🎮〕illuvium-arena

[viral marsh]

i think stage-3 units overpowered.
when penguin/scorp/phosphorus/Umbre - solo win game, that not should be in auto-batler.
don't know how that work in TFT, but in autochess, it's rare when you build something stage-3.
you play around build and strat/higher lvl/more compositions

then probably you not in deal with them?

[cyan olive]

TFT 3 star wins games yes

[zenith mortar]

So they just figure the best will come out in tournaments

[primal flax]

nah, last tourmanet sl1ckz just got 3 pieces s3 that I was looking for, and I got 7th and 8th because of it lol

[zenith mortar]

if you cheat to get there you obviously wont win

[viral marsh]

but look here in every game you got 4-6 units stage 3. same in tft?

[cyan olive]

TFT the prove burden is a lot lower, as the skill level is far higher for the people who get to relevant stages and more players overall obv helps making it harder to pull this in like prelims.

[primal flax]

but this is the point, If you help a lot your friend in the tournament youre giving him chance to get your reward or spot

[cyan olive]

You can hit 1-3 costs multiples, in TFT a 4/5 cost is exodia.

[viral marsh]

in every game 2-3 players build 1-2 stage-3 tier-5. in some games 3-4 tier-5 stage-3. so it's less rare

[cyan olive]

Different unit pool number and 3 star much stronger on 4/5

[ashen mango]

A few public bans could go a long way and scare the other cheaters

[cyan olive]

What if you ban innocent people? How do you prove it?

[primal flax]

Do we have a public ToC to follow?

[cyan olive]

This topic legit a big issue in this genre.

[primal flax]

If not maybe do this is a good first step

[viral marsh]

we talk already 1 month about it's people with multiaccing in game. but after Whity noone get baned for that.
or we don't know/hear about it

[tropic forge]

If u record someone wintrading,that´s enough proof IMO.
Cheating and botting is harder tough...

will you take out your augs / bonding on a round where your guild mate will get 5th place to let him live and be top 4?

[cyan olive]

How do you prove it? Someone can just not be a retard about it and do like subtle stuff, like misplace a last second swap or something

[tropic forge]

no coincidence on that

[viral marsh]

but we don't have rules about win-trade

[ashen mango]

Not in HYPE

[cyan olive]

ToS prohibit any exploits etc, this obv exploit

But like not a proveable one if people have a brain.

I think you can’t apply the standards TFT does, you hit bunch of innocent people then.

[viral marsh]

ok. look. it's now bug in game, that you don't see how your opponents replace units. and untill you click other board>then back, you will not see that.
and sometimes you not see position changes as well at all
so - just put units on wrong position, and if someone say you win trade - you talk about think his position different

[cyan olive]

No like you as player will know it, but getting a 100% prove it close to impossible.
Even someone just being nervous and making a mistake, should they get banned for that?

[tropic forge]

not the case. I wasn´t playing the game, i entered the game via code because i´ve been doing it on certain accounts i know are shady...
The guy took out evasive veiling and 2 more augs from rhampite, took a rhampy and put him instead. He had Revenants 4 and then bonded to a random unit to lose revenant 4 and get revenant 3.

then after the round, rearranged everything as it was

[cyan olive]

I know many people in my esports career who I am 100% on they cheated, but not a single time one could 100% prove.

[tropic forge]

if someone can defend himself from this... cmon

[cyan olive]

And was harder in my games.

[viral marsh]

yes, but even so - he can say try to replace augs, got out of time etc

we all know what happend. but....

[tropic forge]

yeah i do get your point

[cyan olive]

This is like the noob way, can kinda argue yeah he wintraded here.

But guy could also say he didn’t want to kill the other dude, because other dude was holding units from the 3rd guy he had to beat for 1st.

[tropic forge]

they had the same comp LOL!

[viral marsh]

nice point

[tropic forge]

they both were going the same comp

[cyan olive]

Ok sure that guy not clever enough then, but you see how hard it is if people do Little Bit smarter stuff

[tropic forge]

yeah, there´s always an exit, not guilty until it´s proven, but in this case... trust me, it´s 100% evident

[cyan olive]

I trust you, like I said I trust most people on this, but the 100% is unbelievably hard vs smart people.

Part of why I am kinda cba playing this, seeing this topic makes my worries grow.

[ashen mango]

There are ways to detect smart chess cheaters with recent AI/algorithms so maybe we can build something similar for this game

[cyan olive]

Chess is easier as you kinda know what humans can do at peak skill and that some 30turn ahead move is just ai.

Here in tournament etc. Nerves are a thing as well, can just make mistakes.

I won a 75k$ tourney, 22500$ first 2 months ago, legit threw a game in best of 5 final, am I a wintrader now?

I failed to add up single digit numbers, no joke.

[ashen mango]

In Parallel?

[cyan olive]

Yeah

[ashen mango]

Maybe I should play this game 😂

[cyan olive]

Esport system is legit S-tier

But hard, mostly TCG/CCG pros

[ashen mango]

Ah I was a weak legend rank in Hearthstone so probably not for me

[primal flax]

Need a lot of time there In my opinion

[ashen mango]

Really curious to see if top Illuvium players will hold their grounds against TFT pros

[cyan olive]

I feel gauntlet needs infinite time, you think it isn’t much?
Honestly curious.

[cyan olive]

The actual TFT top won’t play I think, they make way more off streaming.

Or won’t spend much time at least.

[primal flax]

Yeah, That's why I am not playing parallel n mtg anymore lol

And now with Leviathan, jesus

Need 36hrs per day

[cyan olive]

So you think parallel needs infinite time?

[ashen mango]

Maybe not the top 10 but what about the 50th to 100th best players?

Surely they don't all make a lot of money

[primal flax]

not infinite, but some hours

5 hours/day I think It's enough

[cyan olive]

Idk how the new league pays actually, TFT mostly a streamer make money game, but streamers often also legit esport guys, like dishsoap won 2 worlds back to back.

[primal flax]

to compete at high lvl ofc

[cyan olive]

That’s a lot more than I spend, but I have infinite hours in cards games already.

[primal flax]

yeah that helps

[cyan olive]

I think a lot are just hobby-playing and get serious before events.

Like for monthly relevant one then chill play ladder

[primal flax]

Yes this is the positive thing in tcgs, you tryhard when qualify for big tournaments, after it just chill for some time

[cyan olive]

Kinda, but that is more a system setup thing.
TCG in irl usually have few big events as people have to Travvel etc., so can’t make too many.

Online kinda depends on how hard/relevant ladder is and how many weekend tournaments you have.

[twilit storm]

evry week from next week to the end of the year (excluding leviathan)

[cyan olive]

That is a lot

I did give this feedback to people in dms, but I think IlV very heavy on time needed.

[cyan olive]

Also weekly thing makes people who play more than 1 game feel like no chance.

[winter breach]

Idk how people manage to play so much honestly, I'm lucky to play 3 games a day and that's already 2-3 hours

[mighty tulip]

Who's up for some <@&1400508814910029907>

[zenith bough]

meeee

[south geyser]

So how exactly do people qualify to participate in the pro league tourneys? Are they just open to everyone? Is it just the top 16 on ladder?

[cursive echo]

I'm not defending anyone, but I'm making an observation.

[sinful hornet]

There's way too many problems with it, there's probably not 10 players in the whole game who can tell for sure that something not obvious is a wintrade, and then employees would have to take their word for it cuz they can't tell, and then you can just get a bunch of people to bandwagon and get anyone banned if u saw it worked the first time.

also can't prove that a wintrade that's "just" a misplay was a wintdrade so it's always gonna be doomed in that regard

Is the first IPL gonna have some sit and go qualifier or open signup?

[wicked hedge]

GG @dawn isle haha was a fun game, so close 😉

[dawn isle]

Can’t get any closer than 5 to 2!! Great game!!

I crashed late in the match but luckily I was able to reconnect right away

[naive mantle]

w0w

never seen a game so close lol

[rapid zenith]

Yeah, was a good one

[west plume]

was toight

[naive mantle]

dammit i got 3rd

[ashen mango]

Did you get a full lobby?

[mighty tulip]

Nah

[zenith bough]

Imagine being able to que up and get a full lobby every time. I will be dreaming of this tonight

[spring basin]

Guess how many untis that are able to attack the blazeknight and who

[arctic steppe]

1 😂

caradulox

[frank moon]

Remove this f2p mode and create 1 game mode

[viral marsh]

revenant got nerfed and now air in every game. prepare your red orb guys.

[zenith bough]

We just need players

Or better bots 😅

[fleet pumice]

This is why we shouldn’t promote an prize pool and just make a fun game worth playing for other cool in game items, 1/1 NFTs and alike. Big money brings in big cheating incentives and whilst it will make the game more robust long term, short term it’s a nightmare

One thing I don’t understand is how I battle with my own monsters

How is that possible if I don’t have the illuvials in the pool

[void dust]

I would implement a "tush push" to combat this corner crap. Meaning: If enemy Illuvial exists = yes and self unit is unable to attack any enemy unit = yes then self unit boosts damage of nearest teammate (that can attack) by x amount (probably 10-20%) - maybe even add a defensive boost to own unit.

I can tell that they have been working on eliminating some pathing issues that used to exist and were infuriating (it's still messy), but tackling this issue where half my team stands around doing nothing while getting wrecked by 1 carry in the corner - well, let's just say I'd like to see progress here. I think my idea may help, but maybe I'm missing something.

[south geyser]

I don't mind this one either, really. Either this, or the defensive stance if you can't access an enemy, or a combination of the two

[mighty tulip]

Que while playing OW would be a cool feature.

[south geyser]

Oh god my poor PC...

[void dust]

I was always curious why the game has finite pools of Illuvials. This destroys any chance of interesting "mirror" style matchups, it takes away all math and probability calculations at least from an exact number to what is just an educated guess and it bottlenecks S3s in a HIGHLY punitive fashion - so many players experience going out after rolling for multiple rounds and needing just one S1 to finish the S3.

I am unable to see why a finite pool is better when an infinite pool gives: Direct odds on rolling each Illuvial each round - statistical analysis and strategic probabilities would be a part of the game (similar to poker) instead of luck and intuition deciding games. It also removes the ability of players to help teammates by griefing the Illuvial pool that opponents are targeting. I believe there are other benefits, but I wanted to put this out there so others can help me see what I'm missing and why finite pools are beneficial.

[spring basin]

They could just fix the hitboxes so they’re the same and introduce a hex based grid system, which would solve the problems. It would also make it much easier to onboard TFT players. I still don’t get why this hasn’t been done yet eventho it's been talked about for so long.

[sinful hornet]

There's no more soft resets btw right?

[void dust]

I recommended the hex grid... oh maybe a year ago?

also on heads up can we not have the second player sit for 30s in the cage when both players just want to finish and get to the next game. lol

I mean... it's just so obvious at this point in most games who's gonna win

Stong

[spring basin]

Yeah I agree. This is something I've talked to Nil about so hopefully we get that next patch.

[spring basin]

Nope only hard resets monthly

[sinful hornet]

actual every 4 weeks?

