🎮〕illuvium-zero

[sand radish]

how come average & max are so high if all the sells are under 😅

[thorny crater]

that you would need all the data

[sand radish]

directly when you try to sell

[thorny crater]

but you can seel what the fuel is selling for so i guess i just do not understadn what yuour asking maybe

different page that's where land owners set the prices

the ledger shows you what is actually selling id go off that price if your looking for a quick sell

ITs a little confusing but here is a some feed back on it if youd like to know some more deets
#1274644572378501182 message

sorry the vote is in that chat but way down....😅
#1274644572378501182 message

[lapis grove]

update now？ why i cant login in the game?

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-telephone-on-call-gif-15495555

me every IT call

but seriously when i am on desktop and it signs me off i have to quite the game and come back.

iphone and ipad do not do this tho

[fallow lily]

Would you all say Tier 1's are worth it in the long run?

would it be better to get a tier 2 or tier 3 and if so (not considering the initial cost), why would you suggest 2 over 3, or 3 over 2?

[rotund forum]

If you mean financially, if the game doesn´t go bust, which we all hope will never happen, eventually it will be worth it in that sense. And in the meantime you get to play a nice city builder 😜

[fallow lily]

I was asking as the fuel profitability is insanely nonexistent atm

Curious how they will make it any better

[thorny crater]

Increase consumer exp. Aka fun

I ain’t working a 9-5 so I can come home to play a game people can make a roi off me aka farm me

[tardy falcon]

The only way it will get better is if there is liquid inflow from active players buying fuel… and a growing player base.

And yah… one way to do that is create an enjoyable experience for people. Currently that joyful feeling isn’t there yet… or leaderboards and rewards. However with leaderboards that’s still buying players in a way… which is trying to make up for a meh experience.

[thorny crater]

I want to play against my friends in OW so I can send them this when I win as an emote

https://tenor.com/view/lol-get-shit-on-kid-loser-dance-fortnite-season3dance-gif-18611274

[manic ginkgo]

when will we be able to open more than one plot at a time?

[minor hazel]

150% t6 crypton converters' passive says 24/288 hours instead of 36/288 like hyperion/solon...has anyone verified if this is just an unfixed display error or if crypton is the only one that doesn't increase passive production on the last upgrade? trying to decide if I should upgrade or if it's a waste of time

[thorny crater]

I think just make different wallets for each screen you want open. Other than that I have no clue.

Prolly didn’t do this bc of bots

[thorny crater]

Depends on land tier
t3 : (12 +12 * 100%)*150 = 36
The 100% is the bonus a t3 gets.

So formula is
(12+ 12 * tierBonus) * efficiency rate

I think that’s how it’s set up anyway

May be a land mark thing too?

Or a bug lol

[minor hazel]

no, I know hyperions and solon do 36, I was asking if anyone specifically has a crypton that either shows or tangibly produces at the 36 rate

[dry otter]

Don't buy a t1!

[thorny crater]

Ah sorry lol

[open stratus]

T1s are incredibly difficult to play at the moment. But as we've seen things can change in an instant.
I think its well known that they are quite... slow.

[fallow lily]

elaborate? lol

[dry otter]

t2 is now very cheap! With t1 you need months until your harvester runs at max, and then you don't get a s1 run in ow a day!
And it's not funny to play eighter! I have t1 and t2 so i can tell you t1 sucks at the moment!

[strong pewter]

Any estimate for next update?

[thorny crater]

Yeah so i am looking at a problem right now on my t1 i just do not remember having with my t2. and my t2 has 3 Hyperion fuels only.
Goa:l update the quantum building
This t1 needs 2.6 mil silicon, 1.4m carbon, and 80 crypton
the problem the 2.6 mil silicon.
I have 3 storages levels 5,7,6
I could do the lvl 6 for 20 of each Hype and Solon fuel(about 1-2 days waiting time), add 400k which would be enough
or the lvl 7 for for 80 Hype and Solon fuels, adds 1.3 mill storage, but i need to upgrade hydro storage to get the 1.8 mill which ill need 4 Crypton and Solon

I just do not remember having this much issues to think about on a t2. there was a struggle but this alone to fix might take the lowest amount of time between 2 and there days to get.

that said, imo and this is not financial advice, if youre looking for a quick max and less of the above a t2 is the way to go. Its night and day between each additional tier

granted i could opitmize this plot some more but meh

i need a buiilder mode lol

first t2 BP and atlas drone baby

[glad mango]

Yes i need to optimize bad lol

[thorny crater]

mozart styke too

[thorny crater]

i only have 105/152 building lol

i just saw that xD

[glad mango]

Im up to 142

[thorny crater]

noice

[radiant sky]

no, not yet

[open stratus]

Will start my nexus 9 tomorrow

Lfg

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/celebrate-excited-gif-5615373

[shrewd dove]

my fuel never sells on the market, it's been weeks. I've continously created new orders at the current market price (while keeping the others going too) and still nothing sells. Even if I have crypton listed at .0066 and then it goes up to .0068 or .007 and still my fuel at .0006 doesn't sell; how is this possible? is anyone else having trouble selling? I paid extra money in game to buy tokens to get to selling fuel faster and literally none of my fuel will sell, quite frstraing lol

[radiant sky]

prices one sold a few hours ago:
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[rotund forum]

I don´t know why hyperion dropped so much. I mean literally 4 days ago I sold all at 0.00000168 and now at 0.0000015 it doesn´t sell. the upper wall is at 0.00000139

If you want to sell you have to either put that or a little below. Or like me, wait until demand rises (which I think often happens in the weekends)

[open stratus]

Found a t4 plot with no silicon.. wow that's awful

[glad mango]

I thought t4 had all the fuels....guess im wrong

[thorny crater]

yeah i would look at the ledger you can see what things are selling for

[grand silo]

5

[tardy falcon]

Things are stagnating a little
I haven’t been playing ow much either
Need some catalysts for engagement

[thorny crater]

consumer experince is all at this point

i cant say it enough

[exotic scroll]

Probably because close to end of season and so people stop doing ow , waiting for new season.

[stiff talon]

Probably new updates coming for season 2 to reengage people

[noble willow]

I want the co-op version of team hunts etc

[thorny crater]

YES

Share the fuel cost and then split the resources and fight for the eodd number ones

or go all in hell yeah

get like 8 k energyto share

[noble willow]

It's going to be a thing I would assume, just dev time to make it work. I'm happy pottering around in the T0 till fuel is usable from my land, then work my way through higher tiers.
As an older person I've learned patience is better than righteous fury

[tropic monolith]

Why is it so werid that on my upgrade page it says extracts 22 but when I press extract only shows 11?

[minor hazel]

because the **upgrade **page is telling you what you will get after you upgrade...

[tropic monolith]

Isnt that the +4 after upgrade?

[versed vault]

There are zero Illuvium zero milestones

[tropic monolith]

Ohh thank you so much!

[empty path]

Got my first blueprint, how to mint?

[tardy falcon]

not yet... maybe in a month or 2

[empty path]

Ffs

I got cardulox biodata but it’s not showing the image, is this known?

[vivid cipher]

It is

[empty path]

Damn it, that means I’m not the first one finding it 🥲

[vivid cipher]

Haha well I’d found it in testnet version

[empty path]

Gotta focus on fuel for now anyhow

[tardy falcon]

Anyone know why this is paused? Has enough power

Nvm... I thnk it's power even tho it says it has enough

[stoic rapids]

its always power

[stable minnow]

Can you increase the % of a singularity scanner in any way, outside of moving it away from other stuff?

[timber glacier]

no

[empty path]

lol I just noticed I have been scanning on one of my plots without a data bank

gg

[minor hazel]

you can store 5 biodata/bps without a bank so unless you maxed that out too you didn't miss anything aside from some nebulous efficiency increase

[empty path]

Awesome, thanks

[pearl marten]

According to this it should be in 1-3 weeks https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1237926169756696628

[empty path]

That's Kieran time, so 2 months seems accurate

[thin cedar]

Do we know if there is a fix coming soon for plots that you cant load into?

[pearl marten]

That would mean Megacities maybe in Q1 2025

[empty path]

You still have hope for those?

[pearl marten]

silly me right?

[empty path]

No idea, the plots that I play are not a megacity so I haven't been paying attention to it

[tardy falcon]

I only have a fragment of hope because of mega city coming… don’t take that away 🤪

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-gif-18453366

[rotund forum]

yes, it´s power. I had same issue, and did not get it. But increasing power fixed it. Lot of little things the game needs to polish. Especially that sell button and the network error with removing the plants.

[rotund forum]

I made a ticket of it as well, they said they are aware of it.

[rotund forum]

no, the carablue and caradulo are very common ones. But I like them as a skin.

[rotund forum]

I´m not 100% but at launch of open beta they said they opted for release but had to scratch blueprints and megacities which would be added aprox. 3 months after, so november-ish

btw I bought coins in the first few days after release, and I had an issue. I made a ticket, that must be a month or so ago now, and tbh I kind of forgot about it but this morning they were added in the game. So support really is on things, although we get impatient sometimes (a lot of times actually 🙈 ) and it seems nothing happens, but they are working actively.

[empty path]

A month wait is horrible service tho

[real dawn]

whats the benefit of upgrading material labs? the chances dont change, right?

[rotund forum]

if you want to research a T5 you need a L5 biolab.

[real dawn]

Aaah okay, thanks! As I am still upgrading all extractors to the final stage I did not get too many blueprints yet 😄

[empty path]

I need more plots, it's just a few clicks every day now

[fair temple]

Wanna play on mine? XD

[empty path]

Yes

[rotund forum]

I think indeed adding some minigames or stuff to do later on in the game couldn´t hurt.

[empty path]

So what we are saying is, it's not enough work to make money.
It's too easy

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-kek-bttv-twitch-emote-gif-15123134

[rotund forum]

And add a pop up window or something with a wheel of fortune or slotmachine, for the scanner and biolabs results. That will make it a lot more addictive than the mere "no results" message. Maybe an occasional illuvial crossing your land which you can click if you are in time, and get some biodata. Anything would be welcome

[empty path]

I like that spinning wheel idea, you should post it in #1020759212172775464
Can't be that hard to add right

[rotund forum]

well, gamewise it is too little, and moneywise... way too little 😝

[empty path]

True true

I didn't even try to sell yet, started playing late and just upgrading stuff

[rotund forum]

I did yesterday. zero likes so far 🥳

[empty path]

Oh lemme go find it

[rotund forum]

thanks mate

[empty path]

No, thank you. We need more people thinking about these small and easy changes that make the experience of the user better with a minimal of dev time

[rotund forum]

I think I´d rank pretty good on the loser leaderboard, just had another 2 scanner nothings 😩

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/theodoros-gif-18371963

[rotund forum]

ideas born out of frustration 😝

[empty path]

Probably how the fleshlight was invented

[uneven pulsar]

guys should i have a few data bank or need only 1?

[empty path]

You'll need more once it's filled

[uneven pulsar]

when does it filled?

also research labs only 5% max?

[empty path]

Looks like it will also help research if you got more

[uneven pulsar]

yes i see that i asked 5% max or i can imrove it)

[undone phoenix]

I haven't been able to play since yesterday - are they updating somtehing?

[empty path]

I have been playing all day

[uneven pulsar]

not yet waitinf news after 1st season

[undone phoenix]

oh, that's sad

[empty path]

That I have been playing all day is sad?
Or you are sad that you can't play?

