🎮〕illuvium-arena

[tropic forge]

I was 13th, dropped to 22 last week because i really feel like i'm not playing to win

[bronze spire]

didnt everyone hate vertical rogs?

[sinful hornet]

when they're broken sure

[tropic forge]

doing crazy shits trying to enjoy the game, but it's worthless.

Is go with the broken, or lose a lot and end feeling bad.

[bronze spire]

id say you arent casual or low elo, you are experiencing what its like it most games at top elo

[sinful hornet]

i think they shot themselves with the smurfs ban, u could've had people at the top play smurfs to test

[cyan olive]

ok, so it is same as in ascendant, when 1-2 rogues were "op" splash, like just put in lura/rhampy and kill some backline, other guy has to giga position or flip side

[sinful hornet]

other guy has no counterplay now he has to choose what he gets fucked by

[cyan olive]

arcanite was kinda liek that as well

[bronze spire]

i think it makes the game more interesting that you have to consider using 1-2 rogues and positioning against it. Prefer this over vertical rogues being meta

[cyan olive]

I got a game, what com p do I play hollow^^

[bronze spire]

see a lot of people using 1-2 rogues as a liability too

[sinful hornet]

but it doesn't, there's loulura + fernite + synalph or pho and goliant in a team how do u position with psyons

u can't, u either stat check them or not

[sinful hornet]

5 bulwarks + 2 psyons + 2 empaths~ or 5 bulwarks+ templars and a pho and loura

meanwhile everyone complains about corner comps but that's the most grief positioning vs anything with no rogues

[cyan olive]

game feels giga laggy uff

[sinful hornet]

not for me

[bronze spire]

i dont play psions lol

but if this didnt counter it than couldnt you just say the same thing in reverse

[spring basin]

I'm not sure what the player quality was like when you played, but people have gotten better, and the standard is much higher than when I started. I'd say most players in the top 50 can beat me if RNG favors them or if I underperform. That said, it also has to do with agency being pretty low at the moment.

[bronze spire]

yea this is kind of my point

the rogues dont do as well vs fighters. Kind of just gives them free pathing onto opponents fighter

[sinful hornet]

i mean i agree with this but because game agency got lower

[tropic forge]

Yeah, this is also true. But i don't really care to play vs 10000 good players as long as i have fun and the game doesn't go about who goes the most broken OP build and RNG only. I know, balance is hard, is hard to get a game where all classes and comps get to be equilibrated, but at least, they should have a % chance on winning. Right now, there are classes and comps that are useless, and like 3-4 fixed comps on every game. How do you measure a player's level or a good challenge with the game as it is?

[sinful hornet]

there will never be a top of any ladder ever where people don't play the most broken build

the thing i don't get is how the fuck they basically nailed almost perfect balance on the first gauntlet patch and then it just kept getting fucked

[tropic forge]

This. I'll be more than happy with this.

[sinful hornet]

tbh the rewards for top are barely good for top 1 if u had to play all day, it's decent for 2nd and 3rd only because now u can just do the 15 games weekly

also you get drawn into 1 raffle and u made more than if u were 2nd for the whole month KEKW

[cyan olive]

yeah that depends on pov, poor asia etc. sees that differently

[sinful hornet]

i mean do they tho, don't they get more in axie still for way lower place?

u gonna stream some games?

[cyan olive]

tbh I get cancer atm by how clunky it feels compared to tft 😅

[sinful hornet]

ye that's true

Any chance for a ladder reset next thursday into patch into leviathan the week after?

[cyan olive]

the clunky part is super crazy uff, was playing tft last 2 weeks and I can buy/sell new team in a turn

and reasonable rolldown holding extra stuff

[sinful hornet]

u know there's sell push reroll keybinds?

[cyan olive]

I did find it mid game

but still feels tougher

[sinful hornet]

i can do a full rolldown here

i'm not sure if u're actually just turbo lagging

[cyan olive]

could be

[tropic forge]

are there news on when Leviathan is ready?

[sinful hornet]

no

tbh on testnet they kinda changed that i think there's legit not enough time for a rolldown after pve now

[tropic forge]

No reset, no balance... no leviathan? hmm... time to finish Clair Obscure 😆

[sinful hornet]

we're probably getting patch in 2 days after tournament, but would still hope they sneak in some balance changes too otherwise not much changes

[tropic forge]

i'll wait for some balance then. Tbh i rage inside vs these bulk comps 🤣

i want to throw my keyboard to those Singes and do some real damage 😆

[cyan olive]

depends btw, farming abs exp is pretty "good/easy" thing atm, couple new p2e events/games every now and then, some do ask for not 0 capital investment though

some p2e stuff also has more barriers like go rent things etc.

if you are down to invest time and are smart person Kaito is better anyways for making money atm

compared to playing some low end p2e

or you can do the more competitive games tourament scene, which is the best if you are good at the games

[sinful hornet]

i just saw the tft league or whatver they're gonna do, too bad the set looks trash

[cyan olive]

I haven´t see that yet

Set isn´t great, but ok I think

still a very polished game at least, but prob somewhat reroll heavy meta all set

5costs are cool designed, 4costs kinda low effort

[cyan olive]

I think I can´t even if I wanted to, currently on old pc, don´t think it can play ILV+stream

especially if game already feels laggy without stream 😅

[frank moon]

come on I started playing arena by watching your streams

[sinful hornet]

ohhh that answers lag, this game still has insane nasa computer requirment

[cyan olive]

my "new"pc hopefully soon back from repair

been having issues with it for 2 months

think they have to replace gpu

so I pray they have one there

is there a spreadsheet for the weapons btw?

[sinful hornet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_g_zQRvHB45MxPhCdUJ_bh9acK2A2hfYhJ79RslFsm0/edit?pli=1&gid=451922551#gid=451922551

[cyan olive]

Thx

[twilit storm]

@cyan olive glad you are back ingame ser, should we call you "trashbird" for life or do you think you ll reveal yourself? 😂

[cyan olive]

How have I missed the nice people of this community 😊

[spring basin]

Yeah, I do agree that a flexible meta is much better for everyone. However, we also need to keep in mind that Nil has been on vacation, and the rest of the dev team has been working on the new patch. The main issue is that Bulwarks are too good, and some of the units, augments and items need polishing but that's something they can fix 🙏

[uncut comet]

+7 and they both combined have 1300+ elo more then me and for 5. i would prob lost 25+ again

[spring basin]

Lobby avereage is still low. It's basicly a free top 4. Do you think you should earn more points for beating a lobby with an avereage of like 1900 when you are 2294?

[bronze spire]

true but i suspect if you see bottom 4 the average is low

unlucky lobby though for sure

[uncut comet]

how much did u got for 1st and how much u get for 2nd also +7 +13 ?

[bronze spire]

he would only ever get 13

im much lower and never more han 13 even with a decent lobby

[sinful hornet]

i don't think there's any lobby in the game wher eu can get more than +13

even if u somehow hit top 7+u

[bronze spire]

i was about to say that haha

[sinful hornet]

the actual difference happens on - points for losing

i've had 36 and i've had 50 loss on 5th

on about the same elo for myself

[spring basin]

Yeah wins are always the minimum for me and have been like the past 170 games or so

[uncut comet]

i mean it should be even less its like rank 1 challenger in league gets same points like master player and never get capped if u just keep playing impossible to catch up

[bronze spire]

he would lose more tho

[spring basin]

You are complaning about how little you get when winning and how much you lose when you lose. You do understand that would make it even worse for you to?

The ppl under you in ranking feels the sameway so it's a snowball effect

With the current players base there is no ideal fix to this and what we have is in my opinion the best solution

[uncut comet]

yeah whatever didnt wanted to offense u , i understand that with how the system work atm just said in an ideal way

[bronze spire]

imo everyone is in the position they deserve. I dont see anyone that is wrongly placed when considering games played (time put in) and average place/win rate (skill). Its working really well. Only criticism is the way the elo gain/losses "feel" but this cant be avoided

[spring basin]

No worries, I didn’t get offended because there was no ill will ☺️ There’s nothing wrong with having a conversation where two people think different things are good, as long as you stick to facts and avoid insults 🙏

[cyan olive]

The feeling thing is tough though.
If people feel bad in theory doesn´t matter if system is fair and perfect, if they perceive it poorly it might as well be.

(Not saying I have a solution)

It is like if some team has a bad winrate, but people hate loosing to it, still kinda correct to nerf/disable it.

[bronze spire]

yea maybe i also shouldnt say cant be avoided i dont know that for sure. Also we established atleast two of the people complaining about the "feel" are actually top 15 and top 15 in most games generally doesnt feel great win/loss amounts

[cyan olive]

yeah, usually in this space many who are top 100 or better are "new" to that feeling on how mmr gain/lose etc. work there.

