Pendulum Color Plus

[torpid sail]

https://kotcrab.github.io/xdelta-wasm/Using this link the combination is the following versions

[young citrus]

Link not working for me

[solemn flicker]

the 'using' from the sentence got carried over as part of the link
https://kotcrab.github.io/xdelta-wasm/

[young citrus]

So you just drop the file and it patches?

[solemn flicker]

i haevnt used it, but i assume so

[foggy sierra]

Automoderator:
"Spies and thieves!", she spits. "Spies and thieves!"

[torpid sail]

I made a mini express tutorial, I hope it helps you.

[zealous zenith]

hopefully theyll be compatible out of the box with this patch

[sweet kernel]

With this, do you still need to go through the save backup and restore steps?

[crystal vortex]

It's gonna be rough when ver 6 and 7 come out to go back to vanilla gameplay XD

[torpid sail]

yes

[solemn flicker]

Oh right i totally forgot about standard penc gameplay 😔 egads

[zealous zenith]

but guys this patch will work with ver 6 and 7

no need to do vanilla gameplay

they said is the same, no new functionalities

so hopefully it will work

[zealous zenith]

From father humulos

let me copy and paste, but is in news section

These two versions are being branded as versions 6 and 7 of the Pendulum Color version, and introduce a bunch of brand spanking new Digimon built around East Asian myths.

Functions are expected to be identical to the other Digimon Pendulum Color devices.

of course ''expected''

no problem!

[solemn flicker]

huh intersting

so godzilla just gets exclusive treatment with the random encounters and cut ins

a bit disappionting but no surprises there
but yeah we'll see when it comes out

[crisp adder]

nah, the patch won't work as it is for the new version, because there's different addresses for each rom, it'll need to be updated for compatibility first

[solemn flicker]

Yeah that's what i was thinking

Especially since the 6 pencs all had different patch files

So it's not like you can just use any of those for the 6 and 7

[crisp adder]

exactly

[brave steppe]

Yeah, in order for it to work I’ll have to manually build it for the new versions.

Depending on how the code changes this could range from being mostly straightforward to being a big pain

I can’t promise support for the new versions but if it’s straightforward I’ll likely update with support for them

[solemn flicker]

Yeah no definitely the fact you even did all that for the original penc waves is insane personally speaking

[crisp adder]

yeah no shit, we had to test each version back then and it was painful LOL

[zealous zenith]

Sorry to bother

What’s the correct size for sprites so pen c+ works ?

And is they any program or way to change sprites sizes?

So they fit the pen c+ needs

Thanks in advance

It seems almost all my favorite sprites doesn’t work with penc + due to size so if anyone can help I’ll appreciate

[crisp adder]

for the Digimon, it's 48x48
you can check the sprites from unmodded rom for reference

[zealous zenith]

Thank you

Do you know any way to check what size are the ones I want or to convert them ?

[glass nimbus]

Any image editing tool

Photopea is free and online if you don't have a preferred option

[zealous zenith]

Thank you 🙏

[novel lily]

did yu make pen c ver6 and 7 plus mode?

[sweet kernel]

They need the flash dump of the device to do that. Once the devices are out, they will check if it's possible and might make it if so. #1356613481532489892 message

[novel lily]

So thanks!

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @sweet kernel (current: #317 - 4)

[weak jolt]

I notice that if you go through the library and press a button, the rest of the unlocked digimon became the icon of DATA, VIRUS and VACCINE and other stuff.

[lucid sequoia]

Permanently or does that reset if you close the library and reopen it

[weak jolt]

It reset. So I guess its something similar of what happend when you freeze your digimon, check the status and press a button.

[brave steppe]

If you’re talking about what I think you’re talking about, that’s actually an intended behavior, not a bug

The A button switches modes

One mode displays digimon and the other displays types

Originally there was going to be more info in the other screen so that’s why I made it like that.

[weak jolt]

what?.....let me check xD

jajaja goddamn it you are right!!

xD

Ooops, my baaad~

[limber granite]

...is there a ShineGreymon line like on PenZ or nah? 👀

[dire wave]

No but PenCs are very moddable roster-wise

[upbeat star]

Hello guys, after modding my NaSp bin i used the dmc-mod-app website to put a custom roster, after clicking build and writing the new +bin file on my digivice, i cant seem to get the digivice to turn on. I took a step back and used the plus bin i didnt put on the dmc-mod-app and it works fine. I hope that made sense, anyone else have trouble with custom sprites?

[muted flint]

I've had issues where a single sprite that was 1 pixel taller than intended was the reason why my PenC didn't turn on

[upbeat star]

ahhh i tried using a new sprite, let me remove him rq and report back

[brave steppe]

Changed sprites need to be the same size as the original sprites so as to not interfere with the extra UI sprites added for the mod

[upbeat star]

ah damn i might have to change my roster, thank you

[muted bluff]

I am confused about editing the Hex for Digimon names. The guide lists the ASCII numbers for letters, but when I input those into my hex editor, I get different letters.

This is from the guide, but lets say I put "65" into a spot, I get a lowercase "e" instead of an "A"

I am learning and am really new to this, so what am I doing wrong?

[nocturne umbra]

This confused me at first as well. Those values are not values for the letters in hex but in ASCII. Use those values as a reference with an ASCII table (Google should pull one up). If you're using IMHex to make your edits there will be a ASCII coulmn where you can make your edits easier. When you change a values in there it will automatically update the hex code with the corresponding value

Just make sure you're following all the other formatting requirements listed in the modding guide

[muted bluff]

AH!!

Ok, I got it now! Thank you sooooo much

that makes so much more sense.

While your here, lol....

Do I need to do this mod BEFORE I do any other editing (sprites, evo timer, etc)?

Or can I do it after?

[nocturne umbra]

I always make sure to apply this mod first. I've seen some say making sprite changes before applying it caused problems

[muted bluff]

Dang! I just spent so long editing everything, lol

I am using the Mod App Page, so I could just screenshot all the values and reupload the sprites when ready

no biggie

Hmm... it does say do not patch the Plus file....

but that doesn't mean modding in the DMC MOD APP page?

[nocturne umbra]

The mod app page wil recognize your bin file as having the penc+ patch

[muted bluff]

OH

Neat!

[nocturne umbra]

I personally dont use the mod page for my editing

[muted bluff]

I'm still a newb, so it helps! lol

[nocturne umbra]

Oh yeah its super nice! I'm just always worried it won't play nice with the mod lol

[muted bluff]

I am getting an error using the cmd prompt for the plus mod

xdelta3: target window checksum mismatch: XD3_INVALID_INPUT

It seems to think its not the source file, but I just pulled it straight from the device

hmm, let me try resetting the device again and pulling the bin once more.

Ok got it!

[muted bluff]

If when renaming a Digimon, the name fills all the alloted characters (therefore not leaving room for two more sets of "00") will that mess anything up? According to the guide, it says the next letter after the final letter must be 00 00.

Example: AtlurKabuterimon using 16 characters.

[nocturne umbra]

Last value needs to be 00 when using the full name length

[muted bluff]

But just the last paired 00, not a full letter of 00 00? Just checking to be sure

[muted bluff]

I think.... success?

[muted bluff]

Yup! Success!

[hallow basalt]

Hi, someone knows Whats the button combo to enter in debug mode / selector? Already try reset+a+b+c

[half cairn]

After that B+C

[hallow basalt]

TY, but dint work . x.x , better i will try to use JP1 like always, anw TY

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @half cairn (current: #655 - 1)

[brave steppe]

This thread has the info on debug mode for DMC but it applies the same for PenC:

https://x.com/GMMan_BZFlag/status/1631511145466011648

Caralynx (@GMMan_BZFlag)

Debug mode with #Digimon Color #デジモン カラー

X · Mar 3, 2023, 4:25 AM

[torpid sail]

How do I turn it off? I hold down the "C" button, but the shutdown menu doesn't appear.

[pure thicket]

press B+C

[torpid sail]

ok

[torpid sail]

Hi, I want to know if I'm doing it wrong since I want to change the sprites in HD to the mod plus but the pendulum doesn't recognize it. Is this possible?

[novel lily]

How to get mastemon sprites?

[novel lily]

So cute

[novel lily]

I have some question.

If I change poop timer.

Then Pen C plus dosen't work?

I changed poop timer 120 min to 240 min.
then my pendulum has dosen't work

[lucid sequoia]

Are you sure it was a good write?

Changing the timer shouldn’t corrupt the file

[novel lily]

Yes.
I checked file has good write.
Also re extract bin file. but that's not corrupted.

If 62 x 48 size sprites is the prolbems?

I put in some sprites 54 x 48 58 x 48 62 x 48

But still I can't understand 🙁

[sleek merlin]

Do I need any special tools to do this Mod?

[sweet kernel]

The tools needed can be found in the pins of #modding_vpets in the Digital Monster Color modding information

[muted flint]

Yes, this could be the problem
I've had an issue where a sprite 1 size shorter than intended causes the device not to boot if sprites are sized correctly

[novel lily]

I got it.

[sleek merlin]

Is there a video showing Pendulum Color Plus in action?

[brave steppe]

#1356613481532489892 message

[silk fable]

Apologies for the basic question but Is there a guide for the hardware side of modding the colours such as dissembly/hardware required? I can see the instructions for this mod but presumably I'm missing a significant chunk of the process

Just seen the messages above re: modding vpets. Will check there first

[sharp pewter]

If you check youtube I'm sure there's a couple of videos on dmc\penc disassembly. There's also at least one on the hardware, that I know of.

[silk fable]

I've modded my vital bracelet so hopefully I've got half the stuff required already lol

[glass nimbus]

There's a guide in the pins of #modding_vpets

[sleek merlin]

Thank you!

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #51 - 39)

[cinder cipher]

I get this error but my file has a good checksum

Is this something that already happened ?

[sleek merlin]

Could it be it can't find your DMC.bin?

[cinder cipher]

It's in the same folder so, I dont think 🙁

[sleek merlin]

This is the part of the code where it errors out.. You could try and run it manually..

