🎮〕illuvium-arena

[junior geyser]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

early mornings getting everyone in arena LOL

[tame prairie]

It is Earth Rhamphyre build.
I ask about mirror build.

[dark vine]

mirror = the opponent plays the same deck as you are therefore it is called "mirror" because both sides play the same

[vale coral]

https://tenor.com/view/mirror-monday-morning-shocked-dog-funny-dog-gif-22203011

[tame prairie]

oh, got it. tnx

[wheat sable]

PFFFF

I am so baddd

[junior geyser]

lol

[wheat sable]

sombody has to be last

https://tenor.com/view/will-gif-2553459115951539861

[warped ocean]

Bro this bug that the round doesnt start is annoying XD

always happens at most exciting end rounds

[inner oracle]

Hi All,
I want to provide feedback after playing 100+ games in Arena and showing it to 5+ of my friends who are all gamers. I have shared the same feedback within the game - B button. The most common piece of feedback (that I share as well) is that

• There is no clear connection between Caster->Target!

It is unclear when an illuvial casts, who is the target and how does that spell affect the target. Now take a good example - Rhamphyre casting his ultimate has a clearly denotated area in red and damage is visible. Another good example - when the phyllis fishes cast their beam that is clear. BUT there is a set of illuvials that using the words of my friend "are awkwardly shaking their asses" and he couldn't guess what their spell is supposed to do and who is the target. Compare to the verdant root illuvials - after so many games I still have no idea which illuvial casts those roots without reading the description. And a third example - when a healer heals 1 teammage or heals within a "medium area" , there should be some white blinking of the illuvial that is the Target of the healing or the area. For example a healer can cast an angel that is moving within 1 second on top of another illuvial and both the Caster and the Target light up in white to show healing spell.

Now what is the effect of that - when you get to advanced level you want to edit slight positioning so that a spell area captures just a few hexes in each direction, or you want your illuvial to switch the target just before casting its spell, and without a clean annotation who is the current target you cannot guess if your set-up is working or not.

To summarise, feedback is that each spell should have a clear Caster and Target highlight and some effect moving between them

[worldly token]

@tall maple game froze for me - same for you?

[naive mantle]

Is gyro ultimate bugged? I swear sometimes it does 0 damage without getting stunned or any interuptions

[worldly token]

hmmm.. froze two times in a row.. is it me? xD @brave tundra is the game going for you?

[brave tundra]

not going, game dosent start

[worldly token]

hmm okay

[brave tundra]

game restarts

[worldly token]

yeah I restart too, good idea. Although I can move the drone and do emotes

[brave tundra]

....sorry man

[worldly token]

had no time left to place everything xD

but now we know.. immediately restart

[brave tundra]

yeah you should do it

[worldly token]

sad though... worked my way up for way too long and now I lost two games in a row because of that 😄
does anyone know: will the leaderboard be reset before the payout starts for top players?

[brave tundra]

no idea

[vivid stirrup]

we don't know anything yet except that they are coming in the near future 😄

but if i had to guess i'd say they will do rewards without resetting

nick hinted at this a little bit aswell in several channels, if i remember correctly

but there will be probably some requirement to it like: minimum 25 games played, so that the 5-0 smurf accounts from before the mmr system rework are not eligible

[worldly token]

@brave tundra gg the rematch went well 😄

[brave tundra]

gg

[worldly token]

alright, thanks for the info! wish i didnt test that much and played more meta then 😂

[vivid stirrup]

same 😄 you can still create a second account tho and play serious on it!

just gotta get some games in before the rewards i guess

[junior geyser]

@worn tree gg's homie

[worn tree]

GG brother, trying some offmeta shit, costed me like 200 elo lol

I will have to create a secondary account

[junior geyser]

that -/+ 25 was massive, im sorry

[worldly token]

how to do that? can I connect a second account to the same wallet?

[low comet]

Finally... @summer frigate

[worldly token]

or do I need a second wallet for a second account?

[unkempt cliff]

No

You can have multiple accounts in a wallet

[worn tree]

Don't worry my man, I have had like 8 games like that LOL!

Back to being a metaslave... ahahaha It's just I want to try a lot of stuff but with the current pool of illuvials a lot of metas are completely unfeasible.

[echo yew]

Any news on an expected patch

[junior geyser]

this cant be real life.. is it him?

[junior geyser]

the 6-hour grind paid off today boys

[formal crown]

Damn guess making a deck you only get 1 day of grinding it while nobody else is playing it then next day you get on everyone is just playing your deck against you 😭

[junior geyser]

yeah i feel that. I was around 1600 points at the beginning of today, which was around 1200th place

W-22/L-4 for the day

[summer frigate]

@vernal forum give me back my points bro 🥲

[summer frigate]

😔

[vernal forum]

spoken like a true xborg

[autumn night]

Hello, how does the weekly payout for the arena mode leaderboard work? Pays up to position 5000? How do I see when I get paid per week?

@civic grotto ?

[civic grotto]

There are no rewards still

And hopefully they will be implemented once the PvP is better balanced

[sharp wagon]

thanks for the feedback!

[native pilot]

Is Arena ever going to be more TFT style where you build your deck/board as you go and can do something different every game instead of being a full deck based game? Or is the deck building hearthstone/TCG style the direction? Thanks, enjoying it when I have a deck I can copy so far!

[uncut comet]

pleaseeeee couldnt it be 3 points more i just wanted to stop at 2k

from rank 50 down to 250+ and back to 31 and now cause of the 3 points prob again back to 250 xD

[worn tree]

@junior geyser we meet again sir

[jolly hearth]

anyone else having problems to connect to epic store?

[junior geyser]

gg's brother

[worn tree]

Ggs!!!!

[shadow lion]

yea

[edgy bough]

Nicely done! Did u grind same deck for 6hrs? I think the long sessions are crucial to climb ladder

[junior geyser]

yes, same deck and I agree, once you find a solid one, grinding for as long as possible is key because meta will change and counters will come fast

[edgy bough]

Yea makes sense. I’ve been just playing in short spurts and it takes so much longer. Looking forward to playing more in January

[jolly hearth]

Does anyone know whether the boosters will be consumables in the final game?

[junior geyser]

i work from home so it's sort of a cheat code

[edgy bough]

I do too but haven’t been capitalizing. This convo has changed my mind 🤣

[junior geyser]

YW good sir

[jolly hearth]

I hope this game won't cause an economical breakdown...

[junior geyser]

i do, imagine the player base/token price

[edgy bough]

Gaming thrives in economic breakdown

[jolly hearth]

that, or the other way round...

[edgy bough]

Olmops get it

[scenic maple]

wassup how much is 30 hexes?

[edgy bough]

about 3 illuvials in space maybe? the hexes are tiny

[worldly jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-frog-illuvium-frog-meme-thug-life-glasses-frog-life-gif-25591793

See the blinking area of like 30 different hexes underneath this frog? Thats the size of a hex. Then 30 hexes is counted in a straight line from the middle spot of the illuvial.

[eternal kestrel]

anyone else deal with this?: if you dont make your team fast enough or save your progress , it randomly wipes back to last save state, or if you were making it from scratch wipes it out! facepalm

[worldly jolt]

I’ve had that once

[eternal kestrel]

as a stoner it sucks . keeps wiping me....

[reef basalt]

Happens to me too. I just save every so often to avoid it

[eternal kestrel]

i think i finally learned my lesson. maybe they dont know about it though. well actually itd be nice if this was in the client

[smoky python]

Team knows about it

[cursive echo]

@candid peak Finally😆

[unreal siren]

Are there just a small number of people in Ascendant? I just got matched against the same person 5x in a row...

[worldly jolt]

Sometimes. You can try waiting a couple of minutes before starting your next search for a match.

[unreal siren]

Yup, that worked, though after that match got re-matched with the first one again....6 out of 7 lol. Not my night...

[pastel estuary]

for the xmas emote giveaway,should i play casual or rank?

[worldly jolt]

The announcement says either one. #📣〕announcements message

[sturdy tiger]

there's an Xmas giveaway?

[pastel estuary]

so number of games not number of wins

[worldly jolt]

Correct.

[worldly jolt]

Check the announcement that I linked to above

[pastel estuary]

anyway i can get track how many games have i played?

my 1st win, just casual. are there any bots in arena? like if you are looking for opponent for so long?

[scenic maple]

what immune does? i get no damage at all? or just physical? if i been hit by dualephs omega and get immune do I take damage?

[worldly jolt]

I don’t think so. Some people have waited for more than 10 minutes.

[worldly jolt]

Immune does not accept negative effects. It still takes damage.

[worldly jolt]

Try illuvialmaster

[pastel estuary]

i see.might just be lucky to find opponents in about 3 mins.their name are kinda sus to be bot though lol.

[pastel estuary]

is the link on any channel or something?

[old mantle]

any word about rework of arena?

[worldly jolt]

Maybe in #1169004294473793597 or #🎨〕community-content probably not.

It’s illuvialmaster.com

[worldly jolt]

Do you mean like a balancing patch or something more significant?
This was the task list earlier this month. #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[pastel estuary]

how to have a pfp on this btw?

[wheat moth]

What is the main criterion for how many points you receive for a win or how many are deducted?

[old mantle]

yeah way more significant, but seems like theyll continue puttin money in this approach

that clearly doesnt work

[inner orbit]

I believe first matches are sort of placement ones and so those first 5-10 games have more impact and they can either win or lose 100+ points, then after some games it should normalize to 15-20 per match if the opponent has somewhat the same elo, otherwise if the elo is way too different then it is different for example if you have 1500 and the oponent 1800 if you win you might win something like 20-30 points, but if the opponent wins he would win like 15-10 points. Thats what I have seen, I don-t know the whole formula for the ELO calculations

[warped ocean]

Bro round always freezes at the 7th round

smh

[unkempt cliff]

I think it’s a bug, I couldn’t play last night

[pastel estuary]

how do i change my initial deck??

[unkempt cliff]

create new team, name the build, you can also check for various options to add to the custom build

[wheat moth]

Now with the beta I have no problems as it is but for open beta there has to be something fair.

You can hardly make up the points you lost at the beginning. That's the way it is at the moment.

At the beginning when open beta is played usually nobody has illuvials. These have to be earned.

If you then play in the arena with your Illuvials, it has to be mandatory that people who join much later still have the chance to play their way up.

