#๐ฎใilluvium-arena
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This is too confronting for me..
Truth is $PAIN
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delete whole saved file?
very titling 3 games straight dc rnd 17/21 then gives a random augment then lose positioning ๐ฅฒ
Yeah
Usually helps
At least in my experience
Results may vary
7/8
@winged fox claimed the 16th and last spot for the "Gauntlet Grinders III"
Don't give up! There are still 4 open slots on the waiting list. These reserved slots will be assigned to the top-performing players. The waiting list will be evaluated at the end of the qualification window on February 14th at 23:59 UTC.
Do we still send top 1 matches ?
@twilit storm the tournament is Saturday at 8pm UTC right?
@spare fable yeas pl,s keep posting 1st and 2nd finish..we will do the snaplshot Friday for the 4 slots of the waiting list.
Yes Saturday Feb 15 20:00 UTC
pls be present at least 20 mins earlier
PLEASE. make that sell area a little away from the corner spots. I dont remember how many times I sold a precious illluvial mistakenly.
and wanted to send this to feedback but it is ages of scrolling down during playing a game
there is no go to date there I dont know why
You can send the feedback outside of a game, or go to #โโใsupport to use Zendesk to submit the bug report + add this screenshot
this is not a bug bro :/
and as I have mentioned above feedback channel is endless scrolldown
I am losing my current game trying to say this :/
ohhh yes
You can submit feedback in the exact way you would submit a bug. There's a button you can click to choose
All good, just directing you to where you can get it directly to the team. It's more than fine to post it here as well
thank you
I will focus my current game but before let me tell it is really hard to report that during a game
you decide to give up game to report
Yeah I understand; but my point was that you can send feedback when you're not playing a game as well. No need to do it mid match
maybe report button should take a ss or smth. then we report and write after game ends
it maybe more useful
I focused smth. else. and you suggested smth. else I did not notice
that is helpfull ty. but my suggestion is also other ๐ ty anyway XD
Haha all good mate
You can press b and send feedback through the ingame tool too
done this a few times too lol
yes that is what I am talking ๐ you cant type title and description during a game. It should get a ss and fill it aftergame or it should be simplified
that is why most of the people, including me gave up sending it while typing since the next round has started
lost my 3rd lvl infernal due to it last time ๐
+phantom XD
lol far out. Yea i like sorting this to the farm right so had to change that
yes me too putting the important ones to sides to seperate. and this happens ๐
selling system is good and fast it is okay, but just a little further would be nice ๐
An undo button for the most recent sell would fix this as well
Its certainly impractical in such a fast paced game.
Would be nice to disable the move off the board sell system entirely (in options). I always use a hotkey
This would be ideal yep
6/8
7/8
I know you just let me win.๐
I got destroyed at the end. Came 5th. I liked it better when you were all letting me win. Being first for awhile was fun. ๐
gg so close
god damn it i guessed ur position wrong
your lineup is so much less expensive but output sick dmg
4/8
7/8 go
Nice match @dusty vessel close one
Thanks legend, I actually thought I had you but you made some great adjustments
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Crazy earth mirror Deno!
went like 10 rounds at the end and we each needed 1 scarabok and didnt get t lol
We are thrilled to announce the finalists for the Gauntlet Grinders III tournament.
For those who narrowly missed the cut, don't despair.
The top 4 players based on qualification points (4 points for a win, 2 points for a second-place finish)
will be granted exclusive access to the waiting list and rewarded with Disks.
This recognizes your strong performance and provides a chance to secure a spot in the finals.
The waiting list snapshot will be taken on Friday, February 14th at 23:59 UTC.
Don't stop grinding, Rangers.
@bronze spire gg , timer so fast messed up my position :V , do u have the screen shot
damn was a close one too. Nah i dont have screen shot but can vouch if that helps
thanks , yes will do
also crypto quick chat on youtube was streaming it
refreshing takes too much time
50 energy just waiting for the beetle
could ss his 3rd place
lol yep
are these the lobbies for semis?
5/8
Congrats to everyone who made it, and goodluck to all!
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You guys are great for putting these events on ๐ฅ
3:00
All games today crashing ๐ช idk if its the patch but my games before patch were smooth
Ye might be ,
the game during this hour is horrible
is the update affecting gauntlet? ive experienced already like 6 bugs and had to restart twice
haha ok so not just me
i was playyin 10 hours ago. it had no problems
same. right now it is a disaster, for sure
i want to assume its related to the mechanics doing stuff
i cant even reconnect now im just gona bail outta this one
Trying
mine is just completely not working. i can reconnect for 1 round and need to restart it again
same
probably maintenance affecting it :p
holy i think i just sent almost 10 bug reports for different bugs
@ebon flume
it is down with maintenance
maybe the team didnt expect it to interfere but it is
IlluviDex and Beyond
Yeah
Can't be a coincidence
hopefully not, right๐ณ
I'm still mad that my MMR is gonna get crushed
definitely wasn't expected
guess we gonna wait boys
i mean, its probably gonna get reset on tournament launch anyway :p
I'm back but game wont start****
might be worth reporting a bug, but maybe not since its probably related to maintenance
When the game decides your losing no matter what you do ๐
I'm connecting and re connecting every round lol
Hopefully I'll beat you that way lol
jump in a new game
oh it's over
did you succeed?
you missed it, they launched without you
@static crane Why are you so strong?
It seems you are confusing me with someone else ๐
5/8
Soon Rich.
man my game crash
anyone??
This illuvial can be used for anything and everything ๐คฃ
7/
Wise ๐
(ั) Rai Lee the great philosopher
round 32 both 1hp left
hmmm
To confuse your master first yourself the opponent then confuse the Gauntlet.
i would like to report a murder @mighty tulip
that Bird is illegal
not kidding but my game crashed
yeah,that one did not take his ADHD medicine today
can we turm of the auto Emotes?
i have this laughing Emote that always pops up when i win๐ฌ
i think you can remove them from the 5 selections. yeah that one is rude af xD
i know,i put it in specifically for Rich but then it keeps popping up when i really dont want it to and i feel like douch
bird is the word
@west quartz gl
4 inferno 9 fire is kinda Exodia
abused
gg
Omg I want this api too pleaseeee
3/8
you need to switch it
slot 1
is the emote that plays when you win
4/8
I just realized I am no longer black rank. I'm back to orange.

