🎮〕illuvium-zero

[thorny crater]

I don’t feel like doing t2 math right now working in t3 but I saw this a while back

[mental wing]

thats actually super helpful

[thorny crater]

No the actively log but yup you are 100% airdropping right now

[shell stratus]

airdropping?

how do i stop that and upgrade

[thorny crater]

I lie

[warped osprey]

hmm that's wierd

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-doggo-hand-in-mouth-gif-25762525

[shell stratus]

its bugged no?

[vernal estuary]

Uncheck all of your filters and you will a different airdrop icon

[thorny crater]

Foot in mouth yup bug. Maybe try restarting if you haven’t yet, if not the devs are watching this too and dealing with those big reports

[shell stratus]

@vernal estuary i did

[vernal estuary]

When you click on the nexus what options do you see?
How long has it been since you've 1) logged out then 2) exit to desktop?
Worst case scenario, uninstall and re-install.. if that doesn't works then you may have to wait for a ticket response.

[vernal estuary]

If you're airdropping, it will look like this one below... the above one is not airdropping

faceplant reminder to self... turn off on repeat on fuel converters!

[shell stratus]

try thankyou

im updating as well

[orchid isle]

Fuel converters need to reworked 10-11 on max conversion on lvl 1 20-21 on lvl 2 with 150 efficiency… way less if not 150%

[thorny crater]

That’s because pàssive increases

But I get what you’re saying. In the beginning I would not have made them lvl 2 so fast

That said it was done like that on purpose

[shell stratus]

Updated deleted reinstalled everything still not working guess just have to wait for support

[pearl marten]

Already brought up with the team - these are the formulas up to lvl 3
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[vernal estuary]

It's more beneficial to build a bunch of T1 converter after the patch... at least for your immediate conversion needs. Passive is still better at higher tiers though

[slim wigeon]

Guys for the ones ready to sell fuel and who are playing the game Zero has a huge advantage right now because you can sell your fuel to yourself at 50% discount

We should be thankful

Prices will go to 0.18 but this means nobody here needs to stop playing because of falling fuel prices 🔥

[orchid isle]

How?

[slim wigeon]

Set order 0.18 and buy the same second done

❤️

[pearl marten]

Yes .. 7% is 3.5 which basically should round up because the formula is using CEIL and not FLOOR
which is weird why you only get 3

[vernal estuary]

Please elaborate on your calculating a 50% discount? Buy/sell price is the same on fuel exchange... buy/sell is the same price right now

[slim wigeon]

You will get a bonus and this will be 50 % of what you bought 🔥

[onyx nova]

quick question. Is there any point to play Illuvium: Zero with the free plot? Cause you cannot sell the fuels right? Are their any benefits playing the free plot?

[vernal estuary]

I still don't understand, kindly provide the equation your working from? Price is 7 cents to buy and sell right now.. how is that a discount?

[vernal estuary]

airdrop points

[slim wigeon]

So for example if you buy 2000 you get 3000 more is not possible as you can t go lower with the price of course quantity you sell needs to be 5 % of what you buy

[slim wigeon]

The price you see is not what you get because there will be a bonus

[daring citrus]

been waiting a week to get money out of arb for a t3 land, now the price is just out of reach 😓

[vernal estuary]

I'm honestly trying to understand.. It was previous stated that for every fuel you sell, the DAO produces 19, and you get 5% revdiv from that. Now that makes me wonder if it's 5% of the ETH value at the time of sell, or time of distribution.

I.e., minimum sell is 10 which mean 190 fuel produced by DAO. So right now 190*.07 = 13.3 and 5% of that is 0.66 in revdivs ---> So does is revdiv generate but when ETH goes above 3K again... it will buy/sell ~ 0.08 then it would 15.2 in DAO sales with a 0.76 revdiv ... this is $usd math

[strange pivot]

I also would like a bit clarity and on fuel sales

[radiant sky]

You get what you sell

What actually is unclear to you?

[strange pivot]

Thought it was 5% of fuel sales. Since the DAO sells at a higher price? At the ceiling.

[radiant sky]

You don't get 5% of the fuel sales 🙃
When there are 20 landholders they would get 100% of the fuel sales 😄.

[radiant sky]

When dao sells AT top rail it gets redistributed let me Look for the iip one sec

#1265601592476831787 message

[strange pivot]

Ahh okay thanks 🙂 So what happens at this moment if I let’s say want to sell 1000 Cryptom. I get to sell at the buy price in the fuel exchange?

[open stratus]

I'm at level 10. Look out.

[stray flame]

Hey team quick question, anyone know id there is a chart somewhere that shows at what level or upgrade each fuel extractor generates? 🤔

For example:

With no boosts from power plants or paths

Lvl 1 Hyperion extractors gives you 2 hyperion per 2 hours

Lvl 2 4 per 4 hours

ETC.. and so on…

Just curious to see how much a tier 1-5 land can produce at what stage and at what capacity. Also what level do you max at lvl 10? Nexus?

[radiant sky]

Check the iip i posted above your comment

[open stratus]

Can I buy credits on illuvidex ? Or need to use cc or something

[radiant sky]

No, not yet
maybe some content creators did a thing

[open stratus]

Dang thats it huh. Guess I'll just have to wait

[stray flame]

Anyone here that would like to share your highest lvl fuel extractor or what’s the highest level someone got on any tier and how much are you producing per extractor at what level/time

[open stratus]

So you can't do illuvidex on pc either ?

[radiant sky]

Might be a restriction from Google/Apple.
Haven't read an official statement to that yet

[open stratus]

Alright thanks

Is there any more info on megacities

Yeah sorry that wasn't clear I meant credits. But you got it anyway 🤣

Will megacities connect diagonally ?

Oh man that's a bummer. I had never considered until I got this t3. Then I realized it's surrounded by water

[radiant sky]

?mega-city

Hmm

!mega-city

[open stratus]

Naughty bot

[radiant sky]

?mega-cities

There was a command i'm sure

[reef jasper]

what does an updated power station do?

[strange pivot]

Ok, thanks. but how are the prices determined? By landholders? Landholders set a price they are happy with? And if that price is lower than the current buy price, market prices converges downwards? Just trying to understand since I’m not yet in fuel sale mode 😊

[open stratus]

Thanks, it's far down the road for me anyways, if it's not practical doing like a T shape, it's irrelevant anyway

[radiant sky]

?zero-megacity

[lethal wyvern]

What are megacities in Illuvium: Zero?

Megacities allow adjacent plots that make up a 2x2 or 3x3 square to be combined to form one larger plot.

The expected benefits of a mega-city are:

• the ability to share landmark bonuses between plots,
• the ability to share resources between plots with no transfer cost (in either time or resources)
• the ability to share support buildings like the Engineering Lab resulting in increased available space.

Megacities are not currently available in Illuvium: Zero and a specific date for their implementation has not been announced.

[radiant sky]

Yea, you can Set the price you want to sell fuel:)
Me neither mate, not even playing my Lands yet

[radiant sky]

It delivers more power

[strange pivot]

And what happens with the difference between the price I set (let’s say 10% lower than the market price)? And the price a buyer has to pay (the spread)? The player gets that in bonus fuel? It gets redistributed anyways right in proportion to how much I as a land holder sell for of value vs all fuel value sold? 😉 so does not matter maybe

[reef jasper]

more power = less power stations needed for max efficiency?

[solar swallow]

when it will be possible to use fuel directly from land with out selling it just ot buy it for overworld?

[radiant sky]

Power, not efficiency

[radiant sky]

Afaik
the buyer always buys in floorprice.
It is (should be) displayed as a Bonus to top rail.

I feel the ui we have now should get reworked but thats my Personal pov.

[solar swallow]

too bad that the most annyoing thing ever if You own land and want to use it for playing

[radiant sky]

Good catch, thats not true.

You need power so the Buildings are actually working.
Every powerstation also increases efficiency of nearby Buildings up to a Max of 10% if they are right Next to the Building.

Upgrading a powerstation increases the power delivered but not the efficiency

[vernal estuary]

Would be nice if it was efficiency too, 18 power plants is crazy for a fuel converter

[radiant sky]

Agreed.
I'm pretty confident that gets reworked

[reef jasper]

so whats the point in having increased power delivered?

[radiant sky]

The higher Level the Buildings the more power they need

[reef jasper]

thank you

[vernal estuary]

I mean you're already using crazy amounts of power plants to increase efficiency.. why would you need to upgrade... hahaha

[reef jasper]

Dr.Spoon | Illuvimod — Today at 6:20 PM
The higher Level the Buildings the more power they need

[vernal estuary]

Anyone know the frequency that is calculated? I.e., hourly, daily, weekly?

[vernal estuary]

I was being sarcastic sir 😉

[radiant sky]

You could just create a sell Order AT floorprice and delay the fuel Sent to Account until that Order got fullfilled. But idk actually how they are going to do it

[solar swallow]

mine are up for 0.0067 cents for few hours and didnt sell so i guess not that often

😄

[vernal estuary]

I was more curious about how they calculate the *average price.
But now I'm curious what you mean by ...delay the fuel Sent to Account ..

[vernal estuary]

can I buy direct? lolz... really should have been an in-game marketplace to buy/sell between players then the DAO gets ~90%

[velvet ember]

Anybody else having a hard time seeing the amount (number) of passively generated fuel? Changing the font color would be very helpful.

