Legion 5 15ACH6H 3070

[mortal anchor]

Benchmark score: 10950 total
CPU: R7 5800H
GPU: 3070 (140W Clevo vBIOS)
SSD: Crucial P3 (basically stock)
Memory: Stock 16Gb
Overclocks: 0.837mv cutoff curve // +170mhz core +1200mhz memory
Benchmark Type: TimeSpy
Link: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/85344101?

[formal raft]

Both on the lower spectrum. 140w should bring u close to 12k and cpu needs better ram

[molten rover]

He has ordered better ram yesterday, should be delivered today.
We are also going to help him in this thread to get max score.
@mortal anchor just did a run on my 140W to give you a idea what it can do👀
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/85382790

[mortal anchor]

CPU 82°C any ideas? I reckon the ambient was 20°C and I had the back lifted by an inch or so

[sterile gale]

Do bench outside when cold

[mortal anchor]

It was snowed up a few days ago I missed my chance

[sterile gale]

Even if it’s 5/10c it should go

[molten rover]

Im not sure about outside/inside

I tried outside in like 3c but the difference with inside was verry minimal for me

And it messed up the curves as the DB behaves different

You got shipping info it will be delivered today?

[mortal anchor]

Yhhh it's says expected delivery by the end of today

Could come a bit earlier though

[molten rover]

Time to destroy those benches

[mortal anchor]

you got concrete evidence for 522.25 being the best? im gna downgrade to it now so if not then i might as well do some benchmarks 527.56 and 522.25

and settle it once and for all

[molten rover]

No hard figures that arent within the margin if error from my side

[mortal anchor]

How'd you figure out margin of error? Just slapped 5% either way?

[molten rover]

Yeah slapped 50 point up/down on my scores

They are pretty consistent for me

[mortal anchor]

Yea that sounds good

[molten rover]

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/33734356/spy/33731386

See that for example, 2 runs at completly different times at the day, look at the GPU score, only 12 points difference

[mortal anchor]

do lucky runs exist? because i feel like ive had a couple of them

[molten rover]

Not on my side, in same situations my scores are always reasoanbly stable

[mortal anchor]

i've gone up 300 points randomly and then when i run again it drops back down to normal 300 points lower

that was just a +165mhz core oc with no memory oc and no cutoff curve

[molten rover]

Back to back runs arent good, need the system to cool down a bit between the runs

[mortal anchor]

and it's better than the benchmark run that we're posting about

[molten rover]

One thing i would like you to change though as i have been seeying some weird behaviour on mine too

Maybe you have the same as me

In NVCP change too this

[mortal anchor]

I only had that turned on for the benchmark run at the top of this thread

alright i'll change it

let me ddu to 522.25 first

[sterile gale]

I can’t do 12.1K unless I’m near the windows with 10c outside

[molten rover]

Skill issue

[sterile gale]

[sterile gale]

@mortal anchor did you install new ram?

[molten rover]

Maybe he broke his laptop

[mortal anchor]

Just done it and looks fine so far gna run the same test as last night but with this new ram

[sterile gale]

Me and @molten rover are waiting patiently for the results to come

[molten rover]

My time is up for the evening, kids to bed so time for some ps5👀

[mortal anchor]

Bruh

I just finished it

And 3dmark crashed on the loading results screen

Do I have to do it again

Lol

[sterile gale]

Yeah

[mortal anchor]

Let it cool again then I go again

Something is fucked bruh

It just doesn't want to load results

[mortal anchor]

You have any idea?

Do I need to keep steam open?

[sterile gale]

mh

OC unstable with new ram?

[mortal anchor]

I'll run it no OC just to see CPU scores

140w no oc but timetec ram

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/85414927?

ram boosted my gfx score?

cpu score any good for 2rx8?

[sterile gale]

@molten rover

[molten rover]

Its lower then i expected

Then again his CPU is at 80+ temp so that could be it

[mortal anchor]

I don't know what to say about temps bruh

Got it raised by an inch

Ambient ain't even that high in this room I reckon 18°C

[molten rover]

Did you have high rpm fans?

[mortal anchor]

4200

All the way to 4500 end

[molten rover]

Then im not sure why you have those temps men

[sterile gale]

What were your temps on cpu terror

[mortal anchor]

yeah what's it on your cpu terror

[molten rover]

This was this afternoon
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/33734356

[sterile gale]

140W?

[molten rover]

Yes, thats 140W

[sterile gale]

@thin hatch tuna what’s your max score @140w?

[molten rover]

He should be able to get 12K atleast, im sure of that

Something is off on his system

[sterile gale]

Thermals

At this point

[molten rover]

Nahhh, something else too, his temp for gpu is fine

[sterile gale]

Shit bin?

[molten rover]

Dont think so

But its hard to tell as i dont have the actuall system

[mortal anchor]

How would you tell if you did have it

I'll run it with yesterday's oc again and hope the run actually finishes

Had to take oc off completely for run to finish

[molten rover]

Uhmmm, i would first try to check why the cpu temp seems so high, could be its a L5 thing though, i have a 5P

[sterile gale]

L5 and L5P should have the same thermal solution

I have 80c at 4.6 ghz at 120W

And GPU is 50c when I open the windows with 10c outside

Or 60c indoors with 20c temp

I mean it could be a little for L5P

But on L5 it’s not shit either

[mortal anchor]

tomorrow in the morning when the house is freezing i'll bench it and see whats good

[thin hatch]

I really don’t remember. Didn’t keep track. Probably low 12s. I also didn’t push OC nearly as much when I had 140w. I already had 150 when I had very cold ambients as well as IETS.

