💰〕token

[sage haven]

[jagged fulcrum]

Yeah not QE I expect fiscal stimulus from Trumps OBBBA.

Could boost growth by 1-1.2%

I don't include the tariff divided in my outlook due to the current uncertainty around IEEPA tariffs.

[sage haven]

Witness.

Witness.

[coral meteor]

Doesn't that mean that if the graph goes back to normal levels btc goes down?

[sage haven]

Look at dxy lol

[narrow creek]

Me don’t know what that is

[sage haven]

bruh.

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-dumb-patrick-gif-14083147

Dollar index chart got it

[ornate crescent]

March fly in and new ILV ALTL...great job IMCaballeros...confidence is off the charts!

[coral meteor]

It's so close to 0 it's optimistic, can't go much more down

[sage haven]

Seed price is being defended

with btc looking like it wants to bounce, im not expecting it to go lower for now. maybe later if btc make new low. Closer to $1

as you can see none of the "hype" effort has noticable effect on price. this suggest lack of trust

[ornate crescent]

Better pray no MORE AMAWEAKs or you support will be exhausted.

[sage haven]

i think i underestimated how much smart money listen to people like me

[sage haven]

btw take note the influencers who shilled power

[quiet thorn]

Nice pump today

[sage haven]

Witness.

you dont need bullsht like GDP this, unemployment that, earnings bla bla bla.
just use your eyes and see the chart.
charts dont lie, headlines do

news and headlines are used to stir retail emotion. the truth is in the candle and volume

Investors DGAF about a page long chatgpt macro analysis, they just need to know when to buy and when to sell

you see how these reports are so ambiguos?
"Oh yea keep buying, but it's volatile, sorry if you get rekt, but dnt sell, just keep paying the brokerage and management fee for my second holiday house. WAGMI"

https://tenor.com/view/trollszn123-fugazi-gif-18268217

[jagged fulcrum]

Really you do, you need to use a totality of data sets, relying solely on TA puts you at a disadvantage.

“I never learned all the fundamentals I needed to learn in terms of analysis. So I relied heavily — and my mentor was really into it, and back then nobody was doing it — on technical analysis. And I learned all the intricate details of it.
I can unequivocally tell you that technical analysis is about 20% as effective today as it was then because no one was using it. But when everybody’s using it, it doesn’t work anymore because you don’t have a unique thing to act against. So it’s kind of sad because it’s easy, and you can be lazy. You don’t have to work that hard. Just look at a chart instead of going into a 10-Q and all this other stuff. But technical analysis is a problem.”-Stanley Druckenmiller

[sage haven]

imagine saying fundamental analysis is harder lol.
anyone with a phone can just ask any free LLM to analyse tradingeconomics

i repeat, investors just need to know one thing.
Buy or sell.

[jagged fulcrum]

From your expert and extensive investment experience managing money....

[sage haven]

hows your management on ILV and MON investment

expert and extensive experience managing money......

[jagged fulcrum]

People that underperform the index usually do so due to investors requiring tighter risk management. You are a discord troll and self confessed degen Jag.

[sage haven]

i quoted Google Gemini

Jim Simons
"We search through historical data to find anomalies."
"Models don’t have opinions."
"We don’t trade on news; we trade on numbers."
"Patterns exist, but they’re subtle."

• Google Gemini

[jagged fulcrum]

Systematic quant models are used almost everywhere alongside other analysis.

Many use all the tools not just rely on one, hybrid approaches.

Renaissance used little to no traditional TA.

If you want to learn or see good examples of systematic models Jungle Rock run by a friend offers good insight across different baskets.

[manic arrow]

Im just here because I believe in the tech

[verbal cove]

Im here for the endless vacuum cockfights

[uncut silo]

Im here because i wish i took profit earlier

[manic arrow]

That just took me out

I still cant believe how big the bag was that the land holders got fked with

[coral meteor]

I'm here because I bought a piece of virtual land 6 years ago, with promises that 3 weeks later I would start getting profits

I am not the smartest it seems

[manic arrow]

Heh, sucker

Gonna buy back in though now

Seems like we are at or pretty close to the bottom. Get some land and tokens and see if they can figure this game out

[sage haven]

i dont disagree that bottom is close. maybe half here and the rest for the remaining of the bear.
march relief rally is a thing

[manic arrow]

Well I'll be taking a shot at illuvium again - its a long shot but we need a quality crypto game. All these other "games" are pixelated garbage that put tokens before gameplay

Aint trying to play games that look like they are from 1980

[sage haven]

well pixelated game like stardew village has a huge success tho.
hand drawn side scrolling like hollow knight too

it's never about the format or graphic. it's always about the gameplay

[manic arrow]

Why not both

[sage haven]

im here because of people who didnt

[manic arrow]

Its 2026, I dont want to squint at a bunch of pixels. It looks terrible.

[sage haven]

im guessing u havent played bastion or hades?

BD3 is pretty squinty

[manic arrow]

I mess with treeverse

[sage haven]

oof

[manic arrow]

Its mobile mmo, hack and slash. Feels ok to play. Looks decent.
Tried ravenquest and just couldn't anymore. Looks so shitty

[sage haven]

treeverse is just too low budget and im pretty sure loopify is not a dev or have the passion for it.

[manic arrow]

But it scratches the itch for now for me anyway, big plus mobile

[sage haven]

try bastion

then transistor

[manic arrow]

Will check them out thanks

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-lonely-rain-sad-gif-7792030237214898863

[sage haven]

"I wish I bought more" season

[sage haven]

The current narrative is "AI agent will use Bitcoin" 😂

See how narrative is following the chart.
Show me the chart and ill show you the news.

[north tartan]

Bought the dip 💪 i dont trust euros or dollars. Btc ftw

[sage haven]

called this move 3 weeks ago by using my eyes on the chart.
and btc is pumping while the middle east is in ashes, S&P rolling over, KOSPI (korea) down by 15%, metals dumping, and dxy pumping

[sage haven]

smart money was accumulating. number of wallet with more than 100 btc is at ATH

now that is technical analysis. just open glassnode, see how the wallets behave while mainstream media were calling the death of bitcoin

[coral meteor]

So what now back to the road to 48k?

[inner quest]

Just ones that look like bad ones from 2018?

[coral meteor]

Horizons game skyweaver ended up going open source

Best tcg I've ever played btw

And it failed🥲

Blockchain ended up being a liability rather than an advantage

[sage haven]

Max 85-93

[coral meteor]

📝

[sage haven]

i think 60k-85k/93k-48k for summer to october-then new cycle

160k 2029 september

[narrow creek]

You really think we’re getting back to 85k in the bear

[coral meteor]

Thanks

[sage haven]

ETH 5k by 2029

and just ranging in between

[narrow creek]

We’re in the bear and you think bitcoin will pump up to 85k-93k 🤔 just going off how bitcoin performed in the past?

[sage haven]

it pumped 40% in the bear

[narrow creek]

Can’t believe this used to be $140. Jag were you around for $1900

[north tartan]

I did stake from 50-1900 and back go 100 😂

[sage haven]

no. was here from $500

[silent moth]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-darkness-depression-fml-gif-10753679

[sage haven]

Wife changing money

[narrow creek]

Lol if she doesn’t want you at your lowest. She doesn’t deserve you at your highest

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-kitty-depressed-guangdang-sad-meow-gif-2548323962849249220

[fathom cradle]

Closed my short on power 2 hours before the rug 🙁

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/not-good-enough-gif-6609432645851959699

[sage haven]

Im guessing ur single?

[sage haven]

oof.
did rhey really rug?

[fathom cradle]

https://x.com/PowerPrtcl/status/2029261041822048550?s=20

Power Protocol (@PowerPrtcl)

In response to events occurring over the past 48 hours, there are some things we would like to address.

On December 11th, 30,000,000 tokens were transferred to a partner to provide liquidity in case of unexpected volume surges and potential additional trading venues. These

X · Mar 4, 2026, 6:21 PM

thats their explanation, there was big unlocks but this is beyond that

[sage haven]

lol the partner is just him on a different tab

[warm nebula]

if i ever need dark humor i know where to go

[manic arrow]

Yeahhhhh I thought that was fableborne

Dang

[azure cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/dump-it-gif-26704933

[coral meteor]

You mean like luggis?

I think that was his nickname

[quasi wyvern]

Does Luggis still have tokens?

[fathom cradle]

yea it was, one of the few people pointed at with hope for gaming haha

[fathom cradle]

dont think so but not 100% sure

[sage haven]

no.
im talking about fableborne pump and dump scheme

[coral meteor]

I have no idea who that is but I was jokingly suggesting luggis was actually Kieran or something

[sage haven]

lol no

[sage haven]

so you're telling that the Legendary Peter fckin Thiel exited TSLA, MSFT & AAPL at the end of 2025 and recently he sold $290m of PLTR, but your favorite fund manager told you to hodl?

