OldRoot

[prisma fox]

There are a few ways we could approach this. For now, though, I would recommend doing the bruteforce described above

I would do it myself, but I am not sure if I have the time

[tulip birch]

I wrote a bruteforce program, tomorrow I'll try it out

The way you check a link is if it redirects you to the homepage of imgur or it sends you to the image (the valid link we're searching for).

Provided that the link is in format only letters, for example, https://imgur.com/IESUPmB and the numbers in the sequences mean some actual order. (0 is position 1. and so on, 5. is position 6 and 7. is position 7., I still wonder why there is no 6)

[distant mirage]

The thing about an ARG that hosts all of its images on imgur is it has to be build backwards. Imgur links are randomly generated, so you won't know what the link is until you've uploaded the photo. So you would have to upload the last photo, then encode its link in an image, then upload that image, then encode its link in another image, then upload that, and so on and so forth until you get to the beginning. This doesn't help solve anything it's just interesting

[prime jay]

r3 is also lowercase (under the shadow

[frank jolt]

This is so h q What the hell

where did you get this

[prime jay]

I overlayed two the images

[tulip birch]

No valid links found by the program. And yes, indeed, there is B2 (not B7) and possibly, r3 (I'm not so sure abot the r wether if it is an I)

And it was my bad that the number next too the E is 7 because it kinda kills the whole point

[distant mirage]

try it with 1

[tulip birch]

No, mabye that's not the way we solve it

[prime jay]

I went to one of those find the font sites

Its MV Boli Regular

[pine flint]

maybe it's a bitly link?

like it might be a link but not to imgur

[brazen perch]

It seems we seem to be getting somewhere with OldRoot

[distant mirage]

They said oldroot would never be solved? They said tominecon would never be solved.

[brazen perch]

tominecon was easy to solve and now rgn gave us stuff to brainstorm to solve Oldroot.

[nocturne trout]

tominecon was not easy to solve. It literally took several years until someone used a reused leaked password from a early Mojang leak

[brazen perch]

True I forgot about that.

I even watched rgn's videos on that

[tulip birch]

Another question: is the array of numbers 1 9 8 7 5 6 12 3 11 4 2 used somewhere yet?

[prime jay]

You know i been thinking of this for a while that maybe the reason there's a lowercase letter m and r
is that this was the original way to get to
https://imgur.com/OSdGDmP

Since this image that lead to OSdGDmP https://imgur.com/image-from-deciphered-new-message-qY441oo Dates far off from OSdGDmP and most other images

[brazen perch]

Looks like we got some new clues for Oldroot

[prisma fox]

tominecon is difficult in a different way

[nocturne trout]

Is there a flowchart for old root that shows what image leads to what and what images are dead ends/unsolved leads?

[prime jay]

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1MTptGGsWdBNw5I3STFooaz7R-HRDaszc_e48gO6voe8/edit?usp=sharing

[fading swift]

You guys I don't know if this is new but when I was watching rgn's old root video at 7:50 I see the words lock down, or look down

[nocturne trout]

Probably worth checking this to see if it's already documented

[prime jay]

I'm quite not sure what you're talking about.

[nocturne trout]

Responding to Fatal

[prime jay]

There is one thing missing on the research it is https://imgur.com/PXlkZz0

[nocturne trout]

Can you add it?

[prime jay]

Same time as death certificate

No

[nocturne trout]

Are the slides not editable anymore?

[prime jay]

Yes

[prime jay]

What are your thoughts on this anyway

[nocturne trout]

Since I never followed oldroot, I don't have a good opinion on it

[prime jay]

It pretty much the shadow of the past image https://www.google.com/url?q=https://oldrootblog.tumblr.com/WwkKh9x&sa=D&source=editors&ust=1726355035352533&usg=AOvVaw2s3LgTeL1VyeopUCL9dTUV was the original way to get to https://imgur.com/OSdGDmP since https://imgur.com/image-from-deciphered-new-message-qY441oo was made to early

[nocturne trout]

Has anyone backed up ALL of the images found with Oldroot just in case imgur starts deleting?

[unreal stream]

I solved the mystery text 3 years ago using bitmap extraction.

If you wanna know more about my findings you should read my reddit post from 3 years ago.

Here's the imgur if you want an overview of the findings without all the bla.

[prisma fox]

I will check this out

this would be the first new progression in the puzzle since my video, I'm pretty sure

[distant mirage]

Very,
Very,
Interesting

"False Prophets" is spelled correctly here

Interesting that the first Morse code says "SDROOT." Why "SDROOT" and not "OLDROOT"?

[wise path]

Is that a bible reference no way

[unreal stream]

More importantly what does HBG mean?

[wise path]

Where

[distant mirage]

in the water in the above image

[wise path]

Are you sure it's not ARG?

[distant mirage]

it could be an R instead of a B

but it's definitely not an A

[wise path]

Idk

[nocturne trout]

Looks like an HRG

[wise path]

Kinda

Maybe it's really obscured

What if it says
"False prophets ARG"?

Or smth

Maybe it's a new one, or it's the official name for this one?
Since we've all been naming it after the author of it.

[nocturne trout]

I don't think the creator would ever self refer to its series as an ARG due to immersion issues

[wise path]

What if its referring to smth else outside of the series?

[nocturne trout]

possibly

or it's another hint

[prime jay]

Could this be HBG?

[wise path]

Where's this from

[prime jay]

The 20th slide https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1MTptGGsWdBNw5I3STFooaz7R-HRDaszc_e48gO6voe8/edit?usp=sharing

[carmine hound]

It kinda looks like WHG

[worn tendon]

Ten minutes after we solve it the creator shows up and says one thing: OH MY GOD WHAT?! $!?# IT

Then he leaves and we are all left to wonder

And then all hell breaks loose in the OldRoot community.

[nocturne trout]

Nah he'd join and say, "Check out my spongebob theories" then leave

[worn tendon]

Check out this cool new Minecraft skin I made. It's Spongebob, in theory.

[unreal stream]

"The OldRoot community" died 10 years ago.

[prime jay]

People are just going around in circles over and over again discussing the same topics like their new.