[mortal anchor]

legendary score broke 12k gpu on cutoff curve +170 +1100 boys could push the OC some more didn't see any artifacts

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/85431151?

cpu is looking very peak though

i'll run in the cold in the morning but i don't think ambient will do anything

air coming out of the sides at 4500 rpm cpu bench is pretty cold

so i feel like i got shit ptm on the cpu

or bad heat transfer somewhere

but ngl im not tryna open my shit up down to the heatsink

[sterile gale]

https://discord.com/channels/761178912230473768/1054945038368522332

[sterile gale]

Yeah that's low

mh

[mortal anchor]

what core and mem oc you run on the 3070?

trying to gauge headroom i have left

very inaccurate gauge but

[sterile gale]

I don't have a fixed core OC unfortunately, every point in the V/F curve has different values ranging from 255 to 260

memory is +500

I have micron

[mortal anchor]

500 is good for micron though right

thought that shi was doing well for itself at 300

[sterile gale]

i'm stable at 485

[mortal anchor]

😭

[sterile gale]

samsung VRAM are stable at +800

there are some with +1300

[mortal anchor]

dropped down from 1200 to 1100 and i could reach the results screen

fucked tbh i finished the whole benchmark fine on 1200 just the results part wud crash

wrong reply

[sterile gale]

did you try increase higher memory OC values and see where it peaked, right?

[mortal anchor]

yeah very roughly

went from 0 to 1200 in 100 increments

[sterile gale]

try to be thorough

[mortal anchor]

and it peaked 1100-1200 i didnt do any average runs

[sterile gale]

oh then you did good

[mortal anchor]

yeah i got all the screenshots if you really want to have a look

[sterile gale]

what's your average frequency during TS run?

[mortal anchor]

500 looked good and i was going to stop there because 600 and 700 were plateuing a bit but then 800 rocketed up

[mortal anchor]

for mem? is that written somewhere or you want a guesstimate from me because i dont have one

[sterile gale]

on core

[mortal anchor]

written somewhere or guesstimate

[sterile gale]

oh 1735

[mortal anchor]

oh its on the timespy link?

[sterile gale]

yeah

though it's low

but you got 12K so not bad i assume

[mortal anchor]

i think the ram helped legit bruh

put me up a good 300 points

at least

[sterile gale]

that's low

is it dual rank?

[mortal anchor]

low for gfx?

let me check what i have written down

[sterile gale]

300 points increase in cpu score with dual rank ram is low

[mortal anchor]

nah i meant gpu bruh

[sterile gale]

gpu is fine

more than fine actually

[mortal anchor]

yh i meant the dual rank ram boosted my gpu score i swear

[sterile gale]

[mortal anchor]

because look

[sterile gale]

yeah that's expected

[mortal anchor]

oh right

thats pretty cool then

buff

[sterile gale]

is it dual rank or not?

[mortal anchor]

yh

2rx8

dual rank

dual channel

all that shit

3200

[sterile gale]

miniterror got 800 points going from 1rx16 to 2rx8

iirc

[mortal anchor]

stock ram

2rx8

everything else the same

yh thats almost 800 points

[sterile gale]

i had 10.7K cpu score on 1rx16, got 11.7K with 1rx8 and got 12.4K on tighten ram timings on intel. So increase is 1700 points from 1rx16 and AMD is more sensitive to RAM rank and timings

[mortal anchor]

so the cpu bin i got is just mid

[sterile gale]

OH WAIT

[mortal anchor]

that or the cooling

[sterile gale]

that's good cpu score

it's almost 1700 points increase

[mortal anchor]

true true

[sterile gale]

man you're lucky

[mortal anchor]

what do you reckon my max total score could be?

[sterile gale]

omg

[mortal anchor]

just as something to set sights on

[sterile gale]

if you do benck with cold air outside and max fan, i probably think you should get at least 12.1K total

[mortal anchor]

hahahah

[sterile gale]

but i don't know if that's achievable with AMD

i'm not that informed about 5800H

[mortal anchor]

what is a good 5800h score?

oh

nws

[sterile gale]

just check miniterror scores

use search

[mortal anchor]

yeah imma search for it

yhh

what about the gpu side of things

[sterile gale]

or tuna

[sterile gale]

max achievable on 140W vbios is 12K and if you're lucky 12.1 or if your gpu bin is very good over 12.1K

12.8K is achievable with 150W

[mortal anchor]

i think i could push gpu onto 12.1k

if i got 12.064 rn with high but not max oc

[sterile gale]

i managed to push mine, but as you can see from my score, my gpu temp was 48c

[mortal anchor]

everyones temps i look at are crazy low

like you done the benchmark in the fridge or sm

[sterile gale]

43c sorry

[sterile gale]

with window open

outside is 5c

max fan

[mortal anchor]

where you from?

[sterile gale]

italy

[mortal anchor]

5 am over there?

guess

ing

[sterile gale]

almost 4

[mortal anchor]

yeah i dont know my timezones

[sterile gale]

you're UK?

[mortal anchor]

yeah

[sterile gale]

it's -1h

so almost 3?

