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He was referring to the survival PvP mode pretty sure, but that won't be coming in PB2 if I remember what Kieran said correctly
The release schedule is: survival competitive -> survival tournaments -> ascendant -> ranked -> survival pvp.
Ranked is just ascendant with the ranking infrastructure and lobby.
Bring on ascendant!
Thanks for the update! Nice to have a better picture of the release order
Just out of curiosity is there a reason you guys are so focused on Survival rather than Ascendant?
Speaking as a competitive player I am really only interested in Ascendant stuff
Cool.
We are focused on the combat engine.
I think Aaron's focus is getting the fundamental foundation right first with developing the whole system
PVP will get its time, Illuvium make it clear that competitive is a major focus for the game
Just remember everything is still so much in development, private beta is to help the team out with what they need for development first and foremost
Yup I agree. Need that combat to work as intended before getting the actual ranked out
best on what criteria? on a private beta that barely anyone plays? 
you are also the longest people who play right?
Nope I got in on like the 2nd or 3rd wave
idk about waves gimme weeks.//months
Ah a couple of months now
yea so most experienced rather than the best i would word it
So just to understand a bit more clearly:
All arena modes use the exact same combat engine. The battle that plays only depends on units in positions. Everything after that is āthe combat engineā.
All the rules before and after? Thatās each āgame modeā.
The server knows the rules and provides all the data to the client about everything.
Survival Mode tests the combat engine AND the server interactions.
Saying āI just want pvpā is all well and good, but if we did it that way youād be waiting longer.
Yah I definitely get it and I want things working smoothly
I was just curious on that roadmap
Well I've gotten 1st and 2nd in the two tournaments I've played in and I'm first place almost every day on the leaderboard
Good try though
yea again, on a private beta that barely anyone plays
sounds like empty words to me idk man
but hey it is what it is
I get you're mad at it but you're right. It is what it is
Seriously, you both sound insufferable right now. Just take a breath for a few minutes.
Itās just a beta. No need to fight over what it means to be the best.
You know what Iām mad about⦠the amount of mosquitoes on earth
agreed
coming from the Warwick brother? Aaron, aint this is what its all about
hahaha
its all good,,,, gotta banter a bit yknow
I know a fact
they fixed a major bug you guys talked about a few days ago
seeing 30 next to your names

Trust me, Iām an expert on what insufferable sounds like. But Iām in rehab.
Itās beta so I only put 10%
Yah I like how they made it harder
Game was way too easy before
Do you play on competitive or casual?
I only play competitive⦠call me a maxi
guess 
Casual for leaderboard grinding but I play very fast
The 1 minute timer doesnt really matter if you watch my tournament games
Then play competitive lol
Sure but I also want to guarantee a max out
When competitive comes out I'll be fine
Make sure you stay in rehab, we need at least 1 of the Warwicks to be the calming voice
Yah wont be a problem
no one on the leaderboard is on competitive. some people take 2hrs for one run. When there is a competitive leaderboard, it will be a thing
^
Soon
Lol I only play competitive is this why I donāt make leaderboard
Cause I donāt play the broken way
Nah, you just bad
#truuuuuth
Caveman also does every first run on competitive
I literally canāt if I play casual and start just chatting elsewhere and forget Iām playing⦠I like being engaged in the timer
I only put it on casual cause I gotta reply on chats š
We can fix that

yea, thats the only reason 
am i bugged hello
wow weird
yea
Iām not on leaderboard anyway
am i really gonna spend my day off grinding competitive for hours on end
yes yes i am
Wait you actually have a job?
And still grind 10 hours a day?
holy shit thats dedication
Yup
@dark scaffold i just wanted to tune in
Well I'm coaching some Illuvium later so yah I got work
I need coaching Iām terrible honestly
No joke lol
But
Even after coaching Iām horribad š¤£
The best
Oh itās already a while back, I didnāt improve much
I wanna make a deal and whoever plays competitive on the first day that the updated client with augments and shit come out Iāll give an eth lizard to that person⦠but you gotta be #1 at the time the deck switches
How will you know if we use competitive or not?
Because it will be the only way to be on the board
if the deck is gonna be the same as in casual, people will go to casual, get screenshots, come to competitive and win
No lizard for me 
Ppl wanna skirt the system I can just say never mind lol
Maybe we do the first round only
I want an ethlizard so bad please do this
Yup this is correct
Just give it to me Rich, I'll be sleeping š
I hate cheaters
I really dislike Air staff because your ranger becomes so absolutely useless against Rake+Umbre combo. +placement is dumb as your ranger has 10 less range than your other illuvials so she is the first to go once your tanks die.
Overall i dont think Air staff is that broken š¤·āāļø
It is broken.
Position correctly with the right Illuvials and you get clean 9-0 sweeps in the late 20s
It's brokenness is very dependent on the deck though
Alright! I used it like 4x and then quit because of the aforementioned reasons š
Yup cant just put it on any board
24 H grind incoming
Marathon session. Who can play the longest to win a š¦
Me
Hey there, I'm trying to up my game regarding classes and was wondering if anyone has some tips regarding fighter and psion Illuvials. I know how to use empaths, bulwarks and rogues, but I'm struggling to understand the right usage of fighter and psion Illuvials. What are the things to consider with those 2? Strength and weaknesses?
Will tell u once I can play
@proven ember it would be different decks yeh ? Or will you guys have another way or preventing that work around ?
its not their job to prevent this work around for a community event that rich does out of pocket
Nah, Itās done by the team regardless, so itās pointless if thereās a work around. Community events shouldnāt have loopholes the same way the main game shouldnāt
I've been playing pb1 the last couple of weeks, but now my account is no longer allowed to play it. Any idea why this would be?
I mean, I'm pretty bad at it, but not THAT bad.
This would have been my joke
i believe some of the guys had this same problem and it fixed itself after deck reseted, but to be sure we can disturb Rich a little š
Is the play button greyed out for you?
I had that bug I think 3 days last month
You have to wait for the deck reset like dziersky said
No, I just log in, and I get a box that says this account is not allowed to play pb
wtf
Happens after I complete the authorization puzzle
if its after the puzzle we had some good results after reseting your router (dont ask me why)
At a hotel, so no dice there I'm afraid. If it just needs a deck reset, I can wait a day, no big deal.
hmm maybe hotel ip address?