[vernal estuary]

Like similar to WoW/EQ

[radiant sky]

But not necessarily wrong...
With the current Parameters you would likely Spam converters on 50% efficiency and just build a few high Level powerstations to power all that converters.
I haven't played yet, so didn't spend time in doing exact math but my Ball Park estimations would leed to that strategy.
Might take some time tomorrow to do some calcs

[strange pivot]

This is what I am wondering about. U as a seller set a price at 0.0067. But I as a buyer am paying 0.0071. So looks like the buyer is not paying floor price? Maybe I’m missing something 🙂 it’s getting late here in EU haha

[solar swallow]

no clue its just super annoying and not clear at all and just makes me to not play it 😄

[radiant sky]

Wouldn't really be a fundamental Change, would it?
Just a little Feature added.

[vernal estuary]

Speaking of passive regen... I wonder if there is any benefit to waiting until the full cycle happens, or if early claim is same ratio

[shut wave]

Power higher stage respurce or fuel generators. No need to upgrade all power stations is what someone told me yesterday with a fancy mr spongebob gif 😁

[radiant sky]

Oh that was just for the Feature were you can send fuel from your Land directly to your overworld Ranger. But thats not implemented yet

[reef jasper]

so only one will do for all building in a section?

[shut wave]

This one 😂

[radiant sky]

I don't See right now how Else they would do it to keep the ratio 🤔

[shut wave]

Yup thats right

[reef jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/no-really-dog-stares-cant-be-serious-funny-dog-gif-2966939698439169510

[shut wave]

When purchasing fuel you cant lower the purchase price right? I couldn't alter it. So when we sell it at lower price, how does that work? Anyone know?

[polar cosmos]

Only DAO know 😅 but they cant explain how it works in easy way xd

[gritty wave]

I would love to see them add more missions for zero, including perhaps upscaling nexus, and path bonus increases, as well as scanning and finding data

[open stratus]

That would be legit

I had thought that's how it worked tbh

Regardless I went full idiot and splurged a t3. Hope I don't regret it

[gritty wave]

yeah the speculators who bought land before launch are probably dumping here, or have dumped already. And I also thought land was a good value, but of course a big correction in crypto overall does not help as most of the assets are priced in eth.

[mortal mirage]

Hello. How can I sell resources from lands or use it in overworld_

[thorny crater]

is this in effect right now? i built it but now thinking i dont need it yet

[little moon]

When? I'm literally on the verge of buying

I'm even considering buying a T1 just because the fun of it won't be entirely wasted but it won't make any meaningful money. Anyone have any thoughts? Someone here helpfully suggested a plot with water and Hyperion is all you really need if you're looking for a bargain

[little moon]

On the illuvidex I think. I'm not that far into the game

[twilit bough]

If we developed the land in the passport because we wanted to start now, will we be able to send it back to our linked address without losing the development of the land?

[pearl marten]

We're still waiting on a reply on this
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[subtle frost]

What happens if I reset plot

Do I get to make more coins

Why do I even want to do that.

Hopefully I don’t accidentally touch it

If I fell asleep and touched that button and reset that would be so sad

[thorny crater]

f2p land cant sell fuel

[reef jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-16704157274113773062

[thorny crater]

i had to do it whne i bought my t3 two days ago

you have to hit that button then say confim. there is no "accident"

[little moon]

Yes.

[thorny crater]

but there is a glitch when transferring/selling land. the buildings dont go away and they dont produce anything. so you havet ot reset. that said the level does not reset when this is done

[slender crown]

This is my worry. Won't be able to transfer without reset.

[barren ore]

I did the reset because the fuel extractors were frozen after buying a land that had buildings.

[thorny crater]

thatsa glitch you have to reset.

land is supposed to auto reset on sales, but for ever reason gets stuck with the buildings.

[upbeat drift]

What do you mean?if someone buys my land,it starts from zero?

[thorny crater]

yes.

the level does not though

[barren ore]

I'm not up to date on all things but I was hoping they stayed and worked. weren't there plans to rent land?

[thorny crater]

i think rent starts over too, do not quote me on that one though.

[upbeat drift]

What??that s plain stupid to reset the land.

[subtle frost]

Why

Are there seasons for land?

Do we reset after each season?

[fiery dirge]

I have a q about daily quests.. My only remaining daily is to collect hydrogen but I don't have any hydrogen sites. SInce I cannot complete it they don't refresh and the weekly missions are also blocked by that

[subtle frost]

No hydrogen? Convert some?

[fiery dirge]

I've done that but the quest is collect hydogen from hydrogen site

so converters don't work for the quest

[coral vortex]

converting doesn't count for the goal, I made the same experience

[thorny crater]

im trying to find the why beehind land sale restes. i know it was talked about but cant remeber

[thorny crater]

no

this is buying/selling only

[vivid cipher]

I’m pretty sure that The transducer is for minting blueprints.

[thorny crater]

idk about renting

[subtle frost]

How are they going to make more game play after reaching the end

[thorny crater]

for zero?

[thorny crater]

second pinned post are ideas floating around, end game is where i want to be to produce mass fuel for the OW/arena. tha's the goal is to be at highest profit rates. well for me anayway:
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[subtle frost]

Hmm. Wouldn’t the price be lower and lower for fuel to play in the overworld

Unless the user increases I guess

I guess that will happen so we need to make more fuel

I guess it will stabilize

And if fuel prices increases too much they can release more land.

[thorny crater]

fuel needs to be lower. Land owners get more benefits than just fuel sales

esitmated total output once land is MAXed

[livid nebula]

Can anyone confirm that 12 converters for each fule type is the max you can have? I'm not sure if I've hit an unwritten max or if I hit a bug???

[vernal estuary]

Mine was missing 1 of 3 fuel nodes and had to reset. plus its reversed and a lot of other nodes / smaller extractors are hidden bigger ones. haha... they are aware of the issue and working on it though

[vernal estuary]

What is considered MAXed?
Is that just raw fuel production at max tier, or are converters included?

[crimson plaza]

I see the same thing, but idk if it is a bug🤷‍♂️

[vernal estuary]

Bug or not, it's a real bum-buggar if you ask me 🤣

[thorny crater]

cant upgrade your buildings any more. But that is an "average" it all depends on how you build your land too

so if you are looking for BP it will be less for example

[vernal estuary]

Let me rephrase.. I'm curious if those average calculations are based on raw fuel production alone, or if they are counting fuel conversions

[thorny crater]

BP =blue prints for anyone curious:
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[thorny crater]

according to the bottom summary of that pick i would say both.

[vernal estuary]

I do miss one of the UI building displays, the one where it showed you how many of each building type you had. Unless I'm over looking it in the new ui

[thorny crater]

passive and extracting is maximizinf fuel production

that and i would like to know which building i am looking at in the activity center

i have to guess based ontimes lol

[vernal estuary]

Go look here... or set timers ;)~

[tribal blaze]

@radiant sky @thorny crater @shut wave @flat steeple @south mural @trim otter @signal dew @spare veldt @timber sapphire @crimson plaza @calm trout Tagging y'all since you seemed to agree in previous discussions on this forum, I just submitted an idea in feedback regarding the power station meta issues

[thorny crater]

Here are two examples. The Solons one is lvl 1 and the other lvl 2. I have to guess which is which. Or go other build look at the time, can’t take off repeat there, then go back to productions.

And the other one hyprieon is a good example of which one is lvl 2, and the other 2 are lvl 3

[tardy falcon]

wen fix?

[thorny crater]

Still fighting the good fight ser. I’m rooting for yours to be fixed next

[vernal estuary]

I see what you mean. That'd be hard to do, unless you can name your buildings.. which would be hella awesome.. .but I'm sure the devs would despise the thought of the effort required to do it

[radiant sky]

Will have a Look at it tomorrow.
Watch out with tagging so many people, that can get you muted

[vernal estuary]

Have you updates game in epic store... or app store... or tried on both pc and mobile 😉

[tardy falcon]

It's not local... it's server side. tried on multiple devices and operating systems.

Team is aware of the isssue affecting multiple users

[vernal estuary]

Ok, that sucks... waiting on tickets is a pita... , I didn't know how new or old you were to game so just made some suggestions is all

[tardy falcon]

just waiting on fix

[tardy falcon]

appreciate it

[timber sapphire]

aight ill take a look

[tardy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/haipawa-soom-slow-grandpa-gif-15432287

[flat steeple]

I’ll take a look after the bar 🍻

[harsh acorn]

Nice

[vagrant mirage]

hi is there anyone having this issue error 500 code?

i cant play the game for three days already

[crimson plaza]

Yes I agree very annoying

[unborn pilot]

Anyone know what the output is on the highest tier fuel extractor and converter?

[orchid isle]

Converter 3 53 at 150

To your first point:

Ceil(1.5 * 0.7 * 10) = 11
Ceil(1.5 * 0.7 * 20) = 21
Ceil(1.5 * 0.7 * 50) = 53

[brave wasp]

Is there a way to switch Daily Goals? Both of my plots have Daily Goals that require me to extract a resource that plot doesn't have. They also don't change at the end of the day. Normally I wouldn't worry about it but the Weekly Mission is to complete Daily Goals... lol

[mossy sorrel]

not as of right now.. but i think allowing 1 reset would be kinda cool

[inland shore]

Fuel is cheap as hell lol

[mossy sorrel]

compared to what it was originally set as... but not cheap enough so people will buy

[timber cloak]

What are the suggestions to make the yield of fuel higher

[tardy falcon]

Similar... haven't been able to play my t4 for almost a week now. So much fuel, biodata, upgrade time lost...
Submit a support ticket. Follow up on it. Keep some pressure on so you don't get lost.

