Legion 5 15ACH6H 3070

[mortal anchor]

Put it in

Yeah only just made the link now 🤦

I saw there was a difference

But didn't think it was importsnt

Ok I put the ram in

Its detected under 0x50

[serene grove]

in the same directory

sudo ./spd_write 2 0x50 verify.bin

and pray

[mortal anchor]

Executed.

Now restart?

[serene grove]

we can verify it again

if you want before boot

[mortal anchor]

Yep still on linux

Let's verify it

[serene grove]

sudo ./spd_dump 2 0x50 something

[mortal anchor]

I write something yeah?

[serene grove]

doesnt matter 🙂

[molten rover]

Name.bin i asume

[serene grove]

just name it something

we just going to diff it

[mortal anchor]

I didn't put .bin yh

[serene grove]

it doesnt need to have an extension

[mortal anchor]

Ok

Done

Called it goodram1

[serene grove]

diff goodram1 verify.bin

same or not?

[mortal anchor]

Is that not just going to compare the good stick with itself? Not the mod stick we flashed

[serene grove]

we can check that too

[mortal anchor]

I put it in

It didn't reply

[serene grove]

ok same then

now to diff it with 0x52

[mortal anchor]

Now dump 0x52

Ok

[mortal anchor]

No yeah I'm a fucking moron

You're right

[serene grove]

with an untested chipset i dont know how much you can go

you can still experiment with it if you feeling tech savy

[molten rover]

I think he needs ro edit timings manually to match the thaiphoon screen

[mortal anchor]

Yeah

Maybe on windows though

With thaiphoon

[serene grove]

did you diff them?

[mortal anchor]

Linux is scary and I'll have to sort out a proper boot drive

Yeah

[serene grove]

if they are same

[molten rover]

Maybe my dump gives some other info why the stick wont work anymore but the timings can work

[mortal anchor]

No reply for diff

[serene grove]

reboot time then

[mortal anchor]

Pray for me

[serene grove]

sure

[mortal anchor]

It boots boys

I'm relieved

[serene grove]

nice to hear

[mortal anchor]

Thanks for the help bruh you saved me fr @serene grove @molten rover

[molten rover]

Cihan, how did you edit the timings on your dump to match my thaiphoon screen?

[serene grove]

i used smokeless dumper

opened it on ddr4xmpeditor on windows

edited it saved it and flashed useing smokeless spd_write tool on linux

[mortal anchor]

so no compatibility between samsung and hynix?

cant believe i missed that

[molten rover]

Seems not, but you can do what cihan mentioned snd edit the timings manually in the xmpeditor

Then flash back and test

You now know all the commands to flash in Linux👀

Like a Linux GURU

[mortal anchor]

i'll need to do some research and figure out what each thing does

what should i not touch in ddr4xmpeditor?

[molten rover]

I dont know that, i havent used that myself

[mortal anchor]

well for thaiphoon then7

[molten rover]

For thaiphoon you can copy my values, everything that does nothing is still at stock values👀

I have a little self-created list on my work laptop about some values

But im not close to that machine now

[mortal anchor]

no worries

i might try throwing all your values into xmpeditor myself and seeing if it works

or maybe verse myself with hex editor and figure out how to change min cas latency myself

@molten rover how much of a difference did tweaking min cas latency even make?

[serene grove]

%1?

[mortal anchor]

thats pretty low lol

then i might just leave it

[serene grove]

actually not very low

but ignorable for me

[mortal anchor]

what would you say IS low?

[serene grove]

cas by itself if made %1 difference

that should be considered big win

[mortal anchor]

rightttt

[molten rover]

I dont know what you mean with this

I just bought thaiphoon and changed all settings 1 by 1

[mortal anchor]

if it ran then great

[molten rover]

Took me like a entire day to get to my cl18 vakues

[mortal anchor]

fair enough

[molten rover]

No idea what every setting does

[mortal anchor]

haha

[serene grove]

ive spent 2 days working to find better stabler values

[mortal anchor]

how long are you meant to test the ram for after a tweak? 2 hours?

[serene grove]

i did 2 hour runs

maybe 48 hours?

could be

you test many different timings and to decide they need to pass stability test

[mortal anchor]

alright

[sterile gale]

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md

In this guide it’s explained everything about timings

[mortal anchor]

thanks

hmm i might buy thaiphoon then, it'd be much easier on windows especially if i have to put the computer on its side

cant get bluetooth working on linux so i have to use the keyboard and shi sideways

but £23.43 is a bit steep im gna have to think about it

[formal raft]

I did 12.2k on 140w

And that was with not going outside, just iets home during autumn

[mortal anchor]

yo @serene grove i figured out how to edit min cas latency time

its a bit complicated but it takes 5 minutes to understand and ive confirmed it works by checking the new spd in thaiphoon burner free edition. actually im not sure it would work. looking in thaiphoon it says spd checksum failed on the spds where i tweak min cas latency. will have to flash it sometime and see

[mortal anchor]

hmm on second look something really weird is going on

looks like shortcuts in thaiphoon when using .spd files are bugged

[molten rover]

I read a question towards me this morning when i woke up but cant see it anymore

Is it not needed anymore?

