🎮〕illuvium-zero

[lapis gulch]

How would you feel if I say I'll make land great again. Get elected. Then I go and defend Vetemor's proposal? You're saying I should be representing all people after all. @iron veldt

[trail forge]

Well if you truly believed that his proposal makes land great again then I dont see a problem with that

As long as you're acting honestly in the best interest of the DAO that is what is important

[iron veldt]

We want just to have - what was promised - we, the landowners put nearly twice as much money into ILv in IDO compared to the tokenholders.

We shouldn’t be abandoned with this idea of DAO-fakefuel-communism

[trail forge]

Things change and evolve over time. Thats just part of the DAO

[iron veldt]

also there is no reason to think that you can onboard more players with fixed prices!

[trail forge]

In arena we were promised that Stage 1 Illuvials would act as Stage 3s in the Ascendent Arena

Now that has changed

[iron veldt]

But this is a change - that proposal is a 300% downgrade to every landowner

[trail forge]

At the end of the day it is up to the community and the council to vote for what they want to see

[trail forge]

This is just your opinion though. Just like the people who upvoted Vetemors proposal have their own opinion

You can't just pretend that what you want is 100% right

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion

[lapis gulch]

You have the power to vote for a representative that protects your interest.

[whole spear]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-rich-prosperous-upper-class-wealthy-monied-gif-12532648

Wait I'm Rich

[trail forge]

I just happen to be right more often that not

[iron veldt]

I’m happy that nearly 4x the amount downvoted his idea

[trail forge]

See and that is the power of the DAO in action

People are allowed to believe different things

Do I think you are right? No of course not. But thats life

18 people still upvoted the proposal. Does their opinion not matter?

[iron veldt]

Noone is right when Ilv gets destroyed through short ideas

[lapis gulch]

People also voted on alpha disks. See how well that turned out...

[iron veldt]

Every opinion matters - but in fact Vetemor is the only proposal who upvoted himself 🤣

[trail forge]

Fine 17 other people then haha

[lapis gulch]

You have no way of knowing which thing will be better for the land owners.

[trail forge]

Exactly

[lapis gulch]

But are not open to discuss options.

I'm waiting for the debate tomorrow.

I'm open to be proven wrong.

[trail forge]

Yup feel free to ask questions or have comments in the Town Hall

[iron veldt]

True, that i also have not such a big overview- like you guys too.
That’s why we are in a democracy here.

I just asked to not forget us landholders!

[lapis gulch]

It was a cheap shot of Aaron to put Vet's proposal as an alternative to his, by specifying the team will have the time for one or the other.

[iron veldt]

Because calling us "this is no real game" is not appealing to me

[lapis gulch]

I'm a land owner myself. With double digit lands. I still don't see how OW players need to know what land is if they don't want to. And should be able to use dollars they know and trust.

[trail forge]

You arent being forgotten. Vetemor states that he thinks you will earn more money with his proposal!

And so do I

[iron veldt]

I can’t really see that - because that means that with your idea you onboard more players. And it’s not like that! - you can’t prove it
I myself own a small company with over 300.000 positive online reviews. I know at least a little bit how marketing works.
And in my opinion this won’t onboard more players.
But that is just my point of view and i can accept other thinking’s.

[lapis gulch]

As long as we're open to discussion, we're going somewhere. I'm expecting a good debate tomorrow.

[trail forge]

See you have your opinion and we have ours on that issue

I wouldnt support it if I didnt think itd bring in more players

Thatd be silly

[iron veldt]

Yeah and that are my big doubts about this proposal. People don’t fly into the game just using fixed prices.

[lapis gulch]

I'm curious KornKeks, did you try to sell ilv to gamer friends of yours? Did they understand the intricacies of the economics?
I personally had trouble doing it. Most of the steps seem unnecessary to them.

[iron veldt]

That’s also one reason it could be maybe easier to implement with the passport

[hearty cradle]

need to realize that some of them never owned a business or run one

[iron veldt]

IMX - passport is an idea to onboard people!
Fixed prices are not - at least that is my opinion

[devout panther]

It depends a lot on who explains

[whole spear]

I do have high hope about IMX Passport after talking to our Lead Architect Itamar

[trail forge]

Explaining Web3 anything is a pain in the ass

Which is a problem

[iron veldt]

Yes, that is our future!

[iron veldt]

IMX passport is the solution in this case

at least i think so

but also many others

[whole spear]

I don't think it solves their issue of gamers not liking unfixed prices

But I think the money exchanging becomes easier

which in turn maybe makes new things better to digest for them

[trail forge]

Yes it doesnt solve the price issue but anything to ease the onboarding is a positive step

Each tiny step forward matters

Until Web3 Game just equals Game

Thats the ultimate goal

[iron veldt]

IMX passport could be really a big step tbh.

[trail forge]

I'm certainly hopeful that it is

Am I skeptical still because of the current sentiment? Of course. But there's always hope

[iron veldt]

people won’t really see that they are playing a web3 game with this technology

[whole spear]

I did both, I bought WoW gold from secondary... it was a great experience and I got int trading those markets, I think people less into gaming would care more about a fixed price at least IMO. Like those are the people that casually play and want a little step up, then anyone playing a lot they are the ones who could care less what the price is but their gonna optimise getting it at the right times because they are gamers and thats what they do.

Its just another game inside the game

[iron veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-a-beer-tchalla-black-panther-gif-13390253

[worthy panther]

people won't really see that they are playing a game right now🤷...nobody talks about gameplay here😥...money, how to makes money, ROI, onboard gamers...but never gaming and how increase fun😓

[iron veldt]

Actually there is a lot of fun when it comes to auctionhouses and markets of items.
People are different, some like trading in games or in general.
Some like catching some monsters, while some others maybe just love aspects of playing the arena-part of the game. There are plenty of gamer-types around the world.

It’s just important that everyone has a voice. That is web3 at it’s finest!

[devout panther]

Unfortunately, developing games in the best way takes a long time

[worthy panther]

Yep, i know that...but if you don't talk about something you're far away developing it😬

[devout panther]

I m leterally no one here lol but i think we are close to play

[iron veldt]

noone is no one in here!

