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So lets say you have 5-10 ILV it migh only be worth it to claim monthly
Hmmm i was not thinking that frequent. I was just thinking of the key dates like the December release.
Ya good idea
So maybe stake until end of nov.
Some people did before or after ya
Thatās why the apy is so high. No one bullish is LPing?
Impermanent losers rip
Why LP when bullish?
LP team here
Because in 2 months time, you can farm back all of the ILV you put into the pool, so even if you were to lose all of it, you're regaining it passively.
but single pool catching up because of the claimed rewards
much faster then that
Thatās a very good point. The apy beats the IL
yes im being conservative w estimates
i re-couped all IL losses in 1 week
Catching up meaning? The compounding effect of staking solo ILV?
meaning my ILV income per hour in single pool is getting closer to fee in double pool
Ah because the claim rewards from double is staked and vested too
due to claimed rewards that give out 2,0 multiplier
still lost 1200 ilv out of 2000
in double pool
it was converted to ETH at different price points, going from 80$ to 240$
#'s for convenience's sake, i staked less then that
Ending up with more ETH is a good problem to have. ILV performance is insane obviously so that's why I'm holding ILV separately in the core pool as well. but idk maybe im too diversified and should have just full aped into ILV
I still don't see how the 600%+ LP APY won't outperform the single ILV Pool (which is close to two digits in APY now) easily within 2-3-4 months even if you would lose every single of your initial ILV stake but I might be overlooking something.
And I say this as someone who is 100% in Single Pool atm
12 months locked
Iāll take gains in eth. Plus the thing youāre also missing being in pool 1 is the sweet apy you get on your eth.. where else can I get that?
Just extra capital of mine getting a higher yield
its psychological thing, i rather gain ILV without loosing it vs gain more ILV but loose some as well
That was my thoughts as well, I'm already hodling ETH so might as well put it to work
plus double pools are nightmare to report to IRS
bottom line is dont stake in double pool, let me take the risk for you and provide liquidity and suffer instead of you
I will suffer alongside you

I'm a tax noob so I hope I don't get rekt. I don't mind paying what I owe but I don't want to mess up and have the IRS give me the banhammer irl
Yeah, that I understand. But with 600% and 100% isn't it almost guaranteed that in just a short amount of time you'll have more ILV AND all that ETH on top?
LP is better - already made 100% of ILV back staking from the beginning - that 100% is now farming at 2x weight in single staking
lp with the lock was easily the best decision if you are in it for the long run
Yeah, I figured. Went the safe way, kinda regretting it in hindsight but heck - you always know better afterwards
single stakers will get continuously diluted down and LP stakers with lock will get bigger and bigger share of the single staking pool
still good - ILV price appreciation makes up for it
Iām there with you š
I would have taken more risk under other circumstances. I had a decent stack when staking began and said to myself that reaching numbers like $1.000+ probably would be enough for me to be free of financial worries for a long time or even forever (depending on RevDis and what I would do with the value of it). So I did't have the balls to bet on higher risk IL since I had 0 experience with it.
because when you stake, you stake for a specific amount of time
Yeahhhh, and I was definitely āworriedā Iād miss out on too much if I wasnāt locked in prior to rewards accumulating. Really⦠just too damn excited at the time. I could have left it unlocked for just a few days and I think the realization about LP wouldāve hit me after hanging around chat
Check your Vesting tab š
ah! thanks
Yeah, should have kept it unlocked for a while as well. But hey, you gotta start learning at some point. Betting hard on ILV and going ILV 12 months locked might not have been the most optimal decision but it certainly was a damn good one still š
Can we go back to fudding impermanent loss please? š
Oh right! Impermanent Losersā Iāve still got all of my initial stake
"impermanent LOSERS"
IL is too dangerous. Stay with the single sided pools
hello guys, to know how can i get sILV (i saw i can get it via reward stake) ?
Yes sILV can be gained during staking in either pool
!yf
You can yield farm ILV in 2 main pools.
ILV/ETH at a 1:1 ratio USD values matched or ILV Only. 3 Million tokens will be distributed through yield farming over a 3 year period, with the first year being 1.8million tokens. Only unlocked tokens can yield farm which is less than 1 million tokens. Meaning, you get the maximum rewards possible. You can lock up your tokens for a maximum of 1 year which can increase your weight in the pool up to 2x. More details will be published before Yield Farming goes live near the end of May. Until then, here is more information: https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be If you don't know what Yield Farming is you can start researching here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClnnLI1SClA
ok thanks for the precision just wanted to be sure about that
Yup. I reccomend claiming sILV closer to game launch or once we know more about the mystery and land sale
i just put some ILV on stake for 16 weeks (to unlock it before december) so its ok i think, did i need a minimum to claim? š¤
No minimum just claim when you get >gas
I claim when I have 5-10 ILV built up
and when gas is 10 GWEI or lower
okok anyway i'll wait before december x)
You only compound when u claim
š¤
and sILV doesnt compound
so lets say I claim 5 ILV, it compounds in the single asset pool at 2X
for 12 months
so its better to let them stay on stake and i just claim sILV so ?
its on this page where i get sILV ? š¤
That's where you can decided between either ILV or sILV yeah
ok so i had to go on this page to claim my sILV when the time come that's it?
(when i talking about the time its before the game launch)
If you plan on claiming sILV only then you can wait until that point in time where you can actually start using it for something and claim then, yes.
because actually i can use sILV for something else? š¤
Maybe sILV can be used for some pre-sales but not sure yet. If not, it can only be used at launch, yes.
hello everyone. is there a link that explains the sushi liquidity pool?
so far. ive been able to use the sushi exchange, and currently own ilv.
To provide LP:
- You take your ILV/ETH here: https://app.sushi.com/add/ETH/0x767FE9EDC9E0dF98E07454847909b5E959D7ca0E
- You provide a 50/50 ratio of both (in $)
- You get SLP tokens back
- You take those SLP tokens here: https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core
- You stake your SLP tokens in the Sushi LP pool with whatever locking period you want
- You claim your rewards as ILV or sILV (whatever you prefer) whenever enough rewards have piled up for you to justify gas fees
If you never provided LP before though, make sure to understand IL: https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained
and the rate of reward depends on the size of the pool, correct?
Yes, the APY determines rewards but obviously the size of your stack as well š
sure. im curious about the apy.
the current apy of 651% is determined from the current size of the liquidity pools?
if that is correct, how does agreeing to longer lockup periods yield greater results?
i see
is there a place to see the statistcs on current lockup periods. something that would say here we have this percentage of people locking in at this period, and this other percentage of people locking in at this period, and so on.
It might be somehow possible to gather this from the blockchain, but there is no easy overview to my knowledge, no.
this might be possible using dune analytics, but i'm not capable š
would love stats on this as well
that third variable is confusing. receiving an slp token. and then the slp token yields a ILV or sILV token
I already put in ILV/ETH to sushi what do I do next? How do I get the rewards from Sushi?
look above @merry ridge
When you stake your SLP tokens you'll start generating ILV rewards. You can claim as either ILV or sILV
you stake that LP token in the illivium dashboard'
So I have wait for it to generate slp?
what is an sILV token?
before I can start staking it?
No you instantly get SLP token
You stake it
after you added your liquidity on sushi you should have gotten an LP token, if you go to the illivium dashboard u will be able to stake that token
If you put ILV/ETH into LP on Sushi already you should have SLP Tokens now. Stake those on the ILV site
Where do I find that?
its going to be used as the in game currency for the game
should I hold only my ILV token and use if the game released. without staking
ILV is not used in game
only sILV for in game
sorry I am new at sushi LP
!ILV
Governance:
Together, we have the power to shape the future of Illuvium through our community collaboration on game improvement proposals as well as electing the initial model of governance, the Illuvinati Council.
