🎮〕illuvium-zero

[radiant sky]

no need to sugar coat things for me. 🙂

[timber sapphire]

what is ICC again? sorry im bad with abreviations

[mortal bough]

@radiant sky I buy a corn field IRL, you sell it to me, but after I buy it you come by and take all the good nutrient filled dirt out of my land which causes me to produce less corn than it did.

Whats that called?

[timber sapphire]

community council?

[radiant sky]

yes

[timber sapphire]

oh yeah i like those, i get why i wasnt chosen such good other ones

[radiant sky]

just btw... editing a ping in doesn't actually ping people 🙂

[mortal bough]

Lol

[timber sapphire]

what does the I stand for? @radiant sky

[grand silo]

for those that like to compete on whatever metric

[radiant sky]

i know how it feels.
And i understand those who wanted to transfer their fuel to OW to play with it. Thats unfortunately short term a bad situation.
For those who want to just sell fuel, likely not much changed. Maybe there were a few buyers lost for a short time because it got expensive again, could also be that in total there was more revenue with fuel because more people buy when cheap. Who knows really.
The systems in place how fuel is going to be balanced is well known to the public since IIP-39.
Not all liked it... i personally had some big oppositions against it and communicated it well all over the place. (some might remember)

[radiant sky]

Illuvium

[timber sapphire]

oh im dumb lol

[radiant sky]

just lazy... could have easely gone to a governance thread to check pings or proposals or whatever where the councils are mentioned 😄

[timber sapphire]

true

[fair temple]

I should have jumped into the chat... you could have pressed my name to see it

"illuvihub" ofcourse

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-ventura-pet-detective-jim-carrey-comedy-duh-gif-11333313905875935459

[timber sapphire]

how are things in the community council? already settled in?

[fair temple]

i actually pressed my name, realised the role wasn't called "illuvium community council" and found out i was just like Brian 😄

[timber sapphire]

so i was right to ask haha

[broken roost]

i believe my plot has not updated?

[fair temple]

we are getting there! A lot of it is still to design your own work. Which takes some discipline. But we are working on a lot of things. even more than back during epoch 8 where I thought internally we had quite a few plans

[mortal bough]

So you agree with my example and the strong word associated with it.

[timber sapphire]

Nice! excited to see whats gonna happen

[broken roost]

do we have new game disgner already?

[radiant sky]

not really, no.

[fair temple]

That's not our jurisdiction... But if you want me to pass that question on to IMC then i'll tell @tawny wasp to then ask them during the next meeting 😛

[mortal bough]

Lol, well, whats that called then?

[broken roost]

if there is, i believe its in the community's great interest to know about his ideas

[radiant sky]

it's balancing.
There was never a promise made you can do x runs with y tier of land in z time period.
There were assumptions and "calculations" done what might be, but never was an official statement made to that as far as i remember.

Your revenue you make (or fuel you produce) as a landowner was always intended and still is directly linked to the DAU of the ecosystem who buy fuel.
The more fuel-buyers there are, the more revenue you make the more OW runs you could do with your own fuel.

[broken roost]

are patch-notes-1-0-3 live? my passive generation is still the same

[fair temple]

I think so too 👍 On the other hand, Kieran has shared his desires to have Training halls and such, moreover there is still Megacities and blueprints and such to be added and designed. So with that in mind, it may be a little while before the future vision of a new designer becomes relevant, right?

I mean maybe you want even more plans xD But i think we have a lot to look forward to already

[radiant sky]

that's a very old patch, ser 😄

[timber sapphire]

are the training halls gonna be this year or someting to look out for later?

[broken roost]

then my plot is fked 😂

[radiant sky]

there were other balance patches after that mate

[mortal bough]

So balancing. Balancing the supply and demand right.

Why does that come at my expense and not the companys expense?

[broken roost]

my worries are these are all community ideas, implementing them so that they fit the game structure is not that simple

[fair temple]

Wasn't there an official proposal passed around adding training Grounds? (GFP-1) So then that's something to look out for later. I don't know any deadlines/timelines 🙂

[broken roost]

then nvm 😅

[timber sapphire]

well good thing that they are already working on it then i guess

[radiant sky]

It was decided to balance it on the supply side, not demand side.

How would you have balanced it?

[fair temple]

summary image:

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-tony-stark-probably-not-gif-24786485

but who knows

[timber sapphire]

what are GFP's and how can i find this myself?

[fair temple]

Totally. It's good that you asked. I hope Caveman will follow up on the question either this week or next. we already had a number of topics we wanted covered 😄

[radiant sky]

#1260149125371006986 message

[fair temple]

go to "snapshot.org" and search for ILV. then you find the different councils (should look into Illuvium Main Council). You can scroll back through all the IIPS and their results.

[timber sapphire]

spoon already linked it haha but thx

[broken roost]

btw thanks to Spoon and Garf, you are making Zero chat friendlier and less toxic, and thats not easy

[fair temple]

maybe you wanted to find GFP 1 specifically. that's not in IIP 60 😄

[timber sapphire]

yeah oke, just wanted to know what GFP was standing for, i didnt phrase that well mb. are there more of those or is that the only one?

[fair temple]

we passed GFP 2 not too long ago.
#1286377714038739018 message

[fair temple]

or you mean... more abbreviations? LOL

IIP, ICCP, GFP, GIP, GCCP (or GICP hmmm)

Illuvium Improvement Proposals
Illuvium Configuration Change Proposals
Game Feature Proposals
Governance Improvement Processes
Governance Configuration Change Proposals

[radiant sky]

when looking for IIPs i always go via IIP-ICCP forum (which should be renamed probably :D)

[timber sapphire]

oh cool didnt know this was discussed before

[timber sapphire]

cool ill check it out

[fair temple]

i spelled them out for you 😄

[timber sapphire]

yeah that helped a lot haha

[fair temple]

I know right, now you know exactly what to do

[radiant sky]

did it tho?

[timber sapphire]

im not that dumb oke

[radiant sky]

So what's the difference exactly of a GCCP and a GIP again?

[timber sapphire]

ill have to read about that👀

[fair temple]

the I is changed to become C's 👀

[timber sapphire]

everybody waking up tomorrow wondering what all this spam is in the zero chat

[radiant sky]

is just another governance thursday in zero chat

🙃

[fair temple]

already thursday... good night 😄

[timber sapphire]

yeah i need to sleep too

[radiant sky]

almost 2 am... i actually wanted to do a s3 run, but kept chatting here with friends

[timber sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-your-friend-buddy-phillip-terrance-south-park-im-not-your-buddy-guy-gif-22089587

[fair temple]

i'll tell M0z4rt to go offline soon as well.

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-have-any-friends-kyle-broflovski-south-park-s14e4-you-have0friends-gif-22863028

[timber sapphire]

Nah jk

(Don't ban me)

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/hobbit-tempt-gandalf-dont-tempt-me-gif-5609024

[mortal bough]

Obvious answer would be for them to create more demand at there expense. That is a net positive choice, decreasing the supply was a triple negative choice.

Negative = Agravated the retail investor/player by reducing production and decreasing the land asset value.
Negative = Did not improve the game or increase fuel price
Negative = created distrust

Potential Net Positive= make the game better, increase fuel price, and increase retail investor profits, asset value and trust

[radiant sky]

They are trying to increase demand with next updates, but that isn't done in a snap.
What do you mean with "at there expense" exactly?

distrust is mostly created by not informed people.
As i said, balancing system were publicly known. (Don't say it was a great idea trying to artificially increase the fuel price, imo it was not.)
And they had to make a decision, either decrease production or let price fall and see what happens.
IMC decided to decrease the production.

By the way, if you do not like what they did.
There's always the way to go the route of an ICCP to change the systems in place.

[mortal bough]

Company expense = hiring more talent to work on the games, marketing, buying the fuel to create the demand, save that fuel to use for future tournament winnings or other events to attract new players.

The ICCP starts with the feedback ideas forum right? They pick and choose what is important and worth tabling.

Distrust by uninformed... We just proved the misinformation out there was actually that the fuel production buffed up in the beginning was misinformation and not true.

The company/team remains disconnected, posting last minute townhalls in the announcements is a pure example of not really wanting community feedback.

[mortal bough]

I think the knee jerk descision to reduce fuel production was not smart. They have all the tools at thier disposal to purchase enough fuel to hold up the price until the demand is there. The demand they are responsible for creating which I have no control over.

[radiant sky]

ser, you can't expect the company buying your stuff when your high risk assets don't perform as you like.

hiring more talent is for sure an option, but short term it would change nothing, that's a long term solution.
it's not like "i need 5 more devs and tomorrow they are here and work on 100% capacity." that's not how it works.

They did marketing you can see in the financial reports. Maybe ask ICC for more details on how exactly marketing dollars were spent.
But imo they shouldn't do marketing now, with half the products being buggy and unbalanced and miss features to make the games more fun and sticky.
Doing marketing now would probably be a net negative, but who knows.

Most start in #1020759212172775464 yes. You can brainstorm ideas and gather sentiment to see if you get enough people backing you up and if it actually is in communities sense to write an ICCP.
But you can also just write an ICCP and post it in #1126838877429182506 and try your luck. (not recoomended)

It wasn't misinformation, read the patch. Fuel production got clearly buffed.

Communication was for sure better in earlier days and there is a lot of space for improvements.
I really hope it gets better this epoch with some changes in the councils.
We shall see soon.

i'm sorry, it's almost 3am, have to sleep.
but i will back read and answer as soon as i can 🙂

[mortal bough]

We can pick this up another time 🥂

@radiant sky https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1288646794292756590

[mortal bough]

I read the patch, reducing the building costs does not increase output/production.

Get to significant production slightly quicker, does not say 4x increase in fuel supply

[mortal bough]

Fuel production nerfing. Hardly a comparable, the previous patch is like giving someone a $.10 and then the new patch is taking back $10

[iron laurel]

Are we still going to need to burn Illuvials to create skins? If yes, how many?

[random siren]

Only Aaron would probably know that. do you want to ping him?

[icy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[whole spear]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-i-sense-much-fear-in-you-serious-gif-14586631

[random siren]

@bitter glade 😬

no fear

[bitter glade]

I don’t know. My original design was to require one (to act as a bit of a sink on the bottom end) but the game design team shut me down on that and changed it.

I have asked them to reconsider and I think the feedback is mixed (I don’t want to speak for all of them).

I feel like emotional connections are built from the contrast of happiness and sadness. If you don’t have one you can’t have the other.

If we want you to bond strongly with your Atlas we need more than just for you to name it.