You'll want a crying one Lars, because even if you win it will be by your fingernails only ๐
5/8
spent like over 100 gold and couldn't get 4 ramphies when it was down to 2 players.
is this normal?
Did he have Rhamphyre
You should have been able to get it after I was knocked out because my Rhamphite would have gone back in. Isn't that how it works?
No it was vs all nature
Exactly. I was super annoyed lol
I can see why. 
man i hope the new updates and bonding will solve the "meta" problems.
The last few patches, one of the composition is always significantly stronger than the rest. And about 3-4/8 players would go for that then the rest the players are going for other things with the right augment to try to beat the meta composition. This seems so rigid after a few games...
I wanna play 3 invoker + 3 granite vs 4 wildfire and 3 steams or whatever crazy stuff we come up with
possibly a bug where they dont go back into the pool properly
not sure if thats still a thing though
5/8 next game
7/8
5/8 in the lobby, cmon play!
no games?? stucked in 1/8
anyone?
Can't wait till we have 100's of lobbies all going at the same time. The wait is just killer
6/8 next game
i just crashed, maybe
to anyone iam playing and winning against right now,sorry for the laughing emote at the end.
its not me
unless iam playing against Rich
Kids to school?
How to level up illuvial in gauntlet?
You gotta get 3 of the same for them to evolve
your 3rd atlas will evolve into an axon for example
Ohh thanks.!
have a look at this guide
This is my full Illuvium Arena Gauntlet Guide for Beginners! But also Expert Illuvium Players will find very usefull information in it!
In this Tutorial I'm covering every single aspect of Gauntlet.
What is ILV Gauntlet? What are the best Strategies? How does Resource Management work - specially focusing on Mastery Point Management and Healt...
7/8
Guys is there rewards for leaderboard gauntlet ramked?
not yet, currently rewards only 4 tournaments in arena
They will be coming soon. Once Gauntlet is a bit more stable and they have the feautres they want, the team will roll out ranked rewards and some other exciting stuff
Perfect time to practice and be ready to compete 
define soon
You know I can't give an exact date, but I'd assume it will be within the next 1-2 months, going by past comments + rough times given. Plus, the gauntlet is looking really decent
That is considering everything goes smooth moving forward obv
But us mods, know as much as you guys do 
Illuvimods game coming
I am on a mad levelling session, soz pal
its called character building
It ripped my skin off
sweet it started
btw did you try that twitter quest thing for hunting illuivals?
I had a chance to win one last night yeah! It was 3am for me though 
Seems like it could be really cool tbh
It'll just need some people to get involved
yeah really like the concept,
Even though I only had to go hunt a T0, it reminded me of the old mega hunts
and I loved those so much - so it was sick
any lobby going on?
too many freaking crashes..this is becoming terrible..more and more..bahh
2/8
7/8 cmooooooooooon
Big team gg
Yea I got lucky on the roll
Feel like the Gauntlet is ready for mass adoption, isn't it?
Almost, not quite
Still crashes and QOL bugs
But def trending in the right direction
5/8
7/8
7/8
Jeezuz musta felt good pimp handing everyone with that team!
6/8
come play
Off to bed. Soon
7/8
last spottt
7/8
6/8 Who is ready to battle?!?!
Here some data from Ranked game since 2025-02-10, you are rank 26 with a 1.95 ratio [Game played / Points] for the Hype Gauntlet tournament ending 2025-02-14 23:59 ๐
Spoon you #17 so far pretty close keep playing and you might be reach Top16, also you Ratio is above the Avergare which
Your ratio: 3.50 Average: 2.51 (see graph)
If you like this, just imagine what I will build on illuviVault website ๐
i'm so bad... but still better than @lean ivy , so i'm happy ๐
can't wait to see that ๐
Is there any features you guys will pay to have access ?
lol here is another omega comp...4beserker 2 steam 2 slayer umbre and 4 beserker 2 arcanite scoriox lol
Oh you guys are going to like the updates with the multiplayer builds. Experience is so much better ๐
Any idea when it next update ? Anychange Ow stats will be fix at the same time ๐ซฃ
nice sheet and point system ranking ๐
Ser 4 of anything (composite) is simply too strong ๐ nothing can beat them, only another 4 of something counter
Rangers, The Gauntlet Grinders III qualifiers snapshot is happening in a few hours! Top 4 players by points earn a spot on the waiting list and Beyond DISK rewards. Keep grinding, you still have time.
I am so excited 
with those improvements the game should start getting in a really good state!
Right now there is so much diversity in the comps that can win.
You can do all in one primary like 9 (all but nature feeling a little bit weak probably because fire is a little too strong)
You can push for 4 of a composite I have seen so many win
You can do composite hybrids like vanguard behemoth or arcanite templar, slayer berserker. With a variety of colors.
It really is making the game feel like there is real agency and just fun!
Once the multiplayer servers and the stability are here along with some of those features on the Blog. I think we will actually be in a state to compete with tft! LFG
First or early of second week next month. Continuing with our monthly updates ๐
so do we have a chance of multiplayer servers then?
Not always ๐ Didn't notice it till later but he had 4 shock
he messed up some positioning and the aug placement was not optimal imho, you are right btw. player agency has a role here.
tbh i'd rather have 3 wildfire than 4 shock tho
also way rather have 3 predators than anything else
shock is not like it was few weeks ago, bit nerfed prolly? maybe?
