#🎮〕illuvium-arena
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Does + mean they stack to 800%?
Yes
@pseudo phoenix ggwp 😄😄😄
lol epic movie
Are the augments now reverted to as they were before the „full simplification“ patch?
Guess I might need to give it a go again then
bot's units lvl 7-11. realy? xD
I'll see if i can get something going with that this morning
I guess „ascendant aka mini gauntlet“ is not needed if you play against 1 player anyway
if you whanna upset of shop scam you/stay in que for 2 hours. and play roll-roll-roll game, why not play ascendant
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round 21. bot got vermilliare. shop give me just 2.
random it's fun.
ascendant rating reset tomorrow? @zenith mortar
31st–60th: $2.50 each
61st–100th: $1.25 each just remove those and bump top ranks tbh 1 dolar week is a joke
but it's in ILV. when it's hit 420 you get 150$.
true
No because it was reset last week
so, we can start grind now?
You could also literally do any side hustle and buy more tokens instead 🚀
i'l not got into this trap again
I am buying on a daily basis. Got my average down heavily. This time there’s the difference that my tokens are not all locked
RattyData lobby tracker has been updated to show gauntlet match history…
Waiting on api update to include ascendant… section is in just need to connect pipe when available
Lmk if yall want anything changed or added
Grind ser
0 games.
guys. fast games in ascendant. 3min 6k exp.
let's go.
just don't forgot click ready button every round.
go
are rewards also back in gauntlet
but if I lose all the fights, I don't get any xp
do you think this could be improved a bit?
if you play with friend, you can farm 90k in 30 mins. it's x2 faster that in gauntlet.
What do you mean with ‚friend‘?
ask someone help you.
you stay in discord. click find game together. and made everything fast.
click ready in 5-10sec, so you not have wait 1 min on preparation round
then you pick units need to lvl up. your friend pick hes highlvl units, and rush lvl> so you got more exp.
With previous ascendant back then this type of stuff was considered matchfixing and against rules I believe. Not sure if it’s all that relevant now with rewards being so low honestly
I mean you could also just play against your Smurf account at this point
it will be slower. as well you have to split deck>so you will kill high exp units.
Do you get more exp based on number of units killed or just whether you win a round?
Illuvials XP system explained: Arena XP formulas, level scaling (1–60), and Prestige levels (61–100) progression details.
Does the xp booster stacking really work?
Could you fix it please? @worn tree 
I think that this is a high priority because some players bought both
ascendant can be weird I had chukoondi I was seeing @viral marsh having a chukoondi, on his side, I rollled all my gold last turn to try to get what I wanted, not one but I didnt not seem to be block by him
We are fixing it
so now we are trick by the bugs
you can sell units from opponent bench. not all, but some for extra coins
use untill they fix it.
i did not exect to win so I was experimenting but, I was surprise to see unit for 2 chukoondi, but not enough unit to make a rai lee
at the end i was getting 5 tatopee per roll
did you made a chukoondi and not use it or it was just an illusion on my screen
time to time game create copy of your unit on opponent bench.
in this case it's less unit in shop as should.
and you can sold it from opponent bench by use hot key (C).
OMG.... ok
I wonder what will stop people from creating multiple account and farming one with another
just need to wait for @viral marsh to sleep lol
less rating. i got 12 for last game.
it's mean as biger will be difference as less game give.
i think at some point you will got +7 for win, and -50 for lose
but you can still farm tons of exp
only if games will be fast. if 5+ min game>better farm gauntlet
as well you can't farm exp for units you need mostly.
so all these monkier were in double
I mean you were playing against me who just started playing ranked Ascendent and ran into you twice so I imagine I give about as much rating to you as my Illuvials gaining XP vs. you (aka. none)
i gues so.
have no other idea why sometimes you can't find stage-2 unit, if your opponent already buy 4-5
everyone who play ascendant at 1200. and i'm at 1400. so i start earn less.
but minimal amount for gauntlet was +13 for 1st place. here will be less
the ILV brand will not be great for new player........
it gets so confusing sometime with all the double on our ownside of the board... now we have to care about double on the other side
Isn’t ascendant just for leveling useless T1 units? Like you’re never getting to T4 or T5 units properly?
I guess its good for beginners, they can start with ascendant, they dont have to invest to much to be able to be competitive if they want... but the game has to run smooth
Yes, they can buy relatively good T1 units for pennies or do some ADR runs and have a team ready
Ohh did the game start
shit just realized i was in a game 😅
That happens everytime i lose a game🙂
teach me master 😂
I'm queued les go
I'm scared 😅
it'll be fiiiiine
yeah, you will be first 😛
What XP Boost are you playing with?
unless fox plays... thennn
both. but better test with different if you still not buy it.
and that was long ascendant game. so i got almost 10k.
ussualy it 6-7k here.
I now have both too and wanted to make sure it was what I should be getting. The game I played before you I won and I got this.
just got 7.5 in this game.
probably you game was longer and you kill more high tier/stage units
Yes, my game was longer against the other opponent than you against me. I still got 2,200 out of our game we just had though which is at least something. Glad to get XP on a loss still.
1/2 ascendant
Is it a gauntlet game? If so it's ridiculously low for x7 boost
If it's ascendant it's good
I still need to get fuel and this migration to end so I can get my funds
I blew all fuel prior to migration on stage 3 OW runs
Ascendant.
Zero experience gain in ascendent for a loss is bs. Especially when matchmaking isn't considering elo. I'm getting farmed by foxspirit and I gain nothing for it. Just bleed elo 😅
Well I've paid money to level. It shouldn't be conditional on whether I win or lose. If anything you should gain more experience for losing. Because as we all know, we learn more from our failures than our victories
totally agree you should get some exp even if you loose... but getting more exp when you lose? o.O
Why not, think about it. Winners are already gaining experience and elo and rewards. Their performance keeps compounding in gains. But losers get nothing. They should flip the script on experience and give the loser more than the winner
Think of it as a catch up mechanic
i give you some minutes to think about it before i answer 😄
if that happend> i just send my assets to 2nd account> join game>conside>get exp.
or just play to lose for farm more exp.
