🎮〕illuvium-zero

[uneven pulsar]

tarsfer 1 and create oder 19?

[whole spear]

Transfer 1 = Get 1

[lost walrus]

Cool

[noble willow]

send love to the devs for getting it done peeps

[whole spear]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[whole spear]

But yes they appreciate love

[noble willow]

gotta give the pick me ups as well as the wen.

[primal kayak]

Can i transfer fuel now from fuel exchange to my plot?

[radiant sky]

No

[empty path]

You can transfer from plot to overworld

[noble willow]

do you need a complete log out and in to get the update, or is it a live push patch?

[empty path]

We will find out when they are done patching I guess

[queen cairn]

Materials lab 2 what does better than lab1 ? It seems like it only cost more doing research.

[empty path]

I think it's needed to research higher tier biodata?

[queen cairn]

Was hoping it was going to up the success rate of lower tier also. But it doesn’t
There is no description of what It does. Even for the bio scanner. They only cost more ?

[empty path]

I'm not sure but I don't think it does

[copper falcon]

hmm, the last IZ patch note states "The overall rate of a successful scan has been changed. Previously, it ranged from 25% to 75% based on efficiency (from 50% to 150% efficiency, respectively). This has been reduced to 11% to 41% based on efficiency (from 50% to 150% efficiency, respectively)". So this means that scanners can have up to 150% efficiency! But how can this be achieved, i've never seen them with more than 100% efficiency🤔

[grizzled remnant]

How can we reach scanner 150% efficiency ? Thanks
Now that i just started to find blueprint with T5 scanner. Get nerfed. Hope T4 enjoy having lots of good biodata that Will be lot harder to find now

[empty path]

Max is 100 for scanner afaik

[whole spear]

Quit the game

and youll update the client

on whatever you play on

[stray reef]

Good question. Can someone answer this?

[empty path]

Yeah just wanted to reply, gotta open the epic store and update

[pearl marten]

Yep good points
@verbal igloo any thoughts on this?

[vocal pasture]

Transfer is working flawlessly for me! 1:1 ratio instant transfer

Great work team!

[whole spear]

Trying to get clarification from someone Perry is OOO. May be a typo not sure yet

[vocal pasture]

simple and easy

[stray reef]

That's what I thought. Then why do the patch notes say that "Previously, it ranged from 25% to 75% based on efficiency (from 50% to 150% efficiency, respectively)"?

[empty path]

No idea, I don't read patch notes

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-kek-bttv-twitch-emote-gif-15123134

[harsh dew]

Scanning Droprate

[queen cairn]

Looks like I’m going to build a new material lab just to research the same 5% success rate . But at a lower cost than the material lab 2 🤔

[upper creek]

Fuel name for fuel converters aren't correct

[austere tendon]

so scan droprate got nerfed yea?

[pearl marten]

@whole spear first skin i create goes to you ... for a small fee of course 😂
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[timber sapphire]

So when I finally started with blueprints because of the fuel nerf, the blueprints get nerfed. Thx illuvium

[pearl marten]

Same applies to OW

[austere tendon]

yea sheesh

[timber sapphire]

They dont like t1 and t2 players

[fair temple]

Nothing was changed to blueprints right? It is biodata, scanning that was nerfed.

[austere tendon]

rough pill to swallow for those who have been grinding to get to scanners

[timber sapphire]

Well I first need biodata

[empty path]

Please write down: Community wants you to stop nerfing land
Didn't we get screwed over enough already?

[pearl marten]

But BPs were way harder to get than biodata

Now both are on the same page

[grizzled remnant]

I think the nerf should have been done. Biodata was to easy to get. But thats Hurt as any nerf..

[fair temple]

So...? Now you can choose one biodata to farm, and when you obtain the blueprint, you should have 1 more biodata. Not 2

[pearl marten]

Totally agree

[pearl marten]

Wait what?? 😅

[stray reef]

Not yet if i understand it correctly. But when all regions are out it will be the same weighting

"this now acts as the weights for Overworld as well upon release of all regions."

[fair temple]

Idk, blueprints are tough to get you say. But biodata werent right?

They nerfed it by roughly 2x. The 100% should have 26% chance of finding a biodata now. So previously you would have 2x as many biodata.

[grizzled remnant]

Would have been great to test thoses things in beta instead of tweaking the numbers after the launch but here we go. Rushed everywhere

[pearl marten]

@fair temple I have 70+ biodata on one plot and only 8 BPs obtained ... scanning and researching were the same for me from the start as importance.. so i 100% am telling you BPs are difficult to obtain(more costly in the end)

[vocal pasture]

Well... We can just celebrate the OW transfer mechanism that finally came and is working as intended 🙂

[fair temple]

Aha, well i was just pulling numbers out of thin air. The 1 PB 2 biodata apparently was more a 1 BP 10 biodata.

With this update it would be 1 BP 5 biodata then?

So still 4 biodata you wouldnt know what to do with.

[grizzled remnant]

The background screen is more bugged than before

[empty path]

It's art

[fair temple]

For me during alpha they had my background upside down xD i was so confused.

[pearl marten]

Idk how it will work but i do agree biodata findings should have been tuned down... and i totally get it that some people might not like it

I even said this before.. biodata was a bit too easy to find

[grizzled remnant]

Oh that was the case just before the patch for me

OMG. I can collect infinite ressources with the converter

[slender crown]

Anyone have a link to where they show how to transfer fuel to OW?

[pearl marten]

I'm just waiting for a clarification on how we could get 150% eff on scanners based on the patch updates

[fair temple]

Quick message @verbal igloo lol what do you mean? XD

[crystal narwhal]

Theres is a big fuel bug

just sent a bug report

[high sleet]

Great Illuvium zero update!

[atomic cove]

great update, but the fuel cost for the containers continues wrong...

[crystal narwhal]

Not sure How I did it but my converters kept giving me fuel non stop

[grizzled remnant]

I closed thr game and réopened and it fixed. Didnt have converter ready to claim for fuel. My carbon converter passive was in the middle ready to claim.
I could claim infinite time on it

Makng +200k +200k +200k every tap

[queen cairn]

Seems fun

[grizzled remnant]

I checked my storage and it wasnt ui bug. It really did

[atomic cove]

how come upgrading a solon containment unit is more expensive than the other ones? ....

[fair temple]

Should be fixed asap. If you send all that to yourself we break the economy.

[grizzled remnant]

Maybe its because i had the old version in background opened when i updated the game.
But ilv should force us to clean or close the game anyway if that cause impact

[fair temple]

@verbal igloo revert changes

[crystal narwhal]

yeah there's something wrong with the converters

[verbal igloo]

We are not aware of this particular issue, so please let us know if still happens. It is client/local side only tho, so restarting the game will show correct amounts anyway, and the server will not be affected by this bug

[crystal narwhal]

Can't replicate it now, but the fuel converters game me fuel non stop

[verbal igloo]

We will start investigating this

[fair temple]

Oh thats a relief. I thought we had an economy breaking bug.

[queen cairn]

Wow. Just sold those converters cause they seemed useless to me. And now this happened.

[grizzled remnant]

I restarted the game just after seeing it doing and tried to do it again but didnt happen back.

[grizzled remnant]

Oh he had the same

I cant replicate it too

[fair temple]

Since you restarted, Mindya, is the fuel rectified?

[verbal igloo]

Is not gonna happen. The server has authority over all the user actions, even if the client breaks for some reason

[grizzled remnant]

Didnt try on fuel before restarted

[fair temple]

In that case pardon my hysteria xD

[grizzled remnant]

But did try on all the converter after reopen the game afterward and was fixed. Even in my ressources converter

[verbal igloo]

No worries, thanks for raising it

[crystal narwhal]

hmm I restarted the client and still got the fuel

[atomic cove]

@verbal igloo any reason why upgrading a solon containment unit is more expensive than the other ones?

[crystal narwhal]

I sent a bug report, that should help

[queen cairn]

A Solon is a Solon. Need to pay the price. 😅

[verbal igloo]

Personally I don't know any reason for this, so I am assuming it might be a value mistake on the config side. Will have to investigate it

[fair temple]

Can you send it to yourself? See if it blockchain worthy? Press fuel storage, send to yourself?

[empty path]

Patch days are fun

[queen cairn]

What does research lab 2 better than research lab 1. Seems it only cost more doing blueprints research.

[crystal narwhal]

it gives me the option to, yes

[vocal pasture]

Fuel appears on blockchain? though it was not ERC20 yet....

[pearl marten]

Also any input on how scanners can get to 150% efficiency?
The patch notes state that

[fair temple]

Well you can send it to yourself and if it then shows up in-game i imagine it at least works as a currency in-game right?

[vocal pasture]

yep, this is true and working fine. At least for me

[fair temple]

Well great!
But if this is tied to the bug that makes infinite fuel and it works... then we have a bit of an issue. 👍

[vocal pasture]

infinite fuel bug???? another sILV??

[radiant sky]

seems to be for all level except lvl 2 upgrades.
Ticket #63644 for screenshots

[radiant sky]

seems to be typo in patchnotes, already pinged rich about it

[verbal igloo]

Might be a typo, I am also checking it rn to see if anything has changed in this regard

[tawny wasp]

Curious what these number mean:

Is that the total cost worth of fuel I have

[verbal igloo]

if you refer to the numbers that have the $ sign, yes, its an estimated $ value of your fuel

[empty path]

It's also very wrong

[thorny crater]

Ayyyyy and the day of the patch… un son un son

I have been search for a blue print for axon for about a 2-3 weeks now. Can’t get it to save my life. Now it’s time to see how this one goes 😅

[atomic cove]

those numbers are a bit off 😅

[crystal narwhal]

did the bug again, but still unsure how

[simple lance]

wen can we sell blueprints?

[radiant sky]

can you send it to ow and rinse and repeat?

