#๐ฎใilluvium-arena
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with this set up, you have a full hp scoriox alive, you can also pu kuka on the enemy ryplance and get ryplance and kuka surviving
Wait whatโฆhow do I get ranger shield? I thought that was some cosmetic ๐
shift + right click 
Wow major alpha
Dead on 29 ugh
"if they're starving don't give them fish, but learn them how to get their own" ๐
fisherman courses are monday to saturday, sunday I am generous with fish 
๐ fair enough
btw @queen totem the idea on Shabim's Screenshot is very valid: Flare acts as a sacrifice to protect his own ryplance from getting poisoned by the opposing one, Ryplance is usually a very good option against comps relying on heal. Scoriox is here to make a ton of damage and kill stuff quicker
Ranger is there to save time against Vermiliare while Kukka's Tornado will redirect Scoriox's attacks to it making sure you kill Vermiliare before if becomes a real problem
Very interesting screenshot to learn some basics, goodstuff here @bronze canopy
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you can also ask why flare and not scarabok since you have enough points for him? because flare gives you the bulwark passive, which all of your tanks are benefiting directly 
I will take the rest of my Sunday off. 
My 8 year old son onbaorded his Cousin on to pb1 the other dayโฆhaha such little Degens they are! Ahh they make me so proud lol ๐ซ ๐คญ
And so far only good words from the mums ! โ
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That is awesome! If this game can convert the kids also, we will have massive growth in the future.
How are they doing from a strategic standpoint?
@mighty cave what is the problem
I'm definitely pro degen kids
I was playing online poker illegally when I was 14
Get them started young!
Hi
I canโt log in the game for two days. Itโs always loading
What can be a problem?
hmmm i'm not sure how this legally works with the money part involved (obviously not talking about PB but full game)... i'd be careful personnally XD
that's weird, can you show us a screenshot maybe ?
Kids are paying for some games already. If parents allow it I don't see why Illuvium should be different. But yeah, legaly idk, I'm pretty sure noone does and it will be different depending on jurisdictions.
yeah but not "earning", i know the earning part and the play for money with minors is a huge legal concern in some countries
They are not earning. The just own the stuff the receive.
i mean... "Fight for ETH"
is the game also crashing a lot for you guys? yesterday it crashed only like 2x, but today it is very often
Yeah, the betting part is definitely outside of what I mean. I mean more the go and catch Illuvial side. But it will be like with most stuff no resolved at launch. The discussions will go on as the game is out and kids play already.
i need help!!!!!\
VERMIL. is a pain in the ass!!! What are good counters???
The combo of him and ADO healer keep messing me up... ANy guidance is appreciated!
The ranger with Airshield is usually good to buy you time against Vermiliare as long as you have at least one other unit focusing it. If you manage to have Ranger + another unit focusing vermiliare while Vermiliare is focusing your Ranger, you will interrupt his omega buying you usually enough time to be able to kill it.
how far did you go?
thanks!! Been trying this route! Still learning the ropes, so not very far along (which is the sad part lol)
Situationally i know you can also use Archeleon but that's very situational, if the timing goes right you win, if don't you lose. but the idea is to make sure Archeleon gets Hyper thanks to Vermiliare (meaning it needs to have no other rogues around) allowing Archeleon to heal himself faster and negate the bonus damage from the critical hits. This way he's able to tank Vermiliare almost forever
Thanks @worn thicket very helpful and i clearly need to watch better players explain/coach how they do it during streams/videos. I would classify my skills as NOOB to BEGINNER based on not passing Wave 7,8,9,10 LOOOOOL!
You can also use acheleon. The turtle can hold for a long time as well, depending on if the tail whip crits or not.
Instinct is to go for the stage 3s right away! Not the best way and restrategizing...
yeah i'd recommend you to go take a look on YT/Twitch then, there's some very good content around. Also following the right ppl on Twitter is good too ๐ Keep it up! nobody started as a pro!
after some thought about what we discussed with Sascha earlier, i think the difference might be if the Archeleon gets Hyper quick enough or not, making not only his heal come faster but also negating any additional damage from the crits (hardened). What do you think ?
They already have their favourites and if they see it in the deck they will wanna use it every time haha. But actually pretty good with some basic tactics as well as understanding synergies and alike.
But again, they are just stoked to be able to play it and play it on the โbig computerโ haha
That is a very good hypothesis. Could vary results from small positional changes as well.
I'm also wondering if it is also one auto attack off. Because the Acheleon has a shorter attack range maybe the loss of the initial attack could cause omega to cast too late.
Awe that is awesome! Glad to see it appeals to them.
"The big computer". I remember being a kid getting to play on the big tv with the newer generation console in my house.
Otherwise I would be stuck playing Nintendo while my parents played PlayStation lol
Loving the vibe in here 
Itโs all peace and love today isnโt it ๐
How it should be here ๐
First game and died on Wave 6. Really interesting to play though
Anyone else on Windows 11 get a 0xc000007b error when launching private beta?
Not trying to be that guy but do we have any update on the recent game crashes?
as far as i know there's no update planned for the game until PB2 release which should be soon tho ๐
Alright I guess I would rather they not even try to fix it tbh
put all the dev time into finishing the game right?
pretty much feels like it yeah
The faster we reach PVP the happier I am so be it
Turn your quality down
anyone else having issues getting past the level with vermilliaire, fern, and adoredo? or whatever their names are? I can't target just one at a time and they just have infinite health throughout the fight
What wave is that?
I'm on wave 3 gimme a sec ill look at it
Sorry if this was previously answered, but it looks like in game, the username does not match up with my discordID. Is there a way to update it?
Not yet
I'm live in voice if you wanna look
thanks, any concern with it being another random person's discord?
