🎮〕illuvium-arena

[zenith bough]

it's a funny one

😄

ascendant in leviathan is so awesome. every match is different

[distant lintel]

Oh man this triggered my PTSD form enchanter meta.

[zenith bough]

how so?

[distant lintel]

I hope it never returns ^ ^

[zenith bough]

isn't that still the meta?

[distant lintel]

everything was going into overtime and overtime decided who wins

[zenith bough]

ooooh

the old magma enchanter

[distant lintel]

but pretty interesting how that axodon was able to sol otank entire team

especially in early rounds

[zenith bough]

yeah

the omega boost really does something in leviathan

it's so bad in normal ranked

[distant lintel]

and you probably got perfect augments for al lthat lol

[zenith bough]

shield keeps getting popped, and even when it doesn't, it does absolutely no damage

[zenith bough]

lifesteal is good. the other was meh

[distant lintel]

didn you get energy regen on floodd?

[zenith bough]

yeah. that was pretty good too

😂

[west plume]

Are you using full stat illuvials, I want to have a go but I am nowhere near where I want for my Stat-focused deck.

[zenith bough]

most of them are high stat

[west plume]

I have maybe 4 that are high stat the rest is meh

[zenith bough]

I have an InvokeTheWild deck I wanna try in leviathan, if you wanna do one game

[west plume]

Iam not at my desk right now, maybe later if you are on?

[zenith bough]

I am!

[spring elm]

i have problems lately with arena matches, they keep freezing in all mods( ranked,survival..) could it be anaything else but int conection?

sometimes i have this mssg, other times it does not freez, but timer is like stuck

and problems usually start later, like after couple of matches in ranked, or later waves in survival

[worldly token]

getting closer to actually having a team for arena 😁👍
not sure if I will have a chance if everyone is playing dust rogues

[shy estuary]

Where can I download the Arena?

[silver merlin]

Well guess I'm definitely give up then, didnt do that wel in the first one anyway

[distant lintel]

in ascendant before games with someone who has 600 rating lower or so there should be a question " do yo uaccept " and option to decline .There is NOTHIGN i can get from winning and if i disconnect, bug or just make a mistake and loose im loosing massive amount of points.

[west plume]

Are you on VPN?

[spring elm]

no

[shy estuary]

It isn't available on Epic.

[jade pecan]

it’s in the main game, beside the Overworld is the Arena, you dont have to download anything else.

[misty yew]

how long to find for opponent?

[shy estuary]

Thank you.

[zenith bough]

When cancel button is grey, you can never get a match.

You need to back (top left) and try again

[misty yew]

is it a bug? i tried again many times. still grey

[supple epoch]

@misty yew skill level

You get pushed back more ppl line up closer

[misty yew]

i already restarted the game still grey cancel

[misty yew]

what should i do?

its okay now i just log out and re login\

[distant lintel]

oh COME on ! one time i have something nice prepared for late game we don;t get to play lategame?!?!

[storm wyvern]

bro i cant find a match how to fix

[abstract finch]

yea @ this game is inconsistent @ time you can win 6 straight and the game wont end

and if you lose 2 straight its over

[misty yew]

try to log out and re log in

[storm wyvern]

yours worked?

[storm wyvern]

log out on epic games?

[distant lintel]

whoa, nice 2 wins in a row : looks like you have me figured out now 😄

[abstract finch]

i jsut got lucky you didnt move the bomerang.

[distant lintel]

as you said few days ago : mistakes are not luck ;P

also, i really messed up transition into aegis, i could get it 1 round earlier

and i don;'t really know how to use it well

not sure how to actually position them and what units i want boosted

[abstract finch]

are you prepping for leviathon

[distant lintel]

im trying to get at least 1 good stat, but im not expecting to be able to compete with people who have perfect stat illuvials

[lean ivy]

Craziest game yet. Could have got 100hp win if it wasn't for @ashen mango

[zenith bough]

Hey everyone! We have a hacker in our midst. Only way to get that many stage 3’s

[supple epoch]

Why am i geting invalid team ?

[olive hedge]

some illuvials you cant add if u dont own them

[supple epoch]

I own them must be one of freebees

[olive hedge]

these and the ones you own are they only ones you can add, you also need the previous stage of an illuvial

[olive hedge]

do you have the stage 1 ant eater?

[olive hedge]

hard to say what wrong, i am trying to make a team now , see how i go

[supple epoch]

@olive hedge it was a bug my exallted air doka had shopping cart by it

I unchecked it recheck looks ok now

[misty yew]

in the illuvium

[olive hedge]

sweet!

[supple epoch]

@olive hedge thxs for caring haha

[misty yew]

click the right arrow on the top left screen to log out

[olive hedge]

always 🤜 🤛

[icy marsh]

Anybody wants to play Gauntlet for practice? We need 2 more in Illuvium Voice

[dawn shale]

Been trying to find a ranked forever, I think it bugged

Or can it take more than 20 mins?

[supple epoch]

@icy marsh still playing ?

[tranquil stratus]

the tier 5 joke 11k damage second of their team 1k my character 0 damage was instakilled...

[silver merlin]

Bugged, is your cancel button greyed out?

Oh that was half an hour ago mb

[pale cradle]

I'm legit just just playing against the same guy over and over again in arena wtf. On a 6 streak

[distant lintel]

is his name gaudi?

[pale cradle]

@distant lintel lol no, its not ai

I reset game and seems to be fixed

[distant lintel]

Well there are not many people playing arena ascendant, i meet same few people all the time aswell.Most people play in overworld.

[pale cradle]

Ya I seem the same people all the time

Wish there was a chat

that worked

[winter breach]

There is a chat, press "Y"

[broken hull]

anyone playing survival rn

[jade pecan]

wat up?

[fathom niche]

is anyone fighting for ILV or fight for ETH or anything like that yet? are people betting money on their games?

[olive hedge]

U rang 🤣

People are playing for fun and for collecting airdrop points. No betting on battles yet

[fathom niche]

ok, but that will happen eventually right?

[jade pecan]

Definitely

[olive hedge]

Or at least betting Illuvials

[fathom niche]

why isn't it out yet? I'm 🤏 this close to coding it myself

[jade pecan]

ask @zenith mortar

[silver merlin]

We don't use that phrase anymore for a long time ser

[fathom niche]

looks like I'm touching a sensitive topic here lol

[zenith bough]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[fathom niche]

100 dms and I'll do it

[broken hull]

today's set on survival is hard huh

i cant get pass through wave 19

[misty yew]

i wish there's like a illuvial dex, that you can see all your captured and those not

[jade pecan]

team builder and filter "Own"

[silver merlin]

They are working on that I think

[torpid cave]

Why arena sa not procedding it stock on the game

[noble hinge]

I think @vernal forum would DM you 100 times to get this done.

[viscid otter]

Is it better to have a few high tier illuvials, or many weaker ones?

[tight swift]

someone wants to play Gauntlet?

[safe stirrup]

Is there a prize pool for the gauntlet tournament that’s been happenings

@tight swift how much?

[tight swift]

do you want to play gauntlet?

[safe stirrup]

Oh no I was just curious of illuviums prize pool for a tournament compared to Pokémon

[lilac grail]

100ILV for the final gauntlet and is around 500$ in fuel every qualifier. (6x)

Dunno if its official but its what i heard

[supple epoch]

@safe stirrup can i still play ?

[left tartan]

is there a way to challenge a 1v1 with friends?

i dont play arena much right now

[lilac grail]

In ascendant mode yeah. There is custom

U get a code to give to him

[left tartan]

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[turbid osprey]

Like mindya said, total is about 7.5k$ for the month long series but i wouldnt compare it to anything yet because its an unnoficial community event. Once the games are in a proper state we will definitely have much bigger rewards

[eternal kestrel]

WORST thing about team builder. scrolling through your illuvials, you pick one, you get forced to a new screen that lets you pick which one, even though it doesnt tell you which are holo nor show you their RNG diagram, then when you pick it and press BACK, your scrolling position is completely lost and you gotta start looking for where you were again. makes the team builder dreadful to be frank

even using the filter is dumb because if you pick fire affinity, it wont show you the magma, inferno, etc stage threes. so you have to do a different filtering. theres just so much friction to breezing through making a 50 card team.

[pale pawn]

.

[stoic parrot]

should be a nice clean album with all details and a simple click to add to team

[zenith bough]

yeah. Would be cleaner if we could pick an Illuvial to be standard for every deck. Would also help when you buy a better stat Illuvial, so you do not have to go through every deck and change that Illuvial

[west plume]

if anyone is up for some Gauntlet https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1267464798799663187

[silver merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-dude-no-oh-bugs-bunny-bugs-gif-16539813204482509307

[west plume]

Afraid to lose... again

[silver merlin]

I still got higher placement even though you had the meteor👀

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

iam just messing ,9 out 10 you beat me

[silver merlin]

Nah I'm shit as well but I'm on vacation rn so can't play

[west plume]

Lol,love how you added the "aswell"

enjoy your vacation,always fun to play the Hype guys

[turbid osprey]

We are 7 in hyperion server and starting a new game in 5-10 if you wanna join

[tulip tiger]

Ready check in gauntlet

[hearty yew]

in normal ranked PVP matches... does the level improve the illuviums?

[distant lintel]

if you mean arena ascendant , then no.at least its not supposed to .

[bleak escarp]

My arena queue is slow today

[jade pecan]

lv and stats only matter in leviathan

[stoic parrot]

so survival is showing 7k players a day...no bad

[onyx remnant]

Me too. I'm currently on a game and it is stuck

[uneven ruin]

is your game stuck or lag at ranked arena ?

[supple epoch]

@uneven ruin i had a crash had log back in

[pale cradle]

Anyone else's ascendant queue just not work?

[keen moth]

Are the checkpoints really needed for survival? Would it break the game to just let us redo the last wave we were on? Not to mention the bugs, but replaying the same several waves I already beat is not fun. What is the point?