Liquidity Mining:
Here, you will gain more ILV. This will increase your voting power in governance & increase your share of vault distributions.
Vault Distributions:
When you stake ILV, you share in Illuvium's success and earn a passive income of additional ILV, funded through in-game purchases and fees. Vault distributions will only be available once the game and Illuvidex are launched.
For further details read: https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
should I add a wallet address to Metamask?
Yes
how can apy's be defined at different lockup periods if they're dependent on market prices of each asset AND the size of the liquidity pools?
how about ETH only we can use it also in game.
0x6a091a3406e0073c3cd6340122143009adac0eda <---- how do I add this wallet address? is it under custom?
APY are changing every block
my strategy right now is to stake my LP tokens and claim ILV as those claimed ILV will generate more. Once the game comes out then ill start claiming some sILV to have an advantage in game
They are USD based
But the amount of token you get is basically always lower over time
yeah because of dilution
okay that makes sense
Should it look like this?
With game rev (when it starts), what currency will it be paid in, eth?
Yes
Alright I already added the address it looks like this.
Is this correct?
Well looks like you didnt add liquidity to the pool
I add it first before I added this address
you added liquidity on that pair?
Or only approved your currencies?
Yes I added it there
Go to Illuvium staking and check if you can stake
You probably didnt add liquidity
Otherwise you would have SLP tokens
It doesnt show up
you're a saint rahlord haha
Maybe only approved contract but didn't actually provide liquidity?
it shows up like this
thats just a swap
You didnt add liquidity
click on that
And add liquidity
To add liquidity you go over to the right tab on sushiswap "liquidity" and then you need to put in your ILV with an equal amount of ETH (in usd terms) to recieve your SLP token amount
Thank you for guiding me.
what kind of time periods are you fellas currently staking at?
Then you send your SLP to the LP pool on the illuvium website
fellas/ladies
interesting.
Wow so much fees
Yes gas is not low
why not several say 6 week blocks. to have some room to manuever with volatility?
Cause then you don't get maximum returns
I don't plan on ever selling my capital
Why caring about price?
You have to see beyond that
hmm. thats a lot of confidence.
Amount of token > realized gains
I dont mind the fees right now
Cause RevDis will be the most important source of income
because its small amount compare to the reward
without even seeing the game.
I invested all in as soon as I saw the team
no the apy's are really attractive dont get me wrong.
i have a large investment.
just hesistant to lock it up.
im playing devils advocate. i love the devs. the partnerships. investors. its impressive.
On revenue distribution
It's going to be insane. You want the maximum amount of tokens possible.
Sure you are safe!
Not everyone has the same risk tolerance
If I lose everything it's not killing me
why doesnt it stop with this game? the token is going to extend to other games?
You can always split your investment up, lock half and do flexible with half if you're concerned about liquidity. NFA, but doesn't have to be all one way or the other
Finally I was able to stake it. I should have done this a long time ago
All others games/movies/merch/related projects are all tied to the ILV token
So you get revenue distribution from all of it from the ILV token
Congratz!!
You are in now
Cofounder confirmed that any additional games/regions will be tied to the ILV token and to the first 150 monsters
52 weeks in it for life
Thanks for the guidance.
is there a select group that will have access to first gameplay?
You mean beta?
Yes
how is that determined?
Selection
yeah theres going to be a google sheet sign up to beta test
google sheet signup haha
yeah it doesnt sound very democratic
Why?
just pick whomever off the list.
They want professional feedback, not ramdom people just in it to play it
It is a testing phase
will these testers get to keep what they catch?
@exotic igloo where do I see the gain from SLP? would it be the same as ILV?
rewards tab
Oh its the same ILV
shows how much ILV youre earning in real time
Ok got it
Oh ok
I will add more in the future then. It looks faster than staking it
@exotic igloo If I claimed the rewards will it be automatically to its respective staking?
When you claim, it will lock the ILV rewards in the ILV pool for 12 months yes
No haha you don't get more SLP
I should have invested first in SLP before staking it. Oh well lesson learned
okay guys. I'm going to contribute to the liquidity pool. the slp tokens are generated from this contribution?
Yes
it literally doesnt say anything about slp
where you provide liquidity on sushi
You just provide liquidity and you get SLPs
It represent your share of the pool
yeah im on that page. im just being very careful.
on that page, it doesnt say anythign about slp, just providing liquidity
and why cant i just buy slp and then stake it that way.
smooth love potion
No. 
thats the only token i see on coin gecko
this is pretty strange to me.
provide liquidity to get a token to stake it somewhere else. seems redundant
is this a common process?
It is what defi is about
All pools works like that
You get a token that represent your share of a liquidity pool
Then you can normally stake that token somewhere to get yield
okay. now i understand .
you were operating under the assumption that i understood that part of defi
Ok
this is my first time providing liquidity so im cautious
No worries
SushiSwap ILV/ETH LP (SLP) Token Tracker on Etherscan shows the price of the Token $1,614.4807, total supply 57,796.256473067753464458, number of holders 113 and updated information of the token. The token tracker page also shows the analytics and historical data.
This is the SLP token for our pair
With the filter for the staking pool
when i make the deposit, it will automatically ask me to add that token to my wallet, or should i create it beforehand?
thanks
if i hadnt added it manually beforehand what happens? the transaction is denied?
i found it btw
No the transaction will happen
You just wont see it in your metamask wallet if you dont add it
fascinating.
kinda tricky
i bet there has been a lot of confusion just in that part alone.
now what happens inside of of the pool itself? does it gain interest on its own through swaps? or is the reward soley dependent on what you do with your slp token?
Confused me for a few moments when I started haha
yeah i bet a lot of people had their heart sink.
transaction went thru but nothing shows up
Where
You get transactions fees added to the SLP price overtime
Other than that you get nothing if you dont stake it
I'm making a tutorial today
okay
Just waiting on low gas
low gas...to make a tutorial?
ah. should i delay as well?
how long does this process take?
i approved the transaction, it went thru, but the assests are still there, and no slp
As a complete beginner I managed to fumble my way through it with help from people and pinned messages in around half an hour
I also made a few mistakes, Iād suggest using a MetaMask wallet from the start as I did not
yeah im good up until there.
You approved the currencies
Now you need to add the liquidity
You basically allowed sushiswap to transact your currencies
okay i need to follow that up with a second action.
Yes
It will be the same on the staking website. You will approve the SLP then you will be able to stake it
okay i closed out the window to restart metamask to make sure it wasnt an issue there when i didnt see the exchange in the wallet
so ill have to do it again.
ok success.
Good
now for this second part.
you have chosen your rewards in ILV in one year from the original deposit.
ah okay.
But if you had tokens already staked, pick ILV
cause it will force you to claim before staking
Also make sure the gas limit is above 295 000 when staking your SLPs
Or it will fail
295,000 gwei?
gas limit
Do you want to screenshare and I'll talk you through it
If that makes you feel safer
thats on the iluvium dashboard or inside the meta mask wallet?
Man something strange is happening with my user š® after i answer in any channel i'm only able to see the channel again after it have a new message
What will be the staking rewards for both the pools be in? sILV or ILV?
i dont see limits.