[dark vine]

What do you guys think about a game mode in which we combine the survival rng deck with ascendant.
I think randomizing a 50 card deck each time a game starts which is used by both sides will have the needed rng while generating/keeping a skill based game.
Also it is easier to start playing because the deck building process requires a lot of experience and knowledge.
Since both parts of the mode already exist it shouldn't be too much work.
Regarding open beta the requirement could be to own at least 80-100% of each tier (augments, gear, Illuvials) or something like that

Wanted to suggest this weeks ago but somehow forgot about that..

[brazen quarry]

Could be fun

[dark vine]

that mode would at least prevent the copy & paste/flowchart behaviour we have atm and offer a lot of knowledge based decisions since you need to evalute quickly what parts of the deck can be easily countered, if you have the correct augments for the offered carries and stuff like that. Furthermore every game would be interesting to watch since every game is unique.

[smoky python]

A randomized sort of game mode like that is certainly something for the future as a side game but not as the main game.
We have to get our main e-sport competitive game format going first before we do anything else.

[dark vine]

that mode is meant to be competitive... I mean I guess we can agree that the current arena has major problems regarding competitiveness

[smoky python]

Deck building isnt a bad thing its a feature

[dark vine]

tft is randomized and competitive

[smoky python]

TFT isn't a deckbuilder

[dark vine]

true, but is a deckbuilder better?

I would say it isn't

[smoky python]

Now thats certainly a question to ask

Would a traditional TCG style deckbuilder with combat being autobattler be better than just a TFT autochess clone? Maybe, maybe not. But I think both would be better than what we currently have

Also this isn't just some complaining about the game because we are losing type of thing. I'm certainly one of the top players in this game and I know you are high ranked. As well as many of my high rankin friends all feel the same way

[dark vine]

isn't the traditional tcg deckbuilder + autobattle what we have atm? Maybe I just don't get that point

[smoky python]

In a traditional TCG you dont start with all the cards in your hand on round 1.
You'll draw maybe 5 on turn 1 and then next turn you'll draw another one

Right now we draw 28 cards on turn 1

[dark vine]

ah I see, true.

[smoky python]

That way every game is going to be slightly different based on what you draw

And on what your opponent draws

But you're still building the deck and controlling what is in it

[dark vine]

Yeah, I guess most higher ranked agree on the issues we face atm. I don't want to complain either but I saw a lot of people pointing out the issues the game has but I haven't seen many ideas to solve these issues in the near future (especially from devs)

Just wanted to offer a solution which shouldn't take too much time to try out since both parts a basically coded

[smoky python]

I've given my feedback before on the card draw style system as a potential solution.
I think also a draft format (dont know how familiar you are with card games) where say you choose 1 card from 3 random cards to put in your deck, and then repeat 28 times could be a future format thats fun

[dark vine]

yeah, especially the draft (1 out of 3) would be a good solution but the issue with that could be that the games take too much time :/

[smoky python]

So basically you would do that and then use that deck X amount of times

[dark vine]

if both sides just get x random cards (both sides get the same deck) it is a question who understands the strength and weaknesses of that deck better/faster

[smoky python]

Its more of a format for a "buy in tourney system"
Where you pay X Fuel, Draft your deck and then maybe try to get 7 wins before you get 3 losses

The more wins you get the more fuel back you get

I think your idea is fine as well. More of a "Sealed" from Magic the Gathering.
Each player gets a random assortment of cards and has to make the best deck from it type of thing

[dark vine]

as long as both sides get the same 3 cards every time that could work otherwise we could get the same issue as gu (kicked from epic for that gamble mode)

[smoky python]

AFAIK it is back on Epic

[dark vine]

oh, nice, nvm

[smoky python]

But also once we have our own launcher thats not as big of a problem

[dark vine]

true, but for marketing still better to have that exposure

[native pilot]

Card draw would add a bit more spice to it - I guess it’s about what kind of game they want it to be. Right now it feels like there is little to no variability, which is good for competitive, but personally I don’t find it engaging like TfT, or even deck based game like hearthstone

[smoky python]

It's not even good for competitive though. And if its not fun either then it loses both parts

[dark vine]

at least we would reward knowledge, the ability to adept and use versatile strategies.
At the moment we have holidays but next year it would be definitely nice to hear what the team thinks about this and how they want to solve these problems.

[worn thicket]

as for myself i'm still convinced that if we had like 13+ illuvials/deck rather than the 8 illuvials+17 augments meta we have now there would already be way more decision making to do and mind games involved making the game already 10x more fun

[smoky python]

Very possible

I'm almost certain it would be 'better' than what we have now.
Would it be good enough?

[dark vine]

not to sure about that. During inferno #3 I played a 14 Illuvial deck and had notes on what I want to play in which situation... Could have just handed these to another player and the result would have been the same

[smoky python]

Yup but its still 1 extra step

[dark vine]

btw. not as prepared anymore because that was quite some work

[smoky python]

which is better than what we have now

[pastel estuary]

5 mins match making

[half ore]

Hello everyone

[worn thicket]

yeah but how does that do when you face another 14 illuvials deck? what if you opponent had bulwarks but then either the option to play invokers, or Rhamphyre or Arcanite or any mix of all these? would your flowchart still be that linear?

[smoky python]

You're creating extra branches which is always a positive when it comes to decision making

[dark vine]

agree it would branch out a little and maybe we get a 50/50 situation in the end but that would still feel like tossing a coin against an equally prepared player

[worn thicket]

mind games aren't tossing a coin. any Pokémon or Poker pro player will agree

[pastel estuary]

10 mins looking for opponent. dead game?

[worn thicket]

yes we all here trying to fix it rather than playing cauz playing is boring rn

[pastel estuary]

what rank are you?

[worn thicket]

depends on the days

sometimes i'm 2k sometime i'm 1600, depends on what decks i been playing xD

[dark vine]

not sure about pokemon but at least in poker we have math/statistics behind these "mind games". Most "mind games" aren't really mind games but can be based on probabilities alone. Only if you really know that your opponent knows these probabilities as well you can start to say he will go for the strategy that should have a 60% wining chance and therefor you can give him a 90% chance instead of a 50% to go for strategy x and this information finally starts to have impact on your decision but most mind games don't go that far.

but yeah, that would be better...

[dark vine]

agree on this 🙂

[smoky python]

Yup haha

[zenith mortar]

@vale coral

im disappointed in you

[vale coral]

haha

[still sand]

yooo gm fam

[pastel estuary]

why game suddenly stopped?waiting for 10mins already

[fallow basalt]

why doesn't the grilla's statue take damage on overtime?

[worldly token]

I had the same problem yesterday. when restarting the game immediately you can rejoin the match

[hot pond]

I had the stupidest bug yesterday where my equipped weapon simply disappeared in the battle. It was just gone both from ranger and my deck 😂

[ebon gyro]

I had played few pvp. I used few illuvium and augments. Is it possible to see how much damag an illuvial is doing and how high the current states are?

[brazen quarry]

Yes

[scarlet spindle]

There are tabs in that left synergy window to show you dmg, healing, shielding, hyper.. and during battle you can right click an illuvial to see its stats changing with buffs and stacks etc

[pastel estuary]

anyone playing?

[bleak escarp]

Anyone else dealing with Opponent's team being invisible?

Two games in a row for me now.

[onyx sundial]

Imagine if there was a legendary augment that makes an illuvial invisible for the entire game. just a ghost walking round doing damage haha

[onyx sundial]

Is there a way to see our past matches?

[worldly jolt]

They must have gotten a super augment.

[worldly jolt]

Not yet. illuvialmaster.com does have some match history though.

[bleak escarp]

This cockadoodledoo meta is... hilarious

[zenith bough]

Not here

[warped ocean]

Can we unbind without removing illuvial?

[sacred finch]

No

[warped ocean]

I suggest implementing an indicator when augments do their thing. Like when it gives 5 OP to furthest ally after losing 25% hp, when it hits there should be some sort of indicator as to which illuvial got it, maybe a highlight or effect to illuvial

[late lagoon]

@zenith bough im not queuing anymore enjoy lol 😄 I tried waitign after the second so we didnt play again

but guess u did the same

[zenith bough]

I have no issue loosing ranks. 😄 Want to learn the matchup

no worries

[vivid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-no-gif-21780817

[vivid stirrup]

this is a priority for the team for launch. to give things like this very obvious visual indicators! 🦾

[uncut comet]

someone know how "on omega" augments work on monkier , does he get the effect then every 2nd auto attack?

[formal crown]

I dont believe it is an "omega" so it would never activate

[uncut comet]

was thinking the same but would like to know for sure dont wanna lose lp trying it xD

[vivid stirrup]

i havent tested it either as it wouldnt make much sense to activate omega without casting omega 😄 if thats the case it would be a bug

[ocean junco]

Who is GodOfPB3? Does he have youtube channel

[brazen quarry]

He is not a streamer

[vivid stirrup]

you can check out my channel where i have a few videos beating him. "expert guide" is one of them

[uncut comet]

makes sense i just though maybe the 2nd auto count as an omega

[vivid stirrup]

yeah i can see your point. im 99% sure it doesnt and 100% sure it's not supposed to

[ocean junco]

Okay. What is your channel, are you Illuvination?

[vivid stirrup]

yes sir!

[vivid stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7pbbUiqAQk

the deck is out dated by now, but my recent videos cover current meta decks

but the insight you will gain by watching the video will make it worthwhile your time 🙂

[ocean junco]

Yeah. This is where i watched you faced godofpb3. And if i remember, he's the first winner of the unofficial tournament. So him being a YouTuber has crossed my mind.

[vivid stirrup]

if you are looking for the best player in illuvium on youtube, i think viper is the place to go.

[sand tusk]

Kinda lost in the meta atm tho

[tight swift]

ahh

[vivid stirrup]

restart the que

helps most of the time

[vivid stirrup]

might be because he didn't play for a week around xmas ^^

[sand tusk]

Yup and he thinks there are too many choices atm so you can't play "strong"

Kinda agree
Really hardcore to grasp the meta atm, between the toxic/earth inferno and enchanter thing going on

Don't like it at all
Preferred the Scoriox meta

[vivid stirrup]

yeah im loving meta atm, we have so many viable teams

altho im just one tricking one team 😄 but its good that people have options to play

[sand tusk]

Yes and no it s like someone is creating a full counter team of the flavor of the day before and it becomes the meta

I guess arcanite will come back at some time when the circle will be full

[wicked cloak]

i love dc 3 rounds in a row and losing 32 points against a gold 3

[raven obsidian]

Rhamphyre getting stunned at the peak of its omega is the biggest L

[zenith bough]

If you couldn’t reconnect game was probably already over

[pale star]

how to see leaderboard

[obtuse summit]

Hey folks. there was something about rewarding high ranked players, can someone ping me for that? cant find it or remember what it was 😄

[tall maple]

My game just got stuck on waiting for the opponent. Is there anything to do in this case besides quit? - I'll be forfeiting a match I'm winning 1K to 105...