[vagrant mirage]

yeah bud, going down on rank and not being able to play the game is so frustrating. we should look into it and find people that does have the same error and look for similar things and not to depend on the devs lol

[tardy falcon]

You can ping theodore. He has been collecting users with load issues.

also submit a ticket

[vagrant mirage]

sure

[vagrant mirage]

going to

[dry peak]

Have you tried without VPN? It was causing issues for me

[nocturne lodge]

Is it possible to mint blueprints currently? I have the transducer but don't see any option for minting.

[vivid cipher]

Looks like land owners are starting to sell fuel. It’s off the top rail.

[vivid cipher]

I’ll ask.

[nocturne lodge]

Appreciate it.

[little moon]

Does anyone else have a bug where a mine won't let you mine. Just keeps saying Info and you know you aren't currently mining so it just won't do anything

[vivid cipher]

Did you buy this land recently?

[little moon]

Yes about an hour ago

[lean comet]

Yes when you buy a land recently. Only way to fix is to reset

[little moon]

RESET WHAT?

[serene iris]

How is it off the top rail? The price vs eth is the same... just eth keeps dropping in value.

I'm a little confused on what price to set for selling my fuel.

I set a price below the current market average and it doesn't sell? So people are obviously selling cheaper than me and I need to lower my price, but there is no way to know what they are selling it for so it's a guessing game.

Add to it that you can't use your own fuel to play the game you have to sell it and rebuy, I may as well just burn 25% of the fuel.

This system needs some quality of life updates

[little moon]

My land came with buildings and nexus 3

[vivid cipher]

Probably not worth resetting. But up to you I guess.

[lean comet]

Your land. Start from scatch.

[little moon]

Yeah forget it. No way.

This is a bug that needs attention. I'm not resetting a level 30 land

Unless team gives me 120 free speed up coins

[lean comet]

That what I had to do

[little moon]

Hotdam

[vivid cipher]

Ah. Stupid eth broke my mind.

My bad.

I agree that the fuel selling is weird. I placed a fuel sell order below the market price.

I then bought fuel. Paying market price.

My below market price is still not sold. It’s obviously an issue of some kind.

[lean comet]

Did you but the t3 land

[vernal estuary]

damn fuel price just dropped,

nevermind... it was ETH that dropped.

[little moon]

Nah just a T1 I'm borrowing from a mate. There are 2 silicon mines so it doesn't really matter but still

[lean comet]

Honetly reset it. Level 30 is about a day or so to catch up

[serene iris]

I'd love to see something official on what is happening here its a pretty big bottleneck in the gameplay loop and since we can't use our own fuel we need a clear way to sell so we can rebuy

[vernal estuary]

damn, eth dropped $800 today

[lean comet]

Yea sucks

[vernal estuary]

Wonder why tho

[tardy falcon]

my guess... war worries and economy

[thorny crater]

thats to bad lol

Does anyone have the cost per upgrade/ building by chance? i cant see to find it but i could have sworn i seen a picture or something about it

Who knows it might be on ther list of to-dos but more at the bottom.

for me my biggest concern is sign-up and making purchases. its to hard for the average consumer .

[inland nebula]

As land owner, Is there a way to check the points we have earned so far by playing the zero game?

[mossy sorrel]

not much... basically, only a few hundred a day if you were able to complete quests

[inland nebula]

Do we need to sign up for the quest upfront?

[mossy sorrel]

no, you just get daily quests, go to your profile page, select missions / zero, you'll see them there

[inland nebula]

Thank you.

[shut wave]

So I have placed sale orders at .0000050 and yet its still not selling. Wasnt there a cap on how low can land owners go? If there are no limits then no one will know what the lowest price is and there will be a free fall and land will be worth very little!

[mossy sorrel]

like i said, there's no demand, nobody's playing right now, no matter how low you set your price, it won't sell

[little moon]

Yeah

Mate just put it in my passport

[thorny crater]

does it have to be reset with transfer?

[little moon]

I doubt it. Wait for them to fix and confirm this. But my friend transferred his and it arrived with everything in tact

[thorny crater]

true. i played a little but i stopped when i was 30 mins in and didnt see one illuvial lol

[tardy falcon]

price can go very low if there are no buyers and only sellers

[mossy sorrel]

progress follows the land

[shut wave]

Is there a place where you can see player engagement?

[mossy sorrel]

not that i know of

[grand silo]

Pool Masters beta has just gone live and all of my assets are read only in Passport reading 102 nfts. Everything is working fine so it mustnt be far away for our land as well

[mossy sorrel]

someone somewhere posted a graph of different wallets owning illuvium assets, but i forgotwhere

[little moon]

My speed up coins seem to increase. Do I get them from leveling up?

[mossy sorrel]

yes you do

it tells you how many you got when you reach a certain level

[little moon]

Sweet

[young nacelle]

if spent upgrades on 3 builders,
after reset the land, still have the builders?

[mossy sorrel]

not sure.. but why would you want to reset land?

[little moon]

Hope so. God that would suck

[young nacelle]

not me,
I'm helping to ask on behalf. 😅

[mossy sorrel]

hm...

[young nacelle]

yeah, I didn't reply yet.
is a risk there.

[mossy sorrel]

i'd just move it to the side and forget about it till they fix it personally...

maybe you can recommend that to him

support team is overloaded atm probably won't be getting back to him in days

[little moon]

Yeah they're doing their best. Just give it time and for the love of God don't reset shit

[mossy sorrel]

hahaha resetting would never be worth it imo

only reason why i would use the reset button right now is on the f2p plot once i reach level 201, to get more coins

[young nacelle]

If they still hiring, let's go haha!

[mossy sorrel]

haha at the rate the game is going.. i doubt they will be

[young nacelle]

but it works well if building stuck there soon after bought it from another owner.
just make sure don't buy any credit or builder 😅
Happen to my 2nd land, I just reset it. magic works.

[mossy sorrel]

heh

[thorny crater]

i had to reset my t3

i thought it was talked about years ago that selling would reset land but i cant find it...so idk if its a bug or not

[mossy sorrel]

no.. there was always a plan to do some sort of build land as a service of some kind, where you can buy a new plot, build it up and sell it

so it was always supposed to keep everything

[thorny crater]

ah i might have been mistaken

oh yeah thah i knew

got all them blue prints lol

dang ran into two holos in one fight lol

[lean bison]

Any one knows why I don't get any biodata??? it's been three times in raw now

What should I do?

[thorny crater]

Yeah i have a scanner but wil not use it for a good min. not till i got more fuel coming in

update fuel productions/nexus to lvl 7 do this first

102 buildings allowed at that lvl

[waxen turret]

When you toggle A Pump on repeat how can you turn this feature off

[mossy sorrel]

activities, production at the bottom

[waxen turret]

🤌🏽🫵🏽💪🏽🙏🏽

[neon light]

Do others also see the issue that fuel that is listed for sale is not removed from the game UI ?

[mossy sorrel]

it's always been like that, it gets locked up so you can't use it, only leaves your account once the order has been filled

[neon light]

oh that is lame imo and confusing

back to grinding regardless

🧑‍🏭

[mossy sorrel]

what if your order doesn't fill.. they have to add it back...

actually gives you an unlimited storage space for fuel if it was deducted and then reimbursed

haha

[neon light]

this is what I want :))_

on a more serioius note, we need a better indicator in the UI for this. Like fuel that is in the game + highlight the amount of fuel that is on the DEX

[mossy sorrel]

never really got to use the marketplace during testing... so i don't know

[mossy sorrel]

yes that would help, helps you keep track of which lands have listen fuel when you're playing several plots

[topaz thunder]

What is the average time it takes to sell on the market?

[neon light]

I tried to sell for many hours at the market place and didnt fill. Listed a bit below now

[dry peak]

At the moment it's ages

[mossy sorrel]

right now.. unlimited...

[neon light]

how am I supposed to retire as a land lord if cant sell the fuel

[dry peak]

A couple of days ago it was very quick

[neon light]

we need an infinite buy order from the team

print moneys

now

[young nacelle]

many question looking for answer

[mossy sorrel]

we need new arena mode and usecase for illuvials... and needs to be fun for it to pick back up

[topaz thunder]

It's been a few hours and it's not sold yet

Stock is full

[mossy sorrel]

people aren't buying...

keep upgrading your storage in the mean time

not much else you can do atm

[dusky osprey]

My orders are 3 days old and they are still there.. so helpless 🥲

[young nacelle]

I have a feeling we becoming a tester since main net launch which is not supposed to be.
where are all the past 3 years infos we all have about zero 🥹

Let's keep building and grinding,
Share any info we have found and keep questioning 🎶

[topaz thunder]

Ha, buyer's market

[sharp mist]

Hey guys I’m looking to buy my first tier 1 land. Are any plots better than others? Anything I should look out for?

[mossy sorrel]

look for plots that have all 3 elements

it will make your life a hell of a lot easier

as for the fuel, pick whichever one you like best

[young nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/way-more-expensive-lofe-so-pricey-its-so-expensive-that-costs-a-lot-gif-26252220

[topaz thunder]

The output of the land cannot be used when playing OVERWORLD by yourself?

[mossy sorrel]

are they now? haha, haven't been keeping up with the prices lately

[young nacelle]

no, just sell the output only
let's hope there are some changes soon...

