🎮〕illuvium-zero

[thorny crater]

Thank you!

@harsh dew thank you as well but I want to filter by certain aspects and see the soles

[tired bear]

Hi

[severe oracle]

hallo!

[harsh acorn]

They are upgrading all of the artwork. Which means they want to give a great first impression knowing that people will be streaming for the whole world to see.

[oak ruin]

My city on shardbluff lab. will look awesome. That black surface will contrast with the buildings

[vivid cipher]

I’m fairly certain it’s pinned in here. But maybe not I guess. Johnny would have shared it several months ago.
I don’t know why it would not be ready to go in alpha.

[steep shale]

i did hear that you will be able to convert resources, there's a video on youtube that briefly mentions this. Video was released prior to the land sale

[vivid cipher]

Yup. Conversions been in the plan since way least September. #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[undone phoenix]

Why are we crying over this?

[lost cairn]

Fr

[undone phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-riddles-puzzles-gif-23907978

[zealous plank]

Maybe cuz someone didn't buy the land? Sherlock?

[eager elk]

Agreed just suggesting an idea

Yeah

[undone phoenix]

Don’t think that’s it. But ok

[lucid goblet]

gn

[half turtle]

OK so you believe transferring assets between your plots will be available in the alpha, cool! I've seen fuel converters, but Im still not able to find any information (in the pins) about converting elements to other elements? Im aware this can be done to produce fuel, but iv not seen anything about resources

[severe oracle]

Yes, I've been hunting for the same information. My gut feeling is that you'll be able to trade elements on the market for other elements i.e. I'm guessing there wont be a mechanism to associate elements and fuel (asides from improving buildings with elements that generate fuel). Just because it sounds inflationary once we've finished building the cities... might be wrong here...

I'm particularly invested in knowing because I have a T3 and three T1s in a 2x2 and with maximised element production with such a mega city, it is the main incentive. If I had a T4 it would be clear with the boost to fuel production, but maximising element production feels like a short/mid-term interest when building up your lands... at least at the moment.

[mystic umbra]

I just want to see the art for shardbluff plots

[severe oracle]

Nonetheless, excited to see what the future will bring with IZ!

[zealous plank]

Lmao, that's literally the only explanation

[thin wolf]

Anyone know if Scoriox shared the spreadsheet with the potential earnings for land?

[undone phoenix]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14kHkf1pzmbhcv9r3TktOymAJvG01VhWyj8z851DTYoc/htmlview

You can also find it on his video on YT about it

[thin wolf]

I ment the Revenue from land,he did a video a week or so ago which covered all the Tiera of land.

[undone phoenix]

Oh. For revenue distribution?

[thin wolf]

For Fuel revenue,he used Fortnite and other games to simulate potential monthley spending ingame

[undone phoenix]

Oh. Sorry, haven’t seen that link.

[thin wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Wq1Go3W-k

Sheet looks like this.

[undone phoenix]

Yeah. Think I saw this in multiple videos, but just tried looking in comments and video descriptions of old videos, and couldn’t find anything. Might wanna go to the man directly

[rare ember]

Tell me please, how many resources will the scanner spend on finding blueprints?

[thin wolf]

@high sleet hey,Have you shared the above spreadsheet?

[near berry]

Do the plots of a 2x2 megacity need to be a square or is the order not important and the main thing is they are connected to each other? So e.g. could be also in a line?

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/square-face-sad-face-stare-gif-14220076

[near berry]

Alright, I guess that means in a square 😄

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-farley-that-is-correct-gif-24372113

Sorry for the Gifs:=) Square is the current format unless an IIp changes it.

[pearl lily]

when can we start building our land?

[near berry]

No problem, I like gifs - and chubby, hairy men 😄

Thanks for the answer 👍

[timber sapphire]

How else do you make a 2x2 lol

[near berry]

That's what I thought too, after I posted it 😄

[severe oracle]

If i'm a land holder, is there value to being in a guild?

[thorny crater]

Is there a video on this? I would like to recreate in my own way

[timber sapphire]

Depends on the guild i guess

[opal thistle]

Imposible to know until the alpha is out (unless a one of the devs leaks that now 👀)

[tardy fern]

Because I wanted to load up on more cheap t1s haha

Gonna try pump out bps

[near berry]

A T3 sold for 15.75, another one for 11 and someone is buliding a T3, T3, T3, T4 Megacity. 👀
https://twitter.com/Illuvium_lands/status/1538611986438791175?cxt=HHwWjoC9reTcn9oqAAAA

Illuvium Lands Bot ♊️ (@Illuvium_lands)

🪸🪸🪸 Crystal Shores (762,517) was just purchased for 15.75ETH (~$17370.0)

🫅 Buyer: 0xef5d..7f5c
📜 Lands Owned: 42
🧹 Tier 3 Floor: 4.305 ETH

https://t.co/pOih286GaA

#illuvium

Twitter · Jun 19, 2022, 7:57 PM

This will become a Hyperion gold mine

[dire pier]

Nice

[thin wolf]

he still need 2 T3 to complete and he really should have used a differnt wallet...

ignore that,it showed the old owner when highliting the plot.

Holy shit that is a massive City😂 well done

hopefully bidding comes well before alpha...

[near berry]

Yeah, can´t wait for bidding and hopefully I can turn my 2x2 into a 3x3

[thin wolf]

2X2 should be fine,but 3x3 are going to be expensive..

need to do some Phsyops to pull that off:=)

[high sleet]

I dont think that one's floating around yet sorry

[near berry]

Either I have to buy 2x T2s or 1xT2 and 1xT2 to turn my 2x2 into a 3x3. So hopefully it´s not getting too expensive 😄

[thin wolf]

i dident think so,was and insightful video and the spreadsheet looked good.always fun to speculate

[viscid solar]

Just seen this on IG, downloaded and I’m practicing zero by playing it. Kinda like playing TFT to prepare for survival

[harsh acorn]

Nice! I know Johnny said they are working on the game being similar to Simpsons Tapped out

[ivory badger]

Seems dead here today

[wary notch]

And still prices not tanking... C'mon people, paperhand!

[nimble lichen]

@viscid solar Interesting, ILZ going to be very addicting

[mystic umbra]

Just waiting until I see something announcements honestly

[neat condor]

Illuvidex not working properly?

[west orbit]

Ya the tokens aren’t showing up

[rough stone]

Is the illuvidex down? I keep getting error 403 today.

[vivid cipher]

It seems to me that Wallet connections are not working for the IlluviDEX at the moment… @amber atlas

[dire pier]

Tokentrove was ok earlier

[harsh acorn]

TokenTrove is working for me atm

Iluvidex seems servers are down

[vivid cipher]

Weird wallet connection issues it seems

[harsh acorn]

Yes I tried clearing cache and cookies and rebooting the browser and PC and still no go

[harsh acorn]

Could they be testing ILV zero with live wallets?!?!

[vivid cipher]

Seems unrelated

I’d think they’d possibly be upgrading or testing something on the IlluviDEX

[harsh acorn]

Yeah probably something server side is not communicating with the clients.

[viscid solar]

Oh cool I’ll download that too! Thanks!

[harsh acorn]

Yeah Ive been playing it a little since. Its pretty funny and some good chill gaming for sure. Johnny mentioned in the Polemos interview before the land sale that their goal is to be like Simpsons tapped out in a sense.

[viscid solar]

Tbh I feel Simpsons is like Snoopy town fair, and this seems a little more like what I:Z leaks look like

[harsh acorn]

Yeah I think possibly gameplay wise it might be similar. Visually ilv zero looks like a modern starcraft to me.

[timber sapphire]

Yeah ive been playing that too for last months but it gets repetitive pretty soon imo

[viscid solar]

Well, it’s an idle clicker. Don’t expect zero to be all bells and whistles like Simpsons or snoopy town fair

Unless…Illuvials are traversing the lands….🤔 I do see roads on the T5 Grant posted on IG

[timber sapphire]

Yeah but i mean with exominer you get the same quests every 20 levels(sorry for spoilers )

[viscid solar]

I honestly wasn’t gonna play it for more than a day or two 💁🏼‍♀️🤣

[timber sapphire]

Then it is perfect and really fun👍

[empty path]

This screenshot hurts my eyes

[viscid solar]

Well then grant needs hurry up and post 2 more leaks to balance it out 💁🏼‍♀️

[timber sapphire]

Just 1 should be fine right?

[viscid solar]

2

[tulip perch]

Do the guilds acept former farmvile pro’s ????

[thin wolf]

Pretty sure they do good ser

[tulip perch]

Roflmao ima sending my wife your way

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn99-noice-jake-peralta-andy-samberg-nice-gif-14234819

[static kayak]

hey on web can'ts conect wallet on illuvidex

[empty path]

There is an issue with the Illuvidex atm, the team is aware of this and working on it.

[static kayak]

thank for respone

[timber sapphire]

Maybe an announcement so you wont have to answer the question the whole day😂

[empty path]

That would be too easy

[hearty cradle]

she gets paid per reply

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/kenny-were-the-millers-you-guys-are-getting-paid-will-poulter-gif-15947352

[hearty cradle]

$5k/month sounds good?

[empty path]

Damn, sign me up

[hearty cradle]

you declined

[empty path]

Ah you mean council? Yes, already said I would do that for free 🙂

[hearty cradle]

that makes u the best candidate

[empty path]

We will see in 6 months if I run or not, a lot can happen

[timber sapphire]

So they did change it to 6 months now?

[empty path]

Yes, this got approved in IIP-21

[solemn creek]

Hey any 🐳🐋 wanna drop in and sweep the floor? Wouldn’t mind if my land value surged randomly heh

[spring void]

🐳 gonna sell their stack cuz in need of liquidity and fear of delays

[mystic umbra]

Why do you want your land to surge? You gonna sell huh

[mystic umbra]

I found another plot of land I want to buy but I honestly want to save all my money for when eth bottoms out. Alas what to do

[spring void]

Don't get married to that plot tho cuz it might get sold before you buy it and no need to fomo into it being so attached and all

[rotund reef]

It also assumes that ETH is going to bottom out (I do agree it goes lower). Nobody can call bottoms, so if you want something, put a bid number in your head now and pull the trigger when it gets there .

[spring void]

Only problem is when it drops to someone's bid human psychology kicks in and you want to wait for an even better price since it's trending down. That's like when you heard everyone ar 65k btc say "I'll sell everything I own to buy 20k btc" but when we drop to 20k everyone panicking saying they won't buy cuz its going lower

[dusty agate]

If 900- was not bottom where it can drop? Dont tell me 0 i know that :))

[hushed elbow]

for ETH?

[opal thistle]

All this convo can be moved to #💰〕token

[oak solstice]

If it follows stock market crash lows that dip about 10 to 15% below last crash low then could be another 40-50% drop based off what Michael Burry says.

[opal thistle]

#💰〕token

[muted rock]

Interested to know what anything thinks the value of a 1x Tier 2 and 3x Tier 1 Megacity is worth in Crystal Shores right now?

[errant turret]

Usually 3x floor price but with no landmarks to share the game would have to launch to see how advantageous it is.