Having the option to put it in a blender for fashion and then NOT doing that, I think would help. Or maybe I’m just a sadist.

What do YOU guys think? You’re the ones with the ultimate say.

[broken roost]

jesus fuck hire game designers!

good night

[random siren]

why so angry?

[iron laurel]

I was just thinking it was a way to burn Illuvials. Scoriox is asking on Twitter about rerolls and I started wondering how many Illuvials will be being burned and how many I need.

In my working life I decide whether animals I care about become breeding stock and stay around or become food and die. From my experience with this though, you are right. I can raise steers for food because I can keep their mothers. You learn which ones to become attached to and I think the attachment is stronger because of that.

[random siren]

Torial living that farm life!

[iron laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/boerenkool-kool-boeren-bachten-gif-11646117

[bitter glade]

the game design team

jesus fuck hire game designers!

🧐

I just said that the team is on the fence about this, and I'm asking the community for their thoughts.

[bitter glade]

Ok so we are aligned on that. As for the exact mechanic, it was only ever to burn one to get one (plus the other incredients). Generally you'd be burning a low stat / low level since it is the cheapest. And that would raise the floor price. I know there are good and bad parts of raising the floor but I think overall it's better to have a higher one, while also having the natural game produce lower ones such that people can do as you say: farm.

[iron laurel]

I completely agree. I will make sure I keep at least one extra Illuvial for all the BPs I find just in case. Thanks for the answer. Appreciate it.

[past zodiac]

As an additional way to burn illuvials, this is a good idea. This is also another connection between the games. But it definitely shouldn't be the only or main way to burn illuvials. Not everyone has land.

[bitter glade]

You don't need land for this.

[past zodiac]

I understand this, you can always buy a bluprint on the market.

[swift creek]

Hello guys I just updated my singularity scanner to lvl 4 and since then I tried twice both time the progress bar doesn’t move staying at 23hours 43 minutes. I tried restarting game. Logout and then login again. Still same issue

Can anyone help me please

[spice crystal]

Can't generate fuel. Stuck again and again

Frustrated with the game. What the heck is going on

[vivid cipher]

The most common issue with anything getting stuck is that the power system is not displaying or not working properly. Upgrade the power stations next to your scanner.

[spice crystal]

Same but i have so many power station. Think that's sufficient.

The game says its enough.

Whats the use is ingame says its sufficient but doesn't work

[swift creek]

I thaugh that aswell but it’s run at 93% efficiency

[vivid cipher]

If so it’s bugged.

[vivid cipher]

Increased efficiency for a scanner does not have anything to do with power. Not really.

[swift creek]

I can definitely tell you it is powered

[spice crystal]

It requires only 1500 power. I have 7-8 station near it

[vivid cipher]

Power from power stations is divided between any structures within range.

And there are consistently bugs regarding how the power system works. It can often display that it has power when the game acts as if it does not.

It’s broken. It should not be this way but it often is this way.

I am not guaranteeing that this is actually why your thing does not work.

I’ve also asked you in the past about what version of the game you use

[serene iris]

Hi Aaron my thoughts and they could both be done

Option 1
Put 2 illuvials of the same kind in a blender and get a freshly rerolled illuvial. Effectively a new illuvial so you loose the number you found the illuvial its basically a new nft not a modified one

Option 2
Training gym allows you to add 1 point to 1 random non maxed out stat. Maybe can only be used maximum twice per illuvial and the cost is exponentially higher on the second go

[vivid cipher]

You should report the issue to the devs using the in game issue reporter.

[pearl marten]

I've said it countless times that removing this burn mechanic would be a terrible idea. Firstly because it would make skins (at some point) being almost worthless - as more people will eventually get BPs everyone will be able to create x and y skin - adding the burn mechanic is a way to ensure some skins will be valuable and keep their price especially for example in set 2 when new people enter the system. Maybe someone holds 500 Atlases just for selling skins when the Atlas supply will become very low
And secondly it is a VERY much needed burn mechanic. Why do we need tens of thousands (maybe more) of unwanted illuvials?! Give them some utility, let the economy decide which ones will worth something maybe just because their skins are badass

I can't say how upset i am seeing this and hope it can be brought back. I'm sorry to say this but too many questionable design decisions have been made since Johnny left (from the initial biodata and BP chances to the fact one can create infinite blueprints from a single biodata) and imo this would be a major fuck up - i can't see the entire picture as i don't have access to all the data but i can't possibly see how this is a good decision

@verbal igloo @minor pagoda @chilly shore

[cerulean steppe]

I agree. Our economy should be as complex as possible in order to become a stable economy. It is almost always better to have more actors/players and resources/blueprints trade/craft in all sorts of ways.

We want to encourage trading and one way is to require many types of resources from different games and players to craft something new.

Should there ever be a lack of Illuvials because we get so many new players, then the economists can use their screws and levers to increase their numbers. This is not different from real world economies.

Aaron mentioned game designers, who dismissed Illuvial burning. But we are also an economy and economists should have an equal voice, not just game designers.

[hearty cradle]

i thought blueprint is supposed to be rare?

[tropic monolith]

Is there like only 32 illuvatar to find?

[pearl marten]

Yes the original design would've made them rare ... as it is now most unlikely (especially as time goes by and more and more plots reach their full potential)

[real salmon]

Is the Illuvadex down ?

[rotund forum]

3rd day in a row I can´t complain here 🤪

[grand silo]

surprised to hear BPs are not rare especially the higher tiers

[swift creek]

Ok will try

[thorny crater]

Hard to say.

I haven’t heard a word in the supply of Illuviumals in a good while.

If there are 10k of each then no I wouldn’t want the burn aspect.
If there are 1million of each I would.

[thorny crater]

Went over this yesterday. The number of power stations doesn’t matter to much. Level > number

I have a lvl 8 and a lvl 6 power station while the rest are lvl 1 to get they fuel producer to work

[thorny crater]

They are now but go back and day and it’s nothing but people saying. There to hard to find, it’s not worth the fuel….no matter what ppl will complain.

It used to be somewhat easy, before the last update, people complain about that too

In the last 5 days today I got the t3 s1 Laura.

I been searching Atala stage 2/3 for 60+ days and today the stage 3 gave me an atlas s1 fact….i don’t understand that logic at all.

[fair temple]

You sound sarcastic... "our economy should be as complex as possible" doesnt sound like a good recommendation ^^

[graceful sleet]

When I want to sell fuel the illuvidex tell me that the average price is 0.001$. but If I want to buy the price is 6 times as high. How can that be ?

[cerulean steppe]

I mean complex, not complicated. Like an ecosystem that is more stable the more actors and interactions there are. An ecosystem with just 2 species won‘t exist for long.

[fair temple]

Fair enough. To me it sounded similar and we had enough complicated aspects in Illuvium 😄👍

[graceful sleet]

Thanks

[thorny crater]

You got the math down to a science lol

Me I just pic one battery and max it. The second one was an extra, counted wrong, so just moved it there to get it to work

[harsh dew]

Fuels history price

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nQtyjnkcQBtWkkiJxQLx5saXODA6NF8i8sPmsxbkLBE/edit?pli=1&gid=2104223220#gid=2104223220

[radiant sky]

never said it was a 4x buff in that patch, just said it was buffed with it, which it was.
(especially low tier)

[radiant sky]

Burning an Illuvial was 1 of 2 aspects making certain Skins rare and with that valuable. (if desired)
Later on when we are in set 2, 3 or 4 those skins will become rarer if there is a steadily growing playerbase since more people would possibliy want that skin, or the illuvial needed to craft it for it's own team. Making skins basically more rare and valuable the more time goes on.
Eliminating that mechanic, combined with the overshoot in BD-success rate in the early phase after launch and with the change from 45 to 15 armor skins there is not much giving Blueprints actually value.
The result of all that stuff will be a lot of owners of all the high stage BP's and skins going from a finite amount to craft to an infinite amount to craft.
I guess it could be said that the likelyhood is high of Blueprints being close to the same value than we saw with the alpha blueprints, adding an average fuel cost needed to find BD+BP on top of those prices and that's it.
But there won't be high value BP nor Skins i feel, never.

there is tho an advantage; WIth BP loosing value and Skins not need Illuvials anymore to craft, It pushes Skins out of BP to a price level where it possibly can easely compete with skins sold in beyond.

[fair temple]

The skins from Illuvium Beyond were pretty expensive though... 250 d1sks to get a mozart skin, 750 for the ranger skin in wave 2. 1000 d1sks (wave 1?) For the obelisk skin.

That was roughly 1500-8K$ investment just for a skin if you only bought regular d1sks.

Now of course you get all those d1sks and thereby illuvitars. But it took some deep pockets to obtain them.

Cant say the same thing about Gamestop mozart skin or samsung skins though 👀 if thats what you mean, fair enough 👍

[radiant sky]

collab skins are always fairly cheap.
Also the skins in collection i'm pretty sure they didn't cost at least 1500 bucks except for the obereum skin which was higher price.
Also keep in mind, the beyond skin you likely can attach to all armors not just to a specific armor line out of 15 lines, like those out of Zero BP's.
Also on another note, you can always sell all stuff you got to buy that skin, und you make an unknown % back of what you paid for. (maybe even make profit in the beyond skin buying process)

[cobalt ridge]

Is it still worth to buy land ?

[fair temple]

Also the skins in collection i'm pretty sure they didn't cost at least 1500 bucks
I'm not sure whether there will be skins for completing collections. Emotes, Drone blasts; sure. I guess it takes a bit longer to find out the collection rewards 😄

except for the obereum skin which was higher price.
The other reward based skins were at 250 and 750 d1sks bought at 8$ each. So still fairly pricy.

Also keep in mind, the beyond skin you likely can attach to all armors not just to a specific armor line out of 15 lines, like those out of Zero BP's.
This is a fair point. Curious how that would work.

Also on another note, you can always sell all stuff you got to buy that skin, und you make an unknown % back of what you paid for.
True. But there is no guarantee and you would still have an investment of 1500$+ for it. I guess that investment cost could be compared to buying a land. Then the skin being free, instead of having to craft them through the blueprint and required resources.

[lean bison]

Can I play Zero on desktop?

[pearl marten]

I don't think there's a point in starting a comparison between beyond skins and crafted skins as it's not the point.

As was said eliminating the burn mechanic combined with the biodata+bp success rate basically makes it that the 2nd potential revenue stream that would come from land(as initially stated) will be worthless in no time - see il zero alpha BPs
there are already a lot of T5S3 bio and blueprints found which should've been a very rare possesion, not to mention lower tiers - now if i have the option (as everyone else) to craft infinite blueprints out of any bio AND i don't need to burn an illuvial to produce that skin where's the value/rarity?