[mossy sorrel]

not right now, i just posted in feedback a few hours ago so our fuel don't go to waste.. we'll see if anybody from the team reads it and does something about it

[young nacelle]

bitcoin price drop affect others too.
so I'm surprise the ILV price drop a lot yesterday actually.
good opportunity to buy but also..hmmm
better do some research ^^;
no financial advice ~.~

[fleet jacinth]

i found my land how to i send it to my passport account?

[brave wasp]

Damn that's disappointing. Big part of why I wanted land was to be self sufficient. Hopefully that changes 😦

[mossy sorrel]

hahaha

[fleet jacinth]

LUL

i got a dm from some scammer in 1s

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[fleet jacinth]

they are efficient

[mossy sorrel]

log into your illuvium account, go to profile, passport, transfer in, assisted transfer

[fleet jacinth]

got added from (Aaron_Illuvium LUL

thanks J i forgot since yesterday sorry brother

[mossy sorrel]

wouldn't have been a problem if there was demand, just sell and rebuy...

[vivid cipher]

Probably this https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10286692776591-Guide-for-users-who-skipped-the-migration-from-old-account-system

Skip right to step two to transfer the nfts.

[topaz thunder]

lol, can’t sell it!

[fleet jacinth]

this isnt even my wallet address wtf

but i have this account

this needs to be way more straight forward if the games to go mainstream

this is such a headfuck with the possibility to send my asset to the wrong place lol

[mossy sorrel]

most people who join won't have a second wallet.. so they skip this problem altogether

[fleet jacinth]

hmm i hope so

[mossy sorrel]

if you use the illuvium website to do everything, you can't send to the wrong place

[vivid cipher]

It’s your passport account. It’s a wallet.

[fleet jacinth]

do i migrate my legacy account?

[mossy sorrel]

@vivid ciphercan you ask if they can make something in the fuel selling UI so we can just transfer to our account? at this point, we can't even sell and rebuy...

[fleet jacinth]

i setup this account a year ago when i wasnt sure if illuvium was safe so i wouldnt lose my 16eth nft collection on main awllet

it was a safety precaution

thats why i have seperate accounts

[mossy sorrel]

yeah, wouldn't be the same when onboarding web2 users

[fleet jacinth]

can i connect my wallet to my OG passport?

[mossy sorrel]

and they'll get used to using the website

[fleet jacinth]

or should i send the asset to my OG wallet

[mossy sorrel]

you have several passport addresses?

[fleet jacinth]

and then connect passport

its asking me to connect passport

[mossy sorrel]

use whichever one you want to use

[fleet jacinth]

gotcha

[mossy sorrel]

you can only connect passport now

can't use any other wallets right now

soon there will be a link that can be created so you don't need all assets in passport

[fleet jacinth]

it gave me a new passport wallet

this shits so confusing

so each metamask wallet contains a seperate passport wallet

[mossy sorrel]

metamask wallets don't give you passport wallets

metamask wallet will get an IMX wallet of the same address

where as passport wallets are created with email

[fleet jacinth]

i logged on with my existing passport email

but it gave me a different address

super confusing stuff

i was expecting it to be my old passport address

[mossy sorrel]

are you talking about IMX address or passport address... you're confising.. haha

[fleet jacinth]

i had a metamask and passport address that was the same

[mossy sorrel]

you can't log in with your old addresses anymore, everything uses passport.. which is your email

[fleet jacinth]

connected to an existing email

and now on a different metamask im trying to migrate via email passport

the assets

[misty rock]

Hi for the fuel exchange marketplace.

Did the Dev make an official announcement how it work?

I watch on a few video explaining that when land owner sell fuel. The DAO actually x9 time that amount of fuel and sell off to players. This sale proceed will go towards stacking and other rewards.

[fleet jacinth]

but it gave me a new wallet and passport

[mossy sorrel]

no metamask and passport can't be the same.. they're different wallets.. you can get an IMX wallet... that's not passport wallet

[jagged narwhal]

Any issues reported for the IZ app on iOS? I haven't been able to get by the splash screen for a week now, removed and re-installed a couple times and still no dice.

[fleet jacinth]

gotcha

so i accidently made a passport wallet

[misty rock]

Can we buy fuel for use in Land Plot?

[fleet jacinth]

but i wanna use my IMX wallet

[mossy sorrel]

you can't right now

you can only use passport now

i think it's to make it easier for new users

[fleet jacinth]

okay good to know

so i need to make a passport wallet

[mossy sorrel]

they assume old users who already bought assets should know enough web3 stuff to figure it out, but they're wrong

[fleet jacinth]

dead wrong LUL

[mossy sorrel]

yes you need a passport...

[fleet jacinth]

passport stuffs new to me

i

[mossy sorrel]

did you play during testing phase?

[fleet jacinth]

im fine with non L2 stuff

yeah

i got all the blueprints

[mossy sorrel]

so you already have a passport

no wait, during airdrop preseasons i mean

actually, if you were able to log in, you should already have a passport address... it was a code sent to your email right?

[mossy sorrel]

no, fuel only goes out of land, not in

[fleet jacinth]

so this wallet is l2 and my other one is l1?

or its just l2 IMX and l2 passport

and for ym assets to show on illuvium i need to legacy transfer/

[mossy sorrel]

IMX is L2... there's no L2 passport, the whole thing is already on layer 2

[fleet jacinth]

yeah i realised that mid sentence

[mossy sorrel]

haha

[fleet jacinth]

i will give you some ILV for your assistance

just bare with me J

[mossy sorrel]

did you log in using code?

all good bud, i know it can be hard

[fleet jacinth]

so to access passport its via email but for transactions its via metamask/

to confirm/deny?

[mossy sorrel]

nope

[fleet jacinth]

its all via email?

[mossy sorrel]

yes, passport and metamask wallets are different wallets

[fleet jacinth]

and thats more secure LMAO

[mossy sorrel]

metamask signatures can only control your current IMX assets

[vivid cipher]

No. It makes the game playable.

[fleet jacinth]

an email account is more secure than metamask, what a joke

at least we're aware of this

[vivid cipher]

Nothing indicates that it’s more secure.

[fleet jacinth]

when making a wallet

it was boasting how it's more secure to make a passport

that's what im referencing

[mossy sorrel]

it's also not not-secure

if you enable 2fa authentication to log in to your email... it greatly increases the safety... just like your binance or coinbase app... you don't find those not secure...

[fleet jacinth]

this is a double edged sword in the gaming space

[vivid cipher]

FYI there is an upcoming feature that will allow a secondary wallet (your metamask) to be linked to your passport.

[fleet jacinth]

i've always believed this team has common sense im glad to hear it's on the way

we've never had gaming assets worth heaps of money attached to mere emails without centralised restoration of assets when hacked

so its good they're re prioritising security

[mossy sorrel]

yeah, the decision to use passport is definitely for onboarding new users

[fleet jacinth]

i like the idea for onboarding normies like me XD

[mossy sorrel]

i only turned on 2fa after i transfered assets to my passport

[fleet jacinth]

but when theres lots of money on the line security intrinsically matters

yeah very smart choice

i gotta make 2 email addresses interlocked for just this land now

[mossy sorrel]

haha

[quartz salmon]

Can someone explain the fuel market to me? My confusion is that you can place limit order on the sell side, but on the buy side there aren't limit orders. How does that allow for price discovery?

[fleet jacinth]

not your keys not your crypto 😄

but i like the optionality to allow both simultaneously

normies cna eventually switch for better security in their own time

thats deffs the way to go

[gritty grove]

hello sirs. is there a reward for play zero?

[fleet jacinth]

you are rewarded with dopamine

Agent J

what is your your wallet of choice?

[mossy sorrel]

the buy price corresponds to lowest list price. or average, or something..

[fleet jacinth]

i believe in rewarding thos who

rare helpful

are*

[mossy sorrel]

hahaha what's this

[fleet jacinth]

me being a dickhead

😛

i think you can actually sell the in game resources and blueprints

[gritty grove]

so this dopamine thing. how can i get this? or can i get this thru the game?

[fleet jacinth]

not sure if we can as of now

[mossy sorrel]

currently only daily quests

[gritty grove]

okay sir thanks

[mossy sorrel]

you can get some by helping kargas

[fleet jacinth]

would you like .5 ILV as a thank you?

[mossy sorrel]

apparently

[fleet jacinth]

if so send me your address

[mossy sorrel]

hahaha, there's no need bud, just here to help

let me know if there's anything else you need

[fleet jacinth]

.94?

[mossy sorrel]

lawlz

[fleet jacinth]

i dont have a whole ILV on this wallet but that's the best i can do

[gritty grove]

one last thing. what can we do about zero? is there a pvp on it? or just mine and upgrade the buildings?

[fleet jacinth]

i got it for finding a bug within the land game

gifted from Lord Rich himself

[mossy sorrel]

oh? interesting

[fleet jacinth]

im not as dim as i sim

just airing on the side of caution to avoid any unknown variables

[mossy sorrel]

ofcourse, always the way to go

web3 still has a long way to go

[fleet jacinth]

indeed!

what have i done XD

[mossy sorrel]

try migrating first if it's your new passport address

but i think it was mentioned you'll have a hard time if you went for log in first...

-_-

[fleet jacinth]

yeah i logged in first

should i just manually send it to my passport address via token trove?

should be fine right

[gritty grove]

hello guys. how to obtain referral code?

