🎮〕illuvium-zero

[paper lily]

Yes..hocus pocus

[ocean haven]

if even the team telling you dosent make you understand, theres no point 🙂

[harsh acorn]

Are blueprints still a thing for the ILV-0 Alpha release?

[flat steeple]

Haven’t heard anything saying they are not. Good assumption to say they are still apart of Alpha

[harsh acorn]

I figured that was the benefit given to early adopters/landowners. I saw some people claim it may be pushed back but I never saw anything official confirming

[humble lichen]

Idk for how much a T3 goes now, but seems like 10-20 ILV would be a good deal

Gonna be very fun to see this all play out 😬

[flat steeple]

@paper lily does this check out? I’m to sleep to think

[hazy jewel]

I’m still doing maths

[paper lily]

All good. Unfortunately no. The fallacy here is assuming 20k plots for 5%. You should consider 100k plots for 5%, against 10m ILV tokens (both fully diluted)

[flat steeple]

Ahhh

[humble lichen]

True you can change the assumptions if you want, if you assume 100k lands it would be equivalent to 351/5=70.2 ILV

But I don't think all 10M ILV will be staked, there will always be some on binance or whatever

[paper lily]

Fair point - that makes ILV more attractive than my back of envelope maths

[humble lichen]

Also timeframe of going to 100k lands would be loonnggg (if ever I think)

[paper lily]

Yes but 5% / 95% is a static ratio and we are looking at steady state (I believe all 100k plots will be sold within first couple of years)?

[flat steeple]

By than I would assume they knock up the percentage of fuel land owners provide as well. Maybe +5% every land sell?

[humble lichen]

We know for sure there won't be a landsale only after the game has launched (and we know coming 12 months, there will be like 5M ILV tokens in circulation)

[umbral pecan]

When iz beta??

[flat steeple]

TBD

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[humble lichen]

ooh yea could be, they will make owning land profitable, they have said so they are commited to it (can always change ofcourse)

[flat steeple]

Fraggy no more soon, please 🥹

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-gif-19121692

[flat steeple]

That’s me at this state with the “soon” and I’m not even the one asking 😂 I feel like I haven’t seen you all day

[humble lichen]

Yes agree, DAO (and ilv community) is very incentivized to sell all land asap

But it has direct conflict with the goal of making owning land preferable, so it has good balance

[paper lily]

Hmm i dont know man - i am now wishing i didnt buy multiple plots and maybe should have dumped into ILV at this cheap price

[humble lichen]

I think you did very well there personally (don't own land nor ILV atm)

[flat steeple]

Would be nice to see but then stakers would take a hit unless it balances out some how with say. 100k plots (25%) and DAO providing (75%)

[flat steeple]

I own 1 plot and after all this quick maths I putting the rest into ILV

[humble lichen]

(by "forever" i mean until 1-2 months before game is officially released)

[paper lily]

Hmm markets starting to take a dump

[humble lichen]

imo, ideally you want to buy just multiple weeks before official announcements that the official release is happening "soon" by Kieran

[shrewd nova]

I'm tired of soon.

[humble lichen]

like, you want to be 1 step before the Illuvitar trailer equivalent to the official release 😇

[flat steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/we-have-to-be-strong-eric-cartman-butters-stotch-south-park-s12e8-gif-21171238

[empty path]

Wish I also didn't have to use it that often 😉

[humble lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-hamster-gif-4508050

[flat steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-stars-stars-galaxy-space-travel-time-travel-gif-14059137

[shrewd nova]

Lol I just hope they don't delay it further

[dire pier]

loved this post, not sure if this was hit yet but 7m won't be staked. SILV being burned and not everyone staking etc. 10-20 ilv for a t3 sounds amazing, looks like it will be even higher

[dire pier]

Re: sILV hurting fuel consumption - I know aaron doesn't like sILV. Maybe we get an IIP before too long to kill it, especially if your thesis gains traction. sILV keeps doing things that seem to hurt different aspects of the project, and it's impact on overall ILV won't be realized for years.

[small star]

Today, 7.3m are eligible for revdis

[humble lichen]

It will be very interesting, you can play with the total staked ILV as you see fitting to get sort of a valuation for land, I think the T3 assumption for median fuel income of 1 plot is quite good but you can also play with that ofcourse

[dire pier]

i caught the guy saying 100k lands vs actual total too

or is it 20k now 100k total

[humble lichen]

Personally I would be against messing with the tokenomics so late into the project, but that's me

[near berry]

So the 5%...is that the pool the land owners get their payments from selling fuel or is it on top for selling fuel?

[dire pier]

it was surprising sILV never really went higher than 60% vs ILV even during the landsale, i dont think that was expecting

and really fks everything up

there's no reason to spend eth ever

[potent dock]

You realize your portion of the 5% by producing and selling fuel. There's no automated "Here's your 5%" mechanic at play. Produce Fuel, Sell Fuel, total across all land that will account for 5% of total fuel.

[dire pier]

hence no fuel, no revdis except by ppl making mistakes

but as rewards go down maybe the lower supply of sILV helps

[potent dock]

I'm not a fan of sILV2 either, but I don't think the liquid supply will ever exceed 240k like it did during the last land sale again. Mostly, likely you mentioned, because emissions are slowing down.

I think that'll be sufficient to phase it out over the next 2 years.

[dire pier]

i like it, 2 years is about right for when this all gets going anyway

[near berry]

So I sell my fuel to the pool, get amount x for doing it and also qualify for amount y (= my share of the 5% in relation to what I have sold)?

[potent dock]

It's just amount X. There is no Y.

The sum of all X = 5% of total fuel generated.

[dire pier]

so about the land being retained by the dao, what's that about? is that land developed? does it contribute fuel? is it just held to sell at some point? a significant part of the 20k lands was held by the dao this time around, right?

[potent dock]

It was mentioned in the IIP. 1 of each tier for testing purposes, and (IIRC) 20 T1 for giveaways.

Or do you mean the unsold 80k plots?

[dire pier]

no

ok got it, thought like 20% of the 20k were held by dao or treasury or something

[potent dock]

Nah, everything got sold except those (29?) retained plots. Let me find the actual number.

[empty path]

25 for give aways
4 (1 of each tier for the team for testing purposes)
And 2 T5's
(That's what I think it was at least)

[potent dock]

That's right, just checked.

[near berry]

Ok, thanks. The land plots will produce 100% of the fuel, right?

[potent dock]

Land produces 5% of all Fuel. 95% of Fuel comes from the DAO tap.

[near berry]

Damn, I should have known that before I bought land 😄

[reef echo]

that 5% has the potential to be quite large spread among relatively very few people

[near berry]

Yeah, with millions of players and a high demand from people are willing to pay for it. Otherwise 1/20.000 of 5% sounds not very profitable based on the price paid for the land.

Is there a max cap of fuel could be produced per month? Or is it theoretical possible to get an fuel inflation, when less players join than expected while high production of fuel still running?

[harsh acorn]

Peeps are just looking at fuel revenue from land. With blueprints and skins if and when this game goes mainstream could earn land owners a pretty penny. I have a co-worker that spends 100s every year in NBA 2k. He buys the new version of the game every year on top of that. If a game is fun it is absurd what people will pay.

[dire pier]

game doesn't have to go mainstream, if its the only game in crypto that's good enough

there's still 0 competition

[harsh acorn]

True that we want this game to compete with Web2 games. That's where the magic happens. In Crypto gaming there is no legit competition.

[near berry]

Agree, but blueprints are 100% luck and it´s hard to calculate with. 😉

[random cobalt]

So are we going to have to buy resources from the market to begin building on our land or will we start with the ability to select a few of our first buildings at no cost? Or something completely different?

[potent dock]

It seems extremely likely that you have enough resources to start building on your own (or that starter buildings don't require resources to construct). That's just my speculation though.

[random cobalt]

Appreciate it. That's what I assumed originally, but wanted to make sure I hadn't missed any other insights on that aspect of getting things started

[potent dock]

It's one of those things that hasn't been explicitly stated (AFAIK), but also probably doesn't need to be explicitly stated. Hitting a wall right when you load up the game where you need to somehow buy resources off (...somewhere, since other players would be in the same boat) would be super obtuse design.

My understanding is that if you wanted to, you can produce everything you need to play on a single plot of land through extractors and converters. If you wanted to speed the process up, buying resources you're missing could accelerate your plot, but isn't something mandatory.

[random cobalt]

Yea, makes sense. Looking through the infoluvial buildings breakdown and seeing that each building cost different amounts of resources got me thinking more about how the allocation of our mined resourced will be even more important for achieving specific goals with our land

[amber atlas]

@potent dock that's correct, there is also an Airdrop activity on the Nexus which gives you a small amount of each element (but takes 24 hours), so you can't get stuck and you wont be forced to use IAP, but things will take longer

[molten cave]

One doubt I still having.

Blueprints are unique? just one player will have the ownership to make a skin? or more than 1 player can get the same blueprint? with ONE blueprint I "print" several skins and sale them? We have 20k lands today 100k max total, blueprints have a max ammount, like 5.000 blueprints (5.000 skins in the game?) what means some lands will have blueprints, others dont?

[amber atlas]

they are not unique, although the difficulty in getting them and the fact that sets cycle MAY mean in some cases only one of a specific type is discovered
one player cannot get the same blueprint more than once (but theoretically they could sell their land/transfer to another account, so there is no theoretical max... at least not without getting in to the maths of timing, etc)

a blueprint is a recipe, you can follow that recipe as many times as you want, but you need to have the ingredients

[little moon]

"one player cannot get the same blueprint more than once" means another player can get the same blueprint? only that the same player can't get it twice?

[molten cave]

but blueprint is like a printer? I can "print" a skin, having the ingredients?

what means, one time blueprint is acquire, its like infinite printing, while having ingredients?

[amber atlas]

yes, if you choose to do that, if you are lucky enough to be the sole holder then you could also choose to never print, or to print ne, you control the economy

if others hold, then it is a risk, if you decide not to make skinned items, but the other holders do make skinned items, you lose out, on the other hand if you all wait you all win ... game theory and all that

[molten cave]

So, blueprint = printer, may I have more than 1 blueprint for each land?

[amber atlas]

recipe... its not like the ingredients are easy to come by... a Ramphyre skinned item requires you to burn multiple Ramphyres as part of the ingredients, printer sells that a bit short

(its like saying if you know how to make jewelery you can make a 100,000 diamond rings ... it might be true, but can you afford 100k diamonds)

and yes you can discover many blueprints per land if you invest the time and resources in to it

[molten cave]

Like, a blueprint to make a skin to a Rhamphyre is a NFT, i can sell the recipe as a NFT on the market, or owns it and "print" those skins, but to print those skins, I should burn 3 rahmphite, and for each rhamphite I have to burn 3 rhampy, something like that right?