[undone phoenix]

both

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[undone phoenix]

mostly me

[empty path]

Oh you fast

[undone phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/spirit-fingers-sparky-polastri-bring-it-on-gif-5983698

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-very-sloth-slow-gif-15401812

[thorny crater]

Can we only build 4 labs as the max count?

[rotund forum]

5

[thorny crater]

Hmmm

[uneven pulsar]

data bank improves %for successed researching ?

or always 5%?

[thorny crater]

Ah I got 5 one was hiding lol

[uneven pulsar]

5 lvl?)

[thorny crater]

Nope. Just more room for biodata and BPs

[uneven pulsar]

thx buddy

so what is better stratagy - find good illuvuium and then reseraching him always?

[thorny crater]

Yeah so scanners scan for biodata
Labs deseará h for facts and bps
Facts help increase the chance of finding a BP for that illuvial, but the % doesn’t change

I am doing this

5 scanners
5 labs
Levels 1,2,3,4,5

Bc of you research a t1 on a lvl 5 lab it will cost a lvl5 lab price with nothing extra

[uneven pulsar]

but if i found this - better 5 labs and serachingonly this illuvium?\

[thorny crater]

Example, 3 is my highest for both scanner and lab right now. WIP.

Lvl1 lab cost 6 of each fuel and lvl 3 cost 12. I rather use 6 for tier 1 research than use 12

I would highly recommend research that one at all times

I have two atlas drone BPs and they are different

One is a Bach and the other a Mozart. AND both are only stage 1

[uneven pulsar]

gotcha

thx for clirification

i think found 4-5 tier iluvium and than use only for them labs

maybe ist wrong(

[thorny crater]

What is the fuel type to upgrade labs again?

All mine are researching so you can’t look

Need to get labs lvl 4,5 and my data bank to 3

I know data bank takes Solon

[rotund forum]

yeah this ocurred to me as well. I hated having them all over the place so now they are in a row surrounded by a ton of powerstations so they keep that 150%. It is a bit of a shame to do it like this but all the more easier.

[uneven pulsar]

oh i am updating too 3 labs and 1 max 5 lvl) in 5 hrs can tall you)

[rotund forum]

that is the first T3+ that I see that has stage 2! Congratz. There is no leaderboard yet on that but I think you are on top 🥳

[thorny crater]

I always forget what needs what and I always have stuff going lol

Hard to plan what I want to do next so I’ll just go idle and collect I guess

Got 30min ish before a research is done anyway so not to long

[rotund forum]

crypton

[rotund forum]

more of a powerstation museum than anything else 🤪

[void raft]

How many plants do I need to remove???
My plot has been full for a while, but now I need to move few of my buildings and everytime I delete some building and make a space 2x2 (I get network error) and a plant appears, I cannot build anything...

[uneven pulsar]

yeap))) irritate )

[mortal smelt]

So how are our 3rd world digital lands coming?

[void raft]

I am on plant number like 15...

[mortal smelt]

T-4 akin to US while T-1 is Somalia

[thorny crater]

Tahnks!

[mortal smelt]

no wonder we need PvP for the pirates to survive

[paper sleet]

Is 12% the max path bonus?

[thorny crater]

same but i have a storage problem....it sucks cause i only need to build storage for a a few more upgrades then i can delete the storage again

i dont like that.

just for scanner and lab only so far.

https://tenor.com/view/jigstack-stak-stak-attack-thunder-stak-make-lambonade-gif-22893662

its resources im talking about

elements* should i say BUT i dont focus my t1s at all lol

just collect fuel and see if i can upgrade one of the 3 builds. Nexus, egeineer, or quantum

[rotund forum]

maybe a little less roads? Or is the 20% that important to you? I think the roads between the powerstations you could remove, it is a bit slower yes, but think that when they release an update you might need those storages again

[thorny crater]

I only have 16% path lol

maybe. after upgrades the only thing i need resources for will be fuel production. so as of right now Im just going to get the storage i need to max everything out. then yeetus deletus haha

[quick garnet]

Hi, can anyone help me? I have a lot of fuel in the illuvidex balance... but how can I use them or sell the fuel in that balance? I can't find any way to use them... thanks

[rotund forum]

I think my max is 14%. But because of that, need the space more than the speed

[thorny crater]

can only sell from land. Your personal fuel is not for sell

[quick garnet]

but i can transfer it on the land?

[thorny crater]

Im going back and forth with my self. For example wiht this 16% it takes 20 hours to scan instead of the 24. whihc is VERY nice for dailies

[thorny crater]

nope

if so i would have just bought the fuel i needed for upgrades

and max my land that way

[quick garnet]

so what's the use? i don't understand what use i can make of it

[thorny crater]

OW runs

[quick garnet]

oh ok

[thorny crater]

LAnd sells fuel, buying in the illudiex has nothing to do with Land

[quick garnet]

i'm playing only illuvium zero

[thorny crater]

BUT we are hoping one day soon land owner cna use thier own fuel for runs

except not F2p

ah then go to here to make sells

[quick garnet]

yes... thx

[rotund forum]

Is that not an idea? There might very well be demand in Zero for lower tiers to buy fuel, if they want to concentrate on blueprints. A lot of people are probably not going to like that idea though...

[quick garnet]

it's a good idea

[rotund forum]

I think the mayority might say we already paid for the land, to play overworld for free. Don´t know how many runs you could do once that option to use your own fuel is enabled but then they probably don´t want to pay fuel for research in zero. But it might not hurt to add it anyway, it is probably not THAT much dev work to implement it.

[kind wave]

Is there a guide somewhere for IZ?

Also, how does revdis work in IZ forbland owners?

• Do i have to have Staked ILV to get my share of the 5% for land holders
• if i do have staked ILV, how do i tell how much revdis came from land and from the stake?
• do i have to sell my fuel for land revdis, or do i get the revdis just by generating fuel?

[thorny crater]

idk how i feel about it at this point.

but if we started from the bieginning on that i would have just bought my land to max honestly

why wait a month/s when you can just do it in a week or day to max a land lol

i was told different. we get 5% of total fuel sales but how thats going to be distrubted idk

ah they need a better guide. I forget it changed so much from way back
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

not even an ERC-20 token or whatever

yeah when johnny was apart of the project
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

all this form 2021 though

[ocean haven]

thats not true, landowners get 5% of ALL fuel sales, so the first weeks where no one could produce fuel and we could only buy at top rail will be distributed to landowers based on how much fuel they sold

[uneven pulsar]

your fuel)

[thorny crater]

see there is a mix up of informatiuon than needs to be hashed out

[uneven pulsar]

if y didn't sell your fuel = 0

[ocean haven]

dr spoon who i think is most up to date confirmed this for me like a week ago

[thorny crater]

I thought so, let me go find thaht

[ocean haven]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

yes it will bacisly all be distributed to t4s and t3s

and the t5s... oh wait

you should go back and read

ok lil bro enjoy

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/dramatic-gif-26532302

its just needs to be better documented. its not our fault

[tranquil sparrow]

i haven't sold a single fuel (tier1 slum)

I want to atleast buy a chicken nugget from it

[gritty wave]

anyone else have a land plot just go blank and freeze up? and how did you fix it?

[tranquil sparrow]

damn that's a lot storage lol
i'm still at 3 (can't upload photo yet)

yeah im not into scanners and research either

yea right, maybe i'll consider that method 🤣

[dire crest]

Can I ask why my scanner time is not going down? Its stuck at 24:47

Thanks, I’ll try

[prisma trout]

@south mural
We can only dream...lol

@south mural
Talking about the chicken nuggetd...lol

[tired aurora]

@ocean haven
To throw in a third option from what I understood 😅

Two revenue streams for IZ land owners:

1. It's all the fuel you sell
2. • 5% of all NON-fuel revenue made by the DAO based on the amount of fuel you sold compared to overall sold fuel

[serene iris]

So I just noticed that tier 6 Hyperion converters produce more fuel passively than tier 6 crypton converters

It seems that they forgot to increase the passively generated fuel for crypton

Its a uo bug? Does that mean they are generating more fuel than they say?

[thorny crater]

not in 2021

or maybe he meant your game(ZERO LAND) revenue. i could have misunderstood

[serene iris]

...

[tired aurora]

idk, looks like two sources to me

IIP-45-R was passed with five votes in favor.
The proposal was revised to clearly define the landowners’ revenue share, which includes all digital product sales within the Illuvium gaming ecosystem.

I don't know. Information is just very confusing.. Not saying you are wrong.

[uneven pulsar]

we have 2 weeks speak about this in topik feedback-idias) and you only now is woke uo)

[tired aurora]

Yup. I think the main problem is that there doesn't seem to be one source of truth.
Currently, for sure it's just the fuel a landowner is selling since no other revenue is made currently.

I don't remember where I read it, just remember there was the idea or promise of 5% of non-fuel revenue to be also split to landowners based on their fuel conversion, season based system.

[tired aurora]

😂 well, still unclear to me, haha

[thorny crater]

Illuviums needs to make it clear. IDK who is right or wrong so its no longer an "argument" because of the conflicting resources. Can you show us where you got your info @south mural ?

this way we can give it to the team to then make it wildly known what is actually happening

[radiant sky]

it's 5% revenue from all digital sales.
iip-45-r

usually the share is secured with the 1:19 ratio in fuel sales on the fex (fuel exchange).

however, there might be products which can't be sold in fuel or it isn't beneficial for those being sold in fuel.
5% of the revenue out of every digital product sale not priced in fuel, will be distributed to the landholders quarterly.
it is distributed proportionally on the fuel sales each landholder had.
so if one sold 1% of all fuel last quarter, he gets 1% of the 5%.

[worldly flume]

What should i build first between a data bank and a materials lab?

[tardy falcon]

depends... if you are at capacity then u might wanna build a DB first so you can keep scanning. But if you aren't full then maybe a Mat Lab so you can research that biodata

[mellow lake]

What are the fuel prices at the moment?

[worldly flume]

How many biodata i can hold without a databank?

[tardy falcon]

5

[worldly flume]

Thank you 🙏

[low scaffold]

When is IZ gonna get reworked again? T1 is impossible to progress cause of fuel production being so slow 😫

I rarely even play anymore cause I can't upgrade anything and all I can do is wait for fuel lol

[sharp elk]

It’s literally guaranteed to progress.

Sounds like it’s the pacing that you are highlighting.
I assume the devs are already looking into other interesting activities that add fun to the game but aren’t fuel related.

[radiant sky]

ICCP-17
#1267902026533306480 message

[round harbor]

It has been some time… I have now upgraded my crypton converter to level 6 to figure out if it is just a tooltip issue or a real bug. And indeed, the passive generation does NOT increase from lvl 5 to lvl 6 for crypton converters on tier 2 lands. I really do not believe that this is the intended behavior, because for the other fuels it does increase.

[ionic wharf]

For me too, it only doesn't increase with crypton converters.

[fallow lily]

I think land owners should get a MUCH higher pct of fuel sales. That is a bit biased opinion though

[empty path]

I agree and I'm sure not owning tokens and only land has nothing to do with it

[thorny crater]

it seem like its # of units and not price that matters but im curious as well

[vivid cipher]

lol who approved this proposal

@potent dock the example does not follow the statement above it.

That is what usually follows the passing of proposals.