[fleet jacinth]

good question i need a referral code too XD

im gonna try figure that out next

[mossy sorrel]

you could.. but i wouldn't do that just yet

make sure you can log in to the website using passport first

[fleet jacinth]

it wont let me OG migrate with this wallet anymore

its linked to passport now

it keeps popping up with that error message

should i do an assisted transfer

the second log in to my passport account didn't even require a log in code

[mossy sorrel]

yeah, if your log in times are close together, it won't keep asking

try assisted transfer, it's easy

although i think you need to transfer everything

[fleet jacinth]

okay

i can log into the account consistently

can i do a TT transfer?

manual just isn't an option anymore

or assisted

via the legacy menu since i logged in without doing that first

this would be better right assisted?

dafuq

[mossy sorrel]

what are you using?

assisted would scan your assets

if you're comfortable doing transfers with tokentrove you can use that also

[fleet jacinth]

seems to be working now

[fleet jacinth]

woohoo thank you so much for your patience and guidance @mossy sorrel ❤️

[shell stratus]

I why can’t I upgrade this

Is it a glitch

[fleet jacinth]

is your worker busy building something else?

[shell stratus]

No

[fleet jacinth]

hmm that's odd

[shell stratus]

Yeah it’s fucking annoying

Contacted support

[quick stump]

How to earn in this game?

[mossy sorrel]

enjoy bud

[mossy sorrel]

you may have activated the airdrop?

go to activities at the bottom, production, find nexus and cancel your airdrop

[shell stratus]

Yes how to deactivate it

[shell stratus]

@mossy sorrel it’s not there

[mossy sorrel]

then you should be able to upgrade

[shell stratus]

I know

It won’t let me

Is it a a bug

[mossy sorrel]

what doi you get when you click on nexus?

[shell stratus]

This is what it says

[mossy sorrel]

so it goes directly to info...

[shell stratus]

Yep

[mossy sorrel]

close game and open it again?

[shell stratus]

Did that

Uninstalled as well

[mossy sorrel]

hm... what device are you playing on?

[shell stratus]

Tried on pc and phone

[mossy sorrel]

hm... perhaps there's an issue with the plot then...

[shell stratus]

Yes

It’s a tier 1

That’s it

I opened a ticket

[mossy sorrel]

TBH, i think resetting the land and starting over will probably allow you to progress quicker than waiting for support

[shell stratus]

Like starting over?

[mossy sorrel]

it's annoying to start over on a T1 though

yeah

[shell stratus]

I wasted so many coins can’t

Will support fix the issue

Spent like $50 of coins on it

[mossy sorrel]

ah i see

not sure what support will do, unsure what kind of bug it is so i don't know

[shell stratus]

They have to fix it man

[vivid cipher]

I certainly hope the devs can fix this issue without needing to reset entire plots.

[shell stratus]

If they reset my plot they allow me coins

Owe me coins

[vivid cipher]

Right?!?

[shell stratus]

I spent $50 on coins prolly more

They should right where’s the mod?

[vivid cipher]

The devs will have the exact coin spend.

[shell stratus]

They will re emberse right

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-no-awkward-gif-3488416697885740056

[vivid cipher]

I have no idea what the plan is.

[shell stratus]

This school sucks

[vivid cipher]

Still pretty early stages in addressing the issue.

[shell stratus]

Yea

[gentle portal]

hi guys i manage to buy a tier 2 land but it suppose to have 6 element site and i only have 5. i cant seem to find the other outcrop site. can u guys help me locate it or is this some form of a bug?

[stoic wigeon]

I have issues with Solon Convertor

He doesn’t passive generate Solon

Does someone know solution?

[young nacelle]

is this your original built?

[gentle portal]

yes my original its reset

but really i lack 1 outcrop site

[young nacelle]

last time you clear the plant?
I'm asking because.. any question might unlock something

[gentle portal]

clear plant? what u mean sir

[young nacelle]

these, red underline.

[gentle portal]

i didnt clear a plant

i need to clear the plants and an outcrop will appear?

[young nacelle]

oh, why not?

[gentle portal]

cause im starting again

[young nacelle]

Idk, there can be anything block the view.
happen to other project I'm mod and review.

[gentle portal]

i cant find this spot

upper right sir

[young nacelle]

btw, while asking here, make sure raise your issue at #❓❓〕support 🙂
take time, can understand.

[fleet jacinth]

qaulity of life update would be right clicking to remove paths rather than switching from add/remove path

[gentle portal]

thank msyenn for replying to me

[young nacelle]

Your welcome.
didn't really help your issue much 🥲

[gentle portal]

its here in the plant

its bug

[young nacelle]

yeah, but able to build on it?

I hope won't be a trouble tho.

[gentle portal]

yes it was hiding ahaha

[vivid cipher]

No. It’s just behind it.

[young nacelle]

how do you see it?
if you scroll up, not appear at all
Have some kind of scanner eye? :D

[vivid cipher]

I looked at the layout. It had to be there. And the topmost leaves of the plant looked too dark. Maybe they weren’t leaves at all.

[dim stream]

Anybody maxed out a fuel extractor yet? Wanting to know how much it produces.

[fleet jacinth]

i love your name LOL

[shell stratus]

It even says it here @mossy sorrel ain

[mossy sorrel]

hm.. that's screwed up..

[vivid cipher]

Ooo that’s a good image to add to the bug report thread about this transferred land issue

[tardy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/donowall-gif-23654124

[fleet jacinth]

as a streamer BIG Qaulity of life would be hide my email address im gonna get spammed with scam emails bc i need to go into settings every now and then

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

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Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[foggy sage]

How come when i click on my crypton extractor it only shows one button which is info

Am i just fucked do i gotta restart plot ?

[young nacelle]

because is operating?
Oh wait, you just bought?

[foggy sage]

Its not in operation

Its doing nothing and i cant do anything with it

[young nacelle]

I see,
you bought it with structure inside?

[low igloo]

Can I transfer fuels from my free plot to overworld? I am lil bit confused l.

[young nacelle]

no. only can sell at the moment.
maybe soon... we don't know yet .

[low igloo]

But the selling fuels are only possible from lands we bought from marketplace only l think

[vagrant heron]

Yes fuel can only be sold from bought lands

[bitter glade]

It won’t reset your progress, no.

[nova epoch]

Is it still normal to not see any pre-season hours logged in the history tab for Zero players?

[neon light]

Why is the purchase price larger than my active listing ?
Is my listing excluded for me to buy or do others see the same ?

[shut wave]

@mossy sorrel @bitter glade i also have this question. It seems thebuying price is higher and the selling price can be lower than purchase price. Also wasnt there supposed to be a negative and positive variance cap of 10% on fuel sale price to protect landowners from free falling fuel prices?

[serene iris]

@bitter glade is there some kind of clarity coming ro the fuel market?

I dont want to sound salty, but there seems to be an issue between the buy and sell price? It's pretty bad that land holders not only can't use there own fuel yet but also can't sell the fuel to rebuy it and use in game?

I think there are a tonne of people with this issue

[bitter glade]

A lower rail would hurt landholders. Not protect them.

[topaz thunder]

Guys, have you sold the fuel produced on your land? I can’t sell the fuel I produce, so what’s the point of the landowner buying the land? I can't even use the fuel produced on my own land.

[serene iris]

From what I can work out, it does sell if you set it low enough... the issue seems to be there is no way to know what price to set it

Either way land holders should have the right to just use there own fuel instead of selling it if they are not happy with the market prices

Forcing them to go through the market when they can't sell feels very scamy

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[topaz thunder]

Does illuiuvm set 5% of fuel to be generated from land and 95% of fuel to be sold by the government?

[glacial vector]

Is there any guide or pinned posts how to sell our fuels from our land?

[serene iris]

For every 5 sell on the market they sell an extra 95, you keep the funds from the 5 and the other 95 are sent to the dao

[topaz thunder]

Understood

[bitter glade]

Yes. This has been the design from the beginning. Without it the DAO can’t generate revenue.

It is obvious that we wouldn’t develop land just so that the DAO could instantly be bankrupted.

As for the difference in prices, are you referring to slippage?

[young nacelle]

Zendesk showing how to buy fuel only as I see.
but generally just select sell by after selecting your own plot.

Visit this link;
https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10284874160399-How-to-Buy-Fuel-on-the-Fuel-Exchange

[serene iris]

I set the price below the average price listed here. Took 24 hours didn't sell a single thing.

So how are we to know what price to set? We have to guess how much to undercut the market to sell

[topaz thunder]

Landowners support communities and communities should value landowners.

[pearl marten]

Hi @bitter glade
So it is confirmed that also blueprints, biodata and builders are getting transferred too if we decide to move land back to cold storage?

Also a few other notes/feedback:

1. There are discrepancies with building costs: Research lab and Scanner cost 20 fuel crypton/hyperion while Data Bank cost 200 solon - shouldn't it be either all 20 or 200?

2. Fuel storages for lvl 4 require 30 fuel but the Solon container requires 45

3. My first 4 biodata on a Halcyion Sea plot were earth Illuvials which should've been like 1% - seems the % per region for illuvial affinity isn't live yet?

[shut wave]

I see your point.

[near tusk]

Helping people get bonus fuel

But you’ll most likely have to edit the price

[bitter glade]

Yes. That is confirmed. We are testing now to make sure there are no bugs but keeping land in the same passport account and just moving the nft to secondary wallet won’t reset progress.