You can make any you want, doesnt means its easy to make

[amber atlas]

yes

there are more to the ingredients, but conceptually, yes

be clear, the item you make and the blueprint you get is a specific combination: Ramphyres Power Armour 3 Stage II

this is what makes the blueprints rare, there are many many possible blueprints to discover

and the higher the level the less likely you are to discover them

[molten cave]

That means my ramphyres would have more armor?

or just cosmetic skin

[amber atlas]

no its a skinned armour for your ranger that makes them look Ramphyre like

[molten cave]

ah got it

nice, these burns of illuvials, I saw they are burned and never comeback, never comeback to that player or entire players?

because at some time with so many burns, we could have no more atlas/rhamphy for example if they are always burned to get skins

sorry for taking so many questions, But I am answering people on BR Community and the more I understand the better, I can be the guy answering other people questions

[amber atlas]

it could happen, probably unlikely if there were 3 ramphyres left in the entire universe (enough to make a skin) I imagine they would be worth an astronomical amount

I imagine it wouldn't make economic sense to burn the last ramphyres... they have more utility than the skin thus would likely be worth much more individually

in any case I need to go, ciao

[wary notch]

This should be pinned

[random cobalt]

The recipe explanation is very helpful in understanding the process

[wary notch]

@tardy sail I think the bot has a few issues, is showing a different image than the one bought.

[molten cave]

@wary notch probabily it shows the value without fees

[harsh acorn]

Will Mozart/drone blueprint/skins be obtainable from Land?

[next obsidian]

@amber atlas if blueprints require specific Illuvials, that does mean that at a certain time when Illuvials retire that the only way to make the skins will be burning those purchased on the secondary market? Drastically increasing the difficulty of crafting the blueprint.

Skins themselves are also burned to use correct? But that skinned item could in turn be sold?

Trying to understand potential blueprint / skin economy with them requiring illuvials that will retire.

I guess new blueprints released when new illuvial sets release?

[umbral badge]

My understanding is that the Skins can be broken into its parts to reuse in other Blueprint recipes.

You want to make an Atlas Chest Piece
So you look at the price of 3x Atlas Illuvials to burn for their essence to use in the crafting.
or, you look on the marketplace for other Skins that also used Atlas essence, and then you can break that down and use the parts.

This creates a more complex economy where you could even become a Skin Wrecking Yard, where you just buy up cheap Skins and break them down to recraft or sell

[wary notch]

Yes

Token trove

[harsh acorn]

When did they update that?

Last I checked I could not see both on same map

[wary notch]

Not sure, I noticed like a week or 2 ago, but thought it had always been there

Great for mega city strategy...

Specially when they add the bid function

[thin wolf]

We need bidding so bad

[wary notch]

I have mixed feeling about this, but yeah, for mega cities will be great

[thin wolf]

Why would you have mixed feelings over bidding? there are only benefits in having it as opposed to not having it.

[harsh acorn]

I think bidding is great but I don't want to be bombarded with low ball offers. I hope there is settings to disable notifications on offers under a certain amount.

[wary notch]

Scams...

[wary notch]

Nothing to do with the game, biddings have been best friends for scammers, where they often bid in bulk, say 1.1 ETH for an NFT priced at 11 ETH with the hopes of the owner not noticing and selling it 90% below it's ask price.

[tardy sail]

Thanks for letting me know, I am working on an update and it should include a fix for that.

[amber atlas]

the skinned item itself is deconstructable, the essence is not

so you can't unburn the Illuvials, but you can use that Illuvial essence to make different skinned items

(subject to change: that's what I wrote down when I first drafted out crafting, I note that Aaron or Ben may have updated this system from the initial rough draft)

[wary notch]

This would be great

[hollow shoal]

Blueprints overall should be obtainable through land. 10,000 total blueprints will be available for the first generation but not sure on how many for the first batch.

[vivid cipher]

Yeah Johnny! Sharing the good stuff

[empty path]

[tulip perch]

they let MR IZ out of his cave so IZ must be close to dropping I'd say

here's hoping anyway

[deep brook]

Heyo, where can i see which Illuvials commonly pass the 7 areas for battling?

[mystic umbra]

That’s not a scammer. That’s a smart guy capitalizing on someone else’s incompetence. I’m all for it

[obsidian patrol]

still sketchy practice

[vivid cipher]

There is no battling illuvials in the #🎮〕illuvium-zero game.
It’s only for SCANNING the illuvials that may spend more time in those regions.
I believe there’s a bit of a list on the website. The page about LAND.

Also…

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[tardy fern]

@amber atlas whats the cap on illuvials that can be collected in the game? From the sounds of it, stacking up on rare illuvials could be more valuable than the bp's

[vivid cipher]

You do not capture illuvials in the #🎮〕illuvium-zero game. Only collect bio data. That can then be used to research blueprints.

Illuvials are captured in the overworld game.

[tardy fern]

Thanks 🙂

cant believe how stable land is atm

[sly summit]

It looks like real land lol

[dusty agate]

It becomes real when IZ will be released :))

[vocal hull]

Speaking of, any timeframe updates?

[thin wolf]

I am pretty sure we need Illuvitars and the t5 auction before we get ILZ..

[little moon]

we might not even get t5 auction due to current market condition, but definitely illuvitars first then iz alpha

[wraith surge]

Wouldn't releasing Illuvium Zero alpha and Revenue distribution before illuvatars increase potential sales from illuvatars.

Don't see the rush when the game is still months away from being released and also considering the current market conditions. But then again who's to say they'll improve in 6 months time

Full faith in the Dev's and team I'm sure they have had this discussions multiple times and know what there doing. I'm just an outsider looking in

[shrewd nova]

100% expecting us to buy more things without having to have played either beta or recieve any cash in rev dis isn't right.

[amber atlas]

outsiders looking in often have unique ideas, or help us find stuff we missed

(confirmation bias and all that)

[floral locust]

Do you think Mega city will be a feature during alpha, or more likely when reset happens and main game launches?

[amber atlas]

100% not during alpha

[floral locust]

Figured so heh

[harsh dew]

Any change to see last updated tree line of buildings 😄

[fathom ridge]

@amber atlas hey man, I just sent a friend request if that's fine? Wanted to confrim some info for a video I'm doing tonight

[thin wolf]

Ohhh,what about?

[fathom ridge]

Illuvium Land, Fuels and Elements

[molten cave]

!wen

https://tenor.com/view/bubthebandit-wen-wen-mint-gif-23852820

[thin wolf]

Looking forward to it.i enjoy your videos.

[fathom ridge]

Thanks Lars!
Hoping to just put something out that'll help new people coming in over time too!
Keen to put out an evergreen video tonight! Just in that mood 😛

[dire pier]

Spaceship blueprints only scannable by megacities

[molten cave]

what

spaceship blueprints new to me, what should be that?

[dire pier]

My hopes and dreams

Grant created spaceship assets in the last stream, just my idea to pump land values

[left musk]

That was the t5 Arena...

[little moon]

it was discussed during the interview w/ Kieran and Andrew that blueprints is aimed for fair play, so a t1 has the same chance as t4, moreover, they're not unique because another one can obtain the same blueprint (although the same blueprint minted can't be minted again by the same player); the only big difference between tiers is how fast each tier can hoard up resources to scan and obtain blueprints (here, higher tier wins 4x than it's previous tier, since they generate more and faster required materials to scan/research blueprints)

[dire pier]

But megacity

[strong pewter]

What information have we heard about the gameplay of ILZ? Sweet graphics and small P2E rewards are nice and shiny, but will the game be any good? Or are we just going to be mowing the grass and emptying the trash cans twice a day?

[obsidian patrol]

its a minigame so dont expect starcraft2, the full game will be the overworld + autobattler 🙂

[shrewd nova]

I hope it's like clash of clans, I enjoyed that game

[strong pewter]

Yeah, a mini Clans element would be sweet

[gusty fractal]

maybe in the future

[shrewd nova]

At this point I'm just hoping no more delays... it was 4 weeks until right after the sale the. It became 4-8weeks so we should have only 3 weeks left

[tardy sail]

@wary notch I'm looking in adding megacities owned in the twitter bot, I'll probably use your address to test it out, how many megacities you have? You can dm the answer if you want to.

[wary notch]

I might just be the worst address for this, I have no megacities that I know of. I have been only scooping as much cheap land as possible for when the bid function comes out I'm able to get as many mega cities as possible too.

[wary notch]

I did see you fixed the 100 cap with a 100+ 👍

[wary notch]

I can get you Kieran's wallet, he has mega cities

Or just use the biggest wallet, I haven't seen how many mega cities it's got if any, but might have a few

[tardy sail]

First I want to say you are a legend, I see you sweeping the floor often. The 100 cap sucks but that's what I can work with from the API.

I'll see if I can find an address with megacities, should be a nice feature.

Also, I think the problem with wrong image should be fixed now. We'll see. 👍

[wary notch]

Thanks man, let me know if I can help with the bot at all, love it. ♥️

[wary notch]

0xcfe92ce56505692de3c49c46e87d302bd14780e1

[wary notch]

This is the biggest wallet RN

226 Plots...

It had more before, but it transfered to Kieran a bunch

Don't know if it's his tho... He said he only bought 130 so...

[tardy sail]

No worries, that should allow me to dig through and test it out.

Thanks @wary notch! 👍

[wary notch]

No prob, let me know if I can help any time

[deep brook]

found it on the site thanks, when you click on each region it pops up. So what does the scanning do exactly? make it more likely that you'll run into them in overworld? is it for illuvials or just illuvitars? that parts confusing, i get theres no battling in zero but its hard to see how your placement pairs up with experiences in overworld etc.

[stiff talon]

As far as I understand ILZ is a completely different game that interacts with the overworld. Scanning retrieves bio data from Illuvials on your land. That bio data or essence is part of an ingredient essentially and you would burn those ingredients in hopes of getting a skin. So it's literally a lottery and you could come out with nothing. It's a risk basically whenever you decide to do it. That's what I understood.

[vivid cipher]

This file may help #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[deep brook]

gotcha thanks guys

just weird that they use the same map if location doesn't have any bearing other than the district

its almost just a building layer on top of the land in another dimension

cus they both dont exist at once on top of eachother

[vestal raft]

Looks like a Lego version of ILZ (an interactive city builder made with lego bricks, in “Lego House DK”)…

[vivid cipher]

Kind of. The overworld game does not use the entire world map. It’s on a much smaller scale. It only uses small areas. While the #🎮〕illuvium-zero game uses large plots.

[stiff talon]

This is what the bearing would be if this is what you are talking about? The type of Illuvials and percentage chance of them walking on your land when scanning for Bio data.

[deep brook]

Yep but this just applies to illuvitar skins correct? I know illuvitars are getting utility but the skins are just cosmetic and super rare?

[stiff talon]

No this is for land - nothing to do with illuvitars

[deep brook]

What I was searching for tho was the list of three common illuvials that walk through each land area

[stiff talon]

Skins are just cosmetic for the Ranger, Mozart and I read about it also being used for Arenas.

[deep brook]

Found it on the map

[stiff talon]

Fair 🙌

[deep brook]

Gotcha I did see some leaks of that

Starting to make sense, just a pretty complicated ecosystem lol

[stiff talon]

Yeah it's alot haha but you gonna know everything soon!!

[radiant sky]

That's so sad... It would be awesome if every illuvial would have at least 1 special skin. The more skins the better for sure, but with 1 skin i would be happy 🙂

[stiff talon]

As far as I know you will also be able to catch Holographics I guess the equivalent to a shiny Pokemon which would be super rare and valuable.