[bronze spire]

yea or even new to the genre, not to ignore the feedback or anything but has to be noted some times

[cyan olive]

yeah, hard part is figuring out a balance/system that works for current playerbase, maybe if it goes to 500DAU things feel different again

but need to get there 😅

[bronze spire]

wonder what it was first 1-2 weeks

of rewards. Seemed to be maybe 3-6 games on at most times

[cyan olive]

3-6 sounds decent, 8-player lobby big hurdle in general in that sense

maybe good AI bots are the solution 😅

[bronze spire]

we had a few bots haha

they gave up after a few days or being called out

[cyan olive]

yeah, but I mean elo-skill adjusted

games also do that

[bronze spire]

yea

[cyan olive]

ah lul

[spring basin]

I do agree with this, and I see your point. But if there’s no good solution right now because we need more players, which will likely come, then what are the possible outcomes? If you open things up more for those who feel negatively, it might strengthen their bad feelings and the feeling will spread to others. But if you explain the situation and help people understand why things are the way they are, and that we have to make the best of it, the negative feelings likely won’t be as strong. It’s just as you said. People’s feelings can fluctuate, and they’re often based more on perception than on how things actually are.

[winter breach]

ranked 4/8

[cyan olive]

Yeah guiding the perception is the difficult part.
That´s why the core was are people unhappy cause of mmr number or cause of rank or cause of rewards, then you can address that thing.

If it is rank, then this atm is totally fine, could even be argued that top 4 shouldn´t be a secured gain, maybe you e.g. should be + on 1st minus on 2nd even cause so far higher than the rest.
Autochess early days had lobbies like that, your hidden rating prob goes minus on 3rd maybe on 2nd even atm.

So for ranking, if you want to make the climb infinite not a thing, that´s one extreme, 2nd 3rd 4th could be negative points.

[twilit storm]

maybe not 2nd 3rd but from 4th onward can help to prevent infinite climbing ye

[cyan olive]

Using the "hidden" rating for gains/lose would eventually make you get +0,1 or lower on 1st, using that is most extreme, can obv do inbetween.

That is what 1v1 system was

and why people saw +0 instead of +0,X

[twilit storm]

more granular, interesting

[spring basin]

Wouldn't that make the problem worse? Most people are complaining about losing points and feeling like they have to play for hours just to earn them back. If you look at people’s average rank, a system like this would make things a lot worse for almost everyone. I think the high negative points for bottom 4 are keeping the grind in check to a good degree. You don’t have to play 12+ hours a day to maintain your rank, but you still need to keep playing to defend it. If you wanna climb you have to improve your average, or play more. Isn’t that what good balance looks like?

[cyan olive]

I didn´t suggest let´s do this.

The current thing enforces a min + on 1-2-3-4 bt has uncapped loses? on 5th and below?

If rank is the worry, the min gains are a problem for those

if point lose on 5th or below is an issue, you could cap how much they can lose/cap it lower than atm

[tropic forge]

To be honest, i kinda feel like the actual system is not the best, but it does gives you the need of being top 4 in ALL games, which is fine, a game -25 could mean u need to win 2 games on first, which is hard.. but achievable. In fact, if u are a good player, u will end up with 90% top 4,assuming u can get 2 games on 1st, it kinda gives u the sense of pregressing.
The big deal, is when this system meets the actual game state, where ANY player, with basic knowledge of the game and a solid comp, can beat a pro as Slickz for instance, without a big strat, unit positioning , etc. So, getting like 3 5th places in 10 games is totally possible, and that's when u start wondering that there's something wrong about the game.

I mean, the balance of the actual game is the real problem, the ELO system just reflects that in your face.

[cyan olive]

elo system issue is more playerbase thing to be fair

[tropic forge]

sure.

[sinful hornet]

there is not a single change u can probably do that gets rid of the people complaining because they'd be stuck in about the same ranks either way

[cyan olive]

just lobbies are very unbalanced and people hidden rating=/ shown, cause the enfored gains on top 4, so the difference grows and then 5th and below big minus

[cyan olive]

yeah, but maybe people feel better if 5th is max minus 15 or so, idk

[sinful hornet]

ye you would but then u'd have the tradeoff be that the top 3 difference grows

[cyan olive]

not sure, if they never bot 4, this wouldn´t help them 😅

[tropic forge]

In my case i'm not complaining about rank, i can humble assure you, i would be still at 10-15 rank (which i'm totally comfortable at) if i had followed the 3-4 actual comps that people play right now. I've never, NEVER played a single bulk 5 comp.
I always try to find new refreshing builds as the game goes on, and i managed to top 13 , until all lobbies started filling with 5bulk and the killer monkeys...

this, is not a coincidence, i can assure you. People didn't get better in 1 week.

[sinful hornet]

on this patch u can easily eat a 5th even if u're the best player

6th and below really hard

[cyan olive]

yeah patches can always suck

[twilit storm]

An average player can sometimes beat top players just coz he has the RnG Gods on his side giving him the perfect Augs

[tropic forge]

So, my complain is about, i can't get fun or commitement anymore to a game that forces you to play 3 builds, or lose rank. I honestly tried, but can't.

[cyan olive]

idk, just making suggestions to the topic, as the 5th or below and then erase day worth of playing thing does suck for many

[sinful hornet]

this is not a thing in competitive, you usually have to play what's best or you're griefing

[cyan olive]

You could argue to team, that they should allow smurf accs for that sake.

or just make one and don´t tell 😅

[tropic forge]

in "competitive"..., things are not broken as this game is right now

i´ve played Dota 2 for like 10years, 8K MMR, i know what a competitive META game is , and trust me, this isn´t

[sinful hornet]

ye but u can't compare moba metas to strategy games meta

[tropic forge]

Anyway, i´m a "new" player in Arena, this is my first Arena month even if i´m playing Illuvium (Overworld) since launch. I love the game a lot, i would like to spend a lot more hours in Illuvium, but a proper balance is needed for that to happen, and i´m sure this is a lot of player´s sentiment right now.

[sinful hornet]

in every card game and autobattler it's the same as gauntlet

[cyan olive]

Some regions do some very niche comps in TFT often, but obv can´t hold to that standard atm.

[sinful hornet]

sometimes they hit godlike metas with 5~ playable decks/comps on about same power levels but it's not often

[cyan olive]

TFT has many comps, cause components, augments, galaxies

same in HS-BG

[sinful hornet]

ye but tft has like double the units

[cyan olive]

the ingame-events things shift whats good and bad for people

[cyan olive]

yes, but still more about the galaxies/augments pushing different "meta" to each palyer each game

[sinful hornet]

yea but u can just think of it as different patches - ish, u already know based on galaxy what's good

i mean we're gonna probably get some variety with the emblems, but it could very well just turn the game into a complete fiesta too

[tropic forge]

My feedback as a cave man would be "Hey, i was having looooot of Fun before last patch, trying lot of different comps vs players with different comps, and climbing the leaderboard..." Suddenly, week 3 started with a new patch, and people started playing bulwark 5 comp, and monkey comp, and my fun went to hell" ... what happened?!

[cyan olive]

for some yeah, some others push like an emblem to people though

augments and components make you go very different comps or modify units even, like imagine Atlas line turning into dps

from what I saw in posts/watching people those kinda augments/galaxies don´t exist

which is like the main thing giving TFT replayability/has people do more than 1-2 comps for everyone

even here, could have augments giga buffing empath/psion/fighter/rogue builds, giving way more money to make phantom rhampyhre or w.e. more accessible and similar

[sinful hornet]

we're getting galaxies next patch, but it's +30 starting hp, +2 dmg per loss, no change and other stuff i didn't see

[cyan olive]

then you have bunch of different lines people are supposed to take

[cyan olive]

yeah saw that, was disappointed about the lazy effects, but it is a start

[sinful hornet]

and the thing is they +30 hp is so useless cuz there's no units in the pool to do anything with it

[twilit storm]

@sinful hornet tried last night with Rich

[cyan olive]

augments and components/items shift more than galaxie anyways

galaxie like you said mroe different patch

[twilit storm]

some regions are really wild

[sinful hornet]

what else is there?

[regal hound]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_g_zQRvHB45MxPhCdUJ_bh9acK2A2hfYhJ79RslFsm0/edit?pli=1&gid=307088833#gid=307088833&range=A1

[sinful hornet]

oh some of these are nice

[cyan olive]

yeah, but some also narrow down the "good" teams I think

[twilit storm]

we tried abyssal basin..was crazy

all players had 3 bulwark chip at start lol

[safe valve]

All get the Same? Is it a Bug?

[cyan olive]

hopefully

[twilit storm]

I hope so

coz was a total mess

[regal hound]

Bulwark Basin

[twilit storm]

3 random all being 3 bulwark is pretty weird

[safe valve]

3 also sounds Like an Overkill... 1 probably would do the job

[twilit storm]

ofc

[sinful hornet]

Any chance we can get the gold bug fixed on next patch?

[safe valve]

With all other Emblem opportunities you could run 7 figthers or so, without actually having a single figther in the comp 😂

[twilit storm]

+30 drone HP is not bad...really opens the way to late game comps, but the match last a "bit" more

[cyan olive]

not if everyone wants to buy same lategame comp

[sinful hornet]

no cuz there's no units, if u wait for late game u have nothing to buy

[twilit storm]

if the shop works..and units get back into it..you ll have them

Crystal Shores is the one I do not understand completely lol

[sinful hornet]

crystal shores should've been default map

[twilit storm]

Halycion is wild for high strategic brains, huge cash for early losing streaks is 🍞

there is no default map

[winter breach]

6/8 ranked

[twilit storm]

that s the beauty of the "spinning wheel"

[tropic forge]

Ok, trying my 1st bulwark 5 comp for testing. THIS GAME IS BROKEN. Please, fix this. I´ve just thrown 5 random bulk units and 1.5K damage each, wtf!!