[nocturne trout]

Yeah cause the documentation stinks

Btw I saw the mindmap for this. It needs a redo

[prime jay]

True

The images i posted are my attempts at proving hidden text in the death certificate and the blue image i believe there is a hidden text in there but i do not care for proving it anymore nobody will care.

[slender scaffold]

Death certificate?

[prime jay]

Why am i here? Just to suffer? I talk to a brick wall and it doesn't talk back?

You know this reminds me of one time they locked me in a room, a rubber room filled with rats and the rats made me crazy. The crazy i was once they locked the room with rats the rats were crazy.

[nocturne trout]

I heard your pleads

[nocturne trout]

Looking much better

You are doing a great service

[prime jay]

It's nice to know that it wasn't for nothing.

[nocturne trout]

What does the colors mean?

[prime jay]

yellow is basically stuff that i have no proof of.
But I'm pretty sure is.

Unsolved is the word i was looking for

Blue red pink are the hints alex bale made

90% of the image were hints that we had to work for

Black is the base arg alex bale made

Grey Line is Alex bale giving us the next image but he had to work to get it

The grey line means one of the two things either alex bale though base arg puzzle before was too hard or he realized it couldn't be solved

[nocturne trout]

Why do colors mean several things

[prime jay]

Which one

I might have explained it poorly

[nocturne trout]

Blue red pink and gray

[prime jay]

i did that so people wouldn't get confused

There hints to their own image

Like hints to
One image is red
And the hints to others are blue

The grey one is not a hint

Yeah i might change that

[prime jay]

Hopefully this helps

Grey is there because unlike all the other images this one just gives you the next image instead of a hint

I found some posts on Reddit which show the cipher to the shadows of the past image some are far fetched some are identical copys

https://www.reddit.com/r/ciphers/s/VY29EZNZpB

https://www.reddit.com/r/codes/s/EOAQO4xhlf

[nocturne trout]

What software are you using for this?

[sacred aurora]

hey im back into args and i want to help solve oldroot

is there any new progress?

[sacred aurora]

https://imgur.com/new-image-from-oldroot-6rUi8JR

was this found?

nvm

[sacred aurora]

chat i might find something in this image

i translate "/watch" for now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwMPZTexRCM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC13zkNKuLw

im solving another 1 rn

[prime jay]

Canva for the timeline and pixlr editor for all the other images

[sacred aurora]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XipQ3iAS6ho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26DU8ir0pR8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7_tcDKaUds

this is the last video

then it leads to a video named "the rest"

but its public

i dont think this helps

[sacred aurora]

yo in the 2nd image u can see a red line in the left maybe that's somethig

[sacred aurora]

@prisma fox (sorry if I disturb you with this ping) in 35:38 on ur video on oldroot u say about how words don't have spaces maybe that's because they're keys to vigneres??

[prime jay]

I think theres text is hidden in the image

[distant mirage]

I don't think so actually. It was all in our heads

[prime jay]

Well look at this one i used something like saturation extract i don't remember but the static that is present in the text we do see in the image is in other and places where i think the text is

I see where you come from but this takes up an 8th of the image

The stuff in the death certificate are probably just a figment of my imagination but they might not all be

I don't think this is something you're supposed to edit to find

[prisma fox]

I wonder if some error level analysis could be useful

you can look at jpg compression to try and get a sense of if things have been edited. could be interesting

[rotund marsh]

someone pin this, it's actually a pretty useful visualization of where we're at!

...unfortunately it leads me to the disappointment that we indeed pretty much have only geett7v holding us up here main arg wise

with only a few hint images and a couple other things to work with

[prime jay]

I could have been more pacific when i said Edgar allan poe it was poes date of death alex hinted he's the author were looking for his unfinished story

The problem is the cipher

I doubt its three keys i always have after trying so many different combinations

i missed an image

[prime jay]

Revised version.

[worn tendon]

Consider: the clues lead to a number to shift by, but we have to cube that.

Given the format of the actual text I think it's gonna be an imgur album.

[worn tendon]

What's the text of the Reddit DM leading to "vigenere^3"?

[prime jay]

Someone asked for a clue

[worn tendon]

Why is that the title

[late carbon]

@untold palm

[sacred aurora]

it looks like it says NBG

actually

it looks like NRG

or HRG

[wise path]

Henry stickmin reference

[prime jay]

There is an Edgar Allan Poe story called The Masque Of red death in a riddle in zedworks it is referenced

[tulip birch]

A new year, a new hope for a breakthrough

[modern canyon]

Can you guys help me investigate my case please

[nocturne trout]

With oldroot?

[modern canyon]

"ryan3828"

[nocturne trout]

This is for oldroot discussion

[brazen perch]

It seems old root is still going

[fringe marten]

e

[rose perch]

Wow, it's still active no way

[fringe marten]

a

[rose perch]

ea

[fringe marten]

Sports

[rose perch]

make a post with ur case

[nocturne trout]

https://discord.com/channels/773771861812183080/1324441858264535252
They already did, but the channel has already rebranded

[nocturne trout]

Barely. There's not a lot going on except for what mrfooj48 is doing

[rose perch]

ah

[mellow bobcat]

this work in here is all pretty impressive ngl, but it seems (in my eyes) that we are not thinking outside the box, that there is more in the Poems, in the Past or even in popular Creepypasta stories (Yes i consider Creepypasta in this too) such as a story about something called 'Faceless', and no it's NOT Slenderman

and yes i am still coming back to old root every once in a while to just shut down and hyper focus

[mellow bobcat]

think again shimmer- i still got my writing on oldroot in an old chat >:3

(i should send the writings i have of it in here now that i think about it)

!!!!These Texts are from January 2024 btw!!!!

I have some of my own thoughts on it and some weird connections that i made, they could be right but they could also be wrong, i don't know. Also, i am not sure how to phrase some things so please don't come at me for my weird wording
Regarding Oldroot, there have been many Puzzle pieces shared online and are still up, many shared clues and other connecting dots, overlooking other aspects in the whole thing, and then at it's peak (i think) it just got dropped.