Your problem may have been you had Illuvials that were too expensive instead of having multiple illuvials on the board?
Generally the wave just needs you to keep vermi preoccupied for a second while you take out fern then the deer
I think I'll just watch you, I haven't put many hours into it yet and don't know much
I'm not really that good either but if you have any questions feel free to ask I'll answer the best I can
seems like ramphyre is a must in later rounds for his omega right?
Depends on the situation
The great thing about the game is there's no one size fits all approach you have to take it 1 wave at a time
Noted ๐
Sorry about the breaks in between rounds I work from home and I'm taking calls
I stream on twitch at 4:30 EST m-f if that works better for you
But basically imo it's better to have more illuvials on the board in early rounds than having fewer more expensive ones
Also take note which affinities build hyper off of other affinities that will give major buffs
I'll need to write that down somewhere easily accessible because I keep remembering pokemon type advantages which are not these advantages. I also see you aren't focused on synergies except for bulwark and granite really
oh thank you, I didn't know that part of the infoluvial website existed
I didn't either but it's also pinned in here
Kukka is the most OP 30 cost in the game by far as well
I always use it when I can because if you can keep him alive his omega goes off on repeat lol
14 is where I died on my furthest run
Welp I g2g hope that helped buddy ๐
it did, thank you!
np
20 is a biatch today
Haha totally ! But please tell me if there is yet a better console than the N64!โฆ? ๐ ๐คฉ๐ฅณ
I cannot be able to play is there a reason when my email say's I can and now won't verify
Iโll start a thread for us to solve this m8
Thank you it is not verifying, nor accepting a new password then it say
My first try was Wave 20.
But I never got there again!
I guess I was just lucky.
whats the strat
Can't get pass 9 ๐
I just need like all creatures and a good look at them so I can learn what they all do
i like the snake and the fire dragon
also like the deer that heals
I already cant wait to play, now you make me very intrigued
Can't believe my 24 lost. It's not a hard wave just got 1 unfortunate interaction
who? oh the always cancelling his omega snail? yeah he is cool i guess 
I can't even get pass 9 today ๐
i keep getting to 11 idk how everyones getting to 14, 16, 20
I have noticed his omega gets canceled when hes focused on ramphite when he goes untargetable
when anybody in proximity died, goes untargetable or anythng else... he is so unreliable 
yeah his omega should still go for those that aren't untargetable
thats interesting i'll pay more attention to the proximity deaths
maybe if his focused target goes out of focus (death, untargetable, etc) his omega gets cancelled in the process?
even if he is not focusing a particular illuvial and it died near him
he cancels it
i havent noticed yet because ive been trying to position him away from everyone when the round starts xD
omg finally i beat 11
morning everyone! How is the deck today?
Some good Illuvials in the deck but opposing team has some strong waves also
uuh okay. Excited to try it out later! I like me some challenge
The setup crushed me yesterday lol, cleared 12 waves
The illuvial with a long tail, whats his name? He hits damn hard
vermi monkas
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one position mistake got me at wave 21 .
my best is 11 waves so far
GG!
what is the decoding for pb1
Private Beta 1
any tips for 14
Zeptyle is streaming at the moment on twitch, you could watch him beat it and ask for the thought process too
I would also like tips for wave 14
- git gud. 2. gimme screenshot of 14
Once I get there again I will lol
ok, i found it in my vod. lemme see. 14 is definitely tricky. I found that the best way to go about it is to go for a middle push unto the Rypterus, simultaneously pulling kuka away from protecting phyriox form your rogue/rogues. As distractions for umbre and vermi s2, people have different opinions. I find that adorius (near the middle to assist the middle with his heavy autoattack) works perfectly fine for umbre, and the ranger can eat 2-3 or even 4 omegas from vermi s2 if healed with adorius in a timely fashion. I hpoe that helpes somewhat without saying too much of what to do and what to place 
Bout to give it a go
how'd it go ๐
Not good lol
Huh?
I can't see your upload from today if you streamed it.
yeah I did not upload it
My mouse broke 2 hours into the stream, after which i just bitched and moaned about it so 
Did u beat it? If not try Right Adorius and Vermillare, but push on left.
I play while taking calls for work so I am going at a very slow pace lmfao
Dame work slowing you down. ๐
Honestly I should quit and just play beta full time
I'm probably gonna go pro anyways, right??
Sure, we all will. Let's just quite. What could go wrong. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I mean if we're all buying during the bear market we're gonna be rich by the next btc halving regardless
That's my whole retirement plan. ๐ฌ ๐ค
Aight, got a new mouse. ARENA. I AM COMING FOR YOU
Lol broke your mouse?
yeah.. 2 hours into the grind today 
Please tell me you got a spare too
I like to live on the edge
Hahaha Shabim grinding HARD
Got to wave 14 5 times today I'm literally fuming
oh woops i just beat it
i hate you
I'd appreciate it lmao
But it's not sunday
what can i say, i like jim
UwU
Managed to get to Wave 17 yesterday, rocking with a Scoriox setup. Will cover my impressions after the first 10 hours of gameplay (crammed in 2 days only) as well as what tactics worked for me, in my upcoming video on my YT channel ๐
Can someone show me who fern is
heal bird
Ty shabim I got to wave 17 at least this time
I'm on the leaderboards so I'm gonna take a break til I'm off work ๐
Are there any guides out there already on good synergies ? ๐ค
granite = gud
^
Energy production is what fuels the omega power right?
the game crashes a lot recently, went up to wave 14 and it crashed two times in a row
Is it everyday the same deck we can play or does these decks randomly change?
every day 00:00 UTC the deck changes, but it's the same for everyone and the same waves
99% of them are groom issues I guess
i used groom only the 1st day i played if thats what you mean
still crash like im playing a racing game
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Yah it's not Groom issues
from Devblog
so be patient guys, it just means they're working on making it better!