[mortal anchor]

yeah i thought italy was way east of the +01:00 timezone

yeah almost 3

6 degrees outside right now

[sterile gale]

goooooo

[mortal anchor]

i need my sleep bruh im azombie at this point

apparently its colder after sunrise somehow so i might mess with the window then

[sterile gale]

i am a zombie and i froze myself to death

[mortal anchor]

hahaha

[sterile gale]

tomorrow i will get tonsillitis

[mortal anchor]

hope you dont

im off to bed now bruh gn

[molten rover]

Cograts, i knew it your card could do 12K+

And as you say, probably can get higher so thats above the 12.1K mark i mentioned

[mortal anchor]

WE FUCKING DID IT BOYS

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/85473098?

[molten rover]

12.4

I need 150W for thst

What was your beginning mhz again at the .700 voltage point.
I know it was higher then mine but cant remember the exact speed

Shame you cant do 150W, you would have come really high

@alpine echo @sterile gale check out the big brains here

His 140W being on par with my 150w score

@mortal anchor what have you changed up, your temps seem more in line with my temps now

[mortal anchor]

did it infront of a window LMAO

freezing my balls off but worth it

[mortal anchor]

1245mhz at 700mv

[molten rover]

Ahh yeah, the big up starting speed

So another confirmation forbmy theory with the starting speed

Really nice score men, as said, i need 150W Vbios for that GPU score

[mortal anchor]

thanks bruh

hope someone bigbrained finds a way for 150w on l5 2021

that wud go so hard

[molten rover]

You are number 15 now on GPU score sorted leaderboard of all 5800/3070 systems

[mortal anchor]

beautiful

[molten rover]

Hmm, wonder if i could get board exchange somehow amd hopefully get better binning👀

[mortal anchor]

hahahah

flash a dud vbios and say the gpu just died

[molten rover]

Im assuming they will see when they start in hybrid mode

What core/mem values did you use?
Maybe you can go even higher

[mortal anchor]

nah i maxed it out bruh

right on the edge

legit couldnt even see the benchmark anymore

just saw red

+250 core // +1250 mem

[molten rover]

Holy shit

+250

[mortal anchor]

+255 crashed the bench lol

[molten rover]

I had the same indeed when i was benching outside

Ok for gaming curve

Do a run in normal conditions amd look for your average speed

Then do the + core towards that value, and set mem on +500.
That should be safe for gaming, you can verify with sottr benchmark

[mortal anchor]

shadow of the tomb raider?

is that the endgame benchmark for games lol

[molten rover]

Correct

Its free demo version contains the benchmark too

Using that is stable for me, to give a indication, my card is 1725 at .837

[mortal anchor]

what do you mean with normal conditions? 0mhz // 0mhz oc or...?

and for average speed thats just a guesstimate right?

[molten rover]

In home, you got your top score at home at the window, that isnt normal conditions

[mortal anchor]

righttttt

[molten rover]

Do a run without top fans and stuff like that

Just normal usage but with your OC profile that stable in timespy ar those conditions

Mine gives average clockspeed in TS result of 1744, so i round it off down to 1740, nvidia dynamic boost could give 15mhz so i upped my core to have 1725 speed at the .837 voltage point

[mortal anchor]

ohhh i understand

and the regular cutoff curve at .837?

thanks

[molten rover]

Yes, still do the cutoff at .837

But just a lower speed then your bench curve

Say your bench curve is +200 and gives 1800mhz at .837, then for gaming curve you need +125 to get the 1725 at .837

[sterile gale]

Congratssss

What’s you 700 mv frequency again?

Oh 1245

Mine is 1275

So theoretically I should achieve better score than you

What curve did you use?

[molten rover]

+250

[sterile gale]

How did you do 250 and get 12.4K?

I did 260 in some points near 800 mV and I only got 12.1K

At 6c

43c gpu temp

[mortal anchor]

😭

[molten rover]

I dont know, its mental to achieve that

[sterile gale]

Oh wait Samsung memory

[mortal anchor]

yhh 1250 on the mem

[sterile gale]

I got 12.4K on 11800H does it count as well?

[mortal anchor]

5800h such a struggle ong

if i knew i wudve got the intel 11th gen one

[sterile gale]

You could have probably got a shit bin everything

Or micron vram like me

But I don’t care, I have god bin 11800H

[molten rover]

Men, his score almost make me go outside again with 140W Vbios

[mortal anchor]

im finna load this shit up at 2am tonight when its menna be 3 degrees

[sterile gale]

I told you that going outside does the job

[mortal anchor]

window strat is goated

[molten rover]

It didnt for me

[sterile gale]

The benchmark I ping you in this morning I had 1777 mhz average clock

If you saw it

[molten rover]

I spend one evening hanging with my laptop outside to pull in cold air, no difference compared to my regulair inside setup, and clocks fluctuating a lot for the OC

[molten rover]

I probably did but cant remember👀

Im not the best person in the morning

[sterile gale]

Mine was stuck at 1800 mhz all bench, except sometimes during the second gpu bench where it went to 1695

[mortal anchor]

the window solved the cpu issue for me legit cpu temps dropped from 83 average to 73 finally gave me a decent score

[molten rover]

I still think its a bit on the low side with 10.2

[mortal anchor]

what score you getting on your 5800h

[molten rover]

Then again, i have my ram OC'd

[mortal anchor]

let me just search your name

[mortal anchor]

advanced bios?

[sterile gale]

Thaiphoon

[molten rover]

Nope, reflashed spd with OC values

[mortal anchor]

whats spd

[molten rover]

The chip on the ram deciding the speeds

[mortal anchor]

crazy guy

[molten rover]

Its with a software program, not that hard to be honest

[mortal anchor]

no chance of bricking like with the bios method?