[mortal anchor]

Yeah I realised you sent your whole thaiphoon file so I just checked that lol

[molten rover]

OK, or in your words Calm

[mortal anchor]

[river token]

sorry jumping in chat late, i got 10633 score on stock 2x16gb, and then upgraded to dual rank kingston fury and got 10770 score. i upgraded to the recommended ram from youtube videos like jarrods tech etc it was hard to find them bit dissapointed in the increased score lol im on windows 11 though, no background apps

[formal raft]

It looks like your rams was already good, as anything close to 11k on 5800h is good

[river token]

Yeah I had a feeling of that after I upgrade, which is sad because all the forums said there was a thing where legion 5s and 7s were coming with cheap slow single rank ram

If I follow the above comments and advice and push the score to 12k is that going to be visible when gaming stable fps increase ?

[formal raft]

Your stock rams must be for some reason better, you can easily refund online orders as unwanted

[mortal anchor]

Pushing it using info above is for benchmarks mostly, no way my benchmark overclock will run any game without instant crashing

But if you do scroll around a bit above you'll see some info relevant to games and yeah that'll boost in game performance by a bit

If you're on legion 5 regular 2021 3070 then flashing a 140w clevo vbios is the first step to better performance

Ask around for help on it

Reading a few messages from around here is also relevant for game performance

But you need to test overclocks using timespy to get your most stable overclock (most you can push oc numbers with no artifacts whatsoever)

[molten rover]

Not sure what you mean

[mortal anchor]

i was just replying to your comment so i could use it as a sort of link to get to to your comment easily

[molten rover]

What was your last power run again, TS link i mean

[mortal anchor]

best one?

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/85473098?

[molten rover]

Was that inside or with extra cold air?

[mortal anchor]

window

[alpine echo]

How the frock do u get such coool temps

[molten rover]

Whats your best one without extra cold air?

[mortal anchor]

did it infront of a window at 6 degrees

celcius

[mortal anchor]

not sure tbh

[alpine echo]

Oh

Coldest india gets is 19c in my region

And it's not cold

And i do 63c lol

[mortal anchor]

no link but that was at ambient

[alpine echo]

1rx8?

[mortal anchor]

run it infront of an ac

[mortal anchor]

nah 2rx8

[alpine echo]

Yeh that's how I get cool temps

[mortal anchor]

yeah thats good

[alpine echo]

But my ac is old so ifs minimum is 18c

Look at my benchmarks haha

[mortal anchor]

temp in india is crazy bro i had to sit infront of a fan or ac all trip

[molten rover]

Do a max OC run in normal ambient and sent link

That will show a good startingpoint

[alpine echo]

Haha

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/84810881?

[mortal anchor]

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/33780522 found the link

[alpine echo]

Mine at 18c

[mortal anchor]

your 5800h is cool for 18c

compared to mine at 20

[molten rover]

Ok, thats on 150w i assume

[mortal anchor]

140w

[alpine echo]

Yeh

Where do u live?

[molten rover]

Awesome score

[mortal anchor]

uk

[alpine echo]

My coolest on 18c was 70c

[mortal anchor]

[alpine echo]

But with old ram, pushing lower frames so lower hest

Heat

[mortal anchor]

true

[molten rover]

Ok, your average speed is 1782 so you should go a little bit lower.

• Your core that it gets to 1755 at .837

[mortal anchor]

wait thats at max oc with artifacts

dyu want the max stable oc

[molten rover]

No this should be good

What your stock speed at .837

[mortal anchor]

1650

yeah 1755 will be fine

[molten rover]

Awesome, so for game stable you do a +105 core and +500 mem

Then the cutoff at .837

Im expecting that to be game stable without artifacting

Make that curve and test in SOTTR benchmark

If stable in SOTTR then its like stable everywhere👀

[mortal anchor]

for now ive been running +150 (no curve) with no artifacts or crashing in games for a week now

should i still drop to 105?

or does cutoff curve affect stability in some way?

[molten rover]

If you are OK with that then go ahead

Im expecting what i suggested to be better then stock score but cooler temps

But if what you mentioned is stable and you are pleased with perf/temps just use that

Cutoff limits voltage to that point , so should yield better temps

[alpine echo]

And same perf

[mortal anchor]

i'll try both then, thanks

[molten rover]

Nice thing of SOTTR testing, it gives a bit better visual of actuall FPS profit compared to TS

[river token]

Mine is a legion 7 5800h, 3070, 2x16gb fury 2rx8. Thankyou I'll look through the comments more, I did notice the bios from clevo, I have seen that before in different forums for different laptops wasn't sure if it was stable though, I haven't researched enough how using different laptop bios works