🎮〕illuvium-arena

[west plume]

that feeling when you press Casual mode and not ranked

[zenith mortar]

Something is coming

[stoic moon]

How M0z4rt is supposed to work? I write him something and he answer or what?

[manic musk]

Can someone explain how works the illuvials appearing like if 3 players gets the same illuvium it will reduce the amount of it for me?

[sinful hornet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_g_zQRvHB45MxPhCdUJ_bh9acK2A2hfYhJ79RslFsm0/edit?pli=1&gid=1872029413#gid=1872029413

The pool is shared, if someone has 19 lynxes for some reason that means there are 0 left in the shop

[rapid zenith]

Wow, I didn't realise there were finite numbers of them all - that kinda changes things 😂

[granite echo]

There is a bug where you dont receive the imprints when you select an augment 🪲

[glad field]

Anyone have how many people are showing on the leaderboard for Overworld and Area? I see 1,252 for Zero.

[rapid zenith]

Illuvium beer?

[ashen mango]

That's a bit annoying

[dull wind]

same goes for having a huge drone in the middle of the board...

[distant lintel]

can i somehow check in my gauntlet match what rating my oponents have?

[ashen mango]

You don't have this problem if you mute the opponent

[stoic moon]

what decides how is finishing higher if 2 players bust in the same round

[wicked hedge]

Health, how much you loose by

[arctic steppe]

yea... i have the same bug today

[ashen mango]

Is Dualeph's beam wider than Synalph's @worn tree?

Not just visually but in terms of hit box

[viral marsh]

did i stuck? 10 min almost 6/8

[ashen mango]

Totally agree
I hope they will add the "+" button again

And when there's no synergy they could add a cross at the place where we see the illuvial with which we bonded

[low comet]

If someone got s3 illuvial and you’re missing 1 to get s3 too of same illuvial is there a chance to get it?

[turbid osprey]

For t1-2-3 yes

[hot pond]

@worn tree I think everybody wants the Plus icon back at this point 😅

[hot pond]

It’s enough if it turns to a plus again if unbonded. Once bonded you see the bonded illuvial as it is now.

[safe valve]

i like the illuvial drag 🙃
It's probably also mobile compatible.

[low comet]

Im playing 1v1, enemy got blotto im missing 1 headi i think i spent 100 gold still no headi hahahaha

[worn tree]

Correct, width units are 12/15/18 for each stage.

[worn tree]

I understand the reasons why some of you would want that. But we are working on a better solution than the "+" button and what we have now.

Also we want a solution that as @safe valve says is mobile compatible, "+" is not.

[viral marsh]

sometimes i drag illuvial to ranger, drag time start>move to 60-80%, then start move again and again. so rebonding take sometimes 5-6sec

sometimes when i try bonding close to border, illuvial/ranger disappear, and to fix that have move other unit.
so every bonding take not 2 sec.
you have put 2 units in middle, then put ranger like in the middle of model and pray everything will work

[worn tree]

Yes, we will improve that as well.

[zenith mortar]

illuvilytics.web.app/

well check it out guys

lol

its MVP

but its live

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[zenith mortar]

i'll add some real builds tomorrow when @valid stirrup sends them over

some images are still missing too

but im too lazy today to fix

[stoic moon]

How M0z4rt is supposed to work? I write him something and he answer or what?

[safe valve]

can try.
i tried it out long time ago and wasn't really working as i wished 😄
what are you trying to do?

[stoic moon]

i wrote him a bug report but no response

[zenith mortar]

he might be ded

what you need

[safe valve]

bug reports are best sent ingame with hitting "B"

[stoic moon]

ok, can i add a short clip?

[safe valve]

you get an automated response per mail where you then can add a clip.

[stoic moon]

ok, but maybe it is not a bug

[safe valve]

that's no problem.
in case of uncertainty i always write a bug report aswell.

[stoic moon]

when you play Lynx should he count to synergies?

[safe valve]

Stage 1 doesn't have class/affinity
stag 2 does have a class
stage 3 does have a class+affinity

lynxes are kinda special in that case

[stoic moon]

ok than it wasn´t a bug^^

[ashen mango]

They are a bit stronger than normal what you would expect from a T2 as standalone units to compensate for that

[stoic moon]

yes make sense

[west plume]

You made a website?

[zenith mortar]

yes

lars

what are you doing

[twilit storm]

rich ? so good

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-wahlberg-smh-shake-head-no-nope-gif-17582268

[zenith mortar]

lol

its coming

relax

[safe valve]

but not too shabby for your first website 🙂

[zenith mortar]

and for less than probably 24 hours of actual work

it will improve next week

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[west plume]

playing some gauntlet and then almost spit out my drink seeing this

[zenith mortar]

😆

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

It must be @uncut comet

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/they-had-us-in-the-first-half-not-gonna-lie-gif-13620240

The site looks good

maybe you will beat Linkky on his launch🫠

[zenith mortar]

Wut you mean dawg

Its launched

Just ship shit

Don't waste time

Ill add more as I go but its useful as is

[west plume]

launched yes

but

a few things missing Rich

not that i need it i have everytrhing memorized

[zenith mortar]

😆 you're right Lars I'm sorry

I'll do better

[winter breach]

its still a beta release

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-smirk-gif-1501673502766173669

[zenith mortar]

This is alpha

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-a-trap-dominic-toretto-vin-diesel-fast-x-they're-luring-you-in-gif-13500803666361148163

[winter breach]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-stickfigure-not-affected-gif-14391548

[zenith mortar]

I'm gonna raise 5m

And add some ui elements

[west plume]

Wen token?

[zenith mortar]

Ticker is $DICK

[winter breach]

https://tenor.com/view/we-must-buy-them-all-eric-cartman-kenny-mccormick-stan-marsh-south-park-gif-21683010

[distant lintel]

is overworld still planned to be turned into roguelite?

[zenith mortar]

Ok so next functionality coming is going to be anyone can submit a build and we vote on it to be displayed on the meta builds

Will Lars submit a decent build

[west plume]

i have a few

that i copied

[turbid osprey]

@west plume maybe you can pay @viral marsh to get your name tomorrow, he changes everyday

[viral marsh]

can i pay someone to play with anonimous nickname?

[ashen mango]

Hello Stuart, is there a way to be on this list? 🙂

[dull wind]

the API should be public for everyone

[ashen mango]

Where? 👀

[dull wind]

I'm not sure on the status of it. Stuart will answer that.

[zenith mortar]

Some ppl have access

It costs money to maintain APIs

And use them

[granite echo]

We need weapons integrated in teambuilder

And more weapon flexibility. Even though its rng, it seems like i always get the same weapons

[dull wind]

sure there's costs with the server to run the APIs, but we should definitely have public APIs for the community to use.

[zenith mortar]

I'm saying if people spam APIs that costs money

[zenith mortar]

I'm working on it

[turbid osprey]

You cant be anonymous as long as the leaderboard is public and you stay on top of it

[dull wind]

Ah yes that's true. But if we require users to log in with their credentials we can ban abusers. And there should also be limit rates to the API access.

[zenith mortar]

Yup just takes more dev 😉 which is why it's not public currently

[ashen mango]

I applied 🫡 @stiff helm

[bronze spire]

congrats on rank 2 man very impressive

glad to see you finished giving out free elo to everyone

[ashen mango]

Sacrificing himself for the community

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/i-volunteer-tribute-hunger-games-gif-15058425

[fallen vortex]

Btw I am getting more into vibe coding wikis and stuff but what I don't know is how to actually make it a LIVE website.

Did U pay for some AWS server side stuff?

[fallen vortex]

I applied like 6 months ago. If U get it first tell me, so I can quit forever plz!

[zenith mortar]

Did you ever follow up?

[zenith mortar]

I went through firebase, but I've published website through ionos before

Firebase and Gemini made it super simple

[fallen vortex]

I've asked here and there yep

Silencio

[fallen vortex]

Idk what firebase is.

And you used Gemini to code it? Not cursor?

I'd love to learn more if U want to DM me a mini breakdown

[marsh bloom]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

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Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[zenith mortar]

Didn't even know what cursor was until someone mentioned it today. So no, I used a combo of chatgpt and Gemini and Gemini told me use firebase which I'm guessing is all the same entity, but yeah obviously you can dm me if you wanna know more

[tropic forge]

Sure, these are our "Pro players"...

let´s put goods comps and gameplay aside, lets just play upon the broken. That´s this patch ´s strat. So frustrating.

[zenith mortar]

37k dmg lol

Wtf

[tropic forge]

Literally 1 vs 6 . He was last on every fight, and killed my whole team. Look at the other Illuvials´s damage, literally nothing...

but well, that´s our patch. Been like 3 games on a row getting 2nd place for a ranger with 20K+ damage, or just a broken illuvial like this.

sadly our pro players prefer to use the bugs as a weapon to climb leaderboard than report em, but well,whatever...

[zenith mortar]

Is it the augments or the unit or the synergies

[tropic forge]

There´s a real big bug with Omnivamp, it´s stacks indefinitely with some other traits and makes units / ranger do like a lot of damage and heal at the same time. In this case, every time Umbre cast his Omega , does like 2+ area damage and self heals.
Slayer makes him attack so fast that´s impossible to beat.

[zenith mortar]

@worn tree @topaz lake

[tropic forge]

i had an air comp, and he was missing like all hits, imagine that...

at the end of the fight, it was Umbre vs 6 of my units, and he won all the time. This happened 3 rounds on a row, no matter what.

0 damage on attacking, 2K area damage on Omega 🤣

[cursive echo]

noo

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-bell-game-of-thrones-walk-of-atonement-cersei-lannister-gif-16635977892557113898

[arctic steppe]

Snapshot day 1 Event? 👀

[bronze spire]

btw i had no idea this could be "broken", I just played the best thing i can come up with. You also won a round with him being at this power point. He scaled with kills/drone augment

also may have been frustrating for you but playing vs 6 air perma sheilds and heals with no true sight is more frustrating lol

[bronze spire]

its not a bug at all

[zenith mortar]

People always say my builds are broken too

Problem with being elite

[twilit storm]

we will do only one snapshot at the end of day 2 and the final snapshot at the end of day 4. Very few players reached the threshold ( 15 games) so far.