[twilit storm]

I do really like the new bottom left button "spectate" so you can watch the game even if you are kicked out early

[west plume]

Testnet build can't come
Soon enough to main net,

[sinful hornet]

i mean it hopefully gets some balance changes

[tropic forge]

Perfectly balanced 😱

[twilit storm]

Singe God Mode activated

that aug is so broken

[tropic forge]

1 tier 4 unit, 2 good augments, the guy Godrolled the game.

[twilit storm]

adaptive+blightfire

not even funny

[tropic forge]

Look at the other Illuvial dmg... a joke. That was like at round 16... i literally masacred his whole team and this guy alone killed all my units... cmon man...

[twilit storm]

wait..the second is artic dominion..not blightfire, correct?

[tropic forge]

and i tested this bulwark 5 with 5 random bulwark and won like 5 rounds in a row.

[tropic forge]

yeah

artic.

[twilit storm]

adaptive carries then

[tropic forge]

we need balance team, for real.

[sinful hornet]

no it's the 10 resists for everyone targetting and 200 hp

[tropic forge]

yeah, that one

[sinful hornet]

they need to revert the teantee nerf and transfer it to grilla

[tropic forge]

Grilla + Bulwark + Augments. the 3 Broken Gods of Illuvium

[twilit storm]

in Dota you can vote "ban" units before game starts, right?

[tropic forge]

sure

[twilit storm]

what if we can do vote "ban" augs in Gauntlet?

[tropic forge]

Hmm, i like the idea.

buuut, first we have to fix em 🤣

for instance, adaptive makes sense, but needs to be reworked - balanced. Also the one that gives true sight and some other.

the broken ones is the big deal, and the useless ones. As i say, balance fixes most of actual gameplay problems. Too much OP - Shitty disparity

[frank moon]

@sinful hornet impressive how you got that exalted grilla so fast while +/- 8 were blocked

[sinful hornet]

ye 8 were blocked by me

[twilit storm]

Velthrax (true sight + 40% piercing + 40% attack speed uh?

[frank moon]

great rng on finding them when so many players were hoarding them. Same for seeforus. I will keep calling the shop rigged anyway

[twilit storm]

I called it months ago...shop and weapons are broken.

[sinful hornet]

every player in that lobby was braindead

[frank moon]

I don't think anyone is looking around/scouting

[sinful hornet]

can't believe the guy with 70 gold at lvl 5 foudn the grilla over the guys at lvl 6 with 20 gold

[frank moon]

you get an underlying VIP score based on how many games you play that affects your RNG

try selling tokens and you will never see a grilla again

[twilit storm]

you can see how many gold the player has now?

[sinful hornet]

no but u can somewhat count

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-gif-13294339

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cruise-dustin-hoffman-rain-man-don’t-start-bang-head-gif-6006016732165342144

[vivid stirrup]

wen enemy credit scores

[tropic forge]

So, according to latest announcement, and considering there are no "Seasons"... then leaderboard ´s never going to reset? What are the plans for this month ?

[zenith mortar]

Ranks will be reset

Not sure when yet

But it's already being discussed

[sinful hornet]

on new patch would be pretty good timing

[raven obsidian]

a nice feature for region selection would be a spinning wheel for 3 regions and then players vote which of the 3 they prefer

[west plume]

a bit rude

greyed me out like i lost the last match when i still had health left and couldent buy anything

[spring basin]

Yeah, I agree 👍 A reset with the new patch would be good timing. Just don’t rush it because a few people are impatient. Make sure the patch is bug-free, balanced, and fun to play, then we can start the new season. If possible placement matches would be nice to have also 🙏

[tropic forge]

Yeah, happened to me , funny like only 1 game so it´s a really uncommon bug.

[west plume]

i was already losing,and this was just an extra kick in the nut

[tropic forge]

Yeah, it´s demoralizing to see everything grey like if the game ´s telling u "no hope for u my friend" 🤣

[winter breach]

Hey mate, good to see you around earlier (:

I got rekt but that's irrelevant

[west plume]

I thought it was you, have you been playing the testnet version?

[winter breach]

I've had no time to play since 7 months, that was My first login:)

Hope ur doing good

[native mauve]

testnet XKV4ZG

starting in 2 min casual

[west plume]

Ah ok,great tonuave you back.
What was your first thoughts?

[zenith mortar]

it knew you were gonna lose

[west plume]

Thank you Rich

[ebon flume]

Test Net boys

[cyan olive]

TFT had and then removed this 😅

[zenith mortar]

@spring basin @viral marsh @sinful hornet @hot pond @ashen mango @bronze spire @dusty tinsel @haughty lintel @summer frigate
Top 9 Can you make the tournament on Sat https://discord.com/events/760344898200666112/1366948636734525480

[sinful hornet]

ye

[zenith mortar]

@valid stirrup @uncut comet @ivory saddle @primal flax @lyric flint @high snow

[hot pond]

I’ll be there

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/perfectlysplendid-goodanswer-clapping-hands-excited-gif-18827657

[native mauve]

testnet anyone?

BG9M7F

[haughty lintel]

Yes 👍

[dusty tinsel]

Yes sir

[ashen mango]

Thanks for the 3500 guaranteed fuel 🫡

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/хомяк-хомячок-огурец-hamster-cucumber-gif-25646690

[sinful hornet]

thanks for the guaranteed 50 ILV

[void dust]

Nice conversations to read through!

I'd suggest hiding true MMR and have a rank climbing that resets every "season" which would be either monthly or weekly and just have players climb up bronze/silver/gold etc. The casuals then just get stuck in wooden league. Maybe then add a "top tier" that has a pool of the best players ranked with a simple number - 1 for the best player, 2 for second best etc. while keeping the actual MMR hidden. I've always found these systems to help players psychologically.

I would also align major patches with the season reset. It helps players identify the different top players based on that season's meta.

Also, it's essential to not let the meta get stale like this. As a player you can watch the game die when patches are sparse and the meta is "solved" to a degree. Interest will immediately pick up once a new patch drops.

[native mauve]

testnet 6/8 BG9M7F

[uncut comet]

si si amigo

[primal flax]

I can

[static crane]

7RCRNA

Testnet casual

[high snow]

Unfortunately the announcement was too late 😦 I already agreed going to a barbecue party 😄

[zenith mortar]

Sorry m8 tried to announce earlier

will do better next time

[high snow]

No worries, I will try to take part in the next one. Wish you guys a lot of fun and an awesome event!

[west plume]

Sounds like there is a spot open Rich

[spring basin]

Yes 🙏

[zenith mortar]

whos 17

@violet summit

[raven obsidian]

any testnet games going?

[spring basin]

I would be down for testnet

I can see if I can gather some ppl

[raven obsidian]

@zenith mortar wana try redeem yourself??

[west plume]

iam up for some Testnet

[raven obsidian]

Casual Testnet - Lets gooo

ST6PS9

lars summon some people

[west plume]

🫡

[raven obsidian]

4/8 for testnet

[spring basin]

What ppl are usually playing testnet? We could tag a couple

[tropic forge]

2nd place again for that F&%&ing Adaptive + Resistant on Singe... Frustration ++!

[raven obsidian]

wana play testnet ?

[raven obsidian]

im not sure, i havent played much recently

[tropic forge]

Sorry been playing a lot this morning. gonna take a breath of fresh air and scream to the Seven Winds : Adaptive Ref. is brokeeeeeeeeeeen 🤣 !!!

[static crane]

i'd like to go as 4

[west plume]

Yep

[raven obsidian]

no worries

okay starting now

[spring basin]

Oh are we getting legendary agument first round now? 😮

[west plume]

love the region rewards

[raven obsidian]

thats the shardbluff region reward

[violet summit]

I'm in!

So I don't need to play tomorrow the sit n go?

[zenith mortar]

you dont have to no

youre qualified

[violet summit]

Alright, I had made plans to be available during that time so I will be free now
Awesome news

Thank you

[zenith mortar]

Good luck to those who face you

[violet summit]

I need to play testnet now, lots of new features to test and new UI

[zenith mortar]

the tournament isnt on testnet

its on mainnet build

tesnet wont go to mainnet until next week at least

[west plume]

[tropic forge]

I´ll be hibernating this week , can´t wait for a new patch to cry about people beating me with OP stuff 🤣 🤣

[west plume]

what weapon is predator again?

nevermind,i checked Pinned

[raven obsidian]

well i got rekt

spectator mode 👀

damn lars, that ryplance is a beast

[zenith mortar]

hahah pretty nice eh

[raven obsidian]

bruh this patch is sick

[zenith mortar]

wait until you get sanctum mesa region lol

wild

[raven obsidian]

look forward to it

HKEE56

lets run another

@west plume @static crane another?

[static crane]

not today, Thanks

[spring basin]

I'm in no rush I'm down to chill a bit until we get more ppl

@twilit storm Do you play testnet?

[raven obsidian]

i can wait a bit, will leave lobby open

casual testnet

HKEE56

[west plume]

Have a few things to sort out,sorry Mabbs

[rancid raptor]

ok this is ridiculous, just delete that second augment it always causes trouble

[ivory saddle]

I will be there

[frozen tartan]

@zenith mortar Good evening, RichKing. I didn't quite understand the announcement. Could you please clarify a few things?

1️⃣ "Reduce Leviathan Power" – does this happen after the first reward season in Leviathan or before rewards even begin?