Which one shoots the tornado
Whats this MF name
Its my favourite
That appears to be a fernite.
Nothing better to start the day then a crash on 19
any tips for 13?
Got to wave 14 on first try today. It was the first time I went with a rogue heavy team
Will try again later, any tips for todays deck to get through the mid teens waves?
GG @vestal vault !
Best deck ever
Wind chicken
Is op
How far did you get
Died on 22 ๐ฆ
It's definitely beatable
I'll do 1-2 more runs later and hope I dont crash
I think I died on 14 ๐ฆ
Did you try lowering your settings? I still didn't have a single crash
Yup
A game that runs better on mac ๐คฏ
Let's hope PB2 is gonna fix that issue for you guys
Yah I was trying to beat Martini but he is getting to 100 pretty soon
It's completely lowered my desire to play more runs
I'm gonna need to find myself some free time to watch some of you top streamers. I'm feel like I'm pretty average atm. Would like to be top 10 ๐ผ
Yes, I understand
PB2 is going to be a whole new game if everything that has been talked about is included
Everyone is going to suck at it for a while haha
let me at 'em
I'm gonna have to make flashcards to learn all the names
"purple lynx" "green lynx"
its ok i still call ryplance scoriox
i call all 3 snails.... snail
yea i stopped worrying about names i just say vermi 1 vermi 2 vermi 3
big moma
You mean air chicken
haha
Have anyone died on wave 1 just to see their rank and try to figure out the the dailey player count?if so what rank did tou get
at the end of the day that should give the most accurate picture
I believe @dark scaffold did that a while ago
last time i checked we had 7k players in beta and it was at the end of lats batch (players declining in time ) so have this in mind that now we have new batch
I also tend to die on wave 3 to weed out some possible weirdness
Last batch
7.000 players
my score: 448
percentage: 6.4%
**This batch **
13.000 players
my score: X (guesstimate: 832)
percentage: 6.4%
where do these numbers come from?
Wondering the same
#๐ฃใannouncements message here it says we're 15k by now
We are at about 15k
14.999?
close
i mean, this is what i'm not sure of xD where this additional 2k came from?? we were on 7k, than you gave additional 5k access. Than magically someone posted 15k ๐
7k + 2500 + 5k
slacker
the magic of a missed batch xD
But thats not the numbers I'm wondering
yeah im also more curious about the other numbers too @dark scaffold
Is this you saying that 832 ppl are playing out of 15k?
jeeez xD i was only answering Lars question since i was pinged ๐ i just guestimated it based on last batches 6.4% player base
but where comes this 6.4% from the 7k as well ?
did the team reveal any of these numbers?
omg
Thats gonna be a negative ghost rider
Thats why I'm wondering lol
have you ppl even read Lars question and my full answer?:P
No, we just type random words
Indeed, macaroni
Please don't talk about food
Hamburger
Fasting aint we
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You can just die on wave 3 and on the leaderboard of Illuvium it will show your rank.
Since wave 3 is basically the lowest anyone should be able to get if they TRY, then you know the active playerbase.
I'm sure Rich sometimes struggles to get to wave 3
You forgot a "0" after the 3
Well me too, to check leadeeboard ๐
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Wind chicken ๐ฅ
Blazenite needs to be buffed hard xD too much cost for too little value/stats
OHHHH Fire BRO! Way to go man!
That whole bird line is weak. Then again, if the weak lines were strong, they wouldn't be as easy to pick off in the game.
yea, bird is weak, but it can serve as a good tank both as a frontline and a backline for certain illuvials
all the meanwhile healing itslf and the team, providing buffs and debuffs
It seems weak now, in the context of the limited number of illuvials available. But when the full first set is in the game, they will all be good or potentially good at different times and it just becomes a strategic thing knowing how and when to use them
I don't know what's the best illuvial for beating titanor do you have the answer ?
i can't go after wave 11
situational illuvial, not bad. do agree that it's a bit expensive for what it does tho and i tend to like Fernite more indeed
The scorpion does great damage on Titanor
Kukka's spell adding Vulnerability also helps taking out tanks

or basically any unit that does %HP like Sear, Scorpions, Vermi line etc
Thanks and where i go to see what's the weakness of all competence
i mean what can beat magma for example
you can either learn the chart : water > Earth > Fire > Nature > Air > Water again (you can find this kind of graphics pretty much everywhere (youtube videos, twitter, Infoluvial etc)
Or use the Illuvialmaster/affinities tool
THIS BEING SAID
we are not in Pokรฉmon and it's not Weaknesses or Strengths. Indeed you don't hit a Fire illuvial stronger with a water than with a Nature. All it does is make your Hyper charge faster, And once your Hyper is full you get some bonuses depending on your class
That's why i can't go after wave 11 thanks a lot
it will take a bit before you get used to all the illuvials and mechanics of the game so i'd suggest you follow some content creators, read as much as you can on Infoluvial/IlluvialMaster (the 2 big community websites so far even tho a Wiki is being created too). Definitely worth the grind ๐
does anyone know who runs illuvialmaster, im trying to get in touch with him about using a screenshot in my upcoming video
the site is so good!
No idea tbh
do you mind sending me their discord?
You got the link from hype discord in #899655780033261639 . The illuvialmaster dev are there.
27 is hard ๐ฆ

Didnt crash though so thats a plus
Still stuck on 14, I think I'll give up for today
need screenshot for 14?