4 inferno vs 3 pred ..i ll take it everyday
but wen I try to go inferno..the staff remains s2 even if i have enuff staffs to impress Gandalf
Yes theyโre being worked on as we speak
meaning for next patch to clarify
They typically have a mid month patch right? so I imagine 2 patches away
how come its not showing how many players?
need to restart abit
it happen sometime
Silly 9 fighter comp lol:
It sometimes does this for little longer than normal if your the 8th player
5/8 now
guys in the last 3 days i went from 2400 points to 2200 without playing a game
just so u're aware
if this were to happen when leaderboard mattered it might cause a few people to jump off a building
this is something that had to happen somewhere in the last 2 weeks, cuz let's say 10-15~ days ago everyone at the top lost 50-150 points randomly too
Victory!
crash and off sync is real bad around this time everyday
other hours of the day isn't as bad. strange
worst photoshop i have ever seen
Know what we should do to celebrate your first win in Gauntlet?
was thinking more like a trivia thing.
hello admin,
Can i suggest please as a beginner in the game if theresa possibility of a simulation practice boards basically like playing chess alone. where users can choose illuvials on both sides, levels and positions. just so beginners like me can plan ahead what to do if certain build is on the other side of the board. thank you and hopefully will be considered. โค๏ธ
Great idea! I think this would be useful for a lot of people.
Be sure to send this as a feedback report in game by pressing B and then choosing Feedback at the top, or use #โโใsupport
That way, it will go straight to the team, and not get lost in this discord!
will do boss
Attention Gauntlet Grinders. The Finals are TODAY. A huge thank you to all participants. Join us at <t:1739649600:t> for the final showdown, hosted by Caveman and streamed on all social platforms. Finalists, please meet on the HYPERION Discord server 20 mins before the event starts.
The finalists:
The 4 players of the waiting list:
Anon
Style
Sensue
lex01 | Phantom
Waiting list players will be rewarded with a Beyond Disk
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1 moreeeeeeeeeeeee
Gauntlet Leviathan 1/8 ๐ฅน
if its not displaying Que count; its bugged
Arena mode was disabled on the disc here, I only saw the messages now, I missed this tournament and it's a shame, I wish I had played]
5/8
literal 100 gold difference loses this game is actual fucking whack
i see many time this build literally wack sheet out of corner com
idk why gold exists in this game when caradulox is a 100 gold unit that only costs 9
it wasn't even about corner, mahmuth and monarch were the important units
100 gold difference gets u a coinflip chance depending on where caradulox is positioned that's crazy
It's not like I stomped you @sinful hornet ๐ . We went back and forth beating each other for a good few rounds.
It was the Target Acquired augment that won me the game. Ryplance could stay out of harms way and still deal damage
yea but that's not ok
a 100 gold in units diff should win afk
basically if you really want to you can get ur endgame comp without the chip pretty often, but to cap my comp this hard is idk 1 in 15 games maybe even more, so the fact that it doesn't even autowin is just flawed design
Hamster had a chip which is equivalent of 200 gold so ez win, simple as that
Ah yea true true
he build weapon stage-3 - it's rare. and visionary vanguard aug.
if you build rhamphy>probably you win
ohhhh ok nvm then i thought the weapon's just 2
the monarch was better rhamphy
but every round was just coinflip on where the caradulox was
but both they can kill this comp
because i either won with 30k dmg monarch or my units had no abilities
instead of snail. you will get inferno.
actually ye u're right, u think over snail instead of rake ?
snail give just psion, it's poor
ye but it gives the 20 op to monarch and scoriox
his augs much better that your's. that win game i think
u think this one's good?
also, he have put blotto, not goliant
as in the screenshot's wrong?
i mean blotto will be stronger choice that goliant.
yea
5 nature+wf
I had the Colossus shield. I was hoping to try out 4 Colossus but didn't quite get there
when you spend 40 gold for axe, not sure you whant replace it
Just curious as I've never built it before. 4 Colossus 3 verdant would have been interesting to see
and that lose to inferno)
Maybe, I'd risk a 2nd to find out
4 colossus/lvl60+2(3) mystic at leviathan
Finalists of "The Gauntlet Grinders III" pls join HYPERION Discord voice channel, thx
@woven flint you're in game afk
oh
7/8
When would be the next tournament? Or if there is one
dreamers has one within the next day
check events tab
channel*
anyone?
6/8
game started?
1 more
yup im the 7th
z.z
@bronze spire nicely played pal, did you end up winning? i had an unbeatbale team assembled, strongest team ive ever had, but game crashed so i will never know lol
i did yea we both had crazy teams haha
wp
lol thought as much, some times it jus all lines up, i was so exicted
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7/8
@calm jewel let`s do it
is the tournamet for dreamers just for subscribers?
@uneven harbor
Any planned tournament next weekend?
Today's tournament is free to enter!
We host twice at week - every Thursday and Sunday! we also have a monthly leaderboard with 23 ILV
Register here! - https://x.com/DreamerE_Sports/status/1891176127722291201
Hey Dreamers! ๐
DayDream Tournament is happening today!โare you ready to compete?
๐Tournament: https://t.co/o4M8GJMkr8
Join us at 19:00 UTC and show your skills.
Donโt forget to grab your Dream Pass & register to our Dream Ladder:
๐Dream Ladder: https://t.co/X5iYPZ799W
There's no more community tournaments because we're just waiting for the next patch to come and we'll have the official tournaments and leaderboard rewards Copium
Isn't that gonna take months?
it's already been months 
I was really enjoying playing these tournaments
Who said there wont be more, is that official?
We are not planning in stopping our weekly tournaments instead we are working on scaling our tournaments and make them more engaging!
Hi Guys , @violet summit what are you talking about it ??? It is 2 turnaments every week and leadebord to ! @uneven harbor
They are sleeping ?
Was yesterday one of the great Turnaments
Today we got Dream Esport Turnament at 19:00
Guys wake up you got youโre chance
Register now and
Just 30 min!
Stop talking have some reall play
@sinful hornet come and register
@violet summit you to man
We need you
Sorry but I cannot play today, maybe later
@violet summit no wories my friend you are gonna be always welcome to the turnaments
It is one on Thursday and one Sunday
Everyone is super welcome!
Thursday and Sunday ๐
6/8 next game
Watch with us DayDream Tournament with @valid stirrup and @arctic steppe !
Dreamers๐
Follow our DayDream Tournament with @Anubi94x and @NarebaCrypto
Be Dreamers, Shape your future!โก๏ธ
9 earth 3 mud is so broken lol
GG bud ! it was insanely difficult against that !