:: Patch the bin file using xdelta.exe
echo.
echo Applying patch...
set patchFile=penc+_%version%.xdelta
xdelta.exe -f -d -s "%binFileName%" "mod_patches/%patchFile%" "%modBinFileName%"

if %ERRORLEVEL%==0 (
echo Patch applied successfully
echo New file: %modBinFileName%
) else (
echo Error occurred while applying the patch.
goto end
)

[cinder cipher]

Im soooo sorry, it's my bad...
I didnt start a new file like asked in the guide to patch the bin....

Thank you for your help UnderdoG!

[sleek merlin]

No problem! Glad you got it working!!

[sleek merlin]

@cinder cipher can you share the details for the programmer you used?

[cinder cipher]

If I manage to write the bin ill share it yes

for now it doesnt seem to be able to write

Stuck here

[tame harbor]

@cinder cipher has leveled up! (6 ➜ 7)

[cinder cipher]

Ok got it to work nvm

[sleek merlin]

🙂

[cinder cipher]

I ued ASProgrammer

Do you need a download link or the step I did ?

[sleek merlin]

I meant - the actual physical tool 🙂

[cinder cipher]

Oh, wait, once its finished I'll take some pictures of the hardware, I remember getting it of off Aliexpress 2 years ago

Not sure if i can still find the exact link

I'll check

Oh lol, found it !

Dont know if I'm allowed to link this here tho

[sleek merlin]

I got it - TY Looks like the same as what I'm getting at - You can remove it if you want

[cinder cipher]

Here's a picture

What do you want to know ? 😁

[sleek merlin]

I think i'm all good! Thanks let me know how you like the Plus features 🙂

[queen topaz]

First time trying this as a test to see if I prefer this or the bigger vb style sprites (not all of them have been converted to 48x48 unfortunately) and so far I do have to say the 4 backup and the retire function is great.

[brave steppe]

The ability to change sprite sizes is on the way

Will be in v1.1 update

[queen topaz]

[muted flint]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-ben-man-hype-pumped-gif-1583285325096508283

[weak jolt]

Wait, there will be an Update!?!?

[crisp adder]

yes

[brave steppe]

Yeah I was waiting for the portraits to be finished to release it because the update will include the portrait cut-ins during battle, but I will probably release it sooner

[covert kernel]

Will it be possible to add the portrait(those that already finished)?

[brave steppe]

Yeah I’ll release it in a way where you have to add your own portrait sprites so you can use whichever one are already available

[covert kernel]

Man you are amazing.

[brave steppe]

I’ll probably make it so you can turn cut in mode on and off by changing a bit in the bin file, this way people can disable it if they don’t have the portrait sprites available yet

[covert kernel]

This is amazing as always, man... THANK YOU!!!

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #50 - 40)

[solemn flicker]

Holy fuck

[covert kernel]

Now, just questioning, how hard is to mod those files to get a experience we would get with a Pendulum 20th?
I mean, the battle interaction, is it to hard to at least think about it?

I'm asking cause a real Pen20th is extremely expensive and hard to get nowadays.

[brave steppe]

Are you talking about making it so the battle connection spoofs pen20 data?

Or just like a general mod to have pen20 gameplay?

[covert kernel]

No, Battle animations Pen20th have... Digimon moving and jumping to do the attacks, every Digimon having 1 or 2 weak and 1 or 2 strong atacks, bigger life bars so the attacks can do more or less damage, etc.

[brave steppe]

Oh, I’ve never used a pen20 so I wasn’t aware of all those differences

[covert kernel]

At least the animations Pen20th have in battle would be so freaking crazy

[brave steppe]

I guess it’s possible but I don’t know if it’s in something I’d be working on in the near future just because the animation system in particular is a pain to work with

[covert kernel]

oh, they have the same interactions a DMX or PenZ have

[brave steppe]

Oh yeah, I see what you mean

[covert kernel]

Except for the close-in

[brave steppe]

Yeah that would be nice but it’d be a pretty big project. It’s on my future ideas list but right now after finishing the PenC+ update I’m turning my attention to DMc

[covert kernel]

Wen Bandai anouced them i thoght they would port the Pen20th battle mode cause it was the latest installment

But no luck lol

[brave steppe]

Yeah Bandai really underbaked the color devices. It’s definitely a step back from the DMX/penZ gameplay they’d recently released

I think I’ll want to add some of those things in down the road for both PenC and DMc

But my attention after will be on getting DMC some plus features and release the roster expansion

Cyanic has allowed me his code to build upon so I can release a larger mod with both custom rosters and plus features

[covert kernel]

That's so nice to hear, thank you so much for considering that feature.

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #48 - 41)

[covert kernel]

DAM... Now we are playing with power lol. Another great news.

[brave steppe]

A lot of things are happening in the background right now. Loops too is working on his smt mod and has some exciting developments

I tend not to post a lot of updates of my stuff until I’m far enough along that it’s pretty imminent, just so people don’t have to get too excited too early. But yeah, I definitely have some stuff cooking

[covert kernel]

Every news in DMC/PENC is a big news... I'm very excited right now, thanks again.

[queen topaz]

First time hearing of a smt mod 👀

[brave steppe]

#1154171927900987452 message

[weak jolt]

The Bolero song is staying? :'v

[sharp pewter]

Interesting, could you add details about roster expansion\custom roster, or is it too early?
But more important, is it planned for the PenC too (since you were talking about DMC)?

[brave steppe]

Of course

[brave steppe]

It’s building off of what cyanic had already made. Its initial version will allow unlimited size roster (to the extent memory allows) as well as custom evo conditions. I may add updates later on to allow other kinds of customization

If everything goes well with the dmc mod I’ll eventually add that functionality to PenC as well.

It’s more complicated to do on PenC so that’s why it’ll be later

Additionally, I actually have a special mod project I’m working on right now that I haven’t announced and that’s a top priority for me as well

[zenith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-gif-23934762

When is the time? I think I'll be a grandfather after waiting! lol

[sharp pewter]

Cool, cool. Looking forward to it.

[cinder cipher]

All great news, thank you for your work! 🔥

[brave steppe]

I do all of this work in my spare time for free. Nobody pays me. It’ll be done when it’s done. I’d expect everyone here to understand this and have patience. We’re all adults I presume

[zenith mantle]

@brave steppe all Digimon fans will recognize your efforts! I'm also very excited! (The joke that I think I'm going to be a grandfather is Korean humor! )

[crisp adder]

either way it came off in rather poor taste, it's not cool to be demanding of people working for free

[odd bluff]

MAKE IT YOURSELF THEN

[tame harbor]

SHINKA!

@odd bluff has evolved into Ultimate!

[odd bluff]

this shit

IS TEDIOUS!!!!!!!

(sorry that was just some Filipino humor)

[pure thicket]

Want it done faster? Maybe consider commissioning stuff

This is a passion project, we've been given a lot for free. This sort of stuff takes time

I'm just glad we got what we got so far, we could have had way less, like some other projects on here.

[zenith mantle]

@pure thicket I'd love to do that if possible! Kuro's work is loved in Korea! (If the humor was not funny and polite, I sincerely apologize.)

[crisp adder]

glad that you apologized, all good

[zenith mantle]

It meant that we're looking forward to it and waiting for it

I'm so excited that I got ahead of myself. I'm sorry, everyone. 🙁

[tame harbor]

@zenith mantle has leveled up! (2 ➜ 3)

[pure thicket]

I get the excitement, you could just have expressed it better. You apologized tho, so no worries

Just be a little more careful in the future. Projects like these take time to create and most often a lot more time to polish.

It's a pioneer in the field basically.

[covert kernel]

I think he ment it was an expression from his country, but he should know most of us wouldnt get it.
That's nice he apologize.

[brave steppe]

This blew up a bit. I appreciate the supportive messages, and I appreciate the apology. Things got a bit heated because these guys know the stress I’ve gone through doing these mods. It’s ok though, no hard feelings. I’m happy to hear that the mods are enjoyed in Korea.

This is probably also a good time to mention that if anyone is feeling especially appreciative of my mods please consider donating a few dollars to my ko-fi page or at least letting others know about it. (https://ko-fi.com/kurozatou) Any donation exclusively goes to buying tools like a better flash programmer or a new device to make mods for.

I was hoping after releasing PenC+ the donations would have helped me afford an xgecu for faster testing but so far I actually haven’t received any. So as blunt as it is to say this, donations do translate to faster progress.

[fierce saddle]

What does this mean? Like, larger than 48x48?

[fierce saddle]

As for the xgecu, are you referring to this https://xgecu.myshopify.com/collections/xgecu-t48-tl866ii-3g-programmer

[brave steppe]

There won’t be any restriction on sprite size beyond just the normal way it’s coded. So yes, you can use images larger than 48x48 and it might look not properly centered but it won’t crash the program

[brave steppe]

Yeah, exactly. That’s the one I’ve seen cyanic recommending

[fierce saddle]

There's a lot of different bundles with different accessories. Hmmm. I'm assuming you plan or already have preordered the PenC 6/7s?

[brave steppe]

No lol I haven’t been able to purchase a new device since my PenC wave 2s. Without going into my finances I’ll just say donations would’ve helped there.

[fierce saddle]

Hmmm. Okay.

[brave steppe]

But I have enough work to do just for vanilla dmc and PenC so I’m fine focusing on that

Also I was very fortunate to be donated a dmc so that’s why I’m working on that device as well

It’s honestly not a big deal whether anyone donates or not, I’m not really expecting it. I’m just letting it be known that it does make a difference in what I can do modding wise. But like I said, my focus right now is on the devices I do have, the dmc and PenC. The thing I’d purchase with donations is just a better programmer

[fierce saddle]

My CH347 is still coming in the mail. I'll try out your mod once it arrives.

[queen topaz]

Yeah I can highly recommned the xgecu myself now I have one, very fast!

[weak jolt]

Everyone with a mod PenC appreaciate your work. Its waaay more alluring now to have one!
Thank you so much! ❤️

[sleek merlin]

FYI - Id be more then happy to go in with a few people for the XGecu Programmer for Kurozatou!

🙂

[brave steppe]

That's a very kind sentiment but actually the XGecu was just covered by DocKlokMan

Any donations of course are always appreciated and helpful, but I wanted to put that out there

[sleek merlin]

well thats awesome! 🙂 I'll send some your way!

[merry spindle]

Hello guys! I just found this mod while scrolling on the digimon projects, i don´t know anything about this mod but im curious to know more. Do you have here a message explaining what it is and that kind of stuff?