[jade drum]

Hi Good day,
I was reading some details about the bldgs in ILV zero and i saw this "ZERO POINT TRANSDUCER" the description says that it is a matter teleportation device . . what exactly it teleports elements ? fuel? sorry im new here and im trying to learn about it sweat_smile tia for those who will answer

[vivid cipher]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[jade drum]

yes sir not sure which channel to ask then I saw the ILV zero channel . . ill just ask here thank you so much sir pelican 🙏

[lethal thunder]

Is this per month revenue per land if the annual is $2B, sorry I am confused

[hearty cradle]

imo annual, even so it's highly optimistic

[jade drum]

More questions. I'm a bit confused in terms of the selling of fuel. Is my understanding correct,
1.) when the game starts there will be a pool for eth/crypton, eth/hyperion and eth/solon which will be controlled by the DAO?
2.) There is a statement in the medium "Landowners earn approximately 5% of the total revenue generated from in-game Fuel purchases in Illuvium" I'm confused on this. Are the land owners going to sent all the fuels into a centralized pool and then ILV will be the one to sell it to players and only 5% of the total sales will be divided to the land owners?

[hearty cradle]

1. yes
2. landowners get paid when they sell the fuel produced from IZ to the balancer pool. landowners produce 5% of all fuel and the DAO produce 95%

[jade drum]

owww now that make sense. Thank you so much sir jaganite 🙂

In that case fuel amount will be more stable and won't be abused by land owners.

[jade drum]

Follow up question sir.
Fuels as we all know are ERC20 tokens and based on articles and interviews it will be used for all games that will be develop by ILV. In that case fuels doesn't have a maximum supply? Is my assumption correct?

[hearty cradle]

Fuel that is in IZ is on the server side and it is not minted
it is only minted when it is sold to the balancer pool
the supply in infinite

[jade drum]

ok sir got it thanks a lot for answering my questions 💯

[neat condor]

I didn’t get this 95% produce by DAO? So we sell fuel to the pools and there will be 5% RevDis to land owners is this correct?

[little moon]

No, lands don’t get revdis. Lands produce 5% of the fuel and you earn by selling that fuel to the pools.

[jade drum]

This is my understanding sir, land owners will earn by selling the fuel based on the amount of eth which will be controlled by the DAO. the 5% which was mentioned approximately is the total earnings from fuel purchases.

We can compare it to gasoline stations .
Total gasoline stations are 2,000,000 5% of it are 100,000 (total land plots will be sold ever)

1.9M gasoline stations - owned by DAO (which makes them 95%)
100k gasoline stations - owned by land owners (which makes land owners 5%)

Note: This is only based on my understanding

[neat condor]

Oh I see, so we’ll be selling fuel to DAO as wholesale?

I wonder if we can use the fuel ourselves, or do we need to sell and buy from DAO

[jade drum]

I saw some yt video about this and they mentioned that we can't use it directly and we need to sell it and buy it back. let me check the source and get back to you sir

[neat condor]

Thanks Man

[jade drum]

this one sir @neat condor from OskaMattGaming ->
Illuvinews ep 7 | Illuvium News delivered the way you deserve!
time: around 3:11

[balmy ruin]

ETA: end of month?

[karmic mica]

No, longer

[jade drum]

guys not ILZ related but go check the overworld update posted by ILV YT channel
Illuvium: Overworld Update

Damn so nice 👏👏👏

[umbral badge]

that was the amount received Per Year, IF there was $2b spent in Fuel sales

need to remember that the 5% market fees that Illuvium receives for people trading would NOT go to land holders, and thus would not affect Land revenue for Fuel sales.

[unkempt bronze]

Realy? Thats not what the documents said as part of land sale. The documents said we get 5% revenue distribution and we also dan sell our fuel.

Maybe i misread though

[timber sapphire]

It was worded kinda poorly but it is only fuel sales

[little moon]

I think it said something like ‘land owners can earn their share of 5% of ingame revenue’ or something along those lines.

The wording was a tad confusing. The whole system is kinda confusing though 🤣

[fair temple]

And the efficiency rates are not exactly accurate anymore. You used 10-20-50-100% while the actual production boost is now 33-100-300-900%

[gusty fractal]

Illuvium team Will never let lands with a poor Roi. because the next sale Will be a disaster.

if you can make much more money with revdis than owning a Land... 🤷

[fair temple]

Yeah at some point you would realise that holding ILV gives a similar type of revenue as a land. Bút for lands you would have to be active while ILV is pure passiveness.
The main benefit from lands over ILV tokens is the Blueprints, which are gacha based 🤣 So (impopular opinion lol) you basically buy a land, harvest fuel, and play daily just to play an idle gacha game to hopefully get rich until someone else gets that blueprint and you are back to playing gacha 😂

[umbral badge]

correct. that post was wayyyyy old hehe

[fair temple]

But still pretty good!

[small star]

It’s pretty accurate, I’ve something similar to @umbral badge

[fair temple]

But this is per month, and his is per year

If it goes up to 370 per month for a T2 i wont have to work anymore!

[small star]

ohhhhh yeahhhhhh ok

[timber sapphire]

Taxes have entered the chat

[small star]

I've no tax 😛

[fair temple]

Fuck might need double my T2s then 😩

[hearty cradle]

yea, in 5 years

or maybe never, because we wont vote for it mwahahaha

[jade drum]

Guys can you share your thoughts on buying a land (fuel & blueprints) vs buying ILV (revdis when staked) during this bear market? Let's say you only have a limited budget around 1.5k to 2k usd what will you do?

[ivory bough]

Nearly $100/month for a T1 fuel-wise? 👀 or did I read it wrong?

[little moon]

it should be close to accurate, otherwise, why waste the whole year for a mere 100$

[timber sapphire]

I think its t2 with a lot of optimistic numbers

[hazy jewel]

According wich calculation?

[mystic mantle]

That the game is a success xD

[little moon]

just from above

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[hazy jewel]

Ty

[timber sapphire]

You can start earning from staking now, you wont earn a lot from land rn because zero isnt even out and even with the alpha you only keep blueprints. But land can increase in price as well so its a choice you need to make for yourself

[hazy jewel]

Hi sorry if question had already been made: how do you reach this numbers?

[timber sapphire]

Math

[hazy jewel]

O well I tought crystal ball, ty for sharing

[thin wolf]

Based on this I would make 3600$ a month👀
What is the math on this and what is it based on?

[radiant sky]

You can't calculate it now without Crystal Ball... Because you don't know the basic numbers... I think?

[thin wolf]

Don't believe you can

[timber sapphire]

Illuvium ball also a possibility
https://c.tenor.com/2iUyPIAssTcAAAAM/illuvium-ilv.gif

[hazy jewel]

😉👍

[thin wolf]

Always fun speculating.
Can say Roi is roughly 50% from landsale price in eth and that could give a ball park.

[little moon]

ilv staking relies on revdis which relies on sales; it’s not easy and costs gas fees, plus your ilv tokens are locked for a year. good thing here is you don’t need to play daily, it’s completely passive.

land otoh, relies on fuel and a chance to find blueprint which both can be sold in mp, all can be sold anytime. the downside is you have to be actively playing the game. although i must say the roi is much higher than ilv+revdis since there’ll be more things happening once game launches than sales happening

[jade drum]

thanks for the detailed explanation sir . . damn it's hard to decide :)))))

[little moon]

that’s another thing to like in illuvium, it just depends what investment strategy you’re interested in 🙂

[jade drum]

I wan't to do both.. Only left thing is money hahaha

[radiant sky]

Just buy a t1 and stack the Rest... So you don't have to decide 😜

[jade drum]

thanks man for your inputs appreciate it aswell

[jade drum]

ok will try to consider this thanks bro 🙂

[radiant sky]

No financial advice tho 😂

[jade drum]

yup understood haha just want to have some inputs and what are the strategies that you guys have, so I can have a basis hahaha

[ivory bough]

To me $50/month for a T1 was more than a lot, but $100, why not? LFG 😄

[timber sapphire]

But those prices were for t2 right?

[radiant sky]

Same... If this numbers would be accurate, i quit my job and enjoy travelling the world 😂

[ivory bough]

If they ar correct, I think I need more lands for that

[ivory bough]

Everything is speculation. Can be way lower still, who knows. Since Fuel fluctuates as well

[radiant sky]

100%... If they are acurrate, prices for Lands will go to the moon

[ivory bough]

If lands provide a lot of passive income by just working on them 1 hour a day, land will be priceless. Why sell if it is paying you unless you want to liquidate your asset.

[near berry]

If it will be possible to make a few bucks a day with a rented T2, the land prices will explode 🚀

[radiant sky]

You could get an offer for one of your Lands, because some Guy wana do his 3x3 megacity... I would be openminded to sell one of my Lands for a ridicoulous amount of ETH 🙃

[jade drum]

One thing's for sure, (Long term) Lands will be really valuable since the fuels will be used in all games that ILV will develop

[ivory bough]

Sure. That's def an option 🙂

[small star]

160 000 000 $ in game revenue per months. Personally I use much less as I’m more conservative. But would be happy Ahahah

[small star]

Yeah well, let’s get a product out and revenues before dreaming of 2b$ of ingame revenue per year

Because for me ingame revenue will be a small part compare to the out-game revenues (wagering, land, land resale, illuvitars, illuvitars resale, illuvials resale, etc)

[obsidian patrol]

Big disagree here. Ingame revenue will 100% be A lot more than outside of the game.

[latent kiln]

when the land game? they say 3 weeks after the sale, still waiting

[small star]

Good then, more value for land owners. 🙂

But I think royalties of all NFTs will ramp up quickly and take over. Just my opinion.

[small star]

8-12 weeks after the sale would be a better guess

[timber sapphire]

They said 6-8 weeks quickly after that so probably still 6 ish weeks

[latent kiln]

we are all wrong, is not 3 is not 8, is not 6, this is from the medium post: " An Open Alpha version of the game is planned to release some 4+ weeks after the Land sale; this date is subject to change. "

[timber sapphire]

Ye so keep an eye on #📣〕announcements

[latent kiln]

4 weeks is the next monday

[drifting phoenix]

When alpha get released do we get access to both mobile and desktop ?

[timber sapphire]

"this date is subject to change"

[latent kiln]

not sure my fren, of course is always subject to change, i just want if they change the date that make a announcement explaining about that delay

[timber sapphire]

They never make the 4 weeks official so they wont make an announcement of a delay is what they said after the landsale. Not my words

I was hoping on those 4 weeks as well

[latent kiln]

I take all the medium blogs post as oficial communications

[rotund reef]

We're in the 2-6 week zone now, if the 4-8 was correct when they said it.

[timber sapphire]

No all official dates only in #📣〕announcements

[lapis gulch]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[latent kiln]

oh damn my anxiety is waking up again

[timber sapphire]

If you want ill buy your plot👀

[latent kiln]

well i put 2 of my plots on sale, but not cheaps they are sniper shoots xD

[timber sapphire]

Ah oke

[drifting phoenix]

need some suggestion i have a land in T1 but i have 3 Lake , is it worth to sell it for floor price and buy another land with even spread on elements by paying extra ?

[wheat dome]

i would not do it personally. its nice to have 1 of each but not a must... u can still convert or trade for the elements u need

[rotund reef]

How easy is that going to be? Does anyone know yet?

[little moon]

i go on a different suggestion, I also sold 2 t2s for 1 t2, the 2 previous t2s don't have a crypton site, the new one has all element and fuel sites
upon buying the new t2 (that has all the element and fuel sites), it's cheapest price in the market is 3x compared to the previous 2x t2s combined
bonus is that I also managed to get some (~30%) from the 2x t2s sold and use it to day trading

tldr; long term, get a tier that has all element sites (if t1) and all fuel sites (if t2 and above), it'll be more expensive than a mere land with missing sites in the long run

disclaimer: nfa

[silk shore]

Wen game?