Dont listen to me though I am terrible with computer stuff
I'm on a VPN, but I'm always on a VPN, so I doubt it's that.
Ah ok
could you reset your vpn, and choose differed gateway?
That did it! Thanks a lot. Guess they like New York better than they do Phoenix.
I dont know you, But the puzzle is really hard. ahahhaah several times I take over 4/5 times to complete it HAHAHAHA
There needs to be a graph when placing illuvials to show distance
Competitive and Training have different decks
@zenith mortar
Better Ben
What?
"Better Ben" - dzierski's translator v2.0:
Its better to contact Ben in this case cuz he is THE man when it comes to beta features. (and beta things overall)
dzierski's adviser v1.0:
better to don't ping Ben (sunday), i can bet my lunch that he already preparing something like this
I got to wave 20 but then I had to go, already regret not trying.
Probably first time I'm top 10
Ohhhh shit, just saw this, Let's Gooo!! Day one, new build. I'll take a Liiiiizard!
How do you equip your character with different weapons?
shift + right click
Thats awesome, thank you!
Think itās gonna be harder then just āIāll take the lizardā hahaha
@bronze canopy wins this ez xDDD
what i lack in skill i have in resolve 
š š Keep working hard bro š i'm here if you need any coaching š
where's the fun in that 
Oh well then, there goes my hopes of getting anything
The enemy waves the last couple days have been especially engaging
Not sure if anything has changed re placement decision-making/process, but enjoyed them for sure
this was the GetHumbled patch 1.0
Thanks for letting us know cadence of patches once things settle, was curious!
Cant het through lvl12
i believe in you
Does anyone know what time the daily deck usually switches? š
ME! 00:00 utc
Perf thank you!!
i saw you writing garf xD
I might stream as the new deck kicks in
Im on the phone... so slow :/
OR around time when normal ppl DO NOT SLEEP!! like 7 hours after that
Thats only 8pm where im at š
you see... perfect
oh boy, tomorow is your training session in voice chat
Dealio lmao
Nice, congrats on the new PB
Oh wow Zeptyle, the one and only. I have heard about you. Are the legends true?
HYPE
EZ
haha
Just gotta accept that we will always be on top
Using Trashbird on 27.....
and Dash......
nice dash
I just realized getting 30 with these new waves is prolly just gonna make them make it even harder now
How did you handle all the earth and fire?(axon?)
I added the dash just to counter the earth.(silenced for days) It almost worked to. It came down to a ramphyere for ramphyere ult.
And there is no way I will accept defeat š
I played solo today past 20, once I get someone to work with regularly I'll be fighting you at the top.
I only had 7 more "kills" than you @lean ivy but 3 waves higher š¤
"I played solo today past 20, once I get someone to work with regularly I'll be fighting you at the top."
To be fair you gave this up
good units instead of bad ones
Yah Dash should never be on your board
Lol ya completely buged because I time out several rounds 10-20( just because of bulwarks)
I actually drew a lot of the 20s
wave 29 was malura 50 hp against 5 or so enemies swarming it, super close draw
Ya these waves were really difficult today finding time to grind will get harder for sure.
Illuvium team, I love this game!! Completely addictited. Great work to everyone on the team.
Can't wait to see what else y'all bring in the future.
Make the waves as hard as you can
The one thing I do want though is that each wave should be theoretically beatable with the deck provided
Dont want to waste time on something that is impossible
Decent first run attempt on the new deck. My 18 was laughably horrible all around
HYPE TAKES THE TOP OF THE LEADERBOARD AGAIN!!! š
This game is fuckin awesome, few points of feedback but overall smooth, even on a max!
Mac *
Hi Guys, hoping someone can help me. I received the private beta email and have downloaded the game but when trying to log in I keep getting a āverification failedā message. Not sure what to do from here but if somone is able to help I would be appreciative.
see if you are putting the same password you use to log in to the site, or try to make a new password
if you are using a VPN you may have this problem too
@rain coral thanks, yeah I tried to change my password just before leaving for work but I still got the same message. I can try again when I get home and see what happens.
@rain coral not currently using a vpn either
āverification failedā usually occurs with the wrong password or username (email)
but if you change it and the error still persists, post here and we'll check it further
just remembering DM=scam
@rain coral thanks heaps, will do.
wait for it...
@naive mantle š
@smoky python has been upping his tiebreak game
Oeh I'm top 5 š
Just let me enjoy my moment š
Can we give a synergy to the ranger?
It's actually impossible to lose after getting to like 24
I died at 19
You can prolly place your units wherever and still win
You can change weapon with shift + right click
Yah you gotta get into later rounds to fill out the team
19-21 are harder than 22-29 by a mile
Maybe I'll find some time later today to try again
Nice! š Thanks
Do we have a list of every shortcuts?
I have 2 feedbacks: There are some rogue bugs if I place 3 of them, sometimes, not always one of them does not fight. Sometimes when an IIluvial killed it's enemy it does not go to the next one. Happens less than 0.1% of the time, but it did happen. And the second one, it would be nice to include some checkpoints, so if I fail miserably, I don't need to start from wave 1 š Minor things, the game is already addictive š
Pretty sure they said checkpoints would be implemented
That's amazing! Will try even harder! š
So reading this channel I noticed there is/was a beta, is this public and how would one join it?
For now it's a private beta, you can apply with the link provided in #šćhelpful-links
@fervent barn
Something to fix the UE4 bug? (can't paste the screen btw idk why)
You can report bugs in-game. Press 'B' or the logo on the top right
I mean my game crash so can't go far in the games...
#976751873447034901 is the place to be
OHHHHH That random number generator hooked me up š Good luck getting up to me @smoky python @coarse echo @chilly birch lol.
195 might be the highest ive ever seen
So how much help did you get. Dont think I didnt see who was in your chat
None lol
Sure haha
I asked for advice once on which side, but she wrote it and I didn't see it till after
haha ok
I'm sensing salt because the AI loves me more 
Salty at the incompetency of the Devs
Like you know I do things differently. I was rocking Firesword pretty early I'll dm you. She seems to be of the similar mind of slapping Air Shield from the beginning.
you're considering me as your competition now ?