[glass nimbus]

Check the pins

[merry spindle]

thank you

[shadow needle]

any forecast of when version 1.1 will come out?

[brave steppe]

It's hard to give anything more specific than soon

[brave steppe]

On that note, when the update does come out in order to update correctly you're going to need your original unmodded bin backup that you're instructed to save in the installation guide

Is there anyone who does not have this backup?

I'm hoping everyone followed the instructions

[sleek merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/fingers-crossed-fry-billy-west-futurama-hopeful-gif-6653617192780453118

[shadow needle]

I didn't update yet. I asked because if it's close to a week or even a month, i'd prefer to wait before modding it.

Anyway thanks for answering. The mod is absurdly good and makes the PenC a complete experience

[brave steppe]

That’s fair, and I do recommend waiting

It should be within the month

[covert kernel]

Good to know, I had the same question.

[weak jolt]

I would probably copy the digimons into the new mod bin....

[foggy sierra]

Actually, the plural of Digimon is Appmon.

[odd bluff]

yall wanna see something crazy

[brave steppe]

sneak preview of cut-in:

<Poorly cropped video removed lol>

[odd bluff]

god tier cropping job

[brave steppe]

how about this?

[odd bluff]

yea that's pretty sick

[weak jolt]

Nowaaaaaaay

[pine ridge]

👍 👍

[silver apex]

awesome

[novel lily]

awesome

[icy flare]

👍 👍awesome

[ashen tree]

Amazing!!!!

[wise plover]

Love it!

[versed gorge]

Wow

[brave steppe]

Testing is moving along quicker than expected. I might be able to release the update next week.

Also, before anyone gets disappointed I want to point out I did not create the cut-in sprites, I got them from the pixel portrait collection found on this server and also here: https://donvalleyparkway.neocities.org/cutins

As you can see if you click the link, the pixel portraits have not been finished for all six versions. Currently only the wave 1 devices are fully complete. I will be releasing this update with placeholders and it’ll be the users responsibility to add the cut-in sprites (I will give instructions). You can take them from the same source I did or make your own. Right now for everyone using a wave 2 device you’ll need to either create your own or wait for the artists to finish creating the rest of the portrait sprites. I can’t tell you when that will be done, it’s up to those who choose to work on it. They’re not being paid to do it either so please be patient.

[weak jolt]

Can't ask for more 🥲

Do you think that an image taken from the card game (cuted and resized) would work?

[brave steppe]

Any image cut to 96x48 should work in theory. I can’t say for sure whether it’ll look good but it might. Just depends on the source image and whether it gets really distorted from compressing it to such a small size

It’s worth a try if you don’t want to wait for the portrait sprites to be finished

Also, the cut-ins can be disabled by changing a single bit in a hex editor (I’ll give instructions for that too) so if you want to install the update for the bug fixes but not use cut-ins until the sprites are finished you can do that too

[weak jolt]

Awesome!! I already did something similar with the DiM cards :p

I will eagarly wait :3

[covert kernel]

Amazing news

[queen topaz]

Wow that soon, I was expecting longer to be able to stock up some new sprites.. Maybe I should commission someone for some in that case.

[brave steppe]

Yeah, the testing and porting stage has been going a lot smoother than the original release. I guess a combination of the update being smaller and me being a lot more experienced

(I also just have been putting a lot of time into it this week)

I'm all but ready to put an actual release date down

Might be able to do that tomorrow

[weak jolt]

No waaay 😮

[covert kernel]

OMG!!!!!!!!

[brave steppe]

I don’t have a CH347 but I know @odd bluff does. When he gets the chance he may be able to tell you how he has his configured

[odd bluff]

can I see a pic of your pins?

[brave steppe]

(Portrait sprites seen in this video come from the pixel portrait collection: #1357322502010966116 message)

Pendulum Color Plus UPDATE
Version 1.1
——————————————————
Download here

Update Notes:

• All known bugs have been fixed
• Default sprites can now be swapped with sprites of any size
• Megahit cut-in feature (see your Digimon’s portrait when you shake a megahit)

As usual, installation/update instructions and how to use the new features are found in the two guides:

Installation guide
Modding your PenC+ guide

Any questions or bug reports should be posted in this project thread.

Please consider donating to my Ko-fi page if you’ve enjoyed the mod and would like to help support me in developing future ones:
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[foggy sierra]

Gave 1 Digi-rep to kurozatou (current: #49 - 42)

[brave steppe]

With this new update I consider PenC+ now feature complete. This is the intended optimal OG Pendulum experience I set out to make a year ago. There are no further planned updates besides any potential bug fixes. Future mod projects will be released under a new title (and are currently in development)

So if you’ve been holding off installing PenC+, now’s the time to do it

I hope you all enjoy the new cut-in feature and the entire PenC+ package!

[odd bluff]

already getting to work with it 🫡

this ROCKS

[crisp adder]

Enter the cut-in

[weak jolt]

Oh boy! I need to re-learn how to copy my save into a new bin :'v

[crisp adder]

there's a guide to it above in case if you haven't check it

[weak jolt]

I just take a quick look at the guide. I will mod it mine in a few days xD

[crisp adder]

I'm sorry but, do you mind moving this conversation to #modding_vpets just to not flood our thread?

[keen dagger]

#modding_vpets message
If your cable is longer than 10 cm, it won't work with DMC/PENC.

[weak jolt]

@crisp adder i just saw your closeup for Metal empire. Amaizing! Thanks alot!!! ❤️

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @crisp adder (current: #81 - 24)

[covert kernel]

It's old reply but ok, done

[crisp adder]

thanks

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @covert kernel (current: #164 - 10)

[crisp adder]

glad you like it!

[fierce saddle]

This is super important info I wish I had known. Default length most Amazon listing are for is 20cm

[crisp adder]

nice, you have updated it too

just evolved, more cut-in to try

[ornate mist]

@covert kernel where do you get it sir

[crisp adder]

if it's about the CH347, I suggest asking about it in #modding_vpets just to not drown this thread from the main topic being about PenC+

[silver apex]

Amazing

[pine ridge]

May I ask which version of Cyanic's Sprite Tool is used for export. 1.1.0 or 2.2.0?

I failed to imitate this command: DigimonColorSpriteTool export<binPath>4194304 188928<numImages><outDirk>. Among them,<numImages>is equal to 837

The command I am using is: /DigimonColorSpriteTool2/DigimonColorSpriteTool.exe export vp1_dump1_plus.bin 4194304 188928 837 penc_sprites_v11

[odd bluff]

I use 2.1.0

[pine ridge]

Could you give me a command as a reference?😊

[weak jolt]

You knwo, there is a page that you can use too.

[cyan whale]

Got the mod on the device successfully! Thank you 🙏🏼

[pine ridge]

thanks bro

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @weak jolt (current: #304 - 5)

[pine ridge]

Does this mean that the export was successful? You just need to replace it yourself

[brave steppe]

Yeah, exactly

[crisp adder]

it's already said in the guide that the portrait sprites aren't included

[pine ridge]

Thanks. Now I know how to operate it.

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #49 - 43)

[pine ridge]

Sorry, I didn't pay attention.😄

[versed gorge]

Nice 🤙

[torpid sail]

Can this page be used with the latest update? https://kotcrab.github.io/xdelta-wasm/

[brave steppe]

I think so but I haven’t personally tested it

[torpid sail]

I already tried it, it works halfway because it doesn't allow me to put in the cuts

[brave steppe]

The cut ins was never something you could add with xdelta. You have to use cyanic’s sprite tool after patching. Check the modding guide here to see the instructions: PenC+ Modding Guide

[night bolt]

Hello everyone, I am also going to change pen C to plus, but I currently do not understand how to read in my device’s current .bin file? Is it necessary to disassemble the machine?

What equipment is needed to get the.bin? I hope I can get your help. Thank you.

[odd bluff]

check the pins in #modding_vpets as well as some youtube videos

[night bolt]

Thank you. I'll look for it.👍

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @odd bluff (current: #1167 - -2036)

[night bolt]

I tried to find it on YouTube before, but unfortunately I didn't find the relevant content. Maybe I didn't enter the right keywords. What words can I find the video?

[odd bluff]

take this to #modding_vpets

[night bolt]

Okay, thank you very much.

[torpid sail]

Yes, I did it with the method, I just wanted to share that I tried it.

[torpid sail]

Could you please share the menus with me?

[cyan whale]

Could you clarify what you are looking for? The menus are all standard sprites

[tame harbor]

@cyan whale has leveled up! (8 ➜ 9)

[torpid sail]

I mean the options I show you the ones that come out to me

[cyan whale]

Oh the updated icons, I got them on this discord I believe…, let me look around

[cyan whale]

Here ya go: #1295210154266202174 message

I applied a monochrome filter to get the blacked out versions

That thread also has a bunch of different menu sprites including for the PenC, so it’s worth a look if you like the font/style

[torpid sail]

ok, thanks ☺️

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @cyan whale (current: #137 - 12)

[pine ridge]

Hi,bro.In version 1.0, I used 0x02013E to 0x0288DA to save data, but using version 1.1 would cause Portrait to become invalid. Is it because the Portrait code was overwritten. @brave steppe

[silk fable]

Damn I need to do the appropriate research on how to do this mod. Looks so good

[versed gorge]

Man I need to get a clear shell too 😮

[tame harbor]

@versed gorge has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[fierce saddle]

I didn't even notice the clear shell! That goes so hard.

[crisp adder]

If I may ask, what's in those address?

Because as far as we know, the save data aren't even located there

[pine ridge]

When it was version 1.0, I asked for the attribute address to save Digimon, and someone else told me.

Could it be that I misunderstood?

[crisp adder]

Honestly we have no idea what is that even about, who is this someone else?

You are likely misunderstood, yes

[fierce saddle]

Attribute address would be where it defines if a Digimon is Data, Vaccine, Virus or Free.

Hush. Sensei is about to speak.