[arctic steppe]

Ok.. then I'll grind harder

[open ibex]

8/8. Maybe I should eat my breakfast slower

[bronze spire]

what did you have

[open ibex]

Simple noodle, by Uber🤣

[ebon aspen]

why is it taking so long this time

game up

[open ibex]

Oh so two lobbies started together

[arctic steppe]

nooo whyy still bugged?

[arctic steppe]

I waited for your game to start before queuing up 😂

[open ibex]

[cursive echo]

It's still bugged ?

[fallen vortex]

Highly recommend cursor. Basically it uses whatever backend AI U want, gpt or whatever, but cursor can see and edit your entire codebase instead of just 1 file at a time.

It's pretty insane

[ebon aspen]

@bronze spire 4 steam lol

[bronze spire]

haha and 3 invoker

[ebon aspen]

🤣

[arctic steppe]

i think now is safe to queue

[rancid raptor]

Yup, it's sad. I don't understand why people are still cheering for this kind of clown fiesta games. Apparently most enjoy it idk

[bronze spire]

@worn tree not sure what happened here. Ranger did all that damage in what looked like an explosion (he landed in middle of corner comp). All he has as bloom and vanguard and no reflect or AOE damage

maybe vanguard auto attacks with the attack speed but didnt look like it

[tropic forge]

I do enjoy the changes, the bonding and stuff. But losing vs a player just because he knows a glitch or a bug to kill your hole team without a real comp or strat is depressing .

[rancid raptor]

Ye having bonding back is great

This broken combos are inevitable when you have so many options that converge into a single thing

Balancín Will not change a thing

[bronze spire]

id recommend watching all the TFT shorts, all of them are something 1v9ing much worse than you experienced. Not saying its good but its a thing in autobattlers. Can argue its important to have those moments eg that game we had was once in 50 games for me and even than you still beat it 1 round

[warm isle]

Yeah tft tier 5 3 star can solo everything

[bronze spire]

yea literally, no exaggeration

[fallen vortex]

Is that @zenith mortar at rank 3 or am I going crazy?

[zenith mortar]

[low comet]

i retry finding match and now 3/8 wth hahaha

[worn tree]

Hey Web3GamingTV! What was the suit amplifier equipped?

[bronze spire]

Oh those are only the weapon amplifiers? Yea not sure that might explain it exposing shield or something

[worn tree]

Do you remember the suit amplifier?

[bronze spire]

Negative but feel like I was picking tank stuff

[wide aspen]

Sounds like it was either:

• Prime Apexguard (On Combat Start, the Ranger and the 3 closest allies gain a Shield equal to 20% of their Max Health. When the Shield expires, it explodes, dealing damage based on the initial Shield amount)
• Fury Mantle (Attacks grant 2% stacking Attack Speed. Every 5th attack explodes within a 20-radius, dealing 100% of your Attack Speed as Physical Damage)
• or maybe even Vampiric Plating (Once per combat, upon reaching 30% Health, the Ranger unleashes a life-draining surge, siphoning 25% of Max Health from each of the 5 closest enemies over 5 seconds)

[jolly whale]

How is this possible! @zenith mortar

[sinful hornet]

he has insider info it's expected

[jolly whale]

Seems so

[jolly whale]

... are you saying this is not the real Rich

Gonna have to ban for multi accounting!

[twilit storm]

guys...

[sinful hornet]

no one is real rich in here anymore

[twilit storm]

hard to see who he is by points uh? you can change name not you points eh

🦊

[jolly whale]

Is it just me or is beserker completely useless unless you have 3 or more now

[safe valve]

Yea... Probably @west plume trolling rich

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/right-yeah-right-yeah-oh-yeah-ohh-gif-14553729619893238098

[bronze spire]

ohhh yea that would explain it

[turbid osprey]

Its fox he always take other people name

[twilit storm]

@bronze spire rookie numbers tho

[bronze spire]

haha what was this

[twilit storm]

a nightmare for sure

[viral marsh]

and change name work. sometimes people don't expect it's me in game.
but as soon everyone check it, some players contest me. pick my units even they don't need them, roll for all money to get units before me, etc.
need function change name without cd, or name which random generated every game

[twilit storm]

not only him...right @bronze spire ?

[viral marsh]

it's not hard detect it's him, he not change pfp

[twilit storm]

it s a bs btw guys... my personal opinion

[bronze spire]

im not trying to avoid detection in game hahah didnt think he was thought he was trolling

havent even done a game

[twilit storm]

avoid detection...

wondering why sl1ckz doesn t care about avoid detection

[viral marsh]

as i say it's work. not with everyone, but with half at lest already good. or for 1-2 games

and he 1st person who try not me let play my game

[twilit storm]

or why Messi wasn t playing with a mask during any final

that s a bs attitude imho

[viral marsh]

coz it's different game? you can't pick his ball

[twilit storm]

or the world chess chapion using a face mask while playing

[viral marsh]

same, you can't contest something. different gameplay

[twilit storm]

this is the beauty of internet...people can hide with only two key strokes..so sad

[viral marsh]

when i play my own name. most of time people lvl-up as soon see me, or roll for all money

[severe steeple]

my strongest team ever. the final wasn't even 10 sec long💪

[sinful hornet]

doesn't help to change to Hollow then cuz they do the same KEKW

[fallen vortex]

Yup

[ashen mango]

I noticed that a lot of players below top 10 tend to lvl up against me when they don't need to, sometimes they already have a board much stronger than mine

I assumed that they do this with everyone though because they want to keep their winstreak or start their winstreak for some reason

[bronze spire]

yea im pretty sure no ones playing differently if they see a name

if they do it probs at their own loss

[ashen mango]

I wouldn't go as far as saying that, but I think that some players are very aggressive early game even if they don't face the top 10

I play a bit differently against Sl1ckz for instance

[bronze spire]

yea true but also saying this isnt a good thing for them usually and no way of telling if its normal play style

[frank moon]

@viral marsh carousel working for you? totally bugged on my end

[viral marsh]

when you watch opponent tabels that happend. only alt+F4 fix that

[frank moon]

allright I will keep that in mind

[ashen mango]

The meta is pretty good right now

Great job guys 🫡

The ranger has some OP builds that might need to be nerfed but besides that it's one of the most balanced meta that I've seen I think

[hot pond]

Mainly the earth shield 🛡️ is what I noticed being too overtuned

[supple epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/wave-penny-merry-go-round-baby-cute-gif-15922858

Not so bad other then the baby game play

[hot pond]

Just assume all are m0zarts 😂

[bronze spire]

Yep haha

[viral marsh]

if noone doing that against you. it's not mean same for everyone

[bronze spire]

Doing what specifically

I can see people hoarding illuvials you are after but for example I do that anyone looking strong if I can. So I assume anyone doing that to be probs just doing it not because of name. Though now I think about it I’m sure it does happen

[viral marsh]

contest your build. eraly lvl-up, rolls not in economy etc

just play this game.
1 player build something like corner build, then suddenly he become rog (which build i play) and start roling to get all units faster that me

[bronze spire]

Why would he ruin his own game just to spite you

And why would he compete with a build of someone who he thinks is good

Doesn’t make sense

[viral marsh]

ask him

probably coz he afraid me?

[bronze spire]

So anyone playing rogs in lobby is doing it because of you. Doesn’t make sense to me I see many playing rogs. And I see people not play it early than switch

[viral marsh]

even with psyon weapon? xD

[bronze spire]

Yea maybe it does happen. For the record though that’s not why I named changed, just got a laugh out of mozart on top

[turbid osprey]

Phantom and or inferno, people often start with whatever they get early then play what they wanted or what makes sense vs the lobby

[viral marsh]

he not build inferno/phantom. he just start pick all basic rogs

[bronze spire]

So he gets bottom 4 to spite you and you still get top 4 so it’s for nothing or his just tunneling rogs no matter the weapon

[worldly token]

Carousel not working correctly?
Wasn't able to move / chose

also @worn tree I got 3 crates from the creep round 33 which ALL vanished after the round ended and I was left with nothing.

[safe valve]

that happens to me aswell... and i'm a casual noob nobody is afraid of

[viral marsh]

if that happend 1-2 times. ok. but that happend every 2nd/every game

[safe valve]

people pivot

[viral marsh]

i can see when that happend randomly and not

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/dope-gif-1211204957743195431

[sinful hornet]

people have literally griefed top 3 by going 5 and reroll to beat someone and then contest his reroll comp to grief him so he eats a bot, it's rare but they do do it

guy at 1300 elo 50% top 4 4,x average doesn't care if he eats an 8th, he's happy to see u get a -50

[severe steeple]

what do you mean by that?
I would like to understand this theory, but I don't get it.

[sinful hornet]

me 1300 score shitter, me see slickz, me say: i grief
me go 5, me roll, me make him no winstreak
me see him roll earth, me spend all gold hold units i emote and we both bot

[zenith mortar]

@safe valve

updates pushed to live

illuvilytics.web.app/

[severe steeple]

sorry, no chance to get it.

[severe steeple]

me see slickz, me say: fuck

[dull wind]

damn Rich u workin hard bro 👏

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/americanpsycho-mrw-reaction-wow-nice-gif-4982477

looking awesome!
but are you sure about those colors marking the tier rating? 😄

[zenith mortar]

no haha

ill come up with new colours

[dull wind]

Illuvium's rarity colours should work well.

[safe valve]

look like here is some nice empty space for strategy text + clips with positioning against different enemy comps.

[zenith mortar]

yeah thats where the Early Comp, mid comp, late comp, and positioning will go

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-brooklyn-ninenine-b99-smile-gif-11928987

[severe steeple]

oh, that's the reason why Mozart wins almost every game now🤔

[zenith mortar]

Duh

[twilit storm]

The "Gauntlet Divisions" is almost halfway through.

The most determined players have already pushed past the threshold, but there are tons of you right on the brink, with a real shot at earning rewards for your respective divisions.