Also, any chance this is an exploit? It would be really annoying if people could crash a match if they are getting rekt.

[tropic moon]

what can happen during the rhamphyre mega to not deal any damage?

[tropic moon]

i always just restart the game as fast as possible and you can get back in... problem is you have to do it in every round

[sacred finch]

Stun can interrupt the omega

[tropic moon]

kinda weird that someone can stun it while in air but okay...

[civic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-steve-gif-25464260

@edgy flower

[edgy flower]

whaaat?

[civic grotto]

Some guy renamed his acc like this lol XD

[edgy flower]

he should understand that it will taunt to emote him harder kekw

[winter dagger]

How often is everyone else getting the frozen game when the round is supposed to start, feels like 1/5 games at the moment impossible to climb rank with this shit

[reef basalt]

Restart the client when that happens you can reconnect and place units. It takes me 2 or 3 restarts before the game syncs if I get the bug on the first 1 or 2 rounds

[umbral glen]

Are the emotes we're trying to earn going to be NFTs or not, does anyone know?

[worldly jolt]

I’ll read the announcement

This means nft.

[umbral glen]

I figured it did, I just wanted to confirm.

[lusty bridge]

Does anyone know what happened to the great affinities page on illuvimaster? They simplified it and it used to be way better.

[ebon moat]

Anyone know who sometimes the game just hangs and while saying your opponent is ready to fight?

But also says wait for opponent

[gentle bronze]

Can anyone send me a link to the water/shock/bulwark/envoker team to copy/paste?

[worldly jolt]

Yeah it's a bug or connection issues of some kind. You can try to close the game and open again and automatically rejoin the match. Don't wait for much more than 10 extra seconds I'd say.

[worldly jolt]

I'd send you something that I was working on a few weeks ago but it's definitely bad. I probably deleted it already.

[gentle bronze]

Honestly I just dont want to have to build it in the team builder myself when I could just copy/paste 😂

[ebon moat]

Ya I've just been exiting and restarting. Thanks for letting me know its a bug

[proper horizon]

Zeb 😄 good games

[lusty bridge]

Is there a way to reset the board view to the default after making changes to the viewing zoom/angle?

[pastel estuary]

how much are the ilv rewards for leaderboard?

[worldly jolt]

Nothing at this point

[worldly jolt]

Press 1,2,3 for preset camera angles

[proper horizon]

how long before the changes are reflected on leaderboard ? It says that I need to play to be on leaderboard - but I played quite few matches. My wallet is linked already for 1+ year and Im playing via Epic games

[pastel estuary]

any rewards?

[worldly jolt]

No rewards right now. Nothing yet. Oh I guess there are the participation emotes. #📣〕announcements message

[worldly jolt]

Usually it's 5 to 6 games before ranked. But maybe it's up to 10.

You can check match history on illuvialmaster.com

[proper horizon]

thanks sir! 🙂

[edgy bough]

GG @hollow orbit 🥇 @edgy flower 🥈 for Inferno #5 🔥 2024 is gonna be fun 🚀

[pastel estuary]

safe to connect wallet in there?lol

[warped ocean]

is the Dust blind not working? It doesnt give Blind text after omega

[compact parcel]

space bar

[worn thicket]

@coarse echo @topaz lake is this a known bug?

[warped ocean]

When illuvial goes Hyper, and it says for example Fighters gain whatever, is that only for those who are actual fighter class or also includes those who are like stage 3 class but are also a fighter

Like if an illuvial is a Berserker Fighter would that illuvial get the fighter hype or is it for those who are pure Fighter

[regal marsh]

My Ranger losses his bond of i put on a weapon . Is it common ?

[reef basalt]

Its only for the unit that goes hyper. Since its fighter dominant (in this example) it would get a fighter bonus. If you chose a different dominant trait it would get a bonus based on that class

[reef basalt]

Yes because you get the affinity and class of the weapon plus the bond. It becomes a composite

[regal marsh]

Both were fire. So that becomes magma ?

It seems it's inferno

[worn thicket]

read this for classes (like Arcanite)
illuvialmaster.com/classes

and this for affinities (like magma)
illuvialmaster.com/affinities

@hollow citrus can we really not whitelist Illuvialmaster/Illuvidata please?

[potent topaz]

nice 1 @vernal forum

😅

[topaz lake]

Not a bug, it gives Blind at the starting location. In Gyro's case, it only affects the units where it starts the cast, and not during the omega or end location.

[frail mural]

Game keeps freezing up on me either right before a round is about to start og right after the round is done... super annoying 😫

Third time today out of like 12games.. any idea what may be causing it?

[worn thicket]

ohhhh ok

[frail mural]

Losing valueable points here..! 😅

[edgy flower]

Yeah but it's still beta, so we let them know about it and wait :/

[edgy flower]

Wanna a new patch with new units to build new things : )

[dark scaffold]

@next flame GL xD

[next flame]

My good friend we will see who is in luck!

[frail mural]

Have you experienced the same thing?

[edgy flower]

I lost 1 game in the tournament coz last round was all freez and I couldn't reconnect fast enough to play it 🙂

[frail mural]

Aiit

[dark scaffold]

GG haha

[next flame]

GG bro was a fun one!

[reef basalt]

If both are fire it would be inferno

[worldly jolt]

You don’t need to. You can just put your address in. But everyone I’ve ever heard has not had any problems. It’s safe.

[jagged summit]

Man how hard is it to program a function that adds to a count for goodness sake. And to fix it for that matter too? Mastery points glitch shouldn’t be so hard to take care of.

[smoky python]

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-complex-thinking-gif-14892662

[worldly token]

@frosty canyon gg the ramphire was a nice move

[warped ocean]

the round freeze is know bug correct? Like the round freezes and cant reconnect

[lusty bridge]

That page is broken right now 😦

[warped ocean]

also we cant return back to Menu from the Settings, its only Exit Game

[junior geyser]

yes known bug but pls report anyways

[warped ocean]

when an augment says Gain 20 Energy after omega or gain 4 Energy every 5 seconds and such does that mean it gains Permanent Energy start after an omega?

Example: Exalted Synergetic Field on battle start you gain 20 energy, do you start with 20 energy again after an omega or the 20 is gone after the omega

[scarlet spindle]

I think instead of showing them all at once , it now shows the + / - scale when you click the one you are interested in.

[gentle bronze]

Is there a list I can find explaining each legendary augment?

Cant find anything about them on illuvial master

[gentle bronze]

@burnt urchin what am I doing wrong?

[burnt urchin]

I used to play the build you are currently running, but lost to it with the one I am beating you with. I think it is a decent counter to bird and invokers.

[gentle bronze]

Seems it

not really sure how to win this match up with the classic bird team

[jagged wigeon]

Hey guys! How do you change the camera angle in arena?

[golden pike]

RT

[burnt urchin]

I have lost to it, but the opponent was running nature instead of water.

[gentle bronze]

So much CC and defensive af

Its like I can take cleanse and Pure AD

[burnt urchin]

It has been fun with this build. It loses to colossus pretty bad though.

At least I haven’t figured out how to beat colos with it.

[west plume]

@gentle bronze GG

[harsh falcon]

meta is kinda boring everyone is spaming tank or perma shield

games last forever

[lusty bridge]

It used to be more comprehensive and had all the affinities and not just the base 5

[scarlet spindle]

only the dominant trait counts for Hyper

if you scroll down is has all the info for affinities,

[bronze spire]

mouse and q,w,e ect

[mortal notch]

Hey guys, happy holidays! Are there a way to count my casual games, some stats somewhere on my acc? Should write down how much i've played, but i didn't bother, and now regret

[worldly jolt]

1,2,3 also change to preset angles

[worldly jolt]

You can check your match history on illuvialmaster.com

It looks like their security certificate is outdated. 🤷

[lyric river]

Can we get an individualized image of the legendary augments from the team

[warped ocean]

imagine if in High Quality mode the augments were animated with a certain glow

Like the Shock augment had a lightning effect etc

[lyric river]

Add a nice effect to the Illuvial when applied

[stray gull]

@worldly jolt just spent an extra hour in Ranked recovering the Rating you stole from me

[worldly jolt]

Probably my nephew playing for his first time

[worldly jolt]

Dang it. I was about to make an awesome comeback and then it hung on waiting for opponent.

[proper horizon]

guys -

illuvialmaster website SSL expired 1 day ago. I do not know if that is fan made website or official - however that should be sorted out

[worldly jolt]

Fan based

[lyric river]

They are working on it

[stray gull]

So you're saying your Nephew who's never played the game beat me 3-0

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[worldly jolt]

Bad joke. It was me or I was coaching him.

Also… you must have gotten unlucky. I’ve got like a 17% win rate.

I’m quite bad. And rarely fix a team

Hangon. I think you thought I was someone I wasn’t.

[stray gull]

ahah, ah well

Somewhere out there, Pelican is destroying 1400 rated plebs

[worldly jolt]

1300

[potent topaz]

is there arena rewards by any chance?

[spark dagger]

not currently but there will be

[potent topaz]

okay mate! happy new yr

[spark dagger]

same to you!

[indigo swift]

There some real broken-ass comps that really taint the experience

[umbral glen]

Noob question. If I have double toxic on the board, how do I pair my ranger to make it a triple? It seems like every time I try, the option is not available.

[umbral glen]

There is, but that's why it's in beta

[spark dagger]

Depends on what the dominant affinity of your Illuvials are. Toxic is water + nature so your rangers weapon should be one of those and the dominant affinity of your bonded Illuvial should be the other

[fallen vortex]

Hey Arte!

[spark dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-bluebird-disney-pixar-gif-3218933963989779115

[fallen vortex]

u killing it on ladder rn?