@lean ivy
Firesword ewww
Also for anyone interested I'll be doing a Livestream coaching in the Polemos Server on Wednesday 4am UTC if anyone wants to see how I find creative ways to build teams.
Jeez trying to undercut my prices
Well if anyone wants to get coached by the actual best player in the world then hit me up
@naive mantle š
@dark scaffold pure maddness
you mean pure madness to not show up?
what dose grit and resolve do?
Go see dictionary from Illuvialmaster š
*Flat damage reduction
Is illuvialmaster a fan made or official doc site?
thanks
you mean pure madness to not show up?
@dark scaffold ill stream today š so busy with random life stuff. Anyone feel free to coach me and my 10 wave maximum lol
shared screenshots are actually a real problem. hope PB2 solves this. Bad players on top shouldn't happen
you opened a can of worms with that statement
there is a super cool website for that š
No Self promotion!
loopholes....
š
I donāt even wanna bother with screenshots
If I cant use my brain to get me there then i dont deserve it
Hyperion being a guild, correct?
Correct
Currently the top ranked guild
Who are you referring too?
I haven't shared my screenshots with anyone. @smoky python and @coarse echo, @chilly birch are clearly consistent
I wouldnt call dying on round 8-12 on a first run every day consistent
And then lying about it
We are just chatting about screenshots not how long it takes to get there.
Yeh neither is taking an eternity on placements and working with multiple other people
I work with 1 other person nice try white knight
And she works with none š but your improving young man, keep it up and youl get better
Why so salty?
I dont need to get better. Thats the beauty of being the best
SJUD a prime example of the DunningāKruger effect
You clearly dont understand Dunning Kruger then
And also, speaking of lying. To claim sheās dying on round 8 to 10 on a first run is clearly not true either
do i really need to say any more? like you really want to push me onto that here, now ?
i think we both know it's a bad idea
You have taught me all about it. Taking screenshots of other people ? How sad. If you I dedicated more time to your own flaws, like taking too long for placements, and less time spying on people, youād probably finish 30 more often. Your very quiet on the days your not top, interesting
I'm on top almost every single day and have more 30s than anyone else in the world
Nice try though
keep playing Dash at wave 27 and playing Teeantee as a tank @lean ivy but don't come like that pretending to be something you're not
Someday you may be able to cycle without martinis stabilisers
LOL
You realize we dont play together for all of our runs right
Keep defending your little princess though
It just shows how pathetic you are
the princess is MAgicalDoka right ?
Guess we have to take your word for that, which judging by previous interactions, doesnāt count for much š
It fun to see you so triggered, you gonna message me again privately asking me to stop ?
Let's stay respectful
Fair
where is love in that community, i'll return in lizard channel
Your word aināt worth shit lil fella. Itās funny how quiet you are when you canāt get to number 1, and how pathetic the messages you send me asking me to go easy
yo bruuh, got a hard day?
This is the one interaction we've had in DMs
relax
I'm number 1 almost every single day dude. If I'm quiet its because I'm busy
or just dont care
Who are you ? And why are you getting involved ? Come at one and not the other, interesting
real question is,... who are YOU ?
xD
So your the guy low on the leaderboards, charging 60$ per hour for coaching, in a limited private beta with very few people. Settle down and be quiet money grabber
I feel a lot of ego here
No clever comeback ? Probably because thereās not much to say.
Does this also work for muscles?
I'd like to skip some gym days
there's not much to say indeed. i'm not interested in your opinion. Sorry not sorry
yes, its called steroids, but work a lil slower
This channel is to talk about PB1
You were interested up until the point I gave you the truth. Your opinion never mattered to me, so donāt get involved
lol it took me 3 attempts to get to 30 today. You're still at 20 š And what wave did you get to in the last tournament against SJUD? Like why are you trying to start something right now?
And Frontline Seeforus is how I got over the wave yesterday(While you were still at 22 and I was at 27) :
well while you think you're anything worth listening, ive got stuff to do, see ya guys
you have a problem against my 22 ? š® , I'm quite happy for this result. don't be so brutal against me
š nah i won't fall for this trap to publicly flame you. bye
Weāre you not leaving ? š
Hmm didn't mute anyone in a while
No, that is solid work my dude. š It was hard getting that high up.
No crashes today, something positive 
Now that you mention it. Me too!
i would flip if it would crash ima be honest
First day in a while
Illuvium Team, I'm sure this is in development but just in case it isn't, Could we have the stats update as placement occurs. EX: Once I place the 3rd bulwark on the board it would update the stats of all the bulwarks on the board with the added HP and Resistances. It would make for a better user experience imo.
Zeptyle is a guru, sir
I agree
Just went back and looked. Me and Martini are on a 14 day streak of being at the least tied for first. So I'd say the top is pretty secure
I am the best at bench pressing in my house
Top 1 in the whole family actually
hm? they are not athletes?
who cares neither am i still nr 1
gonna go tell em

yeah everyone should think so about themselves
Hm if that is an honest opinion, then i would disagree. The enemy of knowledge is the illusion of knowledge. Thinking of yourself as nr1 prevents from further development
Yes i was asking a question lol
You think Michael Jordan stopped caring even though he was number one?
Usually people at the top have such insane drives that they keep going
in a competition mindset, you go to a tournament you dont look at the guys like: oh X is very good, that guy won the last 5 tournaments etc
pr 120kg
you just go, i practiced well, slept and eaten well, i feel great i gonna win this shit
i dont know, did he?
That's sick. One rep max?
I agree, but I dont think telling yourself that you are the best all the time is a good strategy
yes
My best was 202.5lbs for 5 reps
very well done on that
That was before my injuries at the start of this year
takes years
being the best doesn't mean you can't learn from others tho so i don't see why you shouldn't
Yup I'm still improving some things
Look, if this is all for a show, the im the nr1, the best, world first etc etc then I can see that working business wise, while behind curtains the person is learning. However, if it is a lifestyle stance then it is not sustainable
PB1 channel btw...
dont act surprised
wow guys did you see teantee omega? so good
i visti mostly 3 channels, and even that for entertainment 
i assume most people do the same
Well for one, it's just true and two yah it does work businesswise
im the best in the family on bench press too
but its not impressive
that is what i mean
š
Depends on who you ask
true
You may not value something but others do
reminds me actually of vegeta and goku
Vegeta always cried he is the best the strongest the prince of all sayians
goku alwasy wanted to find someone stronger than him
and vegeta is weaker than goku
š
difference in mindset
its not that weird.. we all watched it
Oh nice. I think mine was 110kg when I was around 70kg that was years ago when I was younger lol
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easy day today, 2nd run. Who will retry to Tie upgrade ? xD
Iād say, itās fizzled out a few hours ago, so for me to come back and see a notification from refusing to let things go, is a shame.