Hey I'm just riffing ideas out loud. I never said this was perfect 😅
That said, I shouldn't be going 1v1 with the top ascendant player and getting nothing when I've paid money to gain experience. I should always be gaining experience when playing. That's what I pay for
yea i agree
i can t function at all
Daddy shat out a Trash Bird 😭 OGs will understand this reference
revenant chip on trash bird is hot
THIS GAME IS A SHAME FOR ILV
the game bugs more than ever
is the team lost their mind
ascendant is not working
I’m not surprised
Is it specific to you?
i dont know
When rolling in Arena Ascendant, the Illuvials keep overlapping or some of them just disappear... it's impossible to keep track of them. I hope the team is aware of this
I put a t1s3 on the board and it dessapear.....
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really unfortunate that i can level so many illuvials playing that comp
🤦♂️ 🤦♂️ 🤦♂️
when I sell stuff on the other side of the board like i have been to to do, it sell stuff on my side without showing it
today
but if someone loses repeatedly, they get bored quickly... because they don't gain any xp
I think XP gain in Ascendant mode should be balanced a bit
When I win 4 rounds against an opponent, I earn between 7k-10k XP
The opponent should get half of that... why is it 0xp?
Yes, maybe this opens a door for potential exploits, but the community consists of a specific group of player right now—who would even do something like that, and why?
Gg goofy and blaze, first time I ever beat Blaze and his amazing deck
I played 3 more, If I have anything running on my computer in the background like even a webpage then it make the game bugging for me. I have to make sure nothing else run to make the game playable.. I was far from having this kind of problem with Gauntlet
That was the closest ascendant game I’ve ever had tank, gg. We made it to T3 cards
Just to clarify- Ascendant XP points: are given to an Illuvial if they win a round regardless of whether the player loses or wins the game?
I haven't been reading on Discord as much, doing business taxes.
eww
dont bring up taxes pls
and ill tell you in 2 seconds
haha
i havent won a round yet against @shut yacht
When you lose you can now say you did it on purpose to help me out.
but i didnt win a round lol
I can't say 100%, but I saw some people saying earlier that if you lose ascendant, you don't get any xp at all
At least I think that was the convo they were having
Which sounds roughhh
Hmmm so it must be based on whether rounds are won. I thought we just got a pittance for playing. Thanks for doing the research for me Rich. You are a good friend to take that beating just for me.
I got XP when I lost but I had won a round. That is what is confusing me.
You must be right then, perhaps you receive some for winning a few rounds, even if you lose the actual game
Which would make more sense
7/8
I think I lost 5 time to @wild kiln and now with this RNG its 6th i know it after first round
can't you choose a weapon?
so is there only 7 t1 of each
2 games in a row you blindly counter ick my weapon by luck
so confirmed xp is for round or win/loss?
after that is hard to pivit
when I wanted to do dust revenant i cound not even do 1 dust
and only did one revenant
but you are so much stronger early we are no in the same league, my team is better for late Gauntlet
alright, I'm not doing this intentionally, bbtw
and I get lost in double its so hard to keep count for me, i try to do any stage 3
and just that fast roll revenant /empath
even if I can be almost functionnal I think my pc is not strong enough for that game
its easier to make t5 s2 in this game when you get late than t3s2
I would say yes as Rich got 0 XP when he didn't win a round.
I just played and won only the first round. I have the200% and the 600% and this is what I got:
2/8
Many thanks! Also, dumb question, is ascendant test net?
Im in game lol
Nope, it is on main.
Leaderboard is already on for ascendant?
gg mega, this gauntlet was as long as 
ggs yesss 😄
Oh mega is playing gauntlet, let me queue ascendant 🥲
propaply that was just a one-off 😅 adorious saved me 🙌
fren! gg! Back to gaunlet to for me 🤣
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Eyo I updated RattyData Gauntlet section
Gauntlet Companion shows mets builds and meta unit stats lookup player and build/save comps locally
Will make an Ascendant companion when api is availabel
lobby tracker has been updated
Glad we have some fresh energy in arena.. GL all
Foxspirit on 1566 elo, me on 1162.
Guaranteed 4 round loss for me. No experienced gained and a -11 elo for the trouble.
If this carries on I'll just stop playing ascendant. It's a waste of time for mid players in it's current state
as soon i'l got 2k i stop. and you can play again.
You shouldn't have to stop. We just shouldn't be matched together. And if we are I should only be losing like -1 elo not 11 😅
i got just +10. think at 2k it will be +5 -50. and not need play more
rm XD @jolly whale
so buggy
My bonded Illuvials just disapeared!
had to rebuy
lol this ascendant so fast XD
So many bugs in ascendant not even funny 😂
just 1 bug
Think I just sold the same Illuvial 3-4 times in one match..... kept reappearing
I had 4 S1 grillas on my bench without a stage 2
yes. visual bug. or not visual. when you got duplicate units. or they appear on opponent bench and you can sold them.
i gues in case of this bugs you sometimes can't even find S2 unit, if you opponent already have it.
I have like everything in lvl 30-40
fighting people with lvl 50+ they can set up whatever they want it feels like
also: why is there still the augment "solid start" in the game? thats stupid
Well if ascendant had been set up properly you'd be facing player of similar skill/collection quality.
Instead we constantly get paired up with those fighting for the top spot because they've farming us for elo. It's the quickest way to kill off a playerbase 🤦♂️
in other game with LB is search with mmr.
but if you can't find opponent in 1 min the search range becomes wider.
difference - in this game i talk about play 5000-7000 players+-.
and here how much? 50. 3-4 players at same time?
even now i search for game 8-10 min without mmr.
if you implement mmr search how much i'l wait? 1 hour to play 4min game?
mmr and level is 2 different things. One is skill and one is just how much time / money you invested
I am fine fighting people with higher mmr in general, it is just that it feels like I have no chance at all against those higher level illuvials, even though I have a collection
It's about balance, so of course the search would widen over time and if it put us together eventually then my elo should be protected against the inevitable defeat.
then why you complain about it?
i invest money/time as you say, and i want cashback.
let me farm this 50$ and you will never see me in game again, when i'l be in save.
tbh I will just stop and wait for the mmo.
Sadly (for me) it is just not fun currently.
i'l stop when this give +5. i think 1800-1900
It would feel a little better if you were still gaining experience for lost rounds. That's still progress even in defeat.
you have gauntlet vs bot's for free exp. and you never lose untill it's 4-7 bots every game.