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-okay-real-soon-very-quickly-in-a-second-just-a-moment-gif-15029375

[timber sapphire]

Real soon👀 ? Thats new

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[ivory bough]

Yep. Totally agree

[radiant sky]

😑
guys Like you Made me just do a 2x2 in istead of 3x3 😔

[timber sapphire]

I mean that was a good strat many did

[latent kiln]

2x2 is quite cool my fren, i just have 3 plots to buy and need to put my best in finding a good plot t1

[radiant sky]

Totally get you, it's business... Disappointment when my t1 got sniped was just reeeaaly big

[latent kiln]

yea i feel you, maybe you can get that plot for not a lot, i mean i have put my sale very low not really expecting to get reach with that sales xD

[radiant sky]

Meanwhile gave it up, just stay with my 2x2... Probably a stupid kiddo who think he will get Rich with this one t1 😅

[latent kiln]

haha yes i have seen some list of that kind, doesn't make sense (at least for now that a 3x3 don't give you more than a 2x2 if i'm not wrong)

[radiant sky]

Not that much in Alpha... Still a little tho, because of the landmarks u can maybe build up Scanner faster, for a better Chance finding a blueprint

[hazy jewel]

Where does this 2b ingame revenues prediction comes from?

[timber sapphire]

Greed

[vivid cipher]

People have taken the revenue that other popular games have and use that to estimate from.

[lapis gulch]

Here's a wild one. Can we vote on the DAO to use some of the treasury or earned revdis from the treasury in order to bid on one of the T5s. This will give the DAO freedom on the events they can create.

[hazy jewel]

These popular game are mainstream? ( first I can think is fortnite )?

[naive fog]

Floor prices climbing 🙂

[gilded ingot]

Guys relax nobody is going to be millionaire for playing a game, plus youre getting all wrong the 5% is the total share nobody will earn the same amount theres is 3 types of fuel and won't be the same price will be a 25%+- on prices depends on their demand. Also you have to develop the land fuel production with the higuer tiers getting first because they have the % plus on fuel production so will be a lot of variables to consider before making an estimation on what will be the ROI of lands.🍻

[dusty agate]

So why some millionaires invest ?

[gilded ingot]

There are 20k lands and i have seen ppl with 30+lands that won't be able to work so will be much less players than the 20k lands i would say 10K active players or even much less. So if you are an active player you will earn a lot more.

[vivid cipher]

@hazy jewel Yeah probably though it could also be an extrapolation (read as… s t r e t c h) from claims like this…

[marsh sage]

People will be able to 'rent' land out to have other gamers play it and split the proceeds. Illuvium has already confirmed this model will be offered. Additionally, 3rd parties like Arcade2Earn and Polemos will offer the same.

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[dusty agate]

I am really thinking to rent one despite i have mine to play

Okay if there are some megacity owners who have no time to grind I am open to any offers :))

[gilded ingot]

Yes, i forget to say that but however i don't think will be 20K players at least the first couple of months

[hazy jewel]

Well 2b revenue seems too optimistic forecast: 1/10 would realistic, 1/5 would be a great start

[gilded ingot]

It will hit mainstream immediately when the blueprints and illuviums start selling at high prices 🙂

[hazy jewel]

Really hope so

[hearty cradle]

2025

[gilded ingot]

Also grant told something about founding the obelisk will be lucrative if this is something real well i believe it will give a huge prize that another mainstream hit. Also when tier 5 sold i believe it will be at some ridiculous prices that will hit the mainstream.

[hazy jewel]

Obelisk? Can you explain?

[vivid cipher]

It definitely has to do with the overworld game. Not #🎮〕illuvium-zero

[gilded ingot]

That unlocks the regions to all the players, it will have your name too.

[hazy jewel]

A ok ty

[slate merlin]

I'm still curious about the grid dimensions of a single plot of land. Has anyone seen that referenced anywhere?

[strong pewter]

Where are you tracking this?

[woeful narwhal]

Al said 50x50

[slate merlin]

Thanks, I hadn't seen the grid mentioned.

[woeful narwhal]

He answered to a question.

[strong pewter]

50 x 50. What does that actually mean or imply?

[fair temple]

The amount of squares that makes up the entire land plot.
It is a builder game where your buildings have dimensions ranging from 2x2 squares to 6x4. So the total area of your land is pretty important to know.

[spring void]

Land floor increasing cuz the old bulltrap rally in stocks getting ppls fomo acting up

[noble drum]

has there been any discussion on Element to Fuel matching? In the ILZ gameplay video a while back it looked like they were using silcon to extract cypton and hydrogen to extract solon, etc. So is it beter to have certain elements on your land when you have certain fuel sites? has this been covered anywhere at all?

[harsh acorn]

A lot of details are TBD once we get our hands on the alpha. Here is what is known.

[drifting phoenix]

Thanks

[drifting phoenix]

Thanks

[shell rose]

We still thinking maybe 4-6 weeks out for alpha?

[reef echo]

I thought it was 4-8 weeks from the land sale. so in the 2-6 week range I am hoping. I haven't seen any updates, but I could be wrong

[trail stirrup]

illuvium land game out yet? beta? alpha someone bring me up to date please

[empty path]

No

[hearty cradle]

but wen

[timber sapphire]

Soon

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[small star]

Between the 15th and the 25th

[empty path]

[undone phoenix]

Of which month / year?

[shell rose]

July. For alpha.

[crude drum]

Do we Need to do something to get the Alpha? I already got private beta 1 to play arena but i don't know what to do for the next part

[shell rose]

Nope. Open to everyone. If you have land, you can save blueprints you find. Everything else will be wiped for beta (when everything moves to the blockchain)

[undone phoenix]

That truly is soon. Nice

[naive fog]

https://twitter.com/Illuviumlands

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[severe oracle]

when i can build my mega city, I'll evolve from casual to sweaty gamer

cant wait!

[wary notch]

Does anyone know how long each plot of land takes IF you have multiple lands? it's been mentioned that each plot will take 20 - 30 mins a day, but what happens if you have say 10, will it be 200 - 300 or not really because while you wait for something to load on plot A you could be working on plot B and C and so on...

[drifting phoenix]

Does the mega city will be available in beta this year ?

[wary notch]

I think this is important when making a decision on wether to buy a higher tiered land or multiple lower tiered lands.

[ionic summit]

I think u have to invest this time on all land, so yes u have to spend much time if u don’t have a MC

[dusty agate]

Dont forget that u ll need most of your time in overwarld

Not in IZ, so i think its better to have some higher tier lands then multiple t1s. Also even if u get more blueprints from your lands you ll need lot of extra resources and think it will be hard to craft like 10 different skins same time unless u are not a whale and dont buy materials all the time

[noble drum]

I don’t think it’s a matter of load times. You’re going to need to open up the land and then go around and harvest resources from a bunch of your different sites and then work on upgrading your buildings and making changes and building new buildings and converting things etc. and that may take just a couple minutes but you are probably going to need to come back every hour or two and do the same thing again for a few minutes. So in total each day you may end up spending 20 or 30 minutes doing that on each plot. So if you have 10 blocks then you may very well need to spend 2-4 hours a day if you want to fully keep up. I have a lot of lands myself but I don’t plan on being able to maintain all the T1 lands. So for the alpha I plan to just maintain my few higher tier lands or look for friends to work the others

[noble drum]

Once the full launch happens you could rent out some of your land or look to create more manageable megacities or perhaps sell some lower tier lands for a single high tier

[dusty agate]

Think i d like to rent one but renting t1 will be useless think so

[wary notch]

Thanks man, great input

[noble drum]

I don’t think it’s useless at all. Just like owning the house but renting it out. You get to onwn the asset and gain any appreciation in value the land may get. Plus you may have an agreement to split all fuel profits. Well someone else spends all the time to fully maximize your plot

[noble drum]

Time is money

[dusty agate]

Of course owners will gain some profit

[wary notch]

Think he might mean for the one renting the land to work on it

[noble drum]

If the renter gets half the fuel profit but doesn’t need to pay for the land.

[noble drum]

Perhaps a young kid with no money to buy land but can work yours until they save up to buy one.

[wary notch]

We have no clue what the real income for a T1 will look like could be 10c could be a dollar a day

[dusty agate]

Yeh. It is like if u just want to play game free maybe its ok to rent land from someone but if u want to make some money thats worth of time think its better to deal with someone who has higher tier lands

[wary notch]

True

[dusty agate]

I own some t1 and i was told that maybe after an year i ll be able to get my money back

[umbral hull]

mostly speculation, fyi. nothing is guaranteed

[noble drum]

Yep. Everyone has their own calculations on revenue. My calc is that once each plot is fully maxed out it will generate 1-2x its cost each year. So I think a T1 will do 500-1000 a year in profits. But just my calculations

[dusty agate]

Thats somewhere 2$ a day . But its only calculations of fuel price . I liked the idea of owning land because in my opinion it can bring me more money from blueprint (Skins) and the price is not connected what happens to crypto market, i ll be just crafting my own NfT and i ll decide how much they cost

[odd brook]

50000(land count, aprox corrected for you using T1)x500-1000x20(revenue of ilv total)= so you are assuming between 500M-1000M revenue? Seems pretty high to me..

[noble drum]

Correct. I was assuming 500-1000M. I thought it was a reasonable ballpark two years from now. Once the game has been out a while and everyone has maxed out their lands. But everyone will have their own calculations and expectations

[wary notch]

Has anyone donde the calculation for the revenue other crypto games have made? Axie infinity for example

I know we should be getting so much more adoption, but it's a conservative way to start

[dusty agate]

If they fail to do so then some rules has to be changed regarding 5%. Will be fair if lands make more money for owners as people payed 72m$ in something . Imagine if we could start business with 72m :))

[noble drum]

I think axie did 1,300m last year

[odd brook]

I guess we will have to wait and see 🙂

[wary notch]

So within you range of calculation for a T1 to get $500?

Seems good

[odd brook]

Idk, I dont think so. Apy of 25% is allrdy crazy high

[dusty agate]

Anyways if u ll ned help i am always ready :))

I even stoped playing other games and waiting when this one will be released.

[wary notch]

After a land is fully optimized how long U guys think it will take to manage?

[dusty agate]

Think u ll just harvest your resources and sell them or something else

[noble drum]

Yea I think my calculation was every 500m in rev was paid as $278 per fully maxed fuel site (at 150%)

[fickle ore]

Not me daydreaming about playing a land builder 😂

[wary notch]

Yeah but like 10 min, 1 min, 5 min???

[deep bramble]

When Kieran mentioned in an interview the numbers 30mins/day to manage a land doesn't mean it has to be that number. I think he was using that number as a figurative speech. It all depends on your skills and knowledge. You decide how long you want to spend in the game. The more you play the better you get at maxing out your land. Just enjoy it.

[dusty agate]

And also i am not sure what we are going to do with other resources like hydrogen or carbon once we wont need them for buildings

[noble drum]

Did u watch the ILZ gameplay leak. That was 1min of doing minimal harvest. Then add on construction and conversion and all other actions. It could be 5-10 mins like 4-5 times a day. Depends on how much you sit and analyze too

[dusty agate]

😂😂there no big difference between 10 and 5 minutes guess it will depend how fast u are :))

[wary notch]

It will if you have to manage like a hundred plots

[tribal flume]

Tier fuel profit guestimations?