[devout panther]

over 2 years we can finaly produce nothing 😂

[trail forge]

Roadmap was recently posted and everything is close

Just gotta hang in a bit longer

[sly summit]

How close

[trail forge]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[wispy prism]

I'm wondering this too. Asking the question at the town hall to see if I've missed something.

[empty path]

Looks like they all had a different idea and want the community decide?

[trail forge]

Yup just different ideas of how they want Fuel to work

[wispy prism]

Most likely. Yet I thought maybe it was planned. I would have liked it to be discussed more internally. Then maybe a post with Aaron's and the others hypothesis for feedback.
Take the feedback then come up with something unanimous.

[trail forge]

A lot of thought and discussions went into things internally

[wispy prism]

Sure. Yet it's a load on people who don't understand the content, then have to research and spend a stack of time so they can make an informed decision. I don't really think it should have come to us in the form it did.

[trail forge]

Having them all come out at the same time is the most fair way to do things in my opinion

That way nobody gets an advantage

[wispy prism]

So why still the different ones.
A stale mate?

[trail forge]

Yes people disagreed

[wispy prism]

That obviously didn't happen.

[trail forge]

Well they all came out on the same day at least

[wispy prism]

With no context as to what was going on. Unless I missed that somewhere too.
Aaron's provided context.

Any way. It's a procedure thing for me. Not picking and it shouldn't take away from the content provided.

[trail forge]

What was the context you were looking for so we know for future proposals?

[fair temple]

While Nijafe and Animositas' proposals build upon Aaron's proposal, Vetemor's proposal is in a different direction. After thorough discussions, all 4 proposals are worth mentioning and feature a reasonable way to create the fuel-model.
If the community were to prefer Vetemor's proposal, then Aaron's build wouldn't have to be created and thereby neither Nijafe or Ani's extensions.

So yes they just want the community to show what direction they lean in so that the team can build what the community prefers, unlike the Forge App that the team made before polling community sentiment 🙂
It was necessary to get this right the first time because we only have 5 months before the end of the year and hopefully the launch of the open beta that requires a working, community confirmed fuel model 👍

[wispy prism]

Basically the way Aaron started his. I felt it came out of nowhere. With maybe some clarification. Like we want the opinion of community before we go forward.

[wispy prism]

Thanks Garf.

[timid basin]

Really good collection of accurate statements mostly 🤣

And I mean, the founders would not disagree with OW is a pack opening, they always said it was just that lol, and factually we could have sold loot boxes instead of OW being a thing, but we have OW now…

Really don’t see anything controversial in most of these statements lol

[timid basin]

Well said ser

[trail forge]

Hmm maybe this can be clarified in public better for the future. I forsee this being the most controversial set of proposals this Epoch though

The Town Hall should be able able to answer a lot of questions as well

[wispy prism]

I feel it's changed form.
Personally I find it hard to define illuvium.
Logically I can equate it to a pack opening. Yet when I play it the experience is nothing like I have felt with pack opening. I think it's all semantics.
Over time it will probably be defined. I just call it IBG

[wispy prism]

Thanks.

[trail forge]

Your experience is the exact reasoning for the way things are done the way they are.

It's a pack opening but the experience you have is greatly improved

[iron veldt]

Overworld is not just a pack opening - for some people in the community this is the whole game

[trail forge]

And thats perfectly fine if thats what they choose to do

[wispy prism]

They all work together. It's truly something unique.

[iron veldt]

100% agree - every part of it is important

[wispy prism]

Omg. Illuvium sets a new standard for pack opening games. They are now all like illuvium or wildcard

[trail forge]

Now here's the thing about it.... It takes quite a bit of time and costs quite a bit of money. So it's not exactly easy to replicate like a standard pack is

[wispy prism]

Which is good for illuvium

[trail forge]

100%. Anything that takes this amount of time to replicate gives us a huge edge

[radiant sky]

Soo, after talking for hours about that 1 proposal, what do people think about the other 3?

[iron veldt]

I really like the fractionalized land idea from Ani - and Aarons idea is just the "standard way" to go for me personally

[devout panther]

Could you share the different 3 prop?

[iron veldt]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1126838877429182506

[devout panther]

Thanks

[hearty cradle]

the subcouncil need to grow a pair and stop acting like web2 crybabies

we dont need weak people in web3

web3 is tough and volatile.
deal with it

if they cant handle a fkin 25% volatility. oh boy they will run with tails between their legs in the bear market

fkin ETH went from $4.8K to $800

[oak solstice]

Did u just call me out cuz im Tailless? 🤣

[hearty cradle]

at least u have balls

[devout panther]

In the prop of ani the volatility price of fuel is controlled by selling other land ?

[iron veldt]

Yeah, with fractured landplots

[devout panther]

This is a win win prop thanks

[radiant sky]

What i don't Like with that is Land gets watered down to 100k probably pretty fast and from Start on if i got it right.

Hope the guys can make eli5 tldr in the townhall tomorrow

[hearty cradle]

either way more plots are coming

its capping your upside potential

[empty path]

Not any time soon

[hearty cradle]

ani's proposal might release more supply in the bull

because its based on unique wallet

dilution
dilution
dilution

when the next bear hits, oof plot gonna dip

with higher supply

[empty path]

I didn't read it but that doesn't sound promissing. Sounds bad to me. First make promisses so you can sell a lot and then after the sale change it?

[hearty cradle]

well we gotta sell more land eventually

just need to brace the pain

see how BAYC and azuki got rekt? yeah dilution baby

[devout panther]

Yes but they sell the land when the demand is high i think, it means the player base will increase

[hearty cradle]

ani's proposal of controlled release is actually better than releasing 20k in one go

[radiant sky]

Yea, but in every game you have a Hype Spikes AT the beginning where Way more people join than afterwards are the average playerbase and a while after thatslowly growing if the ip is good.
Sounds Like a shitton of Land is being Sold when game goes live if it happens to be the Same cycle as most Games have.