[crystal narwhal]

can't repeat it consistently, it just happens

still haven't figured it out what triggers it

[verbal igloo]

what do you mean by very wrong? To me it seems pretty accurate especially since its an estimated value

[true rampart]

sending fuel to use in OW is pegged to 1:1 ratio correct ?

non of the 1:19 bs and all that

[verbal igloo]

yes

[true rampart]

ok ty

finally a land owner W

[empty path]

If it predicts $10 you might get 10 cent for it

[radiant sky]

are there sell orders for DAO being created when sending fuel?

[tulip fox]

What should I do to have singularity scanner withe more than 100% efficiency?

[true rampart]

thats the max (i think)

[radiant sky]

most likely typo in patchnotes

[verbal igloo]

The estimated price is taken from the current market value of the item, not really sure what you mean

That value will go up/down depending on the market, is not static

[noble willow]

but it's not Friday at 3pm, why aren't we waiting till then for patching?

[radiant sky]

no, it's top rail prices, at least it seems like it according to the screenshots

[empty path]

If you use the price it estimates, you don't get a single sale

[verbal igloo]

Oh I do understand now what you mean

[noble willow]

Just to confirm, was the patch for playing on mobile as well as desktop? I use both, but currently am on mobile for play. No send fuel button there atm after logging out, shutting down, logging back in.

[verbal igloo]

Yes, the update should cover all platforms. Can you go to your mobile store page and look for IZ? it should give you an option to manually update

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/u-unlimited-power-star-wars-lightning-gif-14542323

Me after playing the update

Did I read correctly we can use our own fuel in game now?

[turbid sandal]

hey guys, how do we transfer fuel to our overworld accounts with the new patch?

[empty path]

Just click the fuel on top (if you don't understand there is video clip in the pinned messages)

Make sure to update the game first in the app store / epic store

[atomic cove]

it's the problem with this convoluted bonus system...

[turbid sandal]

thanks Fraggy, it worked! Great job to the team for implementing this change 😄

[spring void]

What does leveling up singularity scanner do? Higher chance for higher stage illuvials?

[radiant sky]

the level of the scanner determines what max tier of biodata you can find.
for example:
a lvl 3 scanner can find biodata of t1-t3 illuvials
a lvl 5 scanner can find biodata fo t1-t5 illuvials

[thorny crater]

I think I am tripping but what is happening in this video? For me on iPhone it’s just nothing at all. As in it just look like a few secs of a land being records with nothing going on

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[spring void]

Looks like I better level my scanners up then! Is there a need for more than 1 data bank? And do I need to level up the data bank to research higher tier illuvials?

[radiant sky]

the data bank is the storage for you biodata and blueprint data.
without a databank you can just store up to 5 data.
leveling up the data bank opens up more storage for data.

so, if you are a collector, you might need more than 1 data bank.

[queen cairn]

And lvl up materials labs what does sir ?

[radiant sky]

idk actually, haven't a max data bank yet, but i guess the storage is highly limited.

[radiant sky]

the level of your material labs determine what tier of biodata you can research.
for example:
a lvl 3 material lab can research t1-t3 biodata.
a lvl 5 material lab can research t1-t5 biodata.

[grizzled remnant]

So you was able to print infinite fuel, send it in your ow. And repeat.
If you were able to reproduce the bug even after opened back the game. Its annoying

[thorny crater]

When I click my fuel it just shows amounts. The video doesn’t show anything from my end. No sound or anything happening in the video.

[empty path]

Did you update the game?

[thorny crater]

Yeah it just has “open” in the App Store

[empty path]

You'll have to find a way to update it first

[thorny crater]

BUT I opened that game before reading the announcements

Ah gross

Never mind

[vagrant mauve]

the game assets i have in Illuvium:Zero in my free account, I cant use any of those in Illuvium:Overworld??

[thorny crater]

App Store is tripping lol

[empty path]

No

[vagrant heron]

So I just tried sending a few crypton over, worked fine without any issues

[verbal igloo]

That is not possible, and I already mentioned it a couple time. What he is able to replicate is a client only (visual) bug, that will not affect the server in any way

[junior depot]

Is it automatic the transfer of fuel or is there a process?

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/hhgf-gif-25031041

[verbal igloo]

there is a pinned video showing how to do it

[thorny crater]

Me right now

[tribal blaze]

shoutout to the team for taking our feedback on the fuel price of some of these upgrades and adjusting it since the lowered fuel production. Thats a huge fix, thanks for prioritizing it

[thorny crater]

I second this! Y’all are so awesome

[tribal blaze]

also strategic move to bury a major scanning rate nerf in there 🤣

[thorny crater]

All my convertirá are now 150% too. So glad I started building my extra lots just for fuel only. I have a t2 and t3 focused on bps.

So I’m well rounded lol

[empty path]

You can see it as a reward for the people that started scanning early

[junior depot]

I can't play it for some reason

[undone cedar]

when play store update?

[tribal blaze]

true. aka T3 and above which didn't need any help IMO, but hey I recognize you gotta dial in that rate to be what you want it to be so the prices of this stuff don't inflate to nothing

[thorny crater]

Needed

[undone cedar]

still runing the old version

[thorny crater]

Bps were to common same with bios

Imo

[tribal blaze]

yeah I totally get it

[thorny crater]

Now when I get one the excitement has doubled

[verbal igloo]

Try checking the IZ store page for manual update

[undone cedar]

ty

[thorny crater]

Yeah I had to click into the App Store page

[verbal igloo]

On the new version, click on the top resources bar. It should be pretty straight forward to do it

[thorny crater]

It just said open from the outside store oage but when I clicked inside it had the update button

Apple is tripping

[vagrant mauve]

sorry, but no i cant use zero assets in overworld or no i can use zero assets in overworld
?

[inland shore]

Yeah this was low

[verbal igloo]

you can transfer and use your IZ produced fuel, inside OW

[mortal smelt]

Why does it seem like higher tiers get to exploit the game and lower tiers have to suffer the consequences like seriously

[empty path]

You can't use assets from the free land plot

[inland shore]

They basically cut the scanning success in half and then by another 20% with regions

[brisk hound]

damn I'm playing as a "scholar" on lands so no fuel can't be sent to My actual overworld :c

[pearl marten]

After updating it on my mobile (android 14) the loading of the game takes way longer than before ... about 1 min sometimes more
And when changing between plots it just gets stuck at the loading screen.. i have to force close the game and restart it every time

[inland shore]

So they kill fuel and then scanning

[thorny crater]

Money.

[undone cedar]

similar situationhere

[tribal blaze]

everyone gets so salty about this stuff. Like they need to balance the production rates because too many blueprints makes all blueprints worth nothing.

[thorny crater]

Same with how elon can borrow against his stocks but I can’t borrow against mine own 401k stocks

[junior depot]

I like this patch better than the last one.

[vagrant mauve]

if i cant use Illuvials & fuels i get in zero in overworld, there is zero point in play Illuvium:zero's free version....(puns intended)

[inland shore]

The update did not affect blueprints just scanning

[verbal igloo]

We are not aware of this issue. The plot loading time should actually be more optimized now

[mortal smelt]

The problem is it took this LONG to fix the issue

[pearl marten]

Unfortunately it's the opposite ... and I'm not the only one reporting this
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[brisk hound]

coutns towards the Zero Missions for the season and is mainly made to teach players the game before the buy a plot

[mortal smelt]

So the only ones who benefit were the higher tiers

[lavish light]

Is there any advantage to using a higher level Materials Lab to research a lower level illuvial -- or does it just cost more with no benefit?

[junior depot]

Can I play simultaneously both OW and Zero?

[thorny crater]

Oof. Ok I’m out haha

Good job team. I’m proud of you. Keep up the great work

[verbal igloo]

thanks for reporting this, will start investigating

[brisk hound]

Had no issues doing so myself

[tribal blaze]

yeah i don't disagree with that really, T4s got to just crank em out while the drop rate was high

[junior depot]

Awesome thanks!

[pearl marten]

No prob.. thank you!

[tribal blaze]

but can't be too salty still, this is a very speculative asset, they payed more, they get that perk. This is very clearly still a work in progress to get it dialed in, gotta deal with the bumps in the road

[inland shore]

A speculation that we are losing in

[mortal smelt]

guess you bought your land recently then...

[tribal blaze]

I bought on land sale

[vagrant mauve]

bring the price of land down to 10-20$ then, thats how much i'll pay to use zero with overworld, if not... i see zero point in zero (missions dont mean anything to me, i play games for fun, not to earn an income)
sorry if i come across as blunt

[inland shore]

T3 lands are down 6 to 7 x what most people paid

[mortal smelt]

then you should understand the frustrations with land in general

[tribal blaze]

I'm just not expecting a positive ROI after 1 month like a lot of people seem to be. I knew I was buying an absurdly speculative asset that almost certainly was not going to make me money, but hey maybe it would

[brisk hound]

then ppl will wuy 10 lands and never buy fuel again, screwing the economy of all games

[mortal smelt]

not only gameplay but the price of land makes what Kieran said about 2 year ROI seem OBSOLETE

[inland shore]

none of us expected 1 month ROI. We did excpect atleast a 2-3 year ROI and that's not gonna happen

[tribal blaze]

it will happen if the actual game is successfull and that increases demand for land.

there is no demand for land because the game is not that good right now

fuel production rates and balance changes won't fix that

[mortal smelt]

What steps are they making to make it successful? I heard the same iteration in the AMA

[brisk hound]

the simple fact of farming your own fuel gives a bit more incentive tho we're estill far from a "need"

[vagrant mauve]

i should at least use the assets in my free account for myself because i still put time into it for myself

[mint scroll]

Change log?

[inland shore]

Well that and they keep messing up the updates with bugs, minting issues, IMX issues, and poor decisions due to inexperience in the industry

[mortal smelt]

Why try to get a economist in now when they had tons of time to do it previously, there are mistakes being made and the way it was tried to be owned up was meh.

[tribal blaze]

i agree with both of those points

[brisk hound]

Zero free to play is acting like a "demo" , you never get to use ressources obtained in a demo into the full game, not that i am aware of at least

[vagrant mauve]

thats a shame 😦

[brisk hound]

I get that, tho I rather have that than no opportunity to try the game, at least now I know if it's for me of not. a LOT of web3 games don't even give that opportunity

I prefer having a t0 for "fun" than being forced to cash 170e for a T1 not knowing if I will even like the game

[mortal smelt]

Kieran is a good sales man, and that is just it.

