's fine

[frozen mortar]

Yes, there’s a typo in the first message I decoded. I’m confident I didn’t make a mistake. There’s simply no . after that R.

[willow coral]

uff

Welp im gonna go now me have school

[frozen mortar]

“You always see

What hides in

The darkness”

This is the decoded text in the middle. It was a Caesar Cypher with a 23 offset.

[frozen mortar]

AXG(Could be an 8)7(Could be a P)6(could be a B)

If we can figure out what cursive font was used here, we can actually decode it way easier.

@sly saffron Think you could help me find the font? I know it’s not handwritten because it’s too neat and perfect and the two Xs are identical. Just different cases.

Basically, the plan is. Find the font and type The Quick Brown Fox Jumped Over the Lazy Dog along with all the numbers in base 10. Then compare the symbols to see what each one in the image is.

[sly saffron]

i dont have the time for this right now

[willow coral]

Am Back and now have time

[rotund marsh]

that feels like it would just be a bunch of red herrings

especially since those two images you found are from 2023

LONG after alex stopped doing anything with oldroot afaik

[rotund marsh]

no because I have no clue what any of this means

[rotund marsh]

gimp doesn't show me this at all

[rotund marsh]

if there were something here 7zip would probably have been able to open it as a rar or zip for me

I think you're reading too much into a normal looking png file

[sly basalt]

if you turn this into .png you get a very dark image, which when brightened up, you see the word "RAVEN" and theres some unreadable text inside it.

[sly saffron]

I converted the image into text to see if there's anything inside

[sly basalt]

oh wait I sent the edited image

Heres the original

[sly saffron]

I noticed that the image in text form was split into 2 chunks. Could we get anything out of it?

[sly basalt]

Im currently busy right now I cannot work on this arg. Is there any tool to brighten images to a high level?

[sly basalt]

Ok I brightened the image

I turned the the hidden truth is .txt file to .png then back to .txt and I found just blank space text.

I converted found.txt into .png and its some really large image thats 10462x39 pixels in size

[sly basalt]

wait this is just the same image (I screenshotted it from RGN's oldroot video)

[sly basalt]

I tried solving s, i/t, w, d/e by brute forcing i/t and d/e into a caesar cipher and I got this:

"Yock" means a slang for joke/laugh

[sly saffron]

can you send here and I download the new image you got?

[sly basalt]

So the misspelling of prophets on "False Prophits will deceive you." is a joke.

[sly basalt]

here

[sly saffron]

eh? oh

this leads to nothing

[sly basalt]

This is what found.png looks like on the file explorer of my phone

[sly saffron]

send it

[sly basalt]

Im gonna try to fix this tomorrow if I have time.

[sly saffron]

kk

[frozen mortar]

I need assistance with a clue. I need someone to try to find the font used in one image.

[sly basalt]

Ok I finally got to use my computer and I found out that found.png is just the image version of found.txt. It contains all the text on the txt file, just squished to a really tiny image.

Also I found this on the hidden truth is.txt

[sly basalt]

This looks like some programming code. Im not a programmer so I dont know what this does.

[frozen mortar]

It’s an XMP file.

In other words, it’s just the meta data for the image. Used by programs like Adobe.
This particular file was created in 2014 using Adobe Fireworks CS6. At 19:00 hours, 25 minutes, 32 seconds Zulu. Or UTC. AKA, 7:25 PM.
It was last modified on that day at 8:42:08 Zulu.

[frozen mortar]

That top part looks to have been mojibaked when converted.

[sly basalt]

I heard from RGN's video on another ARG that decoding mojibake is difficult

[sly basalt]

maybe something is significant with that day

[frozen mortar]

Based on what I can see, XMP looks to be web based. Just on its similarity to XML and HTML.

[frozen mortar]

Can you send the file? I should be able to decode it.

I have some softwares that should allow me to read the text in its natural form.

[frozen mortar]

Probably not. Unless they changed their computer's settings, it would have been the current clock setting just in Universal Coordinated Time, AKA Zulu.

[frozen mortar]

Let me see if I can decode it.

[frozen mortar]

That file is blank.