You called her out in public over a month ago, for being a liar. Itās a pretty nasty thing to come for someone for, especially when itās not true. You reference screenshots from over a month ago, to back up your false argument, the fact you are still going on about something from that long ago, and holding on to screenshots should be concerning from your point of view
We had a full argument about this many weeks ago, and it was dropped that tonight. But next morning, your back at it again.
Sheās not been active very much since, and has not called you out, referenced your comments, subtlety implied anything about you from previous times, and yet you just canāt stop yourself from coming for her repeatedly, even after a long time has passed
I have no interest in starting anything, and I donāt, but if you are going to keep coming from her, and then get back up from other random people in the chat, thatās fine. But if the mods continue to allow it and permit it, then donāt expect for your aggro to go unchallenged
It seems a problem to you that sheās a girl, because you donāt come at anyone else with that energy, and certainly not with the regularity that you come for her.
I suggest it best you just stop calling her out, stop referring to her, and just leave it alone. But if you continue to do as your doing regarding her, whether that be tomorrow or next month, then expect a reply as I stated.
sheeeeeeeeeesh
Saddened to see all this negativity - our goal from this channel is to have discussion regarding gameplay rather than this petty nonsense. @brazen quarry please feel free to start muting, anyone that doesn't get the message after some warnings just boot and LMK. I'll remove them from the beta.
It is petty, and itās twice now that one particular person has been targeted and called a liar, with no action being taken from any mod.
It leaves the girl afraid to post in case they go for her and it attracts attention, makes them hesitant to join voice channels etc
This is why thereās not a lot of women in crypto, and hopefully the targeting stops. Itās twice now, it will happen again and again
I donāt think the guy should be muted, just warned at least and the nonsense can stop
Oh trust me, I know how much some people like women in this space š
Don't think because stuff don't get posted public, that we don't see or act on it.
Sorry, that read weird, wasn't replying to you. Just a starter to get any discussions directed toward the game and not all this other talk.
Lets hope the shittalk ends at this message cause boy it has bin a shitshow in here a few times...
Wow replies and edits are weird
Haha yes š
I guess you got to 30 again today?
I just woke up and on phone, so having trouble with discord
Better to just skip it all imo š
I did get 30. Bad tiebreak luck today though, low kill count on the board
Think I got rekt on 19 again, can't even remember
š
āŗļø
TY
Thanks you Ben, for making a great game ā„ļø
Also, if you could boost my Illuvials with 20%, that would be great
on it.
You tha man. šŖš»
Errr ser, while you are add it. Pls add my name to the boost list 
If everyone gets a boost, no one gets a boost
Maybe get on that boost soon Ben, I need it
Secret is use the Ant Eater line
How?
We really did a number on the balance of that one.
Don't think I used that but yes, he is strong
Thatās my secret
Is your computer strong enough to stream?
Maybe
maybe a seascorpion in the opposition? wrecked beetle?
Iāll show you guys how itās done
I'm starting to think this game should be more like golf. I would like a 10 wave handicap please.š
Awesome!
People will get sent to jail for that in the future
think i will moderate myself here a little ^^ feel bad about my post xD
Haha I have screenshotted and sent to fraggy.
Well done Brian!
Thanks I was stuck on 6 for ages too donāt worry š
Hope restored
Iāll just wait for real release and catch the best Illuvials, that ought to do it
Do we know how much better a top 1% will be compared to average?
Pay to win. Sorted š il need them too Iām not consistent at the top and only scraped through 21 today I think, Iām pretending Iām collecting for sjud but I may turn and rule them all!
You shouldnāt make your plan too public then. š
Haha good point š
Iām not sure il be at the top top anyway so we will see. Iām just hoping to beat Kieran in leviathan for unreasonable amounts of eth
0.5? š
Just gotta loose small amounts first. Then tease him on twitter for a million ILV and BOOM
Iām thinking way more š
Yeah thatās a good idea. Il probably do that anyway lol
Wen reset?
00 UTC
@bronze canopy @analog carbon
schedule for tomorrow:
8:00 am - playing with dzierski competitive
8:03 am - laughing at dzierski cuz he died on wave 3
let's have some FUN 
I believe in you
AND YOU ARE IN!!!!!! 8:00 am
dont be late xD
timezone?
utc+2
I'll be there to laugh at you ā¤ļø
COME ALL!!!!!!! LETS HAVE SOME FUN GUYS !!!!!!!!
on 3 we all will start playing xD
winner will be muted for 1 hour (need some help from a friendly mod xD)
winner will be muted? why not other way around. only winner can brag others will get the mute of shame
you nailed my reasoning xD
you are in as well so...
yeah i'll be laughed at i know :((
Would love to, I have to see how work goes, kinda shitty at the moment
no excuses
But you start playing at 7 so you already got to know the waves my dear š
will not touch game till we all are ready š (at least i will try xD )
Well I will join for the fun š¤£
That's the goal
So see you tomorrow, I might be late 5-10 minutes, please wait for me
what is tankier in general, 6 bulwark or 6 earth?
Damn todayās waves are rough..
Iām not the best at this lol
First game of this style
Join us in 7 hours and 24 minutes for a fun time playing the PB ^^
Depends on what the enemy is. High damage enemies are more effected by physical and energy resist provided by bulwark but low damage enemies will be more effected by grit and resolve provided by earth.
Do we have a new deck every day?
yep. pretty sure next deck starts in 5 mins
Sweet! Nice concept!