2️⃣ Is there an estimated timeline for when rewards will be introduced in Leviathan?

[zenith mortar]

I don't know the answer to either honestly, I think 2 is a bit dependent on bugs in leviathan mode. And 1 I would need to investigate internally a bit.

[frozen tartan]

Got it, thanks for the reply. We'll be waiting for more details.

[twilit storm]

gg ..praise the broken augs..otherwise you d better go play monopoly 😉

muppet

disgusting

[wicked grotto]

I would be very happy to play Monopoly in good company. Thank you)

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/gitgud-thepruld-git-gud-dark-gif-8126281

btw blame the game not the players...this broken aug and the amazing "feature" which let you have even 2 ..is...

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-rofl-lol-funny-hilarious-gif-16308002

[wicked grotto]

My opinion is that looking for someone to blame is a thankless task. At the very least, we are belittling ourselves. We are losing the root causes, playing at monopoly, and then, look, we are repeating the same mistakes again))

[twilit storm]

the double reflective won the last round not u ...little gugan.

https://tenor.com/view/rolls-eyes-whatever-you-say-gif-25023299

I just smoked you the whole match until you had that "double gift" from the RnG Gods. be serious

your team was not even worth the 4th place dudeeeee

[wicked grotto]

I don't know what you were smoking and who you're talking to, my friend. But, if you smoked carefully. And of course, finished smoking. Something tells me, the rest can relax and enjoy, at minimum in the monopoly))

[twilit storm]

ok i see you don t get it

https://tenor.com/view/okay-whatever-zac-sistas-do-what-you-want-i-don't-care-gif-618441481968946633

[wicked grotto]

Please accept my apologies, I think it's my fault that you started looking for common sense in our short dialogue. I just allowed myself to be a little charged by your positive energy)

[bronze spire]

yea ill make it

[vivid stirrup]

did i read over it or was the new weapon system with bonding not on the roadmap list

[fallen vortex]

Weapon system is there

idk if i saw bonding

[supple beacon]

Yes I saw bonding

[fallen vortex]

so yeah he missed it

[uncut comet]

they love each other

[vivid stirrup]

noice

[jade pecan]

• What is 6.9?
• A good thing ruined by a period.

[west musk]

7/8 ranked main

[native mauve]

breakfast of champions!

[tropic forge]

Stay away from the dark sidee my friend ...control your emootions ... 🤣
try not to break your screen watching those fancy K damage on adaptive ref.🤣

[cold osprey]

Where can I find a guide to playing Arena?

[native mauve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_s6Lkozkc0&t=2s

[zenith mortar]

I'm searching ranked teestnet

if anyone wanna play

@uncut comet

@vivid stirrup

@safe valve

@hot pond

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-tom-hanks-run-running-on-my-way-gif-9305363

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sleep-gif-8847630

[zenith mortar]

@west plume

i was pinging people with green dot

@native mauve

@dark scaffold

@noble radish wanna get rekt

[west plume]

Sorry Rich Iam at work can't play

[native mauve]

sure im down for a quick one if your still down @zenith mortar

[zenith mortar]

AJPEXM

Casual

testnet

[spring basin]

Have you started?

[zenith mortar]

yeah

just now

[gaunt hull]

freaking close fight gg @hot pond

rolled 30 gold for a pho was nervouss still didnt came through haha

[hot pond]

GG. couldnt find a weapon again the whole freaking game

[gaunt hull]

yeah i got it pretty late too was sticking with verdant early game

[worldly token]

I hate when afk people (or with the join bug) are in game and you cannot play lose streak...

[sinful hornet]

doesn't matter anyway, half the time u get +1 gold for losing and -1 for winning

[worldly token]

anyone else having a lot of crashes today?

[sinful hornet]

ye but it started about a week ago

by "a lot" i mean like one every 2 games ~

[winter breach]

7/8 ranked

[worldly token]

yes that is about how often it happens to me. Quite annoying depending on the timing 😅

[rancid raptor]

do we have to sign in or something for this today?

[safe valve]

no, can just play ranked games starting and ending at the times mentioned above

[ebon flume]

https://tenor.com/view/this-gif-4354544

[tropic forge]

I was wondering about the Saturday´s tournament struct. and it´s kinda strange 1st game takes out 24 players at once. With actual luck based augments-weapons roll and OP compositions , is hard even for top players to get top 2.
IMO, and for next tournament´s structure , it would be better to have a top 4

32 people - (4 games simultaneous leaving 16 winners);
16 people - (2 games simultaneous leaving 8 winners).

And those are the finalists.

Getting top 4 in 2 games is safer and skill based than a single game top 2. Just my opinion, i´m not even in the tournament.

[rancid raptor]

ohh gotcha, how does one keep count?

or i mean how do we know each others points? is there a record?

[west plume]

@dark scaffold magic and Api stuff pulls the data from that time window

[rancid raptor]

haha awesome so its a 4hs grind

its weird being lower elo is better then?

know what i mean? you get paired against lower elo so higher chances to win

[dark scaffold]

in every semi, you have 4 ppl from top 16 LB and 4 ppl from the grind

if thats what you asking, so there is no "lower ranking" bracket

[tropic forge]

Yeah, i understand that. The thing i just don´t see totally optimized , is the fact that in every one of those 4 first games (where i understand that 4 people are from the LB and 4 on today´s qualifiers), 6 people are gonna get insta eliminated.
The game right know is really broken tbh, and anyone, literally anyone can insta eliminate 6 top players in a single game.

[sinful hornet]

that wasn't a reply to u

also it's not really like that, chances are besides like 2 people most of the qualifier players will bot their games

but a top player can be guaranteed top 2 instantly on the first legendary augment round

[tropic forge]

Ok then.So only top players know about the legendary augments? ...

anyway... it´s ok. If you guys are so confident u know 100% will get top 2 in that first game, good luck then. No worries.

[sinful hornet]

the broken augments are enough to give a mid player a free win, not someone worse

[dark scaffold]

we could go for gazilion different rules, and all could be valid, and all could have ppl who love the rules and ppl who dont like them
If we talks bugs/balancing arguments, alternative would be not having tournament at all, is thats what we want?
If we talk amount of matches, for some ppl this will be 6-7 hours worth of matches (4 hours knocks offs and 2 games, 40-50min eacvh for semi and finals)
just try to have fun, we testing stuff, we braking stuff

[tropic forge]

Yeah, i agree, but remember those 32 people will be top 16 , and 16 qualifiers (mid players...)...

[sinful hornet]

it's just number of games really, anything that's 3+ games take average and move to top 8 with another 3+ games is very decent, anything less is really just roulette

[tropic forge]

I was just trying to give a valid worry , and a way to improve it (IMO). The way i explained before only takes one more game per player, and seems more comfortable.

[sinful hornet]

banning anything is just not feasible and pointless

[dark scaffold]

this tournament has the rules set, next one may have different rules based on the feedback, best to play, gather your thoughts and then send it to Rich, after, we may make a thread in #1020759212172775464 and look/brainstorm for best rules etc

[tropic forge]

we have whole Saturday ( a day in the future) for the tournament... so , 2 semifinal games, and 3 final games are also better structured. As i say, as a valoration for next tournament, i know things can´t change in 2 days

[zenith mortar]

I'd say the larger issue is resources, although it may seem like 2 days is no big deal, when our marketing team has been significantly reduced. So that means me organise and run it (luckily I have Peter helping) and Kieran coming too. When already working everyday and trying to balance a normal life with reduced resources. So although we may have a “whole Saturday” I personally do not. I don’t have any “whole day” for anything unfortunately lol

[sinful hornet]

You could make it guild sponsored no? We already have like 3 guilds running 6-7 games tournaments

[zenith mortar]

This brings a range of its own issues

But yeah we do that currently

Just not them hosting the Illuvium one

What’s the difference you say?

[sinful hornet]

well it's just competitiveness, 2 games is just not it, instead of 2 games i'd rather just have another raffle draw

[zenith mortar]

Well maybe we want the tournament streamed? Well that again requires myself or someone from Illuvium (likely Me)

Guilds say we are being biased giving more exposure to others (yes this has happened already in past)

[sinful hornet]

now i don't wanna just randomly give other people work they didn't ask for out of nowhere, but would paz as a council member not potentially run it himself on behalf of illuvium?

or other volunteers

[frozen tartan]

I hope you're not planning to participate in the tournament as a player?
Might as well just hand you the 50 tokens right away.🍯

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/barron-trump-let-me-hear-it-show-off-trump-hand-to-ear-gif-12032203506919991642

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-gif-18529180

[tropic forge]

I honestly value all effort you guys put into Illuvium. Believe me, every word or time i take to write here and to try to help / improve or give my shitty opinion, that sometimes people agree with, is because i love the game too.
And i assure u competitive players want to play and show skills, and have a truly deserved spot on the final. My method, or any other that could improve a game where 6 of our best players can get insta eliminated just by luck, seems reasonable enough.

[zenith mortar]

Yeah we will see how today goes and improve upon it, I honestly do appreciate feedback and opinions, I’m no esport expert and never claim to be. Just want everyone to have a good time.

[tropic forge]

So i just suggest u, if it´s too late, to take that into account for next event. And if you guys can´t handle it, for 100% understandable reasons, there are more than capable guild leaders/ players that can do it.