[dusty agate]

Dont think someone is going to manage 100 plots alone .. do u have 100? :))

[odd brook]

1st world problems 😂😂

[wary notch]

113 so far

[edgy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-omfg-oh-my-sweet-jesus-sweet-jesus-oh-my-gif-4946454

[dusty agate]

U ll need help if u keep tham :))

[odd brook]

Sweet! Just employ someone lol 🐳

[deep bramble]

If you have too many plots, just lend some to someone else to manage them for you and split the profits.

[dusty agate]

Think i found some employers here 😂😂😂

[noble drum]

T1 $550, T2 $2225, T3 $6675, T4 $20k. That’s my “guess”

[deep bramble]

Are these yearly estimations?

[noble drum]

Yea yearly at 1B annual fuel revenue

[golden steeple]

Then add potential revenue from scanned iluvial sales

[noble drum]

But I don’t expect that for two years or so

[noble drum]

Yep. But no clue how to calc that. Haha

[deep bramble]

Interesting! My gut feelings was that T1 will at least bring in $1000-$2000 yearly within 5 years

[dusty agate]

U ll need some chicken blood and fishbones😂😂

[oak solstice]

No way it reaches that high only because another land sale will come b4 5 years

[deep bramble]

In crypto language, T1 to bring in 1 to 2 ETH a year

[dusty agate]

I need 6k for university fees each year so i ll go for t3 in that case :))

[noble drum]

I really mean. $500. Regardless of eth price.

[noble drum]

Yea as a general thought I would think the team may wait for land sale two at least until all money is made back by those on land sale 1. But just a thought

[dusty agate]

I think its all about how much fuel players will need for crafting and travelling. I mean those who are without land . If its cheap then theres no big profit for landowners if its too expansive then maybe game will loose some players

[crystal bear]

I'd be very careful about putting money I can't lose into crypto...

[little moon]

I'd be careful about putting money I cant lose anywere...

[crystal bear]

Indeed. You need risk rankings, and cryto is up there in the highest band for me.

[dusty agate]

I used to put lot of money in alcohol now i think its better to loose it this way 😂

[little moon]

I think leaving cash in your car is even riskier

[dusty agate]

Unless u are not buying 113 lands

[crystal bear]

Not the best investment though 🙂

[noble drum]

I still do both excessively 😂

[deep bramble]

Definitely! Even Kieran mentioned it's meant to act like the real-world economy

[oak solstice]

At this point leaving alot of gas in your car is risky 🤣 🤣

[little moon]

I find that the money I lose in crypto causes me to lose even more money to alcohol.

[dusty agate]

Yeh they are directly connected

I am waiting that alluvials will have some good price and in that case travelling or shards to catch then has to be expansive. Otherwise it will be like u pay a 1$ and u get 50$ reward

[noble drum]

Also remember that hier tiers will reach Max output faster than low tiers. So the balance of fuel revenue distribution will go to the higher level lands more until the lower level lands can catch up with their production

[crystal bear]

I suspect if you want to make money through capital gains, T1 is a better investment, it's likely to sell faster and gain more value as the game gains attention. If you want to make income, T2+ are a better investment, probably getting more income per dollar invested.

[dusty agate]

So we can still get some good income if we start with trading T1 lands but think its not right time for that now

[crystal bear]

Yeah, I'd agree, but also depends on where you see crypto going, and how long you'll hold on. I'm quite pessimistic on crypto for a while myself.

[dusty agate]

I thinking to buy more land if it drops and keep until game release.

[crystal bear]

I kept one T1 to myself just to enjoy/discover the game, but I'm mostly out of crypto otherwise (except a few similar games).

[dusty agate]

That was my first experience with crypto, also payed some extra while learning 🤓

[crystal bear]

I lost earlier on Axie as I got in while it was collapsing w/o realising. All learning experience 😄

[dusty agate]

Yeh same could can happen with Stepn for me, i am glad i decided to invest here as i am not big lover of walking 😅😅

[oak solstice]

Theoretically a t2 is 4x a t1 with boost but the problem is it isnt real world applicable unless the t1 and t2 are the same with fuel layout. If a t1 has a balanced element layout with it's 1 fuel and the t2 has varying fuels and elements, they aren't gonna 4x the production of the t1.

[dusty agate]

Thats why t2 costs 3x

[oak solstice]

It doesn't mean it is worth 3x. It's all between which lands you are comparing. The effiency of the land is more important than the tier.

[dusty agate]

It was unknown before buying what kind of elements u ll get on our land so we can compare floor prices payed on auction.

[oak solstice]

Right, but you can always sell and get a more optimal plot. Only reason there was to gamble on the land sale was to get the silv2 discount. If your land wasn't balanced you should sell and get one that is now.

[dusty agate]

I bought with silv2 but still payed 700$ i dont think i can sell it now without loosing

[oak solstice]

You would be selling and buying in same range

[dusty agate]

It was good for those who had some cheap silv 2

[oak solstice]

Just would lose fees, which are also cheaper since value is lower

[dusty agate]

Think its hard to do that now , as there are lot of lands for sale and u have to extremely lucky to sell one

[oak solstice]

I got lucky, I minted a perfectly balanced t1 with solon fuel. So i purchased 2 more t1s, 1 perfectly balanced plot with hyperion and other with crypton.

[dusty agate]

Mine are not well balanced, but still going to buy maybe t2 in July, i ll keep those for future who knows what can happen.

[wary notch]

Anyone know if there's a way I can bid for a T4 safely?

[strong pewter]

What do you mean by balance?

[harsh acorn]

There are 3 fuel types and 3 element types and each plot has a random configuration of them

[small star]

That’s the question 😅

[shell rose]

You can’t bid yet. Earlier in the week somebody said that IMX was targeting July to be able to do some basic bid capability though.

[teal mural]

Do y’all think this tier 3 have a good balance

[lunar shell]

it's there any gild focused in lands?

[tribal flume]

My strategy is going for fuel sites that are balanced out completely, ie t3 that has 2 crypton, 2 Hyperion and 2 solons

I’ve got a tier 2 that has 1 per fuel, looking to get 2 more t3’s or t4

[jade drum]

Hi Good day,
Just want to ask if there are any details or updates on the process of fuel conversion? Because I saw that there are 3 bldgs which can convert the fuels but didn't mention any details about the conversion, is the ratio going to be 1:1?

[noble drum]

I’d say it’s pretty good. Not perfect but certainly on the plus side when it come to variety and some good link up with the landmark. Some people also think crypton may be more valuable than the other fuels (I have no reason to believe that yet) but if true then even better.

[noble drum]

Certainly perfectly balanced is great but you will prob pay extra for it. Being one or two off perfect can still be just fine at a discount.

[ancient nacelle]

Not bad, what's the asking price?

[teal mural]

Lol not for sale am adding more to my collection, imma grab two T2 and a few T1’s. Shit I made 15k on Axie infinity land and I think this is going to do way better! so it’s HOLD time and accumulate time

[teal mural]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking and I need some more Hyperion and Solon so imma grab a T2 that has high numbers in those areas

We can use the fuel that we mined to play or sell rite?

[primal wagon]

The plan is only for selling

[candid fog]

rate my plot

[oak ruin]

My 2x2 land is so perfect, i cant wait to build a megacity

[vivid cipher]

It will not be 1:1. It will be a little lossy depending on the level of your buildings. Higher levels equal higher optimization.

I’m not certain on this… but It may actually even be possible for some highly optimized lands with specific landmarks and high level buildings to be able to convert into their landmark supported fuel at a better than 1:1 rare.

[muted valve]

This is my best land. Taiga Boreal

[muted valve]

You got the perfect booster. Nice plot. Which region

[jade drum]

Ok thanks sir pelican. just thinking a solution for those lands that only have 1 kind of fuel, sample a t2 with 3 solons. If the demand for solon will be less then the only way is to convert it hehe 😅

[vivid cipher]

Yeah conversions can happen. Even for the elements.

[brave basin]

Is land already available?

[vivid cipher]

It is. On the IlluviDEX. #🔗〕helpful-links

!land

[dry forge]

June 2nd is the date set for the first Land Sale. Illuvium: Zero is a mobile mini-game that will interact with the main game. Illuvium: Zero is a building game staged on a piece of land. Paid land will produce Fuel ERC20 tokens and Blueprints, interacting with the main game. There are 100k plots of land in total, and the first land sale will offer 20k of these plots for sale in a dutch auction format. We delete all progress when Illuvium: Overworld launches. For more information, visit #🎮〕illuvium-zero

[vivid cipher]

The sale happened. All the 20k plots sold. (Except for the handful the team did not want to sell, they kept for testing and giveaways. And the 2 tier 5s.)

[brave basin]

So tier 2 and tier 5s are not for sale yet?

[quaint prism]

Seems the bot reply needs to be updated to reflect the success and past-tenseness of the land sale 😉

[vivid cipher]

Tier 2s are available. Only the 2 of 7 highly unique and specialized tier 5s were not sold yet of the 20k that were planned to be available so far. Those will go on sale in an English style auction eventually. When the time is right. The council will make that final call.

Here’s a lot of info… #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[brave basin]

Thanks for all the info you’ve provided me with I’m slowly catching up as I’m new

[vivid cipher]

The direct sale is over. But the TRADE section of the illuvDEX is where those that minted a land can put it up for sale. And people can buy them from them.

[brave basin]

I haven’t been this excited for a game drop since Super Mario 64 🤭 I can’t wait to play

[vivid cipher]

So one thing that gets confusing when starting is that #🎮〕illuvium-zero is a different game than the autobattler/overworld

But the economies are tied together. In fact all upcoming games from the Illuvium studio will use the fuel tokens produced by land holders in the #🎮〕illuvium-zero game

[brave basin]

I’m slowly understanding how it’s all tied together and how land will generate fuel for the other games

[candid fog]

Taiga boreal

[flat steeple]

Work in progress

[rustic geyser]

Hi, was away for some time and lost track a bit. Found some illuvium land on opensea. Are those scams or the real illuvium land NFTs? 31 atm available under Illuvium-land. How can I make sure those NFTs are related to Illuvium? Thx for any help!

[little moon]

Most of the land will be on IMX. it’s possible that there are some legit lands that made their way onto open sea but I wouldn’t know how to verify their authenticity.

[drifting phoenix]

As far i know it safe to buy only from illuvidex, immutable & tokentrove

[vivid cipher]

I believe that 31 item collection is a scam. I’ve got the legit link though. I’ll pull it up.

It’s definitely just wise to use the IlluviDEX on IMX.

[drifting phoenix]

does any one have update when we will get the make offer option in illuvidex ? will it come before beta ?

[vivid cipher]

No update on that. It’s an IMX thing. But imx is working on it.

[drifting phoenix]

Thanks for the update

[vivid cipher]

I’ll open a private thread to share the link to the official collection on opensea. The thread will no longer be for discussion or even questions. Use other channels.

There’s only 9 lands on there at this point. None are listed for sale. 2 of those 9 are the two tier 5s the team had to mint to be able to run the English auction eventually. Nothing useful is happening on opensea. It’s simply being shared so no one gets scammed.

Anyone can reply to this and I’ll add you to the thread. Technically any mod can add people to the thread.

[rustic geyser]

Thx guys!

[rustic geyser]

Ty

[drifting phoenix]

i am also interested please add me

does any one have update When we get alpha ,will it have rental option ?

[little moon]

Not in alpha. Maybe by the time the open beta launches.

[thin wolf]

Fun fact,Secondary sales on lands are a total of 2822 Eth(113 Eth to Revdis) in 20 days. 7 day average is 53Eth per day(2.1Eth to Revdis) or 19345 Eth yearly(21,2Million Usd at current valuation) and thats just for land sale on Secondary before the game is launched and no way of bidding,also no Ingame Economy for the main game,no Illuvitars.. we are so early it hurts not to buy more land...