The puzzle still unsolved and no one daring to take a step forward (which upsets me a little)
Looking at certain time stamps in RGN's video i saw some things, then going over the Poems "The Raven" and "Lenore" it kind of made sense and the connections seemed obvious
but not everyone is thinking the same way, so those clues and dots were completely out of focus
The Sentence: "If you wish to know the future, you must know the Past" Which is an obvious sign, in my head though i have phrased it like this:

"If you want to move past the logical definments of the world and know the future, you have to find your past and dig into the meaning of past events"

Which sounds complicated at first, in simple words it is just:"The truth of the Future, is hidden in the Past"
In RGN's Video about Oldroot at Time stamp: 13 minutes 17 seconds the phrase "You must learn the Past before the Future" is written, which is what i already said. But the Key word Lenore is what got my spiraling and thinking

When looking back there have been several times where the words:'The Raven is Watching' have been seen, then looking at the Poem “The Raven“ by Edgar Allan Poe we see the name Lenore coming up several Times, as for the Poem “Lenore“ by Edgar Allan Poe, it speaks of Death of a young Woman name Lenore.

Also the word "Nevermore" comes forth in both Poems
When looking at the Time Stamp: 12:49 minutes in RGN's video, on the image it says:'Whom the Angels name?' this could be referring To Lenore, then at time stamp: 13:46 minutes in the video, the text on the screen reads:“Watching from the shadows, waiting. With such name as 'Nevermore.'“ which is hinting back to the Poem:“The Raven“, but in both Poems, they speak of Lenore and Death...
In hindsight, it is all very confusing, but hear me out, Reading the poems, we can make a connection, with the few words, but mainly with the key words:'Watching', 'Shadows' and 'Waiting', a Ghost, a spirit, lurking and waiting within the Darkness, waiting for something and a Raven being the messenger and maybe the False Prophet that was being talked about

“Shadows of the past“
“Every Action has an Equal and Opposite Reaction“

Two phrases that make sense on their own, but cannot be brought into context with the mystery, or maybe they can?

Looking back on the Poems, We can easily insert the two phrases to their corresponding poem, “Shadows of the Past“ can be brought in connection with “The Raven“ after the death of Lenore, while “Every Action has an Equal and Opposite Reaction“ Can be brought in context with the poem “Lenore“ as her death was just so upsetting, and the one who blessed her with death was someone she was supposed to marry.
There have been many images been shared to the internet, yet the project itself has been forgotten. While on the forums of Reddit and Twitter it'll be still discussed in the deep shadows, The truth has yet to come forth.

The skin in most Pictures, shows us a steve skin with no face and dark shadows on his arms and even under his Head, linking the skin to an Image that shows a family of 4/5, while the other faces are blurred, there is only one person who's face was not blurred, as they had no Face.

'If you wish to know the future, you must know the Past' is a reoccurring phrase within the mystery, is makes sense on it's own yet can also be linked with the Death Certificate and Poems, even the Bible and the Painting.
This is all i have so far on it, but if i found more dots and links i will gladly share them! But for now this is all i have and i am still searching for connections regarding the Faceless figure in the whole thing

Lenore is a key word that lead to a Dead End, but Lenore is a Key word that connects the Poem "The Raven" and "Lenore" in the aspect of:"Dying of someones hands who was considered a love, jealous of Pride and used for wealth, The Spirit haunting the halls so ever long, never more has she been seen. Time passes and her name forgotten, her face a Blur and unrecognizable"

I have to much Patience and time for this honestly, I write and draw a lot so this is just a Supernatural and Creative way of Writing things

Finding new clues in Oldroot could be difficult, not because it's complicated and Complex, no, because some things could be referring to older Runes or Symbolic things of the past, maybe a demonic script or so!

Maybe it has some mind play to it that it'll trick you to think only one course when there are thousand other methods of looking at the entire mystery

I'm doing Copy and Paste (SLOWLY)

PURGE YOURSELF OF YOUR SINS: "Confess your sinning" --> Lenore: The person who has killed Lenore OR the one in sorrow who is searching for forgiveness of Lenore

PURGEYOURSELF OF YOUR DESIRES: "Cleanse yourself of Desires" --> Asking about Lenore, if he will see her again, if he can hold her once more

PURGE YOURSELF OF YOUR FLESH: "Let everything go" --> Giving into the False Prophet, letting go of Life and lying on the floor, soul leaving the body of the person in order to regain life and break his loneliness
False Prophet: The Raven

The raven is watching; Watching from the Shadows; The raven is always in sight and seeing the sins being committed and how one cannot let go without help.

Nevermore the name of the Raven, The Raven is seen as the False Prophet in the Poem
The raven is hidden under the shadows and sees everything, hence the reoccurring sentence:'The raven is Watching'
The Key word Given: Lenore

Lenore is coming forth in both The raven and Lenore

Lenore in the Raven, is being grieved after, as someone cannot let go and wishing to have her back

Lenore in the poem Lenore, had died, was blessed by her fiance to die, resulting in the Reasoning coming forth, Jealousy of her pride and using her for Wealth.. A sin again, Jealousy

PigPen Cipher:

It's Easier than you think
(Kind of true)

This is a dead end as it has no direct Connection with the mystery, yet it is Easier, looking in depth we just need to explore every aspect given, but also think outside the Box!

In conclusion: I think Oldroot was just Mocking us for missing the obvious
or, it could be: It's easier to fall for a False Prophet and lose your soul to Darkness

Which in many terms and aspects has some what of an obvious thing and then again not, falling for a prophet who is false can be easy or falling down a rabbit hole of darkness because of the Loneliness and grief
both are valid points

(Please don't come at me- i just wanna let my text be somewhere other than some DM's)

Become void of your Material Senses
Open your Minds Eye

Becoming Senseless of your Senses
Open your Eyes to the Reality

Let go of your Grief and Flesh
Open your Third Eye to a new path
i might make it look more Complicated idk
Becoming Void of your Material Senses = Falling into a deep Hole of Loneliness and Sadness, stuck in this one Specific thing

Open your Minds Eye = Could Imply to realize that you've fallen into a trap of a False Prophet
Back to the Origins craft
The Worldstone Origins

Has not been further investigated, Back to the Origins could imply to go back to the Root of the cause, like the poems or the start of the Investigation points!
There are many things understood behind it honestly

"In my Investigations I have come across many things that I have yet to Explain. In order to understand the 'truth to' the mystery I first have to 'understand the past'(?)"