Where is best in depth guide for learning? Me and my girl are just playing around seeing how far we can get lol
i wish there was one. watch some of the coaching vids on youtube. i learned some from those
im not great but ill stream and see how far i can get :p
Whatās your fav illuvials so far?
all of them XD
they're all so good for different situations
im super excited to see the ones that arent in PB1 yet
Titanor and adoredo are 2 of my favs so far
"The Guy Low on Leaderboards" š
Yep, so if you change that to overall, youāl see what Iām talking about š your replying to me with this many hours later though, and you didnāt get the memo from the earlier messages it seems
That is overall
Itās July āŗļø
Yah its a new month
SORRY for having been busy in june xD
Why don't you look at June and see the results š
Letās have a look at the overall š it shows more than just picking random months, like July, of which we are only 5 days into š
Congrats on being number 3 five days into the month of July though āŗļø Anyway, Iām off to bed, Good luck today šš¼
š haters gonna hate i guess
No hate bro, just facts āŗļø have a great day man ā¤ļø
Deck isn't as good as yesterday but still strong
Unlucky š
still low leaderboard?
Damn and I thought #š°ćtoken was most toxic channel
Lose the tiebreaker š¦
why my post got deleted?
Self promotion
Gonna be keeping a closer eye on this channel
The toxic ones take away the fun for the good ones š
you kidding me right now, ppl are jumping here on each other, talking shit, nothing is done, when i want to do something fun you deleting my posts? its not self promotion
not asking anyone to go to my channel, click on anything
we are going to play in voice chat
You don't know what happens in DM's, something was done š
Free Dzierski! He isn't harming anyone!
i think you shouldnt delete my post, i wanted to make this place more fun and you just decided to delete my post...
from everything what was happening here, i'm getting deleted...
am i late
People are close to losing beta access, I don't think you should worry about this š
dzierski its not on fraggy, core contributors dislike how their product is being misused, she is just following the guidelines
but am i late tho
I think he starts in 15 min š
or 45
Or maybe he doesn't because I delete the advertisement š¤·āāļø
I'll probably check out the new deck when Grant stops streaming
Are y'all joining @dark scaffold
nope sorry buddy, its not place for me anymore, but you guys have fun here š
omg
wtf?
join in to see 4 of us "compete" to get muted by fraggy! Or just nothing xD
see you guys at 9:40 š¦

I missed all this, what r people doing to misused the game ???
im back š
im depressed now my mute is over and all are leaving š
i thought my punishment is over?
How can I help? Longer mute? 
no join in voicechannel ?
I'm in meeting, no sound atm
hm, I cant put words in core contributors mouth, but thats the vibe i felt
Ok , but what r they actually doing? Literally just curious š§
Well as someone who's played Autochess since Warcraft 3, I wanna say this game is a great addition to the genre. Look forward to future developments and excited to see the nature of what the MMO will bring (been looking for a game to put a lot of time into for a while). As an objective investor and someone who works in Web3 as a p2e gaming analyst, I think it will make or break the validity of the genre for mass adoption...for a while atleast. What's being done is fantastic and more time they put into development I know the team will strive to deliver on everything they promised.
How often does the deck get reset?
Daily at 00:00 UTC
Legion tower defense š
Actually it was, crazy I know
Played wc3 custom games religiously, since 2005
Sure
Autochess specifically refers to well... autochess
But yah autobattlers themselves have been around forever
I think there was even something in starcraft brood war like it
Oh really? Sick.
On one hand I really like the shop aspect of autochess and how the randomness provides some different paths you can go down depending on what you roll
But I also really like deckbuilding so Illuvium will be a good balance
I played a ton of magic the gathering so building decks and theorycrafting is something I enjoy
Yeah the deck building aspect is something I enjoy about it, gotta do it a lot for my job as a purchasing strategy for scaling with scholars
I had to play that game against my father and bro's when i was 10~. Always lost so i kind of lost my passion for that š
But yeah cant wait for it to be added to the game š
You know how many years I played backgammon and checkers against my dad before winning haha
I feel the pain
Makes that first victory sweet though
hahaha
And Euchre
My grandma and I played a lot of "Go Fish" so I was able to get some wins
With autochess sometimes the build you're in just runs into bad matchups you can't beat since there are 7 other players in your game
But since we will be building our own decks, if we cant beat a matchup then thats our own fault
Gotta read the meta properly and build a deck that has game vs the rest
Or you have two or three good comps you know how to pivot into, that you know work well depending on items...and they're all being savaged by everyone else
Yah
I wonder what kind of format competitive play will have since there are many options for deckbuilding types
I love the concept of your own deck being a time and collectors journey
straight 1 deck vs 1 deck, can do 1 deck vs 1 deck but you have a sideboard you can add stuff into, or 3 decks vs 3 decks elimination type
I think 3 deck, 1 ban deck has worked for hearthstone and strivewire (when that was up) could work for this
I'm a bit biased coming from magic but I like having small sideboards
I'm not familiar
In Magic the decks are 60 cards but you can have up to 15 cards in your sideboard
So game 1 you have to play with your main 60 card deck
But for Games 2 and 3 you can swap out cards with your sideboard cards
So if you need a specific counter to a deck that you might be weak to then you put the counter in your sideboard so you can add it in
Right so that's the alternative to a ban deck
Ya
So for Illuvium you could maybe play a mostly fire deck with a little of nature/whatever. But if your opponent is mostly granite, you can have a sideboard of Water Illuvials to counter that
Just a different way of dealing with things
Yeah I think because what I understand of the current gameplay that's definitely viable but based on what I've seen with this game being comparable to other autobattlers, there's so many ways to ramp up synergies so it won't be as easy as subbing (I have no clue, just initial instinct) but a premade deck has it's limits that's predictable for strategical thinking, even knowing you might have to take a loss and play on the edge if your deck doesn't add up
Right, had a brief read, what I get is that some are bitchin cause they are loosing and think that some are cheating by sharing screen shoots lol is that right?
Can someone explain how the hero (girl) gets an affinity? Sometimes she covers an extra nature or earth or fire, im trying to work that out?
shift + rightclick on her
Don't worry its impossible to figure out without someone telling you
okay that makes so much more sense now lol
I had like 30+ runs before reading the chat here and seeing someone mention it
Had no clue
Yeah ive been playing all day
figured it out day 1 wave 1
and ive been trying to work it out
You sir, are a master at unintuitive beta gameplay.
you know it
I like the discussion about sideboards, but do you think that if we play PvP with mastery points, that allow us to max out at like 6-9 illuvials, then we'll have the sideboard included in our main 20 card decks. So maybe we're overthinking stuff from the start, without the whole picture known.