[drifting phoenix]

Thanks

[vivid cipher]

I Added you to the thread.

[drifting phoenix]

Thanks just now checked

[stiff talon]

Add me as well please

[wary notch]

Me please

[lethal thunder]

Is there 10k nft skins only? If yes, there will be 10k lucky lands who can get them? Am I understanding it correctly?

[hearty cradle]

there will be blueprint duplicates

it's just rare to find

[hollow shoal]

Sort of, so out of the 20,000 lands many people have too many lands for them to manage so one person with a few might have more blueprints than someone with 20+ lands

[thin wolf]

I have 10 in total, and will struggle if it needs 20-30 min a day to manage.my oldest son will be taking on half of them at least😬

[hollow shoal]

I think you’ll be fine, gotta split the workload but should be good. I hope we get many blueprints!

[thin wolf]

I was hoping to reduce to just having two megacities, but that is proving difficult at this time😬

[hollow shoal]

Will be easier when the offer/bid system is put in!

[thin wolf]

Ohh defintley😀i hope we will see that in July at least before alpha is released.
There is a couple of t1 around where I want my megacity, but they want 4eth for a T1, I am not paying that..

[hollow shoal]

Yeah I am all about lots of cheap stuff. Mega city would be nice but meh not for me…yet lol

[ocean hollow]

when will land be playable?

[drifting phoenix]

alpha will be in 1-2 months

[agile sigil]

Been almost 3 weeks since landsale so 4-8 weeks -3,
1-5 weeks Alpha possible

[rotund reef]

Delay rumors IIRC happened a week after the sale, so I think we're in the 2-6 week range......if it holds.

[timber sapphire]

https://c.tenor.com/ld5tk9ujuJsAAAAM/doubt-press-x.gif

Just wait for announcement 🧠

[rotund reef]

Too easy. 😆

[tulip perch]

Im dating also im not interested in a mega city I dating my T4 neighebour for a fortress he only needs to sell me a T1 thats crap 😉

[jade drum]

floor price is going up 👀

[tulip perch]

gotta wait for cloudfair to sort themselves out ...apparently half the inet stopped working a few days ago because of them .......lol

[tulip perch]

Mr IZ said 3 weeks .....he's been MIA in his cave ever since ......we will seee

[silk comet]

yeah i remember someone from the team saying 1 month after the sale? so should be in 1-2weeks?

[tulip perch]

Grant added 1 week for the graphic update

so maybee soon 💪 💪

Ive got a bottle of champers in the firdge ready to pop

[timber sapphire]

It hasnt even been announced yet, then marketing for it, so im thinking at least a month still

[near berry]

yeah, but unfortunately a flipper listed 20 T1s for 0.5247 (price on Token Trove). Will not be easy to break this wall and others will probably undercut.

[tulip perch]

i need to check maybe it one i need .....brb

[timber sapphire]

Just dont buy🧠

[near berry]

good luck

[timber sapphire]

If no demand, prices will drop eventually

[tulip perch]

not mine oh well

but maybe a "Sign" something coming

[near berry]

Demand is currently not very high. So I expect at least a drop of T1 prices in the next days.

[little moon]

Ooh yeah, give us a nice 2 month delay to really shake out the paper hands 🤣

[near berry]

The T5 auctions should bring new attention.

[static blade]

They will probably do t5 suction before game starts it would only be fair

[near berry]

Especially if they sell for big amounts of Eth.

[tulip perch]

my prediction ....but who am I the T5 auction will come before the major unlocks so the VC can benefit for the redivs even if they dont buy the plots themselvevs

and ofcourse the community

[compact nebula]

Land prices are so cheap now, although there is currently no utility yet

[dusty agate]

Do u think that those t5 are kept for someone who has stuck lot of ?

[jade drum]

wow that's a lot for the current prices better to buy a T2 the price is more reasonable i think

[abstract knot]

Can you add me?

[teal mural]

Most likely buy the middle of Aug

[hazy jewel]

Please add me

[tall halo]

add me too please

[paper flame]

What ever happened with the surprise?

[shell rose]

I feel like that was the overworld YouTube footage drop yesterday.

[mystic umbra]

To be fair the surprise did mention the ‘shapeshifter guys’ which I’m not sure falls under the gameplay footage

[undone phoenix]

My prediction. Tier 5 will be in November 2022.

[kindred kettle]

could you add me too, please

[shell rose]

Ahhh that’s right.

[lost drift]

Add me please

[oak solstice]

Please add, thanks!

[fallen nymph]

Please add me as well.

[fair temple]

you really got yourself into a troublesome situation.
People really want to see those 9 lands man! at least 2 of which aren't even on sale XD

[hearty rain]

Does anyone know if different tiers of land will take longer to get max output each day? Deciding if a tier 4 land would be better if I only have 30 minutes a day instead of tier 3 since it may require triple the time each day

[harsh acorn]

Resources help you build your land plot. Higher tier land plots have more resources and if managed right will get to max output faster.

[hearty rain]

Thank you for te info

[severe oracle]

It just occured to me that depending on when megacities are possible, it would also have an affect. For example, if I have a 2x2 with a T3 and 3x T1s and I have maxed out all of my buildings and then the team releases the megacity option, then the landmark affects on the T1s will be redundant. Ofcourse, if a T4 is involved, then that will always be better regardless of when Megacities are possible.

So timing is key, I guess if you want to build a megacity and own less than a T4

[vivid cipher]

Yeah it’s dumb. None are listed for sale. And it’s pretty obvious that the sales that were made were actually not sales but were “transfers” between wallets of the same person. Oh well.

I hope I don’t get banned by the anti spam bot for all these pings.

[ivory badger]

What was the final total of eth from land sale?

I’m trying to get a friend that collects cardano nft’s to check out illuvium

[winter python]

What is everyone expecting from the properties they bought? Like actually earning money?

[flat steeple]

Maybe $100-150 a year for my T1? Idk I plan to use most of my fuel instead of selling it

[static blade]

@drifting phoenix please add me:)

[wise widget]

I'm not 100% sure but I think atleast to start with, we can't use it ourselves. But I'm sure one day we will be able to

[flat steeple]

I know we would have to sell to the pool and buy back what we need as of now. Just until some technical hurdles are solved to allow the use of your own fuel ⛽️

[little moon]

Yes please

[minor sage]

Do you think $100-$150 in a year? For having a T1?

I mean by selling fuel and stuff like that 😩 ?

[flat steeple]

Just throwing random numbers lol

[minor sage]

So now can i ask you how many do you think you can earn selling fuel?

[dusty agate]

None of us knows that :))

[little moon]

How do I become a ranger??!? Is there something special you need to do?

[vivid cipher]

Be active on the discord. You gain ranger role at level 5. You can check your !rank in #👑〕bot-commands

[jagged rune]

I'm thinking the same thing. Like I want to use as much of my fuel as possible then maybe sell if I have extra.

[static kayak]

Please focus alpha illuvium zero for blueprinft becaure after land sale not have event for engagement holder.

[tardy sail]

Once a ranger, you’ll discover the hidden channels! 🫣🤩😅

[lethal thunder]

How to become a ranger?

[harsh dew]

Talk with people on discord

[drifting phoenix]

In alpha illuvium zero for a T1 land if i want focus on blueprint , which elements might be the most used one for bluprint ? for example if you get only two elements in T1 which ones are good to have out of these three Lake, Outcrop and Crystal Deposit .

have all 3 elements are better , i am looking for the next best option since balanced elements T1 are getting expensive compare to floor price

[nimble lichen]

I think all elements are going to be important and it's going to be more a matter of how much more time does it take you to convert one element to another element if you don't have a trench of that... and how annoying does that become to you...

alternatively you get two pieces of land that compliment the others weaknesses because I think it's been decided that we can share between our own land.. for more cost in time and fuel I think

[stiff talon]

Yeah but I think there will be slippage. Probably more ideal to have a balanced land.

[nimble lichen]

absolutely, I think he was making the scenario of the less idea unbalanced land

[stiff talon]

Fair! As far as I know there will be slippage but in the case of not having a second land to leverage off there will be a market building you can make where you can trade elements but obviously at a cost. So either or there is a way to obtain other elements if you don't have them on your land and who knows it maybe advantageous to have 3 of the same elements in a tier 1. Just gonna have to wait and see!

[upper gust]

Just won some land!!!! expect its tier 1 but still super hyped!!!

[mystic umbra]

Congrats

[little moon]

Congrats!

[drifting phoenix]

Thanks

[drifting phoenix]

Thanks

[drifting phoenix]

Congrats!

[nimble lichen]

I think there will certainly be scenarios when you are fabricating or building something where it would be an advantage to have much more of one element and one of them wouldn't matter much at all.

[half turtle]

so how exactly will it work??
when I produce fuel, can I immediately sell it into the pool at market rates (adjusted for saturation & demand), or will it remain in an order book until filled(with adjustable rates) and payed out later?

[drifting phoenix]

Yes definitely I agree. Very excited to try various strategies

[nimble lichen]

@viscid solar was mentioning this ExoMiner the other night which opened my mind up to some ideas they might be trying. #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[drifting phoenix]

have you played that game?

[thorny crater]

I can’t find what fuel does what in the pinned medium article.

I know I saw it some where.

We really need to make a one stop guide. I have multiple sites to find info/it’s scattered in different pinned areas

[primal wagon]

Crypton is the Green colored fuel type that is used to power the obelisks in the overworld. You won't be able to travel to a different obelisk to catch T1-T5 illuvials without it!

Hyperion is the rainbow colored fuel type that is used to cure shards in the overworld. Shards with a tiers 1 to 5 will require Hyperion to be cured. but they are worth it, because the capture rates of Illuvials will increase with higher tiered shards!

Solon is the golden colored fuel type that can be used to forge and upgrade equipment!

[thorny crater]

Where can I find this? The info seems scattered

[primal wagon]

illuvium . fandom . com (links aren't allowed on here)

I agree its a bit scattered but my guess is nothing is 100% so they don't want to put out too many specifics. Like the 1st pin GDD doc has the fuels doing different things. but what's on the fandom site is up to date from what i know.

[grizzled ice]

Hi Guys, do you think Land price Is a bit hyped actually? Also After eth drop lands still costs all day more cash. Not sure of Is good buy at this price..

[primal wagon]

might not get a very unbiased opinion here. i think most of us are on the hype train

i think it might go down but I doubt it would be a quick drop. but the liquidity is low atm (not many sales in a day)

[leaden elbow]

Has illuvium zero been released for mobile?

[empty path]

No

[primal wagon]

no alpha soonish

[leaden elbow]

Cheers Fraggy :)

[grizzled ice]

Yeah Sales seems dropping all day more, probably cuz the price Is not legit.. but people still buy anyway and Sellers still put lands at almost 0.05 eth more per day

[coarse wave]

I think the prices are too low for the value we can potentially earn

[leaden elbow]

I think land is still cheap actually.. I have tons and not even interested in selling

[coarse wave]

its gonna be something like GoG couple of months from now..

[primal wagon]

i think the less then 13% on the market means people are not intested in selling at these prices and most are in it for longer term

[leaden elbow]

I am in it for long term for sure. I mean 1x piece of axie land alone went for over 2mil. I believe in ILV to be so much better long term compared to axie so I believe land to be a solid clever investment

The estimations we are getting is that ROI on land, even T1 is it will minimum pay itself back in 1 year.. that's truly a good investment even for professionals. Now just need to understand if those estimations are correct

[grizzled ice]

That's true, but gain almost 0.5x in less than a week scared me a bit 😄

[coarse wave]

yup. and so far everyone is selling above initial investment if they bought during mint.