[mortal mural]

I agree with this. I think you still have an issue if demands is too high or too low on illuvials.

[knotty sable]

So a level one scanner only finds tier one illuvial’s? But you can still acquire stages 1-3?

[versed torrent]

Is there any explanation as to why the fuel trading mechanism is so obscure? Why is there no single set selling price that equals the purchase price, and why isn't this price tied to a specific amount of fuel without mysterious bonuses?

[foggy sage]

because that not exciting my guy

[broken roost]

this only works if illuvials eventually run out. Otherwise bps are worthless in both cases, with or without illuvial burning. The latter only has added value of the price of the illuvial, which does not go to the owner of the bp but to the owner of the illuvial, which eventually goes to the dao which provides the fuel to get that illuvial. Essnetially burning an illuvial only makes the skin more expensive and that extra goes to the dao

if illuvials run out, then yes you finally have a finite amount of skins, and can choose your price. Which is much better solved by just making bps an X amount times use

[pearl marten]

Illuvials are not infinite. At some point set 1 is going to end and that's it -> you can't get any of the current illuvials.

So your argument doesn't really stand because again, illuvials run out.

[radiant sky]

• fair, collection skins likely go more towards new stuff, like skins for zero/beyond album/illuvials, since the ranger and drone skins are already in with selling disks.

• was more like 5$ each, right?
  And lets not forget the goodies; silv2 discount + the free mega-disks for wave 3 with each 25 bought standard disks. One could argue that those benefits could be subtracted from the price.

• no guarantee for a total ROI, sure ... but a guarantee to get at least some $ back.
  Everyone can craft a skin if he has a blueprint, not just landowners just btw. and not sure it is a good comparison since at 1 place you buy a luxury item and on the other place an item that produces luxury items. 🤔

[wild token]

Questions.....the 15blue prints I think that we got from our land in Zero.....I don't see them when playing the new Zero. Any idea where they are?

[radiant sky]

there was a minting window back in february.
if you minted them, they should be in your wallet.

[broken roost]

My argument stand when illuvials run out, untill then you might just imagine then as infinite

[stuck vine]

down every day

[thorny crater]

Yeah this was voted on back in 2020-2021.

It should be simple as you sell fuel the dao takes a 95% fee/tax and you get you 5%

Instead for every fuel you sell the dao creates 19. So the bonus is the different in price of what fuel sells for vs what the land peeps sell for.

Very confusing and I can’t see any arguments as why it’s a good thing

Do we have any word of how many illivials there are in supply?

[vivid cipher]

Potential Supply of illuvials is infinite until the illuvial season ends.

[steep surge]

201 is the max level guys in the zero?

I don't get any more levels, is it limited?

[verbal igloo]

Yes

[rose thicket]

@verbal igloo would it be possible to get an AMA or blog post from the new "economist" on his/her initial thougths related to ILZ?

[verbal igloo]

Sure, I can forward the question to him

[tulip fox]

@vivid cipher can people without land use free plot for play and earn rewards from missions?

@verbal igloo

[radiant sky]

yes, you can do airdrop missions with the f2p plot.
please not that at the moment there is no season live.

[strong pewter]

What is the best way to sell fuel rn?

Is there just not enough demand?

Or maybe sell in packs of 10k+?

What is the right quantity to offer, you know?

[knotty sable]

I think you might make more of just using your fuel. Then sell everything from your travel.

[tulip lagoon]

Hi all.. Looking to dip my toes, would it be more benificial to get 3 teir 1 plots or 1 teir 2? Seem to be about the same price. TIA

[timber vault]

T2 because T1s are annoying with the constant bottlenecking and converting of fuels. slows you way way down. if you get a T2 with one of each fuel type its way more tolerable

[cinder crest]

can I do missions per land or is it just total

[thorny crater]

has anyone gotten a stage 2 or 3 blue print before the stage 1 blueprint?

ah nevermind

i need to stop searching them

I'd say make this an annoucment of some kind. Tag @ everyone in general or to the land-owner chats would be nice.

[broken roost]

And I, as a community member, answered

[foggy sage]

i love clearing 45 days worth of plants 10/10

[high sleet]

Hey Theodor I'd love to chat with them on the channel! Could dive into some really interesting topics

[rose thicket]

@verbal igloo this would be awesome…highly valued by the community!

[mortal mural]

I would love this too

[bitter glade]

Ok, champ.

[thin sphinx]

Hi there I recently purchased a land I’m trying to move some expiation buildings around but when I do so I get an error and the game crashes how do I fix this issue

[thorny crater]

Welp just bought a brand new never before olayed plot lol. T2 with 1 of each fuel

@south mural I’m build it like one of yours with max converters.

[amber atlas]

nice

[rose thicket]

what did that run you?

[thin sphinx]

is it worth selling my t1 land and gettingt2 if i intend to use the fuel rathe then sell it or better to buy a t2 and just keep both

[thorny crater]

$398.89 usd

Having all three fuels is just so nice

Bonus the free coins

[unborn basalt]

i been reading the chat here, and i just want to confirm, so zero lands won't be able to have for fuel to use in OW, thats correct?

welp i guess im done than, if i am forced to have to sell fuel to buy fuel to use in OW, and not buy a land to build so i can go past S0 i can spend that time in way better ways

good luck on the undercutting race is all i can say :/ then they wonder why lands value drops from 1200 so hard

[thin sphinx]

i ligit sent solon i had straight to my ow acc and used it to craft something if thats what your meaning

[tranquil sparrow]

how many ILV you guys got season 2? i don't aim for airdrop but got quite nice amount

[thin sphinx]

nice

[thorny crater]

Never thought to look

[thin sphinx]

is there a season running atm or are we in-between iv only just came back to the to the area

[tranquil sparrow]

daymnnnn that's a lot

[thorny crater]

Point don’t count

Just bragging rights this month

[thorny crater]

Sorry yeah you can send fuel from land to OW.

Meant to put an X lolz

[mortal bough]

No H20 is going to be a little challenging, not terrible.

[mortal bough]

Is this accurate? 735 usd

[thorny crater]

True one less crystal or two would have been a perfect plot

[thorny crater]

Yeah that was from the moment I took it.

Points don’t count tho

Those count

[mortal bough]

Mine is at 5ilv, was like dang need to play more lol 175 usd

[thorny crater]

Sorry had to add mor photos to discord selection lol. B

[mortal bough]

Nice

[tranquil sparrow]

it's enough to buy another T1 lolz

[mortal bough]

Well hopefully this is accurate, nice to get something back. More motivation for me to jump back into OW.

T2 is perfect, at least with one of each resource and each fuel

Especially while building with a max of 3 workers per plot

My first plot is at max pretty much at this point, has been fun building it and getting it dialed in.

2 in 1 is okay for me too, just more work, would not recommend for a first plot to own though. This was my 2nd. And I learned a lot building my first

I think like my overall land balance.

I have a 2 solon and 1 hyperion land, now getting a two hyperion land with one crypton or one solon would be okay to help balance overall.

Really wanting to get a megacity going. Missing two lamds to get it. Part of my daily routine is checking them for getting listed.

[brazen brook]

What do you recommend I build, more data banks or more material labs? to have more chances of finding blueprints

[minor hazel]

there's no benefit to having more databanks until you are literally about to run out of storage and you won't run out of storage until you find/research things

[grand silo]

nice rewards playing only on Zero

[signal maple]

I lost two weekly quest due to not able to reset daily goal, so sad for this month

[solar topaz]

stupid question (I know I am a little bit slow): I just tried to build a zero point transducer for the first time and found out it has completely changed its function compared to test nets. You used to be able to send materials to other plots through this. How can I now send stuff?

[slim wigeon]

wow also got like 10 ILV for only playing Zero this is insane. Thank you!

[minor hazel]

just click on the fuel display in the top right of the main screen and click the send fuel button that shows up below the fuel levels

[solar topaz]

no, not send to overworld. I mean send to a different land plot.

[zealous geyser]

Why does it say that i will now Enter free to play plot? How do i get other plots?

Do i need to reset plot and start al over again?

[minor hazel]

you buy other plots on the marketplace if you want fuel and blueprints for OW otherwise you play the f2p plot for fun

[marsh canyon]

Is there some future improvement on zero that will be added in the future to stick to it ( like minigame inside of possibilities to do other things than just production en scan ) ?

[quartz pond]

Same it s crazy 🤩🤩🤩

[thorny crater]

Welp I was wrong. I was confused on when each season started

Got a free t2 land in ilv rewards. With and extra 300$ to spare

[thorny crater]

I thought these wouldn’t count** I’m behind a season

[tranquil sparrow]

Do airdrop quest shared to be completed once or can be repeated for each land?

[hexed abyss]

Nice. Wow, I got similar rewards for season 2, also only playing Zero. Season 1 earned about 1/2 the reward-points but got only 0.3 ilv, so huge difference. Why so much for season2 I wonder?? Anyway, a nice bonus 🙏

[grand silo]

my first one was like 2/3rds the points and only got 0.4 ILV think they must have made some improvements to the rewards system to make it more even

[hexed abyss]

OK. Very nice rewards for season 2. Fingers crossed 🤞 season 3 will be similar...

[grand silo]

was thinking that myself as well

[ruby merlin]

Hello friends, is it useful to have the converters at 150% in Th1?

[rotund forum]

Getting something that isn´t a repeat is becoming a challenge now. 🤓

Did anyone here ever find these in zero? They seem low level but they are elusive so far completely it seems

[austere tusk]

I just opened ILZ for the first time and was met with "free land plot, you cannot sell or use fuel generated in any other games", is this true?

I thought it was just a very small amount that would be generated, but I could transfer it to my OW acc

Do you get airdrop points for playing the free plot? Or only paid plots?

Did season 2 give pojnts to people playing f2p plots?

mmmmm ok thanks, so don't need to purchase one for airdrop. I'm checking some out though anyways, surprised to see some as low as $130

Any advice to get started in ILZ? I've been playing a bunch of OW, some Arena, ILZ I know basically nothing except there's roads and stations that create fuel

Is it possible to permanently screw up your land plot if I just start building? Or can I demolish/move things around after?

I guess f2p plot its not a big deal regardless lol, good platform to learn on and make mistakes

I appreciate the responses btw

[ruby merlin]

Do you know if resetting your island keeps your resources intact?

Does anyone know what it's for to have a converter at 150% fuel in Th1?