[molten rover]

The version i used is a paid program though

[sterile gale]

Thaiphoon

[molten rover]

Yes and no, you can flash values that it wont boot anymore

But you can hotswap the sticks with a stock stick and reflash back

[mortal anchor]

do you do the sticks one at a time then

like 1 stock 1 new ram

or then how does a hotswap work

[molten rover]

Thats a option

I did both at the same time

[mortal anchor]

does swapping ram out while system is on not crash it?

[molten rover]

I had my laptop open like that, if i flashed values that didnt boot i did the hotswap procedure to flash them back to booting values again

[molten rover]

Nope, boot with only 1 stock stick, while system is running put in one of the broken sticks and flash it back, then do the other broken stick

[mortal anchor]

ohhhhhhh

[molten rover]

Because you booted with 1 working stick thats all that is being used by windows, the 'defective' stick can be flashed but isnt utilized by windows

[mortal anchor]

yeah i get that

sounds cold

[molten rover]

Stock we have cl22, i have mine running at cl19 currently

Max i can get is cl18

[mortal anchor]

you use gskill or what it was called

[molten rover]

Upped my CPU score by about 400 points, almost hitting 11K in cpu score in TS

Nope i have same as you, timetec

[mortal anchor]

shiiiit

[molten rover]

I would almost say that you could use my 'safe' cl 19 settings

[mortal anchor]

yeah thats what im thinking

how much is the software

[molten rover]

26 euro or something close to that, its a 1 year subsciption though wich i bound to your mobo serial

[mortal anchor]

ooooh thats crazy

[molten rover]

Cihan also has tt kit, his kit is close to my cl18 values

He started with my cl18 as base but needed to up a little bit

[mortal anchor]

up in a good way or a bad way

[molten rover]

Also, how are your linux skills?

[mortal anchor]

all i know about linux is how to spell linux

[molten rover]

Bad, he is still cl18 but one notch doen

[molten rover]

Ahh, one of the big brains here made a version of that spd flash for linux wich is free

Thats how cihan flashed

[mortal anchor]

linux has basically no gui right

[molten rover]

Linux has gui but the specific tool im talking about is command line indeed

The price is fixed, for some 26 euro is a lot of money

Bur your in pounds, it like 20 pounds i think?

[mortal anchor]

20 pounds is still pretty high tbh

whats so hard about the linux way?

genuinely lol

[molten rover]

Uhmmm, you gotta have some basic knowledge i assume and have linix dualbooted on your system

I could probably do myself, but cant decide for others how there skill to learn it is

[mortal anchor]

you know a good amount about linux?

just gauging how hard it would be

[molten rover]

Uhmmm, i know a small bit

[mortal anchor]

i reckon i could get it done with a couple days of research

r&d

[molten rover]

Cihan is way better in regulair Linux then me though

He could probably guide you

[mortal anchor]

hopefully

whats the software called on linux?

[molten rover]

@serene grove could you help him out and guide the men through smokeless his spd flasher?

He has TT like us and AMD system so should work👀

[mortal anchor]

🤞

[molten rover]

If he has the time for it i can sent you my cl19 file wich i assume will work.

As cihan and i can do cl18

[mortal anchor]

any way to back up the og spd?

incase i fuck something

[molten rover]

Yes, you first dump it in linux, then load it in windows in a tool and edit values, then go back to linux and flash the edited values

[mortal anchor]

righttt

[molten rover]

https://www.softnology.biz/

This is the paid tool

All from windows and way easier

[mortal anchor]

to buy that one is it crypto only?

nvm i cant read theres an option

[molten rover]

Does it show pounds price for you?

Nvm, it was usd price of 26

Been a while since i got it

[mortal anchor]

yeah its £23.43

a tad bit steep tbh

crypto a bit cheaper but i dont have the facilities for crypto

£23 is a decent day out with the boys lol

[molten rover]

Ahh, another dad

I know what you are saying, dad of 2 boys too

[mortal anchor]

unfortunately not mate

[molten rover]

Ahh, the boys as in friends

My bad

[mortal anchor]

oohhhh

i see the confusion

LMAO

my bad

forgot youre not from the UK

shiii i feel bad now

[molten rover]

My rubbish english should tell that

No worries men

[mortal anchor]

not even rubbish bruh its just a niche slang term for friends haha

didnt even think of it as a father way

thats on me

[molten rover]

Anyway, just wait for Cihan then.

[mortal anchor]

yeah i'll try figure out what i can on my own

[molten rover]

He might be willing to help you out on the linux stuff

[mortal anchor]

we'll see haha

thanks for the information and the plug bruh

[molten rover]

Let me find the github repo from the limux tool

Maybe it has a proper readme

https://github.com/SmokelessCPUv2/Linux-SPD-RW#readme

No readme though

Cihan has helped some one else, if you search the discord here you might find it and see the commands and stuff how to get it done

[sterile gale]

Helped me

But it doesn’t work on intel

@serene grove gigachad can you help this guy with custom timing with the smokeless cpu tool for Linux?

[mortal anchor]

i dont have any flashdrives to dualboot linux from

i have a shit ton of hdd enclosures though you reckon they'll do?

cud go out and buy a flashdrive but pain

[molten rover]

I assume so

[mortal anchor]

we'll find out in a few minuts

[sterile gale]

I think you can use live usb

I have a full dual boot windows 11/manjaro

[mortal anchor]

is manjaro the way to go for this?

[mortal anchor]

bruh linux looks hella scary

[mortal anchor]

so i've got my spd from the freeware thaiphoon

all i need to do is put your cl19 values into ddr4xmpeditor

then go into linux and flash it?

and then test it on prime95?

