Pendulum Color Plus

[brave steppe]

Whew that was a journey. Glad you got it working

[shut lion]

its late night so im dazed as heck for missing the most basic command

thanks so much

[brave steppe]

Enjoy the mod 👍

[shut lion]

last question what is the out file supposed to be? is it the same as my bin path? @brave steppe

[brave steppe]

If you’re referring to importing it’s whatever you want the new file with the imported sprites to be. So if you want to overwrite the old bin you’d just use the same path/file name

[shut lion]

👍 thanks

[wintry marten]

Can we add more stages to quest mode?

[brave steppe]

Not with this mod but my upcoming one will allow that

[wintry marten]

Cool

[smoky anchor]

Is there like a data base where you can find customer sprites. Ex close up and custom icons??

[gleaming ether]

https://donvalleyparkway.neocities.org/cutins

Those are cut ins, for custom icons i am not sure where u can try searching the projects section

[smoky anchor]

Cool thanks a mil

[austere jay]

For the missing ones search digimon pixel portrait collection in the digimon projects tab

[spiral rover]

https://discord.com/channels/761581682686951455/1357322502010966116 look at this channel

[wintry marten]

What about a feature to see our digimon in cold mode?

[drifting ravine]

@brave steppe sorry to @ you. was wondering if the DMC line mod had a thread in the projects section here or if there was one elsewhere, would love to check it out if released or follow the progress.

[tame harbor]

@drifting ravine has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[brave steppe]

Nothing currently exists like that, I’ve just been using this thread for the occasional update. But when I’m closer to release I plan to make its own project thread. I’ll post the link to it here when I’ve reached that point

[drifting ravine]

No worries. Best of luck

[novel lily]

Can I now mod penC7 here? https://dmc-mod-app.pages.dev/

[spiral rover]

Can’t , use this

https://github.com/GMMan/DigimonColorSpriteTool

[wind veldt]

Hey everyone I want to change sprites on my PenC but I am new to the whole thing

I see the guide above my comment regarding the Penc7

Is that something I can use and is beginner freindly so i can change my sprites ?

[wintry marten]

Yes

[wind veldt]

Ok thank you

[wind veldt]

The PenC plus do I need any tools for that all is that all file based?

[sharp pewter]

In the first post there are a couple of guides that should cover all your questions.

[wintry marten]

Remember penc+ doesn't support version 6 and 7 currently

[wind veldt]

Thanks I have, Nso so I should be ok right

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @wintry marten (current: #556 - 2)

[wind veldt]

Thank you

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @sharp pewter (current: #78 - 27)

[wind veldt]

So if I want the stuff in PenC+ but not to actually mod it I don't need the modding guide right and it's just file based? I just want to make sure I'm doing it correctly

[spiral rover]

There is a paragraph in the modification guide that mentions how you want to replace sprite, so you still need to read the guide.

and penc6,penc7,There is no need to play the current mod.

The author mentioned that penc plus is not supported at present.

[wind veldt]

If I don't want to add sprites just add stuff like Digimon's name and stage shown in the stats screen

Digimon power level displayed in stats menu

Evolution timer bar added to stats menu

[wind veldt]

Which version is Nightmare Sol?

[wintry marten]

its written in the box

ver3 iirc

[wind veldt]

Ok thanks

[earnest minnow]

Sorry if you get this a lot, I'm still figuring things out here..

I saw in the FAQ that you can replace sprites of a different size. Does that mean VB sprites can work, or do they still need some kind of alteration?

[brave steppe]

You can use different sized sprites but it doesn’t change how they’re placed. It may look strange when using sprites larger than the game intended.

[wintry marten]

Kuro I'm sorry that this is a general modding question but is it possible to add more variables to the base system In the bin files

[earnest minnow]

I see..

May I ask if you know how to alter VB sprites to work on the PenC?

I was advised to be wary about the sprites being appropriately formatted, but I was unclear on what I was actually meant to do about it

[earnest minnow]

Currently, what I've been guessing is having to resize them to a compatible aspect ratio - but I don't know if that's really the right way to go about it

[brave steppe]

If you can edit the sprites to fit in the original 48x48 size you won’t have any placement issues. But if you want to use a bigger sprite and accomodate the larger dimensions it would require editing the hex code to use different drawing positions for the Digimon sprites. This can be time consuming and require a lot more technical knowledge. I actually guided @crisp adder on how to do this a while back and I believe he successfully got it working for DMC so I think he should be able to help if you’re interested in trying that

[brave steppe]

All the game state variables are initialized in the flash memory, so yes it’s possible to add more variables in the bin. In fact I’ve added several to PenC+ for the new features.