[sinful hornet]

Rule of thumb not even the bo1 Top 4 to qualify events were very competitive, gatekeeping top 2 is basically just a 40 minute coinflip, if there's a competitivness lever and a timesaving lever this format we have tomorrow is at the bottom of competitivness and top of time saving, and bo3/bo4 advance to top 8 into another bo3/bo4 is about 80% competitivness and 20% timesaving

[frozen tartan]

I don't think your opinion is "shitty."
I actually like the format you're suggesting too.

[sinful hornet]

as a player the phantom normal tournaments and the one quants tournament with like 5 games of top 8 were by far the best

[tropic forge]

Yeah, not this time, but i do trashtalk sometimes 🤣

[sinful hornet]

now im not saying change the one tomorrow cuz it's gotta be locked for sure by now, but if u have any option to find someone to run a longer one it would be way better for the next one

[spring basin]

We have Caveman, Paz, and Scoriox. All of them could stream and host the tournament, and make it more competitive so that the players appreciate it more. A semi-final Best of 2 and a final Best of 3 should be the minimum.

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-boy-here-we-go-again-oh-dear-omg-alright-then-gif-20490490

[sinful hornet]

i mean it just really doesn't make sense to have the worst tournament format so far be the highest prize pool

[tropic forge]

I don´t really see a reason we can´t change tomorrow´s ... i´m pretty sure Illuvium top 16 would agree, because seems reasonable enough, and people that will clasify today can still choose if go for it or don´t. I know there ´s a rule about "not changing anything 1 day before , for profesionality i mean", but if you guys are at the end of the days the ones participating, and it´s for common good and game improvement, i think we should think about it.

[zenith mortar]

You’re right

[sinful hornet]

because they're locked in

[zenith mortar]

Let’s cancel

😂

[spring basin]

What happend with this part 👀

[sinful hornet]

i'd be down, turn it into a wheel spin

[zenith mortar]

Emphasis on the end

I didn’t know people think it would be so “not fun”

[sinful hornet]

but why are you having tournaments "for fun"

with the biggest prizepool

[zenith mortar]

Even better question

[tropic forge]

Yeah, and they´re gonna have a "good time" by being on the final and not being eliminated by MR Kukaraph 424 that took a lucky shot on 2nd position on first roulette game 🤣

[zenith mortar]

Well I was excited for today lol

Gonna go drink coffee just woke up thanks for the insights

[viral marsh]

today part seems cool. but tommorow....

[sinful hornet]

but u don't have to attach urself to the tournament, if we're giving feedback to change it it doesn't mean u fucked up anything it just means we value competivness more

[viral marsh]

i don't ask for much. just give me behemoth aug and shield before round 8 for tomorrow game1

[tropic forge]

Put some candles and watch some Hindu dance tutorials on Utube.

that helps a lot 😆

[viral marsh]

ye, already think about it

have stop play for today, and save all luck

[gaunt hull]

Where can I register for toms tourna?

[sinful hornet]

no registering, you just play ladder

[viral marsh]

being in top-16. or play today qualyfications

[gaunt hull]

Currently top 17 aha

[zenith mortar]

Top 16 is already locked anyways

[viral marsh]

i think for top-16 invites already send

[gaunt hull]

If anyone wonders im coolguy21

Hahaha

Change my name now to lumot

Invite me if someone skips im rank 17

[viral marsh]

2 hour event with bigest prize pull. not sure someone skip this lotery

[tropic forge]

So, seriously Rich, isn´t there a possibility in changing tomorrow ´s event system? all you have to do is make that first game where top 2 go final, into 2 games where top 4 advance.
It will only take 45mins + from tomorrow´s time and i know all players will agree.

[sinful hornet]

it's not feasible to change tomorrow bro the players already expect something, the organizers as well, you have people who scheduled around it, you can change the next ones

[gaunt hull]

So if someones skips im the next one!

[sinful hornet]

you can qualify there's a 4 hour window for the last 16

[gaunt hull]

Working right now haha. Sad no time to play for the next 6 hrs

Very limited to play only got 101 total games 🥹

Anyway goodluck to the participants then!

[tropic forge]

I really have the time to qualify today, and perhaps i will for the fuel. But tomorrow´s gonna make me regret it 😆

[low comet]

All participants will get rewarded?

[sinful hornet]

yea with fuel

top 8 for ILV

and more fuel

[gaunt hull]

Me and karl top 17 and 18

😂

[west plume]

I loled

[tropic forge]

yeah, if u make it to tomorrow you ´ll get fuel.

[dark scaffold]

I believe you were 19th during the snapshot

[gaunt hull]

Oh yeah the last snapshot

[turbid osprey]

Unfortunately theres no one to manage, host or advise on the competitive scene

Rich with his already 99 different hats takes it on and did what he could last minute

Im grateful that we still have a tournament, but this format is 1/10 at best and like hollow pointed out yesterday it would take just one more game to make it x3 better. Looks like it is what it is for this one and they dont have time anyway

As the team doesnt have ressources to hold tournaments i suggested them to outsource it to a community organizer/host

I also pushed to have an esports committee couple months ago to overview and advise the team on the competitive scene so that things like this couldnt happen. It took long to implement but the nominations are finally happening right now we should have an esport committee advising the team before the next ilv tournament 🙏

[gaunt hull]

But right now 17

[tropic forge]

Don´t feel bad, i was 13th and dropped because i didn´t knew about the tournament.Started to try some fancy shit on ranked and now i´m like 21 🤣

[gaunt hull]

I saw you haha. You place 15th then went to 22 last day

[tropic forge]

yeah, no big deal, MMR just a number 😂

[gaunt hull]

Me Brew and and teckson were fighting before snapshot for the 20th place

[tropic forge]

it´s to go bulwark (which i deeply refuse, or the killer monkeys) or pray to a Mayan God for Godly augs...

[gaunt hull]

Btw i only go for 1 bulwark

🧐

[sinful hornet]

me too

i just do it 5 times

[gaunt hull]

Hollow 7earth or 5 bulwark behemoth HAHA

[sinful hornet]

i've not hit a behemoth in like a hundred games

[gaunt hull]

When I see the behemoth coming I just start to cook some rice and afk

[tropic forge]

Best part is i tested some good comps and learned a lot. I feel more prepared for next patch.I guess -200 score was the price to pay, but i don´t really regret it. I´m playing with a more open mind and countering better. So no big deal.

[sinful hornet]

bro next patch is still the same meta you just add on top of it

[gaunt hull]

I tried using the 5 bulwark its nor for me really. 7-8th place were the price for it

[tropic forge]

i mean, this is my first month with arena, there were some weapons / aug / comps you need to see on the field vs really good players to learn

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/hat-tip-gif-11048773

[gaunt hull]

Had fun experimenting too. Found a good playstyle to play

[tropic forge]

not refering to meta, just knowledge which i hadn´t before

[zenith mortar]

I’ll try to get to 2/10 for next tournament guys

[sinful hornet]

1 game extra makes it 5/10

[zenith mortar]

Damn ok so maybe I hit 5 next time

[gaunt hull]

Anyway if someone got sick or not available. Dm me up for invitation im avialable. First tourna if ever

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[worldly token]

Will all games that end after 17 utc count? So If I start a game at 16:30 and it ends 17:05 I can get points already?

[tropic forge]

Yeah i think they said games that started before 17utc count .

[zenith mortar]

Yes as long as they start in the window

[sinful hornet]

do surrenders count?

as in they don't count for tickets/15 games/fuel is it the same for points?

[ebon flume]

Test Net casual?

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/paradox-px-px-bratislava-paradox-bratislava-black-and-white-gif-24697278

[zenith mortar]

You mean if you’re in 4th and you surrender

[sinful hornet]

top 4 yea

like 2nd and ff do u get the points or not

[zenith mortar]

I think we can differentiate, but I don’t think it’s that much of an issue with the format of playing more games. But ideally no surrenders don’t count as it’s just a dumb way to end games

[viral marsh]

but how you can know, if player surrender or not, if you just have results of every game with positions

[zenith mortar]

Ser

We have backend data

We know all

[viral marsh]

previous time noone check it

[zenith mortar]

Previous time wasn’t an issue

[viral marsh]

so - surrender not allow?

[sinful hornet]

can just sell board for faster end

[zenith mortar]

lol

You guys go to parties and are the funnest people there eh?

[turbid osprey]

Will we lose points for bottom 4?

[zenith mortar]

Says in the rules

[sinful hornet]

i don't go to parties that costs money

[viral marsh]

just whanna understand and clear rules.

[safe valve]

aren't you guys all set already?
now trying to game the qualification rounds?
😄

[zenith mortar]

Right lol

[viral marsh]

to not let other get in

[zenith mortar]

That’s what I’m asking myself

[low comet]

How many hours left before quali?

[zenith mortar]

Hollow trying to figure how to exploit the rules when he’s already locked in lol

[sinful hornet]

ye im just trying to help viper

[zenith mortar]

lol

Touché

He needs all the help he can get

[zenith mortar]

1.5

[west plume]

He is literally in the next room Rich.

[pliant jay]

do we need to do anything for the Sin n Go phase? or just play ranked games within the 4 hour window?

[zenith mortar]

Just play ranked

and win

top 4 in each match gets points

[sinful hornet]

the sin n go

[torpid trellis]

Are you playing?