[radiant sky]

I See... I heared about holographics, but never found out what it is exactly

[stiff talon]

Fair! Yeah I guess it would essentially have a different skin to the original like the shiny Pokemon mechanic. Originally I also thought blueprints would be used for the Illuvials or a somewhat fusion to create different Illuvials but as a TFT player and seeing how popular little legends, chibi champions and arena skins are. Having the Ranger, Mozart and Arenas have their own identity maybe just as popular.

[radiant sky]

Sure it is, and i will be happy selling those, to whoever skins are important to 🙂

[quasi hawk]

what is yalls game plan for the upcoming IZ game ?

[floral locust]

Learn everything I can and get some rare blueprints during alpha. Might also help kieran manage some plots if I'm lucky

[floral locust]

As someone new to IZ, what are you most curious about?

[umbral pecan]

I do not believe

[empty path]

Didn't you say you didn't want the blueprints? 😏

[floral locust]

On my plots I do 😉

[radiant sky]

4xt4? 👀

[floral locust]

pfft no, I was lucky to get 1 in there

[radiant sky]

👌 that's great...
There won't be sooo many with a 2x2 including a t4 except whales, i think

[floral locust]

true in the beginning yes. I don't think a lot of people with mega cities are going to want to sell lol. but when offers get implemented I think we will see more pop up. Then whenever the next land sale I'm guessing a high % of people will go for mega vs first sale

[radiant sky]

Possible, but second Landsale will Start when game is getting pretty popular, the more popular it gets the harder it is to actually buy a megacity especially at the sale

[quasi hawk]

expin the ranking of land plots and which one i should buy for best return and game experience

[little moon]

the highest tier with all the element and fuel sites you can afford

[quasi hawk]

what is this mega city stuff or whatever?

[dry mango]

when 2x2 or 3x3 lands come together they form a mega city, increasing your income

[quasi hawk]

how do you get those ? two landplots?

[little moon]

megacities, currently, afaik, are only worth it if you have a landmark site, which is only available in t3 and above

[floral locust]

Well each tier of land increases the amount of elements and fuels your plots contain. each tier also gets a static production boost to each node. For time spent it's better to get the highest tier you are comfortable with ( 4 T1's is almost the same output as t2). Another strategy people like to do is just get something in every region for blueprint variety

[quasi hawk]

how do you earn income off these lands ?

[quasi hawk]

what the best course of action

[floral locust]

Yea true, while I'm sure they have hammered out more of the details behind the scenes. the only thing confirmed about mega city is sharing the landmarks, saving building space, free resource transfers in city.

Land sale doc is the most updated info we have on mechanics. https://medium.com/illuvium/51-land-sale-explained-8cbadfb6a6b5

[floral locust]

What is your goal with land?

[quasi hawk]

awesome thanks sm !

wondering what is the best plot for my money and best strategy to earn income and enjoy the game

also is it worth buying land? is it used for the main game ?

[cyan plinth]

Awesome! Is there an easy way to see adjoining plots in the marketplace?

[dire pier]

megacities are worth it just to cut down on the time spent harvesting

i can't wait to flip all my snipes for an overpriced megacity

[floral locust]

tokentrove is the best for that right now

[cyan plinth]

Thanks. Will investigate.

[tardy sail]

https://twitter.com/Illuviumlands/status/1546581421560631296

Illuvium Lands Bot ♊️ (@Illuviumlands)

🪸🪸🪸 Taiga Boreal (213,197) was just purchased for 0.95ETH (~$1090.0)

🫅 Buyer: 0x1d47..0f52
📜 Lands Owned: 1
🧹 Tier 3 Floor: 4.505 ETH

https://t.co/N0EKLjIMjT

#illuvium

Twitter · Jul 11, 2022, 7:45 PM

RIP

[thin wolf]

What did you try to sell it for?

[dire pier]

Probably a bot

The last time that happened the buyer was a guy with a million gods unchained transactions

5x the landmark too.. the guy might resell it at floor

[tardy sail]

Nah, unless the bots creates a new address each time, it says it only has 1 in the account.

Lucky for one bad for another.

[dire pier]

He just transferred it

To a wallet with 204 trades

[worn scaffold]

Oh damn, I feel sorry for you man!

[dire pier]

Ya that wallet has almost 17k trades

Buys and sells 24hrs a day

[tardy sail]

Now looking at it, it does look like it was a bot

https:// immutascan.io/address/0x1d475ffae20abeff55de170a7d23c0f2c0e70f52

[dire pier]

But the transfer feels like a real person, why would a bot transfer.. must be some type of cyborg

[worn scaffold]

What I really hope, as the game will eventually be is as follows:

Back when I was about 10 years old and played Pokemon endlessly looking for special Pokemons in the open world and catching them, having them evaluated, trading (using infrared back then) with your friends or school friend and of course the gyms (arenas) where you could fight.

Of course we will see many of these elements back in the game, I hope it will get the same addiction as back then :D!

[shrewd nova]

I hope so idk how the auto battler will be tbh I wish it was more like normal pokemon but auto battler might be fun

They really need to let us play beta IZ

[floral locust]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[shrewd nova]

Need dates lol

[worn scaffold]

Pokemon was of course very simple, a little more challenge and strategy I think is in order 🙂

[cyan dew]

Bruh

[heavy viper]

I have a question

if a tier 3 has landmark Eternal Spring for example, but 0 lake, is it a useless landmark (except in a MC and for cheaper converting) ?

I mean the production boost is useless ?

[floral locust]

The consolation is that when you need to convert to Hydrogen it will be a little more efficient (less loss or 1:1 conversion) because of the landmark

[dry mango]

it was not said that there is a possibility to generate new sources of resources or transform them, just convert one resource into another so yes, the production boost would not be applied

[noble drum]

i believe you are correct. The landmark would then be only beneficial for cheaper converting "to" hydrogen or if you also had a megacity

personally i dont completely understand the pros and cons of the element landmarks. i mean if you have an eternal spring, do you really want 9 hydrogen element sites? cause if you had that then you would just need to convert all they hydrogen to other elements that you dont have. which sure, maybe you get a conversion boost, but is that enough to offset the fact that you still much always be "converting" all your elements rather than just natively harvesting them and using them directly?

has anyone discussed or thought about what the ideal number of matching elements is?

is it benificial to have ALL of your sites matching your landmark or is there a cutoff point where having too few of the others (or none) hurts you more than helps you?

[worn scaffold]

That's how I see it, should you want to make blueprints and such you will still need multiple resources, the same goes for the buildings.

I'm also curious if anyone here has already made a calculation. I know there is a calculator from @high sleet (youtube) that determines the rating of the land, but I believe it is based on the number of different resources and your landmark.

[fleet wharf]

t2 floor?

[trail stirrup]

Is there any land game out yet!

[mystic umbra]

Soon

[still vine]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-li-soon-real-soon-very-soon-gif-23841516

[compact nebula]

Soon is 6 months later 🤫

[mystic umbra]

I think we’ll get a lot more information this week. Dev blog should drop ‘should’ and there is an interview with andrew and grant. They wouldn’t take the interview if they didn’t have something to say so I’m looking forward to the week

[whole stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-waiting-gif-19902178

[harsh dew]

👀

[amber atlas]

the idea with the landmarks was never for there to be great variation between sites, and ideally different site compositions will be better or worse depending on market conditions/game conditions

if we notice significant, sustained, disparity then we will introduce game mechanics to balance them

[oak ruin]

sounds great

[icy thicket]

GUESS WHAT TODAY IS???

THATS RIGHT... ONE DAY CLOSER TO THE ILV ZERO LAUNCH!!

WE MADE IT!!!

(Disclaimer = No idea when actually launch is, but we one day closer lol)

[harsh acorn]

The first time I craft a blueprint and sell fuel for actual $

[noble drum]

What does this mean? “The intention was there not to be great variation beteeen sites?” If that was tru they all the sites could have just had a balance of resources. But we have sites that are balanced and some that are insanely unbalanced. And some sites have a landmark that matches tons of elements while some have landmarks that match none. That is complete variation.

[noble drum]

And this is almost scary to me. If people are buying up lands due to specific unbalance resources for one reason or another you are saying that the game mechanics can be changed to that benefit goes away?

[amber atlas]

the point was for landmarks and the site make-up to add flavour, to make land different not necessarily better

[gleaming sigil]

When the ilv zero beta will launch

[amber atlas]

to be clear, at any given point in the games life some lands of the same tier will be better than others, and undoubtedly there is commercial advantage that can be drawn from the knowledge of the meta

but we don't want major disparity, having some land at T4 to be 3x better than some other land at T4 is not a healthy place to be

[wary notch]

Speculation is on us tho... If it turns out a certain land not to have the value we're hoping when paying 2-3x the floor.

It wouldn't be the devs fault is what I mean

[amber atlas]

again if the imbalance is **significant **and **sustained **then its likely to mean a change

[noble drum]

Yea I get the notion that landmarks aren’t really supposed to be a big value add but rather just a little “flavor” as you say. Thx

[amber atlas]

another thing to note is the actual Fuels themselves may have signifcant variance in price in the short term, playing this meta game is one of the coolest things about IZ

if you know a new feature that involves crafting is coming out, and you know Solon is related to crafting, setting up your land for Solon arbitrage may be an exceptionally savvy choice (lots of Overworld players are going to be wanting Solon to try new features)

in the long term we will balance that (over the long term all Fuels should be equal), but these micro-economic games should make it super fun

[noble drum]

This still worries me a bit though. Again if people are strategically buying specific lands right now based on either balance or lopsided resources, it would seem unfair to negate that just because it’s advantageous in the future

[amber atlas]

if they are buying right now, they are doing so on pure speculation, there's nothing in the game design details released that lets you make a clear statement about that

not to mention this point has been made many many times

[dire pier]

How difficult is it going to be to transfer resources between lands? Can a t4 in crimson fuel 5 t1s in halcyon without the transfers being a major headache?

[wary notch]

This is on us man, there are no promises on their part about x type of land being so much more valuable in the future so pay up as much as you need to get it

[noble drum]

Where is the speculation? If I buy a land with 9 hydrogen sites and an eternal spring, how am i speculating? I should expect that I have insane hydrogen output. Not that something down the line will change that balance in any way

[dire pier]

He doesnt mean it will change the output, he means hydrogen might not always be the most profitable play

[amber atlas]

you will have higher hydrogen output, but also you will have trouble getting other resources, making for example it very hard to flex based on market conditions

[dire pier]

But when hydrogen is in demand, you will crush

[amber atlas]

maybe it is better to have less hydrogen and rely on conversion bonuses from your landmark

or maybe it isn't

[noble drum]

Im not trying to discuss market value of stuff I’m just trying to discuss land output.