[brave steppe]

I'm assuming you're referring to the digimon data table at 0x2013E (although I don't know why you say to 0x288DA, that's way larger than the data table). Anything there would be overwritten when updating so you'll need to add your edits to that section again

[pine ridge]

What I mean is, can we get the address range for this part? If it's difficult, then I'll take my time to revise it myself

[brave steppe]

you had the right start address but the wrong ending address. For every version (other than vbu which has more digimon) the end address would be 0x205BD

[fierce saddle]

Hmm, that does bring up a question from me too. I tried using the web app and did a test, when it downloads its missing the cut-in portraits in the image folder, I'm assuming because the web app hasn't been updated to include them. But if I extract the images with Cyanics tool and then edit the portrait sprites and repack with Cyanics tool the changes from the web app would carry over?

[pine ridge]

I found it, it was obtained when I asked tero0x. Isn't 88DA 0x0288DA? I have always misunderstood

[crisp adder]

The webapp hasnt been updated for it, so yeah, I dont think it will work well with it

[brave steppe]

Honestly I don't know what he was talking about with the 88DA part

but it's way bigger than the data table

[pine ridge]

Yes, although it won't be displayed on the web

[fierce saddle]

That's fine, thank you. I just use the web for editing stats, Cyanics tool for sprites.

[brave steppe]

I'm not sure how the web app handles things since it seems tero0x hasn't updated it in a little while but I think it should still work with editing. And yeah, without him updating it the app doesn't acknowledge the portraits

[fierce saddle]

Did Cyanics tool need updating to support portraits or is it coded in a way to find and extract all sprites programmatically?

[brave steppe]

his tool allows command line parameters so you just have to pass the correct ones and it should work. The correct parameters are given in the modding guide that's in the pin

[fierce saddle]

Gotcha.

[pine ridge]

It's okay, is the correct address 0x02013E to 0x205BD for v1-v5

[brave steppe]

yeah, and it ends at 0x205E1 for vbu

[fierce saddle]

Honestly I just need to make an ImHex pattern definition for the Vpets in case the site ever goes down.

[brave steppe]

I have some actually

I can upload them

[fierce saddle]

Holding out on us, boi?!

[pine ridge]

Thank you very much, this is very helpful to me and will reduce a lot of modification time

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #46 - 45)

[brave steppe]

Lol I thought they were just being passed around on this server. I didn't make them myself

[fierce saddle]

To be fair I didn't search to see if they existed or anything, lol. Fuck it, I'll make a python script to do it for me. Make it so I can pass a CSV file or something and it'll handle all the rest. It'll give me a project to do.

[brave steppe]

in the modding guide there's a link to a hexpats folder

I put two new hexpats there

I only have it for PenC v1 but it can be used for the other versions

[crisp adder]

Except Virus Busters since it has one more Digimon

[brave steppe]

For that just change the 32 to 33 here:

[pine ridge]

very nice

[silver apex]

the image from DMUL? some digimon is splicing my friend image

[tame harbor]

@silver apex has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[pine ridge]

Partially yes. Someone has sent DMUL sprites.😄

Great portrait

[novel lily]

what is 0x2E000 ?

I can't find it

[brave steppe]

Try opening the bin with different software. The program I use is ImHex

With that program you can use ctrl+G to navigate to an address

Just put in 0x2E000 and it should work

[novel lily]

Thanks! I'l try again

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #46 - 46)

[torpid sail]

Hello friends, can someone tell me why it won't let me change Digimon?

[tame harbor]

SHINKA!

@torpid sail has evolved into Child!

[brave steppe]

PenC doesn’t let you change during the baby stage

[silver apex]

Evolution to baby II

[cyan whale]

Metalgreymon cut in!

[pale jetty]

Hey there- I was looking through the guide in the pins and I wanted a little clarification as someone who hasn't messed with modding these before. Is there a guide that explains how to actually install the mod on the device from start to finish?

I don't have any experience modding vpets so when it mentions reading in the device's .bins I don't really know where to start with that.

[glass nimbus]

Start with the guide in #modding_vpets

It's in the pins, the full DMC modding guide

[pale jetty]

Thank you hummus

[fierce saddle]

Lol

[fierce saddle]

What are you using to extract the sprites? If it's the website it hasn't been updated to extract them.

[fierce saddle]

What command are you using? The command that you use for the stock firmware, PenC+ 1.0 firmware and PenC+ 1.1 firmware are different.

[tame harbor]

SHINKA!

@brisk vault has evolved into Baby I!

[fierce saddle]

You can't use the presets. The command for extracting is DigimonColorSpriteTool export <binPath> 4194304 188928 <numImages> <outDir> where numImages is 837 for all 1.1 versions except virus busters, in which case it's 850

[brisk vault]

I'll give it a try. Thank you for your help.
👍 😋

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @fierce saddle (current: #114 - 15)

[tame harbor]

@brisk vault has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[brisk vault]

omg thank you so much... I don't know where you live or who you are, but I will pray that there is at least one parking spot wherever you go. I solved the problem in a few days. Thank you. lol

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @fierce saddle (current: #108 - 16)

[brave steppe]

For future reference for everyone, the exact instructions to properly export and import sprites are given in the modding guide in the pinned post

It is also mentioned in the installation guide to reference this modding guide for setting up the cut-ins

Please everyone, read the guides. They’re both linked in the same post where you find the download.

[fair echo]

can you add a feature like in the X and penZed where if you hit the top button in clock mode, it changes time from 24 hour too 12 hour?

[odd bluff]

No.

This is already a feature, even in vanilla PenC

hope this helps

[fair echo]

Yea

[fair echo]

Where did you get the custom shell

[sharp pewter]

Now, now, you can't demand people start reading things... It's against the direction everything and the whole world are going toward! /s

[crisp adder]

bruh LMAO

[weak jolt]

This guide doesnt even have drawings!

[muted flint]

https://tenor.com/view/aqua-teen-aqua-teen-hunger-force-i-dont-need-no-instructions-to-know-how-to-rock-red-faced-gif-17719622

[brisk vault]

😞 sorry

[sharp pewter]

For what?
It wasn't directed at you specifically, but to the majority of people and the state of the world.

[silver apex]

Reading is a good thing for people. You can't expect the author to do everything for you. Try it after reading. People will try to help you when you encounter problems. It is not a good thing to do nothing and just want to take it.

[vital epoch]

You got to read the tell tale heart and write an essay on it's themes or the patch will fail

[fair echo]

Yeesh penCs are expensive

[inner marlin]

How can I do this?

[crisp adder]

is your base Pendulum bin Virus Busters?

[hazy berry]

Did you reset your device? You need the bin you patch to have no save data.

[inner marlin]

Yes

And I did it, but my pendulum color dont work anymore🥺

If I connect CH341, My pendulum color make the sounds like 'bbi-bbi-bbi-pi-'

[crisp adder]

as ValkyrieOrange asked, before you dump the rom, did you reset the save file first?

[inner marlin]

Yes I did

My pendulum no more working

So sad

[hazy berry]

The modding guide has a troubleshooting section that might help you.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CYo0l2pmq4tROpeMIVieCdguyxwkBehPbKnlhIKrwUY/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.qp0i7d93xzq9

[inner marlin]

Thank you!

[tame harbor]

@inner marlin has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

SHINKA!

@inner marlin has evolved into Baby I!

[fierce saddle]

Finally modded my PenC with + 1.1. What started as a small roster edit ended up with me replacing most of the UI graphics, lol. Digimon Sprites and the items they interact with (food, attacks, poop) have had a filter applied to make their pixels stand out more and is not a stock effect of the PenC+ mod.

Obligatory looks better in person. Here's a still image that's not as washed out.

[brave steppe]

Looks great, you really made the most of what you can mod on top of the PenC+ base

[muted flint]

It looks soo cool, congrats on the sic mod job!

[spiral epoch]

What's the mod that replaces shaking with pressing?

[fierce saddle]

WIP commission. It works for training and battles but I'm not sure if it works for saving a dying Digimon or giving a new egg the +10 bonus.

[inner marlin]

I don't know why the Sprite gets cut off.

[vital epoch]

Looks like it updates when the menu icons update, might be too tall

[cyan whale]

Probably because the sprite used is larger than the original sprite, so the movement can be off on the edges of the screen. You’d have to manually change the positions of the sprite at each frame that has this issue. It’s easy to do so on the web app but the most recent PenC+ update has not been implemented on it so you’re kinda stuck doing it in hex at the moment.

[crisp adder]

more accurately, that sprite has 56 pixel height, the height pixel limit for PenC and DMC is 48 pixels

also just changing the position in the webapp won't be enough because it's only for the idle movement main screen

[sharp pewter]

Cool, looks like whatever is drawn on the two bands containing the menu gets updated only when the menu "function" is called (and therefore graphically updated). Which makes me wonder why the sprite is drawn there in the first place, then (complete screen refresh?).
Such a weird behaviour!

[fierce saddle]

Because when you exit a menu it queues up the BG, the menu icons, and the Digimon sprite (in that order) then does a whole screen refresh so it all shows up at once. Following that the idle animation only updates the 96x48 area the Digimon moves around in. If it did BG, Digimon, then menu icons before doing the whole screen refresh you wouldn't see the feet at all.

[sharp pewter]

Yeah, figured that much.
Still weird that updates only the moving area, instead of the sprite itself.

[crisp adder]

you have to basically reposition the sprites offset on every instances when the Digimon sprite is used, such as when the Digimon showing their happy or angry expression after training, when the Digimon is eating, battling, in album, etc

[brave steppe]

Bandai coded it that way likely to be more efficient. When only the middle part of the screen changes it will only render that portion so it doesn’t waste time redrawing the whole thing

[sharp pewter]

Oh, I can see that, don't get me wrong.
It's just that from where I come from, it seems weird each sprite is not considered a single unit.

[brave steppe]

That kind of abstraction would be overkill for an embedded device like this

The way they did it makes sense for the software they were writing. It’d be no more efficient to make a sprite a single unit except for allowing people to mod it, which of course is something they actively wouldn’t want

Basically the system works well except for when you try to make it do something it was never supposed to do. But at that point it’s up to the modder to accomodate their own changes since they’re the one forcing it on the software

Which is why if you’re going to use bigger sprites you need to know how to change the sprite offsets and rendering code

[brittle barn]

A quick question guys. So I ordered my Penc ver. 4,5,0 and planning to mod it. So in theory its possible to write ver. 1,2,3 bin into the ver. 4,5,0 yes since they have the same hardware right? And what about the Godzilla x Digimon device? Can we mod it just like DMC?