[spring basin]

End of month I think. Not 100% sure tho

[void dust]

Another thing I would like is to differentiate the zone abilities somehow... like Crimson Waste (1) or make up a fun region within the zone that has -2 for each pvp loss and then a different region in crimson that takes your interest off the loser's health. small QoL ask.

[sinful hornet]

they did this except it's Crimson Waste 1- take 2 more dmg on loss, Crimson Waste 2- Deal 3 more dmg to people with more hp than u

[void dust]

oh good

[analog sandal]

played 9 matchs after the patch, the only one out of top 4 was air

im really that bad playing this comp? 😭

[sinful hornet]

idk why air would be better than revenants

[viral marsh]

ask "pro-players". they all spam air-inferno/phantom

[west plume]

"Pro Player has entered the Chat"

[arctic steppe]

I don’t get why you use this word in a pejorative way, I consider a “pro player” today someone who can make a living and pay their bills by playing games, which is the case for you too, isn’t it?

[sinful hornet]

if u haven't made at least 1 million$ from games you're not a pro player

[charred matrix]

if you don't pay your bills from gaming, or if you dont have your name on liquipedia.... you're not pro.

$1M mark is too hefty... there are players from big esports org that havent made that amount of cash yet 🤣

[severe marten]

It's combination of luck and skills playing arena gauntlet

[analog sandal]

So im just bad cuz my luck is on fire

[arctic steppe]

Don’t say that, my mate, when the hard reset comes, I’m counting on you to pass Fox for Rank #1. I’m putting all my chips on this

Cause I don’t know if I can play another 100 games every week , @charred matrix gonna give me an earful 😂

[severe marten]

I got many luck too but still bad playing it im always at the bottom i don't think i will ever recover in arena leaderboard

[arctic steppe]

Relax, the points will reset soon and you can always try again, there are a lot of new players coming into the game 💪

[arctic steppe]

Have you checked out the Meta comps tab on Rich’s site? It’s a great place to get some direction if you’re feeling lost
https://illuvilytics.web.app/tierlist/comps

[severe marten]

I will check it out thank you

[charred matrix]

straight to human resources office...

[viral marsh]

@sinful hornet come back to game, "best illuvium player" also will join race after hard reset i'm sure, probably other pro-players from tft also come.
so i'l not think 100 games/week will be enough for top-1

[charred matrix]

i told hollow last night we miss him 🙂

[arctic steppe]

If Hollow decides to grind hard, it’s game over for both of us, in the Quants grind events, he was a monster 😂

[south geyser]

Yeah, it really helps to have a few comps you're familiar with in your back pocket for when the weapons greif you or everyone in the lobby is hogging your dudes, lol

[sinful hornet]

if slickz does it's overer

[viral marsh]

if token fly to 100. it will be never over. i'l change my sleep time to 3 hours/day.

[sinful hornet]

if token's 100 im chilling at rank 5

[viral marsh]

only levi LB can hold me then.

but i think, if token will be 100 - fights for top-50 will be hot. and our player-base growth so fast, so even for top-10 we will have play 16hours/day

[charred matrix]

player base will grow... i'm 100% sure of that.... we're working to bring more and more players every day

which btw doesnt help me at all... can't stay within the top60 anymore nowadays 🤣

[analog sandal]

If token will be 100 ill train my dog to play during my sleep time

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-25362446

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-pool-chill-flamingo-gif-22586025

[analog sandal]

This is him after months farming ilv at 100

[mellow bolt]

7/8 leviathan

[fringe burrow]

leviathan?

[fluid raptor]

alt accounts are still not allowed right?

[tropic forge]

Not supposed to ... 👀

at least not to get rewards.

[fluid raptor]

I believe there are lots of alts around, and still getting rewards

[tropic forge]

100% reported by me in this chat, but , you know.

[fluid raptor]

how about a phone verification system @zenith mortar

[tropic forge]

they´ll just verify with fake phones/family phones etc.

this doesn´t solve that

[fluid raptor]

not alone it, but it does difference

[tropic forge]

We need to really care about eliminating them first... and it seems we don´t...

on We, i mean Illuvium Team.

been reporting this with names / accounts like for 2 months

but it seems it´s just useless

[fluid raptor]

firs of all, if it is not tight, even I can do that. they should know it is risky first

I don't think people here are feeling the fear to go for alts

I had 3-4 more alts and I could kill newbies and put them in first 100-50 or something

people don't think there is something stopping them atm

also I ask myself what is stopping me?

is there a good system to stop them guys?

it is smurf land atm....

[terse rampart]

what if u alt coz your other account has only 700 points hahahah

[low comet]

I think that’s fine as long as only one acc is eligible for rewards. (Correct me if im wrong) ahhaaha

[terse rampart]

problem is none of the accounts are eligible hahahah

[frozen tartan]

<@&1400508814910029907> 1/8

[bitter cypress]

Fk i wish... Im at work

[frozen tartan]

2/8

[frozen tartan]

3/8

<@&1400508814910029907> 5/8

[frozen tartan]

2 players + 6 bots.
I’m leaving.

[flint lodge]

Hard play without motivation without LB

I think we will see more players in levi than in gauntlet))

Without multi accounts

[worldly remnant]

y sometimes ur opponents is not eliminated even though they lost the round?

[twilit storm]

if it s a ghost and lose the real player is not eliminated

[warm isle]

It's the map

[twilit storm]

ah yeye

the region that keep you alive lol

[grave wagon]

Hello everyone, is there a proper tutorial for the actual illuvium arena? Things change quite quickly and i'm a bit lot since I came back

[nova cipher]

hi all. How can I register for the weekly IPL tournaments? Is there a specific place to sign up?

[twilit storm]

me wen eth reach 9k

I pull up to the house in a yellow Lamborghini
It's been a few months in PA (Huh), you haven't seen me
You lookin' good in that Gucci bikini (Aaah, ah-ooh)
38 carats, your ring lookin' freezy (Mmhm, yeah)

[frozen tartan]

<@&1400508814910029907> Hi. Anyone up for a game of Leviathan? If we get enough reactions to this message, we can all start searching at the same time so we can play without bots.

[gloomy mural]

@zenith mortar check dm sir

[frozen tartan]

<@&1400508814910029907> We’ve got a good number of reactions. Let’s all hit search at <t:1754840400:f>

[severe marten]

Can i still join?

[open ibex]

oh i missed that

[severe marten]

2/8 leviathan is there anyone playing?

[ebon aspen]

next Leviathan also ready

2 ready for LEV

[scarlet spindle]

You guys are just so lucky that my luck is 75% rotten 😛

[ebon aspen]

next game

with you Kaiot we have 3

[scarlet spindle]

im in the queue, showing 1/8 for me

[ebon aspen]

Leviathan 3/8 come

4/8 Lev

5/8

[ebon aspen]

2 more for Leviathan 6/8

[zenith bough]

the 2 last finish in 1 min

from the previous match

[ebon aspen]

started

[arctic steppe]

Rough day for us today, @viral marsh , I think I’m gonna go touch some grass in 1 top 5 I lost 4 first-place 😂

[winter breach]

tbh after long quitting and selling most of my best illuvials i stood up pretty good in leviathan

wasnt expected

[zenith bough]

go again?'

[winter breach]

i went ranked :/

[zenith bough]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[winter breach]

need to re-buy some key illuvials though, lev is definitely more fun

[void dust]

@viral marsh strong game - tough team to beat and you handled it np

[frozen tartan]

@zenith mortar Hi. Could you please create a Leviathan lobby?

[winter breach]

any plans to swap from ranked/introduce leviathan rank reward system ?

[frozen tartan]

@noble radish
Many people really want this.
Leviathan is more interesting than F2P.

[winter breach]

1000% agree

and tournaments are impossible to follow for the common folk like me. a little reward while i find time to sit & play is appreciated

[zenith mortar]

Sorry I’ve got my wifes baby shower today

Or ours

Idk

Both

[frozen tartan]

No problem, have a great time.

[cursive echo]

Leviathan will not be viable until we have a solution to up our illuvials

[frozen tartan]

It’s already proving to be more viable and interesting than F2P.
Even though P2W haters don’t like it, Leviathan has already shown a spike in activity in this channel and in tournaments.
But I don’t want to argue—let everyone keep their own opinion.

[cursive echo]

How do I level up my illuvials? It's an XP torture.

[frozen tartan]

There’s no torture at all.
Leviathan is a simulation of the real world.
Just silently throw money at the screen—people will love the extra side hustle.
Or tough it out, suffer, and level up yourself.

[cursive echo]

I agree to prioritize the leviathan mode but you have to make the leveling fun otherwise it's not viable

[native mauve]

The streets need a Leviathan leaderboard asap!

[frozen tartan]

Exactly

[native mauve]

Just give me 2 weeks to catch up a little bit more to Winnie please...im sure many are levelling up right now like me. I'm sure the team is working on it, the demand for leviathan is clear...hopefully some exp soon as well

[high snow]

I think many are waiting till you can level with another method. We need to get exp in gauntlet or in another way first, so people can prepare for Leviathan. A lot of people dislike Overworld grind

[native mauve]

Yeah Aaron said they were working on it and we should here something soon

Hear

[viral marsh]

just hire someone to lvl your illuvials instead of you. ez

[high snow]

therefore you would need someone you really trust

[viral marsh]

you can take a deposit. or use your 2nd account on which a person will work. there are many ways. there would be a desire

[cursive echo]

what a great idea to play 7 earth

[karmic token]

Goddd, every match must have some problems or bugs, why the two players, in 6 or 7 matches, don't fight each other at all?🤦‍♂️ And this map is stupid, it makes no sense, it doesn't change the gameplay at all and that's the point of maps.

[high snow]

Even if this would be possible, it is not a good way for new players

[viral marsh]

you have market/play OW as other options.

[frank moon]

@zenith mortar at what time will the IPL pro league be?

[mellow bolt]

Leviathan??

[west plume]

starts on August 16

[charred matrix]

@tropic forge had a bad start... otherwise... 🤣

[tropic forge]

from 1HP 7th to 3rd place is already a Pro move

i guess i can´t beat Magma Guy )X

[charred matrix]

shinri is tft pro, u can check his profile on liquipedia

[mellow bolt]

Tell me this game isn’t luck. I played someone that had one magma alluvial, and three magma augments.

For magma burned my team alive

Leviathan?

[severe marten]

how do I lend my illuvials to my friend or guild longer than 30 days?

Using polemos

[worldly jolt]

This person you pinged is not even on the Polemos discord server.

[severe marten]

I see Thanks

[worldly jolt]

You can find it through @lean ivy ‘s bio

[frank moon]

Hour?

[safe valve]

tba
Details should drop soon

[high snow]

hey @worn tree Sry, to bother you, but I just want to double check as I am approaching 2k elo. So right now you need to play 15 games if you are above 2k elo at the time of the snaphot. But you do not need any amount of games below 2k elo? And it does not matter if you are above or below 2k during the week. The rating is only relevant at the time of the snapshot. Correct?

[worn tree]

Exactly, you can be all the week under 2K, but if at the last minute before the snapshot you get north of 2K elo, you enter the requirement range, where you will need to have played 15 games that week to be eligible for rewards.

