🎮〕illuvium-zero

[weary bluff]

insanely bad, not just block

there hasnt been a good airdrop lately i believe, because too many people farm at this point

[hearty cradle]

wormhole was good

[weary bluff]

GMRX did alright, but only for whales

[lapis gulch]

It's too early to tell. Pretty sure one of those "bad" airdrop will turn out to be big during the bull. And paper hands will cry again.

[weary bluff]

bad airdrop doesnt mean only small amount, it means long vesting, it means skipping bull

cuz u cant sell during bull cause of vesting.

u saw what happened to ilv token during bear

40$ , when its initial price was 50$

[hearty cradle]

i hope blast and zksync will do decent

[weary bluff]

from 1700 to 40

[lapis gulch]

ILV's airdrop is not just giving tokens, it's giving 2% of the revdis eligibility away.

Let's just agree that if the game is good. Everything goes out of the window.

[hearty cradle]

wdym

[weary bluff]

nope, farmers do not care about the game at all

they care about the $ from airdrop

[hearty cradle]

ingame token doesnt have revdis

[lapis gulch]

I mean 200k tokens are 2% of the revenue share given to people.

[weary bluff]

get a million people to fud you and u lose the project

[lapis gulch]

F farmers. I don't care about extractors in the system.

[hearty cradle]

we do care, thus the P2A

[weary bluff]

the only way out for ilv would be to boost asset airdrops, that would mean giving extra post event.

[lapis gulch]

Might as well buy twitter bots over those.

[weary bluff]

thats what $SHARK did when they saw 100k ppl fud them

[lapis gulch]

Musk is even looking bad at engagement farming.

[weary bluff]

they tried to atleast make the holders/investors happy, so they dont dump

[hearty cradle]

damn how many airdrops are u farming

[weary bluff]

their founder was literally dming random people in twitter to ask for advice how to handle the situation

[weary bluff]

20 atm

or so

[hearty cradle]

ok so u do know more about airdrop than most people here

[weary bluff]

yep and ive seen what happens when things arent handled properly, when there isnt a single thought put in the airdrop

just giving stuff doesnt work, need brains.

[hearty cradle]

airdrop farmers are the nastiest

[weary bluff]

we talkin about people that are literally spending all their time farming for some bucks and then when they dont get anything or super small amounts, they commit their entire time to fud you.

[lapis gulch]

I've seen my fair share of airdrops. In most cases people just take the money and leave. In 1 case they get more in other they get less.
But they leave in both cases. In how many airdrops did you hold?

[weary bluff]

i hold all of them

even non farm related airdrop cuz of nft holdings

theres zero point to sell after the big dump

might as well wait a bit

but that wont be the case with ilv, airdrop with vesting makes sure that people skip bull

[hearty cradle]

thats pretty weird, airdrops are meant to be dumped unless they do staking. then u wait few days to dump

[weary bluff]

if i was gettin 10k airdrops i would sell

some bucks wont fix my life

" D

[hearty cradle]

oh

[weary bluff]

and yes, engagement farming is dead in X, theyll switch to youtube/tiktok now

atleast thats what i hear

[hearty cradle]

i hate social farming

u will get shadow banned
and u need to be KoL in the first place

[weary bluff]

no, directly suspended account

from like a week or so

its totally forbidden

and theres no going back, cuz X's support is pretty much non existent once you are suspended, i should know

im suspended with my main : D

and that was before the new rules

[narrow oasis]

I agree that that the expense of the airdrop could have been spent in other marketing ways. Or not even marketing, just keep developing the games.

[weary bluff]

totally, 200k ilv would provide bots for farming for years ahead : D

engagement on our posts i mean : D

[lapis gulch]

There are 2 parts to this. The loyalty airdrop I'm really happy about. I believe rewarding good behavior is very beneficial.

But rewarding airdrop farming. Blank engagement will have not that great of an effect.

But putting eyes and hands to battle test the whole project has a price.

And that's the airdrop.

[weary bluff]

if we were so confident in the games we wouldnt need to pay for eyes

not like this atleast

[lapis gulch]

Every project needs testing. BG3 was 3 years in early access.

And here the space is very competitive.

Not many will look at your game if it gives them nothing.

Too many projects, not enough people.

So we pay the price.

[weary bluff]

web2 games r doin fine without tokens

if the game is good

[lapis gulch]

But we're not a web2 game. Try to get someone to play this and tell them it has NFTs.

There is a cost to building web3 now. Yes funding is easier, but onboarding is harder.

[weary bluff]

nft is just another word for item, u just actually own it. but i get your point. afaik imx will make the transition easier

so it doesnt feel like the web3 shit u gotta go through

[narrow oasis]

I don't think it necessarily has a price aside from having to develop the game. The testing can simply come from the release of the game.

On top of that, we'll be missing out on precious quality data for the whole duration of the airdrop. Meaning that part of the testing will go to waste.

I've said it already, marketing and testing don't really do well together, especially in that order.

Just because it's web3 doesn't mean we have to rush everything and pay people to try our product 😕

On the contrary, we're still at the beginning of the web3 adoption curve. We should be focusing on the product and not its marketing. Why do a big web3 marketing push way ahead of web3 mass adoption. I don't get it.

[blazing ferry]

How do most of these airdrops work, are they based on time played or specific in-game tasks? For the OB airdrop here you'll need to have in-game achievements that hopefully require a bit more effort (even paid tasks) than typical farming.

I don't like that testnet airdrop is purely based on time played though.

[lapis gulch]

Our stance was that we're not selling early access (like BG3 did)
Instead of people paying us to test, we'll pay them 🧠

I've argued this point before. It got shot down.

[blazing ferry]

You'll be able to fully zoom out

[narrow oasis]

Yeah, probably because what we're doing (web3) works soooo differently than web2 games, we can only do this marketing technique 🙄

[weary bluff]

it depends on the project tbh, such details are not always revealed. i believe both are factor in most airdrops, but in my personal opinion time spent shouldnt be such a big factor, because ure just promoting afk chillin in your game and we all know that zero is just that, afking.

$KURO for example from kuroro beasts is based on tasks and quests , atleast thats what they say.

the exp is capped to small amount a day, but in two separate games

they have 100k registrations and 4k+ DAU , but i can bet that none of u even knows they exist

this wont be the case with ilv

with ilv we might see the biggest ever participation in such thing

which is why im so worried that the airdrop will backfire due to low amounts distributed per wallet

also implementation of pay to get bigger airdrop is a huuuge issue in such scenario, ppl might spend more than theyll get.

that will be the the worst thing that could happen

i dont even know how beyond users will participate, but i heard theyre included, this automatically disqualifies 99% of participants from that portion of the airdrop

maybe more than 99%

so if u have ways to grind that, grind it a lot.

but still ,we need to know the structure first to make such conclusions , but yes, if beyond users participate in all other areas too, theyll get more than the rest. that is usually fine, but the users that cannot participate properly due to f2p or lack of access to other areas of the airdrop would mean that those users will get smaller amounts than those that can participate in all, so if u grind all possible options and get 2 ilv, that would mean that some f2p dude is taking 0.1 or 0.2

at best.

the main issue would and the biggest concern is how long is the airdrop, if u make ppl to farm 1-2 months for 20$, we are basically diggin our own grave.

and then add vesting... rip.

of course theres a way to handle that , a bit savage tho. u deny airdrop to the smallest participants, some basic requirements to actually receive airdrop that would determine the minimum amount received based on how many ppl have participated total

[blazing ferry]

I'd just like to see significant gameplay achievements required. It seems to me that could prevent these type of short-term farmers from participating as much and encourage more of the real gamers.

I know people see value in high DAU regardless, but I hope more value will come from people who are interested in both the game and the airdrop and who will be attached to the game by the end of month 5.

[weary bluff]

that would require play to earn inside free to play zero imo, i still strongly believe that its mistake to introduce web3 to a game that has no earning potential

its like sending fish to the desert

[blazing ferry]

Problem is, the only comparisons we have are with junk web3 games. Most people here hope and expect that Illuvium will set that bar higher and hopefully break this terrible mold.

[weary bluff]

exactly, the attendance will be much bigger due to many types of advertisement and partnerships, hence why the airdrop is small

[polar cosmos]

Hi, so Illuvium Zero will be on mainnet when Open Beta launch or not?

[weary bluff]

we will know by the end of the week afaik

[tardy falcon]

Spoon and Filow killin' it with the ZERO proposals... go check them out and give some feedback and love
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1233056314142363779
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1233071586555330560

[polar cosmos]

thx

[mortal mural]

many valuable members in this community. spoon filow and a bunch few gets the gold though.

[dusky copper]

yo guys .. is it normal that you can use only 3 power stations and keep moving them before collecting to get 150% efficiency ? I think they should fix that .. it looks like a bug and makes mines placement useless on land ..

and I bet that many of you dont know that

[radiant sky]

It got fixed for beta

[dusky copper]

u mean beta v4 ? bcs in beta v3 it's not fixed

[radiant sky]

Atm you are playing Alpha season 1, in beta Version (Next Version) this should be fixed already

[dusky copper]

okay

proof ?

they said that ?

or did an admin confirm that ?

[radiant sky]

Am on Phone now, so Hard to Find the Post.
But yes, Johnny confirmed it Long ago

[dusky copper]

so wait .. the fuel that people collected during the last 2 years .. they can sell it in marketplace after ?