It's just a bold assumption of words to the piece of text, but it can be connected then to the Sentence:'If you wish to know the future, you must know the Past' in that sense and aspect...I'll keep going further on this text when i have further wording that could be in connection to that..
"There is something Wrong with him"

The Death Certificate, it has falsification on top of 'Paralysis Agitans', false information as the cause of death could've been the Madness before the chaos

"Before the Madness"

Death or a brutal force Murder...

"Become void"
"become Faceless"

"An Author Lies Dead"
"An Author Unknown"
"Remaining Unread"
"Remaining Untold"

very confusing, but maybe in the family Wester was an Author...or...Allen, leads back to Edgar Allen Poe

Lowkey just noticed: If you wish to know the future, you must know the past
The Key word, Lenore, the poem Lenore is the Past of The Raven

and The Raven is the future of what's to happen if you go after a False Prophet, the Raven Nevermore is a false prophet, having deceived the person in the Raven to Purge himself of his Sins, desire and in the end even his Flesh, letting go of life all together

(there was also an image i had in that DM but i'll send it at the end as i need to redo it)

Conversation between Wester and a Mysterious voice --> The Man and the Raven (The Raven by Edgar Allen Poe)

False hope for the Future, the way it's interpreted it makes no sense for a normal person, hence this being a dead End, further inspection, it could be that Wester had Voices in his head, a voice who was telling about Oldroots mystery and that this is a key to Madness and the Future.
Voices and Madness, the madness can be interpreted as Schizophrenia, this can be deadly for the person itself as they are disconnected from reality and cannot tell the differences between Reality and Imaginary

Then the Phrases "There is Something wrong with him" and "Before the madness" make sense, something is wrong with him.... Voices and insanity -> Schizophrenia
This was before the Madness -> The Schizophrenic episodes without treatment drove him into madness and he couldn't take this anymore

((When i went ahead and put "beweechgelickhijt" into the Google Translator (with language detecting), i literally go the translation:"Movement equality"
And then when i put it as "beweechgelickheijt" it turned into 'balance of motion' that's funny i guess? XD and google seems to think it's Westfriesisch instead of Dutch?))

The Storm on the sea of Galilee was based on the passage in Luke 8:22-25, this being the struggle against a frantic storm with the boat out of control, the vessel being torn to shreds by the storm

Another painting was sketched and based on Matthew 14:22-33 in this passage Christ walks on the water, the Sea of Galilee towards his disciples in a fishing boat.
The boat was in crashing motion, "Balance of Motion" could it be when Christ decides to walk to them, as the waves don't affect him, Christ has the "Movement Equality" in a hypothetical sense spoken

((I also had something biblical in there but i will not send it as it is against the server rules to speak of Religion))

He stole my Face = Split personality or demonic Possession, stealing his Identity
The raven is watching = The false prophet and/or something we cannot see with our eyes (like a Ghost, Demon; Spiritual based)

This is a branch where i went with the Case so there is a lot of Creepypasta naming in this one!!

Hidden deep in the Roots of an Old Tree = Creepypasta
A Mystery awaits, with patterns of Three = Proxies: Toby, Masky, Hoodie
He watches from behind, Quiet and Mute = Hoodie + Slenderman
The one with No Face, whom they call 'Old Root' = Slenderman --> Og Roots of Mysteries
Let these words Foreshadow of what might be = Marble Hornets?
If you make the decision to Whitelist me
'TRAPPED IN A PRISON OF WOOD'

Deep in the Roots of an old Tree = Tales of Creepypasta
Where a Sacrifice made, in patterns of Three = Souls/Innocent Lives
Let these words Foreshadow of what is to be = Futuristic Events
If you make the decision to White list me
'If I was a RAVEN' = Zalgo an All Seeing Eye of the Slender-forest
'Why is a Jpg Animated?' --> Why is this even Possible? How can this exist?

and that's all the text i had for this case in an old DM

i'll clean up a screenshot now and send it in here after!

idk what i was trying to cook up in this screenshot

this is all i have on oldroot so far

lol

[mellow bobcat]

dang bro- imma look into that ngl, i'm bored

[mellow bobcat]

quick google search shows that Edgar Allan Poe has an Unfinished manuscript called 'the Light-house'

[prime jay]

Yeah but the problem is it doesn't work.

Although being the best answer

[mellow bobcat]

I'm reading this unfinished manuscript rn

maybe i'll find some clues

idk

Wikipedia does say in the Analysis of the unfinished manuscript that it was similar to Franz Kafka's 'The Burrow', a short story Franz never finished and Franz Kafka has 3 unfinished Novels-

[prime jay]

Ive heard of it just from the last few hints that oldroot gave im pretty sure Edgar Allan Poe is the author

Although there's another story by poe that seems to have connections to oldroot its called "the mask of red death"

[mellow bobcat]

that's were we are again!

"False Prophets will Deceive you"

it could be a lead towards the wrong direction ya know

[rose perch]

https://youtu.be/BggrpKfqh1c?si=yCKe6oPLu1BPargv

[fringe marten]

wot dat

[wise path]

One might even say you are being deceived

[rose perch]

a meme

[bronze fulcrum]

How much has been added since retro’s video can someone summarize?

[sacred aurora]

holy yap (sorry)

but i have a theory

in rgn's video

theres text that dont have spaces between them

maybe they are keys to ciphers??

[prime jay]

The stuff about the whitelisting and the worlds stone origin may been from a false prophet i believe

[rose perch]

That's what I was thinking too

[fringe marten]

False prophets preventing the truth from breaking out?

That would be interesting

[mellow bobcat]

actually- that's a good point

[prime jay]

In The poem the raven the word raven is said ten times excluding the title the word raven in this Image is said ten times do you think it could be something?

[prime jay]

[prime jay]

Ugh well i was able to find some of the font in this image if there is a need I'll get them.