[earnest minnow]

Thanks!
I suppose its best I try reaching out! I've never tried anything like this before, so the uncertainty in how to approach this has been pretty intimidating..

Having someone more experienced in the matter as a guide will definitely be of help!

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #37 - 63)

[wintry marten]

Cool thanks

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #35 - 64)

[crisp adder]

I've done it for the DMC so far, I'm planning to implement it on PenC Plus as well down the line

but it might take a while

[tame harbor]

SHINKA!

@crisp adder has evolved into Perfect!

[hallow birch]

What size of sprites have you gotten to work on the dmc? Are 64x64 or 80x80 doable?

[crisp adder]

64x56 since thats the max for VB sprites

aside from repositioning the sprites with the hex code

I also edited the animation hex so that it only use 7 frames (idle1, idle2, walk1, walk2, happy, sleep, attack) for efficiency and saving space

[crisp adder]

in case if anyone want to see
...though I know Mametyramon isn't exactly a good example due to how small he is, but you can see how he is aligned lower than where Digimon would usually stand at on screen

(I should probably do my own thread)

[muted flint]

A thread for this would be hella sic

[brave steppe]

Yeah, considering how in-depth it is to get this working a new thread would make the most sense

[crisp adder]

On second thought, I'm not sure if I'll do a thread but feel free to DM me to ask about it instead

[crisp adder]

Ah yeah, one last thing:
You may not be able to fit all 31-32 Digimon when using my VB sprites mod for it will bloat the size and possibly overwrite the save address, 17-18 are the safe amount for a roster

[hallow birch]

oh is the storage space THAT limited

[hallow birch]

this looks awesome

[crisp adder]

yep, in my first attempt 2 years ago, I tried making all the 31 mons 64x56 in PenC Metal Empire, it made the bin go over 8mb
reduced a bit to somewhere 24+, it worked but it overwrote the save address instead so save kept getting deleted

reduced again to 17-18, about the size of DIM Roster, and it worked

but it wasn't perfect that time

[wintry marten]

Where is the data stored exactly?

[shut lion]

@brave steppe hi do you have plans to implement the plus patch on the new pendulums?

[crisp adder]

#1356613481532489892 message

[shut lion]

Thanks

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @crisp adder (current: #78 - 27)

[crisp adder]

No prob

[brave steppe]

Hi all, I appreciate everyone’s interest in this mod and all the comments you’ve left. That said, I’ve been pretty busy lately so I want to ask everyone to stick to asking specifically PenC+ related questions here, and anything outside of that scope please ask on the modding_vpets channel. Also I encourage you all to search the thread before asking.

Most of the questions being asked at this point have either already been answered previously or are more general modding questions that could be asked in the general modding channel. This includes anything about sprite changing or bin hacking. That’s what the modding_vpets channel is there for and posting in the appropriate place helps keep community knowledge better organized for posterity. Thanks everyone.

[fair echo]

ok so i patched the bin file but no _plus file is showing up

[inner marlin]

How can I import cut-in at penc+ by cyanic's?

After import, I exported for check the bin. But It didnt imported

😵

[inner marlin]

What's this mean?

[inner marlin]

Finally I did it

[muted flint]

Hella sic, congrats on the success!!!

[scarlet oak]

hires sprites really do look better on the hires color screens

[fair echo]

How did you import the cut-in sprites

[fair echo]

..... Grrrr

Why do the cut ins look like that

[fair echo]

How did you do it, mine don't look like peckmon

[wintry marten]

That looks like a delumon spritesheet mashed up

[fair echo]

how do i fix it?

its supposed to be the cut in sprite

[wintry marten]

Just a sec please

[fair echo]

kk

[wintry marten]

Did you follow the modding guide here?

[fair echo]

yea something about digimon ids

but i didnt quite understand

i thought that if i put them in like this, they would automatically go too where they needed to be

[wintry marten]

They don't lol

[fair echo]

ok then how do i assign them

[wintry marten]

Hmm that looks alright

Did you reimport the images back to the bin file?

[fair echo]

yes i turned them into a binfile

and then flashed that new file onto the chip

[wintry marten]

You should write 837 instead of 805

[fair echo]

i dont get it

[wintry marten]

Simple answer

[fair echo]

like i know but this new bin uses the 1.1 bin as a base

[wintry marten]

We could try once right?

[wintry marten]

Importing is different from exporting

[fair echo]

well i dont wanna lose my progress...

[wintry marten]

Did you move your save to the penc+ bin?