[fierce saddle]

You can put whatever PenC bin you have onto another PenC (not included the unreleased 6 & 7). As for the Godzilla DMC, you can modify sprites but modifying other things like attribute, power, attack sprite and such will require HEX editting the BIN file and as far as I know the addresses and structure are not yet in the modding guide.

[vital epoch]

Oh I think I figured out the godzilla stats structure, some of the fields are assumptions atm but lmk if you'd want them anyway

[brave steppe]

This is unrelated to penc+ so any further discussion should probably happen on the modding channel, but since I have it on hand I'll just post the Godzilla data structure as I have it labeled

0x14cc8 is the address in imhex

The random encounter parts aren’t easily adjusted without having all the corresponding data tables they index written out

If I get around to it I can make a hex pattern

[weak jolt]

Will it be plans for a DMC mod? for more digimon storage like the PENC? 👀

[brave steppe]

Yes

All I’ll say for now is when my next mod is released the tides will have turned and people might be wanting to play DMC over PenC lol

[muted flint]

https://tenor.com/view/phone-ko-chumna-bhuvan-bam-rafta-rafta-khush-hona-phone-ko-kiss-karna-gif-27489884

[sharp pewter]

Which is why I'm keeping from selling mine. And I need that money.
It's all on you. You have a big responsibility. xD

[weak jolt]

Oh god....so i better buy another one!? :'v

[covert kernel]

Finaly, i'll have some use for my DMCs... Xross Wars Battle mode, maybe?

[livid yoke]

sorry how can change from Japanese to English?

version Godzilla 70th Edition

[crisp adder]

Sorry but, this not the thread for it, please ask at #modding_vpets

[dreamy ledge]

You will mod in a level up system like on the dmx? 😱

[novel lily]

So cool

[foggy sierra]

Please review server rules, asking for bin files is not permitted here.

[zealous zenith]

question! are DMC MH in the scope? or just OG DMC? i know MH ones are slightly different...

[brave steppe]

The initial mods are targeted for the og DMC but eventually my plan is to support all modern color devices. It will just be a longer wait

[tranquil escarp]

Man, all I've ever wanted for DMC is expandable rosters and editable Evo conditions.

Super excited to see what's up!

[brave steppe]

I think you’ll like what’s coming

[tranquil escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-tableslam-gif-10539229

[dreamy ledge]

Okay.. how do we support so you go full time on this project? XD

[brave steppe]

I shouldn’t make any promises, but I will say it is a realistic possibility that you will be making a custom roster within 2025

[brave steppe]

I do have a ko-fi lol

[dreamy ledge]

Within the year?! Alright.. time to buy a dmc. Only have zilla and monhun xD

[brave steppe]

It’s a big project, bigger than even the roster expansion

At least the first part could be out by the end of the year

[dreamy ledge]

Gimme the link. I will throw you some coin, once I'm back home!

[vital epoch]

if you hit the jump to top button it's in the original post

[dreamy ledge]

Thanks 👍

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @vital epoch (current: #56 - 39)

[brave steppe]

I appreciate it

While I’m here I’ll give a little more detail and say that part of this project is an accompanying piece of software that will replace the need for other tools to do any sort of modding with these devices

Except maybe the programming to flash aspect

Since that’s probably best to still be done by AsProgrammer or xgecu

But everything else from modding to patching will be handled

Eventually for all devices current and future

This should make building custom rosters relatively user friendly

And will also enable sharing rosters without having to share bin patches

[dreamy ledge]

I haven't done any modding as of yet, but making it less of a hassle sounds great :)

[tranquil escarp]

havnt touched the programmer practicaly since the second wave came out

made a V6, more or less

[brave steppe]

The hardest part is making it so managing a large roster and all its branching conditions is relatively simple for the end user. I don’t want it to be a tedious process. I hope when it’s released people will find I succeeded there

[tranquil escarp]

is there any sort of ,,, visual front end to it? or is it gonna be like,,, a text file sorta thing?

[brave steppe]

Oh, that’s what I meant by the accompanying software. It’s a visual editor. I call it in my mind dmc studio

[dreamy ledge]

I hope so too. I am trying to create my own roster from time to time and wanted to replace the zilla roster, but if your project works, that will be a game changer!
I heard Evo conditions are not easy to change

[brave steppe]

But I will probably give it a different name on release lol

[tranquil escarp]

ooooooooohhhhhhhhhh

thats exciting

[brave steppe]

It’s a big part of the project. Going into this I realized it just wouldn’t work without having such an editor. Otherwise it’s just too annoying to build a roster

[brave steppe]

Yes, the evo conditions are all hard coded in so the way evo works had to be adjusted to be data driven. My current system is especially customizable, allowing virtually any variable tracked in ram to be used

But like I said, the roster expansion is just one part of this mod, so that’s why it’s taking a while

[dreamy ledge]

That's absolutely okay. Good work takes some time. 👍

[weak jolt]

OOOOHMYYYYYGAAAAAAWDDD!!!

[brave steppe]

I appreciate everyone’s patience and support through the development. I know I don’t post a lot of updates but that’s mainly because I don’t want everyone to get too excited and then have to wait a while lol. I can only work on things in my free time so it goes slow, but it is coming along. I have a certain standard of quality I want to achieve before I release and I think you’ll all appreciate it even though it takes a while. But I’d say there will probably be more info about it before the end of the year

[dreamy ledge]

Getting excited is kinda torture xD
But I like the way you think! You do quality work!

[brave steppe]

Thanks, and I apologize for torturing everybody with this latest info drop lol

[dreamy ledge]

Not at all. Now I have to get a dmc before you release anything. Imagine shadow dropping and I can't use your mod! XD

[muted flint]

More like spoiling us
I'm sure we're all excited for this "digi-present" to be released
Thank you for your time

[zealous zenith]

Kurozatou the goat

thank you for all your effort

[subtle gull]

just curious but do you have an ETA for this?

[vapid yacht]

I just got my first PenC and modded it with PenC+ and He finally gonna roll back to DMC 😆

[brave steppe]

PenC+ is feature complete so no need to worry. DMC is in a much greater need for attention now as its default state is imo the worst modern vpet.

But I hope to fix that

[vapid yacht]

I understand that. It's just funny cause I was only modding DMC until the other day when I got my first PenC. ( I only bought it because of the lack of mods for the DMC. Lol. I just found it ironic) either way I'm happy and grateful for your your massive undertaking .

[crystal vortex]

Specially the DMC MH

[brave steppe]

I have to agree, the MHC feels somehow even more basic. At least it does have names implemented

[subtle gull]

so question if im looking to get a DMC should i go classic or DMGodzilla

are there differences in modability?

[tranquil escarp]

@tm Godzilla isn't very moddable (if at all?) while DMC is (and will be even more so soon I hear)

But on their own merits, vanilla, Godzilla is heralded as one of the best

[brave steppe]

DMC if you want mods sooner. Godzilla if you want a better device as is

I don’t plan to do any specific plus mod for Godzilla but I might be able to port the dmc roster expansion to the crossover devices. But it would play just like a normal dmc, not the Godzilla version

[subtle gull]

what makes godzilla a better device?

@tranquil escarp see question above^

[tranquil escarp]

Sorry for the lazy answer,

https://youtu.be/MJmjo2MbNQ8?si=ROTZQ0SNbJByU4S5

A couple new mechanics, cool progressive background, new training game, new stat to interact with that affects your evolution.

General je ne sais quoi of the thing.

[subtle gull]

no worries i am going to check it out

[scarlet oak]

for the dmc+ mod, would you also do something for the crossover ones or would it just be the basic dmc?
asking as someone who got the dmh cuz monster hunter is my favorite franchise ever lol

[brave steppe]

I can't really say a whole bunch right now but yes, I do plan to support the monster hunter version in some capicity, although it likely will be just a port of the dmc mod to the device rather than added plus features for the specific monster hunter firmware

it'll all become more clear later on when I have more to share, but for now I will say that crossover owners will likely get to have some fun too

[scarlet oak]

nice

and yeah fair

just getting to take my zino garurumon out back behind the shed instead of hoping it gets injured a bunch in combat would be nice lol

[livid yoke]

yeah. I’m really looking forward to that. Instead of having to hunt down the DMC versions I missed, I could just play them on the GZ. I hope it becomes a reality soon

[scarlet oak]

yeah that'd be really nice

[gleaming ether]

Hi , i just modded my penc , but having trouble to enter the debug mode with A+B+C and B+C after reset

trying to enter to check all the sprites

[tawdry nova]

I want a windguardians cut-in, please

[brave steppe]

Is your device plugged in? It needs to be charging for the button code to work

[brave steppe]

Check https://discord.com/channels/761581682686951455/1357322502010966116.

[gleaming ether]

Thanks ! i figured out

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #45 - 50)

[brave steppe]

I went on a side quest to add a feature to my upcoming dmc mod that I wasn’t sure was possible when I started

But after a good amount of work I managed to achieve it

#modding_vpets message

[tranquil escarp]

That's absolutely insane!

What sort of silliness did you have to attempt to accomplish that feat?

Is there no risk to either device due to the voltages etc? Isn't that why they were incompatible in the first place?

[brave steppe]

A lot of silliness lol. The original connect code uses an interrupt handler and timer to handle this on the rom but I had to handle the receive code from flash without the benefit of interrupts so it was a lot of trial and error.

There’s no debug functionality when doing these mods so I had to build a whole system that would report errors and timings on the status screen using error codes I devised to slowly hone in on the correct timings. It was like whack a mole, every time I fixed one thing another thing stopped working.

And then after many hours and adjustments only for it to fail every time, when I finally got it working it was actually kind of shocking lol. My dmc and dmx were suddenly battling and that was that.

I noticed immediately though that despite similar appearances the animation on the classic devices and the dmcs were actually not in sync so I studied the old devices and created a new animation that was timed right

As for voltages, I don’t believe there’s any risk with the modern classic devices. I have done a lot of testing there and I haven’t had any problems. That said there may be some voltage issues with the og ones. I’ll have to do some more testing.

[muted flint]

Bless thee, Kurozatou, for your time 🙏

[vital epoch]

Amazing stuff, I'm always blown away with your mods!

