🎮〕illuvium-arena

[brisk flint]

Okay thanks men

[worldly jolt]

You could wait for that. But you can fill out the form below if you want to deal with the appropriate people instead of cold calling a ceo.

⤵️⤵️⤵️

[marsh bloom]

Collab Request

Thank you for your interest in collaborating with Illuvium. To submit a collaboration request, please use the form available on our support page: http://link.illuvium.io/collab.

[granite echo]

Sorry for being slow, maybe a guide for people that have a hard time understanding this, but:
If i play now, for which week am i playing? The new one? Is the new week started, do i need to start doing those 15 games?

[worldly jolt]

Actually I may have been wrong. The ILV rewards may have been sent on ethereum mainnet. Which means they would actually be seen on you mainnet wallet.

[supple beacon]

Yes it was in the mainnet for the first 2 weeks at least

[wicked cloak]

is snapshot tonight?

or was it yesterday?

[supple beacon]

it was yesterday

[worldly jolt]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

That message is pinned. In case you need to check the snapshot time again

[onyx sundial]

Is warpwave bugged again? Didn't proc once over 6 rounds

[worldly jolt]

Hmm I had it proc for me once yesterday. Perhaps the unit needs to survive log Enough to proc. Perhaps certain units fail to proc. I’m unsure of course. Maybe press B in game and describe it. The team could investigate

[onyx sundial]

@uncut comet did you see it all proc in the game we just had?

[onyx sundial]

Yea submitted a bug

[uncut comet]

nope was bugged whole game

[onyx sundial]

Thought so. I forgot it was on until the last round and released i hadn't seen it appear once haha great match btw!

[uncut comet]

yeah 5hp and warpwave bugged i feel bad for you :S

[worldly jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-loki-sad-yes-very-sad-loki-show-marvel-loki-gif-23592461

[onyx sundial]

Yea that was wild haha

[hallow notch]

Wow, the meta has completely shifted since a few weeks ago. Will be fun trying to figure out the next top meta picks.

[vernal forum]

@shadow lion emote spammer... can we shame these people into stopping that garbage practice?

[shadow lion]

yea start playing with your 4th smurf bro

[vernal forum]

learn to handle losing without acting like a child.

bro.

[worldly jolt]

[shadow lion]

I only emoted at the end and tell the devs not me lol

[junior geyser]

emote spam way better when you win

[vernal forum]

another emote spammer comes awake. You guys should start a guild. Maybe call it x-x-borg

[shadow lion]

hahaha

[gentle bronze]

It's nothing personal lol

[shadow lion]

fr

[junior geyser]

i guess emotes are doing their job if youre upset about it lolzzz

[vernal forum]

If you actually clicked it, might be one thing... but using third party stuff... against terms of service. Would hate to see such an upstanding person be subject to the ToS. That would break my little southern heart.

[gentle bronze]

I spam emotes because there is nothing else to do when waiting, I have ADHD, and the animations are fun to spam

[vernal forum]

Do you use third party stuff to auto spam it @gentle bronze ?

[junior geyser]

just press E bro

[gentle bronze]

why tf would anyone even do that

[junior geyser]

E + 2

[vernal forum]

oh gosh... creating more simps as we speak

[gentle bronze]

ah I was about to say using third party software to spam emotes is so much effort for something so silly

[junior geyser]

third party lolz

id rather be an emote spammer than a smurfer

[gentle bronze]

What's wrong with using a smurf?

[vernal forum]

and that is why you are you and I am me. smurfing is necessary at the moment... that's why literally every top player smurfs. But, you wouldn't understand that. So you emote spam while losing.

[junior geyser]

naw like i said, its on wins for me

thats what makes me me

[gentle bronze]

Damn you gonna take that?

[shadow lion]

🙉

[junior geyser]

hes mad cus his guild sucks

[gritty wren]

https://tenor.com/view/sick-burn-omg-owned-ooooo-gif-5565292

[junior geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/smurfette-winking-girl-eye-wink-smile-the-smurfs-gif-9951568791785611775

[gentle bronze]

The only way to settle this is a 1v1 for ILV

[junior geyser]

no way, id lose every time. Hes on the game literally 24/7

[worldly jolt]

@gentle bronze please don’t instigate toxicity on the discord

[shadow lion]

this

[gentle bronze]

You're right I'm sorry lol

[shadow lion]

why does it trigger people so much when u emote them?

even if they win

wow

[junior geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/tropicalnorseman-hoberg-gif-18298878

[gentle bronze]

Cause we have a large variety of people that play Illuvium from many different cultures

One person could see emote spamming as a funny joke from their opponent as an attempt to make them laugh or enjoy the competitiveness more

Another could see it as a sign of disrespect towards them thinking their opponent is rubbing it in their face

[junior geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-the-office-officeus-politics-gif-12828402

[shadow lion]

comedian even dm'd me after the game and trashtalked me 🤣

[junior geyser]

dms are scams

[marsh bloom]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[keen moth]

I wish we had a way to disable emotes. I typically view emotes as disrespectful.

[gentle bronze]

This will for sure be a thing in the future

[junior geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-evil-thinking-yes-scheming-scheme-gif-6105555

[gentle bronze]

That's what I mean as well

[shadow lion]

even the heart emote?

[gritty wren]

no there are no multiple views

emote spamming is always this bad view

[gentle bronze]

It's really easy to get mad at your opponent for spamming emotes thinking it's disrespectful and your opponent to get mad as well because they think you're being a dick

It's a lot harder to see someone elses perspective and not be so bull headed in your apporach to social situations

[junior geyser]

so if youre actually trying to be a dick then its working out wonderfully

[gritty wren]

lets see what happens when these real sick emotes come into play

people will kill each other

[gentle bronze]

Im excited for the middle finger emote

Ill be using that on all of you (respectfully)

[junior geyser]

i will be using it disrespectfully

[shadow lion]

wow

just wow

[gritty wren]

that emote will be a ban reason

[shadow lion]

getting mad because of emotes 🤣

2024

yikes

[gentle bronze]

Bro really didnt listen to a thing I said

I tried at least 😂

[shadow lion]

🤝 😂

[worldly jolt]

They can’t. It’s a game.

[junior geyser]

in game of course (RP streamer reference)

[gritty wren]

haha yes in game..

[worldly jolt]

In game in game. They’ll try

[worldly jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-libre-smile-and-wink-gif-21235004

[junior geyser]

anyways.. off to lunch

https://tenor.com/view/spam-spam-lite-food-spinning-gif-17955332

[hoary mason]

Does our rank reset every time we have rewards?

[worldly jolt]

No

[hoary mason]

How often do they do the rewards?

[worldly jolt]

You just gotta keep your account eligible. Every week.

Rewards Snapshots

The snapshots happen the same time as the #🎮〕illuvium-beyond leaderboard snapshot each week at

<t:1700697629:F>
(thanks to discord’s dynamic timestamps the time displayed here is localized for each user, though the date and month displayed here will not be updated as we continue. So I updated this once after daylight savings time change. Beware of the spring forward.)

[civic grotto]

I just told you that you have low IQ. Which is completely true. You have proved my statement

[junior geyser]

proven*

[shadow lion]

wow

[civic grotto]

I've told you it is a sign of dissrespect, and you just keep going. I mean I dont see you anymore in my matches, guess ur to low elo for me to meet you. But I see you moved to other people. Community helper lol what a joke XD

[shadow lion]

kek

[junior geyser]

too*

[shadow lion]

it's disrespectful to emote but it's ok to say "low iq"

[vernal forum]

nobody said anything about you using the emotes... that's what they are there for. Emote Spamming - this is what you are doing and it's not ok. Pressing it over 100 times in 10 seconds is the issue. and then continuing to do it shows everyone exactly what you are about. Especially coming here and trying to obfuscate what you were doing. Shows you know it's wrong.

[keen moth]

If you are winning and don't know the opponent, emoting is probably going to be taken as a sign of disrespect more often than not. Some form of "good luck" at the beginning before it starts or a "congrats" at the end if you lose probably won't be, but almost everything else will be viewed nefariously quite often.

[gritty wren]

Lol what is going on here

[vernal forum]

trying to reason with people who can't be reasoned with, I guess.

[shadow lion]

[gritty wren]

We need more of this in the game

[shadow lion]

u all need some more hugs

[junior geyser]

[gritty wren]

But i dont get the squizz because i was christmas with my family

So i will spam you all with rage emotes because i really like that squizz

[junior geyser]

dont you realize how disrespectful that is

[shadow lion]

next time I will emote properly

so please you all

to*

(guess I had to much fun)

cheers cambo

[junior geyser]

anytime mate 🍻

[zenith mortar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1126486559751950468/1199365176894423212/Atlas-DealWithIt-Emote.gif

its a good one

I love spamming emotes personally

giving @plush iron and @patent slate the love they deserve

[shadow lion]

(the dm I got after the game)

[worldly jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/instigator-instigate-gif-10890044

[dark vine]

they won't... and there is no way to reason with them. In rl sports you would get a fine or get banned for the normal disrespectful behaviour in esports. Kinda sad to see that we teach this kind behaviour instead of the respectful interactions thaugt in normal sports. Sadly, this stuff is a lost battle and therefore I hope ILV will give the option to suppress emotes/chat and all that potential toxic stuff because this is a super important feature for a lot of people.

[junior geyser]

lol you missed my sarcasm

[zenith mortar]

I could see an option being to turn them off if people are effected by them

[dark vine]

ok, I still stand with my opinion on this.

[gritty wren]

Emotes teach nothing

[dark vine]

that is all that is needed. Happy to leave the others to their opinions then.

[zenith mortar]

I mean in fairness even the NFL brought back celebrations because overwhelming fan support. To an extent you can do "almost anything" but yeah can get fined for excessive.

[gritty wren]

You can still be respectful even with these kind of emotes

In the end it is still a game and about fun

[civic grotto]

Problem is that he can't control himself

[dark vine]

sure, but there will always be people who want to be toxic and for the game to still be fun for me I don't want to interact with them

[zenith mortar]

I don't do it to be toxic personally, I do it because i think the emotes look sick

[junior geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/intensifies-seriousgemini-doge-dogecoin-milgatetyler-gif-23803168

[dark vine]

totally fine. Just asking for the option to not see it 🙂

[gritty wren]

Mute emotes is a must

[civic grotto]

Just for the record who started it first

[gritty wren]

In arena you can even spam unlimited and fly around with these emotes haha

[junior geyser]

you by dming him

[zenith mortar]

Ok bois lets move on, I've given feedback to the team about possible option to toggle them on off.

[civic grotto]

I just asked him not to dissrespect me, simple as that.

[gritty wren]

Ok lets move on to the topic: smurf in the leaderboard?

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-18261463

[gentle bronze]

To be fair that's not true at all. In the UFC you can quite literally say what ever you want with 0 consequences.