[devout panther]

Yes but i think in this way they cannot sell land before the launch or close from it because the demand of fuel is 0

After 2/3 month after the game starded they have a lot of data and can decide if it s necessary selling other land or not

[iron veldt]

In my opinion it’s Ani VS Aaron

[radiant sky]

Was never planned to do that. Infact they stated multiple times next landsale is not going to be anytime soon after launch.

[devout panther]

Yes so i m not worried about the land sale to control the fuel production and the linked price in the market

All the 100k of land will be allocated, better do that gradually Insted 20k in a single target, probably i m wrong

[radiant sky]

OK, i Like it the other Way arround a bit more.
Like when i could get some Profits, and the Next landsale of 20k is happening Like 1-2 years after launch, i would actually have some money to snipe a megacity out.
If Lands are dropping into the play pool right after launch, i have no money aquired of my Land to reinvest and sniping for a megacity is pretty mich not possible anymore with that process.

[true sequoia]

Honestly, as a long-term land holder (ie bought to play as part of system, not flip) I find zero boring. I actually find Illuvitars more fun and rewarding (Including ILV). If they dumb down the process of fuel and take away the "game" of timing and incentives, more than likely I would just sell my land and move on, which would probably not be good for the overall system if others followed (or looking at current pricing, already led), and affect future land releases. I also had hoped to directly use fuel for overworld runs, not sell it in zero and have to buy it again, but oh well. Make this a web three game, not like working at a fast food restaurant. Fun, interesting, challenging is key. And for crypto people, not at this point, for web2 gamers.

[hearty cradle]

bit too late to sell now imo

[hearty cradle]

jeff selling 3x3 for 20e was a signal

[radiant sky]

The Signals were given Way before, but that was the "shit too late, or last Chance?" thing

But nothing ist finite... We still have a little bit of time Till Launch 🙃

[mortal smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-bourne-gif-22698046

mega city holders are underwater as we all are but still on the ship regardless 🫡

[devout panther]

For me now it s something like the bottom price of a land, if someone buy now a t1 land in 1 year assuming 1$ daily earn from it have the 100% of the Roi, and 1$ it s not an optimistic prevision

[radiant sky]

Soon this gets advertised... Imo bottom is lower than we are

[devout panther]

What do you mean with that?

I Saw it on beyond channel

[radiant sky]

4/6 rewards sections are skins.
Most likely intended to repeat in future wave/Sets.
GG WP T1

And probably t2 aswell

[devout panther]

Ok, what s the conflict between a land owner ? For the BP?

[radiant sky]

If you have a bp you either use it to create skins or sell it to someone zu use it and create skins.
If Illuvium itself give away skins as rewards for something they sell they Start competing in the skinn Market with other seller.
Having Double the amount in variety (battleboards + Album) puts them even in a superior Position.

[hearty cradle]

FARKKKKK

u got played son

GGWP

seriously

someone need to IIP to counter that

spoon IIP

save ILZ

[devout panther]

With IZ the BP are for the skin of the avatar, of these reward just 1/6 is a skin for avatar

[radiant sky]

Can't. I'm Poor... No landowner/token holder role

[hearty cradle]

what

u only need 1 ILV

[radiant sky]

Yes Avatar and drones are what the bp can create for if it comes to skins

[devout panther]

it is true they can take away some value from BP but compared to these the rewards as skins can not be sold, with the BP yes. Anyway it would be nice to swap those two skins as reward with disk of the new collection, without any possible svalutation

[hearty cradle]

how come beyond get more benefit than ILZ

[devout panther]

isnt it, iz have more benefit, just because of the fuel

the problem now for a landowner is that isnt possible earn with a land, but when the game started the fuel are more important than some skin or the leaderboard

in beyond the Roi is not 100% like a land

[devout panther]

imo the bp considering that can create "infinty" skin have already a low value, but being a gift every gain deriving from these is relative

Are the fees generated by Beyond considered in the pool of 5% of landowners?

[hearty cradle]

no

5% of fuel sales

[empty path]

Not really

[hearty cradle]

what

yes really

[lapis gulch]

You can't create infinity skins. You need 3 illuvials to create a skin.

[devout panther]

Fuel Earnings: Landowners will earn approximately 5% of all in-game revenue. this is write on the wibesite, but for example if i produce 1000 crypton i can sell it for $, the fee genereting from this trade are part of this 5%?

[hearty cradle]

Tx fee is not ingame revenue

thats P2P

[devout panther]

what s the in game revenue ?

[hearty cradle]

fuel

[devout panther]

ok thanks!

[hearty cradle]

Fuel is the ingame currency

[devout panther]

ok but i can sell the fuel on the secondary market like a crypto?

[hearty cradle]

yes

anyone can create an erc20 pool

[lapis gulch]

With the way we're aiming to set up the players fuel store we should aim for EVE online players, not TFT ones.

[hearty cradle]

hmmmmmmm

subcouncil is TFT

[lapis gulch]

Order books. AMMs. Seems to me like you'll need a bachelor's degree to join the marketplace only.

[devout panther]

perfect, so i gain x$ from that trade, the 5% is another "reward" separate from this ?

[hearty cradle]

no

people need fuel to catch illuvials

IZ produce 5% of fuel supply

you get a share of that 5%

[devout panther]

so i cant sell crypton in the secondary market..

[hearty cradle]

u can

u can sell the fuel or use it yourself

u can send it to your friend, jaganite

[devout panther]

ok but i dont understand.. if i sell fuel for $ directly in the secondary market i didnt partecipate into the 5% right ?

[hearty cradle]

u getting the fuel is the 5%

[mortal smelt]

Zero discord is poppin these days, I like it

[hearty cradle]

in a bad doomsday way

[mortal smelt]

Eh Web3 has been like that

[hearty cradle]

just regard the fuel u producing as your return on investment

[mortal smelt]

and the BPs

[hearty cradle]

pffft

no

[radiant sky]

Imagine you own a bakery.
You sell croissants (Ranger skinns) and bread (Mozart skins)
Now Next to you there opens another bakery, they are selling croissants, bread, cheescake(battleboard skins) and Apple pies (Album skin)

[hearty cradle]

u can lose money chasing bp

[mortal smelt]

you would assume the team thought it out

[mortal smelt]

how?