[cosmic spade]

why i''m not allowed to put a comment in the IIP site (want to say i love your idea @radiant sky )...

[dusky copper]

IIP site ?

[cosmic spade]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1233071586555330560

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Should still be Like explained

[radiant sky]

No, will be reset

[cosmic spade]

ok, now it works, lost my roles

[radiant sky]

Need to have the staker role for posting in the Governance section.
Yes, i don't Like it either

[dusky copper]

" in the beta efficiency will be an approximation of the average efficiency across the life of the activity. "
what did he mean by that ?

[hearty cradle]

wait what

[radiant sky]

If you have for example during half the activity time 150% efficiency and the other half 50% efficiency you End up with 100%... very basic explenation

[dusky copper]

"the life of activity" means the time of extracting the element ?

[radiant sky]

Yes, for example.

But it's also for all other Buildings Like Scanner, converter etc.

[dusky copper]

yeah okay i get it

[dusky copper]

yo spoon .. you're still here ?

what can make lands floor price go higher ?

[weary bluff]

having a good place in the ecosystem, an important role. crucial and valuable role. providing more than just 1 trip per few days in OW.

you shouldnt expect any zero holder to pay a cent in your games and this is what they expect from holders, they expect us to pay to play.

they gave 72m , thats more than enough taken from us with 8k holders, unless they expect only holders to play their games ofc.

[dusky copper]

normally it is .. because the 3 fuels are used to travel, to get equipment, and cure shards in illuvium overworld so it will keep burning

[weary bluff]

what tier land do u have btw

[dusky copper]

2 of t1

[weary bluff]

cuz thats important factor , t1 cannot play ow for example, not really.

[dusky copper]

so it means he needs to pay more to play ow and he already owns the t1

[weary bluff]

or u will play once per few days

it might take u few weeks for your first trip

even on maxed land ull have hard time going on higher tier trips

that shouldnt be the case.

[dusky copper]

yeah I get your point

on arena .. there will be some type of earning ?

that could help you pay what you have to pay in ow

[weary bluff]

there was leaderboard that people farmed with alt accounts and they stopped it, idk whats next

not sure, i dont think so.

for that we might need some professional arena player , i dont like the current version of arena, so ive skipped it

[dusky copper]

why did they include arena then ? i mean it's a fun tft game but it should help you somehow if you kept winning

and beyond as well .. it may balance that

so you cant play ow just with your earning in zero

[weary bluff]

they have no way to provide profits for large playerbase, cuz arena isnt earning.

[dusky copper]

they wanna keep the 4 games connected

[weary bluff]

or atleast i dont think its earning

its just spending afaik.

[dusky copper]

they could add some type of earning if you win a competitive match

[weary bluff]

in order to give stuff, they must earn stuff, i believe.

[dusky copper]

i think you're wrong

they cant make 4 games and u only earn in one ( zero )

[weary bluff]

how would arena earn from players

the only way i could think of is making battlepass and like dota, 50% goin to rewards or something

[dusky copper]

you pay fuel in ow to get illuvials that you gonna play with in arena

and you gonna earn in arena if u win matchs

[weary bluff]

so ow would pay for arena players?

[dusky copper]

and beyond is gonna help the takeonomics too but idk how exactly they didnt give details yet

[weary bluff]

that must come from dao money, dao loves their money.

tbh i am not familiar with how arena will work at all, the only thing i remember is that they plan to make pvp for eth, i mean u bet eth and u play. but i dont see that being a thing that people will do.

[dusky copper]

listen .. consider the 4 games are one game .. and the players are gonna earn in the games with fuel used in ow and generated in zero with players themselves

[weary bluff]

that wont work, if bunch of games are dragging u down and u only earn from one, should be unsustainable

especially if ow isnt played as they expect it and ppl dont pay.

[dusky copper]

I believe their takeconomics is solid .. we just dont have enough details yet .. they will add more things in beta v4 .. then it will be more clear

[dusky copper]

YOU WILL NOT EARN ONLY FROM ONE

[weary bluff]

i mean ilv earning only from OW

cant sustain 4 games if ow isnt played.

[dusky copper]

you earn from all of them
zero with fuel sell
ow with good illuvials to sell
arena with winning matches or smtg
beyond not explained yet

[weary bluff]

ok, but where do the money come from to pay for these things?

[dusky copper]

and the game is gonna pay the players with the money spend on fuel by the players

actually the fuel is the center of the game takeconomics

which will balance the game

tbh I believe in the project .. and the team is solid

it will go for a bull run if the beta v4 went well and it could reach really high for months then go down .. like most of the games

dont forget the project development started in Q4 2020 ..

• why did u say buying a land wont be enough ? do you already know how much fuel you need to teleport or smtg ? or do you know fuel price ? you dont have enough info to judge

@weary bluff

[lost walrus]

why not

[radiant sky]

You are going to pay fuel for all digital Stuff, Like OW Runs/crafting, IZ Shop, future Landsales, beyond disks etc. Except for a few things where it wouldn't suit but 5% of that would still be dropped to landowners.

The dao creates 95% of all fuel, IZ produces the other 5%.

[weary bluff]

due to low fuel production

[weary bluff]

ye i think t3 run is 2500 fuel

u cant make that with t1 in the first month

and u definitely cant store that

[lost walrus]

I hope 2 tier 1 is enough to play twice a week

[lost walrus]

bit silly to play tier 3 in the first weeks

[radiant sky]

But to be fair, we also don't know how the production side is going to Change, we just know it will change

[weary bluff]

so instead of adjusting the prices to the current production, theyll make a new price and then adjust the production and storage?

[hollow shoal]

I do hope that we can make enough fuel to play and sell. Gonna be a question answered soon hopefully.

[weary bluff]

nono, thats not happening on t1

u have to choose between progress and playing or selling

u cant have 2 out of 3

not to mention 3 out of 3

im fairly certain that even on max land u wont be able to do daily run on high tier, ull need days or weeks to save and store it somewhere, storages are extremely , extremely scuffed and take a lot of room, t1 is having hard time as it is without having to spare 10 storages just for a run

i could try to check for screenshot on my t1 lvl 1000+ (not max ofc) i had barely room for plants to spawn, theres no way we make room for such amounts of storages

it is quite possible that t1 will not be able to do high tier runs at all , due to lack of room for storage

even if u did save for weeks

or you wouldnt have many other things. a choice must be made, u setup ur land for OW runs (storage and fuel) or for bp or for max fuel to sell

ive been sayin since day 1 that storages are not ok, that would be one of the big issues imo

[dusky copper]

that's the point of releasing beta v4 of the 4 games during 6 months .. to balance that on the official release

[radiant sky]

Absolutely, but don't expect to make daily a high Tier Run with a t1... That would be an 100%roi in 2 months.
That's not gona jappen

I don't know, but i definetly wouldn't expect it

[foggy siren]

Do we know a rough estimate how much fuel the Lands produce per day when fully build and optimised?

[radiant sky]

Not for the Beta (Next) version

[weary bluff]

theres many types of land development as mentioned, u can go for full fuel to sell, u can go for blueprints, u can go for fuel + storage to be able to save and run ow trips

i believe fuel selling will not be a good option for t1 tho, as that wouldnt make any money. bp should be the most profitable

[foggy siren]

ok yeah. Was just curious what will be possible if you concentrate on full fuel production. I only played my land until I got the blueprints in alpha cause without a goal after that it got a little boring for me

Tier 2 lands where ok to build but my T1s where really slow to build up

[radiant sky]

In Alpha season1 it's probably arround that.

[foggy siren]

a nice thx for that man

[radiant sky]

But those numbers can Change a Lot in beta

[radiant sky]

Full fuel most likely not possible anymore.
One of many reasons i thought about the Training grounds, so you still be able to focus on fuel without only spaming 1 building

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1233071586555330560

[foggy siren]

yeah we will see what they change when the beta releases

[radiant sky]

There was a townhall back in June/feb dedicated to IZ.
You an Find it in illuvium+ on YouTube. Some talks were about the changes coming in there

https://youtu.be/Xs1l57yJ1XM?si=YJ_3_MHydXAnNeDv

[foggy siren]

Ah cool will search for that. Been a little bit out of the loop lately with buying a house and working 😉 Thx for the link man

[polar cosmos]

https://twitter.com/CoininsiderPL/status/1783607506989629725

some content from polish community ; )

CoinInsider.pl (@CoininsiderPL) on X

Gry, które robiliście pod #airdrop ostatnio, powoli będą ginąć w czeluściach internetu i web3.

Gra, którą ja robię pod dropa i nie tylko, buduje się od 4 lat i jeszcze nie istnieje.

Widzicie różnice, czy wam narysować?

Zapisy na testy jeszcze przez 5d:
https://t.co/JT6qOn3ZNF

Twitter · Apr 25, 2024, 9:22 PM

[radiant sky]

Be careful... Fine line

Now with discord filling up, those Stuff could Lead to Mutes in the near future.

Otherwhise chats get spammed with self promotions

[polar cosmos]

thanks, noted it 😉

[blazing ferry]

just put in #🎨〕community-content and it's good

[polar cosmos]

i did, thanks

[weary bluff]

how come

[radiant sky]

Power/efficiency System + powerstation change

[weary bluff]

so efficiency can drop below 50%?