[severe portal]

#🛒〕illuvials-dex

[bronze spire]

ive suggested this too but its so you can actually change your build / econ. I think orginally there was no check points. A lot of players dont want same wave resets for this reason too

[bronze spire]

is it greyed out? if so refresh team builder on the site and in game

[jaunty latch]

"Play 21 Arena Survival Training Games", really? who even makes these tasks, lol. Like there is zero progress doing it except for the weekly

[silver merlin]

It's a skill issue, if you want to redo your last wave you can play training mode

[cyan olive]

pkmn unite pricepools
pkmn tcg pricepools

[jaunty latch]

do you get xp when you use your own illuvials?

[keen moth]

What?

[keen moth]

That seems like a poor reason, given you don't always move back multiple waves. If you just passed a checkpoint and lose, and want to move multiple waves back to make more changes to your team you are screwed.

Just let us choose which wave we go to then, so if we want to back up further we can.

IMO the checkpoints should be "permanent". Even if it's every 10 instead of 5? Losing for good on wave 40 and then having to play 39 more waves over again to get back there really, really sucks. It would be more palatable starting back at level 30.

[bronze spire]

do you mean unlimited resets so you dont go back to 1 after losing at 40?

id prefer selecting the wave you reset to for sure, especially since its not even a super competitive game mode, may as well make it what feels best for players

so totally agree. I think its not been their focus at all for ages since it was kind of a temporary game mode

maybe they will change it when/if the dynamic survival mode comes out

[keen moth]

It can still be 3 retries per run, where you can select any wave you've beaten to return to.

But even after your run is over, you can then choose to restart at 11, 21, 31, etc if you've gotten there that day.

With there being a 24 hour timer it's just a real pain to have to waste so much time replaying waves you've already solved.

[bronze spire]

oh so 3 restarts at any wave but you also unlock checkpoints every 10 waves you can start at for that day

[keen moth]

Right

[bronze spire]

i really like that

[keen moth]

With there being so many bugs that can kill a run it would also remove some of the frustration there. Getting a bug 45 minutes into a run that ruins the whole thing and makes you go back to 1 is such an awful experience.

[bronze spire]

yea agreed. Hopefully thats fixed soon

[blissful kite]

Experienced this. Sometimes the game starts even at more than 30secs left to deploy and sometimes it just stops completely

[worldly token]

@subtle briar did you have trouble aswell? reconnecting did it for me

sorry dude

[bronze spire]

yea dont use more than 2 ascend tokens in 1 round. And if you sell something dont use augments and try not to upgrade much that round gets a little buggy

[blissful kite]

Thanks for this!

Hope the bug gets fixed soon

[bronze spire]

no worries 🙂 yea hopefully soon

[halcyon nova]

still building my army Ima never gonna loose 😉

[storm wyvern]

maintenance?

[silk sedge]

where can i post pic.

i got access denied

[distant lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/kenny-south-park-acess-denied-denied-sky-gif-14035528

[west plume]

There is an updatef rolling out.

#📣〕announcements message

[silk sedge]

got it thanks

[vital vault]

what is leviathan mode

[hearty yew]

stats / level are counting

[verbal cradle]

gg saracencis that was a hard one

[hearty yew]

GAUNTLET
SEARCH NOW

(still open space)

okay to late for you 😄

[dusty vessel]

hey guys, does ranked arena take in stats?

or its just leviathan?

oh wait i just scrolled up found my answer, hope everyones enjoying teh game

[dusty vessel]

hey guys, hope you all going well, hey in ranked how do you get the rank 100 milestone? do you need a ceratin rating?

certain***

[worldly jolt]

I assume you have to be in the top 100 players on a leaderboard for ascendant arena

[dusty vessel]

hey jesse, where can i access the leaderboards?

[worldly jolt]

I’ve never seen any yet. I’ll look

[worldly jolt]

Seems it’s just the old ones still. https://arena.illuvium.io/leaderboard?activeTab=ascendant

[dusty vessel]

thanks mate, apreciate it

[clever turtle]

around 1500points should be enough to be top 100

[ebon pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/travolta-where-what-gif-16176290

[tame oriole]

They should introduce a burn mechanism for illuvials with fuel, which would have the advantage for landowners that much more fuel is needed and for the players the advantage that pointless illuvials could be crafted to a better one and thus fewer but higher quality illuvials would be thrown on the market, which would also make the market clearer. Because the market is really flooded with shit. Very confusingWhat is the benefit if the market is permanently infected?
Besides, illuvium zero is also a game. The people who play this game have obviously pulled the complete ass cardOr change the 19-to-1 ratio to 16-to-4 of fuel sold. Instead of fucking the early investors
maximally unattractive t4 land prices dropped from 16k to 6k.

[fallen flare]

why isn't water good against granite earth?

[west plume]

It is

Like really good

[fallen flare]

my rytor isnt getting omega power

rypter on the far left

only one omega star in the fight i've seen 3 before for water granite

[west plume]

That's does not seem right to me, should have full hyper generation

[fallen flare]

exactly right

i already find this system confusing enough and then it doesn't seem to be consistent XD

[west plume]

Clear as day

Will test when I get home

[worldly token]

soooo what counters the dust fire rogue deck everybody is currently running?

[hot pond]

The nature and air interaction is always messing my head up because of pokemon where flying beats grass

[distant lintel]

Dust rogue enchanter is the best counter.

[worldly token]

so the same team almost? xD

[distant lintel]

Actually in case ofg this deck its not that overpowered. there is plenty of things that work fine against it.But best thing would be probably some variation.Thing about this deck is that it is cheap to get - this is why so many people are using it.More exoensive, well made decks crush it.Titanor is very hard for it

[worldly token]

I can see higher tier illuvials beat it for sure. But thats sooo expensive sadly 😄

[distant lintel]

Now that i think about it.colossus with titanor and that nature/nature thing is very hard for that deck.Whatever the carry would be in that deck.

Verdant - thats ne nature/nature thing which name eluded me

[worldly token]

cheapest titanor currently is almost 100 bucks, plus you need golainth aswell.
I am going verdant currently and I can tell you it is not working

[distant lintel]

verdant alone, probably not, defense doesnt work well until lit reaches a treshold at which nothing is getting killed ;P

[worldly token]

I do run cardulox gnarl so colossus with another bulwark - even tried 5 bulwark in total

no chance

and I do get to 3 verdant with the tier 4 weapon

[distant lintel]

aaa, i think i just played against you last game

The deck i played against you works against thart clasic rogue thing

I was starting with predators

[worldly token]

problem being I go for berserker, because the weapon is verdant berserker. But the dust blinds are way too long

[distant lintel]

Yea, dust is to ogood to not go for it right now.

[worldly token]

predators are soo strong even against the tanks. And I dont have titanor to get granite to block the first hits

its really tough. Dust is super strong + the fox makes good positioning impossible.
they usually just put it up front and even if I put all 3 berserkers to it. I wont kill it because of the blinds.

[distant lintel]

itsa not even dust that is really the biggest problem, its combination of dust and enchanters/

enchanters make everythign significantly more tanky

[worldly token]

so i will try to just go dust enchanters and work in those verdants 😄 lets see

[distant lintel]

i suggest

rather than going for verdant with enchanters rather focus on berserke r part

damage over defense

[worldly token]

well that was the thing I tried first, but I am having a very hard time with it

oh you mean dust and then not enchanters but berserkers first`? I see

[distant lintel]

what i mean don;t get fixated on verdant, use it only if it really fits in

enchanters shield and blind from dust can serve as good enough defense

even shield alont

without dust, becouse if you work in both enchanters and dust, you dont realy have that much room to fit in berserkers

[worldly token]

oh ok. Thanks!
As my main weapon is verdant I will probably at least play twine

[distant lintel]

yea i know , that verdant/berserker weapon seem to be great in theori, but right now , it seems to jsut not fiit into meta al lthat great.

i tried to use it before mainnet

[worldly token]

yeah in theory super strong xD

[distant lintel]

did you try using aegis unots?

[distant lintel]

Blotto/archelon/chuckondi with your weapon would give you Aegis, verdant,wildfire if you combine this with your weapon.you could try starting off with predators like i did and then work up to this combo with berserkers.

Aegis giving massive resist bonus to ranger would probably make it unkillable with verdant/berserker weapon.

[worldly token]

yeah, but it feels like you cannot go nature at all in those fights. Every time they just add ramhpy and ace later and just wreck me with those.

If I have a small chance of turning the game it is always pretty late game and then there is a rhampyre coming up

[distant lintel]

you'd have at least 2 earth to block their hyper.monkier and grilla.

[worldly token]

sounds good, but doesnt seem to work 😄

to be fair, rhamphyre is way better than my whole team though

[distant lintel]

well, yea many t5 units are too strong, that is a different story.

If you want a gaunge on balance all you need to to is watch at how gauntlet is played.nobody cares about lower tier units, it is all race to get to t4-t5 as fast as possible without loosing too much health.synergies and lower tier units are not all that important even if you get s3..

t0 and t1 ( eept for dust perhaps) is discarded immediatelly after higher tier is avaible - regardless of other synergies.Its treated as trash really,

[storm wyvern]

bro i cant find a match again i thought they fixed that bug with the latest patch?

[zenith bough]

is your 'cancel' button grey when queuing? If it is, you can't match against any players. You have to go back and try again.