But I dont want to play against bots all day just for exp 😄
then made like custom game with each other.
say in chat - i'm lvl 30 collection 1200 mmr. anyone around to play with me.
and there you go
Sure I can just grind gauntlet but is that really what you want? Surely you'd rather have a healthy ascendant playerbase to play against. Nobody wants 15+ mins queue time in a 1v1 mode 😅
i don't want play this game at all.
it's not interesting.
balance is poor.
new synergy's/mechanics poor.
play vs bots boring.
- all of this just my opinion. you can have different.
but i keep play, to lvl-up my deck, to get rewards. i still have small believe it will be tournaments and my deck will worth something.
search bug for me. or noone play?
I just posted a new feedback idea for Acendent go check it out and let me know what you think so we can try to fix it
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1479086729943318568
As you can see on the background, I had a Vermillia, Tii'ruo and Greater Grilla but they didn't get any xp for some reason even though I won with them
Yeah I share your feelings about the current state of arena. Odd because the game was in a much better state a few patches ago. Now evey patch seems to be heading in the wrong direction imo
Well I'm not gonna play with ya that's for sure 😅
I've had this too, also incorrect levels for illuvials displayed on that screen. I wonder if it's a UI bug and they're still getting the xp . It's just not showing it
Grilla battle!
This happens to me too, all the time.
Great, my one morning game is abyssal basin
facing @west musk , @viral marsh @wild kiln every single game is kind a 100% lost of time
give them the win automatically enven with way more synergy for one fight, you think you will 100% win and you end up loosing the fight it make these game 100% pointless
Losing streaks should result in fewer point deductions; the point losses are way too punishing
It's terrible that I earn 0 XP if I lose four rounds in a row
to be honest, it's not much different for me—if I get matched with Ratty or Fox, I’ll probably lose 17-18 points and get 0 XP
++the matchmaking system should also be revised...
Hii, to play the ascedent arena i Need have iluviuns or is free to play ?
free to play
Thanks
Wouldnt feel so extreme if there were a larger playerbase... there would be a better distribution of levels. I hear yah tho
gg @ashen mango
likewise... ascendant is a different beast
There will be no building any new player base the way it is right now, new player get destroyed no matter what and wont gain exp....... if ascendant would be a fair game and not base on stats but would still give exp to your own illuvials for gauntlet and than ascendant would be far less discouraging.... can you onboard new player with complete dopamine depreviation.
With all of the killers being in Ascendant I figured my best chance to level would be to hop in Gauntlet. Then I STILL find @safe valve FML 
totally agree... there needs to be a path that makes sense for all level of player. That should really be a priority... make the system make sense fore new players onward
on top of all the bugs
100%, if I a long time player with a mid level collection has to resort to trying to dodge players in order to level. I can only imagine how brutal it is for a newcomer
another issue with ascendant is... it is easily hacked
it is easy to get a buddy and just rank rank rank rank up and climb to the top
Right now yeah since the queue is predictable. Just another symptom of the playerbase being small
untill you meet me
have play meta. you can win lvl60 collection with units lvl40(nice balance in game). if you know what to do.
True but in theory that behaviour should be easy to spot and ban/remove eligibility for rewards?
Yup, right now I know that I would have to go against @west musk for a third time which would result in a third loss so I am not going to play. I don't even care about the leaderboard, I care about XP and don't want to waste my time now if I am not going to get much.
It makes it an ugly situation where you prefer finding people you can beat just to get XP and you try to avoid anyone better. Turning us all into predators becauase we paid money for the XP and we want to try to get our money worth.
It isn't fun and it sure isn't community building or newbie friendly. I miss OW.
i hope people will be baned if they abuse LB ascendant.
not tell this ola guy wintrade to someone. but play 24 games and lose most seems strange
ow.... 🙁
just play gauntlet. farm bots. take your exp.
Which is rough because as a Psion player. I want to level up the team that I enjoy playing and my Psions are my best team stat wise. But I lose, don't get any XP and just waste my time. Even if I were to play meta, my levels are so low that I likely would still lose and get no xp lol
strange choice of psion. they was not in meta for how long? 1-1.5 year.
water-umbra was except.
Cause I play for enjoyment. With the creatures I enjoy and love. Regardless of their competitive strength. I game like a gamer. Not a pro.
lose = not enjoy.
win = enjoy.
to win, have play meta builds.
xp whether win or lose seems logical and reasonable
Yeah, that is what I will be doing later.
I'm playing a lot of Psion lately precisely because they're not meta. Means they're uncontested most games and I normally end up 1st/2nd every game
it's so much option to lvl.
rent SirDexter, or me, who play all day to grind exp instead of yourself.
buy from market.
farm bots.
if there were a will
One more time for the people in the back.
buying, is, not, progression
I have a team, I don't need to rent or buy more.
I want to play the game. Not let someone do it for me.
Farming bots isn't fun. I want to play against players but I also want my time to not be completely wasted by getting no XP on losses.
is there just me , playing arena in new update have lag ?
lag just in arena combat
On Abyssal Basin there is yes
yes, too hard for playing
lucky 3rd place lol
I think what seems weird to me is Gauntlet took over from Leviathan and so in my brain that should be the game for the serious players. Ascendant should be more for your casual player who has only a few minutes to sit down and play a game.
It feels backwards right now.
I could pay someone to level my Illluvials @viral marsh and I have in order to get fuses done quickly but it doesn't feel the same for my own deck. I like the feeling of achievement to see that little 60 pop up.
What people are looking for is a natural state of progression while they play without the need to resort to such strategies.
What ever happened to these IZ gyms for gaining experience anyway
thanks for info btw, i thought is my setting or ,..
No worries! Yeah it's not just you. Even on lowest settings it happens
yes , thanks yeah
i recommend applying a battleboard skin if you have, so you play most of the times not on abyssal basin map.