[pure fog]

Communication with the originals is crazy. Now just some randomness to the timers is really all we need for an OG 1997 vpet mod for the dmc 👀

[glass nimbus]

Ray with his one track mind

[brave steppe]

Seems doable. How exactly did it work? Like +- 10%?

[pure fog]

Yeah more or less, somewhere around 10-15% for evolution times and heart decay times

[pure fog]

It’s all I’ve wanted since these became moddable way back then 🤣

[muted flint]

Never change, Ray

[brave steppe]

So just those three timers?

And was it consistently a set percent increase or are we talking it could be an increase/decrease of any number in that range 0-15?

If you can give me all the exact details of how it should work I can look into adding it to the dmc mod

[solemn flicker]

😳

we're so back (potentially)

insane work tho reverse compaability is asbolutely nutes

[pure fog]

Mornin’! Sorry, was asleep.

It’s a random increase/decrease every time the timer was called iirc. It wasn’t fixed. Part of what made the old vpets feel like raising a creature instead of a game, you couldn’t predict their exact schedule.

Like if a heart drops it re rolls the random timer for that stat

Or if it evolves it re rolls the random value for the evolution timer

We did a bit of research into it years ago - I’ll see if I can find my notes to give more details, but if memory serves one set of values was roughly a 10% random variance and one set was 20%… I can’t remember which was which though 😅

I think just randomizing by 15% each time a heart drops or it evolves is probably fine to cover all the bases though

[vital epoch]

Always surprises me that the poop timer's so exact when they clearly have some sort of random timer function going for all the other timed events

[weak jolt]

Oh my! xD
Thats amaizing!
Can the "injury for winning a battle" also be removable? :'v

[brave steppe]

In theory anything can be changed but the problem is so many of these mod ideas are personal preference. If I change one thing someone is happy and another is disappointed. That puts me in a position to make everything optional and that actually takes more work than just packing it all in together. So right now I’m aiming for the bigger ideas that will have the most impact and the smaller changes will have to come later. But I’ll definitely keep it in mind

[brave steppe]

Thanks for the write up. I think at some point down the line I should be able to integrate it but as I was saying I’ll have to make it an optional thing so it’s lower on the priority list. I’ll probably contact you again about it for more detail when I’m ready to try implementing it

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @pure fog (current: #10 - 160)

[weak jolt]

Ah i see. that a valid point. Would be a massive change and will delay the release even more :'x

[pure fog]

That tracks! No worries, definitely not a priority

Thanks for considering it at all!

[paper widget]

Hi guys
I managed to patch my bin file but I’m not sure of how it works to add the cut ins, the guide got me a little confused

[brave steppe]

The only thing you actually have to do after patching the bin is use cyanic’s sprite tool to replace the placeholder sprites. Is that the point you’re having trouble with?

[paper widget]

Yes I tried but for some reasons the tool is not running
Not even opening when I go on the .exe file

[brave steppe]

It’s a cmd line tool so you actually have to open up powershell and enter the appropriate command

[scarlet oak]

Damn that's cool

I've seen this done with dedicated intermediary or custom devices but getting it to run natively on a dmc is impressive

[paper widget]

Ow ok

I will try again then

[paper widget]

In the command for import what is <InDir> ?

[brave steppe]

That’s the name of the folder where you keep all your sprites

It’s basically the folder you exported

The procedure is: export sprites -> replace the placeholders with your cut-ins, making sure they have a name matching the placeholder (so like 824.png, etc.) -> import that sprite folder back into the bin

[paper widget]

Ah yes thanks it’s export first

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #44 - 52)

[paper widget]

For some reasons it says digimoncolorspritetool is not recognised 🤷🏻

[brave steppe]

You have to actually write the full exe’s file name in that part. So you’d want to make sure the command line window is set to the same directory as the exe and then write <sprite tool file name>.exe

I know it’s kind of confusing if you’ve never used a cmd line program before.

Fwiw I’ll be releasing my own app soon that will be able to do the sprite replacements with a standard visual interface

[paper widget]

Yes it’s good for that part now
The issue I have now is it says my bin file doesn’t exist

So the tool I guess run but can’t find the bin file even if the directory seems to be right

[brave steppe]

Is the bin in the same directory?

[exotic bridge]

Hello everyone, do you have any video tutorials?

[weak jolt]

I dont think there is.

[paper widget]

Yes everything is in the same folder to make thinks easier

[tame harbor]

@paper widget has leveled up! (5 ➜ 6)

[paper widget]

If I use the online app for the sprites I guess is not gonna work

[brave steppe]

Send me a screen shot of your folder structure and I’ll send you the exact command to use

[paper widget]

I will try it again probably this weekend

[dull kraken]

messaging to bookmark this for later

[fair echo]

Where did you get that shell

[vapid yacht]

Anyone know how to enter debug with PENC+ I read the guide said we could do it without soldering the board, but I didn't see where it says to enter it. From what I gather it needs to be plugged in charging, But that all I know.

[muted flint]

Seems it needs to be plugged in according to this
#1356613481532489892 message

[vapid yacht]

Yeah...That's the only part I do know...lol

[muted flint]

Seems to still be a+b+c while plugged in
Here's the vid
#1356613481532489892 message

[vapid yacht]

Lol saw the post for plugging it in then a+b+c then B+C...

[muted flint]

Must be another factor i guess?
Last thing i can think of is maybe the cable you are currently using is not a data transfer cable?
Either way, hope someone can provide you with a better answer 🙏

[vapid yacht]

Thank you. I'm just gonna raise my Digimon the old fashion way for now then. I'm Testing out sprites. No big deal. it will give me more time to ponder new designs

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @muted flint (current: #281 - 6)

[brave steppe]

If you have it plugged in and you’re doing the correct button code then the only other factor would be which screen you’re doing the code on. Go check cyanic’s twitter post again as I believe it specifies the screens as well

[fresh grail]

looking forward to DMC+ too

[novel lily]

Why this is failed?

and where is colorspritetool.exe?

[vapid yacht]

Someone correct me if Im wrong, but the fact that the folder says-master tells me you downloaded the wrong link...

[novel lily]

what

oh, god

this is alright?

[tame harbor]

SHINKA!

@novel lily has evolved into Adult!

[vapid yacht]

DigimonColorSpriteTool.exe export-preset [options] <romPath> <version> <outDir>

[novel lily]

oh, succes

but no extract + files and cut in presets

succes

thank you for your help

[vapid yacht]

Try reading over this if you get stuck. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1teXNZXDRwKKxXo6cZYTn0JE5marMhQUet6WxMmo3lFs/edit?usp=drivesdk

[novel lily]

I doing read this page. but little hard to understand 🙁

[novel lily]

but okay. It's done

[vapid yacht]

Yeah I noticed you speak a different native language.

[gleaming ether]

I wonder if the new album names can be reversed and added to Penc+

Along with the cut-ins shown in the album

[novel lily]

like dmcgz?

[gleaming ether]

I believe dmgz does not have album names right now. I like how the new penc names are displayed. Like how penz and dmx way of displaying.

[paper widget]

I have I little problem
I manage to patch my NSo to PenC+ but my clean vanilla NSp doesn’t work when I run the program to patch it

[brave steppe]

Perhaps it was a bad dump. I’d recommend dumping a new bin following the process in the guide

[paper widget]

The dump seems good because the app to mod the sprites says the file is good

[brave steppe]

Are you referring to the web app?

[paper widget]

Yes

[brave steppe]

That has less strict requirements for considering a dump clean. I’d still recommend flashing that bin back to a device if needed and following the guide’s process for getting a clean dump, just in case. If that still doesn’t work we can try the next step in troubleshooting

[paper widget]

So you say that I should write that bin who is supposed to be a good one, back to my device and dump it again ?

[brave steppe]

Write the NSp back to a device, reset the data, turn the device off immediately after the reset by holding down C, and then read the bin back to your pc

[paper widget]

Ok I will try tomorrow

[quasi wigeon]

Getting a bit ahead of myself: we will see Sayu Warriors and Toho Braves with the plus mod?

[gleaming ether]

I would like to see some new features in SW/TB to be added to the plus mod though

I mean if thats even possible

[brave steppe]

For the time being I’ve moved on from PenC+ to work on my big DMC mod. When that’s complete I’ll be moving back to PenC development.

I can’t promise to keep supporting new penc versions with the plus features because each version adds complexity and maintaining just the six versions as it is has been challenging. Bandai keeps pumping out new ones too with subtle differences making things more difficult. I may adapt it for these new pencs but they might be the last ones. At the very least, future plus versions will come out slowly and only after I’ve completed my higher priority projects.

What I plan to do instead (and am currently doing for dmc) is create a modding platform that will allow you to customize your roster and features and that will be eventually brought to every single color vpet released, no matter the version. From there you could build your own versions of SW/TB with plus features. That’s the best compromise I can think of

[muted flint]

Thank you for your hard work and efforts

[tranquil escarp]

How's the DMC progress coming along?

[brave steppe]

Unfortunately I won’t have anything to release before the end of the year. The recent time spent developing the color to classic battling as well as my foray into reverse engineering the dmog definitely contributed to the delay. But I think the mod will be overall better for it.

I’ve learned my lesson though about making release projections so for now all I’m gonna say is the first version will be released in 2026. Any date more specific than that won’t be announced until it’s practically ready to release

I’ll likely release other kinds of project updates though, maybe even some videos when I have something flashy to show lol

[paper widget]

Does your reverse compatibility between color and og will work with devices already patched as PenC+ ?

[craggy ravine]

Help I can't get the sprite tool to work it just keeps saying command not found

[brave steppe]

It hasn’t been developed yet for PenC, that’ll come after I release the dmc one

[brave steppe]

Post a screenshot of your terminal when it says that

[craggy ravine]

Feel like I need it explained to me like I'm 5

[brave steppe]

So because you’re using windows you need to write the full name of the sprite tool exe. Should be DigimonColorSpriteTool.exe

Also make sure you have the bin in that same folder

[craggy ravine]

i tried like that too and yes they are in the same folder don't get what im doing worng

[brave steppe]

It actually is telling you what to do at the very bottom

Where it says “Suggestion”

I missed it the first time too

[craggy ravine]

Ok it has exported them now but there are only 759 of not 837?

[tame harbor]

SHINKA!