[fair echo]

well its the current bin im using

how do i move it

[wintry marten]

Then its already there

And you must have your backup so no worries

[fair echo]

yea from earlier

[wintry marten]

Go on

[fair echo]

like i made it like a couple of hours ago

[wintry marten]

Failure is the best teacher

[fair echo]

ok so what do i need to do

[wintry marten]

Do the import as you used to do but change 805 to 837

[fair echo]

ohhhh so just update the number?

[wintry marten]

And then try flashing

[tame harbor]

@wintry marten has leveled up! (9 ➜ 10)

[wintry marten]

Yup

Simple as that

[fair echo]

you are a gentleman and a scholar and there arent that many left of us, good fellow!

it worked, so you were right, it was because i had it at 805 rather than 837 when creating the new bin

[fair echo]

you have my thanks

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @wintry marten (current: #79 - 29)

[torpid sail]

Hi, do you know if this will be compatible with Godzilla? https://dmc-mod-app.pages.dev/

I want to translate it into Spanish. I wanted to try the other method but I don't remember how 😅

[vital epoch]

that's really more of a general modding question than a penc+ topic

[vapid yacht]

I have question will this mod will still work correctly if I edit the attack animation on the Digimon Color Modding App or will it ruin the Bin?

[pure thicket]

#1356613481532489892 message

[naive flare]

Ok I did it 😄

[worn canopy]

Would folks say this mod still worth going for?

I've only got a CH341A mini programmer to work with, but I've watched a YouTube video of some using the exact same kit to extract a Digimon Color bin, so I figured their method could work with a Pendulum Color?

I'm just a wee bit worried about breaking things right out of the gate.

[vital epoch]

Yeah, the mod's good, adds some nice quality of life features to the penc

[muted flint]

Such is the risk for modding
That being said, I agree witb Don that this is a mod worth trying, especially because of the QoL features AND custom sprites you can use

[worn canopy]

Thanks @vital epoch and @muted flint for your insight! Think I might practice extracting the bin with one of my other vpets first, but will probably end up giving it a go.

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @muted flint (current: #199 - 10)

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @vital epoch (current: #50 - 48)

[worn canopy]

Just looking at the QoL features alone makes the process seem worth it!

[naive flare]

Yes

[naive flare]

yes its the same method I just mod my pendulum color last weekend

[naive flare]

its easy actually just put some glasses or a magnying glass if your eyesight is not that good and a lantern (phone torch works) and see that the legs of the chips aligns with the teeth of the clip

[worn canopy]

Thank you! That's honestly really reassuring! 👍

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @naive flare (current: #578 - 2)

[naive flare]

If you need help or questions let me know I can help really the only problem I had was finding assprogdammer but I found one that said 2.2 and also the drivers for the usb ch341A

The only hard stuff was finding the driver for the ch341A but I just googled it

[worn canopy]

Thank you so much for the advice! If finding the correct drivers is the hardest part, then I'm pretty confident I can now pull this off.

[cold meteor]

wishing you luck!! PenC Plus is extremely worth it IMO. Really hoping there will be something similar for the Digimon Color some day

[verbal oyster]

what guide should i be using the PenC currently

[brave steppe]

All the guides in the top post are up to date

[novel lily]

E

[muted flint]

Gabumon creation myth

[foggy sierra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/761583343446786099/857420943491596309/image0.png

[crystal vortex]

Dónde está el lobo

[muted flint]

He's on the bmx grind

👀

Bmx grind?

I guess not...

[lunar elk]

I think you need to say it on its own message.

Bmx grind

[foggy sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/bmx-grind-nigel-sylvester-wheelie-bar-spin-stunt-gif-21812639

[lunar elk]

See, no extra letters or symbols.

[wheat raft]

Hii, one question, V7 are still not supported rigth?

[vital epoch]

Nah, as far as I'm aware the dev's currently working on a big DMC mod that's been in the works for quite a while

[wheat raft]

Oh okey thansk so much!

[dense garnet]

Hi, I have a question, to get a traited egg do I still need to wait 48 hours for a stage VI digimon when releasing it?

[brave steppe]

Yes, whether your digimon dies or you retire it the requirements to get the bonus remain the same. A stage VI will need to live with you at least 48 hours before you can retire it if you want the traited egg.

[dense garnet]

Thanks for answering but I have another question now, there is an evolution clock/bar on the status screen, for stage VI mons it signals the 48 hours?

[brave steppe]

Correct, for stage VI the evo clock corresponds with the 48 hour period before it becomes “elderly” and starts to be more needy. At that point if it dies or gets retired you’ll get the traited egg. So if you want the bonus make sure not to retire before the meter is full.

