#🎮〕illuvium-beyond
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tbf i think it was worth it in my case cause i got some really nice stuff but normally its prob a loss if you open compared to selling them
top 8 btw cause sec adress is burn adress
Yo guys alpha in every wave doesn't make any sense?
why not?
? how not? next wave the characters are different except for tier 0......alphas are the first of every wave
alphas are basically the 1st edition prints of each wave. Not 'alpha' in the sense that its the first wave, othewise this whole wave would be alpha.
yeah otherwise Rhamphyre would be the only T5 S3 alpha that would ever exist that would be stupid^^
Yes I thought so. I remember someone ask the same.
i want that alpha ophisto to go alongside my suizz 😁
ohh duhhh
imagine him in holo 
what in the world
that looks like a Squizz
or kinda
with the tentacles.
Stage 3 of suizz yeah 😉
sheesh
those are the Illuvials right?
they have nothing to do with the (ilivtars) correct?
oh my dear god those are awesome
i just hope there is demand in each area.
yeah illuvitars of them will obv look different but they are the same characters
gimme the polar bears pronto
just look at Headi... nobody can say no to him 
haha so true...even cuter than groot ❤️
well baby groot anyway, not so much big groot 😛
as in big groot is not cute at all...nevermind haha
he still kinda cute though, gentle giant
unless your his enemy xD
haha yep
I see it now...the hype 😮
so sexy and cool, i wanna hug them but the will eat me
Ophisto will grill you with his shockpowers 
Ophisto is a Tier 5 stage 3 tough, so it will be tuff out there
That one was scrapped unfortunately as the illuvial design was redone, so you're probably safe :p
i will strangle ophisto straight up if he try anything ✊
just found this
oh dang..where u findin this stuff?
IlluvialMaster
alrighty then...is the site made by illuvium or is it somebody gathering info?
second
you can also check out the estimatet value of your whole illuvitar collection there if you go to Collection and paste in your adress
really cool feature imo
but take it with a grain of salt^^
alright..im guessing the estimates are probably off though because there is so much variation and too little price data
exactly but it should be kinda accurate if theres a lot of data... so for frequently traded things
If anyone wants to join the church of squizzz I’d highly recommend it
even if it’s non holo
Id co sided picking up one
They cheap rn
It’s legit already a community of the tier 5 gang
130k total illuivtars and there’s like less than 100 squizz
like only 20-30 holo one too
I havnt checked in a bit and I know there has been at least 1 more that was pulled
i need alpha squizz immediate
honestly just get a normal squizz
alphas super cool yeah, but anything set 1 is dope dope
im pretty sure theres more than 100 squizz tho^^
I know a few people that are being sneaky rn and buying up all “certain kinds” of avatars atm
i counted about 840 squiz of all expressions and finishes in total.
In total total yeah
I’m talking alpha / holo
ya imma try get holo alpha squizz..wait for drunk person to list low
Ahahah
yeah theres 19 of them
gonna be hard to get one of these bad boys
if somebody was smart and rich they would buy up all the alpha non holo squizz
and the holo squizz since they rich
not sure if i would go for squizz tho... if i had the money id prob start with swiping the floor of those alpha rhamphyres^^
or just buy everything and wipe out the whole market...damn being super rich would be fun...just do anything you want
Squizz just has the community
Let me put this into perspective
would be interesting to know how much eth it would take to buy up almost every illuvitar if they were all listed for kinda reasonable prices...
The Rhamphyres will have rank 2 and rank 1 of itself still set to release
You can expect them to be almost identical in amount that are found just like squizz
And vise versa
yeah dont get me wrong i also like the squizz line more and i think most ppl do so but right now Rhamphyre is the only S3 T5 so its more rare atm
atleast a million dollars probably
which is nothing to some people...just drop a mill and hoard all the squizz for fun
then send everything else to a burn wallet
only squizz survive
think i would like that one as a profile picture...
Buying d1sks has always been instant (except for first few hours of the launch party...). But it's been 15 minutes and they're not showing up. Immutascan does confirm my sILV was used to pay for them. But on the Illuvidex it just says I bought 1 disk and sold it to myself (like what...?). Not showing up on Tokentrove either. Any known glitch going on?
Coincidentally I purchased 15 too. Exactly 20 minutes ago (according to Immutascan).
lol my buddy also bought 15. maybe it has something against the number 15\
Having imx/illuvidex issues also
I figure they will show up but was worth mentioning it. Just weird that it says I bought one and sold it to myself...
I just bought Standard d1sk and it is not showing up but it deducted SILV2 from my account
what's up
is there a problem here?
HOLY crap.. we've been ... punked
LOL
Will probably sort itself out, but some kind of announcement/acknowledgement of the issue is always nice.
Meanwhile you guys could just try to buy some of my listed d1sks on the second hand market? 
You're right. Just bought one on Tokentrove but not showing up either. Purchase was confirmed though. With ETH this time.
Yes my friend tried eth as well
Polygon jinxed us.
One of my listings did sell a few minutes ago. Can't confirm if I actually got the Eth though.
The d1sk I bought on TT with ETH to test just showed up. The ones I bought on the Illuvidex with sILV2 aren't there yet.
are you guys buying these from the secondary market or minting fresh ones?
Both, Bought 15 to mint with sILV2. After 20 minutes or so, tried to buy one on secondary market (TokenTrove), with ETH. The ETH one just showed up a few minutes ago. Opening was no issue (except for bad pulls...). The minted ones haven't shown up yet. Bonding also doesn't work it seems.
Does it show them on immutascan if you check your address?