Or, switch on potato mode... looks ugly but your fps shouldn't get influenced that much from abyssal basin default map
-3 for arena qqq
yes i have ,
its autp reset after update lol
thanks mate
looks like leaderboard just broke
I do question the decision to slap rewards on ascendent. The mode is clearly undercooked and offers a unpleasant experience to most people playing it
Why would anyone think this is a good idea 😅
nice news for me. after 40 games
might be just paid qa 🤔
coz some people say it's cool ascendant? like Scoriox, or Taren.
and they try put this mode on main screen.
Maybe, but they're shouting about this out on socials like it's something people should come and play. Imagine how rough an experience a new player would have in there 😆
ya 
Congrats @wild kiln @west musk 🤝
is it daily reset? or whats going on.
it is the power of bugs
Do they even play? I don't think I've ever seen those two in the top 100 of any leaderboard 😅
I'm not throwing shade just saying it as it is
Oooo put me higher pls
yes. it's why i'm wonder. how they tell about game if not play on it xD
is it will be announce what would be changing?
gues i can't find game anymore after this update...
Any word on illuvial experience gain on lost rounds peter?
Even if we just get 50% of what we would have got for winning that's at least something.
nothing changes really, just system in the background that manages searches of LB etc
this one as a player who mostly looses, I would appreciate haha, but its Nils domain
but 50% sounds a bit much tbh
Clash royale system is all about chests and gold and emeralds and crystals
every game you play you get something... even if you lose you advance a bit to a chest or somewhere on the battle pass... and if you complete the battle pass there is cycling small milestone to keep getting chests... plus weekly mini goals that reward emotes and more chests and other goodies. They promote lots of little dopamine hits in a constantly fresh stream.
Here, we are very literal.... play game, get xp or no get xp. so simple, little dopamine. The gind here is for leaderbaord reward, tournament, and occasional spicy game.
We used to have some mini dopamine with the fuel drops between 1st and 4th. Those were cool.
Mini dopamine hit systems are helpful for new players because it makes them feel like they are grinding towards something.
Gg Sota, nice deck
Thank you mate 🙂
It took me 18 months to build it
Those of us that have played clash royale have been bringing up their incentive structure for years. Nobody from the team seems to taken a bit of notice though 😅.
That game is a masterclass in rewarding players and keeping them engaged
disco battleboard
daily/weekly quest for exp you can use for any illuvials also can engage people play every day.
That would likely require dev time but that's a cool idea too
I think it was just something to try to get people to start playing it because everyone kept avoiding it. I think they should have also brought back gauntlet rewards too at least
There is gauntlet rewards no?
Rewards are currently only for Ascendant I believe
What? 😂 who’s in charge? I wanna speak to your manager
I think rewards are only for Acendent as far as I know
Well said. Shouldn’t be forced to play the same builds just to get xp
Sad to see how flawed the system is now after feeling really nice a few patches back.
I’ll just be playing Gauntlet until they fix Ascendant
How much will the ranked reward be? Will there be an announcement about that?
Was thinking that too
How much will the ranked reward be? Will there be an announcement about that?
Damn, they still have you guys on this April Fools build?
Came to check out the new patch but seems they didn't put it back right yet, still this silly stuff.
added a full composite win rate in the gauntlet companion as well as updated meta builds to track a rolling 3 week window
rattydata dot com/gantlet dot html
everything u need to know whats OP
Thank you and 100%. Like I get it if you are aiming to be a top level tournament player. Be meta all you want there sure. But, I'm just trying to play the game without a competitive focus lol
aegis? o.O never saww someone win with that
Are casual games counted aswell?
some are pre patch... goes back 3 weeks
ranked
I think there can exist both... again using clash royale, it is fun, can play casual, quick dopamine hits and stuff to do... but also competitive and ranked modes
yea saw the 3 wweek window thingy...
Crazy... might should pay more attention while playing 😄
prob a bunch from pre patch when everyone played aegis corner 😄
I left the ascendant queue and ended up in a match anyways @worn tree
Please send bug reports for these cases, it helps us keep track better
Doesn't this only apply to the ascendant?
Anyone around to test a custom match with Ownership? @outer surge @safe valve They pushed test to PROD Today. So lets test quickly?
@west plume
@scarlet spindle
@west musk
@sturdy robin
can in about 20 min
KBTKH3
rich, ıs there a spot?
Yes
ser
make sure you join through Gauntlet "Join Match"
something wierd is going on
3/8
@viral marsh
@shut yacht
What ya testing 👀
flexing your fancy skin, huh 🙃
in game bro
🙁
ok just gonna start to make sure your illuvials are good @safe valve unles anyone else coming ?
@mighty tulip
Already in😏
looks good
I'm happy to play it out if everyone else is
Oh you left 😅
it grant's exp... not sure that's supposed to do
what a tease
6/8 on ranked game if anyone is jumping in
does custom game give you xpP? xd
Did it actually though? or just say it?
it did
7/8
Ohhh you labeling bots 'bots' now!?! @zenith mortar
SirDxtrLeviathan
BOT 2
BOT 3
BOT 4
💀 Dead (4)
dzierski
#5
PapaDick
#6
Dr.Spoon
#7
GHamsterHYPE
I won with Aegis last night 
yes
I'm interested in the gauntlet
nothing known about gauntlet rewards
Ah ok 🙂
@wild kiln that was a gg
gg!! thx adorius... 
-22 +8. in roll slot machine. your opponent got 3-4 s2 turn 1-2 and you not. you will not got them.
and only 1 strat win in game.
10-15 min search time.
what can be better?
ascendant let's go.
That might be a personal problem
Just shut down, restarted. Same issue. Brand new Alienware nvidia 5700
might be worth checking the gpu driver if they are up to date
Haven’t had an issue before, everything up to date, no other game lagging. This is like 10 fps
I been thinking how much early rng is very impactful in asc
I’m at 3fps
for ascendant?
Yes
wow... im on a shitty gaming laptop and its about 70fps
Battle of the Psions @outer surge I like it 💪. GG
there's other sharks around... @sturdy robin @viral marsh @ashen mango XD
when your oponent come with 3 s2 turn 1. and 5 s2 ready turn 2. and you stay with poor 1-2 units. it's ussualy game for you.
so yes. 1 buy units from shop, and other click -2 gold
Furyz,Dexter, Spoon, etc 😄
@mellow star you are in game
winning in ascendant is 95% illuvials stats..... nothing else
even with much more sysnergy you will loose vs someone with better stats nothing to be done
when both player have around same stats/lvl - you come to basic game
The game works great according to these, it showed me that I was in line, but after 5 minutes I quit, I got tired of waiting...
