🎮〕illuvium-zero

[radiant sky]

According to info gathered by community members, there are several data missing at the moment. (Patch 1.1.4)

Biodata that can't be found for now:

• squid line (Squizz, Octius, Ophisto)
• lynx lines (All T2 Illvuials (31 BD all together))
• mahmoth line (Mah'mu, Mah'tu, Mah'mut)
• Fennec fox line (Winq, Quinx, Ghazotep)
• Moth line (Ace, Artace, Monarch)
• Kangaroo line (Ti'ru, Tii'ruo, Tibi'Rukko )
• Dropbear line (Chucco, Chukoorl, Chukoondi)
• Red Panda line (Rai, Rai-Lu, Rai-Lee)

Blueprints that can't be found for now:
~~- Hilde

• Chopin~~

Please note, this is not an official statement!
This is just info gathered by community members, by playing the Game Illuvium:Zero

[barren barn]

I have a few BP from Lynxssss

[radiant sky]

Me2... But all of them from before latest patch.
Did you get any in this patch?

[mortal mural]

I haven’t got any lynxes since the patch

Got a few before the patch so I’m researching them

[prisma trout]

I would very much like to see the plants give coins again. Is that even a consideration? It's so very frustrating to only be able to do 2 things that take hours to finish, i.e. updating storage units because the plants keep me full. The worker I bought disappeared & now I have to sign in every time I close the game & go back in. Is this normal now?

[twin sequoia]

I don´t think plant will give coins again, that was only to speed up things in alpha. The coins are for the account, so they are shared between all plots but the workers are for each plot and they get reseted after selling the land.

Do you play on mobile? Don´t sign out of the game, just close it. It ask me for sign in with the email code every .... several weeks, I don´t know. On PC I need to sign in more often if I don´t sign before in the profile account in the browser

[solar swallow]

Good to see, I was missing mostly Ophisto

[barren barn]

That is a good question. I may have not in the past couple of weeks

[prisma trout]

@twin sequoia
Thank you. I don't sign out and yes I'm on mobile. I thought it was a patch or maybe a glitch.
It's a shame the coins are gone. It would be a nice surprise to see them come back...lol

[twin sequoia]

Some improvements in the profile ... you can select mints, will it be a signal?

[tardy falcon]

Minting and mega cities should be coming soon

I hear they are inn testing phase

[lyric hamlet]

T3's are selling for $700

Im never getting my money back am i?

Definition of a failed project

[tardy falcon]

Dollar cost average XD

Land is dependent on the whole game's success... I plan to see things through
I don't see Illuvium as a failed project at all... I see it as a growing project that is learning and adapting

[cobalt monolith]

I want to buy my first T1 land, I just did not know If every T1 is the same or if there is something good to look for, im hard headed , would rather build and learn on my own Land than f2p

[oak ruin]

Did they forget about megacities??

[verbal igloo]

We did not forget about megacities, bp minting or many of the community requests and suggestions. We are planning for a mega patch soon, so stay tuned.

[placid matrix]

hello all i hope you are fine 🙂 how many fuel produce a land t2 ?

[radiant sky]

• Layout of the sites
  there's a structure called scanner which has increased efficiency the less buildings are in his area (Area of effect=6 squares).
  So if you want to build many scanners you want your element/fuel sites being in one half of your land, ideally even in one corner, so you have enough space to build multiple high efficiency scanners. This also has the positive effect of being easier to push the efficiency of your extractors/converters, since they are close together and need less power stations.
  You also don't want to have the fuel site right AT an edge, so you can build 4 converters in it's range without negatively influencing each other

• Balancing of the sites
  In order to have it easier and quicker to build up your base, especially in the early game. You want in best case a balanced distribution of the elemen/fuel sites. For example 2x of each element site and 1x of each fuel site. You need to waste less space than having for example 1 element completely missing and you need to build converters to produce that element. (Converters need more space than an extractor and they produce less resources than an extractor)

• Landmark fitting your sites
  High tier plots (T3/T4/T5) have a unique landmark in the center of their landplot. This landmark has a bonus, which increases either element production of a specific element (T3), fuel production of a specific fuel (T4) or is a completely unique super special bonus with sponsorship purposes of tournaments (T5). So you want as many sites as possible fitting your landmark. (Note; Landmark bonuses will spread and stack in a Megacity)

• Location of the land
  Either yourself might want to build a megacity (MC), so you have to watch out for Landplots meeting all the other points mentioned in this post and being located in a square (2x2/3x3) of adjecant landplots, or another landowner might want to build a MC and wants to buy your land in order to complete the MC and pay you a premium price for buying your land.

• Region
  Every region has it's own Spawnrates if it comes to scanning for certain affinities. So depending on what affinity you like to focus on when researching Biodata for Blueprints, you might want to choose to have your land in that specific region.

[rotund forum]

Just filled out that excel of Panda Kr, turns out I am scanning for weeks for nothing already; I have all that are currently available (and even some that are currently not available). Of 130 possible biodata I have 93. Blueprints I have 88 in total (of a total possible of 2470), my winner is Ramphyre with 10 out of a possible 19. I have zero stage 5 armor, but stage 1 till 4 yes, so it makes me believe this might also not be available atm? Oh and all drones seem now to be available finally. I have Hilde and Chopin blueprints but somehow didn´t notice it before. Mainly aiming at T5S3 blueprints, of which I got 20 of 114 possible, so still a long way to go, just for those 🙈

the filled in excel

[radiant sky]

My guess is they just went super Hard on dropchance for the t5 armor BP, but surely could be missing... I didn't got one yet either

[rotund forum]

oh and 14 T2 (of 31... T2 is just weird), that is a lot more than I thought I had. But they are overlapping over plots

[rotund forum]

I hope that when they do launch the blueprints patch, they will fix all these problems of missing biodata and blueprints. Until that time no more scanning and more fuel, yeahhh going to be rich 🤪

[radiant sky]

@verbal igloo might be able to reveal if a biodata fix is included in that megapatch🙃

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/praise-amen-hands-up-girl-gif-17495671

[thorny crater]

I noticed my T2 gets way more BPs now than my T3....for example yesterday i got 2 BPs in a day on my T2 and my t3 is 1 every 1-3 weeks-ish

i wonder if the more you get the harder it is to get. is that a mech by chance or it could just coincidence?

well not t5s...just in genral. my bad should have been more clear

I got 1 t5 armor lol

REVO armor is my t5...on my t2 which does WAY less researching than my T3

[rotund forum]

so they exist but must be very very low droprate.

[rotund forum]

I was pretty much a steady line upwards, and when they nerfed it it was still a steady line but slower. The entire % thing that depends on the region, tbh I didn´t notice anything of that. I basically got the same on all regions. But then it just stopped, and now I understand why. Let´s hope they fix this soon so we can at least get all biodata. All blueprints will be insane, so they reduced it I think from 4400 but still 130 x (15+4) = 2470 different ones. How many months have we been playing? I have 3,5% now 😱 . It would take years.

[frigid flicker]

.

[thorny crater]

I hope it does. Make it super rare like I haven’t got one ramphy yet other than the stage 1 biodata.

But yeah the bugs need to go. I stopped scanning t2 biodata

[cosmic spade]

what means soon, same as megacity 6 weeks after mainnet… sorry, but everything about IZ is soo frustrating.
as the name mentioned, zero for zero interest in improve the game and bring the promised features.

sorry for this pessimistic post / answer but as i wrote… it‘s frustrating

[radiant sky]

Was more Like 12 weeks...
But yea, i understand your Frustration

[cosmic spade]

you‘re right, my fault, but you got my point…

[radiant sky]

Yes, totally

[verbal igloo]

this month

[cosmic spade]

thats would be good, thanks for feedback

[verbal igloo]

I also fully understand your frustration, unfortunately things were not as straight forward as we initially planned, and many things have changed in the meantime, creating countless delays

[tardy falcon]

Can we get some leaks or previews? Might assuage some of the angst

[grand silo]

@verbal igloo why are we still getting duplicate BPs? it takes a few days for success then only to see that its a duplicate is a complete a waste of resources

[rugged abyss]

One question, I have sold fuel but where can I see the refunds ?

[vivid cipher]

If your fuel actually sold then you will have that much eth in your passport wallet. You’ll see that on the IlluviDex

If you LISTED your fuel but no one bought it then your fuel is simply still listed.

[prisma trout]

@vivid cipher
I'm getting emails supposedly from Illuvium, as an ILV holder, offering a Rareback Bonus. Should I forward it to someone at Illuvium? I know it's a scammer.

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[vivid cipher]

Sure. Forward it to [e-mail]

[prisma trout]

@vivid cipher
Thank you. I will forward it.

[olive abyss]

hey has fuel price gone up recently?

almost maxed out my plot for the bull market

[karmic crag]

Biodata question: Can my brightland steppes property find an ophisto or octius? I’ve been running 5 scanners pretty much nonstop with all other biodata obtained but still missing those two, am I just wasting gas running scanners trying to find those last two biodatas?

[tardy falcon]

Notoriously evasive

Maybe next update will have missing biodata

[sage bough]

I don't think it has, saw some crazy bonus screenshots this weekend.

[spiral turtle]

Is there a seperate process moving Bio Data and Blueprints to the Land? Because I can't see any of those and I got hem all at least during the pre-game process. Cant remember what stage it wwas called but when we were just gathering data and blueprints

[trim osprey]

Is there a website where we can plan our land layout?

Also what is the max amount of fuel converters you can have running at 150% on a T2 land?

[rotund forum]

No but you can just move things around. I actually took a jpg from when you build roads and the map is semi transparent. Kind of started off with that for placing the 5 scanners far enough apart. Then the rest is just ingame shuffeling.

[spiral turtle]

I’d it required to have 5 scanners to reach highest level in the game? Or can you skip scanners?

[rugged abyss]

What does it depen on ?

[thorny crater]

Aw man, I forgot to check my t3 this morning in the computer and did collect my things

My t3 still crashes on mobile so I can’t check it till after work -_-

[vivid cipher]

When you list your fuel for sale you set the price that it’s listed at. Other players can sell their fuel for a cheaper price. No one will purchase fuel that is listed for sale at a price higher than the cheapest price.

[spiral turtle]

Anyone having issues logging in?

[radiant sky]

fine on my end

[radiant sky]

you don't have to build scanners.
Max level is not linked to specific buildings.

[austere tendon]

not to chirp, more state, but Ive been max grinding my T2 plot for a month and have 1000 of each fuel.

Just checked marketplace and if I just buy 1000 fuel for $9 I get checks notes....25000 BONUS fuel. Bruhhhh

lets hope if OW gets poppin again there is some kind of different ROI for land holders or skins do their thing. mamma mia

[minor pilot]

yes im struggling as well it keeps dropping out

[spiral turtle]

I logged completely out and resigned in with Passport.. Seemed to fix it

[thin wolf]

Got two Singe Drone BP today Chopin and Hilde🥳

Anyone else? Feel like they have added more BP?

[open stratus]

Yeah idk how it turns around. Seems like we have a serious supply issue that went unchecked.
Thet say it's coming etc, but so did axie, and now they have a bazillion SLP still kicking around

[subtle frost]

Has fuel gone down recently?

[mortal mural]

I want to ask you. The process you go through. You basically put 2 rows of double converters first. And accommodate the rest as you see fit, right?

Or maybe you start in a corner)

[radiant sky]

completed my jotun drone bp's today 🙂

[mortal mural]

It’s so satisfying having all 4 drone bps

I somehow got all phosphorus drone bps without a single fact

[radiant sky]

yea the rng is super weird... researching sear bp since 2 weeks... just got facts so far.
but on the other hand all 4 of jotun drone bp's with just 1 fact found in that time

[thorny crater]

I have a crap ton of facts on my t3 but in 3 weeks 1 BP on the t3

And in the last 3 days 4 Bps on the t2 which has 1-2 facts per biodata lol

https://tenor.com/view/whiskey-tango-foxtrot-sonny-quinn-seal-team-wtf-aj-buckley-gif-7623050606069594298

[olive abyss]

ohhh i see, you must have sold off storage for more room for more converters.. i can probably fit a few more converters on mine but any more than that and they wont be at 150%

i realized that now that my fuel depots are maxed out, i only need enough of the elements to consistly use the fuel depots, so i can cut out some storage and fully upgrade a few and also cut some element converters possibly

basically once you max out fuel you dont need as much of the elements for upgrades so you can sell and reshape for straight fuel production

i want to have this plot maxed out before the bull run really starts

its only just begun but we probably have till mid next year

im thinking gaming will take off when alts start breaking all of their ath's

[tardy falcon]

So heyy... when do we expect pack opening illuyvials? And will single fuel type happen at that time? And only fuel will be used to get the packs?