[high snow]

ok thanks 👍

[lilac stag]

The first IPL tournament is already this week, when will all the information about this tournament be known? How is the qualification for this tournament going? Will there be sit and go? How many slots from there and how many slots will be selected in another way?

[safe valve]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[sinful hornet]

is this correct or was this meant to be head for arena?

[worn tree]

Raghu and I are working together with the production of the MMO. But I am also producing Arena.

[valid stirrup]

@worn tree do you think the game it will be finish for launch ? on 16 ?

[worn tree]

What game and what 16th?

[valid stirrup]

1 Illuvium Pro League (IPL) 2025 august 16

[worn tree]

You mean if the game will be finished in 5 days?

A game is never truly “finished". We have multiple updates and features in the pipeline to keep enhancing Gauntlet and Arena as a whole, and the team is actively working on them.

That said, we’re happy with the current state of the game, we believe it’s in good shape for the first IPL.

[valid stirrup]

Just a small thing — if we can solve it, it’s about disconnections. If a streamer starts streaming and gets disconnected from the game, do you think it’s okay for this to still be visible on the stream?

In Stage 2 of Illuvium during the draft round, if you already have a full bench, you don’t receive the Illuvium for your team — it gets taken from the draft round instead

if you are happy 🙂 it is ok

i wish you understand me i try to help like a player perspectiv

[ashen mango]

Does it include implementing back the auto-dropping of illuvials that we're dragging when time runs out?
It was a good quality of life improvement

[worn tree]

That's already implemented

If you have 5/6 slots and you are hovering a unit on the board and time expires in prep phase, that unit is deployed on the board.

[ashen mango]

I mean when the board is full and you are repositioning your unit
Before the unit would be dropped where our cursor is at the moment when time runs out, now it's just placed back at its initial position

[worn tree]

Ah, understood. Yeah we can do that. Not sure when but we'll do it.

[fallen vortex]

This might seem kind of crazy, but despite composite chips having tailoring, do synergy chips not?

@worn tree I feel like synergy chips are always insanely random

(from synergy crates)

[worn tree]

Both primary and composite imprints are tailored 👍🏻

[fallen vortex]

hmmmm I mean i had 5 empath on the board and practically nothing else, and it didnt give me an empath synergy

Maybe I was just unlucky but I feel the weights should be far more intense

[frank moon]

@worn tree in gauntlet ranked queue for 10 min, still 1/8, what's going on?

[worn tree]

They are already very intense

[fallen vortex]

Well the max threshold for every other synergy is achievable. 10 Empath is near impossible without 2 chips

[worn tree]

Try disconnecting and trying again

[frank moon]

did that, also rebooted, still 1/8

[sinful hornet]

because u have natures as well not just classes, on composites u have way less natures

[fallen vortex]

Nature didn't even appear. It was like earth and fighter and stuff

And air

And I had 2 air/earth

And 1 fighter

[viral marsh]

same for me with different build.
when i play rog: have 6 rog on tabel+2 empath.
and i got bulwark/fighter/water.

[sinful hornet]

by natures i mean fire earth air those 5

but u can guarantee it just leave 1 unit on board

[viral marsh]

i play earth - i got anything but not earth. so i agree - tailoring work strange for basic augs

[south glacier]

Pls tell me one feature is changing the Illuvial selection for Leviathan. Because the auto selection of highest level Illuvials is a real pain and will be a big hurdle for new players. If you really want players to experience the whole Illuvium ecosystem then the transition to Leviathan should be seamless and easy

[worn tree]

Indeed it is

[high snow]

Just as an additional Feedback. The crates need to be more visual distinct from each other. Right now I often can not tell if I got a synergy or composite crate. If you click on it to check the name you basically open it immediately. Given the current tailoring system, we need a better visual distinction or a text when just hovering over it

[worn tree]

We are working on it yes, make them clearly distinguishable among the 4 types:

• Forge Augment
• Legendary Augment
• Primary Synergy
• Composite Synergy

[frank moon]

@worn tree reinstalled the entire game but no luck, still 1/8

[worn tree]

Please refer to CS for the matter. Hopefully Peter can help you with this. Apologies for the inconvenience.

[fallen vortex]

Yes this is annoying asf. It's killing me

[calm raven]

Do we have any info about how to qualify for the first IPL tournament?

[sinful hornet]

@worn tree but how is this carousel ok

[sinful hornet]

but this is such terrible game design

[cursive echo]

I admit it's not pretty.

[frozen tartan]

<@&1400508814910029907> Hi. Anyone up for a game of Leviathan? If we get enough reactions to this message, we can all start searching at the same time so we can play without bots.

[fringe zephyr]

gogo

[frozen tartan]

We need at least 6 players. I don’t want to play with bots

[zenith bough]

We need to start within 20 minutes for me to join (otherwise I am unsure I can finish)

[fallen vortex]

@bronze spire got crazy good elo from that at least

made up for a few losses

how do people manage all the early stage 3s so easily anyways

kinda wild how arcanite frost behemoth jotun got made to look like a damn panda

[bronze spire]

haha how much?

[fallen vortex]

+14

[bronze spire]

wow nice

[fallen vortex]

cause i a noob

[bronze spire]

wonder how much for a 1st

[fallen vortex]

like 300 probs

😛

[bronze spire]

did you have combat rythm? i think that may have been the difference in you and anubis

[fallen vortex]

whats that?

the drone augment

dont think so

i didnt get any omnivamp during the game

defs felt it

[bronze spire]

ad and omni on kill yea

[frozen tartan]

<@&1400508814910029907> No problem.
Let’s start the search at <t:1754919000:f>
But don’t start early so we don’t get bots added.

[fleet pumice]

Guys I want to give you all a decent challenge but struggling massively on some topics. Like what gets selected as a general pool to choose from, are they ranked by stats or all generic? What key aspects should I look out for with augments ect

[fallen vortex]

someone send him the google sheet

[frozen tartan]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_g_zQRvHB45MxPhCdUJ_bh9acK2A2hfYhJ79RslFsm0/edit?gid=1085157877#gid=1085157877

[fallen vortex]

@fleet pumice

[fallen vortex]

ty mate ❤️

[zenith bough]

https://tenor.com/view/lfg-gif-24650070

[zenith bough]

we are queing

[frozen tartan]

<@&1400508814910029907> 4/8

5/8

6/8

[zenith bough]

7/8

8/8

full lobby with real people

niiiice

GJ @frozen tartan

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/вкусно-gif-5611023417218049770

[warm isle]

Put bot secretly

[lilac stag]

can someone explain pls, what does it means "500% of health regen" how can i check how many heath regen has my unit? is this "500% of health regen as energy damage" scaling by this items and augments?

I looked through all the items, synergies and augments, there is no such wording anywhere, so this means that these 6/8/10 HP regen that blooms give is all that can increase the damage from 4 blooms?

[turbid osprey]

Life storm i think is health regen

I wonder if the drone augment of X% max health per Y s would count here

[lilac stag]

natures also not giving heath regen, they are giving heal so its not the same right?

[turbid osprey]

yea thats missing health its different

[zenith bough]

GG

[lime cloak]

GG
(got to get back to grinding more XP 😁 )

[frozen tartan]

<@&1400508814910029907> Hey guys, anyone up for some more practice? If we get 6+ emojis, we can gather again.

[viral marsh]

what wrong with it?
i'd love play this region, where early lose streak give a bit advantage.
as well i'm think which weapon better pick in this region, etc.
it's fun region, better that some others

[sinful hornet]

the random 1 berserker with all components

and then the 1 steam

[frozen tartan]

@zenith mortar Hi! Could I please ask you to create a tournament lobby? I’d like to gather a group of players for practice without any bots.

[viral marsh]

oh. this random. sometimes you can got something you have already in team.
but sometimes it's usseles synergy.
your opponents also have play around it.
1 game it was something like vanguard on carusel, and it was person on win-streak with 3 vanguards, but noone care pick that, to not give him 4th vang.

[zenith mortar]

yes

7WQKW6

[frozen tartan]

<@&1400508814910029907>

Leviathan tournament lobby. 1/8
Playing without bots.

7WQKW6

[frozen tartan]

Thank you

[lilac stag]

Since we're talking about regions, isn't it better not to allow regions with random imprints and composites in tournaments?
this brings a huge imbalance to the game and breaks the principle (at the start, everyone is on equal terms)
if there was a balance between synergies in the game, this region would be good, but as long as I get a composite on Spore, and my opponents get Revenants and Frosts, I vote to remove this region from competitive tournaments

[valid stirrup]

when you have more

i will play to

[frozen tartan]

2/8

[spring basin]

Yeah, I do agree! Especially that one with emblems 2-1 that one is absolutely terrible. I’m writing a thread about this, and I’ll post it today if I have time to finish it.

[lilac stag]

or at least make it so that all 8 players in the lobby get the same imprints/composites, yes, this will lead to contests and many will ignore their imprint and not collect, for example, bulwarks into colossuses, because the lobby will not allow this, but at least everyone will be on equal terms

[viral marsh]

i got tsunamy today, and then no water weapon in choice. my opponent got aegis/inferno/something else. i just play random strat withot tsunamy, and got top-4, was happy with that

or it can be like in asscendant, when you have vote to pick augments.
you get 8 synergys at start of game, and 8 votes, you can put all in for 1, or try pick 3-4 other. same for every person in lobby

[frozen tartan]

<@&1400508814910029907> Leviathan tournament lobby. 2/8
Playing without bots.

Join the lobby with the code:
7WQKW6

[zenith mortar]

you have to tell me when to start

i can start with 7 or whatever

[frozen tartan]

Yes, I’ll message you, thanks!

[frozen tartan]

3/8

[tawny dove]

When is next leaderboard reset?

[valid stirrup]

16

i think so

[viral marsh]

not think so. at the end of month? we have 1 more week

#📣〕announcements message

august 29. next reset

[frozen tartan]

<@&1400508814910029907>
Leviathan tournament lobby. 3/8
Playing without bots.

Join the lobby with the code:
7WQKW6

I’ll send the winner an Illuvitar from the screenshot (just send me the winner’s address after the game).

[zenith mortar]

Ill send the winner a wave 3 d1sk

[frozen tartan]

The stakes are rising.

[viral marsh]

5/8 leviathan. let's go guys. ez 5$

[raven obsidian]

do you only earn interest up to 70 gold? for example if i hold 70 gold going into next round i gain 7 extra? (1 for every 10 gold)

[valid stirrup]

5/8

[valid stirrup]

yes

[raven obsidian]

70 is max, so no interest after that?

[valid stirrup]

yes

[raven obsidian]

ty sir

[valid stirrup]

no interest after that

always 😄

5/8

Leviathan

<@&1400508814910029907>
Leviathan tournament lobby. 3/8
Playing without bots.

Join the lobby with the code:
7WQKW6

[frozen tartan]

5/8*

[valid stirrup]

<@&1400508814910029907>
Leviathan tournament lobby. 6/8
Playing without bots.

Join the lobby with the code:
7WQKW6

[mighty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/sup-skate-gif-14326896

[frozen tartan]

@zenith mortar Let's go King !