[amber atlas]

effectively the same thing

its not like we are going to make a rule that suddenly makes you produce less hydrogen than someone without a matching landmark

however if we noticed that highly aligned sites were FAR better than less highly aligned ones, then it might influence to make features which make conversion better

[dire pier]

John mechanical diffuculty in transferring between lands.. is it going to be a headache for someone with a few t4s and a ton of t1s to distribute resources? Or can i draw from one big pool and pay a transfer fee as i withdraw resources to my t1

[amber atlas]

these kind of changes will be slow burn

(and will eventually be community voted via ICP)

but one of our current balance goals is to ensure that the value within a Tier doesn't fluctuate wildly

I mean I wouldn't consider 10-20% a wild fluctation

[shrewd nova]

When can we get our hands on it Johnny?

[amber atlas]

but if a bad T4 is less valube than a good T3 that doesn't feel right

[wary notch]

So it makes sense for people to think the team will try to make the game fair for all same tiered land plots

[amber atlas]

in any case as we mature the community will drive these decisions, so long term maybe it goes the other way, and community votes for features which make some lands much much better than other lands

[dire pier]

My t1s want to feed off my t4s without too much clickity clickity

[noble drum]

Sell your T1 s for T3 s. Less clikity 😉

[amber atlas]

there will be costs to move resources around (megacities excluded), and I imagine quite a bit of clickity clickity at the start

[dire pier]

Ty:)

[shrewd nova]

https://c.tenor.com/Sd_-KYQd1osAAAAM/popcat-wen.gif

[dire pier]

Literally never muted someone before, awesome

[amber atlas]

think of it like the ERC-20 is a token saying you own a certain amount of Fuel, but that doesn't negate the fact you need to actually send the physical Fuel to your site if you want to use it to build something

[dire pier]

Yikes alright

[shrewd nova]

https://c.tenor.com/LIzk3MiGIq8AAAAM/im-out-goodbye.gif

[amber atlas]

that doesn't mean we can't make UI improvements to make that easier down the line

but not a high priority right now

we also don't want to get to the point where people aren't playing the game, we don't want people to just manage their land like a spreadhseet

else we might as well just have a balancer pool and no game!

[dire pier]

So for scanning, t1s and t2s are probably on their own even if theres a t4 on same account with excess resources

[amber atlas]

its not that hard to send, I just meant there is time and cost associated and a good parallel is to think about physical good in the real world

having some options on some rice, doesn't mean you can cook it for dinner

[dire pier]

How about trucks and little dudes moving around the land.. is that in the pipeline

[amber atlas]

its not in the pipeline, its in the ideas tank

(i.e. no plans to build it right now, but certainly been talked about)

[dire pier]

Ya time and cost is fine, frustration about it being overly difficult was what i meant.. and i agree needs to have some difficulty or maybe excess cost and instant drinking of milkshake

[amber atlas]

as I said there will be clickity clickity 🙂

[dire pier]

That would be a good deflation mechanic.. instant access to resources across zones

But like 30% fee

[amber atlas]

its an action on a structure, if you had lots of teleport structures (Zero Point Transducers) then you could take lots of transfers at the same time

if you had one you would have to do them one after another (so one for Crypton, one for Hydrogen, one for Solon, etc)

[dire pier]

Interesting

[amber atlas]

on the flip side space for lots of Zero Point Transducers is space that isn't generating Fuel

but maybe if your T1 was like your "Research Hub" that could work

[dire pier]

Sounds like island t1s will be fine

[amber atlas]

in any case i need some lunch

ciao!

[dire pier]

Thanks for your time

[vivid cipher]

Man I love reading stuff like this

[noble drum]

Thanks for the back and forth 👍

[sweet junco]

So did the land sale happen yet? Hahahah sorry just checking in for the first time in a while

[subtle frost]

Yes it’s over the first 20;000

[sweet junco]

Is there a secondary market?

[subtle frost]

Yup. Illuvidex,

[sweet junco]

Man I really gotta turn notis on hahahha

[subtle frost]

And imx

Immutable x

[subtle frost]

Land sale was last month bro

[sweet junco]

Sheeesh

[subtle frost]

But you are busy making the big bugs

[sweet junco]

I am a busy fella ngl

So I see some lands up for sale

What was mint price?

[subtle frost]

Also tier 5 is still available. We are not done yet. U still have a chance with their 5

[sweet junco]

Oh no way

How do I get in on tier 5

Also thanks for the help fam Fr appreciate the guidance

[subtle frost]

Just some money with a few more zeros at the end

[sweet junco]

Oh yikes how much u think? 😳

[torpid relic]

Wen Illuvium Zero

[wary notch]

This is something I had in mind today, do you have any ideas of how long it will take to manage a plot of land (the illuvium land sale paper says it requires minimal amount of time each day) but Kieran says around 30 minutes (not minimal at all in my view) I've heard this might decrease once the land is fully optimized, but also that worries me for the person renting the land (that he would get evicted as soon as managing the land is easy and fast enough for the owner to do by himself).

[simple edge]

Thats a good question, since theres only 2 being sold right now, I'm guessing something over 100k . What are u guys guessing the 2 T5's go for ?

[sweet junco]

Oh holy smoky

[noble drum]

2mill+

[sweet junco]

Yikes

So they are for sale in usd it seems

Interesting

[simple edge]

Well everything equates to US $

[subtle frost]

Secondary market
Tier 1 0.5 ETH
Tier 2 1.35 ETH
Tier 3 4.50 ETH
Tier 4 17.7 ETH

[sweet junco]

Also can anyone tell me what iluvium tokens utility is

Thinking of buying some

I have silv

[sweet junco]

Wowza

Anyway for me to see the volume on these secondary markets?

[subtle frost]

Get so,e illuvitars with silv LoL
ILV is reddish

I mean revdis

[noble drum]

There were 5 castles in Mirandus (another crypto game being developed by Gala) the last of which sold for a few million. And they are still far from launching that game

[subtle frost]

Revenue distribution

Tier 5 maybe a billion?

Lol

[simple edge]

T4 roughly 20k right now, but T5 having the Arena adds a whole nother level of value

[dry mango]

100% of DAO profits (which includes this game and the next ones) is used to buy ILV from the market and distribute it to the stakers (RevDis) in addition to giving voting power to the council

[sweet junco]

So let’s say theoretically

Your boy has one eth and he loves this project

Where, in your opinion would the eth be best allocated. Ilv, tier 1 land, or wait for the iluvium avatars

[noble drum]

Save up another 0.3 and get a T2

[simple edge]

A basic Homestead plot in Mirandus seems realy expensive to me considering where the game development is at

[sweet junco]

U really think the next tier up is worth it?

[noble drum]

Yea it was a diff time a year ago when they all sold out the land deeds

[noble drum]

Yea the T2 outputs 4x what a T1 does.

T1 is overpriced compared to the other tiers. If you can reach for the T2 over the T1 I would recommend

[dry mango]

it depends on other factors, will he have time to play in the land?, which time window is he thinking?, will this money be missed?, does he think about playing or just investing passively?

The answer to this question varies a lot, there is no one that will fit everyone.

[noble drum]

Well he asked for opinions . So I provided mine 🙂

[sweet junco]

The money will not be missed

[subtle frost]

T2 is best

[sweet junco]

Ideally looking for a passive investment related to the project and ecosystem as a whole

[subtle frost]

for me

if choosing T1 or T2. I would go with T2

[sweet junco]

Pog ty for yo ur opinion fam

[sweet junco]

And land I have to play?

[subtle frost]

T1 is good for blue prints

[dry forge]

ILV is not needed for gameplay in any way. Instead, it has three main functions:

Governance:
Together, we have the power to shape the future of Illuvium through our community collaboration on game improvement proposals and electing the initial model of governance, the Illuvinati Council.

Liquidity Mining:
Here, you will gain more ILV (or sILV). Additional ILV will increase your voting power in governance & increase your share of vault distributions.

Vault Distributions:
When you stake ILV, you share in Illuvium's success and earn a passive income of additional ILV, funded through in-game purchases and fees. Vault distributions will only be available from sales once the game and Illuvidex launch.

[subtle frost]

T2 is good if you want to play and get resources. Blueprints is equally even possibility to get them but not guaranteed to get any. So if you have more T1 you will have more chances of getting a blue print for armer to Mint NFT

[sweet junco]

I’m thinking either t2 land or ilv token

[subtle frost]

I would suck to have so many T1. It is best to just play one T2 and you get a boost of 33% when producing Resources.

oh..

[subtle frost]

For me in my opinion it is best to get land

[sweet junco]

Very fair

[subtle frost]

ILV is also good because if you hold for 10 years

you can get revdis

if you stake it

[sweet junco]

Lol ten years

Very interesting

[dry mango]

if you are looking for a passive return from the ecosystem in general, ILV is the most embracing in terms of profit-sharing.

[subtle frost]

well, I mean right now people are using SILV2 mostly, ILV will decline over time and eventually not a lot of ILV remaining and when everyone uses ETH they will all go back to the ILV stakers

[sweet junco]

Silv2 is something I have rn

[subtle frost]

I guess hold it

[sweet junco]

Ilv declining over time u mean in terms of circulation

[subtle frost]

SILV2 use it for Illuvitars

[sweet junco]

Oh? U mint with silv2

[subtle frost]

for sure it is being changed to SILV2 and being used

[dry mango]

but I recommend that you read about its workings and release schedule before going in, the information is fixed in #💰〕token

[sweet junco]

Thank u

[subtle frost]

Yeah I guess just reading about it helps not financial advice. or else you will be just gambling

[simple edge]

It was interesting Johnny's point earlier, different tier lands could have different uses in your scheme, a T3 would have lots of resource extraction development while on a T1 you could use the real estate to build research facilities and it would be your research hub.

[subtle frost]

everything is just my own opinion. I change up on how I invest based on my own circumstances as well.

[dry mango]

just remembering DM=Scam be careful

[subtle frost]

what is DM

[simple edge]

A savvy player would have a plan for his whole empire, not just each plot seperatly

[subtle frost]

ILV is going down so low holy cow.. sub $100

[sweet junco]

This why I wanna buy

[sweet junco]

Lol direct message

[subtle frost]

Thanks LOL I am NOOB

[sweet junco]

Is the land listen in any market place other than iluvidex like maybe open sea

[sweet junco]

It’s ok me too clearly

[subtle frost]

not open sea

it is only in Immutable X

Token Trove

illuvidex

[sweet junco]

Weird idk what any of these are hahahahah

[subtle frost]

buy from illuvidex it is cheaper by a a little

[sweet junco]

I’ll look around

I just wanna see price history, volume etc

[subtle frost]

oh just to into the Immutable x marketplace

[sweet junco]

Illuvidex doesn’t really show this

[subtle frost]

oh.. yeah TOken TROVE you can see Price History. it is Clunky using them on my mac I don't know why.

it works

[simple edge]

Illuvidex about 2% cheaper

[dry mango]

token trove it has some metrics, but to buy IlluviDEX it has the lowest fees, so you can search there and buy on IlluviDEX (IMX uses a unified market so what varies are the fees)

[wary notch]

More like 1%

[subtle frost]

but if you buy from Illuvidex we can revdis

I really hope Illuvium is a good game for Land, Illuvitars, overworld, and Arena mode

[sweet junco]

Perfect

[subtle frost]

I look forward to collecting those illuvials

[sweet junco]

I have faith

[subtle frost]

maybe hire someone to get them for me if I don't have time.