Now more than ever, you need to push hard and play your best, don't give up.
Every division, from Silver and going up, will have its own champions. Keep fighting for those spots.
Halfway Snapshot <t:1749513600:R>

[west plume]

great

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-always-hope-shadow-moon-american-gods-you-gotta-believe-have-faith-gif-18697425

[cursive echo]

@frozen tartan mvp scoriox gg

[west plume]

the hope is coming in at 4

[frozen tartan]

Thanks for the game 🤝

[west plume]

ended pretty much as it started

[warm isle]

What is this

[warm isle]

Beat them all

[west plume]

@bronze spire not cool Porklamb

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-academy-awards-oscars2023-oscars-im-watching-you-gif-27688479

[safe valve]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[ashen mango]

Stop multi-accounting @zenith mortar you're stealing all the rewards

Oh actually Porklamb is Kieran, my joke just flopped 😭

[zenith mortar]

Looks like we're going to need to cap name changes and extend waiting periods lol @hollow citrus

[ashen mango]

Good idea

[zenith mortar]

Don't most games charge for name changes now

[ashen mango]

Even better idea

I think that WoW has that

[sinful hornet]

what's wrong with changing names tho

[distant lintel]

oor could it be that there is only a limited amount of potentially strong combinations, good player probably choose combination that was not already picked by others.sinceit was not taken by others when the 1300 player was roling he just saw strong picks given to him , and he took them.NOOOO - it can't be that,right? Surely everyone cares so much about slickz that they must be griefing ;P

[viral marsh]

better made anonymous mode, so i don't have try to avoid/hide from all this people

[viral marsh]

you are locked by weapon you pick. you have 2-3 win combos with your pick.
sometimes your win-condition it's 1-2 units.
so, if you unlucky and much other players go with around same weapons, or someone thief 1-2 your main units, then you have problem got top-1

[twilit storm]

@zenith mortar 7 days lock it s magic

[viral marsh]

is it someone else change names? or all this in case of me?

[ashen mango]

Those who hoard units that they don't use but that Sl1ckz uses then emote to him are griefing

[twilit storm]

most web 2 games do it yes..just 10 dollars and you are good to change name.

[ashen mango]

I find the T4 augment significantly worse than the T3 and T5, it deserves a rework/buff imo

Scoriox and Umbre deal a lot of damage with their omega so the AD buff isn't exploited that much and the omnivamp isn't useful on Scoriox and Blazenite

The omnivamp % is quite low as well

Attack speed instead of omnivamp would be way better and would be aligned with the T3 and T5 augments

[zenith mortar]

What are your hiding from?

[viral marsh]

already explain it 2-3 times here.
but if i do it - probably it's reasons for it?

[zenith mortar]

Well I can't find a logical reason in my mind

But you have the freedom for now, I'm just saying maybe we take the stance of other games and restrict it a bit more

[frank moon]

can you hide your name in TFT? since we're basically copying that I would suggest we copy what they do

[granite echo]

We should have a guild name separated by our ingame name

[zenith mortar]

Agree would be cool

[twilit storm]

we should have a name+guild with more chars..ppl can tag coz their name is too long

[granite echo]

Man this patch is killing me. I barely get 5th place and i have such strong comps.

[bronze spire]

i dont get how you can conclude that. Id see that and think its just a noob, sure on the list of possibilities it could be intentional. Odds are someone every game will contest and odds are someone will pivot every now and than making it look intentional

[zenith mortar]

I should have some meta comps up tomorrow on the site

Or tonight

[noble radish]

Just a quick update on tournaments. We are currently doing a small overhaul on the format, which is being guided by some of our best players and streamers. Plus we are using the input from them, some challenger level TFT players, and you guys in the community to help improve the game. We have our solid core, which has taken us a while to get to, but it's only the start. We need to add more region mods, especially some more interesting ones. Plus some Illuvials will be getting new Omegas and some tech for more fun things like aspirational synergies that go a bit wild, infinite stacking (not as a core feature, but as core tech which we can plug in as we see fit). That means you might be seeing some spirit bomb Atlas, or hyper carry Umbre, etc.

So expect the game to improve rapidly over the next month or two leading into some amazing tournaments.

Also, I'm adding some of my own tokens to sweeten the pot. (Might as well since they have just been sitting there for 4 years)

[granite echo]

Great work on the site. I already checked it, but seemed like the comps were placeholders as i saw the nature sword with the phantoms.
It would be cool to beat you in going hyper by using your site comps

[zenith mortar]

Yeah I'm going for functionality

Then

We move into comps

And voting for the best ones etc

Let ppl submit them

[arctic steppe]

is safe to queue up? 👀

i wanna play

[granite echo]

Why is my last game not counting? I finally got firat place and got 26 points to get back at 1200 rating.
But my rating is still 1176

[bronze spire]

it will update bit later i think

[granite echo]

Hope so, i will never get 1st again 🥲

[hollow orbit]

*I'm sorry if there are some strange nuances because I used a translation software.

Even if top players like fox, sl1ckz, and hollow had changed their names, we can easily tell which name is fox by looking at the leaderboard, so I don't think it makes sense in the end...

If there are players who intentionally interfere with the progress of top players, they will check the leaderboard to see their names.

I have also played with fake OxMuuh and MOzalt several times, and of course I knew they were fox. (I don't think I knew right after the season started.)

In other words, I feel that whether or not they change their name has little effect on the performance of top players.

However, when playing with top players, we will definitely be especially cautious. We may feel some kind of pressure on each other.

I don't like that pressure, so I was penalized for prohibited actions such as opening a second account, but now I think it's important to play under that pressure.

[fierce abyss]

Same thing just happened to me, finsihed second and got 23 points but hasn't been added.

[granite echo]

Oh, thats why mozart was first today. Because it wasn't @zenith mortar
And why he didnt answer when i told him to stop copying my team

[zenith mortar]

shhhhhhhhh

[twilit storm]

Here's the snapshot from the first two days of the Gauntlet Divisions.

The standings can still shift entirely.
We're only halfway through the event.
Don't give up... EVER. Keep pushing.

Green means threshold reached.

[tropic forge]

Honestly , without pointing any finger, i had some respect for top players ( and i know they don´t care about respect)
These last weeks i´ve changed my mind a lot about Illuvium Arena ´s competivity. I´ve seen most of them asking for features just to perpetuate or maintain their dominance on the game, i´ve seen multiaccounting taking rewards from other players, i´ve seen them accomodating to different timezones just to play vs bots or not to play on the same lobby...
Now they are asking to "hide" your name feature...
I know team should listen to the most skilled players, perhaps they give the best feedback, but also i´ve seen the most "convenient" feedback lately. If we want to make this game better and not a cheap or opportunist cash grab for some that think they are gods with a 200 playerbase, we must start seeing things as they are.
Sorry if this upsets anyone, it´s just my point of view, and not directed toward any person in specific.

[patent kelp]

Problems with Gaunlet?

[void dust]

you really need to be more specific.

[noble radish]

Part of the new tournament structure will make it a requirement that people play games. Nobody should be incentivised to not play.

[zenith mortar]

you mean i have to play the game

[terse rampart]

The system should reward 1 point for every 30min wait time in the arena haha

[twilit storm]

1 fuel maybe

[ember sail]

haha

really earning 1 point whether for the ranked or tournament leaderboard is regrettable. I've suffered a lot with this, now I don't care much, my competitive side is kind of like if it works, it works, if it doesn't, patience

[warm isle]

It will always work

[copper phoenix]

I just lost connection while playing Arena, but it shows as running in Epic. This is the second time I've encountered this problem. Now I can't access the game at all, and my ranking has dropped.

Could you please tell me what to do about my points in this situation? It's not fair.

[bronze spire]

think you need to ctrl alt delete and see if you can shut down illuvium from task manager

had that before where its close but still running

[copper phoenix]

@bronze spireThere is no "illuvium" in the task manager. This is the second time I have encountered this situation. If I had manually turned it off, this situation would never have occurred.

It was a long time before I managed to reach over 1300 points, but now it has dropped again. I'm so sad.

[ivory saddle]

I had this twice already too. I think the one you had to end task has the word epic in it, forgot what exactly. Then the other time it didn't work I had to restart the computer

[bronze spire]

yea might be like "epic helper" or something. Close all the epic ones

[copper phoenix]

Thank you all. I've found it. It's the "EpicWebHelper" program.

[open ibex]

[hoary spindle]

1/8 over here lol

did i miss the bus?

[open ibex]

Wait am I stuck....

[hoary spindle]

shit man you might...

[open ibex]

Ya 2/8 now....

Wasted 30+ minutes

[hoary spindle]

hahaha sorry man

[warm isle]

Try end task epic web helper

They always make that stuff

End task 2-3 times then reopen

[hoary spindle]

people should be rushing in when Im in lobby its a free win brother hahah

[warm isle]

How do we know you in lobby

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/d2-soon-smirk-smile-grin-gif-15460641

https://tenor.com/view/excited-dream-build-gif-21262829

[jolly whale]

They need to fix this....

[sinful hornet]

i didn't, im just not playing

[frozen tartan]

Why did you stop playing?

[sinful hornet]

can't justify spending 100 hours every week for 100$

[copper phoenix]

Why was it 8/4 when I queued for an hour just now, but when I cancelled and re-entered the game, it became 1/8 again?

Is it possible that I have traveled to a parallel universe?

[worldly token]

the ranger debonding every other turn is messing me up

[viral marsh]

actually - it will be not hard reset. and probably i stop play 14 hours every day at next week, and still stay at 2nd place

[sinful hornet]

whitty and 4th-6th will make u have to play more every week cuz u'll keep resetting closer to them

[viral marsh]

i'l be around 1900 after reset. they around 1600-1700.
i think if i'm not try to top-1, i can play 2 day and stop
Whity already around capitulate, not sure they keep this temp after reset

[ashen mango]

That's exciting! 😁

I hope Crystal Shore will be reworked into something more fun, what about an infinite pool or basically no pool of illuvials, just the same odds each time we pick them?

Taiga is nice but I'd like if you could add something like special augments specific to this region or maybe a 4th augment round 23 or so

Sanctum Mesa is way better now that we have 10 more golds but not that fun imo

[noble radish]

I hope Crystal Shore will be reworked into something more fun

Agree.

what about an infinite pool or basically no pool of illuvials, just the same odds each time we pick them?

Kill it with fire!

I think any time there is no competition for Illuvials the game is going to be chaos. It allows everyone to force comps, and I don't think that is healthy.

I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I think we can add in a lot of fun without going down that route. In general though, the current stuff is all the 'safe' things we could build fast. that's why they are a bit boring.

