🎮〕illuvium-arena

[quasi elk]

The not

[rapid knot]

hey can you check how many matches you played this week?

[autumn vapor]

I am trying to get into arena, anyone can help me learn to play?

[tropic moon]

not really, you can on illuvialmaster but it doesn't record 100% of the matches so you can't be sure

correct

[rapid knot]

disasta 😦

[tropic moon]

there is no official tutorial just yet but there are guides from illuvihub and illuvidata for example, also there is a lot of guides on youtube you can find

[safe valve]

https://youtu.be/VGZc9LTF1VM?si=CtAonp_lFnqcDSC6

[lucid plume]

gm

[civic grotto]

Anyone willing to write what they dislike about pvp arena? (not the latest patch, but in general, since it was launched) Need it for my next vid 🙂

[worldly jolt]

Yeah

[serene lance]

Not enough dopamine.

[alpine dagger]

I like everything thats done by game and devs , but i didnt like how community made it dull and stuborn with simple 1 deck mirrors, becouse high skilled player shouldnt showcased exact positioning , augmentation and unit pathing, we should have had much way wider metas, teams and diff playstyles, but nope, we had 90% similarities over all games and patches 🙂 i think it would be fire if people actually enjoyed playing their favourite units , and building teams and synergies around them 🙂
But nope we got step by step guides, and i felt it somewhat easier to win around 1800mmr rather than in silver, where 99% players have for example viper opening spamming it unlimited times, and making game look like a coin flip, ofc its coin flip when all ppl wanna do is mirror winning decks , and gain some adventage on leaderboard by playing same dekcs over amd pver again, thats where we lose agency,fun and future for this game mode, to prevent this i suggest we get TFT type mode , where you need to actually play what you get by random , so u are not able to spam behemoth verdant, or spore dust endlessly , if game jusy drops you templar, then you gotta play templar , and learn it, adjust your skills and informations about it, and assemble it best as you can, i wanna see 3x t1 ramphy making 1 t2 , and i wanna see some1 actually collecting 9 t1 units first to acctualy combine them to 3x T2 ramps and then getring finnaly that spike from t3 Ramph

[granite osprey]

too long

[cyan olive]

Game was great until augments were made low impact and bloom was made shit.

[cursive echo]

Bloom 😭

[cursive echo]

How long have you been playing arena mode?

[alpine dagger]

1month, first week i played i was top15 max placed, i am around 1800 mmr average on each week, since i started, i was highest rating in dota underlords, wich is TFT from dota2 , before TFT underlords and mobile pegends auto chess existed, i was one of first players that spammed autochess in dota2 as game mode in custom maps made by community, steam wanted to make new game out pf mpst played custom map, and ot was autochess

I jave reached hoghest rating in MBL autochess as well

Since dota underlords gave announcment that they wont update game for next 10 years bcz their players on dota2 were fading bcz of mode

I stopt it, and kept grinding Highest rating in mobile legends ranked( immortal) i was alsp playing chess on highest possible rating but i got bored, bcz i found illuvium way much more onteresting

Btw i am diamond league player since season 2, i am Immortal 6k mmr on dota ( average pro rating )

I saw illv autobattler few years ago and i was waiting for arena for so long , i wont bother playing overworld , bcz i aint much of time waster on open world games, so i think enabling TFT mode, and playing all units without having to spend months in open would cathing units would be very good, bcz i think huge amount of player base will leave

Bcz not every1 wanna invest their time collecting units , not all of us enjoy running on that biomes and chasing some chickens and cows

We wanna play strategic tactical high skilled pathing and game understanding games

Keeping arena duel, and adding 1 more tft alike mode is a win/win for this project

[cursive echo]

Okay 1 month you've seen the worst updates in the game perma frost inferno ramphy 😢

[cyan olive]

Yeah drinking and anime have been more fun lately

Our lord and savior phosphorus will return one day

[alpine dagger]

I've been playing in behemoth veradnt i think at start, maybe started with toxic decks, i saw bloom templar, i saw empaths woth wildfire templars , ive seen revenant dust, I've seen Ramph decks, i like them all, but there is plenty things we missed by having 99% players playing premade decka woth premade posotions, so i had to addapt and play mirror and out skill ppl in better match decisions in position and augments:) once i started spammong meta i was back on top 25 easy, once i tried to play my fav units and search for new metas, i was down in silver 😄

[cursive echo]

I watch ninja Kamui 👍

[alpine dagger]

I suggest you : solo leveling
And : Kamui ninja
2 new animes that are breaking internet

[alpine dagger]

Kamui ninja and solo leveling are top now

But very low amount of episodes

[cyan olive]

I like solo leveling, somewhat slow for my taste but objectively very good

Kamui ninja I haven’t heard before

[alpine dagger]

Its new, only 5 eps so far, but its moving way faster than solo lvl

[cyan olive]

Will check it out thx

[alpine dagger]

I liked OPM a lot, been waiting for more animated eps for so long rn , i dont like reading managa and spoiling stories

[cursive echo]

You will like

https://tenor.com/view/nauthiiz-higan-joe-ninja-kamui-gif-417915537280380976

[cyan olive]

👀

[alpine dagger]

We as well need Names appear on leaderboard once they play 15 games for week, if that way 2hard, at least Fade away names that are not eligible, like 50% opacity, so we can actually calculate our placement before reward distribution comes 🙂

[alpine dagger]

1 more thing , never do Rating reset , we will have highest skilled players matched against lower skilled players , it wont be very good, rather do Halving

Just make ppl lose 50% pf rating , keeping 2k mmr players on 1000 mmr average start, and 1500 mmr players would preform on 750 average mmr , while our newbies will face in rather 500< mmr

Never spit on time and process we went to achive and prove why we are at top 🙂

@noble radish read my reviews and insights on game , its all in few messages above , hope it helps

[noble radish]

We aren’t spitting on anything. There is some issue with the algorithm since we changed the placement level of the game. Doing a full reset helps to solve that. If you are good at the new mode then you will probably get to the top in less than a day. Just think of it as a speed run. It helps massively with out data.

Just keep remembering that we are pre launch and with so many things changing it is important we have the ability to correct for those changes. Once the game is live it will be stable. After going live we won’t full reset rankings.

[alpine dagger]

If the reason is solving issues, then i fully agree, i will speed run it to top probably on 1 day, as iv been doing it for past months 🙂

I was concerned about whole match making system with rank reset, but we have reason for that i guess, keeping duel mode, while adding new mode is better then just removing the mode that serve us so well, i think current arena is working well, i just think community should adjust more to it, rather then look for step by step guides,

Having 2 modes could bring more players, some ppl like this, some ppl might more like something else

[noble radish]

We are hoping that this will be the last major revision of Ascendant. Probably there will be small things after launch but we will see

[alpine dagger]

I find arena very well working and adapted

[noble radish]

We are working on an 8 player mode. It isn’t being developed, only designed. But it is pretty much done.

[noble radish]

We think there is a lot of improvement left.

The development of the 8 player will start after we release the new changes.

[alpine dagger]

Ppl might have been putting themselves in loops due to lack of skill, copying pro players tactics and positions, game got it self way 2 closed for new teams, since none wanna lose some rating to adjust their own teams, and would rather make mirror games for sake of some rewards

I think it has plenty more space to get even better than some 8 player long games, sometimes we wanna play shorter arena duelatches and practice how some unita preform against others

And sometimes we wanna sit , and put in tons of hours in to longer games with8 players, and get that juicy rewards out of it, so having fast paced mode and long more competitive modes at a same time is way better

Than just removing one already existing mode to boost our productivity in new mode

I would suggest keeping 1v1 type of arena where we go with 20% of current rewards, and focus 80% pf rewards to boost new game mode 🙂

I've been in gaming for around 20 years , hope my insights will be suported by plenty other players

I personally dont want to see arena 1v1 dead , it keeps growing everyday

New People struggle adjusting to 1 team they play, and 1 enemy at a time, we would have pure chaos in 8 man games 😄

I am a little bit concerned about the fact that we are moving same as Mojo planet ,that has 1v1 duel mode, and they added mojo melee as more player based gamemode, but they have went with a little bit different type of tft mode,i suggest you check out how they have done it, since they did that before us 🙂

I rather like tft type of games, than what mojo did there in meele

[calm steeple]

pretty sure Aaron meant that 1vs1 mode will stay and 8vs8 mode is in additional capacity somehow

[low comet]

The annoying part is those people who kept saying that arena was trash back then because augments were too broken and say that illuvials should be the star of the game not the augments are the people who remains at low elo or doesnt even play arena up until this moment.
We lost a lot of good players ever since that frost patch

[civic grotto]

I thought I was getting tilted a lot, but Demon1 is the king of tilt, whoever that guy is. 😂

Oh nvm, its new smurf acc..

[bronze spire]

yea i feel like the aug nerf was because the team listened to people saying this haha, ive always like strong items/augs, i felt it made illuvials shine more not less

[supple beacon]

The issue with weak items is that if your team is countered, you do not have a way to help your team beat the other team. It was hard before but now it is impossible.

[low comet]

I think it's time for the team to listen to the players who are actually good at the game. Not on some random players who's saying that the game is bad just because they can't win enough

[low comet]

imagine if they didn't change the immune augment back to 1 cast of omega, we will be playing dust mirrors over and over

[bronze spire]

good point haha the 1 item that seems like the strongest atm is the reason there is a second meta team, kind of highlights the point

[serene lance]

Where's arena at right now, is there a new patch coming? I've heard some people mention it, what's included?

Also this new gamemode, is that a soonish thing for us to test, or longer term?

[bronze spire]

same patch until new game mode (still 1v1) in about 2 weeks i think, give or take a week

[calm steeple]

interesting if we will have rerolls(like in TFT) for normal augment choices that will be offered to each player separately in the new version of 1vs1

[torn remnant]

Around what mmr would you expect people to have well built decks?

[worldly token]

300 because they are all copied

[torn remnant]

I see

[clear hinge]

In arena, there are some bot???

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/dicaprio-maybe-gif-20413224

[gloomy barn]

Stop believing in fake ILV god 😂

[cyan olive]

True, there is only one real god

https://tenor.com/view/hestia-gif-19228170

[split glade]

Hello
can any one help me to login on Arena
it shows that "Authentication failed"

[cyan olive]

Did you use email and then correct password?

[stiff ferry]

hellllo

i just start playing Arena and feel so exciting it good loool

[civic grotto]

Good luck! The more you learn about it, the more your hate will grow over time ..

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-smile-creepy-creepy-smile-smirk-gif-24584761

[stiff ferry]

LOOOOL

do you have any recommend for beginner to learn Arena

[ruby plover]

Hey guys! now is week 8 ?

[civic grotto]

Watch some YT videos and guides, start from there.

[stiff ferry]

Sure Thank you. Who is ur favorite? if it not bother u

[civic grotto]

Some random guy named Viper, I've heard he is the best i guess.

[stiff ferry]

ohkay gona watch it!
Thanks mate!

[worldly jolt]

Yes. Middle of week 8

[stiff ferry]

does anyone know wea i can check recomended pc spec

[alpine dagger]

Is there any issue on week6 reward drop?

[west quartz]

Threadripper + RTX 4080 should be okay for normal graphics

[worldly jolt]

It’s not been sent yet. Perhaps you are asking why it has not been sent yet. I don’t know why. Delayed to do it properly is what the response has been for the past several weeks.

[alpine dagger]

Been losing to silvers, but rekting Highest ranked players ,silvers are such unpredictably bad

😄 what a irony

[languid tulip]

The game is harder when you can’t predict everything your opponent is going to do.

[terse pewter]

is there somewhere I can see how many games ive played this week?

[civic grotto]

Um... Can we stop arena rewards, until new game mode is out?

[ivory rune]

https://arena.illuvium.io/team-builder/365deddc-b828-49e3-a75b-6739cc62810c

awwww I thought it would pop a preview picture of the team for peeps to peep @ivory rune New Fire Rank climbing team comp idea of mixing old and new Meta together .... with Dreams of Future Shock Dominant Team with Wave 3 Illuvials in mind..... heheheheheheee mauaahahahahaaaa! $#%!@@!%#$

anyone know how to set up a microphone to a PC can walk me through it? that way I can communicate in the voice channels

[worldly jolt]

Usually you just plug it in.

Maybe this https://youtu.be/F3oo1e39fNA?si=2-za8x4HwmhPBuPg

[slow pewter]

If you have to there are various settings available at control panel/sounds

[verbal stream]

Does arena has an API for battles or is something planed?

[cyan sinew]

is ther anything to teach us how to play ?

it seems realy hard and anoying to play without knowleg

[cyan olive]

youtube is the best place to find guides and beginner help atm

[lavish python]

does the augment that reduces 70% healing, reduces the regen rate for verdant?

[cyan olive]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

yes

[lavish python]

Thanks!

