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like pink swirls behind that grokko added to current mix
I mean you have some extra time don't you? ๐
now add the pink to his rings
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do it lol
i cant not right now ๐
is it possible to know which ones will be the t5 illuvitars? ๐ค๐ซฃ
I am joking of course, but thanks so much for what you do in beyond
are you riding kieran's back?
Phosphorus ? Titanor? ๐
Cute ๐ฅบ
the best illuvitar will then be mah'mut right? ๐คช
or will there be t5 s2 as well?
The holo mah'mut!!!

Only final boss can do that for now.
I am betting on stevo as he is pretty strong there and i know him personally and his strategy looks pretty good to achieve atleast 3rd or 2nd place soon. Good luck @oak dew ๐ค๐
Let's see where lady luck shines for W4
When is wave 4? 1 month from the last day of wave 3?
Supposed to be
I heard from one of those hyper episodes that they are planning to have it 1 month from the snapshot date of wave 3
I would bet it won't be sooner than this, maybe a little later
@runic glade , it seems like prices estimation increased recently on most of the bonded illuvitars. Is that because of accessories valuation going higher?
shouldn't have changed
Interesting, I normally list at the prices based on your site but i notice valuation increased recently for those
What is the total ilvs for the wave 3 LB rewards? Do we have that final figure now?
I almost just bonded him with my best accessories. But I just couldnโt do it. So I made this monstrosity instead.
Technically I did have a fancy fedora which would have been better. But I wanted the helmet
Iโm probably gonna break 1m points tonight
I am too tired and too cheap to get the last like 5000 points I need for the 1m. I may try again in a few days. Maybe a few good bonds could do it.
Goodnight yall
I think it ended on a total of 3320 ILV (But the number will be confirmed when being sent out with an announcement at all.)
Will the reward illuvitars be sent out when the funds are released or sooner maybe โบ๏ธ๐
hehe! ill check for you later today ๐
Cheers I appreciate it! 
Yes 0,66 ilv we that we will hold until game is saved
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what is your LB name? I'll send you over some extras to help you hit that target. Can't have a beyond bro not even at 1 mil ๐
pelican
I'll also send some if you don't have it, of which I have more. ๐
alright on it's way...esp. send you some of former promos of which you have very little ๐
and the nice part of promos is they often increase regular album slot too, like rare doka in this case
thanks for helping us out here 
I only sent the ones you missed from the slot
then paste them into the album ๐ป๐
Hey everyone!
Just wanted to drop in to let you all know Battle in the Beyond rewards from us over at Lizard Labs (Ethlizards) have started being distributed. Anyone who won D1SKs should already have them in their wallets 
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Action is required if you won $LIZ!
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Because Illuvium assets are all on Immutable Passport and Lizcoin is only on ETH mainnet and Base, you will need to provide an EVM wallet. When you log into Battle in the Beyond, a modal will pop up to ask you for your wallet. **These need to be submitted by March 31st to receive your $LIZ!
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Full announcement in the server here #915502241035739176 message
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1346515798675427338 this is my proposal.
you can vote for it please
@frank pier @sick perch we did it! Thanks again
don't spend your million all in one place ๐
next goal? top 100
I'm really looking forward to the special illuvitar. You too? ๐คช
can we get extra reward for all the effort we put into these proposals too....feels like a side job you know what i mean?
There will be third weekly snapshot in a day time and we still haven't received last 2 weeks rewards. Any updates pls...
they said that we will soon receive the weekly reward and then the wave3 reward. I think we will get everything within a week (max)
Hopefully everything should be caught up this week
the SAFE thing with bybit also has contributed
When Will we get for the special illuvitars? ๐ค๐ปโโ๏ธ
Will let you know as soon as iI know
all wasted time...
and that's actually just an idea in the #1020759212172775464 it's not even a official proposal.
this community really needs some education about governance.
I think we are owed three weeks and tomorrow will be the fourth
a ok, maybe I did it wrong? I've never done this... last time I asked Garf for help and he wrote for me.
yes you generally want to put the idea in the feedback-ideas but it's only to gauge community sentiment and feedback.
Is this correct?
ok, thanks, where should it be inserted in IIP ICCP? It won't let me write there.
yes proposals are submitted in https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1126838877429182506
you do need to be an ILV staker though.
ok thanks for the info, never done anything like this in 4 years... what a disappointment..
yeah.. Governance needs an upgrade.
Thanks for the info, I'll ask Garf if he can kindly do it for me this time too.
I actually give up... I won't do anything, it's all a waste of time and I'm selling all my albums.
So here's my take on the W3 LB...
I didn't gear my strategy to be 6th or 10th... I 100% aimed for top 5 because I wanted one of the top 5 illuvitars. If I knew I'd get the same for 6-10 I would have made a different strategy. So I can't upvote any W3 LB changes. Whatever they choose for W4 is fine because we will all start fresh for strategy.
IMO Beyond is the last fun thing in the Illuvium ecosystem and has lots of room to keep growing.
If some of you wanna leave I understand... but if you leave over not getting a particular Illuvitar then idk. Why not just let it ride? Stay on the LB legacy... get some free disks next wave and keep collecting. Selling off now is just like throwing away hard work.
But do what you will and all the best.
you're right, but I couldn't do any strategy because the leaderboard didn't work, would I have invested less or more? now I can also give up any type of prize, for me it's not a problem. If a project is valid when it realizes a mistake it corrects it immediately, it doesn't hide by postponing until tomorrow, making others respond and creating a war between sailors. With these assumptions, even if I'm very sorry, I prefer to go elsewhere. I appreciate your honesty, but you also know that this structure is wrong.
I've been keeping a close eye on all your and spacelover's threads and feedback. But there is no feedback idea thread that has garnered more than ten people's support. It also doesn't reward everyone equally, which likely is a reason for why the sentiment wasn't there. People don't vote for the things that don't benefit them (but even the 20% increase in ILV rewards didn't garner 25 people's upvotes). So it is a pretty difficult proposal to push.
An IIP would need 25 upvotes as well, and so since the feedback ideas threads have been so divided, i don't think it would be easy at all.
thank you very much Garf, I understand well that it would be useless.. thanks for your help, you deserve higher places in the illuvium universe.
One thing they could do is give a complimentary special illuvitar to everyone who participated in W3.
I would upvote that
I would vote against, I don't want handouts
Nah i am already in the second highest position in regards to the DAO! Things like these that don't have a clear way forward keep my mind spinning. But I can't come up with a solution! And so I'm probably in the right position.
Okayโฆ well all the best
2nd highest...
yeah you better be IMC next epoch ๐
Don't think i will run
Ok those who are taller should ask themselves why people drop out and what to do to avoid this...
if 24 people vote that the 5th-10th places will be given in the jokull holo version, then I will stand there as the 25th person. Let everyone be satisfied. Hopefully it won't be that the 11th won't like it ๐ so if it depends on one person, you can count on me...But since they already said at the beginning what the different places will win, I don't see much chance for it. Don't sell your album for small money. Wait for wave 4 and then invest accordingly so that you know in advance what your goal is
yes, but you can't invest in something you want to believe in but it constantly disappoints you... it's not a good investment
That's the thing... you don't have to. You don't have to put a penny more in. And you can still receive from it via LB and free disks next wave.
Now we don't even do it because we want to profit from it, just for fun. The whole crypto market is dead right now. There were mistakes, but I don't think they were done with bad intentions. People learn from mistakes and hopefully the next wave will be more fun. If the bull market will come and maybe even new people will come, it will improve a lot to make the game even more enjoyable.
Also... since they are making disks purchasable with fuel we may see new ppl come because of that also
I'm curious to see
Having a Wave specific leaderboard was a very good addition
that doesn't help the secondary market much. supply will be even greater and demand will be even less...
they will be able to buy disks with fuel but I will not give anything in exchange for fuel
That's not true
Fuel is all to be purchased from the new fuel economy system
Zero doesn't produce fuel for the economy any more
So all fuel is bought and used in the ecosystem
ok, I didn't know that ๐
And since fuel will be sold at a set price... there is no bunus system for fuel any more.