[radiant sky]

Can't Find the other posts, because i'm on Phone, Hard to Find Stuff on mobile. Best would probably be listening to the townhall linked above. If ibremember right he explained it in there. But no Details known, they keep the numbers and mechanic Details secret. Duno why... But we will See them anyways soon.
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[weary bluff]

thats only if u go with power stations from what i read

but there was another option with full 50% converters afking

and collecting from time to time

power stations were inefficient as it is, if theyre nerfing them... those 150% that we r supposed to get will be unachievable

forcing us to play "their way" on a t1 will be super bad. theres no room, no fuel, no storage and now no efficiency : D

and here we thought theyll make it better... : D

[radiant sky]

Yea that "Spam" Problem was the Starter for rethinking the System if i remember right

[weary bluff]

not sure why it is a problem tbh, but lets see what mess theyve made and we will discuss later

[radiant sky]

Pretty much every mechanic will get tweaked in some Way or another

[weary bluff]

but making it even more unplayable is not cool

[radiant sky]

It's not unplayable

[weary bluff]

it sounds like it

but as i said, we shall see what theyve done again

they should really hire couple of gamers to give them advice, im gettin tired of their inexperience : D

[weary bluff]

idk who gave them advice to make 6 months long airdrop, but he should be fired. ppl will play 6 months for 20$? lol.

with 200k it should be a week

[radiant sky]

Na man.... Make an easteregg with a reward of 50k ilv for the first who find's it, but nobody is actually able to Find and GG.
Get run over for the next decade

[weary bluff]

ready player one?

[unique pendant]

Ok

[radiant sky]

Or lottery

[weary bluff]

but fr, at this point i am certain they have no idea what theyre doing, how would you do 6 months long airdrop with such low amounts of ilv, for 6 months we would need like 5 million ilv

do u have any idea when do the team tokens unlock btw?

cuz they might be goin for token pump, sell team tokens and rug

its the only explanation i can see for such decisions

[radiant sky]

Agree... The only people who are eager to farm it have too low Hardware to be able to Farm it properly and also have no language support 😂.
Result, bots army incoming

[radiant sky]

I think they are unlocked already, but not sure. Kieran did a while ago another lock up after they unlocked.

[weary bluff]

i honestly believe they must be doin aprils fools or something, this cant be real

after 6 months if u give ppl 20$ , ilv is dead

theres NO way.

[radiant sky]

Don't think dead... But the airdrop likely misses it's purpose.

[weary bluff]

brother i dont think anyone understands how bad this is, this is unimaginably bad

farmers will fud us into extinction

and what is the vesting? someone said kieran mentioned it

[radiant sky]

Who cares about the airdrop farmers actually 😂
They are not your Target audience

[weary bluff]

i hahahaha haXHAXHXAHXH i cannot believe : D 6 months for 20 $ and put vesting

yes they are their target audience

who else?

[radiant sky]

People who stay and pay
Not those who hop off to the next game after airdrop is done

[weary bluff]

so like 4 ppl

[radiant sky]

People i know in rl are most likely to stay and thats already 5 🙃
Nobody of them actually cares about the airdrop, they come for the game and possible future of the ip

[blazing ferry]

Here it is #💰〕token message

[weary bluff]

jesus christ

we really on a suicide mission

not only the airdrop is small, but it also skips bull

so these 20$ per person are not even guaranteed

could be 8$

and u better lock them for 6 extra months on top of the mandatory

to get 9$

[barren turtle]

Air drops are nothing for Compensation. People dumping land to invest in Halving Bull run. This is a “Way-past-Bull-Run-Investment” for people who enjoy playing the game…. Like me!😝😝😝😝

[weary bluff]

cant believe i didnt sell my land when it was 0.3 eth fp too...

[grand silo]

Battlecries is​ such sukie​Bubba.​ All​ ​this​ compalining day​ after day​ looking for​ ​​attention.​ I Guess we​ all​ ​​have​ our way aye

Sounds to​ me​ like he​ has​ too​ much​ crying and​ not​ enough battle​ in​ him

[weary bluff]

verify land owner role and then talk to me

[grand silo]

Lol

[nimble lichen]

Battling with reality and crying about the results

[hearty cradle]

@weary bluff need your input on ILV P2A

as we know 10k people gonna have a headstart with pb4

they can upgrade the gears, drone, stockpile shards, and get decent stats illuvials

i like blur and blast airdrop because they are transparent with the airdrop points

i can always know how much and how to accumulate points

and my position in the leaderboard

[blazing ferry]

Sounds like scorecards and missions/tasks to complete are for OB. Testnet airdrop seems pretty shady so far....surely there's more to it than time played or with the game left running. Either way I'd assume the 10k have an advantage, even if it's just because they'll have more time played.

It'll all be reset for OB when the real airdrop and games begin, so that's good

[hearty cradle]

if it's "time-played" people can just run into a wall

if it's missions or capture points then the 10K will have huge advantage

[blazing ferry]

It would definitely be discouraging, unless there are some rules around it like you can get up to x hours each day or something.

If I feel like I need to play 24/7.....well

[blazing ferry]

I look forward to missions in OB and agree, that and dev time are probably why they aren't putting them in for testnet

[vivid cipher]

How do you earn Airdrop points?:

To earn a piece of the 200,000 $ILV, play-to-airdrop, battle in the Illuvium: Arena, explore, hunt, and collect in the Overworld, develop your land in Illuvium: Zero and finally trade and fill your album in Illuvium: Beyond. We will have a points system for activities across all games. In the future, an informative dashboard will give you a clear view of your airdrop points.

Private Beta 4 (PB4): Pre-register here and get access to Private Beta 4. Play as much as possible, hunt for bugs, and ensure everything's operating smoothly on Testnet. You'll earn a flat number of airdrop points to get you started.

Open Beta (Testnet): Didn't get into PB4? That's okay. Once we finish with PB4, we will open the gates to the public, and everyone can earn airdrop points for playing. Remember, the more you play across the four games, the more points you earn.

[blazing ferry]

Rich shared some more info on it earlier #💬〕general message

[vivid cipher]

Private pb4 players earn only a flat amount of points to get started.

[blazing ferry]

ah interesting

[vivid cipher]

Yeah. I had seen that people were sharing more info. But the article hints at some important things.

[blazing ferry]

I should re-read it I guess!

[vivid cipher]

After its open is when it talks about getting more

[blazing ferry]

I think that middle OB testnet portion is still pretty vague on how points will be earned

[hearty cradle]

doesnt give me any info

need to now the mechanism to earn points in ob testnet

[vivid cipher]

Then please @hearty cradle keep feeding the assumptions that all will be unfair and is always unfair unless a people’s champion saves the project

[hearty cradle]

it's a discussion

[vivid cipher]

The words used in the article are “activities” and “the more you play”

[hearty cradle]

and i said "if"

you are welcomed to give a counter argument

[vivid cipher]

When you play the games and are progressing then nfts will be minted and burnt on testnet. Do more. More points. Overworld has had a leaderboard for years. Points. Sure maybe it’s not the same thing they’ll use. But no one is getting any points yet.

[hearty cradle]

if it's based on nft mint, then the 10k people will have a good headstart for ob testnet because it will be easier for them farm

supreme equipment

fully upgraded drone

shards

idk if u play Ow

[vivid cipher]

If those NFTs are still included. Or it’s all retired for open beta testnet.

I’m not good at the games but I’ve played them all for years.

[hearty cradle]

thats my big question, will pb4 be reset

i know pb4 is a flat airdrop

but if u keep your progress from pb4 u will have huge advantage

rich indicated that pb4 wont get reset

so day one of ob testnet, these people gonna dominate

[blazing ferry]

Go about 30 min into the arcade interview with Kieran

Sounds like OB testnet won't have missions and points will be earned based on how much you play

[hearty cradle]

how much play, can mean time-played or nft minted

[blazing ferry]

Airdrop dashboard won't come until real OB

[vivid cipher]

It’ll provide a reasonably safe microcosm of what an adoption curve could look like for the actual public mainnet launch.

[hearty cradle]

its better to be transparent, otherwise the farmers gonna rage

[blazing ferry]

Well, he also said no skill-based rewards, so I don't think any minting that the PB4 players would gain advantage for

[vivid cipher]

That’s a bummer. But makes sense.

[hearty cradle]

it's def not.
mainnet, everyone can start on the same day.
pb4, only a select few got early access and then 10k people

[vivid cipher]

They could all start on first day . But they won’t.

[blazing ferry]

yeah, like I said before I'm excited for the real OB point farming, but this OB testnet seems a bit too shady for me. Needs to be a bit clearer

There will be an airdrop video coming out though that hopefully gives more detail too

[hearty cradle]

the airdrop farmers are on the gate howling

[blazing ferry]

lol, I'm not worried about PB4 players getting any advantage. Just the fact that we don't know how to earn points yet in OB testnet and I don't plan to compete very hard or expect others to either if they know they're up against people who will farm 24/7 to max time played as the only metric

Surely there will be a daily limit or something, just have to wait and see I guess

[hearty cradle]

it's better to announce this before pb4 start

[iron veldt]

Same like in guild of guardians. Tactics so people play more lol

They also announced nothing and only said it at the end of the "testphase" that there will be a big reset

Sure, GoG and Illuvium are different games, but i personally think that there will be a reset

to guarantee a equal playing field

[ancient nacelle]

I'm trying to find this interview you speak of. Got a link?