[ashen mango]

I see yeah it makes sense

Based on its description it should be the most strange region, one way to do that could be to make it so that you only need 6 units to get a stage 3 instead of 9 while making the pool smaller so that contesting other players still makes sense

We would end up with way more powerful end-game comps, more players reaching lvl 10 and more players rolling down very early

This one could be wild

[turbid osprey]

This happened to me at least 10 times, you have to close something called "webhelp epic game" in task manager (not sure of the name but its something like that)

[turbid osprey]

Oh yes exactly that, glad you found it but yea very unfortunate situation

I wonder if that totally on epic game side or if illuvium can do something @worn tree ?

[lavish python]

gg @bronze spire haha

[bronze spire]

haha its you! i was wondering

gg

[lavish python]

lol that titanor was really tough to beat

[bronze spire]

nice plancement on the quinx last round

yea haha

[lavish python]

yeah, had to divert that rhamphyre, really one shotted me

[bronze spire]

yea wp

[lavish python]

wpwp

[twilit storm]

A quick Gauntlet Divisions event update.
The heat is on.

We will reward the best players in every Division.

[west plume]

So the eligible players will play in their tier, that's brilliant.
Is there a active leaderboard to see how close people are to getting in?

[hot pond]

How are you eligible?

[west plume]

are you asking me specifically or just in general?

[hot pond]

In general

[jolly whale]

What if the available pool of illuvials increased by 1 each round... like slowly opening a tap rather than just unlimited

[west plume]

Looks like you need at least 15 games in that time window, @twilit storm

[twilit storm]

final snapshot will be <t:1749599940:F>

[ashen mango]

I saw your repositioning at the last second @fallen vortex
Same for you?

[wicked hedge]

that ranger shield was just silly, broken. Had 4 including enchanters left, all air vs a shield ranger, and it took no damage

[ashen mango]

Yeah I didn't expect to win

I lost vs test in the end

[wicked hedge]

yeah, watched it, he had 4 slayer, 4 revenant

GG, you played well

[ashen mango]

I didn't position very well tbh

Thanks

[wicked hedge]

not much to do though, he also had behemoth and enchanter

tough

[ashen mango]

I did win 1 round 😎

Halcyon sea is very special

A mistake can cost a lot of gold

[bronze spire]

Is it snap shot than rewards or still a tourney after?

[twilit storm]

TOURNAMENT REWARD DISTRIBUTION SIMULATION

[twilit storm]

rewards

[bronze spire]

Pretty cool, could be test of how future leadboard could work

[west plume]

Really like this tiered type of tournament, well done for putting this together Quants.

[sinful hornet]

hold on so plat 3 gets nothing or?

that's kinda terrible u're saying the best play for 3rd plat is to concede games until he's 1st gold

[twilit storm]

we calc rewards based on points

remember? dynamic lb

and you will lose you official lb placement if you keep losing matches..you will go down by points

so detrimnental for you dynamic lb placement and official lb placement

so no

[sinful hornet]

what do u mean, what does whity get right now in this simulation?

or is he 1st gold and plat is 1900+?

and if he gets 1900 he shares plat pool?

[twilit storm]

look at the gap this morning..if whity wanna lose intentionally he will get out of gold rewarded players pretty easily 😉 and lose a bunch of position in the official LB too

[sinful hornet]

ok but the format for plat is really stupid then

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-air-quotes-gif-593763073853675462

[viral marsh]

but it's now plat. we will get over 2100 for 1.5 days i'm sure. and it will be diamond

[sinful hornet]

idk, if i'm number 3 on the ladder played 10 hours + every day and im getting nothing i'm not trying to live for much longer not sure how else to phrase that

[viral marsh]

yes. i think about it. if 2 players will be 2100+ and 1 come close. better stay at 2099

[ebon flume]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-23069193

[ashen mango]

Btw thanks for putting your own $ILV in the upcoming tournaments, that's a gentleman move

[valid stirrup]

Something if the thinks didn’t fit for you didn’t mean it is not good it is for the rest of the people to get reward to and have fun

[dull wind]

it's not about fitting him per say. He does have a point and I've seen this happen in other games, where players downgrade league to be on top of a lower league. The only solution I see to this is if the rewards for being low plat are higher than being top gold, and the same would have to apply to all other leagues.

but even with good rewards distribution players will always try to game the system so it's a tough balancing act...

[sinful hornet]

top x something points should have guaranteed prizepool, probably top 5, something like that, it's completely braindead for some guy with 50 points to get something and guy with 100 to get nothing

[twilit storm]

it s already like this, no one from lower tier even the first of his tier get more rewards than the lowest rewarded player of the higher tier

it s linear

and being a simulation..that info is not final

[sinful hornet]

wait so 3rd place gets a prize anyway?

[twilit storm]

the rewards ratio will be adjusted based on number of eligible player/lb placement. Number of players in each tier

[dull wind]

yeah it's good on that part, we just have to figure out a way to not incentivize players to downgrade their league.

[twilit storm]

I programmed an AI agent to tune them as soon as i input new data

[sinful hornet]

then it's irrelevant

[twilit storm]

the main goal of this new system is to reward as many players as possible in every tier, respecting the hierarchy ofc.

[sinful hornet]

it's good i just saw 2 plat 4 gold and thought it's fucked

[high snow]

@viral marsh how did you die?

I was so scared of your 4 tempest

[hollow orbit]

I'm in the Platinum rank range, so if I stay at this point range, I won't get any rewards for "GAUNTLED DIVISIONS"?

And since the Platinum rank reward is for a total of 3 people, does that mean either Lmnko or web3 won't get any rewards?

[safe valve]

guess that depends on the size of the official leaderboard rewards, the playerpool and if the event of syndicate is at the same time.
Then people can choose, either get official leaderboard plat prices or downgrade to get gold syndicate event prices.

[hollow orbit]

With this system, I think it's possible that someone might "lose on purpose" depending on the situation, but am I mistaken?
#🎮〕illuvium-arena message
As fox wrote here, if the score was exactly 2100, take 5th place on purpose to make it 2099.(It depends on the other person's situation)
If this understanding is correct, perhaps web3 should have stopped at 1799?

[sinful hornet]

i think what acutally happened is that u're just not plat yet and if u were it would've shown 3 plat

and basically u just split pool from there too

[twilit storm]

@hollow orbit Just to clarify, the leaderboard you're seeing is the official leaderboard.
For the Syndicate event, we use these Divisions solely to identify specific player pools.
It's important to remember that we operate with our own distinct points system to populate our dynamic leaderboard. Players earn points based on their placement within the event, and this point-based system is what determines their final placement, thus their right to get rewards. For instance, right now, we might have 5 players in the Platinum Division, but only the top 3 from our dynamic leaderboard will be rewarded.

[hollow orbit]

Identifications such as platinum and gold are based on the official LB, right?

[twilit storm]

ofc

as I already mentioned

[hollow orbit]

If that's the case, I think a similar situation could occur either way... and it's not just me.

[twilit storm]

the more players get into one division the more player will be rewarded

latest simulation has 3 plat

and this is the last time you say stupid talking with me

from now on you can talk alone, salute

[sinful hornet]

u didn't get it, this is an idiot plot type of situation

but the big idea is that there's 4 plats at the end of the event, the prizepool gets split to the 4 of them based on event score no?

[ebon flume]

Ok you can get your point across without all the curse words, please stay respectful

[sinful hornet]

tho who, the situation???

how can u say that otherwise?

[viral marsh]

i don't understand how this even LB/division work. but it's dothen mater for me, coz i still playing, no meter it's event or not
still have 1 more day, and better made decision tomorrow. probably near end Quants made new simulation.

but if new division revards at any time at any amount of players will be higher that lower division 1st place, even not need think about it

[scarlet spindle]

Feedback: When you have full board and full bench, and you get a unit from carousel, it puts that unit on the board and deletes another unit. It should not delete a unit that you already have in play! This last game it put a t1s1 unit on my board putting me at 7/6 and deleted my stage 2 unit with 3 augs on it. This needs improvement.

[viral marsh]

just sell unit you got before round start

[scarlet spindle]

it still shouldnt delete a unit that you already have in play, upgraded and auged. It should delete that 7th out of 6

[ashen mango]

I suggest to add a special rule in tournament:
If a player gets top 1 without losing any HP, they get 1 more point 😁

[viral marsh]

if you see 7/6, you have prepared time. why not sell it?
it's sell random unit

[sinful hornet]

can dc at the wrong moment i guess

[scarlet spindle]

I didn't see that in time, I was reading something. But this shouldn't fall on the player, in this case it should delete the extra unit and not one thats already been on your board. Especially if the unit has augments it should be excluded from that possible deletion mechanic.

[gloomy mural]

won the round but game thinks differently xd

[viral marsh]

when you switch between opponent boards that happend. but next round all should be good?

[gloomy mural]

nice bug, -hp -streak

[viral marsh]

it's just visual, you not lose your streak

[fallen vortex]

Cant remember sorry. I was on the steam deck so any last second positioning is a rarity

[ashen mango]

I mean that I had a bug and I basically didn't see your repositioning during the preparation phase, only when the battle started did I see that you repositioned several of your units

@worn tree I faced this bug twice already: once VS Thanatos and once VS Scoriox
I asked Thanatos though and he doesn't play on the steam deck

[frozen tartan]

@bronze spire

Put your dog on a leash please

She bites

https://tenor.com/view/dillom-rage-dog-angry-dog-gif-17954176246139200797

[open ibex]

Who let the dog out

[frozen tartan]

@bronze spire

[open ibex]

Holy @arctic steppe that ranger and titanor so tough

[ebon aspen]

whos stuck in region selected ?

[open ibex]

time for breakfast 🍞

[arctic steppe]

insane fight bro

gg

[open ibex]

Gg👍

[bronze spire]

hahah and it didnt even win 😦

[viral marsh]

just finish game, it's say +13 rating. but my rating not change in LB.
already send bug report, but who give me my +13?

[turbid osprey]

Its always like that around daily reset, it comes after 30/60 mins

[calm raven]

Anything to do when it never launches the game and doesnt let you reconnect?

or just embrace that top 8?