[spark dagger]

lolz not really

I am knowledgable and I like the game but that doesn't always translate to skill

probably be better if I had more time in the day

[fallen vortex]

ive built a new team thats having very little issues

[spark dagger]

👀

[fallen vortex]

havent returned above 1700 again yet, but on a hot streak

[spark dagger]

what is your current rank?

[umbral glen]

This didn't work. I have both tox illuvials set to nature. I equip a nature weapon, but when I go to pair, it offers verdant. There has to be one small thing I'm doing way wrong here.

[spark dagger]

the weapon should be water when bonding with an illuvial of nature dominance to get toxic

[fallen vortex]

1650. I went to 1700 with a fun team I built, hit a bit of a wall since the meta flipped randomly. Now built a new team and dropped to 1500 while working on it. Now crushing that meta effortlessly

[reef rivet]

is the team still considering adding card draws or are they going with the full 28-30 card deck at the start? magic the gathering / hearthstone had card draws and were still considered skill games... i feel like its overwhelming to tell a story about the first turn when you have to explain the whole deck to the viewer vs having just 5 cards to choose from...

[worn thicket]

Nothing is set in stone and there are very good players like @smoky python (also former Gaming Subcouncil member) advocating for Card draw to be implemented in some way. With this said, it feels like the team is pretty attached to what they've built and their vision of the game and it will be very hard to make them change their minds

[smoky python]

Yup I've given my feedback and highly support a redesign but its really up to the team at this point and how they feel about the game (or an IIP to force their hand)

[mortal notch]

Thanks a million! I hope they are not hacked or something😅

[daring shale]

Anyone know why cant i post on the feedback channel?

[brazen quarry]

Need to be level 5

[daring shale]

How do you check the level ?

Weird to have a feedback channel but you only can post at level 5 tho

[brazen quarry]

#👑〕bot-commands

[daring shale]

Thanks

[brazen quarry]

lol these usernames

[brave moat]

Is there any reliable place to check the amount of my arena games? Illuvial master seems to be missing a few.

[jagged summit]

They gonna be waiting a long time for other languages if they ever come. Triple A game, without avg game language support. Not that the english is particularly polished for skills and descriptions as it is yet.

[warped ocean]

👀

[worldly jolt]

I can open a thread for you there if you’d like.

[manic kiln]

Hello, is there a way to see how many arena games we have played so far?

[worldly jolt]

illuvialmaster.com has keeps a match history that’s usually helpful.

[eager portal]

how much do you think?

[warped ocean]

5050 is my guess

[worn thicket]

that seems pretty accurate to me

[indigo swift]

I get. It just sucks when you're having a good time playing for a while then come up against that BS like 3 times in a row 😩

[eager portal]

😁

[warped ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/jonbonzeye-5050-gif-25072235

[tall grove]

How is possible to affinite ranger and illuvitar for 2 toxic or 2 steam...?

[worldly jolt]

Weapon and bonding. Press the + next to the ranger health bar. Then bond it with an illuvial. Water weapon + fire dominant illuvial=steam

[worn thicket]

If your ranger has a water weapon it can become toxic or Steam depending on who you bond it to.

[tall grove]

Ok, thanks a lot guys!!

[edgy flower]

or you can be conncted to water unit and swith wearpons for nature / fire for toxic / steam

[umbral glen]

Is there a way we can check and see if we've played 25 games or not? I have 26 marked down, but I'm also an idiot.

[worldly jolt]

illuvialmaster.com tracks your match history. Just type in your username

[umbral glen]

Looks like they haven't renewed their https though, I'm getting safety warnings. Hope all is well over there.

[worldly jolt]

Yeah. They know. They already applied for it or whatever they need to do

[abstract compass]

Hello!
Are there a cheat sheet where i can read how resistance's work?

[worldly jolt]

Resistance is a percentage reduction of incoming damage. this was wrong

[abstract compass]

how much of a percentage, say i have 100 in both resistances

[abstract compass]

I was playing with a phosphorus with perhaps over 400 in physical and energy, he could still die, and i find that outrageous

[worldly jolt]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[worldly jolt]

That’s the wrong way to say it. Let me practice some english

Resistance is a percentage increase of how much damage a unit can suffer before it is vanquished.

[abstract compass]

I got it, thank you!

So i need to get closer to 1000 for god mode then i suppose

[worldly jolt]

The idea is apparently that nothing should be completely bulletproof (except while indomitable or invincible)

[abstract compass]

But it's my idea 😛

https://tenor.com/view/voldemort-tom-riddle-harry-potter-live-forever-gif-13855932

[burnt urchin]

Apparently not a lot of people playing right now.

[languid tulip]

It’s New Year’s Eve. Bound to be a bit quieter atm.

[supple epoch]

Best out of five seems alil broke to let last 2 games decide outcome..

[olive hedge]

which augment would make my illuvial omega faster?

[cursive echo]

@edgy flower 🧠 GG

[edgy flower]

yep, just said the same in hype chat heh

im scared to que new game coz in second you will adapt to my new deck D :

@gloomy grove im glad you like my deck, but stop try to beat the master! : D

[gloomy grove]

Teach Me How to Play with It Please

[edgy flower]

as u can see rule1 - if you take deck, copy all card in it, otherwise you will miss somthing like second option of play

[gloomy grove]

This so much Air is to play mirror

[edgy flower]

them for any kind of mage type deck

psion, invokers, miorrors

and last time you connect frozen instead of tsunami xd

[gloomy grove]

Yes I was converted with a friend, I didn't pay attention to the game

Is the deck your creation?

[edgy flower]

i mean i play for 2 week some sort of enchenter sins i show it on inferno 3 or 4

and after tyesterday tournament i find this comp for enchanter and test it, looks like this is strongest verxion

[edgy flower]

so the answer is yes KEKW

[gloomy grove]

which a deck counter?

[edgy flower]

skilled player can best me on birds i guess, full ramph should kill rander and that it, maybe shock decks

anyway best conter is enemy ranger phantom who shoot me with right angl and kill ranger

coz its the only unit in this variation

withount it insta lose

[gloomy grove]

I took top 9 with toxic and hell

AI APPEARD MANY MUD AND I DROPED TO GOLD

sad 😦

[eternal kestrel]

why are there so many afk arena players? what do they gain

[olive hedge]

What does afk stand for?

[smoky python]

....

[cursive echo]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-so-hot-summer-sweating-sweating-hard-gif-16045826

@zenith mist

[eternal kestrel]

away from keyboard. like every third or fourth game i have to sit through some afk guy.

[olive hedge]

Perhaps they encounterd a bug or lost wifi

[eternal kestrel]

ah i didnt consider it

mine bugs out a fair bit

[olive hedge]

Yeah it can be frustrating losing because of bug or lost Internet

[stray gull]

that or grinding the Christmas Emotes

uncertain, I've only encountered one so far

[pale star]

Where i can see the leaderboard?

[stray gull]

play.illuvium.io/arena/leaderboard

[icy cloak]

is there a patch coming today/soon? Or did i hear that incorrectly? Happy new years/news years eve!

[zenith mist]

Fun one man 😄

[proper horizon]

Hello 🙂

If I get 2 matches in next 20-30 minutes more I will be eligible for all 6 emotes is that correct ?

Currently I have 23 out of 25 matches Arena - Casual

@arctic turtle good match 😄

what was that fiery bird on the end ?

[worldly jolt]

I’m gonna give up on my team building. I’m no master.

[proper horizon]

@sharp falcon good one 🙂

[warped ocean]

is there a place that shows how the life in arena is calculated?

what is the losing life points calculation based on

[worldly jolt]

How much hp the enemy has left

[warped ocean]

what do you mean

for example opponent just lost 165hp round 1

what was the calcualtion based on?

[arctic turtle]

@proper horizon ya good game

@worldly jolt I thought it was based off of the amount of illuvials and tier of those illuvials left. I know the ranger is a set 70 HP if they are left

[worldly jolt]

Could be. I actually don’t know anything about how it works. Sorry @warped ocean I don’t know for sure. Maybe it has to do with the mastery point cost of the units still on the board at the end of the round.

Found it on liquipedia.

The value of your team at the end of each round determines the damage you do

At the end of each round, you hopefully have some units standing. The value of these units combined is the damage you do on your opponent.

[lofty carbon]

Is surviving 20 rounds in training mode good? I’m new to the game

[smoky python]

For someone brand new sure

Otherwise no

[lofty carbon]

Okay thank you

[warped ocean]

When you say value that means how much mastery points theyre worth yes?

that makes sense now, nice

[worldly jolt]

Yes

[native pilot]

Is the emote promo still running? Wasn't sure what timezone the 1st Jan 10:59am was

[icy cloak]

omg within 5 hours every single team is runnign tsunami lol

[alpine bay]

anyone share some video of play arena or live ， my rank 890 ，want learn some skill to paly high rank ，thank you

[fallen vortex]

Can someone please tell me how to beat Invoker

@proven ember can u please delete Indomitable so people actually need to put in effort

[edgy flower]

you comment my game on enchanter when i beat invokers even with ramph 🙂

[zenith bough]

Indomitable isn’t a issue. It’s a fix.

It’s good for the game

Deleting it would be super bad

[zenith bough]

Why?

[plucky kestrel]

where in my account do I find my arena rank?

[zenith bough]

play.illuvium.io/arena/leaderboard?activeTab=ascendant

[worn thicket]

agree @coarse echo @topaz lake ❤️ love you guys but that augment is just anti fun... a 25MP Fliish with 2 augments shouldn't take longer to kill than a Titanor with 3 Colossus T_T

[warped ocean]

Just got a never ending round bug, illuvial went invisible and round not ending 200 seconds lol

[fallen vortex]

Basically sums it up 😛

[fallen vortex]

Yeah but I am not tryna build a one trick team. The 7 air is VERY specific against certain things. I am trying to build things that face most things well

[fallen vortex]

Its a fix to being bad at Illuvium

I wont agree with u here lol

coming against my first tsunami now. What is it, harbinger on ranger?