[dense garnet]

Nice, thanks for the answers

[open sky]

@brave steppe I can't seem to turn off during the egg part. How do I do that?

I'm getting this error too.

do I need to use the 1.0 first?

[vital epoch]

You can turn the device off during the egg animation by holding the C button for a long while, eventually it will make a sound then turn off shortly afterwards. Some windows installs aren't configured to show file extensions by default, are you sure your file's just "back-up" and not something like "back-up.bin"?

[open sky]

When I'm adding cut-in I'm getting this error.

[wintry marten]

You can't do cut-ins with the mod app

You should use cyanics Digimoncolorspritetool

[open sky]

Thank you for letting me know. May I know how to I open the sprite tool? When I'm clicking the .exe file it closes immediately.

[worn rover]

It closes immediately because it's a command line program. You can see the usage instructions on the GitHub page.

[bronze mesa]

I'm having a problem with the 1.1 version of the patch, whenever I try to reset, after I select the OK option, the PenC goes back to the boot screen, but still gives me the option to load and my save is still there.

[tame harbor]

@bronze mesa has leveled up! (7 ➜ 8)

[bronze mesa]

I can reflash the bin, but I want to confirm that it's not a known bug before opening it up again.

[brave steppe]

Looking into it

[bronze mesa]

Waiting for the feedback. 🫡

[open sky]

Does someone have a demo video on how to run the spritetool? I really can't seem to comprehend it. 🥲

I want to learn how to run it via the github website.

[bronze mesa]

You don't need a video. Reading the guide is how you learn how to use it.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P-c9XeFpANfKAiNdzwKJ9k9U_EPmVlBDLhjXimgV-Cs/edit?usp=sharing

[open sky]

I mean I have already read this. However, I really don't know much of running the program.

[bronze mesa]

You use a terminal on your computer to run the tool.

[open sky]

Do I need like a specific program to run the .exe file?

[bronze mesa]

cmd or powershell will let you run terminal tools.

Running a program like that is the least you have to know to mod a color. You also have to hash check your reads to make sure you didn't get a bad one, and that also depends on using a terminal

[open sky]

Am I in the right path?

I mean am I doing it right? 😅

[bronze mesa]

Yeah, but like the guide shows you, there are a lot of parameters you need to pass to the tool...

@brave steppe, I just repatched a clean DSa file and It's still giving me the same result when trying to reset the device.

[open sky]

What is <outFile> for?

[wintry marten]

The name of your output file

Also please use the general modding channel for sprite tool

[open sky]

okay sorry.

[brave steppe]

All six versions were tested and I can now confirm that there is a bug present in DSa just as you found, and it’s only in that version. I’m looking into getting that fixed and posted soon. For anyone using any of the other five PenC versions there won’t be any need to update as they don’t seem to have the bug.

[bronze mesa]

Thank you, @brave steppe!

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #36 - 68)

[brave steppe]

Ok, took a bit to sort out but the DSa bug should be fixed now. The new version has been uploaded to the usual download location. Once again, nobody needs to update if they're not running DSa, but if you are it'd be wise to repatch your clean DSa bin and transfer your save as per the guide's instructions.

[bronze mesa]

Thank you!

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #36 - 70)

[muted flint]

Thank you for discovering this!
Happy i haven't modded my Dso yet, this is great

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @bronze mesa (current: #120 - 19)

[open sky]

How do I activate debug mode?

[bronze mesa]

IIRC, from the starting screen A+B+C, then B+C. All while your device is connected and charging.

Might be wrong, I couldn't do it myself. :c

@hallow birch, I saw some messages of you talking about debug mode here. Is that the correct way of entering it?

[hallow birch]

Yup from the load screen

[open sky]

Im still unable to put cut ins😅

[vital epoch]

What command did you use to import the sprites?

[open sky]

Wait I'll get back with some screenshots.

[placid girder]

Hi for cut in, is it possible to use dmc mod app to replace instead of DigimonColorSpriteTool?

[open sky]

Which of these images should I replacing with the cutins?

thank you

[vital epoch]

oh wow, something's gone really wrong with that, 805 onward have been corrupted, what did you write to export these?

[open sky]

I mentioned you at the modding vpets section

Moreover, I replaced them manually.

idk it is the correct way. 😅

[bronze mesa]

You have been advised time and time again how to use the sprite tool, dunno what more to tell you.

[bronze mesa]

Yeah. Either the read was a bad one or he isn't using the proper parameters.

[bronze mesa]

@brave steppe, what are the conditions for debug mode? I can't activate it following the charging and A+B+C then B+C on the boot screen.

[brave steppe]

Is the screen displaying Load and Reset with the selection arrow on Load?