I am going to be blunt

[near tusk]

how do you transfer fuel?

[empty path]

Did you update the game? Then just click on the fuel at the top.
Or check the video in the pinned messages

[near tusk]

ty

[flint compass]

So, this new feature: Transferring fuel from Illuvium: Zero to the Fuel Exchange for use in the Overworld, how is it accomplished?

[brisk hound]

you directly send from Zero to Overworld by clicking on your fuel in zero and clicking : send fuel

then you can use it to travel / craft in overworld

[flint compass]

I see now. Thank you!

[tough field]

What a data bank does? Why do I need it?

[empty path]

You need it to store biodata

[tough field]

But the scanner already can store some, right?

[lavish light]

Is there any advantage to using a higher level Materials Lab to research a lower level illuvial -- or does it just cost more with no benefit?

[tardy falcon]

So, does transferring fuel to the OW trigger the DAO to sell 19x on market or no?

[lavish light]

Geez. Talk about double punishment . . . I passed on scanning to use the fuel to upgrade and now upgrading costs less fuel and scanning got nerfed. FML.

[radiant sky]

also got stuck in loading plot screen once, waited for arround 3-5 mins and then restarted the game to fix it.

[foggy sage]

There is. If u get t4 illuvials u need a t4 or higher material lab to scan them

[verbal igloo]

Thanks for mentioning it. We are already investigating this

[undone phoenix]

I have the error where 1 of my plots where stuck on loading screen. (Not the path error)

Now, it stays on loading screen for 10 seconds, and returns to plot selection after.

Do you have a guesstimate when the bug will be resolved? Kind of sad not being able to produce fuel on your tier 3 land for weeks now 🥲

[spring void]

Thank you!

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[lavish light]

I understand that. My question is -- "Is it best to build multiple materials labs and keep one at each level to save on fuel costs OR is there some advantage to using a higher level lab when researching a lower level illuvial (i.e. it isn't a fuel waste).

[radiant sky]

you have a default storage of 5.
if you want to store more data, you need to build data banks

[foggy sage]

No and no to your questions

[verbal igloo]

due to the fact that the server side team is ooo today and tomorrow, I would estimate we can have a fix in the next few days

[tardy falcon]

@verbal igloo Do u know if self fuel transfers trigger DAO to sell 19x?

[signal maple]

? how can we get above 100% eff for scanner

[lavish light]

The announcement mentions scan efficiency of 50% to 150%. How do you get scan efficiency above 100%?

[foggy sage]

Build them max them out and research the higheatbtoer and higheatbstage one u have for any sort of profit other wise ur wasting time

[verbal igloo]

it is a typo, will be fixed @patent zealot

[lavish light]

😦

[signal maple]

hope ur devs dont typo also in the code

[verbal igloo]

It sometimes happen to all of us, we are humans 🤖

[lavish light]

Except that the market will adjust and prices will drop for level 5 and go up for level 4.

So . . . I'll repeat my question . . . .
"Is it best to build multiple materials labs and keep one at each level to save on fuel costs OR is there some advantage to using a higher level lab when researching a lower level illuvial (i.e. it isn't a fuel waste)."

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-pogo-the-umbrella-academy-you-sure-about-that-do-you-know-for-sure-gif-26245533

[foggy sage]

No the market wont because the lower lands wont be able to scan and research t5 and t4 they will be proced out

Priced*

A t1 land can not scan 5 stage 5 and research 5 stages that cost 540 fuel to do

Hell not even a t3 can do that

Not to mention the months it takes.for them.to get to stage 5

[lavish light]

Why can't they? It just takes longer to accumulate the fuel.

[whole void]

Land transfer if my fuel is still there

[foggy sage]

Yea but they will wait weeks for that and weeks for the small chance os.gonna feel so.bad for them

That they will stick to lower tier ones

Every one has access toaterial lab level 1 which means t1 and below are gonna be researched the most.

[signal maple]

ya just kidding its my job so I can feel that. For good part, I just bought an empty tier 1 this morning. This afternoon I have been able to got the fuel extractor and will update to nexus V today. I think the beginning phase have been really smooth out even for T1

[foggy sage]

It takes so much to upgrade and scan a stage 5 scanner or material lab. They wont be abudent as u think

U can jave a stage 1 scanner get lucky and get a rhamphite stage 3 bio data. Well now u have to upgradge ur material lab to stage 5 to be able tp scan it.

[lavish light]

I've got tier 2 lands producing 150 fuel/day and level 4 scanners and materials labs.
Scanning and researching each cost 45 for level 4.
And I am upgrading to level 5s.

[foggy sage]

For a t1 land thats gonna take months

Yup but that was pre nerf on the fuel now if u scan and run it all u go net negative for the day

[stable minnow]

Wait, you can only hold a certain amount of blueprints?

How does that interact with data banks?

[foggy sage]

More data banks more stuff u hold

[lavish light]

Upgrading from level 4 to level 5 scanner used to take 652 fuel when (i.e. 5 days worth).

Now I gotta research all my numbers again.

[foggy sage]

(45×5)×2 Is what?

[lavish light]

What fuel nerf?

[foggy sage]

The nerf they did a month ago

[lavish light]

Then my numbers still work -- 150 fuel per day and 45 for a level 4 scan or research. No problem.

[stable minnow]

and upgrading them the same? Do we have numbers on how many blueprints per data bank?

[foggy sage]

So u have all material labs and scanners going at stage 4 cost u 450 a day to run u prodices 150 a day u lose 300 fuel a day if u run everything

[foggy sage]

Yes 55 at stage 3 that includes bio data and blueprints

[lavish light]

What do you mean "all" material labs and scanners?

[stable minnow]

Thanks

[foggy sage]

I mean if u run 5 scanners and 5 material labs

[lavish light]

AH! So you are running one at each level.

[foggy sage]

If 5 scanners at stage 4 are scanning and 5 material labs at stage 4 are researching

[foggy sage]

No im running all of them at stage 5

I have 5 scanners at stage 5 and 5 material labs at stage 5 all independently running at the same time

[lavish light]

So you aren't researching any low level illuvials?

[foggy sage]

No because every.one will have access to t1 blue prints so its a waste of time

Very few will be able to run 5 t5 scanners and 5 t5 material.labs which means t5 illuvial blue prints will be really rare compared to gyro skins and axodon skins

[rugged tiger]

so zero point transducer isnt even needed for fuel transfer? 😄

oh man

[foggy sage]

Yes it is

[rugged tiger]

ah it is?

[foggy sage]

U have to just imagine it is

[rugged tiger]

fine, good to have it though 😄

[hazy tartan]

😂😂

[foggy sage]

Its part of the lore

[gilded drift]

when we collect fuel from converters do we also collect passively generated fuel?

[lavish light]

WHat is the advantage of higher level transducers?

[foggy sage]

Upgrading the transducer should let u convert fuel before sending to overworld

[foggy sage]

There is none.

[rugged tiger]

i guess for blueprint transferrals

[foggy sage]

It was needed to for the market place they had like a year ago hut they scrapped that in favor of the dao and never did anything with the building.

[noble willow]

no

[rugged tiger]

i also have no real idea, but i maxed mine to lvl3 and now i want to get sth for it 😄 sth like transfer quicker or more at once

[gilded drift]

Uh.. hopefully there will be at least some indication that you have passive fuel

[noble willow]

yes you should see the total it has already generated depending on your efficiency and level.

and it will leave it there if you don't click on that collect button

[inland shore]

Pretty amazing this hasn't been fixed yet.. but i'd bet we see more nerfs to the economy

[lavish light]

How do you transfer blueprints? I haven't found it in the UI.

[foggy sage]

So if a t2 land makes 150 fuel a day and they hope to run all scanners at stage 5 and all materials at stage 5 it would cost them 180 fuel of each type. For a total of 540.

They would negative 390 fuel a day

[noble willow]

what would be the point of converting fuel if you lost the passive fuel at the same time?

[rugged tiger]

i did a first test transferral of some solon - is there any history?

[foggy sage]

Not even a stage 3 can really sustain that

[lavish light]

Why not run a lower number of scanners/research than 5?

[inland shore]

We are talking about collecting passive fuel when you collect converted fuel

[long current]

Is the patch deployment really complete? I still don't see any options to use my own fuel for Overworld

[quiet heath]

Do we have a record of the % of bonus fuel?

What it has been the highest so far?
I can now for example for 100 crypton purchase gives 209 bonus, so give it or take 200% (obviously there will be fluctuation within 10 minutes)

It would be interesting to know

[foggy sage]

So yes if u plan to make any money with blue prints u need scan/research the highest tier and the highest stage u can afford.

[rugged tiger]

it appears in overworld asap at least, wohoooo

[verbal igloo]

make sure you updated the client, and that you are not playing a f2p plot

[upbeat drift]

so what s profitable to do now in ilv zero?

better to go for bp than fuel?

[radiant sky]

has anyone successfully updated on iOS yet?
a friend seems to struggle to update it via store.

[inland shore]

currently nothing. All speculative. Unless youc an generate enough fuel to use in Overworld which just became an option today

[foggy sage]

Its more profitable to get a minimum wage job and use that to buy fuel and blue prints lol

[inland shore]

yup

[foggy sage]

7.25 a hour would generate you more.fuel then any land

[upbeat drift]

so more profitable to play overworld?

[lavish light]

How do you transfer blueprints? I don't see that option in the UI?

[inland shore]

yup

[upbeat drift]

i have a lot of fuel from crates...11k of each is a lot or it doesn t get you anywhere?

[radiant sky]

you can't mint blueprints yet.

[fair temple]

Is that an option at all? XD

[foggy sage]

You would be getting about 3k fuel an hour with current bonuses if u worked a 7.25$ per hour job

[lavish light]

SO how are higher level blueprints available?

[fair temple]

Working sounds like a bug. Just like mining eth was so much easier than using the 0.1 eth per day during testnet.