Question is... how much fuel are disks going to cost?
good question ๐ค
Hopefully they give a discount for using fuel to incentivize fuel purchase. I'm guessing it will be ALOT easier to sell fuel via CC purchase online than it is to buy ETH
Which also makes one think... is Illuvium actually Web 2.5 now?
if d1sks are set at 6$, it's 600 fuel each right, since one fuel would be pegged to 0.01 dollar. (unless this gets changed in the upcoming weeks)
That's my understanding ๐
All I know is that I have to put eth into wave4 as well.. legacy doesn't produce enough illuvium yet. I have no fuel... so everything is fine
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Buuut... if they want to incentivize fuel usage they may want to charge less fuel for disks. It's already that way for Silv2 since u can get it cheaper than ilv.
and isnt it 4.99?
maybe make it 399 and mega 2499
And the wave3 reward is very little in the current value...I hope that at least changes this month..
Nono because eth will be made unusable. You nรฉรฉd fuel. So no discounts ser
silv2 still good tho yah?
Hahaha def web 2.5
Yes. But that has been this way since staking. It is in the tokenomics.
initially though......since lots of people have stacked up lots of fuel......it will definitely dilute the market.......with free packs from rewards and free packs from fuel.....gonna be alot of diluting going on in wave 4................also when disks are bought with fuel i would imagine it would cost same amount as it would if they were bought in eth wouldnt it?
Not many people stacking fuel are in beyond... and the conversion is shit... so i doubt much dilution from that
how many dollars of fuel do u have approximately from what u stacked?
Quick maths -> 1M fuel equals 23 standard d1sks. ๐
1m /88.8/500 = 22.5
for example... if you have 1 million existing fuel that will get converted to about 11,400 new fuel... if disks cost 3500 fuel then that's 3 disks ๐
fkng joke
do people like how wave 3 was price wise? as far as price being pegged to the dollar?
Yes we did. Lets not change it back guys ๐คฃ
lets change the system every wave woooooo
i did think it was good too.....should keep everything the same
the pricing and everything seemed perfect i think unless someone can explain otherwise
just gotta change the rewards stuff a bit
That, and gold illuvitars ๐
ya i meant those too ๐
we need some fresh ideas for illuvitars i think
for special nft..........like lets introduce vehicles or something
or a tcg ๐
@potent tulip special illuvitar lambo nft for best stretch goal reward please
maybe can make it like super hero vehicles....like batman has batmobile.....give atlas some type of atlasmobile
or maybe give them some dating partners....squizz and the mizz
squizz maybe young but he is mature and classy and thats whats really important
never too young to get married in illuvitar land....amirite
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This isnt the last time you shocked me.
thats a good pun right there ๐
squizz...shock...very nice
But it is true
im glad you kept the drinking down a bit
i dont get hammered all the time...only some of the time....and thats called drinking responsibly ๐ cheers to that
Cheers! And gn!
I thought I was lucky with the disks openings, but no. I put $6.5k into wave3 and I'm nowhere. Others are in the 10-20th place in the legacy for this much money or less. if wave 1-2 was so expensive, how can it be? ๐ค๐
I just looked at a few accounts
was that mostly opening disks?
Yes
ahh..yes, unless you are very lucky and sell good ones quick it's actually cheaper to buy in secondary
there was also some shopping
many people got free reward disks........also you get a discount when buying with silv2 token.......
and of course opening disks only got you wave three...secondary bonded other waves are the way to go
but you did well for wave 3..better than me ๐
but at this point, you might as well build up legacy with other waves...lots in the market
and then wave 4 will be a factor but less so, and you have free disks to start
but if you get a rare holo sell asap ๐
And you might be able to buy a 20-50 range album for 1 eth which would probably get you top 20
I also sold a few things, worth 2 thousand dollars, but most of them were overworld stuff...
so 6-2?
or 6+2?
oh wait you talking about overall leaderboard? you need a good overall collection to do good in that one....not just 1 wave....but not sure exactly what u talking about
Did you spend 4 net or 8 total for your beyond rank? If the latter, ouch
I don't want to know how much in rewards I've put back in...I refuse to look ๐
I know... but I'm saying that in the legacy leaderboard there are people in the first 20 places who spent less than me
so I spent more in one wave than in the other three waves
absoulutely, and a lot of them sold illuvitars for more to open more disks, buy what they need, etc
so we'll have to see how wave 4 is and if you want to move up legacy and hopefully we get some more hektors
where u getting the data from? also maybe they just have a more efficiently distributed collections
what is certain is that the promo disks was a big waste of money for me.
or what they spent is more than what their album is now worth ๐
hey you got a watch lol
maybe
when you pay shipping
maybe there was a mistake
ya that could be a big reason....you get the least bang for your buck points wise i think from promo disks
or maybe it was obtained with direct trade, it is not visible. immutascan
yeah I would guess most of the top wallets have done a lot of trading, not eth ones
Expensive watch ๐คช
for sure lol...better never need another battery ๐
or has a force field
well glad you are here and staying
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Do I also have to pay for shipping?
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maybe then I don't even need a watch... in the end it will be more than the watch is worth ๐
After all, if I get the wave3 reward, I can improve again in legacy. so the situation is normalized ๐
good night everyone
not even got weekly rewards never mind wave 3 rewards ...gotta calm down ๐
I think mTrump has reserved them for the US crypto reserve
well atleast I had an exiting day ...moved the wife monkey from its house to an area for human interaction kinda hoped it would escape but not yet ........we will see if its still there tomorrow
I assume we will get all the pending rewards including wave 3 rewards soon... ๐ค
I can be employed remotely as a trustworthy individual to do the task
I am also ready to do that to make sure payout goes smoothly as expected on weekly basis โบ๏ธ...
two for me, one for you ๐
@wide swan ,Dont disappoint me here ...
Im trying not to
May I know approximately how much the shipping fee for the watches will be? ( In Europe )
What happened to illuvidata site? Its not updating anymore and showing old illuvitars only. Only reference site now we have for current market valuation is beyond illuvitars site of @runic glade
@royal anvil
Thanks for tagging @minor ruin.
Will look into this now
While Iโm not exactly certain where the watches will end up being shipped fromโฆ a lot of things from illuvium get shipped from Amsterdam.
I live in Transylvania. I hope the shipping will not be too expensive. ๐
it'll be fine.. about three fiddy
are LB payouts still a thing or is that going away now?
no no,, that'll keep going
atleast.. once its restarted ;/
Resolved the issue. Thanks again
They are way behind
WAVE 4 ETHEREUM TAKEOVER?: https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1347027822736310375
leave your feedback please and thank you
@potent tulip how easy to implement this system.....only disks bought with ethereum will receive stretch goal rewards points
My fellow romanian. I got some illuvium merch and didnt pay too much for shipping. Its totally worth it
were we supposed to submit an address somewhere for our watches
Really nice. Multumesc pentru raspuns frate ๐
Personally i'm not a fan sorry, but I do think stretch goals need a bit of a serious rethink for wave 4.
Even if people do support this idea, I don't see it being at all feasible to build and implement this in time for wave 4, we still cannot get rewards operational.
We have seen a significant reduction in manpower/resources, we need to temper expectations to align with this fact, providing you don't want any delays.
Not yet
heyy when we'll be able to claim wave3 rewards?
Talking about wave 4 when wave 3 rewards havenโt even be distributed is funny
or last month of legacy lb rewards 
Should be this week and all caught up
thanks for the update 
Any idea when nft wave 3 rewards will be sent? be nice to have something to call "my precious"
Iโm guessing probably next week but maybe it can be part of all this catchup we need to do
Anyone else wondering what promo we will have for wave 4?
No? Just me? Ok..
@soft spoke is working on it
I keep hearing about him.