Any changes to 19:1? Wondering where things are at with economy and how it affects zero

[radiant sky]

we won't know until there's some IIP's/ICCP's gona be published

[tardy falcon]

Ahh okay... prob soonish since there's been some time to dial down details

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-not-i-dont-know-maybe-we-dont-know-gif-4965071280460852343

[tardy falcon]

Well we know major update for zero is coming this month... so it would also make sense to begin incorporation of the new system

I'm glad some biodata has been held back... cuz you know everyone gonna mint bps asap and craft skins or put them on market 😝

[mortal mural]

I still haven’t seen the iip for single fuel. I don’t think it’s gonna be pushed this next update

[tardy falcon]

will see... but it would require another major update to incorporate... so makes me think they might idk

[vague summit]

I've never had an illuvial found from my scanner yet... Is it just a really low chance to find anything? Tier 2 plot... 97% efficiency.

[radiant sky]

I doubt that.
In theory... Before they can Start developping or implementing something Like this, there needs to be an approved iip...
After approval they need to develop/implement
After that they need to qa, which is usually 2 weeks afaik
Then fix the bugs
Then qa 2 weeks again
Then pray there is no gamebreaking Bug anymore or repeat.

[tardy falcon]

makes sense... and if they are changing the whole fuel system and funneling three fuels into one, prob need some adequate testing time

[mortal mural]

How long have you been scanning? Having only one scanner sometimes many days pass without a successful scanning

[vague summit]

Two or three weeks or so

Is there a way to get the efficiency higher? Or does it even have any effect?

[radiant sky]

100% efficiency is max

[vague summit]

Ok, I'll just keep trying. Thanks!

[austere tendon]

yea man im getting cooked too. Spamming daily 2 facilities but only 6BPs total in like 2.5-3 months

like a 1% hit rate

[thorny crater]

It’s bitter sweet but doesn’t like up. If my t2 was doing the same as my t3 I’d be ok with the high lvl of rarity. I want cs knives type rarity.

But my t3 is catching up to my t3 and it doesn’t search half as much, nor has as many facts. So FTW lol

[spiral ravine]

Hi guys i placed 3 selling orders of fuel 3 days ago, and now those orders are disappeared! None bought since i don't have money in my wallet!
Has this happened to some of you guys?

[mortal mural]

We’ll see soon. I hope all updates comes fast too.

[radiant sky]

disappeared? Are you sure they are not just still pending?
You can check that on the FEX --> Exchange --> My orders --> Click the $

[radiant sky]

Good luck

[spiral ravine]

Oh yeah i didn't click on $ ...thank you so much

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[broken roost]

the lack of information about Zero is baffling. I dont even know wtf im supposed to be researching.

[tardy falcon]

I’d consider zero an alpha alpha… lots more to come. Right now it’s just fuel, biodata and bps. That’s it.

No way to tell if there’s any value or demand for the bps or skins… we are guinea pigs helping to test out the product.

Wondering what the next update will be like tho… sounds like there will be a bunch of changes

[olive abyss]

yeah ive had 1 going for like a month and have gotten 2 lol

[vague summit]

Ooof, that's terrible.

[olive abyss]

zero is going to be one of the best game nfts of this bullrun

not only is it the money maker of illuvium, but they could tie in endless amounts of games as a studio that uses the fuel

its also just a solid game and fun to build

[broken roost]

wdym with a bunch of changes? game has barely changed since 2021 xD

[olive abyss]

hasnt been steady though, ive done somewhere between 10-20 scans with max efficiency

[vague summit]

Appreciate the info! 🍻

[tardy falcon]

It is relative 😝

[olive abyss]

been thinking of getting another plot to build out science, max out the scanner cunt

count

[tardy falcon]

Yah I picked up some also since they are cheap now

[mortal mural]

i have been running 4 scans on my t3 and 3 scans on my t2. for a long time now. i got a t3 with all the available biodata now (without counting the ones the community believes to be bugged).

i think its been like 3 months now since i focused bps

yup i started focusing bps in september. for a very long period after the nerf patch i had almost nothing

then biodata start comming at a steady rate.

i started with 3 scanners in my t3 but then the fuel price tanked so i thought i just better collect the biodata for fun at this point.

got 83 different biodata between all the plots and 68 different bps across all plots.

[mortal mural]

Which tier did you choose for science?

[tardy falcon]

I’m with u… been focusing on bps also.
Have a little morning routine (:

[tardy falcon]

A second mega city w t4

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-shookt-shocked-gif-5580082

[tardy falcon]

Land is cheap now... so I figured why not dollar cost average. I think eventually land will be considered more in the ecosystem and thought why not...

Maybe it's my mission to practice more patience 😄

[orchid ibex]

I am having trouble withdrawing my funds from the ilvidex , Why has ILV made this so awkward ?

Can a #MOD please kick this fool

like these low life just siting in every discord everywhere just waiting to scam someone holy hell

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[orchid ibex]

Would sure love some help getting my funds out of the unnecessarily complicated Ilvidex especially since i have to wait 24-48 hours after the process starts like its a bank of something

[opal thistle]

Hi did you already started the withdrawal process? Don't accept Dms they are Scam

[orchid ibex]

I have tried a few times but once i connect my wallet like it asks before withdraw it shows a zero balance

[opal thistle]

Ok go to immutascan.io type in you IMX passport wallet check if there is a transfer activity and send me the transaction number. Please do so in #❓❗〕community-help

Tag me there when you find it

[orchid ibex]

wont let me type there

Once you guys made that change how ever any months back I never jumped through the hoops again @opal thistle

[mortal mural]

I second this thought. I wanted to dca my lands too. But I need a little direction on where we going. If I buy I wanted a t4 but I think I better put that money into the token.

[cobalt monolith]

Anyone have a few minutes to chat with me that has decent knowledge of lands etc.? 🤞

Promise not to ask too much lol just quick question

[olive abyss]

Yeah shoot, i only recently bought but have leveled 1 up almost to max and have a pretty good understanding of things

[cobalt monolith]

Check dm

[open stratus]

Yeah idk man, looks pretty grim that nothing really going on, land been unchecked for a while. No real updates. The fk we doing over there

[rotund forum]

right now, updating all powerstations to L9, which makes no sense, and blueprint lottery 😅

oh and stacking fuel for no particular reason.

[queen folio]

Haven’t been able to access my main T2 plot for a while now… whenever it tries to load, the app crashes. I submitted a ticket a few days ago, any idea how long till I receive a response?

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/brotherhood-gif-22994469

[mortal mural]

i just want everything maxed at this point

[iron laurel]

On computer as well or just mobile? My T3 can't load on my phone or tablet but will load on my computer. I was told basically that it is a Samsung issue and they are working on it.

[mortal mural]

my iphone wont load some plots either

[queen folio]

Haven’t tried on my PC since I’ve only ever played on mobile. And yeah, mine is an iPhone 🤔

[iron laurel]

My other plots all work mobile and then I have to switch on the computer for the one plot. Hopefully they get it fixed soon.

[timber sapphire]

i can acces my land on samsung

[mortal mural]

Try on pc. It almost surely will work.

At least for the time being until they fix it

[wispy geyser]

hey good day to everyone

anyone knows how to mine a blueprint?

[mortal mural]

make a scanner. scan to get biodata. Make lab research. Research biodata for a chance to get blueprint or fact about the illuvial

[wispy geyser]

yeah but when i get a blueprint, how can i listed in the marketplace

how can i send it from the game to the marketplace

[mortal mural]

that feature is not available yet

it is supposed to be throught the transducer building

[iron laurel]

I can access 8 out of 9 plots.

[timber sapphire]

Ah I see, yeah strange

[celest wagon]

It only shocks me, it's becoming ridiculous

[lost walrus]

why what is the current use of land

[celest wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/absolutely-nothing-samus-paulicelli-66samus-definitely-nothing-literally-nothing-gif-27093733

[lost walrus]

except airdrop from september 🙂

[paper flame]

Lol did they delete the landholder room?

[pearl dust]

#🗻〕land-owner

[paper flame]

Guess iv been banned. Probably tired of me complaining.

[pearl dust]

It's unlikely you've been banned...
You don't seem to have many server roles though. No idea if it's needed for you to have the 'landholder' role to access it.

Try having a browse around id:customize and see if you can activate it. I've never really explored the role side of things much so I'm not sure what's required for the landholder lounge

[paper flame]

It's alright bud. Thanks anyway.

[pearl dust]

I can see your messages in there from a few weeks back, which means you aren't banned, otherwise it would have deleted them.
Not sure why you've lost the ability to see the channel though :/

Might seem silly, but make sure you've not collapsed the arrow down so they've become hidden

[timber sapphire]

I dont see it anymore either

Or is it placed somewhere else now?

[pearl dust]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-pepehands-crying-gif-12683546

Very odd...

[timber sapphire]

Not that it got used that much anyway

[pearl dust]

I can see it here, no idea why it'd have been removed

[timber sapphire]

Modonly channel huh

[pearl dust]

let me ping some people and see if I can figure out why it's not showing for you guys. I'll let you know if I get any info

[paper flame]

Guess it's pointless now. Just a room for mad people who made bad investments. Lol el deleto.

[mortal mural]

I can’t see the land owner channel either. But it has happened before. Don’t know why.

I usually don’t do anything and it gets fixed on its own

I don’t chat too much there anyway

[harsh dew]

Nice! Just need the blueprint now 😄

[acoustic pike]

why there is levelcap ? 201 my level is standing still

[mortal mural]

I love watching ryplance on streams with that augment that makes it go berserk

It’s just crazy

[harsh dew]

When ingame skin ?

do we have some data about active , total player by time ? For each game ?

[lyric lodge]

how much is a completd T2 making now per day ?

in fuel ?

damn we land owners have got the worst side of it all

118, wow

crushed, absoutly crushed

I worked so hard on my land, still working and i dont think anyone even buy fuel atm right ?

[tardy falcon]

Fuel sells quick if u price it at the very bottom

[harsh dew]

So land price are crashing ?

[sage bough]

Land took a good hit when they nerfed Zero fuel to mach Beyond demand.

Back in October floors (in USD):

T1 - $156
T2 - $390
T3 - $1586
T4 - $4550

That would have been post-nerf.

Land probably would have crashed more but a lot of people are holding 80-90% losses.

[tardy falcon]

Make Land Great Again

[timber sapphire]

This is a t1 tho

[silver plover]

So when other seasons come along and new illuvials are available to find, will we still be able to get blueprints from the biodata we have or will they also stop the ability to find those? (Hopeful future I know)

[thorny crater]

Yeahhh until my T3 stops crash on mobile i aint search BPs any more. My t2 has gotten 1-2 bps a days for Friday and ever since my T3 started crash i havent go Bio data,a fact, or bps. might be a coincidence but seems sus

my bp total map

opps lol

there we go lol

[broken roost]

Zero is suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper laggy

on android at least

wasnt like this before

[vivid cipher]

You don’t have the land holder role anymore. You may be able to get it back if you do #🎫〕verify-asset again

[tardy falcon]

if ze bool is coming, and nfts gain traction again, it would be fortuitous to make zero appealing with lots of new updates and features... just sayin

[tardy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/fml-wtf-smh-gif-20256235

[cinder crest]

Not even having the money to develop a portion of the game is always a good sign of health

[prisma trout]

@tardy falcon
I agree completely with ur gif...lol

[bitter phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/flabbergasted-skull-issues-skeleton-gif-37268210489684995

[tardy falcon]

At least we got MC and BPs coming... silver lining guys, cmon

[lyric lodge]

mc ? well does not mean much if we dont have mc or we didi note mine p!

bp

[lyric lodge]

how much for a t2 per day ?

[lyric lodge]

yeah there was 600 dolkars at some point

[tardy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/penny-1991-holding-gif-11161612

might be a little bit more... but all depends on demand for fuel

[lyric lodge]

WHAT ?

FULLY omptpmised t2 curretnly gives 1 penny ?

a day ?

are you for real ?

[tardy falcon]

I'm exaggerating ... but it's not much

[lyric lodge]

like how much 25c ?

[tardy falcon]

maybe less

Hamster might know the current exact figure

[lyric lodge]

thats awful, will the new breach game use fuel ?