[manic arrow]

Yeah come on who else gonna hold the bag. The whole thing is a fkin scam

[cloud marten]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[manic arrow]

Read the news - listen to the big players, get rekt

[deep veldt]

]

[narrow creek]

What is this man up to 🤔 he’s selling everything

[sage haven]

hes absorbing the life force of the people around him

[narrow creek]

That is what you call false prayers. They don’t care about God

Sold their souls

[stiff stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-gif-5111338745644474401

[sage haven]

fck oil at 90

[sage haven]

last time oil supply got disrupted we had 2022 bear

https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2029912852018937897?s=46&t=-UbHGHoHpEdU8K3dt_g8mA

The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter)

BREAKING: The US economy unexpectedly LOSES -92,000 jobs in February, below expectations of a +58,000 gain.

The unemployment rate was 4.4%, above expectations of 4.3%.

This marks just the 2nd monthly job loss since the 2020 pandemic.

The US labor market is clearly weakening.

X · Mar 6, 2026, 1:31 PM

what do you call a low gdp with high inflation

[narrow creek]

Im not looking forward to gas being $5 a gallon

A lot of companies are laying people off here. We are so winning. Thank you orange man. Where is my tariff check

[narrow creek]

Heck isnt it already close to $7 a gallon in Cali @hazy orchid ?

[hazy orchid]

Please stop

and never talk again

[narrow creek]

RIP

This is in Orange County apparently smh

[wide mango]

cheap af

[hazy orchid]

Its actually not terribel for Diesel

its about 5$

it was coming down

but alas summer is coming

and good weather brings tourists which brings higher gas

[narrow creek]

Bro don’t complain about it being cold in Cali

[hazy orchid]

plus the other outside stuff

[hazy orchid]

Oh i would never lol

I hate the snow

and being cold

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/weirded-out-hank-hill-king-of-the-hill-revival-confused-puzzled-gif-18224465492850955933

[wide mango]

multiply that by 2.4 and you are as expensive as it is here 😄

[narrow creek]

Bro no 🤯

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gone-gif-16720761030809438213

No bagels and gas is around $10 a gallon. Time to bounce?

[hazy orchid]

Yeah but you guys dont HAVE TO drive

you live biking distance to everything no?

wait thats Rogier a

haha

[wide mango]

depends how you define everything i guess 😄
but yea the population density is high

[hazy orchid]

Yeah not here

at least where i am

[wide mango]

https://giphy.com/gifs/alone-mountain-penguin-gU6DP0TtuksilJ788b

[narrow creek]

lol

[hazy orchid]

Kinda but either green or brown

depending on summer or winter

[wide mango]

i mean... we have too people not living where stuff is withing biking distance...

[narrow creek]

That would actually be dope

[granite elm]

i mean... they wan it or not, everything is walking distance there, even if its 50km lol

[wide mango]

it's actually a restaurant 😄

[wide mango]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ap6wcjRyi8HoA

[narrow creek]

Prolly $200 for a steak

[wide mango]

na, not even that expensive... we had to go there multiple times each summer when i was a kid... could get a good meal for 30 bucks.
But the menu was very limited due to food supply problematic obviously

[narrow creek]

Ahh that’s reasonable price. See not everything is expensive in Switzerland

[hazy orchid]

Pretty awesome

[wide mango]

https://giphy.com/gifs/CulturaJubile-cultura-medium-9xijGdDIMovchalhxN

[wide mango]

yea, but these days it's totally overrun... some dude had to put it on insta and now every tourist wants a selfy up there

[narrow creek]

Gotta love social media.

One thing I learned today… Spoon doesn’t skip leg day

[hazy orchid]

One thing I learned today... Token chat isnt all bad

[wide mango]

many people do a little bit of hiking here and there in switzerland... the scenery is great to enjoy

[hazy orchid]

lol

just saw this

[narrow creek]

Bro no

[wide mango]

we even have a lonely mountain where the dwarfes live

[hazy orchid]

Looks too cold for me

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/freezing-elmo-meme-it's-cold-winter-shivering-snowing-gif-12639548316257805494

[narrow creek]

Fun fact… I saw one of the main reasons why Hitler didn’t invade was because of all the mountains in Switzerland. Would of wasted too many resources for such a small country

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[wide mango]

especially because of the fortress the military made out of the mountains 😄
Some wild shit up there still standing to this day like artillery in houses 😄

😄

[narrow creek]

lol yeah Hitler was like… we can be friends with them no need to mess with them.

[hazy orchid]

I want that

[wide mango]

there are whole docus on youtube about the bunker /artillery network in the swiss mountains, it's was really wild to the times of 2nd ww and cold war the mined all important bridges to be ready to blow up and send most of the people into the mountains + bunkers. 😄

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-i-got-this-im-ready-bring-it-gif-23029653

[true tree]

Then there is Canada. It is cold, expensive and vast.
Thankfully I save on gas by being a hermit.

[narrow creek]

The west coast is beautiful. Great views

[cloud lotus]

Dont go to vancouver though its a zombie land

[narrow creek]

Dangit man. The wokeness destroyed that city huh

[cloud lotus]

Idk what it is but i was there for a day between flights last month and the city was full of homeless people on hard drugs. I think they all go there because its very hot compared to the rest of the country + largest city west

Crossing an intersection one of them blew some crack or whatever smoke in my gf's face and her throat and eyes burned for like 30mins. Needless to say we are never going out the airport there again

[narrow creek]

Jeeze bro. That’s a horrible experience. Heard it’s been going downhill. Portland is the same way.

https://tenor.com/view/get-woke-go-broke-gif-4611980149843371880

[hazy orchid]

lol that’s just every major city in the states

[narrow creek]

Sad

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-the-end-is-near-apocalypse-gif-7204975

[cloud lotus]

Yea maybe im not used to big cities ahah im near ottawa and montreal (canada) but i dont really go in those cities

[hazy orchid]

People won’t be able to afford to drive in Cali soon

[narrow creek]

They’ll just open another charge card

https://tenor.com/view/were-rich-jack-harlow-wasted-youth-song-we-got-cash-lots-of-money-gif-4008713716352412007

[hazy orchid]

Free gas card credit for Californians

lol

You just have to pay it back later

[wide mango]

is that actually a thing?

[narrow creek]

I don’t think so lol. But it doesn’t cost anything to keep opening credit cards. So many people here in America are in debt.

I knew a guy that had a crap load of credit cards maxed out. No one knew till he died. His wife had them all written off.

[sage haven]

u guys dnt drive electric vehicles?

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusted-ew-that-look-he-gives-gross-gag-gif-17228959905536428194

I want a Tesla honestly, I have solar. But alas. The wife doesn’t like them and can’t work so I don’t need one.

[hazy orchid]

Basically, that’s how people flaunt wealth in America. Go into massive crippling debt and act like they are rich when they aren’t

The American dream

Oh you have a 120k$ truck!? So cool bro! How much is the payment on that?

• 3000$/month

including insurance?

• no that’s another 300$/mo

What about fuel?

• kms

They want you to own nothing and be happy

They even planning on starting 50 year mortgages like that helps anyone lol

[narrow creek]

Cooked

https://tenor.com/view/gosling-sad-gosling-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-snow-gosling-snow-gif-6845320348811377304

Then we got girls becoming millionaires on Onlyfans. Wild times

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/sophie-rain-aishah-sofey-tiktok-girls-blonde-tiktok-dance-gif-99587579057021701

[hazy orchid]

They losing jobs to AI too

Hope they can dig holes

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/sophie-rain-sophie-rain-tiktok-18-gif-14861002916622117049

[hazy orchid]

You have this girl favorited or something @sage haven lol

Don’t send her all your crypto

Or do whatever

[narrow creek]

@sage haven is losing his money to a AI girlfriend

[sage haven]

its sophie rain

shes a goddess

[narrow creek]

Get help

[sage haven]

She is

[narrow creek]

Jag no

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/sophie-rain-gif-11952840834237590241

[narrow creek]

Rip jag

[coral meteor]

Really you are not even going to mention AI as a factor here?

[sage haven]

my brain is shrinking.
i literally ask gemini about everything. and when in doubt i compare the answers with chatgpt. cant function without them

i just want to hook my body to LLM and let them run me

[coral meteor]

I'm even asking gpt for cool answers to tinder dates or Instagram stories

[narrow creek]

All I see is a headache that gets off on dudes spending their paychecks

[coral meteor]

It works

[sage haven]

Well yea because they use gpts too lol

[coral meteor]

LOL

[sage haven]

its basically just two LLMs flirting with each other

[coral meteor]

Soon AIs will do the chatting, we'll do the dating only

[sage haven]

guys try perplexity

[hazy orchid]

Or just grow up and use openclaw

[sage haven]

u gave your password to a bot?