I described the situation a few scrolls above. But seems like it's sorted now. Still weird Illuvidex activity said I bought one and sold it to myself, while immutascan did show the full sILV purchase of 15. But it's resolved now. Not sure about the bonding issues though.
sounds like a frontend issue with the Illuivdex of some kind. You can always submit a bug report
?support
For support, bug reports, and feedback, please use the following methods to contact us:
- Bug reporting: http://link.illuvium.io/bug
- Feedback: http://link.illuvium.io/feedback
- General requests: email us at support@illuvium.io
Yeah, I know. But too many bugs to report atm. Most of which the team (probably) can't help with. So all's good.
i love how the eye coins for the rypter is just 1 big coin xD
The meme glasses are also funny on Rypter
You got a steal. I have one ones these and wouldn't let it go for less than $400
agreed...2264 power level..damn son...people sleepin on the emberlynx...and the art is awesome.
which one you got by the way? and how u got it?
damn really? huge steal
Sorry wrong one. Mine looks the same but not an alpha
the blue looks really good with it too
Power is 2284
mine says 2264, not sure whats the difference
and what happened where it sold for .22 eth...you sold it after?
oh nevermind..i think thats a different one that sold for .22....i see yours now, .042 eth lol
so lucky
and ya both ours say power is 2264 just checked
haha all good
i was kinda mad for a second that yours would be 20 points higher for no reason 😆
you got anything else really good?
ya
i got a really rare archie
alpha holo angry archie with shardbluff background
a few of my other sweet alpha holos 🥳 
kukka so vibrant especially with the tier 4 bg's love the kukka
ya when i get a holo squizz imma do it
nice. holo squizz is holy grail!
truuu i need me one somehow
we need to fud squizz to bring down the price temporarily lol
squizz is a demon and all who believe in him will be cursed for eternity...spread the word...bring down the squizz
FUD THE SQUIZZ....FUD THE SQUIZZ
Wen leaderboard?
Love it
I agree
No way thats crazy im so jealous
Daily volume of marketplace is almost dead. Whats happening with illuvium beyond? Why not much activity on marketplace?
Started on 7th march with 70eth and today less than 1 eth.
That Kukka... 
Thoughts on keeping the leaderboard top 100 or opening it up to the top 500?
only opened one mega lol
top 100 with 'view more' to 500
Had you heard about the trading rewards? #📣〕announcements message
I didn't know it. I was collecting a lot of illuvitars since 7th march. Am i eligible for rewards? Do i get anything for items i bought on illuvium marketplace?
Your imx wallet will be airdropped imx tokens on imx network if eligible. Not sure when though.
Do i need to register my wallet anywhere or just buying illuvitar automatically eligible for imx airdrpp?
Alpha Bored Water Fliish #437 (.015eth) https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0x8cceea8cfb0f8670f4de3a6cd2152925605d19a8/437
I like top 100 ....makes people try harder to get on the leaderboard and is more exclusive and I agree with what david said, top 100 given most visibility but with a button you can click to view more
top 500 would seem too cluttered in my opinion
So does this only count for “purchases”
Of listed items from secondary?
If we bought cards from the dex Will this count towards that?
Really hoping that just being and using the illuivium dex and buying counts
I never used the IMX site
Me too ✋️
I just checked on immutablex site and i can confirm that if you buy directly on illuvium dex without doing anything directly on immutablex then its ok and you must have rewards on your wallet
I got 460 imx in my wallet
How do I check my wallet?
And do D1sks count?
Plz say yes
I bought like 700
I didn’t see the D1sk like collection thing so idk
I think trade counted on any marketplace so disk bought on illuvium dex should be fine. Its still transaction on imx anyway
Niceee how do I check the wallet then? I only have my MetaMask
Sorry man I’m new to IMX
You can go and check on immutablex site and see if you got any rewards
Thats ok. You just connect your metamask on immutablex site and follow instructions
Okay I’ll try
I looked on IMX scan
To see if tokens popped up but I didn’t see any for my address
I’ll connect now
hmm guessing this didnt work?
I'd guess you'd have some tokens. For the launch week all illuvium collections had exclusive rewards.
Hmm... maybe. Luckily i got some rewards
Not sure
immutascan dot io and check your address.
Hmm. Can we allow immutascan links? Since we're on IMX?
i did nothing
so wack
i spent like a ton of no joke
xD
like 5-6 eth
Did you only mint?
i minted most but bought like 200 d1sk of secondary too
Trading rewards are for trading
Hmm. That's strange then. I definitelly got some when I flipped some disks.
Maybe you bought outside of the window. Which marketplace did you use?
just illivums dex
i didnt sell anything tho
only bought
maybe it will come in on this next friday
Hmm. Now when I check the elligible collections, the disks are not there. But I'm pretty sure it was different on launch week.
When did you do the trading?
from the 16th to the 19th
Went to immutable's discord to get this.
I think you missed it 😦
Currently rewards are earned only for what's inside the disks, not the disks themselves.
dang thats brutal xD
so anything I trade now will count tho correct?
i didnt see how long it lasts.
I only got like 5 IMX rewards and I also bought a bunch
The rewards are not like that much. People are wash trading a lot to farm them.
You can see random NFTs trade for 10k, just to get the volume and the reward farming.
how many more days does this last
i have no trade volume
but io have all these buys
so wack
This explains why trading dropped suddenly in last 5 days
it's a bit hidden. If you don't have such transactions in you last 20 transactions, you have to click "Find more transactions"
sorry for the questions
but its dont now right?
if i went to buy some more secondary illivitars
it wouldnt count?
Currently it will be. This is a live screenshot of the elligible collections.
No need to feel sorry. We're glad to help. Especially when someone is so engaged and wants to know more. 
i appreciate it
i havnt sold anything xD
im here for it all
and top 8 holder rn
if that means anything
idk
It sure does
I see strong hands. I applaud. @fleet totem
Came in out of no where straight to the top
is there a way to see what the top peoples points are at somehow now or is that info not available till leaderboard?
No we don´t have any numbers untill the leaderboard is out. we only know 2 community members have Diamond Rank
oh okay thnx...also is there any word on when further utility will be introduced or any word on what some of the benefits/utilities will be? I seen a bit of speculation but do u know of any info as of even a short term timeline...such as do u think we will know alot more and possibly have introduced some more things before the next wave in 2 months?
there are no officall informations for more benefits or utilities out yet. only speculations from community members.
oh okay , all good, will wait and see then....where is the best place to look for updates? just here? or is there like a specific illuvitar information boad or something or twitter or something?
ya here and #📣〕announcements also a good place is illuvium.io/news
okay then thank you 👍
your welcome 
i hate when i see a good card at a good price and i check and its not alpha
i was so excited when that showed up on newly listed and then i check and not alpha....noooooooooo
im gonna try to buy out as many alpha non holo grinning epherlynx as i can over a span of weeks and then put a clown nose on all of them and list them all on the market at once 🔥 🔥 🔥 if anybody wanna copy my amazing idea let me know and select a different card to do it with and we will coordinate the mass clowning of the market
Anyone get to Diamond tier yet?