2 games in a row is pretty annoying

[zenith mortar]

its this time of day

they are working on a fix still

daily the server does something around this time

causing this issue

[calm raven]

oh ok, good to know

[turbid osprey]

Next time its stuck on 8/8 you can just wait it out instead of closing the game. It takes 10-60mins

If you close the game you can try to reconnect until it works or ask here for someone in your game to ping you when it lauches

[tawny dove]

Game just came up

[zenith mortar]

illuvilytics.web.app/

updates coming daily guys

man this board logic is a pain though

but almost there

then people can submit builds through app

[fallen vortex]

Oh yeah Illuvialmaster had all that. Damn wish Sky coulda just sent it haha

[zenith mortar]

i mean i talked to him

i liked his but either way didnt want to just ask him to give it to me

and i aint trying to buy it

but im getting there

[fallen vortex]

Just checked out the site! Its looking great. I have a heap of feedback I could give on some minor shit if u want. But the Augments pages are super helpful

[zenith mortar]

i should just start a thread lol

[fallen vortex]

I have no idea how you're managing to vibe code something like the board logic but its impressive

[zenith mortar]

people giving tons of the same feedback honestly

its getting better

using a combo of bolt ai and cursor helped

[fallen vortex]

ayeee cursor, seeeee

What is this Bolt thing? Looks cool

[zenith mortar]

sky suggested it

[uncut comet]

ah men u guys wouldnt trust me i cant make this shit up rn what happened i would love to write this now but on the other side i think maybe its better how it happened

[fallen vortex]

Oh shit u can import from Figma

[zenith mortar]

makes pretty crazy UI

[fallen vortex]

I am great at Figma

I HAVE TO give this a shot

Does it host the site too?

[zenith mortar]

the problem is now i want a new bad ass ui i but everytime i tried to swithc and build in react/tailwind it breaks all my html/js/css

[fallen vortex]

oh u didnt build in react?

[zenith mortar]

i spent a long part of day reverting changes

[fallen vortex]

Ah yeah thats what i learnt from Sky first

[zenith mortar]

no

[fallen vortex]

React ftw

[zenith mortar]

because html was quicker and easier to iterate imo

[fallen vortex]

U r pretty stuck without it

[zenith mortar]

ill fix it

dont worry

[fallen vortex]

I'm much earlier in my journey hahah, i'm pumped to see you've been putting so much time into it

When I move into my new house I'm hoping I get more time and freedom to explore this sort of stuff

but I have a feeling it'll be the opposite 😛

[halcyon nova]

now way your wife will be making sure you keep it clean especialy the pool your doom'd 😉

seems like 3 of us are building houses here but maybe Rich has finish'd cuz he is coding now

[halcyon nova]

just found you site sly dog looks cool but needs a beyond componet 😉

[zenith mortar]

i'll try man

its pretty fun

[bronze spire]

you could have only 3 of them get rewards is that right? so 4th place in plat misses out but player below them in gold gets rewards

wouldnt this lead to somone last in plat surrendering a game in last few hours to get to gold?

[granite echo]

This is impressive and really good.
I can't wait to check the builds on it

And i am so surprised that you made it so fast

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/ilv-illuvium-dk-rich-pit-vipers-gif-14968050354190990632

[fallen vortex]

I definitely do not have a pool lmao. And I think I can keep it clean. Its more that rn I spend 3-4 days switched off from 'work' since I don't have my PC. But when we live together I'll always have my PC, but other additional responsibilities like cooking/cleaning more often than I currently do and much longer commutes so dunno how it'll shake out.

If I can obtain full time work in web 3 it'll go a long way.

[zenith mortar]

Im def not finished

lol

but have to be before the baby

so i have a couple months

[halcyon nova]

I Will pray for you

[zenith mortar]

I think we should be back in by mid august

which gives me like a month to move in and get baby stuff ready

so should be good

[halcyon nova]

now i know your have a bubba brings a whole new meaning to Kukah cave 😉

your gonna need a solo man cave soon

we want leagues ....at least so i cant fight against myself for bottom position 😉

[zenith mortar]

seems like pretty good feedback on leagues no?

[halcyon nova]

Id say so

[zenith mortar]

im in a league of my own

[halcyon nova]

Ima gonna send in the National guard if ya dont stop

[zenith mortar]

lol

they here

[halcyon nova]

Leagues would be realy cool then maybe in a few years we could have an iluvium team in the esport world cup

I start training my 5 year old

world cup staring soon

if Chess can make it to the esports world cup i dont see why iluvium cant

[halcyon nova]

stay safe

[zenith mortar]

did you see my watercraft

im the safest

[halcyon nova]

dont get me started 😉

Last sign off for today but Leagues could also be uaed in the free to play elements of the eco system As a way to progress to you know where 😂😂😂

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-searching-for-the-lie-search-humor-cant-find-it-gif-17069868

[spring basin]

@twilit storm I have a question about the tournament. What happens if I get the highest points in Diamond, @viral marsh reaches Diamond, and no one else does? Would he not get any rewards? I definitely think he should.
Maybe the real question is: Can a better player miss out on rewards just for gaining too much rating and moving up to a higher league?

[halcyon nova]

Project Manager – Director’s Office UEA is this my callin g ????

ah maybe not UAE nationals only

[halcyon nova]

Scoobie doo how are you children thesse day and their Roblox habit 😉

[twilit storm]

@spring basin the size of each Division's player pool directly determines how many players will be rewarded from that specific tier.

For example, if a division pool only has two players, only the best performer will walk away with a reward. This rule is designed to stimulate intense competition among top-tier players.

You have a choice: fight hard for the biggest prizes and true glory, or you can sit back, stay in a lower tier, and settle for less reward and no glory.

[frozen tartan]

@twilit storm Hi! May I leave some feedback about this activity?

[spring basin]

This should never be the scenario it's SO BAD

You have to change this 100%

You are getting Illuvium to sponsor an event that negatively impacts the competitive scene.......

[safe valve]

i feel the format speaks quite well to the whole playerbase... maybe with the exception of the very very top few players.
I don't think it's bad to have such an event rewarding more than just the top players.
There is enough incentive for the top players with the official leaderboard and all the hosted community tournaments. Literally every single other event that's been hosted so far.
And it's not like top players don't get any rewards, just not all of them 😄

[spring basin]

This is just laughable......

[safe valve]

what exactly?

[spring basin]

This might been the worst tournament format I've seen in my entrie life and you are defending it somehow

[safe valve]

i feel quants is quite open to improve it, but that would need some quality feedback.
Which i haven't seen so far tbh.

Only thing i saw so far is top people arguing all of them should get rewards because they so good and play so much.

that's what all other fromats set up.

why's there no place for this format?

[west plume]

They are still playing it😆 at least that's what my Debit card bills tells me

[tropic forge]

You top guys see the game as if u can rule it. No offense, nothing against any of u.

Is the real goal right now to improve player base, make the game a big thing, or keep paying top players a salary,because for the time you spend on it, isn´t honesty a job?

It´s currently a FREE game, that is paying u guys for FREE and can´t even get with the rules, because all rules and decisions have to favor you (top 5-10) or they are wrong.

Tournaments are a dynamic to incentivize new players to actually compete and get a feel of the game , i have to stick with Quants on this one, we need to look for fresh solutions and rewards for our entire player base , at least on some events.

We got it, you guys are the top, the elite, but sometimes you need to stop being greedy and think about the other players, and the new ones.

As i said on another post, i think Illuvium as a team must learn how to separate true player feedback and sentiment , the one that will bring new players and make the game successful, from the feedback oriented to make the game a job for 5-10 people.

[spring basin]

yeah lets listen to ppl with actually 0 experince or knowledge in the area

good point

[bronze spire]

I’m all for rewarding lower elo players. I like less rewards at the top and spread out lower. But I don’t think this is it. It’s still top heavy anyway but rank 2 can get literally zero. It’s also kind of confusing since we don’t know how many in each tier gets rewards

[safe valve]

I agree.
I feel in general the distributions of leaderboards should be flatter, meaning top get a bit less but reward like double the playerbase.

Top players money should be in tournaments, leaderboards should be to attract the masses.

[bronze spire]

yea agreed. So i dont think this is an issue of top players complaining its just seems a bit odd that you ahve to not play to get rewards or surrender games to drop a tier and get rewards

[bronze spire]

you do realise if you get 10 more rating you will be in gold and likely get no rewards? this imo isnt a top players complaining for themselves thing it just happens that the most active are also at the top and more likely to voice

while the player below you in silver will get rewarded

[safe valve]

in a perfect world, people would play for fun and honor, striving for the top rank.
But as every system people will try to trick it, to maximize their profits.

I feel if the playerbase gets bigger this gets less significant and we are talking about an insignificant small % of the playerbase doing that, and i'm not sure we should put too much work in trying to solve that problem.
Like if there were 400 people in plat and one has to sacrifice 200 ranks to get into top rewards of the lower league and therefore misses top rewards of the official leaderboard which has higher rewards, he probably wouldn't even think about it and rather put some effort to get into the rewarded rankings of his league.

[viral marsh]

whait, so if it will be 2 players with 2100+ only 1 get reward?

[tropic forge]

What i mean is, the idea is with a good intentions, perhaps the system and the way it´s implemented is not the best
You are the first one that genuinely worries about the only point that is wrong with that, and explains in on a "let´s solve the problem " mood.

[bronze spire]

yea true so is the reason for the only X amount get rewards for each tier is because it was to hard to spread out otherwise? Like you couldnt keep the same tierd system but have everyone get rewards

[frozen tartan]

Hi. This is more or less exactly what I wanted to say.

@tropic forge I’m a player ranked outside the Top 40, and I don’t have high-level competitive skills. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.

First of all — I really enjoy the events organized by @twilit storm . They bring life to the community, and I truly appreciate the effort.
But the format of this particular event doesn’t feel right to me. In my opinion, it has two major issues:

1️⃣ Lack of clarity about rewards. It’s very difficult to understand what rewards I’m actually eligible for. That creates confusion and lowers motivation to participate. @safe valve

2️⃣ Incentive to manipulate the system. If I were a strong but dishonest player and saw that I wasn’t going to place in the top rewards, I could intentionally lose games — not by quitting, but by making subtle mistakes — just to lower my rating and secure a reward spot like 7th or 8th place. That kind of system unintentionally encourages rule-breaking behavior.