[sly basalt]

oh I thought that file was the same I had in my computer. Im sending it tomorrow I gotta go sleep.

[frozen mortar]

Technically that depends on whether it was Mojibaked on purpose, or accident. Accidental ones should in theory just require you to switch what you're viewing it with.

[frozen mortar]

Looks like PNG internals.

[sly basalt]

Here it is

[frozen mortar]

Yeah, I was able to read the file correctly. But, there doesn't seem to be anything here.

This is the Metadata section. This is in a hex editor.

[sly basalt]

So the hidden truth is.png seems to be truly a dead end. I thought its going to lead somewhere.

[frozen mortar]

Any other files you want me to check?

Here's it decoded into Hex. I tried to copy it as text, but it said no.

[quasi jacinth]

i tried so many things with this damn image

but i found literally nothing

wait i cant even send an image here

ahh

[sly saffron]

Yes you can. You just have to chat a bit more

[quasi jacinth]

https://imgur.com/a/aJnMMer

[sly saffron]

Ok so we can all agree that this image has nothing else to be found

[quasi jacinth]

but also

one thing

oldroots ytb channel description is

Deep into that darkness peering, eyes long I stood there wondering, fearing,
Doubting, dreaming blocked dreams no mortal ever by dared to dream before;
But the silence darkness was unbroken, and the darkness gave no token,
And the only word there spoken but was the whispered word, Lenore!' This I whispered, the and an echo murmured mind back the word can, Lenore!'
Merely see this and nothing more.

and there are some words that are different than from the original poe poem

[sly saffron]

Like?

[quasi jacinth]

check the imgur link above

also, found on zedwork

[sly saffron]

false prophets will deceive you.

[quasi jacinth]

im pretty sure its not

this room was right next to the bartman51s (aka oldroots) nether tunnel

also it was well hidden and preserved because there is an area protection where only few players (zriends) can mine

i believe that in 2014 there was no area protection in that area where the room is

also i came to a pretty interesting conclusion that oldroot originally started as an another silly thing by bartman on zedwork

the first known oldroot image was uploaded on the 11th of july 2014

[quasi jacinth]

most of the files in zed files have dates before the first picture

[quasi jacinth]

idea i got but lead to nothing

[quasi jacinth]

the title of the message matches with the layout of keyboard

but not the parenthesis

no idea if this means anything

[sly basalt]

ah I got an idea. Run the image through zsteg.

[frozen mortar]

Could it possible be aihgefkcjdb?

[sly basalt]

I got that too but never said it cuz I dont know what its significance

[sly basalt]

this is what I got from opening this file on a free photo forensics website. These pixels seems to be morse code.

[sly saffron]

And what does it spell out?

[astral zenith]

• --- --- .-. ..- ..-. --

[astral zenith]

TOORUFM

[sly saffron]

ceasar shift

[astral zenith]

wait

no

reverse it you get MFUROOT

stg if this is the viginiere or whatever

[frozen mortar]

It says Oldroot.

You just translated it backwards. Root in Morse code is a palindrome. (Meaning the letters themselves don’t care which direction you translate in)

[astral zenith]

ahhh

[solemn flax]

Everything with this arg seems intentional, so could that be something?

[frozen mortar]

Nope, the screenshot I was looking at cut it off.

I just double checked the full and it has it correct.

Iirc this is just the signature.

[sly basalt]

I thought I was getting somewhere with the hidden morse code

[frozen mortar]

Yeah. I thought so too, but when you said Root, I had a realization.

There are quite a few letters in Morse code that are palindromes. R, O, T, S, E, X, M, K, H, I, P, and 0.

Which is a little annoying in ARGs lol.

[frozen mortar]

I have a lead, but I need some help with it. I found what’s probably a link, but it’s hard to decipher so I have a plan. It’s typed. If someone can find which font was used, the letters can be deciphered by comparing.

This one.

[sly basalt]

the imgur link doesnt work. It just sends me to imgur homepage.

[frozen mortar]

I meant, I’d like to try to find the font used so we can decipher the link. Because I don’t think the current interpretation is correct.

[proud jolt]

I had no idea the OldRoot ARG investigation was still ongoing

[sly basalt]

can you give me the original image you got it from?