[radiant sky]

not sure i understand what you mean

[lavish light]

Can you currently get high level blueprints for Overworld?

[radiant sky]

what you mean with level?
At the moment only alphas1 blueprints are available in Overworld as far as i'm aware, since those could be minted back in february during the minting window.

[gilded drift]

I've scanned tier 5 illiuvial but I think you can't mint blueprint yet

[quiet heath]

Does anyone remember what was the highest bonus received?

Has it been 3x? , 5x?, 10x ?

[thorny crater]

based on selling price and market price

just do a search in the esarch bars thaere are many convos on it

[lavish light]

Yes, I meant better than the alphas1 blueprints. How do you sell those, by the way? I haven't tried yet and I have a bunchload.

[foggy sage]

? I mean working a real life job and using the money u earn from the job to pay for illuvium runs and illuvials

[radiant sky]

you should be able to sell those on the illuvidex.
haven't tried it myself to be honest but many did list it back then.

[foggy sage]

The amount of money people spent on the land during the pre sale could have funded their overworld runs for a very long time lol

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/indeed-tealc-stargate-gif-4496552

[fair temple]

I know. It sounds like a bug xD 3K per hour!? Hehe

[lavish light]

What is the point to high level resource generators (Hydrogen Pump/Sediment Excavator/Mine)? Level 7s produce more resources than I can use even with building and maxed fuel producers. Is there some other use for resources that I'm not aware of (like a market?).

[radiant sky]

not really... an element sink for endgame is still missing.

[lavish light]

Is there a reason why you would ever want to build a level 8 storage building rather than multiple level 7s (other than space)? The fuel cost to storage ratio is worse . . . .

[radiant sky]

it's just space...

which is limited

[keen sapphire]

Hi, new to this space, loads of questions that have probably been answered tons of times

[sudden zinc]

GM! As I did not so far.. how do I sell fuel? What is the process to do so? Thanks 🙏

[hazy tartan]

I’m like 99% sure that the added numbers are off, every time I have something that says (+xxx) amount on a storage it’s double what’s in that bubble. Like for my resource storages it’ll say +250k but it adds 500k to the total

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-michael-scott-dunder-mifflin-the-office-welcome-aboard-gif-27005393

[keen sapphire]

My understanding is that the free plot of land you get when you start playing is like any other free game, useless. 🙌

And unless you purchase a plot, you can't actually sell or use any fuel to play with in overworld, is that correct?

[fair temple]

Yes

[keen sapphire]

Though there may at some point be a method that connects zero and overworld more deeply

Currently, no

[radiant sky]

there's a "fuel exchange" on the illuvium website.

[keen sapphire]

And if you do purchase a plot, you can play on that plot in zero

Play meaning mining for things

But the free plot, is still useless

[radiant sky]

Zero f2p is mainly for getting to know how Zero works before you have to pay for a Land nft. In future there might be more Fun, social activities and competitive pvp/pve features implemented.

For now:

• you can't sell any assets generated on your f2p plot yet
• you can't use any assets in other Games than Zero itself yet

However, you can:

• play for Fun
• play for Airdrop missions
• play for possible future features.

Also the tokens you generate with Level ups are Account bound. If you one day decide to buy a Land you can use those tokens to Speed that Land up or buy builders there.

[fair temple]

Well it is useless but there for the fun of playing the game

[keen sapphire]

And anything you build on it, is really just for giggling and funzies

[fair temple]

Clash of clans is also just for giggling and funzies.

[keen sapphire]

What about paying for more builders

Is that locked per land, or account wide

[radiant sky]

builderrs are locked on land

[keen sapphire]

Well that just bites my chesticles

Wish I had known that prior...

And land is going to set me back about... Mm.. 200 minimum yeah

Hoping I can find one that has all the fuel types

So, how exactly does finding new land plots work

[lavish light]

Yeah. I've noticed the same thing -- but the ratio stil holds. 😄

[fair temple]

You go on the marketplace, filter on the specifics you would like, and then you can check where it is and whether you want to procure it.

Since you want one of each fuel, you would have to go for at least a T2 land though

[keen sapphire]

This is good to know

[foggy sage]

Iqas thinking does this mean more fuel will produce since a good amoint of players had no access to their land due to the path bug preventing them from playing?

[lavish light]

T2 land does not guarantee a fuel of each type -- it merely guarantees three fuel sources. Converters fixes that.
T1 land can produce all fuel types -- just at a lower rate (again, as long as you have conveters)

[keen sapphire]

Can I delete my original free plot

It just saddens me to even look at it

Knowing how useless it is. 😭

Other than for the funzies and giggles I mean

[fair temple]

Yes i know. But he said quote: "hoping i find one with all the fuel types".

Which implies that he wantz a T2 plot at least since only T2-T4 have 3+ fuel extraction points.

[lavish light]

You can't delete it -- but you can reset it so it looks like you never wasted your time. 😄

[keen sapphire]

Oh, I may just do that

[foggy sage]

U can reset plot so that way its empty and u just pretend it never happend

[empty path]

Getting free coins is never a waste of time

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-do-it-stop-batman-gif-18165775

[empty path]

• airdrop

[foggy sage]

I was thinking about doing that with my T4 land and then doing a streamed speed run of it

Start the ranked illuvium zero scene

[keen sapphire]

So, there's reasons to continue with the free plot?

Earning of rewardzies

[hazy tartan]

As it stands I don’t see a way that I maintain the 2 per 2 days from my fuel converters after this patch. If I don’t hold to atleast 2 every 2 days we might’ve got another fuel nerf actually lol

[crimson plaza]

How do you transfer straight to overworld?

[frozen finch]

@thin wolf ☝️

[fiery iris]

can we get this clown out of here??

[lavish light]

Scam?

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[tardy falcon]

did we get an answer on DAO printing fuel from transfers?

[wanton canopy]

That was cool! I saw that rogue message disappear in real time almost as soon as someone flagged it!

[undone phoenix]

Faster than expected. Thanks for giving me hope 🙌🏻

[lavish light]

Is there any use for Podariums when you are producing too many resources as it is? I'm tempted to selll mine. Any reason why I shouldn't?

[radiant sky]

not yet

[tardy falcon]

Why is it so hard to get a straight answer about DAO fuel printing for transfers? It's a simple yes/no

[radiant sky]

podarium features aren't implemented yet

[knotty idol]

i jus use the space to grow more plants ;-p

[keen sapphire]

If you have a real land plot leveled up all the way, what is your maximum/average daily profit from selling fuel, assuming a T2 plot

[lavish light]

Really? I thought that it already increased the number of plants/day . . . .
Are there more features planned for it in the future?

[last tiger]

Hey do you guys already transfer fuel to you main OW? And how it's done?

[radiant sky]

i didn't notice any +growth in its AOE when i tried it out, but maybe i was just unlucky and it is already in.

Yes, you can stack morphopods in the podarium later, which determine to what affinity your plants mutate.
if you harvest those mutated plants, they will grant you dye's instead of elements you get from normal plants.

Dye's are use in the skin crafting process.

At least that was the plan a while ago, maybe stuff changed.

[radiant sky]

check pins

[fiery iris]

with comments like that...

[last tiger]

I know the update but u will need a zero translucent?

I'm in mobile atm can't check lol

[keen sapphire]

Any answers?

[fiery iris]

wow so they further reduced the passive production for converters?

[keen sapphire]

Is this one of those painful questions that don't want to be answered

[last tiger]

Reduce or increase? Fuk

[fiery iris]

reduced.... stage 6 converters now produce 33% less passively

[lavish light]

Interesting. How did you find that out?

[hazy tartan]

From what I see it has been, will see when collection time comes. I was at 2 per 2/3 days previously from each so I’m just gonna use that as my reference point

[lavish light]

Nope. Pay attention to the time period.

[foggy sage]

think it doubled

nvm it stayed the same

[radiant sky]

first draft of the building got leaked couple months ago

[lavish light]

The time perion was halved from 288 to 144 so the production in 288 hours is 18 instead of 12.

[lavish light]

Where?

[radiant sky]

in here

[foggy sage]

so actually fuel increase

[lavish light]

yes

[foggy sage]

oh wow they need to nerf fuel again to many fuel being produce will cause price to crash

[last tiger]

I just did 2

[lavish light]

Hardly. Converters still overwhelmed by the sources.

[foggy sage]

Passive generation
For each converter

Stage 1: 2 fuel in 2 cycles in 288 hours → 1 fuel in 2 cycles in 144 hours

Stage 2: 3 fuel in 2 cycles in 288 hours → 2 fuel in 2 cycles in 144 hours

Stage 3: 4 fuel in 4 cycles in 288 hours → 3 fuel in 2 cycles in 144 hours

Stage 4: 6 fuel in 4 cycles in 288 hours → 5 fuel in 3 cycles in 144 hours

Stage 5: 8 fuel in 6 cycles in 288 hours → 7 fuel in 3 cycles in 144 hours

Stage 6: 12 fuel in 6 cycles in 288 hours → 9 fuel in 3 cycles in 144 hours

so now in 288 hours a stage will generate 18 fuel instead of 12

that is big fuel production increase we should cut extractors again by 75%

[lavish light]

That is NOT a big fuel production increase when level 6 sources produce 150 in 24 hours.

[foggy sage]

that is huge brother, we need to keep fuel production as close to 0 so prices doesnt continue to fall

[tardy falcon]

Why don’t we just make a new building… incinerator. There we can burn anything we want… fuel, tokens, land… fk it ourselves

[foggy sage]

amen it be awesome

just a big black hole

cause we are space type game

[mortal bough]

So where can we go to see the transaction when sending fuel from our plot to our passport? Thank you for delivering on this promised feature.

[foggy sage]

a big black hole us land owners can just throw anything we want into there

[lavish light]

Can you send fuel direct to another player?

[foggy sage]

no u can not

gotta sell it then send the eth

[lavish light]

Except selling gives way less than the price necessary to buy.

[grand smelt]

Hey somebody knows where I can find my blueprints? I looked in my profile But are not there. Thanks!