You can choose to claim rewards as either ILV or sILV
Because you collapsed the categorie
When will i get the choice?
Depends which pool and how long you choose to lock your stake in for
no no mate i didn't. For example i was talking with you on the voice text right? i can't see the channel as of right now.
Invested for 52 weeks in both pools
I can already claim rewards on my SLP in theory, but I have my ILV stake locked in for 12 months
but if you answer now there, i'm able to see the text channel again lol
i believe im past this point. i have my slp tokens.
is this for the second action in the dashboard
no.
Do you want to go on call
sure one. moment. i have to find my mic.
Oh you are right š thks
You can choose to claim rewards whenever you like, whenever the amount of rewards claimed makes sense for the gas fee
If I withdraw from vesting before claiming my rewards in ilv or sILV will I lose those rewards
ooo sweet
how do i unstake my ILV/ETH on sushi?
I doubt it but idk for sure
No. You claim the rewards as part of the withdrawing process
Donāt claim them before hand.
You go back to sushi with your SLP tokens and withdraw liquidity. It should be pretty visible there.
This is quite important. I paid the gas fee twice while restaking.
Don't claim, just withdraw and it should auto claim your rewards.
I really want to buy more but the prices are going up.
Is it still safe to stake. The prices are unbelievable high
Look at marketcap and not price
Itās not even 10x from alltime low. Thatās nothing.
Right, it is Sunday, supposed to go down.
Yeah hopefully later
Don't worry too much about gas if you are staking big amount. It is reasonable right now.
This has to find support or consolidate one way or another its only a matter of when.
it is know if stackers will get access to the closed beta?
check out #795444126421483520
oh wow i have a green name!
cool new title
Green is nice, congrats š
@silent spire thanks!
that what an ILV ETH pool liquidity provider would say.. hahaa
hello rahlord.. i think this was asked before but im still confused about it.. after the staking/vestinh ends, we will still be able to convert the SLP tokens to ETH/ILV right? or should it be converted directly to only 1 of either with the same fiat value?
I believe the liquidity pool will pay you out in both tokens, based on the ratio that they are in the pool at the time that you withdraw them
Anyone know how much we will earn from revdivs when they happen?
You remove liquidity and get some of both tokens
thanks.. š
The only thing that will matter is revenue distributions. If Axie is at 1m players by then (looking likely), then we should be at least half that in the first six months. We have six core revenue streams, all active on launch.
Shards (curing)
IlluviDEX fees (5% of all trading)
Imbues
Skins
Travel
Wagering fees (10% of all wagers)
If you want to enter the P2E regions, you will need to pay a small travel fee. To capture an illuvial, you will need to cure a shard; to profit off that Illuvial, you will need to sell it on illuviDEX. So let's break down those fees for a second (none of these amounts are confirmed, and this is NFA.)
Travel Fee = $10
Avg. Curing Fee = $20
Sell Price of Illuvial $100 - IMX receives $1, Seller receives $94 = $5
Vault earns: $35
Player earns: $64
IMX earns: $1
This is one of the loops that considers them "Active". If we have 500,000 players completing a loop X times per day:
Once = $17,500,000 x 30 = $525,000,000
Five = $87,500,000 x 30 = $2,625,000,000
Firstly, think about the buyback pressure that those numbers would put on the $ILV governance token. Keep in mind that doesn't factor in cosmetics, which is the most significant revenue driver in Fortnite, or wagering, which in Crypto, no one should be sleeping on. Secondly, think about the passive income you are receiving that is unlocked.
post by Aaron pinned š on #š¬ćgeneral
So I tried staking some tokens about 2 hrs ago at a gas fee of like 5$ when it said average was 15$ish, still hasnāt gone through wondering if anyone knows when it may go through
Do you know what GWEI ?
Miners sort what transactions to include in blocks by gas price. If it's low it might take a long time for the transaction to complete.
No š¢
Ahhh I see
Long time as in hours or like days?
It can possibly take days if your gas is too low
Hm ok thanks for the heads up !
Check it on etherscan.
Ok
i am new to this channel. seems interesting. can i have a link for video that explains clearly about illuvium at how investing/staking works?
Have you searched YouTube? Thereās not an official one
But rahlord may put one out soon
i cant understand so much about it new to blockchainsm
Yeah itās such a new thing for most folks. Takes some learning for sure.
thank you folks.
Thereās a faq and a medium post on #šćhelpful-links
are only the rewards locked or the total amount of tokens you stake?
if TVL in the IVL stake pool doubles... will the APY halve?
You decide if you want to lock or not your stake and for how much time. But the rewards are locked 12 months.
Wait no
No. What matters is how many ILV are in it.
If ILV price goes up the TVL goes up. But since the rewards are paid in ilv as well then apy stays the same. Unless more ILV is put in
Sorry if this question has been asked before and for my lack of online knowledge. I canāt seem to connect my MetaMask wallet to iluvium despite doing so previously for staking on my iPhone. Any ideas how to reconnect? I have tried deleting and reinstalling the app already.
Do you use the in app browser for MetaMask?
I can try that now but havnt previously
It will work I think.
if IVL in the IVL stake pool doubles will the APY halve? i think this APY going to drop down hard soon if this is the case
It worked! š¤¦āāļø thanks heaps
In replied with your answer somewhere else.
Oh sorry I miss read what you said. Yeah apy is going down.
It used to be like 600
In ilv only
It is what it is.
I made some calculations of what the ILV only pool APY will be till the end of distributions. And itās looking on track.
Again sorry for my earlier reply. I thought you were repeating the same question. But no you werenāt.
Thatās why staking early is so much better than waiting.
can you share what that 'track' is like... what is the projected APY by Dec?
And even the amount being distributed is going down.
Send me a dm.
done
what fortnight are we?
2nd bar
middle of it I think
I'm gonna lose track for sure
I need a countdown somewhere
Already up $40 from putting $10 in
bought on a CEX, I guess
with a plan to just hodl until the Eth 2.0 merger or until ILV moons enough to afford the gas.
then get this post out of #š„©ćstaking š
Why? If ILV jumps to 0.5 eth, then withdrawing and staking it will become affordable.
just joking around... honestly I think I've seen a few tiny staking positions
Wow, those stakers are dedicated fans!
hello can i also ask for the 'track'? got quite curious about it.. if its ok with you . š
haha sure... dm me @tacit mesa
Where can I find the ETH/ILV value of 1 SLP token?
SushiSwap ILV/ETH LP (SLP) Token Tracker on Etherscan shows the price of the Token $1,691.5332, total supply 58,160.029056195911121659, number of holders 117 and updated information of the token. The token tracker page also shows the analytics and historical data.
If I lock my slp for 12 months is there any other risks apart from getting token back at lower price?
yes... Impermanent loss
you enter your liquidity position a equal weight. By the time you exit your liquidity position one of the 2 tokens outperformed the other. When you exit you will recieve back different amounts of each coin than what you put in. But they will have an equal value.
you should check it out
Ok thanks š
Ok that does sound crap š©, better off just staking my ilv in core pool right, no risk?
But u just know ilv will be so volatile in the next year in a good way, and will outperform eth
Canāt see eth going to 30k this year
Makes sense. I have locked 10 ILV in the pool for 12 months. probably I should have just stacked
Better to lock, flexible lock or keep?
Depends on your plan really.
I am planning to mobilize all my earnings from axie to park in ILV haha.