[hazy orchid]

You think a girl wants to date you? She’s gonna date your ai

[hazy orchid]

Bruh I’m already hooked in

https://tenor.com/view/neo-plugging-to-matrix-gif-20199605

You’re not even speaking to Rich anymore

[sage haven]

fccck ok ok im going in too

[hazy orchid]

Ask me something only Rich would know

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-wtf-matrix-the-matrix-blink182-gif-11308275628706487257

[narrow creek]

I don’t even know you guys anymore

[sage haven]

What is your seed phrase

[hazy orchid]

Which one

I have probably have 100+

[sage haven]

the one on your cryptotag

[hazy orchid]

lol ok

It’s empty ass wallet like the rest

Hold please

Dm it to you

Please don’t steal my shitcoins

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-cooked-we-are-cooked-gg-ggs-gif-10973716785212391451

[hazy orchid]

They are worth at least sub 1¢

Combined

[compact robin]

Is there a quick way to move our recently unlocked ilv tokens on zkevm over to the staking chain? Is it base? I can't remember.

Or do we have to go zkevm - eth - base - then stake?

[narrow creek]

So men and women are talking to each other using AI lol wild. Whatever happened to the days when we would do cold approaches. 😂

[hazy orchid]

It’s hilarious all my hardware wallets combined, ledgers nano and x, the crypto tag , the grid. Are all worth more than all my crypto lol

EPIC

[sage haven]

Lmao did u spend it all on onlyfans?

[hazy orchid]

No ser Im married

I just round tripped 3 cycles

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-gif-3425669563334334864

[compact robin]

This is 95% of degens

[hazy orchid]

Well married for now until the missus finds out

https://tenor.com/view/blah-blah-whatever-bye-talking-kid-gif-17923976

[sage haven]

You can send me what u have left and ill double it

[narrow creek]

So is jag but that didn’t stop him from spending all his money on sophie rain. Smh

[sage haven]

she need it for college

[hazy orchid]

I’m showing my daughter Monty python for the first time lol gonna be a good night

[hazy orchid]

Ai replaces her college degree though ser even if you pay for it

[sage haven]

she said shes gonna be a plumber

[narrow creek]

https://x.com/GodsBurnt/status/2030024959808995447?s=20

Shibo (@GodsBurnt)

This is Anthropic’s map of which jobs AI will eliminate first.

If you’re in the red, you’re on borrowed time.

Your degrees have never been more useless than they are today.

The company building the AI is telling you exactly what’s coming.

Are you paying attention?

X · Mar 6, 2026, 8:57 PM

[hazy orchid]

Yeah I’m marked safe

[narrow creek]

Bruh that’s ancient lol

[hazy orchid]

Sent that to someone literally today lol

[sage haven]

Damn i cant even change a tyre

[hazy orchid]

RIP

[narrow creek]

lol

[hazy orchid]

Maybe you can dance on instagram with an AI Thot body

[sage haven]

Personal care is like a massage right

[hazy orchid]

Yes

I think

[sage haven]

i can do that. I know some loaded grannies

[hazy orchid]

Maybe like personal trainers?

I feel like that’s not very safe either

[narrow creek]

Yeah they’ll have certain bots that will take care of all your needs very soon. Men won’t even want a real woman.

Blade runner 👀

[hazy orchid]

I mean the only benefit I see is if you buy the personal trainer bot at least you can program it so he doesn’t steal your wife while training her?

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/you-don't-like-real-girls-you-don't-even-smile-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-gif-6221188828497946464

[hazy orchid]

Shit what was that remake with Colin Ferrell?

The future movie

Where she had 3 boobs lol

Crack up

[narrow creek]

Ohhhhh

[hazy orchid]

That’s actually a good remake

[narrow creek]

Good luck chuck?

Maybe not I don’t think that was a remake

[hazy orchid]

Total Recall

[narrow creek]

Oh wow we were not on the same page at all lol. I just remember watching good luck chuck when I was a kid and that’s when I saw a girl with 3…. Yeah 💀

[narrow creek]

Nah it’s all bad

[sage haven]

Pretty sure theres no 3 boob girl in good luck chuck

[narrow creek]

The ending

[hazy orchid]

I think he’s right actually

[narrow creek]

I am. I’ll never fg

[hazy orchid]

The chubby dude was obsessed

Or was that mall cop

With Paul blart

[sage haven]

ru sure its not a machete kills

[hazy orchid]

Same dude

Danny Trejo is an OG or was

[sage haven]

are we like free LLMs right now

[hazy orchid]

Basically

Send me money

For answering questions

[sage haven]

dude i subs all of the models.

[hazy orchid]

Oh you have 2 questions? Double it

[narrow creek]

Well I’m muted

[hazy orchid]

Now see if I’m right about total recall. I’m outta tokens

[hazy orchid]

Eh I’m the only one here now you’re marked safe for now

[sage haven]

Have u seen this episode from black mirror called common people

[narrow creek]

I’ll never fg that seen I was like. YOOOOOOOOOOOO

[hazy orchid]

I saw all of them

Not sure which one

That is

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-gif-975489253273843974

[sage haven]

the wife got a tumor and she need to subs to stay alive

u should see my apple subs lol. fkcing vampires

[narrow creek]

Rich wild

[narrow creek]

What makes you say that? Never had Apple TV

[hazy orchid]

Why would you

Get flixtor

[narrow creek]

Boot leg streaming site lol

Going to get viruses. Already have enough of those jkjkjk

[sage haven]

app store subscription. I got them all streaming services, LLMs

[narrow creek]

Jag needs to be studied

[hazy orchid]

I got grandfathered in like 10 years ago for 50$

[sage haven]

brazzer
What what

[hazy orchid]

Even AI doesn’t want to do that dirty job

[narrow creek]

How can jag still afford all the streaming services after paying sophie rain college tuition.

When she isn’t even going to college. She in france on some yacht

[hazy orchid]

Maybe Jag is uber rich

[narrow creek]

Nah not in Australia… maybe he’s…

A Indian scammer

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/indian-meme-indian-guy-indian-meme-tuff-gif-17449687295227939133

[sage haven]

this is how pseudo market analyst will fail. They are following lagging indicators, need data confirmation, which will be way too late.
Congrats oil is at $90, unemployment (not) surprise while GDP is way lower than expected. Soon global fear will creep in. This is trump's tariff playbook all over again

do you know what AI really really depends on?

Energy.

[sage haven]

https://x.com/lisaabramowicz1/status/2029913571732099460?s=46&t=-UbHGHoHpEdU8K3dt_g8mA

Lisa Abramowicz (@lisaabramowicz1)

A central banker's nightmare: inflationary pressure plus job destruction.

X · Mar 6, 2026, 1:34 PM

https://tenor.com/view/trump-trump-epstein-trump-funny-donald-trump-trump-south-park-gif-17322271067605730972

[ornate crescent]

"Team" could we pick up the pace, or just do a final distribution to the stake? EOM

[hazy orchid]

I mean it’s crazy, I built a mobile app and launched it on TestFlight on a Saturday 2 weeks ago. Then I was like well if I wait a month gpt codex update will come out and will be even better. so I haven’t updated it again yet but probably gonna go throw gpt 5.4 at it

[ornate crescent]

Google’s Antigravity is insane. Probably could cook up Zero in under 2 hours. Pro Devs who actually ship reviewed Zero for me and said the efficacy of the code is entry level at best.

[hazy orchid]

Anti gravity you say

For what? Coding or deep thinking? Both?

[ornate crescent]

Vibes the full scope of the project, builds the bots with Gemini, Claude, and Sonnet, then ships the code to Google Cloud

[hazy orchid]

Hmm I’ll have to check it out

[prime canopy]

Is gpt or grok better for coding?

Or Claude I guess, I wanted to but haven’t looked into it yet

[hazy orchid]

I’d say Opus is best overall but very expensive so I use combination of Claude - Opus, haiku, sonnet and then for the actually coding been trying at times to use codex gpt because Pedro said it was superior but I’m not a dev and maybe it is but imo opus still best

[hazy orchid]

I haven’t tried grok in awhile because I found its interactions just odd honestly

[prime canopy]

Thx good to know, I was mostly using grok cause the premium thing was free on the x sub anyways.

[hazy orchid]

I mean depends how deep you wanna dive haha

Like I made 3 websites and a iOS app now and fully deployed AWS backends for everything

And I’ve used a bunch at this point

Well not me

My boi Balroth

You see who his PFP is? He’s constantly aura farming

[ornate crescent]

DeepMind access for plebs now via AntigravitydotGoogle & Firebase Studios. Sonnet & Opus 4.6 are bundled with Antgravity, which can be accessed with a Google One Pro account. Musk Inc is coming in May... It's a two-horse race IMO...but Anthropic & OpenAI could surprise.

[quasi wyvern]

My Dev mates have a semi over Opus 4.6...

https://youtu.be/JKk77rzOL34?si=B2CwrDG9rgkaCHx-

[ornate crescent]

Antigravity has 4.6 integrated and fully employable

[hazy orchid]

Google one is the Gemini sub

That has all the flow ai stuff?