[twilit forum]

Tell me, if I just signed up to get into the weekly ranking, I have to play 25 calibration games, and then play at least 15 games a week, right?

[hardy minnow]

If you just started today, and played 25 calibration on or before this coming thursday, you'll be eligible since you've played 15+ games before thursday

[twilit forum]

Calibrate once, and then you need to play at least 15 games every week, right? Don't you need to go through it again?

[hardy minnow]

the 25 is just a one time lifetime requirements, then the 15 should be the weekly, before the arena snapshot

[twilit forum]

I got it, thanks a lot.

[twilit forum]

Do the rewards come with some kind of delay?

[vale coral]

Illuvialmaster uses one for match history

[verbal stream]

Great. Do you know where I can get the info about it?

[vale coral]

AFAIK there isn’t any public info on it. But I was able to play with it with network tab in dev tools.

[cursive echo]

https://tenor.com/view/gpo-update5-gif-25774271

[faint ibex]

Looks like the Illuvium is really interesting game 🙂 Started playing few days ago (only arena). Didn't understand anything at first, but the more I learn - the more interesting it becomes. After a number experiments and many lost matches finally created my own team that I'm not disappointed with 🙂 What do you think? Any suggestions on how it can be improved? https://arena.illuvium.io/team-builder/9deab3fa-eadc-465e-b9e3-aa3e242939da

[worldly jolt]

The rewards for each week are getting distributed at like a 2+ week delay. But when they are distributed they are sent directly to the wallet. No vesting period.

[gentle bronze]

@junior geyser getting hit with rhamph ult while my rhamph is in the air

Im going to punch a hole through my monitor

gg tho UwU

[junior geyser]

gg's my man, love the emote usage 😉

[gentle bronze]

based af

[silver merlin]

There is a moment right before he goes into the air where he dodges it

[west plume]

Dragoncoin that was a fun one

[warm rivet]

guys are you beating the deck that everyone playing or just playing mirror? only facing 1 deck all day.

trying to beat it but so small chance since i loose first 3 rounds everytime

[west plume]

is it a Rhamphyre and 3 spinning little shits?

[warm rivet]

yes ofc xD

[west quartz]

mirrors

[ruby plover]

When week 8 ends?

[west quartz]

48hours from now

[lusty bridge]

In survival mode is there a pause button so I can review the deck?

[serene lance]

In unranked theres no timer. In ranked you can not pause, they should make round one timer a few minutes long so you can review the deck.

[cyan sinew]

page? how u learned?

[pastel plank]

Guys did I get paid to my acc?? I got 14 dollars worth of illuvium

But I'm only like 800 somthing in the ratings can't be correct right ?

[hardy minnow]

yeah that's correct, as inactive and smurfs got removed from the list, and everyone was moved to the highest rank placement

[silver merlin]

Top 500-100 get 0.12 ilv

[noble radish]

Fun Exercise For Everyone

With the new 8 player mode that is being designed, I wonder if you could all tell me the things that you would like to see. Keep in mind, this has already been fleshed out, but we haven't started development so if there are some good ideas we can implement them.

I won't tell you what we have designed (yet) but I will tell you the challenges so that you can think of solutions.

Note: The plan is to use a "Shared Pool" with a "Shop" like Underlords, TFT, or even Poker.

Challenge 1: Bringing in a full team into an 8 player mode leads to even more static gameplay where there is no chance for RNG and pivoting. However, we are an ownership based game, so at least some things need to be brought in to the game. The challenge is how you can take things in, and still give people the ability to pivot.

Challenge 2: Most of these types of games have stages that don't fundamentally change the unit. For example Anti Mage Bronze -> Silver -> Gold. We have Rhamphy, Rhamphite, Rhamphyre, That makes it tough, because any use of cards in our game needs to be based on the unit, rather than the line. So in our game we need to ensure that there is a difference between bringing in a Rhamphy card and a Rhamphyre card, AND both need to be reasonable choices.

There are other challenges but these are the main two we found. Would love to hear feedback on what you love about these games, what has to stay, what you would like to see improved etc. I will be showing what we have before we start building, so don't worry about that. But if I show you first it's going to influence your opinion. Best to just tell us what you're thinking.

[cyan olive]

I think this is likely very basic thinking but would be my first idea, you could force teambuilding rules to create a shared pool out of exactly the amount of specific tier/stage illuvials and create shop odds around that/add the player choices to the pool, making the odds change every game due to amount of illuvials ranging from x-y (no player, all 8 have brought it)

Then to give more relevance to the personal choices you could have multiple events in the game while some of them give you e.g. a shop or few only from your personal pool.

The pool could break down all illuvials into stage 1 but you can only have X stage 2/3 ones of illuvials you didn’t bring in your current team/on the board.

Could choose an Illuvial before/during/change during the game out of ones you own as a hero/companion or w.e. word fits for special effects or better access/odds for certain illuvials from the pool.

[cyan olive]

You can check my yt or illuvination, I learned by myself.

[mighty tulip]

Challenge 1: I'd seriously consider not having ownership play a major role in this game mode. Only cosmetic (you own a holo atlas then that's what you get from the shop) and exp for the illuvials you play that you also own.

[zenith bough]

A shared pool coming from the players Illuvials would be nice. I think a standard pool should be created for every player without needing Illuvials . If a player joins that has Illuvials, that pool would be exchanged for the players Illuvials. This way you get to play with your Illuvials (more likely) and get a slight advantage, but a good player would still be able to outplay (only disadvantage is not knowing (some of) the content of the shared pool).
If 7 players join without Illuvials and the last player have enough Illuvials for all 8 players, those should be used. This way ownership plays a role, without impacting gameplay for free to play players.

[woven flint]

don t do the same trash as tft were on later round as you see your opponent move, it s the one who are able to move his team the faster in the last 5s

[calm steeple]

Shop could be the same for everyone exactly like in all autobattlers, but you bring 1 or more of your illuvials as heroes who don't participate in the battle. These heroes provide specific bonuses during the battle. For example rhampfyre could add inferno augment with certain % to draw on augment pick. Gnarl could give bonus to verdant healing radius and/or strength. Squizz could give mastery points bonuses. Doka could give attack speed bonus, but only to fighters. T1 illuvilails could give bonuses to specific traits while T3 could give bonuses to a wider range of units if not the whole team. TFT did something like this in set 9 with Legends.

[noble radish]

Kieran would like the cut of your jib.

[vivid stirrup]

1: choose X amount of illuvials you bring yourself, those can be used to upgrade your units. for example you bring in 2 rhamphys and 8 Geyysirs. They cannot be played on their own but they can be used to upgrade. so if you find a 1 star rhamphy in the deck pool you can then use the 2 1star rhamphys you brought to create a 2 star rhamphy. or if you find a geysirr u can use the 8 geysirs u brought to instantly get a 3 star geysir (9x 1star unit = 3star unit)
that would also be a solution to number 2. as 3 rhamphys dont upgrade to rhamphite just into a rhamphy 2 star.

[noble radish]

And what about stages?

[calm steeple]

I actually meant stage 1 giving specific smaller bonuses while stage 3 bigger/wider or whole team, not tiers

[noble radish]

But it’s a big problem for challenge 1. That version would force people to play what’s in their hand almost exclusively.

[noble radish]

If I have a stage 1 then do I just not upgrade it?

[cyan sinew]

please give me your youtub id

[vivid stirrup]

what about only being able to bring 1x rhamphy 1x geysir, etc. so that way you can still find randomly 3x atlas in the shared deck pool and play that but you have a bit more advantage to hard force the comp you wanted to play, but still kinda open to play it in tft style.
could also be a small solution to the problem in tft where its super frustrating that you find 2x of a unit but never find the third one and lose to that bad rng

[cyan sinew]

if anybody working on making content about learning this game, i will be glade to share it with me, tnx

[zenith bough]

10 messages up: #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

An answer already

[vivid stirrup]

the worst moments in tft that stuck with me vividly is when i am going for an uncontested unit and i cannot find it in 20+ shop rerolls. ofc this is just part of rng, to be hard lowrolling at times but if we can make this a bit less punishing i think that would enhance player satisfaction

[cyan sinew]

cant find it, please tag me on reply

[noble radish]

Can you bring in Rhamphyre? If so why would you ever bring in anything else?

[vivid stirrup]

if u click my profile u can see my youtube link. daily gameplay guides and streams

[calm steeple]

The ones you bring as heroes you dont upgrade at all, they are set in stone when the battle started with their bonuses, they gave the bonuses and their role is over once the battle started. Stage 1 gives similar bonus to stage 2 and 3 but more specific towards some units while bonus widens and gets stronger with each stage. Stage 1 and 2 would be mostly for starting out and players who dont yet have stage 3, everyone would have stage 3 illuvials as heroes in top players once they have caught them or bought.

[cyan sinew]

Tnx

[noble radish]

Seems very much pay to win, which is against the guideline of this mode. But it’s interesting. For the record I considered this strongly.

[vivid stirrup]

you can bring rhamphyre, you would bring it to be better in lategame (you couldnt play the cards you bring on their own, it only gives you better chances to upgrade to 2star rhamphyre in lategame). you could also just bring the small units which are gonna give you better chances in the early game

[noble radish]

What is 2 star Rhamphyre? Rhamphyre is already the 3 star Pterodsctyl.

[vivid stirrup]

3 basic (bronze) rhamphyre would upgrade to a silver rhamphyre, similar to tft, so 9x rhamphys are a gold rhamphy not a rhamphyre

[noble radish]

Also I’m asking the questions just to help the conversation. I’m not trying to be a jerk or dismissive. Most of this stuff we went through. It’s fun to see that the main ideas are similar.

[cyan olive]

Making matchmaking less random than eg tft would be nice (personal opinion to be fair ^^)

I think positioning in ILV is more extreme than in TFT re things like assassins/furthest enemy abilities etc. If you have to gamble next opponent that part might decide things more than other inputs

[vivid stirrup]

i like the idea mentioned above where you select your hero illuvial. very similar to tft and underlords where you have legends or heroes that you select before the game to nudge your gameplay experience a bit towards a certain playstyle

[calm steeple]

You can tweak the % of the each stage bonus or bonus itself not to be substantial, so its not as pay to win. Maybe even stage 1 gives you already full bonuses and then they just get stronger with each stage by 2% or something no other additional benefits as full bonus is given at stage 1, that is not that insane and will not swing games, barely pay to win.

[cyan olive]

The legend thing in tft ended up with everyone picking the flex slightly above 4.5 avg legend, aka orn almost the entire patch, it barely added anything to gameplay in that case.

[vivid stirrup]

could they have designed the legends bonuses more in a way where they give you more opportunities to play a certain way but not influence the winrate much so the choices are preference and not meta based?

or will there always be a best legend that supports the current meta

[cyan olive]

I think you will just have a „best“ option most of the time and due to website/streamers most will pic it

Sometimes you could gamble on gold/silver/prismatic start instead of picking average one, eg lee sin was best on silver start asol on prismatic at given patches

[vivid stirrup]

what about, you can bring 3x hero illuvials. e.g. atlas rhamphyre and adorius

at a certain stage of the game you can choose one of them to be your hero. that will give you extra synergies. for example i ended up going for bulwarks so i pick atlas which will give me +100 shield.
or i see i have a good early game so i risk it and go rhamphyre which gives me 1% board wide max health dmg, good for the lategame

that way it would be like a legendary augment phase that is influenced by which hero illuvials you bring,

could be more randomized as the hero bonuses could be 1 out of 4. so atlas could give u 100 shield or 100 health or X

as im writing this i realize it sounds very much like the legends system in tft.. 😄 welp

[cyan olive]

From my player pov all of those options read like ->website tells me what is optimal due to stats-> pic it

[vivid stirrup]

but if there are 10x different meta teams that you could play, there could be 10x different hero illuvials that are viable that support all those decks.

i think in tft the problem was that 1 legend gave you an advantage for almost all teams you ended up playing.

[cyan olive]

Any 100% thing in such a mode would be „solved“.
1v1 Card games have different decks due to rock paper scissors, but in a battle royal setting there will probably be just be a most powerful option.
Again from my pov playing/competing in such games.

[cyan olive]

Yeah 10x different meta teams doesn’t sound real.

[vivid stirrup]

not yet ^^ we had patches where we had like 5x viable teams already. and this is without the propper AI testing that will come later on

[cyan olive]

Tft legends meta were more a fall back to slightly above average augment, so you couldn’t low roll augments, speaking about orb through most of the set.
If you go into the game forcing reroll before seeing anything you played lee sin eg

[cyan olive]

In 1v1 not battle royal with shops.
TFT meta in a more vanilla set re current mechanic has 1-2 comps most lean towards, then few reroll comps you can have a good random spot for so maybe 0-1 per game go for it and maybe few tier 2-3 comps that work if you again have good random events for them.

[cyan olive]

Also in reality we didn’t have that imo, we had no rewards and people playing what they liked > trying to win as much as possible, very likely there was always 1-2 optimal choices at a time and we should have cycled through the rock/paper/scissors counter depending on the % of current teams played.