[tardy falcon]

breach?

[lyric lodge]

@hardy brook let us know, ping me please

breach the new game

they working on

[tardy falcon]

Idk breach bro...

I know fuel is intended to be used for everything

so in the future... should be able to buy packs with fuel

[hardy brook]

Wrong hamster, I think you might be wanting @south mural

I stopped selling fuel a while back so I've no idea 🤷‍♂️

[lyric lodge]

but we also get a 5% ilv for selling fuel right ?

[lyric lodge]

what 5 peceent ilv are land holders also suppoised to get for selling fuel ? Does it depend how much you sell ect and when is the first drop coming ?

[tardy falcon]

Have no idea… the yield is so low I don’t pay attention until there is more action with zero. I just play for fun note trying to get bps

U have to ask someone else

[lyric lodge]

so you can still ge bp now ?

i thought they made it much harder ?

is it even worth it ?

[tardy falcon]

Yep… u can

[lyric lodge]

i canot even build a new building cause of the dams plants keep respawwing

[tardy falcon]

I only play for Bp and send fuel to my account sometimes

[tardy falcon]

U have to clear them all

[lyric lodge]

i would start doing that if i could build a new building

[tardy falcon]

Delete a few power plants and make some space

[lyric lodge]

apparently they are working it

[tardy falcon]

Then chop them down

[lyric lodge]

you cannot, it just resets and plans grow there

[tardy falcon]

I know

[lyric lodge]

so is there a way around ?

[tardy falcon]

Delete 5 t1 power plants

Let plants grow

Chop them all down til they are gone

[livid kestrel]

any estimates how much can a t4 land earn a day now?

[tardy falcon]

Takes about 15 minutes

[tardy falcon]

Not much

[lyric lodge]

but keep coming back endlessly

[tardy falcon]

There is an end

[lyric lodge]

do they need to be powser stations in samer area ?

[lyric lodge]

its been months for me now

[tardy falcon]

U have to delete them all in one session

[lyric lodge]

ok thanks I will try !

then will problem be fiully solved no more tress ?

[tardy falcon]

No more unless you let them grow back again

After you clear one plant the next one only takes a minute to clear

That’s why u make space for new growth plants cuz they delete quicker

Do that about 20 times

Then no more plants growing

[lyric lodge]

riigghhtt, thanks !

[radiant sky]

yea totally.
I imagined training grounds getting developed tho before they focus other stuff, would be a big qol feature for almost anyone participating in arena/OW.
But in general in my opinion it's good they focus on the demand game, rather than the supply games 🙂

[livid kestrel]

thanks, any idea how much fuel a t4 land can produce a day then?

[molten loom]

Is there any news about megacitys? Havent been aktive in the last months

[verbal igloo]

Its planned to be released this month

[lyric lodge]

I deleted 5 power stations, deledted allll the plants tried to build something they came back , done this 3 times now, how many times do i need to do it ? thanks

[lyric lodge]

@tardy falcon done it like 6 times now, how many times did you have to do it ? Do i need to delet the bilding that creates better trees ?

[radiant sky]

I had to do it 30ish Times, but it's depended on how Long you didn't do it

[thorny crater]

This is a fully built T3. Yesterday I stopped looking for BPs on it because I think this plot is bugged. On mobile is crashes and on computer it’s been quite some time, over 10ths, and everything fails. No biodata, no facts, no bps. So I think something is wrong.

That said. Here is me ROI, which doesn’t matter unless arena and ow pop off. Or everything goes to “zero”

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Actually that’s an old one lol

This was the last one I did

Haven’t found a way, mostly laziness, to track fuel without physically looking at it in the ledger. So I have to manually change it.

Haven’t sold fuel since august.

[mortal mural]

@tardy falcon how do you research on opportunities to buy MCs?

[tardy falcon]

The first MC I just kept track of plots next to mine and bought when they came available. The second one I bought from someone sellin on the Zero Dex channel.

[tardy falcon]

I was close with 1 penny 😄

[wicked horizon]

remind me how many biodata we can find? 120?

[mortal mural]

130. but community thinks many are bugged and anvailable for now

[prisma trout]

@lyric lodge
I have to keep doing it still and created a ticket on it ( bug report). So annoying

[quaint prism]

T2 Bio-data is weirdly rare. I've only found 2, compared to 3 T5 Bio-data, out of ~100 total across my plots.

[tall crypt]

Megacities? Is the same 2x nothing

I acummulate fuel at 6 level deposit. Im not selling.

[harsh dew]

There still some bug on some of the Affinity Icon

[mortal mural]

we believe its bugged the whle tier since the nerf patch

[tardy falcon]

One of the biggest values for Zero will be the use of our own fuel in the ecosystem... aka buying Beyond d1sks, Illuvial packs, and other fuel uses... because we will be able to buy those things at full value for fuel. Whereas right now you sell fuel at a fraction of its value.

[mortal mural]

i hope fuel recovers its value and i can just dump all my fuel to buy illuvials and d1sks.

[tardy falcon]

Skins would increase in value 100x if there were cross brand partnerships with cool shit... u can see the demand for fortnite skins cuz of it (juice world, snoop dogg, chun li, michael myers, harley quinn, venom, jack skellington, etc)

Cross brand partnership with skins like Beyond does with Illuvitars and you could have a way to monetize Zero. Make those skins possible to get only in Zero (or on secondary) and at a premium for Zero players... Like Beyond needs to buy promo disks in eth only... Zero players would buy a component that you add to your bp and craft the promo skin...

[tardy falcon]

you should be able to buy d1sks and illuvials with fuel... that's the plan afaik

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-mr-burns-evil-laugh-evil-laugh-gif-4076853

[twin sequoia]

But ... only with fuel right from the land like sending to OW or also fuel from the market? Because I´m sure a lot of people have plenty of fuel in the account because of the bonus,so I´m not sure it will affect demand until a lot of new players enter the paid game.

[tardy falcon]

The more ways fuel can get burned the better

[twin sequoia]

That for sure

[ornate obsidian]

Help. I bought 3 t1s years ago . Got ill and just now seeing to start playing again. I cant connect my land to the game now. It is just a free starter t2. where to go for help?

[mortal mural]

i think you gotta make the imx passport

[mortal mural]

@radiant sky

[radiant sky]

You have to create a passport Account and link your metamask where your Land is in in the Settings.
https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10406704244495-How-to-add-an-External-Wallet-to-your-Passport-Account

[twin oracle]

Is there a way to avoid plants to grow? I need to rebuild some structures, but everytime I try to movie, got error and another plant grows over there

[tardy falcon]

Read up above it was recently discussed

[thorny crater]

Nope it’s a pain in the A. Once I make a plot max I never rebuild because of the plant queue

[twin oracle]

OMGGG, SAD

[thorny crater]

If it was up to me I’d leave BUT with 1 exception. While you plot is activity loaded, not included switching plot, but loaded and looking at current. No plants grow.
This way 2 things happen:

1. we can experiment on moving building around, and clear plant that are in the way.
2. once down we can reload the plot and start clearing plants again. This way we can still get resources.

Also, it would affect the code to much…if never looked at the source code when we were testing lol, but shouldn’t be a hard implementation imo

[quaint prism]

I agree with the above. Modifying plot layout is a massive chore right now and the plants respawning a major headache.

Other things are higher priority right now, but it would be nice to one day be able to bulk edit the layout of your plot. EG, something like the base editor on Clash of Clans.

[radiant sky]

yup, totally agree.
Editor mode and best case saving multiple layouts so one could swap between at least 2

[prisma trout]

@south mural
Sorry. Hit the wrong emoji

[tardy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/xnh-gif-27054145

we must have patience

[sinful palm]

Hi guys, does anyone know how to solve the error 403, unauthorized?

[vivid cipher]

Hey welcome! 403 could be VPN, an Geo Restriction or a ban, you should contact the support on the website shared #❓❓〕support

[tardy falcon]

yep... so we need patience while they fix the demand issue.

Land... the ultimate long game 😄

[lyric lodge]

@verbal igloo please can you give us an update on when the plant issue is going to be resolved, its been going on for months and months, are we going to get credits for this delaing our progress ? I think thats a fair request considering how land owners have been let down

thats disgusting, land owners have been so let down

[lyric lodge]

can you guys rather put removing the plants bug at the top of the list ? rather than megacities

[lyric lodge]

no its been going on for months and months

they do that by maiking the other games better

[lyric lodge]

or the team can just fix it right

[lyric lodge]

leave what ?

[verbal igloo]

Will be part of the upcoming patch update

[lyric lodge]

ok thanks do we know when that roughly is ?

[verbal igloo]

This month

[lyric lodge]

thanks appericate the update

[errant pollen]

Are rectangular megacities confirmed, or are only square ones confirmed?

[verbal igloo]

only squares, 2x2 and 3x3

[errant pollen]

Any plans of adding rectangular ones in the near future?

[verbal igloo]

There are discussions, but no actual plans as of right now

[shut hearth]

Hi. Where can I find the list of all the Biodatas, Blueprints and Facts that can be obtained?

[timber sapphire]

<@&821154860816793604>

[mortal mural]

i finally finished my t1 layout

21 converters, 20 max eff passive, 1 is 130 but i think i can move things around and make it max passive too

@south mural

[thorny crater]

Oh sorry I’d leave it the way it is except with the except (#1) in place.

[mortal mural]

moved things around. all 21 converters are at max passive eff. some of them are at 150% for active conversion

[mortal mural]

i optimized it a little bit more for prettier layout

all done with only 1 worker. now its time to upgrade all

i think this will be almost my final layout

https://tenor.com/view/panda-look-gif-26888653

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-swedish-chef-explode-spicy-mind-blown-gif-22231939

[mortal mural]

even though Zero is at almost bottom on the list of priorities (for now), i will always love zero the most.

[radiant sky]

there is no such list.

In theory you can get all t1-t5 illuvials as biodata and 4 drone +15 armor Blueprints each biodata.
But it seems that community feels this patch some biodata got bugged and can't be found at the moment.

[shut hearth]

ok ty

[mortal mural]

i think plot could be prettier without the elemental converters but i m not so sure to add more fuel converters.

its still a very long way to max converters yet

im planning on maxing a lot of power stations too just in case

so gonna stick to those elemental converters for a long time

[harsh dew]

Do upgrading the Material Labs increase the change of finding lower Tier Facts & Bluprints ?

[mortal mural]

i think not.

it should really since it costs more but, i think it doesnt

i thought exactly the same. but i ran out of time. im at work currently. just going in to upgrade powerstations.

thx for feedback!!!

nice to know we are in the same page

dont know about others in the community since they dont post their layouts. but you are very likely between the best layouts in zero if that means something.

im not sure how much more can plots be optimized

i try to cram 3 different convertes together

but eff drops like a rock

i know i can do more converters at borders of plot

but it takes a lot of fuel which i have not

in a t1

so i decided not to have much conveters on low eff

[radiant sky]

it's pvp... if you have layouts more efficient then others you get a bigger piece of the cake than the average...

[mortal mural]

well it is in that sense. but i figure not everybody is in discord. and not everybody tries as hard as some of us. so i much rather share and better my plots.

[radiant sky]

Atm the activity inhere but in zero in general is probably pretty low yea.
But there will always be people copying layouts which also do share them on other platforms, the more activity the more people doing it.
So on way or another your layouts (if the count to the most efficient ones) will be shared on all SM platforms.

But yea, that's very generous of you 🙂
And i bet many people in here appreciate it very much

your help is much appreciated ser

[radiant sky]

development of MC's is basically done 🙂

[mortal mural]

i agree they should focus on revenue but they to keep the mc promise.

lately i also thought that if lands werent an investment and minted freely or at a very low cost we would be having a very different conversation. probably on making the game more fun

i agree, but mc seems to be nearly completed anyway.

[rotund forum]

I’d talk IZ but to be quite frank not that much to talk about. Scanning stopped, until they fix the missing ones, blueprints… finding every time less yet also lots missing (L5 suits?), so I wanted to address something completely different;

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/and-i-dont-disagree-charles-brooks-younger-im-not-disagreeing-with-you-im-not-against-it-gif-21639467

[rotund forum]

I had high hopes that this bullrun would be all web3 gaming. I don’t see it? Maybe 2028 but right now it is either defi, memes or blockchains competing. Solana I also thought was going to be the main one in this bullrun and I have others that are old like ripple or chainlink that are getting real world uses, so for now, I am happy I diversified but the gaming sector is not that spectacular as I had hoped. Your thoughts on illuvium and gaming web3 for this cycle?