I notice that I convert 3 Hyperion and earn 3 Hyperion with 100% and with 150%. Is it a visualization error?

Thank you very much, you are very helpful.

[grand silo]

have you many t5s?

[foggy sage]

Clear ur trees daily ots a chore if u dont

[tranquil sparrow]

What, season 3 is paused

[rotund forum]

No, not really. Considering all there are I seem to only get the same ones over just like most people who have a L5 scanner. It starts to get a bit odd

Wow, a Tier 6

[lethal elbow]

Hi, how to transfer a land from metamask to passport and can play with it? I was thinking that the link is direct but it doesn't show in the game

[grand silo]

ramphy?

[lethal elbow]

Ah, I found it🤓

[rotund forum]

Yeah Ramphy seems to be high drop rate. I think I have 4 now. Stage 2 and 3 are a lot less common though, I still have to find my first t5s3 so far of any illuvial.

But my point was there are some low tiers that seem very low droprate as well… to the point I am starting to think they are just not included so far in zero

[grand silo]

bit weird

be nice if the team would confirm

[rotund forum]

I think the entire blueprint thing is not finished, that much we know, that is why I suspect they just threw in a couple and left out the rest. We know there are 4 drone blueprints but only 2 are available. So it is not far fetched to assume a lot more is missing.

[grand silo]

makes sense

not a major

[radiant sky]

T0 can't be found.

[radiant sky]

the coins you get from level up are account bound, so if you farm those coins on your f2p plot and you might buy a nft plot lateron. You could save up those coins and buy builders or speed up processes on your paid plot.

[rotund forum]

Ah ok, i thought t0 were just t1-5 but with no real value (not sellable nft). Ok thanks

[quiet heath]

I am ready to collapse the fuel exchange

[ruby merlin]

"Important question: If I reset my island for free, will I start getting coins again to use in the paid version?"

[radiant sky]

no, a reset of your land doesn't reset the level.

[hot haven]

These plants make me throw the game out the window

Whose idea was this.. when you free up space you can’t do anything for days coz they just appearing

[versed warren]

Why 136% did something change?

I thought 129% was maximum passive at lvl6

Actually 126%?

Its the same for t1 tho right 126% at lvl6

[versed warren]

So this aint right

[wicked horizon]

Been a lot of negative energy so wanted to come out and say my S2 rewards actually amounted to a good chunk! Progress! Let’s go ILV!

Also, are they going to expand levels beyond 201 or is it always going to be impossible to buy a third builder without paying for coins?

[thorny crater]

So man stage 3 runs lol

T4 I’m guessing?

[thorny crater]

I wish I buy a t1 and just reset all the time

[solar swallow]

1 biodata away from collecting them all!

They are 3x 15 on T5 so it's not that bad and maybe blueprints will be worth more

When I'll get dualeph I'll be able to research 1x for each t5s3

[thorny crater]

How many banks you got lol

[thorn whale]

Question. If a land has a crypto storm but not Hyperion can you only get crypton from it?

[polar cosmos]

wow

[thorny crater]

I think the sea land is the coolest, was a Pokémon blue kind of guy #squirtalGang, but this one is dope too

[bold delta]

Hi guys, how to start playing ILZ free plot?

[jaunty folio]

How long did it take you to get all that fuel? And what tier is your island?

[timber sapphire]

Download it from app or epic store

[bold delta]

If i start playing ILZ free plot, will it reset once the next season start?

[timber sapphire]

Note that all the fuel you get from playing with the free plot is fake

[timber sapphire]

No it won't reset

[bold delta]

Okay, thanks guys, so helpful

[solar swallow]

3 I think

[thorny crater]

Now I can’t unsee it haha

[untold igloo]

Wtf happend to the trees😂

I make them away if i switch the Plot they Come twice new ones 😂

I can not even clear them before they grow in seconds New 😂

[thorny crater]

Plant queue bug. Make a report.

I put in mine “if plot is loaded plants can’t grow” like as a feature.

Basically, the queue will continue to spawn new plants until it’s gone. It’s quite aggravating.

I made two tickets already. 1 before and 1 after update.

The before it would take a long time to load, then it went to crashes if I switched from one land to this one.

After update, crashes no matter what. But only this t1 land not my others.

[foggy sage]

somebody wake the DAO up and tell them to reduce fuel production to 0 this mans gonna send us to the dark ages

[untold igloo]

Crazy thank you 🙂

[mortal bough]

When moon?

[plucky venture]

Wow. Ended up with ~16 ILV from Season 2!!! Not bad. Makes me upset about the million-point-arena issue from last season. I never got it, but a bunch of copy-pastas did.

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-brooklyn-ninenine-b99-smile-gif-11928987

[bronze pulsar]

gm

[wispy prism]

Wow, what level of land do you have?
Do you purchase speed ups?

Lol. Hopefully we will be able to change the colours of the buildings. I must admit it is a little bit over saturated.

[wispy prism]

I think they could be on the free plot and provide a simplified version of skins.
Only for the basic suit that's provided or maybe the T0 line.

It seems there is an aversion to allowing FTP any kind of incentive.

[mortal mural]

It had a t2 that crashed a lot. But now it is a t3

[bronze pulsar]

gm guys

[quiet heath]

Yep

[quiet heath]

x2 /x3 Months I guess...

[thorn whale]

I just bought a land that someone else had that’s all kinda caddy wampus. Idk if they knew what they were doing but I had to spend the whole day rebuilding it. For a t1 with no additional sites or building I’m assuming you have to use converters to get the other resources you need passively?

[bronze pulsar]

alt altt?

[quiet heath]

Yes they definitely should reduce the production (sorry for the t1/t2)
I am pretty confident I am not the only one storing fuel waiting for a better price

What everyone should understand is that although it will become hell with low fuel production for the land, everything that the land will output (fuel, Blueprints) will increase in value

Currently I see tooooo many t4/t5 blueprint around when it was supposed to be scarce....
I am not even touching the t1,t2,t3 blueprint which will be worth it 1 $ or 2 $

[thorn whale]

I only bought a land to become self sufficient when I am able to play when I'm home from work lol. I can kinda see where I'm going to profit. I'm just building it up.

[bronze pulsar]

yes

[hexed abyss]

Good question. Also a lot of resources going to waste, that was going to leveling up before L201. And no more free credits when level up.

[serene iris]

We have a whole month of no airdrop... fuel prices are going to be going down for that whole period... personally I'm selling ever bit of fuel I can before it drops more.

Ill rebuy when the prices are much lower

[quiet heath]

Look, I hear you at the same time you have to look at the bigger picture
Just a general idea (my numbers will be wrong)
Let say there are 20K plots all mixed up by ties( do not remember the %)

What you are planning to do (using your own fuel to play) might be just a 20/30/40% of players from those 20K plot

From the others, If even just taking in consideration only the t1/t2 that just want to sell fuel and not playing it OW
Imagine only 5k of fuel per day created by those small plot sold on the market (x19 for the DAO) it is an enormous amount...
This will obviously change once we will have more people playing the game ( I am expecting in the next 6 months)

What I am trying to say is currently we are producing way too much fuel for our play base

[quiet heath]

I see your point,
But if the DAO does another cut fuel might rise... (unlikely though = low numbers of players)

[serene iris]

Fuel prices were at their lowest about 3 days before the end of season 3. You could buy 100 Fuel and get 700 bonus. We havnt even got back to those lows yet.

The dao dropping production is a possibility they have the power to do it. I can't see it happening just yet tho

[thorn whale]

When the demand increases the supply will run out quickly, but you need that hype and huge influx to bring players in to the game.

I mean again, I don't know much yet because I haven't even harvested my first two crypton. I believe you, promise. I'm just building up.

And jus started my first harvest for crypton lfg

[bronze pulsar]

gn

[plain cargo]

When season 3?

[tawny patio]

Hello does land tier affects the effeciency/success in finding blueprints and biodata?

[serene iris]

Nope, but higher tier land can afford to run more/higher tier scanners etc

[serene iris]

Saying that they have less space to fit extras in lol

[tawny patio]

Ahh I see thank you.

[tulip crane]

gg

[foggy sage]

0 fuel and everything will be worth billions lets do it

[tulip crane]

yo

[thorn whale]

I inherited the land I bought with 8 lvl 2 power generators. Should I sell off my gens and upgrade instead? Everything is pretty bunched together

[restive osprey]

Can the free version complete quests..?

[ocean haven]

what makes tier5 bp better then tier1? seem like they are all just color pattens

i think they should make lands not produce fuel until a new set of illuvials come out

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-stirring-staring-wtf-wut-gif-25440654

[radiant sky]

Zero f2p is mainly for getting to know how Zero works before you have to pay for a Land nft. In future there might be more Fun, social activities and competitive pvp/pve features implemented.

For now:

• you can't sell any assets generated on your f2p plot yet
• you can't use any assets in other Games than Zero itself yet

However, you can:

• play for Fun
• play for Airdrop missions
• play for possible future features.

Also the tokens you generate with Level ups are Account bound. If you one day decide to buy a Land you can use those tokens to Speed that Land up or buy builders there.

[radiant sky]

one would say it could be wise to build as many power stations to fulfill your desire of efficiency.

[ocean haven]

all this fuel being produced is inflating the sytem for future events, to not flood the system with fuel and bring down the price of everything i think we need some kinda control
could be land only produce fuel when there is a need for it in the system or just do another 50% cut

[wispy prism]

um sorry what? So you have a plot that has made stacks of fuel and now you want t1s and t2s to be nerfd so you can sell your fuel without competition? I feel like this is incredibly selfish and doesn't actually address the issue as to why you have so much stored.

[lost walrus]

Such a selfish stand lol

[radiant sky]

cutting production is not a solution.
only solutioin is to increase demand.
i hope council understood that from the last time fuel prod. got cut.

[thorn whale]

Does increasing the power increase the efficiency of output?

[radiant sky]

no, but every powerstation does.... the more powerstation closeby the higher the efficiency.

[thorn whale]

I’m confused I apologize I’m not understanding. Is it that % number that I see and what does the efficiency do?

[radiant sky]

toggle on the efficiency filter and move a powerstation close to a converter/extractor and back again, you will see how the efficiency increases the closer it gets to the converter/extractor.
That efficiency bonus from a powerstation stacks, so you can gather multiple powerstations arround a converter/extractor to increase it's efficiency to a max of 150%

Efficiency increases the output of a converter/extractor or the successrate of a scanner/material lab.
(Scanners are special, they get efficiency if no other buildings are close to them and have a max efficiency of 100%)

[thorn whale]

Gotcha

What do paths do

[radiant sky]

paths decrease the activity time for all buildings connected to those paths. (building time included)
The more buildings are connected with the same paths, the higher the path bonus gets.