[vivid stirrup]

what you think about being able to bring X illuvials as "upgrade cards" so i bring a rhamphy with me, and i can use this rhamphy when i have 2 rhamphys to act as the third so i can upgrade it to the next level

[calm steeple]

What if the units that you have selected as heroes instead of giving bonuses have specific augments attached to them. For example Lesser Water Dokas augments are Lesser Apex Empowerment, Lesser Devastation Surge, Lesser Fusion Ignitor. So when you are given the choice of augments during the match they are randomly drawn from the pool of augments of your heroes, you can't quite guarantee that you draw specific one you want, but do have a decent chance of getting it. Exalted Water Doka could have the same augments, but Exalted versions of them. If the augments are balanced and both lesser and exalted augments are viable, like it is now in the arena. Then both Lesser and Exalted versions of the illuvials would be viable and mode is not pay to win.

[faint ibex]

Hello! 🙂 Can anyone explain why I can't get 7 bulwark and 2 wildfire with this deck (in combat its 5 and 1 correspondingly somehow): https://arena.illuvium.io/team-builder/a5c3e374-f9ca-40d1-9904-4b0407c04102

Maybe it's a bug? Is there any way to test synergies outside the arena?

[woven flint]

flare + singe = 1 bulward as they are the same line

same goes for the grokko

[faint ibex]

Thanks! I didn't know that 🙂

[fallen vortex]

Okay so yall might hate it but I have given this a tonne of thought lately. I think its actually a net win if u ditch ownership for this game mode specifically and really try to clone TfT. You can expand the playerbase heaps and enable the casual friendly audience all in one hit. Its almost separate from the rest of Illuvium while enabling new users to easily interact with the Illuvium IP, and you do battle pass and all that. But I can still think of other ways to add ownership.

1. You bring 6-8 Illuvials and they can influence what appears in your shop by about 5-10% in terms of odds. Both giving them purpose in influencing your strategy without making it overly pay to win. The other thing is holo illuvials appear as holos and so on.

2. The only other downside of TfT is when u have an unlucky streak with shop rolls it feels really shit. You can add in extra rounds where it shows u 1 of 3 illuvials u really need in your team and things like that or maybe u can use ur illuvial nfts to create this pool that appears every so often. Players without nfts get an entirely random selection.

[woven flint]

not ditching completely the ownership, but why not you choose your illuvials, opponent same, and then they all go to a pool available for everybody ?
it s a "inbetween" there is still the concept where you ll see the illuvials you farmed and everybody happy ?

oh sorry you proposed the same, didn t read it in full

[bronze spire]

Could have owned illuvials have access to hyper while other dont, though maybe too much pay to win.

I think messing with odds of illuvials appearing will make it still pay to win but way more complicated to min max and understand. Eg. Maybe you dont want to own something to actually further increase the odds of a better illuvial you own showing up.

I also think having round robin 8 players with premade decks is a good option (especailly if augments are taken out of the deck selection)

[proven coral]

@twilit storm Owned. SIT

https://tenor.com/view/allu-x-osrs-gif-20424433

[sacred finch]

Challenge 1: Have you played Heasthstone Battlegrounds? Besides the normal units, at the start of each game you can choose a hero which have a "hero power", a special skill that can be passive or active being able to use once per turn maybe even paying some gold to use it, they also changed the amount of total health that each hero has to balance the hero powers, i think we could make something like that where you choose an illuvial just to have your special skill (the special skill could affect either the battle or the shopping phase)

Challenge 2: can we go back to when a titanor for example would also give 2 bulwark and 2 earth synergy? That way we can have the stages 1,2 and 3 of each line as the evolution 1,2 and 3 stars, if you don't lose the synergy you will always want to evolve your illuvials so we can base it on the lines instead of the units

[solemn tundra]

I think you have it right, Scoriox.

Let's create one Arena game mode that does not require Illuvial ownership, but focuses on the fun gameplay that we know works (TFT etc.) for the average Epic/Steam gamer. Let's even consider selling it for a fixed price, as crazy as it sounds for a web3 studio.

It is not good to force ownership onto a game design, when it doesn't help the fun and gameplay.

Make owned Illuvitars/Illuvials act as a kind of battle pass that increases your odds.

This could help bring the masses into our IP and game world without the stain of NFTs.

They might buy or win a few Illuvials/Illuvitars and start playing the other game modes and games.

[mighty tulip]

I'm glad I'm not the one thinking ownership in a TFT style mode just doesn't work. I see the risk though. Such a mode without ownership risks undermining the gameplay loop illuvium relies on to generate revenue. Why play OW ascendant/leviathan if you can just jump straight into an 8 player TFT mode with your mates for free. Even if we keep rewards exclusive to ascendant/leviathan I still think it's going to cause issues.

[solemn tundra]

Yes, there is a risk, but I would rather have millions playing one of our games for free (or small fixed price) and buying Illuvials/Illuvitars to enhance their chances, than being stuck with a web3 audience only, that only cares for their own bags and not the gameplay.

It is almost a hybrid approach to web3 gaming: There is still the web3 game loop that finds Illuvials in the OW on paid runs, but then sells them to the F2P player as a kind of battle pass.

It would be the coolest and best looking battle pass ever created.

We should not think about making money too much (I know it sounds crazy), but winning the minds for our DAO and IP.

[plush gate]

Before the update i was not having crashing issues and now I'm crashing atleast once per round and it's giving me grief I got up to 1600 rating before but now im unable to play properly because of this horrid crash issue, im running at 1080p low settings with a 980 ti, I don't know how to fix this or why new drivers would frig up an old card but its annoying as heck prior to the update I was not having any crashing issues

[faint ibex]

Are friendly units with counter-affinity interfere with my units' hyper, or this counter-affinity affects only opponent's team?

I mean if I'll place my earth unit near my fire unit, will my earth unit interfere with my fire unit's hyper?

[plush gate]

I just constantly get this crap every time I try play >_<

[cursive echo]

1: bring in your full team, but everyones assets get shuffled at the start and you have to buy a team from the shop like in tft. Aka you dont have to play your own deck necessarily.

2: give players the option to select which trait they want from a line: for example lets say i play a rhamphyre, but my team is full fire/rogue, so you can choose to make your rhamphyre fire/rogue instead of phantom/inferno

SMART ASS opinion 🫡

[twilit storm]

@proven coral wut? you can t own even my socks..too poor

[worn tree]

Quick thinking came up to my mind while I was reading you (I will iterate further, but here are first thoughts):

If shared pool is a constraint, and each pack of three evolves into next stage just as tft, that seems a good base. But this would bring nothing new from TFT, just the IP change and the blockchain tech providing ownership. I do think the latter is super relevant, but I guess if we want to make a real impact, we can't satisfy ourselves being copycats from TFT.

So here is the idea that I put onto the table:

Create Illuvial abilities and make these acquirable by playing in the OW or grinding that illuvial within the IP by using it. The illuvial has an xp bar and levels, and each level it unlocks stuff, cosmetics, stats and every certain amount of levels, abilities, passives or moves. Just highlighting this great aspect of pokemon, but on steroids. What the player can bring in the arena, is the illuvial itself but a set of skills that the trainer has been unlocking though overall game grinding in the Illuvium IP.

Imagine you have a rhampire that you love so much and you have trained it up to level 69, it has 3 potential passives related with inferno and phantom and 8 abilities or moves such as flamethrower, overheat, etc. Out of all of those, you bring "x"passives and "y" moves on the deck and then in game you can incorporate this moves to the illuvial by paying "z" resource. Of course as passives and abilities may have different power level, their cost shall differ.

What we get here is a mixture of TFT tabula rasa format (with a shared pool system and infinite game variability) and at the same time we reinforce the illuvium ownership aspect by bringing in your deck those skills that you have unlocked for your illuvial.

The beauty of giving cost to the skills make it so that, if properly balanced, a rha at level 80 may have more game options, but shouldn't be stronger than a lvl 20 rha as maybe lvl 75 move is very strong but also very expensive.

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-funny-lol-laughing-out-loud-giggle-gif-15515505

you bragging on this patch?

[worn tree]

In your deck you can run multiple skills from each illuvial (with well thought limitations) and, aiming not to subtract too much importance on the OW, we could make that in order to unlock that skill achieved in lvl 24, not only you need the illuvial level 24 or above, but also you need to pay resources "m,n and o" farmed in some particular regions of the OW related to the illuvial or the skill.

[twilit storm]

@worn tree " tabula rassa" one s 😉

[worn tree]

Thanks brother <3, please don't mind my typos as I wrote fast as fuck xd

[twilit storm]

always reading everything you write..coz I respect the big brains

[worn tree]

Awww, thanks man ❤️

[worn tree]

Of course, some moves require certain stage of the illuvial, so rhampite can't use flamethrower but rhamphire can.

Another idea that needs more thinking is the ranger. The ranger is smthing very unique for illuvium that TFT and other autochess brands don't have. We could capitalize on that, make the ranger more impactful by giving him additional protagonism, in game augments for the ranger, maybe you could bring in your deck abilities for the drone and also weapon passives. This is also combinable with shared pool of illuvials and NFT ownership brought in the deck.

[mighty tulip]

What about having TFT style carousel rounds. Each player picks 2 illuvials from there own collection beforehand to be up for grabs on the carousel

[proven coral]

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-teddy-altman-those-two-need-to-get-a-room-they-need-to-get-a-room-kim-raver-gif-9102106267258372684

[cursive echo]

addition: make sure you know who you fight next, cause the positioning matters a lot depending on if you play vs invokers or rogues

[twilit storm]

@proven coral use your nickname ingame next time..so i will be terrified by your skill mate. i am wondering who are you actually

[faint ibex]

If I'll place my earth unit near my fire unit, will my earth unit interfere with my fire unit's hyper?

[cyan olive]

only enemy units give +- to hyper

[faint ibex]

I see. Thanks! 🙂

[proven coral]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[worn tree]

I know his in-game name, you don't want to face him, trust me. He is a fucking beast, and he mindgames you like a champ not only in game but through DMs

[twilit storm]

brrr so scared

[proven coral]

https://tenor.com/view/ricky-bobby-best-show-off-excellence-will-ferrell-gif-10445709

[twilit storm]

the best in bronze tier..noice..even more scared, terrified Id say

[proven coral]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-gif-20140401

[twilit storm]

from the grave? sorry for you but my mom died severals years ago..asshole

[night thicket]

come on guys lets be nice to each other

[twilit storm]

meet me in real and talk bout my mother..i dare you little scumbag

[proven coral]

https://tenor.com/view/hockey-only-game-bryzgalov-anahe-gif-8306971

FR I'm just messing around dude. Ggs 😂

[night thicket]

let's calm down and just talk

this is a place for us to be friends

[twilit storm]

no need to talk bout mothers and parents..here in Italy we are really serious bout that..don t known if it s the same in the shithole u came from

[night thicket]

everyones mother is great lets not go down to that level

let's work together to make this a welcoming community

[worn tree]

I am sorry for your mother Quants, I am sure she was a great person.

[night thicket]

Let's stay respectful

[gentle bronze]

You're a great addition to this community 🙂 ❤️

[night thicket]

thank you! I want to bring out the best in this community

[vivid stirrup]

stop chatting with yourself jimbo 😂

[cyan olive]

👀

[noble radish]

Some great suggestions here.

[cyan olive]

👀

[sacred finch]

Tell us which ones 👀

[noble radish]

I will. It’s 3am. I’ll show you what we came up with and some of the ideas that we came up with hay didn’t make the cut.

[fair lintel]

stuck after the victory. time doesn't pass and nothing happens. is that a common problem?

[vivid stirrup]

it's a known problem, tho it does not happen a lot anymore. press B ingame to report the bug, then alt+f4 should get u out of it

[fair lintel]

I've already sent it. Thank you 👍

[worn tree]

Great, would love to know your feedback on our ideas 🤩🤝🏻

[night thicket]

ok i'll stop

[gentle bronze]

ok i'll stop

[cyan olive]

don´t stop jimbo

[vivid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-dog-awkward-dog-confused-awkward-confused-dog-gif-2881577801438605193

[civic grotto]

Who is the Guesss guy? He is on top of leaderboard but I don't see him chatting here. Does he use some other name?

[lime cloak]

Think he is brother of @bronze spire … he has been around for some time, and also did well in the inferno tournament 🤗

[civic grotto]

And he is not here in discord?

[turbid osprey]

Its @outer sierra

But he doesnt use discord just do his 15 games with the deck/strat @bronze spire makes and live on top of leaderboard ezpz

I cant believe they, with @summer frigate still manage to perform in the 2ks in this meta. True legends

[civic grotto]

He doesn't use discord as top player? Totally makes sense.