[low river]

No man sky and Cyberpunk are some of those examples, is not common though

[static blade]

Any one gave any luck selling their fuel? Or is no one buying?

[tardy falcon]

U have to list it at bottom to sell

https://tenor.com/view/really-low-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-very-low-super-low-gif-20162339

[restive mason]

What’s the best daily rate you can earn off a T3?

[olive abyss]

The cycle brings people in new and old. People will look back into games they were priced out of and new people will look at the top games

imx is the top gaming coin and ilv is the best game on there

the path leads here

[sacred drift]

How much can I earn via selling fuel if I buy a t1 land?

[strong pewter]

How much can I earn off a T4?

[fallen nymph]

I lost access to the landholder room. In your message with a link to the channel, I see "No Access". Any clue what happened?

[strong pewter]

Because I can’t seem to sell ANY fuel

[strong pewter]

What landholders room is that?

[fallen nymph]

There's a chat room / channel for people who confirmed they own land.

Apparently, it's still there but I can't see it anymore

[strong pewter]

That’s a good idea, how do I get in

[fallen nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/no-fking-idea-el-estepario-siberiano-i-have-no-clue-gif-5210802644975906234

[vivid cipher]

@fallen nymph @strong pewter

Use #🎫〕verify-asset to get the land owner role back.

[fallen nymph]

Thanks Jesse. I think it might be because of the switch to IMX passport wallet. Any tips for connecting that?

[vivid cipher]

That’s exactly the cause. And I don’t think there’s a way to make that work if the land is in the passport. Maybe go through the process of sending the land back to the metamask controlled wallet. I’ll share some guides…

• How to add an external/secondary wallet to your passport account https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10406704244495-How-to-add-an-External-Wallet-to-your-Passport-Account

• How to transfer land from passport wallet to secondary wallet (like an imx metamask wallet including mm with hardware wallet integration) https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10406834136079-How-to-Move-Your-Land-to-Your-Secondary-Wallet

[versed warren]

Does it just keep getting lower then?

[tardy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-11928667053720670991

[versed warren]

Damn

[tardy falcon]

That's why hamster is so keen on making sure the team focuses on the games that bring paying players... paying players buy fuel and thus help land. But for now we have an exponentially increasing over supply issue and a disparately anemic demand issue.

[hardy brook]

Let's go! This took way longer to find than I was expecting 😅

[rotund forum]

I was thinking first day I find absolutely nothing and the very last one on the last plot I find this! 🥳 But the droprate now seems so much lower than a couple of months ago, when it would be anywhere from 4-7 biodata and 3-5 blueprints. The biodata I get, because it is just completed except for the ones that are unavailable for whatever reason but blueprints there are thousands.

[timber sapphire]

In which country?

[tardy falcon]

Agree seems like bps are even more rare now /:

[thorny crater]

About to get my first t2 to max fuel but I bought this like 1-2 months ago

Straight to OW more than likely. Idk yet tho. Wish we could use fuel for more things tbh

[sweet egret]

my shardland plot drives me crazy. I cleared yesterday all plants. And still, Only building 1 on the screenshot got build over night. Building 2 is still at 0%. Pls help, what can I do different? 😦

[spiral ravine]

Hi guys sorry if i text here but i don't know where to ask and i am not able to see which is the medium price on illuvidex for a tier 3. How many eth does it cost?

[fallen nymph]

Thanks for the confirmation and the links!
Been meaning to do this anyway, so now I have another good reason.

[wicked horizon]

wen land pump

😂

[twin sequoia]

This happened to me once with fuel production. Try moving back and forth one power station beside the building. Also, look in the activity tab if there is any indication about what is happening. If that doesn´t work, you can stop and restart it, but will loose the fuel.

And open a ticket.

[sweet egret]

I give it a try with moving the buildings. Thx for advice. Tickets sadly are just dead ends. Lost low hundreds of fuel because starting a building ends in a network error. Atleast my other plot works...

[tardy falcon]

if illuvium can bring in more people to play the game land will inevitably go up

[cinder grove]

Idea - The rarity of skins depends on tier and evolution, this is standard. Why not have on each illuvial tier, including each evolution, a super rare skin as well. So one of the T1 illuvial skins is as rare as a tier 5 skin. Nobody knows which illuvial skin it is, community needs to figure this out themselves. This happens with each wave of new illuvials. Kind of a mystery egg thing. This way also the lower tier lands feel they have some chance to hit a jackpot.
Coming from a guy having several T4’s, T3’s and T2’s
@bitter glade

[gritty saddle]

Question...does power plant level do ANYTHING for efficiency, or is efficiency solely impacted by number of power plants rather than their actual power output?

[tardy falcon]

tbh skins are a bit boring imo... the only system currently is that there are more rare ones and less rare ones... and some aesthetic differences. What really sets things apart is uniqueness. You can achieve uniqueness by adding some emotional component like brand partnered skins... or something with attitude or character... customizing in some ways...

The whole segment of Illuvium skins will need attention at some point... but I agree with hamster... gotta get the games played by more people first

[twin sequoia]

The level of the power plant only gives more power available to buildings. You can fill everything with lvl 1 and the efficiency will be the same than if lvl 9.

[restive mason]

Can you sell a mega city easily now?

[radiant sky]

nothing changed in that regard

[dreamy skiff]

Is land any worth now? 😂

[jaunty folio]

hi guys,
Does anyone know why the illuvium zero islands are getting cheaper and cheaper even though the fuels are getting more and more expensive?!

[mortal mural]

What do you mean fuel is getting more expensive?

[tardy falcon]

fuel is not getting more expensive... it's getting cheaper

It appears as tho it's getting more expensive because the top rail price is pegged to eth

but the bonus system in place gives you about 30x more

so fuel is 30x cheaper than the price you see there

bad system, I know

but I hear they are revamping the fuel system and game economy so... let's see what's coming

[jaunty folio]

hm ok thanks

[thorny crater]

added a % complete section 🙂

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-brooklyn-ninenine-b99-smile-gif-11928987

I get the feeling t5 bps might be harder to find but it’s probably just me.

[sonic gazelle]

hi guys illuvium zero still on pause?

[prisma trout]

@sonic gazelle
Seems to be

[mortal mural]

What you mean pause?

[sonic gazelle]

s3 haven't started yet

[weary steeple]

hello, to play zero, do i have to buy a plot?

im new

[tardy falcon]

There’s a free to play plot you can try

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/mhmm-mika-kenan-you-got-that-right-thats-what-im-talking-about-gif-20482752

getting t5s3 blueprints is so satisfying, i fantasized with this since building for blueprints

[cinder grove]

Agree more people need to play the games, and therefore we need new ideas

[rotund forum]

Got not 1 but 2 today, Titanor Hilde and Rhamphyre Aerocloak. Rhamphyre now 13 of 19 🥳 🥳

I´m not sure but the drone blueprints that were formally unavailable were just available suddenly unannounced, it wasn´t any patch I think. So for that same reason I still try to scan sometimes a couple of times just in case they "fixed" that silently. No such luck yet. Hoping it will be included in the next patch. Is megacities and blueprint minting still happening in 2024?

[thorny crater]

Same. lol

[mortal mural]

How many lvl 5 labs are you running?

[mortal mural]

The t5s3 filter is very nice. Will add to my chart too. How long have you been researching t5s3 bio data?

[rotund forum]

25

[rotund forum]

well, it´s been a while. I leveled as fast as I could, with the 3 workers, but now since the squid is not available I just focus each plot on 1 T5S3, that way you have gotten the facts out of the way and that is as optimal as it gets as far as I can see

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-jake-gyllenhaal-saturday-night-live-omg-jesus-christ-gif-25522129

are you just focusing on t5s?

[rotund forum]

yes, because I think they will be rarer. Just because on T1-2 plots it is harder to go for T5 scanners and biolabs, and there are a lot more of those plots out there. And supposedly the droprate is lower as well. But if you ask me if they will be valuable? No, maybe if the game becomes a success and these become ultra rare then yes, but a lot has got to change and a lot of time will have to pass. I don´t see anything happening this bull run

weren´t they going to put some kind of leaderboard for IZ up? Not sure because not that many are on discord apparently but those here frequently we should not score bad at all I think.

[true cradle]

can you share that sheet? plz

[rotund forum]

Sorry not near my pc now, but the original one was posted above somewhere. Hang on, I’ll resend

[true cradle]

ohh ty i cant find it, yes please

[rotund forum]

😆

[true cradle]

ops

[mortal mural]

make a copy and use it however you guys want

oh

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WHDbC7As6iNRC8z2NS-cqy-PbCXPHuUPX47n4zPVKOc/edit?usp=sharing

there

i just dont wanted it doubled posted

[true cradle]

thank you to both of you i really apreciate it!!!

[rotund forum]

Same here, and you deserve the credit

[mortal mural]

if youg guys make interesting changes. lemme know so i can kept adding features

[mortal mural]

its ok, i dont mind about credit. its small effort i enjoyed for all zero community

[lean bison]

What's the success rate ?

[rotund forum]

Well… they said 5% and having 25 scans a day, most days now I have 1, and today I had 2 so yeah, that seems to be correct. But it is a bit of an anticlimax from before when I had daily 4-7 biodata, and maybe 3-4 blueprints. That time is definitely over at least for these plots.

[sweet carbon]

Hey - I haven't been here in awhile! Are we actually building cities now and out of beta?

[radiant sky]

Yes we are

[strong pewter]

What is causing my singularity scanner to halt at zero progress?

Assuming I have sufficient power, etc.

[tardy falcon]

need more power

[strong pewter]

Even though it doesn’t indicate that

[tardy falcon]

yep

glitchy

[strong pewter]

Thx

[cinder grove]

You seem a bit sour. I understand what you are saying, but if you want more players and another player (me in this case) is giving an idea to make it more fun for lower tiers to have a change for a jackpot, and it is directly torpedoed because some have some anger that this game is not going their way, aren’t you pushing other community members away? It seems counterproductive. I am not very active in the discord but I like Illuvium and so do my kids. But when I do interact on discord or twitter, I see some very active members being sour. I know I will not retrieve my $100k I put in this game, nevertheless I am not sour as I do see people trying. Maybe not always what I would like, but I believe it will develop over the years. I have seen many scammers in the crypro industry and Illuvium is 💯 NOT in that category. They are trying and doing an amazing job. I have been critical as well, but believe they will get there.
My idea concerning easter eggs for lower tiers can not only be applied for skins, also for Beyond, Overworld, Emotes etc. When lower tiers can tell stories they hit the jackpot, other will onboard as well, learn the game and tell others. You need to attract the crowd that doesn’t have the money to invest in a T4 land or make T3 runs in OW

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[spring void]

How long has it been since an update was pushed? Feel like there's been critical bugs outstanding for months now

[tardy falcon]

big zero update coming this month.. that's what's been mentioned

[spring void]

Sounds good, thanks!

[wide bobcat]

I have to say, there is a lot of room for growth but I have been enjoying the land quite a bit (been playing since launch).. true it is a bit rinse and repeat for now..but "Rome wasnt built in a day"... lets start seeing some illuvials run around the land and work hard 🙂 goodluck all the land owners.

[keen maple]

When can we expect to finaly mint the blueprints?

[tardy falcon]

they say this month

[wide bobcat]

any news on mega cities?

[paper flame]

Why can't fuel be %100 generated from land owners?

Didn't illuvium.io collect a s load of money on the land sale? Why not give back to the original land minters?

It's going to be a stain on the record until corrected.

[mortal mural]

i think its this month

[grand silo]

God I hope it gets better

[austere tendon]

im getting network area on both PC and zero every time I try to build new data bank. even with refreshes. something bugged?

[twilit bough]

Of course we are sour. And scared of the future. Huge lack of logic. Illuvitar and paying for bad partnership to sell picture doesn't help the brand to attract real player. Everybody want overworld, they know that. The most played game for a long time was zero, they know that. So they doubled down on arena.... With a new mode called gauntlet that is a rip off of mobile legend chess...

And they know the future of arena is on mobile... Not on PC

[spiral turtle]

Can someone direct me to a link that explains exactly what paths do. I'm confused by the details on this. Is it Efficiency that they increase?

[idle ridge]

If I buy land and make gas, can I (A) use that gas myself, and or (B) give that gas to a specific player?