[sudden zinc]

Thanks, it’s automatically there my fuel from my plots? Or first to send them elsewhere? Thanks 🙏

[radiant sky]

if you want to send fuel from one of your plots to your OW Ranger, you have to send it from your plot.
check pinned messages in this channel

[radiant sky]

you can't mint your blueprints yet.

[versed stag]

Hi, thank you for the fuel transfer feature, I just tested now and worked so well
So happy to be able to use my lands to help me in overworld

[rotund reef]

Can anyone tell me what this sentence means from the patch notes?
"Dominant Affinity now adheres to the table below based on the Region of the land plot, this now acts as the weights for Overworld as well upon release of all regions."

Are they saying there's some connection to the OW now? How?

[foggy sage]

look at what i get when i sell vs what you get when u buy

[thorny crater]

based on region determine what mons your find when scanning. aka more likely to get mon X in region X

I think they know. All my t1 lands now have most 150% eff. when just yesteday they were between 138-141%

[rotund reef]

Right, but it's always been that way. Really has nothing to do with the OW game

[thorny crater]

I couldnt tell

what land do i have? hint its not abysall

[sleek rose]

I just lost a ton of progress when I restarted the game

[last tiger]

image its frozen for me

[sleek rose]

Yeah, no. The game is saving hardly anything I do right now. Known issue?

[sudden zinc]

Thanks… The video does not work…🫣

[last tiger]

we should have more space now to do other stratageis

[last tiger]

if we send some fuel you will get a cut on that or u get the thing?

[tribal zealot]

[ionic wharf]

My land doesn't load after this update, stuck in the Loading Plot... the music starts but nothing happens. Also the background image while loading is stretched out.

[thorny crater]

OH SNAP!

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

About to spend hours in this hurricane moving things around, taking away power stations, etc

Only down side is if the ratios change again lol

[kind wave]

Anyone else getting this graphical warping on loading menus after the IZ update?

[tranquil sparrow]

yeah, so hilarious

[barren turtle]

The game takes a pinch of profits.

[radiant sky]

Works fine for me.
But it's basically clickyour fuel storage bar AT the very top right and Click send

[radiant sky]

You get what you send

[lavish light]

It's unplayable right now. Session keeps expiring and now it wants me to log in to Passport and I've done so repeatedly with no effect . . .

[foggy sage]

they really should make it where i can convert my fuel to whatever resource and then bridge it into the game

so like right here ask what u wanna send and ask what u wanna receive in game

dont be fooled by those prices either because idk where its getting those numbers from and i know they are not accurate not even close

i do know those prices are if i sold the fuel for its max price

which every one knows would never sell

[barren turtle]

Right!!!? 😂😂😂😂

[rain thicket]

Does this feature work from iOS yet? It’s not working on my iPhone.

[atomic cove]

it's the same logic as to getting a 'bonus' from the maximum possible price 🤣

[lavish light]

Restarted. Now I'm getting "Error loading land plots"

Is anyone else having it work right now?

[foggy sage]

right lol

[misty rock]

The Fuel Transfer from Zero to Overworld is 1:1 ratio.

So pathetic. Can they offer 1:20 like they way DAO Fuel Emission. Give some value to owning land please

[atomic cove]

why is it pathetic?

[barren turtle]

This should help a lot with the market value of fuel

[foggy sage]

price of fuel is already healing

[misty rock]

So little. Worth around $0.05 max

[foggy sage]

the DAO doesnt generate any fuel right right players convert and bridge it from their land

[atomic cove]

well maybe if we revert the fuel production nerf it wouldn't be so bad

[foggy sage]

the value of you have as a land owner is having access to this channel

[mortal smelt]

What is the point of doing paths if it won't affect the Fuel Extractors???

[radiant sky]

Everybody has access to this channel

[mortal smelt]

Time to shelve the game till it gets better, gl everyone

[misty rock]

True.. but they are not giving us the perks. If they revert fuel product to higher qty. people will choose to sell. If they give the land owner extra 1:20 for transferring the fuel for their own use. Then people who play overworld would rather buy a land farm some fuel to supplement their play.

1:20 fuel please

[atomic cove]

but then no one would sell if that was so...

everyone would want to transfer to the OW for the 20x bonus

[misty rock]

Yes so good for the fuel price.

[atomic cove]

it's not lol

we want fuel to be cheap

not expensive

[empty path]

I would sell, I don't play OW 🙂

[atomic cove]

maybe you hire some scholar to play for you

it's a 20x bonus

[misty rock]

Yes owning land will be a perk. Then land price will appricate

[atomic cove]

I'm sorry but I don't think it's a good idea. 1:1 is the way to go.

[misty rock]

1:20 give land value

[atomic cove]

you give land value through other stuff. Training grounds etc

[last tiger]

u sure maybe now less fuel will be purchase cuz we can use our own fuel and not buying idk

[last tiger]

its fine like this at least u dont receive cuts

[thorny crater]

for a t3 my L6 at 144% gives me this:

so i guess that lower % is for t1s only i think...

[barren turtle]

150 fuel from pumps, + maybe 20 more from converters.

[dusk crest]

What's the simplist way to tell if I'm using my paid plot vs a free one? I was under the assumption I've been using my paid plot this whole time but I just got the free plot warning with the update

[barren barn]

Two research center going to stage 5! 168 hours

[last tiger]

i think they are testing to see what it works better for the ecosystem

[barren turtle]

That’s not passive generation

[stray citrus]

We're just ignoring the fact T1 plots are now free to play "practice plots" ????

[last tiger]

i need to test this cuz now u can maybe cut some powerstions

[thorny crater]

ah true my bad lol

[thorny crater]

huh? you cant send fuel from f2p plots

[stray citrus]

T1 is definitely NOT free to play, I payed over $600 on this plot during land pre-sale.

[thorny crater]

ah i dont know what these words mean then. ny b

[small sundial]

The free plots was unique. 3 site of element and 3 site of fuel.

[small sundial]

T1 plot is 3 site of element and 1 site of fuel

Hahahah 😂
Perfect meme

[stray citrus]

Free to play (FTP) is no money down, no money spent to play the game. Why is my payed land a free plot now!?? THIS IS A SCAM

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[lavish light]

You likely haven't connected your land properly.

[winter ivy]

we need to give free fuel for free to play plots

let people taste the game

[lavish light]

Is the game totally screwed up for anyone else right now?

Constantly requiring log-in; taking forever to load plots,; etc.

[nimble lichen]

it’s good on iOS

[lavish light]

Huh. I'm on Windows but this all seems like a server issue, not a client issue

[radiant sky]

What Version are you playing on iOS?

[nimble lichen]

the new version 1.10 is good on iOS, on Android they are having issues

stretched bground images, slow loading

[radiant sky]

You could Update it as usual via Appstore?
Asking for a friend who wasn't able to update

[nimble lichen]

yeah, updated fine

[lone coyote]

on my desktop im told i need to download the latest version but just takes me to a blank google page. anyone have the link?

[radiant sky]

You should be able to Update it via epic Games launcher.
You might have switched of Auto-Update there

[barren turtle]

I love this update!!

[uneven pulsar]

max 5 lan for searching?

[wispy geyser]

Hey! , thanks for fixing the problem with the paths, now the game works perfectly 😄

[hardy brook]

My first BP! 🥳

[next juniper]

Blueprints are pretty rare. I’ve only gotten 4. Seems like biodata is just as rare now too

[scenic sky]

lol, can't even load my plots on PC, just keeps kicking me back to plot selection

haven't logged into zero in weeks now

lovely

[thorny crater]

BEST FEELING EVER!

[thorny crater]

I had to update mine after that it worked fine. But at first mine did the same

[thorny crater]

I disagree with this bc stage 0 is already a thing. BUT I would like players to be able to catch the ghost mons. They won’t be NFTs, can’t be used in competitive aspect. But they can help you progress the story, fight in paid stages, and give you the “taste” of the real thing

[scenic sky]

the first thing it did was update

[uneven pulsar]

guys max 5 lab on land?

[hushed dagger]

Iphone IOS has not recieved the Zero Update yet?

ios iphone has not yet approved the update or it has not been rolled out to IOS yet. seems like only android and PC got the update.

nevermind i forget ios doesnt show update until you open the app in app store

[pearl marten]

Yes

[thorny crater]

Ah dang sorry. I was hopping that was it, cause I didn’t update lol

[uneven pulsar]

and how much fuel convector better build?

i have 6

its good or i can more?

[barren turtle]

No clue…. I only have T2’s

[balmy tulip]

can we use ressources from illuvium zero in overworld if we dont have nft plot ?

[fallow lily]

Whoa nice update!

They also give dollar value to the fuel, is it accurate?

[hushed dagger]

no only landowners can do this.

[keen quail]

It's on price without bonus

I keep having the login issue after update, patch says it's bugfixed. Anyone else solved this?

[ionic wharf]

Same for me here

[hushed dagger]

i love how 10 minutes after i fixed this BUG that was affecting several players maybe more. and shared info and showed steps on how to fix the Land. i love how 10 minutes after players were gathering for my FIX and fixing their broken lands on their own after waiting for over a month and heard absolutely nothing from the team. then one of the community members finds a fix and solution and then, sure enough Rich shares the announcement and they push the update literally 30 min after i fixed the bug.

just thought that was weird. like they had the update ready this entire time but they didnt want to release it or announce it.

until the community showed signs that we didnt need them.

just me with my paranoid thoughts.

thought it was very interesting.

not a peep for months, no one knew when update was coming we all only knew there was going to be one but no clue when. and then instantly like to purposely steal my thunder for helping possibly dozens of players fix their broken lands on thier own. they make announcement

just sketchy and sus like they had the update ready the entire time but only released it because of my help and how tired the community grew with the Dev team. it was pretty obvious and apparent how upset everyone was.

so i think i helped them push this update 10 min after Solution and fix was published and garnered attention.... ❤️😂

my fix announcement and many players excited to fix their land finally. and then 2 hours later update gets dropped.

coincidence?

i felt so cool too. i helped some players having the same issue and i felt really good about being the one who saved the day 😂😂

[rugged tiger]

the update is in app store, but it wont work any longer, stuck at loading the plot for me

[rugged tiger]

same here, just on iOS, working on macOS at least

[hushed dagger]

hmm maybe reboot device?