[radiant sky]

Twitter, but the recording is incomplete, duno how mich is missing since i didn't hear it live

[ancient nacelle]

Oh. I'm too tired to go searching now. Maybe tomorrow if I remember. Thanks for letting me know.

[weary bluff]

on what exactly do u need input , lands not resetting is bad yes.

until yesterday i was convinced that the airdrop is small, but today im not sure if someone will even play for that airdrop, because its 6 months grind. u cannot beat the bots in such long run.

and in the end gettin 5$, cuz ilv skipped bull and they add u 1 year vesting.. no thanks : D

[timber sapphire]

Oke more for us

[weary bluff]

u clearly havent grinded airdrops : D

there will be nothing for you over 6 months period.

[timber sapphire]

I like playing the game, I didnt even expect to have an airdrop on top of it so I'll take what I can get

[weary bluff]

tryna find the link to show you the competition. there are entire neighbourhoods in PH , grandmothers, grandfathers, everyone gettin paid to grind, gazillion phones

u cant beat 24/7 grind.

[timber sapphire]

You know this is not a mobile game right?

Not only

[weary bluff]

sure

[hearty cradle]

overall P2A, not just land.
yea 6 months of competitive grinding is not easy

usually people give up midway

[weary bluff]

exactly, but the actual farmers that do this for a living, don't give up midway. they drain the ecosystem .

i think that this system is stupid tbh. no other way to explain it. its naive to expect to draw people in by requiring 6 months grind with such small amount of airdrop that will come post bull.

even if we never hit 40-50$ per ilv again, itll still be too small amounts split to many people

overall i guarantee they have 0 experienced ppl in such area on the team.

[grizzled remnant]

How can they drain the system if they will have to pay to make points during Mainnet. There gonna be free farmer but for sure they wont drain the ecosystem

I would hate to play the p2a without having goal/objectives/ missions

[weary bluff]

thats even more silly. pay to earn airdrop? : D

and in bear when u get 2 ilv worth 100$ and uve spent 500$ what do u do

[grizzled remnant]

Because you are a free drainer ecosystem ? I get why u fud now

[weary bluff]

or even worse 0.2 ilv

its not fud, its trying to help.

pointing out flaws isnt fud.

anyway, i got bday tomorrow so i wont spend time here to try to reason with yall rn, i guess time will tell. i just hope someone remembers that i predicted it .

[grizzled remnant]

Not sure you help anybody. They give a airdrop over the rewards to motivate people to come and play. Who said it Will be free to earn thoses points ? You gonna pay you travel capture Mainnet assets and play the game. They use the P2a meta to bring not only free players to come and play. Dont get the problem there

[radiant sky]

Big housparty planned?

[weary bluff]

not really, but still got stuff to do and gotta enjoy myself a bit, the fight for ilv can wait. btw thats funny, cuz ilv is stating "fight for eth" : D

first we gotta fight ilv tho.. : d

[dusky copper]

is the progression in zero will reset in beta v4 ?

[broken roost]

+50buildings 👀

[dusky copper]

honestly the team is working like crazy

[rotund forum]

he forgot the 50.000 rocks

[blazing ferry]

Interesting, I can't imagine they've added that many and kept it quiet. Possible he's counting art for different building levels and different regions, though he would be well on the conservative side in that case.

[blazing ferry]

It will be reset for OB Mainnet. We don't really know how they will handle IZ in testnet yet.

[radiant sky]

Exaggerating for effect probably

[broken roost]

Le me dream boys

The one time we hear anything about zero

[radiant sky]

Mentioning plants but not Rocks 😐

[broken roost]

And you crush it being sincere and realistic

[silk comet]

When open beta? its been 2 years?

[radiant sky]

Actually there should be an update today from Johnny, no?

[silk comet]

maybe the illuvium zero was abandoned?

🤷🏻‍♂️

[mortal mural]

how many we had so far>

[blazing ferry]

End of week expectations:

• Johnny update on what might be cut to release IZ sooner, and potential timeline
• Airdrop video release
  🤞

[hearty cradle]

all right bois battle cry is off

do you hear that?

https://tenor.com/view/zen-nature-serenity-tranquility-gif-15414929

[radiant sky]

now, thinking about it... could be they implemented pvp behind our backs so you have to build defensive buildings which have to be introduced, and could easely pump the number into 50+

[dusky copper]

Ob ? Iz ?

Open beta

[ocean haven]

they probably count it, 1 building with 5 levels is 5 buildings

[broken roost]

Ahh now we dreaming

[broken roost]

99% that's the case

[blazing ferry]

Wouldn't that be something! I would be beyond impressed if they kept something big like that under wraps on us this whole time!

[blazing ferry]

Open Beta / Illuvium Zero

[little moon]

@mortal mural @mortal mural @dusky copper

[radiant sky]

Impressed... Absolutely
Would i Like it... Probably not 😂

[rotund forum]

which site was best to look for plots for sale next to yours? There was one that marked it quite clearly, and it wasn´t illuvidex or opensea

ahh yes, tokentrove. I see the plotprices next to mine are still absurd. Up to 9 eth for a T1 😂

[blazing ferry]

last you need for mc?

[rotund forum]

no, but even if it was the last plot I needed no way I would pay that. Better to get a T4 somewhere else for that amount (and a T3 and you´ll still be off cheaper).

[blazing ferry]

for sure

[rotund forum]

But I just saw Scoriox´s video on cities (2x2) and megacities (3x3) and I was surprised that there actually are so many.

[pearl marten]

About 300 in total (2x2 and 3x3) is not a big number imo

[rotund forum]

tbh I think the best thing if you ever want to get a 3x3 realistically is to wait for the next landsale and use different wallets, to avoid getting sniped. But buying second hand plots now is just insane. It will take forever to actually start making profit from selling fuel

[blazing ferry]

what did he go through the entire map looking?

[rotund forum]

it is a lot more than I expected. Because it is not easy, you can´t contact your neighbor (well actually I think you can make a bid on any land, but I think not many people check that. And I don´t think you get an email warning you. Some of my plots have bids (most rather ridiculously low) but I never got any notification on that.

[pearl marten]

He used a script

[blazing ferry]

Nice!

[pearl marten]

Def not easy .. i actually expected to be more than that

Bear in mind that lands are available for a long time now so people have had time to complete their megas

[blazing ferry]

Would be interesting to know too, how many megacities are one plot from completion

[pearl marten]

Yeah 100% on this... but who do you think is holding now 3 or 8 plots in the same wallet? 😄

[rotund forum]

well, if they are not in the same wallet how would scoriox know it is a megacity?

[blazing ferry]

True, they could move them around and hope snipers forget or something

[pearl marten]

we were talking about incomplete ones... you wouldn't want to hold only 3 or 8 in the same wallet because the asking price for the final piece would be very high

The script(s) he used found the ones that are already completed

[rotund forum]

true.

[blazing ferry]

sounds interesting, I'll have to look that one up

[rotund forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnJXrY58neg

[narrow oasis]

He said there's probably around 10% unaccounted for that are split in different wallets

[pearl marten]

I actually have one in Taiga which is by far the region with the least megas until now

and btw awesome work @high sleet on making this video .. very interesting info

[rotund forum]

I have a 2x2 in Shardbluff, and that was from secondary market, but from different owners.

But relatively it cost quite a lot. In the landsale I strictly used sILV, and that meant 60% discount. I fear though that by the next landsale that trick won´t work anymore.

[pearl marten]

Yep .. we actually don't even have a good idea of the value of a mega and how 'profitable' it can be. So still a ton of unknows

[rotund forum]

I hope they use some kind of factor. Like a T4 has a +300% boost on a T1. A megacity should have something like that. If the megacity is 4 x T1, I think it should perform better then just 4 T1´s separately.

There was some talk of building(s) that would only fit on a MC. That building could have that boosting effect. Something like that would be funny and make sense

Tbh, if I owned a plot and someone really needed it to complete their MC, I would not be a jerk and sell it for x5 or whatever. If they gave me a similar plot (with more or less same resources etc.) I´d agree. Maybe a small bonus would be nice but not these abusive prices.

One thing I have not heard anything about btw is scholarships. I think that idea was shoved forward indefinitely? Would have liked that though. Maybe there was some third party solution, but not sure and not sure that would be the same experience (and safety etc.)

[pearl marten]

I'll be sure to ask you where are your plots then 😄

[little moon]

Hehe yeah where dem plots

I'll give floor price and cat pics

[pearl marten]

Btw guys in the meantime check:
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1233368192798298182
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1233071586555330560
Lots of great ideas of making ILZ and OW even more interesting and every input/feedback matters

[rotund forum]

Another thing I have not heard anything about in ages are those 2 tier 5 that they would auction off. Anyone?

[blazing ferry]

Oh nice! Taiga is my favorite landscape for IZ plots. Mine's in crystal shores.... it's quite pink 😆

[blazing ferry]

We'll hear more once the hype builds I'm sure, hopefully couple months into OB or so!

[dusky copper]

yes ?

[tepid shard]

yo

[pearl marten]

I love the diversity in Crystal S

[amber atlas]

Kieran is taking plan to council. Assume it will be shared from there. Out of my hands now.

Would like to discuss but I best wait until I get a green light.

[blazing ferry]

for sure, it's what I'm after so we'll see!

[blazing ferry]

Looking forward to it! Any thoughts on #🎮〕illuvium-zero message ?

[amber atlas]

Testnet is entirely isolated from mainnet. Its not a reset its a different plot.