3️⃣ If the goal is to reward weaker players, I suggest a simpler solution: reduce the prizes for top spots slightly, and expand the prize pool to include more players — for example, the Top 50.
I know some top players may hate me for saying this, but I’m just being honest and sharing what I truly believe is fair. ||@spring basin Sorry, champ, but that’s just my point of view.||

[safe valve]

i don't know.
But i guess it's to stimulate play time acrooss the whole playerbase.
Like a bronze ranked guy just plays for fun since he is out of all rewards systems.
But if there is a league board, and he is just a couple ranks out of rewards he might play some more games and also get into the enjoyment of competitive gaming even tho he's just bronze.

[twilit storm]

the delta between first place Diamond and first place Platinum is enuff to justify the risk..if you want the biggest prize you need to be the absolute best.

@frozen tartan thx for the very useful feedback

[viral marsh]

can we get snapshot before reset?

[safe valve]

it's the first itteration to test.
I guess if it is well received in general, quants and his companions could work on some info graphics explaining everything in eli5 manor.

[viral marsh]

like 1 or 2 hour. before event end

[hollow orbit]

Wouldn't it be better to prepare a prize pool for each rank, such as diamond, platinum, gold, etc., and distribute it among everyone in that rank?

I think that if the higher the rank within each rank, the greater the reward, the competitiveness would not be lost.

[bronze spire]

yea i can see that, maybe lower places in each tier still get rewards but it can be less than the higher places in lower tier. Kind of same problem but not as harsh

[twilit storm]

Division rewards are not fixed coz they dinamically be adjusted based on how many players are in any tier

[warm isle]

Wait follow tier?

[twilit storm]

We have 60 ILV to distribute so we do our best to reward the top players yes..but we need to normalize all the rewards to be able to rewards all the divisions top performers

[bronze spire]

the alpha here is stay in silver to get rewards, if you get to gold you likely wont. Though consider this against the actual illuvium leaderboard rewards since both event finish sam time

based on your current elo

unless you think you can get midrange gold

[twilit storm]

@viral marsh I did a simulation less than 2 hours ago, I will publish it in few minutes

[viral marsh]

can we get it around end as well?

[ashen mango]

The problem is that there are scenarios in which players are incentivized to not play or to lose on purpose to get the rewards, and if you do then you will be shamed for having "no honor"

In other words you would have "honor" if you self destruct by choosing to sacrifice your rewards, but if you don't do this you self destruct by getting less points on the leaderboard and being shamed for having "no honor"

A tournament should not incentivize to lose on purpose or to not play

[twilit storm]

sure

[frozen tartan]

#🎮〕illuvium-overworld message

Honor 🤣

[safe valve]

nobody is going to be shamed for playing the system.
It's everyones own choice to play like he wants and there's nothing wrong with it if it's happening within the ruleset.
If there are people shaming others, feel free to ping me. 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/moderator-gif-22773151

[warm isle]

So just a better stay silver 3?

[frozen tartan]

It’s a very fine line.

Deliberately throwing matches or throwing the game is probably against the rules.

But not playing to let your competitors overtake you is obviously not forbidden.

[bronze spire]

Yea unless you get get higher up in gold or you think leaderboard reward increase is better

[warm isle]

Both got rewards?

[bronze spire]

yep

[twilit storm]

This is a Projection (simulation) based on this morning data @viral marsh

[turbid osprey]

100% fox and slickz can get above 2100 today but most likely one of them have to stoo at 209x or lose to get back under 2100 if they dont think they have 75%+ of finishing first

When they both out 100h+ and have the best scores of the event not sure this makes sense

Not saying to change the whole thing but maybe just make it that if 2 players are in a league both get rewards

[viral marsh]

i mean can you share curent placement

[twilit storm]

yes hold my beer

[dull wind]

why is there not a top 3 for each league?

[bronze spire]

because than it cant spread as much. Also wouldnt solve the issue of people missing out

[viral marsh]

if more that 4 will be in diamond, simulation show top-2-3 i think

[viral marsh]

thank you. and 12 hours from now can you show again?

[bronze spire]

interesting forgot it would be differnt from leaderboard

[twilit storm]

sure..2 hours before the final snaphot.

[high snow]

Just to be clear, it doesn't make any sense for me to play? I have the best average in gold, but I can't collect enough points because otherwise I'll be promoted to platinum?

[twilit storm]

we count points not average

average kicks in only for ties

it s in the rules

[high snow]

ok. So it would make more sense to win 1 game and place 5th the one game afterwards so your elo does not climb (you can stay in your division) but accumulate more points? Is this intentional?

[twilit storm]

if you win one game you ll get 7 points. You have 8 players in gold division with more points than you. I don t think one win get you anywhere near the top of the division.

[high snow]

It was a general thought. With the current system you get punished for having a high average, as you reach higher divisions sooner. You spent less time accumulating points so unless you are rank 1 and alone in the division you always loose.

[twilit storm]

For our dynamic leaderboard, high average scores primarily serve as a tie-breaker. Player standing and value are determined by points, which are accumulated through games played.

[high snow]

I get that, that's why playing worse is better 😄

[twilit storm]

you played 16 matches, just one more than the threshold.

thinking average was the metric?

[high snow]

? No I play for top 10 that's it

I just give you my opinion on the format and that I think playing worse is actually beneficial for your system. Of course it isn't for the normal leaderboard. That's why I am rank 10 there with way less games than most others. I just do not have the time to grind 100 games 😄

[ashen mango]

You have the highest average, well done!

[high snow]

thanks 🙂

[high snow]

Just as an idea (did not think to much about it). As far as I remember sometimes the total points and sometimes the average score determines the rank in your events. How about mixing both? So the score could be: "points" x "average score". It would incentivize to play more but playing good would also matter

[twilit storm]

thx for the feedback

[viral marsh]

you have best overage coz you play less game.

i can win 2 game and show my 8 overage. but someone with 100 games and 4.5 overage will be at better spot

[high snow]

That wasn't even the point. But I also have the second highest average score on the normal leaderboard. So what's your point with your 2 games example?

[viral marsh]

you can made photo and put on wall with your overage. but you at 1700 i'm at 2100

as more games you play as less your overage become

[high snow]

why are you so mad? I am fine with my ranking. I was just giving feedback to Quant that's all

[viral marsh]

and i give feedback to your feedback.
he change rules time time. i don't care. now we have grinding event and not: "play 15 games and hold your best overage"

[high snow]

Thanks for that then. I only play when I have time and don't really count how many games I've played during the event, if that's what you were implying.

[tropic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/civil-war-groupchat-garrett-and-andy-star-wars-battle-gif-2612406611531331934

Remember to use Illuvium Arena to fight vs each other and not this chat, ty.

[warm isle]

So I can't get it? I'm gold 1

[twilit storm]

get in ?

[warm isle]

To get division reward my name is in the image you show

[muted iris]

4/8 arena

[warm isle]

Go ask slick to play more

[twilit storm]

what is your ingame name?

[muted iris]

Come come play more

[warm isle]

Aiblaze

[warm isle]

Maybe later need to eat dinner

[muted iris]

I see, enjoy your dinner mate

Have a good day

[frank moon]

so my game started and then crashed. Im unable to reconnect, getting some matchmaking error. Any ideas?

wait some minutes and then it reconnects without the button allright

[twilit storm]

Gauntlet Divisions quick update

[turbid osprey]

@twilit storm even for medium players like me the event format is flawed imo

Right now im #1 in silver for 1.4ilv but i want to continue to play but i cant

Ill concede my participation in the event and continue to play anyway but it feels bad to have to choose between 2 leaderboards that go against each other

[twilit storm]

thx for the feedback

[warm isle]

What is average and points from

[jolly whale]

This rogue meta seems a little too good

Kinda don't even want to play now that everyone spamming rogue teams

[twilit storm]

points are explained in the rules, average is average points per match

#🎨〕community-content message

click the info and rules there

[warm isle]

Ok thank

[twilit storm]

It's a real shame you couldn't get in a few more games. You managed to hit the eligibility threshold just hours ago. With a bit more participation, you truly could have secured a spot among the top rewards in the Gold division.

[turbid osprey]

I play as much as i can regardless of events or rewards

My motivation is getting the best i can for when the competitive fires up

[warm isle]

That is good

[twilit storm]

fair but like in RL..rewards need commitment.

[supple beacon]

As a feedback you could try assigning fixed tier to everyone at the start of the event. So even if you climb or lose a lot, you compete in your original tier

[dull wind]

this is an example of what I was talking yesterday @twilit storm and it's exactly the type of behaviour we don't want to promote. We want to incentivize players playing as much as possible.

[twilit storm]

yes agree, 16 games in 4 days with the last one few hours ago compared to people who played 30 40 isn t playing as much as possible imho

if you want to be rewarded playing the bare minimum is another story, the threshold is 15 games ser

[violet summit]

@spring basin cant believe what I just witnessed 😮

[worn tree]

Hey guys, what are your thoughts on the fact that you can see in real time the opponent placement on the other side of the board?

[violet summit]

holy ****

[twilit storm]

the holy deer

[turbid osprey]

Fantastic. it reduce flippy scenario a ton and enables us to position very well based on what the opponent is doing

This feature is a way to have more skill expression which is always good

[violet summit]

4 aegis is still broken @worn tree

not even with full hyper I stood a chance

[twilit storm]

4 of anything seems broken..beside very few comp so far, try beat 4 vanguards or 4 behe or 4 invokers..or just 4

[violet summit]

Nah, thats not true

there are some composites/synergies which are more broken than others

you can have 10k titanor with 4 aegis

[hot pond]

4 Templar doesn’t do much for example

[violet summit]

its like you're playing leviathan

[twilit storm]

more or less broken..agree...not broken...dunno

but

hey it s not about being "broken"

[violet summit]

but you wont get 4 aegis very often, you need 1 chip + blotto

but when you get it... oh boy

[twilit storm]

they are just OP

[violet summit]

the other day I got this

[twilit storm]

broken is the shield + the right combo of amplifiers

[violet summit]

it was just BRUTAL to watch the enemy team

[twilit storm]

and then you just watch the ranger wiping anything 1 vs 6-7

[violet summit]

I dont like how random those choices are

and some weapons seem to have better amplifiers than others

like stuns, etc

[hot pond]

Are the composite chips in carousel completely rng? In one round there were 2 chips at once and in the other later one there were none.

[violet summit]

I think so, but composites are only possible in 2nd or 3rd carousel right?