Although I guess noone is playing. I haven't found a game for 5 minutes

[storm wyvern]

Im trying to play casual and cant even fight the bot and yes its greyed out for an hour now

[worldly token]

that is sad. I havent played gauntlet in a while, but it seemed bad early already, especially because of berserker and dust. If you cant get those units you are going to lose early game. and therefor have less money to get to the t5

[turbid osprey]

I disagree with this, gauntlet meta is fully of T1/T3 units but gauntlet is currently not a good way to gaunge meta because we are limited by the trait distribution there

The best team in gauntlet isnt the best team in ascendant at all

[summer ocean]

Gauntlet AI is too easy 😭 and sad to play 7 AI's all the time

[hearty yew]

we will play Gauntlet this evening, join us if you want 🙂

[turbid osprey]

People arent playing gauntlet because the airdrop incentivize other modes and mainly OW

This should change for season2 but until then the only way to get games is to go in Hyperion Academy server. We have multiple games running everyday to practice, you can also assign yourself the gauntlet role via one of the latest announcement and get pinged when we start lobbies or miss couple people

I cant post links but you can join here: #1169218091943731281 message

[summer ocean]

Thanks I'll check it out

[storm wyvern]

jesus cant find match again

[supple epoch]

@storm wyvern do a reboot try reinstalling

[storm wyvern]

how to do that?

also not only me having this issue, all my friends does

[storm wyvern]

oh i see, already done that and didnt work

game cause it after how many matches with the bot

[supple epoch]

make sure you clear your cache

[storm wyvern]

cache of illuvioum?

[supple epoch]

@storm wyvern Some games may have their save files stored in a different folder. These are some common locations where game saves might be found: %USERPROFILE%\Documents\My Games. %USERPROFILE%\AppData\LocalLow.?

[storm wyvern]

ill try it out thanks

[worldly token]

game did not start - after reconnecting I see this:
maaaaaan

[ebon pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/travolta-where-what-gif-16176290

[worldly token]

I had some errors and now wanted to get back into arena. But my cancel button is greyed out. What can I do to be able to play again? It is the same team I played with before, so there is nothing I dont own.
I already "changed" the team by putting something out, saving and putting it back in again, but the cancel button stays grey

[zenith bough]

I usually have to wait a few hours, when this occurs.

time to touch some grass

[worldly token]

daaaaamn
I dont want grass - I want arena 😄

[zenith bough]

yeah. It is super sad they cannot fix it. 😦 Hopefully it will be less and less over time, as they start ironing out bugs

[bronze spire]

i think you can surrender or wait for them too

or yea wait it out haha

[worldly token]

nah, I cannot find any games even. like when searching for a game the cancel button is grey and i will never find one

[bronze spire]

oh, did you refresh team builder on site and in game? if that doesnt work than create bug report with greyed out cancel button in title

they fixed mine pretty quick the other day

[worldly token]

yeah I refreshed the team, will create a ticket though, thanks!

[vocal robin]

Where do we report bugs? I found a storage calculation bug

[bronze spire]

"b"

[dark scaffold]

you got a ghost session after this error yes it should be auto-closed after an hour

[vocal robin]

thank you

[worldly token]

that's good to know! thanks

[zenith bough]

can we have it auto close after 5 minutes? 😎

[dark scaffold]

do you want to be auto-closed after a 5 min of starting a game 🧐

not a good experience i think xD

[worldly token]

@uneven grove please, I dont want to face Rhamphyre anymore. Why are you not playing higher rated players with better decks 😄 damn

[fallen flare]

is wave 24 in survival even possible today?

[sour jay]

dont think so

[uneven grove]

@worldly token Haha i'm aiming to the top anyways, hopefully i'll let you in peace 😄

[tired depot]

why is it such a weird order, why not just keep it like TFT?

[zenith bough]

It is due to Lynx

Anyone know which illuvial wins if a blind hits a clumsy one?

[tired depot]

So without lynx it would be a pyramid as expected?

[zenith bough]

yes

[pseudo sleet]

is adding funds in illuvidex not working as of the moment?

[stiff helm]

#📣〕announcements message

[gaunt stag]

I'm new to arena, is there pvp yet? I want to use my own illuvials

[abstract finch]

@distant lintel gg

[distant lintel]

arena ascendand is pvp

[raven obsidian]

anyone wana play some Gauntlet?

[ebon flume]

Anyone up for some gauntlet?

[gaunt stag]

Can I use my own illuvials?

[distant lintel]

you have to use your own illuvial, plus some of the free roatation.in ascendant bonus to stats and levels of those illuvials don;t matter.

[gaunt stag]

So everyone has the same stats?

[distant lintel]

yes, there is leviathan where stats matter, but noone is playing there.

[gaunt stag]

I checked leviathan and it gave me prebuilt teams that I don't think we're mine

I was confused

[distant lintel]

those pre build teams are also avaible in ascendant, but if you want anything beyond free rotation and those pre-build teams you need to own it.

[gaunt stag]

One message I got was I can't use stage 3s unless the other stages are on my team?

I didn't understand that

Is there a video tutorial so I don't bother you with dumb questions

[winter breach]

the free deck is ridiculessly strong lmao

people have perfected it and no dust/enchanter can even beat em, no rogue/slayer/preditor no verdant

[gaunt stag]

What's the point of catching your own illuvials then?

[winter breach]

im using my own team, and im loving it.

what's bothering me is how good are people at hiding behind their free titanor and Gnarl

i cant go past the 1k pts, im always back down to 900

looks like at this rank its infested with same-tactic players idk how its higher up

[gaunt stag]

I was kinda hopping we could just face off illuvials vs your own illuvials

[winter breach]

wdym?

[gaunt stag]

Been trying to spend time getting a strong steam

[gaunt stag]

Kinda takes away from the experience if people can use free illuvials

[winter breach]

its annoying, especially when to use my own titanor on team i need 3 more gallands to fuse to mine + 1 to have for ascending

[gaunt stag]

Yeah I'm still trying to understand this part

But definitely reduces my want to try and build a good team

[winter breach]

im playing 2 predator 2 slayer, 2 dust 2 enchanter and sometimes 2 revenant and i get rekt by the bloody f2p deck

[distant lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-gif-25340727

[stiff helm]

you 100% want a strong team 😉

[gaunt stag]

Lol I'm demotivated if there's strong free decks

[winter breach]

sure gg

lol

all that for f2p

lets try magma now

with the very not expensive sear that i had to sell 2 kidneys to fuse

[tawdry cypress]

Any thoughts on a “league” system in comp, akin to Pokémon go having great, ultra, master, each with differing parameters one of which being no limit. So say a stage 1 only league, league that allows up to stage 2, one no limit league, thinking of ways to get more play without necessarily adding anything

[distant lintel]

we've been asking for simple leaderboards for months.they keep saying " soon" , " working on it" yet on release they didn't even bother clearing ascendant leaderboars that were used before testnet. Despite promises does not seem that competetive aspects of pvp is all that high on their lists.

[tawdry cypress]

I’d love to see more thought put into even a simple comp scene, and significant rewards surrounding it, the loop of shoot and loot then forge can get old fast and has, not to mention folks are inherently competitive

I wanna be first in a competition I’ve never even heard of the moment I hear of it

[hearty yew]

Hey guys, we are 4 players who will start playing gauntlet in about 15min.... you are welcome to join and replace the bots 😛

[distant lintel]

Im practically ONLy interested in arena ascendant, and perhaps gauntlet if they get people to play it.But it has to have leaderboards and ranks.

They really messed up arena by making synergiess unimportant, and now they jsut don;t work on balancing the game at all.

[raven obsidian]

anyone else wana play gauntlet? need 2 more for lobby in the voice channel

[hearty yew]

our game will start in 2 min^^

[distant lintel]

do you stil lneed player?

[hearty yew]

yes

fast

we are searching right now

[hearty yew]

just go gauntlet and serach 🙂

[tawdry cypress]

It’s hard to keep it simple for the idiot and also in depth enough for exciting pairings beyond meta

I personally would’ve liked to see wildfire for example come from playing both grass and fire as opposed to a wildfire unit

[supple epoch]

@distant lintel nature Infinity was crazy it was like a god mode it was way off depending on your team ..

[west plume]

Running against the enchanter dust build?

[supple epoch]

@west plume didnt see that combo myself ..

[hearty yew]

@distant lintel in for another round?

[distant lintel]

im stil lplaying, but probably not

oh, nevermind, not playing anymore ;P

but, im taking a break

[severe marten]

I really hope there will be improvement in illuvium it's so stupidly boring in all the games overworld, arena and zero and the fact that you can't use your own illuvials in arena takes away the fun exploring the abilities of your own illuvials. I feel like I wasted my entire life savings in this project. Please give me sense of hope before I completely lose my mind on this.

[silver merlin]

You can use your own illuvials in arena what do you mean?

[severe marten]

I have been playing arena and it gives me random illuvials that are not even mine not sure why they are doing that.

[silver merlin]

You May have played survival, that uses a given deck yeah

Ascendant and leviathan uses your own illuvial

[severe marten]

I will try those games again. I hate using other illuvials that are not mine I don't see any fun playing those games

[broken jolt]

I cant even find a ranked ascendent match

searched 5 min

not even the AI will play me

my game must be broken

[inner orbit]

If the button is greyed out theres some issue, try to go back and then click again, once the button is not disabled it should be actually looking for opponent

[worn tree]

@eager portal

[stoic parrot]

and the other games are more challenging also...you must be why 7k are playing survival every day..was wondering why 😉

[broken jolt]

I had to reinstall the game

do you get interest for holding money in ascendent?

[jade pecan]

I bet you dont know Team Builder?

If you want to use your caught illuvials, you have to use the Team Buider feature and build your own team to play in Ascendant and Leviathan.

Besides, you cant use your team in Survival and Gauntlet mode.

[vocal robin]

Do your illuvials lvl when using them in Arena and then you can fuse them in OW?

[glass lichen]

Is warp wave broken?

or is the graphic just not going off ?

Appears to just be a graphic bug

[willow kindle]

level 17 today is insane... 7 nature and 8 empath... i didn't kill a single unit lol

[lyric river]

Can you show the matchup vs your team I may be able to help

[willow kindle]

I already exited out, whoops. I need to watch more youtube videos with specific strategy tips, i always run out of steam near level 20

[lyric river]

Something I always did when pushing #1 on the leaderboards was… taking screenshots of my team on each battle so I knew what I did and what didn’t work so I could replicate it on upcoming battles and then changing it so I can beat the wave

I have my own discord and posted each picture in a channel named Ilv waves. Then I looked at it learning from my mistakes and improving it when I reached the unbeatable wave

[elder rover]

How to join the guantlet qualifiers?