As for the other things I’ll look into any bugs that might be causing it. .

[serene iris]

Thanks for the info!

[topaz thunder]

Price cannot be changed

[near tusk]

Click the little pencil edit button next to the @

[bitter glade]

1. No. That is intended.
2. That seems like a bug.
3. Could be a coincidence but I’ll check.

[topaz thunder]

Found it, thank you

[nocturne lodge]

What about blueprints? There doesn't seem to be a way to mint them currently.

[near tusk]

For point number 3, I had the same issue

[pearl marten]

Thank you for confirming.

And another thing(this might be intended i'm not sure)

The extractor output on a T3 at 150%:
Lvl 4 -> 75
Lvl 5 -> 210
Lvl 6 -> 300
So the increase is bigger from 4 to 5 ? And a lvl 6 upgrade costs 500 fuel which is pretty expensive...
Or is it that on lvl 6 the production time doesn't increase anymore (it stays at 24hr like it is at lvl5 already) ?

[next juniper]

I don’t think you guys understand that the price you are trying to sell your fuel at may not be a good price a few minutes or hours later because the average prices keep dropping. The markets are dropping extremely right now which makes it difficult to determine a price to sell at. Unless you really want to undercut the average sell price to guarantee yours sells.

[bitter glade]

It’s not scammy. It was part of the system to ensure security when fuel was an erc 20. It was designed to keep things safe. Then we moved to non erc20 fuel which allowed us much more safety.

And now we just need to build the feature. It’s on the list but just below the critical bugs and the testing for secondary wallets. But it is coming.

[pearl marten]

Also i can't use my alpha blueprints.. can't see them in the forge as many others. Might be also a bug (i've already created tickets for this)

[autumn island]

I have been trying 0.00000245 eth but not moving. You seem to have lots holding, we need to find out the market rates to reset the selling price according

[topaz thunder]

So when I sell my fuel, do I need a slippage?

[autumn island]

No sloppage, no fees

[topaz thunder]

The problem now is that the land produces fuel that cannot be sold.

[next juniper]

You determine the price. If you want your fuel to take priority, you have to lower your price below the current average selling price. I think about a 10-20% lower than the average selling price should get your fuel sold faster.

[topaz thunder]

Unless you offer a price you can't refuse?

[neon light]

@bitter glade would you have preferred that we have an AMM for trading fuel if balancer was running on Starkware@Immutable ? Or would you have picked the current Order book based system regardless

[bitter glade]

Current system regardless.

[topaz thunder]

I don’t know how the transaction was completed.

[bitter glade]

One of the issues right now is that we still have a few problems we are sorting out with the other games. Once these get done fuel will start to stabilise.

[serene iris]

I appreciate the info, I am at peace just knowing it's on the list of things to implement.

I know your busy as hell right now, but perhaps a list of all the things that are coming soon or not quite finished developing would clear up the confusion.

[topaz thunder]

aha, I need a lot of fuel storage tanks for storage.

[autumn island]

Lower price move the order higher in the queue. We can only guess where is the top of the queue at the moment. It would be nice if the transactions are public so we can decide easier what price to sell.

[bitter glade]

@patent zealot <@&834027929058803712>

Please make this a priority today. We need this on the website and not just in discord. For all games.

[topaz thunder]

Or try using very low prices?

[patent zealot]

Noted. 👌

[autumn island]

I don't want to make it too low neither, might crash the price to much lower than what it should be.

[north mirage]

$45k BTC incoming? 🤭 going to buy a bunch when alts finally bleed lower. It's going to be a bargain 😉

[north mirage]

You'll get a bunch of front runner bots if you could see haha

[autumn island]

true, annoying bots...

I have just tried purchasing at 0.0000026, and the history shows it's completed at 0.0000026. However, my selling order at 0.00000245 was not moved.

Does it mean it skipped the lower price and completed at a higher price?

[neon light]

@bitter glade something not right here. Fuel producers staying poor for ever

I have listings at 0.0000025 also not sold

[bitter glade]

Will check it out.

[neon light]

the pricing in the UI also is lagging, observing this now for a few hours

purchase for hyperion and crypton should be 0.0059 (due to my listings) or cheaper (if others listed even lower)

[bitter glade]

Was this sILV2?

[autumn island]

maybe 1 fuel is too little to test it out?

[autumn island]

eth

This is my selling order.

[pearl marten]

@bitter glade maybe you've missed this (sorry for pinging you again)
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[open stratus]

Like a few hours ago

[bitter glade]

Intended. If you think the balance is off you can make a thread about it and we can take a look.

I didn’t do the balancing for IZ so I don’t want to speak out of turn.

[bitter glade]

Investigating.

[open stratus]

@bitter glade why can't we make megacities diagonally connect ? Plz ?

[bitter glade]

You mean like a string of 9 all on a diagonal?

[open stratus]

5/9 of my neighbors are f ing water

Even a T shape would suffice

[pearl marten]

Okay thanks.
And will do but i haven't reached Extractor 6 yet. The upgrade cost seems a bit steep vs the increase in output but will see once i get there

[bitter glade]

It’s not the intention to have megacities be like this. Again, if you disagree you can make a thread. The idea was that we wanted position to be something that matters a lot.

[bitter glade]

Let’s see what you end up doing. If you upgrade, seems like it is not too expensive.

[open stratus]

I mean they're still connected. Just in the only way possible that's a little oddly shaped

[bitter glade]

I understand. But the more shapes we make possible the harder features are to develop (minor issue) and the less important having prime positioning it (major issue)

[open stratus]

Really so a square is really the only option

[unreal oak]

any idea how long will this season last? how long before the next wipe out of land?

[patent zealot]

We will be not be resetting the plots in the future.

[pearl marten]

since i still 'have' you here 😄 and willing to answer questions ... this might not be directly involving IL:z but any details about why alpha BPs don't work for many people? And why isn't there an illuvial cost for creating a skin?

[unreal oak]

really?? thats good news! thanks

[bitter glade]

It’s not the only option. It’s the only planned option. If you want it changed then propose it in the ideas section.

[bitter glade]

It’s getting worked on right now.

[pearl marten]

Also changing the shape of MCs now would greatly affect the current landowners - it wasn't easy to hunt down missing plots and neither cheap

[pearl marten]

Thank you!!

[bitter glade]

That’s the point. I wouldn’t want to change it unless there was very good reason.

We are also getting closer to working on making IZ 3d so you can see your plot up close and such. Plus it should speed up development. Won’t look quite as nice in some ways will look better in others.

T shaped plots could be tricky then.

[young nacelle]

I'm reading actually, sorry Aaron.
May I ask 3d ...like allow landowner to rotate? something like that?

[bitter glade]

Yeah. As in rendered in 3d rather than being 2d.

We already create all assets in 3d. But then we render them to 2d.

I’m not sure about “finally”. This was never even planned.

[young nacelle]

oh, is landowner wish, Aaron.
Looking at our land from different view.. imagine that.

[open stratus]

No I get that, but some people got hand tied even by mint.

[young nacelle]

is alright, I delete that. thanks for explain. 👍

[bitter glade]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-okay-slide-gif-15172486

[young nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/when-wen-naru-yummi-yummi-universe-gif-23030317

[pearl marten]

Thanks for stopping by 😄

[young nacelle]

[timber cloak]

What are the suggestions to make the yield of fuel higher

[pure fable]

it should really stay 2x2 and 3x3 square since people bought that for a lot of money 2 years ago
thanks for your fantastic work btw!

[open stratus]

68 t3s and 24 t4s that have NO possibility of ever becoming a megacity (from the 3 areas that I looked at quickly.)
Imagine minting some t4 land only to find out it has limited utility because of RNG

[bitter glade]

Ok no more pings for me please. I am dying over here. Eyeballs bleeding.

[serene iris]

When the auction happened you could pick a plot to bid on, then mint it. The position never changed. So basically you would have know what was next to it.

[open stratus]

Idk just kinda silly to limit it IMO. If it's connected by a horizontal or vertical (ie directly adjacent) it should be fair game

[serene iris]

When they release future plots those plots may be able to make mega cities.

To be fair they are pretty damn rare anyway

[topaz thunder]

When my quote reached 0.0000024, it was filled a little

[open stratus]

That's my point, and a lot of land with the current criteria can never get one.
Plus this will alleviate a lot of the pain of having 8/9 and either an unresponsive or unreasonable 9th owner

[serene iris]

Well im never likely to own a 3x3 plot... but who knows maybe 1 day I can be that unreasonable owner holding up a 3x3

"My granddaddy was born here... I ain't movin"

[open stratus]

Yeah me either. In the grand scheme of things I doubt it changes much. Just gives you the option down the road should you want to try

Or the opportunity presents itself

[hollow sage]

hi guys! if i buy a land for 250 bucks how fast and how much fuel can i make / day?

[mossy sorrel]

buying a T1 won't be generating a decent amount of fuel to be selling for a few months

you'll need the fuel to upgrade your land, i'd say a good 3 months before you can start generating about a dollar a day

[north mirage]

Why do you say that?

[mossy sorrel]

it would take you weeks to get enough hyperion to upgrade your nexus to level 9..

without nexus 9, you won't be able to upgrade your extractor and converters to the max to be able to generate a decent amount of fuel

so yeah, i'd say a good 3 to 6 months before you start selling

but once you do, even if you only sell 6 months worth for the first year, you'd be gettin an ROI of 50

%

some would say a dollar a day is shit... but nobody sane would say 50% return / year is...

ofcourse, that's considering fuel prices don't go to 0..