🙂

[mighty tulip]

Don't even know why I joined, I'm going to get stomped by these guys 😅

[valid stirrup]

@zenith mortar

let`s do itt

8/8

[fringe zephyr]

gogogo

[valid stirrup]

go go go

@zenith mortar press the button

please

[mighty tulip]

Nice Ranger skin 😏

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/howyy-gif-14677769772756874928

[viral marsh]

everyone here? should we doing ready check?

[valid stirrup]

let`s goo

ready check

the only one it is reach how need to press

[mighty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/bingo-tarantino-thats-a-bingo-gif-16052246

[viral marsh]

who the host? click button

[frozen tartan]

@zenith mortar Start our match please

[valid stirrup]

Rich

[violet summit]

Hey @zenith mortar ! Details for the upcoming tournament dropping today?

[zenith mortar]

yes

[violet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-happy-dog-dog-happiest-dog-super-happy-gif-17885812

[frozen tartan]

Thanks for the game, guys.

[valid stirrup]

@frozen tartan like that i feel when you beat me

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/howyy-gif-14677769772756874928

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/no-kick-ouch-gif-12726959

More like this for me

[cursive echo]

It takes time to play Gauntlet, it's exhausting. I want to congratulate the players who have played 100+ games.

[frank moon]

If its either that or KFC nightshifts, what would you pick?

[obtuse summit]

Is there any where i can see how all clases and infinity pair. say whats need to be for a enchanter?

[bitter cypress]

How do you create a lobby

[dark vine]

you can even see that ingame by hovering over "affinity" or "class" on the left. For enchanter you need psion and empath

[obtuse summit]

Wow appreciate it!

[frozen tartan]

Rich can do that, not me.

[bitter cypress]

Damn rich

Boi

Its because he dickkingz

[fleet pumice]

this game is solid

[zenith mortar]

im here now

[zenith mortar]

the one and only

[frozen tartan]

Do you want to play Leviathan?

[frozen tartan]

If yes, then without me. I’m feeling too lazy right now.

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/no-excuses-wedding-crashers-play-like-a-champion-owen-wilson-gif-9436332

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/howyy-gif-14677769772756874928

[zenith mortar]

i cant right now no

[west plume]

Baby shower?

Or finalizing the Tournment info👀

[zenith mortar]

that was yesterday

and yes almost done

[west plume]

Baby showers Can last for days, or so I heard

Have only seen it in movies, not sure how it works

[safe valve]

that sounds like a weird taste for movies 😂

[west plume]

Have two daughters, have seen them all😃

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-fair-enough-gif-26167449

in reality it's probably more like
Daugthers wana watch texas chainsaw massacre, but daddy lars is more like "naah, lets look frozen again... or that thing with the baby shower"

[west plume]

Kids love to watch what they are not allowed to watch😆
Frozen was great btw

[summer frigate]

How many games we need to play to qualify for the rewards?

[void dust]

lolbad

[ember sail]

when will the experience that the Iluvias receive in the arena increase, or an alternative method to increase the level of the Iluvias faster

[mellow bolt]

Leviathan???

[languid sparrow]

OW with Flint cap might be the fastest way! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-1BpOyGozs

How Points Work
1- True the event of illuvium Pro League IPL,
2- Do we know how the points in **RLP **will be calulated ?
RLP is earned through daily ranked gameplay (leaderboard resets monthly)

[fluid mantle]

What do I have to do to participate in the tournament on the 18th?

[mellow bolt]

Leviathan??

1/8

2/8

3/8

Backing out

[low comet]

@ivory saddle our game shut down?

[ivory saddle]

@low comet Oh thank god

I thought it was only me

[ivory saddle]

Yeah saw it in the site that the game started and I can't even reconnect

got me nervous

[gilded idol]

Top 8 😭😭

[low comet]

yah mini heart attack hahahah

[ivory saddle]

So whats gonna happen there haha

[zenith bough]

How can 2 singe same stats same level have different stats?

the one with most XP, have lowest health

[frank moon]

Might want to check on OW. The illuvidex has been messing up things since it was launched. Atleast we have one...I remember playing beyond while the dex was ded for 6 months or so

[zenith bough]

Can't check OW when you looking to buy something. Seems strange, @worn tree Do you know if the Illuvidex is bugged in showing different stats?

[gloomy mural]

as I know same illuvials have different stats

its normal

[mighty tulip]

Is there a leaderboard reset before the tournament this weekend?

[bronze spire]

@zenith mortar @worn tree

[worn tree]

Will get an answer for this soon.

[worn tree]

No leaderboard reset is scheduled before the tournament.

[viral marsh]

"After Sit & Go, we will have a Global Ranked Leaderboard Snapshot for the Top 8 to participate in the Final." - that mean top-8 not need play sit and go?

[bronze spire]

so end of sit and go top 8 auto qualify and wont count for the sit n go/

[sinful hornet]

so if someone in top 8 plays sit and go and is in top 24 does 9th qualify?

[worn tree]

It actually works the other way around.

If someone in the top 8 of the leaderboard has already qualified for the main event through the top 24 in the Sit & Go rankings, their leaderboard spot doesn’t pass down to 9th place. Instead, the extra qualification spot goes further down the Sit & Go rankings. For example, to 25th place in the Sit&Go, not further down the leaderboard.

[high snow]

Will the there always be qualification sessions on Fridays before the tournaments on Saturday? When sit and go starts I will still be at work 😭 And I guess a lot of people will have this problem

[dark vine]

Already thought about that problem too. My suggestion:

Have two sit and goes at different times. Don't show the overall standings in between. Combine both rankings, delete the worse rating from players who played both. Top 24 of the combined ranking advance. Sure, if you can manage both events you are at an advantage, but everybody would at least have a chance.

Edit: Or we could just say that the first event/rating for players who played in two events counts to delete that advantage

[vivid stirrup]

Feedback is key — this is not a “written in stone” schedule, but rather something designed to cater to the largest percentage of our player base.

With the “US Morning + EU Afternoon” timeslot intended for that purpose, I agree that it makes more sense to host two-day tournaments on Saturday and Sunday instead of Friday and Saturday for example. We will review this.

Just be aware: there will always be someone left out. Our priority is ensuring that no major player base is excluded.

[tropic forge]

My suggestion, feels bad to have only 8 players rewarded from every IPL.
Polemos´s tournament proved that there will be more players interested if we share prizes a little more. Prizes for 16 players would be better IMO.
Also , 17:00 UTC is a super complex time for some of us, i do like the idea of making 2 sit n goes.

[dark vine]

agree on the price distribution. 17 UTC is litteraly perfect for me, so, please keep that 😄

[vivid stirrup]

Larger prize pools will be distributed more thinly across more players.

There is an argument to be made that $3000 for top 16 players would still be thick enough.

[vivid stirrup]

17:00 UTC is a super complex time for some of us, i do like the idea of making 2 sit n goes.

When saying "us" who are you refering to? So we have more concrete info about your timezone if you don't mind.

[ashen mango]

0 game below 2k rating
15 games above 2k rating

[high snow]

17:00 UTC is also not optimal for central EU in my opinion. Sit and go starts at 15:00 there and most people work at least till 16:00/17:00 and till they are home half the time is over. And with 2 hours left you will not be able to play enough games to catch up

[tropic forge]

Yeah, if we give 500 for first place and share accordingly to the other places, i´m pretty sure most people will participate for having a chance.
With us i mean, i´m on Cuba UTC-4 (east USA), it´s 3PM for me, i do work on Saturdays from 10am to 5pm, also my internet is trash at that time LOL.
Anyway, i´ll just stick if there´s no other choice 🤣 , fuck work.

[dark vine]

am I the confused?

[high snow]

Oh wait, I guess you are right. I read it differently

@vivid stirrup sry the time seems good, I just misread something. People in EU will be able to manage that

[vivid stirrup]

It still looks bad for working people in the US which is a major audience though.

[high snow]

Is there a reason why it is on Friday + Saturday and not Saturday + Sunday?

[bronze spire]

yea i agree top 16 super reasonable

[tropic forge]

Please consider this distribution to engage more players, those 9th to 16th players will really feel happy even if they miss top 8 ,mostly if is their first time winning something.

1st-500
2nd-450
3rd -350
4th-300
5th-250
6th-200
7th-170
8th-140
9th to 16th - 80 each (total 640)

For a total of 3000.

[bronze spire]

leviathon sundays?

[high snow]

oh, is this planned?

[bronze spire]

they said throughout the seaon yea

stand alone not towards worlds

[high snow]

Then I need to quit private life 😄

[bronze spire]

actually thinking about it probs wouldnt be same weekends

[vivid stirrup]

I assume there’s good reason for it — such as weighing the pros and cons between catering to Friday availability for US workers versus accommodating those who can’t play on Sundays and prefer to spend that time with family, for example. Or perhaps keeping Sunday open for other things.

We will review and adjust if needed. Please keep the feedback coming.

[dark vine]

you could still add a 2nd sng at Saturday 1 am utc and combine the results and let the top 24 of the combined advance- even if that makes everything harder for me, we would like to see the best players during ipl, right?

[ashen mango]

Does it mean that the sit&go winners won't be able to become finalist and only the top 8 leaderboard will or will the top 8 leaderboard simply be qualified for the main event?

[tropic forge]

@ashen mango here.

[dark vine]

Agree that it isn't phrased in the best way, but since we have 32 in the following round I would assume they are just party of the 2nd tournament day as the other 24

[ashen mango]

I don't think that it answers the question, they talked about the case where the top 8 would play sit & go

[ashen mango]

Yeah it makes sense, thanks

[tropic forge]

well, this 🤣 . Also is still confusing. I guess best way is to screenshot first (take those 8 to the final) and sitngo the rest.

[viral marsh]

do i need play on friday or not. can someone tell to me?

[dark vine]

you should be qualified either way - unless you somehow lose enough rating to be placed 9th....

[viral marsh]

so, i don't have to play friday? coz i'l be away from home, and have to figure - do i need change my plans or not

[viral marsh]

impossible lose 1k rating

[dark vine]

yeah, I would say you can take your day off without any worries

[hot badge]

There are no more weekly rewards? 🤔
Will they stop when IPL season start?

[bronze spire]

where did you see this? pretty sure no change to weekly rewards

[sinful hornet]

they were talking about fuel instead of ILV for ladder like 2 months ago no?

[dull wind]

yeah but that didn't go forward. Rewards will simply be gated by the battle pass.

[native mauve]

The Friday night/Saturday tourney eu time suits me perfect. Many illuvium nights have been on Fridays and tourneys on Saturdays so it makes sense they stick with that

But a rotation to suit different time zones in different tournaments also seems reasonable

[frozen tartan]

Weekly Leviathan tournaments are needed.

@noble radish Have a good day!

Qualification for IPL on Fridays.
IPL tournament on Saturdays.

There are still plenty of other days in the week: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday.

Please choose one specific day for a weekly Leviathan tournament.

[hot badge]

I didnt.
Im just asking, because usually things change when a new season start and I just want to clear things up before i grind for no reason or something.

[hot badge]

Hows that going to work?

[native mauve]

Yup please put Leviathan on the Sunday and get us a leaderboard) the streets are fiending for more Leviathan

[dull wind]

you only get paid the weekly leaderboard rewards if you have the battle pass active.