[fallen flare]

with the 5000 wins milestone could you just bot that against ai in arena?

like vs AI for the 5k wins?

can someone queue up arena for my quest

i need 1 win, been waiting in queue for 12 minutes lol

[severe marten]

How long is the queue in Leviathan and ascendant?

It looks like no one is playing that

[severe marten]

They are banning players using bot now

[fallen flare]

how can they prove it tho in arena?

i hope they do tbh

more points for us

im 22 minutes in queue

cant find 1 acendant ranked game

354mmr

their ranked system seems way too strict for queue times rn

[fallen flare]

is hyper broken?

my fire is constantly getting only +! into grass etc

[distant lintel]

water and earth enemy units are reducing hyper of your fire

[silver merlin]

Is the cancel button greyed out? If so go back to main menu

[clear totem]

they blocked players who using vpn again .so half of players cant login and play

thats why you are in que for 22min

[manic musk]

what is the difference between ascendant and leviathan?

[zenith bough]

leviathan uses the Illuvials stat and level. Ascendant is standardised, so everyone has the same power

[whole galleon]

is leviathan released?

[zenith bough]

for arena, yes

not for gauntlet

[whole galleon]

is the queue ok i only play ascendant

[zenith bough]

no. it is impossible to get a game. 😦

let me know if you want to play though - love that game mode

[whole galleon]

after my round we can do a 1vs1 🙂

[zenith bough]

nice! I am also in a game. after that, I am ready

[whole galleon]

i hope they nerf rogues with the jump...

[zenith bough]

I am ready

[distant lintel]

AHA from now on i shall be nammed NEGATIVITY - the bane of everyone who uses Titanor !

[whole galleon]

me to start in

3
2

1

[zenith bough]

👍

are you in a game?

there it wa

s

was*

[whole galleon]

yeah

gg u good nice guys 🙂

[zenith bough]

gg

invoker looks promising in leviathan

[whole galleon]

yeah, it was my 3.0 deck the first 2 ones was in ascendant to slow vs the rouges

1 more round to test the other 2 decks of me?

[zenith bough]

I am queuing

😄

I have some other decks I wanna play too. 🙂

[whole galleon]

nice 😄 🙂

my cancel is grey

i got a bug

[zenith bough]

go back

[whole galleon]

moment

[zenith bough]

and try again

(top left)

[whole galleon]

now

[zenith bough]

aight

[whole galleon]

the weapons got no stats?

[tight swift]

Does anyone want to play gauntlet?

[whole galleon]

gg

got 1 more deck

[zenith bough]

they do, just bugging out

gg

I que again

a new team

[whole galleon]

ur axodon are crazy 😄

[zenith bough]

yeah, it is a funny unit. 😄

saw we had kind of the same idea

😄

[whole galleon]

i would say it too 😄

[zenith bough]

LOL

what a trap

[whole galleon]

😂

GG man ur illuvials are crazy man

[zenith bough]

GG.

That bird is WILD in Leviathan

[whole galleon]

ur pho and scara stage 2 with this stats

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-boom-iron-man-gif-14282225

[zenith bough]

🤣

have to go

thanks for the games.

[whole galleon]

thanks too

[glass lichen]

Arena is getting a TON of play i never have to wait more than 2 minutes for a game

[manic musk]

Thank you.
Wich one will be the main competitive game?

[spice monolith]

Leviathan

[fallen flare]

maybe their were bots farming games they blocked

[clear totem]

no . a lot players cant play normal cuase of sanctions

i changed my vpn to play again

[hollow summit]

whats the difference between ranked and leviathan?

[inner lotus]

salam.mitooni mapeto share koni?

[frank patio]

I always thought it was weird how ascendant ask you to select a specific illuvial as if it's stats matter....shouldn't it just be a check to see if you own one? Kind of like how when you don't own one it just says not owned underneath the illuvial?

[fallen flare]

i think the VPN issues are temporary its nothing to worry about long term, they've just turned it off while they deal with bots

[prisma yarrow]

how people can get to lvl 40 in survival arena without bugs, you got to be insaly lucky, played 3 games loose to bugs and I cant take it anymore.... get to lvl 25 and I know I can improve my set up but time time time time ..... and every chance you take you loose and ascension token what is the point?

[ashen peak]

Hey! In arena when "Take down" is triggered?

[fallen flare]

when your illuvial holding the augment kills an illuvial with the final damage required for death

[odd wren]

Takedown refers to kill or assist. I'm not sure the delay for an assist to count, probably something like 3s

[fallen flare]

i didnt know assists count

[ashen peak]

Is gain 30 pure attack damage good augment for main damage dealer?

[severe marten]

Is there arena game that does not require stage 1 and stage illuvials? I only want to play my own illuvials and they are all stage 3

[odd wren]

Not since arena got reworked a while ago

[silver merlin]

Not possible atm

[vernal forum]

We're playing gauntlet atm... new game in next few minutes... couple spots left - lmk if wanna play pls

[tight swift]

I would like to play 🙂

[broken jolt]

do you get interest in arena for mastery points?

[severe marten]

Can you use your own stongest illuvial or it's just another borrowed illuvial from the game?

[vernal forum]

In gauntlet - right now - you don't need to own any illuvials and the stats are normalized.

[severe marten]

Ya that's the downside about this arena game I don't even know why am I even buying, catching or fusing illuvials if u can just use ingame illuvials for free this is lame and very discouraging for collectors 😒

[silver merlin]

Untill they introduce leviathan gauntlet

[cloud mason]

What’s the fastest way to upgrade my illuvials

[west plume]

Bring them into Overworld fights and win

[cloud mason]

What’s the highest level they go too? I have a level 42 turtle

I thought 40 was the highest

[dreamy dagger]

I believe lvl 60 is max level as of now

[jade pecan]

you can use your own illuvials in Ascendant and Leviathan

while Gauntlet and Survival are other modes that dont require you to own any illuvial.

I dont know why you still complain about not using illuvials in Gauntlet mode, it doesn’t make any sense

[supple epoch]

@dreamy dagger Sounds like a challenge

[inner orbit]

Lvl 60 is not exactly max level, but yeah at that point it gets so hard to lvl up, Lvl 61 is basically gathering all the exp that was needed for lvl 60

[hallow notch]

I have been getting ascendent ranked games like all the time. Usually less than 3-5 min wait.

[hallow notch]

Ascendent and leviathan uses the same team builder teams is why

[hallow notch]

Not the case for now. But I am advocating they increase max level but only woth extreme xp requirements

[hallow notch]

Stage 3 runs, fight every fight, bring lots of T0 ringnuts to heal illuvials

[tulip tiger]

Starting a game of guantlet if anyone wants to join

[fallen vortex]

Are the L1 emotes usable yet?

How does it all work

[hybrid ravine]

I've waited over 5 min, up to 10 min on several occasions for arena. I no longer try to queue up.

[mystic jasper]

How do you evolve your stage 1 illuvials in gauntlet? It happened to me twice but I couldnt recreate the effect.

[worldly jolt]

You need three of them.

Then it’s automatic

[mystic jasper]

oh, ok ty

... * hops back into gauntlet :3

[stone lava]

Hello, what is the level used for in the rains

[clever turtle]

Ping me or add me friend when you want to tag an ascendant game 🙂

[opaque void]

I want to buy a few characters to play over world...what do you suggest to get your best bang for buck ?

[opaque void]

I want to buy a team on the market ...what's the best bang for buck ? Like what team would you suggest?

Thanks

[distant lintel]

For overworld im not sure.

For arena ascendant most cost effective would be enchanter/dust/rogue.And my enchanter/rota 3 illuvial team in overworld handles s2 maps with ease, so perhaps its decent for overworld too.

[opaque void]

Awesome thanksc

[clever turtle]

Slayer/dust/enchanter is fine for the T3 maps

[opaque void]

Rota 3 ilvual team ?

[opaque void]

Thanks so anybin that catergoryv

[opaque void]

Are mostvof your runs in T3 ?

[clever turtle]

Gyro, Ghazotep and Fury boomerang as weapons. You can add a kukkarph for safety
Yeah at the moment I'm almost only doing T3 to xp my main team to lvl 60 and find some T5

For big groups you can add an Umbre

[opaque void]

Can you give me a list of your team so I can go from there!

[opaque void]

Nice super helpful....thanks

[opaque void]

So what's happens when you get to level 60

[clever turtle]

Gyro, Ghazotep, Kukkaraph, Umbre + 4 illuvial for XP
As weapon I used the Arc boomerang but the Fury is good enough and a Calibrated Cyberbore (T4S1) as suit

[opaque void]

Thanks so much

[clever turtle]

I don't know, I'm barely at lvl 52 and my maxxed Illuvial but I want lvl 60 to be ready for Leviathan Arena (even though I'm not even sure I would be useful)

You're welcome

[hallow notch]

For budget, rouges are effective since a lot of them are cheap. But lots of builds out there with Psions, water, empath, etc. Many counter others, but many highly effective illuvails T1-T4. T5 will cost more, so I'd build a foundation with T1-T4. Some of my favorite are behemoth, verdant, dust, rouge, slayer, inferno, phantom--can beat many decks, but also lose to some.

[opaque void]

When you sayvplus 4 ...do you mean any 4 and is your team like all nature or all air ect?