Thanks

[spiral turtle]

So can you help me understand I look at my Silicon Mine with zero paths around it. It says it will produce 3780 Silicon in 5 minutes. If i completely surround it with paths it says the same 3780 Silicon in 5 minutes. Wheres the production Bonus? Or am I reading it wrong?

[radiant sky]

you need to connect buildings with paths.
the more buildings that are connected the higher the path-bonus for those buildings
you get +1% for each 10 buildings connected with paths.

[spiral turtle]

Ooooooooh ok Thanks!

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[spiral turtle]

Can you tell me why both these Condenser Plants indicate -40% in this layout? What is it telling me to fix?

[cinder grove]

I never said the problem is lack of ideas, I say that ideas are good to have, the more the merrier. They all have a lot of skin in the game and also want to succeed. Their path might not be yours, but I am sure they are working hard to make it successful. Games are still in Beta, have faith as well. Or join the counsel

[lyric lodge]

can anyone advise what is the story around land owners getting 5 percetn ilv, when do we get this, how muhc fuel do we need to sell to qualify ?

can you share a picture of your stage 2 land that prodcuing optimal fuel ?

[radiant sky]

you clicked on your condenser plant lvl 2 with 121 efficiency.
When you have the efficiency filter activated and click on a production structure, it tells you what structure negatively influence your production structure.
On your SS you see how your other condenser pplants influence the one you clicked as soon as you move it into their AOE range (6 squares).
The - 40% is calculated when it's right next to those.
For understanding purposes, I recommend moving your condenser plant closer to them and then back away again. Then you realize the closer your condenser plant is to the others, the more the efficiency decreases up to the maximum.

[radiant sky]

In theory there should already have been distributed.
I guess the IMC is working on distributing it.

#1267902026533306480 message

[spiral turtle]

So effectively it is warning me that should I move my Condenser plant closer it would be negatively affected up to the -40% potential. But it is not currently -40% because the distance is adequate?

[radiant sky]

exactly

the colorization of the squares gives you a hint how good the efficiency is when you place your structure at that spot.
You can see between your 2 condenser plants, or right next to the condenser plants its almost red, because you get from both almost the max -40%

[spiral turtle]

Awesome ok. Because It was really gonna mess with my thought process otherwise. Lol Thanks so much for your help. I'm behind the ball here. But I was an original land owner from the first Sale... I lost touch. But I actually have a Mega City 2x2. 🙂

[radiant sky]

Uuh nice.
Megacity Feature should be coming soon

[spiral turtle]

Really hoping we can view all our plots on 1 screen. But I heard that was an issue. So 🤞

[thorny crater]

My t3 still crashes on mobile phone, so I hope the fix the little bugs before fully distributing more new features.

[lyric lodge]

Why do you think the team decided to make the land have so many power stations and look soooooo ugly ?

[lyric lodge]

Yeah like who actually looked at that fully optimised land before launch and said yip let's go....let's be honest it was rushed to launched because Kieran totally miscalculated how much work it would need to make the game...kept adding stuff and made constant promises of launch dates putting him and whole team and under pressure to deliver totally messing up the communities expectations ect ect

[lyric lodge]

great so they knew, went ahead anyway, awesome, great team work

[harsh dew]

DId I just loose time or fuels with my reseach or it's a warning hey your have reach the limite, Build more Data Bank ?

Seems like it's a limite and the Materials Lab is lock.

If i'm 5/5 do I need to select and drop some biodata(pref) or blueprint ? Like burning Fuels ?

[timber glacier]

You can also just build another Data Bank

[harsh dew]

I'm at 5/5 it's the max no ?

[harsh dew]

Wtf

[timber glacier]

Lab doesn't add more storage

[harsh dew]

https://tenor.com/view/ohboy-excited-cant-wait-gif-5105203

[paper flame]

Its a shame we can't trust anything at this point.

[twilit bough]

This was approved?

[radiant sky]

Yes

[lean bison]

Its been more than 4 weeks now since I got my last Biodata also research

Did lvl up both to lvl 4 and I have 2 of each

You had same problem before?

[rotund forum]

I think there is a slowdown, but not a complete stop. Had 1 again today which is my average.

[lyric hamlet]

I was looking at the ledger

It's crazy

Barely any activity

The ones that do get exchange is for 2 bucks

There's no utility for zero anymore

[spiral ravine]

Yeah guys this is a disaster to be honest

The game also has so much bugs, like the non stop plant growing, my god i am not able to build structures anymore. I also sent them different messages, but always the same problems

[lean bison]

Maybe luck too I don't know

[radiant sky]

if there were no powerstations there would be converters.
You can't solve that problem without bringing in more diversity in structures i think and that needs devtime.

[lyric lodge]

Yeah devtime that should have been given before launch...plots look so ugly

[twin sequoia]

That isn´t a bug ... it is a bad designed feature. It is welcome to help develop the plot ... when you are active. So the queue should have been limited in case there is no activity in the plot, but it wasn´t. Fortunatelly, we hope it get solved in this months´s update. We still don´t how, but it will be welcome anyway, as the queue is also unnecessary when you finish developing the plot.

[lyric lodge]

They said it will absolutely be resolved

[twin sequoia]

They said ... let´s see how 🙂

[verbal igloo]

The endless plants spawning behavior is indeed a bug.
The reason why the issue was not fixed yet, is because we are very focused on the upcoming patch alongside tons of other fixes and changes.
An intermediary patch to release a fix only for it would have taken us some valuable time, which unfortunately we couldnt afford.

[twin sequoia]

So what was the intended behavior of plant spawn?

[verbal igloo]

Only a single plant should spawn.

[twin sequoia]

That doesn´t fit to me, as there is a goal for 5 daily plants and that way they wouldn´t be "full" grown plants. So they wouldn´t help with resources and would be a completely useless

[verbal igloo]

the bug applies to people that have full plots only and as soon as they make any room a plant is spawning there every time

[trim osprey]

How much money are you making a week off of your T2 plots? Any idea of a $ value for having 22 converters? I’m slowly grinding my way up after you helped me previously but just wondering if it’s even worth my time 😅

Would also love a remove all buildings button to make it easier to rearrange our lands! Any news on that?

[twilit bough]

Thanks for confirming. They should share what was voted in announcement. Not everybody got the time to follow up everything. So how is the price of the fuel determined now?

[undone ocean]

Any of you guys having this type of error?
"trying to use locked resources!"

[verbal igloo]

it means you are trying to use the resources that you are also currently trying to sell on the market

[twin sequoia]

It seems than in the next update to IZ there will also be a fix for plots having different (low) goals rewards.

[pseudo pulsar]

Stuck on level 201 is that a cap ?

I have 2 T-1 both at level-201

[fossil galleon]

Yes that’s the maximum level right now for all plots.

[pseudo pulsar]

@fossil galleon ok cool

[strong pewter]

Can’t wait for this patch!

[radiant sky]

Price of fuel is determined by landowners

[opal thistle]

My research team had a great day

[timber sapphire]

Modhacks REEEE

[spark ruin]

hi guys, i got a land plot some years ago and i would like to sell it, its a T1 Land, what would be a fair price for it?

[timber sapphire]

Can look on the marketplace or #🛒〕land-dex

[spark ruin]

other think, i dont have a passport, how can i create one? i have a old acount

[opal thistle]

https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/6505944164623-Account-Creation

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/ree-reee-reeee-reeeee-scree-gif-12568403

[pliant sun]

i scan a lot of times singularity scanner and i never find anything, any solutions?

[thorny crater]

Keep scanner

Scanning

There is a very low rate chance is all it is. Going for BPs is very costly. For this reason.

Hoping when the arena and ow takes off these Bo’s go for cs knives prices

[tardy falcon]

They say 5% success rate +/-
so basically 1 in 20 scans

[radiant sky]

According to info gathered by community members, there are several data missing at the moment. (Patch 1.1.4)

Biodata that can't be found for now:

• squid line (Squizz, Octius, Ophisto)
• lynx lines (All T2 Illvuials (31 BD all together))
• mahmoth line (Mah'mu, Mah'tu, Mah'mut)
• Fennec fox line (Winq, Quinx, Ghazotep)
• Moth line (Ace, Artace, Monarch)
• Kangaroo line (Ti'ru, Tii'ruo, Tibi'Rukko )
• Dropbear line (Chucco, Chukoorl, Chukoondi)
• Red Panda line (Rai, Rai-Lu, Rai-Lee)

Blueprints that can't be found for now:
~~- Hilde

• Chopin~~

Please note, this is not an official statement!
This is just info gathered by community members, by playing the Game Illuvium:Zero

Maybe you found them all?

[tardy falcon]

That’s a little better
Bp 5%?

[radiant sky]

No official numbers, a unsere 10% Max got mentioned once. Which could Make Sense if:

• Base successrate 5%
• efficiency Bonus of 150% making it 7.5%
• 5 facts found and each fact granting you .5% making it 10%

[lyric lodge]

Its pennies

[pliant sun]

why so low?

[wicked horizon]

so, there are 130 possible right, quick math says the actual max we can find for now would be... 78 based on this info? Is that correct

[trim osprey]

😂 so it’s not really worth anyone’s time then! Do we have any stats on how many players we have for OW & Arena?

[radiant sky]

Yea... Maybe ,out found some of them earlier. They were not always unavailable

[lyric lodge]

Well I would not say that as in a few years there could be more games all using the fuel so keep building but yeah it's very disappointing for sure

[wicked horizon]

yep, I don't have any of those it doesn't look like, but good to know when I am close to full up, I have focused solely on biodata for now, once I get close to finishing I will swap over to facts and blueprints... I only have 38 so still awhile to go (also don't have a level 5 yet)

[lyric lodge]

But currently lands are basically worthless. Land owners have been the biggest losers in this platform. Also treated the worst

[thorny crater]

here is where i stand on my BPs collect from two plots. my other plots are fuel focused

opps included the bito data....hold up

there we go

just found REVO neroplate(t2) armor.....i have been only research the mons that i ahve 5 facts for. just gunna focus on my favorit till i get them all lol

I mean I think this dudes skin will look so freaking cool

it we be dope if there had the spikes too

im thinking ninja turtles guy for some reason right now lol

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-turtles-throw-tmnt-tokka-donnie-gif-23322480

[sage bough]

Thanks for this! I've suspected T2 scans might be a waste of fuel. So the total Illuvials you can find per tier I believe are:

Tier 1 - 27
Tier 2 - 0
Tier 3 - 18
Tier 4 - 18
Tier 5 - 15

Which means I've finished all Tier 1s on my first T1 plot, and need to upgrade my scanners to L3 😄

[thorny crater]

you found BPS on t1s?!?!?!?!

i don't have the patience lol

[sage bough]

No BPs yet just scanning for illuvials.

[thorny crater]

I have a good bit on my T2

[thorny crater]

my T2

has my only t5 armor haha

[wicked horizon]

If true this would mean I’ve got 5 T1 left outstanding

And 8 T3… thanks for the info

[sage bough]

All 27 T1s I've scanned, pretty sure they're all there save the ones mentioned by Spoon above.

[sage bough]

I do think the true scan rate is lower than published, or the scan chance is a bit more involved. I've had a couple 100% scanners going pretty much nonstop for three months on each of my T1 plots. Maybe the published percentage is based on a L5 scanner? That would explain my L1 scanners missing so often, it would have been a find if my scanner was higher level.

[radiant sky]

Yea i guess....
With my 25 scanners i hit my supposed average 3 Times in 3 months, all other days were below (often Way below) average. My own true successrate is more arround 30% of the official numbers

[thorny crater]

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy got anohter t2 stage 3 body armor.
my t3 still crashes on mobile but at least i can get on, on computer 🙂

t4 armor too

[hexed abyss]

This slooooow "Loading land plots" when switching plots is killing my motivation to play Zero. It's been months now, any ETA?

[compact nebula]

Do I need to upgrade my scanner to max level in order to find the T5S3 biodata?

[past kindle]

chickene nuggies must be expensive near you? no grass?

[tardy falcon]

I don't think S3 can be found now. After last update seems not discoverable. I'm guessing @thorny crater found that before the update.

[lyric hamlet]

I have a serious question

How much fuel supply is in circulation?

[thorny crater]

I found a t5s3 yesterday. The blue crab guy lol I tried to take a pick but my t3 still crashes on mobile

[quaint prism]

Lynxes are hella broken though lol. Haven't seen a T2 biodata since previous update

[lyric hamlet]

How much fuel supply is in circulation?