I think I have this too

[hazy orchid]

Hmm gonna have to look into more.. not a fan of openclaw?

Or are all of the models and tokens included with that sub? Like is it more cost efficient

[ornate crescent]

Claw is not in the same league. I have never had a token limit placed on my account. This might could save ILV if you guys could get humble and hungry...I see neither from the AMAs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbxq88TOxp4

[hazy orchid]

Hmm I guess I’ll be diving deep tonight. But I also don’t control such decisions I am but a simple man

Live footage of my brain

https://tenor.com/view/brain-erase-erasing-taking-out-take-out-gif-26488680

[ornate crescent]

Extremely powerful marketplace that will grow exponentially

You got King K's ear. We need a radical pivot for whatever the hell has been happening the last 18+ months and fast.

[hazy orchid]

It’s so crazy though how fast these things are moving, like literally day to day something new is coming out, so antigravity is just gonna be the only saas that you need? I find it hard to believe 1 vs other is so much better. I mean even in that video he’s using v0 which is another sub in itself, I will say it’s pretty good with UI I use it as well. I’m not saying you’re wrong with antigravity being best right now I’m just saying how do we keep up with what’s the latest greatest haha

@ornate crescent

[drifting crystal]

I’m using gpt 3.5 codex and that’s been really good

[hazy orchid]

Damn Mr dev over here

[narrow creek]

Is it overwhelming lol

[drifting crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hangover-humor-laughs-gif-13892034040121756902

[azure cliff]

A 2 horse race between Google and who?

[azure cliff]

Antigravity has a higher life expectancy so it sounds like a good idea to bet on it in the long term if we don't want to change our workflow 6 times per year

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-automaton-robot-laptop-oil-gif-15529904519356806769

[ornate crescent]

MACROHARD

[azure cliff]

What a cool name

I wonder when we will have AI-generated operating systems in real time

[ornate crescent]

This center will consume more power than the City of LA in 12-18 months. Has more coherent H100s compute than Microsoft (OpenAI), Meta, and Anthorpic combined

Google has its TPUs Cloud already scaling. Musk has TSMC and Samsung building his Dojo silicon that should go into production next year. Nobody else has shit for hardware besides being beholding to NVDA

[sage haven]

Looks like everyone can have their own production studio on their laptop.
Have you tried notebookLLM? You can already make social content

Remember how bookstores got wiped off by amazon, and CD/DVD stores got wiped off by itunes, netflix

[hazy orchid]

What’s next jag

Enlighten us

I member burning cds

Limewire

Waiting all day to download lil Wayne albums before he was famous, and wait in school hoping mom didn’t pick up the phone and kill the download while I was at school

[narrow creek]

Dial up were the days

[ornate crescent]

Iomega Zip drive and eMule

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/aol-gif-10522865

Now I just don’t know what to believe on social media. Grok is getting tired

[hazy orchid]

lol I member having lan parties playing CS and TFC and like 5 of my buddies trying to chat with girls on AOL… was probably all 60 year old pervs lol

[narrow creek]

lol

[drifting crystal]

Msn mesenger where you'd go "offline" and then "online" again so it's show up on their screen 🤣

[narrow creek]

You got mail

[analog crow]

Crazy rizz back in the day

[hazy orchid]

Simpler times

Losing at the lan party? Unplug your buddies cable

Winner

[narrow creek]

What the heck is a Ian party

[hazy orchid]

lol

[narrow creek]

Uh oh

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/party-basically-homeless-bottle-look-stare-gif-22571193

[narrow creek]

lol oh

Now we are using ai to talk to each other. I don’t even think jag is real

[hazy orchid]

[diagnostic] lane task error: lane=session:agent:gpt<durationMs=166 error="FailoverError: Unknown model: openai-codex/gpt-5.4"

Oops

Sorry

Gateway Restarted

Hi I’m Rich

[narrow creek]

💀

[hazy orchid]

I like ducks and tortillas and making bread

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-bot-noob-bot-you-are-noob-ur-noob-gif-22801538

[sage haven]

our kids will grow up depending on AI. They wont know how to think.
Let that sink in.

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/john-connor-terminator2-were-not-gif-8118377

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/hal9000-hal-2001a-space-odyssey-2001-gif-12987421

[earnest abyss]

Jaganite still here? I will come back at next year

[manic arrow]

Bring your TV and Xbox over to buddies house. Split screen is for noobs

[wide mango]

i rather call them legends

[jagged fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/msn-nudge-nudge-wlm-nudge-windows-live-messenger-gif-10098409459864176660

[wispy warren]

Need some help with valuation, what mc and token can we see in a real bull market for this again? Contrast from 1700 dollar to 3,4 dollar 🤣 since we here nyodling, i do belive in us long term

[sage haven]

really depends on if they can raise money again. i think $10 is really generous assuming nothing change

atm $3 is being well defended as i correctly predicted again. it's gonna take btc to trade below $60k (final flush) to 35-48k for ilv to trade below imo

again, price is not responding to supposedly bullish announcements.

i start seeing many people having those levels as their btc bottom, we might not get it tho.
buying around previous cycle top has always been a good buy.

i do expect some kind of 10-15% dip on S&P500 to 5700 amid global fear on oil supply, higher than expected unemployment and lower than expected gdp. While the charts is rolling over, below 1D 50ema. On HTF 1W rsi is breaking below 50.
if we do get a correction, i expect trump to start tweeting about peace talk/negotiation as part of his playbook.

[ornate crescent]

Gosh darn, found a fun project to help with refining my antigravity skills. Going to start with the 11:30pm IMC wallets.

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-terminator-arnold-hasta-la-vista-beby-gif-18770669

[true tree]

Humans are always their own worst enemy.

[hazy orchid]

People need more ducks

[true tree]

And cows. I just spent an hour brushing a cow. Very therapeutic.

[hazy orchid]

My ducks are fully swimming and diving

Feathers incoming

[true tree]

I love their ugly duckling stage as their feathers come in. Where is the swimming video???

[hazy orchid]

I changed their water today

I’ll send one tomorrow

It’s gonna be 80°+ next week

[sage haven]

When the base case for S&P 500 remains 7700 - 8000

A fundamental analyst asked me, "hey jag, how did you correctly call the correction in S&P 500 when the totality of data was not available yet. nobody predicted oil to go above $100."
i answered, "i use my eyes on the charts."

[true tree]

Meanwhile I got a foot of snow today.

[sage haven]

Btc is holding well so far

[narrow creek]

Mhm. I wonder if we’ll even get 50k range since war won’t bring it down.

[hazy orchid]

Jag are you a billionaire yet with all these amazing calls?

When financial advisor?

[sage haven]

still millionare. most of my net worth is in real estate and private share.
not gonna be a financial advisor, my point is to show people that you dont need to pay one. You just have to learn a bit about the chart and u can ask chatgpt for fundamental

[hazy orchid]

I agree honestly

Most FA will lose their jobs

If not all

[sage haven]

imagine paying fund managers 2% a year to underperform the S&P500

[hazy orchid]

Be my parents: “hey you should use our FA she made us x % over the past y years”

Did you beat inflation?

No

[sage haven]

true story, i was approached by a fund manager. he said he's gonna make me 12% a year, i was like dude the market gave 20% a year for the past 5 years. And ur gonna charge me 1% to buy in and 2% management fee. Fck off

[hazy orchid]

RIP

Alas

He will have a job

Because most people don’t know how to leverage ai yet still

But his days are numbered

Even doctors

You hear about New York lol

[narrow creek]

Okay chill lol

[hazy orchid]

Banning AI in law, health, and finance

To protect you @narrow creek

From ai

Instead of leveraging it, BAN it

lol

[narrow creek]

What you see

[sage haven]

im not saying AI is sentient, but they can find what im looking for in seconds. i was looking a goverment bond with certain ttm range and it picked me one with calculated net yield

[hazy orchid]

Yet

They plugged brain tissue into ai now

And the fruit fly

[sage haven]

anything to do with math and texts will be gone

[hazy orchid]

Again

Here is the chart

From Anthropic

[sage haven]

so far. the robots will come

https://tenor.com/view/chinese-robot-syncope-gif-20000224

[narrow creek]

lol

[sage haven]

ohfck they have started attacking human

I guess my kids gonna have to learn how to work for the robots

[narrow creek]

Reminds me of a video I seen along time ago… a woman scientist was talking about a robot that went rogue in a Japanese lab. Killed 3 people before they could stop it. Let’s see if I can find it. Pretty sure she died shortly after 👀

[sage haven]

ru sure this is not the animatrix

[narrow creek]

Hold up my numbers were completely off. Apparently it’s been debunked

https://tenor.com/view/air-quotes-supposedly-accused-quotations-michael-myers-gif-4790012

[sage haven]

what if this AI is covering it up

[hazy orchid]

See Adrian watching too much bbc

That’s most of the world still

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[sage haven]

are we talking about the same BBC?