Yup definitely a possibility
I was thinking that the 1v1 mode would be hard to manage if this was like TFT, Like APM the last second to do your last placement and the fight.
But what about to have a "Defense Phase" and an "Attack Phase" for each round.
Defense Phase would be that you know the opponent that is in Attack Phase will be able to see your placement and counter you and then you switch.
and then detect to see the difference and who deserve to win the round.
From what I recall things like Augments, ranger items, etc will also be 'cards' ion your deck
I think augments are cards, but ranger items aren't.
Ah ok
I doubt we'll see the ability to play 20 cards in 1 pvp games at once.
So we'll have different "Hands" that we can play out of our deck.
But that way will be retard.. like mind game and full random..
Augment and item that could compensate a bad placement against the enemy ?
should be impossible. the placement is to much important.
Alright, seems interesting. So I haven't seen items yet but if they influence the game as much as other autobattlers, then reveal of placements first then items is an interesting twist
I think it shouldn't change much as items are gonna go on your appropriate carries / frontliners regardless, placement is the most important and that's blind
Unless there's some deranged op cc items
I'm sure there will be plenty of OP items haha
Just going to comment my personal opinion on some of the conversations I've read recently in this channel.
I'd prefer reading conversations from the top players that are competitive but respectful. I would love to see players in the DAO that we could be happy to have leading the way in tournaments, not just through awesome player skills but also in terms of being real champions that people can look up to. There is enough toxicity in the world that we don't need to bring it into our gaming space at Illuvium. No matter how good someone is, doesn't give anyone the excuse to act like a jerk. Not calling anyone out, nor do I care to even remember who was acting this way. Be as competitive as you want. You do you. Just stating my personal opinion.
lol 397 atk spd
Real fair
I totally agree and will do my best to be a positive impact on illuvium.
In fact, I think we should not boast anymore and/or share wave screenshots. I'm guilty of it, but from now on I won't do it in this server(I think that should stay in the guilds). It builds the reputation of good players, but it also makes people who can't do that well feel inferior. Some even feel hesitant to post in this channel because of it.
I would love to build a gaming ecosystem that doesn't feel like league or Dota. Those games are some of the most competitive games, but they can be so Toxic. You end up only playing because you are addicted to the competition and hate the game.
This should be fun and engaging. I hope the other Leaderboard players will do the same.
If he actually becomes a phantom this will no longer be a thing...But Umber as a slayer could permanently stay in the shadows lol
I am suffering, do you have some strategies to make yours teams?
If you can get granite, that is always a good start. In this version of the game it's also good to put a shield on the ranger (shift + right click)
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I liked that granite + granite I guess, that huge tank with that purple, invulnerable for 4 seconds
I could help you out, I do my first runs at 8am CET if you're awake. I could give you some tips to get past some of the early waves
I could help you out too
yeah me too, or so would a lot of ppl. But this is not a place to self prom guys š
While these types of self-promotion posts are not allowed, you can write your promo info in your profile. Then when someone asks, you can simply refer them to click your name/pfp and they will immediately see that you are a coach. That will keep the mods from deleting self-promo posts and you display your info / channel etc. via your profile.
In the spirit of starting a conversation around the PB1 what everyoneās top 5 composite?
depends, talking about their innates or including the ones we'll be able to enable later (ie. 2 mystic)
Just got back from vacation to discover I got the Beta email while I was out. Cant wait to get started!
You choose good sir
So here's my top 5 composites that we know the effect but havent been able to test yet:
Mystic, Wildfire, Slayer, Harbinger, Tsunami
Hey! congrats!
Hope you'll enjoy as much as we do š
Interesting. Is this the raw composite, or does it also factor in the Illuvials which have it?
raw composite effect
I'm interested in berzerker. but mostly because I just think that playstyle is fun.
i am too.... but just because of Ryplance xD
Wildfire ? You speak about what trashbird actually has ?
"trashbird" as you say is actually like turtle, if you know the techs it does the job š
Glad that we play together soon to learn me that. But it Will be hard to convince me !
just a bit expensive for what it does tho have to agree
As its like a late unit and you spend already 40min to go there.and you loose wave every time you put in. I dont try anymore
that's because you never had Ryplance, Teeantee, Blazenite on your board, all 3 of them survive till the end but Blazenite is top dmg with 6k damage and healed more than Archeleon
Teeantee ? Why is it here ? Hahaha
because there's Goliant in the board too
but i was talking about dmg dealers i had in my comp
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Aha, I never used the fire bird
Dont try if you want reach the leaderboard. As synalph
i requires a bit of effort to learn HOW and WHEN to use it. but if you succeed it's pretty rewarding
like today Fernite makes an amazing job on my way to 30
I think Zep is trying to confuse us all here
He wouldn't do that, I would remove his beta access
But. You donāt have the power? š½
Only 1 DM needed 
small sample from my 20 today š
I see the bird! š
She does no ? Seems to saw a lucius message about it
I don't have time today anyhow
I think you put the bird in right before you took it out again, so you would have some āproofā
yep if we f around too much she can tell them we're bad boys and we get no more game š¦
You might be on to something š
š imagine you grief the screenshots on purpose just to trick ppl on discord 13h later xD
Advanced tactics, yes yes 
Reason? Too good ? š 
You can write an IIP for everything, just follow the right steps š
i mean hopefully at least one of them stands for me xD
You need 3 though
Haha I don't think it would make it to a vote, there are steps that have to be followed
i'm happy with one, not sure i deserve more xD
When Zep is gone, only 20 more to go before I claim top spot. Nice nice
Mmh that give me the 3rd place instead of 4th
Youāll be booted too, just wait. Need an angle though š¤
so you expect yourself the 4th best player around @lilac grail ? š
Just follow the actual leaderboard
today or the monthly?
btw what does the actual leaderboard for today look like? is someone playing?