It's cool if no one knows

[thorny crater]

This is true. Not one new bio data ina minute

[thorny crater]

Unlimited

[lyric hamlet]

Cool you don't know thanks

[vivid cipher]

No one knows

I mean possibly there’s some dev side data on that. But it’s not something that a lot of devs would even be looking at.

[lyric hamlet]

What happens to the fuel once it's used?

Does it get destroyed or recycled in the main net?

But the players from overworld buys that fuel

And they expend that fuel

Right?

[vivid cipher]

Once that fuel is purchased players can use it or they could choose not to use it. But there’s no resale of fuel.

[spring void]

I sold a building and then got a reload plot error and it put a plant in its spot. Every time I clear the plant it says reload plot and it puts a new plant there so I effectively can't build anything in that spit even tho there was just a building there. Wtf lol

[vivid cipher]

Yes. That’s a very common issue.

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[past kindle]

do we know how many watches awarded so far?

[past kindle]

someone just bought 53 d1sks, so 2 more lol

[rotund forum]

damn, haven´t been selling fuel for a month or so, but that thing went from low to almost nothing. If we still get revdis it will take years at this rate to get to 150 eth. Talking about revdis, does the beyond card sale go to landholders now? Or is revdis stopped for more runway? Sorry but not keeping up anymore lately.

[radiant coral]

https://tenor.com/view/pau-gif-12327059536440305198

thanks kieran

[quick pivot]

Wow, how did you manage to get so many BP's?

[timber sapphire]

3 in 3 months?? or you mean 3 a day for 3 months

[radiant sky]

I should get roughly 9 a Day on average with the efficiency on my 25 scanners.
I hit that number 3times (days)
All other days i had between 0 and 8 where most days were in the range of 2-4 BD.
There was no Day where i hit the numbers above my supposed average of 9BD.

[thorny crater]

Non stop research is the only way

[spring void]

Yikes. That's pretty dumb. Are they planning on fixing that?

[harsh dew]

I got an old Iphone SE and I can't play anymore on mobile. I think is related with some of the update in game.

Got my Ryplance blueprint now only.
I'm wondering wha tit's look like 👀 I remember in PB stage 1 or 2 of the Scorpion line was my favorite.

Can you help here @cinder valve 💦 😄

[radiant sky]

Yes

[shut wave]

This is the WORSE idea ever!!! I have no clue what they're thinking! There should be a limit to bonus fuel! This is in freefall..! When is the new game with multiplayer from the advert is coming?

[fathom burrow]

I cant play too.. from last update like a month ago.. the game is crashing

[harsh dew]

You can play on pc via epic game at least!

[shut wave]

Recently say someone did a research on what players value most on youtube by a professional game studio. Graphics and art were not even a thing and playability and fun was right up there. We really need to make this loads of fun for everyone!

[sharp jolt]

How is this not common knowledge at this point? Even some web2 AAA studios seem to refuse that gameplay > graphics

[thorny crater]

Yeah it sucks lol

[thorny crater]

I dislike ff16 bc my computer can’t keep up in some spots.

For comparison; Eldin ring, only in the capital city, had this slow down low fps effect, and honeslty it’s a much more detailed game.

[prisma trout]

@spring void
It happens to me every day, but no fix so far. 🙄

[spring void]

Frustrating for sure. Hopefully a new build is released soon. I have 1 of my 3 plots I can't even play for the past almost 2 months due to the "loading plot" bug

[prisma trout]

@spring void
Sorry you're going through that, too. It's so frustrating. I'm trying to build & update, but...Sheez!

[spring void]

Feels bad but all we can do is wait i guess

[prisma trout]

@spring void
I suppose. I submitted a ticket. Apparently we aren't the only ones with this issue

[spring void]

Yea i submitted a ticket too and all they say is thats its in progress with no eta on a fix

The communication is incredibly poor imo

How do they not know when the next release is targeted?

[radiant sky]

Next patch for Zero is targeted this month

[spring void]

I guess I missed that announcement. I remember you telling me that a couple days ago but I was referring to the help desk not knowing almost 2 months ago when a new release was planned or where along the development timeline this specific fix was in.

Just a bit frustrated is all. Hope things turn around for landholders but that doesn't seem likely

[prisma trout]

@spring void
Gotta love it...lol
Land is not the priority now as frustrating as it is from what I can gather. Too much for the devs with the bugs I've been seeing. My son plays the other games...all except zero

@radiant sky
Thank you muchly sir. I appreciate that ❤️

[radiant sky]

I guess that wasn't clear 2 months ago, idk. I just have access to public Info as you all.
Yea i totally understand the Frustration, hopefully there is some onboarding with season 3 and some revenue kicking in.

[pure fable]

@noble quest please fix this issue, the game is barely playable if it stays like that 🙏

[worn bridge]

Just picked up a T3 a few days ago. What does the T6 extractors put out per 24hrs? My fuel maxed out at 38 per on my T1. But I’ve noticed this plot gives more.

[mortal mural]

75 at max eff

[worn bridge]

Sweet. So double what a T1 puts out at max.

[thorny crater]

wait are all lab cost the same now?

[twin sequoia]

As Panda said, 75 at max, 100% over T1

[twin sequoia]

I never though I would maximize all the buildings that need fuel. With this prices I prefer to see all at level 9 and simplify management that sell the fuel for, maybe $0.50 per plot?

[radiant sky]

the cost should be depending on what level your material lab is, not what level is required.

are those different matlab levels?

[twin sequoia]

These were the last changes, in patch 1.0.4

[worn bridge]

I believe so

[mortal mural]

Let’s hope not. I ve researching bio data without paying attention to fuel costs.

I will look into it tomorrow. I think they still gotta be different cost. My fuel supply on t2 would have gone to zero in a few days if research costs were 15. I got mostly lvl 1 research labs on my t2 plots

[radiant sky]

yea, if they were different it would be a bug.

[thorny crater]

1,3 and 4

[radiant sky]

you saw that this is what it requires, not what your mat lab level is.

[thorny crater]

yeah but the cost was never all 15 before

[radiant sky]

yea, last time i had a look at it mine were different.
I guess would be nice if you report it as a bug then.

[twin sequoia]

Look at it when initiating research. My costs are right, probably the tab get the cost of the higher level lab

[thorny crater]

will do. I wanted to make sure first lol

[twin sequoia]

If you initiate in the lvl IV it will be 15 always. If you initiate in the lvl 1, should be 6.

But a T3 illuvial cannot be researched in a lvl 1 lab

[radiant sky]

i feel that 😄
last time i checked was weeks ago, so idk tbh if it got a little buggy with last patch as many other little things.

[thorny crater]

same haha. i was just thinking ahead on my t2 and was like......

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-peralta-squinting-read-trying-to-read-brooklyn-nine-nine-gif-13387080

[paper flame]

If land doesn't get fixed ima talk hella shi to my 51 followers on X! Threats!

[lost walrus]

Scanning and scanning . Nothing found...

[thorny crater]

I’ve got 1-2 months and found nothing

BPs aren’t for the faint of heart lol

[hot haven]

So many issues 😦

[radiant sky]

Dm's are scam

[lament venture]

Does upgrading the power plant lead to a higher efficiency?

[tall cloak]

Literally just can't even open up plots of land/crashes the game every time I try. When I emailed support, they basically gave me a "we know there's a problem. No fix. Good luck." which is suboptimal.

[lone coyote]

Illuvium Zero all of a sudden won't open for me today....no issues before today...it seems I'm not the only one 😦

[still furnace]

On mobile mostly, pc not as much

[thorny crater]

Auyyy focusing on biodata that all facts are found is working really well for me. Another revo

[twin sequoia]

and scan is scam 😂

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[thorny crater]

72.73% completed for REVO 🙂

[mortal mural]

soon you will have infinite completion % if you take the limit to 0 of not founds

[twin sequoia]

Not possible, as he is filtering out illuvials with 0 blueprints (therefore biodata, so #DIV/0! isn´t possible either xD). Seriously, it should be something like (Table1[@Found]/19)

[twin sequoia]

Didn´t you notice an increase in T1´ daily goals rewards for the resource equivalent to the fuel extractor of the plot. I usually had 520k and now it is 800k. The other resource still 260k.

[thorny crater]

another one lol

ah its a dupe. my t3 already ahd it lol

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/dumbledore-frustrated-harry-potter-i-give-up-fuck-it-gif-15829053

[past kindle]

ill take it

[noble quest]

@verbal igloo something to look at

[verbal igloo]

Will get fixed in the upcoming patch

[rotund forum]

I got no less than 5 blueprints today which is way above the recent average, that was cool, but unfortunately all 5 were duplicates whilst there are tons I am still missing in those particular illuvitars that I am researching.

@verbal igloo Is it not possible to apply the same rules as with biodata, which seems not to duplicate (except for 1 time in the very beginning for me)?

[thin wolf]

Getting alot of Drone skins all across the board which is really nice.
Love the dopamine hit when you see that screen pop up

[thorny crater]

Haha yeeeeeeh

https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066

[hot haven]

Guys, I have 2 materials lab, and now randomly from nowhere in the last 2 days. One of my labs taking double the time to research the same thing? Whats that 😄 Same lvl same path bonus etc

[radiant sky]

haven't heared of that bug before.
An ingame bug report would be appreciated, so the team can investigate in that case.

[harsh dew]

It's kind of annoying this little buggy update related to collecting things in game, making my freeze and my Iphone can't handle it anymore...

[prisma trout]

@rotund forum
Glad you're having great success. I have yet to get even close to a blueprint. I have scanned numerous times & have gotten only 2 illuvials and 1 fact. I'm just wasting my fuel at this point, but then again a T1 land is awful to start with

[rotund forum]

Yeah, I think they are a headache, even T2 is so much better. I’ve been fortunate to be able to play all tiers (except 5 Ofcourse) and the higher the tier the more enjoyable it is (just less waiting and more diversified - T1 are more aimed at fuel production than anything else currently).

[timber sapphire]

well tbf i might not even stock up at all if we dont get a decent announcement soon

[tardy falcon]

Can we make BP only usable once? Then they 🔥

Would hold a lot more value that way

[tardy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-wiggle-lip-wacky-party-pooper-gif-15566286

I know your position XD
We are still here playing this game that's in beta... understanding that the games are still being developed... that BPs are part of the ecosystem and a component in the mechanics of the game. We keep playing and participating because there is still life and things are being developed. Squash every idea with your position and evertime it leads to a brick wall... no fun.

[austere tendon]

0/30 on grilla blueprints and 0/40 overall in blueprints, even with 5 facts. Freaking unreal % odds on skins last month tbh

[rapid tartan]

people got priced out and moved on, which is why i argued so hard for a lower starting price for runs

they thought itd be easier to start high and decrease prices, when in reality the reverse would have been miles more beneficial, you have to let people get addicted while its cheap and let the market naturally have prices rise

i dont know what the bonding curve looks like but its much less appealing now then on launch when things were hype

it was a battle of up front greed vs long term retention, the future can be hard to peer into

gotta make the dao happy tho

its the same logic with the whole 19:1 thing...it just doesnt look appealing, peoples biggest arguement is "but it was always meant to be that way", which is simply not good enough for gamers, if shit sucks it needs changed

i sort of agree and sort of disagree, for me personally i think people are buying land for financial opportunity, not for fun, 19:1 is 1000% why me and my homies arent playing

people can deal with lack of fun if there is some financial gains to be had to even it out

we would see a much more active and synergized ecosystem

on the other hand, 19:1 would be much more accepted if the game was fun, so youre right there, but in the mid term while its not fun, there needs to be an offset of financial gain

landowners are going to be gamers, tokenholders arent, if you want to focus on appeasing tokenholders then the current result is the one you get

and the peanut is psychological. theres a sales training called "always give them the pickle", its not much loss to give your customers an extra pickle on their hamburger compared to the value gained psychologically from your customers getting an extra free pickle

[graceful siren]

Feels like zero has just been abandoned. Can’t even get achievement rewards anymore

[rapid tartan]

same kind of logic when youre negotiating to buy a car, if the salesman wont wiggle at ALL on price, the odds of selling the car drastically decline, however if you provide a meaningless discount, its a psychological win for the customer, resulting in the selling of more cars

and its the same thing ive been saying from the beginning, the game needs to be the focus, not the dao, if the dao could be more inclusive in their "peanut" of earnings, i believe it would have a massive psychological affect, unfortunately it might be too late, but its good to reflect on the mistakes of the past...ive been in sales my entire life so honestly all this is pretty elementary stuff in my world

[graceful siren]

The core problem is all of the games are crap. Team failed

[tardy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/ocean-park-roy-rooster-chicken-anime-gif-15178532947528310648

[mortal mural]

wdym? im interested in your sales knowledge.