[civic grotto]

Yes that's truly unbelievable. It's like they are so good at working together to keep everyone from reaching the top of the leaderboard. Meanwhile, you and I @turbid osprey we chill and battle in low gold elo..

[turbid osprey]

I dont know what he does in life but i know him and web3 were (maybe guess still is) high level tft player. Now his brother is all in in ilv a very simmilar game and hes top of the field + theres money to be won. Makes a lot of sense guess just train with his brother and do his 15 games / tournaments to score money without necessarily wanting to be all in ilv. Ez opportunity for him

[eager portal]

top anime

[turbid osprey]

Gold is the new dark holo (thats what you have to tell yourself to stay sane)

[civic grotto]

Hm... I might dig deeper into this, might be fun. Something ain't right .

[turbid osprey]

Feel free to but i know it was like this long time before rewards and most tournaments were saturday in australia and web3 always was working, his brother guess was playing for him in a sense

[lilac grail]

For challenge 1. One feature that I love in board games that can give some diversity between games and there is skill in decision is the "draft".
We could imagine a draft with randoms card between all players comes add your hand deck.
You join with 8 owned illuvial, Then you draw 8 random one. pick one, give the 7 others to another player. (In board game, it can be done in a circle, but a more balanced way could be done to not let all time the same player giving his hand to the same one). (Imagine the 7wonders game).

So there would be ownership in a way, but your final combine could be in a different direction. If we see the 8 starting card for every one, we could decide to counter when choose in the draft.

I gave some numbers for exemple. could see more cards in hand, more in the draft hand, some burned etc.
Just to give different mechanic that what TFT does and that goes well with ownership.

[worn tree]

Legends would be if they actually played more then 15 game per week. I have played 100> this week and still 1900>. Imagine my wr if when I lose its -40 and when I win its +4-5-6

[turbid osprey]

Yea you are with them up there. Totally agree that 100 games and only -50/-100 is better than +-0 at this elo

In any case its incredible. Whats most incredible is keeping motivation to keep searching new teams and curves in this meta

[worn tree]

Well said brother, and thanks for the recognition ❤️

[fallen vortex]

Ohhhh yeah I think thats fair for sure hmmmm. Damn making me rethink my own idea... But I do like the idea of using Illuvials as cosmetics at a bare minimum. Gold Atlas seems like a killer flex hahah.

There is just such high risk of ownership ruining the TfT game loop, and I haven't been able to think of a way to avoid that just yet

[fallen vortex]

I played a bit of Synergy of Serra which did exactly this with shuffling assets, except in a TCG setting.

It was meant to make the game easier to understand but instead made it more confusing. You don't think we risk the same issue?

That being said this is easily the best way to incorporate ownership without ruining the gameplay, but its not really ownership if any team you bring will not impact the games outcome in the slightest

[vivid stirrup]

sounds like an awesome good gamemode, i would prefer to add that rather than replace the tft-like that is planned. i think having one game mode very close to the proven concept of tft - the autobattler market leader will be very beneficial for us in terms of onboarding and risk management

[manic rover]

I feel like this is going down the MOBA path,

Challenge 1: turn off auto targeting, add tab targeting and manual omegas so communicating becomes the center point so team positioning will still be a high priority but targeting the same enemy to build or unleash omegas on will be key. I like the idea nYlErXz had re the being about to select moves so when you get grouped you can com with team which moves to select each round to make it more personal with your illuvials other then just pasting your team on the board and hoping for the best would make it feel you have more control over the outcome

Challenge 2:
Say your rhampy rhamphyre etc each has a set of 10 talents in a tree based format (like wow class talent trees)
You can either have a rhampy and have many points to spend on tree talents or play a big rhamphyre and only have a few points to move down the tree. So your rhampy may have a sweet as utility crowd control or defense/offense move as you have many points to spend or your rhamphyre will just have a few basic DMG boosts for aoe as an example

Challenge 3, this will eventually morph into a moba muahaha

[gentle bronze]

He 100% is a real person I can confirm as he was in the Inferno tournaments and I had to talk with him to pay his earnings

Only other option is it's actually just web3gamingtv

[bronze spire]

its silly to even suggest, his not invested in ILV/doesnt care about crypto and only playing cause i showed him the game. He didnt even have his wallet properly connected the first 2 weeks lol

[bronze spire]

moba would be amazing

[zenith mortar]

I spoke to this kid at GDC today that runs a High School Esports TFT League and they have like 80+ players and he loves Illuvium. Some kids gonna come in here and woop butt soon

[granite osprey]

great

[zenith mortar]

They probably love emotes too.. 😉 @civic grotto

[civic grotto]

Great! I love em too. As long as they aren't being spammed 😁

[fallen vortex]

Hahaha thats awesome

I think if we have to benchmark price around anything. High schoolers using their parents credit card up until a point they wouldn't get caught. Is the ideal spot

🤣

[lilac grail]

Mmmmh would need to think about it differently in a 1v1 mode (A bit like clash royale with no starting deck and all in draft).

What is cool in draft with more people is that it's not a single person that gonna build the rest of the deck. but all others that gonna try to give you something you don't want to. but without knowing what others people gave already to.
Maybe it add a lot of rng range. but a playaround could be interested.

[worn tree]

+1

[worn tree]

Could you provide us feedback on which suggestions were liked by you and the team? 🙊 This way we can get a slight idea of the picture 🤝🏻

[noble radish]

Yes, just not quite yet. 🙂

[violet root]

Do traits like magma also contribute to fire counts?

[turbid osprey]

No they dont

[violet root]

It's kinda confusing that they are labelled 'Fire Dominant' 😅

[turbid osprey]

The dominant is just for Hyper mechanic purpose

[violet root]

This game is has crazy amounts of smol details to watch out for, is there an official documentation atm?

[turbid osprey]

Right now a magma (earth+fire) could either be earth dominant or fire dominant but this will change soon

[violet root]

What does Omega and Hyper do btw

[turbid osprey]

It can get quite overwhelming at the start for sure. Theres nothing official but theres great videos on youtube, look for viper and web3gamingTV

You can also join a community, people play, study and share their illuvium journey together. You can check out #1169004294473793597

Also theres the community websites that will help you a lot for things like the descriptions you are asking here. Check out IlluviData, illuvialmaster or IlluvuviHub websites

[violet root]

Thanks my man @turbid osprey will check them out 🙏

[hot pond]

Theres no better feeling than this in arena right now

[serene lance]

What you dont que up against yourself on a different pc and give yourself free wins like the rest of them?

[hot pond]

Is this what people are doing? lol

[onyx sundial]

An idea for the 8 player version - every player is randomly matched up against another for each round (4 matches simultaneously), then randomised again for the next round. You carry over your previous board setup as usual but you get (maybe 2-3) free illuvial moves or changes per round to adjust to the new team makeup of the player infront of you. Once your life points are all gone you lose and exit the on-going game until there's one player left standing. Usual rules with increased mastery points spending each round. Will require lots of strategy in small pivots to the new team infront without disrupting your overall team strategy. To combat the odd numbers as people lose - could play around with the lowest 2 health players at certain checkpoint rounds are how players are elimated. To allow for comebacks from low health - when you win a round you steal health equal to the damage given to an opponent.

[cursive echo]

People do this? It's not impossible there are so few players

[hot pond]

Its probably bannable though right? I mean sure I could use some of my smurfs which have different names and no wallet attached to push myself. But thats still kinda meh

[cursive echo]

It's time to climb👀😂

[silver merlin]

After a few matches the accounts should be too far apart to queue against each other anyway

[hot pond]

I guess you could use it for a threshold win where you jump into a different bracket in your last match or w.e.

[silver merlin]

Yeah oke

[hot pond]

But I rather get some points from others than from myself 😄

[cyan olive]

It certainly is banable, it is plain wintrading/matchfixing/cheating.

Prob „easy“ to do while few people are playing, but then somewhat obvious, as we can see eg matchistory of people on illuvialmaster

[hot pond]

Yea, otherwise it would be really dumb

[hardy minnow]

I mean, yes you will climb, you will get some temporary wins, but you will not gain any skills or proper experience, at the end of the day, it's yourself you cheated.

[cyan olive]

Wintrading is a common issue in many online games, sadly.

[cyan olive]

You cheat other people off rewards/ranks as well, very bad

[hot pond]

Are smurfs correctly considered as smurfs to not be eligible for rewards now? I have seen some where they received with multiple accounts even though they were named properly with the _2 and so on

[hardy minnow]

Yeah that too, i think it's better to learn it the hard way but have fun at the same time hehe, let's try to enjoy it guys come on! 🥰

[cyan olive]

I think some issues happened and people who got extra were then deducted from next week, that happened to me e.g.

[hot pond]

Sounds good if they sorted it out now

[cyan olive]

But outside of that yeah not eligible accounts which includes smurfs are skipped for placements

[static crane]

Good day. Where i can check info about this hit points, what is the damage dealt based on, etc. ?

[silver merlin]

I'm guessing a base number and maybe the amount of mastery points the units that are still in play? Don't know the exact numbers either

[static crane]

It is also interesting to know how much time is given for each round to make decisions, the first round is 50 seconds, and every subsequent +5 seconds or something else?

[silver merlin]

I thought it was a flat 60 everytime, didn't know it increased

[static crane]

Yep, just checked it, looks like 50 sec first round and +5 sec each next round

Also, what determines the cost of selling or moving a unit? Is this a certain percentage of the cost? Including augmentations

[hot pond]

I think its 25% of what the illuvial had cost you. Augments also 25%

[silver merlin]

Are you talking about ascendant or survival?

[arctic turtle]

It is the total cost of the mastery points of everything left on the board (ranger, illuviuls, augments) ranger is worth 70. I think that is how it works

[faint ibex]

How are the damage resistances working together? If I'll have say physical damage resistance from different sources, will they multiply or replace one another?

[turbid osprey]

@static crane 25% for selling and 15% for moving

[turbid osprey]

Mastery points left alive + flat 70 dmg for the first 4 rounds

[static crane]

Ascendant

[static crane]

Thanks Patate ❤️ You are greatest

[wicked cloak]

there is a base number for winning a round, and then you also add on the mastery points that survived, i think base dmg is maybe 70?

[dark scaffold]

recently he even is helping with closing support tickets without even knowing it ^^ GG @turbid osprey

[hot pond]

I just had a match where the rounds didnt start for me. I just could restart the game to see the outcome of the round. Wasnt able to report a bug or anything because I was busy restarting and quickly positioning my units 😄

[static crane]

Yep, looks like, Patate said 70 also

[static crane]

True Community Helper

[vernal forum]

True - ish... it's 70 base points for rounds 1-4 and then 10 points for all subsequent rounds. ty @cyan olive

[cyan olive]

It is 10 for subsequent

[wicked cloak]

Okay that makes a lot more sense, I said 70 but I’ve also survived rounds that I started on 50 health😂

[wicked cloak]

What week will this next snapshot be?

[worn tree]

Nandato korewà?

[turbid osprey]

9 i believe

[lime cloak]

would it be worth considering paying out all the remaining arena rewards as a "one time" after the last arena reward week has completed. (which I assume will be soon, or maybe even imminent)... mainly to save some gas fees. I think most people who are eligible for rewards would not mind waiting a bit longer to receive it... and there would be a fairly big number of people who would be receiving rewards for multiple weeks 🤔

[woven flint]

agree, or even best wait to be able to send it to imx and send them all at once once ready !

[lime cloak]

yes, even better if we are ready to use imx.

[turbid osprey]

Agree, L2 payment should be ready very soon

[pastel rampart]

Challenge 1: what if each player brings [x] illuvials. 25% of those (selected randomly) stay in their hand and the rest are shuffled into a common pot where each player draws to complete their team (random like poker).
This way, players keep part of the team they initially brought without knowing which illuvial they'll end up retaining, this incentivises them to not bring a very weak roster. But if the % of cards retained is low enough, good FTP players still have a very decent chance to win.

Challenge 2: maybe each illuvial gains pre-determined augments as they rank up. Or players can chose within a pre-selected list of augments that typically go with such or such illuvial (the list would not necessarily be the same for Atlas compared to Axodon).

Totally unrelated: Has there been any thinking around a hyper casual variation of the 1v1 arena?
I would certainly love to try an over-simplified mode that only retains the concept of hyper (no class or affinity related synergy boosts) and with complete freedom to build a team (i.e. if I want to play a team of 5 scoriox that I own, I can).
Could add an entry point for people who are not necessarily willing or able to spend time learning all the intricacies of competitive arena (at least at the start of their journey maybe). Just an idea of course. Am sure you guys thought about all possible permutations and priorities 🙂

[static crane]

One more thing please, can someone tell me or give me a link about overtime - how it works, what is the overtime damage based on, how does it change depending on the presence of illuvials on the table, etc

[twilit storm]

@static crane I think flat dmg divided by the number of units alive

[static crane]

Thanks, i hope anyone can confirm it

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/hope-gif-19238353

[west quartz]

it's 5% of max health pure damage per player, split among every unit they have on the board. increasing by 5% additional mal health pure damage each second

so if you have 5 unit on the board while your opponent has 10 (taking weird numbers for the sake of example), each of your unit will take 1% max health damage the first sec, then 2%, then 3% (assuming none of your unit died yet) while the opponent will take 0,5%, 1%, 1,5%

if let's say after 10 secs 4 of your units died while none of the oppponent's units died, your last unit will take 50% max health damage, while his units will take 5%%

and it passes through shield

so to win overtime you want more units than your opponent, and heals

[static crane]

Big thanks Style ❤️ Clear and informative

[static crane]

Legendary film

[west quartz]

np

[spare frigate]

yeah so this idea is coming out from the left field..