The alpha data wont be migrated, its a totally different data model and easy to cheat. So testnet will be a clean start. Then mainnet will be a clean start.

[pearl marten]

So those who will get access in PB4 testnet will play random plots? or their own plots but from scratch?

[amber atlas]

We mint the same plots from the same data set. Right now they aren't allocated to current owners, but by PB4 they should be yes.

One question is how to we match up the accounts.

Passport PB4 addresses don't have any connection to mainnet. So I assume what we will do is require you to register your mainnet address in some way.

But this isn't done yet.

(at least not to my knowledge, a lot going on, maybe it has already been done in service of the airdrops)

[mortal mural]

This video is the nerdiest thing someone did for a game and I absolutely love it. @high sleet . I told you all best illuvium creator. The map is crazy

[radiant sky]

Thanks for your and the IZ-Teams hard work, ser!
It's appreciated

[amber atlas]

It wasn't me, it was the team. I just sent them a list of ideas/possibilities to look at.

But thanks anyway 😉

[amber atlas]

😛

[mortal mural]

We love you @amber atlas

[high sleet]

No problemo my friend

[high sleet]

Hahaha I am always doing nerdy stuff 😛 Its who I am

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/more-canihavesomemore-coyotemedia-gif-22455692

[high sleet]

msg me ideas whenever u want

[ancient nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-30th-birthday-gif-4465654998501860541

Not sure if it's been said yet, have a great day mate.

[weary bluff]

aww thank youuuu : P havent gone to bed yet and its 5 am 😭

[ancient nacelle]

Fuckit. Just keep going. Sleep is for pussies.

[fresh star]

Can I participate in the airdrop by playing Illu Zero?

[weary bluff]

facts : D

[blazing ferry]

yep!

[fresh star]

is it included in PB4 this 30th, or is that just for overworld?

[heady spoke]

how about iOS though?

[blazing ferry]

Illuvium Zero will be available for PB4, though it's likely just F2P plots to start.

[fresh star]

I see, but does it mean during Mainnet only those who have lands can play?

[blazing ferry]

Yes, they confirmed iOS support now too

[blazing ferry]

No, there will always be F2P Illuvium Zero

[fresh star]

Alright, thanks.

[heady spoke]

wait what? like now?

[fresh star]

One last thing, how do we know we got selected in PB4?

[heady spoke]

wait on 30th

[fresh star]

In email?

[heady spoke]

yes

[fresh star]

Thanks

[blazing ferry]

You'll get an email with an epic games code to use on the 30th or sometime in May (don't click on email links pretending to be for PB4, they are scams)

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[fresh star]

Yeah but zero is on mobile right? I cant play overworld, my laptop is shit

[heady spoke]

we can play on iOS now?

[blazing ferry]

That's a good point. Zero is on mobile. I'm not exactly sure how you get it for PB4! I'd assume you still need to put the code in epic and maybe it will link to your Illuvium account and you can then download zero to your phone from there.....will need to learn more though

[fresh star]

Is it not on Google play?

[blazing ferry]

Not yet, but for PB4 onwards yes

[blazing ferry]

Today we download from the Illuvium website, I don't know when this will change.

[heady spoke]

last one, so that means on April 30th theyre gonna start to support iOS for ILZ to be able to play with?

[fresh star]

I see, guess we will find out in a few days. Hope I get picked.

[blazing ferry]

Surely it will be on the apple store and google play pretty quickly here as they want to get players in pretty quickly for testnet and open beta.

[heady spoke]

was the PB4 airdrop email only for Overworld? or everything on illuvium games in general?

[blazing ferry]

Hope so, the team hasn't said a specific date yet though. There's this from Johnny: #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[blazing ferry]

PB4 spans all 3 games, plus there are airdrop points for Beyond too though I don't think any changes are coming there

[blazing ferry]

Good luck!

[blazing ferry]

Everyone can join the testnet phase though, even if you aren't in PB4 you get in for month 2+ (PB4 players just get a set amount of airdrop points as bonus)

[high sleet]

Got slammed with house stuff today, had a cool idea for a video 😦 Next saturday maybe

[heady dew]

is it possible to see which cities/megacities are for sale

[vivid cipher]

Megacities… not really. Maybe some in #🛒〕land-dex

[dreamy cipher]

i though IZ will not be available during PB4 was it changed?

[teal mural]

Yeah they are working on something so we can start on time

[radiant sky]

Don't think they mean to be ready for pb4 with paid land, but to be ready for open beta

[dusky copper]

will all land holders play the beta v4 ?

[timber sapphire]

No

Everybody needs to sign up

[rotund forum]

Congratz. Make it a great day!

[mortal mural]

Don’t die on us lol

[celest wagon]

thank you for all the new future functionality !! all the proposals for ilz you are the best the team the community

[upbeat drift]

so when does ilv zero goes live?

approx date i mean

[radiant sky]

We don't know, there should be info soon

[tardy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520

[upbeat drift]

It s been a while…

[tardy falcon]

Just a lil bit

but u can feel it now 😏

[winter python]

Is this from illuvium?

It dosent look like it

[radiant sky]

No it's scam
Everything with a claim Button or a link to claim is 99.99% a scam mail

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[winter python]

I figured as much smh 🤦🏽‍♂️

[visual moth]

👍

[tardy falcon]

I'm tryna get some sepolia eth into testnet via sepolia faucet... not showing up when I transfer. Anyone know what's up?

[versed warren]

Idea: Each land can be used to create a separate clan. A clan would encourage active players because they would work together to earn points. Every battle, regardless of a win or loss, points would go to your clan. When the clan accumulates 10,000 points, everyone in the clan is rewarded with something. Additionally, the leader (also known as the land holder) receives a fuel pack on top of the clan reward. I believe this is a small idea that could be built upon to encourage activity and community building.

[blazing ferry]

Not sure, I just tried moving some more over and it hasn't shown up yet. I don't recall a delay last time, but maybe I need to wait it out.

[vivid cipher]

Yeah probably. The imx passport is not on sepolia. It’s on imx testnet. So you’ll need to finish the bridging I’d guess. Or maybe you can’t. Since you may have transferred it to your imx passport. Which you don’t actually control on sepolia. Just on imx testnet.

[blazing ferry]

Oh yeah, what Pelican said. Hopefully you used this. Mine is there now.

[vivid cipher]

Dang. Im slow.

[blazing ferry]

More thorough

[tardy falcon]

I got it... @icy thicket helped me out. I didn't realize you had to add the funds from the imx wallet. Even then was still having trouble... I was trying to do it from the marketplace screen. I had to go to the main page and thennnn add funds... which then worked when I added funds. All good now.

[barren turtle]

Any news on Conv.s dropping below 50%? I heard that was on the table.

[hearty cradle]

@weary bluff

dont ever change dude
every web3 project need to listen to their investors (customers) to survive

[weary bluff]

❤️ glad that few ppl appreciate what we r trying to do here

honestly ive never seen a project be tolerated so much, if it was some other project it would be much worse. its only because ilv is really building cool shit that it survived so long.

[weary bluff]

still alive :D:D ilv team cant get rid of me that easy

[weary bluff]

thank youuu, i did : P plan to continue today

[trim cairn]

sir how to playing

[hearty cradle]

how many people in the team or in the council actively farming airdrops?

[weary bluff]

i doubt any of them does, unless its mavia, cuz we know where all this came from : D

but mavia had balls to actually give some $ to ppl and insta unlock

still pulled 10$ per token somehow , dont ask me how : D

[hearty cradle]

mavia had staking on bybit, bullish dau and download tweets, had shillers shilling

[blazing ferry]

Why are people mad at Big Time?

Airdrop was too small?

Ah, found it in #💰〕token of course 😁

[weary bluff]

ppl will see me as the messiah some day

https://tenor.com/view/he-is-the-messiah-monty-gif-19570851

[blazing ferry]

Scary thought!

Sounds like dark days

[weary bluff]

it will be if ppl dont listen

ive explained in detail in #1229779157324398664 message without knowing its taking 6 months

add 6 months to this its impossible not to fail.

thats just the things i am able to foresee, theres much more to it that will drag us down.

and thats just bout the airdrop, dont even wanna start about land.. : D

[blazing ferry]

yeah, it's good we didn't take it this far. I think the 6 months will be optional, right?

[weary bluff]

no, 6 months long will be the airdrop itself to grind

[blazing ferry]

optional and incentivized

oh, I see

[weary bluff]

then u get 3-6 + another 6 months vesting

effectively skipping bull.

[blazing ferry]

yep

[weary bluff]

im not sure how the ppl in charge are so blind or incompetent.

i guarantee we r gettin 5-10-20$ airdrops or most ppl will.

for 6 months grind.

but hey, lets not listen to the crazy bulgarian and go ahead with this : D

[blazing ferry]

It is 5 months btw, not that it really changes the point you're making

I think a big takeaway from your concern is that Illuvium really needs to have a crystal clear dashboard that shows not only your points, but your current ranking and POINT % of the total. We don't want people to grind 5 months with no idea of where they're at or how much to expect. Right?

I don't think they will shorten the 5 months, but they can make it better by making this clear

[weary bluff]

nah, we cant allow that to happen

with 200k we cant even go beyond month

a week is perfect imo : D

[blazing ferry]

Why not?