I believe 2 people did
wow. how many points to get to diamond?

Still pretty amazing imo
Thank you. I have a ton that are alphas too. Having so much fun with this. Cant wait for leaderboard
Finally completed all the holos, just need that Rhamphyre 1 of 2 
Thats already really impressive, you would surely be the first one to have everything in holo... but im not sure if those guys will ever sell their rhamphyres 😅
I have a feeling that they wont let them go either. I wouldn't.
Even if they did, the price would likely be too high.
Can always hope though. Something to aim for 
Yeah and theres still a chance to get another one either by pulling it or by buying it from the auction... but eitherway its not gonna be cheap 
Im happy that i pulled a non holo out of my few alpha disks... nothing more i could have wished 😁
uff you are crazy!!
Extremely lucky to have gotten even the non holo. Very rare pull. Congrats!
Hehhehe, I do try 😂
Another extreme rare pull would be any illuvitar with a tier 5 stage 3 background (72 minted in total) - these are even rarer than rhamphyres (86 minted in total). i know it's not a straight comparison but in terms of rarity i think it's interesting
Does anyone know what determines the number of sILV2 you need to spend to buy a disk? Is it the ratio of ETH to ILV?
Before it was 0.57 sILV2 for a mega, now it is 0.64
Prices are in ETH, so find a dollar value for the current ETH price. Then convert that price to sILV2.
It does depend on ETH prices and ILV prices.
Thanks!
People are still sleeping on backgrounds. A tier 5 backgrounds has 0.5 % chance. Stage 3 7.7% and then you also have the odds of the illuvitar itself.
The higher tier illuvitars with this background are way rarer then rhamphyres
Absolutely -> and after you have the 0.5% chance of getting that Tier 5 bg there's also a small chance of getting it stage 3
So far only ~0.0006% of all 137k illuvitars have a Tier 5 Stage 3 bg.. if that isn't rare i don't know what is 😄
Some illuvitars will properly only get 1 mint with this backgrounds
0.0006% this is pretty sick
Indeed -> so far these haven't been minted with a T5 Stage 3 bg: Axon, Goliant, Rhamphyre, Adoredo, Singe and Geyyser
it's 0.05% i think, there's 70ish tier 5 stage 3bg
Correct 😄 ... to be more precise then -> only 0.00041% of all illuvitars minted so far have a T5 Stage 3 background
no... 72 / 137000 = 0.00052 = 0.052% have t5 s3 bg
Okay okay .. 0.0004 - 5 - 6% ... still EXTREMELY rare 😄
How mamy discs opened? Or buying on secondary?
I opened approx 350 megas and purchased some individually on secondary.
It does work out cheaper to just buy what you want rather than running the odds of trying to pull it.
Either d1isks are way over priced or illuvitars are way under priced, but something is off right now. If a holo is 1 in 10, getting an alpha holo out of a disk will set you back $900 approx, yet they are selling for $50
. Makes them an extreme bargain.
yeah i wonder what the average value of a pack is, seems to be around 1/10th of what it costs
think a good strategie is buying a few disks like 20-40 megas or so and see what you get and complete the rest by buying it off the market....
that way you have the chance of getting something good but not too many doubles and still should be able to comlete it... maybe not all holo but still^^
Yes and opening them is a fun thing to do, so you do also have to factor in the entertainment value.
Much more rewarding to pull one than to just buy it off the market.
absolutely but its still always a gamble wether you make up for it or not^^
if you just have a few disks you might not get that one lucky drop that makes up for a lot of disks but hey thats why were doing this right? we love the gamble 😁
Exactly, the probabilities alone say we wont, but we do it because we enjoy the possibilities that we might just get the grail we're after.
btw IlluvialMaster has a really cool new feature... you can check your opened disks and see whats the estimated value of those 😄
that way you can kinda rewind and see if it was worth it or not^^
SO SICK!
Love the holos. Look so good
Cheers!
Is it safe?
To use
Like connecting wallet wise
I’m in the same boat
do you even need to connect? thought i just pastet in my adress in collection
Oh maybe I’ll try
Bitter sweet position to be in
Wow, this is great!
Really is, nice one Olivender for pointing that one out! 👍
I wish the value of my Illuvitars was the one listed on the site though, I have the feeling they wouldn't sell at those prices 
yeah you surely have to take those numbers with a grain of salt but it gives you a rough idea how much it could be
Yes some are high, some are low, it seems to be somewhere in the ball park though, based on recent sales.
Are there pictures of all of the different Illuvium Beyond backgrounds without Illuvitars in front of them anywhere?
Did you just modify the AI tool that estimates the value of your Illuvitars? The total value of my collection just dropped by a c.15% - If so, please keep it up!! I'll feel better if the numbers are high 
Summary of all the leaked Illuvitars so far is also a very nice touch
I did not make this site but the values can vary a bit over time as far as i realized since the programm is adjusting them due to sales listing and also time i think...
My values just went up by like 5% or so since tje last time i watched... depends on what stuff you got 
Nice!
Hello fellow Demonic Squizz 🦑
Cool pfp 😉
got a friend who is interested in selling a full collection of assets, this is the calculated value of it.
dayum
i offered to buy it for 3 eth but he said hes looking for more around the 4.5-5 eth range
so if anyones interested ill hook you up
mines only worth 0.072 eth lol
why are holo slashin so expensive even for non alpha versions holy heck 😮
damn! insanecollection
@delicate delta rekt?
it feels like supply is drying up already for alphas...barely any good stuff lister for deals anymore
Some L’s I am happy to take
Slashin pretty hard to get i think
ya i just checked and only 21 alpha holo versions exist wowzers had no idea they so rare
Final bear trap before 1 Archie = 1 BTC
The line Penguin 0.6%, Affinity Frost 0.6% Class Vanguard 0.6%
i am okay with this 😆 🇱 🇫 🇬 🫂 🇼 🇦 🇬 🇲 🇮 🍻
We need some hype tough
same amount of holo slashin as there is holo squizz
Player base is steadily growing
yeah he sames about just as rare as a squizz
Dunnow why they made a tier 3 so rare
ya dunno, thats why i was so shocked when i seen price haha
But good for me lol
Got the one with the rarest background
Dunnow how to post pïctures
oh damn you lucky s.o.b. that is huge
While it's a very nice feature i don't think the collection valuation is very accurate... i see prices all over the place (higher/lower than listed on the marketplace) ..and also i don't think it takes into consideration background/expression rarity
True. Doesnt seem accurate yet.