Ok, I guess I'll do 1 more so I can die on 15 then 
I think people are really overthinking 14
ok, next time Im gonna come around to 14 ill make it
They see everyone dying on it and try and do something special
I'm just placing Illuvials and they die, not much overthinking on it
๐ it Looks so awesome, having 3 snails bombarding the enemy team
Did not try that tactic yet ๐
Had to try that ๐ and at least it Looks great
Ok, I'm at 14 again @smoky python ๐
Where is my screenshot shabim ๐
im coming , 9 atm
Can't wait that long, I'll have to get rekt on my own
r i p
daaaaaamn it was close but I failed
Don't use it
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It gave 1 fire 1 nature 1 empath 1 fighter
And that's it
It looked badass, that's something
Yup
A flock of Blazenites has appeared
Got wrecked AT 14 aswell ๐
i had an interaction where on wave 20, nobody died. 9 character alive on my side 
Shouldn't swap ranger and titanor better in this case ? ๐
There are a whole lot of things wrong with that lol
But it works ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Yup
Let's do the 5 minutes analysis from SJUD. we are waiting it
I could prolly rant for 20 minutes about that positioning lol
No point to copy tactics I guess, died on 15 
oh no
It won't help you to come in the top10 thinking like this ๐
I'm gonna mute this channel, you making me feel bad ๐
Nah we would like to help you. don't hesitate to ask some tips about what's wrong in your wave, instead of picking screens ๐
PB1 is all about fundamentals because the Illuvial pool is so limited right now and you can pretty much play the same team every day
PB2 gonna diversify things a lot more if they add a ton more
Imagine new player comes in the release game and see only the utility of augments. When the fundamentals are still there and very important.
It's now the time to master it
Didn't want to make @brazen quarry sad ๐ฆ
Haha I know, just sucks to realise you are not smart enough 
Hi, saw you in polemos, How to earn pb1? ๐
I'm everywhere 
You can apply for beta with the link provided in #๐ใhelpful-links
Might also help you to have a look at #981427337734266920 Being active in the community en join in conversations is also a good idea
Has nothing to do with intelligence
I've got thousands of hours of autochess playtime
Whole reason I started playing in the first place cause my reaction times are slow as can be haha
No more shooters for me ๐ฆ
I wanna give it a try but I don't think I should try playing a shooter with a magic mouse
He looks like he would be great at a shooter
He tends to make a mess of things
What should I do, register my email then its all good?
no, its not better ;]
titanor is positioned like this to avoid getting % damage from ryplance and sear, he ends up hyper fast and that hp regen is a valuable asset. Dualeph is placed like this because he will be raying everybody down, hitting at least 4 people, killing the TNT. ranger goes down, which is why she is there, while phyriox dies fast to rake, kuka catching ryplance as he is walking up. It work really well, what is there to rant about? 
surprise me
Feel free to hire me and I can teach you why ๐
yeah im not gonna start this discussion 
Ill take any other comment @worn thicket @lean ivy @slow iron
or do you guys need to be paid as well? 
jk btw
mmmh interessant.
I was putting more value in Titanor hyper with sear + phyriox + ryplance (=+6), as the axodon will die fast. But with the trashbird + the double granite it does +6 too.
But i will anyway prefer to take the left damage on titanor instead of ranger ;).
next time I come around 14, i will test it and give you the results. maybe you are right, there is aalways a 99% chance im a full of shit
with my setup, 4 survive, titanor full hp, dualpeh/seagorus full hp minus titanor omega, and rake like 50%
titanor almost full hp*
Titanor, as long as he gets solo aggro from the bird and is not in range of Ryplance also has +6 :)
I tried the exact same set up, just switched titanor and ranger, it lost with enemy titanor surviving 50% hp and the blazenite ~ 20%.
Thanks for the time. to tried this haha. I think that titanor take to much DPS from ryplance and sear during the time he become hyper and can't survive to it.
I've learned something so.
yeah same, no probs. That what I am here to do 
Thats not the only thing wrong with the positioning
You also cant just swap the two units without fixing it
perhabs, but about this point i would play differently and bad. just about theses 2 tanks,
Ah
sure.. but that wasnt the conversation. Im not saying it perfect. It works exactly how i engineered it to work
Yah tons of different paths to take
But I would take the ryplance on the ranger perhaps, To give more hyper and less dps to the titanor. that could fix too.
Yes, that is one change you'd have to make with the simple swap
Yeah, one of the reasons I was so confident that switching tanks wouldnt work, is because that was my first thing i did. Pull ryplance to ranger , tank with titanor left side, it did not work
I love to see the different ways how people pass a wave. If it works, it works
Lots of things work now though. It's very simple survival
The goal is to master the theory
That way you dont have to spend 12 hours a day playing
Yeah the problem to is not getting stuck with illuvials that you canโt beat the next wave with
But you can click on "wave" and see the unit composition of your next wave as well :)
That took me so long to figure out lol
some solution can work 1/5 times, and other that are really good optimised work 100%. and that difference will be huge later.
gona be hoenst, i learned that next wave thing like 4 days ago
There will be a full tutorial on actual release im guessing
I don't even look at that. 1 fight at the time 
Same. But if it is something you struggle with often it is something you can start doing
So we are all happy it's there but nobody uses it, gg
Yeah this is true and I use it often itโs just still something I struggle with planning ahead
I think for now using strong units is the way to go.
We didn't have Atlas so long, need that OP thing back in my deck
Fair I may pay too much attention to affinity charts
We havent had Axodon either :/
Perry just trolling us by not putting in Atlas
I played like wave 11, with Titanor and seaforus against the axodon, and all the healers... the enemy axodon had 240 physical resist by the end of the fight while Titanor had 120.
Absolutely balanced unit.