GG, yeah it felt cheesy playing that but I wanted to try it ๐
no worries it s not, it s so hard to get the 3 mud + titanor, well it s fully deserved
anyone wanna pay
is there a game going on?
do we know when we can use ranger and drone skins in gauntlet? so far I can only select beyond skins
2/8๐
so no game?
I can't think it's possible that in the whole world there are 2 of us in the last half hour wanting to play this game
there are 8 billion people in the world and no one wants to play this game, there must be more people right now playing pong on the commodore 64
how can this thing be possible, I invested 6000 euros in this project, because the idea was fantastic and everything led to success, how is all this possible?
there were supposed to be rewards, and within two months they were blocked
now what I purchased will be worth not even a tenth of what I spent and nothing is done, I've been behind all this for 5 years
not even those who create it and work on it play it
what s that?
3/8
I would gladly play Gauntlet Leviathan with you.
But is it really possible to gather 8 players?
we are 3 on normal one๐
The normal Gauntlet is boring ๐ฆ
It's much more interesting to play with your NFTs. 
I have a "ready to go" thing to populate the ranked gauntlet today...but I need a green flag from the team otherwise we will just sit here waiting for the so called good times
7/8!
7/8
anyone??
3/8
come playy
7/8
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6/8
7/8
I would love to play more, but waiting 20 min for a game is just not possible all the time. We need more players ๐ฅฒ
Once the game is complete, weโll reintroduce leaderboard incentives and launch a marketing push to attract more players.
In the meantime, I completely understand the frustration. Thank you for your patience as we elevate the game to a top-tier experience in the autobattler genre.
How do you rate current patch compared to the patches of 2-3 months ago in terms of u being addicted to the game?
In my opinion, the current patch is worse than previous ones due to the dominance of the vertical meta. Additionally, this vertical meta feels more stagnant and offers less skill expression compared to a composite-driven meta.
We recognize this issue and will be addressing it.
At the same time, as you guys know, weโve been analyzing the bigger picture and are working on a full revamp designed to enhance both game variance and skill expression.
glad im not the odd man out then, gives me hope that you usually nail the feeling of the game
yeah..we already talked bout this..you remember yes ser? ๐
Also, FYI:
The next balance patch is set for early next month, launching alongside the regular monthly update. This patch will address the vertical meta along with other balance adjustments.
After that, we plan to resume a biweekly balance update schedule.
In parallel, weโre developing a major balance patch that will:
- Tackle macro gameplay issues identified in recent months.
- Double down on the elements that we have identified as more enjoyable based on our criteria and community feedback.
- Adjust to the upcoming game-changing features, which will significantly shake up the game as you know it.
One huge super bad feeling on this kind of patch is that lack of scouting makes it be way worse than it should imo too, cuz at some point u're just flipping a coin and have to commit.
I canโt share more details, but the feeling youโre describing will soon be significantly reduced.
Ggwp
@west plume

Awesome,i shall use it often.thank you
man the lynx is tanky as fork
me too me too all of them are strong
but not too strong๐
Please delete this before Nil sees it
there is a chance we might need for 2/8 and up aswell
@west plume how was the video in youre ideea
Which one?
@west plume ๐ Vortex Unit ๐ https://x.com/Anubi94x/status/1891895668840509761
๐ Vortex Unit ๐
@illuviumio @Immutable
#TFT #TeamfightTactics #TFTGuide #TFTMeta #TFTSet13
๐ฎ Game : https://t.co/Airvz3rL3w
Awesome,will have a look
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@west plume after when you see let me youre feedback on it please so i can now how to improve
I really enjoyed it and trying it out again,you explain well your tought prossess on placement and how to survive the early game,hope you make more of these for other comps
Coming asap
what about now?
Is team considering 4 players or something for the game instead of 8 in total? I am keep seeing players waiting for 30 mins to play the game because they need to wait for 8 players... @zenith mortar ?
need stable game (no crashes), multiplayer server (scouting ect) and range of other features before considering anything like that i think
or i more mean hard to judge right now since its bascially in alpha/beta
4 player's not solving anything, realistically they'll have the improvements + the leaderboard rewards and ur queues should fill whithin minutes
I am not a arena player but i notice players keep waiting to make the required players available and i feel the pain without playing the game here...
Correct. They should improve rewards and competition for it
yea they games usually fill, seems like always atleast 1 game going at a time, so often if you miss it you have to wait 30mins
ive never had it not fill and i play oce times which is lowest player times
@worn tree #๐ฃใannouncements message
Hi! I'm really excited that leaderboard rewards will be returning in mid-March.
I wanted to clarifyโwill both Gauntlet Ranked and Gauntlet Leviathan paid leaderboards be introduced at the same time?
where did it say mid march? thats awesome
Who said leaderboards rewards will return mid march?
This is step one in the rebuild. Now we have the runway, and it will continue to be extended.
Enormous updates are coming mid-next month: Auto drone runs, multiplayer servers, and leaderboards reactivated.
28-3 down with 2 minutes to go in the third quarter. We're about to run
last i heard aiming for april
Enormous updates are coming mid-next month: Auto drone runs, multiplayer servers, and leaderboards reactivated.
interesting
maybe those updates starting mid-next month, not all at once
Right, itโs getting closer and closer!
Iโm so excited to have rewards back too! 
Sorry, but I'd rather ask a "stupid" question and be sure than stay silent and regret it later.
It's February now. The post says "leaderboards reactivated" in the middle of next month.
Just to clarifyโdoes this mean that in mid-March, we will start receiving ILV tokens for ranking high on the leaderboard?
its kieran, lets just keep april๐
better to be surprised in mid march than dissapointed in april
Itโs not a stupid question, but I canโt share any details just yet. When the time comes, weโll make sure to update you on how the system will work.
There were recent posts on Twitter mentioning that many mistakes were made.
Is it really possible that after so many mistakes, there will now be public misinformation regarding timelines? I tend to trust the CEO's words, even though I have had unfortunate experiences with this in the past.
When someone in such a position makes a public statement, I believe they should stand by their words
I understand what you are saying but ive been with the project for a long time and in my opinion Kieran is more hype than promise. But we will see. I hope you are right
Yes, I understand what you're saying. I've personally experienced similar promises before.