[zenith mortar]

It was early I really dont mind guys, I understand its a 1/10 for the pros here, but maybe its a 5/10 for the regular grinders and maybe your format is a 1/10 for them. Peter and I will have a thread for you guys to discuss future tournament plans, as well as trouble shooting issues with hosting and scheduling. Also as Patate mentioned the Esports committee will be coming as well which will help provide insights from esports professionals that I'm sure will align more with the pros ideas here. So although this 1/10 tournament may not be that much fun /fair for you guys it sets the ground work for future illuvium tournaments. So lets have a great time and good luck.

[low comet]

How many games needed? Do you guys record all the games during that time? No need screenshot from us right?

[zenith mortar]

no screenshots needed

we record everything

[sinful hornet]

well yea that's why i keep bringing up competitivness and the wheel, if you're not the best player you obviously prefer playing as few games as possible that gives you the highest chance at prizepool, opposite for the best players, end of the day it's just balancing competitive and placement variance

like if we had this tournament every day then hell yea i'd take ur format every day, but when it's once in a while it feels atrocious to eat a random lowroll that decides the whole tourney

[viral marsh]

just don't take it so serious.

[sinful hornet]

needs to have no money for that KEKW

[zenith mortar]

money is all part of your mind

[viral marsh]

don't think about it, so you not upset so much when not win. same for this raffles

[zenith mortar]

you dont need it

[sinful hornet]

only part

[zenith mortar]

lol

[sinful hornet]

i like the raffles, those are supposed to be just luck so it's nothing wrong with them

[viral marsh]

any news about leviathan? it's already 4 week. in anounce says 4-5 week.
do we see Levi LB soon?

[sinful hornet]

and it's really good for non top3~ players to have something big to play for

[sinful hornet]

there was a scoriox chat with kieran today it's probably not coming very soon

he said they don't wanna fuck up the queues

[viral marsh]

i feel this turney like 1 more raffle. not like tournament for skill check

[sinful hornet]

but patch i think is coming live after tournament

[viral marsh]

not coming very soon, sound like - "not in this month"

[sinful hornet]

well he didn't give a time horizon i think, he just said they don't wanna fuck up the queues

imo best play if there's players is you reset ladder next week and then 1 or 2 weeks after u get leviathan online

[viral marsh]

ussualy - soon, mean 2-3 week. and if they say not soon. oh. it's can take 1-2 month

[sinful hornet]

yes but the soon is from me not from him

i think basically there's no chance it comes in the next 2 weeks

[viral marsh]

even if ranked reset. and levi+ranked start at same time - just grind 1 month, and got in top for both

[sinful hornet]

3rd week from now could be possible could be not

[sinful hornet]

ye but u don't want to have them start at the same time

u want to give people the chance to climb first on one 1 week then on the 2nd one

[viral marsh]

i don't care. i'l spend more time for more perspective. then catch up at other

[sinful hornet]

ye im not saying YOU don't want them to start same time, i'm saying in general

cuz you have the risk of everyone's playing the normal ladder on first week and you legit stuck with 6 people not finding a queue in levi

[viral marsh]

rating should reset every week. so no "time limit" to grind.

[sinful hornet]

you're discouraging half the playerbase from playing again with a system like that

[viral marsh]

when you have x4 rewards for levi - i'm sure, you can find game

when everyone have chances get good place every week. and not only at start of 2 month season - you will see how people will play.
now - i see that que time again sometimes around 600-800sec.

and most of players just seat at their rating. +-some fights for top-10-20.
i'm not say i feel bad - i have just play 15 games. but to made active LB and game - it's strange not reset for week 5.

[turbid osprey]

Did the time change? I was sure i read 19:00 UTC

[zenith mortar]

yeah thats in 45 mins

time did not change

[turbid osprey]

But now its 17:00 UTC, maybe my bad but i remember seeing 19:00 UTC and for tomorrow 23:00 UTC but now its 19:00

[zenith mortar]

what?

[turbid osprey]

Maybe when you shared before it was public, idk

[zenith mortar]

lol

yeah i changed after i shared with you guys in the tournament channel

based on kierans availability

and it not being 3 am on sunday for him

[sinful hornet]

that's the best time for 2nd wind to hit

[zenith mortar]

he needs his first wind based on his play lately

[west plume]

Are you playing?

[zenith mortar]

Of course

[west plume]

May the best man win

Or qualify

Idk Iam just going to play for 4 hours and see how it goes

[obtuse summit]

When on the time estimate will mobile arena come? most bullish

[safe valve]

Unknown

[sinful hornet]

tomorrow

check this message until it's right ^

[zenith mortar]

@viral marsh are you in for tomorrow

@summer frigate?

[worldly token]

why is noone in queue? Games count that start now right?

[viral marsh]

yes

[sinful hornet]

u didn't just miss a game?

[zenith mortar]

@lyric flint are you in tomorrow?

[worldly token]

already 7 min waiting

4/8

[zenith mortar]

@ivory saddle you in tomorrow

[worldly token]

ah now it fills. Just have to complain xD

[cyan olive]

why do games now count?

[sinful hornet]

finish time

[cyan olive]

oh lol

[zenith mortar]

@gilded idolare you AmoMinhaMulher

[cyan olive]

0,5/10 rules now

[sinful hornet]

no it's better u finish earlier

[lyric flint]

Yeah, I’ll be there

[zenith mortar]

soon 0

[sinful hornet]

1.1/10 in my eyes now

[cyan olive]

I guess, but would have qued up already then

how does it work, we just finish ranked games

that´s it?

[sinful hornet]

it's kinda fine i doubt u'll miss by 1 game

ye they just track with api

but probably means also games that finish after :00 won't count

[cyan olive]

yeah

[summer frigate]

Yes

[spare frigate]

yeah just play ranked, get top4 for points within the timeframe

person with more points at the end get in finals

[cyan olive]

ok boss

[spare frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-the-dude-car-head-bop-banging-gif-4831190

[cyan olive]

idk, maybe

[spare frigate]

idk why people are complaining... could be worst, could be playing at 3am -.-

[cyan olive]

3am is the fun time

[spare frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/gamer-twitch-twitching-addiction-twacked-gif-20089522

[ember sail]

Are you counting yet?

[tropic forge]

Hope it does. Got fatal error on this Game , and no reconnect option . Guess this is a sign.

[low comet]

@viral marsh i thought youre already qualified

just grinding?

[viral marsh]

to not let other get much points

[low comet]

i see, is the que fast? i find match 8/8 already hahahaha

[viral marsh]

to look how people play

i whait 120 sec after previous game

[low comet]

how many are already in before you find match? like 5/8?

[viral marsh]

2/8

[low comet]

Seems like lots of people are playing maybe people from rank 21-50

[viral marsh]

only 26 ppl in discord. and i think around same not in voice

[low comet]

is it required to be in discord or nah. I just got home to participate in sit n go

[worldly token]

I thought we just need to play ranked?

I also thought there will be low queue times during this time window.. even have 5+ minutes now

[hot pond]

So you need to be in top 4 to get points for the tournament?

And are the already qualified 16 taking away the spots then within a match? I wouldn’t want to have that

[naive mantle]

can i just jump in and play? is this a seperate points tracker for this time period? do i need to stream or can i just play normally?

[low comet]

How come this new line up pure air only come this sit n go hahahaha wth

[dark scaffold]

yup, just start playing Ranked mainnet (we calculating scores automatically)

no need to stream today, but tommorow yes

[viral marsh]

from 2/8 into start in 90 sec

[worldly token]

maybe I was just unlucky. Since the event started I spent 15 minutes waiting for 2 games xD

[zenith mortar]

@gilded idol hey you are already qualified for tomorrow i think

[rancid raptor]

is time limit like end game or start game limit?

thats a very poorly formulated question but i think you know what i mean

[dark scaffold]

we are half way there

[dark scaffold]

the time of starting game matters, so you can start minute before 21:00 and the game will still count

[viral marsh]

i can't find myself here.
can we get score for all people who play at the end?

[dark scaffold]

you will not be on this one, script removes ppl who are already in from ranked LB

[gilded idol]

yes! i changed my nickname yesterday

[zenith mortar]

yeah you are qualified for tomorrow

are you going to be there

[gilded idol]

lets gooo

[rapid berry]

how do i get qualified and why no anouncement

[static crane]

By Top16 in 4-hour competition

All info was announced here - #📣〕announcements message

[low comet]

@zenith mortar if the game starts at 2 minutes before ending will it still be counted?

[zenith mortar]

yes

as long as played in the windopw

[low comet]

okay thanks hahaha im at 0 points atm hahahaha

hard to play on my timezone its 3 in the morning hahahaha

[dark scaffold]

you may be in anyways, you are next in line if we do not manage to contact SteigenHYPE

[low comet]

we play on similar timezone but i think he will participate ofcourse but thanks on the info

[dark scaffold]

One hour left

[low comet]

end already?

[dark scaffold]

still one hour to go

[pliant jay]

as long as it starts within the window? or end within the window?

[zenith mortar]

start

[pliant jay]

cool, thanks

[viral marsh]

3 games. 3 templar weapon before round 15. which delivery weapon service you use @hollow orbit ?