Is there anywhere we can see how many daily active users there is?
damnn so 15000 people have access but could be 10 daily active users
how to deal with adorius ๐ญ
Yes, all the people in this chat are just pretending they are playing
why are they doing that? but ofc you said all so there most be a LOT of peope playing ๐ could be anywhere from 2 - 100 amazing
kill him before he cures everyone lol
i tried rhamphite and the other round rake but they are so weak solo and cant get him down
do i really need to get two assasin for that healer or is there a better way
Isnโt trying to burst down the healer usually a huge no no?
99% of the time I try to do that it does not end well
Do u guys usually use your ranger as a tank?
Yes rn the shield is the most OP weapon on him
Iโve heard some people use the staff tho idk what the theory behind it is tho
Air staff has heal and shield I think
hmm intuitive i thougt healer should be easy to kill with assasin but maybe there is a better way
wait you can put weapons on the ranger ?!
shift + right click on ranger
omg I didnt know
maybe a hint for the players would be good or a button for this
it's in the video tutorial
damn i was too excited to play didn't even scrolled down to see there is a tutorial xd
but should have an in-game tutorial when the game launches
What do you guys think about Dualeph?
he is good if you have somebody you need to bring down fast in the frontline
With good placement and in team with Rake, he can do quite some damage
3rd day playing PB1 glad I finally got to teens haha lost at wave 12 today! Thanks for all the great advice shared here!
nice!
Laser sux, autoattack rox,
Carefull to don't be in diagonal with an enemy adorius, you will just load up his omega.
This game has really got me thinking for every move! Haha kudos to the devs such an engaging game! Excited to keep playing and for everything else to come!
And when you close it, you are just thinking what you did wrong. To open it up again and try again ๐
Oh really, you use rake? I heard so many bad things about him in this chat, never even used it once
Rake is a good unit. it surprise me more and more every day.
rake is decent enough
Good to hear, will give him a chance if I see an opportunity!
Exactly Iโm even saving videos of my rounds to analyze what went wrong HAHA
rake is decent but not as the only one rogue.
You quite often need to use 2 rogues to focus. The only exception is Vermillare
Ant eater gonna get nerfed for sure
Can anyone link an affinity guide por favor?
Magma always wins. End of guide.
lol
Why is this guy chasing vermillaire hes gonna get shrekt
Infoluvial.io or Illuvial masters has the guides you seek
I think that's @proven ember chasing it so upload the nerf
Cheers mate
Question, I am currently playing PB1 on my windows laptop. If I want to test it using my apple laptop as well, is it okay to log in my account on those 2 diff devices?
yes
Thanks man!
yo who tf is yielding archos 6920 and why are they so good at survival mode
you can see the name from known people of leaderboard from illuvialmaster.
It's @chilly birch
Not to brag or anything but I got through wave 14 first try ๐ ๐โโ๏ธ
@brazen quarry
See, I know you had it in you 
๐ Rework not nerf!

Okey, i really need PB2 and checkpoints, having to climb through all waves after each defeat is devastating
Do we know how are checkpoints gonna work exactly?
not yet
Any tips on wave 19?
i cant even beat 11
Stuck on 15 today. Too much DPS on the other side, not enough to absorb it.
Anyone win any extra betas today?
try playing multiple tanks to split up their damage, while focusing your damage onto their threats
That's been the MO, but just not enough tanks to go around.
Yes quite annoying
There are plenty. Shield Ranger is one of the strongest tanks in the game. Make sure you use her.
Pros will use it
Is there a date for pb2?
No fixed date yet
Made it to #1 advantages of playing after reset died on 16
For sure
When PB2 Arena releases will there be any prolonged maintenance involved? Will there be a new client to download or just patching PB1's client?
Just new client download
hard day today. come and get me.
Oh Iโm coming
I can always count on you Rich
How was trivia today? I always seem to be at work when the fun stuff happens smh
Garf got the win
nice Garfanater at it again
We will change up the time again soon
What time do the decks change?
00:00 UTC
Anyone hit a bug where the next wave autostarts after the current one is completed? just hit it today and I didn't click anything
first run of the day. you lucky dawg 
Damn good job Shabim
Lol, those tiebreak skills. Took me three tries to get it, nice job on first go
I had best results on the first day of playing ;p
There were some leaked videos in #๐ฐใleaks It looks like there will be checkpoints every 5 waves and you will have 3 recalls.(Complete speculation and WIP of course)
I'm drunk but this deck blows
If I see the gods taping out at 22 Im happy to reach 10 but I only evry try 3 times a day
22 is only the start
I was close to the leader board this morning ......lol ...cuz the wave starts my morning times
I had spot 20 after my first (and only) game, I'm probably not on there anymore
its so frustrating you think you have mastered it then boom you wipe out......cant wait for check points
you know whats even more frsutrating? when you beat a certain wave every single run, and then get stuck on it for 3-5 times in a row 
Yeh but everyone tells me its easier once ya past the mids teans i hope to find out one day
Gotta utilize Fernite for real this time for some heals tbh(and better than Blazenite because of Nature typing)
No way
No cap on this SJUD ๐ We don't have a choice today
he flaps a go wing though
maybe double healers way to go today
The only healer i used in my runs was archie
wasnt much flexabiltiy in todays deck for sure
Can't believe I survived till wave 17.
Do I have 3 scorpions on my board? Yes I do
But you have no hair
yeah, guess why
100 squats, 100 push ups, 20km run per day?
i sleep when its hot as well
One Punch Shabim
Wave 12 ๐
Had to search for a reliable solution to that wave! ๐
Took quite some time
Do you mind telling me the idea behind how to beat it?
You beat the enemy illuvials
Just got to wave 30 in world record time!! Ty for that ingenious advice! ๐
BRO, how tf ppl kill that adorius with 3 rogues, it just refuses to die
@silver merlin gave me some really good advice that might apply to your situation
i can hop on discord streaming if you need help with 12
Yeah I'm about to actually be there if you would
im just starting up my game, so itll take me some time to get there
Haha just got it because I'm a bad bitch 
ez clap
Ill keep watching if you're not up to anything else tho :^)
y...yea.. i got a life...