But I just hope that this time, real work has been done to address the mistakesโ not only the technical ones, but also the promises.
The weight of one's words is incredibly important.
Is there a chance that bonding the Ranger with Illuvials will be added before the rewards for the leaderboard?
5/8
i think he more means those updates are starting mid next month, im not expecting rewards to be out straight away
@west plume 
Lol
Rangers, sharpen your weapons. Starting Monday, The Infinite Grind is here.
Dynamic mini-leaderboards reward skill and dedication.
HYPE and Illuvium are excited to present this new competitive experience.
Are you ready to make your mark? ๐ฅ
Ready
To qualify for waiting list
lol
no waiting list ser, just play and have fun
info and rules on HYPE Discord or scanning the QR
@twilit storm so if I read it right, points can only go up, is that correct?
If you place 5th-8th you don't lose any points?
and also, do we need to send any screenshots?
no screenshot and yes points only goes up.
We have the average points per game that will make it more granular
do you have a link not just qr?
we will post an announcement with all the info and rules on HYPE discord soon.
https://x.com/Phantom_ilv/status/1891694296769696130
Don't forget legends! This Weekend, $1000 on the Line in another Phantom Tournament!
You don't have to qualify, just sign up and play, there are still spots left!
Tourney is happening 8AM UTC on Saturday 22nd!
done.
Even if I don't have time to play I was missing so hard leaderboards competition, very happy to see it back โค๏ธ
๐คบ Letโs go โฆ no more waiting in the queue โฆ Thanks Quants , always big brain ๐ง ๐ช
so can we see like updates mid ladder or can we only know positions at the end
snapshot every 24 hours,..for now.
good enough
Really like the new system,well done.
Shoutout to @dark scaffold and @languid sparrow , their brains made this possible.
don't take this as complaining but wouldn't it make more sense to have top 4 give points and bot 4 substract? Im thinking about the math of just ffing on an 8th as soon as u load in to get a queue with worse players if the queue timers aren't dead
not sure about Linky, but in my case it was my slave AI ๐คฃ
no slave was involve for me here ๐ lol
Link to hype discord?
Yea id also suggest that for the next one @twilit storm , or if its possible to change it before it would be fantastic
Not only it can be abused like hollow say but it reduces skill expression while encouraging no lifing
2nd point doesn't apply, there's no points for 5-8, it just encourages u to get out of the game instantly if u see a lobby with 2-3 good players and go farm some noobs for a 1st instead
just make a smurf account
with low elo
yea that's exactly it
My 2nd point has to do with the fact that you cant lose points
For example a mediocre player who plays 20 games and place 10 1st places and 10 8th would have the same score has the best player who played only 10 games and placed 1st in all of them
In a normal system the normal mediocre player would have ~0 points here
Would work if there were 1k+ qeueing AT the Same time ๐
there only needs to be 12-15~
Theres no matchmaking it doesnt matter whats your elo
you only need to get out of slickz/foxpirit lobby once and then u can dodge them for the whole day
it does for new players when they see high elo player, they will wait and just re q
GL to everyone !!!! I want my 360$ a week
I will be getting all the noobs๐ฅณ
I might actually start playing this sober 
i doubt most of them would recognize their names, u can just do the play on smurf to auto concede if u care about ur current points for some reason
it depends if they do a soft reset or a full reset for points
eventually there will be
I'm talking about old system ranked
gl im immortal
and Foxspirit
Average point per match will kill you..but hey u can try
but that's only tiebreaker
if i change name. how my points count?
is it by player name, or blokchain number?
but honestly good money, 360$ weekly in another country is big money
we need anonimous mode. so noone play against/around you.
if foxpirit, slickz and web3 play in the same queue a lot of time their EV is 4 points a game, if i leave every game with them in it in theory and then get a fast queue into noobs my ev is 6+
so i'd just be way ahead in points assuming i'm the only one abusing
need to see, how this LB will work. if need play 14 hours every day to be top-1, prob it's not worth
it's better than the 10 hours i was playing for free
you still can play 52 hours and get nocked out of top-4 and get nothing
i would be very surprised
check last qualify for phantom tournament. it was 8 players with top-1 everyday
but that's just 2 games
it was 2 top-1. but most of time, you have play 3-5 games every day, and it was still close.
i think unless 3 of us just perma play in the same lobbies and someone else is queuing with ghost accounts for free wins most will be in the top 4
The objective of this tournament is to encourage game play and reduce que time. I understand the top seed players are theory crafting how to min-max their time to win the prize. But even the recreational players will benefit from it bc it will save us a lot of time from waiting around.
My point is, don't be too critical with the structure of this 3rd-party community project.
i was playing max 3 games average for the 1sts
this is 3 lines of useless text no offense, there's an exploit here that can be fixed ->as far as i know->easily
you can even only deduct points for 8 and 7 just to prevent the insta ff
and not make legit players afraid to play
Well let me further summarize what I said lol.
Stop bitching
Gl you gotta go through me
You are theory crafting ppl gonna ff bc they see top rank players and they give a fk about the points for a $800 prize pool
Reality is. I'm a recreational player. I just want no que time and I want to play against yall to learn the use of augment n other things.
bro reality is im ffing insta and going to farm my 8 points instead of the 2-4
reality is you're not competing for the top 4
just get good and compete with top 4 lmao
just get good at math
yes, but at other hand - 4-10 players, have play 24-7
you have scenario 1 with 6 points EV u have scenario 2 with 4 points EV, unless there's actually no more than 1 queue at the same time u always take scenario 1
i do because there's 2 players max i'd care to dodge
and if they're all in the other game i just got myself +2 EV
at the cost of a few minutes
if you're that good you're better off training against them to skill up for when better rewards come in
we're talking about rewards here in the first place
we're maximizing money EV here
most of game now not about skill ๐
and when u got 3 players on roughly the same level even if one's +5% better u're still basically 3 way coinflipping
so whoever gets out of that lobby to go farm noobs is the winner
i agree. play untill legendary aug, if you in strong lobby>got good aug, try get 1st. got usseles>go next
Unless these new rewards bring back more good players
Outside of web3 and maybe patate none of the former top players are currently active
You may end up having more than 2 people to dodge
I'm THE top player
need to update my list to 3 people
Hahahahha indeed my bad sorry for the mistake Rich
*4
if the lobby has 8 players i might as well get out
Or just use it as a learning opportunity
See it as an investment if you prefer
Cause if at some point the avengers pull up because some juicy rewards kick in and you have to handle viper smart ads zadkiel and co gatekeeping the top ladder youโre gonna wish you trained more ๐
Or worst, itsmartini
when this time come to us, it will be x100 other players. and it's other game. you should play just against time to grind ladderboard points
at ascendant - you play 1-1. and as higher you climb by ladderboard - as higher opponents you play against.
that not work for gauntlet now.