[vast egret]

is illuviumdex down?

trying to logon with no luck

[opal thistle]

I just used, it's working for me

[opal thistle]

clear coockies and cache

or try a different browser

[uneven pulsar]

guys can i sell my resources from land for current users? I mean can i send order for players from my guild

[open stratus]

@mossy sorrel what about t3

[mossy sorrel]

T3 would be much better, i'd say you can start making some money after 2 weeks, and slowly ramp up

[open stratus]

Ita tough without being able to buy credits on illuvidex

[mossy sorrel]

you can buy using iphone or android

[solar swallow]

When I sell fuel as land owner for 0.0056 and then I buy for price that is gaiven to me by default (I guess) and it's 0.006 for example, what happens with the difference?

As T4 land owner that have it to play the game I generate around like 4,5-5k fuel probably and I see it very unpleasant to get same amount of fuel into my passport to play overworld

[rotund forum]

If you buy credits I just noticed it is about 10% cheaper on IOS than Android. Weird, usually is other way around

[solar swallow]

Is there some way to make it easier atm? Like how can I check recent prices at which it was recently sold and bought by useres?

[vocal pasture]

Why is everyone talking about fuel prices going down? In ETH terms, they're pretty stable....0.0000026. ETH just lost more than 30% in the last 15 days....

Yes I know....but i the ETH ecossystem, it seems pretty stable. Fuel prices are NOT going down....ETH is, regarding fiat currencies

yep....godzilla just blew up.....

Lets see how long until the shock waves spread 😐

crazy fiat money wizardries....you can only defy gravity for so long....

[hardy brook]

@opal thistle So 114 have crafted suit skins from blueprints. How are they doing this because I can't see how? I have the blueprints but the forge says I don't 😕

[open stratus]

Can you hoard fuel and sell it all at once

[spiral barn]

Hi, What kind of feature will come for players playing in Zero? Will we play this game as a single-player game or will there be a feature? Like resource transfer to Overword? It's like we're playing on our own without buying land. If it's necessary to buy land, why can we play this game without buying land?

[spiral ravine]

Hi guys! In my assets i have 2 plots, one i bought it years ago and the other one?

[open stratus]

Guessing it's the f2p version where you.play for fun

[spiral ravine]

Ah ok is just for practice?

[rugged tiger]

yes, did you already report it? on mobile it is fine for me, but on pc it gets hard to read (depends on contrast of display ofc) - id recommend to write the number besides or change the color at least

[dusky osprey]

will they are going to do something regarding selling of fuel ? because not its like freezed..

[calm trout]

Correct, stays at 24 hours

[tired aurora]

It does not sell, the price is not up to date for what you can actually sell for

or something is flawed

[vocal pasture]

Mmm yep, my sales seem stuck at zero…

[solar swallow]

All I'm saying is that I have T4 land that generate 5-6k fuel daily and I can't even run S1 once with out hustle

[vocal pasture]

I get it…hope it is fixed soon.

[fleet jacinth]

what does it mean bubble root 1h 47m? does that mean it upgrades and i get more material from harvesting it?

[little wagon]

What do plants give now? I didn’t see my credits go up, so am wondering what they give nowadays,…… it used to be 0-4 credit after deleting them.

[solar swallow]

Also if I understand it good then if I'll want to sell for 0.0005 and have it listed then I'll also be able to buy it at that price rather then higher which happens right now

[wide vine]

cannt we auto claim resources till silos are full? i have to click every 1 minut an icon lol on 3 lands, i have no more life

[fleet jacinth]

i think they do that on purpose to make it more interactive as a game

may as well stake eth if you want afk gains LUL

[wide vine]

being offline meeans a setback lol, have to stay online 24/7 :/

[fleet jacinth]

or just do it during waking hours like sane people

im sure theres some cheeky nerds that have bots to click it all or will later down the track

could even set a macro that clicks each material spot and the top right x incase it wasnt ready

wouldnt even take effort i used to do that on runescape when i was 9

probably shouldnt tho probably bannable

[foggy sage]

Yes

[young nacelle]

still same issue.?
if bought it with structure inside.
is better reset it. magic works

Otherwise, if not,
reach #❓❓〕support

[pearl marten]

I see thanks - are you on a T3?

[fickle hollow]

The operation buttons are gone!

Building a house like this is an error and can't be played. My land helps me

helps me!

[misty rock]

Hi for the fuel exchange since for every fuel we sell the DAO create 9 fuel for free and sell to the market. (Means we get only 10% or sale proceeds)

Why are we only getting only 10%. We funded the development with our land purchase. We should get a large share.

Perhaps for every fuel we sell they can only charge a tax on it .
1️⃣ 10% tax
2️⃣ 20% tax
3️⃣ 30% tax
4️⃣ 40% tax

✅ Agree
❌ Disagree

[fleet jacinth]

why doesn't the game make a ding when the action has completed like your carbon mine has finished mining etc

[fleet jacinth]

this whole dao thing is literally inflation which is theft, was this ever afformentioned, it's pretty cheeky tbh

i must say with crypton selling at 0.00056usd it's not very appealing owning land already XD

[misty rock]

If fuel is insufficient to boost the demand then they should give launch promo to reduce fuel cost a bit and give boost to all
Land on promo period to bring production upto speed

[misty rock]

@lost walrus Do you have a better fairer proposal?

[lost walrus]

if we all want more the game is destroyed within a couple of months, we knew it would be 5 procent

[radiant sky]

yes, the bigger the plant is, the more elements it should grant you when being harvested.

[radiant sky]

Plants don't grant you the tokens anymore, you get elements now for harvesting them.

[lost walrus]

would be nice if there was like 1-5 procent change to get a token

[daring citrus]

What bonus does a Primeval March provide?

[radiant sky]

Ind the end it is a game you have to interact with 🙂
Don't worry, when your buildings get to a higher level it gets better with the hustle.

[lost walrus]

how does anyone tier 1 goes hahaha

[daring citrus]

slow

[lost walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-over-matter-facebook-fitness-memes-viral-workout-gif-14382358

[daring citrus]

Does anyone have a Primeval March? I just wanne know what production it boosts

[radiant sky]

open a ticket #❓❓〕support
There seems to be a bug when you build a lot of path's.

[radiant sky]

The DAO actually creates and sells 19 fuel for every fuel you are going to place a sell order.
So the cut is 1:19 (5:95)

[open stratus]

Carbon

[radiant sky]

I think that's on the developement list if i'm not wrong.
Just doesn't have a high priority at the moment.

[daring citrus]

thank you

[radiant sky]

make sure to leave ingame feedback 🙂

[lost walrus]

to lazy for that and not needed anymore hahaha

get one builder for my tier 1 and dont think I will need more because of Fuel issues

they noticed ROI of 2 years

that is what they aiming for

[fleet jacinth]

elements!?

[radiant sky]

carbon, silicon or hydrogen

[fleet jacinth]

im on the fence i like to keep an open mind, if prices are high everyone pays more and respectively everyone sells their illuviums for more as they want to break even?

[pearl marten]

@shut wave @misty rock these things have been discussed many times over the years and it was always like this 5%-95% .. if you feel the margin for landowners should be larger you can always put in an Idea in the feedback channel, gather enough support and make it an IIP

[lost walrus]

tbh I have no idea how this game will develop

I find it personally a fun game and hope others do as well

[pearl marten]

The game has only be launched - it doesn't have even 2 weeks .. what do you people expected? to get rich in 1 week? 😄
Have a bit of patience and let the economy balance itself

Wait for more polish/bug fixes/Arena and OW further development etc
Have patience

[gentle portal]

this mean no one buying it atm?

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[fleet jacinth]

i think the land games super solid i haven't sunk my teeth into the overworld properly but they did a damn good job on zero

[shut wave]

Iv heard this many many times before with many promising projects. Its not about that. 5% and 95% is a colossal gap! I dont know the calculations behind the scenes but i had over 2000 fuel units for sale at an incredibly low price for over 2 days. The game launched after a 2 year wait for this exciting new thing. The momentum should have had really high demand especially in the beginning. But if 95% of the fuel is floating before what anyone else is selling thats a massive bummer!

[foggy sage]

why no one want to buy my fuel make me so sad

[fleet jacinth]

crypto religiously spikes in the beginning and plummets soon after with new stuff, so my assumption is the biggest gains occur early on, i made .66 eth farming GU arena when the newest expansion came out and i did that in 1 month

[bitter glade]

Weights for scanning is a bug. Getting it fixed.

[pearl marten]

idk how much you know about ILV but the game isn't designed like that - wait for more illuvial utility (Arena rewards/leviathan/Gauntlet/cosmetics etc) and then the economy will feel different

[bitter glade]

This big gap is by design because it’s the only way the dao gets money. Remember this isn’t just flipping an asset. This is a constant revenue generation where you set the price at which people play the game.

[foggy sage]

what about fuel not returning back to land plot if a fuel sell order was cancled?

[mortal smelt]

Every business needs cashflow period

[pearl marten]

Would you rather have 1mil people playing for 1 week make money and leave for the next project or have a steady growth of people/DAU each week?
i personally would love the 2nd option

[bitter glade]

Can we PLEASE stop replying to particular issues with other issues? Raise a separate thing. Don’t piggyback on some other issue. It makes it way harder for me to track.