Youāll find out in 12 months i suppose, might pay off really well š
It's not really a matter of might. you get rewards by locking longer, so whatever your avg, it'll be lowered. unless you were planning to exit at a certain point. Depends on your plans really
So if I plan to stake for 12 months and take it out, think itās worth doing in slp?
the fee of claim sILV is high?
How high?
well you will always have unclaimed ILV (as rewards) that need to be claimed. It's not a matter of worth or not, It's what you think would work out for u best. I myself am in single pool and will be there literally forever.
the fee is exactly the same as claiming ILV cuz it depends on gas
Which pool? š
ILV pool. not SLP
every pool can claim sILV. you choose your rewards everytime you wanna claim, ILV or sILV
After 3 years there wonāt be anything left to claim?
how often do people here claim there rewards?
How often do u claim ur rewards?
the 3rd year YF will end, the rewards will be fully released a year after. it also depends if you plan on locking your RevDis as well. but in terms of YF, year 4 is the full release
depends on your stake and the gas really. with the high gas and lower APY now, I do every 10 ILV
there are high risk of some rug pull in sushi right?
How much did the last lot cost u to claim?
I don't know about that. The high risk of getting into SLP is merely the IL.
about $5 I guess. don't really remember
So u claimed 2k worth of ilv and itās cost u $5?
I don't remember how much it was worth. it was over a week ago. whan gas is lower than 10 Gwei, it's pretty cheap. at 15, it's OK, more than that, I'd wait to claim more ILV
if the token not have any use yet, why you claim?
claiming will compound to your stake and generates more rewards. besides, if you wanna withdraw them a year later, you have to claim it. otherwise it'll sit there idle.
If u claim 10 ilv and it cost $5 I consider that to be free š Iād be happy paying $100 if Iām claiming 10 Ilv
haha. that's why taking gas into account is very important. you don't wanna lose money. The highest fees I have paid have been $13 (ever) I'm good at waiting lol
But thatās nothing right, 10ilv is bout 2k worth. How much have u got staked if ur able to claim 10 every week?
It was way higher at the beginning. now it's not one week. it drops and keeps dropping. I really haven't looked at the dashboard in like 3 days. lol
Whatās not worth it?
can we ask core contributors to make more animated icons, please?
checking the dashboard everyday
Will revdivs rewards ever stop?
U must have 1000s staked to claim that though right?
Yow noob question. I invested in SLP instead of ILV now I'm seeing the ilv price go higher. Should I have invested in ILV solely instead?

hahaha no way
this is cute as fuck
nope. as long as people spend in game, Rev will flow
Only if the entire ILV eco systems fails.
Every game released from now on will create RevDis
It really depends on your plan. no one can tell you what pool to invest in. it's merely done through the plans you have and what works out for you and you alone
Hold on⦠then how the hell are you making 10 ILV a week?!!
So currently while the game is not out yet I only earn when someone buy ilv?
R u saying ur not a whale š³ š
I'm not. whoever said that? lol at the begining when APY was higher (over 300%) the rewards were also higher
nope.
We can only but dream š bet u that stormi is a whale though lol
no you earn by every block. make sure you claim rewards otherwise they will be sitting there idle.
well you should ask him š
Haha probably better I donāt know, would just make me sad lol
1 ILV is better than 0. remember that. No need to compare and get sad about the things other people have and you don't.
<- not a whale. Might be for whatever comes after ILV in the future but not a whale now.
there's your answer š @normal blaze š
I would have staked 5.000 or even 10.000 ILV if I had the money, yeah, that much I do believe in this. But nowhere near enough funds to get to those numbers š
that's a lot of Zeroes lol
you claim it and stake again?
When you claim ILV as rewards it gets automatically locked for 12 months and staked in the ILV pool with a weight of 2.0
nope. claming stakes it directly. more complete answer š
Thanks. How do I work out how many ETH and ILV per LP token?
What about little planktons like me, the ilv reward will take ages to reach 0.5 ilv even, do I still claim or generally just as long as the gas is lower than the reward?
50 / 50 split in $ value
ok then divide by LP tokens?
The whole SLP staking funnel would be:
- You take your ILV/ETH here: https://app.sushi.com/add/ETH/0x767FE9EDC9E0dF98E07454847909b5E959D7ca0E
- You provide a 50/50 ratio of both (in $)
- You get SLP tokens back
- You take those SLP tokens here: https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core
- You stake your SLP tokens in the Sushi LP pool with whatever locking period you want
- You claim your rewards as ILV or sILV (whatever you prefer) whenever enough rewards have piled up for you to justify gas fees
If you never provided LP before though, make sure to understand IL: https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained
as long as the gas is worth it, you can claim. you'll get revenue for that later which would compensate the price you pay for gas. and the rewards will lower your avg anyway. you have to wait longer to claim ofc so you wouldn't pay a lot of gas and claim a tinybit
So I guess once the gas is lower than reward Iāll do it, thanks!
I will be staking more. Just maybe on the flexible side.
no worries. patience will always be rewarded. make a plan and stick with it.
I got in at $240 mark and got 5 more ilv. I am a little bigger plankton now.
Hrm, something went wrong when I want to stake more just now. It failed.
Anyone can help?
I was trying to claim and stake in core pool ilv with 5 more ilv.
what error does it give you?
š out of gas, how to adjust?
ok. lemme send you a link
go through the messages. I helped him and it worked. if you needed further help let me know
How much do I have to raise it to?
whatever it is, put 50,000 more.
if it's 250,000, then make it 300,000
I am at the advanced tab. So the current gas limit is 279111, Inadd 50000 to it?
make it like 350,000 it should go through
ok. save it and go with it. I thik you can also use the fast option. it should go through fast
Sad, the rejected transaction cost $$$
ofc. rejection causes you to lose ETh
Is ok. I can bear with it, consider it to be school fees for learning.
It went through, thanks again Arash, if not I might lose even more $$.
yep. failure is the greatest teacher. Just don't repeat your mistakes lol
anytime š always happy to help
And itās weird, the gas fee for the successful transfer is less than the rejected one.
Arash, where was the level for plankton crab all the way to whale and dominating whale hierarchy chart?
well at least you didn't pay much more than you had to. later the rewards and Rev will compensate for your loss
It is in #š°ćtoken you're gonna have to search for it lol
Ya. I am now fully vested. Locked in for 1 year, just click and forget, waiting for the day the revdis and price of ILV to allow me to buy lambos
Ok.
just don't forget to claim occasionally
I will when the gas is low and I have more value reward vs gas.
Faster rate of ilv returnsā¦wohoo!
Yes ur right, 21 is all I have but happy with that since i only bought a week ago
Me 2 š
and you're already in profit and that is good. profit will be even higher once Rev starts flowing in
Ok so let me get this straight: I put in my $ILV, that started generating rewards, those I claimed and they were vesting. Do they become a part of my stake, effectively increasing my rewards?
yep
Also before claiming?
Nope. after claiming they become a part of your stake and add to your weight. (not your weight lol. your ILv weight) but will have different release dates.