Is he one of the co-founders?
only in his mind ๐
All Kieran will say on the promo partner is "it's really big"
Will it be Mr. Big? I hope not... I already have too many underwear....๐
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Nice to see the fun vibes in Beyond โ๏ธ Lookin forward to W4 ๐ฅ
Soaking it up before going back to the trenches ๐
It will be easy for you. You will do a concert and with the ticket price you can buy everything from the secondary market...๐คช
not a fan because why? also can you leave your feedback in feedback thread please so we can possibly gather community sentiment in one place thanks
promo partner = Bud Light ๐ค ๐ป
then we got TMZ on deck as next promo partner after that
how low have we fallen... From a server brimming with good ideas and smart discussions. To a token chat and feedback-ideas filled with negativity, trolling and stupid sh1t.
I wont lie, but i slightly enjoy stupid shit.
if it's stupid funny sure
It seems @soft spoke banned now... Is he really causing problem for the community? I dont see him a problem
agree..just a fool on the hill..let him be
Nothing malicious, if a bit much at times ๐
and in this dead period we need all the entertainment we can get lol
Its an alt account thats already been banned previously 2x
we already gave him some leeway and let him go a bit
but alas they all show their true colours eventually
ahh..politics on other channels...got it. Yeah, better to leave all that alone. We are divided enough the way it is, even on beyond ๐
Not the politics, the problem was he was using multiple discord accounts, which is against the rules. As well as being extremely aggressive and rude on said alt account
well partially policital too... lol like i said we gave him an opportunity to chill a bit
keeping policits out of discord as best we can
We let him off lightly with his poor sarcasm on Ron account, cos sometimes he was funny in his own way... but yeah, a bit much recently to say the least - plus all the other multiple reasons he was due a ban
Is there a way someone can read only and not post, so they can still get update info?
Yeah he couldve joined on his alt and been silent lol

And I probably never wouldve been the wiser
well we know that is not going to happen
Yep, don't paint a target on your own back and wonder why you get shot a ban
yeah as long as they can read that should be ok
belong but not comment
well new alt account coming lol
Thats the thing... its like why even permamute when i know how easy it is for them to just make a new account either way
I actually liked beyond bob and ron burgandy lol
nothing personal
some people just cant handle their alcohol online
yeah some stuff was clever, and indeed alcohol and being on line is rarely constructive ๐
I don't miss drinking at all
You actually think you are being ok and then you look back and cringe 
Yes my wife reminds me when ever we have a social event with her work
And he is a good guy, as most of us are
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I hope that when set 1 ends and set 2 begins, set 1 will still count in the legacy leaderboard. For those who have been playing since the beginning, it may not matter, but I want to buy wave 1-2 illuvitars now. This is very important information for me.
I didn't get any rewards or free disks for those waves. If I buy now and it doesn't count after set 1, then it's a waste of money for me. Then I'd rather not buy anything and just focus on the current wave
If they dont count set 1 illuvitars, it is also waste of money for those who has started since wave 1 as there will be no demand of it and you couldn't sell them on the market. I dont think that team will reset legacy LB to start on set 2 but you never know. Non of the existing investors would be happy if that happens
Obviously it wouldn't be good for anyone, but it would be much worse for anyone who wants to buy from previous waves now. Whoever started at the beginning always received the reward after the legacy and a separate reward for the current wave. ( + Free disks )
so some money came back
Legacy should include all sets and waves otherwise it wouldn't be legacy
You might not know the full details like wave 1 was already expensive wave and current valuation of wave 1 illuvitar is nowhere near to justify the original amount spent so current buyers are already getting discounted wave 1 illuvitars. I am pretty sure everyone who had invested in wave 1 agree on this. Regarding free wave disks rewards, they are not exactly free as you would still need to purchase wave 2 disks to earn those free disks via stretch goal points. I only see the slight issue there as team did put lower points limit to earn those wave 3 disks. I was one of the biggest investors in wave 1 alpha and alpha wave 1 disk was priced about $200 each ๐ which is nowhere near to current wave alpha prices
I know wave1 was much more expensive... the disks were more expensive. But those who didn't want to keep everything and sold stuff in the meantime didn't get as much as they can sell for now. like a casino. you play with a bigger bet but you can win more
If I want to sell the holo goofy rhamphite now, how much will I get for it? $500? back then they sold holo goliant for thousands of dollars.... ๐
Beyond bob wants me fired ๐ฆ
Yes but those big sell only limited to few players. Most of the players wouldnt be lucky to sell at those prices unfortunately
/: that's sad
What are the three things we don't talk about at the dinner table? Sex, politics and religion
Anyway, as you said like its casino and you never know what you get as return out of it so we can't blaim about it to anyone but i agree that legacy LB should have all the sets and wave in it in future
anywhere really lol... like in public
Bob Ron Beyond Burgendy wants me fired too Rich, it's okay
Itโs interestingโฆ
I donโt get the same feeling doing an ADR as I do opening disks even though the ADR experience is modeled after disk opening.
yep. When everything is shiny, nothing is shiny.
Well that yes... but also... I did like 40 ADR and got like 3 meh holo. So holos and DH are still very rare. So yah... prob tweaking the highlighted borders to better reflect perceived value might be good.
But even further than that... with Beyond you also have accessories and utility with the contents within. That's not really there yet with ADR contents.
yes that is true, H/DH do seem rare in ADR. I would say what ADRs have going on for them that's special it's the TPI and it's not being leveraged.
who cares about a rhamphyre with 20 TPI
my brain thinks "garbage"
but maybe I'm just used to the old OW
where you hunt for the stats
Yep... I was kinda pleasntly surprised with the TPI stats in ADR
They def seem usable... whenever usability comes ๐
Nice thing about using fuel is you don't need to sign transactions
Who is going to purchase wave 4 disks if we have fuel option available to purchase? Existing people who doesn't hold fuel, they might get free disks as airdrop as well if they were in wave 3. So, i assume it would be much lesser actual disk sell via eth/ilv for the wave 4 as compare to wave 3 unless some exciting things planned that triggers people to purchase with eth...
Currently looks like the ONLY way you'll be able to buy disks is with fuel
That might be true as well considering the current beyond sentiment is at ATL...
But then many new investors then has to purchase fuel first and then purchase disks which is not convenient for them
I never tried that before so idk
And there's Swipe... can buy with credit card or google pay or apple pay
Most Stuff you purchase in future will be priced in fuel only as far as i understand
Yah overall the new payment system is wayyyyy better
all the things I dont do no sexy dont vote and dont go to church
Hows the fuel price changing now because of this new utility in beyond? Is it having good demand now? I heard its all overloaded with lots of fuel
Old fuel system is dead
They are trying to convert old existing fuel to new fuel at an abysmal conversion rate akin to rugging...
But aside from that, the new fuel system will be static and not change. One fuel is one cent. Therefore disks are 499 and 2999 fuel
think its "Stripe" actualy you must being doing to much tinder ๐
I have seen it but i haven't read it yet
lot of changes
worth a read
Can we add feature like exchange or burn illuvitar to get fuel?
@potent tulip , any feasiblity study around it?
Wouldn't that result in increasing floor but decreasing high End priced assets?
Or is that the Goal?
There's a different design in the making for beyond, but its yet to be accepted and start work on it.
It feels like i should hold on to my illuvitars for longer... ๐ค
burn mechanism with wave 4 for all the clown noses would be sick!
I can't wait for the album reform changes get released for lynx collection to start with... Are we releasing the album changes earlier than wave 4? I believe we should do that sooner...
I don't think they have finalised design for burn mechanism as it might be complex on dynamic calculation to create something new equivalent to the value of burnt illuvitars or accessories
the whole ecosystem is in a limbo let's not rush Beyond
what will happen when wave 5 ends?
have you guys thought about that?
set 2 is still a far away vision
nothing special. Let's hope the legacy leaderboard continues until then. When set 2 comes, we'll continue where we left off. so it's logical
I like that the Power difference between previous set holders and future ones would be negligable if we get the same illuvitars. After all, the only unique slots are Set1 and Wave 1-5. So two sleeves per illuvitar. And future sets will inflate the amount of sleeves, so the percentile difference should decrease.
I can assure you we've thought about it a lot!
is there any vesting to wave3 rewards like it was in missions? just curious
No vesting
well that's nice then, looking forward to what wave4 brings
We have had 100/156 illuvials right? How will these last two waves look! 28/28 or 25/31? Or am i making numbers up ๐คฃ maybe a final 6 in a final wave-ending promo collection?