[dry mango]

anyway, it goes to DAO, what changes is the amount, at IlluviDEX it's cheaper, if it goes to another IMX marketplace, part goes to DAO too but it's less and the fee is higher for the user.

[subtle frost]

yeah well, look at Crypto and stocks in a 5 to 10 year horizon. If any project or company can get through this recession or whatever this is bear market, it can survive anything and will be successful to some extent. That is my opinion

the shit companies will be weeded out between now and 2023

I think Illuvium is doing a good job

IMHO

[subtle frost]

Thanks for clarifying

[sweet junco]

I’m on board with u king

[subtle frost]

Yes loyal servant

[cyan dew]

True

[long tendon]

wen iip to call land borrowers.... "serfs"

[rustic silo]

Hi! didnt check in for last 3 weeks. any news when zero comming out for play?

[slow lily]

When start game illuvium zero?

[empty path]

No

[empty path]

TBA

[rustic silo]

and t5 land sale?

[empty path]

It was in the council notes that they think the market is not ready for it

[rustic silo]

thx for info

[worn scaffold]

ILV Zero can start without the T5 sale right?

[empty path]

I don't see why not. I asked @wind briar to have a talk about it on the next council meeting.

[floral locust]

Smart move, no need to rush those

[open anchor]

We need to start selling some T3 and T4s we dropped from #1 on token trove

[wary notch]

Buying*

[open anchor]

• both, I cleaned up the floor a week ago but it keeps dropping so I guess buying is the better of the two

How is no one talking about the IMX giveaway

Buy now before Thursday!!

[molten cave]

why before thursday? whats going on?

¬¬ wen coming?

[open anchor]

The IMX promotion ends Thursday, supposedly*

6 weeks from June 2nd

Though they haven't provided an update

[empty path]

Promotion?

[open anchor]

https://immutablex.medium.com/special-trading-rewards-for-a-limited-time-only-c0a240aca620

Right now unless alot of trading happens that dilutes the activity theoretically its 10% of activity

Unless I did my math wrong

[molten cave]

but you pay 6%/7% tax, thats not great incentive, you will be diluted by all markets, or just land sales counts here

We will tally your trades made in the Immutable X orderbook during the special event.

I guess ALL trades in all immutable enviroment counts, so 1/2k usd trade there, not too much, fully dilluted in te 2kk pool

[dire pier]

Rakeback is always good

[vapid bough]

Illuvidex v1.2 has deployed

• NFT Transfer functionality within Illuvidex
• Trade Page, ‘Recently Sold’ filter added
• Trade Page, improved filtering
• Improvements to internal API fetching

[molten cave]

a huge improvement will be pack sale, like a megacity sale, but of course you have imagine that and have a space in your mind

[stiff talon]

That's unreal! Well done 🙌

[vapid bough]

Even when it seems quiet, we're still working on improving everything. More updates coming.

[stiff talon]

Really proud of the team and the amazing work you have done. I invested because of the quality of the product and the team! Very excited for the updates that are incoming 😎

[open anchor]

Nice job team!

[rancid lion]

whoa whoa did you submit an IIP before working on these features? (/s if not obvious)
nice work folks

[rancid lion]

yeah basically sounds like they're giving you your trading fees back, maybe. maybe less

[open anchor]

Correct, ending this Thursday, but it also seems like a good project

[floral locust]

Awesome! thanks for the update Lucius

[copper charm]

Hey fellers. Any recent news on when we can start playing our lands?

[dry mango]

not yet, TBA

[thin wolf]

who else has started playing command and conquer again to prepare for ILZ?

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/nobody-got-time-for-that-a-intnobody-got-time-for-that-no-time-for-that-nope-no-gif-10243842

[gusty fractal]

or star craft 2 ^^

[thin wolf]

was a joke,dont want people to think iam a complete idiot(no response needed Fraggy)

[thin wolf]

Loved those games.

[empty path]

[floral locust]

lol what's up gang

[harsh dew]

Nice looking in Halcyon Sea ILZ !

[floral locust]

GEEZ That halcyon sea leak though!

[stiff talon]

That's insane

[noble drum]

glad to have my megaciy here

[harsh dew]

Yeah, it's growing

[shell heart]

Cant wait to play my land there

[harsh acorn]

Interesting Obelisk you stumbled upon

[amber fjord]

The teasing is just

[tulip oriole]

Will ILZ have an integrated scholar function? Any articles on the matter?

[gusty fractal]

will be implemented, but no articles

[floral locust]

I'm not sure anything official has been released on this, but Kieran has mentioned in tweet that it's being looked into

[tulip oriole]

Thanks guys

[noble drum]

does anyone have any gameplay videos other than this one from march? its the only one ive seen. just wondering if there are any more out there
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[floral locust]

I really think that is the last video leak, everything has been screenshots since

[lethal thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/cnft-nft-wen-when-over-exposed-gif-24787226

[tardy fern]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

Is this supposed to be kierran ^

[queen folio]

I actually never thought about it lol. I guess it can be whoever you want it to be in your mind!

[noble drum]

I was hoping it was Chuck Norris

[wary notch]

I've heard we're getting a "mini game" for the IZ Alpha, is this any different than what we get when the release of the Beta or full game?, meaning, will it stop being a "mini game"? I just want to get the feeling of whether we are getting a sort of "Demo" as the Alpha or rather the full IZ minus the updates that will be added like mega cities, renting System, etc...

[amber atlas]

the IZ game was called the mini-game, it is not really mini anymore

the alpha has most of the features of the beta (mega-cities and a few bits and pieces excluded)

its just not connected to the blockchain (in terms of generating value from your Fuel)

[simple edge]

If its not connected to the blockchain how do you keep blueprints ?

[amber atlas]

alpha is version 1.0, blueprints are version 1.1

so your blueprints in the alpha will start out as local

but we will introduce a feature to mint them between alpha and beta

(as per original IIP)

[simple edge]

I see cool thanks for that info

[amber atlas]

(just to be clear we will read your land NFTs in alpha, so it is connected to the blockchain in someways)

[simple edge]

I was wondering that, so there will be a wallet connection and it will be your lands your playing

I'm super stoked to try out land development strategies

[tardy fern]

it looks like kierran though right lol

[harsh acorn]

From what I understand after the Alpha of ILV-0: Our land will be wiped out and start fresh when the Open Beta Launches. It would be nice if we could keep our structures but I understand it will give landowners a head start as well so could be an unfair advantage.

[glad junco]

Yup everything gets wiped.. you get to keep your blue prints though! 🙂 and in open beta well get to keep a tiny amount of our fuels!

[open anchor]

Just street sweeped, now floored t3, t1, and have a mega city 10% over floors. I'm trying to place really high up in IMX sweepstakes. This will last 15 hours.

229408, 230448, 230449, 231449, 231448, 230450

Edit: some have already soldd

[empty path]

What about lending

[open anchor]

Do other projects do this lending concept so I can see how they do it? How does the split work, just fee based? Does it revert back?

[empty path]

Don’t think we have much information about this yet

[random cobalt]

Love to see that

[versed warren]

Wait yall are already collecting

[vague yarrow]

No, they're talking about what will happen once the alpha starts

[tardy fern]

https://tenor.com/view/farm-farming-gif-14334740

we all gonna start hoarding bps

may the odds be in your favour

some people also may not sleep for an entire month

[empty path]

"Web3 game cancelled because too many people died grinding"

[tardy fern]

idk how kieran is gonna manage over 200 plots of land lmao gonna have to start working at illuvium part time

[empty path]

Kieran is gonna let Fraggy take care of that

[tardy fern]

https://tenor.com/view/busy-im-too-spongebob-over-worked-gif-13063974

good luck 😂

[empty path]

I already got a list of quite some people willing to help 😉

[mystic umbra]

The more active I see Johnny in the chat the more my anticipation grows

[thin wolf]

When I was a kid we did this on our knees with buckets for potatoes and rocks.this is high tech right there

[thin wolf]

How will that work?just send the plot to people or will there be a rent system in place during alpha?

[empty path]

No idea if it will be ready during alpha, waiting on a reply from Johnny on that.

[thin wolf]

Feel like Fancy bird is the testing game for a lot of the potential stuff that will be in Iluvium🤔

[empty path]

Wouldn't know about that

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-i-dont-believe-you-smoking-gif-13523062

[vivid wharf]

Man oh man I keep trying to not think about Illuvium 0 so time passes & I get pleasantly suprised with the beta release

But it's hard I tell you! Especially looking at the beautiful leaked images

[empty path]

But then they go teasing us with the leaks 😄

[vivid wharf]

Hahahahah exactly

I also wish the bid feature was implemented on IMX - I need more megacities!

[empty path]

They are working on it afaik but no dates known

[vivid wharf]

Yeah :). My neighbors are not conveniently listing their land!

[empty path]

That would be too easy

[fluid eagle]

Do we know anything about the requirements for ILZ alpha. Who is allowed to take part?

[empty path]

Everybody that has land, that's for sure. Don't know yet if there will be free land in IZ alpha

[fluid eagle]

Thank You

[thin wolf]

I wonder if we are neighbors? mine are also being difficult.

[vivid wharf]

Where are you located? 😄

[radiant sky]

We all have These "difficult" neighbors 😄

[lethal thunder]

Where are you located because I am one of the difficult neighbor 😆

[thin wolf]

the ones i want to build out are both T3 in Crystal shores...

[vivid wharf]

Ah ok, I actually don't have anything in Crystal Shores

[thin wolf]

do you want?special price for you.

[queen folio]

@cyan bone @thorn wren Morning gents! I was hoping we might be able to get confirmation on the uses of the 3 different fuels, as is known today. Info from Johnny in the past shows the uses below... while a recent vid from TSG has the uses swapped around

[winter python]

I’m having issues buying another property on the illuvidex can anyone help? Says I don’t have funds but their is most definitely funds in my MetaMask

[empty path]

Don't trust any DM's. You need your funds on L2 IMX

[winter python]

Ok thanks

[latent kiln]

still now news about the release date for the game??

[flat steeple]

Nope

[empty path]

No ser

[latent kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-tired-sleep-nap-yawn-gif-3552811

[flat steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-anchorman-will-ferrell-gif-11133038

[woven kestrel]

This would be nice to get official confirmation on the changes 👀

[winter python]

Got it don’t thanks for the advice

[mystic umbra]

I’d appreciate it too. Didn’t get any crypton so I’d be fine having my Hyperion be the travel fuel now 😂

[slate merlin]

If the fuel uses in TSG's video are correct, it changes everything we have known all along about fuel in IZ. There has to be someone from the team who can confirm or deny this information. This is a serious consideration for all land holders, especially those who bought on the secondary market based on the fuel's use. It's not like 2 were switched, they are ALL different from before. Please let give us the facts.

[mystic umbra]

Things are subject to change so I don’t care and we were basing the information off of what exactly, a message a dev sent a while back in discord, doesn’t seem concrete to me like those were the official fuel type usages. Either way, if it was incorrect that’s fine, if they did change the fuels, that’s fine too

[slate merlin]

Sorry, I disagree completely. If you buy real estate with a house on it, and then get there to find out the house is gone, you will be angry. At this stage to change the fuel type usage seems completely arbitrary, and why wouldn't there be an official announcement in this channel about it. The use of the fuel types was widely published by content creators before the land sale.