No search for background tier 5 set 3
Non holo tough
ohhh non holo i see okay
arguably it's more valuable than the holo version as the T5 Stage 3 background is extremely rare throughout the entire collection so far
purple tier 5? omg thats so sexy....huge money thats worth because alpha
oh no doubt...that one will be very very expensive
Yes purple coins are the stage 1 Tier 5 bg... stage 3 has the golden coins on the bg
yup...i been lookin into backgrounds so knew that..thx for info though
check out my angry archie....super rare for alpha holo to have that background...theres not very many...plus rarest expression....best archie i think
shardbluff bg
This one i meant
ohh ya i totally missed where you said stage 3...only saw tier 5....and wowwww thats one of the coolest illuvitars that exist dammmm its grinnin too
He looks epic with the meme glasses, but not gonna do accessories on him xD
24 alpha holo have shardbluff
dang if this in holo i would offer u so much eth. Sweet pull though🔥
you would need a dump truck of eth if that slashin was holo 😂
Niice... and yeah with the Tier 4 background (shardbluff) sure makes it more valuable
There are only 8 holo illuvitars minted that have also a T5 Stage 3 bg so far
and 72 in total with the T5 S3
im lookin at tier 5background alpha slashin on tokentrove and this one doesnt show up in the minted assets section...any idea why?
are you sure its alpha??? says non alpha on tokentrove
100% it's not alpha..you can look it up on illuvidex aswell
oh i just looked back and they never said it was alpha i thought they did lol okay i over hyped it then by alot but its still awesome though....just not as hugely expensive as alpha would be
There are actually more alphas at the moment -> 37 alpha illuvitars with T5 Stage 3 VS 35 non-alpha with T5 Stage 3
oh i see...that number will change alot though as non alpha packs are still on sale for 2 more months so much more supply incoming for non alpha..much much more
yeah there is that Holo Grinning Arcane Emberlynx Alpha with T5 St 3 listed at 198ETH 😄
lol ya i seen that one yesterday..so lucky whoever has that...jackpot of a card
i don't think the difference will be that big honestly... it depends of course how the sales go .. but i don't think the diiference will be more than double like 75 alphas and 150 non-alphas at the end of end of wave 1
Don't think it will ever sell at that price honestly 😄
hard to tell..i think it will be much more non alpha supply is my guess because i have a feeling they will bring fomo into the market before the sales window for non alpha packs close so people might mass buy them near the end..just a guess...but i feel hype will be much higher 2 months from now
especially if they introduce utility and/or rewards by then before wave 2
im staying away from non alpha in terms of what i want for long term holds thats for sure....i just buy non alpha if they cheap and high powered with accesories for my album...but wouldnt overpay for any...atleast not at this point...would have to see what future looks like after sales are done and how much supply coming in
non alpha i think will be valuable too .. but not as alpha and not as fast. It's not like it's an infinite supply .. we'll see at the end of the wave what are the stats and what is very rare - as they won't be available for minting anymore
I dont really think it matters that mine is not alpha. Its still the only grinnin slashin minted with this background. And chances are there not gonna me many more if any.
The chances of an alpha showing up are even lower
Yep i definitely agree with that
alpha would be much higher price....but as a non alpha it will still be very valuable because you right about that it will still be very unique and very rare and possibly the only 1 like it ever minted
im also think Alpha will be valuable, but I believe it to not be to much
their needs to be more alpha suppy
and to meet a demand
alpha doesnt have that
what i am seeing is only bigger and few holders buying ALL alphas
doesnt distribute the alphas in a matter for growth
so long term my best bet of ROI is on the Set1 Wave1 Non Alphas
(I have a ton of Alphas myselfs)
And also it doesn't matter if there are a few alphas minted if they're not listed for sale
alpha will be much more valuable than non alpha in future..its guaranteed........its lack of supply is what will drive the demand for them and not the other way around...think of alpha magic the gathering cards
^
When lack of supply is controlled by a Minority of a few top holders it doesnt work out to good
I needs to be distributed a little more.
IMO that will help create realistic sales volume and metrics to go off of
otherwise it will be just wide ranges of prices that never have a true floor or set price
Alphas will be good! Just needs little more distribution!
it literally happens in all the popular card games...and it works out very good for holders
heres the thing, All those card games... have Millions of cards that are retrospectively Alpha (status)
alphas currently make up like what 15,000 30k of the cards
There will be illuvitars exactly like that slashin or any other with T5 St3 which won't be ever minted as alpha .. so in that case they only ones in existance will be as non-alphas .. which makes them extremely valuable
I want Alphas to moon trust me
Non alpha that are 1 of kind vs alpha there are many from. I think the non alpha is way better value wise.
just looking at the micro economics etc... is tough rn
there needs to be more demand and way more players and honestly way more cards
no...they dont release any more after they done selling.....alpha magic the gathering cards....first edition pokemon....etc. etc. you cant release more alpha after the fact because that wouldnt be alpha....
it doesn't matter if there are 10-15-100 of the same if they don't exist as alpha .. and will never get the chance of being minted as alpha - they will only exist as non-alphas
theres Alpha Waves every Wave
and you can get the Set1 cards in that wave too
as Alpha
just (Wave 2)
yes the alpha for EACH WAVE....there is alpha for the seperate wave.....meaning the first editions of each wave
no...just tier 0 you can....all other tiers will be different illuvitars
The set 1 arent in the next waves only the tier 0
this is what i said
ROI is what we are talking about
cost of initial D1sk.
vs 5xing or 10xing
I have legit like 200-400 alphas so im here for it either way
D1sk cost mate
we talking about Value
or at least you were
ROI on $5 d1sk to $50 is a bigger ROI
then $25 d1sk to $50
%%
yep .. and if you have a non alpha illuvitar (take the example above with that slashin) very rare with a T5 st3 bg which was never minted as alpha does it make a difference that it s not alpha?
give it a look again mate, youll understand, really deep dive into the economics of the whole market.