[hearty cradle]

its a gacha

[mortal smelt]

i can farm fuel and get BPs with ease

[hearty cradle]

worthless bp

[mortal smelt]

if they make another game using OW then it could be possible to use BPs there too

just sayin

[hearty cradle]

u can only make money from rare bp

which need luck

most people would lose

[mortal smelt]

who is to say?

cheap items sell too ya know

[hearty cradle]

u see how illuvitar floor is $0.3

that would be floor skin

[devout panther]

The skins in beyond can be selled?

[mortal smelt]

the game isn't even out yet so I got to speculate on that

[radiant sky]

Don't think so

[mortal smelt]

if it is a NFT it can be sold

[hearty cradle]

for 30 cents

[mortal smelt]

lul

[hearty cradle]

[mortal smelt]

.30 is better than 0

fo sho

[hearty cradle]

[mortal smelt]

these are the early stages and anything can go which is why it is exciting, im sure Aaron knows what he is doing and just giving everyone time to put in their input to see if he has any loose ends that he hasn't thought of even with the help of ChatGPT

[hearty cradle]

unless u have a megacity i see no reason to play bp gacha

if i want to gamble i go to rollbit

[ocean haven]

land is a joke at this point, everything will go to illuvitars because they keep spitting out PFP's and keep making money on it, where they already made the money from land.
next news for land will only come before next land sale, so they can try to make more money off it
bascily they have 0 reason to do anything for land before next land sale

[mortal smelt]

it wasn't hard to farm BPs tbh so i don't see where you are getting that idea from

[hearty cradle]

easy = worthless

[devout panther]

Ok if it correct in that example my rival does charity with his products the only sales target you lose in illuvium is that person who has invested in beyond

[mortal smelt]

I'm all ears for whatever sentiment is out there but everyone would be better off tuning in Thursday and giving it all you got if you truly have fears

[hearty cradle]

[hearty cradle]

yea

[radiant sky]

Not totally right.
If i See someone selling a nice skin for 10$ and i See a nice skin i can get in IB if i buy 3 illuvitars on secondary for a total of 1$ i most likely buy the 3 illuvitars

So i get the nice skin, also a 3 different pfps

And saved money i can get maybe a battleboard skins aswell with 10 other illuvitars

[mortal smelt]

Once they get OW to be more engaging, especially with a shooting game then the skins would def be more warranted

[radiant sky]

You mean Ranger skins? Yes, most likely

[mortal smelt]

just right now Illuvitars IS the game to play with prizes to win

I just can't wait for the Genesis block to start on Illuvium it will be historic

[ocean haven]

gg actually feel bad for megacity owners lmao

[mortal smelt]

everyone is talking like they (team) didn't take anything anyone said into consideration, which is kinda sad really

[devout panther]

Good point. With a single BP can i create different type of skin about a single illuvial ?

[radiant sky]

No, 1 type

[hearty cradle]

about what

[mortal smelt]

all the arguments about why this and why that...

[hearty cradle]

how do we know

[mortal smelt]

we will Thursday coming from the "horse's mouth" so to speak

[radiant sky]

How did horses came into That?

[mortal smelt]

Aaron has said he considered all proposals and thought of them beforehand...so that gives me a glimplse into what thought had gone into the Fuel situation

[mortal smelt]

just an expression i was using

[hearty cradle]

horses mouth

[radiant sky]

Sounds weird, but OK 😂

[charred bobcat]

Will the minting window be 1 month long?

[radiant sky]

Unknown, but i doubt it.

[mortal smelt]

Now what would really make land owners mad is to have a 24 hour window to mint the BPs lul

[pseudo pulsar]

About 2month of playing every day

[radiant sky]

I guess it's gona be Like a 4-5 days? Just to Make sure every one has time to mint and no one can reset and mint twice.

[broken roost]

This is so true

Land is forgotten, game is garbage and no one cares about it

And really they have no reason to care

[lethal valley]

hey any time when the blueprint minting begins? what about the end date?

[radiant sky]

Nope, nothing shared yet

[sly summit]

Soon

[ocean haven]

its undeniable, beyond was not supposed to earn, yet they choose to put in earnings from the beginning knowing land owners have
held land for a long time
help test the alpha
waiting for huge delays

still they choose to reward illuvitar holders, says it all

[mortal smelt]

In all honesty Illuvitars is the only "game" up and running and they are improving upon it so I have absolutely no qualms about that, the ILV holders have been patient for Revdis.

[ocean haven]

its not a game lol, its a collection

[mortal smelt]

its a collection that is gamified

[ocean haven]

if you by improve mean giving them rewards, its very clearly to increase sales

and thats way zero get zero love lmao

you get it hah

how is it gemified

[mortal smelt]

lul its ok I was fine with the whole process no sense in me complaining about anything now

[broken roost]

yup, over year passed since the sale and there have been no rewards whatsoever

[mortal smelt]

im just excited about the Gensis block...will be epic

BPs were the rewards and when it was announced nobody had issues with it

[ocean haven]

BP's was annonced before the sale....

[mortal smelt]

my point exactly

[ocean haven]

its not something we got extra, my point is all the extra things will go to beyond becouse they will make money from it, so land will get nothing

[mortal smelt]

Why does it matter so much to you?

[ocean haven]

are you trolling?

[mortal smelt]

no just a serious question

everyone has differing thoughts so I just decided to ask your point of view

[ocean haven]

im just saying what im seeing, and its undeniable, not sure why you think it matters so much to me

why dos it not matter to you? lol

[mortal smelt]

because you keep repeating it so it must be important otherwise you would be done, so I thought you had more to say

[ocean haven]

ok you trolling i anwsered someone lmao

and you startet convon with me, not other way around

[mortal smelt]

im not going to scroll and digging if you are right here

[ocean haven]

feels like your hurt by the truth

[mortal smelt]

no

I have my own opinions and gameplan

[hasty topaz]

Hello fellow mates

[empty path]

Hey cutie

[ocean haven]

thats cool have a nice day

[mortal smelt]

you too

[hasty topaz]

You all have a nice day

So guys I heard BP minting is around the corner

[empty path]

Errr

[hasty topaz]

Any advices on IZ strategies

[radiant sky]

Actually there were some people complaining about that.