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I think it is 99 T1,T3T4T5, 31 T2, 75 T0.
Total = 130+75 = 205.
T0s are copies so subtract 50 to get 155...
But then there is also the veiled legendary illuvial. So very perhapsly 156?
supposedly there's also the misprint auction, if that is till going to be a thing.
Ohh yeah....
I totally forgot about that 
Will those have a unique background? Similar to the gold ones had? Or was that wave specific?
Oeeeee so many questions.
Days are becoming so long while you wait for the wave 3 rewards... ๐
They said this week. Hopefully it will be today because if it goes into weekend it seems more unlikely.
Its already friday night in Australia so i hope we get it today or else another 3 days ๐...
They probably won't give the reward on the weekend. Everyone is resting. Either today or next week.
Itโs actively being worked on
Right now
Can I get an answer to my question? I would like to buy wave1-2 illuvitars but only if it makes sense and it will still count in the legacy leaderboard after set1.
I mean as far as I know the plan is for legacy leaderboard to count everything the way it is @potent tulip that sound right
That's great. Thanks for the answer ๐ค
the leaderboard for everything in ur album keeps going yes.
Please IS some date about 3 season rewards
I think IS some times
For example IS plan rewards plan when please or some plan @potent tulip
Or @wide swan
I plan buy my new gaming Pc so wait for rewards
only makes sense. continue wave specific LB, and maybe a set 2 specific LB at some point, but legacy will always be the one LB to rule them all (and encourage people to collect them all ๐
You would have to have 3 leaderboards if that was the case though, unless they wanted to make set 1 obsolete.
Well set 2 lb could be quite a bit smaller payouts than legacy though, even less than wave specific, but enough to get new players (assuming we get some ๐ to try to be in each wave of set two. But yeah legacy has to stay and then wave specific. Like I say, at some point a set two might make sense, and if beyond and ILV in general is rocking it should be considered then.
Two leaderboards are always enough. We don't need three. The legacy leaderboard and the current wave leaderboard.
For Example: legacy and set 2 wave 1 or legacy and set 2 wave 4
So the rewards don't need to be changed either....If someone wants to fight for the legacy reward, they should buy what they need from the previous waves!
I'm speaking against myself now because I only started the game in wave 3. But this is fair and logical.
Imo its the same, u got a lb for the event thats on, and an overall scoretrackdr of ur total album
That would be ideal ๐
Ill want to move away from set 1 album terminology asap ๐
It should be shore 1, wave 1. I agree.
well no reason to do sets then, just do ongoing waves.
so instead of set 2 wave 1 which add confusion, just make it wave 7 or whatever number we stop on for set 1. And also if you are going to delay wave 4, please pick a date and stick to it during announcing delay.
I don't think the set matters either... I could call it set 2, but that's just a formality... whatever you call it, the point is the legacy and the current wave
im going to give some clarity soon .. there's a few people involved in decision making ofc. ๐
when i say I i mean we ;D
@potent tulip , i would assume you will release new album slots for lynx collection before wave 4 pls to keep the excitement going here in dead period...
thats the plan
well looks like no ilv rewards till monday......
lots of things hopefully happing in my life on monday ....lol
Beyond wawe3 IS some update when rewards please
I think we'll only get the reward on Monday. Maybe...
At least they could send out the special illuvitars.
There's not much that would be very difficult... ๐ฆ
Maybe we are waiting for ILV to $10> ๐
I am still not getting why distribution of rewards is so difficult. What kind of complexity does it have apart from authorisation? Process is already in place as we have done many times before...
Sorry for being little frustrated here... Just expressing my concern and curiosity around the rewards distribution process...
They sure take our money fast and they sure honor their commitments slow
Itโs looking like maybe Monday they had to rewrite some scripts for the distributions. But we are across the rewards and everything so I think mon/tues now everything should hopefully be caught up and done
We could still get the illuvitars... You have to send 31 in total. I'm not a tech genius but even for me it would take half an hour. Even if I sent them to everyone one by one ๐
guys it is the weekend, give the team a break
No offense, I just said that at least they could have sent those few illuvitars. If someone had spent half an hour on Friday, we would have received them by now. Anyway, since the wave ended, I've only seen rest. Nothing happens. ๐ Apart from that, I wish everyone a nice weekend and a good rest. ๐๐ค๐
Yeah but someone has to mint them and we have strict processes for minting things for obvious reasons
I understand. No problem, now hopefully we will get everything in the next few days. Have a nice weekend Rich โจ๐ค
yeah after the gold illuvitar fiasco I hope so
Yโall are salty children. Have some patience, itโs good for ya
believe me bro. no worth stressing over it. now you heard monday. if its not monday all hell breaks lose ๐ just chill it will arrive at some point
โMaybe Mondayโ
bro chill dont show stress in here. just do what you can and report no one expects you to be the guy who does the coding for stuff
that is my point no one will think about the maybe part..
is this about ilv or nft reward?
the illuviator my guys really does not matter if you get it sooner or later..
im not trying to defend anything btw. just my little voice of reason in the back of my mind screaming: you did this last time chill out. lol
I don't really care what's up with the token....I'm just waiting for the illuvitar. I definitely won't sell at an all time low.
its after wave this is not all time low
but now that you say this i hope they reward it soon
cause if some people like sell those ultra rares cheap i got some sale money left ๐
@tepid geyser what kinda profilepic you sporting these days? i mean the rhamphyre one
Why in history my rewards points it's zero?? Scam ??
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what exactly are you talking about? i guess youre talking mission tab.. wrong chat for mission tab... but there is little arrows on history to switch seasons...
like so
believe me i feel you mate... and i mean what i say for your benefit.. rewards that are minted no worries you'll get them. i dont think it will take a massive amount of time for that... this is why i said like one or two weeks ago an official end of wave announcement would be a great thing. nothing too specific for all i care just a little: end, what we learned, whats next, loose timeframe of what to expect... for example BITB said all rewards will be sent out till end of march..
pop up in youre face. i dont mind this way of doing it.
ah shit gotta check those nft prizes lol
where do u check?
Currently sporting the Team Liquid Rhamphy.
Getting swapped immediately for the Adorius when it comes in though 
So many to choose from though, it would be good to have a rotator so you can select about 5 to rotate automatically or something.
that rhamph is a 1/1 right?
not drooling at all sadly i started right before that was already pulled lol
There are around 11 non holos I believe, but this is the only 1 with the gold background and holo.
It was Johnny that pulled it. So lucky, it was the rarest possible pull from the set.
That's what makes the Adorius so special as there are quite a few 1 of 1's that exist but they are rare varients of the same art. That Adorius only exists on one piece, the 1st and only one to do so for now. So excited to get that 
i loved that those max rarities of colab were pulled once only i think one didnt even get a pull
those one timers sure do tickle my pullers addiction ๐
Yeah there was only 1 holo of the rare xpression for the G-Shock promo too.
Yeah, mine too. That's the dream when opening D1sks.
let me ask you this: if the gold bg were 1/1 what would they have been worth to you? ๐
originally i thought it was like that i went and put a screenshot of one in here at the beginning..
Not sure which ones you mean, can you post one.
pho scoriox
Ah the stretch goals.
the rewarded ones. i think if those were like pulls and just once or like 10 each
that wouldve begun a gold search lol
wouldve for me anyway
i hope they dont scrap the gold bg's if anything those should be pullable.. i mean i for one would go ballistic in trying to pull one...
didnt figure it out btw...
Yeah far too diluted. Tempted to put a proposal up regarding those.
Their whole purpose is to incentivise D1sk sales, yet you can pick the rarest one up on the market for $50, less than the price of 2 D1sks. So who is going to spend anything trying to chase them. My guess is no-one.
Yah I checked tt but no luckโฆ maybe someone will figure it out and post
I don't think it's worth it. It was council who diluted them...
I heard it was an accident
So maybe worth at least finding out the truth
the first time it was an accident yes.
but then they went and gave double points to everyone because of it.
I mean, sh1t happens all the time. But you just own it and move on.
not double down on it...