Your streams always entertain me and make my day better king
regardless I appreciate you 
Who else am I gonna steal content from??
For those looking to explain positioning and movement to others, I added a draw feature to my team builder page.
Ty for your help tho man
This is so helpful tyvm
omg so jelous, my pb access should arrive today......LFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
ah.... who am i kidding. I am going again. I wont be able to sleep knowing i did not give it my all.
me too๐ญ
Iโm hoping to get my access soon too ๐ I canโt wait
Just went to wave 22 first run. and when i wanted to screenshot before launch. game crashed. ๐
somebody else puts rake, malura and rhamphire on adorius - adorisu dies before healing. me doing the same, adorius heals his cousin from covid in africa
LIKE BRUH
I should have received the email yesterday/today... i watched the spam 70k times and I don't have nails to eat anymore... I hope god Rich watches upon us and sends us the email
Question to pb1 pros. When using a granite illuvial again steam illuvial (which is fire + water) how do you calculate effectiveness? Earth is super good against fire and super bad against water. Do i simply add the numbers +2-2=0 so granite is neutral against steam?
every affinity has its own unique interactions. You shouldnt count steam as water + fire. its steam. Its just made out of water and fire. do you have access to illuvial master affinity thing?
Not sure what "thing" you talking about
Shabim he asked the pros...why are you answering โค๏ธ
Holy shit, how am i supposed to remember that ๐
I would say why, but... i rather not go there 
it becomes somewhat intuitive after a ... couple of hundred hours
Thanks bro, i get it now. Thanks!
Nop, You can't only check the Primary and will give you the good result.
Granite vs Steam = Earth vs Fire x2 (+4) + Earth vs Water x2 (-4) = 0.
You can find the same result on illuvialmaster.
i just want one more try at 22.... crash at 19.. death at 20 who know h.. death at 21 with 1 guy surviving
i cant take it bro
It's easier to know only how 5 affinities work and calculate it than know the all possibility
Take a break and come back. My coach said me that was worth it
i took several breaks
same bs
i always got a feeling of just one more
like... always
okay this time for sure last one. I feel a psychotic break coming in
i cant believe my first run of the day was 22, and 14 hours later i am still 22
ok fk this game im done 
DIVA, tomorrow, send me the screenshot for 22, otherwise i will be thinking about this wave for the next 2 weeks
Who else just loves taking a picture of a wave then you go to do it again, place everything in what seems like the same place, and then you get that fat red screen at the end. Ranger problems 
Jim, i can one up that one. imagine not loosing a wave during the whole day of grinding, and when you decide to do last last last one for sure 100% last one, you die to it for no apparent reason, AND its not even close
The level of depth in this game is INSANE. Seriously there are so many things to track yet the gameplay is clean as fuck.
This was quite a rhyme.
wen pb2, i need checkpoints
need too
Hi all, any good guides out there for survival?
Check out #๐จใcommunity-content
Or infoluvial.io or Illuvialmasters
infoluvial.io and Illuvialmasters have great articles to start with
thanks, I was using Illuvialmasters already but will check through Infoluvials.io and community content channel.
This game is very addicting and fun. I was able to make it to the top 20.
Welcome to the scorpion degen squad 
hey @zenith mortar are you ??

I have opened my emails and the website at least once per hour lmfao
@zenith mortar I just got a beta invite! But when I login and go to play illuvium beta its saying I need to register for the beta?
Head over to #998480934833754132 and we will sort you
Got it sorted! Thanks!
This is exactly correct. Composite hyper modifiers are just combinations of the primaries. If you know the primary numbers, you know them all. Anyone that says otherwise misunderstands the system.
Umbre's omega is different?
So what's the difference between energy damage and physical damage? How will we know if an illuvial is energy damage or physical? Thanks. I also got a million more questions. BTW.
Has anyone had issues with Seeforus ulting getting cancelled? (I rewatched my recording and it failed to ult twice and there were no crowd control issues). Not sure if I should report it as a bug yet or if Im missing something
๐ welcome to my nightmare, yes that bug has been there since day1 and it's so hard to fix that they're re-coding the whole targetting system to fix it.
the bug is actually deterministic tho. if at the moment Seeforus/Teeantee initiate their cast their actual focus (the one from the auto-attacks) dies or becomes untargettable somehow, the bug occurs, you lose all your energy but don't do any damage.
this bug applies actually to a lot of units and not only Snails tho, ie: if the unit your Ramphyre was attacking dies while you are in the air your Ramphyre will just come back down instantly without doing any damage
Has nothing to do with auto attacks. If any of the targets from the cast disappear, it bugs.
well damage itself can come from a lot of different instances but let's take the 2 most common : omegas and auto attacks
For auto attacks
if the primary class of the illuvial (the one he has as a stage1) is: Empath or Psion
Auto-attacks are energy Damage
Otherwise they're physical.
For Omegas, the kind of damage they deal is written on their description.
not any, only the one you are actually focusing. The omega is still working correctly if that exact unit "doesn't move" i already sent missiles to a Ramphyre in the air...