The option to turn off emotes will save this from even being a problem a few months from now tho

[gentle bronze]

I personally think we need more smurfs so that less Arena players get rewarded for playing so if everyone could go out and make another account and start climbing id appreciate it

[civic grotto]

And in tennis crowd needs to be silent during entire match and it would send a bad look if you dissrespect your opponent after the match ends. It varies from sport to sport

[gentle bronze]

Tennis is for low testosterone men like Kieran

bad example

obv jk

[civic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/novak-djokovic-hang-up-phone-tennis-serbia-gif-12968885448505259886

[dark vine]

hmm, ok, as part of the show prior to promote the fight or even after the fight? Just curious since I am not really watching mma. Even in boxing they are mostly respectful after the fight. Trashtalk prior to an event is always something different but after winning saying the opponent sucked is kinda rare and pretty disrespectful

[gritty wren]

Ufc is a bad example because it’s mostly fake to boost the viewer bc its always a better show if you think the fight is personal

[junior geyser]

emotes do that?

[gentle bronze]

It is very disrespectful but they give them full freedom of speech. Colby Covington told his opponent Leon Edwards that when they fought he'd drag him to hell so that he could meet his father..

incredibly messed up and not right but just an example

[dark vine]

"he would drag him.." so, prior to the fight as part of the show?! As doncoupon said kinda different since it is staged? I mean the fighters know that they have to promote the sport that way... basically like wrestling

That kind of trashtalk is totally fine 😛 😄

[zenith mortar]

Why didnt you tag him

https://tenor.com/view/rocky-balboa-afraid-rocky-scared-gif-15738620923314388052

[gentle bronze]

I thought we weren't supposed to tag CCs unless we have a legitimate question so I was trying to be respectful

[dark vine]

@umbral oracle I suggest a ILV arena/boxing match 😄

[zenith mortar]

Naw Kieran exnayed that rule

[gentle bronze]

I would break Kierans jaw and have him crying to Mommy Warwick

if we fought in a respectful manner of course

Im a lover not a fighter

[gritty wren]

Kieran vs the face of illuvium

[gentle bronze]

🦖 vs 🚽 sign the dotted line @umbral oracle

[keen moth]

Smurfs taking LB rewards away from other people is really, really dumb.

But this is also a temporary problem. Once these teams cost resources to assemble you aren't going to see multi accounting much. Any multi accounting will be expensive, so if someone is willing to do that then more power to them.

[gentle bronze]

What if they use the same assets by switching them over to the wallet on their smurf?

[onyx sundial]

Seems like everyone is mostly on the same page with this. How do we go about putting a proposal for this

[keen moth]

Surely there will be methods to prevent this, right? It's not a difficult thing to stop.

Ex: If there are weekly rewards being handed out, there should be a 1 week cooldown from the last arena battle an Illuvial was used in before it can be played on a new account.

[gentle bronze]

Not sure how that would go over with the community 😅

[keen moth]

Why? That's pretty standard. Having a cooldown or staking period is a great way to prevent multi account abuse. Surely people don't want a system where 1 set of assets can grab multiple sets of rewards...

[elder ore]

There is a feedback idea about that: https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1205401434842206268

[gentle bronze]

Maybe I'm wrong and I don't really think I care too much but something tells me that the investors are not going to like that

[keen moth]

It will be important to do something to block it, if not exactly that.

[gentle bronze]

Maybe you could only lock them if the player was eligible for rewards

[keen moth]

Any game that refuses to close loopholes because of investors is not a game I'm going to be playing.

[gentle bronze]

I agree but with the way the DAO works and our current community being mostly investors it's not unlikely to see certain changes regarding the game not get passed that should until we get to open beta and have more true gamer types

[little quail]

Does anyone know how much MMR the last names on the week 2 rewards list have? I couldn't find the name of the last ones on the list on the Site Leaderboard

[dull wind]

this is the way no doubt. If some1 plays with a rhamphyre and then transfers it to another account that rhamphyre is not playable for that week or playing with it will mean not being eligible for rewards.

[elder ore]

Well for now, they can just filter like they do now, but then move all eligable up, to fill empty slots. If they have list of eligable like it was posted, it cant be hard to just fill those slots

[edgy bough]

Also this one https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1207667103595892796

Manually removing Smurf acccounts for new leaderboard for rewards seems tedious to me, maybe it’s a simple task who knows.
How complex would implementing an elo decay system for inactive accounts? Sounds like a common thing in other PVP games

[dull wind]

how hard can it be to write a script to implement decay on inactive accounts? 🤣
number of games played during previous week == 0 ? rating = rating - 200
done

[dawn rain]

can the same wallet be linked to multiple accounts?

[uncut comet]

@west quartz broooo please play other decks like everyone else

[zenith mortar]

Negative

[west quartz]

no thanks :p

[keen moth]

Which deck are you running?

[little quail]

@uncut comet nice match! gg

I was curious how much MMR I would earn if I won haha

[uncut comet]

gg thank god i didnt lost would be -50 prob xD

[viscid surge]

still same bugg.

[light thistle]

what is clumsy?

[cyan olive]

ok, if you say so, I will be on it

[west quartz]

we really need an option to mute emotes

it's anoying playing vs spamming animals

[turbid osprey]

It means they cant dodge

[light thistle]

}nice bro

[umbral oracle]

I trained boxing casually for like 4 years but now I'm a fat fuck so I don't think I'd even go a round

[civic grotto]

Good thing is that Jimbo is very ripped with 6 pack so yes, it wouldn't be a fair fight.

[umbral oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/boxing-game-boxer-gif-11572829

[turbid osprey]

As magma is a constant aura can it not be debuffed by leecher?

[reef basalt]

Welcome to dadbod lifestyle

[edgy bough]

team builder has 7 slots now? only just noticed 🤩

[calm steeple]

I think its 30 slots

[trail edge]

How many combinations of 5 bulwark + 2 Mystic + Jotun are there though? 😂

To be completely fair, I'm hardly seeing that now.

[calm steeple]

not many, doesnt seem that its popular now

[trail edge]

Weirdly, I don't think it's that much less effective.

As in. I don't think it's necessarily a losing team now, just other stuff is actually viable lol.

I'm seeing a lot of verdant teams tbh

[edgy bough]

oh sick i didnt realize it had updated already

[light thistle]

when the week finish and make the leaderboard?

[worldly jolt]

27 hours ago

[light thistle]

where i can see the leaderboard?

[calm steeple]

https://play.illuvium.io/arena/leaderboard

[worldly jolt]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

Snapshot time and the leaderboard are pinned in here.

So you can find those next time

[low comet]

please check ticket #20973 no response yet more than 24h thank youuuu

[past pelican]

Hello is it possible to link 2 illuvium account to 1 metamask wallet?

[west quartz]

Hey @noble radish i was thinking about something to tackle the fact that most people don't get rewards because there are hundreds of inactive accounts above and get mad : couldn't we have an inflationary elo system (for example when fighting someone the same elo as you you would win 22 but lose 20) AND a weekly -100 or 150 elo (i'm taking arbitrary numbers for the sake of the explanation) ? This way any inactive accounts being smurfs or not would quickly get stomped to oblivion, and people playing would feel more rewarded seing their elo go up when being active

[scarlet spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-dance-meme-gif-16875988117468559280

Sooo I have been playing like **FOUR **different decks, and have been playing against another few different decks.. This is good stuff. I am really enjoying it.

[vernal forum]

Whats the point of even strategizing a good build with multiple elements if some random dude can just go all in with 1 element and wipe your team regardless of your element?

[worldly token]

why am I playing a guy 300 points below me two times in a row

he had a total counter to my deck and I lost 60 points in just 10 minutes... love this

Does the overtime damage do damage to shields or does it ignore shields?

[bronze spire]

yep been there haha, to avoid dont que past 30-60 secs

[bronze spire]

ignores

[worldly token]

it was not even 30 seconds... both times

[bronze spire]

hmm weird, was it like within the same division like gold 3 vs gold 1?

[worldly token]

nope gold 2 against silver something

that's why i am so mad 😄

[bronze spire]

haha yea i guess all you can do is wwait and little and do small que times again to give yourself the best chance

[worldly token]

yeah.. lost 3 games to low elo players and went from 1650 to 1570...
now i am climbing again with like +7 each win. What a waste of time

I should stop playing today.. Out of 6 matches I had one in my rank

[calm steeple]

Had a fun run today, queue up with a deck, get someone whose deck hard counters yours, lose then quickly requeue with another deck that hard counters that person's deck, get immediately queued up against another person whose deck hard counters your new deck, lose that. Quickly change deck to first one that would hard counter the deck of the second person you just played, only to immediately get queued up against the first guy whose deck hard counters yours, lose. Ok not changing the deck anymore, because I will queue up against that second guy probably, stay with the same deck queue up only to queue up against the same guy who you just played and whose deck hard counters yours. Queue is a meta game.

[worldly token]

sounds about right..

excactly what is happening to me right now xD switched 3 times.. going to silver from gold 2

[bronze spire]

hahaha this is spot on

[scarlet spindle]

Yesterday I had a 15 game win streak, then a 6 loss streak doing just that.

When it hits ya, it hits ya

[worldly token]

what is the counter to spore?

[cyan olive]

Omega ability damage or truesight or clumsy augments

[worldly token]

hmm yeah, I mean which illuvials? invoker is bad. jotun doesnt cut it either if they somehow can kill one smal unit. they stack so hard

[calm steeple]

verdant berzerkers do good against it, also shock/magma enchanters

[rapid knot]

where can i find the latest patchnotes?

[worldly token]

ty
Everytime I switched to verdant berserker i was facing psions though xD

[cyan olive]

jotun wins vs those once you have 5 bw in and once you also have mystic they can barely kill anything, you don´t want your ranger/illuvials to attack the vermiliare though

[kind lagoon]

How to counter a Granite Psion Team ?

[cyan olive]

rhampyhre or multiple gyro line guys are good

[worldly jolt]

On the website. Find NEWS search for PATCH NOTES

[calm steeple]

gg man, fun match for sure

[bronze spire]

wp! was a fun one

[warped patrol]

Hi guys, I'm kinda new how can I deal with a deck where he places like 2 lizards that after a few hits stack my warrior with 2 lasers, I don't how to avoid that, I play 6 games, and they have the same strategy

[turbid osprey]

Rogues units are pretty good in general against those psions

Their lazer targets the furthest enemy so you can also make sure to bait the laser on a less meaninful unit that you place in the back

[formal willow]

is it not possible to build own ranked team its bugy idk ?

[worldly jolt]

Should be possible. Lots of people do it.

What specifically is the problem?

FYI you can post screenshots and any request for help in #❓❗〕community-help is much less likely to get buried in the chat

[dark scaffold]

should be fixed now, sorry for the delay

[summer frigate]

Will the next patch include the missing Illuvials?

[cosmic wren]

Does any1 alse have a bug that the next round wont start?

Timer is stuck on 22 sec

[junior geyser]

best way to quick fix is log out of game and back in and que back into match

[cosmic wren]

I just logged out after 5 min and lost points

[junior geyser]

yes you waited too long

as soon as bug happens you have to be quick

the game continues in the background even if you dont see any movement

[cosmic wren]

It seems to happen when i play against a specific tesm

[zenith mortar]

Spoke to Aaron - We will add the ability to mute a person, which includes chat and emotes.