[ember sail]

I don't count this game, if I had counted it would be 21 points now

[fringe zephyr]

Guys gogogogo ranked

guys LAST CHANCE gogogog 4/8 ranked gauntlet

come come come

[low comet]

@dark scaffold can i see rankings now sit n go

[dark scaffold]

(but those are not final yet, all active games still counts, so we wait for them to finish)

[low comet]

Thank you didn't know you we're live streaming

[rancid raptor]

dang, ggs

[worldly token]

dang did not know that. Could have started one more xD was like 15 min left

[low comet]

I went from 0 points last 1 hour to 16 points before ending lol hope i make it to top 16 hahahah Viper only played this week and got higher than us hahaha

[viral marsh]

is it predict for tomorrow?

[sinful hornet]

it's not over yet

[viral marsh]

seems you go out from grp into finals. unlucky for Whity.

[sinful hornet]

whity probably rather plays in group 1 than 3 too

but there's still games going before final standins

[viral marsh]

i mean look on positions 1-2 in every grp. it's seems who and which place got 🙂

[sinful hornet]

it's seeding, but hopefully it's prediction too

grilla 2 on first shop tomorrow

[viral marsh]

2 stage 2 weapon before round 15 - my order.

[sinful hornet]

ok u get wildfire

[viral marsh]

no no. weapon i need. who play wildfire in 2025?

[dark scaffold]

and we have the list for tomorow's Finals

(subject to change if someone do not show up)

[ashen mango]

Congrats to the 16 people who qualified

You earned 3500 guaranteed fuel 🥳

[sinful hornet]

they should've made the fuel 1/3 chance to get for everyone

and spin the wheel live for all 32 players if they get it or not

[gaunt hull]

https://tenor.com/view/gabsu-cat-cute-paw-wave-gif-14540460535731082228

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-vibing-paw-finger-dancing-gif-27335594

[twilit storm]

much /respect for @spring basin who didn t push hard into every game he could during this qualification session coz he didn t need it, you are the true legend ser.

[outer surge]

Congrats and good luck to everyone that made it to tomorrow! Well played!

[ashen mango]

Do you know how impactful AS, MS and AD are on the Tiktalik line now? @topaz lake

I'm also wondering if piercing makes you only ignore resistances or also mitigation and "Damage reduction" items

[spring basin]

Haha, thanks Quants 🙏 I was already through, so I didn’t see a reason. It would’ve just been unfair to the people I matched with. Also, I don’t play much in the evenings.

[twilit storm]

You are one of a kind, and i mean it...really.

[zenith mortar]

You know who’s one of a kind

Me

I made top 16

https://tenor.com/view/barron-trump-let-me-hear-it-show-off-trump-hand-to-ear-gif-12032203506919991642

[twilit storm]

You did good ye..but we are talking bout real men here, sorry pal

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/blah-blah-whatever-bye-talking-kid-gif-17923976

Don’t see you in top 16 ser

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/kaamelott-leodagan-pfff-muet-gif-6901145859011522875

[languid sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/everybody-has-a-story-to-tell-ignace-aleya-everyone-has-their-own-story-everybody-has-a-story-to-share-gif-25699742

[ivory saddle]

Yes

[zenith mortar]

Nice

[hollow orbit]

Is it correct that Knockdown Stage will start in about 20 hours from now, and the top 2 will advance to the finals after just 1 play?

[languid sparrow]

And the data is telling me Rich got lucky!

[zenith mortar]

Wrong

[ebon flume]

No Rich Noo Nooo.....

[zenith mortar]

I was really in, becaue the tie break by avg score

but i told them they could leave me out because i have to host

[ebon flume]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-stewart-what-is-corruption-gif-8771030

[languid sparrow]

Just kidding Rich your like Diamond 3 so 2 354

[ebon flume]

Never, you the only Mod Standing now

[zenith mortar]

we know in our hearts

i made it

@west plume we may have to start mod training classes for you guys

[ebon flume]

https://giphy.com/gifs/SZyJnRHl15RMWQ4wpQ

[zenith mortar]

Cant have mods out here embarassing us

[ebon flume]

https://tenor.com/view/sylvester-stallone-rocky-training-montage-push-ups-gif-5650689

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/full-metal-jacket-r-lee-ermey-gny-sgt-hartman-hartman-you-will-not-laugh-gif-24755803

[void dust]

Just spent the entire game trying to build a Ryplance - not even a single Rypter amongst any other opponent and no success. What is the issue here? Is the game just bugged? Does the team know what the issue is and is a fix coming?

[bronze spire]

what level did you roll down and how many did you end up getting?

possibly super unlucky or maybe there is still the bug that takes a sold illuvial a round or 2 to go back to the pool

[void dust]

I spent the entire game trying for it from like round 5 - but most rolling was at the 35% level. Used my entire gold hoard efficiently, was having a strong game... ended up with 8 base units.

In my opinion, it's bugged somehow. If it's unlucky, then it's a game design issue. It shouldn't be possible to be this unlucky.

[bronze spire]

right, yea maybe bug but for what its worth id save till round 12 than go 7 and roll there

maybe lvl 6

[void dust]

ty

[bronze spire]

better odds and more econ to reroll

[muted iris]

5/8

[worldly remnant]

7/

7/8

[twilit storm]

maybe you say uh? 😂 gm btw

[bronze spire]

gm haha. Im actually not sure if this bug still exists

ive had no issue, other than with weapons

[west plume]

Anyone gotten this in a game yet?

For testnet

[languid sparrow]

👀 , not on my side

[west plume]

just got it in Casual testnet

[frank moon]

7/8

[frozen tartan]

@safe valve

https://tenor.com/view/cursed-cursed-memes-scared-hamster-hamster-hamster-meme-gif-16519510078493613988

[void dust]

I find this incredible.

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-creepy-gif-24283897

[safe valve]

gathering for fusion 😄
but 1 is missing... @ashen mango doesn't accept my offer yet

[ashen mango]

$15 and it's yours 😏

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/my-girl-seal-friendship-its-a-deal-seal-spit-gif-17005706

[ashen mango]

🤝

[tight swift]

Do the Testnet Crates with Affinities have random loot, or is there a higher chance of getting the Affinities that you already have on the board?

[ashen mango]

Thanks @safe valve you gave me an idea 😁

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-mandalorian-i-have-spoken-baby-yoda-gif-24159898

[ashen mango]

I was desperetaly looking for a perfect Ghazotep for a decent price

[safe valve]

buying lower stagees and do a fusion is here and there way cheaper than trying to offer for s3

[ashen mango]

For T1 to T3 probably

For T4 and T5 I don't think so

[safe valve]

t5 not even really for sell for a human price

try buying a rhamphyre or a titanor with decent stats

[ashen mango]

Offer accepted by the way

Exalted Grilla is yours

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-donald-trump-you-rock-the-best-you-are-the-best-gif-8739782843522006768

[ashen mango]

Actually there's an amazing Rhamphyre that has been bought for $50 recently

@frank moon finds amazing deals

[languid sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-a-deal-shark-tank-lets-do-it-hell-yeah-agreed-gif-21045053

[safe valve]

looking since months for a rhamphyre or lower stages for fusions

dmtg is a godlike sniper indeed

[ashen mango]

Actually it was sold for $90-$100 rather but still insane

[safe valve]

rip

[safe valve]

i wish i had seen that

[ashen mango]

You should be good with a good T3 run and a lot of ringnuts

[ashen mango]

And it's already lvl 60

[safe valve]

ya

for that lvl even more extremely cheap 😄

exp so expensive now

[ashen mango]

Actually I just realized that I tried to buy this ramphyre something like 6 months ago but the holder hadn't capitulated yet at that time xD

[safe valve]

yeah... that happened so often to me...
or he sold after month to a guy for 1$ more than i offered 😄

[ashen mango]

I feel you
I was looking for a perfect lynx for a long time and one day I see that Rikki sold his 30/30 lynx for $20

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-ayasan-gif-24417561

[frozen tartan]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mZZpUQwpJ0Y

Is this the one?

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/pepocry-pepe-pepe-the-frog-frog-cry-gif-11952023239738753211

[ashen mango]

I see that you have one of the best leviathan collection now
Ready to face my 30/30 lvl 60 rogues? 😏

[frozen tartan]

I'm low skill, you won't leave me a chance.

[ashen mango]

https://tenor.com/view/no-mercy-johnny-kreese-william-zabka-martin-kove-gif-24814714

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/dedede-king-dedede-king-shocked-scared-gif-19337144

[frank moon]

I dont snipe I just help the weak hands out

[ashen mango]

It's done 😎

[ashen mango]

Thanks for your charity work 🫡

[frank moon]

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-fox-fennec-cute-little-fox-adorable-fox-gif-7138657310881122829

[gaunt hull]

If any no show in 32 participants im available haha

[worldly remnant]

7/8

[wild kiln]

You can send one of the Grilla, Spoon. I’ve got empty slots, it’ll be ready in 2 hours 🤝

[safe valve]

very kind of you, ser.
But it's already done... just fninishing the run right now.

[wild kiln]

Oh great 🙏🙏

[noble hinge]

Show us the fuse result.

On another topic, do we get raffle tickets for testnet or only for main?

[west plume]

Only for main

[noble hinge]

Mainnet 6/8

[spring basin]

Did you get into a game? I was in the queue, but it got canceled for me.

[noble hinge]

Yes, playing now

[spring basin]

Am I in it? Not sure what happend with my que

[noble hinge]

No you aren't in.