@worn tree when are the devs gonna fix/remove Abyssal Basin? Love you guys, but it’s gotten to be a joke it’s not fixed yet 
i guess you a right you choose a weapon for dust/revenant and you can get a stage 2 of any of them you know you lost
there is no making a t3, tried over and over its just pure luck base
T5 are easier to make when match are tight
roll 30-40 gold(ascendant ofc) in late game try to get non contestet t4-t5 to S2 - can't find it.
Ascendant is not in a good state; on level 8-9-10 rolls, all the Illuvials are overlapping
it's seriously affecting the gaming experience
can t even make a t3s2
How can you even tell if you're selling the right Illuvial?
For example, let's say the overlapping Illuvials are Rota and Phyri. I try to sell Rota, but it shows that Phyri was sold instead...
and sometimes, an Illuvial even gets sold automatically from the board... what on earth is that?
but I die so insanly fast it would not matter
pls fix 🙏 🤦♂️ pfffffff
Yah I won’t play it till fixed tbh
Stick to gaunlet for now
yes.. frend I'm switching back to Gauntlet, dealing with this is just a headache
at least I can sit back and level up my lynx's xd
gauntlet 2/8
It's rare to be contested! That was a great battle! GGs
On an unrelated note. For The Sylen Treatment tournament. Abyssal Basin is banned. I don't care how many times we need to remake the game.
I started the game like this
this is the third free lost I have, but its the first time I get in the game before I lose it, HOW THE HELL ON HEARTH the game make me in Q when I didnt do it, @west musk i wanted to see the game history cause I had my dough about this matter
or is it that when you leave the Q, it looks like you leave it but you dont really leave it
ahhh... i hear yah
yah can't get match history on ascendent yet /:
gauntlet and pray for no Abyssal Basin 
i am enjoying the stacked XP tho
finally catching up to the players with lvl 60 decks
stats matters so much that even by skipping a full round and breaking one synergy, trying to loose one fight, i failed
i wanted to give him some exp
Do they stack now? It was not 2 days ago
i tried different things
geyyser never die 
I checked the damage dealt and saw it had hit for 12-13k
Yay we’re so lucky
Abysmal basin again
😄 😄 😄 😄 😄 D:
Devs must be listening 

I’m on the leaderboard for gauntlet, but game says I need to do 5 placements? Stuck at 2-3 fps after uninstalling reinstalling…anybody dealing with this?
I ran an auto drone run today after some funds finally transferred in…after the auto drone run, this was the state of the game
Guys... Have yall set your battleboard in the game?
I havent seen a single abyssal while playing ascendant. I am guessing that's why?
gg!! @edgy bough
Samsies
As fun as it could have been fren 
I'm using this battleboard
I think that’s the work around yes
Yes against you i didnt have the bug. We all know about it by now lol
Anyone want to donate a battle board 🎁
which one do you want? I have extras... if you don't have them, I'm happy to send them
but you probably have them already... 😆 if anyone is missing a battleboard, they can just message me
I don’t have any, would take either 🥺 I would offer you illuvials in return but you have them all 
I sent you a friend request, I don't expect anything in return, thx frend 
I’ll take anyone that stops this abyssal basin assuming I get out of 2-3 fps
Not one of my High TPI or lvl 60
Let’s go 1 for 1 so I can get my leg game build. Let me win a few rounds so we can make it to the league game obviously you’ve kicked my ass 10 times in a row so let’s make it interesting.
Your welcome
what you have 2 accounts
No look how much you went on the board because I refuse to quit gambling my elo
i face this guy right now he knows what yo ick to counter me
i won cause of time ...
just your build is stronger
if time would not ignore sheild, i think you had me
Same build every time wild
when I play the top 4 player 8 times in a row, I only go down
Is anyone getting the ascendant matches to count toward the placement matches?
no seems like. bug
I’m like 1500 points below idk why we got matched
i think so ya
Prob just a handfuul of us playing
Bond what do you do for work ?
don’t lie bro you ain’t got a job with all those level 60s
Let me win one so we can keep playing
Hire me 😄
For?
design/art/web design/ui
Can you make an app for android phone??
💪
LOVE being able to see the leaderboard while in que!
The solution will come with next update. It was a lighting issue.
arena leaderboard have bug right,?
Why does our Illuvium ownership selections for arena keep resetting? It’s getting really frustrating to have to go through and manually select our Illuvials slots for arena on what feels like a weekly basis now as the selections just disappear. Are devs aware this is happening?
Yes, it'll label you as not classified and the Placements will show up in the top right of the main menu. But your matches are counting and you will still show up on the leaderboards.
and if i leave que it will be bug which place me as ghost in game? what a trap
For me it reset just once so far, with the patch changing the synergy system.
If you have it reset regularly, i recommend to contact support.
(What could be possible is that it resets when you are manually deleting your saved files folder, but that's just a wwild guess.)
I’m not sure if it’s a UI bug but would be great to have it addressed in a future patch. Illuvium ownership UI/system feels a bit janky and could use some love. I’m not manually deleting saved file folders so not sure what could be causing it, hopefully just a UI bug
Best news thanks!
Hi everyone! How many games do you need to play to get on the leaderboard? Arena Ascendant. It used to be 15 per week. How many is it now?
I don't remember seeing a guideline for that. However, 15 a week is likely a good guideline to be safe. If anyone has an exact number please let us know 🙂
Previously, there was a condition of 15 games per week, and you could earn a reward on the leaderboard.
5 games
It tells you and displays it at the Acendent/Gantlet menu
27 games played!!
The match counter on the menu is currently bugged
GG, got lucky 🙂
Think that's the first time I've ever beaten you @ebon flume probably my last though 😅 GG
Nah you will, I could not get past your colossus
Those things too tanki.....GG
Hard to build though. Most games I'm lucky if I hit 2 Colossus. Stars aligned for me that game
Hey all can i get some help up voting this low effort feature request for Arena. Much appreciated - #1479332199730905170 message
@west plume I drugged your team lol
Yeah,GG
I was trying spore alone, it was not working, but toxic and spore seem pretty effective
it defintley worked,couldent dish out enough damage
I think we need a time lapse video on the MMO work happening.