My assumption is that the example is the actual way it will be implemented. Instead of needing to count the ETH that was actually paid, the price of fuel varying makes it a weird thing to count. Simply counting fuel makes more sense to me. BUT counting eth ought to technically be possible and would further encourage fuel sellers to sell at the highest possible prices

[dim gulch]

Hello, i claimed my fuel crates, but now what can i do with this? how can i use it with my lands or how can i sell fuel? i can see it on my IMX passeport but can't do anything... somebody knows what should i do?

[prisma trout]

@low scaffold I'm in the same spot as you with a T1 land...stuck until hopefilly something drastically changes

@radiant sky
Referring to ICCP-17
What if you're unable to generate enough fuel to even play, let alone sell any for the time being? It will take a very long time for me to get to that point. I am pretty stuck at the moment trying to generate enough fuel too even upgrade my nexus & such.

[lost walrus]

When tier 1 Land is not boring enough and you have nothing after 5 scans wasting precious fuel....

[sand radish]

for converter passive income. Efficiency doesnt count right ?

[barren turtle]

They killed T1 land owners. 30 fuel a day is tough

[tranquil sparrow]

50?

[barren turtle]

Yeah, I meant 50 😂

[tranquil sparrow]

30 is fair for mid built t1

[barren turtle]

That’s enough for a lvl 3 scan, and three researches. But it will take forever to get there.

I got four t2’s and I’ve given up trying to calculate my ROI!!😂😂😂
I’m just enjoying the game

Any leaks on when a new zone will be released in Overworld?

[foggy bison]

LOL, one of my favorite movies!

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-pain-harold-gif-10576512

[thorny crater]

is that max level?

[winter ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-phone-call-listening-long-yeet-gif-11764220

[thorny crater]

i have mu ROI estimate for a t3....but its like selling all fuesl at the same price

[tranquil sparrow]

Yea with converter passives, but I think it can be a little bit more if u went all fuel without science (?)

[thorny crater]

yeah i did both ways, BUT ill add my land to the pic. Im sure it could be better maximized in a better way.

if i take away BPs entirely i could make it go a bit more in fuel sells but meh

[tranquil sparrow]

10 years ROI ☠️

[radiant sky]

i guess it's based on the amount of eth generated, since it is explicitly pointed out in a bullet point and it's just a bad example trying to explain the mechanism.
right @noble quest ?

[radiant sky]

I feel you, i guess we all are in the same situation, especially those which waited for 2nd wallet support.

So, if you don't sell any fuel, you don't get a share of those 5% of non fuel sales.

[vapid jolt]

Correct! If you're a player you can rent lands, and if you're a landowner you can also list your lands for other users to rent. Also, just a small correction - we're called LootRush!

If you have any specific questions feel free to ask here and I'll do my best to respond.

[tranquil sparrow]

I'm curious, so a player can rent my land, and then we split fuel profit?

[quaint prism]

Once the plot is built up, fuel generation is such a passive process that idk if a scholarship / rental model really makes much sense tbh.

[vapid jolt]

You can do so via LootRush (feel free to reach out if you have any questions). I believe there are also some Illuvium guilds offering rentals through informal 'scholarship programs'.

As others have pointed out, we're not Illuvium's official partners. A rental solution is being developed by Polemos, which I believe is an official Illuvium partner.

We're here to support Illuvium players and landowners, as well as the community, and fully respect and understand players decisions to choose whichever solution they are the most comfortable with.

[thorny crater]

yeah if BPS sell for nothing. BUT that's ok with me if this game can last as long as CSGO

AND if we can start using our own fuel to play OW = ❤️‍🔥

I made this for a rental agreement lol i have no clue how lootbox etc works but will never use a service until it is on illuviums website and be implement through illuvium.

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[stiff talon]

If any assets such as a blueprint is farmed, does the person renting the land get the blueprint or does the landholder retain the blueprint? What happens with the fuel when sold, does the renter get the eth sent to them or is this sent to the renters wallet?

[vapid jolt]

A player would be able to rent your land although they'd pay a fixed daily price (there wouldn't be a split fuel profit)

[thorny crater]

^^ need to add that to the rental agreement lol

the BP part

[vapid jolt]

Yes, this is a good point. I think if you're active playing Zero with your lands once the Lands are built up, it might not make sense to list.

However, if either you're not actively playing with your lands or have an excess amount of lands, it might make economic sense to rent and earn some rental fees passively

[vapid jolt]

Every asset/token/resource earned by the user renting the land is his to keep.

As a renter you're only paying daily rental fees set by the supplier

[thorny crater]

yeah id rent out the T1s cause i wont be building those for a long MINUTE lol

[worldly flume]

Can you get the same biodata twice?

[stable minnow]

I don't believe so, unless someone has seen this

(on the same land)

[thorny crater]

i did after i deleeted one of them lol

but never again, so far, if i had it already

[worldly flume]

Ok, thanks for answers

[rotund forum]

I still have 2 of these archies on one plot. I do think that is a bug though

[plucky venture]

I bought a T4 2 weeks ago. It's in progress on L9 Nexus.

T1's I had at the start of Beta are L6 with one ALMOST able to afford L7 and this bottom-feeder of a lot just pushed up from L4 on Tuesday. (Carbon, Carbon, Hydrogen, Solon ... 😬 Fuel nerf halted progression with some harsh bottlenecks due to lack of crystal.)

If people want to rent the T1's, power to them ... but it is tough to see someone signing up for that kind of pain knowing it will suck ahead of time. 😅

"Dude, let me rent you this real fixer-upper ..."

Fallen Star landmark ... no Solon trenches. But the converters can make use of the bonus. Should be able to arrange it nicely for a 2-3 of the converters reaching 200% conversions.

[ionic sierra]

monthly fees predictions for t1,t2, T3 and T4? thanks

[plucky venture]

I'd pay $5/month for people to manage my T1's. lol

Negative rent?

[winter ivy]

you can't be serious

[plucky venture]

Depends on terms, honestly. Would I outsource their building up the property to max? Yeah, maybe. It isn't entertaining to play a T1. 6 month term for $30? Goal is to max profits for them, which would already lead to them seeking some max build. At that point, I take it back and just visit every day to sell what pops up?

Yeah, seems like a better deal for me in the long run.

Maybe I look at it differently because I have a gaggle of kids. IZ for T1 is as entertaining to me as washing dishes. May as well pay some kid a small allowance to do it for me ...

[sage bough]

Nice!

[mortal bough]

Can the renter reset the land plot?

[vapid jolt]

Check IlluviHub, they have crowdsourced data on Fuel. Very useful!
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[rotund forum]

nice one mate! Congratz

I seem to be a bit unlucky, nothing interesting in 2 days and now I finished 2 t5 scanners and I get archie pffff.

[tardy falcon]

Yahhh I had long dry spells... with nada. I sometimes wonder if it's really 5% or 1% XD

[kind wave]

How do we mint then? There is option to mint kike there was in alpha

[sonic gazelle]

gm

[rotund forum]

they said november-ish

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/gm-gm-fam-fam-gm-early-bird-wake-up-gif-4975089889218988986

[sonic gazelle]

i found lesser monkier how can i trade him

[tardy falcon]

Can’t mint yet… maybe in a month or two. Should come around the same time as mega cities.

[bitter glade]

Just a quick update on Zero (more to come in a devblog next week). We're definitely going all in on finding fun ways for landholders to generate content that is valuable in the world. We've already discussed things like Beyond sales, and cosmetics, but we have more in mind. That being said there are some other really simple things we want to do that will help the whole experience.

1. Ironically, one of the best updates we can do for Zero is to increase the quality of Overworld and Arena. We have a plan for this that will help take those games out of Beta, including art updates that make the game playable on much lower spec machines (and mobile in the case of Arena), plus features that will bring more new players to the game and encourage them to spend fuel. Fuel is the cornerstone of Zero, and I'm sure nobody here will protest to making more money.

2. More stuff to create besides Fuel and Blueprints. This is pretty straight forward, and we think we can do it in a way that makes it more fun and engaging.

3. F2P content that lets people enjoy land without needing to purchase, and then convincing those people that it would be great to buy land so that they can finish all of the content (since only landholders will have access to all the content). This is meant to drive those players into purchasing land which should help boost prices.

I will go into more detail next week but just want to keep you guys in the loop.

[little moon]

@bitter glade anyways we have plants in Zero.... why don't you make them give out some special essences (only available on lands) in addition to the current random elements.

these essences could be used in forging armaments or skins

[rotund forum]

This sounds fantastic mate! Yes, if Overworld and Arena are more appealing to the people then the landowners can eventually sell more fuel, which is in a way a mayor part of our fun.

I have always thought and feared in a way that IZ would be a bit neglected. After all if you count on many players in OW and Arena, for now, we are only going to be max 20k Zero players (who already paid) and max 100k eventually. So in theory relatively to the rest not that many.

Glad to see landholders are far from forgotten

[bitter glade]

Definitely not neglected, but there are fewer devs working on Zero. I don't think that will change. That being said we will use the resources to the best of our abilities.

[rotund forum]

Thanks Aaron. For what it is worth, I am really enjoying zero. It is a great game but it might need some stuff later on, as when you hit end game, it gets a bit "10 minutes a day". Not right now because my scanners and biolabs are not hitting the same time, but eventually in the interest of not losing good nights sleep I will try to kind of sync them to my morning coffee 😅

[tropic monolith]

Why does fuel exchange orders take forever to fill?

[bitter glade]

This is part of the update. General idea is that there are general management things that will keep it fun that f2p players can do. But at end game they will struggle, and hence ownership will become appealing.

[rotund forum]

If you filled them partially... I would say because you made them too big. Prices fluctuate. And although I think the weekend is better than the week, it might drop a bit and you don´t complete all. It is now, since demand is not huge yet. try smaller batches.

[bitter glade]

Then the other side is the asset creation, of which will be a bit more simple (since free players can’t enjoy it) but will be fun for paid people…since those things can be sold.

[tropic monolith]

It did not fill at all. Is there no market price option? I have to manually change the price everytime market price changes?

I set sizes of 200 is that small or big?

[rotund forum]

no, 200 is good mate. That is not the problem. The thing is prices are not at high rail. What are you trying to sell? Or all 3?

[tropic monolith]

Just 2

[rotund forum]

hyperion is a bit shit right now. You can sell at 0.0000013 or wait for a better price

crypton upper bar is at 0.0000014508

[rotund forum]

keep up the good job Aaron!

[mortal bough]

Thank you for this update. I hope that this pays off big for land owners, I really like the idea of arena mobile and think it is a missing link. I dont play OW much anymore because it just feels like so much work to get a game going. But managing my land is an enjoyable experience throughout the day that makes me feel like I am building future income. Anyways, keep the think tank going, land ownership to fuel the economy!

[grand silo]

my big hate is waiting for the fkn plants to cycle. cant we just have 5 seconds? hopefully it gets shorten

[empty path]

Make land great again

[grand silo]

I enjoy playing Zero loads even with all its lack & faults. im looking forward 12 months down the track & those announcements getting made whats next. so bullish on Zero

im thinking about making a karen Guild for Zero

stompy & the karens

[hearty cradle]

Thanks aaron, while ur here can you pls share the progress on these items:

1. Fuel sales boost for MC owners.
2. Second Fuel Crate Airdrop.
3. Megacity implementation progress.
4. Blueprints
5. Podarium system

[fallow lily]

This is wonderful to hear

[crimson coyote]

Any threads or info on fuel exchange? Order book seems jacked up? Listed crypton for well below floor price for days now, it doesn’t sell but max price fuel sells instead.