[sterile gale]

Nope, thaiphoon has its proprietary spd file

You need to extract in a format ddr4xmpeditor can read

The only thing is smokeless cpu tool with read command

[mortal anchor]

yeahhh ive slowly figured it out

[mortal anchor]

if youre at your laptop cann you send over all the cl19 shit i need to change? much appreciated

[sterile gale]

My timings works on intel and gskill

I’ll post terror timings

[mortal anchor]

am on timetec

amd

wait you know that already

[sterile gale]

For the instruction to flash search for ddr4xmpeditor

Wait

I’ll send link to everything

[mortal anchor]

appreciate it bruh

i cant even figure out how to install discord on this shit im using the web version

[sterile gale]

#tweakers message

Timings

Read carefully the whole discussion till cihan flashed and worked

If you fuck things, you’ll fuck up your motherboard

#tweakers message

[mortal anchor]

i aint fucking wit the bios

[sterile gale]

I advice you to be helped by cihan at least

[mortal anchor]

from what i read its just bricking ram

but im not concerned i have spare ram to hotswap

[sterile gale]

You have to read the whole discussion, there are thousand of message

[mortal anchor]

i read a good amount of it

spent a couple hours

[sterile gale]

That’s the start

[mortal anchor]

just reading and researching

[sterile gale]

[mortal anchor]

nah i searched spd into discord

went thru like 3 pages of those results

read most of those convos

but yh

i'll wait

[sterile gale]

Yeah better to wait

[alpine echo]

Lol

[mortal anchor]

yeahhh i'll just see how to execute the dump

[alpine echo]

We have pleb bin

[sterile gale]

It’s not you only brick your ram you can damage your motherboard playing with i2c

[mortal anchor]

yeahhh

if you choose the wrong bridge or some shit innit

i read that

[sterile gale]

Exactly

[mortal anchor]

i'll wait heheh

not risking the goat tier gpu bin i have

[sterile gale]

I’ll tell you something

I changed the timings too tight

Bricked

Had to buy a ch341a

Open the laptop completely

Remove everything

Reflash bios into bios chip with the flasher

I won’t change timings anymore in my life

[alpine echo]

I mean your twaakinf time is over

[sterile gale]

Yeah man completely retired

I will use my laptop again when the last of us drops

[mortal anchor]

yeah but you're one of those crazy fuckers that do the tweaking in bios

[sterile gale]

[mortal anchor]

at least if i royally fuck up this ram amazon has my back with the kit

[sterile gale]

You can fix with the non tightened ram

[mortal anchor]

yeah but from what ive seen on this server tt ram doesnt have the best reliability

like not even to do with tightening just in general

looks like their qc is shit

[serene grove]

Yes i can do it

sorry guys im late

i was sleeping

[molten rover]

No worries mate, its all just for fun and giggles

[mortal anchor]

I managed to pull a .SPD file using an app on windows

Should I still dump from Linux and compare to be safe?

[molten rover]

I would yes

As you need to be in Linux anyway for flashing

Makes you a bit more comfortable and know for sure you are writing back to the right i2c bus

[mortal anchor]

Thanks

[mortal anchor]

And also @sterile gale kindly linked me to your cl18 timings, should I risk it and start there lol

[molten rover]

Ill be at my systen shortly, i can then sent you my cl19 file

[mortal anchor]

Alright

[molten rover]

I wouldnt, it gave Cihan errors, its like the absolute best my sticks can do

Like with cpu/gpu binning there are differences when trying to find the max and no set will be alike

[mortal anchor]

Yeah, I think our sticks are a tiny bit different too. I was looking at your thaiphoon and it said you had 8 layers (idk what that means)

Checked mine and it said 10 layers

[molten rover]

And my CL18 just in case you still want it and everything is in one place

[mortal anchor]

thanks

@serene grove when are you free?

[serene grove]

now

[mortal anchor]

calm theres just one thing i'd like to ask

how do you adjust min cas latency in ddr4xmpeditor?

[serene grove]

you cant

[mortal anchor]

oh

[serene grove]

but if he sets on his

and save the spd

you can get it

[mortal anchor]

he's sent it as a thaiphoon thing

[serene grove]

yes if he now dumps his spd and give you

you can use his min cas time setting

[mortal anchor]

@molten rover

[mortal anchor]

how much of a difference would a tweaked min cas time make?

[serene grove]

i dont know

[molten rover]

Wich one do you want changed?

[mortal anchor]

need the whole spd

[molten rover]

I sent it

[mortal anchor]

any way to get it not as a thaiphoon file

[serene grove]

he cant use it

[molten rover]

Here is the full dump

[serene grove]

how did you dump?

[mortal anchor]

who me?

[serene grove]

no miniterror

[molten rover]

Just saved from Thaiphoon

[serene grove]

ah you cant use it on ddr4xmpeditor

nor flash it directly

[mortal anchor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/727089095570096211/788561019517272124/spd_check_v02_test2.zip

use that miniterror

thats how i dumped mine on windows

just to check it out

[molten rover]

What command do you want me to use?

nvm

[mortal anchor]

in that file? its an exe

[serene grove]

i will go to dinner like around 45 mins

[mortal anchor]

thats the cl19 one yh

the one youre currently running

[molten rover]

Yes

[serene grove]

cl19?