@craggy ravine has evolved into Baby I!

[brave steppe]

If you used the same command as you did in the screenshot I don’t know why it wouldn’t work

The only thing I could think of is for some reason it didn’t actually patch it with PenC plus

[craggy ravine]

no i did it how the hlep told me well at least i think

[tame harbor]

@craggy ravine has leveled up! (0 ➜ 1)

[brave steppe]

That’s not the same command as what you used in previous screenshots. Basically just write exactly what you did here #1356613481532489892 message

but this time put a .\ before “Digimon”

[craggy ravine]

Ok that worked I feel so dumb like explain it like I'm 5

[craggy ravine]

Thank you soo much

[brave steppe]

Glad you got it working 👍

[craggy ravine]

@brave steppe brilliant it's working thanks again

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #40 - 55)

[vapid yacht]

@brave steppe Would you be willing to take on Students, more directly in the topic of the DMC/PENC+ ? I'm willing to learn and send hours dabbling in Hex code...

[tame harbor]

@vapid yacht has leveled up! (8 ➜ 9)

[brave steppe]

I’ve considered something like that but i don’t currently have the time to both work on the mods and teach it. Maybe when I’ve finished all the projects I have going on right now

[vapid yacht]

That's fine too. Any good leads to dip my toes in the mean time? I'm a dabbler so I don't mind getting my hands dirty.

[brave steppe]

I guess I’d give advice based on someone’s current skill level with this kind of thing. Do you have any experience with embedded systems?

[vapid yacht]

Umm no I don't even understand the term, but I used to edit the hex code on SSBB just for fun...

[brave steppe]

What was your process for editing the hex code? I’m trying to gauge where that’d place you experience-wise.

Do you know what assembly programming is?

In order to understand the code you’ll want to be able to at least read C code and have a familiarity with the core ideas of Assembly

[vapid yacht]

Nope, but I found my lead lol.

[brave steppe]

Yeah definitely start there lol

These devices were coded originally in C which then was compiled into assembly and then that was turned into machine code. The hexadecimal numbers you see in the bin is the machine code. It’s pretty easy to turn that into assembly, but automatic decompilation is a bit rough. Therefore, while it’s very useful to view the decompiled C code, you need the assembly knowledge to get the whole picture

[vapid yacht]

Basically reverse engineering back into C so you know what should be written in Hex?

[brave steppe]

Yeah, although you wouldn’t write the code in hex. You’d write it in either C or assembly

Unless you’re just changing a single integer or something

[vapid yacht]

Makes sense 🤔 but with my history with coding I know its one of those easier said then done scenarios...

[brave steppe]

This guide helped me out with the assembly used for the cpu chip on the color devices. You don’t need to understand everything in it, but if you don’t understand any of it that’s a good goal to work toward

I’ll be honest, reverse engineering can be quite a challenge. I don’t really know what the path would look like for starting from square one as I never attempted it until I already had a decent amount of CS experience

Basically any computer science learning is good for this. Reverse engineering calls for a variety of skills that fall under that umbrella

[vapid yacht]

Thank you that it much appreciated. It's a lot, but it's the real deal and that something. I'm not gonna learn this in a night but it's for sure something I will look into. This and the Digimon Pico Terminal...Its time to step up my game lol.

[brave steppe]

You don’t need a whole degree though. There’s a certain amount of skills that’ll be enough, but it’s hard to say what exactly it is. Assembly and C is basically the best I can reduce it to

[brave steppe]

The benefit of doing this is you walk away with valuable skills that can be applied to a bunch of other things, so if you’re willing to put in the effort you’ll definitely get something out of it

[vapid yacht]

just realized there is no :determined: reaction in any of Discord Channels, But that was my reaction to your message,

[gleaming ether]

Is this a bug ? I can’t seem to jogress them even though it is stated in the evolution chart. Anyone can help ?

[vapid yacht]

you have the wrong one you need Arcturusmon

[brave steppe]

Oh wow you’re right

[gleaming ether]

oh thanks

hahah user error

[brave steppe]

I’m glad we got that figured out lol

[vapid yacht]

evolve your Regulsmon 1+ Condition Hearts, 15+ Battles, 80%+ Win Ratio and try again and it should work.

@gleaming etheryou will get Proximamon when done correctly.

[brave steppe]

To anyone who recently got the new PenCs and wants to fix that training bug that's been discussed lately, here is a simple fix for the time being:

For Saiyuu Warriors go to 0xC502
For Toho Braves go to 0xC492

Then paste this hex code over what's currently there:
18 97 9e 0c 18 97 21 0d

That should fix it

[distant sparrow]

I've got a shorter one.

Offsets:
Saiyu Warriors: 0xc502
Toho Braves: 0xc492

Hex:
18 97 9e 0c 18 97 21 0d

[brave steppe]

There's no practical difference for the user except the microseconds it takes to highlight the extra hex before copying, but I'll go ahead and edit my post for consistency

[gleaming ether]

Is that the logo for traited egg ? I used the retire function and don’t know if is a traited egg

[brave steppe]

Yes, that’s the indicator for a traited egg. The green arrow indicates it has the shake bonus.

[gleaming ether]

Okay thanks !

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #39 - 56)

[mystic lion]

Hello Kurozatou. I have a question. As far as I know, you're the one who knows the PenC binary file structure best.
Currently, Pendulum versions 6 and 7 are not compatible with existing Pendulums.
If I put the version 6 or 7 binary on an older device, it will run, but the accelerometer sensor won't work, making training recognition impossible. Also, if I put the older version binary file on a version 6 or 7 device, it freezes as if it's experiencing severe lag.

I believe this is due to differences in the SMD Quartz Crystal component. However, I'm not sure if this directly affects the code within the binary.

Is there any code related to this component within the Pendulum binary file? As far as I know, this component controls the device's CPU clock.

[brave steppe]

It actually doesn’t have anything to do with the quartz crystal. The issue is that they use different ram addresses for the accelerometer data. The code that handles the accelerometer and references these ram variables is stored in the cpu rom, not the flash bin, and therefore can’t be changed. From purely a hardware perspective all the PenC bins are capable of running on any PenC device, but this difference in rom code prevents it from working smoothly

[mystic lion]

Thank you for your kind reply. I guess there is no specific solution.

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #38 - 57)

[gleaming ether]

Does that mean that wave 1 and 2 bin files are also not compatible with 6&7 hardware ?

[brave steppe]

Yes, it’s the same issue

[tranquil escarp]

Hey Kurozatou, how plausible would a "mute while asleep" setting be?

Single worst thing about all moderns is when they evolve at 3am and announce it to the neighborhood

[brave steppe]

It’s plausible. Probably will show up first in the dmc mod I’m working on

[tranquil escarp]

that would be genuinely amazing

[candid elm]

Hello, I succesfully modded my MEm PenC. And added the cut in Sprites from the donvalleyparkway site. But the cut in always shows a weird Big Mamemon sprite. It happened for Choromon and Caprimon so far. I cant for the life of me find out what I did wrong. The Big Mame sprite is around the 420 mark in the sprites. So it should not have to interfere. The cut in sprites all seem to be right. Can someone please help me?

[vital epoch]

that's very strange, have you tried exporting the sprites from the bin file to check whether it's the bin or the write that's messed up?

[candid elm]

Thank you so much for your quick response. I found my mistake, will explain now

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @vital epoch (current: #51 - 44)

[candid elm]

So it was completely my mistake. When Exporting the Sprites I accidentally used the "numImages" for Version 1.0 instead of 1.1. stupid oversight on my end, but maybe it helps someone in the future who does the same 😉

[vital epoch]

ah that's good, glad to hear you go it fixed

now I just need to find this "thesinvalleyparkway" guy you're talking about and tell him to keep off my turf, lol

[candid elm]

😄 oh no. Sorry what a dumb typo. Fixed my original Post. Credit where credit is due. your site made this process actually acquirable for me 😉

[vital epoch]

it's all good, I appreciate a good typo, glad to hear it helped!

[novel lily]

Can I put cut-in sprite to penC 6 or 7?

I will try put in gaioumon cut-in sprite to pen C 7

[brave steppe]

PenC 6 and 7 already have a cut in feature by default and you can change the sprites for it using cyanic’s sprite tool

[spiral rover]

Excuse me, is there any way to increase the number of PEC V6 and V7 refrigerators in the existing MOD?

[brave steppe]

None of the plus features are currently available for v6 and v7

[spiral rover]

Understand and thank you

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #38 - 58)

[tame harbor]

@spiral rover has leveled up! (1 ➜ 2)

[fair echo]

Wait, you can add another digimon to raise in this mod?! So rather than one backup we can have 2 back ups? Totaling 3 digimon that can be raised on the pendulum C?!

[brave steppe]

It’s two extra backups totaling 4 Digimon

This way you can raise two jogress pairs at a time

[gleaming ether]

I found a bug with the Penc+. When u are scrolling the album, pressing B button on the ?/ registered digimon changes the whole album to more detailed instead of image of the digimon. I am unsure if this is by design or a bug tbh.

[brave steppe]

It was by design. Due to how it was programmed it basically just switches between the two modes and keeps it that way until you switch it back, regardless if you continue through unregistered digimon. It’s different than how the official vpets do it so it might feel weird, but I personally didn’t mind it so I left it as is. So in that way it isn’t a bug, but future album versions will probably be done the official way

[gleaming ether]

ah i see okay yeah it was abit weird at first

but i think is a minor issue

[brave steppe]

Also, if you were asking about it not showing cut-in sprite, that was never something in this mod

[gleaming ether]

just thought that I should highlight it if you are unaware of

[brave steppe]

Also unless I’m forgetting something you should be able to just hit the B button again to go back to the other mode

[gleaming ether]

Ah no i was'nt asking about the cut-in sprite, but will be something u will include next ?

[brave steppe]

It might be possible to include it, the main reason I didn’t originally was because not everyone used cut-ins so I didn’t want them to have to see the placeholder

[gleaming ether]

I see, understand

and it would be tough to maintain 2 branches of code as well

one with the cut-ins and one without

[brave steppe]

I already have to manage 6 different branches, one for each original PenC version

It didn’t seem necessary for this current version of PenC+

But like I said, my future mods could add that in

[gleaming ether]

Thanks alot for your effort! Appreciate it ! 🙂

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #38 - 59)

[vital epoch]

Oh I modded that into mine, I only did nso but I'd imagine it could be adapted pretty easily if you'd want a hand modding yours the same way

[brave steppe]

Did you replace the stage and type data or add the cut-ins as an extra screen?