[narrow creek]

PAUSE

I’m still wondering why rich brought up fruit fly. Was Kanye right 👀 what’s that tv show which shows bees attacking us

https://tenor.com/view/dr-phil-crazy-paranoid-eyes-gif-13948606

[sage haven]

Drone bees? Pretty sure it's CGI

[narrow creek]

Yeah I know… nvm I’ll dial back my Alex jones

[sage haven]

Black mirror

[narrow creek]

That’s it lol. When I saw it I was like DANG

[sage haven]

Growing old is when you realized that black mirror is a documentary.

[sage haven]

ive started DCA in this range, ill set aside 30% until oct 2026. If it doesnt get there just have to buy higher

[hazy orchid]

Google it

Ai in fruit flys

[narrow creek]

Just looked it up. Yeah they aren’t going to be using it just for the environment.

Wild

[sage haven]

why are people wasting money on fruit flys

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-2-skynet-geometric-rate-gif-7851031145531740514

[hazy orchid]

Bruh eat your bugs and like it

[sage haven]

what we need it is laser guided mosquito killer

[hazy orchid]

Already been done

Damn I thought you were smart jag

Google it

[hazy orchid]

No it’s actually lasers

Shooting mosquitos

[narrow creek]

Bruh google is charging me now for questions.

Way to turn the tables on me Google

[narrow creek]

To spy and conquer our lives. We can’t escape billions of ai fruit flies. We are COOKED

It’s over Jag. What’s the point of owning anything. Bitcoin isn’t real I can’t see it.

lol

[sage haven]

bitcoin is the only currency the AI will use. this is why buying at around 60k is already a blessing

maybe dumb AI like meta will use eth tho idk

[sage haven]

meta is probably the least innovative tech company in the mag7

[sage haven]

black tuesday incoming?
i imagine the bankers are having meeting rn

https://tenor.com/view/sell-it-all-sell-it-all-today-sell-bitcoin-margin-call-sell-btc-today-gif-24645434

[verbal cove]

Last time you expected a nuke we pamped so you tell me

I'm at the bank now trying to get another small loan of 1million dollars

[sage haven]

have you seen oil price

same price action as ukraine war. grok what happened to the stock market the last time oil pumped above $100

[verbal cove]

Its so easy to make money, just ask grok and become filthy rich. I hope people don't find out so only this chat benefits

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-free-money-free-money-gif-8958393

[sage haven]

oh u think the average fund managers know more than free LLMs? What data they dont have access to?

theres no way Google Gemini has access to what people are doing right? right???

i mean the banking industry is hosting their data on their local servers right? there is no way our financial activities are hosted on AWS, it's just ridiculous

i mean the us government obviously didnt use Claude AI for its campaign on iran. thats just science fiction amirite

openAI will not win the US defense contract, like why would they ask AI?

I mean my dad asked chatgpt about his stool color, and ur telling me the greatest military superpower is using the same AI? Whaaaaa

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[verbal cove]

I was told fund managers are the biggest losers and active investing is dying. Generally under performing in terms of return and using the "less risk" excuse to explain it. Maybe they will do better and justify their cost if we keep nuking. That's why I bought $ILV

[sage haven]

they get paid from your deposit lol. and they are incentivised to keep you in

https://tenor.com/view/fairy-dust-fugazzi-wazee-wolf-of-wall-street-gif-6777076745597365451

my background is finance. Finance is an art of faking the numbers to get u a hard on

[verbal cove]

AI is going to give us that hard on real soon

[quiet thorn]

I think we can get nice pump up to 5dol soon. Remember take some profits

[hazy orchid]

But Anthropic said no we won’t lol

[sage haven]

Do i trust leftist AI

[sage haven]

Fox news: short term pain, long term gain.

👀

https://tenor.com/view/impossibru-impossible-gif-15724984

[narrow creek]

Jag is going to make us rich

[sage haven]

whats more disturbing it happened exactly 4 years ago

[narrow creek]

Yeah bro

[azure cliff]

https://x.com/himars/status/2031072298342432949

HIMARS (@himars)

ultimate crypto gaming ranking

1743 crypto games
over 3,773,000,000$ raised (yes 4 billions)

guess how much still alive?

X · Mar 9, 2026, 6:19 PM

This is an insane amount of work, I recognize some Web3 gaming titles that almost nobody knows

[hazy orchid]

I didn’t take the time too look closely but I assumed some were duplicates, but at the same time assuming they aren’t based on how it’s gone haha

Shit can’t take it seriously lol I see fableborne in top right

[azure cliff]

I was wondering about duplicates as well but I didn't find any, regardless these are believable numbers imo

[hazy orchid]

Just crazy how many popped up and died

[azure cliff]

Some of the "alive" games are rather zombie games with almost no players, they just haven't tweeted about them shutting down yet

If there's not much liquidity coming into altcoins this year we might see most games in the "alive" category die before the end of the year, i bet that they are still hanging on the thin hope of an altseason in 2026

[hazy orchid]

Narrator: there was no 2026 alt season

[azure cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/triggered-darkest-dungeon-plague-doctor-gif-18503135

[sage haven]

What is your definition of almost no players?

[silent moth]

Saw only 1 actually duplicated image. A bunch of sideways images. But I do not know many games. But do know of at least 2 that I do not see on the page. One alive (just building) one dead.

[sage haven]

Trump's rule of engagement:
Market open: No War
Market close: Yes War

[verbal cove]

Guys we might have to replace our latest sensei sooner than expected. Who is next in line?

@narrow creek how good are you at drawing lines?

[sage haven]

have u heard about black wednesday?

relax its bouncing of 1D 200ema when trump hinted de escalation

just need more missiles

[grave plover]

This might be a bit different than 2022. At that time oil pumped up and the stock market crashed because everyone anticipated losing about 3 million barrels of oil day because of the war, however that actually didn't happen so they rebounded. We are already actually losing over 3 million a day currently and with the straight of Hormuz closed it will get worse. (It takes a lot of the tankers months to get to the destination so the real supply shock hadn't even come.

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmp-frying-pan-philip-j-fry-futurama-fry-suspect-gif-11486511013200449265

[sage haven]

Different in a good or a bad way

[grave plover]

I mean I'm expecting for sure $150 a barrel. If things don't change and the war continues we could see $200. For me I see it as a bad thing, but market may see it as an opportunity.

[sage haven]

$150 is not too crazy. But $200 is mad max level chaos

[grave plover]

Yeah that happens when strategic reserves start depleting and the straight is still not open, which could potentially happen

Quite a few middle east countries already shut down production because their reserves are full and they can't get the oil out. That also hasn't been felt yet as it's lagging

[sage haven]

maybe its time to get a loan

[sage haven]

Weird that oil dropping on trump's tweet when hormuz is still closed

[grave plover]

Yeah I think it will be volatile and be manipulated a bit for awhile but it will most likely still trend up over the next few months

If they dip into strategic reserves it might drop price for a bit and if they further unsanction some Russian oil that could also drop oil for a bit, but that straight being closed and these countries shutting down production will lead to a huge supply shock in a few months time

[sage haven]

ahh i see, atm they are trying to fill the gap with SPR but it wont last for very long. i dnt see a reason for iran to backdown from this. And no insurance company will take the risk.
i guess this is a goldilock zone

They gonna have to send troops

[grave plover]

Yeah unfortunately. This is going to be Iraq all over again except like 10x worse. They have a way more powerful military than Iraq and that was a complete and utter disaster

[narrow creek]

Nah I don’t think it will be Iraq. Our military knows better. Iran is MUCH bigger and stronger. Will just keep bombing from the air. We won’t put troops on the ground

I don’t even think we have the ground force like we used to.

[grave plover]

Problem with bombing from the air and indiscriminately (like killing all those school girls) only hardens the resolve of the people and makes them hate us more. In that instance it could turn into a forever war because they won't want to stop fighting us

The regime in Iran wasn't wasn't super popular before this but a lot of people in Iran have rallied because of all the innocent people being killed by us

[narrow creek]

War just sucks I agree. I wish it never happened. Military leaders hide behind innocent people. Both sides aren’t innocent. There are also a lot of people in Iran that can’t stand the Iran regime. It’s almost split.

Meanwhile the Ukraine war is still going and Ukraine might not ever have a future again sad. That country is destroyed

US was not honest about that war. “Russia is losing” “Russia is on the ropes” 4 years later ukraine is pulling teenagers off the streets to fight the war.

[grave plover]

Yeah so right now the only winners of the war in Iran is Russia. Now they get to sell oil at crazy high prices and use that money to attack Ukraine. They already have in the last few days

[narrow creek]

Yeah bro, Russia is not dying in fact the opposite. They are the only country right now that won’t cave to sanctions. They can survive on their own. They are rich in resources. Do you remember when Tucker Carlson went over there to interview Putin? Everyone is just fine and prices are actually cheaper there than the US lol

[sage haven]

So, Iran is laying "sea mines" across hormuz. No insurance company will insure the $200-$300m worth of oil tanker.