[clever turtle]

Any 4. Just low level illuvial to farm xp

[opaque void]

Excellent thanks

[opaque void]

But do they need to be all same infinity

[clever turtle]

Not really, dust/slayer is all you need (Ghazotep+Gyro), (Gyro + boomerang) and maybe enchanter (Ghazotep+ kukkaraph)

You focus the main DPS with your slayers and Ghazotep will tank almost everything with the blind from dust

[fallen vortex]

Yeah it being Empath helps too

Damn insane

[clever turtle]

Yep true

[opaque void]

What does DPS mean

Sorry which one being an empath

[clever turtle]

Damage Per Second, usually Psion units or fighters
Verminio (T3S1) is empath and air and fit well in the team, also later in arena

[opaque void]

So there is no need to worry about making sure they are all nature or all air ect?

[clever turtle]

For Overworld, not really, it is more important for Arena

[opaque void]

I won't be good enough for arena haha

[opaque void]

Do you need to buy more than one to ascend it or to fuse them?

Thanks

[clever turtle]

Not sure to understand, for Overworld you only need the S3. For Arena you need S1,S2 and S3 to upgrade through the game. For OW, you can buy directly the S3 or buy the S1 or S2 to fuse into the S3

[fallen vortex]

3 air helps ghazotep for sure. Probably more than 3 empath unless U r confident Ur ghazotep can go hyper

[winter breach]

What is hyper 🤔

[clever turtle]

Bonus stats when fighting with element advantage. It is the yellow border around the HP of your Illuvial. Ghazotep Hyper stats are HP regen etc

[stoic parrot]

perhaps buy some higher tiers and some higher stages..they are not that much more expensive

[viscid otter]

What are some good S1 and S2 to get for arena?

[distant lintel]

depends on your budget really

[viscid otter]

Say high budget 🙂

[bronze spire]

Revo and winq probs the best pair of S2s

(Dust)

My second most recent video breaks down that team

[vernal forum]

playing gauntlet in Illuvium voice... come join for next game in about 30 min

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1267464798799663187

[dark vine]

wen return of invoker water meta?

[vernal forum]

mmmm perfection

[keen haven]

Everytime i play arena time stops then i cant put illuvials or start the game.. my internet is ok though, any other problems? Is it a bug?

[stone lava]

¿what is the level used for in the illuvials?

[granite osprey]

I have a quetion.
Virtuous Floralynx creates a Medium Area around them for 5 seconds. Allies within Heal for (6%*OP) of their Missing Health per second and gain 8% Healing Efficiency.

gain8% Healing Efficiency.
Ally get 8% so .8%+6%*OP = 14%Missing health per secX5?

How is it work 8% effciency?

[worn tree]

Hey Abso,

It does not work like that. So heal efficiency is a % value that increases the amount of healing that unit receives.

So if a unit has 8% heal efficiency, if it gets healed by 100, the actual healing is 108. You can extrapolate this for any value.

[vague orchid]

Hey @noble radish i could send screenshots, really had a question to ask if the message I received on my email about some related giveaway is legit, tho I wasn't scammed 😅

[marsh bloom]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[granite osprey]

so,it mean empath9 40%.
When heal 100HP become heal 140HP By 40% .

[worn tree]

Yes

[granite osprey]

thank you I got it!

[worn tree]

Please do not tag Aaron for this. Address to a moderator first. If they don't know the answer they will redirect you to the corresponding person in the team to assist you.

[worn tree]

Any time my friend.

[vague orchid]

That was the only way I could get a quick response just to know if I can proceed but sorry if that was an offence

[worn tree]

No offence, but trust me that's definitely not a fast way to get an answer. Fastest answer statistically is to ask a mod.

[vague orchid]

Recommend a mod please

[worn tree]

@worldly jolt

[worldly jolt]

Never. Emails with links to claim stuff will be scams. Emails with any call to action with links to a website that is not just the normal illuvium.io website will all be scams.

It’s rare that you’ll find an email that even looks like it was sent from an address on the actual @illuvium.io domain. Usually the scam emails are sent from some random looking email address. Illuvium only uses its own real domain to send stuff. Technically there are some ways to attempt to spoof this. But it’s rarely done. There’s never a need to trust links in emails.

[worldly jolt]

Best place to ask about scams is #🚨❗〕report-scammers

[vague orchid]

Thanks for the response 💚

[granite osprey]

Adorius summons 3 spotlights that Heal the 3 Lowest Health Allies for (27% Missing Health + 275*OP) and increase their Omega Power by 12.

Gnarl　2261HP Titanor 2389HP

but Atippo 837HP
Question when Ador line cast the Omega. 3spotlights include lowest Max HP(No damage) more than Tank damage HP?

@worn tree
last question today studying making deck

[worn tree]

It targets the lowest % health, so flat health doesn't matter. It matters the relative value: current vs max health.

[severe portal]

Can anyone explain to me why these values?

[distant lintel]

These are just listed prices , right? it means nothing.What matters is if someone is paying that.

[west plume]

#📣〕announcements message

[ebon pagoda]

anyone wanna play leviathan gauntlet?

[river pike]

no more daily patterns!

[ebon pagoda]

picking highest level illuvials is not ok, but acceptable for now

[distant lintel]

It is not explained how higher stage illuvials will be used in gauntlet leviathan.It is said higher stages will not be avaible in shop, so how will we get them? after we get higher stage, wil lits stats be calculated from lower stage we get , wll it be chosen randomly from higher stages we own? or perhaps neither? - it is not explained besides the fact that higher stages wil lnot be avaible in shops.

[zenith mortar]

Its always been this way

You only see Stage 1s in the shop

you get 3 stage1s you get a stage 2

[ebon pagoda]

i prefer to remove it from the announcement because it can cause confusion

but overall it's a huge improvement on how the team does announcement

much appreciated

[distant lintel]

Yes, but what happens with bonus stats in leviathan when we go from stages 1 up? it is not explained.Will stats be calculated from 3x stage 1s that we had - as if it was fused? Will higher stage we own be used then? what is going to happen? how will ownership of higher stages be utilized?

[west plume]

if you have all stages, those with high levels will apply when going up in stages.if you dont own them you will get a dummy LVL1 illuvial for that stage

[edgy flower]

@zenith mortar wonder if you could answer me in private messages 🙂

[bronze spire]

5. Higher Stages
   Stage 2 and 3 Units: Higher stage Illuvials (Stages 2 and 3) cannot be bought directly from the shop. The highest-level version you own of an Illuvial will appear first, and subsequent appearances will follow the same priority, with unowned units showing at Level 1

[spare river]

Are weapons, suits and ranger coming in Gauntlet Leviathan?

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/dicaprio-maybe-gif-20413224

[zenith bough]

are stage 2 and 3 also level 1 in leviathan? or will they automatically be lvl 20/40 ?

holy smokes it's an exciting update!

[west plume]

if you own the Stage 2 and 3 it will use your Lvl illuvial,if you dont own it it will be the base line Level

[zenith bough]

I mean, it says that in the announcement.

BUT

can it really be true?

[clever turtle]

With the update, bot will still fill the slot of real players or a game will only be launched when the matchmaking finds 8 players ?

[bronze spire]

i guess because in OW stage 2 base is lvl 20 for example

[west plume]

Yeah I should have said base level

[zenith bough]

So it is Level 1 / 20 / 40?

I am not really sure after reading the announcement

[west plume]

Base Level for each stage is the right way to look at it.

Getting a level 60 Stage3 will take along time

[fallen vortex]

@noble radish Please make the hotkeys the same as TFT. When trying to onboard autobattler veterans that sort of familiarity goes a long way.

Buy EXP should be 'F'
Reroll should be 'D'
Sell a unit should be 'E'

Please and thank you ❤️

Can someone explain this: 'Single Instance Display: Each owned Illuvial, Weapon, or Suit can only be present once in the Shop, Bench, or Board. This ensures that your owned units won't show up multiple times in the shop simultaneously.'

So if I have a Pho, if 3 Pho appear, 2 are standardised and 1 isn't? What if I own 10 Pho?

Oh I see, so if you own 3 Pho all with max stats and level 60. Thats the maximum potential for Pho in leviathan, period

I like this a lot more than I thought I would

I know I am just talking to myself now. But unowned units are level 1 LMAOOO. Thats so savage but I love it. (A stage 3 should be level 40 even if u don't own it. But thats okay)

Does this say weapons have levels? I didn't know that

[west plume]

Really enjoy the Download series, and please make Sam come on them
All🥳

So much alpha from discord I miss in one nice package

[fallen vortex]

He agreed to be a permanent resident

[fallen vortex]

Takes me a while to find the alpha each week. But I know if I was watching video news every week its the one thing I'd want to see

[west plume]

I do appreciate it.

[fallen vortex]

I am glad its helpful

But like damn this gauntlet patch is mental

[west plume]

Yep, will be fun to see how the gauntlet final plays out😬

[noble radish]

Ok.

[west plume]

That was easy

[cyan olive]

noo, I hate the standard tft ones, I was happy to see ILV had same as I use in TFT

[west plume]

@fallen vortex ask for Lore leaks aswell.

[fallen vortex]

People changed them?

I always liked the standard tft ones, but in the end they drew from familiarity from League of Legends

I still think familiarity is incredibly important. But keybinds to be able to change them is equally as important

[bleak escarp]

excited about the upcoming changes

[zenith bough]

I am ready now if you wanna go

[turbid osprey]

It doesnt say in the patch notes but will there be an elo system implemented already?

[wide aspen]

Not yet.
The Leviathan we are getting next week is just a taste of what's to come.
It doesn't have the ranked system implemented yet.

[clever turtle]

Let's go in 2min

[fallen vortex]

Got any sort of ETA for ranked?

Anyone know the spread for level 1 and level 40 illuvials?

Oh @wide aspen how do Weapons and Suits work in the Gauntlet? Do they occupy the same 5 slots in the shop? Got their own slots? Their own 'Augment Phase'?

[distant lintel]

Are we getting ranked system in gauntlet and/or missions to bring people into arena in season 2?