Alphas come at a premium.
but ROI might not be at the level ROI would be at on a simple non Alpha d1sk
im hedging both. types, but if you dont understand it its alright, most people dont
Scarcity gives value. So a 1 of kind minted non alpha illuvitar doesn't have less value then alpha´s that are more common.
correct
but you still have to find a buyer
would that ROI be the ROI of a more common one but from a cheaper starting source
thats (all im talking about)
i agree completely that the Scaricty is HUGE
and can lead to good sales
im more interested in ROI %
So that alpha status doesn't matter in all occasions. If its a card that is both alpha and normal then yes the alphas has more value.
yes just because it is a mental thing...people psychologically place more value on something just because of its mystique..in this case being an alpha....atleast most of the time anyways...there would be some exceptions i think....for instance if suddenly 10 of that same card were opened in alpha disks and only 1 remained in non alpha then i would imagine the non alpha version would then become more valuable and have its own mystique/unique value to it
it has more value, yes, but might not actually be the higher ROI %
from disk cost
simply all im getting at
example
you have a ALPHA Holo Squizz
you got it from a mega alpha d1sk
Yep that's what i was saying... alpha / non alpha -> the RARITY of the specific card and the market will dictate it's value in the end
which in this example lets say the Mega Alpha D1sk is $150. YOu sell the Squizz for $1500
thats 10x
roi
then you buy a Mega D1sk non alpha
for $50
(non alpha)
so you dont sell it for as high
not necessarlly just the rarity.....would depend on the situation.....the value is always going to be heavily weighted into the alphas favor is the easiest way to think of it
so lets say you sell it for $1000 thats 500 less than the Alpha version
thats still at 20x
since you sourced it from a $50 D1sk
thats simply all im getting at
A lot of it will depend on the final amount of non alphas that get minted. If theres 50k Alpha Illuvitars at 5x the price we should hit equalibirium at around 250k non alphas. That way the price difference is equal to the scarcity difference.
If we are above 250k non-alphas then alphas should have a higher ROI than non alpha, If we are below then non alphas will have the higher ROI.
^ lots of factors still to play
correct
Basically I just want the Best ROI, we will not know how it turns out this is the first Round of trial so the data isnt all the way there yet, so thats why I hedged both.
but we will learn and find out 🙂
Yes only IF there are 2 of the same thing -> same illuvitars .. but then again intervenes the rarity ... if there are 50 alphas and only 5 non-alpha then alpha will lose in this situation
Because why would i pay more for a thing that is 2-3-5 times more accessible than one that is not?
Has anyone noticed that the holo pull rates have been nuked recently?
yep
its more so because D1sk arnt being opened as much
so its not really nuked
Data for that or anecdotal?
just not as much D1sk being opened
You can see that as of yesterday the holo pull rate was over 10%, the fact that is is now under 10% with much less d1sks being opened shows that the holo pull rate has declined significantly.
What data set are you looking at though?
yes ...there would be exceptions such as what you just said as example if there was an extreme difference like that so yes we agree on this 👍
Standard disks only? Mega + Standard?
Rate could easily be sub-10% for a day because of variance if more standards are being opened, while it could be significantly over 10% if lots of megas are being opened.
I imagine its across the board but I can notice the difference even in my own openings.
The data on the launch party and token trove.
maybe people got more lucky disks previously
not sure how it works though just a guess
Standard disks should be pulling at 5% all the time and megas should be quite a bit higher. So it likely depends on the ratio of standard vs mega disks being opened.
oh i see blickter already said this
I have been opening a lot of megas and have seen a drastic decline in holos being pulled. I thought it was just bad luck but it is being reflected in the overall data and now i'm thinking theres more to it.
Sounds like bad luck to me. It makes sense for more standards to be opened at this stage as people are more foucused on accessories so the data makes sense.
I'd have to look at aggregated data for a time period to say either way, but variance in random systems is normal, and is not indicative of the actual rates being changed.
There's literally no incentive for the team to make changes to the posted rates.
Will just have to see how things pan out but I personally will not be opening any more.
I agree.
thats like quitting a slot machine after losing a bunch and the next person sits down and gets the jackpot soon as you leave 😛
Yeah im gonna open a couple right now. Sounds like the odds are in our favor!
Maybe but like I say, it could be a broader issue, Open some megas and let me know how it goes.
Lol I opened the two standards I had and got trash.
new pickup 🥳 sexy teeantee
ty ty..one of my fav backgrounds so had to get it
and of course teeantee is georgeous so easy decision to pick up my girl
wish i had this one
one of my fav i have seen
👈🏻 Dont you like to see those pretty eyes aswell?
hahaha you got the other one..funny...i will take both 😛
I have been keeping track on that one aswell, becaus i want both
i love this.. is this alpha?.. i got t3 bg stage2, the only one with the pink drone..
I do like my version more 😄 ..got very lucky with this one!
lol dit you bought it from the market? I sold mine in the beginning and didn't know the value at the time xD
Alpha yes, stage 3 with the taiga northen lights
Nope .. there are only 3 of this - pff hope you did get a lot on it
ugh .. that's rough ... 😐
I honestly didn't pay attention at the moment i opened the disk... my luck was that i went to bed and start placing illuvitars on the market after a few days when i properly researched rarity etc
yeah... you are very lucky! 🙂
God! The address that got that one only opened one pack, it got 2 illuvitars
Oof and here I was happy with my version 😄
Disco cats!
haha that ones a keeper too 😻 nothing wrong with that version..super nice...lynx is so photogenic and tier 4 backgrounds are 🔥
that ones got like miami vice vibes to it
lol I had never heard of it and then found that it was before my time 😄
is known for its use of those type color tones/look
had to get sir kukkulus like how he look with this bg
and now im broke 😭 please help send eth S.O.S.
I feel you bro. My ETH on IMX lasted all of 20 minutes once I started buying Illuvitars off the secondary market.
lol same same as soon as i get eth on there i cant help but spend within the day 😆 🫡
looks like somebody is doing my clown nose idea 😆 🇱 🇫 🇬 🫡
Should I get Standards or Megas right now with the remaining tokens I have
should I get 10 standards or 2 Megas?
LOL
i would do 10 standards personally...you get more chance for tier 5 accesories as well....also there is higher chance you get nothing overall in 2 megas where with 10 standards you have better chance of atleast something decent
Do anyone knows about how many alpha mega disks now left over on market?