[rapid tartan]

trust me, i understand that the dao, and a lot of people dont think it makes sense, thats why things are the way they are, a lack of understanding. there's nothing i can say that i already havent said to help you or anyone else understand. i mean no disrespect, it just is what it is. when i say "play", im talking about zero, youre talking about OW, 2 diff topics. only 20% of plots have sold fuel because selling fuel was literally impossible when the game was launched, and now people are apethetic to the game, which is the absolute worst case scenario for any gaming company. take OW out of the equation and soley focus on ILZ, easier to understand when you narrow the problem, OW and ILZ integration has its own set of issues which would overcomplicate an already hard to understand issue.

Yeah I agree OW has it's own set of problems, but I definitely think 0 is much more relevant than you might think. 0 Should be building momentum to OW, which it would be if there wasn't a 19:1 ratio.

Seems we are in a loop and that's fine, I can agree to disagree.

[rapid tartan]

lmfao, ur probably not wrong but it'd be a shame because it's off to a great start imo...the game is actually pretty cool at first, i really love the vibe/art, it just needs a more compelling gameplay loop or utility

[sage bough]

Time to do another land price update.

At least ETH is pumping so that might help.

[tardy falcon]

just don't look and it'll bo okayyy 😌

[grand silo]

dam someone picked up a t3 for under 500 bucks

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/seth-meyers-right-am-i-right-totally-same-gif-9191853

[quaint prism]

Some people be needing that liquidity

[olive abyss]

How much in $ would 2000 fuel be? If I sold

[tardy falcon]

Cents

[rose maple]

I'm going to ask a silly question, why can't land be 100% of fuel production, what's the reason for the 5% ratio?

[hearty cradle]

IIP

land can produce 100% but it will have to be taxed by 95%

[radiant sky]

Doesn't really make sense to write a proposal now if the whole system gets an overhaul, right?

[hearty cradle]

i would wait

[dusk siren]

any action would probably be benefiting an uncompleted economy loop. Worst thing you can do is sit back for months and just let it roll

[radiant sky]

Thats what i do 🙃

[rotund forum]

I don´t want to be the negative one but I do get the idea this proyect is on life support, there is little to no income, and the runway is going to come to an end. There is not really a publicly announced plan to blow life into this, so they will be able to extent it with selling tokens in the bullmarket, but that is just extending the inevitable. At one point in 2025 or 2026 they would have to pull the plug. Not really sure what would happen then, maybe sell the entire thing to a bigger gaming studio, and hope they market it more and change the things that apparently make it unappealing. For me it is not so much the games, they are ok, but how many gamers know it exists? Anyway, let´s keep the faith

[primal widget]

I think around 90% of the marketing budget is still waiting to be used. right now the focus is narrowed down to mainly gauntlet, get that game to a super polished state, and implement other features, and then start the big marketing campaign.

basically we are in a real open beta and in the building phase right now.

[dusk siren]

I think the million player signup is a bait that has been used dozens of times in web3, certainly in the IMX ecosystem (GU/GOG). I don't believe any person in charge of an economy ( @minor pagoda ) would vote for launching with just supply and no demand and leave it like that for months. I hope next week is the turning point.
It does feel to me that they have not been watching any competition in the web3 gaming space, certainly in terms of economy.

We keep comparing to web2 games which is way too big of a leap. We are funded by Web3 and should build from there. A good economy with balancing mechanics can scale from 1000 players to millions. Khaled in Bigtime (ex-illuvium) really nailed that part. It does sound simple to not add supply (throw around tokens and print fuel) without there being demand (a fun game where you utilize those assets). Yet it seems like we have to discover it all the hard way. In the meantime there are hundreds of examples out there.

[thorny crater]

Im down for this. This fee/tax is a write off and the current dao create 19:1 ratio for ever land fuel sold is insane

[dusk siren]

the difference is that illuvium has not really tried to tap in to the demand side yet. Imo fun should always come first in a game but in web3 games we also have the money part which sometimes outweighs the fun. There probably should be a time and place for both as long as it is somewhat balanced. I believe the economy could be succesful with less than tens of thousand of paying players. Again the perfect example would be Bigtime where the reward side of being active in the ecosystem is top heavy. Translating that to Illuvium there could be a very competitive scene where 100 players carry the entire economy because there actually is something to chase (status, fun, cosmetic NFTs, $ILV or whatever carrot) even if there are 100 value extractors for each of those players.

[thorny crater]

Conseguir experience > Roi in the begining. The ROI will come naturally if people are having fun and paying to do so.

My opinion:
Arena- I just don’t play. My cousins/friends have been trying to get me to play tft for years and I just don’t lol. BUT they love it so I’m here for this focus to be #1

Ow- no complete story or mechs. Just catch them all and that’s it. Has to be more then just catch & sell mechs

Zero- should be a stronger support of the top two somehow. Right now it’s just a feature to me or a weaker version “share holder” type investment

[thorny crater]

I like it lol. I wish I could buy ring nuts right now haha

It cost me to farm them and I can even sell them. Foxtro tango whiskey

[hasty wagon]

gm. what's happening to our ILZ

[hasty wagon]

damn. so we're all in this shit huh

[grand silo]

pretty much

[hasty wagon]

f'n $20k-$30k spent for my T4 land lol

[grand silo]

me to maybe 1/2 that but still massive chunk for me

dw 1st mover advantage incoming

[hasty wagon]

wdym?

[quick pivot]

I don't understand why they don't increase the economy between the 3 games. For example Zero Drone & Armor skins increase the chance to catch illuvials in OW. The illuvials you catch in OW can be used in Arena & only a limited amount of Illuvials can be used in Arena for free without catching them in OW. So each game pushes the other and revenue could be increased.

[hasty wagon]

i havent really been into what's happening. But what is largely the problem?

no one wants to play Overworld? or Arena?

[grand silo]

pretty much its been like that for a while now

[quick pivot]

Yes, only a few people are playing

[hasty wagon]

which one is primary problem?

OW?

[grand silo]

nice and pretty but thats it

[hasty wagon]

like drop rate is bad?

or nothing to do? etc.

[tough galleon]

Do I need to play Illuvium OW to get a land plot? and also do i need to invest on buying lands and how to buy?

[thorny crater]

There are no mech in OW

Other than catch them all, and if your lucky you can sell one for a good price.

But the story as hooked as it got me just drop off completely after the tutorial.

And once you catch’em all…then what?

Plus I get tired of doing math for every game action I take

Shoot something that .03, missed a catch that .06, travel, etc etc.

It’s so much to keep up with. I play as a sole proprietor right now so I can lower my tax rates in america. All these cost are busines expenses and there is no way to keep up with them other than. Pausing, write it down, then take another action.

So when I, a web 2 guy plays ow in paid stages. It feels like work

BUT the first two month were fun catching then all

If I made enough I’d make it an LLC LOL

T0 is my favorite runs. No think just chilling, vibing, got my music on, and just enjoying the game.

But if I want 50 ring nuts that take like 45min-1hr plus to get.

[tough galleon]

Won't I get any land just by playing? Do I really need to invest and buy land plot?

I've been playing the f2p plot for 2 days and I enjoyed it but all I wanted was to earn so I thought I can earn from it

I am asking because I want to know if do I really need to invest to buy lands?

and earn

[hasty wagon]

wdym by this? you pay fuel or something for every action/

i've just been playing ILZ with my T4 but haven't been selling any fuel.. do i get small profits here?

[thorny crater]

So a tage 3 run is very cheap now but when it first came out it was 10-15$ cost of fuel
So let’s break down cost that imo take away for the game experience:

1. cost for run- easy I like it and we start with 4000 energy
2. any thing you shoot to mine rocks/plant cost 100 energy. So 40 mikes it’s 10-15$ cost from step 1
3. to catch illuvials you need a CURED shared. So that a min 2 runs, mine the raw shared go back and cure it or buy cured shards from the market
4. need plants? Ring nuts keep your guys fighting aka replenishes stamina so they don’t pass out in a stage run. 100 point per plant which is the runs is 10$ that’s about ~.25 per mine or plant. You can’t buy plants ata all in the market

This was my idea but didn’t get great feed back to much. But hoping there is some kind of middle ground

#1302316206895792218 message

Exactly. I don’t enjoy stage 1-3 runs anymore bc the game experience is constantly stopped for me. I watch my Pennie’s being spent since I was a kids lol. Cutting grass to to buy a Pokémon or yugioh pack was my go to as a kid haha

But once the work was done I could enjoy the game. OW the work doesn’t stop.
Or
At least give a summary report that I can download per run breaking down cost so I don’t have to think about it, but just be aware of it

[sage bough]

What's the conversion rate on blood plasma to ILV tokens?

[thorny crater]

My college days 😅 sometime is got so bad I couldn’t afford ramen and was thinking about going to bob’s sperm bank
“You beat it cause we need it” hahah

But plasma was enough in the end

https://tenor.com/view/if-youre-good-at-something-never-do-it-for-free-joker-gif-14497358

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-drinking-laughing-hahaha-hilarious-gif-1476473032873903564

[mortal mural]

i'been getting 1 blueprint a day for a few days now.

https://tenor.com/view/tired-sleep-sleepy-penguin-goodnight-gif-10899469890450300752

[rapid tartan]

which is exactly why 19:1 needs changed, it's a silver bullet. Sure, it wont solve every problem, but we need to start solving problems where we can control them, and it 1000% has turned thousands of eyes away.

[rapid tartan]

yeah the DAO takes 95% of fuel sales so people arent motivated to play the game because its theres no balance of fun and earnings, its unfun with no earnings, if one offset the other things would change but the dao is greedy and stubborn and would rather watch the ship sink then control the controllables

[thorny crater]

I did on my t2 for like 4-5 days now I’m back to nothing 😅 but it be like that sometimes

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/it-be-like-that-sometimes-like-that-sometimes-snoop-dogg-sometimes-just-like-it-gif-12501830

[thorny crater]

It do, it do

[molten kite]

We should.be able to use our own fuel

[tardy falcon]

u can

[molten kite]

From zero into OW

[tardy falcon]

u can

[molten kite]

I been away for a while, was there annoucment?

[tardy falcon]

while back yes

just click on the fuel numbers (top right) in zero... then send

[lyric hamlet]

How long does it take to do a fuel run on a t3 and t4

I still can't believe the Illuvium team thought they could sell a t5 for millions lmao

All that speculation talk back in 2021/2022

Boy were we full of joy and hope

[twin sequoia]

That was BTC at first, keep faith 🙂

[thorny crater]

i think this is the first time i found bio dat out of older. i dont have stage 2, but jsut got stage 3 rham

[thorny crater]

just need one more bio data..uintil the rest get unlocked

i lie two lol

[pearl ferry]

You know you listed too low when it sells instantly 🫣🤣

[mortal mural]

How low did you listed?

[radiant sky]

you listed for lowest price possible?

[pearl ferry]

I think I missed the background on my illuvitar

[sharp jolt]

The whole system is getting an overhaul?

[steady wasp]

Any advice on selling fuel from my plot. I listed some at 0.01 (market price) but none of it has sold. Are people listing it cheaper or is it just that I need to wait longer?

[steady wasp]

Ouch 📉 Thanks.

[tulip perch]

and so it was born

[celest wagon]

Our Blueprints are not worth anything, it's too easy to own them.

[rapid tartan]

Plenty of feedback has been provided, people have no desire to play an underdeveloped game when the earnings are low, its a crypto game, thats why most people are here, every time there's ever been a vote/poll its always the dao on one side and gamers on the other, since the dao always gets there way, they stay and the gamers leave, very simple equation. People wouldnt be dumping their land if there was any hope, but 19:1 is absolutely 0 hope.

[rapid tartan]

Btw I never said cheap fuel drives people away, you said that. My arguement actually was that starting with expensive fuel was a major contributor to driving people away.

[pearl marten]

Soooo ... next week we get MCs and BPs right?
I can't imagine anyone working anymore from the 23rd onwards

[vivid lava]

Is there any hope in this game? I invested in the land pre sale a while ago and everything has dumped so hard.....

[hoary gazelle]

@south mural everytime i ready this Chat its you talking the Game down. Bro why u Play and hang around Here If the only reason you do is criticize the Game ?
Maybe spend some time to Help the Team getting a better resolv than complaining.
Its so annoying for me and keep the mood of this Channel down all the time.