[weary bluff]

for 5 months we need millions and not 1-2

cuz its extremely small airdrop

[blazing ferry]

Depends on the number of players

[weary bluff]

more and more projects push away users with such bs

ye and u think that the most popular and high quality game wont pull numbers?

i believe we will set records.

[blazing ferry]

Ok, so lets say the 200k ILV marketing builds extra hype and brings in some extra players who like to farm airdrops.

They can make a dashboard like this that shows progress and current status, release that 2 weeks into the OB, then people can see where they stand and make a decision if it's worthwhile to keep going or not

[weary bluff]

that is absolutely irrelevant for 5 months grind. ull see some points, not what ull get.

[blazing ferry]

Some will stick around because the game is good. Others trying to do it for a living will leave then and consider themselves saved of spending another 4.5 months grinding before learning what the potential is

[weary bluff]

its ok to be able to track ur points, but when u dont know the end result, still doesnt help

airdrops are not about any of that. and none of the grinders thinks like that.

we will have hype when ilv hits 600 $ and ppl r grinding, but when it goes back to 50$ and their earnings are 0.2

wyd then

[blazing ferry]

Just show it in ILV and not $

[fair temple]

Say goodbye to the shitty airdrop farmers. That is not a healthy target audience anyways.

[weary bluff]

theyll be the ones that burry us post airdrop, but i can guarantee that there will be many displeased from the ilv community too

[blazing ferry]

Yeah, we don't need them. We also don't want them to grind 5 months for nothing though and FUD the project like crazy

[weary bluff]

u cannot, i repeat, u cannot do such small airdrop for 5 months , skip bull and give ppl 20$ with 9 months - 12 months vesting

for 5 months we need MILLIONS of ilv, 3-4-5

[fair temple]

Probably wouldve been better to sell 200K ILV in the forge and then do a 20M dollar worth marketing campaign 😛

[blazing ferry]

I think you raise some very valid concerns for the project, but this is where you always loose me, when you're unwilling to compromise or consider any alternatives.

This won't go anywhere until you accept that Kieran is doing 5 months and the best way for you to help is suggest how to do that and minimize the downside risk you're presenting.

[weary bluff]

i cannot compromise when theyve put 0 thought in this. i compromised when i said 1 month. recommended is 1 week for 200k

[blazing ferry]

Maybe, hard to say what's best for web3

[weary bluff]

so when ppl get 0.2 and its during bull and they can unlock lets say 30% instantly on 500$ ilv

they can get some shit

[fair temple]

Plan of Illuvium was never to cater to web 3 in the first place.

[blazing ferry]

True, it's a big shift, big call. Time will tell if it's the right one. I think it's tough web2 gamers are still not very accepting either.

[weary bluff]

thats not true due to them expecting such big spendings in game. web2 users will not do that.

theyre expecting u to pay $ daily for runs, thats not happening

theyve setup the system so badly, that they expect even land holders to pay to play.

which is the biggest red flag ever, u paid 2 years ago for land and u still cant play ? cmon : D

600$ land is not a joke. if it was 20 $ id agree

this is 1 month work in my country, 600$

some ppl dont even get 600$

most actually.

[ocean haven]

you can buy 10 AAA games for the price of a T1 land, web2 gamers will laugh at you

[weary bluff]

thats what i said, we paid 72m $ , which is equal to 1-2 million copies of AAA game

and they cant even build a damn companion game

red flags have always been here, yall r just too blinded by hype.

and they use that against you.

[fair temple]

The plan was for Web2 not to realise that it is a web3 game. and the onboarding would go behind their backs. You are able to register with email only to make an Immutable passport. And then you can onramp fiat easily. All of that is already possible.

And so there is no need to focus on Web3. Just make a good, fun game. And web2 players spend thousands of dollars every year. (Look at lords mobile. Thats a crazy spending game. Where even I spent 150$ in a single month only to realise i was out of my league lol)

[blazing ferry]

Agreed, I do think it was a tough call though and we'll just need to wait and see how it plays out

[weary bluff]

the biggest advantage of ilv is also its weakest link. which is popularity

u fk up, u get burried

u think big time is having hard time? lol , ppl havent even heard about them

wont be the case with ilv.

[radiant sky]

Hey man, hope you had a wonderful birthday

[fair temple]

You didnt tag Rogier!!!

[pearl marten]

He was referring to Battlecries 😄 - i think he had his bday also yday

[weary bluff]

diddd, bout to go out in a bit again

ty : P

[pearl marten]

glad you're still alive 😄

[radiant sky]

Rogier rugged me with leaking that Video too early, doesn't deserve it.
Just kidding, he has today, no?

[radiant sky]

Have fun

[weary bluff]

hahaha : D:D one of the few around here :D:D

[pearl marten]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-snow-battle-horses-gif-20597424

[hearty cradle]

this is just impossible rn

[radiant sky]

Na man, i think most people See some value in what you are saying most of the times, but also most people can't handle the words you are using, presenting those arguments 🙃

[devout panther]

There will be another reset to the land ?

[hearty cradle]

onramping is so far from easy

[weary bluff]

well, the streets i grew up on arent very friendly and ive caught some of that : D

[hearty cradle]

the benchmark is appstore/playstore onboarding

very easy to buy gems

[radiant sky]

I guess it takes a while for OW and Arena to be on appstore/playstore

[weary bluff]

ow can never make it there, can it ?

[radiant sky]

It can, they already experimenting with assets to Make it possible

So far pretty confident they can do a scaled down Version for mobile

[narrow oasis]

After seeing Runescape 3 be released on mobile with every single features, I think any game is possible

[weary bluff]

i guess i might be underestimating the latest generations of phones

[narrow oasis]

oh they do still get burning hot 😅

[hearty cradle]

i was referring to the ease buying stuff on apple store

[fair temple]

Illuvium always makes the impossible happen!

:p

[narrow oasis]

Apple doesn't have a problem with dev selling things. They just want to be sure to have their 30% commission fee, always.

[radiant sky]

Sure, but there's not much to buy for a Long time

[ancient nacelle]

Especially since we won't be producing fuel for a long time yet. Still a massive fail not having land producing prior to OB. Delaying scanning and producing blue prints etc.

[weary bluff]

thats what im sayin, we fail on so many fronts, when i add it all up , u can imagine what the end result will be.

wait till the dude with gazillion ilv checks out the result and dumps his bag

i just hope we sell before him : D

[hearty cradle]

i prefer we do longer testnet testing
one, better security, less bugs
two, might get IZ P2E launched with OB

three, better fuel usage data so we can set better fuel price

[dusky copper]

true

[radiant sky]

One and two agree, already written down in an iip Next to other reasons 😄
To point three, i feel data is anyways not much worth as long as we airdrop value

[hearty cradle]

issue is, we dont know the supply of each fuel type coming from IZ
so the ingame demand, like amount of fuel for travel and curing shards need to be adjusted

it is easier if we dont have IZ, but here we are

how do u determine the ceiling price without it? how often ru going to revise the price ceiling before people get mad?

[weary bluff]

security is out of the question.

it requires millions and millions into anticheats , doubt ilv will spend that

theres only 2 games in the world with good anticheat

fortnite and valorant (league of legends also uses same anticheat)

no other game has good anticheat

even those are being breached very often.

i know people that spend thousands on hardware to avoid anticheats and earn from fortnite, u wont believe how much theyll spend to cheat in ilv when it has so much earning potential.

@young nacelle can tell you what happened in league of kingdoms , literally 30 mins after new patch and a ban wave , a new update for the cheats is coming.

it came to the point where they started banning innocent people that are too efficient , i recorded my gameplay , showed them my efficiency on multiple occasions with video recording, still got banned.

[radiant sky]

Yea, thats a big debate arround the whole botting/cheating.
Johnny actually started a first thread about that topic
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1230689178837319680

[weary bluff]

its unwinnable fight.

ill support whatever they do to stop it ofc, but its impossible to stop it.

[radiant sky]

Agree

[weary bluff]

this was a while ago, 1st and 2nd place were cheating. 2nd place got banned, still took the reward that was mine. i recorded him, but they paid him

took my 2k $ and left .

he cheated in the last sec, i was expecting it and recorded him, didnt mean shit.

i was the best f2p mf in that game, or one of them. they didnt respect my grind in the end tho.

[jaunty forge]

imagine ILV would create its own AI agent bot that we could educate to manage our city, put every one on the same level playing field

[weary bluff]

thats what we suggested in LoK. instead of only cheaters having some automated stuff, everyone should . especially when such games require u to play 24/7

i had alarms on every hour, just so i can grind stuff. literally for year and a half.

[jaunty forge]

I give up, I own 12 peace of land, its too much management, but if it could be automated the way I want then maybe I would think of buying more land it would be nice, now I thing of selling them and buying t4 only

[weary bluff]

check out trading first, so u can reduce loss.

honestly after grinding to lvl 1000+ on a t1, i can say that the amounts of time it requires from me was annoying, so i feel you with 12 plots : D but maybe LoK ruined me, i overdid it there.

[jaunty forge]

Also there is too much notification of leveling up or confirmation that makes us clicking 2-3 times more than we should, if we could have an option to avoid all these notification that would be amazing

it would improve my gameplay experience

[weary bluff]

+1

[thorn shadow]

There will be bots 100 percent

but not allowed i think

[young nacelle]

I think I'm on the wrong server

The team is working hard to resolve it.

I guess we should remain focus chat stuff here related with ILZ.