[molten rover]

Yeah, i upped my CL18 to CL19, difference is minimal in regulair usage but gives me comfort in mind im not runni it 100% all the time

[mortal anchor]

calm how do i bring that over to linux

[molten rover]

Lok a bit above, i posted timings screenshot of CL18 and CL19 how i use in daiily usage

[mortal anchor]

oh just log in on discord

ok im switching to linux

👍

[molten rover]

This guy, went from ultra low score to top scores in a few minutes and get top listed in TS overall scores

[mortal anchor]

hold on let me back up my OG spds to external hard drive

switching

i'll delete after

[serene grove]

have you checked spd if open on ddr4xmpeditor?

be sure before flashing it

ddr4xmpeditor should give no errors opening it

[mortal anchor]

Calm I'll check it

No errors

Looks alright

[serene grove]

boot linux then

[mortal anchor]

Yep

[serene grove]

on macos ive even see peope sell ntfs drivers

paragon was doing it

now its open source

[mortal anchor]

I've fucked something with this liveusb of linux

[serene grove]

ah liveusb

use linux mate xfce

[mortal anchor]

It resets every time I open it🤣

[serene grove]

its fastest booting one on me

[mortal anchor]

For next time then

[serene grove]

ah not mate its mint

[mortal anchor]

It's not even a liveusb its a live ext hdd

[serene grove]

i do all my maintenance jobs on linux mint xfce

[mortal anchor]

alr am on linux

ive loaded all the modprobes and shi

now i2cdetect?

@serene grove you there?

[serene grove]

yes

i2c-dev?

[mortal anchor]

I loaded it

[serene grove]

i2cdetect -lt

[mortal anchor]

Sudo?

[serene grove]

not needed i think

check it

[mortal anchor]

Comes up with 3 different PIIX4

How do I check each one

[serene grove]

should be same as mine imo but not being %100 sure

[serene grove]

dump 2 3 4 with sudo i2cdump 2 0x50

2 will change with 3 and 4

[mortal anchor]

understood

[serene grove]

let me boot jeneric kernel

coming

[mortal anchor]

🤝

What am I looking for?

Oh right

Only 2 has actual numbers show up

3 has XX everywhere

4 has 00 everywhere

[serene grove]

let me compare with mine

[mortal anchor]

Can you hotswap ram with Linux?

incase miniterrors spd bricks my ram

[serene grove]

i remember a option called memory hot add in linux kernel

but not sure %100

[mortal anchor]

so you just got lucky with errors and no brick when you did the SPD flash 😛

[serene grove]

have you dumped i2c-2?

[mortal anchor]

No, only what I sent on screenshor

[serene grove]

yeah its same as mine

its i2c-2

50 and 52 dump them both

and show me output

you can use my timings too

[mortal anchor]

i2cdump 2 0x50

[serene grove]

mine should be more relieved than his

[mortal anchor]

i2cdump 2 0x52

[serene grove]

yeah those are your ram sticks spds

[mortal anchor]

[serene grove]

i will send you the program now

[mortal anchor]

the smokeless zip?

i got it

[serene grove]

2 0x50 2 0x52

you have it?

[mortal anchor]

yeah downloaded and unzipped

dont know whwat to do with it though

[serene grove]

i dont remember exact commands to build it but i can guess

or i can send you the built ones

have no virus

[mortal anchor]

yes go for it

🙏

[mortal anchor]

alr i got it unzipped

[serene grove]

decompress it

[mortal anchor]

done

[serene grove]

now open a terminal on it

[mortal anchor]

whats the command in linux?

only know it on windows

[serene grove]

./spd_write 2 0x50 modded_dump.bin

change modded_dump with the name of your dump file

you just write one of the sticks at first

[molten rover]

👀

[mortal anchor]

i mean whats the command to open the directory

[serene grove]

cd

[mortal anchor]

oh so same as windows

[serene grove]

yeah

tab completes long names

[molten rover]

Cihan his dump is CL18 but a little bit closer then CL19 then mine was, fingers crossed those work for you men

[mortal anchor]

fingers crossed

[serene grove]

can you copy the modded spd to the same directory of that

[mortal anchor]

do i not need to link location path to it?

yeah

[mortal anchor]

yeah thats what i was wondrinng

[serene grove]

where is the dump file

where did you save it?

[mortal anchor]

which dump miniterrors?

[serene grove]

yeah can i see his?

i guess there was one at top

[mortal anchor]

its .spd not .bin

[serene grove]

i wanna see his relieved timings

[serene grove]

it opens on ddr4xmpedtiro isnt it?

[mortal anchor]

yeah

opened fine

[molten rover]

@serene grove

[mortal anchor]

but theh command says modded_dump.bin i can just replace that with .spd?

assume i can

so ./spd_write 2 0x50 addr50.spd

that looks alright?

[serene grove]

with sudo

[mortal anchor]

ok im executing it now

pray for me

[serene grove]

then you gonna boot windows open zentimings and check timigns of the stick

[mortal anchor]

okay

if windows boots lol

[serene grove]

use mine then

mine looks tighter but his ram still more

[mortal anchor]

Already done it lets see

[serene grove]

ok then

[mortal anchor]

Going into windows

[molten rover]

I would first try the CL19 and do memory test and see if errors come up

[serene grove]

we can flash back old timings

[mortal anchor]

How do I know which ram stick was 0x50

Will zentimings say

[serene grove]

not sure 🙂

[molten rover]

You can read them out with the free thaiphoon too, you can choose wich stick to read, the 50 or 52

[mortal anchor]

Black screen boys 🤣

Fucked it

[molten rover]

Wait a little bit

It starts with memory training

first boot can take a little while

Also i know whats wrong

derp

im so dumb to not do these things beforehand

Can you still get in BIOS?