Anyone else feel like Carablu line should maybe just be T2. Would fix all 3 openers being the most viable things

stage 2 bull rypterus, cardulox bond, 3 water bulwark

[warped ocean]

last time we made a fix no one even uses that team at all anymore

aka Empath

it was more of an abolishment than nerf lol

I havent seen an empath ever

XD

“Plz fix so it cant beat my comp”

[plucky kestrel]

not found

[edgy flower]

Now I adapt this deck to be good against everything, but I need to climb at the main be4 publish it 🙂

[fallen vortex]

I wouldnt have called that a fix

[fallen vortex]

I have a team that performs very well against everything except invoker

my rhamphyre just doesnt do enough dmg

trying some shit tho

[plucky kestrel]

where do I find my rank

[icy cloak]

cause of @edgy flower i think

[edgy flower]

no, its coz of web3 gaming, his deck worse but he did yt video xd

[fallen vortex]

web3 gaming tv just put out a video. But people have copied it and dont actually understand positioning. I just took out 2 in a row basically for free.

[edgy flower]

i saw they connet to kuka and get frost ranger instead of tsunami, laugh so hard

[plucky kestrel]

where do I find my rank

[smoky python]

There's a link in announcements

What's your mmr?

[worn thicket]

lmao

[zenith bough]

Niiice. Lots of new builds. Live it 😃

[edgy flower]

just lose to smurf on main and lose 37, hate it

[plucky kestrel]

ok found it
something like 700

[zenith bough]

That’s an opinion one could hold

I think it’s a good counter to teams going all in on one position/tactic.

[grand bluff]

I've had much success against Psion and Invokers with the newest meta teams.

Mud Mystic, Mystic Enchanter, Tsunami etc.

[winter dagger]

There is some max air counter that shits on that new tsunami build shoulda screenshotted it

[worldly token]

no one playing casual right now? wanted to test a new team, but cant find any games

[winter dagger]

test teams on ranked like a madman haha

[worldly token]

I guess I have to 😄

[reef basalt]

Ok that tsunami enchanter is pretty good

[warped ocean]

Yeah this needs to be fixed

[reef basalt]

The leecher augments on Axodon is pure genius. Water regen with heal means you cant pop off any omegas of invokers

[warped ocean]

the only thing i can tell will be an overkill issue will be people just constantly picking whatever meta team is and 9/10 times your playing against that team.

In TFT you cant necessarily do that because you dont go in with a set team, its also luck/rng based which i believe this game might need

[worldly jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

The way to silver

[worn thicket]

that's what i do and honestly my rank doesn't tank THAT much xD
I'm just 1700s rather than 2k xD

[proper horizon]

I'll go now to break the time record 🤣

[harsh falcon]

i konw the player base is low but its funny how i guy with a youtube video changes the meta XD

every single plyer i play is running the tsunami team

i hate it and love it at the same time

[worn tree]

The game design team has a massive job in the arena. The fact that you bring your team pre game means that if smthing is clearly stronger it will be abused by nearly everyone and if the counters are not strong enough, the game won't balance itself well enough. I think we are suffering from this because the illuvial pool is low.

Kieran boasts about 252 illuvials and I have to disagree with him. Lynx and tier 0s are the same illuvial in multiple affinities and stages, but same illuvial regardless, the slight changes in the omega across illuvial stages isn't meta relevant.

Happens the same with the other illuvials with 3 stages. Their class and affinities mutate, but the omega, which is the most meta relevant feature is nearly unchanged among stages. That is reasonable from a game design perspective imho, but it means that we dont have that much variety.

Mud is thriving because the air affinity (natural counter to mud due to synergies and hyper) has a shitty pool of illuvials and they are mostly empaths. Since empaths are severely missbalanced, they are unplayable right now.

To sum up, what I mean is, to avoid a rock paper scissor situation that makes the meta experience poorer and that most matches are similar and defined before they start, the balancing in the arena needs to be top notch. A bigger illuvial pool will definitely help as well (but at the same time will make it harder to balance).

I have been counting and the actual pool of illuvials is 38. Stages, affinities and classes are permutations of the same illuvial and omega. But definitely not a new illuvial.

I am greatly addicted to the game and the team has created a massive experience. I have always been critical because I want the best for the IP.

I know this is just early access and so far the team is delivering greatly. But if we want to be top tier in the world, we need to push further.

Thank you for this experience guys, I am loving it.

[warped ocean]

illuvium

[median compass]

in a year or so that wont be a problem and voiding certain illuvials as unique is sort of fair enough but each one builds a very different team! I think one of the main takeaways i would feedback is that its not so easy to pivot right now and thats mainly because he cost of subbing and replacing is too high, that needs tinkering and testing and i think that could introduce a real strong skill based game to overcome that rock paper scissors point of yours too! 🙂

[karmic zealot]

i see whaere you are coming from , i have loved the game thus far and can certaintly agree with a few of your key points . i how ever woulnt mind an always chanching metta where tanks can be good another assasins another so on and so forth it also insetivises a reasopn to come up with new illuvials i am to belive there is no sush thing as true balance so why not let it be adaptability

[worn thicket]

it's like in every game though xD

[karmic zealot]

all about the reach

[harsh falcon]

keep in mind when overworld gets added and you can only use illuvials you catched its going to be whole different game ... now when you can choose any and all illuvials to build a deck you cant really have the real experience like when we can only use the illuvials we catch

[raven obsidian]

@subtle bone gg, that was a close game!

[worn thicket]

Ok first, i think counters already counter too hard. there is no skill right now. just deck vs deck -> good matchup you win, bad matchup you can forfeit honestly to save your time.

on the 252 Illuvials point... yep i've been saying it's a scam for 2 years now xD

Then i'll have to disagree i haven't faced a single mud in the last 4 days... and see a lot of air

But on the overall message i agree. Game right now is not fun and there's a lot of work in the design that needs to be made to be one of the top games in the world.

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[worn thicket]

that's not really an argument. you can just buy from the market, and if you think the top leaderboard players will limit themselves cauz they couldn't find a rhamphyre... that's just not how it works.

[worn tree]

Good points sir, and thank you the rest for your inputs. ❤️ It's great knowing ur opinions.

I don't think counters counter too hard. I just think the game balance is wrong, mystic and mud are way too strong. I wish we could see the wr statistics of the decks.

Also, the tsunami with the "On omega" mechanic are broken, smthing that is a game designing issue in terms of scalability

[sacred finch]

i believe the gauntlet is the problem, it is by far the best ranger weapon

[formal crown]

I have a feelings this will get nerfed in the near future

[worn tree]

True that, but the energy reduce on omega augment + tsunami is boosted too

It's all this today I guess:

Unhealthy

[median compass]

sort of, but how come its the same people winning tournaments and in the top rankings? i think the only answer i can come up with is that their skill is higher than the other competitors no? 😛 that wouldnt be possible if it was just deck based luck

[scarlet spindle]

I've been using my favorite deck for about 3 weeks and I seem to be able to beat more or less any team if they don't counter my positioning , but there are 2 specific teams I can not beat if they position right. I like the fact that position has been more important than the teams I face most of the time.

[worn thicket]

hi https://x.com/Zeptyle/status/1741240534344056966?s=20

🙂

and 4th at Inferno #2 or 3 i don't remember

[median compass]

fair enough but 1 tournament isnt a great sample size, this could also show that its a new game and theres some skill developing, hasnt smart ass won most tournaments and hasnt web3 gaming been 1st most of the time on ladder rankings?

and daym i just played romati! so i beat a 1st place tournament player! 😮

[cursive hedge]

where do you guys find and join tournaments ?

[worn thicket]

ladder rankings just like in any game are more of a testimony of how much you play, more than how good you play. a streamer making 200 games/day with 51% winrate will always be higher than a dude with a real life job and plays 3-4 games in their evenings

[worn thicket]

Twitter mostly

if you follow me, @smoky python @fallen vortex and @vivid stirrup it's very unlikely that you miss a tournament

[cursive hedge]

can u give me an example ?

@worn thicket can I dm u ?

[worn thicket]

sure

[median compass]

not quite true as once you get over a certain elo, a loss will hurt you so much more than a win will help, top 10 really have to keep win streaks going like crazy, 1-5 points for a win and 20-35 lost points for a loss against a lower rank

but i agree at least it is a factor

[cursive hedge]

accept f req

[worn thicket]

yeah i mean, you're not very familiar with me i don't blame you... but you can trust my word when i say i know games, esports and competitiveness 🙂

[median compass]

so to said problem, lets assume im not playing devils advocate and I agree there is a deck vs deck issue over skill game, how would you recommend fixing it? games like marvel snap and clash royale those issues are kind of embedded into card games really, the only idea i can think of is adding more card slots up from 28 to like 35 or removing/reducing the cost of withdrawing illuvies. other than that is it not just an embedded issue with card games in general that there will be some kind of deck combo that will be better than all the other possible combos?

[worn thicket]

There are a lot of options on the table that top players proposed:
I suggested bigger decks (starting with a test of 30 cards over current 28). My guess is that if we have more flexibility in our decks with more illuvials, there will be more mind games and decision making.
@smoky python is a strong advocate for drawing the cards like in any traditional TCG
and @lean ivy has an entire thread of proposals but my fav is variable income through the rounds

I think all ideas are valid and would make the game better/more skill based. What the team ends up doing with this feedback is now in their hands, but trust me they are very aware of the current situation and lack of skill expression.

[median compass]

fair enough, its great to hear those conversations are being had

[worn thicket]

i think the general consensus is it's boring and skilless to always have your "perfect hand" every turn. We would need some variance to be implemented in some way to improve both replayability and skill expression

[scarlet spindle]

What could cause the ranger weapon to not do anything on impact? like it should hit a cluster for 800 each but none take dmg and no dodge message or anything? They did not have shielding or indomitable or anything either, just normal.

[lilac grail]

check on the front lane. you see the ball from the gauntlet going into the furthest. but when it arrives in the furthest enemy. the damage is gaven to the first that it go thrue.

[scarlet spindle]

Ahhh that makes sense. Thank you!

[wicked forum]

Where tournaments are announced? How can i subscribe to it?

[smoky python]

Smartass has only won twice and in fact is the only player that has won twice.

[smoky python]

Yup all would help make the game better but admittedly my suggestion (which I think is best obviously) is the most work as a complete redesign.
Also sad that Cavemans thread has such little feedback and upvotes considering the time he spent with the video and post and the quality of his suggestions

[worn thicket]

he also didn't compete in most of them tbf to him

[median compass]

i thought so! hes done very well!

[oak oar]

Hey guys, do you have problems using preset camera angles 1, 2, 3 ? it does nothing when I press them (using azerty keyboard).