@vivid stone come on i was trying 4 Mystic
lol
i hung in there by my teeth.
my positioning still sucks
no mercy this time 😌
I expect nothing less 😅
You got me!
@jolly whale Too Good GGs
Very tough match! Well played
I have no late game lol. Haven't played much 1 v 1. Learning on the fly... hahah
Its a bit chaotic.... Sorta just throw in everything you can
You blocked my Jotun and Ryplance so had to shift to phorus]
very clever
hahah once I saw Phorus I knew I was cooked Great Match
Why didn't we get the gauntlet reward back?
🙂
+and it would be nice if there was bots in ascendant too. The game time is short but the waiting is like a gauntlet game time
sure that same time as in gauntlet? here 10-11 min.
Sick...
3/8
1/2 ascendant
I would play more Ascendant... when crazy bugs gets fixed, if you get just a bit of xp from losses. and if there could be a mechanism to prevent you for meeting same opponent more than 2 times in a row. (or if you do, you still play... but the match will not award any point from winning or loosing, but still give you the xp)
It would be easier if there was bots here as well as in Gauntlet
if you don't find anyone for 2 minutes it will start with a bot
then it will be same as in gauntlet - who can play more games - get higher rank.
We need leagues so that everyone can play against equal opponents. 1200-1299, 1300-1399. Then it will make sense!
Now you've had 5 fights with an equal opponent, and you're getting caught by the top 10 and giving them points.
I need a player to support me so that I don't lose 500+ points.
You get experience for losing! Not much, but you do. If you win a couple of rounds in a fight.
Yes, that is correct.. maybe for this, I am thinking more about the new players that currently is likely to be loosing all the rounds, so they get -point on ranks, and 0XP.
It would be great with some sort of League system for sure, that really is the only answer to this. I feel really bad when meeting the same "new person" multiple times in a row.
It turns out that we have leagues. However, there is no current selection of players for them. Different levels of players enter the game! This scares many players. The table loses its meaning when platinum plays against silver!
bulls..t ascendant. full rng game
🙁
The one who gets the revenant first wins
Blackjack
i'm already stop play ascendant, coz search for game take to much time.
with league system i never find game.
not only revenants.
just S2 units. opponent build 3-4 units round1. then 4-5 units round 2 with some synergys. and you not? = lose round 4.
dust/revenant/predator. all this early synergy give fast win.
and you can't play any other. enchanter?aegis?mystic? - all garbage.
and you can't play around late(Tier-4-5) game units. coz you will die at round 4-5 even can't find 4-2.
old ascendant was x10 better that this.
only deck building need a bit rework probably.
but still - you can play mirror games, without this random press roll and can't get stage-2 unit, coz opponent get 5 copy of it at turn-1.
it was augment picks, where you can overplay your opponent.
and game not end in 4 rounds.
6/8
yo, I played like 8 games last 2 days and got 0/5 placement mathces, how to fix this?
how this can be changed? :
- rework units pull, so it will be 10-11 same units in shop, not 7-8 as now
- you can build team in team builder, and units which you put hear, will apear with 30-50-70% more often in shop
- ranger still piece of
sh..tsynergy, have up his scaling more - add mechanics of region so every game can be different
- add mechanic of augs/legendary, so you can pick it/vote with your opponent for them, like it old ascendant.
but for now - it's just bored and fast gauntlet 1-1.
and i'm not even talk about balance.
placement matches give you nothing. just don't pay attention to this.
but I wanna be on leaderboard
and you not on it? you sure?
ye aim sure
you play ranked games?
ofcourse, are there even non raked?
ooooo
there is ascendant mode
so I have to play this mode ranked?
just play what you need/whant
ye ai get it now, thx
so? what is this random? he got everything he need turn 1.
and i got free rolls?
turn 2 - 2 rev. 2 dust. 2 predator.
and what i have? kukka? xD
probably time to check this info? @regal hound or who i have to tag?
coz when your opponent buy 5-6 units, you will never get them in shop.
agree with all of this... It would help a lot with some sort of team builder, it could even be as simple as having an option to mark 5 Favorites in the planner that will then appear with a higher % (if you don't add any it will just appear normal... so its not adding complexity to a completely new player, in the actual game)
There are some suggestions in the feedback...
#1479086729943318568 message
I also think a few extra rounds could be a good idea, and if you then add some % to T0 to appear in round 1, it also means reducing the chance to get those crazy round 1 , with all T1,S2 combos. (although not impossible)
yes its so annoying.. but should be fixed soon..
this helps alot though.
Tanking the tank 💪, GG @prisma yarrow
lol
i wish i had the time to play my last turn, I dont understand why my ryplance die first... and I took out your synalph so quick by luck with the 2 octius, cause I was missing one for one for ophisto
for 1 sec when I saw your synalph die, I was sure of winning
Yeah I'll be honest I was expecting you to win that last round. That's why I saved my gold to go to level 10. Maybe your ryplance killed itself on the bulls thorns
i was suppose to have infinite healing with 5 water, stunami and the adorado.... i guess i should read about colossus, no clue what it does right now
Gauntlet 3/8
@west musk what you doing
sleeping
thatnks for pinging i dozed
queues are long
Turing to brag about this game, show a friend…3/4 battles were abyssal basin. Bad look
Bring back old ascendant no more rolling
@west musk ,I am so confused, I do get counter pick cuase of the bug or not, why some game it feels there is not even 6 total a a t1
yah someone said there are 12 units in pool but doesnt feel that way
yep...
Ascendant is essentially speed roll rev early or die
top 5 player are too strong for me no matter what
ouff
I almost won one first round vs you, that is the best I got, unless when you are not playing
seems like kanga grilla aapon s2 round one is strong
save gold... lucky to have andother s2 ready to go... roll 2 levels whenever poss
thats how i felt with fox... got him over n over
5/8
but tis ok... good practice
6/8
will have to face him in a tourney some day and better to learn
bruh i sold a unit on the bench and my fukin kanga disappeared from the boards
that was a skam @safe valve
ya happened to me in last game...
i upgraded to gyro, exalted grilla, chukoondi... but they didn't actually upgrade and are still stage 2 -.-
Im calling the dev police
can't really play more than 1 game a day... all the bugs annoy me more than the roll luck 😄
naah i'm good... gona take a powernap. 😄
oh tank. .thats a fight..