You need advanced BIOS

[mortal anchor]

Bro whatve u done 🤣

Advanced bios is scary shit

[molten rover]

I havent done anything

[mortal anchor]

Yhh it ain't booting

Pull out the stick?

[molten rover]

You flashed your RAM

Yes

[mortal anchor]

Which one

Guess?

[molten rover]

Yep

[mortal anchor]

Lol

Give me a few minutes

[molten rover]

I showed you a pic how i had my laptop when i did it

[mortal anchor]

Yeah I seen 🤣

[molten rover]

on its side with the cover off so i could easily reacht he sticks

Anyway, we need advanced BIOS👀

Dont flash the stick bakc to stock yet

[mortal anchor]

Bios don't load

Let me pull the stick out

[molten rover]

Use other stick

[mortal anchor]

Clm clm

[molten rover]

If me i would pull both sticks and put back stock sticks to change the bios things

[mortal anchor]

How do I get advanced bios

[molten rover]

SREP

Need a small USB fat32 formatted

[mortal anchor]

I don't got a USB 🤣

Only got hard drives

[molten rover]

Assume you can use another drive for that

As long as its fat32 formatted

[mortal anchor]

Calm let me just see which ram stick I fucked

[mortal anchor]

I meant what did you mean by this

[molten rover]

You need some settings changed in Advanced BIOS or the stick wont work with the flashed timings

It got me screwed up once when iflashed BIOS and those settings reverted back to stock

Hence the "i am so dumb" to not remember that sooner

[mortal anchor]

Shud I dump my OG bios first

Just in case

[molten rover]

No, not needed

[mortal anchor]

Calm you got a link to advanced bios anywhere?

[molten rover]

https://github.com/SmokelessCPUv2/SREP-Community-Patches

Download the file for your system from that one

[mortal anchor]

Oh right

[molten rover]

https://github.com/SmokelessCPUv2/SmokelessRuntimeEFIPatcher/releases/tag/0.1.4c

[mortal anchor]

So hopefully with this advanced bios shit I don't need to flash the stick back to normal?

I guess we'll see

[molten rover]

Did you flash my CL19 or Cihan his CL18?

[mortal anchor]

The dump you sent

[serene grove]

he flashed yours

we can try mine on him too

[molten rover]

Thats up to him if he wants to try that

For me there isnt much diff between my CL18 or CL19 in TS CPU scores

[mortal anchor]

I'll stick with cl19

Not tryna die for TS scores

[molten rover]

Not even sure his stick will run that, im assuming it will based of the Cihan and my set

Ok, that file from community pacthes needs to be renamed to SREP_Config.cfg

[mortal anchor]

Give me a few minutes bruh I'm still tryna open this shit up without breaking any clips 🤣

[molten rover]

Lol

Make you a bit nervous

I got to go

Cihan needs to go to

[serene grove]

im here fo a while

[molten rover]

Seems you didnt get the joke

[serene grove]

im always like that

[mortal anchor]

Bruh I would die

Miniterror

When u had the laptop on its side

[molten rover]

Im here, just messing around a bit

[mortal anchor]

Did you have battery or AC?

[molten rover]

AC

[mortal anchor]

Calm

[molten rover]

This is another word i think you mean something else with then as how i read it

[mortal anchor]

hahaha

Here it means "OK"

[serene grove]

maybe just try to hot add it on linux?

flash back or forth

[molten rover]

No, he needs Advanced BIOS settings changed before the OC ram will take

[mortal anchor]

Ok

I know which stick I fucked

[molten rover]

You didnt fuck the stick, its that we forgot a step

[mortal anchor]

I'm a bit scared about all the motherboard exposed and shit

Might just qt swap the stock ram in and close the case up

[serene grove]

if you give the same command i give to you

[molten rover]

Whats the worst that could happen?

[serene grove]

just one of the sticks flashed with impvroved timings

[mortal anchor]

I drop the computer from its side

[molten rover]

Why would you drop it

[mortal anchor]

Clumsy

Fine I'll leave it alone

[molten rover]

If its in a /\ shape its quite stable

[mortal anchor]

Alright let me get a usb stick

How big is the file?

[molten rover]

Its really small

[mortal anchor]

I have a 1gb stick

Wud it fit

[molten rover]

Should be fine

We are talking less then 1KB

Just make sure its fat32 formatted

[mortal anchor]

Alright

[molten rover]

Put the EFI folder (second link unpacked) in and the community patch file (first link) called as SREP_Config.cfg

[mortal anchor]

Yo I found my 7th grade homework on this flash drive 🤣

[molten rover]

Lol

Let me know when you going to boot advanced bios

Then ill start it too on mine to guide you through it

[mortal anchor]

Oh right

SO the config

That works on my legion I rename to SREP_Confog.cfg

[serene grove]

look how it is looking on me

[molten rover]

Yes

[mortal anchor]

Mini so like this?

[molten rover]

Yep

Put in laptop, start laptop and spam F12

[mortal anchor]

Yeahhh boot devices

Ok

[molten rover]

Looks like this when booted

Takes a bit though before you reach actuall advanced bios

[mortal anchor]

Alright one second yeah

No bios backup needed yeah? Because I'm a bit worried with fucking wit the bios

[molten rover]

Nope

ill guide you through it, no worries

[mortal anchor]

Works between legion 5 and 5 pro?