[bitter glade]

Not yet.

[grand silo]

was watching scorioxs video and he mentions some talk about doing one currency for OV & Arena which would suck for Zero imo, but might be good for the other 2 games as well. Have the team thought about branching Zero keeping the fuels as is for gameplay while doing the one currency for OV & Arena. is that even possible

[mortal bough]

I hope not. I will throw in the towel and move on, and I am pretty sure I wouldnt be the only one.

[bitter glade]

That is possible. But again once we get the other games in a good state (especially for cosmetics) then it should be pretty easy for everyone.

[grand silo]

yeah one fuel would suck no denying that

[random siren]

I feel like anytime you post it should actually be an announcement, most will never see this

[broken roost]

Welp, nice try 😂

[bitter glade]

I’ll announce the blog post.

[hearty cradle]

[radiant sky]

That almost sounds Like the devblog is back to life 👀
Hoooray!

What about qol Updates Like;

• FEX UI improvements

• Building description improvements ingame.
  --> for example Material labs, that it actually improves efficiency.
  --> Building cost/ production output for all Levels of a Building

• implementimg a production overview
  --> for example list all extractor, converter outputs and give a total number produced in 24h etc.

• cycle time UI to have a time Ticker
  --> filling border looking cool, but the information value is very limited.

• many more little UI upgrades

I feel little qol Updates Like that would improve the game by a Lot with not a huge dev workload

[uneven pulsar]

Boss are you planning to port ow to the mobile platform too or it is to much effort for UnrealEngine 5 ports on Mobile?

[bitter glade]

Not right now.

[uneven pulsar]

2025?)

I like to play ow but i want to play everywhere)

[bitter glade]

Much more likely there is more work on other mobile features before 'the overworld' as it currently stands.

[uneven pulsar]

yeap okay, but we thought about 3 games on the mobile?)

[swift sphinx]

I have just logged in after months, and when I try to migrate to passport, when I try to import my land it does not appear

any ideas¿?

[rotund forum]

Last thing I heard was Arena was planned for mobile but end of next year, and OW is just too heavy for any mobile out there. They were thinking of doing some kind of app, where you pay for a simulated run, but you don´t actually get to see it. And the "loot" will not be as great as a real OW run but it would be a solution for the only-mobile crowd. Don´t know if that is still the plan though.

[noble willow]

hey mate, thanks for the update. Not sure if it's been said here, but I was thinking a mechanic where the Podarium gives efficiency increase to scanners, but decrease to other buildings would help with some specialisation, and having to make a choice. Think of it as it helps the flora to attract the fauna, and decreases mining and power because maintenance of those buildings are more expensive/difficult because the encroachment of nature gets in the way of the equipment.

Also, for those of us on mobile and who have bad eyesight, can we get it so we can view the plot from any of north, south, east and west angles? Having the single view makes it somewhat difficult to see clearly what is in place

[rich grotto]

Oh god

[orchid apex]

How can I play Zero on my laptop? Could somone please help me? I can do it through my phone but I want to be able on my laptop. EPIG isnt working anymore for some reason

[rich grotto]

I just put some roads everywhere in my plot, to avoid getting flooded by wild things... And now the plot is not loading anymore :x

Is this a known issue ?

[rotund forum]

I think I have heard people say that here yes. There is that and on the other side the plant issue that you have trouble removing them, because when you do and place something else there you get a "network error" and the game restarts and the plant is right back.

[rich grotto]

I'm currently stuck

After a while the plot loaded, but nothing is available in the UI I can click to harvest a few things, but I cannot access to the menu to remove the roads or any menu at all. Cannot built, cannot upgrade.... The game is broken :/ I tested an empty plot and it's working perfectly fine so it's really an issue related to "my plot / UI of the game".

If anyone has a fix I'll gladly take it. Or should I open a ticket ? :/

There is no way I'm resetting the plot.

I tried deactivating FX and a bunch of things via the UI while loading the free plot, but it did not change a thing

Same behavior via mobile it seems

[rotund forum]

I would open a ticket, just in case.

[low river]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1268088574834905210

been stuck like this for 2 weeks

[rotund forum]

Does anybody know this; when megacities get added I assume you have to merge them yourself, or choose not to? And If you merge them but they are already built upon does that get wiped or will it just be 4 x nexus etc.. will all previously constructed individually remain on the megacity?

Thanks

[timber glacier]

That would be extremely easy to do.

Just make a new building (refinery) and let players "craft" the overworld fuel from the 3 fuels we have now.
That would also give the devs a better lever to adjust the production ratio (by changing the crafting cost of the refined fuel). That way you can balance the game independently from the state of the fuel market rather than having to readjust every building in IZ whenever they see a need for changing the fuel ratio.

[rich grotto]

Omg ...

[paper sleet]

So I am a level 8 nexus now and I am at the point where I think I have to sacrifice my path bonus for efficiency. Does the path bonus only effect the amount of time to upgrade or does it also effect mining rates?

[halcyon lotus]

how to fix UI bug?

[rotund forum]

only time. efficiency is achieved by building powerstations nearby

[halcyon lotus]

hahaha same with my plot

[rich grotto]

It's crazy so Many of us are in this situation...

[paper sleet]

Any thoughts on the podarium? Kinda hate plants and I don’t need the resources the plants give me.

[halcyon lotus]

it will helps you soon when you upgrade. extra fuels

[halcyon lotus]

yea i've waiting almost a day already and still no UI hahhha

[paper sleet]

So I can upgrade the podarium and the plants give fuel instead of carbon, water, and silicon?

[halcyon lotus]

its up to you, plant always appeared 1-3x a day

[halcyon lotus]

but if you don't need you can escape it

[tranquil sparrow]

that anti plant plot is funny

[halcyon lotus]

@minor peak @cinder breach @cinder valve @dusty cobalt @spice vector Please help us, about this UI bug.

[tepid dragon]

podarium features are not implemented yet

[rotund forum]

I think that thing doesn´t work yet. If I am not mistaken it will also serve for the flying swarms that stun you in overworld, to make dyes in zero.

[tepid dragon]

absolutely.
you should be able to stack those morphopods in your podarium to increase the chance of plants growing in its AOE and let them mutate depending on the affinity of the stacked morphopods.
If you harvest those mutated plants, you will get dye's as reward which will be needed in the skin crafting process.

At least that was the plan few months ago, who knows what changed meanwhile 🙂

[noble willow]

hey all, when moving a passive collector, either elements or fuel, do you lose the partially generated resources?

[tepid dragon]

no, but you do lose them when you upgrade them.
so always collect what you gathered before upgrading.

[rotund forum]

That is quite interesting. So it will be a must have for blueprint crafting. Thing is, although I have build one on my plots I have little to no area left to have a garden. In the end I´ll have to delete something else. I hope they reduce the need to have a zillion powerstations so we actually can make some room

[timber glacier]

It affects the production timer, so you can collect more frequently with a higher bonus (Active production only, it doesn't affect passive income from converters).
It has no effect on building efficiency though.

[tepid dragon]

i feel podarium are going to be mostly built in t1, since they have barely enough fuel to do other things like research high tier biodata, or sell fuel.... which isn't a bad thing in my opinion

[paper sleet]

That makes it clear thank you. Sounds like keeping a path bonus for important structures is important

[rotund forum]

yes but since T1 are going to have a hard time researching T4&5 biodata someone is going to have to make these skins as well, that probably being plots T3/4. Because you can´t send over the blueprint to another plot, no? Or can you? These unlike fuel actually are nft´s so in theory you could sell it to yourself and send it from a higher tier to a lower one to make the T4/5 skins.

[tepid dragon]

The Blueprint needs to be an NFT and you use it in overworld. So you can send them to any account you actually want to

[rotund forum]

and given the current situation of not enough demand I highly doubt they are looking for ways for us to produce more fuel.

almost there... tonight I can start researching the only T5 I found so far 🥳

[pearl marten]

Wow you re lucky congrats! I have almost 50 biodata but no T5s so far

[broken roost]

hi everyone im going to briefly explain here why blueprints are a scam to landowners. If you are or care enough react to this and then i'll post it on feedback-ideas.
Lets say player 1 finds a blueprint, he can now take it to the overworld, and pay an X amount of solon to forge a skin. Then he'll go to the marketplace and sell that skin for X+Y and get profit right?. Now what happens when a second player finds the same blueprint? Well, player 2 can repeat the process and sell that same skin at a lower cost, beating the other persons saled and making some profit for himself. Then of course player 1 does the same, and the wheel spins until the price of the skin is below profit. Which means that by the time 2 people get the same blueprint, the only ones making profit would be the ones selling solon. (might aswell just sell skins in marketplace alongside battleboards)
Suggestion, make blueprints have a limited amount of uses before it ''breaks''.

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[rotund forum]

50! Wow. I am in 3rd day of not finding anything

[gritty wave]

you might be right

[broken roost]

i mean it already happened with pre alpha blueprints

market flooded with people selling bps at ''cost of solon + 0.01'' cents. Then all bps are worthless

[rotund forum]

There are 4400 blueprints and we have 500 paying players. Also there will be other batches of illuvials whilst others cease to exist. I think we’re good

[rotund forum]

Because everyone had the same 15

And all T1s1 I think. They are very abundant, so pretty close to worthless

[broken roost]

there is no need for them to be abundance, having 2 in exitence makes them worthless

[broken roost]

then only the rarest one, for a small period of time is worth something and all the rest are just a picture?

[rotund forum]

You could just try to contact the guy and make an agreement. Better than undercutting eachother

[broken roost]

yeah that would work(nope)

[thorny crater]

I was disappointed with that. I think it was done so t1 plots had a chance to get BPs....... one day lol

[broken roost]

even if they get some, they'll be already found and not worth a single penny

[thorny crater]

gunna be interesting to see how they go about it for sure. but if we can start using our own fuel in OW the solon aspects goes away

[broken roost]

why would you want a blueprint to forge a skin that someone is selling in marketplace at the same cost of the minting price?

its just silly

[thorny crater]

make the fuel prices to mint a skin super higher?

i only got stage 1 blue prints. anyone has stage 2 or 3 yet?

[rotund forum]

Ok so even then, if you consider it worthless you just start researching another one, and start selling those. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[broken roost]

what would you sell? to whoom?

[thorny crater]

consumer experience is the number issue before all this for sure

i agree on that

[rotund forum]

The skin? Every player loves esthetics no? And wants to have something unique. I think looking at games like LOL the value lies in that, having a rare estetic skin. We just need a lot more players for anything to be worth it, that we already established. Playerbase needs to increase a lot.

[broken roost]

you wont get to sell a skin because there will be someone already selling them for the cost of minting + 1 cent

did you understand the part where supply is infinite?

and why i suggested to cut supply by making bps limited use?