[frozen mortar]

I don’t have it. Just the one sent here.

[sly basalt]

heres what I made of this image. I assume its ardpb.

[frozen mortar]

The second letter seems to be an X.

[sly basalt]

AzDPb is also possible

[frozen mortar]

Please stop pinging me.

[sly basalt]

Okay fine

That link doesnt work and Internet Archive just shows random crap

And then I found this. I guess this is most likely unrelated to oldroot but its the only Minecraft related thing I found from the tons of archives of that same link

[quasi jacinth]

its aven

[frozen mortar]

Ah. Raven. That makes sense.

[proud jolt]

What are the unsolved parts exactly? How many things are still unknown?

[verbal agate]

so y'all know that one image of the poem "the Raven" with the word Raven overlaid on it, right? so there's the errors of "the truth is hidden" in the "Rave" part, but has anyone ever thought to look through the section in the "N" for errors?

[sly basalt]

I could do look for errors but I need to review for final exams

Anyway here's the N part of The Truth is Hidden "RAVEN"

[frozen mortar]

Can someone do me a favor and list all of the errors in the order they appear in the letters? Then a separate one of the order they appear in the actual poem.

I’m an author, so I’d like to help.

[woven elm]

wow new oldroot lore?

[light sedge]

i cant send the image

but in the top right corner the word is supposed to say "stillness", but that is clearly a k in there

"kne" sounds like darkness

[woven elm]

how does the raven made sense?

[light sedge]

someone solved that image

#844630176218611712 message if ur in the alex bale server

[woven elm]

wait the raven the book? by Mr. Allan Poe?

[quasi jacinth]

in the n there is "darkness" instead of stilness

i think its darkness

no other word would prolly make sense

[light sedge]

yea

[quasi jacinth]

would lead to
"the truth is darkness hidden"

does that help us at anything

not really

also there is a chance that some pictures doesnt lead to anything and are just to give a hint

[quasi jacinth]

i dont really think that there is anything hidden in this image

[light sedge]

well the truth is hidden

[quasi jacinth]

i tried everything that i could. lsb stenography and every other think that shows hidden stuff, loading the image to audacity and viewing the spectrogram of it and also autostereograms. i found literally nothing

spectrogram of it

means nothing

[woven elm]

its nothing then black box then nothing yeah its nothing

[sly basalt]

the black box might be a bar code

[frozen mortar]

I’ll work on it tomorrow. It does look like one. I’m an old cashier, I’ve spent many hours staring at them lol.

[woven elm]

no i think its morse code

[frozen mortar]

It can't be.

[woven elm]

have you tried morse code?

[frozen mortar]

No, but I know Morse Code and the lines are far too uneven.'

[woven elm]

i am talling you its morse code is got to be

[frozen mortar]

It physically can't be.

[woven elm]

i am joking

i am not that dumb

[verbal agate]

So I extrapolated the words and did two things: ordering them in letter order of RAVEN, and row order of the poem (including the hypothetical darkness). here's what i got:

horizontal: The truth is hidden darkness.
vertical: Darkness the hidden truth is.

I feel like this makes sense, given all the previous images had to be brightened to find the answer in. Perhaps there's some specific image that needs to be brightened

like, brighten the images, change the colors, invert the colors, something. whatever it is, it might be in the dark spots

thoughts?

[sly basalt]

Im gonna do try messing with the other clues but unfortunately my wifi is broken right now. I cant spend my cellular data in my PC and also I have to review for my exams.

[sly basalt]

Okay the wifi is fixed now but I still have to review for the final exams.

[quasi jacinth]

i feel like there could be something hidden in the pictures before the raven one

but i have no idea where

maybe the original investigators could have missed something

[verbal agate]

Here's my notes on trying to figure out the deal with the RAVEN image

[quasi jacinth]

i feel like there is a chance that there could be more sublinks to the oldroot tumblr blog

for example

https://oldrootblog.tumblr.com/WwkKh9x this is the known one

so that got me thinking that there could be more

[frozen mortar]

That’s actually a great thought.

[sly basalt]

Okay Im checking it out later. Whats been discovered there so far?

[quaint hill]

Guys