[vernal forum]

Any plan to fix queuing into the same opponent 5 straight times?

[cyan olive]

I go 100x ilv on these news

most important feature

[west quartz]

Zadkiel getting nerfed lmao

[gentle bronze]

Not sure you'd enjoy the queue times if that happened lol

[vernal forum]

played the same person 7/9 times. I'm already not enjoying.

trying to test deck concepts... huge waste of time to get the same person 7/9 times playing the same deck

[lament frigate]

One of the reasons I'm not playing arena at all at the moment.

[west musk]

A couple things I do like about the current patch is I’m seeing more diversity in comps when there are active players online… and augments are much less of a deal breaker. Makes illuvials the focus and more dynamic by being able to have multiple comps in a single deck. Step in the right direction.

[trail edge]

I think the only way to test deck concepts is really to custom it.

[trail edge]

I'm seeing verdant/colossus/berserker in most matches XD

[west musk]

Ohhh it’s far from perfect 😝
But I still see behemoth and seeing assassins, psions.

[trail edge]

I was happily climbing running bulwark/berserker, but now people are running colossus/berserker all of a sudden it doesn't seem fun 😦

[west musk]

Better than every single match behemoth

[west musk]

Yah it’s pretty strong now

[vocal junco]

How do you make your character behemoth from jotun?

[hallow notch]

You have to pair the fighter + bulwark traits together.

So like sword + Jotun has bulwark dominate trait.

[vocal junco]

where can i get these info? 😄 is there a link for a guide for combinations

Thanks btw.

[little quail]

@vivid rapids second time I play against you my game freezes in the last 2 rounds, yeah, I'm going to sleep, good game

[vivid rapids]

my freezed at 0 sec too for 10 secs

anyway gg , night

[hallow notch]

Look up artemis youtube channel on Illuvium. She has a starter guide.

[urban yew]

I cant play.. stuck at queue forever and cant cancel it as well.. Anyone having the same problem?

[trail edge]

Your best option is probably illuvialmaster

[worldly jolt]

Many have.

[worldly jolt]

---

Hey guys, we are collecting information on all users affected by session not being closed for them from before the patch.
If you are trying to find a match and you see "Cancel" button greyed out, please make a bug report from inside the game by clicking "B" and title it "Stuck in a ghost session"

[proud steeple]

please fixed

[split egret]

So umbre has attack damage 141 & omega power 100 but I don't know how to find flat attack damage to use this formula. (flat attack damage*omega power+ attack damage)

@proven ember

Or anyone help me

🥺

[calm steeple]

I think omega power is divided by 100 there

[light thistle]

for what is omni vamp??

[calm steeple]

Omni Vamp
The illuvial will recover a % of all damage dealt as health.

you can check full dictionary on illuvialmaster under arena-dictionary

[zealous loom]

Why is it, I can't play illuvium arena? it just keep on loading for eternity....😕

[trail edge]

I don't know if I'm running into a million alts, or everyone is just running the same deck.

[split egret]

Fr?

[edgy flower]

OP is %

[split egret]

Oh now it makes sense

[split egret]

So how do I find flat attack?

[edgy flower]

with your eyes, watch at "attack damage"

umbra 141 as we can see at your ss

[split egret]

Ok 😂

So attack damage 141 and flat damage 141 😂

[edgy flower]

flat dmg is in description of omega

[split egret]

My man

[edgy flower]

its 340 now

[split egret]

👊

[cyan olive]

It might be people playing a recent new YouTube video/streamer/content creator team.

[safe valve]

Soo strategy is watch latest Viper Video and build counter Team?

[cyan olive]

no counters to my videos

always unbeatbale

like comment sub, watch full duration with sound on thx

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-marin-anime-marin-takigawa-my-dress-up-darling-gif-25990288

[sour silo]

how to beat with the unbeatable deck als these shock decks? Even though I'm unbeatable my score goes down 😦

[vocal junco]

Do you earn more points when you lose a round?

[bronze spire]

negative

[vocal junco]

I fought someone who did not put any illuvials for the first 2 rounds

[bronze spire]

yea they just want to see your positioning i think, well not sure about round 2 could have been afk

[vocal junco]

ok cool. thanks

[vocal junco]

Stuck on Waiting for Oponent... but cannot press B to report 😦

[cyan olive]

that´s a secret for next video

[sour silo]

I stay tuned

[worldly token]

so frustrating to win 7 games and slowly climb again just to have 2 low elo enemies and get all progress wiped again immediately. we need more players so we are fighting in the same elo range more often..

[vocal junco]

sorry

[vivid stirrup]

they check for sound on? damn

[cyan olive]

yeah, same on twitch etc. people having stream muted on non open tab don´t count as viewers

it is to fight embeding inflating view counts

[vivid stirrup]

good to know 🙌

[wheat wasp]

ARENA IS SERIOSLY FRUSTRATING ATM

Experiencing several WTF's per game bruh. looking at my units not moving with clear pathway. auto targeting units around the board, kinda losing my wits even with proper positioning. illuvials has a mind on their own.

[civic grotto]

That man is the most dangerous, he has nothing to lose 😅

[wheat wasp]

grind wins 5 streak for hours then suddenly you lost a round you go back to the below the rank you started ranking. Life is good. goodbye hours. lols

[sour silo]

its like when I import a deck and want to name it, no matter how I name it, it says its forbidden... "Shock" "Squizz" aiaiaia 😮

[hallow notch]

Says the man who gave everyone their deck yesterday x) lol

[vernal forum]

My biggest pet peeve right now is the gd tails getting in the way of my bonding. Holy hell that's driving me nuts. Shows what a great job the team is doing on improving the game when that's my biggest frustration.

[vernal forum]

oh yeah, just got reprimanded for "shock" myself. Outstanding.

[azure wigeon]

I think this Patch is good enough. balanced. @ebon pagoda

[hallow notch]

It's more balanced compared to previous meta for sure! Need to keep playing to learn balance better.

[cyan olive]

I do that every day I stream tbh

[azure wigeon]

im a low elo player...

[wet whale]

hi guys
anywhere i can check the affinity weakness chart
the composite affinity
like what is the weakness for toxic or granite for exmaple
but a full chart
the illuvi master website only has the chart for the primary affinities

[light thistle]

how i counter the lynx with toxic comp?? i cant won

its crazy

[olive hedge]

@cyan olive should be able to help you out when he sees this

[unreal siren]

Would also like to know. Seems like 75% of matches are toxic colossus.

[civic grotto]

Its not that hard to counter Verdant/toxic/berserker comp

Just squizz it up

[vivid stirrup]

i answered you here: #💬〕general message
pls don't post the same questions in multiple places ^^

[vivid stirrup]

shock enchanter is a hard counter to it @light thistle
https://play.illuvium.io/team-builder/14a55fff-3ef0-4841-9c7c-6ad169463ac0 deck credits to @cyan olive ^^

[wet whale]

thanks

[cyan olive]

I did throw away the free winstreak with the shock enchanter thing

fc streaming sometimes

[little quail]

@warm rivet nice match, goodgame wp

[warm rivet]

Gg i was AFK for last round since kid Woke up hehe, but wp

[little quail]

I see, was surprised that you didn't change positions in the last round haha

[vernal forum]

Yes, this changed with PvP release. It was greatly simplified. Everything just works off base affinities now. So, granite is earth, tsunami is water, etc. toxic is either water or nature and you choose which one in the team builder. Then it goes water >> earth >> fire >> nature >> air >> water also water > fire meaning if they are two down the line the hyper effect is halved.

[umbral citrus]

When are last week's awards coming in?

[night spindle]

So with the discussion about smurfs I just had a quick look at the leaderboard at rank 586 there are over 500 inactive accounts that i guarantee have not played a game for weeks sitting on 1372 points taking up almost half the rewards, that are not removed when calculating rewards, when they do not meet the requirements. How does the team expect new players to be incentivised to climb the ladder when this is the case?
And thats just at that level. There are other levels the same. Now we may have players that are playing at around 1000 points at this time that could be getting rewards and telling theyre mates about it yet , with the current system i would say conservatively 75% of the top 1000 are inactive accounts or smurfs.
750ish lower ranked players telling their mates about rewards is a missed opportunity for the team imo. Pooling the ILV is not growing the player base.

[unreal siren]

I believe the team said you need to log MINIMUM 25 matches completed (no surrenders) to qualify. So all those 1372's are likely to miss out anyway.

[night spindle]

You are 100% correct! however they are place holders holding out lower ranks from receiving rewards if they "do" play the 25 meaning that no-oone receives the rewards "at all"! So they should be removed to enable people "actually playing" to receive the reward and currently they are not.

[trail edge]

It's a bit annoying how much the placement matches impact things too

[night spindle]

Imagine the hype generated by 500 more people receiving rewards

[trail edge]

If you place into ~300 ELO (like I did) it's a nightmare trying to push up to 1370

[night spindle]

100% I feel for you bro

[trail edge]

Much faster to generate a smurf and try to win the 3 placements.. but that's just going to add to account volume (maybe this is good for the team to show more accounts, idk)

If I were genuinely just aiming for rewards, I would keep creating accounts until I won 3 placements and popped up at like 1100+

[night spindle]

Originally all new accounts started at 1500 so later joiners will definately find it hard. Especially with the smurfs and placeholders. It seems the top players play the 15 matches and then smurf for the week.

[night spindle]

Sadly with the current system even 1100 points wont get you anywhere near the top 1000 due to the placeholders and smurfs.

[trail edge]

Yeah, I mean if I was guaranteed top 10 or something this seems like the strategy.

Rather than playing and dropping out.

[night spindle]

Yea I agree for sure, however the smurf account that is played on also pushes other people out of rewards. Needs to be looked at to incentivise others and generate excitement. I have got rewards every week so far but would dearly love more activity in the game!

Especially leading up to launch

[trail edge]

What would happen if they just wiped the ELO every week?

Or at least introduce decay.

[night spindle]

Well I dont think it would be fair that a new player comes straight up against a top 10 player on day 1. the current elo means you wont get matched with number 1 say until your skill reflects it. So top players retaining their brackets is ok so people below may step up when ready. Not rewarding lower ranked players due to an inactive account that are not eligible for rewards is a bit strange.
Lets say viper doesnt play this week as he is on holidays (Just and example viper 🙂 ) he can keep his reset elo but then becomes ineligible for rewards and rank 1001 gets a reward. And nobody playing would have any issue with this. But thats not the current system. Viper shouldnt be penanlised too badly for not having time to play that week either.
The current system with ELO is decent but the placeholder issue is terrible!

[trail edge]

I think the benefit of decay however, is people can see who is/isn't eligible.

[worldly jolt]

Perhaps Inflated monthly active users

[vocal junco]

what does "on takedown" mean?

[worldly jolt]

Takedown is when an illuvial is defeated and removed from play.

I believe Takedown can specifically mean last hit. But it does not. It can mean assist as well.

Someone else that’s actually good at this game will know for sure.