[pearl marten]

These guys won't be able to undercut themselves for long and i m going to explain why

You forgot about the part where in the process of making a skin besides solon you will need to burn 1xspecific illuvial ( ex: to create an atlas skin you will need -> atlas BP + atlas illuvial + solon etc)

So as illuvials will get rarer at some point as supply is not infinte so will the skins .. at some point equilibrium will make way and no one will undercut because illuvials will be harder to get by

Imo if i will see someone creating the same skins as i make i will sell it at that price also but not cheaper

[broken roost]

someone will sell cheaper and you just wont sell

[broken roost]

skins only cost solon

[pearl marten]

You re way off here... skins will require an illuvial to be burnt
It's always been like so

[broken roost]

i've crafted skins, spent 0 illuvials so far

[rotund forum]

I don’t think you understand yet how hard it will be to get some blueprints. Sure, the atlas skin for mozart will be pretty abundant and therefore not profitable, but the low droprate of some will make these unique and be worth something. If you thought of changing your dayjob to selling skins then yeah, you can forget about that 😆.

[pearl marten]

Don't take into account what's happening now with the alpha bps as only a handful of people can use them... i still can't see my alpha BPs in the forge .. Aaron confirmed they are working on this

So skins and BP minting is not yet live

And trust me the recipe for a skin will always require an illuvial

[broken roost]

move them in and out of wallet, worked for me

[broken roost]

doesnt so far but ok i guess

thats exactly supply and demand what you described when bps have limited use good job

[pearl marten]

Maybe @bitter glade @verbal igloo @minor pagoda can you confirm that the creation of a skin has not changed (when it will be live) ? In the sense that the recipe for creating a skin will always involve the burn of 1xilluvial among the other requirements

[broken roost]

even if the skins now cost an illuvial, lowest price of skin will be transfered to *cost of solon to forge + *lowest cost illuvial in market

Allow me to rephrase. Me: lets make it so that when 2 people find the same blueprint the don't both become worthless

[pearl marten]

If you will want to sell the cheapest be my guest... i for sure won't make that mistake as long as illuvials are limited and season 1 will only be live for another 6months i think.. i ll just let you run out of supply so then i can create skins at my desired price

The skins game is not a rush to be the 1st imo

Also you are not taking into account how much fuel you've wasted by the time you got that BP .. that should also be accounted for.. so I'm not worried .. if people want to sell Atlas skins for 1cent i'll just wait another 6-9 months when Atlas is very scarce and i'll sell Atlas skins with 4.99$ as more and more people will join Illuvium and won't be able to catch Atlas anymore

[broken roost]

well it is a rush to be 1st now..
ok so if the skins start costing illuvials to forge and if illuvials are limited time only (which i thinks 6 months is and incredible short period of time for that mater) then yes, skins will become limited finally and we might see some shenanigans. But i insist, price will be determined by the illuvials, which is independent on land

[pearl marten]

On that note yes i agree.. illuvial cost will greatly influence the price of a skin

Hell .. i can even say T5S3 skins won't be produced by anyone freely but on order.. i mean it's risky to burn 1 Titanor for ex just to put a skin on the marketplace

[broken roost]

lets asume that scenario happens. We have 50 people with a rare rhamphite bp and the end of the season and no more rhapmphys will be minted. Do you think people will be able to sell skins at a profit, or will one of those 50 undercut and sell for a smaller profit until rhamphite prices are too expensive?

[gritty wave]

we have a big problem with t1s...with only a 5% chance to even get a fact, and requiring most of the fuel to do this each day, yeah for t1 plots the rarity of bps will still be high, esp. higher tier ones. But for other tiers of land it could very well lead to what you suggest..esp. without out thousands playing gauntlet and wanting to show colors. But honestly I was so wrong on $400 being good value for a t1 land...I'm not sure $200 is even a good value give current game play mechanics for it.

[broken roost]

then would you sell skins or just sell the rhamphites? the point is skins have no value because they will always be worth as much as the cost of minting them

[stiff lily]

What is the most profitable of drone skins ore armor skin😁🥲?

[pearl marten]

I think T4s and T5s will always sell in profit.. i don't think anyone is that stupid to sell lower than the actual production cost
If I'll see this happening i'll happily buy off the skins to sell them later at a profit

[broken roost]

not below profit, just barely above profit is enough because of the simple fact that you can always make more. Buying the skins would have the same purpose as buying the illuvials

[pearl marten]

Even with stage 3s for lower tier.. let's say a exalted aapon.. by now there are like 1k in existence ... by end of season let's say they will be 5k ...
If i own 50 of them and see prices for skins lower than production cost i ll just hold off as supply will be stopped

[foggy sage]

Working on the last material labs and i will have it all.done

[broken roost]

you'll end up with a market flooded with skins pricing at *cost of minting + 0.1usd

and cost of minting is determined by illuvials in this case, asuming solon is constant

[pearl marten]

Even so .. skins will get scarcer because once you 'bond' it on your suit you can't resell it... so a burn mechanism for skins is in place

[broken roost]

you can always make more, thats my point

bps have endless uses

[pearl marten]

Until you have no more illuvials... so it's not infinite supply

I really can't see your argument here... even if we all have the same BP we will be able to create a finite amount of that specific skin. And that's it

[broken roost]

exactly, illuvials are the limiting factor and the only thing you can sell at a profit. Which has nothing to do with land

[pearl marten]

So? Illuvials have always been and will be the core part in every game Labs will make

You having the ability to create cosmetics from illuvials is just a perk unique to landholder

[broken roost]

let me put it this way, how is it a perk for landowners if i can go to the marketplace and get one for the exact same cost of crafting one?

[pearl marten]

Because only owning a BP let's you create a skin... who can mint BPs? Landowners

[foggy sage]

Good theory but they will just reduce fuel production and make it even harder for land owners to mint skins or even have fuel to scan them

[pearl marten]

When you buy it off from the marketplace you get the end product .. you're not the one producing it

[broken roost]

yeah btw im just ignoring the fact that we have to pay to get bps

[broken roost]

whats the difference? bought skin is essentially the same as crafted one

[foggy sage]

There you go the more you ignore the better the game is

Now your learning

[pearl marten]

But when you craft it you control the price you put it on the marketplace... buying it doesn't give you that 'freedom'

If you re afraid skins won't be lucrative why don't you just focus on selling fuel? I don't understand your fear here. What would you like to happen?

[foggy sage]

He basically wants to make it scarace for crafting skins so that the supply of them doesnt spin out of control similar to the current problem of their being 100000000000000000 dokkas that no one wants all selling for .0001$

And so that making skins never become a net a negative for the land owner

I think?

[pearl marten]

Dokes are T0 which are free.. it's another discussion. And what's your solution? How would you make them scarce?

[broken roost]

not scarce, but limited, and not limited by the amount of illuvials or any other factor but by the chance and expense of finding one

[pearl marten]

I've said it many times that my only fear is that you can research the same biodata again and again. If we can remove that and make it for example you can succesfully research a biodata only once (get only 1 BP from it) i think we'll be safe.

Maybe you could make a 2nd BP if you find that biodata again.. but that would be it

[foggy sage]

Its happening with all the illuvials in every stagr as more people catch them but 95% of them are useless cause the stats are bad thus creating this ever expanding supply of poor statted illuvials combined with no way to search the market place for good statted ones forces players to post in this cord a pic and a link showing off good statted ones. Making the experience clunky.

[pearl marten]

It is.. give it time.. this last update has made some real improvements to the capturing experience and with the intro to Leviathan already high stats illuvials have been bought. That is why skin producing will be another illuvials burning mechanism

[lyric hamlet]

My level 2 crypton extractor is only doing 3 crypton. Is this right?

[sharp ridge]

Shall we expect milestone missions for zero in the 2nd season?

[foggy sage]

Thats alot.of.fuel

[thorny crater]

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/hooray-sponge-bob-patrick-yey-celebrate-gif-15670049

[acoustic igloo]

Hi how can I list a Cling blueprint on marketplace? please help

[empty path]

You can't mint blueprints yet

[random trench]

weeks in and still no fix for path bug

why did i spend money on this trash game

[rugged abyss]

I still have problems with season points, ranking etc. it says 0 what I habe beeen playing and doing points… is anyone in the same situation ? Any idea why it could be ?

[empty path]

Wait, you get points for playing IZ?

[rugged abyss]

I guess

[empty path]

Where can I check

[radiant sky]

browser--> passport --> log in --> missions

[empty path]

I don't see missions

[empty path]

Oh illuvidex, I was looking in imx passport since you said passport

[radiant sky]

my bad

[empty path]

wooooah 14280 points

I'm gonna be rich

[acoustic igloo]

thanks

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-kek-bttv-twitch-emote-gif-15123134

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-money-raining-money-meme-pepe-money-gif-20679525

[empty path]

Oh there are even daily missions, didn't even know

lol

perfect time to find out

[radiant sky]

more or less the only thing there is for zero 😄

[empty path]

lmao

[rugged abyss]

I guess you just played and didnt do anyyhing else right ? I dont know why mine isnt workking

[empty path]

Yeah I just play IZ 😅
I think I started like 2 weeks ago

[radiant sky]

do you use the same e-mail for the passport you used for the testnet?
or are there no points showing from season1 mainnet?

[marble nexus]

Can i use my crypton from a Tier 0 land for Iluvium Overworld?

[inland shore]

Make land Great again

When can we finally use fuel in the game from our land? This is getting silly

[dry otter]

Trump has said he will bring the fuel yield back to the old level when he becomes president! Drill baby drill

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-gif-20816418

[gritty wave]

hey got my first blue print...now that was a nice surprise 🙂

[magic rose]

hey guys I can't accept a buy offer to my land

[fair temple]

Probably because the other party does not have enough funds

[magic rose]

lol is it possible to send someone a buy offer even though u don't have enough funds ??

[fair temple]

If you send the buy offer and then spend all your money, then yes.

[twilit bough]

Yeah got the same. They just offer several and then don't have the money anymore.

[uneven pulsar]

What tier land?

[magic rose]

tier 1 crypton and 3 different elements

[wispy geyser]

hey

hi to everyone

some admin that can help me please

i have the game bug since yesterday

[vivid cipher]

Helping in #❓❗〕community-help

[mortal smelt]

Are they going to fix the plant situation? i've used all my tokens to try and see if I could wipe them away and manually and it is never ending with 3 spaces open

[cloud pecan]

no zero milestones LOL

[stoic rapids]

bullish on land. means no land sale plans, and that's the only zero-specific change that would drastically hurt values

[noble willow]

hey all, anyone have a good online plotter where I can plan out my plot?

and happy Father's day to those in Australia

[iron anchor]

Still no milestone for IZ?

[last tiger]

Build some road paths on those spots brother

[chilly copper]

hi sorry new here but how to increase efficiency to maximum for buildings?

[mortal smelt]

I get an error cause the plants grow faster than I can put down a path or building

[stoic rapids]

connect as many building as you can via roads. as long as one road tile is touch a building vertically or horizontally (not diagonally) it counts as connected to the road network

[mortal smelt]

unlimited plant generation

[tardy falcon]

it just takes a while... you'll get thru the que eventually

[mortal smelt]

I pulled 14 times and there is no end

[tardy falcon]

there's an end

[chilly copper]

i have to interconnect as many buildings together as i can?

[tardy falcon]

bang out 3 at a time until they are gone... they pull faster when they are new sprouts

[leaden sun]

has there been a guide made yet on how to use fuel crates apart from selling them?

[stoic rapids]

yeah exactly

I mean you don't HAVE to, it just reduces the amount of time it takes to complete an action like mining

Im considering removing some roads so I can fit in some extra buildings, since I have to sleep at night and can't do a 20 hour fuel production cycle

[chilly copper]

its a "best case scenario" gotit

thanks for the tip

[stoic rapids]

but until your plot is completely full I'd try to connect everything

[chilly copper]

hardly full, just started a week ago

and im a casual player so

[foggy bison]

More Power Stations - lots and lots of Power Stations!