How are their prices so far
6500 overall left....590 listed
Wow.. that is a lot .. how do errors work for these?
are there ones that have errors?
oh wait i think im wrong
I wonder how long or if these alpha d1sk go up in price over time.
i need to double check but it could be 590 are left out of the total 6500 that sold.....can any one tell me if this accurate?
I think scarcity will start soon to get alpha illuvitar because no more disks will be left and people need to buy from other listed items
for sure they will go up in price...
alot probably as there is less and less
and demand increase
well.. waiting for them to go down in prices so I can buy some
lol dont think thats gonna happen
okay so i just looked it up and it said 20,000 alpha mega disks would be sold.....so im not sure what the numbers on tokentrove mean when it says 590/6500
20000 were sold 6500 left unopened 516 listed on market i think
590*
correct
oh okay so i was right the first time then, ty
there is your answer....6500 left, 590 on market
many of those will be lost or held...so honestly that isnt very much supply left and probably wont see too much flood of good cards beings listed
for alpha
what we see now is a good portion of the best alphas there will ever be
What happened to the free emotis disks for the alpha disk purchasers?
Hey guys what Atlas expression do you prefer? Normal, Playful or Brawler?
we will get them before game launches
Brawler
got me a purrrty lynx 😻
i like playful better but brawler more rare
Ok which game?
the public launch of full sweet of games. Overwold, Arena, Zero. they are aiming for july-august
So after you auto fill how can you just unfill and auto fill again so it automatically choose the highest illuvitars in each slot?
Why can't they just automically fill in the highest score in the right place if you want it to.
Almost the same as me again, but reverse 😮
LOL 🫂 🫶
cant do it yet as far as im aware but it has been mentioned...definitetly something they are fixing to make better i would imagine because it is very time consuming to reorganize thats for sure
good to know
this my most powerful lynx...3650..this one not alpha though
how to read the background tier and stage does anyone know?
flash is the bright neon colors in the blackground with different variations
the right dots are background tier 1-5 background the left ones are the stage tier 1-3
do you guys think this is a ceeper, or should i hange like to another hat? I hant to compete with this thing if we have competetions for this in the future
in my opinion there will be better deals for upping the power levels of tier 0 cards in the next wave since tier 0 will be the same cards and accesories will be the same
Im going for the creepy look, not power
oh i see, well he do look pretty creepy but i would have to look at different variations to see if can up the creepy level
i really wish there was a filter for highest power
aswell
like it would be cool to see what the highest Atlas power overall is base wise
They are working on it. 😉
ahh thats great news
Filter to sort by power is much needed.
agreed! Thanks for the update
Is it good to have only 2 in existance? or really there are many Illuvitars like that
wowww that is a supremely good card.....easily multiple eth for that
Those are the only two with that background yes, so its kinda awesome
can't even find non alpha for that
Really? Huh
No there are some with different expressions
i just looked up how many alpha holo unleashed virtuous floralynx there are and there is only 15 in total and that is one of the better ones....that is a seriously expensive card right there
Hmm.. yeah I just opened all of them megas Alpha at the beginning didn't really look deeply into what I have
I think expression does matter a bit.
I actually have 10 more alpha mega I have not opened
not sure if I want to open them
well good surprise there...very good hit
yeah..
I don't really understand the values too much, I know Alpha is worth more
just so many variation every illuvitar is unique
so that is why I am asking
its probably valued at 1 eth right now what u got but that is sure to rise since there is so little of them
easily will turn into a 10+ eth card in the future by my guess
yeah, well I am not looking to flip for now. I mean i only have one LOL
Proud to be a owner of something unique I guess
Thanks for your hopium guess
no one knows. I know one thing if Crypto does becomes mainstream it will take off
and also illuvium needs to do well also
honestly, I know ill beat myself up for not buying all the Set1 holos regarless of Alpha or not rn
anything under $50 rn that im passing up on buying ima be kicking myself a a few years or next Bull market run
Absolutely. I agree.
i already spent so much that I cant justify buying more atm.
The conundrum is asking yourself which would perform better, the Illuvium token or the holo alphas. They both look cheap right now.
I'm in the same boat. I spent what I budgeted and that's it now.
Maybe I can dip again if I see prices decline.
Or when you see your spot on the leaderboard xD
i need to sell some nft's to get more eth...all my eth gone
thats way above my budget for these things
dont sell ur illuvitars
sell other nfts xD
only ones i dont want...like duplicates and such...definitely not selling the ones in my album 👍
You don't know pain until you LOAD D1SK during testing and reveal a Rhamphyre
thats what i do 👍
luck was on your side at the wrong time...definite bummer
im assuming you mean testing before the real mintings
pain pain
From my point of view with virtually billions of combinations it's not difficult to find very rare even 'usual' ones(don't want to undervalue the above Floralynx). As a standard i think the value should be determined by some common attributes that ALL illuvitars share:
- Illuvitar Tier 1-5 (stage if exists 1-3)
- Holo version / non holo
- illuvitar Bg Tier 1-5
- Illuvitar Bg Stage 1-3
- Alpha/non alpha
- Expression Tier 1-3
Maybe each point with a different weight when establishing the value of one. If we go down the road that i have for example 1 in 65 Sleepy Earth Grokko with Tier 2 yellow bg i think we will find a lot of rare illuvitars out there 🙂
The higher one scores at every 'checkpoint' the higher the value
Oh yes. thanks for your analysis. So you are saying we should go in the order from 1 - 6 in terms of importance
1 is most important to you
That's a sucker punch right there. Damn.
I wish they have like a counter for each filter you do
Please Illuvium developer gods please put some counter for each filter you do?
How come I can't find the Intense Expression in the filter?
Not at all.. the order could be from 6 to 1 or whatever.. i didn't say i am the one scoring these 😂
whats the odds to get shiny halo
But i just said what common sense means to me when it comes to rarity.. i have X illuvitar let s say Tier 3... okay how many are there in existence... next out of those in existence how many are holo... next how many have Tier 3 expression ... and so on. It's just a decent way to establish the rarity and value
At the end of the day it s not me or you or anyone here that will find the value of a specific illuvitar but the market
just got a decent Archie
market value looks around .5
from a Standard disk too 🙂
not that someone would purchase it yet for that
Rumor has it Leaderboard is coming on Friday. Don't ask who the source is😄
what will be showed on leaderboard?
just album leaders?
or would it be highest power cards too
nice hit...rare background and expression
ty
very good hit from a standard disk
yay 
good question hopefully both
nice
The specific person will find value. It is about fate someone shall find value in my illuvitar.
very nice
tyty
How come I can't find expression for intense
not sure hmm
It is so hard to get Holo for Tier 0
maybe because it is specific to Tier 0 expression
Some filters don’t work
Rhamphyre is automatic jackpot
I will never get one 😦
how come my album doesn't show the accessories I have collected?
you can't collect accessories?