[rugged tiger]

good idea but i heavily doubt this will make any difference

[hushed dagger]

well i only say that because my iphone zero app took a few seconds longer than usual to load the land and when it did it loaded the screen in parts like tiles. so maybe the patch isn't flexible for all devices

[radiant sky]

that are some pretty wild thoughts 😄

[agile sigil]

How do i claim my fuel on my lands to overworld?

[hushed dagger]

what device are you using?

[hushed dagger]

i'm a pretty wild man 😂😂

[rugged tiger]

no it didnt.
iPhone ofc

[tranquil sparrow]

Click on the elements

[rugged tiger]

i was logged into the plot 10mins ago, with old version. maybe it has to sort itself again now, well see

[agile sigil]

where?

[agile sigil]

on illuvidex?

[rugged tiger]

in game ofc

[lone coyote]

Thanks! This is what I needed

[hushed dagger]

i am using iphone as well but i have the beta version developer ios

[agile sigil]

illuvium zero?

[tranquil sparrow]

Yes

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[radiant sky]

there's a video pinned in this chat on how to send fuel.

[hushed dagger]

try my fix from last night. the fix that does work the fix that was shared an hour before update announcement. #1268088574834905210 message

just log in using PC and give the land at least 10 minutes minimum to fully load the land and UI then you should be ok to delete paths

they rushed the update 🤦‍♂️

[hushed dagger]

just tap on fuels in game to right corner and there's a new transfer fuel button

for anyone who still cant load the land after updating. try using PC to login to Zero and walk away from PC for about 10-15 minutes tops and it should have UI and land loaded finally. then just delete paths one by one. for those who still cant load land with new update

[open stratus]

BUT then you cannot sell once you transfer it, correct?

[rotund forum]

You can’t do both I assume 😅

You either sell or get high on your own supply

[bold vapor]

I have the same problem for 1 month and my T3 plot is not full of path... Someone can tell me what to do please? (I already tried uninstall and reinstall the app on PC and iOS)

[silk parrot]

Every couple of changes ( once you put roads in ) the game bogs down and will require reloads

[hushed dagger]

correct

[hushed dagger]

so theres an issue with the paths in ZERO. try not to encircle buildings with paths and connect them all. try instead to make a single path that touches all the buildings. thats all u have to do with paths to get the boost you don't need to make streets and crossroads

like this.

they fixed the "loading times" thats all. so if you still have these parkinglot paths on the land it will still bogg down the game and maybstill freeze and bug out

#1268088574834905210 message its in the patch notes too. they only fixed the loading times

[lyric lodge]

is it even worth using paths compared to the space you lose?

[hushed dagger]

they didnt fix the bug, and i think the bug is the plants

[silk parrot]

yep I dont encircle buildings 🙂 Thanks for the reply

[hushed dagger]

i have yet to see a real beneficial boost when using paths. so they may not even be needed

[silk parrot]

could be... also I notice moving buildings with " efficiency " toggle on will bog it down faster

[silk parrot]

was thinking same

[round harbor]

Did they reduce passive generation of fuel converters with the patch? I am pretty sure my level 6 converters generate even less fuel now.

Edit: they also changed the time from 288h to 144h.

[hushed dagger]

they upped it for me. i took screenshots of passive before and after update

[radiant sky]

i have 19% path bonus, and space left because limited to 202 structures.
so i guess it is worth it compared to the space they take 🙂

[hushed dagger]

i think surrounding buildings maybe lowered it. try rearranging to get the same efficiency score as before 🤷‍♂️

[lyric lodge]

really, so the cities will look so ugly with just power factories, why did they make it yo hafe to use so many ?

are they going to change this ?

[lyric lodge]

ah so 202 the most, what leel does nexus go too ?

[radiant sky]

yes.
lvl 9 is max nexus level

[hushed dagger]

not sure. if many players are still experiencing issues or even worse issues they may fix the paths or plants or whatever is causing it. but for now all that was fixed related to the bug was loading times.

[lyric lodge]

are tey going to change the power station issue, cities look ily

ugly

[lyric lodge]

what are you getting in dollars for maxed our T2 ? daily ?

[hushed dagger]

can you share screenshot of boosted productivity of converters and passives with 19% path bonus

[radiant sky]

there was already a change in this latest patch.
i don't know what else they have in mind if it comes to efficiency.

[lyric lodge]

yes please

[lyric lodge]

so you need less power statons ?

[hushed dagger]

must be a T4 plot because i cant put that many paths for a 19% boost max i get so far in development is 4% boost

[lyric lodge]

yes please @radiant sky

ah it might be

he has a t4

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/mmm-no-cartman-south-park-no-way-not-happening-gif-20334245

[hushed dagger]

yea those lands already come prebuilt with these benefits us lower tier land holders wont ever see a 19% boost. right?

[hushed dagger]

what i mean is im pretty sure only the T3-T4 lands can have that much space and paths

[radiant sky]

yes, but not many.
check patchnotes in #📣〕announcements

[hushed dagger]

The game is probably using a universal system for all tier lands which is probably causing this problem for tier one and tier 2 lands since tier 4 lands are massive and then you got these mega lands so that's probably what's going on

I think every tier land should have their own system tier one land buildings shouldn't produce the same as a tier 4 land buildings

T4 lands is a T1 land with so much more space and room for more

[radiant sky]

i'm not on the high end level on my low tiers, but why wouldn't they be able to get 20% path bonus if nexus maxed out?

[hushed dagger]

so maybe the bug and issues come from the game trying to fit T4 stuff in a small T1 land

[hushed dagger]

i'm not sure about this i'm just trying to figure out how the update didnt fix the bug for some players

[radiant sky]

it's 2 different bugs as far as i know

[hushed dagger]

can you share screenshot please. i would reall like to know how to make proper paths. game doesnt really guide us on paths the instructional isnt helpful

[vocal pasture]

You have to go to app store and click "update"

[radiant sky]

pretty straight forward
for each 10 buildings you connect to each other with paths you get 1% bonus.

[hushed dagger]

iphone does this now where u have to open app in app store to see an update button appear

[hushed dagger]

ok i didnt know this

wait

[vocal pasture]

Yes, it doest update automatically....you have to go to appstore, select illuvium zero and update

[spiral ravine]

The game is not saving my changes today, is it normal?

[hushed dagger]

if that is true then how do i have 4% and 32 buildings?

[lyric lodge]

can you send a screenshot

[vocal pasture]

whats your nexus lvl?

[hushed dagger]

yes i agree. just saying that before ios iphone would let you turn on automatic app updates. but i cant find that in settings anymore

[hushed dagger]

4 or 5 lol

[spiral ravine]

The game is not saving my changes today, is it normal?

[vocal pasture]

oh yes

[vocal pasture]

I think that must be the cap for path % 😛

[radiant sky]

if i remember right you get 1% with the first building, might be this...

[hushed dagger]

OK so path percentage is tied to Nexus level I didn't notice

[spiral ravine]

The game is not saving my changes today, is it normal?

[hushed dagger]

What do you mean not saving changes?

[steep perch]

Same here. Started after the update. Free land here

At least not on the smartphone

[spiral ravine]

i do things updates,build power station etc...i close the app when i open i have to do it again

[radiant sky]

just indirectly... nexus level don't grant you bonus % but increases your structure limit.

[spiral ravine]

yeah after this update

[hushed dagger]

Very strange try uninstalling the game from the device reboot the device and then reinstall the game

[spiral ravine]

if there is any programmer here that can read this message can help me? because i don't have time to waste to be honet

[steep perch]

You enter, take some action (like extract something, build new thing), close the game. When u open it again it will load from the previous stat, before u have extracted the element or made the command of the new building

[hushed dagger]

What device are you using? Have you tried deleting the app and then re-downloading it

[spiral ravine]

exactly the same

[radiant sky]

please report it ingame with the bug report 🙂

[spiral ravine]

i am using pc and app for smartphone

[radiant sky]

@verbal igloo

[hushed dagger]

Sounds like something completely unrelated something new possibly I would report it and share it with that team

[spiral ravine]

where is this section?

[lyric lodge]

what tier ?

[hushed dagger]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1108308385138479124

[radiant sky]

click the 3 bars at the very top left
then you will have a button "report issue"

[hushed dagger]

they replied to me under 24 hours for reporting issue inside game.

[hushed dagger]

there is a manual save button inside of the game but you have to use the paths try editing a path and then clicking on save path maybe it will act as a manual save for the land

[solar swallow]

Blueprints show off

🤪

[hushed dagger]

can you check and see if pressing the save button does fix it or does nothing to save land.

[lyric lodge]

I dont understand paths,I have them around by buildsings but ony gettting 10 percent, why is that ?

Are there any videos on it ?