Ok then I understood correctly
glad you did š
Time to claim
have fun š
Hi guys, I found the chart. I am no longer a plankton, am a shrimp now. Muahahah.
hi friends im kinda new, i want to put 2eth onto siushi ilv staking, i have meta mask and binance how do i buy ILV
and how do i do the core pool locked 12 months 600% yield stake sushi ILV any simple instructions, i read the guide but thats assuming i have ILV and that was the old ILV ETH pool
pls help thanks3
Article about ILV staking in general: https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
thx
Info about Sushi LP:
- You take your ILV/ETH here: https://app.sushi.com/add/ETH/0x767FE9EDC9E0dF98E07454847909b5E959D7ca0E
- You provide a 50/50 ratio of both (in $)
- You get SLP tokens back
- You take those SLP tokens here: https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core
- You stake your SLP tokens in the Sushi LP pool with whatever locking period you want
- You claim your rewards as ILV or sILV (whatever you prefer) whenever enough rewards have piled up for you to justify gas fees
If you never provided LP before though, make sure to understand IL: https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained
thanks so much i appreciate it will check it out now
ah i dont know what liquidity is, for the core pol what token is required, cant i just buy illuvium and then stake it in core sushi lp pool? sorry im noob XD
for example if i simply swap my eth for ilv on sushi swap
then get my ilv and stake it in core pool? XD
No. My answer to you provides a clear step to step list. This is what you need to do. If you don't understand it you might wanna refrain from providing liquidity and consider the ILV only pool first. That one needs ILV only and is explained in the article I linked before š
oh ! so liquidity option must be used and thats the specific method, ah i guess its a different method altogether, ok i will look into it now thanks alot š
so basically if i have 2 ethereum i need to turn 1 ethereum into ILV tokens
then provide liquidity 1 ethereum and ILV equivalent to 1 ethereum https://app.sushi.com/add/ETH/0x767FE9EDC9E0dF98E07454847909b5E959D7ca0E
and i get SLP tokens for both liquidity providing
then those tokens go into the core sushi LP pool right
or do i just provide my 2 ethereum in the liquidity pool at max and get slp back and just go to core and stake the slp i have ? https://app.sushi.com/add/ETH/0x767FE9EDC9E0dF98E07454847909b5E959D7ca0E
thanks alot !~!!
When you provided liquidity to the sushi pool you get SLP tokens in return. Those tokens can be staked in the Sushi LP Core Pool to get ILV rewards.
The other option is to stake ILV tokens directly, that's the ILV Core Pool.
oh ok
like this?
i got 1.6 eth today tomorrow i plan to buy more and want to stake 2 eth total
so i do this? get slp and go to core pool? or do i do it 0.8 eth at a time
You should add the instructions to add the wallet address of the SLP. Just a suggestion
hi guys, I just claimed some rewards from the LP, the transaction shows as completed on erherscan but on the frontend nothing has changed. I have refreshed the page multiple times as well. Anyone had the same issue?
the token right haha
ok ill watch the staking video as well lets see
first time staker sorry
Its ok.
Just want to say thank you for all the great advice given here⦠I am new to this type of investing, and have read the different guides, watched some on youtube and followed the discord chat for the last 3 days⦠and decided to give it a go and have just staked my first 10ILV (locked it for 12 month because I belive in the project) everything went smooth šš
Well I finally staked my ilv , best savings account I have ever opened š
So looks like the whole market cap is staked right?
No. Flashpool and ETH is in the total staked value shown on the staking page as well
Just disconnect my wallet canāt see it, how much is it?
AXS flash pool alone is 70m
Whatās the best app for getting ilv to stake
And how to transfer it to the illuvium site
There is an article about staking here: https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
Hi, i heard that the only ILV pool APY will only going down by time, is it true?
I staked some ILV in but i don't really understand the under-mechanism of it
Someone said that APY in ILV pool will foing down because of the rewards claim
Claimed ILV rewards are vested in the ILV pool, yes. Also, rewards in general decline by 3% every 2 weeks. For more, you should read about the tokenomics first and then come back if any questions are left:
https://docs.illuvium.io/whitepaper/tokenomics
https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
https://medium.com/illuvium/29-governance-yield-farming-and-vault-distribution-faq-7327ae7eb507
Ok thx š
Wonāt be huge corrections with all this staking right, ?
AXS flashpool has 0 influence on ILV price right now since its AXS staked there not ILV. But in general, there is a huge part of circulating supply of ILV staked right now, yes, and this will for sure help to safeguard us from huge corrections.
hahaha i finally did it i got in to the core pool 1.6eth today .4 tomorrow wanna stake a nice round two
i did liquidity 0.8 eth to ILV
and then ilv to eth in same amount and slp i staked core pool locked slv thanks
2.48 slp staked loll
Hey frens am I doing this right? So if APY won't change and price I would earn around 500$ for one month ?
Looks good to me, except that APY for the ILV core pool will keep dropping for sure, while price - in my opinion - will keep going up a lot.
that's what I thought too š perfect then I will deposit now thx so much
Ok so question. I've been reading about staking and I need some help wrapping by smooth brain head ass around the concept. Can someone help me understand the different pools. And how they work and what I should be looking for?
I'm currently invested into just over 2 ILV. Looking to purchase more here this evening and was interested in staking around half of my total investment. But I can't seem to wrap my big dumb idiot head around the concept and what exactly I'd need to do to start even after reading the guides. So if someone can dummy it down for me
why is LP APY going up instead of down?
People might be dropping out because of IL or selling for profits or ..
Hey guys what a ride itās been!!! Appreciate all the help from community here. If rewards accrue to like 10 ILV every other day, does it make sense to claim them unless gas price is too high? I think even 5 ILV is worth it??
well if gas is cheap and you have enough ILV to claim, claiming will be worth it as it compounds to your stake and starts generating rewards
will fees decrease because of eip 1559 on august 4? then we can claim more often
probably not. I don't think it's a gas related update, but I might be wrong. ETH 2.0 is gas related for sure
Yeah math says I should but its just hard to believe so good š
enjoy the life-long profits lol
Iām in other LPs as well but Will have to see how all these projects turn out, this pool has been amazing and the community is by far the most engaging!
glad to hear it. š
What I canāt really wait is Rev dis..itās like owning a part of business and futureš
hmmm revenue distributing will be part of staking in the future?
or will it be like revenue is taken to buy more ilv and distributed as yield for staking
Is there a guide on how to convert my Sushi LP back to ETH+ ILV?
ic thats nice! thanks for the info!
I just purchased my first ILV, and transferred them into MM. How do I stake?
you can either go for SLP or single pool.
Thanks
Did you say 10 ILV every other day????????
Hi. Noob question. What will be the effect for people who are already staking when ILV goes high say like usd 1,000?
depends on the pool. for the single asset pool, nothing will happen. for the SLP, IL will happen
Thank you for the answer. Why some people are excited if ILV goes up? They plan to buy lambos if ILV goes up to that level lol or maybe I misunderstood.
hmmm I really didn't understand your question. If ILV moves up in price they can sell and take profit, but most won't do that.
happy to help š
Is anyone tracking what percentage of circulating tokens are being staked?
the data needed is on the staking page. And of course SLP doesnāt count
Nice time to claim
agreed. I'll join you
20 usd in gas for me today on claims
I paid $15 now. not baaaaad, not good
Yeah, $14 for both pools just now for me
the first RevDis will cover all the fees paid and more
A few days of those rewards being in the single stake pool will cover my gas, lol
š³
Was waiting for me lol
Haha, just a few weeks build up of my slp rewards
Slow earning for me in single pool.
Hows the rewards treating you guys
okay not something speciel yet
Rewards are just rewards: free ILV whatever the amount, it is awesome, though in terms of SPECIAL, wait to you receive REV
yeah i'm not complaining lol
staking rewards are insane so far
@cunning perch can you point me in the direction where I can read about how REV is going to work?
will be sad in the future when it's a fraction of what it is now lol
All the stuff is in the white paper in the website and #šćhelpful-links (I suggest going through all the mediums)
10-4
Well IF people withdraw l, they lose their weight and there will be more rewards and Rev for the ones in either pools. The Rev itself will probably be insane and since more players will probably join everyday it will probably go up. So...i don't see the sadness here š
oh yeah the revdiv should make up for it haha, just love seeing the apy in early stages. most other coins im staking are like 9-11% apy...