3 playes 30, like 4 players 24 and the rest 19ish
really? oh lemme check you make me too curious now
wait... was 24 even hard?
cant remember
Sounds like it
just looked at the screenshot and... nope not much actually, ppl just need to make sure they solve all the threats quick enough
Haha let me come back from work and start to play xD.
Oh didn't saw the today leaderboard. Happy so š
nah it was actually not too hard, scoriox was in the forn if i remember
i overfocused the dualeph
yeah looking at it doesnt seem too hard and tbh honest once i solve 19 i just never lost till 30
because what makes it hard before that is just the lack of MP. once you can play whatever you want it gets pretty easy
yeah, but when i get to the stage of being in mid 20s
im just exhausted after 7-9 hours
ill go for a few more runs
did you consider taking breaks? i honestly don't know how you do to keep grinding the same waves over and over all the time like you do
I always consider taking breaks, I am just unable to 
i have an addictive personality
it can be anything really
actual leaderboard who was PerkArchos ? can't remember
That's @late lagoon
oh GG @late lagoon ! š welcome to today's 30 club!
Today i'll be your host š¾
I was there yesterday too. Might be making a habit of it!
Ooo is that frobei on 29. Surely he will play again lol
yeah but yesterday i didn't play enough time to get there so i wasn't able to host you š what do you drink ?
Everything š
yeah it's him but he's busy this evening from what he told me so i hope for him he can replay later
We have pretty good rng kill count anyway so hopefully safe š
bruh xD 202-201-200 is mad! xD tie breakers today went nutz! if frobei or anyone else gets exactly 203 i'll be pissed ngl xDDD
Yeah itās almost not worth him getting 30 just to stay in the same position š
i mean Caveman has pretty bad tie breakers tbh
Yeah think he was top yesterday tho out of 6 ppl so swings and roundabouts
like somehow frobei killed more units on wave 29 than Caveman xD
Skills
didn't Martini end up in front of him ?
I didnāt think so might be wrong though
my bad xD @coarse echo is the worst ever at tie breakers
I need the rng Iām a bit behind on the leaderboard. Struggled the first few days this month
yeah Friday was tough iirc
Good thing I was the only 30 day before that and didn't have to tiebreak š
haha i win tiebreakers today because i was the first reaching it 
Rngesus doing work
Re the competitive vs casual leaderboard: if casual is removed from the leaderboard separate waves will be needed for that mode, otherwise
- people will just learn the waves on casual and then move them over to competitive
- weāll get the same end result, just with lower quality of life
Not sure how much automation there is in wave generation (I.e. how easy to implement), but would give us effectively 2 wave sets to play a day (double the fun for us, double the info for the team) and delineate the modes more clearly
Fire = +2, Earth = +1.
Fire burns nature, while you can throw rocks at plants to destroy them as well.
thanks !
i throw rocks at everything to destroy it
air? eat a rock. Leaf? rock. Fire? Ima rock on it. earth? Eat rock bish
Take that Mr Plant!

What did @warm kraken do wrong
Everything.
what didnt he do wrong
wow
where can i find that image that someone made about wich synergies was good against what
there is a good tool on IlluvialMaster
thanks
I personally use the one from infoluvial
@dark scaffold @bronze canopy @fair hemlock @lean ivy are we going tomorrow for that sweet little contest again?
It was actually really fun
Maybe Iāll join
We also need @smoky python as commentary again 𤣠was so much hype and emotions š¤
what time was this? I went to sleep early last night, but would love to see it happen again.
I believe they said there will be a separate set of waves
Awesome
Correct
Itās 8:10 am german time (I think utc +2)
I'll be there
Hey can you link to this?
Cant post links, sorry. But you can just put it into your browser or google it.
I cant wait for the overworld.
Is there a quick reference guide somewhere that shows details like every strength/weakness pairing been searching and youtubing and not having much luck
you could check out the pinned messages! there are a lot of charts there for affinity advantages (Hyper charts) š
#š®ćilluvium-arena message
thx, that's what I needed
This one is a little more intuitive but can't be used as easily for the composite affinities.
Oh man, client crashed while I was putting together the winning build for wave 12. All progress gone š¦
Other than that, fantastic stuff so far!
happened to me at wave 13 š¦
its fun playing. Failed at wave 17.
Decent run
did you guys already do it or is it in 30 min
I believe it's in 30 min
ah i thought sjud is gonna join us as well
aight ima hype myself up with some naruto AMV and lets do it
Good morning dear friends š
@brazen quarry you gonna join today? š (i mean playing also?)
Sorry, I can't
š¦ no worry my dear
@lean ivy @fair hemlock @dark scaffold @smoky python waiting on you guys š
anybody else that didnt played already today and wanna join our little contest? (playing simultanously, competetive mode, who can go the furthest)
sorry i hope i didnt disrupt you š
haha nope all good
well all but shabim are still sleeping i seems anyway š¦
ah, I forgot about the comp, was gonna check that out. Maybe another night
Who won š
those who showed up š
I want play it too š„²
Ya Sorry had a meeting come up and could not make it. 6amUTC is perfect time for me most days so ill try to be there.
having to start over after losing in this beta mode is extremely frustrating and painful. The client should allow you to try again with your board as it was at the level you are at, or move backward a level or two in case you need to change your buildup in order to get thru the tough level. Having to start all over again is way too time consuming and you are going to frustrate users long-term to the point they wont want to play IMO
There will be checkpoints in the next version
When are we getting hearts ablaze though! Thatās the real question!
Just treat it like: okay, not good for enough, gonna get better. And analyse every level from new to try and beat it āmoreā than the last time. Itās actually quite rewarding
Completely disagree, and so do the devs apparently as they are planning to implement checkpoints. I played for several hours yesterday, and while it's easy to tell yourself this the first few times you go back to the beginning, it becomes quite boring after awhile and I'm certain gamers will not tolerate this long term. Additionally, for beta testing I assume the bulk of the interest lies in how the more complex scenarios perform, and wasting 10-15 min to replay levels 1-10 every time I have to restart is telling the creators nothing of interest either
We all agree with you. And this has already been leaked for the PB2. You can find how the checkpoints will work in the #š°ćleaks channel. But I will mention that you can learn a lot from repeating the early waves, As @zenith bough stated. Some of the 1 on 1 match-ups you can test will be useful not just for Survival but for PVP when you need to know who will win in a match-up.