[sacred aurora]

yo what if

like the letters in this

are like in a order

like words

like 1 2 3

yknow

1 E E P X

2 B S T

3 r U W

4 P V

5 m N T

and u can see

only on 4

there's only 2 letters

I don't think that means anything

and 1 is the only one with 4 numbers

[sacred aurora]

(someone pls tell me this may actually be a good theory)

[sacred aurora]

and also in the water it says HRG if this helps

and in this image there's no I0 there's r3 under the ghost thingy

[sacred aurora]

and I found out

that Alex Bale

told us

oldroot can be solved

all the hints are there

but he won't give more

[marble cape]

Tbh is there a google drive that literally just has all of the original images and clues (ones that don’t lead to anything else) and NO context. The worst issue for me is that I don’t know what to do because we already have a ton of info. But it would probably be hard to do by scratch again because some links are almost definitely expired.

Like it’s been so long that in order to continue it, I feel like the only way would to be to completely try to solve it again from scratch.

Cause I doubt anyone from the original ARG is still here, cares enough, or is still actively trying to solve it without any breaks.

and sometimes having too much info given at once can make you not be able to do anything at all. That’s why teaching is done in steps.

[prime jay]

Hey i can confirm the W is capital

If you are good at ciphers i believe you can solve it

[prime jay]

Looking back at the upload dates i came to the conclusion that the letters once decrypted will say IMGURCOMOSdGDmP and to the already found image OSdGDmP

I want to know how he thinks the more we know the better conclusion we can make.

The raven is said 10 times in the poem excluding the title and in the image its said ten times also

[astral zenith]

i was sent this

interesting its in different fonts

[prime jay]

The raven under m5 i cannot find its font it just odd for it looks like its using multiple fonts

[astral zenith]

maybe all of them combined?

@prime jay it looks like splash font to me

icl

[sacred aurora]

I like how we aren't doing like any decoding

or sum

and we just guessing

😭

[astral zenith]

well yeah

theres something in this image

anyone tried a youtube url?

with the letters

[sacred aurora]

hmm

sounds like and idea

I FOUND THE FOTN

[slender scaffold]

41 united states dollars?

[sacred aurora]

(crazy price)

[astral zenith]

WHAT

[astral zenith]

WHAT

[sacred aurora]

it's rage italic

[astral zenith]

oh thats absolutely the font

[astral zenith]

@prime jay

[sacred aurora]

wait

was there sun with Lorem Ipsum

or sum

nvm

forget it

yep it's rage italic

we found it!!

hurray!!

[astral zenith]

nice

ok thats all

[sacred aurora]

I honestly don't think that helped

like finding out the font

we'll see

[astral zenith]

E1V4U3T5P1W3B2S2N5T2m5P4E1I3

[sacred aurora]

??

[astral zenith]

im reading the letters off the image

hmmm

[sacred aurora]

what kind of gift card code is this😂

[astral zenith]

i have an idea

LMAO

[sacred aurora]

it's not I3 btw

it's r3

[astral zenith]

what is it

ahh

ty

[sacred aurora]

.

and maybe like

arrange this numbers

letters*

by alphabet

I'ma do it rq

[astral zenith]

E1E1P1B2S2T2r3W3P4V4N5m5T5

thats in order

hmm

[sacred aurora]

lol i was just Abt to correct j

u*

[astral zenith]

that has to be a hidden youtube url

hollup

https://youtu.be/E1V4U3T5P1W3B2S2=?si=N5T2m5P4E1r3

ignore that

E1V4U3T5P1W3B2S2N5T2m5P4E1r3

E1V4U3T5P1W3B2S2N5T2m5P4E1r3

hmmm

what im thinking is

thats w different links combined

2

or 3

[sacred aurora]

I found this in a Reddit post👍

already labeled

so it's good

[astral zenith]

https://youtu.be/watch?=E1V4U3T5P1W3B2S2N5T2m5P4E1r3

[sacred aurora]

another person said the same that they think it might be linked to the poem

[astral zenith]

@sacred aurora

[sacred aurora]

wat

[astral zenith]

send me thr poem

i have an idea

[sacred aurora]

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48860/the-raven

[astral zenith]

what im thinking is

each letter corresponds with a wors

[sacred aurora]

istg "Quoth the Raven “Nevermore.”" is giving me chills down my spine

[astral zenith]

word

[sacred aurora]

yeah I thought Abt thst

[astral zenith]

but it corresponds with the capital

[sacred aurora]

mhm

like maybe

or hmm

like there's 2 E1

[astral zenith]

can u send the picture of the full poem? im on mobile so like

oh wait

u r 2

[sacred aurora]

??😭

i can send the poem if u want?

[astral zenith]

please

[sacred aurora]

wait

[astral zenith]

EEVVVVUUUTTTTTPwwwBBSSNNNNNrrrTTmmmmmX

[sacred aurora]

cooked

gg bro

all I can do bro

just open it on the site

[astral zenith]

lmfao

HAS ANYONE THOUGHT OF GRID COORDINATES

[sacred aurora]

what's that

[astral zenith]

lmaoo

[sacred aurora]

this guy did

oohh

now I see grid coordinates meaning

and like

bow we could use it?

Alex Bale pmo

[astral zenith]

interesting

most likely a coincidence

there is 30 characters

[astral zenith]

💔💔💔🥀🥀🥀

[astral zenith]

RAVEN

like in a 5x5 grid

no wait

[sacred aurora]

?