Being good at games is being good at games
These all hit master/challenger in tft as well, they can easily steamroll the current ladder with minimum efforts
the game doesn't work like that, when u have close to equal levels the game decides who wins and if there's differences of 5% u only see them in hundreds of games, the whole point of this is when your goal is to get the money it's better if the incentive of you abusing the system is worked on from the start so you're not even given the chance to abuse it
also at that point u learn more not playing than playing
What if you instantly leave the lobby, and the other 2 good players do the same, then you all 3 end up in another lobby
The system will regulate itself
man what are u even saying, u think all 3 of us are clicking ff at the exact same time or what
you can made agreement if that happend. who leave game 1st ๐
you don't have to do that
there's legit no reason to leave as 2nd guy
but when the first guy left he gave himself better EV and the other 2 guys also got higher EV
and it took 1 minute
Assuming the second lobby is easier
bro if there's 3 good players in the game yes the 2nd lobby is easier
So that applies to what ? Top 5 people on the entire game ?
btw. if it group of 8 players, who can just que and leave from game. and farm points for 4 choisen.
i don't find in rules something about that
i think u legit don't even know about the event and are just typint for the sake of typing
yea i thought of this too
i don't understand all this need for philosopical talk when the fact is there's an exploit that if only 1 of the 3-5 players does it then he will be 1st
So the top players can have better earnings because they can abuse lobbies with worst players ? Seems tragic indeed ๐
but for the grouping part i think there's still be low enough playerbase that it's catchable if people care to catch it
actually u can abuse this insanely hard cuz u just ff in order tho so it has to be checked
Easy, let me explain. I randomly saw this chat were you were trashtalking and thought Iโd join because I have free time and think itโs fun ๐
trashtalking?
Yeah that falls under the trash talk scope in my book ๐
must have a million pages in that book then
Still, consistently smashing people bad at the game eventually makes you worse, while people playing against the top players will improve, so if you keep doing so theyโll catch up and youโll end up having way more than 2 people to avoid
do you play at current gauntlet, or is it just basic vision?
there is no top, there's 2 lobbies going at the same time if u're lucky
half the lobbies are as useful to improving as bot games
i'd say, in half of lobby you have to imagine which strats your opponents play and build something different>than you win.
but players who not play strats>just play units (deck of psion+fighter+rog) pick units from every strat. it's hard play against them, coz you never know, do they thief everything you need or not.
so - you mostly not improve, but play against random. legendary aug, strat choice and how fast you got/even got your units.
I started playing a bit again, but thatโs true for any discipline
And you want to dodge the other half ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
Rich is right here
His photoshop skills has improved alot
Itโs live action on X
Are you streaming on X?
no JB was
Photoshop again @west plume ?
GG Bois
@gloomy grove If you swapped sides i think you beat me
GG though
Yes and used AI
anyone can see it Rich
Poor Peter 
I agree with this. This system is easily abused with almost no upside. The only thing it does is make the game more unfair and worsen the player experience.
It seems some people are not understanding Hollowโs point here. What he is saying is that if you want to win, the most important factor is your average points per hour. With this system, some games will give you a higher overall point total over 36 hours by surrendering, which should never be the case.
I would suggest something along the lines of:
1st: 10
2nd: 8
3rd: 6
4th: 4
5th: -4
6th: -6
7th: -8
8th: -10
If you want to encourage people to not stop playing because they don't wanna lose you can even have 8th be - half of what 1st gives, 7th be like -3 and 6 and 5 almost 0, but this would be enough to make insta ff not worth
That only works if youโre the only one using that strategy
man you seriously can't reason
If every game ยซย weakย ยป players instantly surrend the top 4 gets faster points
Did you want me to change the RNG back now before they notice? ๐
there's realistically 3 to max 5 players that can use this at all
If this is the case, then it isnโt a problem
And anyone can surrend to have an ยซย easierย ยป lobby
the leaderboard reward is for top 4 man
and there's like a 20-32 playerbase of total players
They are already suspicious
I can, youโre just stuck on that one scenario you thought about ๐
the scenario i've had to use multiple times and will have to use again if it's not fixed
Letโs say youโre in a lobby with the top 4 players, you wanna instantly surrend, then all the other players can
im not sure if i understand this correctly but do you guys mean since there is no matchmaking between elo , ppl can just surrend into lobies where only lower players are to get always 1st cause the last place didnt take to much -lp
And why wouldnโt they
So youโre giving a boost to the top 4 of the lobby because theyโll just play a fast 4 persons game
brooo, one guy does it, the others don't need to anymore man, the math changes instantly, that's why they won't do it cuz it's just simple goddamn math
I think you really donโt understand math as well as you think
i think u've never been close to competitive level at a game in ur life
If you think itโs better for you to surrend, then the others might think the same
I donโt recall ever seing you in the top ranks of arena back when we had rewards though ๐
almost like i wasn't playing
up to the organizers, i've already went through this exact shit in other crypto games and people always got mad after i did exactly what i told them was the corect play
You enter a lobby, top 3 players of the ladder are here, so you ff, but you expect others wonโt. Except they have the same reasoning as you so they do. And the top 4 people of the lobby get easy fast points. While you wasted time in queue
Maybe because it isnโt the correct play then ?