[wide aspen]

Nope, no ETA yet on ranked, just Soon ™️ .
About weapons and suits, we'll keep it a surprise for when they are ready

[fallen vortex]

Hahaha fair enough, looking forward to it

[weak shoal]

10 arena games, 10 air fire dust rogue.
I'm not playing this so at least I offer some fun to the no personality people that play 99% mirror match

hope a nerf to dust is coming

[clever turtle]

Dust enchanter definitely need a nerf. Blind is too long and pure damage too strong

[distant lintel]

Perhaps its more so that other synergies are too weak?

[weak shoal]

same same

but different

[clever turtle]

Not sure, the duration of blind is really long

No auto attack, no energy

and T1S1 rogue are also good units. Less grilla greats a clone that taunts and TiRu creates a corner bait

[turbid osprey]

Actually the dust/rogue isnt a top deck at all its just that at this point its very strong for its easy $ accessability

If we had incentives to play ascendant ranked id even go as far as to say there would be 0 dust rogue in the top 50

[clever turtle]

I have to disagree here

[weak shoal]

build a game around top 50 players only on balancing and you end up like world of warcraft

• if you invest in a team and it's countered by this team and 99% average player play it, it just kills fun

[clever turtle]

Dust/rogue/enchanter allows you to perfectly transition into Inferno/Phantom/Mystic or to play with the T5 enchanter weapon which is also OP

[weak shoal]

yeah the synergies are too obvious as well compared to other comps

[turbid osprey]

If theres incentives and people want to compete they will follow the top decks and also stop playing rogue/dust as they would be open to spend more to have a chance for rewards

The only reason its dust/rogue meta in arena is because it cost a fraction of other good decks and you can still complete all the missions and milestones with it expect top 1 and maybe 10

[hollow orbit]

For example, if there are two Atlases, both of which are level 60, how will their appearance be determined?

[turbid osprey]

Based on xp most probably (hopefuly we remove the hard cap)

[weak shoal]

And now cancel button is grey... time to touch some grass 😄

that and the survival freeze are such turn off.

[zenith bough]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-whatever-lies-gif-3602502

[gritty wren]

https://tenor.com/view/swag-nope-doubt-it-doubtful-gif-11156291

[fallen vortex]

I agree, its alright, but it just wins gauntlet cause stage 3s are hard to get. Gyro/Quinx get kinda stomped by half decent Stage 3s

[stoic parrot]

yeah Sam is a nice addition...you can be too nice, and he's a bit of an ass so they balance well. And TSG has stepped his professionalism...Kieran must have say something in him, but he has grown into it. Keep up the good work...a long with Njafe, my main source of info 🙂

[fallen vortex]

I dont think Kieran said anything to him or anything, but he was always striving to be even better after hearing some feedback from the community. I am glad you are pleased with it

[stoic parrot]

no I mean Kieran saw the raw potential and perhaps helped support it...we all need bosses like that.

[fallen vortex]

Its no secret they work closely together, so maybe.

[stoic parrot]

We all need someone to believe in us, esp. with something new or when things aren't great...why I appreciate you still believing in ILV project even when there are doubters or worse...faith is a powerful force. But it must be followed by action 😉

[fallen vortex]

The team is activating, I think the latest patch drop for Leviathan Gauntlet is testament to the teams dedication

[stoic parrot]

Perhaps a mistake to make 3 very different experiences into one project at the same point, but soon we will have something for every kind of gamer, and growing interconnection

[zenith bough]

Wait. TSG does actual work? 😮

https://tenor.com/view/nobi-pintu-tokocrypto-nanovest-crypto-gif-26605558

[stoic parrot]

now I didn't say that lol Just that he is more professional 😉 Yeah I assume he's connecting with a lot of influencers

He just feels like a better representative for us in the outside world now

And better when he sits in on videos

[sleek agate]

What do people usually call the cards in arena?

[zenith bough]

Illuvials/weapons/armor

[distant lintel]

If it is Titanor i call it TRASH !

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-it-serious-face-mad-cat-annoyed-whatever-gif-12340265

[hallow notch]

I do agree that having incentive rewards tied to Leviathan Guantlet/Arena is crucial to drive the economy. Give people a clear incentive to buy into high stat illuvials. This is more of what we need to boost the Illuvidex economy and keep people going out non-stop to look for great Illuvials.

[prisma yarrow]

totally agree with that

[rancid raptor]

shouldn't it saly lvl 8 and lvl 6 in the last sentence or am i not understanding this?

[mighty yew]

how to join gauntlet masters? Just be online when it starts or need to register before?

[turbid osprey]

Just show up in ilv discord when it starts :)

[spice monolith]

idauntlet?

[turbid osprey]

If anyone wants some practice before the tournament in 2h we are starting a lobby in Hyperion Academy server

[spice monolith]

there is a gauntlet tourny tonight?

dont post link u scammer lol

[marsh bloom]

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[turbid osprey]

cant post the link but look in the event section ahah

[spice monolith]

nice might check it out i need a break from opening booster packs all day in overworld

[honest talon]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-mentzer-mike-mentzer-body-building-body-building-posing-gif-7486775454778124579

[jade pecan]

today deck is pretty strong

[granite echo]

Anyone knows if the gauntlet will be only leviathan or will be 2 modes of gauntlet? One normal and one leviathan? I don't think we have enough players for 2 modes

[twin mirage]

hi any creators out there want to share their youtube for reading up on arena strats? been losing nonstop i just want to win one game

for questing

[ebon pagoda]

been playing gauntlet, still no players

[narrow fable]

aw man

[jade pecan]

If each run is random, can the system handle that?

[zenith mortar]

Tournament today you missed

And ppl leveling for leviathan

[ebon pagoda]

hype tourney?

[zenith mortar]

yeah

[hot pond]

I hope the bug in survival is fixed. More than 2 „bigger“ actions like selling units or doing more than 2 ascensions always led to my turn being basically skipped and I lost the ascensions

[granite echo]

@zenith mortar do you know?
#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[zenith mortar]

next week will have Casual & Leviathan

then Ranked comes later

[granite echo]

Will the rank be leviathan or normal? Or a rank for each of them?
I think we got too many modes

[plain flame]

Is there any place I can see what team is being used by top players? Don't want to spend a grand for a team I think is good only for it to be useless.

[zenith mortar]

Levithan will have ranking and normal will have a rnaked

[granite echo]

Pretty confusing, but ok

[zenith mortar]

Leviathan has nft illuvials
normal has none

simple

[granite echo]

Yes, but we dilute the players
And when a new player comes and sees 6 modes for a game he will be confused

[zenith mortar]

I think we are far past that point

we have like 8

[plain flame]

Are t5s that much stronger than t3/t4 that I should build around them?

My favorite looking illuvials are Scoriox/Titanor/Sear, but I already have a decent Rhamphyre, so wondering if I should build a rogue team.

[granite echo]

There are t1's that are stronger than t5's
It all depends on affinity, class
A team should be built based on synergies and hyper, not tiers

[plain flame]

But for example a S3 Nature Atippo with max health has much less than an S1 Ador... but both are Nature/Empath.

So tiers must play a big role(besides just class/synergy)

[granite echo]

I havent checked that
Are they the same level/ hp% stat?

[jade pecan]

I think we should open more channels for these modes, so when someone wants to play, they just go to that channel and wait.

[zenith mortar]

Problem is discord has a channel limit

haha

and you know how many internal channels there is

[plain flame]

T0 S3 Atippo:
Base health 1170

T5 S3 Adorius:
Base Health 1580.

Same class. I don't see how a lower tier can be considered better than a higher tier for the most part.

[fallen vortex]

Spore helps survivability a lot thankfully for adorius

[slow solstice]

@zenith mortar @noble radish @umbral oracle Hello, I'm posting this here because I don't want to make a ticket. I often have a bug in arena "survival" (in all games) when I lose a round and I come back to the respawn round, the game removes an improvement point or at a certain point when I want to improve 3 characters in the same round my game crashes and I have to restart.

[zenith mortar]

Please press B in game to create a bug reprot

[plain flame]

Do you have a team that used Scoriox? My favorite Illuvial tbh, just don't know what to do to make it competitive.

[granite osprey]

polar bear is strongest animal and lives.So that's the Meta

[fallen vortex]

It's hard because he performs best with sear and phosphorus. Both not cheap

But he also works great alongside mystic. And magma enchanter is fun too

[plain flame]

Sear and phosphorus expensive meaning mp, or $$? Sorry, still not too studied into the arena part of the game.

[fallen vortex]

They are quite rare. So I'm referring to $$ in general

[plain flame]

I can handle that part. Would really like to make a core with Scoriox and Sear.

Coolest looking Illuvials. In pokemon usually your favorite mons suck competitively, but hopefully that won't be the case with Illuvials.

[jade pecan]

This bug has been noticed, I think it will be fixed in next patch

[weak shoal]

daily reminder that dust enchant and friends need a nerf

[west plume]

Build a nature verdant/fire team

[weak shoal]

who's the carry please ?

[ebon pagoda]

its known bug for a long time

u lose an ascencion token if u lose at wave 10

[distant lintel]

I think we need to start reporting bug in system of repairing well known bugs that persist for a long time. Somehow they are not repaired.

[distant lintel]

Its getting completely crushed by rogues.

Perhaps if it had titanor, as titanor with colossus is tough for rogues.

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-not-cheap-robin-james-this-is-expensive-this-costs-a-lot-gif-24817589

[weak shoal]

thank you

i'm already playing verdant

and nothing really counter rogue dust enchant into ramphyre, it just barely wins sometimes. Huge difference

[west plume]

I know, Iam
On the receiving end

[weak shoal]

🙈

[ebon pagoda]

asendant pls

[fallen vortex]

Illuvials are fascinating. You often need a combination of all ranges of strengths. Gyro is a good example of an elite tier 1. And grilla too.

Things like seeforus are needed to enable invoker too

[broken hull]

anyone got tips on how to get pass through wave 22?

survival

insane wave fk

[granite osprey]

exit and sleep

[sharp galleon]

can consumables (regen) be used in Arena?