[frozen tartan]

@native mauve @noble radish
I don’t mind which day of the week it is. The main thing is that it’s consistent and unchanging. I will adjust my life around that tournament.

Stability is important.

You could hold a poll in Discord. Let the community choose the most convenient day themselves. It’s impossible to pick a perfect day that works for 100% of the community, so let the majority decide.

[hot badge]

Ok.
And how is the battle pass going to work and when it start?

[frozen tartan]

A Leviathan leaderboard is not planned in the near future.
It’s clearly stated that the entire focus is on F2P.

#1404473332065239233 message

[dull wind]

you purchase the quarterly battle pass, and you're set.

[hot badge]

like a subscrition for 3 months?

how much is going to cost? can we pay in fuel?

[dull wind]

yes, and yes you'll purchase using fuel. Details will be coming out soon.

[hot badge]

TYVM sir 🫡

Subscriptions are fine by me, so the team can have a stable income, but they need to figure a way to give illuvials and NFTs in general some decent value

[native mauve]

the ipl should be enough to get free players in now. They no longer need a leaderboard. That should be moved to Leviathan

[hot badge]

I mean, im focusing on arena now, because no other game kinda matters right now, but i kinda think/hope that the MMO will be the bones that support the structure of all illuvium games

[frozen tartan]

It’s just our opinion, my friend. Nothing more.

[native mauve]

Yeah maybe they will do it a bit later. I can understand if they don't want to split the player base right now, as finally games are going all the time now. But Leviathan is the real game and at some point they need to pivot there, hopefully that's sooner rather than later for us

[sinful hornet]

the game just gave 2 people composites and me item components on a pve round

[tawny dove]

Yup, saw that. Could have made the diff for you, you had a crazy strong team. I have the SS, but apparently I cannot post pictures.

[umbral oracle]

If at the end of the Sit & Go, I’m ranked 8th on the leaderboard, I qualify for the Main Draw through the leaderboard slot. That means my Sit & Go placement is no longer needed for qualification.

If I also finished 24th in the Sit & Go, my spot would instead go to the player ranked 25th in the Sit & Go standings. As long as that player is not already in the Top 8 on the leaderboard.

[manic musk]

So Sit & Go will be at 17 UTC on Friday that is 14 in Brazil.. so all players on UTC-3 that has a Job, will not be able to qualify for Saturday? I think there is a bunch of competitive BR players

[obtuse summit]

Hey guys!
What rank is the 100th placed since i cant see it on the illuvidex? want to grind myself to rewards and fame 😄

[frank moon]

just take the afternoon off you will make more by playing

[bronze spire]

1415

[turbid osprey]

Yea america is the majority of the player base and we are left out as its a standard workday. Hopefully the feedback is being heard and they change it moving forward 🙏

[dark vine]

you could still add a 2nd sng on Saturday 1 am utc, combine the results and let the top 24 of the combined table advance to include people from America

[warm isle]

It's even bad for asia cause it's 1 am

[frozen tartan]

That’s a perfect time for Russia.

[frozen tartan]

And for Ukraine too.

[frozen tartan]

And for Belarus as well.

[rancid raptor]

Hi everyone, what does it mean "play ranked for 4 hours"? Is there like a point setup for placement in each match? Should I make a new account to be ranked lower and play against lower elo players to earn more? Thanks

[frozen tartan]

Considering that we live on a planet, it's hard to find the perfect time for everyone. So these debates seem quite amusing.

[turbid osprey]

Theres no matchmaking right now, the games just start whenever theres 8 players/bots

[frozen tartan]

Set your priorities. What’s more important to you? Work — then work. Tournament — then play. It’s each person’s own responsibility.

[rancid raptor]

Dang we need a discord to see who's queueing

[viral marsh]

you can check on Rich site who on the game atm

[native mauve]

Pretty sure the majority of active player base is europe/Russia which is why illuvium have chosen those hours

[regal hound]

The consensus bias is relentless

Player activity shows peaks on EU evenings yes

And it's decently significant

[rancid raptor]

Nice!

[frank moon]

I hope the format is not the same as the last tournament since it will force people to play non stop within a certain timeframe.

During the last leviathan rumble I got #9 because some other players were able to finish an extra game within the timeframe. Getting brightland steppes as region will give players a disadvantage. It seems way better to make it a best out of minimum 5 games score like @twilit storm has presented in the past. More games could help for your average but not give you the edge vs people that were able to complete 1 game less due to rolling brightland steppes all the time. It could also help with the timeframe issue which always feels unfair for some players

@lean ivy would like to hear your thoughts

[zenith bough]

thanks.

[twilit storm]

that was for the finals tho.
8 players (cumulative points, 5 matches)

[hot pond]

what are the odds of this happening? any math nerds here? 😄

[zenith bough]

https://tenor.com/view/that-much-small-little-bit-gif-17449622

[native mauve]

5 mammoths is like $100k in vegas)

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-age-ellie-any-questions-questions-do-you-have-any-questions-gif-23894052

[hot pond]

thats like getting 777 on a slot machine

[lilac stag]

is this point system correct for sit and go tournament?

what is this everyone can just surrender and 1 free point everygame

do something like +4 +3 +2 +1 -1 -2 -3 -4

[sinful hornet]

it's not even ok to give 0 points for 8th cuz then i see slickz or fox in my lobby i just go next in 3 mintues

and if i see im a few points away from qualifying in the last minutes im just spam ffing and getting free +1 and overtaking people who play the games out

[dark vine]

sure, do that. That is easy trackable and will get you disqualified. That being said, I liked the point system we had during the last leviathan tournament

[tropic forge]

Bro why is so hard to keep a fixed structure ... I supposed that we learnt from last Tournament that Sit n go in a timeframe with capped max matches (5) was the solution.
Also, positive score from 1 to 4 , negative 5 to 8... Why are we reinventing the wheel everytime there´s a new event?

[hot pond]

so the quicker you can find a match to surrender the more points you can get? 😄

[frozen tartan]

@worn tree @dark scaffold Hi. I see the opponent’s formation. The timer runs out. Then I see a completely different formation from the opponent.

Could you please fix this bug as soon as possible?

[viral marsh]

it will be ranked games. you ready burn your LB score to do that? xD

[dark scaffold]

this one is reported to the team already 🫡

[zenith bough]

Some of us doesn't have a score to burn 🤓

[sinful hornet]

not everyone in sit & go is gonna have a rank to worry about

[viral marsh]

ok, lets count.
top players will have around 30-50 points.
you can surrender for top-8 every 3-4 min. let's say 4. for 3 hour windows it's: 36 points

ye, seems nice strategy

[frozen tartan]

Thank you

[zenith bough]

can't tell if this is a sarcastic comment or not

[sinful hornet]

it's not

i mean obviously that's not gonna be allowed most likely, but u can't dq someone who does it 2~ times

[twilit storm]

We had the same problem months ago and Hollow pointed out...also Fox had some constructive chat with me.
Seems experience is not worth a dime..good...and good luck

that s why we introduced negative points...

https://tenor.com/view/okay-whatever-zac-sistas-do-what-you-want-i-don't-care-gif-618441481968946633

[worldly token]

After the revenant nerf only half of the lobby is playing rogues 😄 love it

[turbid osprey]

@zenith mortar @umbral oracle any chance you can change to:
1st 8
2nd 6
3rd 4
4th 2
5th -2
6th -4
7th -6
8th -8

Weve been doing this for months and this format is definitely the one that makes most sense

If theres no negative points it becomes +ev to surrender straight away when you get too good people and now that you even give points to 8th place people could even qualify by spamming concede non stop during 4h

[twilit storm]

And..just for the records pls..who had this new brilliant point system idea after we battletested the one with negative points for several months?
Asking for a friend.

[dark vine]

tbh I liked the following scoring more, because you need to keep playing even if you got lucky during your first 3 or 4 matches, because the average of points was raised per game played.

But yeah, having 1 point for the places 4-8 just isn't the right way.

[zenith mortar]

The polemos event last week people really disliked getting -7 as it puts a normal player out almost immediately. And as I told people last week we have the ability to see if someone surrendered so we would know of they just quit to find a new lobby. I tried to tone down the loss pain for normal players

[twilit storm]

How many hours was the Polemos Sit&Go? coz time is crucial in this equation.

[gloomy mural]

3.5 hours

[open ibex]

3.5 hours

and i got 3 games brightland 🙁

[gloomy mural]

I got 3 crimson xd

[twilit storm]

If the qualification last few hours yea..someone could be very sad if he lose 2 games in a row.
This is E-Sport event and you prolly consider that a sub average player can t do much..but a good player will play tight strategy if the firs match goes bananas and do better the second, third and so on

I suggested at least 6 hours for the first day..but hey..it is what it is

[tropic forge]

5 games max, 6 hours max. +7 +5 +3 +2 -1 -2 -3 -4... ez pz

[lilac stag]

this one is the best, we really need to every game gives the same plus PTS as minus PTS

giving +pts for 5th place so weird

[twilit storm]

it s wrong and weird

[lilac stag]

in touranemts we always have system when we need to get top 4 to go to next stage

in ranked we always have system when we need to get top 4 to get ranked points

[tropic forge]

Honestly at Polemos, if i would take a 7th place i´ll just ragequit forever, but if we got more time here, like 5+ hours, we can do it -7 or -8

[lilac stag]

so here should be same system top 4 you get +pts if you are under top 4 you get -pts

[high snow]

So surrender will not be allowed? How about selling your board and getting killed fast etc.?

[twilit storm]

hahahah

there is always a way to play around a bad system

[tropic forge]

Man if we just cap the number of matches to 5, then those players that will surrender will only get 5 points, the minimum so no point doing that.

i mean, if you wanna go with the positive points for 5+, which i do not recommend. Perhaps adjusting the negative ones should be better, like -5 for 8th position

[sinful hornet]

u only need to make 8th give -3 points and 0 for the rest and it still solves it

[high snow]

I still see and issue. If you have no chance finishing 3rd why would you bother getting 4th when it just wastes your time? You could just sell your board to get out quicker to search for another game as soon as 8th place is out

[sinful hornet]

why would u sell ur b oard

he's not stopping u from ffing he's saying he can see if u abuse

[high snow]

To loose more hp. If there is no difference between 4th and 7th place and e.g. you get a bad imprint on Abyssal against 3 other good players. You will probably not end up top 3

[sinful hornet]

who cares at that point u spent 20 minutes in the game

[ashen mango]

1st 8
2nd 6
3rd 4
4th 2
5th 1
6th 0
7th -1
8th -3

This distribution is better imo because you don't have to heavily punish the last places

[tawny dove]

Agree with this one

[high snow]

20 vs 40 minutes is a big difference. Can easily get you another game at the end

[sinful hornet]

and?

it's not abuse it's just a decision

[zenith mortar]

so 7 5 3 2 0 -1 -2 -3

maybe something like this

[sinful hornet]

that solves it yea

[ashen mango]

I don't think that it makes sense to punish 6th place either with a -1, it makes more sense to only punish 8th and 7th in case for some reason someone surrenders early game (even accidentally) to disincentivize the 7th from exploiting the system by surrendering too if the lobby is too strong

[zenith mortar]

id say we could put 5th and 6th at 0 and then leave 7th -2 and 8th -3? but is it weird having to 0s

[ashen mango]

I get that you want to only reward the top 4 to keep coherency with the idea that top 4 are winners and bot 4 are losers but I think that it would just feel better to have more places rewarded when we can do it
So I would give point to the 5th and maybe the 6th too

[sinful hornet]

it makes almost 0 difference other than psychologically, u can give 5th-6th any points it ends up with basically the same standings, so u can do it whichever way you want

[ashen mango]

Yes, the difference is psychological and if we want to make the event as fun as possible then it makes sense to optimize the psychological aspect

[ebon aspen]

Whichever way it makes it more friendly towards new base players 😁

[west plume]

Thank you Rich, @light garnet will be happy to hear this.