[woven kestrel]

I am surprised everything was changed around when we haven't even gone through the alpha version of the game to test things. BUT, I do absolutely trust the team in their design process. Johnny did say "Loosely" at the beginning of his original message. I figured things could still change, just would be nice to get more official announcements on fuel if everything seems to be changing in what the fuel is gonna be used for.

[mystic umbra]

That analogy is absolutely terrible. They’re not saying any land you bought is now void? They’re not even saying that your fuel doesn’t have a use just that they were switched around, so could you explain your point a bit better

[slate merlin]

I did not buy on the secondary market, but if I paid for a plot with Crypton on it because I want to travel in game, and no Solon because I didn't care about crafting, I would now be out of luck.

[stiff talon]

As a land owner you can't use your fuel in game anyway. You have to sell it to the DAO and rebuy it if you want that fuel in game.

[woven kestrel]

It was never officially announced tho and made to be concrete with what each fuel would be utilized for. There was nothing set in stone yet. Part of the risk of being this early. However, I am surprised again that they changed it all

[mystic umbra]

Well, you bought based off of an unofficial announcement then. It was never directly stated by the illuvium team anywhere officially, no discord chat does not count, so you guys can feel mislead by other people in the community but to my knowledge any and all things are subject to changes in this space

[floral locust]

@fathom ridge Look what you've done to our beautiful IZ chat!!!

BAN HIM!

[slate merlin]

True enough, but the consensus of Illuvium YouTube content creators was that travel would be the most important demand and that's why Crypton was most valued.

[stiff talon]

Sure but again that's based off of no facts. We don't know what will be the most valued. The game isn't out so everything is speculation and if anything whatever fuel you have. Use that eth to buy the fuel you want after it's sold to the DAO. Whether it was a mistake by @fathom ridge or this has changed. I really don't see it making a difference.

[woven kestrel]

Doesn't seem to be a mistake since he got his information directly from khaled and nick. I just kind of would like to hear confirmation from Johnny as well since he seems to have been the main source of information regarding fuel and also was the original one to post about their potential uses.

It's also where I got my original information from was Johnny's original post lol this is the exact reason I made sure to say that it was all subject to change in my video 😆

[stiff talon]

I guess if you look at the words Crypton Gate - sounds more like a travel type of building... I could be wrong and curing shards from something like looks like a crystal or Hyperion makes sense to me.

[stiff talon]

Fair

[woven kestrel]

I agree, I liked the original rundown of what they set for the fuels. I'm curious to know the decisions behind the complete overhaul

[fathom ridge]

hahahahah fuck me

I was excited to share the updated info with everyone

[still vine]

https://tenor.com/view/not-the-bees-soran-dussaigne-comfortable-get-away-from-me-it-stings-gif-16475639

[fathom ridge]

hahahah this shit going wild! 😛

[stiff talon]

Most likely that Solon seemed better for the new capture system utilizing that sticky substance as opposed to a shard or crystal. That's my only guess. They want the fuels to make sense.

[woven kestrel]

As soon as I saw how much they changed everything around I knew this would probably happen lol

[stiff talon]

Fair so it is confirmed

[fathom ridge]

The devs I chatted to are also double checking the info now.

[stiff talon]

Regardless I don't think it makes a difference. If you could keep your fuel instead of having to sell and rebuy. I think that would be more of a problem.

[woven kestrel]

I don't doubt the credibility, just want to really get an official confirmation that this is the direction they are heading in considering we may be diving into the alpha state of ILVZ fairly "soon" lol

Curious to know the thought process behind the changes as well

[harsh acorn]

From medium Land article

Claims fuel is equal rarity which means one fuel type should not be substantially worth more than another

[stiff talon]

That's why it doesn't make a difference. If you could keep the fuel and use it yourself. Then I'd say it's a problem. But you can't...

[still vine]

But it’s not really based on rarity is it, it will be based on consumption which will change market conditions and therefore price of the specific fuel. People betting on if there will be a higher demand for travel vs crafting etc.

Don’t really care personally because I do believe it will all even out, just pointing out what would cause ppl to buy a land with one fuel over another

[harsh acorn]

Yes and the team will adjust the fuel economy if there is a major imbalance in the system

[still vine]

Well yeah, that’s true with every aspect of every game the team creates

[gusty fractal]

+25% on Crypton and -25% on Solon is possible at the same time no?

[harsh acorn]

Yes it will be about timing the market if you wish to get the most ROI

[gusty fractal]

so the crypton Lands Buyers have bought speculating on that

[harsh acorn]

At first the travel fuel will be most desirable and then shards and then crafting imho. It will be interesting to see the economy unfold

[open anchor]

What whale just crushed crimson waste???? Well done sir/madam

[gusty fractal]

i think : one travel(crypton)....but several shards(hyperion)....

[wary notch]

0x82c.....ad3d

It's got 19 land plots now

6 T4s

1 T3

4 T2s

8 T1s

[stiff talon]

Wow

[open anchor]

👏👏👏👏

0x82c.....ad3d. I have some small fish plots that I'm trying to make the IMX leaderboard if you want to street sweep! I promise to turn around and street someone else in return!

229408, 230448, 230449, 231449, 231448, 230450

All goes to our 5% share anyway

[open anchor]

The whale is listening! One was just bought!

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/dev-do-something-gif-23769887

[weak crown]

Bot?

[floral locust]

That's exactly what a bot would say

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[harsh acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-playing-spinning-hamster-wheel-youre-in-my-way-gif-16022252

Put mor hamsters on the wheel devs

[lost drift]

what are the fees for illuvidex trading and token trove trading?

[harsh acorn]

my understanding illuvidex would be 2% less. The price you see on Tokentrove includes the fees though.

[lost drift]

ok thanks

[empty path]

How can we be sure

https://tenor.com/view/i-accept-catherine-ohara-moira-moira-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20775836

[sage inlet]

What? Did you just ask me how to forceably rebuilt the asset bundles during Jenkins-based continous-integration?

You didn't?

Damn... I was kinda in that groove.

Anyway - we have that issue solved 👍

[mystic umbra]

What does this mean

[sage inlet]

Game better.

[floral locust]

Game better is good better

[mystic umbra]

I agree, game better, good. I still just don’t know what that means

[little moon]

Game better sooner is double good better

[sage inlet]

In all honesty it means what is says - but from a non-dev standpoint, it means we can deliver a smaller game 'package' with only what you need / what you use.

[mystic umbra]

I see. I see. So good for an alpha

[sage inlet]

We are working on it so hard. We really are.

[little moon]

New textrues are taking a toll on the machines eh?

Or does it just save space?

[sage inlet]

There's 7 regions - so that's a lot of textures. Each region has seperate building textures + background + foliage

[floral locust]

We trust it will come when ready

[woven kestrel]

No doubt the team is a freakin machine loving the recent leaks for ILVZ, they have been incredible

[sage inlet]

The new artwork coming in looks fantastic.

[stiff talon]

So excited to see Shardbluff Labyrinth 😁

[mystic umbra]

Will the textures of the land be the same for each plot or will it look diifferent. In terms of like the trees and such not the element placements on the plot

[woven kestrel]

Can't wait to see more! Are you able to comment at all on the posts further up regarding the changes to fuel?

[sage inlet]

The background textures for each region will be the same. Folliage scattering is currently random (aesthetic only). Obstacle scattering is still change-able because we're pre-alpha - there are currently goals around clearing obstacles. Obstacles may respawn, over time.

'Obstacles' are just big plants - they're not going to be a nuisance, but you can't build with them overlapping. Easy to clear + gives you XP.

Likely to respawn - easy farming

[thin wolf]

Xp as in leveling up your ranger ingame?

[sage inlet]

It will increase your Xp, yes

[thin wolf]

To level up your ranger?😬
Does your level act as a requirement to do certain tasks later?

[little moon]

Probably xp for your G4udi

[thin wolf]

Ahh leveling up in Ilz not overworld, though I was I general😅

[stiff talon]

Sounds like clash of clans

[woven kestrel]

Will we have a set number of "builders" or ways to unlock more "builders" similar to CoC? Like will there be a limit (permitting that we have the resources) to how many things we can build at one time?

[sage inlet]

Good question! There will be a limited amount of builders.

Only a single builder will be available at start, so you can only build one structure at a time

[slate merlin]

If you are not to person to address the fuel change information, could you tell us who the right person would be to answer that question?

[sage inlet]

Not to, Brutus?

Aaanyway - sorry, what?

I think my work here is complete. Best wishes and I look forward to coming back and chewing the fat with y'all soon.

[floral locust]

Thanks!

[stiff talon]

Thanks dude!

[thin wolf]

Appreciate you taking the time to talk with us.have a good one

[woven kestrel]

Appreciate it! Thanks Al!

[sacred fulcrum]

Hey guys I was wondering, I get you don´t get to sell your stuff until the beta comes out, but do you keep to get your progress on your land or does it reset?

[harsh acorn]

The Jenkins based system for all the smooth brains like myself; It is essentially a testnet that allows developers to test software in bits and pieces before it is pushed to the main game. At least that's what I understand.

[timber sapphire]

It resets and you can sell blueprints that you find or keep them

[sacred fulcrum]

Thx!

[little moon]

I put this on #🛒〕land-dex , just in case anyone is looking for a t2 crystal shores with all element and fuel sites (and it also sits besides a t3, so you can set a better price in the future if this land owner decides to make a megacity; it is the cheapest in its category [at 1.74 eth and then 2.94 eth as the next floor]): https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0x9e0d99b864e1ac12565125c5a82b59adea5a09cd/22770

[severe oracle]

I think it is basically that. Jenkins in my experience is a tool used for triggering deployments (sounds like CI/CD in this case). A developer will push their work on a 'branch' and when ready, deploy to 'master' on a dev test environment where all the game features are tested against each other. So my understanding is that they are working only developing and deploying the features needed to get alpha done soonest.

I am far from an expert though so take with a pinch of salt 🙂

the continuous deployment pipeline doesn't technical have anything to do with the scope of the development itself though...

[open anchor]

What a fun day to be an illuvium member, someone just cleaned me out. So I'm about to do the same, get your floors out there, I'm about to do some sweeping

Let's all make IMX and fees together

[maiden wasp]

Whats the word on land play?

Feel asleep at the wheel

[floral locust]

Nothing announced yet, I think we will get an idea of it's status with this months dev blog

[dusty agate]

Same for all tiers?

[mystic umbra]

Dev blog should hopefully be juicy

[floral locust]

hope so, I'm hungry 🙂

[glad junco]

When is dev blog coming?

[floral locust]

The last dev blog aaron did was on the 16th, so maybe similar time this month? could be a little later if he's super busy

[glad junco]

Thanks brov!!

[floral locust]

anytime 👍🏿

[amber atlas]

XP is not connected to your ranger, there is a XP/leveling system inside of IZ

[slate merlin]

Hi Johnny, can you speak to the fuel use changes that were in TSG's video this morning?