Yes. You can find it in the medium articles. Though since the game is not out and market place and minigame haven't started yet, there's none. Once they start, 100% of ETH used in them will be used to buy ILV several times a week and distribute all of it to the stakers
Yeah. I'm curious to know how low ours can go.
Guess not that much lower. ILV pool will go down quite quick, but SLP pool will be constant
For me ILV pool is more important since I'm in it and it'll probably keep going down. Curious to know how far down it'll go. š
by year 3, i think probably single digit
just looking at the staking reward distribution chart, and likely more staked in the pool
Probably. Many (me included) will stake Rev Share as well. Might just take out the cap and stake the rest of it. Token number matters
When YF is done, the ones who fully withdraw will revoke their right to receive Revenue. So....guess what will happen to the ones who have lots of tokens and stay in the pool!!!! Haha
in three years Iād expect apy to be a small afterthought/bonus when compared to income from revenue distribution
Exactly.
Well said.
Anyone have the same issue where claiming in the a sushi pool also forces you to claim from the ILV pool?
Want to claim decent ILV from sushi pool but not efficient to claim from ILV pool
yeah agreed
Should I stake my ILV as ILV or SUSHI LP
I have two friends that would like to stake their ILV but their transaction is currently pending and it has been over an hour now. Should they just wait?
Not an "issue" exactly... that's intended.
When you claim from the LP rewards, it will automatically claim rewards from the ILV only pool as well, if you have any.
Well it is an issue on that you pay double gas fees
Depends solely on your plans and decision.
You can ask them to add more gas.
That's going to be a decision left up to you! Sushi LP looks promising with the APY being up there but make sure you research Impermanent Loss and understand the risk before making your decision š
Which one would you recommend?
I plan on getting high returns, and play the game aswell. Both for the fun and joy of it, but also as an investment/business
So sushi lp has a risk, while the other one is just normal staking?
Will do. thanks
Correct. Sushi LP is where you will be providing liquidity so you will have to have equal amounts of ILV and ETH (USD $ value) So take a look at this article to get a better understanding of the risk: https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained
It's not about my recommendation. Make sure u understand Impermanent Loss fully. @final steppe shared it š
Sure thing, I will take a look at it!
Yes, claiming your LP rewards will incur double the gas fees. So it's recommended that you assess your rewards balances in both pools and wait to claim when it makes the most sense to you considering the amount you'll have to pay for gas.
Keep in mind that while you are paying 2x the gas fees... you're getting 6x the APY š
and we have to buy sushi to stake?
No. If you're planning to join SLP, you need ETH and ILV (equal in Monetary value)
perfect....thanks...for some reason i had that in my head but i wasn't sure....
One of the pinned messages from Stormi goes through the process... or you can click here: #š„©ćstaking message š
no worries š
thats exactly what i needed....thanks guys!
this community....and i say this lots....is like non other
glad to hear it. we tend to help as much as we can. don't hesitate to ask whatever is on your mind that bugs you or you don't understand
i think ive been here since january....possibly february....greatest purchase and greatest project to follow šÆ
You can yield farm ILV in 2 main pools.
ILV/ETH at a 1:1 ratio USD values matched or ILV Only. 3 Million tokens will be distributed through yield farming over a 3 year period, with the first year being 1.8million tokens. Only unlocked tokens can yield farm which is less than 1 million tokens. Meaning, you get the maximum rewards possible. You can lock up your tokens for a maximum of 1 year which can increase your weight in the pool up to 2x. More details will be published before Yield Farming goes live near the end of May. Until then, here is more information: https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be If you don't know what Yield Farming is you can start researching here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClnnLI1SClA
The impermanent loss you'll read about applies to the ILV/ETH Sushi LP pool.
The ILV only pool doesn't have that risk as you're only staking your one asset.
Thanks a lot! Mods here are elite
haha. š enjoy. don't hesitate to ask whatever you don't understand
Wen lambo
that even I don't understand lol
I jest š
Same.
Why throw away your perfectly good crypto into a depreciating asset like that?!
(Channeling Rahlord right now :D)
EXACTLY. thx for confirming š
Anyone else stuck at this?
"Before you can continue, you'll first need to approve your wallet to stake your tokens.
Click the button below and then confirm in your wallet when prompted."
Been buffering for 1 hour now
Okey
I did 1 small mistake. I redid it 3 times, cuz i thought it was lagging. SO now i paid feed 3 times hehe š
It went through now!
If you have an outstanding transaction, can you 1) turn off the device which I itiated the transaction, and 2) switch the metamask wallet to a different blockchain before the transaction resolves? Nooby crypto questions I'm afraid
I'm happy just to leave the transaction ticking over, for it to execute when gas drops
So looking to do things which won't cause it to cancel essentially
I wanted to shut down my pc but was unsure if that will mess with a transaction initiated on my pc
Amazing, thank you @livid lark <3
@livid lark I have a question ā : how many transaction can you do at the same time? Does it matter to wait for one to go through and then start another one, or can you do both simultaneously? Just out of curiosity.
Hmmm. so from the same wallet many transactions can run all together
yeah I meant that. so if I run more, one is done then the next moves up
Gotcha. thx a mil š
The exact same thing happened to me yesterday... First time staking
@gloomy gazelle gave a projection for this..
Hmmm. Can u send the link?
try resetting your Metamask, that should cancel any transactions in there
Sorry, I explained it badly. I wanted to make sure they didn't cancel
question.. if i stake more to either pools ( ILV or ILV/ETH), there wont be any additional rewards tab right (merged/compounded rewards)? im thinking the vesting tab will only increase as they are staked at different dates..
thanks.. as always.. š„°
dm..
Thx
The ILV/ETH SLP staking reward is on top of the fees I normally earn from just providing LP on sushiswap right? Like even without the staking reward, the SLP should grow in value over time from the 0.25% fees.
Correct
ETH + ILV increasing relatively closely and sushi fees will increase value of SLP tokens
š
thanks
so sushiswap itself has its own farming pools...
I assume I can't stake in both that one and the one on illuvium.io?
I think they do but rewards are lower and there is less staked? not 100% sure
it's really confusing to me because it says there's almost $20 million ILV/ETH SLP staked with 4% APY
that's a sizeable chunk.
4% vs. 600%? I don't understand why there would be any staking there.
@manic spindle do you know if the treasury provides any liquidity to this pool?
Not from the top of my head. @livid lark maybe?
I guess it's not too surprising since there's a lot of people owning naked ILV without even staking in ILV only pool.
I think I'm just a little confused about which pool is being referred to here... I'm guessing the ILV/ETH pool, yeah? 
And now just to confirm, the SLP tokens received from the initial liquidity provided by the Treasury is currently staked in the Sushiswap pool and yield farming Sushi rewards, right?
But even with flexible staking it's still
Yeah... you beat me to it
LOL
I'm comparing the LP pool on sushiswap itself (paying out Sushi) vs. the LP pool on illuvium.io. If you go to https://app.sushi.com/farm and just look up ILV, you'll find the pool I'm talking about.
Ahh yeah that's what I was mentioning up above. This likely has to do with the recent IIP that was passed.