[west plume]

If your cancel button is greyed out you will wait for ever.
I usually wait 2 min max

[west plume]

Nope

[sharp galleon]

thx

Augments are available in arena though right?

[west plume]

Yep

[ebon pagoda]

reloggin fixed it

thank you

[gritty wren]

can go back also

somebody join

[keen haven]

Cant play Ascendant

Its always at looking for opponent, something wrong?

[zenith bough]

in leviathan?

[gritty wren]

no this was regular ranked

now i play with bots gauntlet

[zenith bough]

will be fun when you can get a game without bots. 😅

[ashen peak]

Is it just me getting server errors in survival?

[hallow notch]

This idea would likely fix queue times for Illuvium PvP games, including Gauntlet. Basically, let us join the queue to play pvp match while grinding in the overworld. https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1276606619115065424

[ebon pagoda]

[hallow notch]

Okay, who knows the difference between "resistances" and "grit and resolve"?

[warm rivet]

does anyone get any games at all in leviathan?

[hallow notch]

I have before. But mainly when I ask others to play

[odd wren]

Grit reduces a flat amount. If you have 20 grit and someone damages you for 100, you will lose 80.

100 resistance means 50% dmg reduction, 200 66%

It's like armor/(armor+100)

Grit is not a percentage

[cinder sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974132778666971136/1180423145195319356/table_tier_stage__1_.png?ex=66cb91f9&is=66ca4079&hm=f301ff9059f1ccf0bd166d0d48285cea696fbb2efb27bc718af78fccdfd6e03b&

[hallow notch]

Got it. I think. Like damage blocking a base amount of damage

[odd wren]

20 grit and 100 armor
If I get hit for 120 dmg, i will take 50 = (120-20) * 0.5

[hallow notch]

Gotcha.

[odd wren]

And resolve is the same but for energy damage

[zenith mortar]

Gautlet

now

[frail mural]

So. Who got the verdant counter? 😮‍💨

[jade pecan]

get the Sear and Scoriox

[frail mural]

Fk.

[hoary mason]

how many players are there ina arena?

[eternal pelican]

Is there a site we can learn what is grit and resolve?

[inner orbit]

Grit
Reduces each instance of Physical Damage received by 1 per Grit.
Resolve
Reduces each instance Energy Damage received by 1 per Resolve.

I got those descriptions from illuvialmaster page, you could check it out go to Arena menu and then dictionary, some descriptions might be out of date but should be good enough

[eternal pelican]

thank you so much this is very helpful!

[fallen flare]

i made it to wavew 24 i acended my snake to max lost the round and re did checkpoint

but the checkpoint didnt have my acension token the next time is this a bug?

every single time i restart from 24 checkpoint i lose my acension token

[inner orbit]

Yeah thats a bug, you should report it, sometimes it does work as expected but sometimes it just doesnt return the tokens you actually had

[fallen flare]

hmm i think it occurs because my first attempt at the round was a failure and the token was consumed i will try force fail the round without using token to test this theory

[inner orbit]

Sure, if you can provide as much info to reproduce the bug that would help the devs a lot

[jade pecan]

that bug has been noticed, may get fix in next patch

[fallen flare]

i spent legitimately 3 hours trying to get wave 24

i want my time back XD

the mastery point dissapeared again

[fallen flare]

i streamed the whole thing

you can watch my broadcast if you wanna see it again and again XD

[inner orbit]

Maybe Tin is right, if it was a known bug it could be fixed with the patch thats comming

[zenith bough]

We’ve had bugs persists for years without fixing, so best not to get your hopes up.

[rustic cloud]

What triggers the bug in Arena Survival where the match starts on its own while I'm moving or evolving my units? It's really frustrating because I've lost twice in a row due to this same issue.

[gaunt stag]

I thought this patch was supposed to have a new arena mode?

[olive hedge]

Patch hasent been implemented yet

[gaunt stag]

Oh ok thanks

[gritty wren]

who wanna play some gauntlet

[stiff helm]

I mean I would love to have the time to watch it. Can you clip the right part and send it to me so I can forward to the team please

[gaunt stag]

Is Kieran gonna do any AMA?

[stiff helm]

At some point yeah I imagine so, would need to check @zenith mortar on timings etc 🙂

[uneven ruin]

noone playing arena ranked ? im in que for 15mins 😅

[zenith bough]

Is your cancel button greyed out? If so you cannot get a game. It’s usually enough to go back and try again, otherwise it will reset after a hour and you can play again

[honest pasture]

is there a problem with the arena mode? Since last night I can't find any matches

[zenith bough]

No. Press 'B' to send in a bug report

[opal atlas]

mult acc are everywhere

[distant lintel]

where do yo usee leaderboards form past 24 hours?

is it from arena ascendant?

[opal atlas]

Survival mode

[distant lintel]

ehh of course.Why was i expecting they'd add something that is" soon" for about half of year already.

[blazing fractal]

Hallo

Is normal in arena survival that always error in every 15 to 20mins and you need to restart the laptop to continue again. Which is annoying and always made me lose. Since even after restart the timer still ongoing. And when connected the battle already start without changing your position or team.

[spark raft]

Do illuvial traits or levels affect them in arena?

[broken jolt]

man what's the point of even trying to play survival when it freezes so much?

[south lintel]

doesnt matter how many time i go back and try again, button is always greyed out

[weak shoal]

another day against 99% dust rogue enchanter, fun times

[ebon pagoda]

known bug for some time now.
u can also lose a token if u lost wave 10

[winter breach]

I heard wildfire is a counter, but didn't try it

[hallow notch]

Do we have the same table made for all of the classes/affinities/composite synergies? It's hard to access overviews of the all the synergies in one place.

[weak shoal]

some say fire, or verdant. There are things that work, but barely.
if there was a real hard counter it would be played as well, right ?
And when you achieve to tank that comp, the enchanter weapon comes in and ranger does 20k damage, cool.

and the truth is i'm more complaining about how boring it gets than actual balance

i can't imagine what's the day of a guy playing this, miror match after miror match

[broken jolt]

is it possible to beat enchant/dust/rogue with the hot fish deck?

[hallow notch]

This is why gauntlet will likely be more popular--forced diversity of team for everyone each and every match. Can't play rouge/dust/enchanter every game because you won't be able to roll that if everyone else is rolling it.

I think 1v1 is fun as well, but the problem with the 1v1 meta is how popular decks spread like wildfire (or just the cheaper/easier accesible decks) and there is too little diversity among the decks.

I think gauntlet will definitely fix this problem and make the whole experience just awesome!

[hallow notch]

Probably dust needs a slight nerf in blind time, would be my guess.

[cinder sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974132778666971136/1181198276536569876/Synergies.png?ex=66cc699e&is=66cb181e&hm=e2eae17996f6479d1076676cb5653c8d8533858a82408010c37f98fead83ac57&

[hallow notch]

This is with all the latest updates to the game after launch?

How come we don't have this available on the main website anywhere or anywhere in game?

[cinder sigil]

Not really playing much arena yet myself, so don't know. Probably not though.

[hallow notch]

This info needs to be quick accessible to new players wanting to learn the game.

[broken jolt]

arena must have the worst learning curve of any autobattler by a mile

it's so confusing

we have 50 different "combinations" but that's a relic of the old bonding system, right now you just need to memorize which two ways each illuvial in the game goes when upgraded

[cinder sigil]

Might be naive of me, but I feel that when the product is good enough, team will make barier of entry to that product less gated.

Not really a point in pushing noses in something that's going to change x more times.

[broken jolt]

many of the individual effects are needlessly complicated as well

no reason this couldn't be "mud units steal attack speed"

[hallow notch]

Good games will be rebalanced for their entire lifespan, but hopefully the changes needed get smaller and smaller. The game def feels more balanced now than a year ago, which is great to see.

[cinder sigil]

Bad games too 😉 But that wasn't what I meant. But nvm about that. I actually enjoy ow more than I thought and it's not that hard to beat those s3 autobattlers even without understanding little more than the basics of the game.

[fallen vortex]

Just make gyro dust and not revo and u sorted

[hallow notch]

Revo slayer then?

[hallow notch]

Writing optimizations have gotten a lot better, but could still be better

[odd wren]

How is reduce complicated? Steal would imply that the mud unit gains the attack speed that the enemy unit lost which is not the case. They reduce opponents attack speed and gain more energy per hit lol.

For exemple mjoll/jokull/jotun line steals some of the opponents stats after omega

Also if you replace the entire effect by steal attack speed, it would only be berserker on steroid

[fallen vortex]

Yup

[fallen vortex]

Well more attack speed is more energy by proxy.

But I agree that it wouldn't differentiate itself from berserker enough

[odd wren]

But more attack speed is also more dps and not just energy

Also this is just to say that if someone reads the game's descriptions, they aren't that complicated. I would argue that new people often don't know where to find the definitions is the real issue.

All games require a learning curve, it's just that often the definitions are not available in game.

I can't remember how many times someone asked what are grit/resolve

[broken jolt]

I'm advocating for simplifying the actual effect of abilities when possible, its not a writing issue

[marble stone]

We could use an in game dictionary of some sort to define things such as take down, vanquish, grit, resolve, etc but simplifying the battle mechanics sounds like a step in the wrong direction. Its not too hard once you know what it all means

[broken jolt]

we're going to lose a ton of players who aren't willing to play 30 games to learn which illuvials evolve into which compound affinities/classes before they get frustrated and quit

[odd wren]

I don't think simplifying is always for the best. We already lost unique features in the process to make onboarding easier and I feel ascendant as suffered from it (in my opinion). The game was never too popular tho. We removed augments from deck building and they are now free which in my opinion took some strategy out of the game. We also removed bonding

If I get in a tft/lol game I also need a lot of time to get used to it

[broken jolt]

I dunno, it was night and day for me picking up TFT vs me picking up gauntlet

and I already knew how to play TFT coming into gauntlet...