I think a cool idea would be able to control your illuvials on the battle board whilst in battle..
Give the player the opportunity to change the direction of attack of an illuvial mid battle. It would make the game more exciting for viewers with the players becoming more involved during battle, adding an extra layer of skill to the game & mixing up the results of certain match ups.

Unsure how this completely work but my thoughts would be someting along the lines of..
After a certain round you can start changing the attacking directions of illuvials mid battle - click on the illuvial, then click on the opposing illuvial you want to attack. There could be a certain limit on how many times you can make such a move with the limit increasing after each round.

With this concept you would be making the game less auto and more of just chess battler type of game, differentiating the game to common gamestyles of underlords/ TFT

[mental gazelle]

plz give me idia about surv what i go ?

why if play agien rest score ? waave

[inner orbit]

Hey guys does this following week still has rewards or is this one the last one before they're pausing them?

[warm rivet]

yo when is the snapshot exactly ?

[wicked cloak]

34 mins

[steep linden]

I can get 25 games in right?

[wicked cloak]

in 34 mins?

[steep linden]

Kol

Lol

[warm rivet]

fck me i need to get another 4 games

in that time

xD

[wicked cloak]

yeah thats not likley

[inner orbit]

You could get those 4 games if you find someone quick and insta lose but maybe is just not worth it

[warm rivet]

wait no its in 1 hour and 32 min

[steep linden]

So sounds like some changes are inbound. Is there at least another few rounds before the changes?

[warm rivet]

im thinking 2 more week but we dont know

[static crane]

Good day
You can check my streams, I'm playing Survival mode every day - https://www.twitch.tv/b414nce/videos
Feel free to ask me anything

[steep linden]

and those that know are not talking, I see, I see...

I still need to get my 25 ranked in. Who can I play, that's not real good?

[fallen vortex]

Like the game wasn't hard enough lol 🤣

[warm rivet]

you only need 15 games if youve played your first 25 btw

[spare frigate]

lol.
You think it would make it that much harder..? Would definetly need to be on your toes during the battle if you want to have any chance to defeat the OP team your vsing xD. It could feel very similar to dota/ LOL gameplay where you gotta be crazy accurate in your targeting during team battles.

what about if you could click the direction of attack after placing illuvials after round 1? If your illuvial becomes focused by the opposition.. game could send a warning signal to the player, giving them the chance to possibly counter it with thier option of targeting.

Random thoughts, random ideas
Some may stick, others may fail.
Ones that fail, turn in to new ideas without the flaws
While the ones that stick get stronger as time goes on

[fallen vortex]

Look, I am a big RTS fan, Love Starcraft to bits. But ultimately I think what u r talking about is a brand new game. There's a large group of people that enjoy an 'auto' battler for a variety of reasons. Being from Aus I tend to have high ping in a lot of games. You are essentially going from a game that doesn't rely on PC specs or connection speeds into one that does, which is a pretty major change hahah

I like the idea, just needs to be its own thing imo

[spare frigate]

valid point

[fallen vortex]

Also these sorts of changes would require them to rip out the entire engine. Its built off the idea of calculating a battle as soon as the round starts. Not sure how feasible it is technically speaking unfortunately.

But as a compromise I can see the idea of adding 'actions' before the round commences. Maybe u even do it through Augments. For example 'The omega now targets the furthest enemy' or 'This illuvial now targets the enemy with the lowest physical resistance'.

Without changing the fundamental gameplay this does add a whole lot of new decision space that changes from game to game and would be great

[spare frigate]

so what your saying is your unable to implement a possible "clickable targeting system" (before round the starts) within the current built engine of the game? That would be a shame because i was going to suggest an augment - "Teleport and attack any enemy unit" xD

[civic grotto]

If you take a look at Illuvialmaster, some of top arena players have match history that could be considered.. well shady to say the least. Tell me, if you queue up into the guy that beats you once, twice.. you probably give up and wait for some time to be matched up against other opponent.

But not Gayser guy.

Gayser is either low IQ player that climbed up to be matched against top player and refuses to give up, and keeps trying

or he is smurf created by the same guy, climbed up just to feed himself elo, so he avoids risking being matched against some other opponent

A true legend as @turbid osprey would say

screenshot was taken few days ago

[worn tree]

I have said many times that ranked players who want rewards should KYC

I hope the team realizes this

[fallen vortex]

I mean maybe before the round starts. I just don't know if theres a viable solution for any sort of clicking DURING the autobattle

[civic grotto]

Compare your match history with his. Yours looks completely different, you see all kinds of players, you grind, risk a lot by playing against way lower elo. And then this guy takes rewards just playing against one opponent, sketchy af.

[steep linden]

Have not played ranked yet. But I am feeling it now.

[safe valve]

But he's super smart, he lost 1 time. So no Chance it's his smurf lol

[granite osprey]

you can do this to use 2PC.

I tried virtual OS.But ,Need Virtual GPU,so I gave up.

Use 2PC,And use brother's account.matching same time!

[twilit storm]

All these bshits regarding grinding matches for money are unreal..just get back to our beloved game and no prizes for ladder..stop rewarding ladder addicted players...and re enable tournament sponsoring...much more fun..like the good old times

[cursive echo]

Impossible to have so many victories with this meta or a lot of luck🍀

[cursive echo]

No, it motivates me, the rewards, I no longer play because of the meta...

[civic grotto]

We all know what is going on in here. Question is, what is team gonna do about it.

[olive hedge]

i dont, what is happening?

[woven flint]

Yep ...
When I remember us behing bored because of the phosphorus meta ....
It was less painfull than this one !

[twilit storm]

tournaments were much more fun and the @fallen vortex @gentle bronze duet was one of a kind show..miss that

[cursive echo]

This the best moment of the beta ♥️🍾🕹️

[twilit storm]

what u mean @cursive echo?

playing 15 games a week and then stop coz scared to lose rank?

[cursive echo]

The meta arcanite phosphorus bloom this the best moment of arena

[twilit storm]

ahh okok

even the @lilac grail Umbre smashing an entire enemy team alone was an epic moment eh

[cursive echo]

Magnificent umbre harbinger only good memories

[fallen vortex]

Oh they will be back for sure. Kinda waiting on the big update tho

[mental gazelle]

what is this time challenge daily in survivor ???

[worldly jolt]

I do not understand what you are asking.

[mental gazelle]

about time daily challenge in survivor mode what is that ?"

[worldly jolt]

Survival mode is a simple game mode. You are given a deck. You try to last as many waves as possible.

Everyone that plays survival mode in the same 24hour period (00:00utc reset) uses the same deck. Beat more waves and defeat more illuvials to place higher on the leaderboard. The time on the side of each account on the leaderboard is just indicating how long was take to plan and play the turns between the waves.

Survival is just for fun or training at the moment.

[mental gazelle]

thank you so much

[warm rivet]

Woooow this is so bannable? There is no way this is legit….

[west quartz]

slashin top damage dealer LMFAO

[grand bluff]

Arena is quiet right now 😦

[grand bluff]

Lies!

[eager portal]

well at least it's something

[west quartz]

how about : we can only bring illuvials (ownership), but the shop/carrousel is augments/weapon/ranger suit
And for stages, say at stage 1 you can only use stage 1 illuvials, at stage 2 you can add stage 2 illuvials, stage 3 you can throw in the big boys

This way you can't force play the same comp every time because if you don't get the proper ranger weapon or augment you're fcked, and you have to think of multiple playable comps while team building, assuming you might never get the proper ranger synergy

[noble radish]

Tomorrow when I'm done with what I'm working on I'll give the skinny on what we plan to do and you guy all yell and abuse me.

[west quartz]

any feedback on the above ? just back read and gave it on the top of my head but i can probably dig deeper if you have inputs

[noble radish]

I do, but at this stage it's just easier to go through what I'm thinking in relation to it all.

[west quartz]

fair enough

[west quartz]

quick question while you're here since i'm pretty sure many people will ask in chat throughout the week, the upcoming week that started a few hours ago, arena rewards will still be running, or will they be cut before the end of week ?

[worn tree]

I would agree sir. But it is what it is! I hope the team implements solutions to ensure (not just hope) for fairplay.

[hot pond]

Meanwhile, another good day beating this guy who copied my deck for literally every single card 😄

[green helm]

We already know when they are going to stop giving rewards for the leaderbord?

[cursive echo]

Send your team link👀

[hot pond]

@worn tree Dude I almost freaked out when you survived with 5hp there. GG

[worn tree]

gg brother!

[cursive echo]

This is not solid proof, we cannot accuse him of cheating👮

[civic grotto]

It all comes down if the team is willing to investigate this. The only resource we have is match history and it looks pretty shady. There are multiple accounts like "Rank 2" and several more that were renamed and cannot be tracked anymore. My opinion is that the owner of those accounts is the same guy. This has been happening for weeks.

[proven coral]

https://tenor.com/view/the-interview-james-franco-david-skylark-same-but-different-but-still-same-gif-4956158

[warm rivet]

Mabey not but good enough for investigation?!

[civic grotto]

100% good enough. You know what's also funny? We don't hear from him at all. If someone was calling me out as a potential cheater I would say something for my defense-c'mon feel free to investigate and use every possible tool, you will see that I'm innocent. That's what normal non guilty person would do. But then again it's the emote spammer we are talking about afterall. He is probably talking with his Hype lawyers atm..

[proven coral]

https://tenor.com/view/they-found-us-michael-bell-professor-mullaney-gi-joe-a-real-american-hero-theres-no-place-like-springfield-gif-17530126

[gentle bronze]

I am an emote spammer and I don't cheat the leaderboard

some of us are good people

[silver merlin]

Can you mute emotes?

[cursive echo]

it's true, I find it strange that people don't like emotes, I find it fun

don't forget that we're just playing a video game

[gentle bronze]

I like spamming the heart so people know I love them

whats so wrong about that?

[silver merlin]

They should implement a mute function tho, some people have no patience. I already get death threats in hearthstone, let alone when money will be on the line

[calm steeple]

I'm personally like emotes, but what annoys the bejeebus out of me when someone knows he is about to win the match and spams the sh!t out of the monkey emote, it sounds like someone is torturing the chimp irl First time someone did it to me I couldn't figure out what is going on and what is this sound, thought maybe game bugged out sounds wise, his drone was off screen and I didn't actually see the emotes.

[cyan olive]

emote spammer, graves q....

[cursive echo]

I just want to send a heart at the start of the game to the player I like 🫂

[silver merlin]

Coudve been me lol

[safe valve]

So you don't use the heart emote at all?

[cursive echo]

haha never just for @cyan olive but he doesn't like it and @turbid osprey ❤️

[cyan olive]

https://tenor.com/view/graves-leagueoflegends-gif-19749764

[cursive echo]

maybe with the future much more fun emotes it will change

[cyan olive]

if that could be an emote, I´d use it

[gentle bronze]

That is a ridiculous amount of dmg from the graves tbf

[cyan olive]

but my emotes wouldn´t be 12 or younger friendly

[cyan olive]

it is lv 13 vs 9, prob 3 items vs 1

or 4 vs 1

[gentle bronze]

Oh I didnt even see that wtf

he didnt even get to play the game

[cursive echo]

when the arena update that I can finally play again climbed in its rankings is you smashing ! @noble radish

gamemode based on community / team liquid!!! @cyan olive

[regal hound]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-hammer-yoshi-mario-discord-gif-12444703281338986867

[cursive echo]

the famous high level players so people who are bad at illuvium but professionals at the same type of games

[worn tree]

To those members of the game design team saying rha had 5 decks that consistently won against it. Let me say it again, you were wrong. There is not a single deck that consistently wins vs Rha.

And also, I encourage you to check how many decks do not bring rha in their team. Must be less than 10%.

What's more, the energy constant change, inferno buff, and rat line buff were extremely poor balance choices. This is serious to the point that the only thing that has me concerned for arena's success is the team's capacity to properly balance the game.

Legendary augments are unbalanced, meta has never been in a reasonably balanced state and this last patch was a death sentence for the playerbase.

While there have been very good changes and the overall IP direction is looking extremely promising, I send a message to the team here to be very careful how they balance the game from now on, specially as open beta comes up and we are being judged by the broader public. Proper balancing is a make or break deal for games and Illuvium still has a lot to demonstrate in this regard.