[chilly copper]

https://tenor.com/view/frankenstein-its-alive-gif-10618052

[stoic rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[lyric hamlet]

Is it worth getting blueprint?

[little moon]

Only time can tell

Anyways better to get them incase

[noble willow]

It will always be good to get stuff earlier than not. Eventually they will become rare/unique as the production of them is phased out. I assume that's the plan. I haven't played anything like this, skipped pokemon, but that phase out is an important part of the economics of the game. There is no mass adoption yet, so getting stuff now means you will have things those others won't once they are onboarded.
There will always be people willing to pay as soon as they join to have the best gear from the get go.

And if not, it's pretty much time that you've lost

I am interested in hearing the plan around blueprints, and ensuring value later on. As said, multiple people getting the same ones means they aren't rare, which would indicate needing to go to somewhere specific to get them in game, for those who haven't produced them later on.
That to me indicates the ability to host shops in Overworld, and characters would literally have to travel to them to get the kit.

[noble willow]

yep, totally get that, but still going to be a natural progression of removal, even for the non-rare ones I would assume. Doesn't mean the normal ones will be worth muc

*much

[uneven pulsar]

Lol, lucky land

[mortal smelt]

i've been chopping plants till now and its not stopping!!!!!!

wtf

[wide bobcat]

hi, can we not use fuel generated on our land to play overworld?

[foggy steppe]

Does anyone know how to launch the Zero game? When I open the Epic Games Launcher, I only have a choice of Overworld or Arena.

[stiff talon]

It's a separate game - search Illuvium Zero on epic game store and you will find it

[foggy steppe]

Great thanks. It was a bit confusing, because when you are on the illuvium zero website and click play now it takes you to Overworld/Arena.

[tardy falcon]

crazy

[noble willow]

not yet

[foggy steppe]

Were the Plots reset at some point, my partner played Zero for 4 months and got my land to over Level 100 from memory, had heaps of resources. I just migrated it to Illuvium Passport and it is totally reset to Level 1

[quaint prism]

The plots were reset when the public beta launched a month ago.

[foggy steppe]

I told her I'd give her the profits from any resources we can sell, she is not going to be happy after she finds out she played 4 months every day for nothing

[minor hazel]

they always said there'd be a reset when it went live

[empty path]

You reach level 100 in a few days

[foggy steppe]

Maybe it was 1000 or something. I am waiting for her to reply to tell me what level it was.

[empty path]

Doesn't really matter, all plots have been set to 0

[lapis gulch]

Do we have stage 2 blueprints in the game? I've only got 1 s1 armor and 1 s1 drone blueprints.

Are there 3-4 drone blueprints and 4-5 armor blueprints per biodata?

[little moon]

does this mean that after 24 hours of scan will it be completed?

or just scan and itll count

[pearl marten]

Lfg!
Funny how 5/6 blueprints i found are for the same armor type. Seems that every plot has 'assigned' only a pool of 2 armors from which you can gain a BP

[empty path]

Also Neuroplate here

[pearl marten]

I'm curios if you will find BPs for other type of armor (i have only 2 types) and from what i've seen with other people it's the same - each plot has a pool of 2 armors from which you can find bps - never seen someone posting 3 BPs each for a different armor

[misty rock]

Can i check if this armour have any Stats advantage?

Strange that the graphic show an Ace and the text says Atlas

[short jackal]

How much time is needed to extract carbon, convert silicon, extract silicon and research biodata?

[rotund forum]

they said there were 12. But I think even at (low) atlas level there might be different droprates for some armors, so that is why a lot of people have the same. Surely there is 1 or 2 that are a LOT harder to find.

[rotund forum]

blueprints are unfinished. Just as you can´t mind them they lack their corresponding graphic. They said 3 months after release so that would make it around november that this update patch would be added

[vast dirge]

not sure if its already in the works but a way to turn off repeat task for buildings by clicking on them rather than having to find it in your production tab would be a huge qol boost

[rotund forum]

if you turn off auto repeat in production task you´ll be able to click on the buildings. Not sure if we are talking about exactly the same thing though

I have turned off the auto repeat for the passive extractors, since if you don´t you are never able to get the passive elements/fuel

[rotund forum]

it will be different for everyone, as it depends on your road bonus which speeds up these processes. The more roads connecting to more buildings the higher the bonus, it will go all the way upto 20% although I am personally happy with 10% and have more space to increase efficiency instead.

In endgame the 20% will be 4.8 hours off while 10% 2.4 hours off. Since I usually play at the same time each day, it does not really matter if the extractions etc. were done 4 hours ago or 2. For me it is just a 24h cycle. But everyone has his own strategies

[short jackal]

Is it doable in a few ahours?

[rotund forum]

low level buildings yes, but end game buildings (L5 scanners + biolabs), level 6 extractors... no way. Soonest possible theoretically would be a little under 20h

[short jackal]

Thanks 🤝

[vast dirge]

yea i know, im saying instead of having to find the building you need to turn auto repeat off in the production tab being able to just click on the building normally and do it from your plot

[deft quarry]

What is the point of building paths?

[vast dirge]

its just one less step and if you have many of the same kind of extractor finding the specific one to turn off can be a little slow

[grand silo]

classic😂

[deft quarry]

What is this crack in the middle of my map?

I can't post screenshots?

[noble willow]

need to have participated a while, get to a certain level in the server to post pics

[deft quarry]

Oh.... thanks

[vocal pasture]

Is it an Hyperion landmark?

[noble willow]

I have no idea

[deft quarry]

Its a pegmatite swarm landmark

[timber sapphire]

what tier land do you have?

[deft quarry]

I believe Tier 2

[deft quarry]

It does mention that it enhances hyperion production. But I can't build anything on top of it

[vocal pasture]

This?

[deft quarry]

yes! Looks exactly the same

[vocal pasture]

Yep, it is not suppose to build anything there

It gives a bonus on Hyperion production and conversion

[deft quarry]

Aha.... okay. Thank you~

[vocal pasture]

Just let it there and enjoy the extra Hyperion

[deft quarry]

What is the point of the roads? Does it help with anything

[vocal pasture]

Is it a free plot right?

[vocal pasture]

It reduces the time to build, extract, convert etc

[deft quarry]

Yeah it wont let me build anythingon top of i

[vocal pasture]

The more things road connects, the faster

[vocal pasture]

The point is that the free plot helps you experience the game. Landmarks like that are only on Tier4 lands

And yes nothing is to be built there

It just marks the land bonus hability

[deft quarry]

Wow... I am an idiot! I totally forgot what land I bought... it was so long ago.

[noble willow]

wish I had a T4 I forgot I bought.....

[vocal pasture]

Ahahah it happens 🙂 free ones have a * on the left side when you select them

[deft quarry]

I bought a Halcyon Sea years ago (when the sale first happened) but I don't see it on my list of plots when I open Illuvium Zero

[vocal pasture]

Probably is not on imx passport

Or in the linked wallet

But it must be somewhere 🙂 it’s a matter of transfer the land nft to the passport

File a ticket

[deft quarry]

Thanks

[rotund forum]

yeah that is true. I try to identify them by their remaining time to finish their cycle, but true, sometimes you have 3 you started in the same minute, which will make it a gamble to turn off (and lose whatever you paid for that cycle) until you find the correct one.

[timber sapphire]

did you migrate it?

[feral ginkgo]

We still cannot use the fuel we produce?

[inland shore]

Nope and no timeline for when either. Staff has been on vacation and continues to be on vacation

[wary skiff]

Hello, can you help me understand the point of the whole scientific part of illuvium zero?

1. Is it worth concentrating on this? More than fuel sales?
2. How does it work? What does it involve?
3. What is the purpose of the zero-point transducer?

[knotty sable]

Anyone else having issues getting money loaded into IMX? i use my coin base wallet and now it’s not connecting properly and saying I have $0?

[feral ginkgo]

Hayss 🥺

[uneven pulsar]

why solon is down to quick?

[safe crater]

Land cost a lot of money, needs lot of time, but doesnt yield anything of value

Time to change something here.

Maybe time to retire the 19x of fuel that gets sold

[mortal smelt]

GL with all that

[wanton crater]

Is it ZERO, meaning zero fuel value?
If you can't make money in LAND, I wish you would have stated that in the beginning.
I wouldn't call it P2E. It's just an online game.

[empty path]

You can sell the fuel you produce

[wanton crater]

Who is buying?

[tardy falcon]

people who play ow to either collect illuvials to sell or ppl who play ow to catch illuvials to play arena

or to play ow to gain xp for illuvials for fusing

or ppl who are saving the fuel to buy d!sks

There's just not a huge amount of players in the ecosystem...

[broken roost]

hmm, wont d1sks spike the price of fuel?

never thought of that

[tardy falcon]

probably yes

[broken roost]

but its going to be massive demand in a short time compared to a normal time

[tardy falcon]

yep

[empty path]

You need fuel for d1sk?

[broken roost]

yeah they changed that so that landowners get their share

[empty path]

woah let's gooooo wen sale LMAO

[broken roost]

soon

[empty path]

Ok I gotta upgrade those fuel extractors then lol

[mortal smelt]

what about the previous shares...?

[broken roost]

welp, some people tried to fight for them, we didnt get enough support and shares were like scents anyway. But it was more about what it meant i guess. Dao decided it was enough to change it from wave 3 onwards

[grizzled remnant]

No more milestones for AP. Nobody now Want to craft. No utility in it.

[uneven pulsar]

thx

[wary skiff]

Hey, thanks for your answer.
How blueprint farm work ? (I talk only about Zéro) Is it the same than beta (= scanner then material labs ?)

And what can do a "Zéro point transducer" ?

[uneven pulsar]

the same

[wary skiff]

And zéro point transducer ???

It's write "téléport matter accross large distance", what it's mean ?

[pseudo pulsar]

Any talk about lowering fuel cost per scan ?

Blue print scan

[undone dagger]

Ayyyyyyy what happened this time, last time I was on T1 Land had stabilized at like $200

Now it's $168? Can! We! Hit! $50?!?!?!

No really I want it to hit $50 I want to buy Land

[little moon]

nothing right now

probably when they implement minting of BPs

[chrome grove]

I’m wondering how low land will go as well. Would be nice to snatch a t3/t4 cheap, in hopes something changes drastically.. feel bad for those that spent 30plus ETH and can’t sell it for more than 3.2 right now.

I don’t see how a T4 would be significantly better than a bunch of t2’s, especially when fully upgraded

[upper cloud]

wen zero milestones

[wary skiff]

Really nothing ? So they let a building completely useless in the shop ? It's strange

Someone try to create one maybe ?

[lost walrus]

Don't buy tier 1 land, useless

1000 dollar wasted on 2 tier 1

And don't buy builders for tier 1 and tier 2, even more waste

[atomic cove]

the 1st governance proposal for epoch 10 is up. Take a look!
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1279848507125268521

[little moon]

yes, for now

they will be implementing the BP minting sometime

no idea when though

[viscid bolt]

on my tier 2 land, the level is stuck at 201, even if I have more exp than is needed

Is this a bug?

[rotund forum]

It is better because a T2 has 3 fuelsites and a T4 has 9, and also T2 has a +33% production boost whilst a T4 has +300% production boost. So you´d need about 9 T2´s to match a T4.