[primal flax]

I think all the synergies (composite) that you need the weapon + imprint + s3 illuvial is broken or should be

[hot pond]

Its so bad man. In the one where there were 2 chips i was 2nd place and didnt get shit. In the other one where I was last position there was only crap in it

[primal flax]

Don't need to be insta win, but need to have advantage against easy ones

[spring basin]

Haha yeah that was a crazy game for sure

[violet summit]

I think thats the idea of the carousel, give the lowest HP player a chance to turn around

[hot pond]

I was the lowest HP but there was nothing lol

[violet summit]

thats just unlucky 😄

how would you guys like the carousel to just give composites on 3rd round? 😛

[hot pond]

i still hate the composites in carousel

[violet summit]

every choice is a composite

that would be fun

[violet summit]

I have mixed feelings
sometimes 1 illuvial change can decide the round

so people wait for the last second to move

[spring basin]

It is really good for sure! But if I don't have my t5 stage 3 here I lose this matchup and if you hit dualeph you win.

[violet summit]

yeah, I think so too, with steam the story would be different

[worn tree]

Right, but what about the stress this creates for casual and new players? I’ve seen a lot of beginners already struggling to learn the game’s basics, expecting them to keep track of opponents who are constantly adapting to their placements is just too much.

We’re seriously considering gating this feature behind the scouting mechanic, so players would only learn their next opponent based on their last fight position. And if they want to adapt on latest positioning, they will have to scout.

Essentially, very similar to TFT but in addition in Gauntlet you always know who you are going to fight.

[safe valve]

i don't like it.
Makes autobattler which i experienced as laid back strategy game so far to a hectic fps game

[spring basin]

I do like it! It increases the skill expression in the game instead of every fight being a coin flip, just as Patate said. If you would remove this how are you gonna handle the problem it will create with rouges?

[worn tree]

Exactly, autobattlers are turn-based games. Casual autobattler players aren’t expected to stress themselves out by APM-ing their way to victory. The beauty of gating it behind scouting is that it allows hardcore players to dig deeper if they want to, without adding unnecessary stress for the casual audience. Also, connectivity issues can make this experience worse.

[worn tree]

Last second changes are also coinflips tho

[worn tree]

What problem will it create?

[spring basin]

One of the few issues TFT had where the player base was uppset that vs rouges matches it was just a coinflip

instead they removed the rouges

[worn tree]

Essentially, very similar to TFT but in addition in Gauntlet you always know who you are going to fight.

We don't have that issue here, we know next opponent always. So you can plan ahead.

You see a rogue comp, then you position accordingly. It's just you won't be able to know the exact positioning unless you scout.

You will only see how that player positioned in the previous round.

[spring basin]

you mean you gonna hide it beheind scouting?

[worn tree]

Real time placement behind scouting.

But everyone knows next player.

[safe valve]

well if you always can see who you fight next, i rather have it like it is now.
Won't take away the stress level if you just change from seing livepositioning to scouting necessity

[worn tree]

A casual player barely scouts

[spring basin]

Wouldn't that be a huge disadvantage for the casual? Or is like if he deosn't know it's good?

[safe valve]

i woulnd't say that i'm casual and i do.
Especially if you know who you fight next it feels like a must and not as a could do

[spring basin]

got a game so have to reply later

[safe valve]

i saw that when i played tft and there was this augment where you can see your next opponent.
Not a single round where i didn't scout.
whereas in a normal game i just did like 20% of the matches and more in the endgame

[worn tree]

I guess that's the elephant in the room. In a casual lobby in which nbdy scouts, it's fine. It easens onboarding.

As players get to know the game better, they realize they can scout and check their opponent moves. And that gives them a serious edge.

[worn tree]

It feels like a must if you are familiar with the game and you have +50 or +100 games, but if you are learning it, it might feel too much.

[viral marsh]

don't like it. in autoches you even don't know which opponent you will fight.
you choice best position by overall thinking of other guy position.
how hide in current game from dualeph or rhamphyre? - before we can see live change position it was mind game>go left or right corner, or go frontline etc

[twilit storm]

Yeah it was a very tense moment and decision...positioning based only on oppo behaviour (didi he move last time? is he a corner flipper or a static one? do he wanna me think he will move to lure me into a trap?) good times

[worn tree]

This is also a skill that players can develop and refine, and it's part of the fun, exactly.

We have to add hotkeys to scouting and returning to your board, and solve bugs revolving scouting.

[twilit storm]

now is like poker but with transparent cards 😂

[worn tree]

@valid stirrup @ashen mango @hot pond @violet summit @dull wind @vivid stirrup@frozen tartan and others, keen to know your thoughts too

[warm isle]

Yeah a lot of bug from this

I can't pick in the carousel

Can't move

[worn tree]

We have fixes incoming for it

[warm isle]

Nicw

[worn tree]

thoughts on removing real time placement?

[warm isle]

Real time?

My pc is slow so late game always laggy

Not good for me

And changing items 😅

[worn tree]

Very good point

[warm isle]

But it's good to see who we going to fight

[west plume]

I kinda liked how it was before where you dident know what was coming, adding it to scouting makes it a lot more interesting.

[twilit storm]

@worn tree wen spectator mode? we d love to see the big boys battles while chilling her in discord

[dull wind]

To me the live change positioning was one of the best updates the game had. Maybe it's just me but this game is not at all a laid back strategy game. Until you get good at the game you barely have time to do everything you want to do.

I rather have the game require a bit of APM than a total coin-flip, also previously, changing sides required a lot of APM-ing to change everything from one side of the board to the other. And right now you can change 1,2 illuvials at the last seconds but you can't do an entire team change like it happened before.

[twilit storm]

the problem was there true..i suggested a while ago n esy fix to save time..a button called mirror..to just move all unit in th ther side of the battleboard with one click hahaah Nil u remember ye?

but like that it will end in a side swap fest

[worn tree]

WIP, should be in next release

[twilit storm]

Huge

[valid stirrup]

Hi Nill, the stress comes from not knowing the game — that’s completely normal. New players don’t need to constantly move their units. I believe that as long as they understand the structure and flow of the game — which doesn’t require a lot of repositioning — that’s enough for them. They can win even without making the final move. That’s the difference between being a beginner and becoming a pro.

They don’t need to always adapt to others’ positions, but rather understand why players position differently and what each position is trying to achieve. That final second repositioning adds a dynamic and exciting element to the game. It brings emotion and real-time engagement — letting you read the situation and be prepared.

I don’t think changing this would help at all. In fact, if you implement changes like switching from left to right or other view options, players might end up totally confused.

I recommend keeping it as it is. It’s interactive and allows players to read what the opponent might do next — and be ready to respond.

[high snow]

Hey, Nil I think the change to the realtime positioning was the best change from previous Arena mode to gauntlet. It is much less frustrating than before. As a beginner you will neither scout nor place your units at the last second but at least you can stay on your board. New players will be focused on their own board but can at least see 95% of the enemy positioning ahead of time. Most of the time only one unit gets replaced at the last second. So I would like to keep the feature.

[zenith mortar]

Hey Nil, I like it

[rancid raptor]

i'd leave it as it is, its fine for me, dont change what works imo

[valid stirrup]

5/8

come on to papy

=))

🔥 🔥🔥🔥

[worn tree]

Gentlemen, I have left this thread here to make the official voting: https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1382382151877529762

[safe valve]

Maybe
But what all beginner Tutorial in YouTube had in common when i started with tft was the recommendation of scouting to get an edge over all other beginners.
If that gona be the Same here, which is likely, not sure your statement holds

[worn tree]

Thank you guys for your feedback: @valid stirrup @high snow @rancid raptor @dull wind @west plume @twilit storm @warm isle @viral marsh @safe valve , please refer to this link: https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1382382151877529762

And cast your vote 🙏🏻

[safe valve]

Wrote a thread a while back.
Might be intresting to read the comments @worn tree

#1368520945064738856 message

[hot pond]

I like the direct movement. Much better than before without it

I feel like if we don’t have it, corner comps get even stronger because they can’t move their whole comp in last seconds. With how it is now, you can counter them by playing units on opposite sides to decluster them. Without real time movement it’s a coinflip every turn in which corner they are. It was disgusting in the ascendant mode

Even worse, if you send your rhamphyre in the empty corner he might die to a beam or so instead of taking out the whole clump

[turbid osprey]

yea corner comps wouldnt move most of the time and we would need to sub optimally place to be just ok for any sides which would make corner comps very strong

[granite echo]

I felt like it was more intense when we tried to anticipate the change of placements. I liked it way more.
Also, the placement carried way more weight

[frozen tartan]

#1382382151877529762 message 🫡

[viral marsh]

any idea how play corner comp vs Rhamphyre?

when 1 unit with 2 augs counter/1 shot 150gold build, this build by time become useless. without real sniping this comp at lest have chance to alive.
if you all like play rog/fighter. ok.

[granite echo]

@vivid stirrup did a video on this recently.
Won with corner comp against rhamphyre

[viral marsh]

yes yes. with gold fish. not watch video, but sure he have on corner all need vs rhapmhy not bis items
9/10 games you lose rog

[granite echo]

Idk, i thought you were just asking how to do it

[viral marsh]

do you get in any game 4 harbinger/granit/colossus and invoker? not sure about invoker, they probably die at 1st cast, so they usseles.
most of comp at full trashhold have good bufs.
and what have psion? immune for cc?

[granite echo]

I liked without live placement more

[granite echo]

I usually surround the sensible units with bw, and it is usually enough to survive rhamphyre
Not saying that i like it

[viral marsh]

rog have not only Rhamphy. but vanguard as well which destroy your bulwarks

[vivid stirrup]

another one that works very well against rogues is 7 earth with mud/granite/aegis. The ranger is your win condition if she can have a earth shield with "+ op and damage when other units die" amplification

[viral marsh]

most of rogues play with omnivamp/dmg amp after kill units. so earth not so good

[vivid stirrup]

I've witnessed a different story, multiple times

[spring basin]

👀

[west plume]

👀

[zenith mortar]

👀

[rancid raptor]

👀

[turbid osprey]

👀

[safe valve]

👀

[viral marsh]

mud/earth win 0 round vs my rog.