[grand silo]

fs Hammy dont disagree with most of what you say, but man you just dont want to give it a rest. Why not say your piece then sit back and see what happens.

[sharp jolt]

Apparently the system is getting a major overhaul guys. No need to worry

[hoary gazelle]

pls just tell me how i can mute you in discord i dont find the button for it Edit: Did find it 🙂

[sharp jolt]

You may not like how he says things, but imo he isn’t wrong by any means

[rapid tartan]

This entire IP was singlehandedly built by funding from Zero. So I dont know what you're on about saying how irrelevant it is to it's success. It could have created revenue, but nobody is motivated to interact with an overly inflationary 95% taxed system, it's braindead to think anyone would be excited about that exept the dao, which is the true reason for the downfall of this brand. You have a severe misunderstanding about the core problems of this IP, people dont want to play because theyve grown apathetic to it, fuel pricing cant fix that. You keep talking yourself in circles, and youre not solving any issues, you sound like every conversation ive ever had with dao members and its no surprise you guys all sit there with your thumbs up your asses and blame all the things outside of your control instead of focusing on the things you can change. You also just dont listen to feedback at all, here I am providing feedback on behalf of 10-20 Americans and you just simply dont understand and want to argue, it's not an arguement, I'm giving you the exact reasons why me and my guild isnt playing and you're trying to debate me that those aren't the real reasons, it's incredibly entertaining tbh.

it's insane how much you assume, and try to think for others, youre once again entirely missing your mark here and have no idea what im talking about

[rapid tartan]

Oh I get it now, the reason you don't understand any of this is because you have no idea how funnels and loops work. You don't understand that if there was a bigger rev split, then people would use their land to generate resources, to send to themselves in OW, and it would be highly likely that DUE to this, they would buy extra fuel, and the networking affect would happen where they actually recommend a good game to others. I keep forgetting that you have no idea how sales and psychology works, youre seeing this entire thing from a very micro level, and I'm looking at it from a macro lense. Your head is literally in your ass.

It's called a domino affect, it's one of the most basic things ever, google is a great place for asking questions and learning, so long as you know how to ask good questions.

[sharp jolt]

I agree that the devs have had a ton of help and the main issue is that no one wants to play the game(s), but you don’t think landowners earning more would put butts in seats?

[rapid tartan]

This also must be your first ever crypto game, 99% of them arent fun, but are able to generate profitable volume (people and money) because they have a better revenue system.

If there is no hope for revenue, then people wont even TRY, this is a very simple concept to understand. Look at any other crypto game.

Refer back to my arguement above talking about balancing either fun or revenue, and when one is lacking then the other needs to compensate, most simple formula...

Nobody will participate in a 95% tax, you would get a lot more participates with an even 50/50 split

More participants, equals a compounding affect of new players, "more, begets more", ever heard that saying?

you must be very young and not from the united states

Not true, I'm speaking for 14 people in my guild who think youre a complete idiot for trying to tell us that our reasons arent real.

I'm glad you think it's funny because we are in a call laughing at you bud.

Where you from Hamster?

Let me guess, double vaxxed european kamala harris supporter

Well then stop acting like a tard and start listening to peoples feedback. Feedback is reality, not whatever your idea is. Youre gung ho pushing this narrative that your reason is the only reason, and its stupid dude.

Your reason is absolutely a part of the equation, I'm not denying that, but you need to understand rev % is a huge turn off to most people as well.

Even if there is no rev right now, what people THINK and PERCIEVE, is a major determining factor in peoples decision making process.

Even if the IP was a success, I still wouldnt be motivated to play with such an opressive inflationary tax.

It's levels of greed i would never support.

It's not an arguement, its a back and forth of you not wanting to listen to honest feedback from a decent group of people.

The only winning here would be if we could both walk away with more understanding. I said your side was valid, you said mine wasn't so for me I win.

It's probably about your nap time, I'll let you go.

Why are you ashamed/afraid to say where you're from just curious?

Usually adults aren't...

this is just my wallet, and if you combined all the wallets in my guild, we own a significant chunk of gods unchained and chronoforge assets, would have been happy to support this IP more if there wasnt so much DAO greed...definitely not a terrible guild, we love to support games

Once again, our reasonings for not playing arent arguements, its funny you still think feedback is an arguement

Wrong again. We care more about fairness than ROI. ROI is almost non existent in crypto games, but fairness does exist in many of them. We are men of principal. We aren't bitter at all, none of us participated in the dutch auction and were all able to snipe our land for prices we have been happy about. Expectations for us are low in crypto games, but conceptually we like the direction and the technology, which is why we are financially supportive. Once again youre focused on micro perspectives and we are focused on macro.

[prisma trout]

@rapid tartan
I agree with you 100%. Hamster is very opinionated & will only see his side as valid. It's pointless to argue with someone who is stuck in egocentrism stage of life.

[rapid tartan]

And now your arguement has gone full circle into what I said your endgame arguement would be.

[prisma trout]

@rapid tartan
Point taken. He keeps posting laughing emojis because that's a defense mecanism

[rapid tartan]

try rereading this, I predicted you from the start with your asinine logic

Illuvium has rebalanced just about every single other thing that "was meant to be this way from the beginning", but autistically sticks to this non working overly taxed overly inflated formula of 19:1, you've made me incredibly happy saying what you just said, and with that I rest my entire case.

This entire back and forth could have been saved if you would have just taken my original comment for what it was worth, but it took a lot of paving the path of your bullshit for you to finally get back to saying what I knew you were thinking all along.

[prisma trout]

@south mural
We're just trying to point out that you are very one sided in your arguments & won't listen to reason, not personally attacking you. Facts are facts. I read all the posts in here & you continually respond with the same argument. It just gets old most of the time. 90% of the time I don't say anything because, as now, you would take it as an attack. You have been very helpful to other players maximuzing the plots & such. That's a good thing. It just seems you're stuck on the same argument & when people's opinions differ you get angry
& defensive. People are allowed to voice independent reactions and opinions. If we all thought the same way this world would be pretty boring...a hive mentality

[rapid tartan]

It flopped because once people realized they couldnt sell fuel into a 19:1 market they quit. It flopped because once people realized they couldnt even collect their pennies, and that even at scale 5% would be meaningless, it was disheartening. That's the sole reason most people quit. I actually love Overworld and my friends and I think it's fun, but greed is not acceptable. Until you understand these points then you will understand nothing other than the psychotic loop your mind is currently in.

[prisma trout]

@south mural
That I agree with. It's just that with economy the way it is people don't have the money required sometimes to be able to play a game that's pretty boring. I've nearly given up on Zero as I'm a widow & don't have the funds anymore to even buy coins to speed up progress the build my plot & lots of storage I still need because of wasting my time with continual plants. It's very frustating for everyone right now.

[rapid tartan]

Not being able to use your own fuel because you had to "sell it first" at 95% tax, then rebuy it, was idiotic. Sure it was fixed, but by the time it was people were already gone. I recommend studying economics, sales, marketing, and psychology, then maybe we would have a more intelligent conversation.

Never underestimate the power of a good first impression, especially in gaming. Gamers are ruthless critics.

Ruthless critics are vital to a games success though, just as much as absorbing and understanding the feedback and problems, which clearly still seems to be going over your head because you still think this is an arguement instead of honest feedback.

Zero is where the loop starts, if the loop is bad then the other games will suffer. It's ok that you dont understand, but its foolish to argue with people providing feedback.

[prisma trout]

@rapid tartan 👍

[rapid tartan]

And I dont hate zero, or any of the games, I think theyre all cool and fun, and have a phenomenal vibe with triple A sounds, graphics, and technology, my problem is with the underlying financial mechanics under the hood.

[tardy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-eating-amc-perfectly-popcorn-mouse-yum-yum-delicious-gif-15877432887457947334

[prisma trout]

@tardy falcon
Ikr...too cute

[rapid tartan]

The shows over Ratty lol, I'm done with this back and forth, it is what it is. Happy to see you around though. Cheers.

[tardy falcon]

Cool seeing u too… things will get better in illuvium space… sometimes change is hard… and since there are so many limbs to the project, change also takes a lot of time. But they not dumb dumbs they know they need to change in order to hit the mark.

[harsh burrow]

Hello
I had bought a ilv0 land. Where can I see it please I'm on illuvium website but don't know where to check

[tardy falcon]

U have to sign in with passport and link the wallet with the land

[harsh burrow]

Where can I link it ?

[tardy falcon]

Profile —> account settings —> link secondary wallet

[harsh burrow]

Ah ok I get it

Thanks mate

[prisma trout]

@tardy falcon
Haven't chatted for a bit. Hope you're doing well.

[dusty sky]

gm gm! whats wrong with ZERO. I've contructed some buildings then after 24hrs there's no progress wtf haha

[prisma trout]

@dusty sky
I think there are a few bugs still. I believe a patch is coming out soon if I remember correctly.

@dusty sky
I bought a builder a while back & it just disppeared.
Try going out & signing in again. Sometimes that works

[dusty sky]

owww sorry! Thanks for clarification. I meant no progress in construction

prolly bugs

[dusty sky]

i see! Okay no worries

thanks fam

[radiant sky]

Cheers mate, I’ve noticed that you often share your concerns and negative opinions about the game. I completely understand that not everything will align with everyone’s expectations, and feedback (whether positive or critical) is important for improvement. You’re not entirely wrong in some of the points you raise, and I appreciate that you care enough about Illuvium to voice your thoughts regularly.

That said, I’d like to ask: what’s your ultimate goal in consistently sharing these negative opinions.
In my opinion it’s crucial for us to foster a welcoming and constructive atmosphere here, and repeatedly emphasizing the game’s flaws might discourage new players who haven’t yet had a chance to explore it for themselves.
I'm seriously curious, since you never miss a chance to express to newcomers but also longtime community members, how bad the games are, that it's almost impossible to ever get some new players etc. ... like... what's the point?

[hoary gazelle]

Problem is that he is just sending only negative vibes but i bet he is no softwaredev and never worked in that way.
And i read this posts for a year at least in a frequency that is not fair in any way. if people want to be frustrated because they see their money flew away i get it, but thats the market and overexpectations. People need to realize that its a POC right now and u can have a live watch of the status of the game. Whats beautiful to watch by the way. And while being in development there is no time for fixing the peoples problem with prizes on the market, because its just irrelevant to fix when u need to build the infrastructure.

And now is christmas Time in here and harmony

[prisma trout]

@dusty sky
Welcome. I hope you find a solution. Usualy I just try restart . Truth it works better than wsiting for update. You can send in a bug report, though. They do pay attention to those

@hoary gazelle
Amen to that! It's a time for peace and hope. I would love to see the spirit of Christmas kindness every day. Thanks for bringing that up 😄

And yes, while it's frustrating it is cool to watch the developmemt of the game. My eldest son is a programmer, dev, coder, etc. He says the samevthing...it's a work in progress when I get frustrated with Zero.

[hoary gazelle]

I need to ask 😄 How is that meant by your son ? 😄 There is a progress in the game or a progress of you getting frustrated xD

[radiant sky]

It's not my intention to demonize you, nor do i propose you should lie about stuff.
It's also not about you helping others or making suggestions, that's appreciated
It's also not about that conversation right before, it's more like constant negativity every couple days since weeks if not months.

it's like the post above.
There was absolutely no need but somehow you felt the urge to say "Bug fixes are few and far between. Support is almost nonexistent"
Which is in my opinion not even true, sure it takes sometimes a while until support answers, but it's far from nonexistent.

[radiant sky]

it's not even the point if it is true or not.
The point is there was no need at all to mention it, yet you felt the urge to add it and create that super negative touch.
it's like you write a post, and then think about how to express that words as negative as possible before hitting enter. 😄

[tardy falcon]

I got a reply on s3 data banks not translating when on purchased plot… couple weeks later. That’s prompt 😁

[tardy falcon]

Doing alright ty… Life is a trip.
Nice to see u back. Hope all is good 🌱

[sharp jolt]

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t agree with everything he says, but the one comment regarding the devs already having a lot of ideas to work with was on point.

I do think people would play if they could profit off land though.

[radiant sky]

not sure if you trolling now, or really are serious.
NVM i give up asking

have a nice evening nonetheless

never said you should... I even explicitly said that this is not the intention.
It seems you went full defend mode and actually don't get anymore what's it about.

but again... have a nice evening nonetheless.