[light garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/special-ed-special-gif-14524557650897979460

[noble hinge]

If the goal is to get larger player numbers for the event and/or new players then don't penalize 5 and 6. Like Sota said, there's a psychological component.

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-mike-meyers-austin-powers-hehe-gif-11108917

[zenith mortar]

How about this? Because players are playing ranked during the Sit & Go, they get a raffle ticket for 6th and above, so even if they get points for 0 they are gettings a raffle ticket?

[ashen mango]

The point of punishing the last places is to fight against surrenders and I didn't see that you have the ability to check who surrendered so in this case just a 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 distribution is great

If you cannot check then yeah the distribution that you just shared makes sense and you can give raffle tickets to everyone above 7th place

[zenith mortar]

I mean we do have the ability but its more work than i want to do extra on top of everything else, so lets go with the screenshot above and see if we have any issues as we will check after anyways

[lilac stag]

I really don't understand why so many people here want a system where you don't lose PTS or even get one for 5th place. This goes against all the principles of the game. In ranked, fifth place takes away your rating, in tournaments, fifth place doesn't go to the next stage. Where is the logic in this? Why do you now want 5th place to give PTS? If you give out PTS more than you take away each game, then the games will have no value, everything will be determined by who played more games

The first sit n go tournament which i played was hosted by Syndicate was with system +7 +5 +3 +1 -1 -3 -5 -7 and that was the best sit n go tournament which i played

[lilac stag]

this was also very good, i guess thats the same but the most important that +pts not more than -pts and also 5th place taking your pts away

[ashen mango]

You don't need to take away points for games to have value when qualifying to the tournament in a Sit & Go in the same way that you don't need to have negative points in the final of a tournament

The reason why we lose points when we bot 4 in ranked is because there is no cap to the number of games you can play so it makes the average place more relevant

I agree though on the fact that we need a capped number of games like 3 in this event so that you don't have a few players getting unlucky due to Brightland Steppes for instance preventing them from playing as many games as others
If some have 4 games we just take their 3 best games into account

[sinful hornet]

u can't take best x games or u have god knows how many tiebreakers

[ashen mango]

It's the 3 best games that you can have during the 2 hours window so the maximum will probably be 4 games
It won't increase the number of tiebreakers by a big amount if it does

[sinful hornet]

wait the window's only 2 hours?

[zenith mortar]

4

[sinful hornet]

that's easily 6 games 7 for some

[ashen mango]

Oh my bad I thought that it was 2h for some reason

So best of 5-6 games would be best I think

[sinful hornet]

what's the point actually, the last game that started before end window already counts and it solves the same problem as capping games

[west plume]

14 games for Rich😀

[ashen mango]

Some players will unfairly play less games due to Brightland Steppes or just unusually long games because of close rounds and wins VS ghosts
Other players might will unfairly play less games because they entered the queue slightly too late and have to wait a long time for the current games to end before playing

Some players who could have qualified last time got eliminated due to that

[dark vine]

but is that a big deal? I think a tournament shouldn't get rid of all the variance. Having some uncertainty/variance makes it interesting. People love sport events because teams match against each other over the course one single match. One single match ofc. isn't enough to decide which team is better since there are a lot of variables causing variance. I think this is something good.

[ashen mango]

The point is that you have almost no agency over your points/hour ratio compared to someone with the same average

[dark vine]

Otherwise we could just nominate our top 16 and the rest can go to bed

[sinful hornet]

brightlands only matters if u top 2 anyways

[ashen mango]

This variance doesn't add fun to the game, what if you play Brightland Steppes 3 times in the tournament which makes you play 1 less game than someone who has the exact same point/game average and this person is qualified but not you?

What if right at the beginning of the tournament I'm telling you "You will only be able to play 6 games" "Why?" "Bad luck"

You don't have any agency over that, luck is fun but total absence of agency isn't

[ashen mango]

It matters to lower placements as well considering that some people might have enough time to play 8 games

[tawny dove]

You want to minimize as much RNG as possible, but honestly a little wont hurt. Many sports have this. On half the wind might blow up and you face it head on. In cycling time trials it might be sunny for the first riders but rain for the last, and many more examples.
Even with really bad RNG of eg Brughtland, the biggest diff I see would be one less game. And if you play it to the to the end on that map, you still get good points anyways. Anyone whos plays more matches than other will simply and mostly be losing players, and they dont get enough points anyways even with 1-2 extra games.
I think there is being made a problem out of pretty much nothing or at best a super theoretical scenario.

[sinful hornet]

the only reason to adjust was to prevent abuse, micromanaging every single thing in the game is not needed

[dark vine]

I get that the 130hp brightland version maybe should get excluded, but aside from that I don't see 5 matches tops as beneficial, because the top 100 need to have a chance to qualify, not only the top 24+8.

Regarding the luck factor. The entire game has a luck component. If I need 20-30 mastery points more for my rolls or are even contested on my build I get a significantly worse position. That is just part of a tournament. Maximize your chances, be consistent and over the course of the ipl the best will prevail, but over a short time frame there has to be space for miracles, which make the competition interesting

[tawny dove]

Agree. A small minus of -2 and -3 for 7-8th solves this. The other part of the discussion here is not a problem imo.

[ashen mango]

I wouldn't be surprised if they would get rid of this "RNG" if they could in your example

The problem isn't only Brightland Steppes, it's also queue time and simply the fact that sometimes your 4th place is decided round 23 and sometimes it's decided round 26 depending on how close the game is and on wins VS ghosts

In this screenshot Hollow and Squak qualified with 6 games while Teckson in 9th position was in the queue when the tournament ended and hasn't been able to play his 6th game so it definitely had an impact on the tournament

There is already space for miracles with all the RNG in the game, I'm not arguing against RNG but against lack of agency over RNG @dark vine

[ember sail]

I like what I see,

[ashen mango]

I think that you could even give 1 pt to 6th place @zenith mortar and increase 1st to 5th by 1
This way even 6th players have the impression to have earned something

[turbid osprey]

Not best of but first x games within y frame period is the best imo

[hot badge]

In my opinion the arena game is going on the opposite direction than it should.
One of the critics that i made before is that augments are a bigger winning factor then affinities and class combs and should be the way around.
I never liked augments at all and even less that u could stack 3 augments per illuvial.
And now we have regions where every single draft u get legendary augments. (Pardon my french...total shit show)
U are taking out the consistent and predictable game parts and making it even more random.
Carroussel in some regions is now very unfair for top players and i think that ppl now actually lose to be first to pick and those regions. Strategy ofc, players adapt to anything u throw at them, but not a great game design.
Seems to me that ppl developing this game actually prefer caos over order and randomness over planning ahead.

Even with all this hype with IPL and many new ppl joining the game, the only reason im playing arena because theres no other mode yet and to try to get some rewards.
Im not having fun.☹️

Remember, this is just my opinion and probably many ppl like it other way.
I usually give this kinda feedback after major changes in patches.
And im sorry to say that i dont like the game as it is now.
Some changes were good, not everything was bad, but i dont like the way that the game his heading.

I realy hope that overworld MMO come soon enought, because i dont think ill play arena for much longer.
Cheers 🫡

[twilit storm]

regions where every single draft u get legendary augments. (Pardon my french...total shit show)

dumbest decision ever..the game is more and more a circus

gg for this brilliant idea guys

I was vs having the same augment twice since the first day..but...
quote: "I like it its fun" was the answer from a team member lol

now even the legendary carousel on top of it

https://tenor.com/view/wink-clin-doeil-clin-oeil-mister-right-sam-rockwell-gif-13448118081986250874

[south geyser]

Legedaries should be a late acceleration feature (round 20+)

[twilit storm]

they should be "rare"

not throwing them at you like candies

[south geyser]

Maybe others disagree, but like, if so please explain

[spring basin]

#1404537412792746196 message I've a thread about it here.

[south geyser]

I like the stage 2 carousel though. That's basically just encouraging people to build around being able to get stage 3s, which opens up some options for striving for late exodia comps

[twilit storm]

building a team is good...yeah...but making the game a joke with all those leggos?...pfff

Strange to say..but I miss @cyan olive saying "this is dogshit" ahah

no agency..pure RNG fest

[south geyser]

I've offered some solutions to the item design issues in the past. The major issues come from items that invalidate certain builds and synergies instead of just softcountering

Infinite scaling isn't good either

Omnivamp gets out of control on corner comps and is much of what enables them

But that's a drone augment rather than an item

Though I guess there's hunger

Mendo skeleton seems like a good healing item to me

It shouldn't be too much more than that

Good as in balanced. Not good as in optimal

[mellow bolt]

Really great read thank you for your input. I agree with this a lot but only one aspect. doesn’t make sense for scalability in esports pro gaming especially doesn’t make sense with so much prize money online if we’re talking about just a random game mode/ arcade mode for on boarding people free to play OK cool. it’s free to play arena randomized deck randomized augment But like you’re saying where the game is heading the pro league, this game type for the pro league this game type for the money doesn’t make sense. Also, like you said this is just my opinion that doesn’t make me right. The good thing is that bad ideas don’t succeed so eventually when this doesn’t scale they’re gonna have to adapt and change the game or add better modes. funny you’re not the first person to get on here and say that they’re not having fun and they probably won’t keep playing the game. i’ve said it once and I’ll say it again just because a few people like the game doesn’t mean it’s gonna scale and be successful with the general public if the company wants to make money the broad population of normal ppl need to like the game . #4maga augments

Also, I know the game is still new. They’re still working on a lot of things, but yeah, there’s a lot of randomness to winning

They should implement arena gauntlet with no augments, unlimited roles as a secondary game type just as a test

[south geyser]

Full mud round 3, lol

[mellow bolt]

Damn, that’s crazy. I’ve gotten Joe tune slapping three Frost middle round five so nine of each before around six. And rolled a frost argument later that game if that’s not locked I don’t know what it is. I went undefeated that game. I beat top players that game and it’s never happened again and played over 300 games.

[twilit storm]

player agency peak moment i d say

[south geyser]

Oh I was referring to the suggestion above to have free rerolls on a separate mode, lol

I've never been that lucky in my life

[unreal siren]

Question regarding IPL: Is there any plan/consideration to varying the sit n go start times? The 17:00 UTC start time for sit n go is midday Friday in North/South America, Im sure several people have conflicts with work, myself in particular.