You are welcome to chat there again 😊

Have a good weekend! 😃

[weary bluff]

xaxaxa 😄 its ok, we have to learn from other games. which is why i gave it as example.

and i was talking for last year, i quit LoK a while ago : p

but its normal that they have same issues still

[young nacelle]

Thank you for your understanding.
Every project games will have own issues.
Just like country, have their own problem too!
Just take time and patience from good people who understand the situation.

[young nacelle]

Imagine if there is a perfect project without an issue.
Where is that place call?
Well well, off topic.
Family time by the way, check in again later!

[weary bluff]

ilv if i was on the team ;3 hahaha : D

have fun and see ya : p

alright guys, see u around, imma go watch The Fall Guy

[dusky copper]

what is level max of the extractors ?

and nexus ?

[ancient nacelle]

9

At the moment. Could change.

[dusky copper]

how many fuel can you make with a max tier 1 ?

[timber sapphire]

Can still change, we have to wait for open beta

[dusky copper]

the open beta on mainnet will open after the beta v4?

[vivid cipher]

No. There will be open beta testnet first.

[dusky copper]

ah so the private beta 4 will be only for 1 month then it's gonna be on public

[vivid cipher]

Yes

[dusky copper]

but wait .. people with lands and who didnt got access to beta 4 ... could they play IZ before the public beta ?

[vivid cipher]

The new build will be playable when they finish it and push it out. The old build can be played now.

So…🤷

[dusky copper]

and the new build will be available in beta 4 .. my question is .. in case i didnt got picked for beta 4 , could i play IZ in the new build

[vivid cipher]

I have not heard that the new build for IZ will be available in beta 4. They are still working on it.

[dusky copper]

oh really ? okay .. I just assumed it

[vivid cipher]

That’s the biggest issue with IZ. It’s not ready yet.

[dusky copper]

but i heard +50 bulding or smtg

it's for ob ?

[fresh star]

So its not gonna be available on the 30th?

[long grove]

hey what happened with the #land owners channel????

[dusky copper]

update the role

u dont have it

[narrow oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/hope-is-everything-have-hope-hopeful-theres-a-chance-positive-vibes-gif-17057497

[long grove]

lol nw

[narrow oasis]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1043838185446330388

[long grove]

yes

thx

[tall crypt]

Inscription: 15- 30 May, waiting begin 28 days, test(How much?) 2-3mounts. definitive Illuvium on setember.

[vivid cipher]

I’m afraid I need translation

I do get that you are saying the timeline from the team is unreliable but other than that I’m not sure

[vivid cipher]

Uncertain

[tall crypt]

No, I'm not saying that the schedule is uncertain. What I'm saying is that between whistles and flutes we won't have the full Illuvium until September, which seems outrageous to me.

[azure pilot]

are land sales down right now? I cant find any listed anymore?

[thorn shadow]

maybe youre on the sandbox site

[azure pilot]

okay what are the different addresses respectively. Sry Noob here

[thorn shadow]

just illuvium.io and not sandbox.illuvium.io

[azure pilot]

okay ty ill check

got it thank you doncoupon

[rotund forum]

I don´t think this is correct? Closed beta (<10K persons) starts tuesday. This takes a month. Then it will be available for everyone in the month of June. Then July Open beta (the actual release).

Correct me if I am wrong.

The testnet open beta is not limited to just 1 month, but on the other hand Open beta (on real ethereum) is slated for Q2. It was always kind of clear that would be end of Q2, but that would mean July we have the real deal. And fingers crossed IZ is ready on time as well.

[tardy falcon]

FadiFuddy

[rotund forum]

The one thing I don´t have clear is whether IZ will be included in testnet, and if it is included I assume it will be reset to zero, but will it be a newer version or the one we have been playing until now

I would love to see the new zoom out backgrounds and new animations.

[vivid cipher]

It won’t be included unless the new version is ready.

And it won’t be ready for April 30

[dusky copper]

but the progress in IZ will reset ?

[rotund forum]

But if you go to the illuvium zero website you can see the new backgrounds, the new animations. That site has been there for quite some months. I understand one of the devs had health issues (hope he is doing better 🙏🏻) but if we got not the finished open beta version but something upgraded from what we have been playing for half a year now would be awesome. But we’ll see. I said this muñtiple times before. Patience is hard, so if they throw us a bone and it is at least some updated version that would really excite me already

[rotund forum]

No, but in testnet closed beta it would make sense they reset IF it is included).

[vivid cipher]

They will just keep working on it to get it ready for open beta launch. Taking time to roll out some halfway there build is unlikely to happen.

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[rotund forum]

Ok that might be true, that would be unfortunate. But regarding the play to earn airdrop they have clearly said ALL games. So in that sense IZ would be included in testnet beta, you really think they will just reset and put in that half year old version?

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Soon more info

[mortal mural]

i got one idea you gonna hate me lol for the amount of work lol. hopefully ai makes more than half the work

[high sleet]

Hahah what did u have in mind?

[mortal mural]

How long are land held categories , which of them were active from each time category. Chart . Put sell events. Any correlations are there minimums or thresholds of whatever. Delay events. Make hypothesis on model wait future results. Not definitely for a now video since lands has no utility yet. But maybe to track them as we get to use them

To make sort of mvrv x score that is used for btc

[high sleet]

Long-term vs short term holders type deal

The hard part about making videos is finding a way to package it

The topic can't be too niche

I can have this sort of analysis but whats the big picture message for the video

[mortal mural]

I think you could do one for ILV token as well but I think you can currently do with someone’s tools already.

[high sleet]

Yes thats the ticket

'Health of Illuvium'

[mortal mural]

It’s super niche lol just an idea

[high sleet]

The trick to getting views is taking a niche idea, and packaging it for a broader audience

And views is a representation of audience interest

Which is a representation of a videos overall value

[mortal mural]

Nevertheless even if it’s not popular to do a video now it would interesting to track such data and twist it a little more to get cool data to show for general interest

Maybe compare different projects this way. But I know it’s a ton of work

[high sleet]

Oh no you misunderstand what I am saying. You can make any idea popular. But u need to add in a solid reason for people to care and to watch.

I'd say most don't care about 'Who has held land the longest'.
But many would care about 'what does this land analysis say about the projects future'

[mortal mural]

I got the idea on my notes anyway and will keep adding and comment them to you. Maybe one sticks lol

[high sleet]

Hahah shoot me whatever, I am always looking for new ideas

I suspect my next 2-3 weeks are going to mostly be Overworld tutorials

With an obligatory, how many runs can u do from land fuel 😛

[mortal mural]

I was thinking about “this longterm/shorterm ratio got us during the Loweest value on lands. And we see it’s reverting or something.” I think it’s a cool idea but we got very little data points to make conclusions

[mortal mural]

Mandatory. Since launch it’s coming we need all the fire power we need

I saw the map and the gpt video and I absolutely loved it.

[high sleet]

It was a lot of fun to make

I still cant believe it made a map

[mortal mural]

It was jaw dropping

[high sleet]

I wonder what else I could get it to build

A map with concentration of crypton for example

Like a fuels heat map

Or in the future, a map with a concentration of scanners

[rotund forum]

so, when are we actually gonna know we are in the 10k Beta?

[high sleet]

To show where all the blueprints are being grinded

[rotund forum]

we just get an email

[high sleet]

Thats my guess

[rotund forum]

ok then.

[mortal mural]

I would love this idea if we start having different resource per region.

[high sleet]

Would just look cool. But an overlay of scanners versus fuel would be cool

Eg if x person uses a scanner

then u can essentially remove y crypton from their land production

Making crypton more scarce and valuable

By extension if we assume fire and water regions will have the most popular blueprint farms

[mortal mural]

That it’s actually legit

I haven’t thought about that

Take nooootes

[cunning surge]

Yo, do I have to register for pb4, if I have land or I’ll be automatically granted it?

[ancient nacelle]

Must register. Find your fav youtuber and use their link.

[high sleet]

Take notes?

[ancient nacelle]

You know...😉

Read between the lines...

[mortal mural]

On your ideas write them down

English not my first language

[high sleet]

You are writing them down? Or I am?

[mortal mural]

I wrote them down. In case you forget lol

[high sleet]

Yesss thank you

I have a terrible memory

[cunning surge]

Why cant i join with my account, it request me to log in only via immutable passport, but i didn't make it, can i join pb with my current account?

[ancient nacelle]

you can use your email that you use currently to login to play, but immutable passport creates a testnet address for you.

You don't need your ETH address for testnet.

[weary bluff]

you should , but unfortunately assets mean nothing to ilv team

[serene iris]

Would kill to be able to zoom the zero map out more on PC

[vivid cipher]

That’s part of the new build they are finishing

[broken roost]

We have been asking for this for 2 years now, it always is "being finished"

[hearty cradle]

damn ur starting to make sense

[weary bluff]

tellin you, im the messiah, just nobody knew it

[hearty cradle]

it doesnt mean its bad, it could mean huge inflow of farmers then they find out they need to spend to farm and some left. the one staying might try to make money by selling loots to whales

[weary bluff]

ye, cuz whales r stupid and theyll just buy everything after spending 50-100k on lands and god knows how much in beyond

[hearty cradle]

lets hope the whales buy everything up. im gonna try to farm to sell to whales

we need some weekly leaderboard prize

5 months payout is a bit harsh

[weary bluff]

theres nothing crucial in ilv that whales should buy, theyll be the sellers in ilv, thats how i see it

[hearty cradle]

big time had success

and their economic was from crafting to farm leaderboard prize

[weary bluff]

these prizes are not tied to airdrop or u talk about airdrop

i heard $PARAM, the second most farmed airdrop recently after $BLOCK will have 50 months vesting

not sure if its true or not, but .. way to make ur supporters troll you and leave you : D

[hearty cradle]

two things:

1. Huge 180k airdrop at the end of 5 months.
2. Weekly leaderboard airdrop

[hearty cradle]

didnt realize this airdrop meta is crumbling

[weary bluff]

oh its gone, people r leaving farming now, lots of ppl.