[wide hearth]

Can anybody explain me why for example tsunami isnt counted towards water element bonus? Is it bug or by purpose?

[smoky python]

Because it is Tsunami , not Water

[west plume]

did someone make a Video of Tsunami?

all iam getting

[worn tree]

On purpose, tsunami ≠ water. Composite affinities don't count as regular affinities.

[woven flint]

When lnching the game I switch to qwerty to be able to use those (also on AZERTY natively)

[worn thicket]

@bronze spire 's fault ❤️

[wicked cloak]

anyone have the full flish team?

i wanna try it out

[reef basalt]

Seems like a good counter to tsunami team since they have no rogues 🤔

[wicked cloak]

until they put rogues in there lol, just played one who had 3 rogues and i could do anything

[wicked cloak]

Could not

[bronze spire]

haha my bad! Looks like people are already finding ways to counter it

[soft prairie]

In the official release, we'll be playing against each other in Irbial, the one we caught in Overworld, right?

[worldly jolt]

Arena will use illuvials that were captured in the overworld. Yes

[soft prairie]

Thanks again for your answers.

[mighty tulip]

I tried it and it was fun. Though it always feels a bit cheesy using the ranger to wipe your opponent 😅.

[worn thicket]

i mean a 110MP ranger should be as good if not better than a Rhamphyre with no augments right?

[reef basalt]

Honestly, its the splash damage that needs to be nerfed

[worn thicket]

you mean a do 800*OP to the target it hits and 40% of that dmg to the nearby ennemies kind of thing?

[mighty tulip]

Oh yeah I not saying its too OP or anything. I'm just not a fan personally.

[reef basalt]

I think the damage to the original target is fine but it just deletes everyone around it also lol

[smoky python]

If its going to be the only thing that does AOE damage to an opponent then the damage just needs to be weaker

Or everything else needs to be buffed

[worn thicket]

agree. also in a general way i tend to find AOE damage a bit overtuned right now like Rhamphyre, Gauntlet... MONKIER (that thing is 55MP PLEASE)

but it might just be the consequence of packed empaths dominating for a bit so everything else got balanced around that and now it just feels off

[mighty tulip]

What should Monkier cost in your opinion?

[worn thicket]

it's a Tier 1 stage 3, it's cost is related to that. Issue is it's damage output which is really not correlated to it's cost imo

and wait for us to not be able to use more than one siphon matrix in a deck or no more than one supressor and watch all these things we find "strong but has counterplay" go completely out of hand

[mighty tulip]

What needs to happen to behemoth to make it viable? It's so expensive yet extremely underwhelming. I've sacrificed a tonne of elo trying to make it work but it just doesn't

[worn thicket]

no more augments makes it very viable as we've seen during the funscendant. but right now they just get bullied by mud and siphon matrix + all the frontline stuns too hard

i've suggested the team to include some sort of immune to their kit maybe when they do their empowered auto-attack but at the same time i'd probably like to see the game with the augments limitations first before we buff behemoth again. (still based on what happened in the funscendant)

[mighty tulip]

Yes immune and maybe even damage reduction on takedown (similar to vanguard) would certainly help. I agree though, augments are out of control rn.

[ocean junco]

What does clumsy do?

[vague karma]

enemies can't evade attacks, it's a debuff state

[ocean junco]

Thx

[junior geyser]

link?

[mighty tulip]

To the deck? It's in the description on web3gamings video. You can find the vid in #🎨〕community-content

[junior geyser]

the counter to his

[worldly jolt]

Was it fliish mobbing?

[junior geyser]

i think so

[junior geyser]

@worn tree link to fliish build?

[worn tree]

Let me benefit from this masterpiece I have created a bit more and I will share the deck with you. Is an anti meta deck. 90% wr right now.

[junior geyser]

all good i was able to mirror

[worn tree]

Damn you! hahahaha

[tight swift]

What's a deck that counters the meta? What's in it?

[worn tree]

That honestly changes weekly

But somthing that nbdy is playing right now. Its a frankestein deck. Viper lost to it twice and called it "shit" lol hahahaha

[plucky kestrel]

what do you think bps are gonna be worth

[junior geyser]

first game = win 😉 thanks man

[worn tree]

Yw, it's not easy to play though. Some matchups are fucked up.

Don't share it with nbdy yet. If we make it extensive, we won't be able to benefit from it long.

[junior geyser]

i gotchu homie

[tight swift]

Would you like to share this deck with me?😇

[worn tree]

Lol we made Viper uninstall

[junior geyser]

yeahhhh i feel bad now lol

[worn tree]

I mean it's not your fault. The meta is a bit disgusting so it is what it is.

[cloud flax]

soon 2k , am still trying but hard to counter sometimes .. xD nice games to all i played against today 😉

[junior geyser]

tsunami/enchanter is cancer

[vale coral]

wen patch

[karmic zealot]

trying to stream on tiktok if you all have any advice 1500 rank so far getting clapped

[vale coral]

play tsunami

[karmic zealot]

what is there damage tho ?

i struggkle against mud

hard

[vale coral]

#🎨〕community-content message

[karmic zealot]

yhanks man

yea i might have to try that its been hard getting out of the 1500s

[civic grotto]

I would argue that Invokers still counter Tsunami build, because Ophisto kills ranger easily. After that its easy to kill rest of the team

[karmic zealot]

i see

waht is your rank ?

[civic grotto]

plat 2

[fallen vortex]

I've beaten a few tsunami. Its easy to beat if people arent as good as top elo players 😛

[fallen vortex]

To be fair u can move it around freely on the board, and its small tile size, which is a considerable buff over rhamphyre in some ways

[fallen vortex]

Did he actually? What happened?

[copper robin]

if i edit a team that create a new share link, or can i post my team now and after a edit it'll update?

[worldly jolt]

Yes

Because the link is a link to the team. Not the snapshot state of the team.

[drifting torrent]

such a tilter man

my match vs sandy bird

[reef basalt]

Cause of enchanter?

[drifting torrent]

gg orace

[fallen vortex]

I am using Enchanter atm haha, its pretty gross, but definitely not unbeatable, damn invokers

Its actually the same problem as old empath. Too many shields, and no counterplay in existence

[reef basalt]

The team Im using is able to beat enchanters so far. Its actually geared to take advantage of hyper too lol

[grand bluff]

How to beat Mud Mystic?

[reef basalt]

Invoker? Enchanter does a good job also when positioned correctly

[fallen vortex]

I'm not using the enchanter build everyone is using

that one sucks ass

but if u counter it hard u probably counter mine

but I have variations built into mine for psions etc

[grand bluff]

Hmm any links to Invoker decks?

[reef basalt]

This was vipers old one with ophisto

https://play.illuvium.io/team-builder/8417469f-7d35-4835-b4ce-de23693233a5

Ophisto shock would kill ranger quickly which is why it's effective against gauntlet enchanter team

[soft prairie]

Are multiple accounts allowed in Arena?

If the top ranking people can fill up their ranking with multiple accounts, they can make a lot of money.

[worn thicket]

Yes

not sure it will be "a lot" of money though. I still hope the ILV team won't throw too many ILV for a bo1 coinflip ladder with close from no skill involved... but we'll see

[grand bluff]

Thanks!

[prisma heron]

Anyone have good content for first timer like me to learn from? Ill play survival and get to like round 8 at most… There’s so much to this game its overwhelming a bit

Best way to learn is to keep playing? trying to go at this in a better way

[worn thicket]

@spark dagger has great beginner friendly guides to teach you the core basic mechanics! then as you improve i'd recommend @bronze spire

[bronze spire]

Only team I can’t beat on mud mystic is bloom arcanite (provided they are proficient at it)

From my experience so far

[worn thicket]

havent seen anyone playing mud mystic in like a week though xD

[bronze spire]

Yea same haha except me. It’s not the most exciting build out there I’ve just always liked monkier

[worn thicket]

fair. not that to me any of the 8 illuvials build feels exciting though xD

[bronze spire]

What’s your all time favourite

[worn thicket]

probably my Toxic Colossus with aegis, berserker, rogues and 5 psions options. total of 15 Illuvials. Not good in the actual meta, was better last patch but that deck had proper decision making and adaptability. I hope that's the kind of Decks that will be rewarded in the future rather than these one-trick decks with 8 illuvials 17 augments

[bronze spire]

Agreed. My mud mystic has 10 illuvials but the only real versatility comes from adding in inferno rhamph. Other than that it’s the same most match ups. Want to try add something for bloom arcanite but it sacrifices too many augment slots with how it’s currently limited

(Given I also have 4 weapons)

[worn thicket]

Yeah i think the issue comes from augments being too powerful in general. leading us to prefer playing 2-3 good units and 5cheap steaks, just so that we can start attaching augments quicker.

[bronze spire]

Yea I suppose they have been trending towards nerfing augments each patch. Probs will continue that way

[worn thicket]

Yeah i mean everyone complains about survival protocol, but Vitality Veil is just as absurd, Supressor/Siphon Matrix are complete must haves and i think people definitely don't talk enough about Nano Sequencer or Temporal Safeguard on how broken they are on the right units... and let's just not even mention Techno Leecher right? xD

[grand bluff]

Hmm okay thanks. Do you have a video on your thought process on using mud mystic?

[grand bluff]

I tried using Mud Mystic, but somehow I always lose when I use it and opponent always wins when they use it 😦

[bronze spire]

https://youtu.be/uhv1UfdsEwU?si=whgR0JiuSeGSfRuN

It just might be a little outdated with some of the advice. What team comps are you finding you lose to?

[bronze spire]

Temporal safeguard on phosphorus is my number 1 broken augment. I like all the others but agree could use a nerf to see how that changes everything

[grand bluff]

Phosphorus Arcanite Phyriox. They protect their Phyriox at the very back and my Predator Mud can't get to it immediately. When it omegas, it usually already loses half his health and Phyriox can finish him off easily because taunt makes Phyriox retarget the statue, then the Predator.

I also find it hard against mirror matchups and lose to Psions. But I'll watch the vid first!