[astral zenith]

ughhh

bro ts pmo 💔💔🥀🥀

[sacred aurora]

I'm trying all cyphers

[astral zenith]

ive tried all cyphers

[sacred aurora]

this guy said

[astral zenith]

i just looked through 260

XOR gives you the letter P

base 58 does not work at all

letter positions and grid coordinates makes sense

[sacred aurora]

pushing p🙏

[astral zenith]

it isnt a keyboard shift

[astral zenith]

pushing my limits*

it is not hexadecimal since it has x and t

and r*

it isnt ROT or caesar

it isnt ascii

wait

ok out of that list i want you to try

ASCII

Grid coordinates

leet 1337

[sacred aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/headache-my-head-hurts-headache-cat-gif-14622281057500278312

[astral zenith]

letter positions

[sacred aurora]

leet caca

didn't give anyhting

[astral zenith]

homophonic

forsyth edwards notation (what the hell is this)

[sacred aurora]

1 letter away for being canceled

from*

[astral zenith]

circular bit shift

[astral zenith]

hydrophobic

[sacred aurora]

who comes up w this names bro

pmo

[astral zenith]

ong

[sacred aurora]

leet 1337

[astral zenith]

pushing 30 still tryna solve ts 💔💔💔

[sacred aurora]

🙏

[astral zenith]

i meant that as a joke lmfao

[sacred aurora]

how old r u bro

🙏

[astral zenith]

30 months

NO IM NOT 30 MONTHS OLD

💔💔💔

[sacred aurora]

XDD

[astral zenith]

pushing 30 cause i was doing ts this 15 years before i was born 💔💔💔

[sacred aurora]

my kids gonna be trying to solve oldroot istg🙏

[astral zenith]

get on with decrypting

[sacred aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/shia-labeouf-clapping-theatre-gif-15313749163340250467

[astral zenith]

what do they mean "this is a important code"??????

average redditor ong

52553631746367531213

me when i pull codes out of no where

[sacred aurora]

my mom's card number 🙏

[sacred aurora]

I think he meant this

[astral zenith]

ts WONT be it

pmo 💔💔💔💔

[astral zenith]

lmaooo real

[sacred aurora]

ts so buns🙏

[astral zenith]

icl this feels like all this effort for a video that says "congratualatltions"

[sacred aurora]

I think these

are going

with

like first word with E

then with P

then with X

on the peom

[astral zenith]

what

[sacred aurora]

poem

[astral zenith]

the capitals have got to mean something

they wouldnt have put capitals and lowercase in

[sacred aurora]

ye

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-gif-22694683

[astral zenith]

thats whats confusing me

[astral zenith]

me when bipolar kicks in

[sacred aurora]

me when my name's is Ye and I'm addicted to nitrous

[astral zenith]

alr back to the task

[sacred aurora]

E1 P1 X1 B3 S2 T2 r3 U3 w3 P4 V4 m5 N5 T5 E7

I wanted to send them here and have em here

cuz ion wanna scroll

[astral zenith]

ion wanma do this no mor

my brain hurt

too late at night

[sacred aurora]

@prime jay what was it bro?

istg we need like some people on this cSe

case*

like we need active searchers

like I think me and @astral zenith @prime jay would be like a group

be we like

it would be better if there were like more

like active searchers on this

[sacred aurora]

https://www.dubberly.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Tic-Tac-Toe.pdf

i have a feeling it connects to this

[sacred aurora]

.

[astral zenith]

thats a good shout but it wouldnt make sense why there would be w

m5 or r3

[sacred aurora]

nah but hear me out

y'know when

oldroot said sum Abt dolphins

and there

as that one code in the image "an author lies dead..."

that was seven letters long

but didn't lead to anything

what if

the key

maybe vignere

is "DOLPHIN"

boom

7 letters long

but I tried vignere

and it didn't work

so it's a caca theory

[astral zenith]

lmaoo

[sacred aurora]

bro I was onto something

u can't lie🙏

[prime jay]

I thought there was something in certificate but in all honesty i think it just nothing now or it just not meant to be seen

[prime jay]

Its a imgur link with no numbers

W is definitely capital id checked

but the m is 100 lowercase

r is probably lowercase idk really

[prime jay]

The fonts ITC Viner Hand Regular had it underlined in the original image but it got cut off

[sacred aurora]

r is lower case same as m

and i think now theres 2 E1's

but im not sure

[sacred aurora]

Vigenere^3

means

vigenere cubed

but

idk honestly how it could help

[astral zenith]

lmao

dolphin + raven + ?

[astral zenith]

there is 2

[sacred aurora]

and also

(I said this like 4 times)

maybe

the words that don't have spaces

in the oldroot video

are like keys to ciphers

[astral zenith]

i am not looking back through this entire arg lmfao

[prime jay]

I bet the hints in video 5

Maybe title itself means something

[prime jay]

We are going to have gta 6 before oldroot 💀

[thorny ingot]

Maybe not......

[astral zenith]

wdym

[thorny ingot]

I dont know

[prime jay]

In mathematics, "n³" (or n to the power of 3) means n multiplied by itself three times, or n cubed.

[prime jay]

I don't know if this helps but this is all I got.

[astral zenith]

we already figured that out

[amber anchor]

it says

LIGHTHOUSE

Jgmyda

[prime jay]

Any suggestions on what virgenere^3 means?

[rose perch]

It's vigenere cipher

^3 prob might mean its shifted 3 times idk

[nocturne trout]

Are we even sure the v in v^3 is viginere

[sacred aurora]

didnt oldroot himself say vigenere^3?

[nocturne trout]

Unsure

[prime jay]

he gave one last clue on the tumbler vigenere^3 I'll get an image

[prime jay]

Could it be something like vigenere?

[swift crescent]

I might have something on this to add maybe not sure

This image right here, anyone know it?

What it linked to the old root video

I know you can brighten images to see things but can you darken it to as well???

"Darkness will always answer"

Might have some context to this

[flint gyro]

What image

[flint gyro]

I could help if you give me an unsolved puzzle

[flint gyro]

I think the numbers a morbit cipher

Are there any 9 letter words that have popped up in the puzzle

That are unused

[fringe marten]

Are the letter/number combos hex?

[prime jay]

The letters like E1 ect are all capital except m5 and r3 in the source code the text there is "something wrong with him" and "before the madness" - there was a video uploaded a bit after this image was found called 5 with that there's one thing that I can't prove but Im certain that the cipher text is an imgur link leading to https://imgur.com/new-image-OSdGDmP

[fringe marten]

Did you just find this?

[prime jay]

No but the image that got people here just can't be the actual way you were supposed to get this.

The image before this was dm and that image led to this one

https://imgur.com/image-from-deciphered-new-message-qY441oo this is the image I was going to show the upload dates but I guess imgur removed that but it was July 2016 while the other is May 8 2015

[swift crescent]

I'm thinking two different pictures on this case might actually be one clue or phrase I don't know if stumble on this. I honestly didn't even know who this is or even was till that video

[swift crescent]

I believe these two pictures I recently post inject with each other.