[foggy sapphire]

Can all 5 facts per Illuvials be found when scanning?

[empty path]

No

[hasty topaz]

Yes I found them all plus BP

[empty path]

Damn you found 5 facts when there are only 3 in this version, mad skills

[foggy sapphire]

thanks

[radiant sky]

You get facts if a research fails and you are lucky to not have a complete fail.
And there are just 3 facts per illuvial in s1.

So a total of 15 facts in s1

[hasty topaz]

Yes 5 biodata 15 facts 15 BP

Nothing out of this world

That's all you can get in this phase

[true sequoia]

here's my thought on fuel: Let land have a head start to build up fuel and production, then do a soft open on overworld....just keep it to current closed beta participants, but open the system up to the free market. Then, see how prices act, and where they settle. Then after that, implement a system if needed, and do a full open beta. Be a good test of the system anyway.

[radiant sky]

Would you do a reset of progress between soft open and full open Beta?

[neon inlet]

Hello just want to ask questions,, I already have 4 facts, how to get blueprints?

[radiant sky]

Getting lucky.

Maybe build more materials labs to speed up the process.

[hasty topaz]

Keep doing the same thing eventually you will get your BP

If you want to get them faster build more scanner and lab material

Once you have all 15 facts no need to scan more just use lab material so u get the BP

[neon inlet]

Thank you. I'm new in this game,trying to get this BP 😄

[neon inlet]

Okay thank you. so in matrials lab, when i research, I can get BP or Facts in 5% chance right?

[radiant sky]

Welcome 🙂
Always feel free to ask Stuff about IZ in here. A Lot of Kind community members who will help you out fast.

[neon inlet]

Last question, As the photo you send, 3 facts per biodata right? Just to make sure 🙂

[radiant sky]

Yes in s1 it's 3 per piodata

[neon inlet]

Like if I get 3 facts already in this biodata, If I research it again, if I get lucky, I'll get BP?

[neon inlet]

Thanks, appreciate it

[radiant sky]

Yes, facts increase the Chance to get the bp.

[neon inlet]

I am so very grateful for your time. Thanks again.

[gentle grove]

What land owners can talk in the governance channel now

[atomic cobalt]

Hey guys hope you having a fantastic day. Could someone please explain what the zero point transducer is for?

[radiant sky]

In s1 it will be used for minting blueprints

[atomic cobalt]

Does it need to be a specific lvl?

[radiant sky]

Congrats 👍

[radiant sky]

This is not known yet

[timber glacier]

apparently

[atomic cobalt]

Thank you very much

[atomic cobalt]

Yes thanks for that, good information

[hasty topaz]

Yes

[vivid cipher]

Did anyone catch the town hall and hear anything definitive about this? #1138461435995901995 message

[hoary forge]

issn´t it tomorrow?

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/im-from-the-future-michael-j-fox-back-to-the-future-marty-mcfly-gif-11901404

[hoary forge]

that makes sense.

[vivid cipher]

I’ll be back… in like 12 hours

[hoary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-disappearance-time-travel-gif-4584294

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-okay-thumbs-up-melt-lava-gif-9214446

[hoary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/exterminador-do-futuro-gif-20118743

[river ingot]

Says on the FAQ if you build power stations for scanners it should help? When I try it brings effeciency down?

[radiant sky]

Scanners have an area of effect, you can See when you move them. Any Building/plant within this area decreases the Scanners efficiency
Scanner efficiency: 50%-100%

[river ingot]

whoops, I guess I was reading for a lab not for a scanner

[hasty topaz]

That applies to other buildings but scanners should be far from building there is a gray area it shows when you move them when this grey area don't touch any building you can get 100% effeciency

[gentle grove]

Damn this game needs to go to open beta I want ti make some money

[pseudo pulsar]

@gentle grove look into xcad nerd to buy yourself some time re investing back into illuvium not financial advice

[hexed talon]

Zero suppose to be a free market life!

[analog inlet]

Please don't take this the wrong ways but would it have been more accurate to put "ETH fuel sales" since Silv-2 fuel sales do not get added to " 5% fuel related sales" for land owners or Revdis for stake's ? Some new people may not know about Silv2 or its interactions

For example is say half was SILV2 Fuel sales that changes your numbers quite abit

[empty path]

You can't buy fuel with sILV2

[amber atlas]

This bit really needs to say sILV2 and Fuel

and then a separate line item for Fuel Purchases (ETH)

[empty path]

Yeah that would explain it better. Seems like people still don't understand it

[hoary forge]

Maybe we need updated info pictures.🤔

[analog inlet]

not specifically . but its used " in place of" a fuel related purchase.
In other words if you have Silv-2 you don't need fuel at all . The point is the amount of "fuel related purchases " are going to be a lot lower while it exists anything related should still specifiy that which was my point

@empty path @amber atlas if i remember correctly ( this does not apply specifically but it makes my point) people are going around saying the land sale generated 72 million . Which is not exactly accurate when talking about "Revenue for Revdis" there was only 7 million ( approx.) in ETH .

So if someone adds up all the "fuel related sales " in the same manor ( $1 000 000 ) in fuel related sales but half was from SILV-2 that means only 500 000 is eligible for any sort of pay out (5% or RevDis).

So announcing there was $1 000 000 in fuel related sales is not accurate in this context. Just as 72 million is not accurate when talking about Revdis form the land sale since it was closer to 7 million

Or have i misunderstood things this whole time ?

[clever comet]

silv2 and eth must be on layer2 ? imx?

[hasty topaz]

Hello to all IZ ppl

[radiant sky]

i think you got it wrong.
this was a very very basic example of how a share could be for a landplot if an x amount of fuel got sold.
For obvious reasons, many factors will have influence in that, how efficient is your plot, are you going for blueprints or fuel, megacities are not calculated in, converters are not really calculated in etc.
Silv2 isn't involved in fuel purchases, so i hasn't an influence in that calculation at all.
like, you buy a run on OW for example with silv2, but you don't buy fuel to buy a run for OW, so silv 2 purchases aren't included in this 100m example.