[harsh acorn]

Is it true that crypton is still for travel, Solon for crafting and hyperion for shards? That's what was different in his video.

[amber atlas]

I think there was a diagram created internally that had some different values, so some wires got crossed

technically I don't own this decision, Aaron does, so give me some time and I'll get a definitive answer

[slate merlin]

Thanks so much for tracking it down, the video dropped about 9 hours ago, so no one on the team was online to confirm or deny the changes.

[mystic umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/hitmans-bodyguard-hitmans-bodyguard-gi-fs-samuel-l-jackson-time-tick-tock-gif-8352665

[amber atlas]

😒

won't be long

[mystic umbra]

Only teasing ❤️

[left musk]

Why land is buying in so much volume is there a imx Event?

[amber atlas]

Hi all,

just wanted to clarify the use of Fuels is as per the values I have mentioned many times in IZ channel, inline with the only information known to you before the land sale. Specifically:

**Hyperion **- for shard related activities.
**Solon **- for crafting/forging related activities.
**Crypton **- for travel related activities.

We (and lets be clear that really that means me) failed to update our glossary document with these details, and that led to the sharing of some incorrect values.

Sorry for the confusion, we have updating internal docs already and will ensure everyone internally is clear on the use of each Fuel.

Cheers (and apologies),
Johnny

[slate merlin]

Thanks so much for the clarification Johnny, you're the best!

[amber atlas]

... also it should be noted that the balance goal of the game is to ensure there is an equal amount of demand for each fuel, and we will address this balance with game mechanics, although it is your right to speculate on which Fuel will be more valuable at a given time, in the long term they should all be equally valuable

[harsh acorn]

@fathom ridge

[fathom ridge]

Alright guys, I’ll redo this video tonight!

[fathom ridge]

Thanks for the clarification Johnny!

[amber atlas]

sorry for the hassle 😦

[woven kestrel]

Thanks for clarifying Johnny!

[harsh acorn]

Don't be sorry. You guys are doing amazing work. 👏

[fathom ridge]

Oh Johnny I sent you a friend request, any chance I could DM to clarify one other thing about elements before I butcher the updated video with incorrect info again! 😭😜

[slate merlin]

No worries, I’m sorry too for stirring the pot earlier today.

[whole spear]

Thanks Johnny

[fathom ridge]

I’ll ask here publicly too!
Was the information about elements correct?

Regarding them not have specific uses but potentially requiring more than 1 element to complete buildings and utilising them as to keep the economy of the game more balanced?

[fickle ore]

Good to see your name in here @amber atlas feels like it’s been a while. Hope you are well.

[whole spear]

[cyan bone]

Just reviewed also, very close.

[harsh acorn]

That obelisk has an odd curvature to it ser

https://tenor.com/view/hump-day-happy-camel-gif-16822769

[whole spear]

I read it

its good

[fathom ridge]

Alright guys I took the last video down, I’ll do another video today about something else and rework this and get this up this weekend!
Apologise for all the chaos it caused hahaha

[cyan bone]

Uplifted Main UIs being worked on in Unity.
Sharing with the intention of giving everyone a feel for the Camera view, uplifted assets, uplifted UIs
WIP

Thoughts on UI scaling on desktop and tablet?

[whole spear]

Very nice looking

[fathom ridge]

I might have to buy a tablet just to play it on that hahaha

[floral locust]

I was wondering about tablet compatibility

looks sick btw lol

[harsh acorn]

Looks awesome! is there pinch to zoom in and out?

[fathom ridge]

Just my opinion, but shouldn’t the UI be slightly bigger on tablet / desktop? Seems like too much space between

[harsh acorn]

The UI elements looks great as well

[fathom ridge]

I could be wrong as I’m sure you guys have you references. Just saying what I immediately felt

[cyan bone]

This is the kind of feedback I'm keen to hear. I love minimal UI and plenty of vision of the city, but we should hear what everyone thinks

[cyan bone]

yes

[fathom ridge]

I completely agree and I hate it cluttered too.

That image just seems to leave “too much” space imo

[harsh acorn]

I like how the icons/stats are semi-translucent

[fathom ridge]

But yea keen to see what others say, if anything

[cyan bone]

Nice, okay will take that feedback to the team and have a think

[harsh acorn]

It would be awesome to have a hide ui option for screenshots.

[floral locust]

good idea, such a gorgeous map

[wary notch]

Personally I like it the way it looks now, we may not be thinking that view is desktop, so while the buttons might need to be bigger on phone for you to see and tap on, keeping them big on desktop might just take unnecessary space that is better filled with the land itself

[nimble lichen]

How's the portrait view?

[fathom ridge]

This is my opinion only. I really like the CIV 6 UI. IZ won’t be as deep so it doesn’t need to be as cluttered BUT I think the use of space is really good. They don’t leave a too much space between things. Even the use of the blue bar at the top is a nice touch to just slightly fill up the space so it doesn’t feel empty.

But yea these are just opinions and feelings haha

[nimble lichen]

I like the space.. lets you swipe and explore your plot of land

Similar to Exominer

[little moon]

I would put all the stuff at the top in a hard bar aligned left so it has a background because the opacity makes it hard to see your essential info. I think the scale is fine, just maybe make them a little easier to see.

[umbral hull]

I like it, but I tend to like small UI

[cyan bone]

Confirming captured - Love this, as the type of guy who uses the Ctrl-Z in WoW to take the occasional character pic..

[harsh acorn]

With how beautiful the artwork is in the game it will be awesome to take screenshots to flex your land and share on social media. It would be cool to just have your Illuvitar icon and hide the other UI elements so you can flex your land with your illuvitar!

[mystic umbra]

God I used to love civ 6

[fathom ridge]

I still do hahah

[mystic umbra]

Literally could play for hours just listening to the different music themes

[crystal locust]

perhaps scalable UI for those who think its to small.

and in the future customizable locations on the screen where you can drag menu items from a main menu's. Similar to macros or shortcuts for those who want to expand on the minimalist UI, and that's only if there is plenty of sub menu items to surface, otherwise there is no point of this idea.

[random cobalt]

Love this thought. Especially if there are special overlays that we will be able to toggle

[willow otter]

Question.../ dilema
Say i play the alfa and develop my land ... no earning i know but will my land remain developed for open beta and if yes wont that be dissadvsntage for non alfa players .. and if no wont that be unjust for all the alfa players spending all that time..

[empty path]

No, it gets wiped but you can keep the blueprints

[willow otter]

Ok nice

[gilded goblet]

How to find blueprints and need some fuel or something else?

[empty path]

You'll need to build a scanner on your land plot

[gilded goblet]

For build a scanner I need some element - but tier1 plot have only 2 element! How to receive other element? Blueprint - what is it and for what? For capture illuvials I need only Hyperion? Can I travel on my region without crypton?

[empty path]

You can swap them over. Travel is for Illuvium overworld, not the city builder

[gilded goblet]

I don’t understand! I want build my plot and capture illuvials and find blueprints!) blueprint - this is equipment? Capture illuvials - Need only Hyperion?
And travel(crypton) for what?

[empty path]

You can't capture Illuvials on land, these are 2 different games. Blueprints are for skins

[fair temple]

In the overworld you will have to go to an area with a teleportation device to find resources and illuvials. (You Travel towards a region which costs Crypton)
The illuvials are super cool, so to be fully immersed in your team you have the option to make skins.
The prerequisite here is that you get a blueprint. You need to know hów to make the skin before you can craft it. (Blueprints are found in Illuvium zero, and the crafting process costs Solon)
When you try to craft a skin you will notice that you need an illuvial to be sacrificed for it. Before you can do that you need to catch it in the wild with a shard. (Hyperion is used to cure shards and make them ready for catching.)

[gilded goblet]

How to Capture illuvials? And what about travel? Blueprints - only skins, not equipment?

Thank you for helping. Very interesting 🧐

[fair temple]

https://youtu.be/dBauS88rZAo
(Illuvium overworld gameplay footage)
Check out this video. After a battle, if you successfully kill the enemies you would go into the capture phase, but that has not been added to the video yet.

[gilded goblet]

But if I want capture illuvials - need crypton for travel and Hyperion for catching ?

[fair temple]

A land supplies the main game, the overworld, with fuel for progressing.
So if you buy a land, you invest into playing the game for less money as long as you play Illuvium Zero.

[gilded goblet]

How I will receive my crypton on tier1 - need some build or what? I check video soon

[fair temple]

Yes you buy a land, play the game, build your production buildings and you will get some fuel.

[lusty breach]

I am happy with the size of the UI, don't think you should cover the screen too much.

[polar cosmos]

i have a lot of lands, give me this game now, im bored of market condition

[noble drum]

Is there a dex anywhere on imx or anywhere I can swap usdc for eth or do I have to bring my tokens back out the ETH network to swap them? I wanted to buy some more land but need to swap some usdc

[worn scaffold]

Immutaswap I guess

[thin wolf]

Have you used it?

[worn scaffold]

Nope

[thin wolf]

@noble drum let me know when you have used it😬

[noble drum]

Quick look at says 5% fee. I’ll pass. I’ll pay the gas to get back to layer 1. 🤪

[thin wolf]

That's a bit steep, need more competition.

[compact nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/bubthebandit-wen-wen-mint-gif-23852820

[cyan dew]

Wen? Idk xD

[woven kestrel]

The UI is clean 👌 love that it isn't cluttered at all

Imo keep the UI minimal for sure, allows you to appreciate more of the scenery on your land and allows you to play the game and have it not feel cluttered

[thin wolf]

Ui looks good, just release😬

[timber sapphire]

Kinda weird that there is still no announcement on this. Not even that it is delayed

[vapid bough]

Dev blog is coming soon. Better to provide project wide updates in dev blog, rather than individual product updates as announcement.

[thin wolf]

😂Soon has lost all meaning😂

[vapid bough]

Thanks to @empty path it's actually sooner

[thin wolf]

How so?

[empty path]

Told Aaron if he doesn’t release it soon he better skip a month so he started writing on it

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-care-bear-threatening-intensive-care-bear-gif-4055068

[empty path]

I’m gonna leave for few hours. My old eyes are having trouble reading the screen.

[thin wolf]

Iam@going to regret this, but how old are you?

[timber sapphire]

So buy glasses

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-shit-duck-for-cover-duck-oh-crap-baby-yoda-mandalorian-gif-19513478

[timber sapphire]

You should rephrase it to how young are you

[thin wolf]

I sense the wisdom of an 80year you and the spirit of an 20 year😬

[vapid bough]

https://tenor.com/view/theodoros-gif-18371963

[thin wolf]

Ok, back to normal.
Wen ILZ?

[floral locust]

You da best fraggy

[icy thicket]

ANOTHER DAY CLOSER TO THE ILV ZERO BETA LAUNCH!! LFG 🔥
(Beta Launch Date = TBD lol)

[wary notch]

Does anyone know when the IMX trading rewards stop counting?

I think it was today, was it not?