[rotund forum]

this is for now the top

[viscid bolt]

Really? So, I can't get the 400 coins I need for a third worker? Bummer.

[rotund forum]

maybe using the free plot? The coins are acccount bound

[foggy bison]

Just buy them, I did.

[viscid bolt]

Do you only get one free plot, or can you add more of them?

[rotund forum]

just the one.

[dry otter]

Does anyone sell fuel at the moment? I try to sell 100 solon for the first time but nothing happens!
How long can I expect this to take?

[viscid bolt]

How low did you set the price?

[dry otter]

0,0065

I did not change the price

[viscid bolt]

So, $0.65 for 100 solon?

[dry otter]

Yes because i do not want to drop the price even more

[viscid bolt]

I think $.64 is the max right now. $.32 is the average. So I think that you would have to put it at $.26 or so to have it sell. All other solon orders would have to be placed before someone would buy it at $.65.

Can I move the fuel I got from the $45 bundle to my land plot?

[dry otter]

Sorry, it was 64!
But thats the price i pay if i buy some, right?
I would like to use my own fuel in the ow!!
In this case i'll lose money!?

[viscid bolt]

I'm not sure, but I think so. I think using your own fuel in the OW is a feature that might be added in the future.

[dry otter]

That means i lose more than half of my fuel!? I think it's better to wait for that feature!

[quiet hare]

Should I build 2 singularity scanners?

[stoic rapids]

you'll get bonus fuel when you buy equal to the real market price at that exact time

type in an amount you want to buy and it should show you on preview, although its not 100% accurate

[little moon]

Yes, if you have the space for them without sacrificing efficiency. You can build upto 5

[quiet hare]

is it worth leveling them up?

the last upgrade took 7 days lol

[little moon]

The higher the level, they can scan higher tier illuvials

for eg., LVL 3 can scan tier 3 illuvials

You can have 1 LVL scanner for each tier

[narrow bear]

So you can’t use your own fuel in OW?

[quiet hare]

the one I have is lvl 5 and it scanned a T1 illuvial lol

[little moon]

Yeah, a higher level can scan a lower tier but not vice versa I believe

[undone dagger]

If it's useless and worthless then just give it to me, cut your losses clean off and be done :)

[lost walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/ned-flanders-the-simpsons-okily-dokily-oki-doki-gif-13900216

[undone dagger]

...wait, really?

...gimme a second I didn't think I'd ever get this far

[undone dagger]

Give it to me straight, doc, are you actually gonna give it to me or are you just trolling the local beggar (who kinda deserves it ngl)

[lost walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/sigh-le-sad-cat-gif-16777715376630435814

[undone dagger]

Listen, I miss 100% of the shots I don't take, I need to know if I hit that 0.001% chance of success

wheeze

I do enjoy my ability to have an out-of-body experience and laugh at myself before snapping back to reality

But also, please, make the beggar stop begging

I'd even sign a contract that I'll never sell the Plot, if that matters

Taking silence as a no, which is very fair, have a great day :v

[last tiger]

hi guys did anyone use the secodary wallet for playing illuvium zero?

im not feeling safe having on imx passport

if anyone hacks my email i will be sad af

Ive link my main metamask as a secondary wallet on the ilv site

so now i can send my land to the metamask and still playing with my land and dont lose any progress on my land right?

[little moon]

yes, check with @radiant sky

[radiant sky]

Yes
Check out the Guide:
https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10406834136079-How-to-Move-Your-Land-to-Your-Secondary-Wallet

[last tiger]

thanks guys 😉

[vivid cipher]

Yeah it works well when you do it properly

[last tiger]

i dont have hardware wallet i just could send to my main metamask right thats my secodary wallet on ilv

[frosty haven]

Yeah man I went with I think 5 of each fuel station and then 2 scanners. I think that’s the sweet spot for T1 land

[ebon spear]

Are there any docs on how blue prints work? I'm looking for info on blueprint uniqueness, how to mint skins, what affect do researched "facts" have, etc

[pearl marten]

Minting recipe is not known at the moment (it was BP+illuvial+solon+dye - but not sure about the final recipe) as BP minting is not live yet
Each fact increases your chance of finding a blueprint for that specific line of illuvials

[ebon spear]

Thanks. What about uniqueness? Are blueprints unique? If not, is there a limit to how many of each type can be researched (across all players)?

[fair temple]

Blueprints should be bound to a steeep bonding curve. At some point (2022/23) kieran and aaron were talking about one person finding that one super rare rhamphyre blueprint.
i.e. i would expect the T5S3 blueprints to be found 1-3 times in the next year. But maybe that turns out to be BS. Hahaha things have changed a lot from the initial plans.

[pearl marten]

No they are not unique. You can find a BP for each of the available suits (15) + for each drone (4) - so you can research 19 Atlas (for ex) different BPs on a single plot (and even more as it seems the original design of being able to research only 1 BP for 1 biodata has been put aside)

In theory this doesn't sound too good but as it stands now with the scanning + research costs i think you can take away Tier 1 and 2 plots from the equation(at least for higher level BPs) and even a good chunk of T3s (to be able to fully sustain daily scanning + research at high lvl you need to spend more fuel than the daily production of a Tier3)

[native gyro]

When are we going to be able to combine the plots and build mega cities?

[pearl marten]

I've already seen 2 rhamphite biodata found ... i would say in a year there will be a lot of T5s3s 😄

[pearl marten]

This feature should be available in the next 3-7 weeks

[plucky venture]

https://tenor.com/view/doubletake-gif-20683599

Maybe some of the deadbeat land holders will crawl out of their shells to sell their plots, finally ...

Yes, you, 0x7fc3...d25a!

[plucky venture]

I hope this timeframe is right. ILV is still likely to be cheap/on a general down trend. Might be able to re-arrange plots without costing Elon-money.

[pearl marten]

I'm just stating what already has been decided via IIP
#1237926169756696628 message

I hope also that there won't be any new delays

[plucky venture]

Seems a lot of play has dropped off until new missions/airdrop points/results are posted. Haven't sold a drop of fuel in the last 24 hours.

Guess that's a hint for me to go touch grass.

[vivid cipher]

Yeah that’s fine. Be sure to ADD the secondary account before transferring the land to the wallet controlled imx address. #❓❗〕community-help message

[rotund forum]

I think they´ll cut it off, so yeah the people who actually get it can mint it and create those skins but it won´t be a lot as you say. The droprate is very low

and then no more, it will be batch 2

IF someone wants a megacity btw, I saw there was a strictly T1 2x2 for 1 eth total. Well, 1,04 eth.

not really ideal as you won´t have any bonus but still... cheapest megaland I ever saw

on tokentrove

[misty rock]

The Fuel earning for T2 and T1 land is so Mediocre. I my as $0.40 for a whole week of work.

Dev please implement dynamic DAO Fuel emission.

For the direct Fuel transfer from land to overworld. Can the dev consider the 19x inflation of the Fuel to be given to the land owner since they have to use whatever they transfer it can't be resold.

Kindly let this be the last saving grace perks of owning the land so we can produce some fuel to supplement our daily game play.

[last tiger]

Yeah feels bad brother...but I think they will do something good soon for us landowners, something more balanced, the silence about Ilv zero means they are working on something, plus Ilv is still a baby taking the first steps I hope.

I would buy more lands if I had the money

[misty rock]

Land is cheap now compare to few years back when they doing the land sale

[gritty wave]

not cheap...a fraction of the price...small fraction

[misty rock]

Does anyone have the idea on what is the estimated max Fuel Production Qty for each Tier of land?

[misty rock]

Yes we technically funded the game. They should give something of utility or perks back to us

[gritty wave]

you got those "valuable" blueprints remember?? 😉

[barren turtle]

Do blue prints have a utility or buff or is it just Skins?

[grand silo]

@high sleet dm u

[stoic rapids]

is there a max number of fuel converters?

[high sleet]

noperooni

[chrome grove]

Has anyone done the math on loading up converters at 50%, compared to a few spaced apart at 150%?

[serene iris]

I've got like 7 in a group on a tier 3 plot. The passive generation is really low. Not sure its worth it

Ill be levelling a few to level 4 before I make final judgement

Levelling above level 4 would probably take a couple years to pay for the upgrade cost

Depends on how many scanners you have.

I've got 13 at 150% and 1 scanner. If you dropped the scanner you could get 14

13 total not each

Right... I misunderstood. I have never tied to Max that out

[stoic rapids]

interesting, sounds like more efficient to shoot for max efficienciy instead of carpeting with 50%

13 is pretty solid

and you could presumably plop a 14th by your scanner and just reduce the scanner efficiency a bit?

[serene iris]

Efficiency seems like the best way to go if you ask me, at least since the fuel nerf

[serene iris]

Not sure that's a great idea, you want to max the scanner Efficiency since it cost a bit of fuel to run

[misty rock]

It’s skin. No combat advantage if I am wrong. Pure cosmetic only

[gritty wave]

and selling for pennies...with thousands out there

nice idea, horrible olive branch

[misty rock]

If blueprint when equip can change the affinity or class then it will be something special

They can make the skin a burned item after we merge it with an illuvial. When another skin is merge it will replace the old one

The skin should be single use. Because they need resources and fuel to craft so it is a sink for fuel.

If blue print is single use then it’s going to be difficult to burn a lot of fuel.

How much is the scanning cost now? I also give up and never bother to scan

[misty rock]

Problem is there will limited design of blueprint and for the entire season period when we can scan for it we would have extracted the whole collection

Single use blueprint is interesting but that makes it too costly for skins only

[broken roost]

for context #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[misty rock]

Currently There is 20 Affinity and 20 Class

20 x 20 = 400 combination of Affinity and Classes on Skins

So if we have 400 combination for each of the say 5 design for each illuvial. We have 2000 Blueprint type per illuvial.

That will make each blueprint unique enough.

After each season the blueprint is removed forever

Ok which one does the community here prefer for Blueprint?
1️⃣ Single Use
2️⃣ Affinity & Class Mod
3️⃣ Single Use + Affinity & Class Mod

We if the poll is strong here. I will move it to the feedback and hopeful the council will take consider the idea.

We are all working together to make it work.

[minor hazel]

finding the same BP over and over would be soul-suckingly depressing imo...especially when it takes forever to find one. So what, just spend literal years accidentally finding the same one over and over before lucking into a different one? Won't happen to everyone but the ones it does will likely be very vocal and deter some potential new players which the game desperately needs every one they can get

[shut wave]

How do you guys decide which biodata to priorotise for blue prints? Which out of these look a bigger priority. Most research return nothing 🙄

[minor hazel]

literally just highest tier -> which look probably cool -> which look like I'll play and want to match
head empty tactics...I'm sure you could check which Illuvials are selling to tell which are being played and more likely to sell matching stuff but meh, go for what you like imo

[noble willow]

how are facts gathered again?

[empty path]

Probably the scorpion

[noble willow]

ah cool, on the free plot I have a bunch of biodata, two blueprints, but no facts

[minor hazel]

lol i have nearly 20 facts on 4 of my many biodata and can't hit a BP...I assumed the free plot couldn't hit BPs with how bad I am at researching

[plucky venture]

Not on a T3. I'm slowly upgrading my to L6. Probably be 2 weeks before max fuel production for the T3 plot. I'm guessing the T4 I bought on 8/20 will max out first, though.