[analog inlet]

As pointed out above people to this d ay state the value of land sales was 72 million . What to stop someone form including later? also what is w rong with adding a simple word? This is a ETH based game .

[radiant sky]

like what word you were missing?

[analog inlet]

My only suggestion wans that you included "ETH" in the future. ETH Fuel related sales thorictical model would be more accurate , It was jsut a suggestion

[radiant sky]

i did it in $ because in explanation examples it is more easy to understand for most people what it actually is worth and also the difference, than if i put 0.00xx ETh every where.

[analog inlet]

true Just don't want new people who may not even know about SILV-2 existence to get confused

[radiant sky]

i'm sorry, i still don't get that part. This example calc didn't had anything to do with silv2 purchases.

[analog inlet]

I know it was more geared to to your title than calauation...... nver mind ths has tourned out a lot more ....complicated than i inended

[radiant sky]

But as far as i know, silv2 has nothing to do with fuel 😅

[analog inlet]

it was supposed to be jsut a simple thing but nothing i do is ever simple it seems lol

[analog inlet]

Not directly but it does REPLACE fuel it can even replace a ETH as it did in the land sale

[radiant sky]

Agreed, but has nothing to do with fuel sales 🙂

[analog inlet]

soooo saying 72 million in land sales is inaccurate as well.... in that context

[radiant sky]

Idk where you got that from. I don't think i ever said that 🤔

[analog inlet]

not saying you did jsut saying in general.

[radiant sky]

Aaah lol 😂
Yea probably not that accurate

[analog inlet]

Great we agree on somthing sort of i going to quit now while we are ahead ..... runs away

[radiant sky]

Actually besides the Discount of silv2 to ilv... Buyers paid 72m but dao didn't get 72m

[mortal smelt]

can't wait for the curtain to be pulled!

[gaunt whale]

Booyakasha

[gaunt whale]

Mane I’m so close

Mane I post the most post the most

Mane I got my balls broke balls broke

Mane I got hataz mane I got the swag ha y’heard me my father?
Look like grappler Baki swangin on those grandmas!

[radiant sky]

Be cautious or you might get a mute because of spam

[gaunt whale]

Yeah don’t worry about it I think that the server is really quiet right now. Thanks for lookin out!

[gaunt whale]

How are you doing Dr. Spoon????

I’m about ready to dingxor

Some guy told me to go do this who was onthe counsel.

[radiant sky]

I'm good

[radiant sky]

Pretty sure this was a misunderstanding of what he said 🙃

[gaunt whale]

Ah ✅

[neon inlet]

What's the use of Zero Point Transducer? Is it useful or should I buy more Materials Lab?

[timber glacier]

It will be used later on for minting blueprints.

[neon inlet]

So its not required yet for now?

[hasty topaz]

I think it will be required for minting the BP well that's what I heard around here a week ago

And since the BP minting is around the corner I think it's better to construct it and have it ready

But does any one know what level it be should or if anything else is required

[radiant sky]

Not known yet

[hasty topaz]

Thnx mate

[hasty topaz]

Well mate if am not wrong I think ZPT should work for minting at lvl 1 since all blueprints are lvl 1

[radiant sky]

It sounds like it was planned to have minting unlocked at lvl3, but likely will be dropped to lvl1 for s1 because it wasn't known people would need it.

But nothing fixed yet

[hasty topaz]

Then it's better to be prepared and have it at lvl 3 Incase it stays the same

[radiant sky]

I guess we will get the Info soon, since open Beta should Start in q4, IZ maybe earlier than open Beta, minting before End of s1 and people need that Info quite a bit ago.... So there's actually not much time for the Team to wait with the Definition and announcement.

[radiant sky]

I did it Like that, or are ramping up production and storage to do so in the lower Tiers.

[hasty topaz]

Well I have it at lvl2 now

I'll work on it to have it at lvl 3 soon

[radiant sky]

So do i 🙂

[hasty topaz]

Yes so right I have t1 plot and it's not easy to get it to lvl3

[radiant sky]

Definetly not... Needs some ress and storage up

[hasty topaz]

Yup u need at leats to have all at level 9

Especially you have 4 storage of each resources

[hasty topaz]

But if you have more you can do it at lvl 8 nexus

[radiant sky]

You have just 4 storages in t1?

[hasty topaz]

Yes it was good for me till ZPT came out lol

[hasty topaz]

All at lvl 8

[hasty topaz]

Actually all buldings at lvl8 am one of those guys that don't like to upgrade the nexus to a next level until all buldings are at the same lvl

4 storage of each element

[radiant sky]

But it's too less storage for mxing all Buildings, right?

Like if i remember right Scanners are 28m for max lvl

[hasty topaz]

Well for now I have 8M storage for each elements

[timber glacier]

If I recall only Scanner/Lab lv4 and 5 have a cost above 8m resources of any kind

[hasty topaz]

But u cant upgrade ZPT to lvl 3 unless you have a storage more then 8M

I think I'll build one more storage for each element which is cheaper then upgrading nexus engineering and then storage

[hasty topaz]

By the way vana you have such pretty good knowledge I learned a few things from you

Just made the the upgrade to lvl 3 for ZPT it takes 1d and 12hrs

[teal mural]

We voting today rite? For the way we sell fuel

[hasty topaz]

Guys why the landowner icon doesn't show in my profile

?!!??

[radiant sky]

You might to #🎫〕verify-asset ?

[hasty topaz]

Ok thnx mate

[radiant sky]

It's an ongoing vote in #1126838877429182506 ... But in the end it's the council who votes. We just give sentiment and ideas.

[hasty topaz]

How do u enter to be a council member

[hasty topaz]

I can't connect

[sour blade]

Hello guys

[radiant sky]

There are elections every 6 months

[radiant sky]

I actually never did it myself.... What's the problem?