@prisma yarrow You're in a game mate
Tank is playing ascendant right now and in a gauntlet game…been there
oops
Intense finish
That bird was scary 😅
GG
Couldn’t take down that Blotto!
some much WALL , cant brr
Synalph was melting my back row
break through, good game fellas
Needed one adoris for mystic…rolled 40 coins
took the ophisto to win
nice GHamster
Was a great game
I think if you que for Ascendant, cant find a game and leave the que. It still puts you in the game when someone else joins the que
I believe we had news that holos are now stronger than normal illuvials, but I couldn't find it. Was that just a discussion and I misunderstood or is that a thing now?
There was a document on the new death match mode that gave bonus stats to holo and dark holo, but its not in any of the current game modes
when titanor is doing the same damage as synalph+ophisto i think it's time to buff those poor psions 😅
no wonder no one uses invoker 🤦😆
@vital citrus ur in game
1/2
Haha, tbf I was being lazy letting you stun my Psions that game. Not like I was going to win 😅
Might have had half a chance had I hit the 3 colossus. Didn't even come close that game though
I've had over 40k damage out of my ophisto. I wouldn't sleep on invoker if uncontested
does the rank snap shot happen tonight @safe valve
@mighty tulip one day buddy
Climbing rank has been fun but damn its been journey.
What snapshot?
For ascendant leaderboard?
That was usually thursdays
Are they not doing leaderboard rewards anymore?
Not for gauntlet at the moment.
What? is going on
Well i hope i get better rewards in gauntlet and get dont get shot down the leaderboard before the mmo comes out.
yayyy
Kieran: I've been way too quiet on X lately!
Also Kieran: does a minimal amount of posts at the same pace as previous month 🤣
whens next mmo test i need something to keep me hookeddddd
So now I know how you look like 🧐
Unknown
@safe valve OMG i wanted that gyro not even 1 t1s1 of it
@safe valve more like Dr.times up . I'm coming for ya 💪
Those L60 will only carry you for so long 😅
yea thats true tho 
even at looking at the bench from the other player side seen that you are no block from what you want you at 80% chance to get a t1 you can roll to death not getting it
i am so mad.... againg roll to death there is max 5 carablu in this game
I’d honestly watch this movie
dang spoon, cant even breath!!
I didnt even have a chance
thanks for the schooling!! next time!!
GG
How do we switch to potato mode after the abyssal basin match starts?
push escape to bring up settings screen... select graphics... potato mode on
@low comet you are in an acscendant game.🙂
You and your fire Atippo are taking a beating.
my game is not fully updated thats why hahaha
My Carablu thanks you for the XP points.😂
game done? rematch haha
Might not go so well for me this time.😂
im washed hahahaha
I thought you had me for awhile there....
I will beat you, it's just a matter of time 😏
Will have them all 60 soon enough ser🫡
GG, I should have spread out and repositioned at the end. Would have been a closer game then
Why does gauntlet have no rewards…?
Ascendant is terrible
there will be rewards for both modes
when mmo beta?
EOY is the expected date. But still subject to change ofc.
1/2
I meant closed beta
Or its date for closed?
still TBD
this is sad... ascendant right now, for the reality that we are in, have, most games are not worth playing
how hard would it be to create bots that all have lvl, 1, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 I would rather be playing vs bots of my ranking than playing sure wins and sure lost 90% of the time
ye. i'm also preffer play and farm bots, instead stay 15-20-30 mins in search and get +7points.
if we can get bot every 2 min, if noone in search. it's can be 10 games per hour = +70. can farm +700-1000 elo every day.
than they need to create bot that are all lvl 75, 80, 85 so you end up with challenge and it would not be possible to get infinite points
ascendant is unplayable much better if rewards is on gauntlet
kind of agree with that too
1/2
there little to none skill expression in ascendant hahahaha
i got killed by player with lvl 40-45 illuvials, who build 3 revenant+5 empath, when i try play something else.
do you think lvl80 can be better that 3 revenant buff with infinity shield and dmg scaling? xD
why you have build anything, if put grilla which not die before 1st cast give +40-120% dmg in fight and 24-100% shields for your team?
This is why I say revenant needs a timer. That is insane
Or gorilla clones shouldn't count
then templar and toxic need timer as well
Yes
I think all 3 need a rework
but even without them it's to much - empath shields, dmg scaling from other units die.
your last unit's will be with +80-150% dmg, and big shields.
shields also shouldn't stack.
Revenant should be mediocre and drop off hard late game. It's super cheap and can be online early. No cheap, early game composite should be outperforming things like behemoth and arcanite.
What are OP comps right now? Im desperate to win 🤣
you offer free elo. why i should reject it?
pffff not nice
we have that phenomenon not only with synrgies but also with illuvials...
I'd say build around what you have good stats and levels in. That might mean you're not coming 1st every game but consistently hitting top 3 is still solid progress. Especially if you're farming experience
Got it, doing that is much better than playing OP comps right?
I have every illuvial, but half of them are trash hahahaha
Confirmed
Illuvial diff 🤣
Im actually getting XP which is good
If you force this revenant nonsense you might perform well now. But when it's patched you might be left with a rubbish build.
You always want to be putting your experience in your best illuvials imo. Especially since there's no rewards rn.
uuhm...
10d mute spreading false info
Where was my ping!
I didn't see that 😅
Extra ban for notifs not being on
nice rewards middle month btw. when people play already 70-100 games.
It wasn't malicious I'm just ignorant clearly 😅
I'm used to Gauntlet, and I forgot that this mode ends quickly and I might not be able to get the team composition I want.
can we got unexpected tournaments as well? like announce and 2 hours after it it's start. so noone will be here/ready for it?
It started last week bro
Just cancel the rewards for ascendant and double if for gauntlet. Ascendant is unplayable rn. I'd argue it's actively hurting illuvium in it's current state. Why would the team pay to damage it's own brand
what if it's just paid qa?
Kieran come at random time>ask people play game. and who get higher place that he, won lambo i gues?