You gotta bond them if you want credit for em
What is this?
oh you have to bond to collect
I thought just by having them is enough
OMG but I hate bonding
LOL
Yuppppp
I am not into bondage
Just opened 6 standard d1sks and was getting so aggravated from the millionth Atlas, Archie, Archie, Kukka, Kukka lol. Finally on the last one I pulled this demonic squizz w/ beautiful background
We're dropping news regarding the Stretch Goals shortly 🫡
I opened so many nasty D1sks standard.. I ran out of SILV2
so does this mean I should get a total of 250 D1sks?
to get he metal print LOL
First Wave Battle board skin hmm.. what is that
I'm not seeing any Demonic Squizz for sale with this background (not that it's super rare but I just find it so aesthetically pleasing)
oh okay. yeah I like Squizz
I've been opening and opening waiting to find my forever pfp and that one might be pretty close.
Which do yall prefer? Demonic Squizz or the Holo Zephyrlynx w/ T5 S3 background?
DAMMMN SUPER GOOD PULL...THATS NOT HOLO IS IT?
That zephyrlynx is awesome. Squizz is cool and all but... Lynx holy shit.
Its not a holo but it's the rare expression (I don't think it's super rare but I love the color combos)
Squizz always looks good with quantum collars so id say bond the squizz if youre gonna bond one of em but keep that lynx clean. Its a super rare pull.
it is quite rare there is only 70 demonic squizz all together of every version and you got one with a cool background so that is vey good pull
very very good pull from a standard disk
i opened tons of standard disks and best i got was a smirking goliant
I recently bought an Alpha demonic squizz on secondary but I didn't really like the background so it was more for the resale value. But I'll enjoy this non-alpha one more for the art
All my fave illuvitars get added to my apple watch backgrounds
Damn that's a really good pull from a standard!
ya decent...not as good as yours but pretty good and defintie very good standard disk pull so i was happy to see it
nice that is excellent idea 👍
I’m buying some standards right now
Good luck! 🤞
😮 what is stretch goals? seems exciting, should we be excited?
should i keep or sell Laser Goliant?
want to open more packs...
give it to me 😄 is it alpha or non alpha
nah I think my offer of about $1 is fair compared to that 
how accurate is the illuvialmaster pricing? sorry im new
can you show what card it is ? i can give you decent estimate...not sure about illuvialmaster never used it...can you post a pic of your card or just explain it
such as the background, holo or non holo, alpha or non alpha
damn i cant beat that 😆
yeah didnt think so im unstoppable
so thats the lowest variatons of that card besides the laser is rarest expression and is a very rare card just based on that....the lowest price is .3 eth right now so that would be your approximate value right now
thx:)
since its a non alpha i think its fine if you sold it tbh because non alpha packs are still on sale for 2 months so I think if you sold now at around floor price i think it would be okay decision but is up to you
and i dont imagine they will become alot cheaper though because they so rare and hard to get in packs so it wouldnt be bad decision to hold onto it either
wouldnt*
thanks for good info, im going to try and sell. its just too fun too open packs 😛
@stoic cedar any good community pages for info and tips?
okay good luck..market is a tad slow at the moment but hopefully it can sell soon for u and you can get them packs 👍 if it dont sell right could try lowing it a bit since there is a similar version with slightly better background just above your price
im not sure what the best thing for that would be tbh but im pretty sure there is some articles/blogs with helpful stuff.....i pretty much learned everything i know from asking questions here and then studying the market trends of each card pretty much and studying the variations...i understand it all pretty good now and only been about a week so that definitely works if you dedicate alot of time constantly to it
i been watching the market like 24/7 for last week 
have you gotten something good from the d1sk?
not too many super good stuff but i probably pretty much got about the value of what i bought with all the disks all together...i got a smirking goliant the other day and that is about best i got which
which is a good pull for a standard pack bought i had many bad pulls as well from many other packs but evened out about in the end...i think i probably got slightly better value than what i paid for overall actually
there was enough mid-tier hits
think i had som pack luck, is standard or mega best? i had best luck with mega
a mix of both is probably best but i think i like standard best because more cards for possible slots in the album and more accesories which can hit some expensive accesories too
your luck must be crazy with that squizz aswell
isnt astrobee the one that got squizz? or they both did?
just looked up his address and he has a squizz aswell
ohh i see...ya damn they very lucky then lol
his one isnt got the expression like astrobees but still
is the metal plate for illuvitar worth getting LOL
Depends how much it will cost and how much you love your illuvitar 🙂
I wonder if that metal is a collectors item in the future LOL
when the lnyx album im growing to love my holo collection of um
i got some more eth and bought some more fancy things hehehehe
that green one is 🔥 🔥 🔥
Nonalpha, how much is it worth in your opinion?
non alpha holo phyrii with that background i would value at about .5 eth right now
what are these fancy things
should I just get all Standard D1sk
I need to get up to 200 d1sk
LOL
Do I have to buy that metal thing if I reach that goal? or is it free?
the unimpressed bros
I am impressed
they should have made 500 disk challenge ....."Buy without ya wife knowing " .....lol
Wifey
Easy for you, you just buy them when she is singing karaoke
she's party planning right now
hey. If I have some Rhamphyer I can make my money back if I even sell it haha
How long does it take for the deposited SILV2 to appear in my Illuvium account
nevermind got it
just smashed this collection 
9how did this happen
them bugs 
gz man
Bug fixes inc :loading:
would be nice to have a remove all button don't you guys think?
or reset collection
and being able to sort by power as well...
because if I get a stronger illuvitar there is no indication in the collection page to update
that is so awesome an amazing work of art right there...jumps right out
What a pull
posted this dude at beyond marketplace. (Alpha)
indeed...first bunch of packs were garbage and then boom the blushing geysser appeared...non holo and non alpha but still very good card and rare....only 3 holo blushing geyysers exist though so i so wish it was a holo haha cant complain though
You also posted it here
got this for .13 eth...cant believe it was still on the market...rare expression, tier 5 background, alpha, 2025 power level 🔥 🔥

Cheap
so 20% is the best bondage upgrade for each accessories
I couldn't find one in any of my 100 + d1sks
can you even filter organize by power for illuvitars or accessories?