[fallen vortex]

@reef basalt how do u do

gg

[reef basalt]

hahaha gg. I had really bad positioning. I cant get it right

[fallen vortex]

dw u just ended my losing streak

[reef basalt]

wasted so much MP moving about

[fallen vortex]

not quite but I have lost tonnes of points today

i was half nervous about giving u predator

but ur monkier was in the wrong spot

[reef basalt]

yeah, i didnt have enough MP to move it which was stupid of me

[fallen vortex]

rip

Grilla, meet Grokko

[reef basalt]

GG

[fallen vortex]

gg

check ur healing

stats

those augments r pretty wild

Make Omni Vamp and Verdant look like Omni lick and Verdont

IYKYK

[reef basalt]

lol

[fallen vortex]

similar to yours

[reef basalt]

i cant seem to position my monkier correctly both games

[fallen vortex]

except I think itd work better

[fallen vortex]

I think I got lucky with my switcharound at the end

[reef basalt]

round before it monkier went around which was stupid

it had enough space beside gnarl

[fallen vortex]

Ive played so many games where I lock ryplance and monkier away in a corner and still win

[bronze spire]

yea I havent been able to find a way to beat bloom with mud mystic yet. Psion it gets much easier when you add in rhamph inferno ranger to your build. Opening with grilla than rhamph plus indom

[worn tree]

He said he might take a few weeks off, he was a bit burnt with the meta recently. And he was making noob mistakes cause of lack of focus.

[worn tree]

Mainly the psion weapon

[fallen vortex]

I did that a bunch today too

Making some really dumb mistakes

its pretty tilting

[scarlet spindle]

Is this how you make us ragequit lol, find our counter deck and spam us with them over and over and over. I'm done. g' night.

[reef basalt]

Might be good to allow them to find a game by waiting a few minutes longer?

[tame prairie]

How to understand which abilities will be on hero when he connect to some creature. Always different

[worldly token]

Can someone please explain to me how overtime damage works? it seems like the winning team does not get any damage while the other team gets rekt

[worldly jolt]

My memory is that it's based on combined HP for all of your team's illuvials/ranger on the board. A percentage of that is dealt as pure damage distributed evenly to everything on the opponents team

[reef basalt]

Seems like the damage is shared to the rest of the units on the board. So a team with most will probably win

[worldly jolt]

Shields are ignored

[worldly token]

Thanks

[bronze spire]

@drifting torrent lol what have you done

[worldly token]

Do we know how many people are playing the game on a regular basis?

[arctic turtle]

Ya I believe it is a set pure damage per pulse that is distributed across your team that ignores shield, and defense and increases per pulse. The best way that I have found to survive longer is have more total health and healing. I had a team that used the sudden death rounds to win most games. It was a nature, empath, verdent, healing team.

[grand bluff]

Can't that simply be countered with 3 Suppressor augments?

[arctic turtle]

Yes it can but if you are also using 3 suppressor augments you still have mare healing. But since it is focused on healing at that point it most likely will lose against most other teams. It was a team I used for a little while but not any more.

[junior geyser]

wen patch

[brazen quarry]

@willow widget what build did you use today in Survival?

[summer frigate]

Wen patch ?

[worn thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[onyx sundial]

Is the leaderboard glitched? I can't seem to see between 485-1044

[scarlet spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-gif-8544019615782342569

I think the times that I waited a few minutes, he waited a few minutes too lol, and when i hit it immediately, i guess he did too. It was a mess haha

[civic grotto]

Stage 1 bird is fine, it doesnt attack that fast..

[scarlet spindle]

@drifting torrent played his deck exactly the right way to counter each different way I came at him. It was really the perfect counter to my deck. I have no ill will there, it was well played.

My complaint is being on like a 5 and 2 session and then getting the same guy with the perfect counter 5 or 6 times back to back to back.

I do like that if you hit play again fast, you can have a rematch. A 3rd game is ok** if** you are 1 and 1, a nice tie breaker.. but six !? As a codeslinger, myself, I feel like this would be like a 10 line fix. Thus I put in my 2 aggravated cents and hope to see it come to pass in the next patch or two.

[worldly jolt]

Did you hit B in game and get an actual ticket for this feedback?

[scarlet spindle]

Not this specific time, but I have before. There has been several occasions where I have had the same opponent 5 or 6 times in a row. I have even changed decks after 3 or 4, got one match with someone new, then switched back to previous deck and got that same player again. That is what prompted the thought that it might be using your decks as a selection criteria and not just random queue.

[vale coral]

first two games playing super sloppy tsunami and I still win. Hate that build

[burnt urchin]

I had a day where I played Jimberino 6-7 times over a few hours. It didn’t seem like the best thing. They should cap it. Something like in ranked you can’t play the same person more than 3 times in 24h.

I also like the idea of a rematch button.

[scarlet spindle]

I was thinking something along the lines of
if player_1 && player_2 have matched in the last 5 minutes { if times_matched in the last 30 minutes = 3 ( move to next opponent ); if win_count for player_1 or player_2 vs same opponent in the last 15 minutes = 2 ( move to next opponent ); }

I really do like the idea of a Re-match button though!

[tropic moon]

the game just changed my team for no reason so I entered the game with the wrong team.... half-built one... bug?

[wicked forum]

"Wildfire stats: 150% max energy as energy damage..". How can we know the max energy of a illuvial?

[olive hedge]

how do you beat a team built around psion?

[smoky python]

Play a team that beats them

[wicked forum]

Nobody know that?

[bronze spire]

Totally agree, I find i often have to not que for 5 or so mins try to mix it up playing someone knew

[bronze spire]

add a rhamphyre + inferno ranger into your build. Inferno counters it very well

what team are you playing?

[olive hedge]

thank you! do I play the rhamphyre super early, early or late?

[olive hedge]

mud, bezerker, colosule, invoker

i usually get beat early and mid game before I get my full team assembled, any tips?

[bronze spire]

yea hard to say. If im playing mud mystic. I skip round 1 since their colouss toxic opener is so strong anyway. Than round 2 I play the grilla and rhamph and get an indom on him as soon as possible than go normal build from there.

[bronze spire]

yea rhamph relatively early with indom saves on health. Still lose the rounds until late but only way I save HP to get to late game

[olive hedge]

thanks

is ramphy good on my team if i dont run into a psion team?

[bronze spire]

hmm my guess is no probs not. I literally only use it against psion and some times invoker

[worldly token]

Anyone knows how to tell the max energy? would love to know aswel

[bronze spire]

only way i know of is just hovering over them as they cast and see what energy hits before they cast

[inner orbit]

Liquipedia has all that info I think

[zenith bough]

At the illuvihub . gg you can see starting energy and max energy for all the Illuvials (under their Illuviary)

[bronze spire]

oh sick didnt know that ill start using it

[drifting torrent]

I went on a 26 w streak I was winning every matchup

[scarlet spindle]

You were on fire

[drifting torrent]

That deck I cooked up lol

I got a couple different versions of cancer

[scarlet spindle]

You seemed to really have a deeper understanding of it than ive had against similar decks

[drifting torrent]

Energy leech

Op

[olive hedge]

what does this mean?

[drifting torrent]

Understand the Meta: Keep up-to-date with the current meta. Knowing the popular decks and strategies can help you anticipate what you're likely to face and plan counters accordingly.Identify Weaknesses: Every deck has weaknesses. Identifying these and building a deck that can exploit them is key. This could be through faster aggression, better late-game scaling, or specific counter cards/units.Adaptability: Build a deck that is adaptable and can pivot strategies mid-game if needed. Flexibility can often outmaneuver rigid, one-dimensional decks.Tech Choices: Include specific cards or units in your deck that are effective against the prevalent strategies in the current meta.Control the Pace: Control decks focus on disrupting the opponent's strategy and pacing the game to your advantage, often through removals, board clears, and other disruptive elements.Practice and Experimentation: The more you play, the better you'll understand the strengths and weaknesses of various decks, including your own. Don't be afraid to experiment with different combinations.Watch and Learn: Observing how top players counter popular decks can provide valuable insights. Twitch streams, YouTube channels, and community forums can be great resources.Stay Updated: Keep an eye on game updates, patches, and new releases, as these can significantly shift the effectiveness of certain decks and strategies.

[west quartz]

what's the deck ? 🙂

[reef basalt]

The augment that enchanters put on Axodon

Looks yellow and spirally

[worn thicket]

@topaz lake we know there's been holidays and all that, so no rush. I was just wandering if you could tell us if a patch is planned for before the Inferno 6 tomorrow or if it's more likely something for next week?

[proven ember]

Edi is on holiday until the 8th

[topaz lake]

No patch

[worn thicket]

oh Welcome back Ben! so no patch until at least the 8th?

[topaz lake]

It will take some time to work on the next one, we don't have any ETA atm

[worn thicket]

ok 🥲

[smoky python]

Can we get some information about major changes happening to the game?

[worldly token]

why does being taunted stop an omega? My Ophisto did no damage with his omega because he got taunted in the animation

[brave moat]

Because it does? I think it's intentional.

[worldly token]

hmm.. In my oppinion - if I am already targeting that illuvial I wouldnt be interrupted 😄

but I guess there needs to be a couple interrupts

[cyan olive]

I think atm taunt means "forces you to auto attack target and do nothing else, no casting, channeling, etc."
Taunt would be weak without doing this, but it can feel very frustrating for sure^^

[harsh falcon]

does anyone know if ranks will be reset before rewards system goes live ?

[wicked forum]

"Wildfire stats: 150% max energy as energy damage..". How can we know the max energy of a illuvial? Any admin can answer that?

[glossy kettle]

Silly question - how can you tell the number of matches you have played so far?

[rain coral]

There is no official tool to check this, but you can try through the illuvialmaster website.

[lilac grail]

This information is not given in the UI in the deck builder.
There is a table with all stats for all illuvial in one of the older patch note. And then there was different adjustement that was made in the more recent patchnote

Or you can see the current energy in game and make a ratio with the blur bar. If 50 energy and bar is 50% filled. =100. We already gave the feedback that it was missing key information in the deck builder.

[wicked forum]

thank you for the answer

[worldly token]

Does root also interupt?

[worn thicket]

Root only prevents the unit from moving. Stun interrupts though.

[worldly jolt]

Some omegas have movements involved in them. I can’t remember if those get cancelled or just delayed.

[opaque pike]

where can i find some meta comps

[rain coral]

Following the streamers, you can find some of them in #🎨〕community-content

[lean ivy]

Lets gooo! Congrats

[worldly jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[edgy flower]

devs, there is bug with leecher it drains from all of units 12% of THEIR energy instead of 12% of ryplances, hotfix it plesae

[cyan olive]

it isn´t only ryplance, it is any unit I think, obv work well on low energy cost fighters etc.