Prior to ILV staking going live, the treasury already had SLP tokens from when they initially provided liquidity on Sushiswap for people to begin buying ILV. In the IIP that passed, it was voted that those SLP tokens that the treasury gained early on should be staked on Sushi and earn SUSHI rewards (#š°ćgovernance-news message)
cool, thanks. No point for the treasury not picking up free yield if it's already providing liquidity. Am I correct in assuming that pre-seed, seed, team, treasury cannot stake in ILV only pool either? Is the idea to incentivize the community and leave these rewards for people like me? š
Team/Seed tokens will start unlocking linear over 12 months as of March 30 2022. What people then do with their tokens is up to them as far as I know, so they could be staked, I think. Until then, Team/Seed tokens only get RevDis, no chance to YF rewards from staking
ok sure, but the current locked (team/seed) tokens cannot be staked?
I think you just said that, so nm
This proposal was passed by the council back then: #š°ćgovernance-news message
So. I got a few ILV on Gate.io, do I withdraw that to my metamask wallet to Stake? Because I dont see an ILV token available on Metamask
To see ILV on MM you probably have to add it manually. Try the fox icon next to contract top right here: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/illuvium or copy the address and add a custom token manually in your wallet. You should also be able to see whatever unstaked balance you have by checking here: https://staking.illuvium.io/dashboard
is that it?
If you took the contract address from coingecko, then it should be fine, yes. The icon unfortunately is just colored not the official
Looks to be the correct one
0x767fe9edc9e0df98e07454847909b5e959d7ca0e
Looks good. I have the same icon for ILV on MM
so I don't see a different address for ILV. It should be the same one with ETH mainnet right?
Doesn't really matter anyway. Got all ILV staked so it's 0 on MM anyway š
Idk why MM doesn't upload the token pics. That pretty logo is a colourful ball in MM lol
No receive button. So I assume it share the same address as ETH?
This is in your ETH Wallet, yes.
yes. It's your ETH address.
ive been waiting on my SLP to stake for over an hour, any insight?
increasing the gas maybe?
Hi, do you have a compound staking calculator that takes into consideration gas fees? I am able to stake only a small amount and want to check whether it is worth it
why don't you follow gas prices? you can find it on the right corner or at gasnow.org...........any number below 15 Gwei is considered reasonable
I just want to see when I should claim to max returns
@half idol try changing the numbers based on the current ones. it might be close. But I would say claiming/staking is a personal decision based on comfortablity and convenience
try saving or copying it
Thanks! Just sent the access request. I think I am ok just investing for the long run, so it would be only a mathematical thing... unless I am missing something
doesnt even let me load the doc, comes straight to a request page
I think you can download it so you won't need an access
not that i can see
we need acces
well it's as I said a matter of preference. in the long run you will have more rewards, but make sure you claim, since claimed rewards will be locked for a year
can you download it? go in file and download
yeah I think we need access in order to download it
we can't you need to do a "can only look" - "Share with link"
its still "request acces"
Idk how to revoke the (access requirement) lemme get back to you.
i know give me a sec and i can show
nvm
i can see "Copy of ilv compound calc (ILV)" - Is that the one?
yeah
Great! I can use it now thanks
no worries.
sent u request ;P
Tnx for the dox arash ima try it.
No worries guys. I need to figure out how to turn the request requirement off lol
HEy guys. $22,00 staking fee price right now.. is it worth to wait?
Maybe wait a bit
I said a bit like i know it will get lower lmao I don't
Just saying maybe pay attention to gas
When I staked I paid 16$
What is Current apy in the ilv pool?
Not sure
ok. I think i will wait a bit
probs a good idea
108% when locked for 12 months for 2.0 weight
Tnx
what is the boost in ilv pool?
guys try downloading the file and save it on your computers
do i have to pay almost 30usd to stake my 1 ilv token?
Hi guys, I'm new on this staking thing, In the sushi swap, I bought ILV in swap then afterwards, did the liquidity pool thing. Will my ILV be staked at Sushi LP?
right now gas is a bit high, so it's probable. Gas won't care really how many tokens are being swapped or staked
At current gas prices, perhaps. May be best to wait for the GWEI to decrease.
For LP:
- You take your ILV/ETH here: https://app.sushi.com/add/ETH/0x767FE9EDC9E0dF98E07454847909b5E959D7ca0E
- You provide a 50/50 ratio of both (in $)
- You get SLP tokens back
- You take those SLP tokens here: https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core
- You stake your SLP tokens in the Sushi LP pool with whatever locking period you want
- You claim your rewards as ILV or sILV (whatever you prefer) whenever enough rewards have piled up for you to justify gas fees
If you never provided LP before though, make sure to understand IL: https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained
thx for the answer @cunning perch and @final steppe is it worth to stake 1 ILV token? I have 2.04 now
ILV Single Pool Claim
try using this file guys. I don't think it needs access anymore @half idol @rich patio @thin patrol @twilit sky
well It's a matter of prefrence. Rn if you stake you pay a lot for gas. but that's a decision you have to come up with. Try using the formula I sent to see how long it will take you to claim so it might help you
Thanks much mate
What Arash said. It all depends on your plan for yourself.
If ILV is a long term hold for you, I'd say it's worth it to stake your ILV so that you can farm more ILV as time goes on. No reason to let it sit there in your wallet doing nothing. And then of course, perhaps wait for the gas fees to go down before you stake it.
will we be able to play the game once it releases with the staked ilv? or will we need another currency to purchase in game staff?
Ingame currency is ETH, no ILV needed
the currency (main) is ETH.
Another option is if you have ILV and are staking it, you can claim "sILV" as rewards and that sILV can be used in-game instead of ETH š
Oh ok, great. Just want to be able to transfer part of my initial investment to gameplay eventually after release
@half idol did you download the file I sent mate? did it work?
yeah! thank you so much. Just one question, what is the boost?
it depends on the locking period. if you lock for 52 weeks (1 years) it will be 2. means you get double the weight. You can see it while locking your tokens
I am a little confused, I was staking LP tokens with no lockup.. so the apy was hovering around the 315% mark.... I decided I wanted to lock up to get large apy and weight. My assumption was this lets say before i was averaging a reward of .15 a day...... so after locking and apy increasing to over 600% plus the weight of 2 I thought I should be receiving an reward of roughly .6 daily..... however the reward is only half that at .3
and if it is flexible?
for flexible I think @manic spindle can be a better reference. Don't wanna mislead you š
Flexible staking is 1.0 token weight. Full 52 weeks locking period is 2.0 and in between depends on the amount of weeks you choose below 52.
I see, so it basically is the weight. Thank you!
you do get 0.3
Yes, locking period affects your token weight which affects your rewards from Yield Farm and RevDis
just reading through this and all, if someone would be so kind as to simplify what 1 ILV staked in the ILV pool would = in gas fees (whether that is daily or just per claim I do not know) and what I could gain via $ILV in a 52 week lock in? Also related - which pool does give ILV or would I have to do the aforementioned LP swap in the sushi pool to get ILV back?
ilv poolm 100%
you can play around on the site and see
No one can tell you what you get in 52 weeks because no one knows what the APY will be over time. Right now, when locked for 12 months, your APY in the ILV Pool would be ~108% so that would be your gain over a yeah IF it would remain stable the entire time.
Rewards can be claimed as ILV or sILV regardless of pool choice
Gas fees are fluctuating constantly, so those we cannot predict, sorry.
Gas fees are going to vary all of the time depending on when you claim...
yea sorry let me be specific - how often would i pay for a gas fee
im guessing its each time I can claim and i dont have to claim at a specific point right?