I am not a game design professional and I am 100% sure I could have done a better job with some of the balance patches. It is also true that I have played the game a shit lot of time and I have very deep understanding, but so should everyone balancing the game have.

And no, the excuse that "balancing has not been our priority" is not enough to justify how utterly bad the last patch was. If you did it on purpose to see rha and rat line performance and we are just being lab rats, I rather you tell us, because this has me sincerely worried.

Sorry to be tough, but I want this to be addressed for the best of the project.

With all of this being said, I am sure this will be managed and Illuvium will be a fucking success.

[summer frigate]

Many players have numerous games against the same opponent, especially in higher elo, particularly if you’re above 1,900 and que for a maximum of one minute.

Hopefully with the introduction of the new game mode we have more players playing the game.

[civic grotto]

There is not a single person in higher ELO that wants to risk more than 2-3 losses against same person. And yet that guy was persistent on playing vs you. Hopefully team will investigate and do the right thing.

Your defense is weak af btw. 😅

You already know you are fucked, I can smell your fear 😂

[worn tree]

https://tenor.com/view/huggies-pullup-pampers-nappies-gif-11412720

I can smell other type of stuff....

[gentle bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-going-on-the-office-jim-what-is-going-on-wtf-gif-3926604

[junior geyser]

just spam emotes

[uncut comet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/791148476218081321/1002679533016719420/5a6bb11a-51fa-45a1-ab55-c9e830452758.gif

[umbral citrus]

Is there a list of players who received awards?

[teal panther]

It's pinned on the channel, but only til week 5 atm

[hot pond]

@worn tree GGs mate

[worn tree]

ggs!!! 🤝🏻🤝🏻

[cursive echo]

you always enjoy playing but what deck do you play?? @worn tree @hot pond

[hot pond]

Rats and rhamphyre. There’s no other choice

[twilit storm]

amazing..hundreds of illuviials...one team since patch..gegee

[junior geyser]

PB4 bigger picture

[worn tree]

tbh, I don't enjoy playing anymore, but i recognize when my opponent played well

I will aim for a top 10 place and I will go play TFT until new game mode. Can't stand this shitty meta anymore.

[vernal forum]

What you say is true. I am also worried about this and believe mistakes were made. Don’t think it matters if it was intentional or unintentional. I’d like to see this improved moving forward. Game is unplayable for me.

[hot pond]

If you compare it to TCGs like yugioh, there were also phases with a Tier 0 format where you need to play the one deck period. Eventually this will get better and I believe in the team and in the games‘ success going forward 👊

[worn tree]

🤝

[hot pond]

The smartass dude seems to play all day lol. I keep getting into him whether it’s in the morning or evening

[turbid osprey]

Same i often will play like 2-3 games before work and couple later at night at much different time but i always face him ahah

its fine he boost me

My 2 pleasure in this game is when my opponent gives me inferno chip and beating this guy

[cyan olive]

every game has tier 0 formats every now and then

it is crazy to me how unreasonable some of the comments here are when we play a beta to test stuff in a mode that will be changed a lot 100% very soon anyways

then again I have seen reddit in my HS times, when silver players would know more about the game then me apparently...

[worn tree]

Same, and he is crazy lol. I tend to beat him so one day he added me and started hoping I got cancer and stuff 🤣🤣🤣 instablocked

[hot pond]

Oh wow. Didn’t expect it to be that bad

[worn tree]

Yeah yeah, pretty bad. Reminded me of my LoL days when people was toxic af

[west plume]

Sorry.

[twilit storm]

yeah...sorry

[west plume]

damn

you win

[twilit storm]

mhh seems so ye

[west plume]

you shouldent do that to people

[twilit storm]

I felt guilty tbh

[worn tree]

What the actual fuck

[twilit storm]

prolly 2nd or third game for him..he was silver 1 before the match

[serene lance]

Not surprising, this is xborg we are talking about afterall, they're a bunch of sooks going through a midlife crisis lol

[turbid osprey]

Xborg disbanned

After 1 year they realized their guild consisted of 2 players, the 2 most hated and toxic

[serene lance]

hahaha really?

[turbid osprey]

Yea

[serene lance]

thats hilarious

was thinking i hadnt seen their names around lately, there'd be some very hurt egos

also zadkeil was with them too, perhaps he fits their description, makes his situation sus

[cursive echo]

they are good players always present in the top 5 of tournaments sjud smart ass miss you !

[worn tree]

Either you are an alt, or you are just a toady.

You are just fanboying the shit out of the most disrespectful players in the entire community xd

If you ain't an alt, bad taste, ey?

[cursive echo]

no but I like having talented people on illuvium to progress

[worn tree]

Hahahahhaa pretty accurate tbf, can't imagine adding a guy and insulting him just because he is winning me. Congratulate the man and move on.

Some personalities in the community full of themselves will go and say "unfortunate" or "coinflip unlucky" every time they lose xd

[cursive echo]

Afterwards I don't care about the comments I just like difficult duels

[worn tree]

If you want a talented and fairplay player that puts out content, is elegant and knows how to win and lose in a honorable way, go check WEB3GamingTV. He's got true essence of a winner, not these proud wannabes that talk about the past.

[cursive echo]

but I like @bronze spire

[worn tree]

Good, thats a nice step

[cursive echo]

I don't watch it's a video but I like the confrontation, this often epic

[worn tree]

Great dude, I like your learning attitude. ❤️

[turbid osprey]

Zadkiel got there by accident he didnt know anything else at first. He quit them real quick to join Hyperion

And honestly i highly doubt its win trade. If you look at gayser he also faced crab23 10 games in a row, all those players play in the less active timezone and if you are 1700+ and keep queue low im sure you cant face more than 2 different players in your 3h session

Playing in most active timezone i never faced any of the players mentionned above

[summer frigate]

Even in the most active time zones, people still play six or more games against the same player. For instance, when Smartass achieved rank 1, he won seven games in a row against the same player, and if I'm not mistaken he only played against two different players that week. There are many examples but I'm not wasting time arguing.

[twilit storm]

same happened to me today...7 matches..same oppo, could be something related to play again and not going back to main screen then click play ranked?

like a sort of prioritizing previous opponent for the next match if he is in search game too?

[cursive echo]

I believe in you I see you in tournaments you don't need to cheat to win

[cursive echo]

ok I'm going to start training on tft

[edgy bough]

WEN next tournaments? Haven’t heard any updates on the Team Liquid $140K tournament in a minute

[serene lance]

Surely they wont run that tourney until arena is finished and in a good state

[edgy bough]

For sure

[alpine dagger]

Train dota ubderlords, train mobile legends autochess, tft is worst autobattler ever

[alpine dagger]

Bad decision making 😄

Tft is just very bad rip off of a dofa underlords

[calm steeple]

cant say if you are sarcastic or not

[hot pond]

When is the most active timezone you guys are talking about anyway?

[west quartz]

wait isn't crab23 zadkiel smurf ?

always thought crab was zadkiel lmao

[hot pond]

I thought so too haha

[bronze spire]

the opposite of right now lol

[hot pond]

So starting 12 hours from now?

[bronze spire]

yea i assume so give or take

where are you from?

[hot pond]

I am from Europe. That would be my evening then. Should be also most active from my region during that time

I literally just woke up now at 6 am haha

[bronze spire]

yea right now its aussie and asia i think

[west quartz]

yeah our evenning like 18:00-22:00 is usually the most active time

[bronze spire]

its 1-2am in the US

[hot pond]

Smartass is there no matter the timezone. Where is he from anyway? Haha

[bronze spire]

that guy needs help

[hot pond]

Which is why I only played you literally once. I never find you lol

[bronze spire]

i can dm when i que? i only have 5 games left

not sure when i can next play though

[hot pond]

I don’t know whether that’s a good idea. Apparently this can also cause issues if you make those appointments

[bronze spire]

hmm yea good call

[west quartz]

europe too

[hot pond]

Yep, must be it feels like

[west quartz]

doubt it

win trading or facing one of your smurf is bannable

but as long as you play it fair wioth the intent to win what's the harm in trying to face high elo opponents

[bronze spire]

surely saying hey im queing in a public chat is fine

[bronze spire]

youv done your 15 too havent you

[west quartz]

yup

[hot pond]

I don’t know, hard to draw the line there

[west quartz]

and i am not opening the game again before patch or next thursday lol

[bronze spire]

hopefully soon

[serene lance]

Underlords got abandoned like 3 years ago

Is there actually a good alternative to tft right now?

[alpine dagger]

Illuvium arena 😄

Underlords wont have any patches for next 7 years, bcz they lost dota2 players base due to enormous popularity of underlords,it was best of the kind, i enjoyed it on custom maps, before launch of any autochess battler game invidualy

Tft was always cra..p

I like mobile legends autochess mode, in arcade, it is very similar to underlords rather than tft

[west plume]

Just want to say I really appreciate your videos, have learned alot

[serene lance]

soon

i also really liked underlords but yeah its abandoned

this new set of tft seems a bit too crazy and fast tbh, i feel like i have no time to actually think and do things with all the different elements going on lol

[alpine dagger]

Bro i reached highest possible rating on underlords, and they put announcement that they will stop updating for next 10 y 😄

[bronze spire]

thank you!

[serene lance]

has anyone played backpack battles? xD
its a pvp autobattler about choosing and organising items in your inventory slots lol, one of the top played auto battlers on steam right now

[bronze spire]

never heard of it, is it new?

[serene lance]

few weeks yeah

[bronze spire]

round robin or 1v1?

[alpine dagger]

Go play heroes of might and magic , then play HOM autochess 😄

[serene lance]

I have thousands of hours accross the HoMM games

they have an auto chess game lol ?

[alpine dagger]

Yes i tried it out few years ago, it was on Epic game launcher

[alpine dagger]

Who would know

Except for me ofc

True homm fan 😄

[serene lance]

i think its like the pet one, where you 1v1 then move on if win

[alpine dagger]

Try out homm autochess for sure 😄

[serene lance]

im youtubing it now

[alpine dagger]

Not sure if game bloom or die 😄

[serene lance]

oh you talking about Heroes Hour ?

very pixelated 😛

[alpine dagger]

No wait let me check

No ,lol

Wiat ill show you

Oh its out for ios and android , wow, type might & magic chess royale

[alpine dagger]

How foes it seem, not much of impact it recieved,since underlords and tft were way 2 mainstreami

But i think its a gem for those homm lovers

At least to try out

[serene lance]

Shut down as of march 2023

looked kinda bad anyway xD

[alpine dagger]

It was early stage , and ot couldnt bloom bcz of tft underlords mainstream and huge player base due to main moba types

When underlords said no more patch for 10 years, and tft eas trash always, i was like,ok time to find something new, and there comes Illuvium arena 😄

[edgy flower]

Ahahah, your description is hilarious for me, coz few month ago in my dictatorship was an incident, where famous people visit "almost naked party" and some1 from the government saw this and decided to punish every participant, because "how can you act like this, while Russia is fighting against the whole world". And most of the famous people create the videos where they dressed very conservative and they are deeply apologize for what they did, and one of them was a singer, he used phrases like "everyone in their lives had this moment, when you enter the wrong door". It became a mem and I can't unsee it in your message about zadkiel xd

[alpine dagger]

We are waiting for 3x weekly rewards, seems a little bit off 😄

Why doesnt arena leaderboard rewards get any kind of attention, i feel ripped off 😄

[serene lance]

Because the layer 1 gas fees cost more than the rewards at the moment 😆

[split egret]

Hey guys I just need some friends to play custom game trying to find out new meta teams if anyone up we can play together

[elder ore]

I have some time 🙂

[solemn hill]

when is the day for leaderboard reset?

[hardy minnow]

<t:1711584000:R>

[solemn hill]

thanks but what day and what time is the start for new season?

[silver merlin]

New season?

[hardy minnow]

Not sure if it's season, but a weekly snapshot of rankings for weekly rewards, current ELO do not reset yet.

[alpine dagger]

Go to events

March 28....1am Thursday for my current time zone

@hot pond ty for games , i enjoyed it

Btw

[hot pond]

Are you RJ? @alpine dagger

[alpine dagger]

Sure i am

[hot pond]

GGs mate. Your volante was godlike 😂
Silenced me twice in the most clutch situations

[alpine dagger]

I rly take care of him

My boi is positioned so well

[hot pond]

I need to catch a good one in Overworld soon

[alpine dagger]

Dont hunt it, adopt it 😄

Dont use Sword in rogue meta, aint useful as slashing jumping executing all over board beast ranger

Gl furthermore

[hot pond]

Idk both seem viable to me

Thanks, Gl to you too

[hardy minnow]

I know the snapshot sched bro, I'm just explaining to Ogalu 🙂

[alpine dagger]

Sry i tagged wrong one : 😬

[hot pond]

@worn tree GGs again. I for sure thought the 3 spores would win it there for me

[worn tree]

3 spore is good, but not great 😄

gg fella

[hot pond]

Yea. Kinda expected a little more of it

[alpine dagger]

@eager portal wp, thanks for games, i would play more but need to go to dentist 😄 you are tough enemy as hell

[eager portal]

thank you, I'm sweating)

[alpine dagger]

I came back, we can have few more if u wish to practice

[eager portal]

next time for sure, I have to run errands)

[serene lance]

If the new gamemode and future gamemodes are popular will they have rewards and tourneys? Or is just 1v1 gonna be the ‘esport’ ?