[signal maple]

wow I need to change my setup after a long time and now the plant keep spawning everytime I free the space

wtf is this feature? They make me feel like there is a ton of plant waiting on a queue

should I continue to free space???

[plucky venture]

I assume the monkeys will be worth something because: Monkeys.

[empty path]

Plants are even more annoying on T4 plots where you don't need them at all

[empty path]

They are the first ones everyone finds, I don't think they will be worth a lot
But then again, if everybody thinks like I do, there won't be many around 😄

[plucky venture]

I'm learning this.

[plucky venture]

I don't think they'll be rare, just popular to buy.

[empty path]

All depends what the skins will look like and we don't know

We wanna look good but we don't know what our blueprints will look like lol

[torpid cloak]

hi

[serene iris]

On a tier 3 plot a level 5 converter makes 8 fuel in 12 days at 50% efficiency

It also costs 50 fuel to go from level 4 to 5. While not literally years to upgrade I'm not convinced it's a good deal. At least not until the rest of your plot is developed

And considering they may rebalance fuel rates at any point without notice I'm personally not wasting fuel upgrading converters that yo level 5 if they are only running 50% efficiency

[plucky venture]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I assume they will nerf production, again. Hopefully, they fix the fuel ratios so that progression is possible on T1, again.

But since few parts of Illuvium community seem to be getting their way, right now ... I'm assuming another quick and dirty punch in the producers. I'm upgrading while I can. I understand the saving fuel strategy, though.

Holy moly ... one person owns all this. Who are you, neighbor? (The minting cost of all those was ~70 ETH. Bless your diamond hands.)

That's not a megacity ... that a full on industrial revolution.

[serene iris]

300 days to recover the fuel for the upgrade on a L4 to L5 converter run at 50% in a tier 3 plot

If I did my maths right

Pretty sure I did

[plucky venture]

Are you counting the all-in Nexus, Quantum, Extractor costs? Curious to see the math.

[serene iris]

Its only the L4 to L5 converter alone

[plucky venture]

Nevermind. I get it. I'm looking at extrators, not converters.

[pearl marten]

I don't get what you're suggesting here.. how would you make for ex a magma+rogue skin (as there is no magma rogue illuvial) ?

How would you design 20 different skins(1 per affinity) just for a rogue class?

I think your calc is wrong as you just cannot make 2000 different designs for a single illuvial... and even if you could do you understand what volume of work that would require?

[hazy jewel]

Guys, blueprints and fuel from f2p plot are of any use ? i can sell them or use them for myself?

[serene iris]

lol yeah def max out the extractors asap..

Original conversation was about running a clump of converters at 50% for the passive bonus only

The maths breaks around level 5 if you ask me

[serene iris]

Sorry no... only use is really to get a feel for the game and generate some airdrop points

[plucky venture]

Or "speed up points" for your other plots.

[hazy jewel]

so i can actually stop opening that plot ?

[plucky venture]

Sure

[minor hazel]

using it to generate more speedup coins can get you extra builders on your main plots quicker which speeds up when you'll get to producing/max stages. imo it's at least worth doing on your off time/between other plot upgrades. any hastening to fuel and research is beneficial

there's no downside to having the f2p plot in any stage of development instead of empty

[serene iris]

Yup, especially if your getting your airdrop points elsewhere.

Think I took mine to level 40 just for the speed up tokens

I havnt opened it since

[sand radish]

damn scanner 5 is expensive 😅

[empty path]

How long does that one take? Going to level 3 is already taking so long 😅

[sand radish]

can't say, level 4 still ongoing. But can extrapolate and say a good week (more or less with 20%)

[misty rock]

Basically the skin will modify the Class and affinity of the illuvial. Something like mutation to something unique.

Example a Winq with a Fire and Rouge Skin. Will change it into rouge and fire. It throw away it original affinity and class. This mutation will create different possible of game play. Maybe the dev can release the skin batch by batch after testing if it will break the game

As for generation of the artwork of these skins. The Dev can create layers on the skins in their model. When u change the affinity it is basically changing the pattern and background of the layer. When the game get more mature and the dev can revisit the skins and polish it by adding texture and effect

So it can be possible.

[pearl marten]

Hmm i see now.. but i wouldn't go down that road because it basically changes the entire Arena/Gauntlet mode..

It takes away from the uniqueness of each illuvial meaning you would have 150+ characters and each can be whatever you want it to be... like take 6 Titanors and make them rogue .. i wouldn't see that happening

As for the models i would just be happy to have proper skins and not suits with different colors (although they will have differents effects) .. it remains to be seen how those will look

[minor hazel]

168 hours before path reduction

[empty path]

Jezus F

[misty rock]

Anyway in order to see your illuvial skin in action you have to zoom in and follow it around the board to see clearly what’s the effect. It does not affect any battle stats at all. In short just a dress up show

[hazy jewel]

wich are the benefits for scanning higher levels? there is any resume table wich costs/benefits ?

[radiant sky]

you can find higher tier biodata with higher level scanners.

[minor hazel]

each level corresponds to the same level biodata you can potentially research ... lvl 1 =t1s, lvl 3 = up to t3 etc

[hazy jewel]

and what about the costs for upgrade/scan ? i saw level 1 is 6, lvl 2 is 9

[minor hazel]

6/9/12/15/I assume 18 but I haven't bothered going to 5

[mint blaze]

What happened to the s1 points? Got reset and nothing happen? No airdrop?

What is the points for? If they just dissapear?

[last tiger]

Hi guys I have a question if I buy another land from the market that land will have a reset or I will keep the progress of that land?

[limpid crescent]

Hello everyone
When are we getting the rewards for season 1? And is there a way to figure out what will I get?

[timber sapphire]

they are calculation all points now, will take few days, you can see your points in the history tab

[iron laurel]

I have a question about workers and future Megacities. Will we be able to have a total of 12 workers/city or only 3?
I don't want to spend the credits on the individual plots if they are not going to be able to work once city functionality comes in.

[keen dirge]

How much silicon does it take to upgrade a scanner to level 5?

17m ?

[robust widget]

Hey @shut wave ! Can you please create an ingame report from Zero? This will provide us with the necesary information to better assist you. Thank you in advance!

[rotund forum]

does anybody know if the network error is being worked on for the next patch? It is basically making it impossible to move anything.

[radiant sky]

don't think details got leaked for next Zero patch.
But i assume most buggs will be tackled some successfully and some maybe not 😄

[stiff talon]

If the person played the land and you purchased it. You will keep the progress which means all the buildings and pathing will remain but the fuel and elements collected will be reset. Also the land level will remain the same even if you reset the plot yourself.

[fathom shell]

someone can help pls? My production is stuck even with 150% efficiency

[noble willow]

it's always power. Are those level 1 power stations?

[fathom shell]

is not power the problem

at least doenst show it is

the game is bugged then

[noble willow]

are they level 1 power stations?

[fathom shell]

yes

[noble willow]

that's it then

upgrade some

[fathom shell]

but i have another one with power station lvl 1 and is working fine

looks like a bug to me

[noble willow]

upgrade a couple to levl 4 or 5 at least, and see if that fixes it. If not you've lost some elements and a small amount of time

[fathom shell]

i will try thx

[noble willow]

no worries. just saying it that straight up because of how many times I've seen others go through this in the last 2 weeks of me playing 🙂

[smoky canopy]

I have been unable to open my plot for about three days.

I tried logging out and back in on mobile and PC. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling.

When I go to select the plot, it perpetually says "Loading Plot..."

Any fixes?

[rotund forum]

you´d make a good politician my friend. It reminds me of those who predict bitcoin; it can go up or it can go down, we just don´t exactly know when. 😝

[rotund forum]

yeah, sometimes it doesn´t show it but upgrade the powerstation next to it and it will start working. It is a "bug" that it doesn´t show correctly there isn´t enough current.

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-grogu-jump-doing-my-best-gif-24931372

[leaden egret]

Not sure it s really worst the cost… 🤔
Except once everything is already at maximum around, but we have time for that 😅

At level 5 you have 65 units for 18 hours waiting, makes 3.611/hour.
At level 6 you have 75 units for 24 hours waiting, makes 3.125/hour.

So you pay 150 units, loose 30 hours for no possibility to make units during this time and all for that to make less during the time after that ?…

🤣🤣🤣

Check my vision here ☝️

[fair temple]

So it is a bugged UI?

[leaden egret]

Wait a minute, something I don’t understand…
Check the picture here …

Means that I don’t mine 65 but 45, so why is it written +10 in the evolution screen ?… 🤷‍♂️

[radiant sky]

you get + 10 which then is 75 (written in white)
and it needs 6h more for the activity which results in being 24h (also written in write) after the upgrade

[fair temple]

Nono, he currently gets 45, base +10 then x2 due to T3? x 1.5 due to the efficiency, makes for 75 out of 45 now.

It is all a big mathmatical piece of genius

[leaden egret]

Yes but would mean that actually I make 75-10 so 65 but I make 45…
Why this difference ?
Should be written +30 and not +10 then

[fair temple]

Well the added base is 10. And the basr you now have is 15

[calm trout]

When i am sure that there is enough free power around, i move the building somewhere else and then back. Worked well for me more than once
@fathom shell

[radiant sky]

it's because of the tier boost not being calculated in in the upgrade screen afaik

[leaden egret]

Don’t really understand cause even 1.5x makes not 30 but 15

[fair temple]

I math'd it backwards.

45 / 150% -> 30 -> which is 2x due to you playing on a T3. So the actual base is 15.

15x2x1.5=45 xD

[leaden egret]

Well makes things really complicated explain like this 🤪

[fair temple]

This is the way

[radiant sky]

+10 is the base for the upgrade... t3 200% boost... resulting in getting +30

i guess

[fair temple]

No the boost is only 100%

[leaden egret]

Ok, any way I got my answer, have to make it 😅👍
Thanks for your time guys 🙏

[fair temple]

I did the correct maths it works with that. 🙂

So the base is before boost and before efficiency.

And the UI shows you the total after all bonuses minus the base which is just wrong.

[leaden egret]

Looks like T1 are really trash, more than ever now I know that 🤔

[radiant sky]

been like that since first day of alpha s1

never liked it really....

[fair temple]

I see

[radiant sky]

i guess they will improve it when they find time... just way more important stuff to do

[fair temple]

As long as it isnt training gyms im fine with it

[leaden egret]

Only thing I need now is mega city !

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-james-franco-looking-gif-15728181

[leaden egret]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[radiant sky]

lets start with ironing out bugs and then step by step to megacities 😄

[fair temple]

Dude lets just polish at least one thing in Zero. The energy is bugged, calculations wrong and now they already promise new features. Please just make the game work properly xD

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-huh-yep-nodding-head-gif-25228733

[noble willow]

night all

[fair temple]

Good night

They did change a whole lot of things going from alpha version 3 to beta.

[empty path]

I miss the marketplace, it was the best storage

Why did they delete it?

[fair temple]

Do we actually need a zero point transducer to sell fuel?

[vivid cipher]

A real player to player version should be made available eventually.

[empty path]

Impressive how smart I am

[empty path]

Think we need it to mint for some reason

[empty path]

So it was removed cause they didn't get it to work?

[cinder grove]

Is there a max on one type of fuel converters?

I can’t build the Hyperion Lathe anymore, but I can build the others

I have 12

[opal thistle]

What level is your nexus? have you reached your building cap?

good to know

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953