Iโd support a reasonable proposal that addresses the issue
Where is accountability in illuvium? ๐คช
the problem is the council
labs gets away with acountability
and the council doesn't own their sh1t
although they're the ones that make the calls...
at least now we have the team doing a 180ยบ and getting back to being transparent
yes indeed ๐ ... transparent but only after launching a rogue EP completely flipping fuel and OW
what OW? ๐
I don't know about you but that was what drew me to ILV first, then unfortunately stumbled into Beyond ๐
I'm more thinking along the lines of how easily/difficult the goals are achieved.
I believe they should be more difficult to obtain to ensure that they remain a prize worth striving for.
If they are too easily accessed they will hit market too frequently and cheaply and in turn this will remove any incentive to hit those goals. There needs to be a much better balance.
Even before the screw ups, there was still a lot of them.
This is just spitballing, but I think itโd be interesting to burn illuvitars to get a special oneโฆ something like, burn all three expressions of an illuvitar to get a metallic oneโฆ could play with the numbers, but maybe 65% chance itโs common expression, 25% uncommon and 10% rareโฆ my first thought is you could burn illuvitars that are bonded or unbonded as a way to cut down supply.
One issue with this though, is that currently the gold illuvitar are โpre bondedโ where this idea would make more sense if they were considered unbonded
I like this. I think Guild of Guardians and other projects have done something similar. What about golden accessories, too? I have more clown noses than an entire clown farm should have. What if we burned multiple thousands for a shot at a golden clown nose accessory of some sort?
we're long due to burning mechanisms...
Yeah, I remember this being discussed a year, at least, prior. I think the IMX integration made this difficult in the past (not having us on ZKevm). However, it should be revisited and allow collectors to burn inventory and reward them for their loyalty and commitment.
i agree! i think the original 80 points repeating disks was on point though.. but like gold illus was a mistake. i mean it killed phos and scorioxes... and honestly wasnt that like really obvious to happen?
I think itโs super fun to open disks, and super fun to gacha/gambleโฆ a burning mechanism where we could continue this would be great with our already owned duplicates
i believe this was very important though. the mistake was making it stretch goal the correction was dilluting the market with golds.. you know to make things competetive..
to make things competitive? ๐คฃ
how so?
i read in here and maybe even prompted the response of a rulebook for wave 4. i think right now they are making a mistake of not doing a low key announcement. i wont repeat what i mean. the space is still in unrest and people arent super confident in whats to come... mate i agree with you haha
well it made them cheap they made most points on lb....
for those snipers and whatever amount of new players
well i speculate but i dont think it would have had any competition without it honestly.
i did a trade for alot of golds and they sold very well prior to end.. lol
you mean it pushed down the competition by giving OP illuvitars to the top 100 no?
so its all my private experience dont hang me on it lol
well price dropped from like 350$ on gold pho to 150-100
and it sold
if everyone has them then I don't see what they matter for competition
thats a non future view though..
more collectors more need for them no?
they still value bp high AF
if you hold them and things go well you good
Also, could be fun if the way to get a dark holo was to burn a holo of each expression
with same bg
how many gold pho exist? i really dont know... to be clear im not trying to defend the gold's i still believe they shouldve been max minted like 5 pho 10 scor and 25 the least one threw disks.
Instead illuvium is putting effort into ADR that I speculate wonโt be used as much as they think it will.
ADR?
200
Automated drone runs
yep... No one's going to spend money on that with the game's current stage and the market filled with cheap illuvials.
im just gonna log off at this point... beyond is fun as is. focus on it. damn
Beyond is just a side show m8
they dont realise it really isnt
but it is
Iโve done about 200 or so hyper ADRโฆ if I were to have spent real money on that Iโd be ashamed of myself.
iluvitars are PFPs
nah they are cards
wtv
call them what u like
anyone dissagreeing you the weird kid in school lol
NFTs ๐
doesnt matter to me it seems beyond is where the HC people are
you realize Beyond is the only active game with competitive scene and rewards on right?
it is
Beyond by far the funnest of allโฆ but thatโs also because of competition and rewardsโฆ without that thereโs no reason also
but i guess reality does not way in..
jeah i get it is meant to be the side B
but maybe in reality people dont care for what you think is main or side?
lol
this is fun people find it fun... whatever try to make the no fun thing a fun thing lol. seems much easier...
btw no soul on earth cares even an inch for graphics.
just a fact
it does but comes second to the game being good
@meager garden all the above is not directed at you
yeah i know but graphics are so overrated. first are controls. then comes whatever keeps you playing competition or lore stuff. then comes graphics. well theres more stuff to put inbetween 2 and 3
I do ๐
what games you play regurarly right now?
Me too (:
Illuvium ser
hahaha
Clash royale is so good
I always wished illuvium would have explored an arena mode that was active like clashโฆ where you could put illuvials down as the battle goes on.
Yea nah honestly i haven't played a single game with shit graphics for their time during my gaming life of almost 30 years... Except blobby volley
the definition of shit graphics is key here ๐
check out the new gta trailer as top of the line for me
im not saying shitty is the way to go i just think too much has been weighed on graphics..
Have Seen it... Great graphics... Not my Type of game ๐
In my Personal case it's Like gameplay top priority, but i won't Find out if a game with not top graphics has Fun gameplay because i simply won't try it because of shitty graphics
you own land and stuff you wouldve found out ๐
but im not saying shit graphics is the way to go.
Land is not shitty graphics...
just priority middle graphics make it enduser based for all i care like mod's allowed whatever
is this bring you're matchmaking to beyond chat day? bro go to the right thread.
oh I am sorry. Was travelling between channels it is my bad :/
Any updates on ilv rewards today ? @wide swan / @potent tulip ?
As soon as I have another Iโll let you guys know
Thanks rich
Rewards are plan today true
It would be good to do something to somehow regain people's trust...all the big players are selling or listing their albums one after another. It would be worth thinking a little and pressing a reset.
First, get Wave 3 rewards. It's about high time. 9 days have passed since 1st March.
Working on rewards now
shouldnt be too long now
- Weekly Rewards Caught up
- Wave 3 LB pay outs
- Wave 3 NFT Rewards
I hope not too long has the unit of measurement in hours and not in days ๐...
well you know how men are with measurements ๐
LMAO
The unit of measurement is of course in hours. Just 96 hours and we'll get everything. ๐คช๐
can someone who got the special illuvatars post a picture of them here please? i want to see them ๐
๐ฅด
WOW Beautiful....๐คฉ
I dont know off hand
can tell you soon as their minted though
maybe @potent tulip knows
I have yet to recieve any weekly rewards
I think they are still working on them. I haven't seen anything yet either.
Yes as soon as they send them i will tell everyone
It's all good guys. Team is just waiting for the token price to dip below 10 dollars and they push the send button. Won't be long now!
๐
they might be waiting till we owe them for the ilv ๐
I believe before you tell, everyone will start sharing it here as we all are eagerly waiting for it and checking our account multiple times in a day... ๐๐
That's right. It's not about saying it, it's about doing it. ๐คฃ
ok wave 3 rewards, it will take longer to calculate them or something... but the weekly ones? I lost count of how many weeks are left
are missing? I think 6 and counting. And the minting of wave 3 illuvitar rewards should be easy one would think, but at this point we might as well stop checking our account like a rat hitting a reward bar in a cage for that one time that a small piece of food comes out ๐
this thing should be fixed, every snapshot automatically should be paid wallets, otherwise we are always here asking, asking..
is there anyone who can automate weekly rewards?
You don't get a response for half a day or a day, then they say they're working on it. Its's been like this for a while. It's getting boring.