[turbid osprey]

The new game mode is replacement for what we have now so yes its going to be the esport format. When multiplayer comes and maybe other mode i guess the popularity and competitiveness of those format will determine which one is the main esport and if theres a split between rewards or just all in on the main mode

[fallen vortex]

This guy called Dictation keeps matching up against me and not making any moves 😦

[ocean junco]

I saw the video of viper regarding the possible arena changes.

I think the part where hyper is going to be really relevant is what we need right now.
As for the team builder and augments, I think the game will be like the current state because it's a team building game (without much arbitrary factor). Issues with the current will arise on the new flow. Well, just my few cents 🙂

[edgy bough]

https://tenor.com/view/mrg-summerheightshigh-deal-witi-it-fail-jokes-gif-12825092

[fallen vortex]

Its okay I lost some games later in the day, to those damn rats

sigh, cbf

[fallen vortex]

I think viper discussed it, but players being forced to build up their team over time will be relevant

[serene lance]

Oh the 8 player mode is replacing 1v1? 1v1 wont be a thing anymore?

[pastel estuary]

#📣〕announcements message what happened to the emote airdrop?

[worldly jolt]

Good memory. Maybe @zenith mortar knows.

Probably imminent.

[fallen vortex]

No 1v1 is being updated by end of March. With a gigantic overhaul. 8 player ffa is a new mode and will be alongisde later on

[serene lance]

Thats what i thought

Maybe Patate is confused.

So yeah I wonder if the 1v1 or 8 player ffa will both have rewards or if it will be heavier towards one, popularity might be the deciding factor. Im excited for the ffa mode.

Maybe we get a little teaser trailer of ffa mode showing some elements of how it works when they get deeper into development.

[zenith mortar]

All the collections are being made/tested so we can start dropping them closer to open beta.

[turbid osprey]

When i say new game mode im talking about the 1v1 coming soon

[sand fable]

Hope they ll eventually build a coop one. Many peeps play auto chess as team of 2

[hidden jay]

I can see a lot of people having fun with a 2 v 2 mode

[sand fable]

I think most of the casual player with friends are using this mode.

[serene lance]

Ah i see, nah i meant the entirely new gamemode

[serene lance]

Think your username needs an update mate

[sand fable]

Let's have first good FFA and it should be possible to alter it for coop

[hidden jay]

why what happened to his name?

[serene lance]

Hetbonhe reply to this if you're a cute silly billy!

[sand fable]

I see dead people 🙈

[edgy flower]

Don't you think they just don't have illuvium players now? It was a large guild, and I don't think they don't exist anymore

[turbid osprey]

Ilv was 0.00002% of what they do but the 0.000002% still managed to tarnish the reputation

At least for ilv community

[hot pond]

@worn tree GGs again mate, I guess we're pretty equal right now haha

I am going out for lunch now

[worn tree]

Yeah! hahahahaha

enjoy ur meal dude

GGs!

[sand fable]

i missed a boat ? tbh not following closely

[turbid osprey]

xborg disbanned their ilv team of 2 players (sjud/smartass)(2 most hated players)

[sand fable]

not having their tag in my name for ILV promotion. But for their whole eco in general (which is quite impressive already)

[fierce abyss]

@turbid osprey @bronze spire @next flame
Can anyone invite me back to the hype server I changed discords.

Changed discord accounts I should say, the other account was my brothers. I was just using it

[turbid osprey]

Hey ghost, check in #1169004294473793597 for the invite link, not allowed to post here

[fierce abyss]

Thanks heaps, sorry forgot they were there 😂

[west quartz]

since when was smartass the most hated player ?

[green helm]

Is there any way to transfer ILV to another wallet without it charging me so much?

[turbid osprey]

I would say 2 years give or take 😄

I mean the guy is banned everywhere and the few people that didnt block him yet he dms them death treats and all sort of insult anytime he lose

[cursive echo]

he brings a lot of contradiction into the arena, I find him relevant in these opinions (arena), after the personal attacks I don't care

[worldly jolt]

No. Using ethereum network is expensive

[cyan olive]

I think it became bad once he started to hang out with sjud

I think he is mostly funny though, just keeps saying over the top stuff

[cursive echo]

personally it makes me laugh too (but I understand that it may displease)

[cyan olive]

he could make a Dantes/tarzaned like streaming carrer

[cyan olive]

yeah not everyone´s humor

[cursive echo]

if he starts a stream I will subscribe 🤣

[tight panther]

Morning - am noob - will be alot most likely. hi.

[tight panther]

Morning viper (kryptocolleges) from x - thats my company lul

[edgy flower]

I will make twitch ban him 🙂

[cyan olive]

gm

[turbid osprey]

Hes probably already banned lol

[cyan olive]

nah, many streamers say same level stuff + ingame afterwards, noone is getting banned for that

as long as you make twitch money, they might not partner you or so, but they don´t care much outside of that

or stream on rumble/kick, they let you do pretty much w.e. as far as I understand

[solemn hill]

How many rank games do i need to qualify for the weekly reward???

[inner orbit]

If your account is new then you would need 25 games total, otherwise if you have already played 25 in the past then it would be 15 games within the week

[solemn hill]

Thanks a lot

[scarlet spindle]

be patient and wait til gas is low to get your best price on transaction fee. Gas in the 20s is probably the lowest you'll find.

https://etherscan.io/gastracker

[cursive echo]

I feed them I lost 5 times in a row....

[winter marlin]

How do I control the robot to move in game

[granite osprey]

still 0.12ilv rewards

[worldly jolt]

Control Click

[clear hinge]

Maybe, to control character is little bit good.

Otherwise, we continue to do mirror battle.

Click target and then aim enemy.

[winter marlin]

What is the effect of Indomitable?

[split egret]

Will not die

[winter marlin]

OK THX

[eager portal]

ThanatosGM gg you play cool

[lone osprey]

Thank you for the match

[unkempt cypress]

How will the new game mode with augments changes be played once OB is life and we need to craft augments ourself?

[cursive echo]

do you ever sleep? haha

[cursive echo]

GG 🙂

[green helm]

Until when are they going to give rewards for playing?

[worldly jolt]

Indefinitely

Long time

No end in sight or planned

[turbid osprey]

Until new game mode in hopefully couple weeks. Once new game mode is out they will pause rewards for first couple weeks

[worldly jolt]

Interesting

[cursive echo]

I hope this is the last week I can't wait anymore

[zenith mortar]

Something like this is likely the case

Pause rewards for testing new mode

[safe valve]

Why pause it?

[hot pond]

GG man. Thanks

[worn tree]

Good question

[edgy flower]

4 days till we will play inferno for a month 😦

[worn tree]

Yup

[obtuse imp]

is there any plan to share de list for the weeks 6th 7th... etc?

[warm rivet]

Well guess what the annoying OP 5 cheap bulwarks is gone, which is good 😂

[warm rivet]

By pausing rewards we can more easily try new teams without punish from looking rewards

[worn tree]

This only makes sense as long as they hard reset elo again once rewards get reactivated. Otherwise people will grind in anticipation of rewards.

[alpine dagger]

I think that it is said, that we have reward arena leaderboard till end of march, so this is probably last week of rewards before update of arena

Then we will probably have 2 weeks of testing without rewards, which i dont agree with, it would be lit to practice and compete and adapt while struggling to earn some Juicy rewards rather than having rewards paused bcz ppl would cry and complain when they dont preform well 😄

[turbid osprey]

I get that with a new mode they dont "need" to pay us to play as its new but i still think keeping the rewards on would incentivize current players and new comers to play more and try harder which would also result in better testing and feedback

What do you guys think about pausing rewards for the new game mode?

✅ agree with pausing

❌ dont agree with pausing

[hot pond]

How many week rewards are still in the queue to be paid out?

[worn tree]

I agree if and only if they hard reset again right before reactivating them, otherwise there is no point.

Since I assume the DAO will take this into consideration, Ima vote in favour. I favour this as I see how it would be beneficial for the feedback to allow players to test and explore the new gameplay mechanics without ranking preocupation.

[turbid osprey]

Im fairly certain they would. And why are you in favor if they reset after?

[worn tree]

Just edited above 🙂

[alpine dagger]

We have 2 unpaid weeks behind us, we are in 3rd rn if i am not wrong

I have been paid for week 6, so there is only 1 week unpaid currently, and we are probably in last week that will trigger rewards

[spare frigate]

if somebody wrote something in feedback putting a hold on rewards, then gathered enough support for a IIP to be drafted, Rewards could be paused by the DAO - got some good numbered ticks so far xD

Rewards is something i feel has been "bugged" creating incosistancy, it may have been a wee bit rushed IMO..

with the new game mode coming out.. would/should there be a hard reset on rankings..?

[cyan olive]

Aaron said they are looking at rating reset and pausing rewards, if I remember correctly.

[spare frigate]

[steep linden]

Is there any meta where an illuvial is immune to blind?

[turbid osprey]

Before going into idea/feedback i wanted to have a discussion here with you guys and do a little poll. Most agree with the pause and i can see both sides of the coin here. I wont push this any further but once we have the new game mode ill keep an eye out on comminity sentiment about this and make sure that once the initial goal is fulfilled we start back the rewards and not forgot about it and have big delays to end up waiting OB

[turbid osprey]

Hey Zevlin, i wouldnt call it a meta but theres this one augment "temporal safeguard" that gives your illuvial immune for a couple seconds when he omega

Immune makes your invulnerable to debuff effects such as the blind. The blind effect is not important enough to counter in this meta, on the other hand the reduced omega power from dust is super OP and every deck carries the temporal safefuard to put on your carry (rhamphyre or gyro) so that when they start their omega they are immune to the omega power reduction during the couple seconds until they omega

[cyan olive]

truesight also makes your illuvials attacks not miss anymore, I think graviton pierecer is the name of that one

[spare frigate]

yeah its a good call.
Question is now would you do another reset when the rewards are unpaused? if not, i would recommend a 2 week prior announcement with the date of rewards being unpaused to really get the sweat going for the leaderboard grind xD

[turbid osprey]

I think for now they only do reset as needed (upcoming ones would be new mode / when rewards restart couple weeks after new mode) and then in the medium long term plan is to reset every season

I dont think we need to be prepared for any of those resets

[twilit storm]

@cyan olive after 6 attacks btw

[spare frigate]

maybe not even have ranked as a match making option for the first couple of weeks during the open testing of the new game mode (till rewards are reintroduced) 🤷🏽‍♂️

[cyan olive]

do you mean no skill based matchmaking or no shown rank on the frontend?

[spare frigate]

either or?

[cyan olive]

I´d assume all the bottom rank people would be unhappy getting matched into 0% opponents

[spare frigate]

yeah id guess so

[steep linden]

I am excited for the changes. For someone who is now just engaging in Arena, experimenting and getting my butt kicked, it like there's just inferno/phantom and spore/dust. If you doing anything else you are losing. It's what everyone is playing. I know the meta changes overtime, but feels less fun from a noob standpoint, because you can't be creative and succeed, you are eigher doing the current meta, or are you are not moving up in ranks.

Just a quick take, my opinion will change obviously.

[low comet]

no rewards for 2 weeks starting this week right?

@zenith mortar

[tribal glade]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-omg-its-happening-gif-4453990

[zenith mortar]

No date on when they restart

[elder ore]

and also no reset on ratings, right? yet

[low comet]

Need clarifications with that, we'll definitely play regardless hahahaha

[worn tree]

@zenith mortar thanks for the announcement.

Question, if last snapshot will take place on the 28th, does this mean we will play 2-3 days with new game mode being binding to ranked rewards?

[zenith mortar]

basically yes

[worn tree]

Alright, and also, does this mean that if we have already played 15 games with the current game mode, we need 10 more games with the new game mode to be eligible?

[zenith mortar]

I'm fairly sure if you already have 15 games youre fine but I'll check now

[lucid plume]

lfg

[worn tree]

Great, thank you very much sir. I will await you feedback on this!

[elder ore]

wow, so far hyper looks much more important. 200 OP on fully hyper psion hurts 😄

[worn tree]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[silver merlin]

Wildfire new meta?

[hot pond]

Kinda meh that the patch is not coming together with the last snapshot

[worn tree]

This is exquisite:

"For example, placing an Axodon on the board increases the Water and Tsunami Synergy counters by 1."