[hasty topaz]

I think am solving

[hasty topaz]

How do they select what should one do

[radiant sky]

It's pretty mich Like real life elections Like in USA or other democratic countries

[hasty topaz]

Cool so u need to be a candidate

[radiant sky]

You can Run for it and token holders can vote for who they think habe the Same opinion

[hasty topaz]

I see

Nice

[radiant sky]

Usually there are live Interviews where people can ask questions to the candidates

Set up from illuvium

[hasty topaz]

Oh I c

I only have I fo about iz lol

[radiant sky]

The more time you spend in here the more the knowledge grows 🙂

[hasty topaz]

Yes indeed

Been here 3 month and I already learned a lot from you guys

[hasty topaz]

And thanks for the info mate and you are welcomed in our guild if u want it will be great having you as a member of OutCasters guild

[radiant sky]

Sure, maybe i'll take a look 🙂

[hasty topaz]

You are more then welcomed

[devout panther]

After today's Tawn Hall, has a decision been made for fuel?

[radiant sky]

no, that will take a while... even tho i hope not too long.

[devout panther]

me too, Of the various proposals in your opinion, which is the best? in terms of time and costs?

[radiant sky]

i guess there are some good things in every proposal, depending on what kind of audience you wana attract.
in my personal opinion, Aaron's orderbook appeals the most to me. I also feel like if it is done simple to handle, a lot of people discover the casual trader in themself aswell.
I wish it would have not any rails at all, but that is probably not gona pass through council. But if they market it correctly, the can set the rails pretty high, where the price of fuel most likely anyways will just get in very rare and weird occasions.

i also feel people have like a crazy volatility in their minds, like the fuel price will jump tens or hundreds of percents within a week,
which i just can't see the way IZ storage and production is set up right now.
Like, every additional storage you build to eventually get some +% in profit you will lose productivity for sure. It's a though decision to build an additional fuel storage. If i wana time high prices, and price just keeps dumping i have to build additional fuel storage (3x3x3 squares) which gets me for example on a t4 from 2.5d storage to 5d storage.
So i basically don't have much time until storage is full and i start loosing fuel every day, or have to sell it for cheap or build even more storage, which just get ridiculous at some point because they need so much space. (and space ist the most valuable ressource you have in IZ )

so i would say most landowners will cost average, which keeps prices pretty stable from a seller side. If we have massiv volatility in dayli played hours, thats another thing but i guess there are mechanics to minimize that problem.

have to listen to town hall the parts i missed, maybe this got even discussed.

[radiant sky]

What system would you like to have?

[devout panther]

I did not understand perfectly the differences that there are in the various systems, that of vetemor certainly not, not because it is correct or wrong but simply is web 2.0, the proposal of Aron if I understand correctly today allows you to accumulate and sell fuel through an order book and I really like it, also in this way many more fees should be generated and therefore revenue for the DAO

[radiant sky]

as far as i understood you can set orders. Like, if i wana sell fuel i can set the amount and the price. So can the buyer. But the fuel you sell is still filling up your storage until it gets sold, which is good, otherwhise the marketplace would be abused as storage.

i guess we will hear fleshed out version how everything exactly works, so they can get ideas from investors and thumbs up and down from the community.

[devout panther]

Being able to use an order book for your fuel sales seems to me a great idea, do you think it lengthens the time for the release of the game ?

[radiant sky]

i don't think so, but i'm no dev. and i don't know how many team members are working on that.

But i feel it is actually a pretty simple way to handle it.

but i can be way off... sometimes something seems to be simple but needs a fucking shitton of dev time 😄

[fair temple]

I think Aaron said that it was just a slight alteration of the earlier version.

We know the previous version was taken into account when the roadmap was created, so i dont think this will cause delays. It is just a different way of doing it, not necessarily more difficult.

[devout panther]

thank you very much for the answers, last question, is there a difference between having a Crypton or Solon deposit in your own land? I mean the solon and the Crypton will have different prices in the market ?

[radiant sky]

well, the chances are asymptotic to 0 they have exactly the same price 🙂
I guess the team will do it's best to balance out the demand of the different fuels.
I don't know if anyone did statistics about how many crypton/hyperion/solon sites got minted in the landsale, but i guess it doesn't vary very much because there were 20k plots minted.
Converters play then the biggest role in this questions.... like what are people building there plots for.
What i read in this chat, most people feel crypton will be more expensive than hyperion, which will be more expensive than solon... So it probably ends up with a crypton overproduction in the beginning of the launch until it slowly gets balanced out by itself, because some people switch their crypton production into solon/hyperion.

but thats just me, guessing 😄

?fuel

[lethal wyvern]

What are each type of fuel used for?

In the Illuvium Universe, there are three different types of fuel Hyperion, Solon, and Crypton. These fuels are used in the Illuvium ecosystem for various purposes, such as curing shards, crafting weapons and upgrades, and traveling to different regions. Fuel production is driven by Illuvium Zero

In Illuvium: Overworld

• Hyperion is used to cure shards and capture Illuvials,
• Solon is used to craft weapons, armor, and other upgrades,
• Crypton is used to travel to different regions.

In Illuvium: Zero
Hyperion, Solon, and Crypton are commonly used in high-level buildings. These fuel types may be required in order to build or upgrade certain structures

[nova epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/chatting-bean-twitch-gif-22634143

[inner mango]

Does level do anything?

[teal mural]

Will there be an update soon?

I’m storage is stuck at 902.5k so I can’t upgrade things anymore 🤦🏾‍♂️

[dry mango]

nop atm

[jaunty rain]

get more storage than...

[radiant sky]

you can build multiple storage building of the same kind.

[teal mural]

I been making more storage and I’m still stuck at 902.5k I been upgrading and making new ones

I have a lot of land and this is the only one that messed up, it’s a glitch and I put in an bug report a while ago and I uninstall and reinstall the game

[blazing ferry]

strange bug

[teal mural]

Yeah super annoying

[atomic nexus]

Have the exact date of blueprints withdraw?

[radiant sky]

Not yet, ser

[lapis ingot]

Does upgrading scanner and mat lab change something?

[radiant sky]

Not yet, with Info provided. But that can Change anytime.