[hallow notch]

Maybe once a month do a reset? I think once a week might be a little often.

Also, I think after reset, they need eveyone to start lower, like 0 or 500. Then you can gain rank faster if you win the first 10 or so matches, otherwise you stay low and build from there. This will stop the smurfs that want to keep resetting to 1300+ on multiple accounts. Better for them to build up one account since high points are not just handed to you on a golden platter for new accounts

[warped ocean]

Just had an idea, when illuvial goes Hyper, animation throughout round should be as if it went Super Saiyan like in DBZ

https://tenor.com/view/goku-fighting-rule-gif-25490893

@umbral oracle what u think

[cyan olive]

no takedown means kill or assist

[twilit storm]

@wet whale #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[vocal junco]

How is jotun so strong even against nature which is literally his counter

[vivid stirrup]

you could say it's not his "counter" technically, it just counters his affinity so it does not get hyper. but it stays the same strength. your nature units are more likely to go hyper vs frost tho, so if they do get hyper they get stronger. but jotun is still a beast. 😄

[cyan olive]

hyper isn´t a 1-1 unit system

a player can e.g. play jotun and fire or earth illuvials and your nature illuvials won´t even get hyper

there is no direct dmg buff or debuff like in pkm

[wheat wasp]

so rhampyre cheezing lynx atm is the thing

a lot of us here is starting to realize this arena thing is not for us. hope you guys enjoy

[wheat wasp]

well said here.. a lot of my friends just complained bout that and just stop playing.

[night spindle]

Hopefully they sort it out fast more players = more fun!

[wheat wasp]

seeing same players everyday just diffirent rankings, smurffing hope they release overworld soon, arena is not for me

[light thistle]

thanks dude

[edgy bough]

Decay is the way, not sure why it hasnt been implemented yet hopefully soon. Johnny posted an update in https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1207667103595892796 about it.

Last I heard from the team here, they were discussing elo reset every 2-4 weeks. In recent council notes they confirmed a reset takes very little dev time, and a season is initially intended for every 4 weeks.

[tranquil sundial]

Lets say I have 3 nature illuvials so they get the affinity level 3 buff, when 2 of them dies and only one remains, does it changes the buff back to affinity level 1? Or are those set at the start and stays the same for the round no matter who dies during round?

[brave citrus]

where can we find the leaderboards?

[sour silo]

its stays the same

[sour silo]

https://play.illuvium.io/arena/leaderboard?activeTab=ascendant

[alpine dagger]

In case your smurf acc is higher rating than your own main acc, how is reward distribution working ? I gotta link same wallet to smurf acc or ? If i got it right, any highest acc rating is used in reward system? Why is that so? 2 weeks ago it was made clear : only main acc can collect rewards

[scarlet spindle]

They kinda do in an upcoming update, but I think it is more purple than gold. Check the leaks channel.

#🚰〕leaks message

[warped ocean]

Just saw yeah movin toward that direction yep nice

[scarlet spindle]

I am hoping the colors will match the affinity, green for nature, orange for fire, etc. But even as is with being illuvium purple, looks pretty baddass

[warped ocean]

Now imagine stage 1 illuvials looked like this, more cuteified, game changer

[supple beacon]

Good question, right now my 2nd account is the highest but I did not link any wallet to it. I would love to avoid managing mutiple wallets

[obtuse imp]

the worst part about smurfs is not only they take a place but that you are constantly playing people between 1k-1.3k that are clearly smurfing and making first accounts players the climb harder

[cyan olive]

you need different wallet as far as I am aware

[cyan olive]

if they are 1-1.3k they aren´t that good tbh
anyone who is usually 1800+ will get to 1700+ quickly and easily

1800+ is when you need lik 70%+ winrate

[safe valve]

70% winrate seems pretty high.
Is this intended, or it might change?
Just decided today to suck up more Arena Info, wana Start playing again next week 🙃

[cyan olive]

if most of your opponents are lower ranked than you, you gain less, lose more

[safe valve]

Makes sense

[cyan olive]

e.g. you get +13 -26 vs around 150 mmr lower than you I think

which if you are in a top 20 or better spot, your average opponent won´t be same rank, as there are few of them

[hallow notch]

Asked to share this here as well: Reporting in from an investor/gamer perspective. Ranked Arena is so much fun. Like it's addicting. Been playing Arena for about 4-8 hours a day, the last four days. So much strategy. Even in a mirror style matchup--which becomes a lot like chess. Lots of little depth to it. Fine positioning can win games. Precise unit deployments matter. Love it. Obviously, your team comp is what's most important, but placement is also so key. Loving the gameplay overall.

Also, server issues seem a little better. I have had only a couple matches completely DCs out of the last 100 or so matches.

[fallen vortex]

Yeah its closer to solid than people think. Almost impossible to eliminate the teambuilder side of things being so crucial imo

[wet whale]

hello peeps, still struggling to understand how ranger links to illuvium

how do i know what the weapon will give mw

[worn tree]

I agree, but maybe some in game added variability like the legendary augments system could be beneficial, to avoid repetitiveness and frustration. While preserve the essence of the deck, add in game variability to become slightly more tftish in terms of in game decision making would be great.

[fallen vortex]

I think the recent upgrade to Legendary Augments was so close

It has made me enjoy the game so much more

[worn tree]

wdym so close sir?

[fallen vortex]

Right now if it favours one player then it puts them at a pretty solid advantage

But it makes more teams more viable since u can adjust your strategy mid game based on legendary auigmemts

I mean u could split the bids for the chips/imprints and other augments maybe idk

[worn tree]

Ah yeah, it was great. I am also referring from new features, completely different from the augment system

[fallen vortex]

Or just make the chips/imprints randomly given out

[worn tree]

I would make that class/affinity imprints are equally appearing, so one for each player's comp. Otherwise it can make a game really unfair.

Imagine you go behe frost and the other goes verdant and colossus. Right now with the current system you might get frost and behe imprints and not get any of verdant of colossus. This rng is way too strong and can decide matches. This is triggering

[civic grotto]

Mmmm I just love keeping gold emote spammers in gold

Yummy

Isn't that right @junior geyser ?

[junior geyser]

gg's

https://tenor.com/view/harder-spock-star-trek-the-original-series-hit-me-harder-gif-23503761

[keen moth]

Yeah, they really need to set it so it matches 1 augment from each players deck. It definitely feels bad when 2 pop up and you don't have either.

[civic grotto]

Why don't you emotespam when you lose? You only spam when you are winning? Is that how it goes?

[junior geyser]

yes, ive stated that previously, and i stick to it

only wen win

https://tenor.com/view/salt-salty-roast-gif-7388818

[civic grotto]

You and your buddy are getting nerfed next patch, lol

[trail edge]

I do enjoy the mindgame though.

[tulip tiger]

sorry anon

[worn tree]

I am not talking about the mindgame, I am talking about too strong outcomes generated by randomness is a very dangerous game. A game can be literally decided by augments if one player gets 2 of his composites imprints and the other doesnt. Wonder why not set the algo that always shows one imprint of each team.

[trail edge]

Yeah. I mean it's partially decided because of the mindgame though.

Cos if you know they're going 3 for frost and 1 for behemoth as an example, it'll get cancelled out. What makes it really bad, is they can effectively let you have it and take something else, with 0 opportunity cost to them.

Whereas you're forced to play defence on it.

But yeah. I guess the problem is that if you take their augment, they don't care lol.

[fallen vortex]

All I know is the legendary augments are the 1 thing that makes me diverge from flowcharting. The more we double down on that mechanic the deeper the strategy becomes

[mighty token]

Been stuck in infinite queue for a few weeks, its a queue problem or a bug? D:

[warped ocean]

Is there an explanation anywhere of what Toxic synergy does

[little quail]

Make a bug report from inside the game by clicking "B" and title it "Stuck in a ghost session"

[hollow orbit]

I would like the ability to turn off my opponent's emotes. Really stressed out against guys who keep hitting their emotes when they are sure of winning.

I think it's fine to use it as a greeting or in between matches.

[supple beacon]

I can retire now I'm good

[supple beacon]

Had to put my main ahead of my 2nd account

[junior geyser]

every week

[edgy bough]

one two combo nicely played

[zenith bough]

Nice one!

[winter dagger]

Anyone suggested having the game open up when a match is found (like Dota2 or CS does), sometimes doing other stuff and a game gets found and I miss their team or even miss the first augments bidding

[cobalt tendon]

has anyone received a response regarding the exclusion from the leaderboard in the second week?

I wrote the ticket on February 15th, there is still no answer. @zenith mortar do you have some information on this issue?

[zenith mortar]

Support is likely investigating and will get back to you soon

[edgy flower]

Again we came to infinite mirrors of enchanters, now with magma instead of tsunami, wen patch? : {

[granite osprey]

when Q2 OB come then Arena deck use NFT illuvials?

[zenith mortar]

Yes you’ll have to capture them or buy them on market once everything is live

[granite osprey]

is it OK to share some NFTilluvial with brother for make deck to win to Arena?

[zenith mortar]

You’ll be able to transfer them, but as for rental/borrowing type of things it’s not available yet but know some are working on it

[granite osprey]

yes rental or something will scam or truble for sure. it's real family so. Can't wait to OB!!!!

[marsh bloom]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[cyan olive]

idk what you mean with that

[hot pond]

Anyone know who whity is? There are like 10 whitys in the leaderboard. Someone is really dedicated lol

[hoary mason]

Do you have a good slayer or phantom deck?

[cyan olive]

most teams play a gauntlet and rhampyhre to beat 7 psion or cheese some game

slayers aren´t good

[granite osprey]

The Best

[bronze spire]

dedicated to saving illuviums reward pool 😆

[calm steeple]

there could be a leaderboard for people who have helped in not giving out ILV from rewards pool by having tons of smurfs in top 1000, those people could get rewarded with a % of the ILV that was not given out in the main leaderboard

[cyan olive]

that would indirectly mean you can get more rewards for more accounts, most people would have issues with that

[onyx sundial]

Nothing yet for my ticket either

[jagged verge]

This is just a “good job team!” Message: I’ve been playing zero from the start but just now started playing arena and really enjoyed it. 🤘

[echo yew]

With all these 5 bw teams both slayers will just get stuck on 1 grocko and they won't be able to stack passive

[vernal forum]

I submitted a bug report, but found out after the game (ty viper) that I made a mistake and it wasn't a bug. Is there any way to cancel my report or anything I can do to help this mistake not waste people's time on?

[worldly jolt]

Unsure. I’ll see what I can figure out.

[vernal forum]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-thanks-thank-you-so-much-dog-happy-smile-gif-17162309

[dark scaffold]

you got the ticket number? I will initiate the ticket burning procedure (very spectacular one 🔥 )

[vernal forum]

I looked through my email account associated with this ilv account and I can't find any email in there. Is there another way to find the ticket number?

[dark scaffold]

whats your ranger name

[vernal forum]

Soda_Hype3

[dark scaffold]

60MP?

[vernal forum]

yes!