[silver merlin]

Yeah that's gonna change so much

[dull wind]

looking forward to these changes 🔥

[worn tree]

As long as we don't have to play extra games with the new game mode to be eligible, it's fine.

[hot pond]

Yea, but I am just in the position now to climb further but now with this whole game overhaul theres not enough time anymore

[zenith mortar]

Youre fine as long as you have 15 matches. The 10 matches are for new accounts going into placement matches

[worn tree]

Brilliant, thank you sir!

[worn tree]

Sure, that is true, but it is what it is.

[hot pond]

Well, I guess I can just use my smurf to go all in then 😄

[worn tree]

The Power of Ascencion Synergy is a great implementation to kill full team switch capacities.

[silver merlin]

And turn 1 stage 3

[worn tree]

Indeed sir!

[late lagoon]

ooo exciting

[worn tree]

God, I am so hyped right now. Ima read the balance changes...

[haughty edge]

Why can t play arena??

[silver merlin]

Nerfed inferno and changed dust

[late lagoon]

panicked as my game went mental... im only at 11 of my 15 games this week. Will I still only need 4 more to qualify for rewards?

[haughty edge]

Is updating??

[silver merlin]

Buffed wildfire and bloom

[silver merlin]

#📣〕announcements

[hot pond]

My smurf is higher than my main now that I noticed haha

[haughty edge]

Ah ok thanks!! F**k i ve only 2 houres for gaming today!!😅😅😂

No game for me today😂

[edgy flower]

@zenith mortar bloom buff should be green instead of red in patch notes

[zenith mortar]

Yes

[zenith mortar]

Will fix thanks

[worn tree]

Oh my god the hyper adjustment is AMAZING. This is so good for balance purposes. Hyper is the auto in-game balancer. Powering hyper impact like this should allow us to counter any meta, no matter how strong it is.

[late lagoon]

excited to try this.. can someone make me a team 😄

[sacred finch]

Can I place 2 illuvials of the same line simultaneously?
Like after making my axodon I put another atlas, or for having 2+ lynx evolutions

[twilit storm]

client says to upgrade to new version..but epicgames does not show any update going

[zenith mortar]

lol they have 2 hours

[late lagoon]

il be waiting 😄

[worn tree]

@zenith mortar will you notify us when the game is playable through announcements?

[zenith mortar]

Yes ser

[hot pond]

The changes to hyper sound good to me. Up until now hyper didnt really make a huge difference, especially if it charges almost to full but doesn't fully get there

[gritty wren]

i play some hours after work and give you my honest feedback afterwards

[inner orbit]

Can we start building teams right now or do we need the change to be deployed to the web page as well?

[hot pond]

So the mini lynx is basically required to play any other higher lynx?

[west plume]

@bronze spire when meta Video ser?

Askimg for a friend

[zenith mortar]

Week 6 Rewards Distributed

Week 7 Distributed

[late lagoon]

you guys at the top are making a fortune..

[worn tree]

Regarding patch notes, changes on Dust and Inferno were so necessary. On dust, I think making omega reduction non-permanent is a great change, if buffing blind duration to make up for the nerf was necessary remains to be seen. Regarding inferno, the nerf looks great but I still fear it is way too strong. 2-3-5 is still too strong in my eyes. This is like 4-9-20% max health true damage per second to your entire team.

I would go with 1.5-2-2.5% for actual balance. Meaning 3-6-10% max health true damage per second to your entire team, which seems much more reasonable. Will have to see how it feels current change in-game though.

[junior geyser]

wen team link

[worn tree]

What I was expecting to see is a nerf on rha and rat lines. Rha inherent buff by doubling energy constant makes it very strong. Also, inferno is just not an anti-tank mechanic, it's an anti-late game mechanic as all stage 3 illuvials have much more health so %health affects them equally. Maybe rha nerf just involves increasing energy cap to omega.

Rat line is still way too much cost effective. Its omega toolkit is way too strong and synergyzes too well with dust, potentially blinding your entire team with 1 omega. That plus the fact it has 615OP damage in one omega, very good stats and only costs 55MP it's a no brainer. Definitely needs a major nerf which wan't addressed this patch.

[worn tree]

🥰

[late lagoon]

I think inferno will be countered a lot more by empaths now? so im feeling like wildfire empath will be rly rly strong now

but I suck so who knows 😦

[zenith mortar]

Once new team builder is live public, I'll let you guys know

so you can start building

[late lagoon]

theres just soo many options now..

[dull wind]

excited to come back to the arena

[zenith mortar]

its very different

looking forward to see what you guys think

[late lagoon]

thinking is my weakness... you have countered me

[turbid osprey]

Wasnt expecting new mode already. So excited for everyones interest in the game to comeback!

Whats the reason behind removing the undo feature @topaz lake ? Havent test yet without it but i know i used it a ton and i feel like it will be frustrating to pay a high price for mistakes or bugs, whats the upside of this?

[west plume]

Thats odd,i couldent see my name on the list Rich

[zenith mortar]

I removed you, youre my alt

[worn tree]

Sure, but we need to discover what is viable. As maybe not so many are feasible.

[granite osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-dancing-dance-moves-payday-gif-17778765

[west plume]

Ahh,makes sense

[worn tree]

Most likely undo removal is due to coding issues. Not intended at will.

[zenith mortar]

Undo was causing unnecessary bugs.

[elder ore]

Also dont know it also happened to you guys, but sometimes mouse got wild and did random click which moved my iluvial . at that time, undo was useful

[junior geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bug-insects-cockroaches-music-gif-5045519

[hollow citrus]

Leak or No Leak?

[topaz lake]

It caused a lot of bugs. 😦

Let us know how it feels without it.

[junior geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/flood-pipe-gif-15999826281270001688

[dark scaffold]

let our leak specialist @west plume answer this one 🧐

[lilac grail]

When upgrading stage 1 to stage 2. we receive back the stage 1 in our deck ?

[junior geyser]

it ascends into the next stage

[lilac grail]

so only 1 Lynx Stage 3 will be placed ? can't combine multiple lynx ?

[worn tree]

It's going to feel like chess hahahaha

We will definitely miss it so as soon as you fix the bugs we will love to have it back ❤️

[sacred finch]

If i have an atlas and I want to evolve it to axon, does it cost 40 or 10 to evolve?

[worn tree]

Same here. And this is what I am fearing the most!

[rancid raptor]

Isnt this super weird?

[worn tree]

Good question! I hope it's ascension token + cost difference

[sacred finch]

i have skipped a turn because of that, the mouse clicked on ready

[elder ore]

glad that I am not the only one 😄 and its not my mouse

[worn tree]

It is, but it's also necessary. That or make the unit movable again after ascension. They chose the first option.

[inner orbit]

There is a bug where you cant place augments nor see the illuvial hexes and if I recall correctly that was fixed with undo action, do you guys know if there was another way to fix it?

[junior geyser]

the second option could be cool, maybe add a slight cost to it

[west plume]

Yes leak,please

[rancid raptor]

Yeah sorry I don't like it 😅

[worn tree]

hmm they cant add cost as it changes the nature of the game

[west plume]

No riddles

[worn tree]

Either for free or you just keep same hex for all stages

[dark vine]

nice, new patch! Question in advance ascension needs tokens AND the next stage of the stage 1 Illuvial in my deck?

[worn tree]

Yes, you need all the stages in the deck if you want to move to stage 3

[zenith mortar]

Yup and the team builder UI makes this clear when building

[hollow citrus]

lol

[worn tree]

That is actually the main reason why they increased the deck slots so much

[worn tree]

Beautiful ❤️

[zenith mortar]

Shall we play a game in voice Jeremy

[hollow citrus]

you're too bad

[zenith mortar]

Omg

[hollow citrus]

I prefer my opponent

😄

[sacred finch]

YES

[dark vine]

thought so lets see how this works 🙂 Pretty interested in the new augment mechanic for now. Hope, the augments are strong, so, that the decision-making ingame is important.

[junior geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-on-gif-27524073

[wide aspen]

Hello everyone! Gotta answer some questions:

1. To ascend a unit, you pay an Ascension Token and the difference in MP. Not the whole cost of the next stage.
2. You need to have all the previous stages to reach a certain stage, but you are not forced to have all 3 stages. You can, for example, have only Atlas and Axon in your deck. You have to play Atlas and ascend it to Axon, and that's going to be it. However, I highly recommend you to put all 3 stages in your deck, as there are some issues with having only 1 or 2 stages.
3. The hex size change was needed in order to avoid issues such as ascending a unit but it having no space, forcing you to change either your comp, or that unit's position. It might feel weird for some units (mini-lynx for instance), but it really isn't that bad.

And remember that this is a preliminary patch. There will be some bugs and we still have things to fix.

[vernal forum]

Pretty please. With sugar on top.

[turbid osprey]

Will do!

Happy to have the mode out fast and undo removed instead of waiting to fix those bugs

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-this-guy-gets-it-gif-9964726

[sacred finch]

Can i have 2 illuvials of the same line in the board at the same time? Like Atlas and Axon or 2 types of lynx

[lilac grail]

no as you don't get the stage 1 back when upgrading

[worn tree]

Yeah!

[sacred finch]

That would be a problem to lynx line, unless it's different from the others

[wide aspen]

Nope, maximum one line.

[dark vine]

All the old Normal Augments have been replaced with 52 new Augments.

Do we have a list of those?

[lilac grail]

it's what I asked some message above
#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[wide aspen]

In the next patch, we will update Lynx to allow players to put up to 3 Lynxes in their comps.

[alpine dagger]

Ending my shift at 10 pm, lets have some fun tonight in new arena 😄

[dark vine]

so, I guess that means we don't get the stage 1 lynx back after upgrading it? (Could be of interest for old rhamphyre fire decks which had all three of the rhampy line)

[wide aspen]

Yup, once you get a unit to stage 3 that's it, you don't get to play it again at stage 1.

[worn tree]

Yeah, thanks for confirmations.

About point 3, it's going to feel very weird in some aspects, maybe provide a free swap together with ascension and keep current hex proportions? Why did you reject this option? It ain't that bad for the gameplay experience

[edgy bough]

Pumped to try new mode after work tonight!

Question for Leaderboard rewards; will be paused temporarily, with the final snapshot set for 28/03/2024 at 00:00 UTC.

Does that mean rank is still live for new mode for next few days before snapshot?

[worn tree]

Yes

But if you have already played 15+games with old game mode, you dont have to expose your rank to the new game mode to be eligible

[alpine dagger]

Buahahah imagine overcoming new game mode asap, abd reaching top1 in few days 😄

[edgy bough]

One can only hope 😂

[alpine dagger]

making it happen , see you tonight boys 😄

I have been struggling to place in top10 bcz i had 1 month experience, and ppl had 1.5year exp on current arena

Show me your skill on same experience level 🙂

[worn tree]

hahahaha I like your attitude Ra boy

come at me

[alpine dagger]

Hahaah boi you gonna get clapped for abusing me in previous meta 😄

[edgy flower]

@wide aspen how work predators + rogue hyper?

[worn tree]

Hahahahahhaha, ait ait, show it to meeee!!!

[alpine dagger]

Hold your underwear tightly 😄 we will see how it works out tonight , shoft till 10pm

[worn tree]

good point, totally overlooked that. Maybe they overlap? I doubt they add on top of the other...

[worn tree]

Exquisite, I will have a few hours to prepare my ass before you come ☺️

[alpine dagger]

Not fair at all 😄 i will try to see some streams while in shift hopefully

If some1 actually goes live soon

[worn tree]

What you work?

[topaz lake]

It uses the highest value for execute

[alpine dagger]

I work as administrator for Colizeum

[worn tree]

That is an indirect nerf to predators 😭

[alpine dagger]

Its cyber arena

[hot pond]

What’s happening to the bonding? If ranger is bonded to stage 1 of the illuvial, will the bonding just take over with the other stages? Or can we rebond there?

[wide aspen]

The highest execute % takes priority. They do not add or anything.

[alpine dagger]

No dominant traits , so your bonding works same for t1/2/3

So if ramph is fire rouge, he is fire rouge till end of game

[worn tree]

Oh nice

[hot pond]

I am asking whether this is similar to the bug where we were able to rebond our ranger without cost.

[worn tree]

Will you tackle this @topaz lake @wide aspen ?

[alpine dagger]

I am electrician, it guy and digital artist, photoshop Wizard, and much more , but i am more like retiring at my 26yo, so i work here for fun and to chill with game enthusiasts 😄

[west quartz]

why would you play predator when you have fighters going on a potential +165% AS

[zenith mortar]

https://arena.illuvium.io/team-builder

Team builder is live

frens

[west quartz]

earth doka > rhamphire

[zenith mortar]

build away

[worn tree]

Because rogues jump!

[worn tree]

OMW!

[topaz lake]

Play 3 predators

[west quartz]

hyper fighter chops now

[zenith mortar]

also please send me viable team when youre done lol