Which I guess leads to the larger question of: Is IPL effectively the line in the sand where the career gamers effectively take over leaderboards and its no longer worth a casual gamer's time? Feels like we're getting to a point where even if I finish Top 4 100% of the time, I won't log enough games to get high enough on the leaderboard for rewards. Sorry, that was 2 questions. I also recognize that I have to choose how to prioritize my own time, just trying to have it all here...

[viral marsh]

it's just 24 slots for this IPL tournament.
and as show previous tournament results, it's around same people in top-30 every time.
and i'm sure 20/24 will be this same "names", so time dothen mater, untill we have 64 128 slots i think

[hot badge]

Agree with the no augments part

[mellow bolt]

I played leviathan ranked versus bots in three games in a row. I got my full build that was 10 o’clock at night on a Thursday before the 4 AM Friday tournament got in the tournament in three games never got a single stage three 😂😂😂😂 lucky sometimes but not when it matters

[viral marsh]

coz bots play different. you can watch some ranked games, and most of people play around same strats. and bots just pick random unit, so it's way to ez build what you whant

[south geyser]

Is the ipl sitngo just going to track everyone, or do people have to sign up in some way?

Not sure I totally understand the system beyond tryhard for 4 hours on Friday

[twilit storm]

no need to register..just play ranked

[south geyser]

Hell yeah

Does it count off of match start times or match end times?

[grizzled remnant]

Guys, is it normal for the game to use 99% of the video card and crash sometimes? My video card is a 4070

[sinful hornet]

does this mean if you surrender the game won't count?

[mellow bolt]

10am PST time Friday morning for the qualifier 1pm EST time for the USA ppl

[west quartz]

bug ?

[mellow bolt]

Tournaments in the middle of the day on a Friday genius… people have jobs so I guess if you guys wanna play better call into work. if the metrics and analytics show that mostly European player show up so that timeframe makes the most sense I get that but have you ever done a tournament at 8 PM on a Friday Pacific standard time for the US more people game at night on Fridays and Saturdays nights so if Americans aren’t showing up for the bracket it’s probably because you do tournaments at three in the morning or in the middle of the day, so yeah the analytics are gonna show it’s mostly people outside of the US 🤦

Hopefully, I’m jumping to conclusions and they randomize the times of all the tournaments one tournament for every time zone

[wicked hedge]

wen wildfire templar bulwark nerf? i dont think people move their positions at all througout the game.. must be fun 😅

[warm isle]

Nerf everything later maybe can nerf Psion

[unreal siren]

My hope is that, as the player base grows, they'll be able to have "regional" tournaments/qualifiers. Otherwise all that's left are the pros that do this for a living, or those lucky enough to have the start times fall into those golden hours when they're not working or sleeping.

[rancid raptor]

ok what

this with harbringer is crazy

[tawny dove]

The data was pulled from overall gameplay and not from previous tournaments. So the argument from the team to put it where it is makes sense. No matter when it was put, it would be at a bad time for someone somewhere. As @unreal siren just wrote, hopefully when the game grows there can be multiple qualifies at different times or even regional qualifiers.

[twilit storm]

It s so easy to spot you guys multiaccounting..it s not even funny.
You deserve a perma ban imho..but hey they can t see you "apparently"

understand Miúdo? ye?

[tawny dove]

Who multiaccounted in the game we just played?

[twilit storm]

who

cares

[tawny dove]

Lol, ok. Seems someone is sad with his 4th place...

[gloomy barn]

You brought it up so looks like you care 🤣

[tawny dove]

So, who's multiaccounting @twilit storm ?

[summer frigate]

When leviathan leaderboards/rewards ?

[mellow bolt]

That’s why they need to make Leviathan ascendant the highest rewarded game mode can’t multi account effectively. You would have to send all your highest TPI to one account to be relevant/competitive.

The marketplace would explode is leviathan ascendant gauntlet was a thing

But what do I know I just own three successful businesses at the age of 34.

[twilit storm]

you can t understand... only @warped ocean had enuff IQ to read the meanings, sorry

[twilit storm]

why sad? ah..wait you need to brag your win..got it kid, it s ok

https://tenor.com/view/michelle-tanner-strong-flexing-gif-5906052

[gloomy barn]

Sure 🤣

[tawny dove]

You started throwing accusations of cheating around, no proof, no nothing. Who's the kiddo? Suck up your loss and move on

[turbid osprey]

Hey guys heres a thread for the Sit & Go phase of the IPL tournaments #1404996254328688750 message

[paper escarp]

@zenith mortarExcuse me, sir, where can I get the prize of last week's lucky draw?

[zenith mortar]

We
Will send it to your rewards section in profile

Probably the next day or so

[umbral oracle]

Sometimes the timing will favour Europe, sometimes the US, that’s just the reality of having a global player base. Our goal is to balance both, but if we run events at US peak hours, it’s naturally going to be very late for most of Europe.

We’ll also make sure plenty of events land on weekends, when it’s easier for everyone to play.

It’s all about finding that sweet spot so both regions feel included.

[paper escarp]

Thank you,sir

[mellow bolt]

💪💪💪🙏🙏

[fallen vortex]

Repositioning every round sounds enjoyable to you? Its such a chore lmao. in TFT I never reposition and I aint even sorry. Bronze 4eva

[cyan olive]

it still isn´t better 🙁

[cyan olive]

you can do that until master or higher, TFT doesn´t have the crazy polarizing abilities, often just ocrrect to sit same positioning anyways

[mighty tulip]

Wen you go to reposition something and you accidentally bench your bonded 3 augment carry 3 seconds before the round starts 😱🤬

[dark vine]

May I ask why two qualifiers aren't an option? Like two separate sngs over 4 hours. Only the first sng a player plays counts. The results get combined and the 24 players with the most points proceed to the finals.

[hot badge]

Look...Augments everywhere!
At round 11 or 12 there were ppl with 4 shock, 4 templar, 4 phantom, etc...How is this good game design?
Make a region where ppl select one composite and give it max threshold right from the start! (irony, just in case u actually take it serious and do it)
The game is becoming a shit show, seriously.
I was not having fun at all playing it, now im getting frustrated and the next step is just getting sad and quiting it for good.
This is becoming a clown fiesta.

Make a region with no augments and bullshit. Just simple class and affinity. Pure illuvials sinergies and see how ppl like it.

[dark vine]

Tbh. I think it is fun that way, but maybe I am part of the minority with that opinion

[arctic steppe]

😂

[dark vine]

okay, that is indeed too much.

[hot badge]

Thats what i mean. How does that even make sense?

[viral marsh]

imagine: at EU qualifiers will play 15 from top 20 players. and at US qualifiers will play 5 from top-20, or otherwise.
but it will be same amount of time/games, and people who play not so good can get more points, that better players in different time-zone.

[hot badge]

Every opinion is valid and i respect yours.
I personally hate it that way and i dont see how new players are going to like it when even i, that im playing this for a while, dont know whats happening sometimes.
Is just caos and zero sense.
Make the game for the masses and give it a little something for the pros. Not the other way around, or we wont have new players and the game will fail.
Now that the marketing has started, i would like to see how many new accounts were created and how many stay in the game after one week. I have no clue, but im betting that the numbers are low 🤔

[warm isle]

It should be 6 revenants keeping the shield up all the time

[umbral oracle]

It could be an option in the future

[bronze spire]

i think its fun too, maybe could be less frequent it occurs though

[spring basin]

I've made a feedback thread about it here: #1404537412792746196 message Coming with constructive criticism and voicing our opinions in a respectful way is the best approach if we want to see change. If you agree, you can upvote it and leave a comment so it’s easier for the devs to steer the game in the right direction.

[twilit storm]

I think it s intended @spring basin .
Relying heavily on luck can make new players feel good when they win, despite their poor knowledge of the game's complexities like augments, amplifiers, and units. This is a very decisive way to solve the new-player problem, as the luck factor can carry them to the podium.
If the goal is mass adoption, this is a very smart move. However, if the goal is long-term player retention, this approach can be tricky. After players have invested time in learning and improving, they may get frustrated and leave if they see no difference between their skill and the luck of a new player. /my2cents

[fallen vortex]

I think it's fun that way too, but really its less fun since it's happening so often. It should be a special moment and I'm inclined to agree that rn it just feels like a bit of a mess

[twilit storm]

Just to be clear, I wasn't even talking about our match. I was watching ILVArena247 (twitch) on my second monitor and typed the message after we finished playing. Have a good day.

[noble radish]

Update on Leviathan: It will take us a bit of time to move the logic of the bonuses so that we can configure them more easily. And while it isn't much, we have a few other things that have to be done now because they are about to be deployed. So when we get this locked in I'll let you know.

From there, we can test some tournaments with different parameters, and find out what is best. Then we can plan a league.

Thanks for your patience.

[viral marsh]

how that possible? - i got 0 pho spending 200+- gold.
my opponent build phosphorus. we start roll in 7-8 around at same time

then - 0 dash in pool. i start watch from round 8. Hollow build Umbre at round 14-15+-

[sinful hornet]

i saw double dash in like 3 shops

[tropic forge]

Random phrase of the day...
A pro woke up to grind nonstop but gave up... 👀 👀 👀 ...
Are world champions getting their ass kicked lately 👀 ...
Subliminal verses to the unknown ... Dust in the wind...

[sinful hornet]

at lvl 6 not 7

[tropic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/based-uh-hello-based-department-based-department-american-psycho-patrick-bateman-gif-22458382

it´s not fun if i can´t spectate games to see magic tricks... cmon...

[dark vine]

things are getting real, better prepare your Illuvials! #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[viral marsh]

untill it's again some broken weapons, prepare your luck to got them

[warm isle]

What is broken weapon now fox?

[warm isle]

Oh that Psion earth

[viral marsh]

theyr still broken for 2 month already.

[ashen mango]

Harbinger?

[warm isle]

Should be

[viral marsh]

who knows

all team 2k dmg. this weapon - 35k. 10sec fight btw

still broken as well. even after revenant nerf. 100% crit chance. 15-20k dmg in 15sec

[hot pond]

the rev chip is literally on godlike level. 3 revenant is mid and 4 revenant is S+

[warm isle]

If combo with range slashin crit

If not it's not as that good

[hot pond]

doesnt need range necessarily. You can use the normal crit augments too

[warm isle]

Got hunter precision

[hot pond]

thats also there

you can even use just stage 2 pengiun with it, you will snowball like crazy because rev trait can be found so easy and quick

but playing coinflip whether there will be a chip in the match or not is such a stupid thing

[mighty tulip]

Just came 4th. Top 3 players get Arcanite, mystic and Templar imprints.

I get bloody magma. Like, wtf am I supposed to do with that 😅

I'm watching a Jotun infinitely scale as he wrecks my team with Templar but don't worry guys. I've got this slow moving patch on the ground keeping his feet warm 😅

[tropic forge]

@viral marsh @sinful hornet what an epic ending game 🏆

[sinful hornet]

skill issue then, u can tailor literally whatever u want

[tropic forge]

you guys really are at another skill lv 🤣 .

[sinful hornet]

@viral marsh would u play the carry items on blazenite instead of phyriox?