[dark scaffold]

the ticket is no more 😈

[vernal forum]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066

[worldly jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/best-team-teamwork-best-team-ever-anchorman-ron-burgundy-gif-11877904

[spring marsh]

hello, when will be next leaderboard snapshot?

[junior geyser]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[honest pawn]

so there are only a few people with countless smurfs playing over leaderboard, thats sad

[west quartz]

Might change if the team finally exclude Smurfs from leaderboard

[spring marsh]

The most strange thing for me is how rating works in first 5-10 matches. I played first 5 games with default decks and lost more than 500 mmr just in first games. And for now I played in total 45 games and have 60% winrate and my rating is still 600. When I am looking on leaderboard I understand that to get into leaderboard I should win 100 more games or what? xD

[worldly jolt]

The ranked system pays off for those that don’t play ranked until they can win.

Or open a new account when they can win.

[spring marsh]

If you think that losing 500 rating in first few games is good idea there is no point to discuss it. With such conditions new player wont stay in such games. The stupidest thing I ever saw in games is when you have positive winrate but you rating twice lower since start.

[worldly jolt]

Not my system. Not my thoughts. Just saying how the system that is in place works.

[turbid osprey]

The placing matches could be invisible like in csgo, play or win X games to get your rank

I agree its a bad first experience getting -20% of your rank in your first game

[twilit storm]

@spring marshthe first 3/4 games on a fresh account can boost you 600/800 total..but you need to win all of them...the other side of the thing is..if youy lose the first 3 games..your elo goes bananas

and..100 games won on average facing an oppo at yourl level can net you 1800/2000 ish..so no..you need way less than that to get some reward from the leaderboard

[spring marsh]

anyway losing 400 elo in first 4 games isn't fair. For today I won 13/15 games and got only +~175 elo, so I should play 50 games with really good winrate to get for 1k elo lol

[twilit storm]

you tell me...I lost 500 elo in 48h just coz I was tilted and not 4 games more like 20 losses streak, from gold 3 to rubbish..but I am grinding back..no pain..no gain

the fun part...I lost vs some very fresh accounts..prolly smurfs...40 points per match...go figure...the "mighty jotun" pre nerf killed my elo big time

[honest pawn]

i knew this was gonna happen from the start, not sure how they can stop this from happening.

[edgy bough]

Week 2 there was 20+ Smurfs in top 100, not sure where it stands now. Feel free to add your two cents to https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1207667103595892796

[cyan olive]

you can just make new accs until placements go well

once you know how to play somewhat decently

[west musk]

Which, I'd say, sux... that the system is set up in such a way that you just make multiple accs and game the ranking system. There's got to be a better way. But in the land of dog eat dog... every morsel counts i guess.

umbre eat umbre XD

[vernal forum]

Feedback time. I just finished my 15 games this week on my main account.

First off - the game is improving at a very fast rate - so kudos are well deserved for everyone working on this project. The last changes to balance have made many teams viable - even when the top players are playing only 1 deck, it still feels like there are counters to it or at least some play within the decks now to make the games interesting.

Mirrors are still kinda garbo in that the first few rounds are not skill based in winning those rounds - it's still quite random and I don't know how to improve it. I wonder if Illuvium made round one 200 MP that would change anything?

15 games played. I played against only the top players and only against 4 different players total.

The largest issue is I played the same player 12 times. 12. 12 of 15. 10 straight times also. This is absolutely atrocious for player experience and should probably be considered for improvement soonish. I understand that more players may improve this, but there is something wrong in the algo if it allows this to even happen ever. I never waited more than 60 seconds for a game.

[static lodge]

hi pl

what is averange rnak to get paid some illubvium per week? is there some medium or?

[hidden carbon]

@cyan olive in your last YouTube video explaining the rewards system, are you saying that if I create a second account I need a new MetaMask to connect to that account? You can’t just use the same wallet as your main account?

[young wagon]

I think the change you made to only being able to carry one augment of each type in the deck is a mistake, it takes away flexibility from the game and value from lower cost augments. Ideally, you can carry several in your deck, but you can only use one, and you can replace the lowest tier one with a higher tier one, similar to how you replace weapons and armor on your character.

[west musk]

I actually prefer it this way. The game is more about the illuvials now rather than the icing sprinkles on the cake.

[cyan olive]

as far as I am told you need different wallets

[hidden carbon]

Ok thanks

[young wagon]

Illuvials have much more value than augments, which is precisely why the lack of flexibility penalizes augments a lot, especially when you need one to be able to counter a compo. In the end you always want the highest cost,
At least in the important ones, but that reduces the flexibility in your deck and even the possibility of using augments in early phases, plus you will hardly use the low cost ones.

There are some augments that in phase 1 are better to compensate, but this does not happen in all augments, and in phase 2 they are not better comparatively than in phase 3.

[west musk]

Now instead of augments to counter there are illuvials to counter. I'm also seeing a wider range of comps which is nice. Some comps have multiple teams built in them now which actually makes gameplay more dynamic and less rote. I agree with Soda's comments above,.

[worldly jolt]

I’m not sure what you mean by average rank. But this may help you see who has gotten rewards last week. #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[west musk]

Legendary augments have more value now as well. I like that the class/affinity augments can affect the game more now as well. enchanter pops up, grab it,... put in a kuk and replace the lynx or whatever. So idk... maybe different play styles. But I like that a deck can consist of more illuvials than augments now.

[static lodge]

i mean .. im not in offcourse.. but if there.. how many game su need to win or?

[worldly jolt]

You need to be in the top 1000 spots on the leaderboard.

[static lodge]

how i check that?

[worldly jolt]

https://play.illuvium.io/arena/leaderboard?activeTab=ascendant

[static lodge]

is there any

oh

[worldly jolt]

It’s on the website

This would be helpful too #📣〕announcements message

[static lodge]

thanx.. im far away hahaha

lost like 10 matches .. and dropped from 1080 till 600 hahah

[young wagon]

If you can't play certain augments until the end of the game it doesn't increase the possibilities, it reduces them. It's the opposite of what you think is happening. It is better to be able to counter with illuvials and augments, or have different possibilities with illuvials or augments, than only with illuvials and the augments for the end of the game because they are expensive and worse, only in very specific cases can you fit them. And many times not even that because they are very expensive, and you can't put the cheap version in the deck.

[static lodge]

yep.. im still learning but ya

[west musk]

maybe. i mean, you can put the cheap version in.

I guess we are a little spoiled as well... we get all the illuvials and all the augments. But when OB comes out, all these things will need to be grinded for and won't all be available in the game right away.

But this is good testing ground for what works and what doesn't. I think this patch is a step in the right direction tho. not all will agree.

[young wagon]

For example, you need to run a biogenic suppressor to counter decks that heal, and since the augment is so important, you need to run the 3-star one. If you could carry one at cost 20 and another at cost 40, you could use the one at cost 20 early, and the one at cost 40 late, but you simply can't, and since the cost 40 one is so expensive in early, using it is not worth, or difficult to fit into the composition. Or for example, you need 4-cost augments for your carry, however being able to carry two identical augments in your deck can allow you to put important 20-cost augments for your composition at the beginning of the game, and replace them with 40-cost ones in the end. However, since you can't do these things, you play illuvials in a linear way, when you can't play more you play augments because they are generally worse and since you can't carry the cheap ones you can barely prioritize them in and that's it, which is the complete opposite to the variety that you have mentioned. It's as if in TF objects were only placed when you had the composition set up.

[west musk]

I can see that. They have stated that the game will fundamentally change... even more than what's changed so far. So while that particular strategy worked before, it doesn't now because of the augment limitation. Sounds like there will be more things that will become obsolete as things change.

All I can measure is based on my experience playing the game. When it was all behemoth all the time, or all crazy bird all the time, I didn't enjoy playing at all. But now, I like seeing different comps now and also having a deck with a lot of illuvial options to try and predict what the opponent will do... and being able to change directions in the middle and actually have it work feels better too.

So, I hear you, and maybe augment system will change again as well as arena evolves.

[young wagon]

What you just said has nothing to do with augments nor does it contribute anything at all. After the augment nerf everyone was playing jotun + frost because the synergy was broken and that had absolutely nothing to do with augments. What you just said is a balancing problem, which occurs and has occurred regardless of the augments. You have not given a single valid argument to say that the change would be for worse, and I have given several arguments why I believe the change would be for the better. But I guess this is the internet, it's easier for someone to donate 100 bitcoins to you than for someone to agree with you.

[brisk dove]

yes baby

[west musk]

That's a key difference, I'm not trying to argue with you. You are welcome to have your position.
Sounds like u are pretty salty about it all. Hope it gets better for you.

[fallen vortex]

I think the limiting augments has its own problems but really 90% of the augments are straight garbage useless. Thats the real problem.

But allowing 2 of each augment in a given team could be good tbh

[static lodge]

i dotn think.. there are some important ones.. 3 sec cant recieve dmg.. thats nice..

[dull wind]

why is there no winning streak bonus 😦 ?

[cyan olive]

because we have actual mmr shown and not some star or w.e. ranking into top X ranked by mmr I think

[vernal forum]

Just had a thought about queuing against the same person a lot in a row... it is arguably a bad user experience, but does it have to be???

Say you play a match and both players immediately queue up again (say within 5 or 10 seconds), you could have the system send them a "Would you like a rematch with xyz player?" and if both players say yes before another, say 5 or 10 second timer, a rematch is immediately launched. Now, this could be rife for abuse, but Illuvium could use this as an abuser honeypot too. Finally, could easily be opted out of as a feature. Thoughts?

[fallen vortex]

Abuser honey pot only works when u don't call it out!

Soda nuuuuuu

[worldly jolt]

Are there really 7000+ playing Survival most days?

[gentle bronze]

definitely not that has to be some kind of error

[fallen vortex]

Honestly I wouldnt say never, its a lot more playable for people who keep getting stomped on ladder

[gentle bronze]

That's fair but 7k is a lot of people

[fallen vortex]

But chances are it gives everyone a default score of 0 or somethn

maybe thats the amount of people who have downloaded

[gentle bronze]

That seems way too low now

I shouldn't sit here and act like ik one way or the other tho lol

[fallen vortex]

How so?

I guess u r right actually

yeah damn

Wait it must be people that have ever played survival once

[gentle bronze]

Now that would make more sense

[fallen vortex]

about 30% of total downloads

feels right

[knotty zephyr]

how many weeks with rewards for arena leaderboards will be?

[edgy bough]

indefinite i believe

[edgy bough]

how would ppl abuse it?

[west musk]

Have two accounts... match with yourself (or a friend)... rematch over and over to rank up. Back to smurfing again.

[edgy bough]

ohhhh duh

[hardy minnow]

lol, I just defeated 4-0 now, and he got -141 rank points, dam scary

[turbid osprey]

You defeated a new account that is in his early placing games, the fact that you won 4-0 doesnt change anything

[half tinsel]

Anybody can tel me if i was eligible for the rewards or not ?

[cyan olive]

check pinned messages here

[half tinsel]

did everyone already got their last week rewards ? i was top 200ish but i do not see rewards nowhere. where do you get your rewards ?