[bitter glade]

The average crypto user is only interested in sucking money out of the system and leaving it a dead husk. Illuvium is not that and hasn’t been designed that way. People will just have to get used to the idea.

[shut wave]

I will be patient. I dont think I understand this as well as I need to as of yet. Thank you.

[pearl marten]

sorry you feel this way but they did deliver 3 games in a relative short time.. there's no other game on the blockchain that can compare with the quality of Illuvium (afaik).. so if you had patience for 3 years have faith for a few more months

[bitter glade]

Regarding the Fuel Exchange we’re looking at setting a slippage option. Hopefully that will help people understand. You’ll see an estimate of your bonus fuel, and you can set how much slippage you want.

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/milk-mocha-milk-and-mocha-bears-morning-mornin-gif-17296004

[bitter glade]

We have been absolutely transparent with everything. There is not even a hint of scam that someone could level at us.

At no point were we hiding the nature of the way fuel works. We don’t hide anything.

Not reading someone and then finding out it is different from what you assumed is not “scammy”.

[pearl marten]

That's what i'm trying to explain (and believe it or not Illuvium was my 1st crypto/nft investment back in 2021) so i learned along the way

And i think this is what makes me have faith and believe in the project - the way the economy/future development of games is/are setup

[thorny crater]

I have a side question about zero, not dealing with anything above lol

Plants, plant maker. Do plant still help increase scanning? I tried finding something in it in the guiñe but I think I over looked it maybe?

[shut wave]

Cant deny that. Overall im quite positive. Perhaps my lack of understanding is fueling my words. It is entirely possible my thinking is unreasonable. I most certainly dont know the maths. But I am most definitely not the sucking the system dry mindset. If anything I put more money in the system and my expectation was that when the hype is there atleast at that stage the fuel sale would be good. Ill have to wait and watch.

[grand silo]

so a T1 will take about 3 months of building then after that its pretty much paying for your daily runs?

[abstract crown]

should be able to pay for at least 1 stage 1 run a day

[shut wave]

You're right.

[grand silo]

95% & 5% was made clear from the start

[grand silo]

is that ok? I dont play OV so not up to play on costs/time

[pearl marten]

I've also been angry along the way .. dissapointed at different stages of development ...went all in maybe in here saying things i shouldn't have... it was a roller coaster of emotions these past years as for everyone involved i'm sure, but in the end i'm very positive and believe in the team. They are pretty open to feedback and suggestions and the community overall is great - not to mention that we're only at the beginning 🙂

[abstract crown]

if you really put effort into that 1 run it can last about an hour

[grand silo]

thats not bad

[abstract crown]

its the weakest stage after teir 0 but u can catch some decent things in there for sure. also after 2 days from your land you can probs go into stage 2

[lost walrus]

tja, lets say 30 minutes or so

[abstract crown]

depends how deep u want to go 🙂 u can fight all the fights if u get t0 consumables

[lost walrus]

true if you fight every fight you can even play for 2 hours but ,,,, why hahaha

[sharp ridge]

can f2p players sell blueprint in marketplace?

[abstract crown]

level up your illuvials my man..

min max

[shut wave]

Bro rather than being such a downer i am as we speak reading more into what I dont understand about how the dao works. Thanks for your replies though, i really appreciate it.

[lost walrus]

yeah fun fun

[grand silo]

so its paying for a run, plus developing as time goes on which in turn will increase the land value also.

[pearl marten]

No worries mate. Anytime

[abstract crown]

cant say if the land value will increase but its generating fuel that you will be able to sell to the fuel exchange for people playing overworld

[spiral ravine]

Hii guys, is it possible to sell a land?

[grand silo]

sure was making an assumption there but also oonce the 2nd set of land sales start surely developed land will fetch a premium

youd like to think so anyways

[abstract crown]

well im not sure about that. If more land is sold that would increase the amount of land able to sell fuel. eventually

[grand silo]

true

[abstract crown]

but there will only be another land sale if there is the demand for it.. So we would need a lot more players in the game

[spiral ravine]

Because i don't know if i can invest my time to play on it to be honest

[grand silo]

yes you can sell on the marketplace, illuvidex, tokentrove

[spiral ravine]

Ok and can i decide the price?

[grand silo]

sure

[spiral ravine]

Ok thanks! And how can i see now how much value has compared to the price i bought?

[lost walrus]

will be less

i guess

[gentle portal]

why no one is buying? is there an option u can sell it asap?

[lost walrus]

at the monent

[abstract crown]

when you click on the NFT you will be able to see past activity

[spiral ravine]

Yeah i know that there is the price in ETH that i used ...but since crypto are down, how much does it cost now?

[abstract crown]

oh not sure.. but u can google eth price on the day u bought it.. and do a little bit of maths 🙂

[young nacelle]

Earning rn is not the concern in my view currently, at least.
Have infos about Zero's update and changes are more important.
We all waiting patiencely 🫡

[grand silo]

yep building/upgrading for me

[spiral ravine]

Maybe i didn't explain well, a tier 3 is a lower price now?

[foggy sage]

would 2 T4 lands before enough fuel generation for 2 players to play hardcore?

[karmic mica]

yes, by quite a bit

[lost walrus]

dont think you need 2 T4 lands

[grand silo]

lol I wish i didnt look, yes its down massively

[abstract crown]

when maxed out they can get about 5k fuel a day each.. so almost 3 stages 3 runs

[foggy sage]

dang thats not much

[spiral ravine]

at that time was 4 eth and now i don't know if worth to sell it

[lost walrus]

ow ok you need 2 T4 wo

[grand silo]

did you buy with silv2?

[spiral ravine]

mmm no with eth if i am not wrong

[abstract crown]

its quite a lot over a year.. like a good return on investment.. but who knows 🙂

[tawdry monolith]

How can I get more of those yellow points to level up my Nexus?

[grand silo]

buy credits

[spiral ravine]

guys the problem is this, even if i build on it and i play everyday, how much is it possible to earn with a tier 3?

[grand silo]

t3s pump

[spiral ravine]

what does it mean?

[grand silo]

they crank out the resources not sure what that means run wise in ow

but you will need to grind to build it up

[spiral ravine]

sorry i don't understand that, probably i am stupid

[grand silo]

not at all, youll need to grind as in put time in to build the plot before you reap the rewards

[spiral ravine]

How much time is necessary?

[misty rock]

Why are we getting only 10% of the sale proceed. We part funded the dev with the land purchase so we should be compensated fairly.

We should stop the free player from sucking the system dry.

If the dev is taking 90% of the fuel sales. They better use it wisely to build up competition and esport events to drive player count

[abstract crown]

you can probably max it out in 2 weeks. i think

[spiral ravine]

Ok and there is some strategies about? I mean i am at 0 level so is there a specific place in the plot where i put the nexus? I don't understand this

[abstract crown]

thats always been the way it was going to work

[abstract crown]

i suck at this bit sorry lol.. if you look in pinned messages there are infographics that tell u everything u need to know.

[spiral ravine]

ok thanks....in which section?

[grand silo]

Scoriox is my good to guy on Zero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU-o5ZH8RXU

[abstract crown]

my hero 😄

[spiral ravine]

Thanks i've already watched and is very chaotic

[grand silo]

and this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btL85SmU-70&t=2s

[abstract crown]

this should help u

[grand silo]

once you get into it its pretty straight forward

[abstract crown]

thats all I know and I cba to read through it all lol.. thats why my land is in tatters

u can always move your buildings later to optimise your land so dont worry too much

[spiral ravine]

Yeah but for example how could i know that nexus needs a path to the hole fuel? i didn't know that

[spiral ravine]

For free?

[abstract crown]

yep

yeah only way you will know these things is to read what I sent you 🙂 it doesnt really tell u that in the game

[fleet jacinth]

the only reason i bought the land was for this reason, but im shocked at low returns in the beginning that's all not worried the slightest mid to long term

[spiral ravine]

ok thanks

[grand silo]

pull a sicky at work for a day and play Zero after that youll know everything you need to

[fleet jacinth]

wouldnt more land on the market cause existing land to reduce in price?

[spiral ravine]

But how much is it possible to earn with a land which is working good?

[misty rock]

The best situation is that we can ROI within a short period. Then they come out with some nerf to cool the inflation and balance the economy.

[spiral ravine]

Because i don't want invest time in a thing which will give me so low revenues

[grand silo]

yes but remember they will only drop more land if the demand is there. if the demand is there its means original plots have being doing well. thats my take anyways

[grand silo]

thats the risk/reward

[spiral ravine]

SO what's the purpose to buy a land? ahah

[misty rock]

Just hope the dev can be kinder to us early supporter.

[fleet jacinth]

okay thats good to know it honestly impresses me how far ahead devs have thought

its the only web 3 game i have confidence in

[grand silo]

just like the real world I guess, produce an income, land go up/maybe

[misty rock]

Yes they did deliver a good game. Let just there is more spin off game using this IP

[grand silo]

income/play game

[misty rock]

They mention that future development may have land battle and raiding

[gusty surge]

is the max effiency for extractor 150%?

[spiral ravine]

Eventually, could i sell a land even if i already played on it?

[misty rock]

Depend on your land tier. Tier 3 can goes up beyond 150% u can give it a try on the free plot

[gusty surge]

tier3?

[fleet jacinth]

yes the land can be reset

[grand silo]

yes of course

[spiral ravine]

Ok guys thanks for informations

[grand silo]

but also if you develop it well you made fetch a premium because the new buyer would save time/resources