[graceful siren]

Can anyone help with if I should have received/be able to view my legacy rewards for buying and holding land from the initial auction? Do I need to claim those somewhere? Can’t see it anywhere on illuvidex or in my wallet

[thorn whale]

So like how long it takes for it to mine or upgrade?

[radiant sky]

yes.
mine, upgrade, scan, research, convert

[thorn whale]

So I should be building paths between everything so everything’s connected got it

[radiant sky]

ideally

[sudden zinc]

GM GM! A Short one.. my playing Rewards from pre season 1 I did on my initially connected wallet. After move to passport there is now a different wallet address visible in my account. Could this be the reason, that I did not get any Rewards shown so far? I played nearly every day, but shows zero! Thanks 🙏

[rotund forum]

Time for my bragging rights 😝 Blotto is new, and the blueprints

[rotund forum]

Storing fuel actually makes little sense. Short term not going to change, long term you run out of storage, and should the game go better eventually they´ll probably ramp up production values again so what now takes a long time to produce you´ll fill it up a lot faster. Don´t reckon they will do a 400% to restore old values but 200% sure... and then a landsale. Would be the logic thing instead of restoring 400% (which they claim now was never the long term idea, just for initial few weeks).

[rotund forum]

they are aesthetic in nature only, but people like to be original and T5 will be a lot rarer than T1, hence the difference in price.

the plant undergrowth is horrible btw... I have removed 30 plants to build a new data center, but for now they keep coming back. 30!! Is there no max amount for plants? There was at one point

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/rachel-happy-jealous-friends-jennifer-aniston-gif-8350582

[radiant sky]

did you create the passport account with the same e-mail adress as your legacy account was which you played the pre season 1?

[cerulean steppe]

I want that.

[foggy sage]

Got all his dumb facts now i can get his blue prints

[hearty cradle]

auto generated?

[quiet ocean]

Hi its worth to buy t2 land?players buy the fuels?

No answer

[olive abyss]

Anyone else having issues selling fuel on marketplace? How long does it usually take to sell?

I've had my order up for over a day and it's still there

Do you have to create a bundle? And if so how do I do that if I can only hold 50 if each fuel at a time? Can I deposit them somewhere as I collect them?

[serene iris]

Sales are definitely slowing down, not a lot of buyers atm

[ruby merlin]

If blueprints are permanent, this will make people use and resell them, flooding the market with them at a low price. Who came up with the idea of making them permanent instead of single-use?

[subtle frost]

hey guys.. I forgot which filter I should use to find the price I should sell resources at?

I saw this

but not sure if that is correct?

0.00000043 ETH

Is it Sale Order Updated?

so many different values

[vivid cipher]

“Sell order distributed”

That will show the price at which fuel is selling

[subtle frost]

that is too high isn't it?

That is the total

okay

so that means
they sold @ 0.0000004 ETH per Crypton

[vivid cipher]

Yeah. In mobile mine shows the price per as well.

[subtle frost]

they should just show you what is the latest floor price being sold at by sellers. They have average but why not floor?

so at least I can just copy and paste

the zeros are making me dizzy

I feel I need to count the zeros

yeah I'll just live with it.. it is part of the game

it will slow you down from selling

so the inflation can be slower I get it

I see what they are doing

LMAO 😄

I guess the other way to look at it is. I am lazy

it is a puzzle game

if you get things handed to you, you won't learn anything

and when things gets too easy, you need to make it even harder so we can all grow stronger

and mentally tougher

or else we will all be a society of weaklings

I really don't mind the inflation, I mean I hope they fix it. just don't make it so hard to post my resources for sale.

[olive abyss]

If I deposit my fuel to the game can I still sell them on the dex?

My fuel is maxed out and I'm trying to sell so I can continue to collect more

[subtle frost]

That is how you calculate the fuel you will get

LMAO

I just randomly pulled a complicated equation

[olive abyss]

Is there a bank i can deposit fuel into

Can someone answer please

If I'm maxed out in fuel on my plot and it won't sell where can I move it to keep earning?

If I move it to over world will I still be able to sell it later?

So what you're telling me is that if there is no demand to sell fuel I can't even stack it to sell later

[cinder fractal]

You can upgrade storage buildings on your plot

[subtle frost]

sweet

now make that a one buttone

[olive abyss]

So just using the sell feature on the exchange and the automatic populated amount per fuel isn't even right?

[subtle frost]

just put it in the Market Pricing

thanks

skip steps 1 to 4

go straight to fuel exchange sell and look at Market Pircing

copy and paste

even better is click on the floor price

and it fills the selling price box

thanks

and thanks again

[digital cloud]

You can always build more storage

[mortal bough]

So basically selling at the generated price when creating a sell order is a dream.

[olive abyss]

Love how there's no floor price listed on the dex

That way I can't easily do it on my phone so it will keep the price higher lol sneaky

[mortal bough]

The .0000039 price would fill the order pretty quickly I suppose

[olive abyss]

So according to my calculations it will be in my next life I'll get my ROI

[knotty sable]

Seems like you would make more money off just using your fuel in overworld and then selling the resources you collected from that run. 🤔

[olive abyss]

Makes sense, because you actually have to play and work for those lol

[topaz drum]

hi

[mortal bough]

So I am counting 6 zeros on the buy order than 39. When selling it has 5 zeros... A little confused.

[subtle frost]

Super Hamster.. you like hamsters?

WTF

so you buy 100 you get 650

that is nutty

[subtle frost]

so if I go to the bank

I ask for 100 dollars they give me $650

that is sweet

[hazy tartan]

Let’s call it a quarter a day at max if that, still puts you at 91 dollars at end of year for a t1 and a not god awful ROI when maxed which takes a brutal amount of time but realistically ROI isn’t insane

[subtle frost]

LMAO

late fees

they give you a free hamster

[mortal bough]

Well I guess we will see how long it takes this order to get filled

[subtle frost]

dude

it won't

[mortal bough]

That is the prepopulated amount

so I need to change it to .0000039 if I want the order to get filled quickly or .00000039

which one

[subtle frost]

or 40

[mortal bough]

5 zeros

[subtle frost]

just do 0

0.000000000000000000000

[mortal bough]

bruh

[subtle frost]

00000040

should be good just takes a little of time

unless you need it right away

then do 39

eventually it will get sold

I guess everyone is undercutting each other

then yeah..

inflation is crazy

it is confusing yeah I know

[mortal bough]

I don't, just testing it out trying to get familiar, I do not want to deceive my self by going to look at the prepopulated order and say to myself this is how much I could be selling for.

[subtle frost]

I am frustrated each time I use it

[subtle frost]

yup

correct

the zeros is confusing

[spring jetty]

what's the team's plan to save land and fuel price crashing

[subtle frost]

eventually we will get to 100 zeros

yeah I am not even thinking about that complex inflation issue

I am just thinking how I can contribute to the inflation by making it easier for me to post my resources for sale

[mortal bough]

So it does not allow me to sell at .00000040

[subtle frost]

why not

[mortal bough]

I get the yellow messagfe

[subtle frost]

hmm.. it should allow you.. I just did it an hour ago

[spring jetty]

that sound almost as dumb as trump's concept of plans

[radiant sky]

let's not even start to get political in here 🙂

[subtle frost]

make love not war

LOL

[mortal bough]

Alright, had to cancel the sell order and make a new one. That yellow message was what was throwing me off

[subtle frost]

battle it out in illuvium

[mortal bough]

LFG

[subtle frost]

LFG make your 1 dollar

14 cents

or whatever it is

LOL

[mortal bough]

Yeah, that was depressing to see

.14 for 150 hyperion

[subtle frost]

well think about it this way

normally you buy a game for $1,000

[mortal bough]

If it was tethered some how to the money I spent on the coins in IZ it would be worth more

[subtle frost]

and you don't get paid

but at least now you buy the game for $1,000 you get .14 a day

you are winning

also you get a lot of digital assets that no one wants as well but you can own even if the company goes out of business

you winning

[mortal bough]

x4 T2 lands, for I am killing it .60 cents a day lmao

[subtle frost]

Nice man

you winning more then me.. I got in at the beginning

so.. you winning ..

[mortal bough]

I changed my name yesterday, previously "joesjunction" PSA

[subtle frost]

okay no worries

that is a lot of work 4 x T2 land

I am just playing around with my land T3 and T2

seems like T4 land is probably best for reosurce production

[mortal bough]

@radiant sky eyes

lol

[subtle frost]

Slowly accumulating

still missing

[mortal bough]

Lol, My other name is still in my bio...

Also updated my picture to my only Illuvitar. Going to buy some disks soon

I would have thought the sell order would have immediately made my balance reflect the difference. Only when it sells I am guessing?

[tulip crane]

yo

[mortal bough]

Good point

[mortal bough]

I want a T3 or MC next. Watching two lands daily for my oppurtunity to buy

[thorny crater]

Two more bps. It’s been about a week and a half but still hunting lol

Just got ebbs stage two bito data too

T3 is a banger

Don’t even have to think about fuel

[olive abyss]

I got a tier 2 with 2 of each fuel on the plot

[thorny crater]

And been research 24/7 for over 2 months

Try to get all three fuel types tho. That’s is so worth ir

Like even if you don’t have all 3 elements, it sucks in the beginning, but the end game is fuel. So for me it’s worth that

[mortal bough]

T2 is 3 fuel sources

[olive abyss]

That's what I meant t2 with 1 of each fuel and element extraction points

[thorny crater]

My t3 BP focused plot. Will build another data bank if I can’t move BPs tho

All I can do now is collect, I have auto scanning on, and labs I manually select research

[olive abyss]

I've got 3 carbon, 2 silicon, 1 hydrogen, 1 crypton , 1 Hyperion, 1 solon

[thorny crater]

Waiting for the 1st t5 biodata

[thorny crater]

Gold plot

Those are just so nice and with less conversion lvls so much faster

[olive abyss]

Thought my first plot should have 1 of everything, seemed to me like that was ideal anything more is just extra

But less would be slow and involve a bunch of converters

I spent about $500

[mortal mural]

Can you show efficiency on scanners?