[leaden elbow]

I think that's due to supply demand curve. Not much supply publicly and demand is simply higher so people can put whatever price they want, then it's up to buyer to decide if he's okay with paying that or not. That's the definition of agreement of pay and value. A 10$ note is simply paper until both parties decide is it worth that

[primal wagon]

It looks like people are selling for less then mint to me for T1. but maybe that is not including SLV2 discount

[coarse wave]

hmmm i used SLV2 to buy at a discount so that might be why

[grizzled ice]

For t2 lands do u think Is Better have all elements and only 2 fuel or all fuel and miss 1 elements? If i have to choise and i can't get a balanced Land?

[primal wagon]

i think you will get roughly the same from fuel or i think that is what they hope the demand will be equal for each fuel so the price will be close

Crypton is assumed to be in more demand to begin with

[grizzled ice]

I Also see people Say crypton Will be more profitable, but all depends of how many time a player have to travel, and how many player grind on this game.. im not sure all players Will go for catch High tier illuvials.. and maybe only Who grind for and High rank on competitive Will use a lot of it

[gusty fractal]

crypton = one travel
hyperion = several shards captures in one travel

do the maths
^^

[zealous willow]

Do we know how big of a boost landmarks will give?

[lethal thunder]

They said it’s 10% boost

[ivory fjord]

we know converting will result in some loss of resource, but we dont know how much. but having all elements and fuel is deff good in T2

[unkempt bronze]

I think the lands are very cheap considering our earning potential. My guess is the next set of land sales will sell for much much more than this first set.

[primal wagon]

I'm planning for .5X ROI (low from what others are saying) on the first year in fuel sales. but even if that is the case then the land will be worth way more after that first year.

[ivory fjord]

when yall think they would do the next land sale? they will need to atleast double in revenue each time they add 20K more land into the mix.

[unkempt bronze]

Hopefully they give us a year after launch before the next set of lands go on sale, well thats my greedy thought 😂

[winged tinsel]

what was the average price per land rarity type during the sale?

[hazy jewel]

0.42 1.2 4.1 18 but you have the chance to pay with silv2 ( buying silv2 on unofficial pool was around $180 but is value was around $250 for buying purposes )

[winged tinsel]

thanks

[little moon]

could even be more than a year (or 18 mos or 2 yr even); there must be a massive demand for fuels first before they should run another land sale; there’ll be unnecessary inflation when fuel demand is lesser than what are actually produced

[fluid eagle]

Are there any news and when we can play zero? Originally i read something like 1 moth after land sale. so we should be really close now...

[empty path]

That was no official date and a bit of bad communication. Once the launch date is known, it will be posted in #📣〕announcements

[fluid eagle]

can you give a time frame?

[empty path]

No

[fluid eagle]

I hope it won't take as long as Star Citizen....

[dire tiger]

I love how you phrase the answer XD

[empty path]

I quite some time to train for it

[ivory fjord]

do rangers automatically get access to the current beta?

[empty path]

No, you still have to apply for the beta and wait for the next wave of invites

[ivory fjord]

ahh got it

and how does one become ranger

[fluid eagle]

I think LVL 5 get you ranger status

[ivory fjord]

cause i already applied for the beta and all

[dire tiger]

you need to engage in discord chat as you are doing now. No spamming though. you will get experience and lvl up. Once you reach lvl 5, you are ranger
you can check your rank/lvl in #👑〕bot-commands

[ivory fjord]

got it thanks

do i also need to be ranger to upload images?

[empty path]

Yes

[ivory fjord]

figured, been. trynna figure out how I can share my lands to get some rating on them 😐

[dire tiger]

you can share the coordinates 🙂

[ivory fjord]

789,273

my one and only T2 ^^

---

I think this T3 is the best I have
617,386

---

And this is the other T3
584,546

[dire tiger]

T2 is average I think.
The T3 on 617, 386, I like that it has everything.
The other one, I like that it has 4 crypton.
overall good

[ivory fjord]

I got 5 of each fuel sites across the 3 lands. I feel as long as we can share resources between our lands in some way or form. These should do good

feel like we will lose portion of it during transporting. maybe like 1-2% loss if in same region and then more like 5% loss if transporting to a different region

I hope not, but it makes sense this way

[dire tiger]

the % is not confirmed yet. But there will be transportation fee between lands own under the same wallet unless the lands are mega cities. (but since megacities are only for future development, I am not sure how the exemption of transportation fee for adjacent cities own by the same wallet will apply).

[sharp elk]

As far as I know, only mega cities share resources in that way.

[lapis gulch]

Well you will be able to do it by selling it for eth from 1 land plot and then using that eth from another land plot to buy it back. This will force you to pay fees. So even if there is an UI option to do this it would probably still do this in the back.

[thorn hinge]

didn‘t they say sthg about 10% loss when you want to convert fuel?

[rough stone]

Oh wow. I don’t really know how to use not stuff but just discovered I’m already rank 4. Probably nothing in the scheme of things but I’m stoked.

[ivory fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-blue-ranger-green-ranger-pink-ranger-black-ranger-gif-17588916

[copper falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/cnft-nft-wen-when-over-exposed-gif-24787226

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[strong pewter]

How/can you look up by coordinate or lot number?

[strong pewter]

What do you mean by rating?

[dire tiger]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/land-sale?statuses=sold&page=1&selectedLand=234_366
You just replace the last 6 coordinates numbers in the above link.

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/bigbrain-bigbrainactivity-thinking-mindblown-gif-24018998

[trim stream]

some people have put together ratings on plots based on resources, diversity of resources, location, proximity to other Tiers, etc.

[subtle frost]

When people buy land on illuvidex with Eth does that get distributed to REVDIS?

[strong pewter]

I believe 5% of the purchase price does, yes?

[subtle frost]

great

[iron panther]

And 100% from the initial land sale

[subtle frost]

I wonder how much eth have been process through Illuvidex. Can we see the numbers anywhere to keep track?

[thin wolf]

Close to 2900 eth

[thorny crater]

Seem like land is down 200 from where I bought…could have had almost 2 more plots 😩

[lost drift]

It is almost impossible to invest in any crypto project and not have a drawdown before making a profit. What you were expecting to happen had a chance of 0,1% of happening, dont worry.

[little moon]

iirc, the fees goes 100% to dao goes 100% to stakers; cause basically, dao is also part of stakers

[subtle frost]

In addition to the land sale ETh. 2,900 ETH was spent in the post land sale?

[thin wolf]

Yes thats correct

[dusty agate]

Theres little demand on land right now:( i listed mine under floor price and its still there

[subtle frost]

it is the bear market and land is not as liquid as token or coins or cash. I am sure if you listed it low enough someone will take it from you.

[dusty agate]

Yes there are still some people collecting them now, who can like wait for an year for bigger profit

I am just trying to swap T1 in T2

[subtle frost]

I am down huge on crypto anyways. I am not waiting on that money for my daily survival. It is just assumed to be zero. so yeah it is good to just hold

I think in this market, selling and buying can result in big gains, but also big losses, but what is guarantee is if you keep buying you will have more of that token or land or if you just hold you will still have that 1 land. It depends what kind of gambler you are.

[dusty agate]

I am not gambling with crypto just waiting game to have fun and i thought T1 will be enough to enjoy it free. And yeh i have some experience in trades as i am selling furniture supplies last 15 years thats my real job… and think theres no guarantees you get profit in any business as nothing is stable and u cant make long term plans

[dusty agate]

Invested in crypto only once before that, somewhere 4 years ago into ripple as i was told it will pump like BtC, and i was down 10X next week 😂😂

[strong pewter]

What’s your land? I’ll buy it.

[dusty agate]

I listed it in USDC, think u can find some cheaper with eth

[solar topaz]

You cannot list under floor. You can only be the floor. 😉

[wary notch]

It's not floor then

[dusty agate]

Sorry for my english :))

[solar topaz]

That's not your English - I meant if you go under the floor, then you effectively become the new floor.

[dusty agate]

Think the currency and region matters as well

[dusty agate]

Yeh i was just trying to say that i listed it cheaper then someone had before😂

[solar topaz]

I have seen that the floor has risen a tiny bit. I did not expect large price jumps after the auction because of the Dutch Auction format. What we see now is maybe in part due to cryptos having crashed. In dollar terms land is now cheaper than at the sale. But then again: many people calculate in ETH and in this specific caase many calculate in sILV2 - like me. I am still heavily overinvested in Illuvium due to several reasons, so I would not buy land for ETH, even if I think it is fairly priced. Has something to do with overall portfolio balancing...

[dusty agate]

Hi 🙂 hope u add some land after 113 purchases

[solar topaz]

So I would not worry too much (unless you believe ETH will go way lower and stay there). My personal opinion is that we need to give the whole thing time.

[dusty agate]

I am thinking to get back my money back and then reinvest :))

[solar topaz]

113? geez... I assume that is not all for personal use?

[solar topaz]

ok. Every time I tried that, I ended up with a net loss due to bad market timing... 😅

[dusty agate]

🤷‍♂️ maybe he will give me a job 😂

[solar topaz]

ah, I see. The notorious "scholarship" model?

[dusty agate]

Yep but think land not gonna get more expansive soon

[solar topaz]

I first want to see how much we can really make with it. It is not completely absurd imo that we see at least in the beginning a lot of people who play with sILV2 instead of fuel...

[dusty agate]

I dont think T1 land can produce enough fuel to sell, i think i will need more for me to play overworld. So IMO only owners of T4 T3 and megacities will be able to sell fuel

[solar topaz]

depending on how much time you have to play...

[dusty agate]

I can play 24/7

[thorny crater]

Not here to sell, I just wanted more land haha

24/8 🤪

[oak ruin]

can´t wait to build my 2x2 city... T4, T3 and 2T2

[noble drum]

i think the illuvitar sale will bring in more buyers, and the T5 auction marketing and news breaks of the massive sale amount will also drive demand for land. i think now is the "quiet" time. eveyone who knows the game well has gotten their land. its the new people who learn about the game over the next 6 months that will drive the price of these lands up. we the owners now have done all the math of fuel costs and land values, but the new people will most likely not have that sort of math done out. and they will just want to get into this cool new game they just heard about that looks amazing. and these new people will drive prices up. jmho

plus us land owners (for the most part i think) dont want to sell our land. we want to keep it forever. so supply will keep drying up as the people who bought to flip eventually sell off their land for their profit, and the rest of us hold tight to everything

[hearty rain]

I agree and let’s be real. There’s only 20k plots now. Unlike big time work tho like 160000 out already

[dusty agate]

Agree, i need to get some better or new plots before price go up

[noble drum]

any word on 4x4 megacities? i have heard 2x2 and 3x3. Are they capping at 3x3 or will they allow bigger?

[kindred kettle]

won as in the giveaway?

[barren barn]

Any news on when zero is gonna be released?

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[barren barn]

Guess more info after the 1st

[kindred kettle]

I think the currently all they've mentioned are 2x2 and 3x3, but nothing set in stone yet afaik

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/proud-ron-swanson-nick-offerman-parks-and-rec-so-proud-of-you-gif-4531083

[kindred kettle]

do correct me if I'm wrong though, but either way my plan to even get 2x2 didn't go as well as I imagined and whoever bought the plots surrounding my plot doesn't even put it up for sale

[thin wolf]

Learnt from the best:-)

[kindred kettle]

o well, here'r hoping that the bid/offer feature will be implemented soon 😄

[empty path]

Waiting on IMX for that

[thin wolf]

Arash is the best teacher.