There's a reason c4 bugs 5x as much as everything else, cause it targets 5 things. Show me video or get dev confirmation and I'll believe you.
do we have it today? a bit lazy to look for that specific instance on over 20h of streams xD
Yeah it's in the deck
alright so IF i use it on my stream later... (i didn't play granite at all on my run yesterday xD) and come across that situation i'll clip it and send it to you ๐
yea, seaforus cancels his omega not only when his main target goes out of focusin anyway, even if other illuvials die around him he does it, sometimes he doesnt do it when umbres and rakes go untargetable as well. he is just bug city
yeah i noticed sometimes he actually just ignores other targets that go untargettable, or sometimes like i said he can even missile a Ramphyre in the air and kill it before it goes down xD... Bug city indeed but then the problem is probably somewhere in the timing
i'll still try to pay even more attention to that the few times i'll play it in the future and give you guys feedback ๐
Oh okay, makes sense! Thanks for clarifying that!!
If its a known issue I wont bother submitting a bug report then. Also wanted to make sure it was a legit issue
Thanks for the reply. This is very useful.
Sure! Thank you for actually being looking for issues and report them! That's why we're all here so we can help the devs doing this game as great as possible!
It doesnt happen for ador-adorious though. If adorius ally dies when its about to heal it, it changes its target and heals a different set of allies instead.
yeah for Titanor/kukka lines either, has to be something with the length of the animation and some timing in it
That surprise me. Every time I see a fail seephorus omega, it's because of his focus target.
Sometime there is a visual bug where when seephorus begin the cast, he turn his face against another unit, but it's still the focus that he was hitting that is "THE focus" that don't have to die or disappear. For the point about Ramphyre, all depend if the rocket have been launch just before he jump, as malura. If the rocket are in the air before it cast, he will be hit.
I NEVER saw that seephorus spell is uncast because of one of the 4 other focus.
Another point. I got a video from yesterday where my Titanor launch his spell, It stun but do 0 damage. Someone already saw this ?.
i use tnt/seaforus almost every time he is available. I see his fails way to much. I am a tnt/c4s main
also 
I believe you, but I analysis every time seephorus cast and is all time depending of his current focus. Show me a video where you think it's not. I need it to trust.
well I am streaming everything i do, so you are free to watch, besides that, if i dont forget. since it is a hot topic at the moment, i might catch him doing that
๐ , Yeah should try to watch your replay. your stream time is my work time. ๐
Did it die during animation? I don't think I'v ever noticed something like that
No, I watched like 20 times the moment, No shield reason, no untargetable reason. I see the "STUN" in blue appear, but HP bar don't move on 2 units.
Titanor didn't die during "launching" it, but perhaps during the travel of the spell. I have to check this.
But if the spell is able to stun, it should be able to DPS too.
Check is there was a Kukkoulous or Adorius healing the targets at exactly the same frame. This gives the optical illusion that you dealt no damage but in fact the shield / heal took the damage
I checked, the heal and shield are used before, The HP just don't move at all
Either bug, and that case you need to report it, or discrepancy between animations and actual damage.
first day on PB, I died 5 times on round 10 ahah
It'll get better :) welcome to PB!
How do you get access to beta??
Is there a guide explaining all the stats (like grit and resolve) ?
I put a list together of what I have seen here. illuvialmaster.com/Dictionary
You need to be a ranger in discord(chat and level up to level 5) and you will be randomly selected in waves. Or you can win access by playing the weekly trivia on Tuesdays.
Thanks !
Reached level 19! Now im in bed with headache ahahah
very good! congrats
Thank you! Everyday there is a new set of Illuvials right? And with PB2 they will expand the current 30 right?
00:00 UTC deck resets, correct
Everyday you get a different 20 illuvials of the current 45 available at deck reset. PB2 will add the lynx line variations plus all the variations of the tier 0 illuvials which totals around 75 more illuvials. So we will have well over 100 different units to play with, plus quite a few different mechanics they are introducing into the system which will change up the game in a huge way.
any tips for beating wave 14 today?
vermillia seems enough to kill the scoriox 9 out of 10 times, i would just find somebody to tank his auto attacks in the meanwhile. And find a way to take out the incoming rogues. I find that ryplance, sear, ranger and a kuka seems to be handling that well, your job is to find how to place them. I dunno how to give a tip btw but i hoped that helped 
Just for fun i lost on wave 2 Yesterday and i ranked 394...
Just played my first day of PB1 and I must say this might be very easy to get addicted to ๐
Cleared wave 14 before it got too hard for me; looking forward to trying more tomorrow.
For those of you with some experience; does the difficuly vary a lot from day to day?
If so, is today an average day? Harder? Easier?
thanks man! This is kinda what i went for, but had rhampy and vermillia on scoriox which i guess i didnt need in the end!
interesting... wonder what losing on wave 1 ranks right before deck reset? this would tell us total players on the day! @west plume
Ye for sure, some days the deck you have is stronger and enemy waves much weaker... it varies a lot! I'd say today's deck was medium to slightly strong, and enemy waves pretty strong
generally, if no one (or just 1 person) gets to wave 30 then the waved are pretty tough
Some decks are stronger than others depending on the day, and that varies a lot. Itโs still engaging every time though, especially considering thereโs such a limited amount of illuvials in pb1 itโs testament to the quality of game weโre gonna have in the future.
I think wave 30 is theoretically possible every reset, and generally someone manages to attain it, but there are the few days where the most top players will get to is the late 20โs
We had issues today and Iโm pretty sure yesterday, where some of the late teen / early 20โs waves were harder than the ones after, but still didnโt quite manage to hit 30.
Pb2 is going to be a major deal, and everyoneโs just looking forward to that at this stage.
Last real chance to get a good grounding of the game in this first beta before a whole lot more is added soon๐๐ผ
I play every day,and it took alot effort to die on wave 2 and then stop....
Well let us know what you find out. Very interested.
iam going drinking on saturday so i will be out all day,will take one for the team then...
thx for the info ๐
thx for the info ๐
I just got access into beta and it's VERY fun. Does anyone have resources on how the composite affinities work? Kinda confused by it
there is an affinity page at illuvialmaster.com. enjoy!