I think the only way to do that right now is on illuvialmaster...
Ooouuy what fixes?
Toss in a mobile viewer yet 😉 ?
on IMX you go to "my assets" and then scroll down on the sidebar on the left and you click on illuvitars or illuvitar accesories...whatever you wanna look up....then it will give you the filters for your assets
okay great. I think Illuvium needs a dedicated App
so we can look at our illuvitars and other items we own on illuvium on the go and show people on the go
and again i need to refer to illuvialmaster its just such a good tool to view your whole collection.... just copy your wallet adress onto your phone and than go to illuvialmaster - collection and paste in your adress... there you go now you can always few everything you own even on your phone while on the road 😉
gonna buy all the unleashed floralynx and send them to a burn wallet 😂 🥳
or re-list them higher and make profit and buy a holo version 🍻
Just filled in my collection a bit, got a floor Rypter, Dash, Singe, Phyri, Squizz, Slashin, Relentless Zephyrlynx, & Virtuous Terralynx. Pretty surprised how cheap some of them were even the T4s and Squizz... but then you get to T4 Stage 3 and WOW. Then T5 Stage 2 and WOW. Prices go up quick.
So now my Set 1 Wave 1 collection is only missing Rhamphyre, Goliant, Adoredo, and Geyyser.
there is cheap geyyser on market with 3400 power level if you intereseted in some power 💪
not cheap enough mate
looks like my balance 😄
I cropped out the sILV2 😉
oh that 0.2 silv2 at my balance 😄
😆 cheap by geysser standards......but you know you had a good day when the eth goes close to zero 👍
i try to do that everyday
we really gotta improve the album UX. it's so slow and painful going through each collection
so bad it makes me NOT want to set my illuvitars
true, is a hassle, but im sure they workin on it.....i think atleast now for some of the category it automatically take a character out the slot when you have a higher powered version in your wallet....atleast pretty sure thats been happening recently
Yeah we can't really assume exactly what's being worked on though. Gotta submit our thoughts and recommendations. I still gotta submit some more pointed UX feedback to the Zendesk. Definitely don't keep your thoughts to yourself, let the team know 🙂
god daimned i thought once i have wave 1 complete i could chill till the next wave but now that i see my collection i always find myself buying a bit more or better illuvitars.... i hope i can stop now that all my eth on imx is gone 🤨

time for some sleep, yall have fun out there, and remember, the very next pack might be a holo dragon 🐉 or a squid 🦑
i wonder if anyone is going for the obereum suit skin- 5k disks😮
wow
someone did yes^^
Will the suit be possible to trade or is it going to be bonded to your account?
5000
dang whats the 500 one?
"first wave" battle board skin
Battle board skin.
Does anyone know if the suit is tradeable or not? And is it going to be available in any other future waves?
Tradeable for sure, cant imagine that it would not be an nft
im 13 d1sk away
i bought alot of d1sk of secodnary
otherwise id be there
already
I'm not sure, do the D1sks from secondary market count?
nope
Oh, it is really cool, just tried it!
It also makes me feel less bad about the money I spent looking at its very very generous collection valuation 😀
How do I search for a rhampire ? Not sure if that's how you spell it lol
Rhamphyre
Yes haha how do I search for it on beyond ?
you can filter every line if you want 🙂
haha nice addition there
Thanks so much
is there any reasonable place to manage my assets other than Illuvidex?
so hard to track the number of illuvitars (
illuvialmaster has this crazy feature to show you a lot of stuff connected to your collection , how much its worth, what came from witch disk etc
no need to sign in or something, just enter whatever wallet you want and it will show you stats
thanks a lot, I'll go see my wealth🤑
It would be cool if the pictures used in the album had labels. It's so hard to understand what can be put up for sale and what can't.
its not fully accurate just a fair idea. Remember if you go to sell something do your own market research and not just go off that
It's such a great tool but it's massively undervaluing my holo w/ T5 S3 background 😭
I was wondering what people consider more valuable: holo illuvitars or illuvitars with t5 background? A t5 background would be harder to get but holos go for higher prices on the market if I'm not mistaken. Trying to wrap my head around that one...
is that true though? just looked up and a holo atlas is $5 and a non holo atlas with t5 background is $75
i guess you're right, though I just saw some higher tier illuvitars have a lot smaller relative difference in value between T5 back ground and holo. Hence my question 😉
maybe there is some other differences like alpha/non alpha etc. not sure
Yep true.. they re working on this... T5 S3s are the rarest illuvitars so far .. rarer than Rhamphyre
not enough sales data for the T5 S3 backgrounds so things would be innacurate for those for sure
they talkin backgrounds
Nick posted on twitter that illuvium beyond leaderboard and ladder rank rewards are imminent 😉
gimme them sweeet tasty rewards babyyyyy
look at this awesome dude...they sold to me for .027 eth..good deal
one of my fav now..love how he looks..and big power for tier 0
Damn whoever posted this Alpha Smirking Goliant at 0.18... felt like this was a steal
oh lawddd what a deal
did u buy it?
actually thats a fair price tbh maybe a bit underprice but reasonable...was thinking of price range of different card
still a good buy though
i thought it was holo at first
yup, i feel like people are sleeping on alphas (long term) + i needed a smirking goliant so it worked out
Cheapest Rhamphyre just went... also looks like a pretty good deal
Non alpha but still...
Yeah especially since it has 2681 power
that's a steal for any rhamphyre let alone a goofy one with that bg
damn can't believe i missed that
Yeah some people still unaware of what they have. Great job on the buyer getting in there first on that one! 👍
omg that is a massive massive steal wowwwwwwwwww luckiest person who bought that......with that background and the goofy and it looks amazing fuuuu why cant i get that.... thats probably a 10+ eth card and they sold for .37 🤦♂️
that has to be the bigget robbery in the market so far
yeah well either the seller didnt know what its worth or we dont know how hard this market will dump xD
pretty sure the first unless the biggest crash of all time was coming 😆
besides that the overall markets is slowly slowly turning bullish after long major crashes so doubt there is much worse to come