[viral marsh]

but if you hear story about mud/shield/weapon amplifier/colossus. it's different story

[warm isle]

Gg man

Close game

In how long for the reward for this week

Thanks going to sleep good game that slashin range carried me

[high snow]

hi @twilit storm can we get an update for the event pls 😬

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

@high snow in one hour last one before final snapshot (23:59 UTC)

[violet summit]

can we nerf this amplifiers please?

this is absolutely ridiculous, one ranger with a defense weapon dealing 10x the dmg of the entire team

[dull wind]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-fine-gif-2111938766984055524

[twilit storm]

Gauntlet Divisions last snapshot before the final one (taken at 23:59 UTC)

[worn tree]

Incoming

[void dust]

To answer the question of real time reaction or not - I think Illuvium first needs to answer the question - what are we building? If you are building the most intense competitive game with RTS clicking and very little downtime (this is the direction I've seen you moving lately) then real time reaction should stay in. If instead, you are building a more moderate competitive game that can be fun and still offer strategy to a broader player base, then consider taking it out (it can always come back later). But, what I'm saying is that you need to know what you are building and then make decisions to reach that goal.

I see a period of flux right now and I'm unsure of the goal.

FTR - I am not for this starcraft like play. I'm too old for this shite.

[sinful hornet]

it's not about removing it it's about moving it so you don't see it on ur own board, but only when you move / scout to opponents board

[void dust]

Well, then it doesn't matter at all.

[hollow orbit]

Will the bug that may prevent us from moving properly in the carousel after checking the enemy's board be fixed soon?

I'm afraid of this bug, so I don't go to the enemy's base to watch very often.

If I check the enemy's board before the carousel, I take the trouble to reconnect before the carousel starts. (This means sacrificing rerolls and consideration time in some rounds.)
@worn tree

[viral marsh]

magic of numbers, bles rng, just 2 more top-1

[spring basin]

@twilit storm Can you show score? 🙏

[spring basin]

Thanks! 🔥 So with other words the race is over because fox can't catch me?

[ashen mango]

Well done @arctic steppe you have an amazing average

[viral marsh]

if i got game with crimson now, then yes, race done. 6/8

[woeful pawn]

theres is a place to check this ?

[twilit storm]

no, it s a sheet provided to organizers by Illuvium team.

[spring basin]

So what did you get 👀

[viral marsh]

get 2nd place

[woeful pawn]

oh i see thanks

[spring basin]

I ment what region?

[woeful pawn]

congratz

[viral marsh]

to late. even with crimson not enough time. i have to get top-2. and it's 350sec que time

but i just have best game for today. 100hp.

just build this every game and don't afraid 4 behemoth/ 4 granit

[bronze spire]

respect for trying mad man lol

[hot pond]

nerf that fking reflect shield man. Literally the most broken weapon

[bronze spire]

agreed. Nil said its on thwe way

[hot pond]

so disgusting. I lost basically with full S3 team 3 vanguards and behemoths because of a stupid shield

[bronze spire]

its also such a free early game too

[hot pond]

he was also level 7 only while i was 9. what a joke

[hot pond]

its like pre patch adaptive reflection on steroids lol

[ashen mango]

Did he have the omnivamp buff on vanquish augment?

[arctic steppe]

thanks man, Now I'm able to put more time in Illuvium, I'm happy to be progressing little by little

[hot pond]

not sure

[frozen tartan]

@umbral oracle Hey there!
Today I played Teamfight Tactics for the very first time. I had never touched it before — not even once. Just wanted to jot down some initial impressions.

One thing that pleasantly surprised me was the full localization. Not just translated text, but full voice-over as well — that’s impressive.

But the graphics… I hope TFT fans will forgive me, but the visuals feel really outdated. The UI, the overall style — it all looks like something from a decade ago.

This experience made me even more confident that Illuvium is truly on track to become the #1 auto-battler in the world. Once the remaining bugs are patched and proper language support is added, it’s going to be a force to reckon with.

And yes — I’m one of those people who really care about visuals. I’ve had my fill of Tetris back in childhood.

[south geyser]

The graphics in TFT may not be as pretty, but the game runs on ANYTHING. Illuvium's 2 greatest detractors atm are the fact that you need a super computer to run it smoothly and that the learning curve is too steep for casual onboarding.

[ashen mango]

To be fair TFT's onboarding is hard too imo

[south geyser]

Perhaps, but it did have the advantage of LoL's entire fanbase to draw from

[ashen mango]

I don't know LoL's universe very well and I never know what to do when I come back after a while, I need to rely on 3rd party websites to give me comps that I can spam

[frozen tartan]

TFT probably won’t run on a pregnancy test.
Doom will.
But that doesn’t mean Doom is still relevant.

It’s 2025 — games are expected to look good.

[south geyser]

You may find that you're in a smaller camp than you think on that front

[frozen tartan]

You're absolutely right — the traffic from LoL fuels TFT.

[south geyser]

Games are expected to be fun first, look good after

[frozen tartan]

It doesn’t bother me — I say what I want.
Graphics are incredibly important to me in games. If they’re not that important to you — that’s fine.

But it honestly pains me to look at what most Web3 projects are calling “games” these days.
Okay, not all of them — but a huge portion.

It’s a real shame that Dota Underlords died.
From day one, it had such a unique and immersive atmosphere.
Playing with Dota 2 characters in that format was genuinely fun.

Now, I’m experiencing something similar — I’ve been with Illuvium since the very beginning.
And now I’m playing those same characters in the auto-battler.

[south geyser]

I agree that most web3 lack the polish that makes for a sellable title

[frozen tartan]

I think most Web3 games are just simple one-day pyramid schemes.

They spend money on flashy trailers.
Create social media accounts and fake activity.
Hire a few freelance students.
Draw up a 5–10+ year roadmap.
Talk about some kind of breakthrough.
Raise funds.

Then release some pixelated trash.
And die off.

[fluid raptor]

illuvium is totally better but I still have doubts that when the game launches for casual players with ads and better rewards, if the new players will be able to keep up. most of them are used to click on daily check-in rewards 😛 we barely have enough time to do all the stuff between rounds XD and losing some rounds due to it 😛

[frozen tartan]

Lately, the situation has changed — for the worse.
Many projects no longer just make pixelated games; they use Unreal Engine 5 for their trailers and presentations.
This strongly attracts inexperienced investors.
But the outcome is usually the same: raise money and then shut down the project.

Illuvium is a unique project because it survived a terrible market phase and didn’t die — it actually grew.

This isn’t about liking Illuvium, it’s just a fact.
Every 2–3 months, the game takes a huge step forward.

After the latest updates, Gauntlet has become a very competitive game.
Yes, there are still bugs, but I don’t think we’ll have to wait long for a hotfix.

[frozen tartan]

Beginner’s Guide:
1️⃣ Want to earn ILV tokens?
Set aside some time to build up your muscle memory.

2️⃣ Not enough time or motivation? Earn less.

I chose the second option. I don’t have enough time to live in Gauntlet.

[fluid raptor]

so what I think is some simplification is required for a larger player base. for now yes we 50-100 of us are playing active but it will be a problem for casual player

[twilit storm]

The "Gauntlet Divisions Season 1" has officially concluded

What an incredible four days of battles it's been, across every single division. We saw fierce competition and amazing dedication.

A huge congratulations to the fifteen Rangers who earned their well-deserved rewards. Your efforts truly paid off.

A massive thank you to everyone who participated, and a special shout-out for all the valuable feedback you provided. We're always committed to enhancing your gaming experience, and we appreciate your support

Important Information for All Winners:

To ensure you receive your well-deserved rewards, we kindly ask every player on the winners list to send us a Direct Message (DM) with the following essential details:

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[fluid raptor]

I am not there what a surprise XDDD

gz @spring basin

in a perfect world, where the diamonds fight with diamonds, platiniums fight with each other, and with a larger player base, this system would work nice

[twilit storm]

We do what we can with what we have, thx btw.

[frozen tartan]

@spring basin Congrats 🏆

[gilded axle]

uhul !!

nice!!

[south geyser]

Absolutely. I'm not new at all to this genre, but the massive number of items, the multilayered synergy depth, AND the hyper system all together make the game mind numbingly daunting to pick up. I can't imagine staring down the barrel of this title without any auto battler experience.

[open ibex]

Alright, new week.
Anyone stuck in queue?

[ivory saddle]

I thought we are getting a soft reset?

[zenith mortar]

There is a glitch in the scoreboard bro

[zenith mortar]

Might be bugged will check on itn

[zenith mortar]

This is bull where is my name I demand a recount

[open ibex]

should i stop queuing first?

[calm raven]

Is safe to play now?

Or we are in the cursed hour?

[open ibex]

6/8, not sure yet

[zenith mortar]

There is a new companion website coming to help you ser

Actually it's live

But in alpha 😆

[worldly remnant]

is the reset today or tomorrow?

[rancid raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-thank-you-gif-22355336

theres so much clicking i play 1 game and i need a rest

[warm isle]

They fought each other a lot 😆

[fluid raptor]

because 1 of 2 games we all see them XD

if there are 3 players in game those are not in first 10-20, I say oh I can be 4th and dont lose points

[fluid raptor]

you are the original one right? XDDD

[fluid raptor]

it does not feel like auto-battler since even while illuvials are fighting you are doing something else XD

I would prefer a relaxed version of this which is not longer than 40 mins, with same strategy dept.

there is no point to relax in-game, which does not feel like autobattler XD

seeing enemy's positioning was a mistake imo

guessing it is a lot more relaxing and also mind game

you lock up all the time, no time to relax

so older version in this case was a lot better imo

that was more of a mind game but reflex game

you calculate the enemy's move, position your team, then when the curtain is lift, the thing happens

like chess

you dont see what enemy is about to do until he moves the piece and hit the clock

but for this, you have to do a lot of moves in order to make it in time so enemy is seein your move

it is like reading mind

[south geyser]

Well, that's it for a while for me...someone somehow having a ranger that can 1v5 carry is honestly a bit bullshit, lol

[warm isle]

What weapon he use

[fluid raptor]

probably the shield. with correct augments it can kill 5-6 illuvials alone

best circumstances it can solo a whole endgame team

idea is good but some restrictions are required for that item

rather than changing, it should be limitted

like the blademail in dota

a nyx with 6 blademails was imbossible to kill (talking about early 2000's XD )

it should at least reflect %20 of the damage it has taken