[half tinsel]

Spent like 20 minutes searching. nothing so far

[cyan olive]

it is the most recently pinned message #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

this is for week 2, week 3 hasn´t been posted yet

but would be pinned here as well

[half tinsel]

Oh nice, thanks. i just learned how to read pinned messages 😄

I'm not in the rewards table tho 😦

[turbid osprey]

You can open a support ticket if you didnt recieve your rewards, it will take them around 5 days to get back to you

[half tinsel]

when is the end of the week for the rewards capture ? sunday 23:59 ?

[cyan olive]

it is shown aa a discord event, will show in your local timezone

same as illuvitars leaderboard

or 35h from atm every week same time describes it as well

[half tinsel]

35 hours ? dude, i've been reading it wrong 😄

i thought it was sunday

[worldly jolt]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[silver merlin]

ive been in queue for almost 10 minutes. is there a bug or just nobody playing?

[turbid osprey]

cancel and restart, it can bug

[silver merlin]

i cant cancel it

[turbid osprey]

If your cancel button is greyed out you will never find a game, click the back button and comeback

[silver merlin]

and if i go back game freezes on loadscreen

[turbid osprey]

Restart game then

[silver merlin]

i did

same thing

[turbid osprey]

It freeze on loading page?

[silver merlin]

it stays loading endlessly

[turbid osprey]

Does it still roll while loading or it froze?

[silver merlin]

not neceserely freeze

no its rolling

[turbid osprey]

Oh ok, give it 2-3mins, sometimes its long

[silver merlin]

hmm oke

ill try again

still rolling...

@turbid osprey

[turbid osprey]

Mmm i dont know man. Hopefully someone else knows and can help

If you internet is fast enough and its not too much a pain you can always try reinstalling in the mean time

[silver merlin]

hmm 18gb is a lot tho

ill start with a bugreport

[twilit storm]

@silver merlin it s the ghostbug

open a ticket

[silver merlin]

do i need to do it on the site or is bugreport ingame enough @twilit storm ?

[little quail]

@silver merlin Try press B, and title it 'Stuck in a ghost session'

[silver merlin]

yeah i already made a similar bugreport @little quail , so i dont need to do it again on the site?

[little quail]

I think you just need to wait now

[silver merlin]

alright

[west quartz]

that would actually be dope

love the idea of going from cute to badass as the stage rises

[safe valve]

Isn't that the case yet?

[lucid imp]

if i bonded my ranger to a illuvitar, how i can i change the bond without removing the bonded one?

[west quartz]

it is, but not as much

[safe valve]

You can't

[granite echo]

I lost 300 points in one week and the worst part is that i don't know what am i doing wrong. I use the 5 bw, 2 enchanter, 2 mystic, magma deck

[vivid stirrup]

put sear jotun and shock in there for more counterplayability

[brisk dove]

not sure 🙂

[worldly jolt]

Just so you don’t get confused when looking at NFTs on the IlluviDex….

[lucid imp]

sorry, my wording. for me its literally the same

[west quartz]

It’s literally not though 😂

[worldly jolt]

Just making sure you knew

[west quartz]

Illuvitars = profile picture characters, they are artwork cards picturing the illuvials

Illuvials = the creatures you capture and play

[lucid imp]

but the one was generated from the other 😉 and for me personally i dont care how i call them ^^ as far as i know what i mean ^^

[undone cipher]

My account can't find matches anymore

8+ minutes trying to look for opponent, tried 3 times

[sacred finch]

as I just said to you on general #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[undone cipher]

yeah, im reporting as you said it

[sacred finch]

you have to report it in game, press B and fill the bug report like that

[undone cipher]

okay thanks

[gleaming panther]

When is the leaderboard week updated and when are the rewards given out?

[junior geyser]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[twilit storm]

we must be honest: top 20 of the leaderboard is a shitshow of smurfs, disgusting

[civic grotto]

I said it long time ago and I'm gonna say it again- Smurfs are paid actors..

😄

[plucky sigil]

stop the smufs!! 1 player per person!

[worldly token]

you will never be able to stop players from making second accounts 😅

[bronze spire]

agreed

[civic grotto]

No but you can introduce advanced KYC system which will make so much harder for them to create more accounts

[crystal aurora]

does smurfs get rewards?

[bronze spire]

nope

but they take a slot which no one gets rewarded for, eg person below doesnt get bumped up

[twilit storm]

and this is "sick" af imho

[plucky sigil]

its fake publicity when u say 1000 slots get a reward and its full of smufts in all the top 1000

[twilit storm]

full of smurfs..annnndddd...inactive noname no pfp "dummies"...it s a joke, no more than that.

[cyan olive]

yeah should be 1-2-3 not 3-4-5

but i suck i guess

[twilit storm]

ye...n1 or nothing..these smurf with no rewards are just there to brag..but you can brag wen n1 not 3-4-5. grind harder

[cyan olive]

It is just the correct thing to do

Play on lowest acc

Secure top X that way

Nothing about bragging

Maxing chance for placement

[twilit storm]

you are good enuff to be n1, can t understand this third position, and I think lowelo is inactive this week too..bah

[cyan olive]

Unlucky day will get it tmr

[alpine dagger]

Rewards for week 3 not dropped yet ?

Wen can we expect ?

[worldly jolt]

This pin will keep being updated. #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

Wednesday or Thursday seems likely

[fallen vortex]

U stink

😛

[tulip tiger]

I wish I had 12 hours a day to play . One day I'll be the very best.

[toxic vector]

Hey, where can i find the leaderboard?

[fallen vortex]

I wish I had 5 minutes a day 😛

[cobalt tendon]

is it possible to find out some kind of intermediate status? I am very worried about future rewards. I was high on the leaderboard that week and this week, it would be sad if I was crossed out

[onyx sundial]

I did. Wasn't overly helpful as they just said I didn't place high enough even though I definitely did 🤷‍♂️ . I submitted screenshot proof of my elo the following day so hopefully they realize there's an error

[granite osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/strike-freedom-gundam-seed-destiny-dragoon-dragoons-gif-15544234608426054517

[vivid stirrup]

why r some ppl still crying about smurfs in the leaderboards..

team has already confirmed they heard you and they are working on a fix to improve it. why keep complaining?

be happy we have those rewards. is this the first version of the reward system, its not perfect yet, and maybe counting all the smurfs only 300 people get rewarded? sure.. but it is still a huge luxury in a beta.

the argument with only 150 got rewarded in the first few weeks is more a statement of our low playerbase. anyone who tries for real can get into the top 1000 right now.

even with the flawed reward system, it will never be easier to get into the leaderboard than it is right now..

[cyan olive]

It isn’t even necessarily playerbase it is that old mmr start 1500-few wins now soft reset accs to 1372 are higher than many currently active ones who started at 750 and play around 1000+- atm.

[vivid stirrup]

yeah true, we should get the fix that Johnny has been talking about soon, where 30+ days inactive accounts, or whatever the number is, will be removed from leaderboards, that will fix a lot i assume

[hardy minnow]

When is the snapshot for weekly leaderboards? I mean how many hours? thanks

[vivid stirrup]

scroll all the way to the top in the channel overview on the left
👈
there is an event tab. the snapshots are in there

[hardy minnow]

Awesome, time to grind all night, sitting at #1500ish huhu

[vague karma]

This month I made 70% of minimum wage on Brazil playing arena. Played around 50 hours. Maybe more. And it was fun.

Total of 1.8 ilv

[turbid osprey]

Thats amazing @vague karma

[vague karma]

Unbelievable, I remember playing competitive heroes of the storm with @primal flax and this would be a 2 in a year hard championship for a 2nd or 3rd place

[civic grotto]

Even though I said that arena rewards system is bad, the good thing is that we will see improvements in the future. I'm curious how the the team is gonna handle it. Right now players from 25-150 position are most affected. For example- Whity1-8😬 guy has 8 accounts, damn boi.

[onyx sundial]

500-1000 is almost non existant as inactive accounts take up from 570 onwards sitting at 1372 elo. 😅 lot of players missing out due to that

[civic grotto]

Yes! That aswell. One could argue that third of ILV rewards isn't even distributed to the players

[onyx sundial]

Yea seems like a very quick fix as well. Reduce elo of inactive players straight away brings up an extra 430 players into getting rewards

[civic grotto]

We don't know if it's easy fix, that's the problem. All that we know is, wait and have patience..

[onyx sundial]

Maybe they're waiting to be able to distribute rewards via layer 2 first as another 500+ L1 transactions could be like 10k in gas 😅

[hardy minnow]

Just want to appreciate the illuvium team and the community, from an avid fan watching the youtube videos way back 2022 and becoming a tester, I'm so excited of the upcoming contents, thank you everyone

[cyan olive]

I think a fair reminder from me, who has been in various rewards/competitive systems over last 10 years, every system has flaws and problems, won´t ever fit for everyone. This as first iteration, that is getting worked on as we speak after given feedback, is above average compared to what I know from e.g. blizzard in many of their titles.
So I think many of the very aggressive negative comments are rather displaced if we wanna compare to many of the normal standards in similar systems, but that is obv my personal opinion.

Even on the $-amount given, making as much as with this atm on a rather consistent basis with rather low time effort isn´t the norm in web 2 at least on most games, obv I am not hyper deep in all of web 3, having done web 2 esport/content until getting more involved with ILV for bit over a year now.

[elder ore]

If I want to "claim" rewards for my smurf, I need to change name (to not have any number and have "main" name), be eligble and have wallet linked?

[edgy bough]

why r council members calling overall community sentiment cry babies? rather than continually saying 'just be happy', just let the team make the changes that are desperately needed? let's note that you are one of the players currently benefitting from having multiple smurfs...
this is not a small thing, and if it wasn't for the overall constructive community discourse that has happened here and in #1207667103595892796 the changes would not be implemented as quickly.

for the most part we are all grateful to be playing the beta and its epic they are distributing rewards. but lets not label passionate community sentiment as 'aggressive' or 'negative'. it is in fact essential for the success of the DAO.
Cheers to @turbid osprey for ensuring this has moved forward, and @reef basalt for keeping the community updated with council plans. This is Gov V2 in action

[cyan olive]

only wallet linked as far as I know, doesn´t matter if X_1 or X_2 or X_3 is highest rank, they each need different wallet though

[elder ore]

can I use wallet from main account? that I unlink from main and link to higher smurf?

[cyan olive]

that is a question for @zenith mortar I think

[thick estuary]

@cyan olive Can u play magma pls 😄 Dont wanna think about counter deck exactly for u lol

[cyan olive]

I wanna farm the magma guys as well

xd

[thick estuary]

im too but cant win this maybe classic frost good

[cyan olive]

I tried

feels like you lose on even positioning vs magma

so it is ok but not great

[upbeat violet]

Can anyone help with the bug in the not being able to play anymore. It keeps on looking for opponents no longer connecting. Is there a debug procedure?