But S&P 500 base case remains 7700?

[thorn finch]

Why is ILV going up

[sage haven]

beyond wave 5

[brazen void]

Why is pixels rising 200%?

[sage haven]

alt szn?

[covert crown]

can we do 200% pls 🙂

[narrow creek]

Soon ILV is gonna survive the bear

@quiet thorn have you bought in yet or still holding off. I remember last time we talked you were waiting on the mmo release

[quiet thorn]

Still waiting

[narrow creek]

What are you wanting to see before you go all in

[sage haven]

what is your expection?

[quiet thorn]

Waiting to see turn

[quiet thorn]

Low

[sage haven]

I got a strong feeling that the bottom will be $48k - $52k based on:

• Weekly RSI and Monthly RSI are at 2 previous bear bottom area
• $48k was Blackrock ETF top and Ukraine War top
• This range to $48K is a consolidation around previous cycle top. Something similar happened in two previous cycles.
• Ok. maybe the bear will last 7 more months, but im pretty confident we are very close to the bottom.

[narrow creek]

Jag should start a YouTube channel

[quick heron]

better a paid group

[hazy orchid]

with a token

[narrow creek]

Jag and Josh are the only ones that give breakdowns in here. Thankyou for the alpha kind sirs.

I like following Ben cowen on X as well. A lot of people in other chats don’t like it when I mention Ben cowen. They think he’s a dick for some reason

[hazy orchid]

I follow Cramer only

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-family-guy-stewie-stewie-griffin-shocked-gif-21485120

[sage haven]

people dnt like ben because he's often right

ben is also a nuclear engineer.
he's thesis are mainly pattern recognition.

The problem with most tradfi macro analysts is they dont believe in the 4 years cycle.
They cant grasp the idea that bitcoin price action is on a timer.

Evidently, btc followed the same pattern 3 times in a row. Evidently, btc decoupled from the money supply and the stock market.
This baffles every pseudo macro analyst when the answer is simple.
4 years cycle.

[sage haven]

ironically, finance is about pattern recognition.

that's why it need higher than average IQ, or these days, a good LLM

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-thumbs-up-you-did-it-proud-of-you-im-proud-of-you-gif-11620072825162795845

[narrow creek]

Wow, did not know this. Smart guy

Saw this LMAO

[inner quest]

I got a feeling wooahh ohh that ILVs gonna dump even harrrder
(For all you Black Eyed Peas fans)

[coral meteor]

Where lambo

[quiet thorn]

Lets goo! Buy some discs jetlemans

[inner quest]

I got a feeling woooooah. That ILV needs more of your shekelssss

[narrow creek]

@hazy orchid soon

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/mc-rib-mcrib-is-back-mc-donalds-rfsdan-rib-gif-19461388

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-gif-5519885072022975401

[coral lake]

https://tenor.com/view/cheeseburger-eddie-quarterpounder-nothinga-quarterpoundercantfix-gif-15915581

[sage haven]

So you are telling me that the CIO of Robinhood, a retail investing app, is bearish, but the base case of S&P 500 remains 7700?

i mean, I dont need $30k a year bloomberg terminal to figure that

is it possible that a pseudo macro analyst knows better than the Chief Investment Officer of Robinhood?

[jagged fulcrum]

Her (Robinhood Strategies) target base case for the S&P 500 is 7500.

You can be bearish on the short term and certainly on index's and want to reduce equity exposure to buy single names you think are good value or hedge equity risk in short term t bills for example.

If you think this is a great recession or depression Jag why are you buying bitcoin?

The years likey to be volatile (already is), last year from trough to peak post tariffs the gain was almost 40% and 18% for the year.

We can have a 10-20% equity decline and end the year at 7500-8000.

[sage haven]

Who is calling a great recession or depression? Do you have a habit of making things up?
You can easily search my expectation of 10-15% dip to 5700.
Do you still stand by your call of 7700 despite the closure of Hormuz and confirmation from the new appointed Supreme Leader that the strait will remain closed with sea mines laid?

For bitcoin,
You can easily search my reasoning for DCA into bitcoin, BTC is 5.5 months into its 12 months of bear market. Weekly and Monthly RSI is at bear market bottom area. Price is hovering around weekly 200ema and previous cycle top. Bitcoin does not care about macro fundamental analysis. Why is it hard for you to accept that?

Look at the date ser. She made the call in January

The bloomberg interview was yesterday 12th march

If you read the article careful, or use the search function, you will not find the word "Iran". Not even once.

Why dont we make a bet?
I will delete my discord and X account if S&P500 hit at least 7700 by 31st december 2026 23:59, but if it does not, you just have to call me The Oracle.

[jagged fulcrum]

I stand by my calls.

Bull case 8000
Base case 7700
Bear case 7100

Not interested in making a bet with you. Your x account and general presence is of little importance to me.

You've been banned from this discord a number of times only to create an alt.

I engage and share information when I feel like it. I'm not holding your hand and giving you a play by play or breakdown.

Go make some money.

[coral meteor]

Wow so mature and independent. Wait is this congress or a gaming discord?

[manic arrow]

Im here for the cooking tips

[coral meteor]

Same, still poor though 😅

[sage haven]

I have no desire to follow your call. I am questioning your call. In fact, I do the opposite of your call. I treat your assessment as how retail thinks.

[coral meteor]

Oh wait you meant actual cooking, yeah we are way more qualified at that

[sage haven]

Will you admit that you are wrong if S&P 500 does not hit at least 7700 by 31st December of 2026 23:59?

[narrow creek]

Sir you eat intestines and use ai for online dating how are you poor 🤔

[coral meteor]

HAHAHHAH I'm dying, if it were all lies it would be funny, but it's true which is hilarious to me

Let me share my day folks, this is right now and where I start my shift

[sage haven]

Why

[coral meteor]

Let's see your geoguesser abilities

[sage haven]

Mar del Plata, Pinamar, Villa Gesell, or somewhere in the Partido de la Costa

[coral meteor]

First one

Good job

[coral meteor]

Free will I guess

[sage haven]

Iifeguard?

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/elderly-lifeguard-beach-run-running-old-man-gif-10990337

[sage haven]

the old guard is so assuring

[coral meteor]

Yes

[narrow creek]

This reminds me of baywatch lol

The Hasslehoff. Not the new baywatch with the rock. L

[sage haven]

How accurate is the baywatch

[coral meteor]

Tbh it's more like 99% sitting and 1% running, also slow mo looks not sexy and more like you are having a stroke

[sage haven]

my job is 99.9% sitting, 0.1% toilet

[quick heron]

better than 99.9% shitting, 0.1% toilet

[sage haven]

sounds like taco bell quality control

[manic arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/yo-quiero-taco-bell-dog-chihuahua-advert-gif-5124199

[hazy orchid]

That’s an imposter

[sage haven]

imagine fading

hype is almost double its bear market low

[sage haven]

cant believe im giving free alpha

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-gif-3430554

[sage haven]

https://youtu.be/xcXfcXJvMXg?si=CkIH1w0Zs7yt6xDS

[sage haven]

TLDR he's saying 75% chance the us will send boots on the ground to search for the uranium

and the it will developed into a long war and losing midterm, unless he takes the deal

which will increase inflation and keeping interest rate high or even higher. Stagflation like in the 70s.

imagine what would happen to earnings growth that analysts are basing their 7700 S&P500 level

[coral meteor]

I was going to make some counter arguments but you can just go read the comments on the video

[tiny ridge]

I will keep on preaching about the lost decade everywhere

[narrow creek]

Doubt it. We just don’t have the ground forces like we used to. Iran is much bigger than Iraq. Unless we activate the draft or rely on our allies to help. Like Australia 👀

But the odds we activate the draft are lowww lol. We are fat. 70% of Americans are unfit for war.

[hazy orchid]

Are you young enough to be drafted ser?

[narrow creek]

lol good question let me check

[hazy orchid]

lol good thinking, I believe it’s 35

But also if you’re married or have kids your not priority so get to work fren

[narrow creek]

I don’t think that’s true lmao. I think it’s 18-25

[hazy orchid]

Ah maybe 25

Typo

Or just wanted to stress you

[narrow creek]

If not then yeah im screwed. I need to start eating Twinkies and drinking soda

[hazy orchid]

Eh think of it as a little desert vacation

[narrow creek]

For breakfast, lunch and dinner

[narrow creek]

I’m dragging you with me bud haha I’ll find you

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/ponke-ponkesol-solana-sol-rambo-gif-11565849111555442344

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/liam-neeson-i-will-find-you-taken-gif-5593626

[hazy orchid]

Imagine a bunch of crypto bros being sent to the front line

[narrow creek]

Okay I’m good phew. Also, I don’t want war at all just had to throw it out there 😂

[hazy orchid]

Ah I thought it went younger to older

[narrow creek]

Bro I think about this a lot…

[hazy orchid]

Luckily I think we have a lot of ppl that know how to use guns and are willing to

If that did occur

Which I don’t think it will either

[narrow creek]

Hmmm… We are soft tho (we live comfortable lives) The guys in Iran are not they are hardened by violence. We got the tech and air superiority to our advantage

Have you seen the guys in the trenches in Ukraine. Dodging drones. Bro…

In the winter too on top of that.