[thorn quail]

I want to purchase some land but im hoping I can get higher tiers later this month

[floral locust]

Nice something to look forward too 🙂

[thorn quail]

of course although im still sketchy on understanding how to structure the land but I feel ill learn better as I play

[floral locust]

Don't worry we all are in the same boat until we are playing alpha. The best you can do right now is check out the buildings and what you may want to start building first. infoluvial and illuvialmaster have a section on IZ buildings

[winged ferry]

cant wait to play 🙂

[floral locust]

saameeeee

[subtle frost]

that button is going to break.

[floral locust]

Yes that button breaks team spirit lol

[subtle frost]

Wow SOME LAND. - NOT A Piece of LAND but SOME

[subtle frost]

I am surprise how yellow button hold up so well after al this smashing.

[thorn quail]

o gawd here comes the karen of the illuvium channel ......ma'am my supervisor is not in right now ill tell him you stopped by

[kindred kettle]

haven't been around in this channel lately, has the offer feature been added to IMX/Illuvidex?

Also it would be nice if all land holder gets access to the private beta as we obviously are very interested/invested in the project

[subtle frost]

I need to speak to your manager I am not a Karen I am Darren

[floral locust]

Confirmed that it's being worked on by IMX, then however long it takes illuvidex or tokentrove to implement it

[timber sapphire]

You arent even ranger... Very invested😂

[vapid bough]

5000 more people are being added to beta now per latest announcement.

[kindred kettle]

I bought lands coz I believe in the project and wanted to play the game, thus my interest to be in the private beta. Please tell me how being active in discord directly translate to being more invested than having staked in the pool and purchased multiple lands

[vapid bough]

All are valuable. The reason to select active people is because the majority of land owners/investors are active anyways. In order to reward specifically to Land Owners, we would need to create a verification channel, use something like collabland (which would need to first pass our security checks), provide educational info for people to use it an verify... etc. Very cumbersome process. The goal is to expand to 20k even to include everyone like yourself that has invested in the project in one way or another. We want to be as inclusive as possible to those that support Illuvium.

[umbral hull]

dont worry, you're fine man. no one's gonna gatekeep you 🙂

[kindred kettle]

Sorry if I still respect others by not just randomly spam the channels only to advance my rank in discord, thus my previous suggestion and trying to actually ask real questions relevant to the topic in the respective channels.

[kindred kettle]

thank you for the reply and explanation, much appreciated

[vapid bough]

It's all good 🙂

[shrewd nova]

I bought a handful of plots, when can I get into beta? I'm not very active on social media just because it's not my thing but I've bought land and ILV and haven't been able to play any of the games yet...doesn't feel good you know

I'd honestly even consider buying more land, ILV and maybe even illuvitars if I had the chance to play especially overworld beta

[vapid bough]

We're constantly looking for ways to include our community and those that support us. This round of 5000 is to Rangers, Survivors and Twitter Raider's roles. The latest list is pinned in #💬〕general

[shrewd nova]

I saw, I'm not on it :/

[timber sapphire]

I mean you do look interested but we get a ton of those people messages that everyday with people making fake accounts and asking for beta. Ranger isnt that hard to get so if you actually asked some questions about the project here you woudve already had it thats why i reacted that way

[shrewd nova]

I'm not just going to ask questions just to ask, I participate when I feel like there's something warranted or to ask wen lol. I even tried the trivia night but no luck there. I spent thousands, usually in games if you did that youd get special beta and alot of stuff and it doesn't feel good that after paying all that I have to constantly be a cheerleader for a game to get access to beta when I haven't even played it

[deep granite]

Tajir, next trivia night ill win a point for you and give you the beta access 🙂

they give em out like candy during Trivia night

[shrewd nova]

I'll love you so much for that! Lol

[timber sapphire]

If you woudve asked beforehand you could've known that😂

[shrewd nova]

Asked what

[timber sapphire]

But gl man you will get in next time dont worry

[timber sapphire]

If you get beta if you invest

[deep granite]

I was in the same boat. Dying inside not being able to play. And then I found out trivia is an easy way to get access 😌

[shrewd nova]

No I knew that, but still I signed up over a year ago and it seems like only active people on discord get it. I'm commenting on the process

[deep granite]

I feel that, I was registered on the website since mid 2021 and never got anything. I got frustrated and complained on here. And then literally same day I hopped into the trivia vc and got access 😛

[timber sapphire]

Tbh probably after this discussion you are almost ranger.

[shrewd nova]

I hope so lol

[deep granite]

Yeah, talk in the Discord channels a bit and get some rank too. But honestly - trivia is fastest/easiest

[timber sapphire]

You can check in #👑〕bot-commands

[shrewd nova]

If you get me one that would be amazing man!

[timber sapphire]

Yeah trivia is fine too, i heard it was pretty hard tho haven't participated in one yet

[shrewd nova]

Level 5

What's that?

[deep granite]

Will do, screenshotted so i can submit your name if I get more points

[timber sapphire]

Ranger rank

[shrewd nova]

Nice lol

[timber sapphire]

See now you are ranger

[deep granite]

See you’re already 10 times closer to getting in than you were earlier today 😬

[timber sapphire]

More chance for next beta round. Pretty easy with a tiny conversation

[shrewd nova]

Hopefully soon!

[hollow shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/leak-viralhog-water-leaking-poke-gif-17947681

Any? ^^^

[little moon]

Looks like scrotum.

[hollow shoal]

Leaks good lord

See now I can’t un see that

[timber sapphire]

Who openend another stranger things portal?

[floral locust]

the amount of mold behind that wallpaper...

[glad junco]

Is there a Roles channel or faq where we can look up how to earn certain roles?

[shell rose]

In discord? Just by participating. You can go to #👑〕bot-commands and type !rank to see your rank.

[glad junco]

Ohh thanks homie! Much love mr 🪨

[shrewd flax]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[flat herald]

Hi there! I'm looking to get my hands on a tier 1 land to be part of this journey. I did find some useful information here and there but nothing about the advantages of location inside a speficic region. Is there any or any tier 1 land in crystal shores for example will have the same advantages?

[waxen kiln]

What is trivia vc?

[deep granite]

What is trivia vc?
@waxen kiln trivia voice chat
The voice-chat channel on this discord hosts a trivia night , once per week I THINK

If you get 1 question right, you get Beta access

[waxen kiln]

Depends a bit on what type of illuvials you want to catch. Every region has different 'drop' chances. Check the pinned messages for overview

[waxen kiln]

Ah cool, will check it out

[deep granite]

Hi there! I'm looking to get my hands on a tier 1 land to be part of this journey. I did find some useful information here and there but nothing about the advantages of location inside a speficic region. Is there any or any tier 1 land in crystal shores for example will have the same advantages?
@flat herald the main things to think about are…
-location
-fuel sites
-element sites
-location of sites

No one knows which fuel will be worth the most yet. IMO a good T1 land will have 1 of each element site to be efficient. Also not sure how the spacing between sites effect value or efficiency. Location is going to help you find specific blueprints for illuvial skins in that region, so that might be up to what you like. Lots of unknowns still.

[flat herald]

Ok thanks! I noticed that lands near the sea in the Halcyon Sea region are more expensive on the secondary market than lands a little futher (but still in the Halcyon region) At that point it is speculation that those lands will have some kind of extra chances to catch specific blueprint I guess. Do I understand correctly?

[deep granite]

Ok thanks! I noticed that lands near the sea in the Halcyon Sea region are more expensive on the secondary market than lands a little futher (but still in the Halcyon region) At that point it is speculation that those lands will have some kind of extra chances to catch specific blueprint I guess. Do I understand correctly?
@flat herald Its speculation. Maybe in the future there could be a difference owning land by the sea or not. Maybe just the subliminal fact of owning a piece by the sea increases the value. Look out for mega cities though, people that secure a large area will definitely be able to sell that land for more than others

[flat herald]

Ok got it thanks a lot!

[glad junco]

Agreed with @deep granite .. also if you don’t already, make sure to use both Tokentrove and the illuvidex. It’s easier to see what’s for sale with tokentrove but when you find one you want to check out it’s good to use illuvidex to see who owns the plots around. if you’re lucky you’ll snipe a plot that’s part of mega city. Those aren’t as common anymore but there are gems so stay vigilant and patient.

[flat herald]

Yeah i'll look into that but I doubt i'll have the budget for those gem. I only can afford a 0.6 ETH land or so. So i'll try to make the better choice with that amount :)

[dusty agate]

Its not about sea, think pricing is individual, but some lands cost more as they maybe needed for someone to build megacity

[flat herald]

Youre right theres that too.
I forgot megacity are 2x2 or bigger?

[dusty agate]

3x3 and i know someone bought 4x4 in case if it will be allowed in the future

[waxen kiln]

Expensive hobby

[flat herald]

Wow 4x4! expensive hobby indeed

[floral locust]

2x2 and 3x3 are the only confirmed sizer for now

[rustic drum]

They will but in the future hihi

[amber atlas]

"No one knows which fuel will be worth the most yet." -> in the macro level no fuel will be 'worth the most', they will fluctuate as new game features come in (if a new feature that is super cool needs lots of Solon then Solon probably rockets up for a while), this micro level economics should be quite fun and profitable, but in the long term game changes will come out to keep the Fuel demand balanced

[jagged brook]

‘rockets up’ + ‘fun and profitable’ good enough for me lol

[amber atlas]

lol

this is not financial advice 😛

[flat herald]

Makes the game more fun!

[lost drift]

bidding on illuvidex or tokentrove world raise the trading volume immensely, looking forward for it

[lost drift]

megacities have to be 3x3 or bigger? cant be 2x2?

[open grove]

are we weeks or months away from zero? Haven’t been keeping up

[floral locust]

Nothing announced yet, stay tuned to #📣〕announcements for this months dev blog, we should get a status update

[wary notch]

Sounds like good enough non financial advise for me to buy another land

[wary notch]

I'll DM you a short question if you are able to see it

[wary notch]

Couldn't do it, you're not accepting friend request, is there a way to DM you?

[amber atlas]

I don't accept DMs, scamming aside, I also don't think its very fair to answer question privately for one person as that may give them some advantage

(I understand your specific questions may not fall in to that category but it is a blanket rule)

[versed warren]

How do you make blueprints & what are they exactly?

[wary notch]

It's fine, I'll ask here.
I have bought a little over 150 plots of land so far, do you happen to have any ideas now of how many daily hours of gameplay that adds up to be (on average)?

The medium article for the land sale says:
"Managing your Land is fun and requires a minimal amount of time each day to extract the most value."

Kieran gave and estimated 20 - 30 minutes.

So I'm a little confused here, and it is quite important for me to start getting ready with time.

[amber atlas]

there's not a simple answer to that question, it takes a more time while building up a plot than vs maintaining a plot

there is also a lot of smaller optimisations to be gained by playing more frequently

also the very early game (first few sessions) is lots of clicking and interacting

---

here are some general guidlines:

• I would say once established (an excluding new features/upgrades) you can probably play each land for just a minute or two each day
  (this will NOT be optimal play, but should be somewhere around 95% of optimal)

• when getting established, if you have a really clear plan, you probably will need to spend 5-10 minutes or so per per plot

• for the first session or two of play you will need to go through tutorials which unlock a bunch of features and resources... this will be more like 30-minutes per land

basically it should be fine in the end game, but will likely be a pain early on