The snapshot is automated; they fired the person who pays out the rewards alas and the SAVE system that led to the recent 1.5 billion hack is used by many in the industry, including them, so they need to fix those two issues before paying out. I assume it should be back to normal for weekly payouts once they fix all this...or ilv is at zero ๐
the only one who shouldn't have been fired
Until we get what we want, we will be as patient as Yoda. And so old
older by the minute ๐
They are testing distribution now so fingers crossed ๐ค๐ฝ
That then we can do the real thing
you are as bad as my wife...maybe tonight honey..or this weekend..or... ๐
I learned from mine
Hopefully it comes out bug free ๐ or else more delay
Does anyone write anything funny? Let's at least entertain each other. Where are you Ron? ๐ฅบ๐
Ron left us
I know. I'm sorry. I liked his humor ๐
we'll see what the next incarnation is ๐
Proof that we have past lives, and we can relive our karma over and over 
The interweb knows no bounds
this is weird karma first life = bad karma. repeat that forever lol
are mints and ilv rewards gonna be done together?
we always have the opportunity to grow and change, but usually our ego defends it original position until it's death ๐
hmm so basically im lucky then good job ego lol death?
before i die i will do a timed random transfer to any new born baby on earth. im lucky so i might just get my stuff back ๐
this should work:
import random
def calculate_karma_likelihood(total_bad_karma: int, total_good_karma: int):
if total_bad_karma < 0 or total_good_karma < 0:
raise ValueError("Karma values cannot be negative.")
total_karma = total_bad_karma + total_good_karma
if total_karma == 0:
return {"positive_event": 0.5, "negative_event": 0.5}
positive_likelihood = total_good_karma / total_karma
negative_likelihood = total_bad_karma / total_karma
return {
"positive_event": round(positive_likelihood, 2),
"negative_event": round(negative_likelihood, 2)
}
def determine_event(total_bad_karma: int, total_good_karma: int):
probabilities = calculate_karma_likelihood(total_bad_karma, total_good_karma)
outcome = random.choices(
["positive", "negative"],
weights=[probabilities["positive_event"], probabilities["negative_event"]]
)[0]
return f"A {outcome} event is likely to happen!"
total_bad_karma = 30
total_good_karma = 70
likelihoods = calculate_karma_likelihood(total_bad_karma, total_good_karma)
print(f"Likelihoods: {likelihoods}")
event_outcome = determine_event(total_bad_karma, total_good_karma)
print(event_outcome)
lol
Hi Rich, I got 0.4 ILV for the leaderboard spot, is this last week's income? because we haven't received the reward for 3 weeks, just a question for understanding, thanks@wide swan
This is for feb 13 on the sheets
We will be doing the rest in a bit they got the first one done so once they get the rest of the ILV the rest should be pretty quick
and we are already working on getting the minting of the wave 3 lb rewards tested and ready
the total ILV for the Wave 3 LB split was 3320 ILV
And ILV up 5% on the news ๐
up because everything went up a little bit.. ๐
@potent tulip ,When are we getting any updates on lynx slots changes and wave 4 date? If we have a target to start the wave 4 exactly 1 month after wave 3 ends then we have only 10 days left...
there is no way they will launch wave 4 any time soon
Will get an answer to at least the timing of wave 4 tonight
hopefully
yep, a firm date is great..makes no sense to rush it now as we are still fixing wave 3 issues
Im Glad Im always asleep when thing down down I got my partial rewards so no need for me to ask questions you lot already did and got answer so I can have a peacefull morning coffee......good morning all ๐
Did we only get rewards for 1 week? Why don't we get everything right away?
When do we get the rest of the rewards?
Lets wait and see if we get everything today
Iโm planning on having a shower before I sleep and hope for something ๐๐๐
chances are almost 0 for it...
Do you think there will ever come a time when what they say will be true? Maybe it's a personal thing, but I was taught to keep my promises. ๐ So what's up now? Are we there for them or are they there for us? We have to beg for every little reward that is not even a fraction of our investment. During the week, there is only preaching. On the weekend, we are not allowed to disturb the gentlemen because they are resting...I just wish I knew what they were tired of...
these things also push people away...
I would like to apologize, I didn't mean to offend. But everyone is frustrated and they are right
I am ๐ฏ with you @sick perch . You don't need to be sorry in expressing your frustration. I also feels the same... Lets hope that they see these comments and possibly focus on improving the delivery...
none of this matters if the game flops.. maybe they should keep focusing on the more important things 
agree, yet the only thing making money for them currently is Beyond so they should give it some dedicated attention and get the payouts done to keep this ecosystem active...it has been dead since the end of wave 3.
Wen payout
Yeah I understand the frustration, maybe if I explain why things took longer than expected that would help but basically with the cutbacks we lost the guy that regularly handled this so some one else had to take over but we could use the previous scripts as the people doing this didnt write those current scripts so needed to make their own, while all this was going on the bybit hack happened which prevented ilv from being transferred out of SAFE and even still having intermittent issues.
All that being said now we got the test scripts done and distributed the ilv from feb 13
Now we need to securely transfer the rest of the ilv so they can execute the rest of the ious
Tonight we are testing minting the lb nft rewards too
so we are looking at tomorrow not today for the rest of the rewards? Fine, but just good to know ๐
And should the weekly rewards go smoothly once this is all settled?
Thank you very much for the answer and explanation. Communication and honesty are very important.We also understand that sometimes things don't go as planned, just don't make it a regular occurrence. ๐ I hope I didn't offend you, that wasn't my intention. Have a nice day and good job to you. ๐ค๐ค๐ฅ
Iโm hoping it can be settled today but yes they should be back to smooth distributions after this week hopefully
No offense taken, I understand the frustrations
Fuck me this sounds very bleak
Concerning. I hope illuvium finds the retention it needs
It would be more concerning if we had no security processes for sending out ILV
Wave 4 date?
Will try to get a lock down from Marketing and Councils and then post an update with some info about the changes we plan
this was one of the parting gifts of Svetlana :}
i'm gonna collect all of them. Dunno why, but Svetlana BAE Illuvium artist
awesome Expressions!
This Terralynx is gorgeous! 
the Lynx line are my favourite by far inerms of looks thats why we need a better albumn for them to show case them more
They really are incredible. The Terralynx are my favourite of them, I really love the hard rock with the soft fur as well as the colour.
They're here!! 
That Adorius is absolutely gorgeous. Congrats on it.
Yes they are out
Congrats
is it supposed to be today ?
so just for some clarfication , when will we get the rewards for each week and when will we get the rewards for wave 3 ? thanks! oh and when will we know about wave 4 ?
looks awesome
Nice!!! They should make an announcement so the whole community can see too.
most of them don't even include it in the album.. with 4700 power it's the worst of those included. It will be happy at #6 in the W3 chart. Now do you understand why it should have been given holo at least to the top 10? For some it will be correct like this.. too bad most of the best albums are on sale... who knows why?!?
<@&795142782133207063>
do we have any news on wave 3 rewards?
spicy
8144 !!! Is that the highest power of all illuvitars currently
These look insane๐ don't put any clown noses on them.
Wave 3 rewards should be finished up today
Could work ๐คช
thanks for the information
Oh may
Are you in a funny mood bro ๐คช๐
Just glad to be able to have a lil fun in beyond โบ๏ธ
The joy will soon increase if we get the reward today ๐๐ค
Hoping so
Beyond Weekly Rewards Are All Caught Up Officially
- Next up: Wave 3 LB Final Payout 3320 ILV
Alexa banking in today
Thanks I noticed by checking the price
Beyond Wave 3 Leaderboard Final ILV Rewards Paid Out
All rewards arrived.
Thank you ๐๐๐ฅ
I got only the weekly rewards, no wave 3 lb rewards maybe it will take some time?
Dm me your address
me too only the weeklies, wave 3 nothing..
Wave 3 LB Specifc Payout
Ok sorry had an issue
some have not gone out
but they are sorting now
OK thank you
Will we get the rewards today?
I didn't receive wave 3 ilvs on my spacelover address
Are you in that 73 ILV window?
All seriousness tho thatโs my fave illuvitar everโฆ minus my aesthetic additions ๐
basically only those from no. 6 to no. 10 in window 74 got stuck
Yes it appearrs only 15 ppl got stuck
the 73.04 payouts and the 16.6 payouts
will be sorted soon
did you pay out yesterday's reward also?