[prime jay]

Should I attempt at making a guide map for the older part of the arg

[flint gyro]

E1 V4 W3 B2 or B7 U3 T5 P1 S2 N5 M5 T2 X1 P4 I0 or 10 E1

[prime jay]

I found the fonts for that

At least most of them

There E1 V4 U3 T5 P1 W3 B2 S2 N5 T2 P4 r3 E1 m5 X1

[flint gyro]

didnt rgn say something about like

aspect ratio and like white lines in some puzzles

are we able to investigate that

[sacred aurora]

we already have all the numbers

[sacred aurora]

.

[sacred aurora]

.

[flint gyro]

Math type sh

[umbral mauve]

GUYS

what if

Because he says “To know the future you need to understand the past” or smth

What if we need to go to the poems Edgar Allen Poe wrote

Like the raven

And everything

Like know the past like the texts

[umbral mauve]

Could that be a code of some sort?

[amber anchor]

WERE BACK

[umbral mauve]

Yes

The gradient of the colors

Where is that picture

@amber anchor you know where the picture of the gradient colors is ?

[flint gyro]

its at the end of hte rgn video

[umbral mauve]

Man I gotta look

Hold on really fast

[amber anchor]

Um.. idk... ima have to do My research

Or i can just look at rgn's google doc but idk😭

[umbral mauve]

He has a Google doc?

[umbral mauve]

Ima find it brb

[amber anchor]

I think

I gotta check rq

[umbral mauve]

Smth gotta be hiding here

I know it

Got it

[amber anchor]

Its faike

[amber anchor]

Yeah this is peak already

[umbral mauve]

GUYS

THERE ARE 7 shades

It could lead to smth

7 colors

Could mean smth like

A 7 letter imigur link

It might be a stretch

But maybe

[amber anchor]

160100 - red

[umbral mauve]

What’s the other grays

For the original

[umbral mauve]

This one

[umbral mauve]

Not this

[amber anchor]

565050 - gray 1

[umbral mauve]

Left to right?

[amber anchor]

414141 - gray 2

[umbral mauve]

Hmmm

[amber anchor]

im going from red to dark gray

[umbral mauve]

Ok

I see

[amber anchor]

343434 - gray 3

252525 - gray 4

181818 - gray 5

[umbral mauve]

So
565050-gray 1
414141-gray 2
343434-gray 3
252525- gray 4
181717- gray 5

Welp

No

Not an imigur link

[amber anchor]

09090B - VERY dark blue

[umbral mauve]

Right?

Blue?

[amber anchor]

Thats all

Yeah, for some reason its in the blue category

[umbral mauve]

Eh

Whatever

[umbral mauve]

They are all basically a XYXYXY

Pattern

We got patterns

[amber anchor]

YEAHHH TH

[umbral mauve]

🤔

[amber anchor]

Thats what i was bouta say...

[umbral mauve]

I think I’m overthinking it

But

[umbral mauve]

We have this right?

So this could mean smth

It only goes up to 5

XEPTBSrWUVPNTm

Idk

I just put them in when I saw it

Like X is one

So first

Then second

[amber anchor]

idkk but i thought'd This might be helpful but idk

[flint gyro]

there

[flint gyro]

what is this

[amber anchor]

pinned message

[umbral mauve]

EPEXBSTrUWVPTNm

Maybe like

A scramble

Or link code for YT

[flint gyro]

can you analyze the white lines on this image

[umbral mauve]

Me?

I’m not the guy to do colors haha

@amber anchor deal with colors

[flint gyro]

i mean we

[umbral mauve]

Someone find the bottom right long one

That says yellow

Hidden text

[umbral mauve]

Real

I see letters

I see

AL

AV or AU

Hmm

[flint gyro]

wheres the full image

[umbral mauve]

Idk

That’s why I’m asking

[umbral mauve]

This can’t be lost

[flint gyro]

looks like a gun

maybe how the guy dieed

[umbral mauve]

Maybe

But like A(V or U) stuff then AL

Hmmm

I can’t find it

Hmm

[umbral mauve]

I think I got the last part

It says OAOA

if you really look

AU(O or C)

(r f n)

(i g)

(X k) AL

that’s what I got

8 letters?

Maybe 7?

Then the top left

Has a 3

And that’s basically all I can make out now

We have a bunch of letters and a few numbers

Hmmm

I need the original image somehow

[umbral mauve]

This could be a game changer

We have to stay optimistic

I’m thinking

We need to find a way

To get the numbers and letters

To show more

And let the background not

[umbral mauve]

Right?

I don’t want this to not be fully solved

There is a lot we don’t know

[nocturne trout]

The issue is that the difficulty curve of this project is vertical. We are at the point where we have no idea where to proceed

[umbral mauve]

That’s the problem

Hold up

[umbral mauve]

I need the picture

I have circled

I might be able to solve it

Does anyone have the picture

Guys

I can’t find it

[umbral mauve]

Right

[umbral mauve]

I want to look at it in detail

So I can edit it

[prime jay]

It's an edited version of this https://x.com/WeAreTheAnswer_/status/688586703502741504

WeAreTheAnswer (@WeAreTheAnswer_)

@ThatPurplePlant

X · Jan 17, 2016, 5:00 AM

[umbral mauve]

@prime jay You know where this circled one is?

[umbral mauve]

I feel like

Hmm

[umbral mauve]

I’m thinking of ideas

I’m just not sure

[umbral mauve]

Idk

[umbral mauve]

I’m thinking it makes me think of a YT link

[umbral mauve]

Where is that?

[umbral mauve]

How does HRG help?

Like

Some pictures say HRG

Like in the water

And above hete

I’m thinking it could be HRG or HBG

I’m thinking because OldRoot told us to look to the past to see the future we should try to work this from the ground up

Like I feel there might be a way

Like look into the poems by Poe

Like “The raven” and stuff

Or how things could be missing?

[prime jay]

I put it through something that messed with the colors I think

[umbral mauve]

I see

[umbral mauve]

Where is that from?