[empty path]

He used to be

[thin wolf]

Did you end him?

[empty path]

Don't see him a lot here anymore

[true chasm]

Megacities are still being iterated upon in design. We'll announce more when it's finalized.

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/atlas-ilv-illuvium-wen-gif-25573912

Sorry Ben, love you

[thin wolf]

Ben,could you turn Bidding on with your Admin computer?

[true chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-bunny-no-nope-nou-gif-14651222

[kindred kettle]

:D:D:D

[true chasm]

to both 😄

[empty path]

I believe we gotta bully @misty orbit to speed that up

And also, wen IZ marketing?

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/on-it-zoeys-playlist-tobin-i-got-it-i-got-this-gif-21167509

[kindred kettle]

would love to know how crazy it gets once that feature has been implemented (i,e. bid/offer)

[thin wolf]

@misty orbit hey Buddy,how are things?
If you had to guess an excact time Bidding will be implemented,when do you think that would be?

[empty path]

Oooh I'm sorry Ryan

[thin wolf]

Iam just doing what iam told.

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/marge-simpson-the-simpsons-shy-shame-ashame-gif-16916873

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/atg-capa-stucapa-studiocapa-pandu-gif-24944581

[dim nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

why my gif does display correctly

[empty path]

You have to be discord rank 5 first to post gifs

[grizzled ice]

Nice to know After be mad at trying 🤣

[dim nebula]

soga lv up up up

Dose Zero release date has been set

[empty path]

No

[dim nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[crude willow]

In theory, from 6 to 8 weeks from sale

[hearty rain]

How much time will each piece of land take to manage? each day

[primal wagon]

estimated to be like 20-30mins

[hearty rain]

Gotcha thanks. Do you know if tier matters?

[primal wagon]

they didnt say, but my guess is if you have higher tier you would have more to do since you have more resources

[crude willow]

20-30 for each land?

[hearty rain]

yes

[crude willow]

ahia

[noble drum]

which is why there may be more fuel revenue than people think because there will prob be lots of idle lands not producing because people who bought so many cant actually harvest and upgrade them because they wont have any time

[noble drum]

there are 6000 owners for 20000 lands. the top 100 owners own 4600 lands. with anywhere from 17-260 lands each. there is no way they will be working these lands. which means that at least 25-50% of these lands will be idle. so more revenue for everyone else

[primal wagon]

thats nutty. until renting is implemented

[noble drum]

true

[keen river]

if my land doesn't have hydrogen, how am I'm able to build anything when the beta starts for illuvium zero? The converter also needs hydrogen to be built, no?

[noble drum]

i beileve you will buy it or trade for it. there will be some sort of element marketplace i would think

[keen river]

there is also a marketplace building which needs hydrogen 😄

[noble drum]

ill send you some 😆

[keen river]

I really hope there is some functionality to send elements between lands even though there are not in a city, I don't care if with a loss

[hearty rain]

Yeah I wonder if you as the owner end up getting the resources to use for any of the lands.

[little moon]

You can claim a small airdrop of all 3 elements daily from your nexus. It’s to prevent people from getting stuck if they don’t have a particular resource available. Plus I assume you will start with an amount of all 3 elements to get started building. It would probably be wise to prioritize a converter right off the start so you have access to any resources you might need.

[noble drum]

thats right. i had forgot that your base building produces resources at a very slow trickle.

anyone have any thoughts on if a 2x2 (T3, T3, T3, T1) megcity is any better than a single T4? they both produce about the equivilent of 37 fuel (if you account for the Tier boost and landmark) Buy my math they would cost about the same (around 15 Eth). So if price and fuel output are the same, then whats better, having all that in a single plot or having it spread accross 4? thoughts?

[hearty rain]

Im guessing tier 4 takes less time to manage but thats me just guessing.

[thin wolf]

https://twitter.com/Illuviumlands/status/1540065019953643523?s=20&t=R5lv_nTuGlK2vG60BAKEOw worth it

Illuvium Lands Bot ♊️ (@Illuviumlands)

Dear illuvium hodlers,

I tweet recent land sales for #illuvium zero, please help me pay for server costs and keep myself running by donating some ETH below:

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If any data is wrong, it's probably not my fault!

Twitter · Jun 23, 2022, 8:11 PM

[white cedar]

@thin wolfwho runs that bot?

I tried to give them a TT ref link so they can at least make some money off people following links

[thin wolf]

its maintained by @tardy sail

[near berry]

done

[white cedar]

@thin wolfthanks

[severe oracle]

The major diff that comes to mind is that you can have a singularity scanner on each plot. So 4x the chance to get blueprints compared to a single plot.

[white cedar]

@tardy sail sent you a friend req

[crude willow]

And it is a very good value

[noble drum]

great point

[white cedar]

On a separate note we just pushed a beta version of Market Stats out for Illuvium on TokenTrove. It allows you to see the price charts of historical sales but grouped by filter. You can now see things like the average price of all T1s sold over time, etc:

[noble drum]

anywhere we can see number of addresses holding each amount of land? like how many addresses hold 1 land, how many hold 2, 5 10 etc?

[white cedar]

@noble drumnot currently, but that is a pretty easy thing for us to calculate. I can add that to the list for next features to add to stats

[noble drum]

awesome. and great job on the Market Stats. didnt mean to completely overlook that. great work what you guys have done so far

[white cedar]

@noble drumhaha no, complaints/feature suggests are how we improve and become the community recommended marketplace! That is always our primary goal

[floral locust]

We need to see what the mega city mechanics/advantages are to give a good answer

[noble drum]

could you also add to your Market Stats the ave (or low) daily "floor." I assume that ave price you are showing is the sale price. so people paying huge amounts to complete their megacity may skew that ave daily price. so seeing a floor trend would be nice

@white cedar and floor by tier if that wasnt obivous

[white cedar]

@noble drumi can add that to the list too, but that will be farther away, it's basically duplicating a bunch of data in its current state

[tardy sail]

Accepted 😎

[grizzled ice]

That sooo good 🥳

[grizzled ice]

Is a really good start, but probably miss some filter for elements and feul, and It Will be perfect 👌

[strong pewter]

Me too, if that’s all right

[tender gulch]

question guys. is this illuvium zero only can be play if we have a land? so people who dont have a land cant play it?

[misty orbit]

Honestly not too across the bidding ETA things as that's more platform related, and even if i were to know, probably not my place to be giving a public response to that unfortunately

All i can say is though that the team is actively working towards bringing the feature to life, we are well aware that its being heavily demanded

[misty orbit]

you should be

[little moon]

There will be a free version but you can’t earn anything from it just for fun.

[tender gulch]

So people who can earn from it only people who bought the land right?

[tender gulch]

and other who not bought it. they can play for free except they cant earn anything from it

[little moon]

Yup

[tulip perch]

you will get airdropped resources into your nexus building everyday is my understanding .....it may take a while

[rustic magnet]

When will illuvium zero be out?

[mystic umbra]

I’m surprised no one has asked this yet. That is a crazy question. I don’t think anyone here has actually thought about that

[hollow shoal]

There is free land which is T2. You will be able to play that for free but earn nothing.

[harsh acorn]

I read that as t2 land was free lol https://tenor.com/view/i-got-ripped-off-eric-cartman-stan-marsh-south-park-what-a-ripoff-gif-22242938

[hearty cradle]

T0 = T4

[drifting phoenix]

i think they updated now T0 = T2

[strong pewter]

So , why buy T1’s?

[drifting phoenix]

T0 is a free version , you can’t earn anything from it .

T0 = T2 means the T0 land will have same one as T2 resources 6 elements and 3 fuel sites. You can play the game for free without buying any land to try it . That is my understanding

[hearty cradle]

where

[past zodiac]

read here: https://medium.com/illuvium/51-land-sale-explained-8cbadfb6a6b5

[kindred kettle]

Did the team give any time frame as to when they are looking to finalize this?

[floral locust]

still being worked on #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[hearty cradle]

got it, you are right

[wary notch]

They first said 3 - 4 weeks after land sale, but then pushed it to 4 - 8 weeks after land sale, it's now around 3 weeks from land sale, so it doesn't get postponed again we could be getting it in 1-5 weeks

[grizzled ice]

It's been 84 years... 🧓🏻🚢

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculate-confusing-figure-out-gif-6237717

[grizzled ice]

Sadly i can't send gif already 😭

[empty path]

Soon

[woeful narwhal]

https://c.tenor.com/2jOc_rjmd10AAAAM/titanic-longtime.gif

[timber sapphire]

That was never confirmed too so just expect "soon"

Until announcement

[rough stone]

Keeping our eyes on those announcements then.

[compact nebula]

Any1 know what is the T2 floor currently?

[empty path]

I believe 1.27

[noble drum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK-jtBDDWIY
I was assuming that megacities only got the landmark boost shared by all the lands. (so just 10% to element or fuel on other sites) but in this video, Kieran says that T1s linked with a T4 would get the 300% boost of the T4, making the T1s have 3 fuel outputs instead of the 1. Is that really how it is planned to go? that is waaaaay different than simply sharing a landmark

[hearty cradle]

he lied

[noble drum]

has there been any newer post or interviews from Keiran that comment on this again? I mean if this was true then it actually makes NON-megacities much less valuable.

[hearty cradle]

he misspoke
only landmark bonus shared

[little moon]

has there been any indication how much one would spend fully upgrading all buildings to max efficency yet?

[mystic umbra]

We’ll just have to wait and find out

[umbral hull]

People have speculated 2-6 months. But as figment said, no one actually knows.

[oak solstice]

Volkin said in his YT video yesterday he is doing an interview with Kieran next week so maybe it gets asked then. If schedules align.

[muted valve]

People diamond handing land. Love to see it

Whatchya think my 2 tier 3’s

Halcyon Sea and Taiga Boreal

[floral locust]

pretty sweet!

[keen river]

How can I see who my neighbours are in terms of plot location?

[noble drum]

best you can do is find their wallet address either through the illuvadex or immutascan

[harsh acorn]

Would be sweet if we could name our land plot(s) besides seeing a wallet address. It could show up on the illuvidex that way and make it easier to search for others land. I'd name my land in crystal shores Slappin Town. It would be amazing to somehow be able to peak over your neighbors fence and see what building they are up to.

[noble drum]

you could name your wallet address by registering an ENS domain

[harsh acorn]

True that, I'm just not sure If I want my wallet address to be Slappin Town lol

[white cedar]

Crystal shores appears to be the most valuable, but only by a little. Any real reason for that?

[hearty cradle]

because it has every affinity but nature

[noble drum]

depends on exactly what you're slappin over there....

[harsh acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/slapping-the-bass-all-about-that-slap-bassist-rock-gif-14983452

[tight kestrel]

because its beautiful

[trim stream]

lots of hype around that penguin line, Slappin

[small star]

Exactly why I got my t4 there 👌🏻

• the fact the région design is crazy good

(But I’m still waiting for the medium article for 3-4 weeks now 🤷🏻‍♂️)

[noble drum]

if in the future we resell a land, i would assume that the buildings on that land would remain (yes/no)?