[thorny crater]

Ah yeah on sec

[mortal mural]

I’ve been hesitant to adding scanner lower than 100% but it seems it works pretty well for you

[thorny crater]

The bottom left scanner is lvl 2 and going clock wise it’s 2-5

Very expensive to maintain

[mortal mural]

This might be a good spot for another scanner

[thorny crater]

Don’t need

I have 4 scanners and 5 labs
My labs are lvls 1-5

I can’t even research all the bio data I have now

[mortal mural]

Oh wow, seems there is very little difference between yours and mine I’ve been running 100% and I think we ve been getting bio data somewhat at the same pace

[thorny crater]

And lab limit is 5

[mortal mural]

I started bio data farming later though I got 48

[thorny crater]

I only got 45 your doing better than me lol

[mortal mural]

Definitely gonna add another scanner then. I’ve been running 3

[thorny crater]

I was deleting bio data in the beginning which was a mistake

[mortal mural]

And you always seem to get a little more often than me

[thorny crater]

Cause I don’t get stage 2/3 if I didn’t have stage 1s first

[mortal mural]

True, I just been researching favorites ones lol

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/goodluck-sprinkles-lucky-luck-best-of-luck-gif-4474323736054839383

[mortal mural]

I got some obsession with gyro

[thorny crater]

Atlas for me

[mortal mural]

I don’t why o research gyro so much

[thorny crater]

Been trying to get his stage 2/3 BP for over two months now

Depends on tier

[mortal mural]

What lvl are your scanners?

I got 5-4 and 3

Gonna add another lvl 5 scanner I think

[thorny crater]

2 to 5 going clock wise

Lvl 5 cans find t1-5 biodata

Is it better to do lvl 5 scanners idk.
But labs…there is a BIG reason I do lvls 1-5

If your research a t1 in a lvl 5 lab it cost the lvl 5 price with no bonuses for it

[foggy sage]

nah cause now it has nothing left to give me but them sweet sweet blue prints im gonna be able to sell for millions

already told my boss to Phuck Off and quit im retired now

Biden and harris both hit me asking me for the first blue print i get

[ruby merlin]

Should megacities be built with all water terrain, all land terrain, and all wind terrain? Or does the terrain element not matter?

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/ilv-nfa-taalik-tiktaalik-illuvium-gif-23319446

[foggy sage]

Very much So Finicial Advice

[vivid cipher]

@lilac dagger where are you?

[foggy sage]

https://tenor.com/view/whenever-you-need-advice-ill-be-here-for-you-superholly-im-here-for-you-you-can-come-to-me-gif-20296137

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/disney-robin-hood-prince-john-hiss-never-around-gif-12699142

[foggy sage]

lol enough horsing around, now lets get back to reducing fuel supply already

😉

[olive abyss]

So I listed at average price and still no sale wtf

[foggy sage]

oh dude lol, the average price is way to high, lol u need to go way lower

what fuel were u selling?

go to ledger then click the drop down select the fuel you want and then you should see what the most recent transaction was listed for and then from there u can under cut that

[olive abyss]

So is fuel price tanked?

What was the highest price fuel has been?

[foggy sage]

its been tanked brother but we are breaking grounds on new lows every day

[foggy sage]

dont worry about how high fuel as been cause it will never ever get back there.

these are the prices u need to be listing at or listing below in order to sell stuff

itz called zero for a reason, and people are figuring it out now lol

XD

[thorny crater]

yeah i bought last week and got so much extra from bonus i dont need to buy for a while

[sharp jolt]

Are we ever going to get different colors for our buildings?

It’s all eye-searing purple

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/youll-love-you-youll-see-neighbours-youre-gonna-like-it-youre-gonna-love-it-wait-for-it-youre-gonna-love-it-gif-20976780

[tulip crane]

yo

[lyric lodge]

what are people using T1 for now, fuel or BP ?

[ruby merlin]

"Does anyone know which version of Android is compatible with Zero? Thanks"

[sudden zinc]

Yep, I did...🤗

[jaunty folio]

and what tier is your island tier 2?!

[bold delta]

What to do after run out of gold? Just started playing free plot

[radiant sky]

yea then it should be visible on your passport.
you did create a ticket, if i remember right.. yes?

[radiant sky]

you just get the coins casually when leveling up.

[sharp jolt]

Doesn’t mean the the menus or figuring out basic prices should be a puzzle

[rose maple]

The "Storage Full" pop-up is the new "You have levelled up" pop-up that used to plague us.

Please remove this annoying pop-up, especially with the level cap.

[thorny crater]

you dont get it after 201

[tulip crane]

yo

[rose maple]

Yeah you do lol.

[thorny crater]

I dont

[vivid cipher]

I thought it was 12 and up

[vague summit]

I'm on 12 on a pixel 3 and it works just fine.

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-22468703

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/jp-how-can-he-see-me-how-can-he-see-me-see-me-gif-1434901417435250739

[twilit bough]

Now that grant is out we may slowly escape the neon purple

[foggy sage]

dude tried so hard to give the game fortnite colors

[rose maple]

I will try reconnecting my wallet, it's really annoying.

[midnight flax]

how many bp can each biodata give us?

[tall crypt]

infinite

Next question: Any one use blueprints?

[amber rune]

hi - Ive started Selling my Fuel - but no-one seems to be buying - is some fuel is more demand than others? do i sell at market price? any insights?

[lyric lodge]

what are people using T1 for now, fuel or BP ?

[tranquil sparrow]

For Airdrop
BP prolly better

[wispy prism]

I was thinking about this, what if there were limits on the amount of fuel converters?

The amount could be capped by tier. like 3 for T1 and upscale from there.

[orchid maple]

hi guys, i am new in playing Zero, i would like to ask if this game is only for those who have land?

[rotund forum]

yuhuuu my first biodata T5s3! 🥳 🥳

[tranquil sparrow]

U can play f2p for Airdrop

[lyric lodge]

Yes but what is t1 better for fuel or BP?

Ah thank

[amber rune]

Thanks for that...feels like we need some momentum!

[timber sentinel]

guys my materials lab ain't progressing at all, it has enough power, you know what causes this?

[timber sapphire]

Sometimes it's still the power but UI is just bugged. Try adding or upgrading power

[timber sentinel]

I did QQ

[sudden zinc]

yep, I created several weeks ago, but no answer so far!....😢

[cinder grove]

Yeah instead they should just sell for a regular price without bonus and give the additional revenue to the fuel sellers. The system as it is is so flawed, don’t get they don’t see this

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-more-power-power-power-up-spongebob-squarepants-gif-22777710

[radiant sky]

you see points in your history?

[thorny crater]

The talk I’ve heard is making it like you said.

Buy at whatever market price is, no bonus.
Then the dao takes the 95% fee/tax and the land owner gets 5%
-simple

Currently it’s 19:1 where when we sell 1 the dao creates 19. And the bonus is the price difference between market and what land owner sells for.
-complicated and I don’t see and good argument for it yet.

[sharp elk]

Wait till people start complaining about the 95% ‘tax’.

[thorny crater]

Has there been anymore talk on how we will create the Bp skins?

I know last I heard it was back and forth of having to burn illuvials or not.

[thorny crater]

Corporate fees are taxes aka money taken from you wallet for X service.. It’s just I use the T word because it’s a trigger word for some lol.

But it’s always been here

See

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

So if people complain they didn’t DYOR lol and I’m not sad at all for them.

[sharp elk]

Yep.

But there will be more complaints than now.

People hate taxes.

A change of the system wouldn’t achieve any increase in customer satisfaction, probably the opposite.

[radiant sky]

No news

[thorny crater]

Ok not a tax then it’s a fee lol

[thorny crater]

Thank you

There will always be the ❄️ no matter what happens

[sharp elk]

You know people would call it a tax, and the calls of outrage about the DAU taking 95% of their ‘hard earned’ fuel sales would start less than 24 hours later. 😏

[thorny crater]

“Hard earned” lolz

We all know they just spent money and have to click button but they acting like they just dug a 20 foot ditch for a new sewer like or something

[sharp elk]

Yep

[thorny crater]

To them. I say let them and offer stupid low prices for their land.

[sharp elk]

Nevertheless… we come back to your original question. You don’t see an argument to keep the existing system.

The argument is: customer satisfaction.

Or less dissatisfaction, if you prefer.

[native gyro]

Is there a list of biodata for this season? A list of blueprints we can collect? Rarity, etc if any or is it all the same.

[thorny crater]

this will start in Arena, then OW, then ZERO I believe or I hope it happens in that order

[viscid bolt]

What do the 3 pentagons on the biodata indicate?

[thorny crater]

stage lvl

[empty dock]

ay - its been a minute but i've still been playing my t1 land. a few noob questions i've put off asking but just kept grinding....

1. Missions to extract fuel/resources i have no way to extract, does converting or passive accumulation count toward these missions?
2. Scanners, Does leveling them up make them more effective? I assume so?
3. Why doesnt leveling up power stations seem to increase efficiency of nearby buildings? a level 1 and a level 7 power station placed next to something shouldnt have the exact same effect. Are there any plans to change this?

[viscid bolt]

Thank you! How are tiers of biodata achieved related to the level of scanner and tier of land?

[vague summit]

Anyone know of a way I can keep my element sites on repeat mode? They keep reverting to non repeating.

[viscid bolt]

How are you logging into your land - through phone/computer?

[vague summit]

A bit of both... Today just on my phone a few times, it's weird only three of my six sites keep turning repeat off.

[viscid bolt]

I noticed the repeat mode stopping when I accessed the land on my phone. I haven't noticed this on the computer interface.

[vague summit]

Ah well... Maybe next patch it will be fixed. 🙂

[thorny crater]

Scanner lvl = tier lvl or below that it can find

[thorn whale]

I’ve noticed similar that power stations increased in level do no create more efficiency. I’m not exactly sure why if you increase the power it should increase efficiency.

[foggy sage]

my last material lab will be level 5 this friday and then after that im i just do my clicks in the morning and im done i beat Zero

[viscid bolt]

How many material labs do you have?

[foggy sage]

5 per land 2 t4 lands

10 total same with scanners 10 total all level 5 just waiting on this last material lab thing takes likes 6 days lol

[tranquil sparrow]

1. Use f2p plot

[bleak maple]

Are you saying the f2p plot is better?

[bleak maple]

Are we able to play an f2p plot and also a plot we buy on the same account?

[radiant sky]

Yes, you should See the plot in your plot list

[bleak maple]

Awesome! I may look into buying my own plot.

I'm guessing the only benefit to your own plot is that you can sell the fuel? Is there anything else?

[solar swallow]

The last missing BioData found!

[bleak maple]

It goes all the way up to T3 right?

I found some BPs and Skins on my f2p. Can I do anything with those?