[radiant sky]

• roughly every 10 buildings you connect with paths you get 1% additional bonus.
• no need to surround buildings, connecting them is sufficient.
• Path bonus reduces the time needed for activities

[spiral ravine]

done thanks

[radiant sky]

i thank you mate 🙂

[vocal pasture]

Even 20% its s stretch to achieve 🙂

the evergrowing weed plants make it a pain 😛

[hushed dagger]

can u even fit 102 buildings on T1 land? i have about 30 buildings and land is half full already

screenshot or misinforation. straight up

[vocal pasture]

In T1 is easier....just spam power stations 😛

in T4 is painfull because of the element sites, fuel sites, converters etc

[hushed dagger]

i see storage is full and fuel is low

is T1 land the same size as t4? i dont get it

[vocal pasture]

What is feel is painful in T2 is the storage thing....you dump a buck on fuel to upgrade two or three of them, or just spam 5-6 of each element 😐

[hushed dagger]

share this screen

[radiant sky]

yes it's the same size

[hushed dagger]

see did NOT know this

[vocal pasture]

yes the size is the same

[hushed dagger]

obviously but looks maxed already

how much time you spending reinvesting 90% of fuel?

share you screenshot showing filter lands. to show Tier

[vocal pasture]

T4 just has a lot more sites, so it takes more picky balance

[hushed dagger]

If I don't understand the difference I would come on here in the IlluviumZero channel and ask questions just like I did

[vocal pasture]

even T2s are a pain with fuel upgrades....T1 I cant even imagine 😛

[hushed dagger]

prove to me that its a T1 land or i wont believe your input. i just want to see it myself and not read it in words

[vocal pasture]

Basically T1 and even T2 have lower fuel production....so it quite tough to stack fuel to upgrade storage and element sites for instance

[hushed dagger]

makes lots of sense

ok so I'll chalk it up as you're lying and just making shit up

moving on now

I'm out here trying to help people

Don't hate on me

[vocal pasture]

for instance you need quite some fuel to upgrade lvl6-7-8 element storages....but you need storage to have the amount needed to upgrade fuel extractors....and so on

[hushed dagger]

yea its a imploding loop i noticed not a healthy loop

[vocal pasture]

its healthy, but takes a lot of time and patience 😉

[radiant sky]

lets keep it respectful in here 🙂

[hushed dagger]

the loop in illuvium should be pretty damn good but its not

[vocal pasture]

it was before the nerf tbh....but nerfs happen 😛

even so, I am enjoying my T2

[hushed dagger]

im just trying to understand the paths. seeing that my land was bugged and broke over path usage (fixed it myself with no help from the update) and im jjst here seeing if anyone may still need help. some might be able to use my fix and my guidance to repair their games or lands. and i felt pretty good about it. thats all im trying to do. is aid and help the community ❤️

[vocal pasture]

Just dont know how to make room for the upcoming gym ehehhe 😛

[hushed dagger]

true lol completely flew over my head. sorry

but the game doesn't instruct us on how to properly use paths to the point that lands were breaking

[pearl marten]

All land tiers have the same size

One can argue that a t1 has more space than a t4 just because on a t4 you have loads more resource spots and cannot freely build over them

[vocal pasture]

What I know regarding paths ( correct me if im wrong). They are capped by nexus lvl and number of buildings (which in turn are capped by the nexus lvl). You get roughly 1% per 10 buildings that a single road touches (all roas must be connected). If you have all the land covered in paths and buildings, weeds cant grown and they bug you when you destroy any building (happened to me)

[tranquil sparrow]

with the new update, less power plant, more space

[vocal pasture]

% bonus works in extraction, upgrading, converting, etc. Its % reduction from the initial time

[hushed dagger]

i think i understand now thank you

[vocal pasture]

is there less needs for power plants?

[strange bone]

How does one mint blueprints found?

[vapid jolt]

Hey - where did you get the 500-750 player figure from?

[tranquil sparrow]

yeaa, more base efficiency

[hushed dagger]

so this part too. % from paths only help with duration of land activities?

[vocal pasture]

yes, everything that has time in it

[pearl marten]

Completely correct.. i would add the fact that you can get a max of 20% time reduction via paths ( so you need 200+ buildings built and connected to the SAME path)

[hushed dagger]

basically, if I understand this correctly paths only boost and shorten the time it takes harvest? It doesn't boost efficiency or production only time?

then yes that is not needed

they broke the game and so many players lands with a system implementation that only speeds up harvest time

[pearl marten]

Also they shorten scanning and researching time

[hushed dagger]

It is definitely not worth it at all

[hushed dagger]

This is beneficial for sure

The balance is totally off in illuvium zero. it's unfortunate that all of us are suffering because of this one thing.... paths

[vocal pasture]

if you work the land in a daily schedule path bonus isnt that worthwhile yes....but if or when fuel is precious (cof cof) you might do a quick weekly 4am pick and restart to work that 20hour thing

[pearl marten]

Especially when trying to upgrade a scanner/lab to the final tier and it takes 5+ days i think... a 15% time reduction is considerable

[hushed dagger]

Five days reduced by 15% is what? Is it really that worth it

[lyric lodge]

anyone else having issues changing between plots ?

[pearl marten]

It's 18 hrs...i think it's worth it

[hushed dagger]

so you save 20 hours with max path boosts on scanner? 4.1 days instead of 5?

I think illuvium zero can do without paths

[vocal pasture]

if you try a weekly schedule....you pick it at 21h, 16h30, 12h, 7h30....and if you reaaalll want that fuel 3am, then 23h30 and so on 😛

[hushed dagger]

on the contrary I believe there's 100 of players who are suffering because of the path and the fatal bug and this update

[pearl marten]

And i can't remember exactly but i think it takes more than 5 days

[vocal pasture]

when fuel is at 1€ per unit it will be worthwhile 🙂

im an optimist :p

[hushed dagger]

yea thats playing 3 times a day?

[pearl marten]

God helps!

[lyric lodge]

no one will play then lol

[hushed dagger]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1268088574834905210 these are the players who happened to find this channel. imagine the players who dont even know

[vocal pasture]

never underestimate the power of hope :p

0,1€ then....i'd be happy

[lyric lodge]

anyone else having issues changing between plots ?

[hushed dagger]

and people still having issues.

[lyric lodge]

how much is that a day for a T2 in dolars ?

[vocal pasture]

I notice it takes a bit more to load tbh...

[hushed dagger]

and it all seems connected to paths. for a weak insufficient boost

[vocal pasture]

for a T2 I dunno

[hushed dagger]

🤷‍♂️ get rid of paths and boosts and find another way to shorten time and give boosts. shits broken

[lyric lodge]

T1?

[vocal pasture]

it was just a random optimistic figure

[strange bone]

Do people know how to mint blueprints? Or where I can find instructions? I googled and found an old video for Alpha, but that method doesn't seem to work now

[hushed dagger]

sorry a dozen

[vocal pasture]

T4 at 1€/unit it would give 1500€..so 1600usd$....so nevermind lol. Missed some zeros 😛

[hushed dagger]

why you keep trying to find a flaw in what im saying? you keep trying to shut me down and what? get rid of me? @south mural just agree to disagree little buddy and take care

i dont see you out here helping others the way i did. you're just bragging and felxing with your busy land over there 😂 its cool man we get it. you played longer than me. im only one month in and helping fix the game no biggie

[radiant sky]

20% more output is not weak at all

it's pretty big actually

[hushed dagger]

an outsider came in used lootrush to rent and obtain a T1 land. played for 1 month and helped fix a fatal bug.

[hushed dagger]

20% more output is only true if it mined automatically without us touching the button but you're never gonna remember to touch the button so it might not be 20% boost since paths only reduced time not actually give you more of anything the only way it gives you more of anything is by being able to harvest more frequently with the reduced time and that's only if you remember to tap the harvests and if you'd forget then there's no path bonus

thats all im saying.

i'm not saying it's not true and it doesn't work or boost

[radiant sky]

lol yea...
if you forget to harvest your stuff you don't earn anything.

[hushed dagger]

thank you.

[vocal pasture]

It depends on your effort....if you wake up at 4am to reset the timers once in 4-5 days.... 😛 no pain no gain

[strange bone]

@radiant sky hey man, any idea where I can get info on minting blueprints. Old alpha video method doesn't seem to work

[radiant sky]

blueprints can't be minted yet

minting feature is not live yet

[hushed dagger]

yeah I'm pretty much in the boat of people that will never do this or may try and fail and give up eventually.

[strange bone]

Ah, makes sense why I can't figure it out then, lol. Thank you sir

[hushed dagger]

I don't like time speed ups so I doubt I will use this since I'm not glued in addicted to my cell phone or this game I don't see myself needing to speed up time

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[vocal pasture]

depends on the value perceived...hence my example of the 1€/fuel 😉 right now its not worthwhile but....it depends on the user

[hushed dagger]

thank you. this part too

if fuel had value over 1cent i may consider path boosts and become addicted to fuel farming but for now im ok with overworld fuel transfer

[vocal pasture]

yep....im doing the same 😉

thats why I think this send to OW feature will greatly help the economy tbh

most landowners become players/users/consumers instead of just producers

[hushed dagger]

And to be honest when they announced that fuel transfer from IlluviumZero to overworld was in the pipeline that's when I decided to find a land for rent to try it out and here I am a month later lol

[hushed dagger]

I agree

It's been feeling like a money grab this whole time up until now

so hopefully and fingers crossed this helps us all

[vocal pasture]

Not really, we could sell at market and buy back at the same value, roughly, but it was a pain and discouraging

[vocal pasture]

it will 🙂

Illuvium is just in the beginning....all this FUD might in the end help to build a better game

[fallow lily]

Its funny though, it could present a new issue

However, I am doubtful

But, the whole narrative that Whales have the upper hand, is now even more true 😄

infinite Tier 3 runs...

[vocal pasture]

infinite?

[hushed dagger]

in web3 gaming all whales have the upper hand. just by technicalities

[fallow lily]

As long as you have tier 2+ land, you can probably fund your overworld runs indefinitely

[pearl marten]

Yes.. sometimes it just freezes on the loading screen

[radiant sky]

infinite is such a big number 😄

[vocal pasture]

once per day on a T4....that costed 8000 bucks....

doesnt seem like a great bargain lol

[hushed dagger]

try giving plenty of time to load (10 minutes) and fix what's causing the issue (too many paths) plenty of time

[vocal pasture]

not complaining, but just stating that is far far away from "infinite"....