[brazen quarry]

I did say it from the start, with a name like techno leecher, it has to be OP

[reef basalt]

so thats why.

[grand bluff]

Ahh so that's why my units can't cast omegas.

I thought, wow Techno Leecher on a low energy unit is so strong 😂 Turns out it reduces energy based on your unit's energy instead of the caster's energy.

[neon oyster]

why can't I make a new build? writes - invalid team

[lyric river]

just a u i glitch max team of 5 should let you still play it if you have under 5

[echo yew]

Lots of changes need to be made next patch....

[lilac grail]

That shouldn't happen after 1min queue..

[sullen dew]

what is your main deck 🙂

[twilit storm]

actually..the more you wait the wider range of matchup is allowed. So if after 25 sec u can t find anything..better to stop and requeue

or jokes like this will happen

[harsh falcon]

glad you won ... would have been -69 for sure

[worn thicket]

My experience in PvP today:

1. Launch game with the intent of practicing for tomorrow's double tournament
2. Get triple disconnect in my second game
3. Close game and decide I won't play tomorrow's tournaments

That's where we're at. Even for 500 potential $ i can't get myself to play more this patch and/or deal with the bugs.

[gentle bronze]

Is it possible to make it where you can FF in the middle of a wave going please?

😅

[errant estuary]

Anyone had issue with team builder where importing or even creating a team alawys result in 'invalid team' ?

[cyan olive]

I´d love that

[zenith bough]

Think everyone has that. You can still play the teams. Just a bug in the viewer

[light garnet]

Just a silly spot I found, and didn't wanna tag or throw this anywhere serious, but thought I'd make note of it incase it was a genuine mistake!

Says on the description 'Scoriox actives its molten...' Is that supposed to be activates?

[west plume]

@gentle bronze do you even emote?

[smoky python]

If there aren't going to be any patches can the team at least tell us what they are working on? That way we can let you guys know if you're on the right track or not.

[west plume]

@gentle bronze GG

[worn thicket]

@noble radish @proven ember

[safe valve]

Jimberino IS the emote 😂

[west plume]

Lol

@spark dagger

[spark dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/stitch-lilo-and-stitch-dramatic-dying-im-die-gif-15305574

[west plume]

i dont think so

[spark dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/blake-lively-you-were-saying-gossip-girl-gif-12143152

[west plume]

GG

[west plume]

iam loving it

[uncut comet]

holy shit didnt knew we can see played hours

[civic grotto]

I'm afraid to have a look at my playtime hours. Probably equal to my elo 😂

[uncut comet]

wow didnt saw your top 50 but prob also over 200 😅

u playin phospho comp right?

[civic grotto]

7 fighters, started playing them 2 days ago

Figured out that's the best way to beat mystic/ench

[hearty sleet]

What’s your eighth illuvitar?

Need to beat this mystic enchanter build badly

[civic grotto]

I'll publish a video tomorrow. Will explain everything

I've got 100% wr against that comp

[hearty sleet]

Nice! What’s your YouTube channel?

[civic grotto]

Check #🎨〕community-content

[hearty sleet]

Thanks! Can’t wait to take them down

You start nature toxic right?

[olive hedge]

I thought I played alot lol

[uncut comet]

i mean no better chance in learning the game then now need to play :S

[cursive echo]

@umbral oracle I love confronting you but ask for coaching from @cyan olive

[umbral oracle]

Not my best

[cursive echo]

you play like pb2 😂 ❤️

[worldly jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-star-trek-gif-19129737

[cursive echo]

bug I didn't have the mastery points

[smoky python]

Anything?

[stray gull]

Morning,

GD Team have a comprehensive list of the biggest issues based on testing and feedback from yourself and others.

They're working through how to best address the issues, creating documentation, creating dev briefs, associated data updates as well as prioritizing changes that are quick wins vs higher effort changes.

I'm sure Aaron will be forthcoming and share what the exact shape of the changes will be, once they're known.

It is my understanding that significant changes are absolutely being considered, although I'm not close to this so wouldn't want to speak to exactly what these look like.

[smoky python]

Personally I would like to see what is being worked on and the direction they are taking before its released. Based on the development of the game and the state its in now there needs to be some oversight by people with knowledge and experience in the field

It cant just be some throw shit randomly at the wall and hopefully the game goes from bad -> good

Let us know what is going on so we can advise them

Can't help if everythings a secret

[stray gull]

In agreement that changes should be discussed openly before development time is spent.

[winter dagger]

Hopefully just ironing out bugs rest of the game seems really good, especially state of the current meta lots of viable teams

[smoky python]

Game is really really bad right now. It's not just a bugs issue. Major changes need to , and hopefully will, take place

[winter dagger]

Like what else apart from the obvious bugs and crashes?

[smoky python]

I've elaborated a lot on this in the past but if you don't currently know then you probably wouldn't understand anyways

Like Nick said the team is working on it and I hope they post some more details on their thoughts moving forward soon so I can tell them if they are on the right track or not.

[olive hedge]

SJUD the all knowing, keeper of the track

[smoky python]

🫡

[winter dagger]

where abouts, would love to get a different opinion

[smoky python]

Cliffnotes:
Legendary augment system is terrible
Deck size is too small
Games are too short
Game is essentially just a flowchart with very little skill expression and decided on the matchup screen
Then you have the bugs, crashes, balance issues

[winter dagger]

True I forgot about legendary augments totally agree would love some big changes on that.
Wouldnt mind bigger deck too and I think that would probably also fix your 4th point too as would create the opportunity for different tactics/combinations depending on the opposing team

[olive hedge]

ok now say something nice about the game 😁

[smoky python]

Graphics and art is completely insane

[winter dagger]

I dont agree its "low skill" though, I can copy Viper or Web3 gamings team and still only get to 1800 because real time I wont always choose augments as well or position as well as them. But yes there are certain matchups you get that is basically a 90% win/loss chance before game even starts

[smoky python]

Unfortunately fixes made to my above points would only make the game "better" imo and not "good"
kind of like putting lipstick on a pig to pretty it up

[zenith mist]

@stray gull appreciate your regular engagement with the community mate, you're an asset to the team 🤝

[olive hedge]

I love PvP, I like the length of the games and I have no clue what skill expression means but I find that I win or lose by little mistakes which is addicting

[smoky python]

Completely agree with this. The actual MVP of the team.

[smoky python]

And your rank?

[olive hedge]

I will let you guess

[worldly jolt]

Sjud does not care about us silver bois

[smoky python]

It's important that you like the game and find it fun but from a quality and high level standpoint doesnt carry much weight.

Needs to have both sides

[worldly jolt]

Agreed. I don’t know how the game even works.

That’s why I’m silver.

[smoky python]

If we can nail it so that casual and low ranked players enjoy the game and high level competitive players think the game is good at an esports quality level then we've got a real winner

Unfortunately thats not what we have

[olive hedge]

yet!

[stray gull]

🫡 my life for aiur!

...maybe that was a little obscure for those who haven't played Star Craft ha ha, ah well 😓

[smoky python]

And that's why I'm still here. Even if I think the chances are slim I've still got a bit of hope things can turn around (especially if they listen to me more)

[olive hedge]

I think you have a God complex 🤣

[smoky python]

ILV God checking in. Unfortunately God of PB2 has left the server.

[olive hedge]

did you stake your council pay or sell?

[smoky python]

I felt obligated to stake some of it. So I have 10 staked. I still have a bit of ilv leftover but I'm looking to dump that soon as well based on how things are going with the game

A lot of long term holders I've talked to have also dumped

[olive hedge]

dummies

[smoky python]

Maybe maybe not

[olive hedge]

they will buy again, anyone who sells is just wasting gas money 🤣

[grand bluff]

@drifting torrent GG on trying to use the bug to reduce all energy xD

[smoky python]

Uhoh bug abuser call out

[olive hedge]

wanna play?

I will send you a custom code

[smoky python]

If you're still awake in like an hour sure

Im at the gym right now

I'll send you a message when I'm back

[olive hedge]

alright I might be

[grand bluff]

Yeah all in techno leecher plus gain 20 energy on omega on Ryplance.

[olive hedge]

what is techno leecher?

[smoky python]

When you cast omega drain energy of opposing team

It's supposed to be based off the unit you put it on energy

But it's bugged and taking a percentage of opposing units

[olive hedge]

aww so thats why im losing 🤣

[smoky python]

Hahah

[olive hedge]

if i lose its because the game is not balanced yet, facts

[smoky python]

The augment is so bad as read that nobody bothered playing with it until now

Turns out the bug makes it op

[olive hedge]

i dont even wanna know the augment, cause then i will be cheating and thats no fun

[smoky python]

Wen patch

Also a tip for the QA team. Whenever there is an augment or omega or whatever created and/or changed, go into a match and check to see if it is working as intended

Free advice from the ILV God

[worldly jolt]

What god gets paid for anything? Nvm. Sensitive topic.

[smoky python]

Paid in prayers 🙏

[worldly jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/amanchabukswar-gif-22608927

[grand bluff]

Actually it isn't so bad on Tsunami-team's Axodon because Axodon has 200 max energy and it reduces by quite a lot... But using it on a 40 max energy Ryplance + gain 20 energy on omega = never omega for the opponent 🙂

[olive hedge]

I dont have any clue what you just said 🤣

[grand bluff]

It's aight, just have fun.

[fallen vortex]

Every time Ryplance casts it removes 12% of the energy of all enemies. And with the other augment it casts every 2 seconds.

Its supposed to be removing like 5 energy

12% from Axodon/Rhamphyre/Titanor is more like 20+

[stray gull]

@SerjiroSan

https://tenor.com/view/trash-garbage-dumpster-gif-22255810

[bronze spire]

yea just tested again defs bugged. Unless its as intended and too OP

[grand bluff]

No wonder the Tsunami teams lose to mud mystic 🙂

[reef basalt]

I wonder if its possible to just turn off an augment when theres a game breaking bug

That way people are just forced to not use it until its fixed

[smoky python]

They could also just fix it

[bronze spire]

yea Ive been crediting suppressors but must be leecher. Even putting it on aapon is probs too op

[grand bluff]

Me too, I first thought it was the suppressors, but no... It's the Ryplance. I've given up using Tsunami as it seems most people always have one Leecher for Ryplance.