Hold on I know what card I’ll play check your DMs rich 💀💀💀💀

[true tree]

You have a lot of people who think that being in a war is the same as what they do when they play some fps on Saturday night.
There is also no desire to fight. Trump would need to hype up the reason and that is pretty hard to the most depressed generation of young men the US has had.

[narrow creek]

Cooked

[hazy orchid]

Yeah it wouldn’t go well in end. Which is why I think it would never happen

[narrow creek]

We are going to have a bunch of kids operating drones

Heard kids are much more adept at operating drones than grown men.

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[hazy orchid]

My daughter crashed mine into the fence

So not sure that’s true lol

[narrow creek]

Fair enough lol

Or maybe I heard kids are better at video games idk lol

My nephew is a beast at call of duty

I heard grown men curse him out on live. Smh. Told him to stop playing

[true tree]

Hope not. Otherwise a bunch of boys will have to grow up really fast. 😢

[sage haven]

Will u put money on it

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[narrow creek]

Oh well. Men need to wake up and turn back to God. America is becoming too woke. Maybe the feminist will cook and clean again

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-black-tropic-thunder-underwear-gun-gif-26904297

[grave plover]

I think people underestimate how crazy he is and how little he cares about other humans. He totally would send them in
I generally htheories about it. 1: Israel has the Epstein files and he has to go along with what they want or they will release it. (It's not widely known but Israel blackmailed Clinton with the Monica lewinski situation. The prime minister before Bibi was seen at Epsteins place many many times, so info could have been easily passed... 2

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/eww-gif-8985768279355337139

[sage haven]

Have u heard about prison wallet

this is why i stick with ledger, not trezor

[narrow creek]

I don’t gamble ser

[sage haven]

Oof dxy and oil is back at 100

i better practice horse riding

[narrow creek]

You know once upon a time everyone knew how to ride a horse. Now almost everyone doesn’t know how. If ww3 happens whoever survives will be going back to that

Einstein said ww4 will be fought with stick and stones

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-around-jake-gyllenhaal-jack-twist-brokeback-mountain-horseback-riding-gif-17132409

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-horse-gif-4840350062238504915

[sage haven]

He got 2 options:

1. admit defeat
2. double down

[grave plover]

Yup and I don't ever see him admitting defeat

[sage haven]

hes to narcissistic

[grave plover]

If things get super super bad I wouldn't be surprised if we somehow had a "false flag" attack somewhere in the US to try and gin up support

[narrow creek]

Lol yeah we need to stay away from the cities

[sage haven]

i mean he tomahawked a school

meanwhile, for the 7700 bois
https://x.com/wsj/status/2032455098442391599?s=46&t=-UbHGHoHpEdU8K3dt_g8mA

The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ)

The Commerce Department said GDP grew at just an 0.7% annual rate in the fourth quarter last year, well short of the 1.4% pace it reported in its “advance” GDP report last month https://t.co/qJcVnfETaK

X · Mar 13, 2026, 1:53 PM

It was expected to be 2.8% lol

[grave plover]

Jesus lol... It's almost like things aren't going too well lol 😆

[sage haven]

https://x.com/skynews/status/2032539666985931174?s=46&t=-UbHGHoHpEdU8K3dt_g8mA

Sky News (@SkyNews)

BREAKING: Around 5,000 more U.S. marines and sailors are deploying to the Middle East, reports Sky's U.S. partner network NBC News.

https://t.co/nYFAYyInWo

📺 Sky 501 and YouTube

X · Mar 13, 2026, 7:29 PM

[narrow creek]

First New York post now sky news lol

[sage haven]

Do u only watch fox news

[sage haven]

add the private credit crisis

[narrow creek]

Don’t watch the news.

Unless it’s weather. They don’t lie about tornadoes lol

Crap. Jag might be right

I follow a few guys on X like this guy. He keeps it real

[sage haven]

israel missiled his dad and family. do u think the son will accept a deal?

[narrow creek]

Crappppp

Well rich get ready

[grave plover]

Oh fuck yeah I've been talking about that forever. When klarna use for groceries is at an all time high the economy is not doing well

[sage haven]

paylater taco bell

[narrow creek]

Yeah the amount of debt Americans are in is pretty scary

[true tree]

So much I want to say, so much I am not allowed to say.🤣
Token should really be a say anything page.

[grave plover]

Hey it all effects the token price right!? Lol 😂

[sage haven]

investors are raising cash. But private banking are limiting redemption.

panic soon. buckle up

[narrow creek]

Buy the dip again

[sage haven]

yea this is the hardest part. waiting

you have to understand that fund managers are incentivised to lie to their investors so they wont cash out

[true tree]

I would say that America turning into a godless society while men and women destroy the nuclear family due to neither of them being able to treat each other with love and respect are the biggest factors for the financial disaster we see, so yes it does...but I am still not allowed to talk about it.😂

[sage haven]

wait how are they related. china has always been godless

[narrow creek]

Oh gosh

Yeah and there one child policy is about to crumble their country. No freedom there.

[true tree]

Does China hold the world reserve currency?

[narrow creek]

They have a lot more older people than younger. They know this that’s why they want Taiwan now. They’ll prolly invade soon. With out military in the Middle East

If things go bad in Iran. They’ll prolly go for it

And it looks like things are going to go bad for us in Iran. Just imagine what would happen if we lose a aircraft carrier

[grave plover]

I wouldn't necessarily attribute that too being a godless society. Japan and the northern European countries are pretty secular and their economy isn't that bad

[sage haven]

yea economy has nothing to do with religion. especially budget deficit lol

[narrow creek]

lol I’ll just let this be anyways…

[true tree]

@grave plover Japan has a debt level in excess of 200% of their GDP. Half their industries are zombie corporations . They sell more adult diapers than baby diapers.

[true tree]

Of course the morals and values of both the government as well as the people of a country will influence economic policies.

[sage haven]

the problem with the us is they outsourced manufacturing to china

[narrow creek]

Yeah pretty wild. Japan and South Korea are paying people to go on dates cuz there death rate is outpacing there birth rates. But it won’t help when everyone is on birth control

[true tree]

The problem with the US is bad government policies.

[sage haven]

the budget deficit started with the vietnam war in 70s

And the ending of the bretton wood

Thats when they started printing money to pay debt

[true tree]

I will respond in a few hours. Sorry, got to run
🙂

[narrow creek]

Go back even further

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-tired-boss-tired-boss-tired-pepe-im-tired-tired-gif-16492974445831213213

[narrow creek]

Like around WW1

Iykyk

[grave plover]

if we all refuse too go they wont have enough jails to hold us all! right!? right!?

[hazy orchid]

I’m too old to go lol

[grave plover]

i think i am too lol but you never know 🤣

[narrow creek]

You know what to do

Im cooked they definitely going ship me out

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-cry-goodbye-luffy-luffy-sad-luffy-meme-cry-luffy-goodbye-gif-9642780499476509558

I’m not overweight and can still run craaap

[grave plover]

just do what the navy sailers did on that one ship and flood all the toilets so they had to turn around and get it fixed before going out lol

[narrow creek]

Wait what 💀

[grave plover]

ok thats speculation on my part but very weird that all of a sudden all the touilets are overflowing when they are about too be deployed

[narrow creek]

No I mean I have no idea what you are talking about 😂 what ship had to turn around?

[grave plover]

The Gerald Ford... now i think they are fixed and its still moiving in that direction

[narrow creek]

Ill look it up

[grave plover]

i think it was actually closer to the venezuala conflict than iran

[sage haven]

Ask your LLM:
What do 1973, 1982, 1987, 1990, 2001, and 2008 have in common in regards to oil price and the following market condition? Compare it to the condition today.

[narrow creek]

Recession incoming

[sage haven]

But the base case remains 7700

here comes the kicker:
The bear case is 7.5% higher than this week's close.

wait the minister of war was a tv anchor?

[true tree]

There was a budget deficit in WWI and II. The difference was they reduced the overall debt level and deficits after those wars. They didn't do that after the 70s but really those also had to do with the socialist policies of Johnson.

[sage haven]

North Korea enters the chat.
https://x.com/jpn_pmo/status/2032680576864628843?s=46&t=-UbHGHoHpEdU8K3dt_g8mA

PM's Office of Japan (@JPN_PMO)

[Emergency alert]
North Korea has launched a suspected ballistic missile. More updates to follow.