[floral locust]

yes

[noble drum]

i wonder if that is something to concider if anyone has a mega city. if they ever sold off a piece of land, the buildings on that land might be completely unbalanced because they were previously able to use the other structures of the mega city

or maybe if you made a megacity you are never able to break it up into smaller lands again..... hmmm

[small star]

Buyer of this plot would just need to move building around and done

[faint rapids]

30 june is the release date of illuvium zéro right ?

[dusky ledge]

negatory ghost rider

[faint rapids]

We all know that Kieran surprise is that to counter ilv dump

[hearty cradle]

yea
i dnt think the team has figured out what to do with it

• keep smaller NFTs, and merge the city on the server side, problem when you dissemble you need to rebuild shared structures
• burn smaller NFTs, and mint a MC NFT

[small star]

September, maybe august

[proud laurel]

hey- everyone....so a couple weeks ago i posted about trying to acquire a T1 someone else had so i that i can get my 3x3 ....but he wanted 4.2 ETH for it ....after waiting some time, we finally came to an agreement and im happy to say i got my city~! 🎉 🎉 🎉

[empty path]

Congratz

[proper storm]

I presume they'll need to break certain buildings to make space for the required buildings

[proper storm]

what did u end up paying?

[steady ore]

wen revdis from land sale?

[proud laurel]

1 ETH - in crimson waste 🙂

[proper storm]

seems like a pretty good deal

[proud laurel]

yeah im not mad about it - i woulda had to sell my other plots if we didnt come to an agreement

[grizzled ice]

Great u get the deal then 😄 Imagine have to sell all cuz u can't buy 1 🙅

[proud laurel]

haha i wouldnt sell all but i would have sold 4 of them and still keep a 2x2

just curious but what would you guys say the value of a 3x3 would be in crimson waste? ball park

[noble drum]

What’s the tiers count

[grizzled ice]

You dont have to think more about It 💪🏻

[near berry]

Map for land sale on Illuvidex broken for anyone else?

[harsh acorn]

its working for me. try clearing your browser cache and cookies and restarting your browser

[hazy jewel]

I can’t tell you but depend on how many t3/t4

[proud laurel]

1 t3 - 3 t2 and 5 t1's

not looking to sell it but just genuinely curious on ballpsrk what someone would value it at

[hazy jewel]

Personal evaluation: I pretend that majority of pp used sILV2: average price for your plots is around 11 eth. I would consider a full 10% extra for the effort of completing a megacity so@if you paid everything with sILV2 I would suggest something around 12/13 eth today. Ofc with eth at 1k I would never sell anyway

[noble drum]

because the tiers are so low, id say prob 15 Eth. which makes sense because a T4 goes for 15 Eth and has more fuel output than your 3x3 combined. Even so, having a 3x3 MC is just flashy, so even with your MC outputting less than a T4 i think it could still go for the floor price of a T4 just because its a MC. Thats just my opinion. maybe you could get way more.

[near berry]

hmmm, still not working 🧐

[harsh acorn]

my wallet is not connected possibly it might have to do with that. Let me try connecting

[proud laurel]

yeah i was thinking higher personally simply for the fact that you're just not gonna be able to get a 3x3 especially in crimson waste but i do agree on the from the fuel output aspect

[dire pier]

You'll be happy with all the stuff you can fit into it. 3x3 is a lot of space

[harsh acorn]

Still works with my wallet connected. What are you seeing?

[near berry]

I see the map, but not the land plots

Tried it with wallet connect and disconnected

[harsh acorn]

oh I see, make sure you go into the filter section and select all the tiers you want to see

[near berry]

Dang, sweet! Idk why, but it was filtered to only show T5s 😄 Thank you! 👍

[ivory fjord]

were you up the whole time? getting the timing down for 9 plots altogether.

how much higher above the floor you ended up paying due to the fear of getting sniped?

[lethal thunder]

Zoom in

[near berry]

Thanks, already solved. T5 is set as default; that was/is the problem 😉

[grizzled ice]

Hot same problema Yesterday.. the i Remember about zoom 🤣

[proud laurel]

lol yes....it was a rough 3 days

[acoustic igloo]

Who do I talk to here to buy a T5 Land 😎 🐳

[pale bough]

what do you want ? tell me

[acoustic igloo]

lol I am kidding dude... I am not a whale . i can barely afford T2

[pale bough]

You still grabbed something really nice !

[wild mural]

sorry it's so heavy today, but i just arrived after 10 months abroad, is there a date for illuvium Zero?

[primal wagon]

maybe a month or 2 for alpha

[grizzled ice]

Not later 2024 for sure

[hollow shoal]

What is considered a whale? Amount of land or the value of the land? Combination of both?

[teal mural]

Most likely sometime in August

[vivid cipher]

Would be total value of land I’d guess. It will take only 1 tier 5 land to be labeled a whale. But for all others it will take more than that.

[hollow shoal]

Very true haha

[wild mural]

ty mate

[jagged rune]

I remember hearing once the rough amount of time in a day it will take to manage your land efficiently. Does anyone remember hearing this?

[mystic umbra]

Johnny talked about in a polemos interview I believe it was 30 minutes

[jagged rune]

Thanks!

[mystic umbra]

But he said if you are really soeedrunning it you’ll be able to get the time down over time

[jagged rune]

I wonder if that's managing 1 land.

[primal wagon]

Yeah 15-30min per land per day he said in that interview

[jagged rune]

Solid. Perfect for my morning cup of coffee haha

[flat steeple]

Can’t wait till we get some Illuvium Zero leaks

[dire pier]

Definitely need multitabling

[half briar]

is there a guesstimate for beta zero?

[drifting phoenix]

My guess is for august for Alpha Zero which is 2 month from landsale

[noble drum]

But it’s prob more like 5 mins 6 times a day because there will be periods you must wait. So don’t think it’s just 30 mins once every 24 hours

[deep granite]

Hey yall. I really feel like the T1 lands with 1 of each resource will be high in demand. I assume they would be the most efficient. And most people wanting to experiment with land will go for a T1 seeing they’re the cheapest

[primal wagon]

most of those are a few hundred above floor

[deep granite]

Yeah seems like the best ones to snipe imo

[primal wagon]

180,342 is the only deep discount right now 🙂

[glass mauve]

Can someone tell me when we can actually use/play the land we purchased?

[kindred kettle]

does anyone having problems with viewing map in illuvidex or is this a known issue?

[primal wagon]

might be your filter?

[floral locust]

no official date, I'm personally guessing early Aug

[kindred kettle]

100% correct feels like an idiot 😄

[primal wagon]

I wonder if gas fees will need to be taken into consideration when cashing in fuel for ETH

[static kayak]

next month do you have update about illuvium zero ?

[thin wolf]

My guess end of july

2023

[hollow shoal]

Next Thursday

[hearty cradle]

In 5 days

[grizzled ice]

How can you Say that? I miss some announcment/news? 🤔

[small star]

+/- 2 months

[hearty cradle]

Announced
#📣〕announcements message

Q2 release of Illuvium : Overworld and Arena

[sly summit]

Confirmed

[crude willow]

Nice, in this way it is better, the only problem is for who has a big number of lands

[crude willow]

Same idea, probably end of July or early August

[left musk]

@hearty cradle is right cause they didnt make an announcement

[wild mural]

i think august mayb

[keen river]

should I buy another t1 which complements my ressources? I kinda don't have the funds for a t2 at the moment :/

[thin wolf]

When iam at the pistol range i aim for the middle,sometimes i get it sometimes i don't, but the underlying attempt is always in the middle.

[crude willow]

2023 or 2024?

[mystic umbra]

Fuck it 2025

[wild mural]

2030 muahahhaha

[crude willow]

Ahahahahah I'm going to cry

[tulip perch]

I think we have a bot in general

[dusky ledge]

naah, we gucci

[trail frigate]

Do you have 61 lands by chance? 👀

[viscid solar]

Multiple phones

[spark ruin]

any news on the release date?

[empty path]

All official dates will be posted in #📣〕announcements once they are set

[crude willow]

Wtf?

You can pay someome to farm your lands

[oak ruin]

my 4 lands will become 1 2x2 city. that should make them good to manage by playing ILVZ

[ivory badger]

i bought plots in different regions , was trying for blue prints from all regions

[strong pewter]

Me too

Don’t know if that was a mistake. I feel like I should have focused on megacity potential

[ivory badger]

I managed to get four regions , I only had 16.5 sILV2 to use , I want to pick up more once I save more money

mega city would be nice but my funds don't allow getting any tier4 lands they are just to much for me to afford

I still have to choose between getting more lands or buying Illuvitars

[grizzled ice]

hard decision without info on illuvitars. i'm in the same spot

[weary spindle]

Do we know when Illuvium Zero will be launched? With aproximation of course

[empty path]

No

[radiant sky]

When there is a fix date, you can see it in the announcement section

[ivory badger]

I was expecting lands to drop a bit , but they seem to being staying the same

[reef jasper]

I've completed my region set 🙌 got a T1 in all regions

Gotta catch em all, amiright? 😅

[sly summit]

No paper hands holding land i guess

[floral locust]

congrats!

[ivory badger]

I was counting on those paper hands and here they went and turned diamond on me

just can't trust anyone hehehehhe

I have been eyeballing a nice tier1 land just got to save up more USD

[kindred kettle]

Would be interesting to see how the different strategy works out (i.e. single plot in multiple regions or megacities) once everything has been finalized

couldn't wait to experience the actual gameplay for both ILZ and main game

[drifting phoenix]

congrats

[reef jasper]

I think plots in all regions strat is better for blueprints as far as diversity goes and megacity better for fuel/resources. I went with the all regions up front because we will only be able to keep blueprints we find. Once fuel markets become a thing, I may look into switching it up

[primal wagon]

is the thought that the land will fill in with plots as we have more land sales? just wondering if a plot on the edge might be cheap now but close to a potential mega city next land sale.

[reef jasper]

yes, there are still 80,000 plots left that will be a part of other future land sales

[flint shoal]

When next sale? Any info?

sad

but not disaster 🙂

[nimble lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/block-owls-block-owl-wen-nft-cnft-gif-24843153

[broken roost]

i've heard probably next year next badge

[drifting phoenix]

I think mostly after full game release. no official info yet.

[autumn ridge]

The t2 land I got has 4 hyrdogen 2 carbon 2 fuel and 1 Hyperion I feel like that’s pretty decent compared to what I’ve seen some get what do you guys think? I’ll have to convert some hydrogen to crystal for sure though

[harsh acorn]

What does two fuel mean is that crypton?

[drifting phoenix]

if you have 2 crypton and 1 Hyperion this land is the best for fuel game play , if you game plan is for blue prints it is better to have solan fuel and more silicon element

[autumn ridge]

yea i meant crypton and thanks

[mystic umbra]

!scam

[dry forge]

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[charred shoal]

Thank you for the info

[teal mural]

So a T3 crystal shore is 10k

[drifting phoenix]

are you talking about T3 crystal shore floor price ? what is see the floor price is around 8K

[teal mural]

I was looking at illuvium DEX are you looking at IMX?

[drifting phoenix]

yes tokentrove

[teal mural]

Ok good crystal shore price is looking nice

[little moon]

Good for you haha all t1’s? Or you throw some higher ones in there as well

[drifting phoenix]

I am curious how are you planning to manage before renting system is released ?

[little moon]

Send me a contract via email and then send the land I’ll take care of it for you 😉 we can negotiate the cost

[oak topaz]

Will the alpha/beta be on iOS?

[charred shoal]

but it's not allowed to let children work...

[drifting phoenix]

You have good collection . do you formed multiple mega cites ?

[hearty cradle]

Megacity?