So the deck changes every day ? Is there a role dex or anything out from the community yet around this or do I need to build it ๐
Add me, I'll talk to you about this, as well as where you can talk strats ๐
Thanks but Iโm not one for DMs. I run some large discords and just canโt have them on. Happy to chat here though.
I just don't want to promote in the chat. You can find my guild and we can talk in there.
there are guilds in #899655780033261639
Itโs not promoting if someone asks though ๐
Probably right, but I'm still careful about it hhaa
Iโve got my guild, I invested in illuvium a long time ago but only just found the time to check out the game
Still a little hesitant about an auto battle genre making it mainstream. Hopefully it does what TFT couldnโt
Tft is huge
Not really, it was better than Dota auto chess but never made it mainstream
The genre never took off which was a shame. TFT had good success I agree, but it didnโt open a genre of games. Just one IMO
theres more to illuvium than the autobattler though if you dont enjoy that aspect
Thank you, I read through it and I'm still unsure about the game play. Like when I play an illuvial on the map the stats on the left side change and idk how that works
Yea Iโm looking forward to the open world aspect and hopefully a decent skill tree progression system
me too i'm probably going to spend most of my time catching illuvials in the overworld
an Illuvium MOBA would absolutely destroy though
This game has fascinated me, with so many hyped projects I wondered if this would ever be more than a YouTube trailer and itโs good to see itโs not disappointing. First look is impressive and itโs hard to put down. Which I love
This is what I dream of
i think it'll eventually get there
I just need to catch up with the community aspect. Iโm a little behind in the discord here
if you hover over them, then they tell you what they do
tha real high score
Turn on groom
Not a real thing

pro strats comin in hot
maybe I should start playing on my wife's laptop.
If you ready to melt it and buy her a new one ๐
We melt laptops around here
haha exactly. she needs a new one anyway ๐
I turned on groom the other day to see if that was the secret to not crashing
ui started lagging hard, was hard to place units, but... it didn't crash
crash #3 on wave 20
Only crash once yesterday. It doesnโt really crash on me that much
But it do like it come at the worst times lol but most likely the updates In PB2 will fix it a little
is it worth upgrading jumpsuit of ranger as well as air bladed shield or only shield?
Upgraded armor gives you something like 850 health for 10 MP. Try finding that much cost efficiency anywhere else.
Yea I usually do this, mostly so I can play with just a wireless mouse from my couch ๐. Beat wave 18 my first round today! Been hitting a wall for the last week at 14-15 so feelin good ๐ love the beta, thanks team
GG! That's exactly the kind of vibes i like to see! 
Keep it Up! Soon you'll be constantly on the Leaderboard ๐
tbf removing armor from ranger... it is worth it like... two waves/week xD
Hey guys! got in PB1 yesterday first time. any suggestions for good head start? like best way to move camera around, some shortcuts or some stuff that realy helps. like that comment before about jumpsuit and shield
Start learning all the Illuvials and what they do
this i started before getting in PB1 ๐
Then you've got a good head start
moving camera is mostly esthetic, while playing i think most of us actually don't use it xD
you can still do it with "ASWD"
This is another good habit you can start having no matter what your level is and will fasten your learning curve ๐
Do you have any GPU temperature monitoring program or such?
I'd be interested to know if it could have anything to do with the GPU overheating.
Now I've only had the PB for a day so maybe I'll start crashing sooner or later but so far no crashes. My experience as a gamer and a VR developer is that when Unreal Engine projects crashes for some ppl but not for others, it often has to do with overheating, which could be extra relevant in a beta where things are not optimized yet.
I'm sure some of the crashes have to do with overheating or my own hardware specs, but there are also others with insane specs that crash all the time as well
You could perhaps try something like MSI Afterburner, which both monitors the temperature and also allows you to over/underclock the GPU for more stability. I've used it for a long time and think it can help quite a bit.
If PB2 isn't more stable for me I'm definitely going to have to look into solutions
Whether thats changing some setting with my current hardward or upgrading my gpu
My entire computer is brand new except for my graphics card which is a 1080
Well a 1080 should be enough to run this at pretty good settings.
(I build a new computer just for Diablo 2 Resurrected haha)
You would think so !
It's not like im running on a potato haha
No, it's still a very decent card and tbh I can't see why the PB1 should be very taxing. OFC Ray Tracing and the hair takes quite a bit of power, but at least at the current stage of development and the survival mode I don't think they really contribute much to the overall look anyway so I turned them off even though I use a 2080Ti.
tried to make one run, crash on 14 (Blazenite all the way)... i guess the game doesn't want me today, fair enough xD
Yeah it doesn't have any problems, but the thing is that it actually looks a bit worse with ray tracing atm, the feathers and some hair look kind of grainy and flickery which is an artifact of some of the ray tracing settings. I would imagine that when this project is finished, only some of the ray tracing options should be activated, there's really no use for every ray tracing function in a game like this anyway, and fortunately Unreal Engine allows the developer to just activate the ray tracing functions they need.
^ that guy has a 3080ti
3090 and i have Raytracing/grooming OFF xD
Woops!
It is most likely something to do on Illuviums end and not on the users hardware
agree
Well then you have more than enough power ๐
maybe i'll push myself to play more later today's deck is fun actually, we'll see ๐
Yeah. I've worked on projects (I'm a VR developer, using Unreal Engine 4/5) where one particular model or material made the system crash, or a very particular combination of model, material and particle system. Pretty frustrating until you find out what it is ๐
Yah we just gotta wait for PB2 to see if things are better optimized for stability
I've got over 60 crashes
how much is Martini on by now ? ๐
LFG! ROAD TO ๐ฏ !!
I am trying to catch up but he is too powerful