X · Mar 14, 2026, 4:49 AM

[narrow creek]

https://x.com/dexerto/status/2032864183918690675?s=46

Dexerto (@Dexerto)

Florida man sold his house in just 5 days after letting ChatGPT handle the entire process instead of a real estate agent

The AI handled pricing, marketing, showings, and even helped draft the contract

X · Mar 14, 2026, 4:59 PM

Realtors days are numbered

[inner quest]

Dude just looks like his name is Ari or some shit

[sage haven]

Us destroyed kharg.
Iran destroyed fujairah.
but the base case remains 7700

https://tenor.com/view/on-the-way-mad-max-fury-road-omw-on-my-way-driving-gif-17172560391433412095

[sage haven]

Meanwhile, 5000 marines defending the strait from the persian army

https://tenor.com/view/300-sparta-warriors-soldiers-gif-10421394

[narrow creek]

Well well well

[sage haven]

Lol

[silent moth]

I do not actually know anything about water heaters. But $2000 seems pretty pricey. I’ll ask google now to see if I’m right.

Well I guess it depends on size and watts or whatever. Not necessarily crazy.

[narrow creek]

You earn bitcoin tho

[sage haven]

Most of the $2000 is for the cost of the antminer.
its just a water tank recovering the heat from running an asic

you still need external heat management since u dnt shower 24/7

[hazy orchid]

Eh I do

And it depends on the size of house and how much water you using

But I’ll tell you what tankless water heaters are pretty much useless

[narrow creek]

Man here I was thinking they were the best

Supposed to be endless heat

[hazy orchid]

Yeah that’s gas company propaganda

They want you to use more gas obviously

[sage haven]

I takes 2 hours for a 1200W electric water heater to heat up 50 L of water to 65C.
now imagine how much power u need to rapidly heat up water in a tankless setup

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/doggo-dog-annoyed-pissed-no-gif-27062669

See… don’t trust anything

[sage haven]

Tankless means the water is sitting in water tubes, it has to reach 65C from ambient temp in the supply line to your shower head within seconds. Now imagine in winter

with tank, the EWH will keep it hot, ready for use

[narrow creek]

Yeah makes sense

[hazy orchid]

@sage haven is a plumber too

Who knew

Makes sense

Maybe we are the same

https://tenor.com/view/same-gif-8650053

[sage haven]

AI took my job

[quiet thorn]

How wave sell doing?

[coral meteor]

I just saw a reel about a new roadmap for illuvium but no announcement?

Nvm it's old, but the reel saying "new roadmap" was uploaded 1h ago in illuviums intagram

[iron pier]

I miss Andrew Wall

[hazy orchid]

i miss figgy burgers

[iron pier]

A delicious juicy Lucy I made yesterday

[hazy orchid]

yum

[tiny ridge]

Things are looking up and will only get better from this point forward.

[sage haven]

I guess one more flush

[narrow creek]

Are those smashed burgers?

[quick heron]

guys --> #🌮〕food

The only thing I wanna read here, are Jags thoughtful insights about the state of the world economy and the Illuvium tokenprice

[manic arrow]

What does that last one mean

[narrow creek]

Token price like $4 last time I checked. Nothing worth talking about yet

Crap jag and rich doesn’t want to unplug

They will fight for their LLM

[hazy orchid]

lol eh it’s whatever. Probably better if it all got erased in reality for certain things. I’m optimistic for medicine being pushed forward

As long as we get rid of the crooks

You see the guy that cured his dog with chat gpt

[narrow creek]

They will take away your freedom tho. The system will control everything

https://tenor.com/view/sxcd-faces-serious-gif-13728604

https://tenor.com/view/what-gosling-hand-blade-runner-gif-27467640

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/war-loading-dlc-world-war-ww3-gif-17719426321738479318

[narrow creek]

Some of the stuff in that post I shared was just engagement farming… don’t know what to believe yet lol

[sage haven]

Trump was threatening to tax everyone, but now hes asking everyone for help for the mess israel created.

[narrow creek]

He sold his soul like most politicians

All for Israel ❤️‍🔥 lol

[sage haven]

how ironic that trump is a german

meanwhile private banking

[narrow creek]

lol that doesn’t mean anything… but I better stop now

Oh wait I see what you are saying 😂

Blackrock just bought out our largest electric utility in Indy. They are trying to own EVERYTHING.

[sage haven]

plot twist, the us is asking ukraine for their drone interceptors because russia has been using it in ukraine they supplied iran.
If this is not WW3, what is

[sage haven]

Investors are rotating to defensive stocks

[sage haven]

Market closed : War On
Market opened : War Off

hours before market open he announced an announcment of a coalition.
this is exactly how NFT projects were trying to save floor price.

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-spit-drink-gif-15962434655473821932

[sage haven]

goodbye gold. ill see you in 4 years at $3000

gold is in 14 years cycle.
10 years up, 4 years down.

[quasi wyvern]

I watched the Matrix with my Son a couple of months ago, damn that film was ahead of it's time, especially when they spoke about AI...

[sage haven]

btc looks so good on 1D dan 1W

[narrow creek]

74k wasn’t expecting that during war lol

[north tartan]

The people that want to sell is gone by now 😅

[narrow creek]

Bruh it’s wild how ahead it was. It’s like the director could see the future

https://tenor.com/view/the-matrix-morpheus-red-pill-blue-pill-truth-gif-15865648232657580077

[north tartan]

@sage haven eth etf staking. What do you think of this?

[sage haven]

idc about it. i just look at what the chart is telling me.
good news and price is reacting well

[sage haven]

This is why news and "fundamental" are just noise.
You can have the best news and price dont pump, and you can have the worst news but price dont dump.

the market does what it wants. narrative follows price

[sage haven]

not a bad place to take profit here

[sage haven]

bear market bulls are getting cocky, it would be a shame if they got flushed

Saylor was TWAPing hard

im wondering when this $95 oil price gonna hit the pump

[coral meteor]

Wasn't 84~95 the target?

Why cocky at 74

Oh you mean the people shorting?

[sage haven]

CT is calling for the end of the bear market lol

there is a huge gap between physical oil and paper oil price
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2033556644169404508?s=20

The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter)

Fuel prices are skyrocketing across the world:

Fuel oil prices in Singapore, the world's most important refueling port, are up to a record $140 per barrel.

This marks a +146% surge since the start of the year.

Prices have now surpassed the 2008 Financial Crisis and the 2022

X · Mar 16, 2026, 2:51 PM

i mean i can use a 3-days off
https://x.com/BBCWorld/status/2033743673775542360?s=20

BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld)

Sri Lanka declares Wednesdays off as Asian countries try to conserve fuel https://t.co/mIrNTajEDq

X · Mar 17, 2026, 3:14 AM

[coral meteor]

Nah nah you said the bear will reach ~48.

[sage haven]

that is my target

thats when i unload 30% of cash

ive started deploying the 70% in the 60s, because im fully aware that i could be wrong.

[coral meteor]

Just read the charts they never lie

[verbal cove]

Yea its super easy to predict the outcome of things and become wealhy, even AI can read charts

[sage haven]

Not many people know that hedge fund traders win rate is 50-60%. 54% WR is considered really good.

Unmotivated people would think that 4% edge over 50/50 chance is small and they just go on with their lives, paycheck to paycheck into retirement. Only then they realized that they never took chance. And spent the rest of their idilic life full of regrets.
"If only I took that 4% edge....."

The insurance industry is based solely in predicting future outcame based on historical data over a large sample.
Not many people know that stock price valuation is calculated based on future cash flow extrapolated from historical data multiplied by projected growth rate.
No, they just think that people should not predict the future.

Some people probably never read World Bank's Global Economic Prospects.
God forbid the world economists predicting the future of average people.

Imagine, an annual publication read by finance ministers full of charts!

[quick heron]

I am afraid Jag is actually becoming a good trader

and then he will leave us behind, forever bagholding. What then?

[narrow creek]

Jag don’t ever leave us

[true tree]

Jag won't leave us. If he does we just wait for a wise hobbit to come to Discord.

[hazy orchid]

Or Sarah

[true tree]

I think Fraggy did the "pretend you are female" thing better. 😂

[narrow creek]

Sarah must be before my time in this chat 🤔

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-gyllenhaal-bye-bye-gif-7990496184851258495

[sage haven]

hmmm holding 74k is bullish, losing it is an SFP

[sage haven]

maybe we hold here to fomc.
lets switch to polymarket to bet on jpow to mention "oil" "hormuz" "iran"

trump just got himself trapped. the status quo worked for decades and now he's forcing a binary outcome:
either the us or iran fully control hormuz.
atm oil future price is being defended while floating stockpile is being used. the longer this war goes, the higher oil price will go, simple math.
The market is still pricing that the war will end "soon"