[vital epoch]

I replaced them, I should look into getting all three in though, that could be a fun project

[brave steppe]

If you are able to achieve it feel free to post a patch here

I’ll admit I actually prefer the monochrome style of album where they only had the data and you had to earn the cut-in with a successful minigame. The cut ins looked a little better when you could never stare at them for too long lol. But seeing as how these new color versions have added it to the album I guess that’s the expectation nowadays

[fair echo]

Hey guys is this what I need?

Also what cable do I use

[brave steppe]

Yes. For the cable you’d want a length 10cm or shorter

[fair echo]

So this one?

[brave steppe]

That clip should work as long as the length is correct. I can’t tell from the screenshot

[fair echo]

Why does the cable have to be 10 cm in length

[brave steppe]

I don’t own a ch347 but I got the info from here: #modding_vpets message

[fair echo]

The only ones I can find are like 35 to 45 cm in length

[gleaming ether]

It has to do with the speed of reading iirc

If is long then u probably need to set the speed in asprogrammer to allow good reads

[gleaming ether]

Interesting. I assume this is more than just replacing sprite. You probably need to edit some instructions in the asm level ?

[fair echo]

now can i use a ch341A adaptor cable with a ch347?

[spiral rover]

ch341A is fine, but the speed is relatively slow.

[fair echo]

then what cable is best with the CH347?

[novel lily]

penc 6 and 7 has can't mod at here?

https://dmc-mod-app.pages.dev/

what the

digimon names also images??

[dire wave]

Yeah they display in the album

And on their profile

[brave steppe]

Those versions aren’t currently supported for PenC+. You can edit their sprites using cyanic’s sprite tool

[novel lily]

🙁

[novel lily]

okay

SUS

[novel lily]

How can I change attribute and attack sprite to hex patchers

[brave steppe]

that's a general modding question so you'd want to ask it on the #modding_vpets channel

[novel lily]

okay thanks

[vital epoch]

yeah it's a little bit of assembly, essentially just feeding the first sprite argument a different value, a tiny bit of maths, and moving the return up to stop it printing the other sprites

[gleaming ether]

Probably a cool project to start when I have the time

Thanks for sharing

[vital epoch]

No prob

[cedar marsh]

How can I remove the speaker from the back of the case, I'd love to make a custom color for my nightmare pen

[spiral rover]

Scrape off the melted plastic around the buzzer, and there is also a layer of double-sided tape inside.

[cedar marsh]

Thank you for that.

[paper widget]

DMCs have alternative attacks isn’t it ?
I wonder if is it possible to have the same on PenCs ?

[vital epoch]

Not without pretty major modification, it's just not in their file structure

[torpid sail]

I hope I'm not breaking the rules by asking, but could someone please share the details of these two?

[tame harbor]

@torpid sail has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[glass nimbus]

What do you mean by details?

[fair echo]

I think it was mentioned before but I don't think they're compatible with this mod yet

[torpid sail]

bin file

[vital epoch]

Sharing bin files is very much against server policy (as well as the law) and not particularly on topic for koruzatou's penc+ mod

[spiral rover]

If you just want to see what has been added, someone has already shared the picture file.

but the bin file can’t sharing

[torpid sail]

I understand, I appreciate the help

[opal timber]

Is there a link for the penc v6 and v7 files?

[spiral rover]

look modding_vpets channel

[fair echo]

Ok so is there a video tutorial for installing this mod?

[fair echo]

ill take that as a no....

[muted flint]

#1356613481532489892 message

The search feature helps

[fair echo]

i know but i meant a video dedicated to penC plus installation

[brave steppe]

There’s no video guide for that but there’s a written one

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1teXNZXDRwKKxXo6cZYTn0JE5marMhQUet6WxMmo3lFs/edit?usp=drivesdk

[odd coral]

https://dmc-mod-app.pages.dev/

Can I use this tool to mod PenC+?

[brave steppe]

I think it works for editing PenC+ but I don’t think it was ever updated to support v1.1 features

So you probably can’t use it for cut-in sprites

[odd coral]

I uploaded the bin just to test and it read it perfectly

Gonna try tomorrow since I'm going to bed now

[hallow birch]

I used it with 1.1 and I noticed on some stage 6 mons the names run over to the next Digimon in the roster (eg name displays as ShinegreymonElecmon in the stats menu)

I don't know if this is a bug from penc+, the modding website, or debug mode

It's interesting because I thought there was a character limit on Digimon names depending on which pendulum I was using

[odd coral]

That's weird but so long there's no bugs with more important stuff like how the devide works (hunger, training, battling, digievolving, etc) I don't think there's much trouble

[hallow birch]

Yup in my experience everything works great

[odd coral]

Nice! Gonna start modifying the roster once I get back from work

Do you have any kind of advice?

[hallow birch]

Since you're updating the roster, you should use a batch file renamer so you don't have to rename each png

There's 11 sprites for each Digimon so it becomes pretty tedious

Also you can change the atk animation sprite to suit the Digimon better

[odd coral]

I believe there's one on the dmcolor modding info doc

[odd coral]

Oh also, I gotta use the 48x48 sprites right?

[hallow birch]

Yeahh

Did you already get your bin file

[odd coral]

I still have it on my computer yeah

[hallow birch]

Wait I think I didn't say clearly

But I meant the attack projectile haha

[odd coral]

Oh lmao

[hallow birch]

The 48x48 is for the character but the bin should already have a bunch of attack icons you can use

I think those are 24x24

[odd coral]

yeah I'm checking them

some of these are unused?

I feel like

[hallow birch]

Yeahh seems so, I think it might be for battle against other devices?

[odd coral]

ohh true true

[brave steppe]

It’s an issue with the website. If you follow the official modding guide posted in this thread you’ll never run into that problem. I guess the way it was implemented in that app didn’t take into account the terminating character for the name string.

[hallow birch]

Ahh I see, I'll have to do that when I update my device the next time

Thanks so much for your work on this mod!

It's been a lot of fun with all the new features

My fav thing is prob the evolution timer

[shut lion]

@brave steppehi sorry to bother but on your guide its mentioned that there are placeholder portrait sprites from 817/805 onwards but i dont see any after exporting the bin file+images. are you implying that i need to make my own image id's? thanks

[foggy sierra]

Gave +1 Digi-rep to @brave steppe (current: #37 - 62)

[brave steppe]

What tool did you use to export the sprites?

[shut lion]

oh ok i got it wrong. im trying now to export the sprites through cyanics tool but the exe file crashes on boot

[brave steppe]

It’s a command line tool so it won’t work if you’re trying to launch it like a normal .exe

You have to use the terminal

[shut lion]

either powershell/terminal works? i tried both and its showing this

command not found

i saw another person awhile ago ask the same thing and i tried to follow the same instructions 😂

[brave steppe]

Did you try .\DigimonColorSpriteTool.exe

I think it needs the period and backslash

[shut lion]

didnt work either

my bin, exe and img directories are all in the same folder too

[brave steppe]

Try writing it in quotes

[shut lion]

"DigimonColorSpriteTool.exe" export penc5plus.bin 188928 837 img

like this?

[brave steppe]

Yeah but also add the period backslash before the Digimon

“.\DigimonColorSpriteTool.exe”

[shut lion]

same thing as well

ill move the folder to system 32 and try there

[brave steppe]

That’s what fixed it for that other person you mentioned so you must have a different issue then

Yeah it’s possible the path is wrong

Wait I think I see the problem

You have a > when you should have a \

After v2.3.2

[shut lion]

oh ill try that

its different now

still error though

[brave steppe]

Try just doing it as .\DigimonColorSpriteTool.exe without the quotes

[shut lion]

back to its usual self

[brave steppe]

I’d recommend starting with a blank line and start typing in Digimon and then hit tab. It should attempt to autofill the file name. If it doesn’t find the file then it’s not recognizing its existence

[shut lion]

yea its not finding the file

[brave steppe]

Also, you don’t need to put it in system32, the previous location was fine. I believe the issue was that you had the path incorrectly written as it lacked that extra backslash

[shut lion]

its ok i moved it to system 32 so the directory is shorter anyway

i allowed the exe file through firewall as well

so im not sure now

[brave steppe]

I don’t know if it’ll work at that location as it doesn’t seem to be finding it

[shut lion]

ok ill move it back

[brave steppe]

I would just put it back in its original location and type exactly what you’d written before but this time after the end of the folder name DigimonColorSpriteTool_v2.3.2 write \ instead of >

[shut lion]

OH something worked

not completely but

my bin is definitely there though. the exact name and its been plus patched

wait a minute

is it because i havent imported any sprites yet? i only have up to 804

ok nope same thing

[brave steppe]

No, it’s an issue with the path still

Here’s what you need to do

Open a new terminal and this time write cd <path to the folder>

Then once you’re running the terminal from that location enter the previous command but this time you don’t need the whole folder path before it. Just start it with .\DigimonColorSpriteTool.exe

[shut lion]

how do i start terminal in the folder location?

i cant backspace it

[brave steppe]

That’s what the cd command is for

If you type “cd” and then the folder path it’ll change the terminal to run from there

[shut lion]

same thing>

ill do the exporting command now

[brave steppe]

What’s the img thing?

[shut lion]

thats a folder i created within the spritetool folder to dump the images there 😂

should i not? LOL

[brave steppe]

Oh, maybe it’s a windows keyword. Try a different name for it

[shut lion]

not that either

[brave steppe]

Write the exact command here you’re putting into the terminal

[tame harbor]

@brave steppe has leveled up! (13 ➜ 14)

[shut lion]

.\DigimonColorSpriteTool.exe export penc5plus.bin 188928 837 empire

wait

im missing 4194304

wtf

let me do it again

[brave steppe]

Yeah I think I assumed some of it was getting cut off but now i realize you weren’t writing the sprite address

[shut lion]

idk

[brave steppe]

Rom path comes first

[shut lion]

I DID IT

im a clown i put 4194304 188928 these in the wrong places

thank you kurozatou