Then reward based on bugs found or something. Not player performance
probably get much more people playing it if you do it like that than if you say to people "test that buggy build and maybe get some rewards"
I guess 5 empath is way stronger than verdant, 4 nature and 4 empath
my sheild was not staking at all, vs him it was insane
placement matches not counting up?
Just did 2 matches, still 0/5. Already restarted
yea they are bugged.
But doesn't have an influence as far as i know
So just visual?
i think so yea
i have them too and didn't notice any negative effect yet
only negative effect I can think of is ascendant payout
GG
are you playing again?
gl to everyone who farm ascendant. gues your rating also being reseted.
rolling 10 gold at 50% chance of t1 not getting one for me
OMG
this is not 50% its 20%
i spend 20-30 gold for rolls at previous game to got ti-ru, when it was only 2 small one in lobby.
@primal flax gg wp balancing seems a bit off at the moment or? 😄
sometimes i got t1s3 faster that s2 other unit
1/2
lol i was hoping to beat @west musk, I had one of the worst RNG in a long time for gauntlet end up been 4th
abra strong
yessir
the entire game I cant make revenant was sure to beat him at first
one more for 3 rev and a fair fight
but no
where empath?
revenant's not work alone
I wanted to try mud but RNG didnt gave, I one point I wanted to get toxic be could not do it too rev toxic, should win over rev empath
beserker is pretty hard to make any t3s2 is insane luck to get even when you roll at 35%
toxic reduce basic AD. and not reduce shields. only healing
I kown I lost at round 2
Gg! The game is very different, more simple so strong synergies are possible unbalanced
today I lost almost 100 points in ascendant, and yes, that was rng, sorry
I notice that the rng counts a lot here.
for ranking..... I quit the game everything is close and I comeback in re-open the app after eating somehting and it gets me in a game that I am about to loose..... I probably lost 5 games like that, as far as I know if you dont start a game and you close the app you should not be in games when you open you app later again
ascendant currently is extremly buggy
Sometimes the Illuvials don’t combine, and for example there are 3 Stage 3 ones. Sometimes it sells the Illuvial from your board even when you didn’t sell it from there. Sometimes it deducts the gold twice.
etc.
4/8
6/8
1/2
3 times in a row roll 7 times to get nothing
4/8
this gamehas never been that bad as today fro RNG
Wow, abra
the luck is back, i want this vs @west musk, i also had behemoth
gg dmtrijj
geyyser 😱
I don't think I've ever seen an Appon fireworks show before! That was a first! Yes GG 😄
I think I held on to those aapons a little too long trying to get exhalted
My poor fighters were getting stun locked harder than a Scoriox with a Behemoth chip 
Keep it interesting for the viewers
games with you are just too much, my heart rate is always up
for me too!! you blazenite positioned it really well 
last ditch effort
again my opponent is not blocking the carablu i crash my game thinking it would be an easy t3s3
some times there is 7 of them sometimes thers is 5 .....
will be reset in gaultlet?
what is ally faint
I think I saw @worn tree say they would reset it, Thursday
Any time an ally dies
I hope they will do patch
Empath bonus needs a decent nerf, probably revenant and templar too!
is this normal evena after 10 games
How is possible get that lvl ??? Can any one explain me what happen???
You just need to farm tons of exp. Level 60 is not a hard level cap.
71 level with 0 omega 😭
I hope its visual bug and 5ms its 5op
Hey everyone,
We will only be resetting Gauntlet right before rewards for that mode begin. Ascendant will not be reset this time, since its rewards have already been active for a few days.
From now on, both modes will receive a leaderboard hard reset on the last Thursday of every month.
no it's not 😄
I know about it.... but 71lvl come on its a lot of exp if I understand new system leveling 61 lvl = EXP 1-60lvl and lvl 62 = (1-60lvl)x2 then 63lvl = (1-60lvl)x3 ... so lvl71 = (1-60lvl)x11 ! ???
Illuvials XP system explained: Arena XP formulas, level scaling (1–60), and Prestige levels (61–100) progression details.
that specific illuvial got used by one of the hardest grinding farmers of the old overworld. That's why it got such a massive amount of levels.
it's pinned in this chat in case you wana check it again on another day
Battle pass coming back?
Not in the short term
lmao this guy auto surrender hmm?
can team check his ascendant history
twice in a row
@worn tree
not only him. seems someone try play 2 accounts and got some rating
Yeah should come down pretty hard on accounts that abuse this!
This is why we cant have nice things!
Encountered another one just now
besides, the possibility of it being a new player isn't very realistic... It’s weird that they just gave a direct surrender, being so quickly sure that they couldn't beat Fox or Karl at first glance
probably they didnt get the opponent they intended and just quit
Surrendering a match which takes a few minutes anyway if you lose 4 rounds?
Seems like they don’t give a damn about being suspected 🤣
Wait until you see the way people are “buying” and “selling” “illuvials” with TPI of 11 for 1k each
Hey @worn tree, do we have a patch coming before rewards start for gauntlet?
Is the xp calculation correct? I just won a game where I added a Jokull for the last round but he did not get any xp despite me winning the round
much better if rewards for next week's ascendant would be put into gauntlet
1 more @viral marsh im learning hahahaha
Did you play a ghost team? Maybe that doesn't count I don't know
I tried it again this game and my Jokull did not get any xp again for the last round
units you put on last round of game not got exp.
it's here for long time, when just exp come to us.
don't know is it bug or not.
still your unit will got around 200-400exp if he stay only 1 round
ok, seems like a bug to me
yea last round swaps never show up.
Maybe last round doesn't even grant exp, idk.
It's a pretty old bug
If you check all those profiles non of them own any illuvials. They might be self farming accounts
yes. it's simple.
but who care.
half of LB play only 1 game.
did they got rewards?
They will probably get rewards if they played more than 5 games
need clear rules.
so i/enyone can read.
- how much games have to play
- rating decay still here or not
- did bot get banned
- can i play 2nd account or not
etc
1/2
gg wp @outer surge
GG WP 😄
I wonder why I am kind of scared of you now
he just got some weak Illuvials don't worry 😉
I just need to know when he goes to zzzzzzzzzzz now
feel free to join gauntlet in the meantime 🙂