[west quartz]

for the love of god does anyone has a different team than the magma enchant that works ? i'll even take a 50-50

[vivid stirrup]

i dont call the overall community sentiment crybabies 😄 the overall community sentiment is very important, it has been heard by the team and it has been confirmed that we are getting changes to fix this problem. what i was talking about is some individuals after hearing that still complain harshly about this. calling the current reward system "disgusting".
i would never want to suggest to anyone to "just be happy, ignore the problems u see" i would want everybody tho to voice the problems only once, or atleast until the team recognizes them and promises to fix them. after that continues complaining with no new pointers is just not constructive anymore and is bad for the vibes in discord.

how am i benefiting from this blocked leaderboard slots? all my accounts would also move up if people ahead of me wouldn't block them. i am not in favor of this at all. i am in favor of smurf accounts being allowed to be played seriously to copy the competitive setting of major web2 titles, in order to be able to onboard the maximum amount of web2 players in the long run.

[cyan olive]

press b and report in the game noting "ghost bug" after describing your problem will help

[upbeat violet]

Ok

Done

[upbeat violet]

The bug’s been reported

[vivid stirrup]

now you may have to wait a bit to get unstuck. if it keeps being blocked you can always create a second account for free and play that in the meantime, takes 1minute

[upbeat violet]

Ok thx!

[edgy bough]

You may not be aware of how you are coming across then, im simply sharing how your message reads as a council member to the general community to just be happy and stop complaining. If certain peoples responses are coming across as complaints to you, then reply to them directly so you are being clear with your feedback.

I was stating anyone with 2+ smurfs (plus main) is working the system and you are one of those. Nothing inherently bad with that, and im not against smurfs in general or even people optimizing the current system we have been given. But something to consider when you are calling people cry babies for sharing feedback when it comes to rewards they believe they are eligible for.

Generally speaking i think we're on the same page with on-boarding players Paz, and my support for you and Phantom doesn't change of course. As i mentioned we have Patate to thank for getting this discussion moving forward and Scrubba from council for keeping us updated. Improvements are on the way!

[vivid stirrup]

No, I'm definitely not going to DM people to tell them how I feel about their messages. That sounds even more like censorship than what you have been suggesting I've been trying to do with my original post.

Again, nobody is calling anyone crybabies 😄
You are escalating things by suggesting that and saying I want them to just be happy and not complain.

Complaining = very good for beta - please keep doing this.
Complaining harshly after the team told you they are working on a solution for it = overall bad

I think a big problem I see with this discussion, and something that came up a lot in the last few days in talks, is that many people mix up their problem of smurfs existing in general, with the problem of them + inactive accounts blocking the leaderboard. This then leads to twisted conversations where both sides talk somewhat about different things.

I can definitely see how you interpreted my message differently. And how i could have worded it better. Thank you for the input, I will work on being more concrete so that does not happen again.

[edgy bough]

I'm not escalating anything and didn't say anything about DM, you called someone out for saying 'disgusting'...reply to their message here directly rather than tossing out a general statement. And you did call people cry babies? not sure why you're denying that.

This discussion really is not about smurfs in general, of course some people dont like smurfs in general but its more about the current system encouraging multiple smurfs and the reward distribution with innactive accounts etc. As i mentioned just before im personally not against smurfs in general.

We're all clear on the real issues and thanks to community discourse in #1207667103595892796 we're moving forward on those. Thank you for listening to my TED talk 🫡

[vivid stirrup]

im saying u escalate the conversation by rewording my original statement. saying someone is crying ain't the same as calling someone a crybaby. maybe that is the language barrier but my suggestion would be to keep refering to the original wording to avoid this.

yeah if there is anything else feel free to dm me but lets move this along

[marsh bloom]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

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[edgy bough]

mate i didnt re-word anything but if you dont get it you dont get it. i doubt there's a language barrier we both speak fluent english.

[vivid stirrup]

interpreted "reply to them directly" as in direct message - dm

u are right that directly replying to them in chat would be better and leaves less room for interpretation.

[vivid stirrup]

u didn't reword "cry" to "crybabies"? 🤔

[edgy bough]

seems like semantics to me, my point has been made have a good day man

[vivid stirrup]

yeah feels like we agree to disagree 😄 good day!

[worldly jolt]

I was worried that this discussion might explode but it Looks like you two are working it out with respectful words. Sometimes it feels like it’s a rare occurrence. Truly, Much appreciated.

[alpine dagger]

Share some enchanter counter decks ?

[vernal forum]

Is there a counter now?

[alpine dagger]

There is always counter to anything, just expted ppl to drop some active decks rn , that are played bcz i havent played for a week

air as energy supression is ench counter, i remember palying against full air teams, and getting clapped as ench

Would some1 actually share any decks here ?

[vivid stirrup]

i just uploaded a guide on enchanter magma shock if you like. in it's description i have a bunch of deck lists. but this one is the strongest right now i think

[tulip tiger]

Reset Warriors coming soon 👀 😎

[elder ore]

What is the point of having more than 1 smurf other than block leaderboard?

[turbid osprey]

Because of the new rule that makes your highest account eligible you are now incentivized to have as many as you can handle

This is a problem and the team is aware of it https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1207667103595892796

They will suggest a solution soon

[elder ore]

I know about it, its I just dont see a reason to have more than 1. I know about whole problematic, but if your main is lower than smurf, then you play main and vice versa. I dont see point in other smurf

[tulip tiger]

Smurfs are gross.

[turbid osprey]

1 to practice and minimum 2 to grind, the more you can handle to grind the better

Also when we get soft reset people that have multiple accounts have a giant advantage because they can use many 15 placing games streak

[tulip tiger]

Because top players are scared to lose so they would rather beat amateurs to boost their pride "testing " decks that are the meta. Lmao it's a joke to me.

Terrible for the community and new players

If your a top player you have friends to "test " with. A top 10bplayer creating a smurf to hope for higher rewards is gross imo.

[elder ore]

thanks, your answer is enough for me. I got the whole practice point, I do it too, since casuals are not working right now. but having multiple smurfs felt weird, now I know reasons 🙂

[cursive echo]

@cyan olive congratulations on the rankings you work so hard

[cyan olive]

thx

was rough, lost a game at 1992

but came back stronger

now I need to hope orace loses

xd

[supple beacon]

Dw I don't play more games, r2 is more than good enough for me. Did not expect to be that high coming into the week

[cyan olive]

that could be a good bait for me to quit playing on other accs 👀

[supple beacon]

Do what you want but the only way I play is if I go down to 3rd place, and I think only your other account could do that

[cyan olive]

👀

nah dw I am happy to go into next week with those 2

[tulip tiger]

Lol

Make another account maybe better luck next account.

[edgy bough]

lets gooooo

[cyan olive]

nah I am good, one to test 3 to tryhard is fine

[edgy flower]

you both on 1st, so i guess they will give you 7.5

[supple beacon]

No, they said there is a decimal difference in the backend when it is like that. If Viper is ahead, it means he is 0.x ahead of me

[warm rivet]

Paz i support you in your content and watch all of it. But this aint the way. I get your argument but its still not ok, the system is not ok atm, ppl are taking advantage and locking ppl out, and the argument is "Your rank is your rank". This is unsustainable and not ok, when i talk to friends trying to get them playing, telling them about rewards to get the extra motivation. they laugh at this like it is.
Im not crying about it, its what it is, just need to stress the urgent matter its acctualy is.

[dull wind]

I know right now the trend is to start another fresh account but maybe in the future the winning streak bonus system would be a nice thing to implement
#1209944296321454141 message

[vivid stirrup]

thank you for your feedback. i guess i really should have phrased it better as my point did not across as i hoped it would. 😅
i do think the system is "ok", it could be way better, and gladly soon it will be better as the team is working on solutions. will it ever be perfect while we are still in beta? i don't think so. the dev time going into it to make it perfect is just not available so shortly before beta. like ranking decay and higher level stuff like this.
i never ment to insinuate that people in general are crying, i was adressing the messages above my post.

luckily the team has heard us and is working on a quick fix. personally i don't think there will be too many more snapshots with the old system. but at this point we can just wait hope and pray to the god of soon 😛

[worn tree]

What timeframe is the snapshot?

[dull wind]

https://discord.com/events/760344898200666112/1207479089070608455/1210013083238400000

[worn tree]

Good thanks sir

[alpine dagger]

Soon 3 players to keep top 50 ranks with their 15 smurf accounts

So we can all stop playing till casual is not made to practice new decks , metas, tacitcs, and 1 account only allowed for ranked, so we can have healty leaderboard and mmr matchmaking , but w.e lets abuse the shit out of. For those shiny rewards

[civic grotto]

we are all at mercy of top 10 players

because they could make 10 smurfs each and take top 100 positions 😄

that would be interesting

[alpine dagger]

Yes

Lets make 10 acc each, father best 100 players and hold top 1000 places, bcz of our selfish reasons 😄

Gather*

Lets block 1000 slots in leaderboard, so we dont gather more new players looking for p2e games

What a community lol

dont blame players for being greedy, its the game that allows this kind of mmr manipulation

Where is the fire in your heart playing at top 10, where is the adrenaline, of climing if u have 3 more accounts that are ranked very nice

[junior geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-it-all-down-kiki-burn-kiki-fire-walk-away-fire-gif-10506929

[alpine dagger]

There is no adrenaline at all, lets just be at top , justbbcz we have time to play 15 games at 5 accounts in 7 days 😄

[quasi elm]

ladder snapshot in 1.5h?

[cyan olive]

secret tip for people playing atm 👀

[worldly jolt]

Just about

[faint plinth]

Do I have until the reset time (approximately 1 hour) to rank on the leaderboard?

[worldly jolt]

Yes.

[uncut comet]

@haughty lintel 10sec before round start game crash xD

[haughty lintel]

Could you play the round? It was close, 1 tount diff

[uncut comet]

wanted to reposition and one more augment , good it crashes round 6 and not all rounds before kappa ^^

[haughty lintel]

Sorry you lost points this way so close to the snapshot

[uncut comet]

np i think i wouldnt matter anyway to far away from 25 and not your fault just wanted to say

[haughty lintel]

Still not bad, this is the first week i made it into 25.. Just need a lucky streak 😅

[uncut comet]

gz your actually top 10 cant make it :S

[limber path]

where can i check how many games i played this week?

[haughty lintel]

Maybe, a few guys are playing for my spot though.. I am not brave enough to play to secure top10 😃

[haughty lintel]

illuvialmaster website has match history, it doesn't register all games though

[limber path]

hmm, problem is, there is not date -.-

[haughty lintel]

Yeah i get it, but i think there is no way to check exact number atm

[limber path]

okay, but thank you 🙂
should be over 15 😄

[zenith mortar]

Make sure your wallet is connected to your account as well

[limber path]

Sure, already got reward from first week 👍

[cyan olive]

And set pfps, makes leaderboard look nicer!

[zenith mortar]

If anyone doesnt have a PFP I will also personally gift you one to set one

[bronze spire]

use brave

[civic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-meme-winks-gif-4610597714899346197

spoiler alert for next meta build

[cyan olive]

Yeah the next spore thing, good for few hours and then -60%heal/clumsy augments see play gg

[limber path]

@zenith mortar, is there any API documentation for the match history? Could build a nice match history for web.