And thanks for you work on all this โค๏ธ
Yes all weekly rewards are caught up
@inner quest@sharp sigil@dull pilotYou should all be good now
got it ๐
Yay
lol
we are all caught up officially
thank you for your patience guys
and shoutout to @bold nova @fading saddle and @feral widget and @raven stone
for helping get it done
and @old reef and @candid bloom of course
shit and @rigid gust lol
a bunch of ppl
we did it
Thank you to Rich.
thank you very much everything is ok
@wide swan
thanks but we dont even know what the rewards where for wave 3 ? How much eth was made in wave 3, so we can check how amny tokens we should have got, is that possible to show and how many tokens for leaderboard should we have got ? thanks
ah thanks
how many weeks did we not have rewards for leaderboard, thanks !
5 weeks were paid out between yesterday and today: Feb 13, Feb 20, Feb 27, March 6, March 13
Wave 3 LB Rewards โ
Wave 3 NFT Rewards โ
Is this Sear or Kukkaraph
Sear for sure ๐
hey @potent tulip will lynxes expressions be introduced with w4 or some time before? or not decided yet?
We definitely want to get that in - but it might be during the wave if its not before.
Is it possible to know when wave 4 starts? ๐
waiting for confirm still ๐ฆ
no problem. I'm really looking forward to and curious about the new illuvitars ๐ Will the price of the disks be the same as in wave3?
as it stands right now i dont think things will change ๐
When can we see all the illuvitars that will be in wave 4? ๐คช
You can see all the illuvitars in the album 
Black and white, maybe. But they are there
Saving up my pennies so I can afford Steve's modeling photos.๐
Every time I say that I won't buy anything from the next wave of Illuvitars and then leaks come and I am saying, "maybe just a couple".
noice ๐
I don't know if it's allowed or not, so here's a tease :p
You can probably do that with some AI tool
Don't though, Rogier will fire me
Time for me to go to the album and screenshot all the ones over there ๐คฃ
Soon my new PFP
@finite zealot we are finally getting CARABLUUU!!!! 
Pretty sure that's illegal Garf
Ooo only one t5s3 this wave
there are only 6 as far as i know. so in 5 waves there was always only going to be a single wave with 2
Drop rates will feel more like wave two then
I really liked w3 drop rates tbh so we will have to get used to a little less good stufff
there wasn't a higher chance of getting a T5
I know!!! Dan told me that she would be in this wave and SHE IS!!!!
I am so excited.
time to get all 3 expressions holo :]
No, but just the nature of having two t5s3 at a particular rate doubles the chanceโฆ
not true!
but yeah the odds were slightly better in wave 3.
Then itโs placebo XD
But if the pool has overall higher value illuvitars you will get higher value in general
in wave 3 we had 0.4% chance for a T5
With 2 stage 1s, and 1 stage 2, as well as 2 stage 3's you have 9+9+3+1+1 points in the pool. and your T5 S3 would have a 2/24 to be pulled, so 2/24*0.4%.
This next wave we have 0.4% chance for a T5
with only a single Stage 1, Stage 2 and stage 3. So that's 9+3+1 = 14. so now you have a 1/14x0.4% of getting a T5 S3
Which indeed is slightly worse than the 1/12x0.4% that we had in wave 3.
on TV they have better results 
Well you can use this one now too for free๐ง
I always felt a bit ripped off that the Waterbuffalo line was T1 but now I am really happy about it. They won't kill me for price. Which is good considering what
I am going to have to spend for Steve and Octavia's photos.

Thank you for the math ๐
My feelers confirm
who was Octavia?
monarch? artace?
Octius of course!๐
This is my beautiful sparkly girl Octavia. She is a bit cranky and likes to fry individuals who annoy her but I love her. Do you see how close she was to 60 when they shut down OW. She needed one more day.... I keep telling her soon.
ohhhhh wow, she's a beaut!
Will you aim for all 3 expressions holo? ๐
She is also my favourite Illuvitar. Perfection!
You might just have replaced my pfp ๐
It's so good. Svetlana knocked it out the park
This one In DH would be insane.
I bought some cheap ETH. If it goes up before Wave 4 then I can girl math my husband into the fact that I am getting Illuvitars for free so let's all hope we get a pump for at least one day.
first illuvitar i found back when we did Infoluvial ๐
One of the first 1 was shown when I joined the team. Insane that it's taken so long to come out!
I have had the Carablu Illuvitar for my homescreen on my phone for years. It's exciting to see these old ones finally made. 
At least....
Is it confirmed fixed price again? if so, yes let eth rock.
And often we can treat crypto like casino chips so spending them is easier than money, if you have them. So another reason for market recover (as well as ILV) is so people feel like "gambling" ๐
ps is the hubby into crypto or games at all? Or just look at you strange shaking their head like my partner ๐
I think it will be done with fuel which will be bought at a fixed ETH price. Not 100% sure though.
Yes, there have been studies done which involved giving people tokens for money and then looking at their purchasing habits. There's a reason that casinos use chips for sure. The human brain is a funny thing. We like to all pretend we are rational but we aren't really.๐
Ah, my poor husband. No, he doesn't play any games at all. He is a traditional investor. I was the one who was into crypto. We got into Illuvium purely as an investment. Bought tokens and I was just going to be on Discord to see when game launched, collect some early Illuvials and then sell them when the game became big.
It all went very wrong because the more I hung out on Discord the more I started getting excited about the game. That was not supposed to happen.
Now I am playing, naming Illuvials and making him lasagna while wearing tight fitting outfits while I explain girl math about ETH for Illuvitar sales.
Really, it's all taken a bit of a weird turn. So, yeah, he does look at me a bit strange and says things like, "please don't even tell me what that cost us."
He's mostly supportive though because he says the more time I spend playing and hanging out here the fewer cow sales I go to and that Illuvials don't require him to spend his Saturday afternoons helping me put in more fences.
ha ha I hear you.
I got into Beyond just to help out the DAO on it's launch and then got addicted. I, like you, thought this might even be a good investment. Now I view it as a hobby and therefore justify the cost that way lol
But part of the enjoyment is discord and the beyond community....glad you are part of it ๐
And this is much more portable than a cow ๐
Awww...thanks, I am glad you are here too. Yeah, I am having a lot of fun with the game and the community is definitely part of the fun.
I needed a hobby that was a little less hard on the body than all my farm stuff. 
My partner loves chess, so she is often the only female there lol I say the same, go have fun playing with the boys ๐
Sign of a good relationship I believe, having common interests and then also supporting each other to explore interests alone โค๏ธ
We can't be it all to anyone
Has it been confirmed when we are going to get the wave 4 release date announced?
it's been confirmed that they are thinking about eventually confirming a potential release date for wave 4 ๐
Good evening everyone so much waiting for the rewards, arrived I changed them and they entered my metamask and they took away all the ETH be careful, I turn you the number of the wallet that cheated me I hope it doesn't matter to you too, and please tell me how to change the metamask wallet connected to Illuvium (to make a new one) thank you so much
You might want to contact support or post in community help
I'm not so practical I accept all kinds of advice in the meantime I'll take some photos and I'd like to disconnect Metamask and then make a new one
@wide swan , can you guide him? Its some kind of scam happened with him.
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You should first revoke all the permissions you may have for that wallet so that they can't do it anymore
Then disconnect your metamask wallet from illuvium site. @wide swan can guide you there
yes maybe I want to disconnect it as soon as possible before it does any more damage
the only update made to the computer is the Overworld testenet.... let's hope they didn't enter from there...
I feel sorry for you friend... tomorrow I'll send you something to your address...
check out what Rich posted, do you have any uniswap wallets connected?
Amen sista
this I love it looks exactly like my wife when she angry and wants something ๐
Ima never updaing again utill launch ...at least then I dont have to suffer and can learn the game ๐
not sure why dao won't benefit by letting people use ILV to buy illuvitars...yes they can spend eth, but if they get some cheap ilv back in the dao reserve for future fund raising in could be a homerun
I thought that they liquidate into stables to avoid the risk of holding tokens, even ETH.
interesting..didn't know that. At some price does holding the tokens make more sense? But I guess that is a play on the market, and also now they, rightfully so, are paying employees in stables vs ilv. Giving ILV away at this price, assuming the project is revitalized
The price of the token does not matter
From what it seemsโฆ unified fuel
Will mean only fuel all across the board
it sure does to me ๐
yeah be interesting to see how all this works...and also probably part of the delay in wave 4
i meant that the token price does not dictate if the DAO will hold stables or ilv
Testnet seems to all work pretty smoothly.