[bronze mesa]

Detailing what I tried:

• Plug PenC for charging;
• Press reset;
• On boot screen (Rukamon silhouette), A+B+C, then B+C;
  All of that and at the end I'm still at the same screen with the silhouette.

Is that supposed to happen?

I can go into the LOAD/RESET screen after, but that just results in coming back to the normal gameplay cycle.

[brave steppe]

If you’re not seeing Load and Reset with the selection arrow on Load when you press A+B+C it won’t work

From what you’re saying it sounds like you’re pressing the buttons on the wrong screen

[bronze mesa]

What should it be? A+B+C on the silhouette screen?

I did it. Yeah, I was in the wrong screen.

https://youtu.be/G7Hmb4Gl1yE?si=4Oi8Frq-a4EfwT9K&t=259

Thank you, @brave steppe!

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #36 - 71)

[bronze mesa]

Everything alright with my DSa now.

[placid girder]

Hi after patching with penC+, can I still use the dmc mod app to change the sprites and build new bin? Will it overwrite the patch content?

[hallow birch]

That's what I did and it worked but there are a few funky things

Some late stage digimon will have their names connected if you edit the names, so it'll be like mastemonagumon

Also editing cut in sprites aren't supported

Personally I still prefer to use it despite those downsides

[placid girder]

Thanks for the information.

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @hallow birch (current: #41 - 64)

[open sky]

Just take note that debug mode doesn't unlock the album

[austere dagger]

I followed the instructions to patch my .bin file and successfully generated the _plus.bin. Using AsProgrammer, I loaded the _plus.bin and clicked the 'Program IC' button to write it. After the process finished, my device won't turn on at all, no matter what buttons I press. Here is the screenshot of the software interface after the writing process.

Help! What's wrong with my process and how can I revive my device?

[wintry marten]

did you try plugging your device into a chareger and pressing the c button for extended periods of time?

[austere dagger]

Oh no, I rewatched the video and realized that I didn't keep the reset button held down the entire time while reading the data.

[wintry marten]

If so, then the penc+ would've rejected modding

Try dmc hash check on your original bin file

[austere dagger]

this is the result

[wintry marten]

huh, it looks intact

[wintry marten]

it should work

[austere dagger]

i use this bin file to patch, and the after process

[austere dagger]

yes, but it's useless

[wintry marten]

weird

[austere dagger]

Is the correct procedure to use 'AsProgrammer' to open the '_plus.bin' file and then click the 'Program IC' button to write it?

if I restore the original bin file

can it open as before?

[wintry marten]

yea

[austere dagger]

thanks, i will give it a try

[hallow birch]

to be clear did you use this option

[austere dagger]

no, i just only press the "programm ic" button

im using this option to try again

but i still don't press the reset button

[hallow birch]

how about you press the reset button too

[tame harbor]

@hallow birch has leveled up! (45 ➜ 46)

[austere dagger]

ok, when this progress done

oh god, it worked!

[wintry marten]

it's slow

[austere dagger]

seems that i didnt use the option you mentioned

by the way, how to clean the inside screen, a glass cloth is ok?

i made some fingerprint on it

[wintry marten]

yep

[hallow birch]

booting and everything?

[austere dagger]

yes, it open again, and with the penc+ mod

[hallow birch]

good job!

[austere dagger]

i thought i lose it forever

hh

[austere dagger]

ok,

[bronze mesa]

Always important to read the guides before trying something that can brick your device.

https://youtu.be/NiudwGNn07k?si=hW5OIefutdgI5j4p

For anyone that is going to try it. I'd recommend reading the guide and watching Zach's video.

[lunar elk]

Is there a way to not have some of the features this mod provides? There are a few I just straight up don't want, like the C button menu.

[brave steppe]

The guide FAQ actually covers that question

It’s just the nature of a big mod like this. Handling six different versions was already tough enough to begin with.

[neon pecan]

seeing that in release note :
JP1 bridged programmatically — no more soldering for debug access

so just reset->A+B+C then B+C with typeC connection ?

for debug mode selection

[brave steppe]

Yes, but you need to make sure you're on the correct screen when you press the buttons. See here: #1356613481532489892 message

[vapid yacht]

Just to make it clear, cause I had issues at this step, make sure it is done on the Load/Reset Screen after you turn it on. SO Technically With USB-C plugged to power : Rest->B->(load/Rest Screen)A+B+C, Then B+C

[neon pecan]

yea thanks a lot, i was so dump after trying to study the rom

[tame harbor]

SHINKA!

@neon pecan has evolved into Baby I!

[bronze mesa]

Glad my mistakes can be used as an example.