yeah
ye that's exactly why me and the others who did it were so far ahead bro must've been the wrong play
make low players can abuse but they will never catch high ranks with this method
lower*
cause in the real time the good player will not only lose less points but also get more points
You think you had the 200 iq analysis because you thought ยซย wait I can ff and go fasterย ยป, not taking into account that if this is the ยซย right playย ยป, then others will do it, making your strategy less effective than just playing it normal
u failed monty halls problem
You assume others wonโt ff and only you will do it, as if it was a static situation you can abuse
yeah didnt even saw this from this side
Iโm just telling you that there are 8 people at play here, and you assume you can abuse the system by doing something that they wonโt do, but if they do, youโre screwed
If you canโt take multiple scenarios into account but still think youโre a genius, well, enjoy ๐
but why we not just take the system of tft i dont understand , its proofed and nobody care about a system which is coopied
if the whole game and gameplay has different style and mechanics
Weโre talking about Hype event planning to give rewards
oh haha i though u mean the elo system
No no not the Elo system
but i dont understand why even care about the event system
the ppl who talk right now come anyway always into final
its whatever
because if you're a top 3-4 player ur best play is to ff instantly to go farm noobs the moment u queue into other 2 good players
He thinks the points system has to be changed because it can be abused by surrendering if the lobby has too good players
ah okay u guys mean its just to much time waste
what
no that's the problem there's no time wasted
it's time gained
for the ffer
Unless more people ff
Then time is gained for people that remain
๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
gauntlet currently has 2 modes right now: queue into specific 4~ players and coinflip some positions all the way from 1 to 4, or queue into not those players and have insanely free top 2
bro, if there's 4 good players in the lobby their EV is terrible, if only 1 leaves those 3 players still have worse EV in that lobby than the guy who ffed and got into noob queue, and nobody's fucking ffing after the first guy to go queue into coinflip when he aleready has coinflip left here
If there are 4 good players, what makes you think the 4 worst players wonโt instantly ff
It would be in their interest to ff
why the fuck do i care about the worse players man
See, thatโs the whole problem
if they do that i just got free points what are u even on about
You thought about this from your only perspective not expecting others people to act on the situation
broo the worse players have no chance to win at all, they're irrelevant man
You need to study some game theory before talking like a big boy ๐
They are
so how did my situation change at all then please explain
if a guy who had no chance to place above me ffed
bros i think we should just relac and take a step back , everything is in experimental state right now its good that you discuss this and make your points about this and the tournament organizators will read this , but how i understood your points if the system is like both how explained it its balancing it out anyway if to much people will abused it
in one or the other way
What really matters isnโt how many points you get, itโs how many points you get compared to the other top players. If you identify top players in your lobby and ff, assuming this is the correct logical choice, then others will do the same until only 4 players remain in the lobby. Which grants the 4 remaining players fast points. So youโre allowing those person to get more points compared to you because they get a free top 4 AND a fast game.
While you wasted time in queue, then ff and waste some more time in queue, then have to make an 8 players lobby game
Agreed time to chill. I will also remind you that we have rules about exploitation and that includes trying to game any ranking or leaderboards.
Well Iโm chill ๐
why put the exploit in there when the fix takes 2 minutes, it's like giving a madman a nuke and acting surprised when he used it
and i've seen this multiple times in crytpo games and they never catch all the abuser so it just fucks everything up
Weโll get around this fixing things like this, but i think we can all agree that the higher priority is sorting out other things like crashes, things to bring more people in etc ๐
ok maybe you don't have the full context here
we're not talking about ladder per say
we're talking about the 3 day event rules
The priority is to bring back ranger bonding ๐
so this is not something the team would have to spend any time on
It's more complex than that. There isn't just one scenario where you can FF; there will be several throughout the game. Let's say you roll 80% of your gold and donโt find much at all, and you also have a couple of bad augments. In that case, it's most likely better to FF and move on based on your position in the game. Skilled players can usually tell how strong their position is, even from the early rounds, and then make their decisions accordingly.
This also changes how the game is played compared to how itโs meant to be played. Now, youโre somewhat forced to play for first place because of the point structure, and it doesnโt even matter whether you finish in 5thโ8th place. Whatโs good about this?
You can argue about how effective this method is, but the only real debate is about the extent of its negative impactโit still has a negative impact. From your perspective, whatโs wrong with negative points, and why are you arguing so heavily against them?
This makes it so to win u need the highest points per hour, which means that to win the best play is to not play vs good players, this exact event i've already played before in other games, some listened and prevent the abuse in 2 minutes some had the noobs mad at them cuz they didn't play properly so they got way less rewards than the ones who did
you substract points for 8th and 7th and the problem's solved before it even existed
its one tournament,would make sense to see how it goes..
okay i somehow agree with how u explain this , would this stop with leaderboard rewards cause u cant waste your right now "useless lp" anymore cause it will have value again?
and kieran said leaderboard rewards are coming soon back againn
then they can ff anymore without taking damage
nothing even stops u from playing the event on a smurf if u care about ur points
allowed one account every 24 hours
idk how was it called again
verification
with pass and everything
and phone number
to make a account
i don't remember having to use a phone number
but i know i have 2 accounts with different emails
i think since we are a "crypto" game and having something on the line
i really don't remember it being more than email
but nah it would make onboarding horrible
your right
yeah
the system need to be perfect
but having like 10 screens of wall of text back and forth for something so obvious is really stupid
yeah hard
but tbh bro would it even effect the real skillfull players from winning every tournament or getting into every tournament , cause they will get there anyway always cause they are better no?
cause with the abusable tactic u pay with hours
and the good player will not need the hours
the will get in before
well if u leave this exploit open i can tell u 3 people in top 4 guaranteed
no this is the variable, if u have 2 queues at the same time one of the good players gets out of the good players lobby and just farms noobs
if u only have 1 queue it isn't doable
but if 100$ for 3 days doesn't bring in at least 8 other players then idk
ah okay now i understand i saw this from another perspectiv cause for me right now 2-5 god players and like 10 really good players and u mean if we have like 100-200 god or good players and tournament size is only 32 or 62 some of them get screwed by this then
cause i always saw it from the point how it is now
no, for me there's 3 players i'd consider dodging, so now if i can insta get out of 2 of those game and get into a noob lobby i get rewarded and they get punished
yeah but right now it wouldnt make the overall outcome of the tournament different
at the end the best win anyway
we see this every tournament
the best come in and play
it changes placements around
the guy who abuses gets higher than the ones who dont
tbh bro idk for me im hangover in some tournaments maybe playing at 30% and i always come to finals i feel no effect
even if the rolls are bad
only when the last 8 players are there its hard
let's start by saying i couldn't care less about negative points.