But someone made a good pointโฆ once they start integrating Stripe for payments that will all be off chain. How can we know about revenue without transparent financials?
lots to find out....and then maybe a chain move? IMX makes no sense now and perhaps we can get incentives to move to another, better chain.
Impressed we haven't seen wholesale dumping...the $500 bonded ophisto was a good deal though..maybe for both people ๐
there are some good deals on old promo illuvitars for those of you who want to move up some on LB
And I always thought they look great anyway
@potent tulip thinking about your adding of albums for lynx expressions and love to see them done before wave 4 since that looks like it won't happen any time soon. It seems like each grouping could have their own album, like the hydrolynxes, emberlynxes, etc. but I would also keep the lynx album as it is in addition, like t0's have thier own albums and then best ones of each kind go in the zero album. Thoughts?
lets go to abstract @smoky verge
Abstract?
I found that comment abstract
How'd you get this pic of Kieran working on gauntlet?
There is still no information about wave 4? I thought it would start a month after wave 3
I would guess at least a month from now but word is we might hear a date "soon" ๐
Maybe it will start when leaderboard rewards for arena start
Ideally, we should have started wave 4 on 22nd march as per the latest in last hyper episode with keiran and rogier. They clearly said that art is ready for wave 4 and they dont want to delay it and stick to plan to do it 1 month after the wave ends. I still don't get that "what is taking longer now?" @wide swan / @potent tulip
A few things are hinging on this, between the re launching arena, and the promo partner and wave 4 beyond upgrades ie lynx collection etc
and probably fuel to buy disks
I thought this was already done when they said all good to go for wave 4.
Oh are you brand new to Illuvium? ๐
Maybe not following closely on matter related to fuel to purchase disks. I thought it was ready...
What's the plan with migration of multiple fuels to one fuel?
Will the old fuels be usable in wave 4 sale? (Either directly or via migration)
Planned is the new fuel.
Old fuel gets converted into new fuel.
Planned was a conversion Rate of 1:89 which is now unclear what it will be until we see the new proposal.
There was a discussion about it in:
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1346770169871073311
Aware of that just wondering if it happens for Wave 4.
Should.
On testnet you buy beyond disks with fuel currently.
But will the old fuels be convertible to the new fuel in time for wave 4? I only ask because even at 89:1 I have a lot.
Should ๐
I guess we will soon get an Update about everything wave 4
we do!
Written an announcement/blog - which can now be published after we've had some meetings/decisions being made by the people with vilv's . ๐
Is there any info about when are we getting the reward of wave 2 diskplate handsigned squizz ๐๏ธโ๐จ๏ธ๐?
I know they were printing them
so a claim shouldnt be do far out
looking forward to hanging mine @potent tulip
ouch...for what value added?
December Council Compensation (paid in ILV) 102,120
I could see about 10% of this
looking forward to wearing my watch
when does that happen?
They have shipped to Netherlands is what Iโm told
In transit
Is it happening today?
Hi everyone/ @wide swan, anyone faced situation were ilv token were sent from cex to ethereum network but address was imx passport address. So now ilvs are on ethereum network with address same as imx passport address and i dont own ethereum address. Is it possible to recover the ilvs from that ethereum address to my imx passport address? I am trying to help @lilac olive who has sent ilvs from cex to ethereum erc20 address but the address he put was of my imx passport
Resolved it... I needed to login to play.immutable.com with my imx passport account and then i can select ethereum network in which ilvs are seating and then i can transfer to my own eth wallet . @lilac olive , we are all good now
yeah one of the few things imx did fix for ilv...I had the same issue last year
glad you are all squared
still love to see a burn mechanism for illuvitars..maybe to turn into fuel
Hehehe never into fuel
Maybe into stretch goal points
zzzzzzzzzz ๐ด
Hehe it has been quiet in here as of late ๐
looking forward to that blog ๐
What do you think buring illuvitars should yield?
I'm looking forward to that too.
Tough one that, I can't see it being fuel. I know Ratty mentioned stretch goals, which could be doable, but doesn't excite me and I do kind of hope they make stretch goals more difficult to achieve not easier.
I would hope that there would be a better more worthwhile mechanic at some point. It may become clearer as all of the games go live, but that could be a wait too long for some. Not sure.
agree stretch goals should be tough to achieve, and maybe back to buying disks direct from ilv not opening, so we don't have all the secondary activity of dumping silv bought disks and perhaps not all the disks being opened flooding the market with illuvitars. And certainly, don't change midstream with no consultation to double points cheaping everything without benefit to all.
What about something like you burn 1000 illuvitars you get a free unique illuvitar, and then tiers from more burning with the rarity of the illuvitar going up? Costs nothing to the dao, still achievable for all and man we would burn though a lot of clown noses ๐คก
This would increase scarcity and also potentially movement in beyond ecosystem.
Ironically could also increase disk sales...or maybe instead of special illuivtar you get a standard disk for so many burns, but needs to be a high number.
ie cost of buying illuvitars to burn in secondary is double or more cost of just buying disk with fuel or eth.
I imagine you alone could burn though 10's of thousands lol
Itโs going to be tough in terms of supply for the next wave and maybe more. Ilv likely hit a bottomโฆ meaning silv2 is going to reign supreme for value if Ilv climbs back up. So youโll see a lot of disks from stretch, plus gotten for very cheap if Ilv goes up to 50 or 100. Imo w4 is going to be the cheapest to get into and prob good for newbies since fuel will be used.
We might have misunderstood when they say next wave is 1 month after the current wave ends. They meant next wave date will be revealed 1 month after the wave ends... ๐๐
Yes it wouldve come today but we just wanna give some space for the arena update that happened
maybe just share it here first for feedback/anything missing or not clear and then send it out as an email?
hey mates anyone having issue purchasing stuff on openmarket? - just noticed probably is imx issue.
anyone here playing new arena? Thoughts?
Probably get more arena talk in #๐ฎใilluvium-arena
I trust my beyond bros for the clean feedback ๐
What do you think of the new arena play, as an insider? ๐
what I want to hear is it's amazing, not the issues. We need that side to work also, not just beyond
I unfortunately donโt have a computer to play it. My Mac is no longer supported. 
is this a phone ready version?
and damn, lots of mac users out there
They stopped supporting Mac around Novemberโฆ part of cost cutting afaik. But yah Mac user here too.
for sure a lot of mac users out there, i heared it's in general a good flex having one and at some places you even get bullied if you don't flex one.
But in gaming it's really a minority according to dev studios and cgpt.
Yah I think in the beginning Illuvium wanted AAA everything and on every platform... but reality is what it is. And supporting mac is a luxury not a necessity.
Thereโs not a phone ready version yet
If someone bullies you for not having a Mac thereโs 100% chance theyโre regarded. Thatโs coming from someone who has one
Usually it's the opposite from my experience XD
Na, bullying someone for not using your computer of choice is goofy
I do often feel attacked for my Mac. I wonโt name names like @serene python
My son used to give me so much shit for being a mac guy. He even built me a pc to try and convert me.
A free pc? You won that battle lol
Will there be rewards in the arena like here in Beyond? ๐
I canโt justify spending more money on waves
If ILV performs or reward distribution increases then itโs a maybe but as a whole I am tapped out
yeah this will be the first wave I pass on too unfortunately
lol wave 4
hey
is the card game playable right now?
announcing wave 4 before catching up on rewards from wave 3 is mega sus ngl
Rewards are caught up
As long as the market is dead like it is now and no new players are coming i dont really understand why anyone would want a wave 4. Even more jpegs nobody buys.
Besides today
i never got my watch
which should go out any minute
Those are in transit to rogier
then you guys will be able to claim the,
i moved, so ill need to update my shipping address, will i have an opportunity to do so when we claim them?
yes