[empty dock]

ah, i see. okay. more grinding LOL

[polar cosmos]

source https://x.com/LootRushGames/status/1843001309588545864

[bleak maple]

Thank you! Good to know

[pearl marten]

Congrats! I still have to find the elusive Ophisto

[shut wave]

I have about 4 top tier scanners but lately have only been finding stage 1 illuvials.is this common experience for everyone?

[lyric hamlet]

Dang, 5 days to wait for my lol 9 HQ

Lvl*

[orchid ibex]

I havent seen my lands or played since the switch over a few months ago to passport

I have a bit of time today and was hoping to recover them

[rotund forum]

You have all?? 😱🤪

[radiant sky]

as far as i understood it's the nubmer of fuel selling lands

not active lands

yea

maybe whales don't really care about the few bucks or don't lend them out because no official lending platform of illuvium... idk

[radiant sky]

are you selling fuel with your t1 and T2 ?

[thorny crater]

I’m STILL building my t1s lol

My t2 has a few more converters to max too

Then 2 more fuel bank levels too

[radiant sky]

There are for sure Lot of those, yea

[grand silo]

@pearl marten nice score getting Titanor

[tawny patio]

Does upgrading singularity scanner only increases the data bank upgrade?

[serene iris]

What's the max number of converters you can build on a plot? I think I heard someone here mention it

[pearl marten]

Thank you!

[rotund forum]

it lets you scan higher level illuvials

Catch of the day. Can´t believe there are already who have all biodata. I am still missing quite a lot I think. Don´t know without the T0 how many there actually are.

[pearl marten]

about 105-110

without t0

[rotund forum]

Just checked, there are actually 130 without T0.

On my best performing plot I am just over the middle! 68, with 62 missing. Damn. How can there be people who have all already 🤪

[pearl marten]

i have 97 .. started early (is my secret :D)

[pearl marten]

on a T3?

[rotund forum]

Yeah I think that indeed is the main reason I lag behind, I started with only 3 scanners pretty early on, but only after the nerf did I reorganize the plots to include a garden with podarium (for once it goes active) and 5 scanners. So having 2 extra scanners in the "golden age" was probably a very good idea if you are going for blueprints.

[rotund forum]

it´s a T4

But look, if you had started early like you and those that found all you can now stop scanning altogether saving you 270 fuel each day

until the next season

[pearl marten]

yeah i knew from the start that this would be my 'science' plot

[pearl marten]

i;m still scanning with 3 .. searching fr=or the elusive Ophisto

[rotund forum]

I went full fuel and a little science for fun when I realized now research costs fuel, and when fuel selling was complicated, for the time being might as well go full science and fuel secondary

[rotund forum]

I think I have the more attainable ones mostly and the elusive ones are going to cost a lot of time 🙈

[pearl marten]

This is the bottom half so yeah basically the hard work is at the end

[rotund forum]

nice!

on other plots I have a lot more Lynx´s (t2) but here I am lacking 81% 😱

[silk comet]

what happend? i completed 15 daily missions yesterday on ilv zero, and i dont see any points and any completed missions?

[rotund forum]

I just checked what exactly I am missing and noticed the T2 numbers don´t make any sense at all compared to the rest.

[amber aurora]

How can I transfer fuel from my plot to my passport, so I can use it in OW?

[tranquil sparrow]

Press the elements on top right

[amber aurora]

Do I need a certain building? Clicking it just shows me a pop of all resources

[tranquil sparrow]

You haven't update the game maybe 🤔

[amber aurora]

Checking that. Thank you much

[amber aurora]

That did it. Thank you!

[worldly flume]

Any idea why my game doesnt load on mobile?

[worldly flume]

Stuck like this

Last night had no issue

[radiant sky]

have you tried rebooting your device?

[worldly flume]

Yes, and still not working.
I use a vpn on mobile, but the network is from the same country i am.
Also last night worked with vpn.

[radiant sky]

have you tried logging in without vpn and if it work, activating vpn again and restart the app?

[worldly flume]

Yes, it worked without the vpn
But last night it worked with it on.
And also the ip is from the same country 😕
So i have to disable my vpn everytime i play zero?

No, i am only on mobile

[radiant sky]

IDK to be honest.
But vpn causes problems all over the games in Illuvium.

[chilly temple]

how can I upgread my extractor which is in repeat mode? I don't have menu to upgread for them in this mode :/

Great, thx! ❤️ one more - one of daily quest is to remove plants (5). I have only 1 on map and I remove it. How can i remove rest 4 which i don't have ? ;p

[chilly temple]

Thx, I just started today with T0 land 🙂 and wanna see how the game looks like 🙂

[digital cloud]

Are you in Kratos guild?

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-stirring-staring-wtf-wut-gif-25440654

[copper falcon]

Hey guys, can we find the same blueprint on a land plot? I mean i have found, so we can, is it a bug or is it designed this way?🤔

Well we can scan a biodata only once per landplot, and it seems to me i read before (here or elsewhere on the server, or may be a utuber vid idk) that same is for blueprints.

I'd prefer to find different blueprints every time, better variety of stuff i can produce and sell, why the f i need a second same blueprint?😅

i would never sell it to anyone, cus why make more competition? so its useless, even detrimental, took time and fuels

[midnight flax]

what is better tactic forT2 land:
1.) spam fuel converters
2.) have as many as possible at 150% efficiency

[copper falcon]

yeah, i am afraid you are right and blueprints are designed this way, so i remembered wrong

but what a disappointment, and also rare one, to get the same blueprint for a biodata that you have just started to getting blueprints, it only has another 2, and already a duplicate!

[digital cloud]

Omg, the hamsters are conversing! 🐹🐹🐹

[copper falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-hamster-meme-hampter-hamster-turning-around-hamster-looking-at-u-gif-6840044531683324741

[digital cloud]

😂

[midnight flax]

damn, you have maxed it already... i'm at 10 converters at 150% but i also left some space for 3 scanners...

btw, how much fuel a day with setup like yours?

[copper falcon]

ill be happy only when i have a monopoly on a blueprint😈 🤑

preferably several🐳

https://tenor.com/view/trump-well-see-gif-26266172

[crimson crater]

Can someone tell me what i should be looking for while buying a land? Specifically speaking a T2 land.

[copper falcon]

nah, better spend the moni running in the Overworld, revdis is not huge recently

[crimson crater]

Super detailed. Helps lot.

[crimson crater]

That already be doing 🥹 thought buying a land can be a 💎 in distant future.

[copper falcon]

hehe, ok, this was a joke ofc if you want to scan for blueprints, also its good to have a corner or 2 free of fuel and resources sites, cus scanners dont like buildings around them, loose efficiency.

[crimson crater]

Not much information in marketplace isn’t it? All i see is a diagram of dots and list of elements it bear. I mean if i want to know the progress of the nexus or others.

[copper falcon]

yeah, its another game - to find info about the game

[radiant sky]

yea you don't see that.
some posting pics of the progress of their land they are selling in #🛒〕land-dex

[crimson crater]

Nah. Not just money. I love GAME. Lil bit money flowing is motivation just. Well my pocket says T2 is enough.

Someone said we shouldn’t be able to view stats of illuvi while capturing but only after captured. You reminded me of him.

Hm you paid for it?

How much fuel you make out of it? Approx figure

Im tryin to do the math. Understand if you don’t wanna mention as well.

[copper falcon]

there is a button to reset the land😉

[crimson crater]

Once i was deep into clash of clans. Kinda looks like that the plots. I don’t mind spending time building blocks. I totally dig it.

[copper falcon]

well you were saying it screwed you that it was built out... there is a way to unscrew

[crimson crater]

Allow me to be blunt. 213 to 266 fuel you collect per day ? Crypton+hyperion+solon

Im only a OW player. With elements in land, i got mixed up. If i can make around 200 fuel per day, im glad to buy one.

[thorny crater]

I had bought a t2 cause it was the lowest price with all 3 fuel types….abosultly nothing was built on it lol. Just someone emptying their wallets

It’s nice cause I get all the levels for coins…sucks cause I don’t want to build it again haha

Just taking it slow. Here is where I am, no hydro hurts

But end game won’t matter

[crimson crater]

Looks like electric circuit line

[thorny crater]

Or a uterus 😂

Is what I was told and I can’t unsee it now

[crimson crater]

No offense 😂

[thorny crater]

You’re welcome

[crimson crater]

Now I can’t unsee it.

[thorny crater]

Here is a max t2, only a few converters and the fuel banks left.

This one I left open space for future updates. The new one I’m build will mimic hamster’s plots hard

Max concerts possible based on his/her maths

[open stratus]

On the fence whether to get a t2

The price is nice, but the generation is quite.. humble let's say

[thorny crater]

I can show you my BP t2 focus. I regret making it a BP plot

T3 is no trouble for bps, lower than that I wouldn’t recommend

[crimson crater]

What does it mean by at least one or two open corner. Can anyone show me with a plot picture.

[thorny crater]

The one with the most fuel is the T3 lol

These are both BP focused

[copper falcon]

BP focused??🤔 why you don't care about scanners efficiency?

[thorny crater]

The smaller list are my t2 BPs

[thorny crater]

Scanners = bio data
Bio data is used in labs for researching BPs

They all go together

[crimson crater]

Mostly it will be for my OW run. Thought if i can afford a petrol pump to run my gear, why not

[thorny crater]

Very fuel expensive

I go for only drone bps too which is all the gold one Lol

[copper falcon]

do you mean Labs are bottleneck, not low efficiency scanners?🤔

[thorny crater]

Here are my efficiency rates

[thorny crater]

I just keep my scanners around 80%+ and the labs 150%

[crimson crater]

Im getting it. Think i will buy one soon. Im jealous, guys here flexing lands 🤣

[thorny crater]

My scanners starting bottom left is lvl 2, then 3,4,5
Labs are between lvls 1-5

Did this because a t1 being research in a lvl 5 lab cost a lvl 5 lab price but that same t1 being research in a lvl 1 lab is the lvl 1 lab price

[copper falcon]

yeah, labs 150 easy, but 80 scanners... well, i never tried to calculate everything precisely, may be 80 for scanners is ok...

[thorny crater]

This is my old break down. I’m sure fuel prices are lower now

Breakdown of my t3 only

[crimson crater]

What this topic bout scanners and BP ? My budget is $800. Do i need to concern about these things?

[thorny crater]

If you’re doing a fuel only plot nope

[copper falcon]

its highly speculative. if you believe blueprints will be a huge thing, you should bother...

[thorny crater]

I’m straight up gambling on BPs

I’m hoping the Illuvium team deliver the final product so we’ll that ppl cosplay as illuvial chars and the drone skins sell at counter strike 2 skin prices lol

Only in my dreams for now

[copper falcon]

thinking the same

[crimson crater]

Is BP like skin?