[viral marsh]

i think it's end for me, when can't find phosphorus/behemoth

[viral marsh]

2 as 100%

[mighty tulip]

I was running 3 wildfire. But it gave me choices based off single illuvials. It's not a skill issue I'm I'm running 3 of something and don't get offered the 4th 😅

[dark vine]

you can manipulate the crates by benching the stuff you don't want.

(btw. I think the crates should decide the content directly after the pve round not upon opening them)

maybe even at the end of the last pvp round to avoid that stuff

[mighty tulip]

Ah now I didn't know this. I thought it was decided on the pve round

Yeah ok, skill issue then

[sinful hornet]

i think upon opening is way better, actual randomness is just a clown fiesta

[dark vine]

well, having to bench everything expect the composites I want is bad game design. You could just give me a composite of my choice in that case.

[sinful hornet]

i agree with that

but i'd much rather have it untouched than turned into way worse

[mighty tulip]

Shouldn't we just be building them. Combine two fighter imprints for berserker

[sinful hornet]

ye

[dark vine]

I like that idea

[muted iris]

6/8

[zenith bough]

leviathan?

[mellow bolt]

Welcome to IPL you win money based on luck 🍀. This happens to me all the time 20 plus rolls and no one is building what I’m building and still don’t get any of the 3 that I need

[muted iris]

Arena rank

Just daily match

[cursive echo]

bug reported in the draft I took a stage 2 which disappeared afterwards

[hot pond]

I think you need space in bench in that region. Also noticed my unit missing once

[warm isle]

Mine also missing a lura

[cursive echo]

yes I had no more space

@frozen tartan Well you resisted playing the revenant team you deserve congratulations for your team 7 Earth bloom 👍

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/вкусно-gif-5611023417218049770

[zenith mortar]

Whats "Skill issue" mean?

[mighty tulip]

Means I don't know wtf I'm doing 😅

[zenith mortar]

Ah thats why i didnt get it

cause im too good

[scarlet spindle]

When I am playing poker, all these 4 aces and 4 kings are too strong, We should nerf them so my full house can still win!

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[sinful hornet]

what in this team stuns me?

[cursive echo]

@sinful hornet oushhh I watched your fight

[sinful hornet]

i don't get it what's stunning my blazenite

[sinful hornet]

no

he gets stunned before he's last unit

[cursive echo]

much too fast not seen

[viral marsh]

if close unit die>stun other near him. your blaznenite was closer i think

[ashen mango]

Maybe Ranger with Staggering Strike

[sinful hornet]

no i looked at it, forgot what it was but was something else

wait does frost stun?

[warm isle]

Yes if 4

But it's not 4

Maybe ghaz charm it

[ashen mango]

It freezes which is the equivalent of a stun I guess, not sure if it prevents you from generating energy

[twilit storm]

Frozen
Cannot Move, Attack, use abilities, or gain energy

@sinful hornet

[warped basalt]

bugs, crash, bugs, crash and bugs crash.. And there is also talk of some official tournaments

[karmic token]

Usually works without any sense, root otherwise is describes that units cannot move, but this one disarms and interrupts omega.. and many others at random

[sinful hornet]

cling knocksup after root

[karmic token]

I don't think there is any description for Knocking-up, or that it exists as a keyword.

[scarlet spindle]

Doh draft round was bugged and i couldnt pick the unit 🙁

[zenith mortar]

kukkulus

[zenith mortar]

oh

[sinful hornet]

esports ready is what they call it

[twilit storm]

@sinful hornet can be suit amp..check lmko suit amp during that match on rich site ..maybe is the "flare starmail"

[sinful hornet]

it wasn't

[twilit storm]

u already checked..or the ranger was already dead?

[viral marsh]

it was diff suit. i watch this game

[sinful hornet]

i checked and it was a non stun suit

[scarlet spindle]

What is this, a bug that happens to others? or a one off
I tried his tail, his feet, his head.. and when I hit the tip of his nose it picked the one in front of him.
I think that was the only chance I had to win that game.

[sinful hornet]

2 people got phantom and 3 people got inferno off this, any idea how we're supposed to play the game devs?

[viral marsh]

you need just stage-2 for both synergy. say thanks, that it's not spore/tsunami

[hot pond]

Mud is the worst imo, forcing you to play one single comp to roll for the monkeys all S3. What a dumb thing

[sinful hornet]

ye but we're all contesting the same units and the guy who got berserker just won the game for free round 1

[twilit storm]

hollow...it was frost....stunning you lol

[sinful hornet]

ok

[tropic forge]

Guys i changed my name after the Polemos Leviathan Tournament. Are the rewards going in the dashboard? did you guys received em already or he will contact the winners?

[gloomy mural]

it wasnt

he doesnt have 4 frost

[ebon aspen]

I don't understand this also, it is not 4 frost, maybe it somehow enchanter glitch ?

Leviathan anyone ?

[fleet pumice]

can someone explain the difference in gauntlet between leviathan and non

when do my own illuvitars come into play?

[twilit storm]

frost stuns ...as soon as u have 2 units

or am I missing something

[sinful hornet]

so to not be lost on wording, what i mean is my blazenite just stopped attacking with units in his face and just started staggering, idk if that's frost or not, but it doesn't have to be necessarily stun

[ebon aspen]

perhaps blazenite was attacking too fast which caused a glitch ?

[twilit storm]

can be several effects

[sinful hornet]

nah he didn't have chronoflux

there was that make untargatable at 50% hp or something item on his umbre and that's what i don't know if it just bugged him out and caused him to not attack anything else

[twilit storm]

yeye

frost reduce attack speed..only frozen stuns..right

[ebon aspen]

looks like only way to go deep into to this is pretty much video recording all your matches

[twilit storm]

weird..the game is bug free 👀

[sinful hornet]

i mean i guess it can only be quinx but he didn't move so i have 0 clue

[ebon aspen]

jeez we have 10 actives matches

[twilit storm]

8 ranked 2 casual yes

[ebon aspen]

I personally think there are huge issues with quinx

[zenith mortar]

might be more i havent investigated yet my i think my thing limits to 10

[native mauve]

Yeaj I've seen 10 games on many times but never more than that

[sinful hornet]

when u spectate can you see pov? like players shop/ gold/ live positioning?

[ebon aspen]

nope

live positiong yes

[sinful hornet]

but u can only see units appearing on bench or board then nothing else?

[ebon aspen]

I have many glitches so hard say 🤣

[ashen mango]

Is the game harder to run now?
I had performance issues earlier today

[viral marsh]

70 in 4.5 hour unreal. gg bb "pro-player"

[arctic steppe]

GG Fox, you played well this week 🤝 Good thing the IPL won’t have Rich’s site to cherry-pick the easier lobbies

[viral marsh]

i look for some your games. nice strats you use. do you create them by yourself?

[arctic steppe]

Nahh, here with my friends we all learn together, watching @analog sandal and @primal flax games helps me a lot 🫡

[viral marsh]

game name - "find differents".

2 day after i try mud-predator. look today on your game, oh wonder, you also use it.
nice you learn with your friends)

[arctic steppe]

Yes my friend, you’re the one who invented the Predator comp, your ego’s doing well, huh?

[viral marsh]

then don't call you create something, when you thief from other

[arctic steppe]

You’re the only one who read the patch notes and saw it got buffed 😂

[viral marsh]

when i look and see things 1 in 1. and that happend after i play it, 6 days after patch. it's seems...strange.
1st 2 days what you spam? rog and inferno? nice you read patch xD

[arctic steppe]

Sorry, I’ll try not to play with the units you use in the next matches 😔

[viral marsh]

better say "thank you for your builds" instead tell fairy-tails about how you think about something new

[arctic steppe]

Thanks for the builds! I’ll use them against you in the IPL! 🫡

[twilit storm]

the build is important yes..and Fox is our best theory crafter since forever..but guys..the "player component" is crucial..you two are beasts, your team building, strategy, eco and weap/aug/amp selection is from another planet..even galaxy.
/respect

[arctic steppe]

Thanks, mate! The competitive level in Illuvium is rising every day, the IPL is gonna be on fire!! 🔥

[viral marsh]

i'm not best. some of new builds, it's something from past.
some things i take from other players, but change a bit.
some things from guild ideas.

just be honest, instead of talking: "i'm think about new cool builds, and spam rog-revenant". same will be soon again(after tournament), shields in every lobby, untill they got delete/rewok from game

[twilit storm]

Ser, an alchemist transforms lead into gold, and you are one of the best Illuvium alchemists so far.

[steady spade]

here we can use ilv with stats? or all ilv are no stats ?

[safe valve]

in gauntlet ranked are all stats standardized.
It's leviathan where you play with your own illuvials.

[latent osprey]

yo just a feedback i was in queue 3/8

my energy went down

and it still kept me in queue

thats shouldnt exist

[bitter cypress]

<@&1400508814910029907> 6 of 8 right now

[cursive echo]

@sinful hornet protects blaznite!

[sinful hornet]

dude we're so esports ready

[cursive echo]

omg gg

[sinful hornet]

3 games in less than 30 i don't get a fucking composite when the lobby does

[bitter cypress]

that a bug?

[sinful hornet]

yes

[bitter cypress]

<@&1400508814910029907> 7 of 8

[scarlet spindle]

I am in there

[sinful hornet]

somewhere in the top 4 everyone got one but me

and this keeps happening way too often

it has to do with spectating but if i can't spectate in pve rounds then how is this game playable

[gilded axle]

https://tenor.com/view/climatechange-global-warming-elmo-fire-elmo-fire-gif-7001845577934684623

[ebon aspen]

just noticed I pushed lvl 10 🤣

[sinful hornet]

80 gold water attipo

[ebon aspen]

had to use him

[fallen vortex]

Honestly, I personally believe there's something a bit broken in the game if level 10 makes absolutely no difference against level 8. I think its partly because earlier basic synergies are practically worthless, so adding an extra fire or earth or 2 basically doesn't do anything.

[noble radish]

Just a heads up we are testing a way to make placements easier while making the smaller grid system work well. We're going to use two grids. One for placement and one for the fight. This way units can still get into the cracks and move smoothly, without the jankiness other games suffer from, but while also making placement a bit simpler which tends to get in the way more than it helps.

We are just testing internally so nothing is confirmed but I will let you know how it is going soon.

[bitter cypress]

more stg3 less stg 2 illuvials makes a difference

[fallen vortex]

This sounds like a dream come true! The more simplified the positioning becomes I think the more enjoyable, you do need to ensure the depth is made up in other areas tho, so it'll be interesting

[fallen vortex]

Yes it makes a difference, but so much of a difference that filling additional synergies? Having extra Illuvials and more don't to make up for it?

I think Augments are the issue tbh. Since an Illuvial can have 3 augments, having 1 hypercarry outweighs basically every other decision in the game. Its all about making that 1 piece as strong as you can, nothing else matters.

But the autobattler should be about team coherence and composition imo.

[bitter cypress]

to be honest i really enjoy the game the way it is now.

its been tweaked so much... a bit of consistency would be nice 😒

<@&1400508814910029907> 7 of 8 right now !

[fallen vortex]

Yeah the 8/10 illuvial thing is a bit nitpicky, but I've never seen a level 8 person lose to a level 9 or 10, might as well remove those levels if you ask me

[bitter cypress]

personally i never use it