[hearty cradle]

it was good, but went bad because everyone is doing it

[weary bluff]

its gonna be pretty much bots and poor countries going on such things

[hearty cradle]

problem is there are more farmers than investors

[weary bluff]

which means that no income will come from that, no people will be retained, no future payments, nothing

[hearty cradle]

look at wormhole and portal

[weary bluff]

that was always gonna be the case in such things, i know only couple of people that still play mavia post airdrop for example

portal was the one that set this trend, but they also had money.

[hearty cradle]

hard to invest in portal when they dnt even have a discord

[weary bluff]

i faded it, homies took lots of cash around it

which is why i started farming others after

one thing is certain, we must write everywhere with HUGE letters that the airdrop is 5 months , so people are aware what theyre gettin into, we must be absolutely clear about all rules, vesting, everything. that would atleast manage a bit of bad stuff, cuz some projects dont reveal lots of things and its doing a lot of damage.

then kieran needs to start thinking about emergency funds for post airdrop, cuz ppl gettin 5$ after 5 months of grind just wont happen

we might need 5-10 times more ilv at least to handle the situation

not sure how nobody understands that ilv skipping bull on their airdrop and claiming is bad. u have huge potential in the coin, but u decide to deliever it when it costs nothing

vesting is also very bad idea, very. the choices theyve made atm = skipping bull (low cost ilv) + small airdrop (0.1-0.2 per person) + vesting

which means that you choose to drive people away from your project , get fudded, instant token dump, cuz ure entering or ure well into bear and prices r only going to go down. so not only we lose playerbase, but we also take damage, the token takes damage.

no vesting and shorter , much shorter airdrop would mean that only the token price will take some damage, even if its small airdrop. it will not be as bad.

but, if the airdrop is short enough, ppl might not even dump as theres still bull.

they must think about next bull too, not just to empty their bags this bull. if we make bad name for ilv there will be no playerbase , nobody will ever get their investment back.

big time will look like a good project compared to us , trust me : D

[hearty cradle]

yea everything need to be decided and communicated very clearly ASAP

i think vesting is fine as long as it is announced before people starting to farm

[weary bluff]

small vesting to boost earnings could be good ONLY if airdrop doesnt last more than a month

ilv has to face the music, they were slacking, they did not deliever for this bull

so they must just accept that and not force such bs

im tellin you, we are on the road to just lose everything. if everything that i see coming comes to pass, there will be no ilv next bull. u need playerbase to give value to ANY assets earned in game, u need ppl to buy fuel

they will sacrifice the project in order to take token profits

and council will support that, cuz of huge bags.

[lost walrus]

testnet prices are good for sure hahaha

[weary bluff]

.. ilv team lives in another universe for sure, theyre not from around here.

[vivid cipher]

Everyone is a whale on testnet

[chilly ravine]

How about Zero for tomorrow? Is it in Epic Gamelauncher included or separate Download ?

[narrow oasis]

Zero is not ready and don't know when it will be.

[weary bluff]

i thought we were supposed to receive info on that last week

should i switch to aggressive mode? : D

[narrow oasis]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[dreamy cipher]

yes pls you the only one who can be IZ land holder voice

[weary bluff]

i dont understand why they go to council and not to community with such things, who tf is council

we should know whats being discussed

they go vote for shit that we dont approve and then what

its because of council that we are in this situation overall

started 2 years ago with silv2 purchases for land

since then things only get worse and worse.. . ..

[radiant sky]

Yea, i don't get that either.

[weary bluff]

we run multi million project here with bunch of incompetent ppl...

some bag holders r bout to ruin the project and we just let it happen

[dusky copper]

When will we know that if we have access to beta 4 or not ?

[radiant sky]

They start sending out Mails with Codes for epic Games launcher at April 30

[weary bluff]

yep, thats when the bad things start happening

watch the chats here when ppl dont have access.

we were supposed to be excited and have a good time around the game and launch and here we are, expecting only shit happening.

thats after we have paid for the game.

[iron veldt]

I also think that holders should have access

holding my 3 lands for a long time now, feels bad to get nothing

[weary bluff]

bro with 72m i will build all the games with zero experience

and ill still do better

[iron veldt]

Nah, Illuvium is hard to create. Trust me bro - 50mil plus is nothing for such a game

[weary bluff]

i remain unconvinced

graphics make no game. and thats all ilv has. graphics, atleast from what ive seen. i heard theyre steppin up now, but i am fairly certain ppl will be disappointed due to lack of stuff in game

[iron veldt]

that’s true

but all in all I’m not that angry, because I’m big in plus

[weary bluff]

if they cant even build 2d companion game in 2 years, i can only imagine in what state ow is

[iron veldt]

even if ILV fails, i have other projects to cover the losses

[weary bluff]

thats very good.

[iron veldt]

never bet everything on one horse! 🐎

[weary bluff]

tbh 2 years ago there werent that many good stuff to invest in

which is why ilv sucked everything out of the holders here

[iron veldt]

yeah, but let’s be positive. We won’t know how the future will look like

maybe everything will be fine / maybe not

illuvium just needs to get enough players

[weary bluff]

i leave the positive for the token holders, theyre the only ones set up for profit atm.

[iron veldt]

Totally agree

[weary bluff]

until ilv team starts being responsible for the money they have received, they get no positive from me

or until they ban me

cuz im a nobody, nobody will care if im gone, no effect whatsoever , theres nobody to tell.

[radiant sky]

Probably happens first 😂

[weary bluff]

i dont even expect the first to become a thing , ever

they would have done it by now

i mean.. being responsible for asset owners : d

to ilv team and council, 20k lands are worth 1.4m, thats it.

its nothing.

which is why they beat themselves in the chest when they send 15$ pixels

valuable shit means having more value than u paid for it, thats not happening for land. ever.

[narrow oasis]

Unfortunately, some decision-making people think that a high DAU (bots included) is more important than a high number of real players.

[weary bluff]

thats just it.. theyre building everything like we gonna have 20m active players and they will all pay top dollar to play

we would be lucky to get to 10k imo

post airdrop i mean

[radiant sky]

Was hoping for 50k with proper marketing 😐

[weary bluff]

well, depends how much we destroy the ilv name with these decisions around airdrop, about investors being unhappy etc

wont be surprised if we go lower than arena : D

we still havent seen the land dump race, it might start tomorrow.

[narrow oasis]

More of these as we go into PB4: #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[weary bluff]

yep, high % of holders dont know how much theyre screwed yet due to lack of communication

but thats on purpose.

i honestly cannot wait to see the posts about ilv like those for big time

itll fill me with joy, cuz i warned yall

and 20 ppl at most tried to prevent it

the unsung heroes here

and when that happens i hope the token price dumps, so the council and the other bag holders do not make profits

atleast we should all be screwed the same way : D

[frozen finch]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-dead-beating-gif-9285411

[weary bluff]

thats the only way to make ilv team care, hurt the token

[dusky copper]

@weary bluff 😂😂 you always crack me up with your complains .. you always find a way to make things look bad lol

Let's be honest here .. illuvium is the best web3 game ever created

[weary bluff]

thank you, i appreciate it : p but its much worse, cuz i am not aware of everything

[hearty cradle]

we are expecting an update on IZ

[dusky copper]

It may have some problems but u cant even compare it to other cryptogames

[weary bluff]

it could be, could have been. could become, but thats if council is changed, if land council is added, if team removes a lot of people that are bad influence

and other factors

[dusky copper]

So you want to join their team ? Nah sorry it's full bro

Lol

[weary bluff]

i would, probably for much less $ than theyre gettin, but even without me on team, theyre gettin all the feedback here for free

they still dont care.

[dusky copper]

We didnt even see what the new changes are gonna be to criticize anything

[weary bluff]

well tbh we r mainly discussin the airdrop lately

[dusky copper]

Just wait for now .. the testnet with the new updates is soon .. then you can start criticizing stuff

[weary bluff]

until we have the info, but they didnt give the info

[dusky copper]

Which info do you want ? 😅

How many lands you got ? + Which tier ?

[weary bluff]

bout the proposed changes

1 t1, but is it relevant?

[dusky copper]

No just asking ..

[dusky copper]

Wait for it

• how much did u get in tbe airdrop ?
  For me i didnt have land on 24/04

I mean 14/04

[weary bluff]

havent checked my wallet in a while, last i checked i had 15$ worth of pixels dropped

[dusky copper]

What ?They dropped pixels ?

[weary bluff]

fuel

[dusky copper]

Thought it's gonna be higher than just 15$ lol

[weary bluff]

ahahhaahah

[dusky copper]

But didnt they drop 50k ILV ?

[weary bluff]

no the entire airdrop was 1m $

not sure what these 50k ilv are

[dusky copper]

You sure about that ?

[weary bluff]

100%

not even $, its pixels