TFT just requires you to tape a table of the different weapon combos to your desk, which isn't ideal but it's one thing

[marble stone]

that is true we basically need the illuvialmaster website built into game so we can see all illuvials/synergies

[broken jolt]

I tried forcing dust/rogue/enchanter in a gauntlet bot game today without looking up the wiki first, couldn't even get dust because I guessed wrong on which illuvials evolve into dust

[marble stone]

I dont think it should tell you mid match (thats hand holding to me) but i do think the information should be available from the game itself

[odd wren]

We could probably add a feature for gauntlet which allow you to see the upgraded forms of the stage1 illuvials and composite somehow

Because in other games, you just upgrade to a stronger version

Also keep in mind that gauntlet is far from its final form and that there is probably a lot of QoL improvements coming

We're just now getting hotkeys in next patch and gauntlet is in its early days

[jade pecan]

Damn, that wave 18 is super hard

[plain flame]

Yeah, not gonna lie. As someone who used to play competitive pokemon, generally easily within top 200 worldwide, and MtG at a weekly tournament level I probably represent your average try-hard, but non autistic player.

Trust me when I say

1. The abilities, and effects are not well explained. EG: Wtf is grit/resolve/energy?

2)There are way too many types/combos spread across too few illuvials.

3)The game is overly complicated and doesn't have proper tooltips. Why do I need to go to illuvidata to see what a colossus does/is?

[jade pecan]

You’re just new to the game, spend more time and you will understand it, not that hard

[fallen vortex]

Yes this all needs work, and implementations both on the official website and especially ingame

[plain flame]

Yeah, that's a great way to have high player retention... all these different concepts?
Research them on your own, and pay us!

[fallen vortex]

Pokemon is better, but not by much. The key difference is it onboards you into the gameplay via playing the story.

The type advantages take a while for anyone new to learn. And there is like 500 abilities at this point, they have started duplicating them too

But the comparison is fair. There are 4 pokemon on the board at any given time, Illuvium is magnitudes more complex

[plain flame]

This is a large factor. It is a huge wall that definitely needs work. Concepts can be learned, but remembering 30 different type combos, their effects and synergies, with 16 Illuvials on the board is quite off putting. In pokemon there is of course the meta where we find ourselves limited to let's say a top 20 used pokemon where if you learn their effects, it is usually enough.

Very overwhelming for most players. I am not a genius for certain, but also not stupid. It feels like in software engineering "over engineered". Using a katana to cut pancakes.

[fallen vortex]

It certainly needs more work. But outside of UI do you have a specific recommendation to fix it?

[warped ocean]

@hidden charm hey can you add me tyt

[fallen vortex]

There have been discussions in the past about puzzles. Eg it has a specific 5 illvuials on the board. And explains those specific types, omegas etc. Then says solve this by moving illuvials

Ultimately Brock is a puzzle. Charmander gets stomped, go capture a grass type

Also I remember the 1 turn YuGiOh puzzles quite well, they were super fun

[plain flame]

I know people may not like the idea of changing the base game, but I don't think it is wise to start off with so many types, and different effects.

Start off basic. First couple months of the game Fire/Earth/Air/Water, with abilities for each of those.
Then once you have a solid player base, add in hybrids.

The player base will have the basics down by that time, and will look at hybrids(predator/colossus etc) as a cool new feature.
I personally don't even think that the hybrid classes need an extra ability, but if they do, then maybe reduce the number of hybrid abilities?

The amount to learn at one time is reduced and you can implement them as new features giving people stuff to look forward to.

It is what I mean by overengineering.
Imagine if Yu-gi-oh started with not just regular summoning, or fusion, but also the XYZ summoning, pendulum summoning, link summoning, etc etc.

By spreading these out over time it gives players a chance to adapt.

[fallen vortex]

I dont agree hahah.

I like all the stuff the game currently has and honestly its not even all that complex. The issue is that everything happens at once. And by that I am mostly referring to Omegas/Synergies/Hyper all bringing complex systems and happening at the same time. Breaking them up in a way that someone can learn them is important

[jade pecan]

I wish people spend time to learn through arena tutorial, it explains a lot there.

[plain flame]

But think about who you are vs who your target audience is.

You make excel files that run scripts to calculate Illuvial collections based on color status/holo etc.

You are gigabrain.

Most people who you want to reach are looking to strategize, copy some top teams and maybe use their favorite Illuvials in a decent combo. I think the barrier to entry is too high for normal gamers atm on an intellectual level.

[rancid raptor]

If I may, it seems we have just too many things
We have classes (bulwark etc)
Affinities (fire etc)
Composites classes
Perhaps we can just ignore one? Like let affinities only be used to counter the opposite team instead of also having a unique buff?

[plain flame]

Yes. This is what I mean. Too much at the start.

[fallen vortex]

If I consider our audience, and we extrapolate TFT. I'd say they have way less synergies, but also that their synergies are wayyyyyy more complex.

Whenever I make an attempt at a new set I gotta do more reading than I did in my final year of High School. But people enjoy the game, and so I don't think we are 'too complex'. Or at least we dont need to delete 80% of synergies

[rancid raptor]

We have less amount perhaps, but each unit has 3 traits instead of 2 right?

[fallen vortex]

I could see value in having the affinities be purely for hyper and classes be purely for synergy bonuses and things like that

[fallen vortex]

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[rancid raptor]

Yeah this is what I meant, it seems more intuitive

[fallen vortex]

I believe the problem is onboarding, not final state.

The game does not give people the chance to learn each synergy or effect 1 at a time. If we solve that its fine

Things like gym battles

tutorials

puzzles

[jade pecan]

The game used to be more complicated with the 4 versions of a stage 3 unit + bonding system

it's much more simple now.

[rancid raptor]

That is true, but I still think Sensei has a point that is theres just too many things. If anything, I'd like to have more variables regarding items and situational things

[plain flame]

I haven't played TFT, so I honestly cannot comment on that comparison. But just maybe there is a reason why a very large vocal majority want to get rid of the autobattler/autochess altogether.

If we decide to stick with it, we need the team to hire someone more versed in on boarding/game design, cause it is so poor atm. It really feels like we are just thrown in there.

[rancid raptor]

Imagine when we add ranger, weapons, items, etc

[fallen vortex]

Okay I see, we are having 2 completely different conversations

The Arena and the Overworld are 2 completely different games. The autobattler will be removed from the Overworld soon and replaced with something more engaging. The Arena is targetting TFT players

If you have not yet played TFT I recommend doing so since they are the target audience

There is nothing stopping the DAO from making a new game thats much simpler. But that's better than just deleting the autobattler altogether, which is targetting a specific niche

[jade pecan]

You refer the illuvial combat?

[fallen vortex]

yes

[fallen vortex]

And yes the autobattler needs a bunch of work as well. I mean we got Ascension in the Ascendant mode, before then it was even more overwhelming

[plain flame]

I mean I personally think the autobattler has great potential, but it does need a rework. I just think most players are pushing so hard for OW right now because the autobattler is overly complicated. I don't know the solution, I am sorry.

[hoary mason]

So when can i buy an umbrella for 10$

Does anyone want to gift or sell me a dog shit stat umbra for 10$?

[fallen vortex]

I think thats the issue. They are mutually exclusive. Improving and enhancing the overworld doesn't need to have anything to do with Arena

[granite osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/despicable-me-minions-umbrella-friends-take-care-gif-1130769204281648913

i have some umbrella at house.10 is great value

[plain flame]

I agree with you.

[steady spade]

@lavish python it was a great game

[solemn tundra]

I would like my companion drone to give me little hints during game play e.g. highlight the area on the board, where I should place my next Illuvial.

These hints are in-game currency and can be earned from other actions/shop or are free and plenty for Arena beginner modes.

Maybe a hint can be unlocked in stages e.g. first it shows you what Illuvial to pick, if this is not enough for you then it shows you where to place it next. If you don't need all stages you earn additional hints.

There are endless ways to implement such an "AI Teacher" on top of a complicated game.

We often talk about the lack of progression in current game designs. If we could make "learning the game" the actual progression and package this learning effect in some nice gamified dopamin producing way, we could achieve both.

People like learning new stuff, when they are not overloaded, are rewarded by a teacher (drone) and slowly become independent and see the progression they make. And the hints can be subtile, so they don't even know they are helped e.g. Illuvials can only be placed in certain board areas.

They also have to loose fear from failure e.g. we can offer a undo/redo in certain game modes. You try your best and if you still loose the round, you can try it again, instead of loosing the whole game.

We can keep the core game very complicated for e-sports etc. while at the same time make it accessible for casual players and add some gamification at the same time.

When casual players know that they are playing a difficult ranked/e-sports game and can still be good at it (with hints) they might actually have even more fun than playing a simple game.

[gritty wren]

In game purchases for arena tips is definitely the wrong way to go

[solemn tundra]

Why ?

[gritty wren]

For player experience you need a mode where you dont need to spend any money. Yes its optional as you said but it will ruin the mode since people who lose will blame it on the ai hints and this makes the ascendant mode even pay to win

[solemn tundra]

Yes this is true. But there could be a mode specifically for P2W. Although I do agree, that these hints should be earned e.g. from winning a round etc. and not be paid with fuel.

[gritty wren]

I see this idea but only in survival or in some other learning areas

[silver merlin]

#1020759212172775464

[solemn tundra]

What is your main concern ? I see this Assistant as enabling new game modes for casual players. Players with experience who don’t want help still have their old game modes. We can create so many games from the core Arena tech, some might not look like the existing auto battler at all. A game studio should stick to its core competency and create as many games as possible using it.

[solemn tundra]

Is this a hint to create an idea post or is there already one ?

[silver merlin]

To create one, in this channel as you see it will get spammed over quickly and nobody of the team will probably see it

[lean ivy]

As scoriox has mentioned, try tft it's on a different level. It goes faster and their are more mechanics. I would say guantlet is actually simpler than tft in its current state. And that's why it needs more to be competitive.

[solemn tundra]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1277511955782963240