[copper falcon]

i am now not sure i am correct with this strategy, cus you can see ppl dont bother much with scanners efficiency and prefer to max the fuel production...

[copper falcon]

its a skin printer

[thorny crater]

Exactly. Think fornite. But the process has changed dramatically since 2021.

As in how they will be made, amount of BPs, and a good bit is still unknown

It’s a major risk tbh.
So 2/7 plots are BP, I wish I made it 1/7
the rest are fuel focused

If I started over I’d only make my t3 a BP.

You have to strategized A LOT with a t2…and a t1 I ain’t even trying

[copper falcon]

yeah, may be...

[thorny crater]

Gyms are coming too

[crimson crater]

Do i understand correct that open corners increase scanners efficiency that scan for BP? any T2 land can scan for BP?

[thorny crater]

Scanner get bito data

[copper falcon]

yes

[thorny crater]

Biodata is then used in a lab to research a BP with a 5% success rate

[crimson crater]

That will help alot for OW and arena players too

[thorny crater]

I play OW. My extra fuel is going to me lol

[copper falcon]

btw do you know what does a Lab efficiency influence? if its success rate is always 5%?

[thorny crater]

So disclosure. Land for me is an investment in the illuvium platform as a whole.

Roi and breaking even is great but not my focus.

[thorny crater]

Always 5% as of today

BUT last two seasons I got 800-900 in the ilv reward with today ilv prices. So I’m up 800-900 percents in “profit”

As in I am a web 2 gamer who has never been paid to play a game…until Illuvium.

So take my input with a grain of salt if you’re looking for ROI

Ah I thought they meant it goes up with level or something.

True

[copper falcon]

i think may be 5% is a base for, say, 100% efficiency... but not sure

its hard to experiment with statistics, need a lot of data😅

yeah but they love to troll players in variuos ways

[open stratus]

Damn 8 years on a t3 ? That fr

I only saw t3 runs a while ago were sub 2$ so I just didn't even bother 🤣

[crimson crater]

Feels reasonable. Although i like to see what im buying.

[thorny crater]

If you sell 100% fuel and that’s the old sale price lol

[crimson crater]

https://tenor.com/view/into-the-unknown-willow-ufgood-willow-into-the-abyss-into-a-mysterious-place-gif-27034191

[thorny crater]

But I come from real estate. The norm is 15-20years on roi

These 50%-50000% gains is only in crypto aka stupid high risk, but stupid high rewards

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/leprechaun-gif-8748962

[open stratus]

My plan was to always use the fuel to fund runs, have fun, and sell off whatever desirable that I get to kind of recoup, or reinvest into more land or token

[thorny crater]

True it’s 0s and 1s lol

And crypto

[thorny crater]

Dat me too

[open stratus]

I bought land high enough tier to allow me to do freely what I want within the game. I'm happy with the decision (if I ever have time to play)

[thorny crater]

If you got a t3 plus those are bangers in fuel production

[open stratus]

I have 2 t3s

[thorny crater]

Aw yeah swimming in the fuel

[open stratus]

Both have 99/100 % scanner and like 16 or 17 converters

Legit only played zero last month and got 10ilv from the season

Got about 25k fuel kicking around when I do eventually play 🤣

[thorny crater]

I’m just starting to build my reserves lol.

Haven’t made a stage 3 amount yet…as in I could do it but would have to stop upgrades. I rather wait

No lie I bought one Mon of every BP I get.

Just in case we have to burn an illuvial to make them ill have at least one I could make.

This is not set in stone yet

If not I’m just completing my collection of

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-catch-em-all-gif-5662253

[tranquil sparrow]

The airdrop will compensate our nugget income

[mortal mural]

damn i was reading old messages. now i cant unsee it.

[thorny crater]

I used mine to buy another land 😅

Land of the uterus 😂😂. She’s a Red Sea beauty

[mortal mural]

i really like halcyon sea. and abyssal basin. (even though i dont have an abysal basin plot.). and taiga boreal i really like too but is too bright at night it hurts my eyes sometimes lol

[tranquil sparrow]

looks like a dark ritual land ☠️

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-oh-well-diddy-shrug-deal-with-it-shrugs-gif-97775874789584377

To soon ?

[mortal mural]

daaaaaamn, even i know we dont making any money i want to buy a t4

[thorny crater]

I wish I had a t4 I’d go straight fuel with it

Anyone auto lab?
I do my scanners, but was curious if you found a BP does the auto lab stop?

[mortal mural]

no autolab. i do the autoscanner.

[quick pivot]

Does anyone know if the playtime of ilv zero did not count towards the pre-season airdrop points? I played a lot of zero, but have no playtime and airdrop points displayed

[radiant sky]

playtime only mattered in preason 1.

[quick pivot]

Yes, I know. But somehow it doesn't show my playtime

[radiant sky]

• try clearing cache and cookies and restart browser.
• make sure you are on the right account, the one with the same e-mail as you used for playing preseason1.
• If it still shows 0 Points and you think you should have earned some, contact #❓❓〕support

[quick pivot]

Alright, thank you! I will try that

[radiant sky]

When opening a ticket, always give as much relevant information as you can, to Speed up the process and Make the job easier for the Support guys 🙂

[quick pivot]

Will do. I think my legacy account (email and pw) is not properly linked to the passport account. But I transfered all my bp's and fuel crates 🙂

[radiant sky]

You just needed to use the Same E-Mail for your passport Account as you used in preseason 1.
If thats not the case, you could try creating a new Account with that mail and See if you can claim.
But i guess it's best to go via #❓❓〕support

[swift gull]

I submitted a ticket, but any ideas why my max level solon dredge would by stuck and the timer not ticking down? It has sufficient power, etc.

[radiant sky]

Build more power even if it shows it has enough power

Power ui can be buggy

[rotund forum]

When you have S3 podarium when it is not even functional you know you hit end game 😝

[twin grove]

Hi all.

Do I have to gather all Facts before finding a Blueprint? What are the functions of a Fact??

[paper sleet]

What’s the difference between drone skin vs armour skin for a lessor aapon

[exotic yacht]

How long does support usually take? Been like 1.5 weeks.

[rotund forum]

So I just checked for first time these airdrop rewards, played strictly zero in September. The reward is higher than the fuel I sold that month 😱 Is that possible???

[chilly temple]

at which hour daily quest reset ? 🙂

[rough stone]

I'm trying to buy a plot through TokenTrove but every time I press Buy Now it either comes up with an error or an IMX popup that never finishes. How do I resolve this?

[thorny crater]

I hope we make pàssive part of the activity colllections.

It’s so nice to collect there because my eyes play tricks on me lol

Adding more converters to this t1…I will try to put max num of each carb and hype lol

[mortal mural]

I think it’s the purple lol I get consfuswd too sometimes

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-purple-clouds-gif-14847680

All the purple lol

Look at my fuel count on this t3 lol

886,886,868 solve the riddle to get the Declaration of Independence

https://tenor.com/view/national-treasure-benjamin-gates-nicolas-cage-declaration-of-independence-steal-gif-4752081

[thorny crater]

I made 800-900+ with both airdrops. Bought another land haha

[mortal mural]

FIRST T5 LFG!!!

[thorny crater]

Auuyyyyyy you beat me 😂

Kudos

[fierce jetty]

Where can you get the airdrop from last season?

[opal thistle]

Go to your profile > Missions > History. Remember that if you withdraw before the vesting period is over you forgo some of the rewards

[pure fable]

who is in charge of Illuvium Zero development?

[sage bough]

I'm not sure there are any dedicated resources on it currently, or at least if there are they aren't communicating.

The pins in this channel used to give semi-regular updates but that's kind of fallen off since Johnny left.

Assuming the resources are focused more on the other games at the moment.

[rotund forum]

nice one! I think I am actually going to hold on to those ilv, same as the revdis for better times. Token is at it lowest I can remember now, surely in the bullrun in the next 6 months it will go quite up being an altcoin.

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-nooice-bling-key-and-peele-gif-4294979

[thorny crater]

I didn’t sell them 😬 just used eth I had in storage lol.

I’m betting on ilv going to 200-1500+

[mortal mural]

i m going to somehow tell my wife im gonna spend some more time on a new land. need to figure that out first before buying more land

[thorny crater]

Yeah 100% on testing and getting used to land before getting a paid one.

[lilac timber]

Im about to get a tier 1 land … i need some assistance

Which land should i get ?

How much time will it take for me to build my city

And also about the income produced?? Anyone

[mortal mural]

you mean characteristics?

[twin sequoia]

I prefer a T1 land with at least one of each element, as you don´t need as many converters. 2/1/0 is good too if the fuel needs the duplicated element. If fuel needs the 1 mine element is ok too, but will probably need an extra element converter. And would avoid a land with 3 of same element or where the fuel has not the corresponding element.

The time to build the city depends on your targets for the land and the time you spend on it daily. If you aim to maximize the fuel output, no less than 4 months with several daily connections (I´m not sure as I bought my first land less than 2 months ago).

[mortal mural]

good advice, i always look that fuel matches element sites for its extraction

[twin sequoia]

If you want to maximize scanning/resarching probably less, but I´m not yet started on it

It is difficult to tell about the income. Don´t expect benefits at the moment with a T1 land. You first need a lot of development first and then it may produce enough fuel to sell something. Probably it is better for sending it to your overworld account.

And use 2 builder. I think the 3rd is useless as there is not enough element & fuel production. In a tier 2 it may be useful once it is at tier 6 or so but not in T1. I bought a T2 and was surprised that it was at level 8 already. Now at 9 and think I should have paid for the third builder.

[mortal mural]

this was going to be my advice too but since he didnt asked about tier i didnt say anything. t2 + has a much better game experience.

[rigid yoke]

Hello there I am interested to buy land so can anyone guide which land will be good and how can it will give me some benefits in game and for future I can hold for longer

[gentle grove]

I want to mint my bp

[timber sapphire]

From alpha?

[gentle grove]

No from now

[timber sapphire]

That's not implemented yet

[gentle grove]

No shit I said i want to

[twin sequoia]

That´s true, and fuel is not scarce, but it also is more expensive. T1 is for a more relaxed game

[upbeat drift]

so how is the game going?

bought the lands at the first sale,hold soo much time...and i am very disappointed,feel like zero game was very overlooked

even tho soo much money raised from land sales,zero game was ruined from a earning perpective

is the fuel price still going down?the slash of 75% in production was a very bad statement from the team...that they can ruin someone plans and game,just like that