the goal of this event isn't for us to make money, it's to reduce queue times and create an incentive for people to play. so if someone wants to chain ff anytime he sees any competition in a lobby, reducing everyone's queue time in the process i'm all for it.
i'm mostly arguing because it amuses me to see someone speak like he's a math god while he can't process basic game theory
just want to say with this i think if the skill is there it doesnt really matter
my game theory is not the same as u when there's 3 people in the game worth dodging
also, considering we still have many crashes/bugs, i feel like we shouldn't be too punitive to the people getting a bottom 4
already sucks enough to lose a game out of a bug, would make it even more tilting if you lost event points
yeah the bugs and crashes tilt me for sure more then anything else and thats what they fix right now + the new updates , i think after this all comes out and the tournament organizators need to change there stuff too then when everything is in a final state then we can focus more about balance and abuse
cause if they fix stuff now
and in one month need changes come then need to fix again
new*
if you restart the game after every single game it usually doesn't crash
brother i did before tournament , not often it good alot better but i still get things about its about my hardware but i think my hardware is right in middle what the most people have
but good better then in the past for sure
like if u lose your winstreak or just your thoughts and focus and 1-2 rolls where u where before its hard tilt and i never asked in a tournament to remake still cause we i know it will get better
5/8
7/8
I think the best players will feel they can top 4 even if things aren't going well the first half of the game, never know what aug you will high roll later or if you can out position or get lucky and verse a favourable match ups more in final rounds. Especially when you consider you are likely having to wait in que anyway.
I agree adding a negative to finishing bottom 4 is better though. But only if its easy enough for organisers? not sure if they are relying on screen shots or not. If they are than can see that being a real pain to manage
crashes and disconnects will have a major impact if ppl get negative points for that reason. We will have time to adjust..let s see how the first 72 hours session goes. Nothing is set in stones.
if my game crash at round 1 - and i can't reconnect, thats fine if i start search next game? - it's not against explotation?
If you genuninely cant reconnect that's okay. They were talking about purposely disconnecting to boost elo, which when rewards are introduced would be a problem ๐
with my current elo - top-8 give -50 top-1 give +7. so - insta leave not problem with boost elo.
but with current LB tournament - let's say Hollow leave after round 1 - he got DC and leave or he abuse something?
not abusing if it not an advantage so id say no
yes, you can play for top-4, and get 1 point, or you can lose fast and start next game and have higher chances for 4-8.
i dont think he will be scared enough of 4 players in his lobby to risk waiting in a 20-30min que for another game he might be less scared of lol
i look for some games on screen. at night EU time - much of games was with 2-3 afk, or with poor deck.
and when i come at 3 pm UTC play and play against 3-4 top player, it's different games.
when every game i have to play like in finals
it's depend how long que time will be
ok yea this might be true but that is a completely different thing
yea no way of telling, so highly doubt he will risk it. Its likely not to be instant
if you know exact time - 10min looking for game - it's mean you can play till round 9. and than if "disconnect" happend - you can insta start next game
thats also super not fun and just looks bad. Also giving your competitors free top 3 in that case
but if you stay with them - it's mean with 70-80% chances next game you will play again with them
so - you can get in bad roll, and have to take bathroom after every game
true, i guess thats fair game, if top players dont want to verse eachother i guess one of them has to risk a que time
no real way around it when you consider crashes ect too common to be giving negatives which i think is fair
yes, but that happend with everyone. at previous qualify on Hype tournament i disconnect all day at every game. sometimes 2-3 dc in 1 game. i was in fire, but still got in fast.
at previous Phantom tournament - everyone in lobby dc 2-3 times on last game - but we finish it.
yea there is some crashes you cant get back into though
happend with me only if that last round
yea, i think leave it as is. If top players want to dodge other top players than guess its part of the game/rules, and i dont think any will though. They risk que time + ego loss + cringe
no cringe, just math.
that math is part of the game/rules. All fair imo
its clearly not a super serious tourney, many more flaws than the ones we are talking about too
is it made gentleman agreement at 2nd day against rules?
lets say - after 24 hours we will see leaders. and 4 will be far ahead of other. and we all decide stop try hard at this point?
i think thats a good call yea
Yeah, GG. Tnks for te game
7/8
When a new player start in Gauntlet what is the default rating ?
I think it's like 1300-1400
Might be wrong, but pretty sure that's where I was by memory
kind of need the exact number :D, thx anyway
1200
loading up
still spots left for the tournament on saturday!
ranked 2/8
hey where do we see the leaderboard?
in game before you go into que for game
6/8
7/8
I thought it was 1200 or 1250
5/8
Would love to join these but they are just bit to early for me
in summer we will swap timezones around! ๐
Stuart please understand, no it's not about boosting elo, it's about boosting points gained in a 3rd party event at the expense of ur elo, you're actually griefing yourself for the illuvium ladder
i will absolutely ff a bad start in any lobby that has both foxpirit and slickz together unless i do it once and have to wait 20 minutes in queue and there's no actual noobs to farm
it's just the optimal way to play
2/8๐ญ
Than I think fair game, donโt really see too much issue if thatโs the case. Just a game within a game ๐
Unless the gentlemen agreement is made like Fox suggested
there is another thing you can do if there's dead queues at a certain point get 7 other random people with you and farm them and be above everyone by 100 points
but for 100-160$ i can see no one bothering to do this hopefully
yea exactly and usually atleast a few qued in a dead que that could probs spot that / win the lobby
Anyone want to speculate what this means?
https://x.com/kieranwarwick/status/1892438762359070796?s=46&t=_162LfDX7Pl5brRIuSRWEQ
@Web3GamingTv The first official tournament is shaping up to be a banger. Think the voice.
the thing he already talked about where you team up with pros from other games?
yea tried to ask him if he meant the tv show with singers + 4 judges haha
Sorry haha