Weird that happened to you.

[spring basin]

Oh good! I was scared I would lose like 70 points or something

[noble hinge]

That would be awful. It's been weird today. I got stuck at 4/8 forever again too. Cancelled and had to reload to get a game.

[safe valve]

thanks @ashen mango 🙂

[languid sparrow]

OUCH!

https://tenor.com/view/roar-rawr-predator-gif-11210937136773139413

[ashen mango]

https://tenor.com/view/the-predator-gif-14049672

[safe valve]

didn't expect full stats....
ma best fusion so far since the overhaul tbh... it's not a worst case fusion 😄

[ashen mango]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-dune-part-2-gurney-hallek-that-is-power-he-said-the-thing-gif-17196467477155264416

[noble hinge]

He is incredible! Congrats

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-2021-desert-power-timothee-chalamet-paul-atreides-zendaya-chani-gif-14085656076762374579

[supple epoch]

is a visual of harnessing The Power Within mastering the Dragon

[noble hinge]

7/8 main

[sullen vessel]

A question with ranked arena how come you cant see the other players ranking score?

[noble hinge]

To protect the privacy of those of us who have low scores.

[viscid otter]

Do ranks ever get reset? Mine is embarrassingly low, lol

[noble hinge]

It got reset before the rewards started.
Maybe if they do some other kind of reward thing or maybe not until game goes out of Beta? Not sure. Resigned to just trying to claw back up to over 1200...again.🤣

[rapid berry]

@zenith mortar can 2 testnet codes for me and my friend please

[low comet]

how many games later for each participants?

[spring basin]

Semi is bo1 top 2 advance, final bo1.

[zenith mortar]

KDGU9-TGX7P-NJWL7-4AU98
7UQGH-DZ5FE-3XHZW-3P99V
T9KLF-D26JH-E9AHD-ZUEGE
CQCN4-4WZUN-3DYDA-NQCB6

[low comet]

1 game for top 9-32, 2 games for top 1-8? omg hahahaha

[rapid berry]

@zenith mortar where do u type the codes in?

[zenith mortar]

Epic Games

redeem code

in top right

[rapid berry]

found it

[zenith mortar]

under your account

[rapid berry]

thanks

[spring basin]

Yeah that's right! It will hopefully change for the next one 🙏

[sinful hornet]

wish granted, 8 lobbies top 1 qualify for the final

[spring basin]

Haha don't scare me like that

[sinful hornet]

finals format is bo5 game 5 positions are final standings

[violet summit]

@zenith mortar do we join any voice channel for the tournament?

starts in 45mins right?

[zenith mortar]

yeah

illuvium voice

[signal bloom]

I don't have streaming rights.

Granted. Thank you.

[stray escarp]

hi

[open ibex]

Join voice chat

[sinful hornet]

surely next patch adaptive is not dealing pure dmg right?

[cyan olive]

after playing a bit, the fact you can hit +1s and others get "normal" augment or unuseable? +1s, also kinda crazy

[sinful hornet]

it's a complete joke, hit one augment get in guaranteed if u're not griefing, while others are playing with basically 0 augments the whole game, when they talked about components coming i thought they knew this too but it seems they just straight up don't get how they're supposed to work

[ember sail]

This final match literally had 4 broken augments. With 2 being used on the same team, they could think about banning this.

[sinful hornet]

i mean u made finals because u rolled the broken augment, they could think about playing their game cuz if anyone in the team tried to climb for 1 day this would've been hotfixed the 2nd day

and turning it from autowin for someone if rolled into autoloss cuz u have 3 picks instead of 4 is even worse

[bronze spire]

Triple adaptive not enough to win a game must not be that broken lol

Obviously it’s very good though

[sinful hornet]

you griefed your spot and took me out with u

[bronze spire]

I had 5 earth at round 5 you griefed me lol

But yea both fucked eachother for sure

[sinful hornet]

ye but only grilla matters

u had 3 when i had 6

[twilit storm]

The Gauntlet Grinders V is calling.
60 ILV at stake.
Answer the challenge.
Qualifications start Monday May 5 00:00 UTC
96 hours dynamic leaderboard.
Compete in Ranked matches for the Finals.
Daily snapshots show where you stand.
Top 8 will play the Final (Friday May 9 20:00 UTC)

[violet summit]

If nefer played 5 bullworks it would have been so easy

[sinful hornet]

and i had literally 0 items the whole game so i had no other spot

but in ur spot i legit think im top 2ing 90 out of 100 going bulwarks

[violet summit]

But he went for mud, not so great

But in all games played today, top2 had damage reflection and/or blightfire

This game is really not allowing for skill expression but RNG gods

[sinful hornet]

blightfire is a balanced item compared to adaptive

[bronze spire]

You got 6 grilla naturally?

[sinful hornet]

ye

[bronze spire]

So much luck

[sinful hornet]

what do u mean

my best item the whole game was the clumsy one

i'm trading my spot with urs every single time

in my head u never go for earth with no natural grillas if u hit adaptive cuz it gives u 10 winstreak on just a 2 star grokko

[ember sail]

I only got second place because you guys competed in Earth, the day before I had thought about sending a message in the group, saying someone has to sacrifice themselves to stop Earth from Web3, I didn't comment and in the end what I had thought happened, thanks Hollow. lol

[sinful hornet]

and u easily get the sear cap

[hot pond]

adaptive + bulwarks is the easiest play there is literally

[viral marsh]

blightfire do dmg in any team, and don't have 12sec before start doing dmg

[sinful hornet]

but blightfire doesn't give u 10 winstreak for free

[bronze spire]

I had natural grilla and clearly commited earth from round 5 you made the choice to join

[sinful hornet]

i had 2 grillas 2 aapons on my 2nd pvp round

the game is just dogshit is the bigger problem

[ashen mango]

He didn't play bulwark with it

[viral marsh]

i hope we got patch before monday on live. so we can enjoy grinders event, and not play agains random

[twilit storm]

5 bw + adaptive was really an easy bet

[sinful hornet]

also u had the least bulwark players i've ever seen in this lobby

[viral marsh]

strange that Psycho not build behemoth. vs nefer team. only Furyz have 3 bears

[sinful hornet]

but also if u have dogshit items u have no other play so there is literally nothing else i can do

[ember sail]

My internet went down twice. My game had started perfectly, and I accumulated a sequence of losses. And in round 16 it went down again, and GMphoenix only put up 1 ranger and held a Phorus and a Rai with Templar. I still can't understand that. It took me about 20 seconds to take down the ranger.

[sinful hornet]

5 games final again?

[twilit storm]

yes

[sinful hornet]

god's work

[bronze spire]

I was also hoping you’d drop out way earlier and I could finish the grilla but we both lasted too long

[twilit storm]

hopefully we will play the new build (maybe)

so it will be really fun with the regions and stuff

[sinful hornet]

this doesn't work for grilla, only for 3rd mud, if u're not accelerated midgame it's already over

[west plume]

anyone up for some Testnet gauntlet?

BX5MS4

[bronze spire]

It would have got me another few rounds for sure which is what I needed to hit everything else

[sinful hornet]

ye but it doesn't matter cuz u can't cap high enough to top 2 contested

the whole point of the build is u don't lose the whole stage midgame and then u cap it with 5 costs

and it's literally only grilla that does that

[bronze spire]

I’m talking about capping it with 5 costs

[sinful hornet]

like it's unlucky circumstances for sure but you had a consistent option with bulwarks

as in gun to my head need to top 2 in my spot i have to play for earth, swap spots with u i'm always going bulwarks in that spot

[bronze spire]

Swap spots with you I’m not suiciding earth when someone clearly commited and with adaptive to help him last way longer than me

[sinful hornet]

i would roll slightly at 5 see if i roll a bunch of grillas, pick up mystic weapon but if by 2 rounds of slowrolling i didn't hit im bulwarks

[sinful hornet]

it's suicide to not go earth in my spot cuz it's the only thing that can get carried by units with no items

and also i had 4 grillas and stage 3 lynx when ur board still played a 1 star grilla

honestly actually i should've typed

[bronze spire]

I had stage 2 grilla way before round 11

[sinful hornet]

actual 1 thing to improve

[bronze spire]

I can see why you still went earth though

[sinful hornet]

i don't want to but literally the game's decided for me i don't get other options

[viral marsh]

earth still can play without roll stage-3 units, you have options

[sinful hornet]

for top 4

but without grilla 3 u can't top 2

[viral marsh]

for top-1, depend of weapons you got

[sinful hornet]

in any decent tournament format it would've been fine honestly

like on ladder this game's still a top 4

[bronze spire]

Yea I went 7-8 relatively early for this but found 1 pho the whole game

[sinful hornet]

honestly this game was just complete aids, any decent item i'm in premium spot, find synalph i'm in decent spot, instead i face the literal only 1 guy that kills me before pve

[bronze spire]

Yea unlucky. Also unlucky we both really like earth and in same lobby haha

[ashen mango]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[sinful hornet]

i don't like earth, i would never play it if i could choose

the game just likes to give me terrible items 1 in 2 games

[viral marsh]

not remember i hit grilla early

[sinful hornet]

and then give me autowins the other times

[bronze spire]

Don’t you play it all the time

[sinful hornet]

because the game gives it to me not because i want to