[molten rover]

Yes, its the same settings, AMD specific

[mortal anchor]

Alright booting

[molten rover]

Lets brick this thing

[mortal anchor]

😭😭😭😭

[sterile gale]

Ptsd

[molten rover]

I actually need to attend a work meeting, no joke

[mortal anchor]

It's loading bruh we'll be quick

[molten rover]

Its online in Teams though so i might be a bit low on responding

[mortal anchor]

It's just sat there

[molten rover]

Yep, it takes a bit

just wait it out

[mortal anchor]

Oh it's moving

I'm in

[molten rover]

Ok

More settings

[mortal anchor]

Bios trackpad is straight dogshit

Alright I'm in more settinfs

[sterile gale]

Use arrow keys

[mortal anchor]

Yep

[molten rover]

AMD CBS>UMC Common options>DDR4 common options> Dram controller configuration

[mortal anchor]

Yep

[molten rover]

Set the Cmd2T to 1T
Gear Down Mode to disabled

[mortal anchor]

So if I do this will stock ram no longer work

[molten rover]

That will work to

[mortal anchor]

Alright

Ok 1T and disabled

Done

[molten rover]

Ok, go back one step and go to Dram memory mapping

BankGroupSwap to ALT mode

And then we need one more but thats a bit hidden, let me find it

[mortal anchor]

Ok nws waiting

[molten rover]

DDR4 common options>DRAM controller configuration>DRAM power options>Power down enable to disabled

[mortal anchor]

Ok

[serene grove]

i dont have those optimizations on my system

i never used advanced bios

[mortal anchor]

Anything else?

[molten rover]

Nope, those 4 are the changes needed

f10 to save and exit

[mortal anchor]

Now save and boot?

[molten rover]

Yes f10 to save and exit

[mortal anchor]

it still boots

Relived

relieved

Now do I swap the modded stick in?

[serene grove]

only one of the ram stick is fucked

[mortal anchor]

Yeah

[serene grove]

you can still hot add it and flash anything

[mortal anchor]

Let me see if the feuked ram boots with these changes

[serene grove]

sure

[mortal anchor]

Nah the mod ram don't boot still

[molten rover]

Only that stick in?

[mortal anchor]

Yes

[molten rover]

Or do you have both sticks in?

[mortal anchor]

Only mod

Just power cycles

[molten rover]

Thats interesting, seems like even CL19 doesnt work for you or somethign went wrong with the flash to the stick

[mortal anchor]

Seemed like our sticks revisions were a bit different

[serene grove]

i have the original spd file coming with my sticks

[mortal anchor]

Calm I'm putting old stick in to go to linux

[molten rover]

He made dump of his original

[mortal anchor]

I have my original in this chat somehwre

[serene grove]

how did you get that dump?

[mortal anchor]

Spd_check from GitHub

[molten rover]

Thats also what he is flashing

Could be that is the problem

[mortal anchor]

Let me flash OG back to that stick and see if it works

If not then we know

[serene grove]

you coulda have it using smokeless dumper

[mortal anchor]

We can dump my other stick using smokeless

[molten rover]

Verry true

[mortal anchor]

Just need to pray that Linux hot swap is a thing

If not then guess I'm paying £23.43

For thaiphoon

[serene grove]

just need to be sure which one is stock

maybe we can diff it with my own original spd

[mortal anchor]

So I'm going to flash my stick back to normal

See if it works

Then I'll see from there

@molten rover will I need to / should I revert advanced bios?

[molten rover]

Nope

if i dont have those settings active in advanced BIOS my system wont boot

[mortal anchor]

Let's try a hotswap

[serene grove]

before

get your working rams spd flash backed up

so we flash it without a mistake

using smokeless spd_dump tool

[mortal anchor]

Okay

Can you write me the command for backup?

[serene grove]

need to check together for that

[mortal anchor]

Alright I'll wait for you

[serene grove]

boot it up load modules

then i2cdetect -lt

[molten rover]

Seeying all this Thaiphoon would have been so much easier

Although possible it got broken because of writing the windows dump

[serene grove]

have you checked if he has samsung chipset too?

[mortal anchor]

It said hynix

Lol

Only just realised

But it did a thaiphoon check all unrestricted

[serene grove]

thats why it is in nonbootable state

we flash it back all using smokeless tools

[mortal anchor]

Okay

[serene grove]

just find the working ram

[molten rover]

Manual editing time then to the values

[serene grove]

which linux distribution are you using?

[mortal anchor]

Found it

0x52

Using manjaro

[serene grove]

right now its on 0x52 are you sure?

[mortal anchor]

Yeah I pulled the bad ram out

[serene grove]

ok

[mortal anchor]

100% it's 0x52 I'm sure

[mortal anchor]

Got that

[serene grove]

didnt get deleted?

[mortal anchor]

Yeah it did but I download it all back again 🤣

[serene grove]

download mine

[mortal anchor]

Is it not the same as the one you sent an hour ago?

[serene grove]

same

[mortal anchor]

Yeah I have it then

[serene grove]

cool

sudo ./spd_dump 2 0x52 verify.bin

[mortal anchor]

Ok

I executed it

[serene grove]

do you have a 512 byte bin file ?

[mortal anchor]

Yes

Verify.bin

[serene grove]

how did you find that it is on 2 0x52

[mortal anchor]

I booted it with the good ram in only then ran i2cdump on both 0x50 and 52

Only 52 came up with numbers

50 came up with X

[serene grove]

ok

now time to write it on 0x50

[mortal anchor]

Ok let me put it in

[serene grove]

hynix chipset just wont accept those timings