[fallow lily]

Maybe you're right, but infinite Tier 1 runs?

lol, regardless, I say this all in jest. However, I do truly think these latest changes help more than hurt

[hushed dagger]

why spend 8,000$ on a land at launch when there was barely any testing and before the game even went public? do your own research and dont invest that much in a beta

[fallow lily]

Eager to see where the fuel prices go from here

[hushed dagger]

i get frustrated when the OG's from three years ago jump on here to say that their land cost them thousands of dollars in the very beginning and I'm just here scratching my head trying to figure out why anyone in the world would do that to a brand new project

[vocal pasture]

its a risk....it might or might now pay 🙂

[pearl marten]

I never had that issue.. it's happening from the last update but don't think it's because path... i have plots with almost no path

[vocal pasture]

degen spirit and a bit of lunacy tbh 😛

[hushed dagger]

hmm. could be device related. try a different device

[fallow lily]

I do agree, but in hindsight, the crypto market from a macro perspective at that time, looked like it was going up forever, though most experienced investors know better. Not everyone is a market guru

[radiant sky]

if something like that frustrates you already, you might better stay away from web3 and discords or learn to meditate 😄

[pearl marten]

Yep .. mobile..i already reported this ti Theodor and they re on it as several more people experienced the same

[hushed dagger]

i guess.
reminds me of me dropping $5000 on bitcoin when it had already shot up to $64,000 a share thinking it was gonna shoot to the moon but it crashed down to $17,000 a share before shooting back up to where it's at now in the same range.

[vocal pasture]

lol....I honestly have to congratulate you mods for the patience....taking bullets from everywhere the last weeks....you're zen masters 😛

[fallow lily]

I took the approach of a calculated entry. Got into land in 2022, and then again a bit after that with my first tier 2 land purchase (for ~$800)

[hushed dagger]

is there any calculation that may show the amount of years it will take to see ROI for your case?

[fallow lily]

That is a painful lesson.

What is interesting about investing though, is that although being patient and calculative is great, waiting too long can be more costly than the alternative.

I will give you my story. I hesitate to buy bitcoin at $3k. However, I caved into my fear, and did it anyway

Had I "calculated" any longer, I'd be kicking myself 😄

[vocal pasture]

illuvium is my only crazy crypto bet tbh....others 70% bitcoin, 10%eth, 10%solana, 5% ilv and the rest alts

[mortal mural]

is podarium actually spawning more trees? i kinda regret building it if so. its getting annoyng lol

[fallow lily]

I didn't do any yet, but I def will

[ancient perch]

Anyone else having issues with the free to play message popping up for their T2 land?

[fallow lily]

I do firmly agree though, that aping into an investment at its start is kinda crazy

could pay off, but its 100% gambling

[vocal pasture]

I heard in 2014 about bitcoin and dismissed as nerdy internet magic money....

[hushed dagger]

i agree. i had about $500 in bitcoin when BTC was about 3k and then one day i had like 15,000 and withdrew it. and tried to add 5k and that 5 k still sitting there with almost a 90% loss

😂

damn gamestop

outta nowhere

[vocal pasture]

only to ape in 2021 after musk drawed attention to it

[fallow lily]

Oh I remember the gamestop fiasco

[vocal pasture]

buy high sell low!

[fallow lily]

I logged into Reddit wallstreet bets page daily

lol

Trying to stay in the loop

[hushed dagger]

lol i feel like it was around gamestop fiasco that bitcoin shot to 60k from 4K practically overnight

[fallow lily]

Oh Elon... 😄

[radiant sky]

i wasn't able to see any difference when trying it out for a couple of days.
also all other podarium features are not implemented yet, so i guess also the plant spawn increase doesn't work for now.
but that's just me trying to give info with not very reliable empiric data

[vocal pasture]

Well....if not for him I'd probably be all fiat 😛

[fallow lily]

Fair point, he does get some credit I guess 😄

[hushed dagger]

elon mention TON also recently so i got ton minning over on TG 😂

[vocal pasture]

I though...."well the man has to know something if he endorses this thing....let me know more about it...." and here I am 3 years after

poorer, but firmly believer

lol

[fallow lily]

well regardless of Elon, congrats on taking that chance

If there is any crypto I truly believe in (to the bone), its BTC

[hushed dagger]

The saddest part that no one will ever believe is that in like 2009 I was a teenager and I had a old Windows computer my mom had that I turned into a Bitcoin Miner so somewhere in the landfill or somewhere out there in the world is that hard drive I remember it had like two or three bitcoin after using it to mine for like three years before I moved onto other stuff and left it in a storage unit. I heard about bitcoin on some weird obscure Internet forrum

[vocal pasture]

Yes, I agree with you.

[vocal pasture]

you're that guy from the news? 😛

[fallow lily]

Oh man, I kind of feel like we need to go dumpster diving... immediately 😄

[radiant sky]

please stay on topic here.
or use #🏃〕off-topic or if it gets degen use #💰〕token

[fallow lily]

Notice I said "we" 😄

[vocal pasture]

you're right.... 😛 sorry about that...got carried away eehehe

[hushed dagger]

top third biggest city in the USA. these landfills are massive but I honestly thought about it 😂😂😂

[lavish light]

Yeah, I'm still having the same problem. I'm checking in every hour or so but it's unplayable for me currently since I have a bunch of plots that I am constantly switching between.

[mortal mural]

tree are annoying nonetheless unless i short on elements lol

[hushed dagger]

i Forget this is not general chat my bad

[vocal pasture]

well...dinner time 🙂 stay cool fellas

[radiant sky]

well, when podarium features are live, you can grow mutated plants, granting you dye's you can sell or use yourself for skin creation.

[mortal mural]

i dont like the suffering but i hate my builders being idle even more lol

[hushed dagger]

too many lands could be Cache issue. ios or android? if android clear app cache for zero in settings if on iphone delete app restart phone and reinstall (this is how to clear wipe cache on ios)

[stable basin]

When I am playing I do not have the "send fuel" as showen in this screenshot from the pinned comments. Is this because I'm on mobile or is ther another reason I can not send fuel?

I want to use the fuel I've accumulated to play Overworld

[hushed dagger]

I was wondering what that thing does

I was like why would I want a building that makes more plans when my land is full of plants already, but it makes now

[radiant sky]

restarting the game fixed it for me, just had it twice before that action.

have you tried rebooting your device?

[atomic cove]

have you updated to the latest version?

[lavish light]

Windows. And 8 lands shouldn't be too many.

[silver plover]

When you send fuel to overworld is it 1 to 1 or does it multiply?

[lavish light]

Yup. I rebooted my whole Windows machine.. No joy.

[radiant sky]

it's 1:1

[silver plover]

Gross

[hushed dagger]

windows may have a cache issue as well. you will need to locate Illuviumzero cache folder and delete it

[hushed dagger]

it may help.

[radiant sky]

that's unfortunate.
make sure to report it ingame, seems others are effected aswell

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-stirring-staring-wtf-wut-gif-25440654

[hushed dagger]

rebooting windows doesnt clear cache. pc's have internal batteries to keep cache and other small things working when reboot like clock and time

clearing/deleting the cache folder on windows may help guys. deleting the cache on android setting for zero app may help. and uninstalling and reinstalling after reboot may help for ios users. the app/game itself does not have a clear cache button

these nfts and other assets have long stringed meta data

[radiant sky]

shutting down doesn't, but restarting the windows system should clear most stuff which could affect the experience.

[hushed dagger]

agree. also an outdated cache folder may have inconsistencies that cause more slow down and problems

clearing cache after updates helps keep the PC or device memory free of junk files that the game no longer uses after updates

most web3 games have memory issue. amazon servers arent great so game needs device resources. i could be weong about this game but most use Amazon for hosting

[little moon]

When can we expect transferring fuel between our lands? Are there any plans for that at all?

[hushed dagger]

its live buddy 🙂

update your app

[hushed dagger]

oh nevermind this is a totally different question

but i thought all lands shared the same fuels and coins, no?

[little moon]

Nope. Only coins

[radiant sky]

haven't heared news on that front for ages.

[silk parrot]

is it a paid land or a free land? Free land cant use fuel in game

[little moon]

Paid

[hushed dagger]

he is asking about using fuel from one land in zero and transfering it to his other land in zero. i dont think this has been talked about. if so i missed the memo

[little moon]

Have only Hyperion on my T1. Would have been nice if I could transfer the other 2 fuels required for upgrades from my T2.

[lavish light]

Which cache folder? Do you need to do anything other than empty the folder?

Also, is there some way to force Epic to ensure that you have the latest version?

[hushed dagger]

epic updates automatically.

https://youtube.com/shorts/GUuQllbZ1fE?si=s3ADUsp9fai0X_Rw

once you uninstall zero and after you locate and find the cache folder look for **Illuvium Zero ** folder inside of cache folder and delete that entire folder then empty recycling bin then reboot computer

when you re install zero you will have a clean/wiped cache bank

[turbid storm]

Is 201 the max level for land?

[polar cosmos]

currently yes

[turbid storm]

Oh ok. One more question. If I buy thos land credits to speed things up on land, who get that money? The DAO or Google play store. I want to buy a pack but I'm hoping ilv gets the money

[radiant sky]

I guess Google/Apple get a share of that, but i actually don't know how much. Can investigate after dinner 🙂

[icy thicket]

Makes me nauseous 🤢 😆

[open stratus]

Hey can we fix this

Lol @icy thicket was about to post exactly that !!

It really does make you feel sick though

[icy thicket]

Popped up on 10 things in a row and feeling nauseous now

[lyric lodge]

Doers anyone know how much dollars er day a fully developed T2 land is roughly earning ?

[tranquil sparrow]

Hate to see lvl 201 max
Why not lvl 200 lol

[craggy bison]

not to overworld want to send to my other plot

[craggy bison]

more cents not dollars 😂

[fallow lily]

Time will truly tell

There will be some need to let the market find a settling point within this ecosystem. If you are talking about right now though, yeah... pennies on the dollar

[mortal bough]

50 max fuel from each extractor. T2= x3 fuel sources, 150 per 24 hours.

[fallow lily]

But with all investments, the goal is that growth over time changes that a bit. So it depends on your time tables (sort of, ... possibly)

[plucky venture]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-fangirl-fangirling-excited-happy-gif-5961406

[tight spindle]

Hey guys, how to get 150% on scanners ? I cant get more than 100%

[plucky temple]

100 % is max

[hushed dagger]

did they fix the scanner too? i saw they improved the scanner in patch notes but havent tried it. all i know is when i did my first 3 scans i got no scan results and wasted the fuel. is this what they fixed?