Up to you. You have to claim manually and you should only do so when there are enough rewards piled up to justify gas fees
or use the file I sent above
You'll pay gas fees when you:
- Stake tokens
- Any time you claim Rewards
- Unstake/Withdraw tokens
i checked the file and had a brain aneurysm š
hahahahaha
okay got it thanks! so the pool links are on here somewhere right?
yeah illuvium.io
i regret not buying 10 ilv when it was at 30 during the dip but i was too concerned about my other holdings š
your regrets hurts me lol so painful I know
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yea im big on the ilv future but the crash had me concerned and gunshy, it happens
hopefully you guys just airdrop me some of that remaining ilv tokens š
sushi pool at 600% apy.... š¤
yeah many opportunities in crypto
Question, if i claim 1lv is it going to be the value now that i am getting after vesting period?
yeah
When you claim 1 ILV it is 1 ILV and will have the price 1 ILV has when withdrawn š
it will be equal to the price of ILV and will add to your weight and compund to your stake.
OK, not sure if this has been answered, or if it's possible, but what happens if eth buys enough ILV that the treasury runs out?
like so much ETH is spent in game that it will end up draining ILV from LP?
Essentially yeah. Let's say it's ten years and 5 games from now
Thanks Stormi, ethlost, Arash. So it compounds, meaning if i staked 1lv and claim 1lv rewards, it will add up to my 1lv staked? Forever??
I think the price would skyrocket too much for that to happen but even if - then we simply pay out ETH as RevDis directly or whatever alternative the council approves.
Claimed ILV rewards are yours, they are staked as well and can be withdrawn after 12 months, yes.
Good point. The council would just approve a work around for rev distributions to continue. Thanks :)
Thanks Stormi. Are you the apex streamer? lol
Yeah as stormi said this will explode the price lol
No š
I guess the only way it happens is if the revenue slips under the radar. We expect x players week one but it's 1000 times that. The rev distribution is crazily more than we predict. But still, unlikely and work around are possible
yeah what you say is not imprbable. it might be possible, but by the time RevDis gets sooooooo high that would end up buying all the ILV in LP, I guess we'll have more circulating supply. It would be crazy to see after all the games, the Revenue end up buying all X million tokens from LP. the price of ILV will be Atomic then.
It was just a thought experiment really, but glad it has a work around:)
yeah. evven if that happens and the Revenue ends up being more than all the ILV tokens, after buying all the ILVs, if there was still Rev left, they can distribute ETH I guess lol I wouldn't mind ETH too haha
First world problems at that point, lol
yeah. lots of money Now what do we do with it š
Hey, apologies if this has been asked before. Iām thinking about tax in the EU & have only just realised this could be tricky. How does everyone tend to keep on top of this? When you claim, take a note of the amount claimed & corresponding current ATH?
Looking through my vested I can see what Iāve claimed but not its value at the time
@manic spindle the master of tax š that one is for you
*current price I meant not ATH
I'm gonna pay a shit ton of taxes in the future. I can only buy half of those purses š
haha. I hope it works out for you. doge as much as you can. Can you help @brisk surge with it? he has tax questions
can someone explain me how does stake in works or send me something about it? I mean idk how can I earn with it and what kind of rewards can i get or how can I loose on it...
Not dodging anything š #799010390201466880 message
I keep a list of transactions, yes. When I claim I keep note of amount, current ILV price, gas fees, etc. so I know what value I received and thus have to pay taxes on. You can always look at charts to determine prior days ILV prices if you need to backtrack something
wow that was intense typing lol
Ha @manic spindle reading that linked msg I can see you hodl for 1 year In Germany & then you don't have to pay tax... is that how it works in Germany? Maybe I should move haha
Thanks man
I hadn't thought of the gas price at the time either
You can check gas fees in your transactions on etherscan. And yes, in Germany you can sell tax free after holding for a year. If you used tokens for staking like here though that timeframe is 10 years instead. If you want to avoid taxes due to staking etc. do your due diligence š
From what I understand, stakers in neither the ILV only pool nor the LP pool receive any kind of token in return, right? So this means it's not possible to transfer the stake to another wallet. If say you stake a large locked amount with one wallet address, you wouldn't have the flexibility to transfer a portion of that stake to another address.
Sorry, I think you misunderstand. I mean a "staking token." Of course you receive ILV rewards.
Like when you stake at sushiswap, you get an "LP token."
OK, good to know. I was thinking about staking from one address, and then in the future distributing as I saw fit to other addresses. But it looks like I need to stake from multiple addresses to begin with if I want my ILV staking diversified over multiple addresses.
Lets see if they change that stupid law
Usually if you're concerned about the security of your wallet, you'd just transfer all coins to another address right? Just wondering how that would work here. What if you're worried about your address while you're locked in a stake. Would it be a race against time against any malicious hackers for right when the stake unlocks?
I believe most people use a Cold Wallet and since Seeds are kinda the only way to access your wallet it's kinda improbable that any hacking can happen.
I mean sure...but things happen right? What if you lose your cold wallet at the airport? Again, the usual security measure is to transfer funds to a clean wallet ASAP.
Barnbridge BOND staking partner ?
@abstract comet It wouldn't really matter if you lost your cold wallet in an airport
COld wallet itself means nothing really. I can throw it in a crowd and no one can acess it since it is password protected and to access it they need my 24 seed words. so without it it's useless to them
well you should not lose your seeds at any cost.
ok, but just to clarify, once you stake from a wallet, you need to wait until the lockup period is over before you can transfer anything over to another address.
Yes
thanks
what Rah said lol š
If it's a trezor, w/o a question move it out.
Guess Iāve become a small shrimp š
So your token weight has to do with the distribution you receive for the treasury buying ILV??
10 every couple of days makes sense
the APY is quite high. I've essentially made more in reward than my og investment in ILV
Isnt impermanent loss killing your profits? Or does the reward outweight that?
if i stake for example 1 ILV, and tomorrow i stake 1 more and next week stake 1 more... later when i claims my rewards, can i claim it all in one?
Those who staked 100k USD 2 days ago, already lost 60k due to IL
You can claim the rewards all at once yes
yes
But everytime you add to your stake, your are forced to claim rewards
50k, not 60k
will SLP token stakers be eligible for the in game transaction rewards as well?
Yes
YEs- it has the risk of dampening your gains if ILV was to moon. The pool will have to rebalance buy more ETH to keep it even so essentially you will have less ILV. That is not necessarily a bad problem, let's hope it moon. Conversely, if it goes down in value vs ETH u end up buying more ILV and softens the blow of a downswing. Overall, the main idea is that the APY will compensate you (more than compensate you) for IL.
Is there a problem with claiming? I canāt seem to claim my ILV at the moment.
Are you getting failed transactions?
It says āU2F device ineligibleā while it isnāt the first time for me claiming with my ledger through metamask, and I changed literally nothing....
Did you update your eth app
You need to go into settings and allow contract data in your eth app
Also in metamask disable the Ledger live bridge
Don't have ledger live opened
Not working. I didnāt change anything. Donāt understand a bit of it.
Iāll try tomorrow again. Off to bed now.
when I claim rewards it prompts me to claim for both ILV and ILV-ETH. Is there a way to only claim ILV-ETH? I don't have enough staked in ILV for claiming to be worth it, but it prompts ILV first and won't go to ILV-ETH if I reject it
I'm trying to stake but my transaction has failed 4 times already. Anyone know why?
not enough gas