[umbral mauve]

I see now

Thank you

I’m not sure tho

It says vital records

I’m thinking the left

[umbral mauve]

I can see an SU AU

Presumably

[umbral mauve]

Like maybe 7 lines

[umbral mauve]

It might say 3ure AU

Or smth

I’m not sure tho

It could be an 8

I am like 89% sure the first letter is 8

Then maybe U

R

E

AU

So like 8UREAU

It’s not a code

It spells bureau

“Bureau of official records”

It is a dead end I suppose

So I don’t think that’s a code or anything

This looks like Morse code possibly

I can’t find a way to do it

Maybe the white spaces?

[umbral mauve]

Possibly?

any ideas?

Why would C and T be capitalized?

Maybe just the C

[umbral mauve]

I mean it could be anything now

Maybe like how one picture had a hidden text/picture in it

What if the others do too

[umbral mauve]

Maybe because it says in, the hint is inside the document photo

Is this a stretch?

[umbral mauve]

So if this means IN (I’m doing a huge assumption) that could mean in the data of the picture or smth

Ima need to pull out a laptop for this

[flint gyro]

Isn't it ..- .

[umbral mauve]

Ok

Let me see

[umbral mauve]

UE?

[flint gyro]

I've seen a lot of scrambled similar 3 letter words

Hrg

[umbral mauve]

Hmm

It could be .. - .

ITE

[flint gyro]

"high resistance grounding"

[umbral mauve]

Hmm

[flint gyro]

What have we found so far

I mean with the 3 letter stuff

[umbral mauve]

Is it possible to open up the photo like see if anything is hiding in it

[flint gyro]

Like the

[umbral mauve]

Or like the metadata or smth

[flint gyro]

Aspect ratio?

[umbral mauve]

The?

Maybe

[flint gyro]

You can like

[umbral mauve]

I mean

[flint gyro]

Open the image in Google and use the console

[umbral mauve]

Yea

Or like how people used a program to make it a file or smth and finding this Hidden. (Smth) inside it

Right?

[umbral mauve]

Or maybe the aspect ratio like you said

[umbral mauve]

I don’t see anything of note rn

Really quick what does the numbers on this mean again

Im prob going in circles or back to smth

Idk

[flint gyro]

Yep

[umbral mauve]

U wanna see what it has or smth?

[umbral mauve]

I just feel that smth HAS to be able to be cracked

It just feels like we are stuck badly

[real meteor]

Seeing this channel active again was like a jumpscare

[umbral mauve]

Sorry

I wanted to see if I could help somehow

[real meteor]

I meant it positively dw

[umbral mauve]

Ok

[real meteor]

This one is genuinly one of those ARGs that i really want to see the end of

[umbral mauve]

I understand

[umbral mauve]

Same

I’m thinking

Like

What if we opened up the files

Like if anything was hidden inside

[real meteor]

I would try to help, but i genuinly have no idea

Theres a little too many lose ends and material that could mean something, yet no clue on which one is worth looking into

Very cool stuff, but damn absolutely no idea

[umbral mauve]

Real

[umbral mauve]

I have a few ideas

[real meteor]

Hm?

[umbral mauve]

Like this

[umbral mauve]

^

Or smth

[umbral mauve]

Any new leads? Or ideas

[flint gyro]

There's something about Dolphins

[umbral mauve]

Explain

[umbral mauve]

Wdym by that

[flint gyro]

People in the old root subreddit keep talking about Dolphins

[umbral mauve]

Strange

[prime jay]

It's a video on his YouTube channel that is reference in the conclusion on the subreddit I do think there is anything that actually connects to arg on that video it's probably just some references of some sort?

[nocturne trout]

Is there an alternative image dump for all of the discovered images?

[umbral mauve]

Yes

I would love to have that

[prime jay]

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1MTptGGsWdBNw5I3STFooaz7R-HRDaszc_e48gO6voe8/edit#slide=id.p

[umbral mauve]

Thanks man

[umbral mauve]

Someone should pin it

[astral zenith]

bro yall are active on my birthday??? jumpscare warning holy

wsg chat

[astral zenith]

i can help where are we up too?

[umbral mauve]

Happy birthday man

[umbral mauve]

Wsg

[umbral mauve]

Sure

I’m thinking

What if we see if any of the images have secrets in them

[astral zenith]

thanks

[umbral mauve]

Like one puzzle

[astral zenith]

it was 2 days ago thats what i meant

[umbral mauve]

Oh

Still

Happy bday

[astral zenith]

happy late birthday me

thanks

right then

arg time

[umbral mauve]

^^

[umbral mauve]

Oui

[astral zenith]

what specific images?

bro im getting deja vu from a dream

[nocturne trout]

Check now

[umbral mauve]

All

[umbral mauve]

Ik

[astral zenith]

cheers

[umbral mauve]

Oh no

[astral zenith]

i get it a awful lot recently

[umbral mauve]

Like any that we know don’t have a secret already

[umbral mauve]

That sucks

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iirc this was the edgar allen po poem

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Yea

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@sacred aurora get back here

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Crazy

Imagine putting hex into your bio

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wsp

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-# not me frfr

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what'd I miss guys

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alot my guy

im pushing 32 and we are getting closer ig

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A lot

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🙏

guys get me on everything I need to know

I haven't been active mb

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i cant tell

it looks like sure

like SURE

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ye icl

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^^

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It is bureau

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go from here downwards @sacred aurora

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It spells bureau

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how can you tell?

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Bureau of vital records

That’s what it says

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Because

What word has a B and a AU

at the end

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i see it now

i see it

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Yea

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B U smuged R

sumged E

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Yea

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where tf did you get ts

@sacred aurora new leads lets goo

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I color corrected

It isn’t much

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agree

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It doesn’t hold much

I tried

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^^^^^

Not an imigur link

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why tf is there saddam hussein hiding in my arg

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lol

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C would be capitalized if its part of a name of a record, the T is capitalized because it is after the end of a speaking section

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ahh

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I understand

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Yea

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Lead no where

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ahh

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You can check

If u want

With the original

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This one

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this image is unsolved right?

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Yea

Idk

Maybe

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Depends

Idk

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right

im thinking eith that image

you can move certain parts to the same place

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Yea

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we need someone to fix the image now

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I can’t 😭

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neither