I understand what you are saying and I am looking forward to the checkpoint system too. A lot! It what just a comment on how I cope until that stage. And for me personally, the setup now is already really rewarding and interesting.
Interesting, would have thought it'd be the other way around!
What's the ETA on waves going past 30? (i.e wave 50, 100, 500, etc) I'm guessing PB2, or maybe open?
Yes by ~22 you have your best team and enemy team is almost maxed too, they cant scale much more at this point (unless they put a scoriox in the middle š)
2 runs today... and i can already tell you... GOOD LUCK with 21! xD
GG yeah 15 caught me offguard 1st time too š
Hi Zeptyle, big fan here
Game Crashed twice at wave 13 š¦
hahaha G Fucking G ! i only did 2 runs tonight, done till tomorrow š
Iāll bask in my win as long as I can then š
yeah you deserved at least that š
21 is definitely a hard wave
hey thanks man! appreciate
I did a thing
Woop congrats
Easy 30 day
Amazing
Bullshit RNG
Any Tips for wave 15?
Same as always. Play good units
Once Titanor goes Hyper it makes things so much easier
Yupp , I will give another try.
So that would mean the strategy element need to be pushed to next level? Ie combinations benefit needs a buff?
No certain combinations are definitely needed but you should still be playing the top tier units that fit within them
Oke thx š
Don't play a bad unit just because it might fit your synergy better
Building high over broad which one you think works better?
Because there are a limited amount of Illuvials right now there are a lot of bad ones out there
High means expensive, broad means more units
Depends on your experience level in my opinion
It's easier to play a lot of units and not mess it up
If you only play a couple high cost ones and you mess up the positioning its a lot of wasted mastery points
So basically if you can kill something on there side of importance invest heavily, otherwise dont?
Im gonna try your approach, thx
Yup
So whats your approach wen there is not 1 target you want to kill?
There's always a target I want to kill
Just gotta be able to identify what they are
I will let you know how well its going for me in the future, usually i came till wave 20 or something.
wen pb2
@hallow gulch do I try again to win the tie break? Or enjoy a day of not playing for 5 hours
wow same time and kills as @coarse echo thats a mad level draw
Yeah il take it. Need those illuvialmaster leaderboard points!
enjoy the rest of ur day
yeah thats what im playing for, really wanna try and get top 10 for the month on there if I can
I've improved a ton over the last few days, hadnt really played for a few weeks before that, sometimes taking a week or two off and then getting back in helps unlock new stuff
Not sure I can play for the next 3 days so ul overtake me easy enough anyway
if u know what i mean
Yeah itās the same when Iām grinding a day a couple hour break makes all the difference
Is it going to be a day when entire top 20 is going to wave 30?
Yup
I didn't even play yet today
Do the waves max at 30? Or for some reason no one can make it further?
For now 30 is the max
Dang. So yall would keep going. Ugh 15 is such a struggle for me
I only played 1 game today but I think I also died on 15
Keep in mind after the early 20s you will have the best your deck has to offer mp wise. So then it just turns into positioning and gets easier.
Yeah after 21 today it was fairly easy. I died on 15 twice today I think too.
I just did 15 but then got rekt on 16 
made it past 13 today, gettin better for a non gamer lol
This was me today. Played two rounds and 16 rekted me both times.
Hello guys. I just tried the beta for the first time and I have a lot of questions š I will appreciate your help.
1) Is there any visuals about synergies where I can see what counter what? Like water counters fire, etc?
2) Can I change my in game nickname?
3) I set up all graphic settings on "epic" but my game still have bad graphic. Is that normal in beta? I also have lags. Can the problem be with resolution? Or maybe it is problem with my computer? I have MacbookAir with M1.
4) My mouse cursor is getting stuck all the time. Almost every time I click on something my cursor gets stuck. I need to click again to unstuck it. Is this regular problem or only on my side?
1 have a look on illuvialmaster website on affinities page.
2.no til private beta 2 by the looks of it.
3.might just be your computer put the graphics on lowest settings and see if the lag goes.
4. I havnt had that problem so no idea but maybe your graphics card isnāt quite good enough. But def try the graphics on lowest possible and see if that helps
Oh nice website. i'm going to check it out. I will try to lover my graphic and I hope it will help. But the thing is that even with top graphic settings the graphic is bad
The graphics are fine on low quality too. It will be your graphics card having a meltdown I recon
Can I affect somehow that my Illuvials will attack a specific enemy?
Does positioning matter?
Shit I hope I will be able to play the game...
Yeah I had to get a new laptop for it so good luck š
I gues there could be some graphic optimization for the full game š
Yeah they said they would be optimising it and eventually playable on mobile so most laptops should be able to handle it eventually at lower settings Iām guessing
And this?
Oh yeah basically they attack the nearest opponent. Same with your rogues but they will jump to the back line.
I changed my graphic settings and it is working fine...
There are so many affinities š Impossible to remember what is powerful against what and the opposite š Crazy š
Tough day
Yep.. first day past wave 14 for me so Iām proud!
Can anyone tell me how do I equip shield on my character?š„²
shift + right click
Thx š
Wave 17 š
Looks like wave 17 is a tough one
Do we have an idea of DAUs for PB so far vs number ofpeople who have access?
would be interesting tosee what % of people are playing
I also would like to track retention #s
at least one is playing daily
Well done š - I am just trying to get into double digits (wave 10-12ish). Have made it a few times over the last few weeks so learning every time I play.
Keep on improving
I try to play every day or two (usually just one pass - donāt have the time to grind). Whatās your guess of % playing?
any tips on wave 12 with 3 rogues ? i get rekt
this is one way to do it
Have you checked out TSG's videos on YT? He has a series with Illuvium coaches. I've watched Zeptyle, Caveman and Frobei so far. I am not a gamer and they have been super helpful. He has a new one up from yesterday that I have to go check out, not sure who it is with. Anyhow, these guys are amazing and they give lots of great tips.
Appreciate you sharing the love! Yea those sessions changed the entire way I play the game! A lot of useful info in those videos!
Thanks for the positive feedback man! Appreciate! 