[worldly jolt]

I keep hearing Nothing officially released. But illuvialmaster.com has found something that they are using though.

[weary niche]

Do composite classes no longer benefit from primary class bonuses like they used to?

[zenith mortar]

Yeah we dont have API documentation yet

[worldly jolt]

They do not work the same as before.

[tulip tiger]

i dont have a pfp

[tulip tiger]

i want one with a tier 4 stage 2 background please

[zenith mortar]

It’s my choosing

lol

[tulip tiger]

ok i ment to say tier 5 stage 2 my bad

[arctic pumice]

Yaay, grinded up to top 100!

[turbid osprey]

Congratz!

[light thistle]

hi, the leaderboard will reset??

[worldly jolt]

No. It stays the same.

[calm steeple]

is the description on "Meteoric Onslaught" wrong and the first meteors are supposed to trigger on 14th second or first wave should come after 3 seconds like in the description, twice in a row now first wave came on 14th second.

[light thistle]

i hate mirrors matches

[zenith mortar]

Can you create a bug report in game, pressing B

[calm steeple]

sure, do i upload a video on youtube as well?

[zenith mortar]

Just the report should be enough, unless you want to. Videos are always helpful.

[calm steeple]

ok

[granite osprey]

payday

[crystal aurora]

ty ilv ❤️

[zenith mortar]

Week 3 Arena Leaderboard Rewards Distributed (Snapshot on <t:1707955200:F>) :

@worldly jolt

[granite osprey]

98th 0.3 nice

I bought T1 land.

[alpine dagger]

Where do u buy land ?

Trove , imx?

[bronze spire]

i think imx marketplace yea

[crystal aurora]

hm did u buy for your land?

[bronze spire]

i got mine on the initial sale

[timber wasp]

How do you check if you think you were eligible for rewards this week but not on the list?

[hardy minnow]

Since the snapshot completed earlier, starting today up until the next snapshot, I just need to play at least 15 ranked games right?

[bronze spire]

the list above is for the week before the most recent snapshot

[bronze spire]

yep! as long as you have 25 total already played

[timber wasp]

Thanks missed that. So not today's snapshot

[spring marsh]

snapshot already taken I guess

[bronze spire]

Yea correct, todays snapshot leadboard still has to be finalised ect so won’t show it till about same time next week

[spring marsh]

2 games in a row I am playing versus 100-200 elo players (I have 800)
Any guesses on how much Elo I could have lost? (in case of lose)

[half tinsel]

like 35 elo :))

what's your ingame name ?

i can come online to match against you if u want 😄

[cyan olive]

You can cancel your Que at around 45 sec and your opponents will be within 200ish range

[half tinsel]

nice guides viper. go play arena, i need to watch something 😄

[spring marsh]

ty

[cyan olive]

will take half a day off and spend some time with my mum today, maybe I stream in the evening
back on regular hours tmr though, I think I can only realy stream late afternoon-night eu, as before that it doesn´t seem like many high elo players are online and I can´t find games 😅

[spring marsh]

whats your twitch username, want to follow you

[cyan olive]

viper_ilv

on everything incl yt/x etc.

[wise scarab]

Hi, to whom can I reach out to, if I´m missing in the list? I was taking notes how many games I played (reached minimum games) and my wallet was linked but I´m missing in the list.
Edit: I know that it´s the snapshot from last week

[dark scaffold]

that would be me (thru support ticket #❓❓〕support )

[spring marsh]

Is there are any ways to check which decks top players using? I am only 900 elo currently and can't face them to check it by myself haha

[haughty lintel]

The way that comes to my mind is watching streamers, my favorite is viper_ilv, he is also rank 1 at the game and usually shares his decks with everyone.. You can also check yt

[cursive echo]

do you play anymore?

[haughty lintel]

do you have the counter ready? 😄

we can play if you want, i am not in the queue

[cursive echo]

I promise you no I haven't changed anything I like confronting you )

[haughty lintel]

I don't mind, you can play whatever you want.. This matchup should be a lot in my favor

Let's go

[haughty lintel]

I love playing against you too btw, just not when bird is playable, you are too good at it 😅

[cursive echo]

gg i stop lol

[haughty lintel]

Yeah gg, it's the matchup.. 0 skill from my side

[worn tree]

Empaths and fighters are seeing no play at all in the meta. Rogues are situational, but quite decent. Psions are only played in clusters of 7. However, everyone is playing bulwarks. I know quantum nullifier is bugged and shit, but I still think bulwark is way too OP even if QN worked properly. The team buff resist is way too good.

With 3 Bw, it makes all other illuvials 18% harder to kill. 3 fighters make all other illuvials to kill 10% faster. That is not simetrical. Of course resist and as are not comparable stats, but you know what I mean.

Team most likely will wait to fix QN before make a decision. My forecast tho is that Bw is still too strong and the general team buff should be reduced in 3/5/7 stages.

[worldly jolt]

I just realizing that I’m not sure which affinity the ranger uses for hyper. Is it the weapon affinity or the bonded affinity? Or even both?

[sand tusk]

Is there a list of rewarded rangers for week 3 ?

[gentle bronze]

weapon

[west plume]

@ebon flume Viper video?

First time trying this build

[worldly jolt]

But it’s the bond if I don’t equip a weapon?

[gentle bronze]

yessir

actually I dont know for sure but I am extremely confident thats how it works at least

There are very few instances where that made sense back when I used to play so I cant remember exactly but again pretty sure

[west plume]

Lol

my ass was handed to me

[ebon flume]

Always viper video XD

[vernal forum]

It is. The bond actually makes the ranger that affinity, so they get hyper of the affinity they are. Ranger bonded with scarabok is earth ranger and will hyper off fire x2 and nature x 1.

Ranger with water weapon is water and hypers as water. Bond ranger with water weapon to Scarabok - Ranger is mud with water base and hypers as water.

[alpine dagger]

Is it a little bit unlogical that Monkier is MUD, but mud is giving some energy per attack, but monkier is maybe only Unit that doesnt have energy bar or omega :D... Maybe do this MuD : takes energy from units hit by mud unit, not giving energy to mud unit itself 😄

I get it, mid is part water, water is energy regen affinity, but what mud units we have, predator ? Doesnt need mich mana, monkier, doesnt need mana at all

Mana - energy

[safe valve]

I bet this was only Made Like that to mock @umbral oracle

[alpine dagger]

Make monkier get his energy pool, and some some slightest omega, like gain 10% attack speed for next 5 s at least xd

So his affinity isnt that ironic for him

Or msybe just put attacks steal 2 energy per attack

😄

[proud steeple]

Can't you fix the bug of not being matched with anyone forever?
I can't fight anyone for over a week.

[worldly jolt]

I’d think that monkier with its hit speed mechanic would be too op if it also had an affinity bonus that paired well with the it’s hit mechanic.

But someone else probably knows better than me.

[worldly jolt]

Apparently not. Sorry man.

[proud steeple]

Is it safe to say that this bug is still being addressed?
I only touch the game on my days off, so I don't mind if other people have priority.

[worldly jolt]

Yeah still being addressed. Do you have a ticket number for it?

[proud steeple]

What is a ticket number?
Is it this one?

[proud steeple]

Or is it a name or something?

[worldly jolt]

---

Hey guys, we are collecting information on all users affected by session not being closed for them from before the patch.
If you are trying to find a match and you see "Cancel" button greyed out, please make a bug report from inside the game by clicking "B" and title it "Stuck in a ghost session"

Sounds like you need to talk to support still. They need to know your account is one of the bugged ones.

And then when it’s fixed they can let you know.

[proud steeple]

I see, I missed this announcement.
Thank you very much for your help. I'll try to report it.

[alpine dagger]

Ill give you tip, if you see greyed cancel and u cant do anything about it , jut press BACK in left up corner , it just fixes bug for me 😄

I think bug happens, bcz ppl cancel their matchmaking que

Bcz they wanna low amount of time lobby que, bcz they get more fair matches

[hot pond]

What is the percentage of MP you’re getting back for selling an illuvial?

[hoary mason]

Is there a place to see what the synergys do other than the site?

[unborn parcel]

Is there any way to fix the game getting stuck inbetween rounds on arena?

[cyan olive]

75%

[hot pond]

are augments fully refunded or also with 75%?

[cyan olive]

Also 75

[hot pond]

thanks

[worldly token]

@ why_my_name_profane gg! that is a great deck you have there

[proven coral]

any1 got that verdant-behemoth build they dont mind sharing

[edgy flower]

i find a way to play my deck from yesterday, and now wake up and lose 0 5 to SA in mirrorsa coz now every1 play it, so you all can have a link looks like its almost the same as frost meta
https://play.illuvium.io/team-builder/a70bd11b-fdb1-4743-aef3-bc4767d1358d

[cyan olive]

👀

[silver merlin]

How long does it roughly take for support to react? Already made a ticket beginning of the week still haven't heard anything(ghost session)

Will reinstalling help or is it a account thing?

[turbid osprey]

For the ghost session the best way is to report in game

Support recently take ~5 days

[silver merlin]

I did both

But oke guess I'll wait

[turbid osprey]

Maybe @jetski can help give an approximation for the next ghostbuster tour

[silver merlin]

Another week of no rewards (I'm noob anyway but still)

[proven coral]

https://tenor.com/view/ghostbusters-beautiful-slime-cigar-ray-gif-16279326

[dark scaffold]

try to log in and find a match 👀

[turbid osprey]

I knew the tag would work

[dark scaffold]

i felt someone tried to reach me 🤣

[turbid osprey]

Instant

[silver merlin]

Will do in a bit

[hardy minnow]

ggwp

[dark scaffold]

a 5 days you said! you are totally muted for 3 seconds 💔

[turbid osprey]

Via email

[silver merlin]

It worked! or at least there is no grey cancel thingy anymore dont have time to play games now. thx!

[cursive echo]

I really like this new meta

[edgy flower]

and i dont ahahahaha

[cursive echo]

so many game options thanks for the deck

@west quartz I'm coming back this evening for deck training

[edgy flower]

welcome, you can find erc-20 for donations at my twitch description xd

[hoary mason]

can someone share the rewards for arena?

[zenith mortar]

https://illuvium.io/news/rangers-get-ready-for-the-leaderboard-rewards

Thats the blog about it and as for previous winners you can check pinned messages here

[alpine dagger]

Brah strongest Jotun on planet

[glacial shell]

I'm trying to understand something about Omega power damage. For instance an Illuvial deals (125*OP) damage on their omega, I feel like I"m misunderstanding this as the Omega power is 100, then they are doing 12,500 damage?

[alpine dagger]

Idk bro, i think its base dmg + omega poqer

[glacial shell]

oh ok, so maybe the (125*OP) isn't multiplication but addition?

[alpine dagger]

Guuess so, bcz if that was multiplier it would wipe whole enemy team in 1 spell

[topaz lake]

The default Omega Power is 100. So in the case above that translates to 125 damage. If you have 200 Omega Power, then it becomes 250 damage (125 * 2x).