[iron veldt]

Sir Spoon? Do we have already a date when the bps on the lands should be minted?

[radiant sky]

Not yet, ser

[little moon]

am sure its already been mentioned but does anyone know if Zero will have something similar to illuvitars points/leaderboard instead with Zero its based on production output?

[slim isle]

ZPT lvl 3 ready 🔥

[radiant sky]

Nothing heared yet about this kind of stuff

[little moon]

would make it more competitive like illuvitars

[lyric lodge]

Quick question so even lands that are not farmed will get a portion of the 5 percent of ilv dropped ?

[mortal smelt]

no

[lyric lodge]

Ok what do you mean ....how does it work

[mortal smelt]

we would sell Fuel into the 5%

[lyric lodge]

Sorry what does that mean

[radiant sky]

How big of a Cut you get from those 5% is depending on how much fuel you sell. If you sell no fuel you get nothing.

[lyric lodge]

Ah so if you farm an l3 for just fuel you get a cut if you use your l1 for just BP you get nothing

[mortal smelt]

you can do both

[lyric lodge]

So this ilv tokens that will be dropped right ?

[mortal smelt]

but you can optimize what you want the most for yourself

[lyric lodge]

Yes

I mean the rewards of 5 percent are in ilv ?

[mortal smelt]

ETH

[iron veldt]

so we sell fuel for eth + get this 5%? Or we sell our fuel to get a part of this 5%?

[mortal smelt]

I think i would get better returns just playing the whole cycle of the game and selling any excess illuvials and BPs

[hasty topaz]

Hello all I hope u all have a nice day

[radiant sky]

As far as i know dao buys ilv with ETH and you get ilv. But that could have been changed.

[mortal smelt]

I had thought it was sold for ETH

[radiant sky]

Yes

[empty path]

You sell fuel for ETH

[radiant sky]

And then they buy ilv with it

[iron veldt]

Spoon? Will we be able to sell our fuel and get a share of this 5%?

[empty path]

The fuel you sell is your 5%

[mortal smelt]

thats for the revdis i believe

[lyric lodge]

Cool

[radiant sky]

I thought both.
But again, i could be wrong

[iron veldt]

Isn’t that unfair somehow that we only get 5%?

[iron veldt]

me too, that’s why i was asking

[mortal smelt]

depending on what scale you mean unfair

[empty path]

If you think it's unfair, don't buy land?

[radiant sky]

I guess we will See anyways a fleshed out Version of fuelpool soon, where you can See all the Details.

[hasty topaz]

You all talking about the 5% cut and Dr spoon said if u sell fuel one big question can we sell fuel now in this phase

[empty path]

Now? No

[radiant sky]

Not for now, no

[mortal smelt]

If they Illuvium would be targeting 100K people then yes it would be unfair but that just isn't the case here

[hasty topaz]

Then guys sorry to say why the hurry there is still a lot of time till the next phase comes when we can sell fuel and get our shares in that time all will be more clear

[empty path]

I mean people that bought during balancer didn't even know there would be land, they are getting 5% less than what they were told, is that fair? 😉

[radiant sky]

But i get people asking things, to See if it is worth to buy Land now or not.

[empty path]

Yeah why figure it out now when you can wait for price to go 3x and then buy

[mortal smelt]

I think if everyone took a days course in programming there would be a better understanding imo

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-world-gif-18564330

[mortal smelt]

101 the first "learning" block lul

[hasty topaz]

Well I will tell u guys something I have been monitoring illuvium since last year and the prices are really low now comparing to last year so my advice it's worth buying now

[empty path]

Sounds like Financial Advice

[mortal smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/no-money-money-life-wallet-broke-gif-7513240

[hasty topaz]

Not financial advice it's friendly advice and what I think personally

[mortal smelt]

Already sold everything that could be sold to stake and provide liquidity

trickle in and restake repeat rinse

[iron veldt]

Can we at least use the fuel for our own runs to the overworld?

[mortal smelt]

yes

[radiant sky]

No

😂

[iron veldt]

lol, now I don’t know anything anymore lol

[empty path]

No, you sell in the pool and buy it back

[mortal smelt]

well i think they are going to enable it

[hasty topaz]

Good strategy but if it was me I would split it in half the other I'll buy NFT which I see them to go up in prices like plots

[mortal smelt]

cause it would make sense to

[empty path]

Nope

[iron veldt]

so i sell my fuel into the pool to get 5% and have to pay 95% more to buy fuel again?

[radiant sky]

Aaron mentioned something, but sounded like it's far in the future

[empty path]

No. If you sell 1 fuel, the DAO sells 19.

[iron veldt]

got it, thx

[mortal smelt]

that is what im probably basing my idea off of

[empty path]

You should listen to the town hall that tarren didn't upload

[mortal smelt]

it would make sense if there was a small fee to sell for ETH but no fee if used in OW

then again we are on IMX so no fees

[teal mural]

@radiant sky was you the one that put up a screen shot of your plot efficiency maxed out?

[radiant sky]

idk what you mean specifically but yea i posted multiple screenshots.

[teal mural]

Just wounding once I get everything I need could I pay you to just set my land up in the most efficient way that your able to? Don’t need you to play it just to set it up so I can maxout! With your knowledge Im guessing that would take you an hour to do

[radiant sky]

i actually was thinking about offering that service.
But i'm basically cutting my own profits if i make other landplots as efficient as i can do them. 🤔

[teal mural]

Long as you don’t do to many, you will be good and I will be your first! I will pay you upfront before each plot. I want to start of with my T3

[radiant sky]

Mmmh i will sleep over it and come back to you if thats fine.
Just btw. most likely i'm gona have to do it twice, cause after a first optimisation you might need to build up buildings, because you built like to less converters and too many powerstations for example.
But i will think about it.

[teal mural]

That’s cool just let me know! And if you do decide to do it, just let me know how much it’s going to be for the first and the second time you have to optimize it. @radiant sky

[radiant sky]

I will.
also have to think about how to do it without trust needed...

[true sequoia]

What I've seen of this Dr. Spoon I like btw

[teal mural]

I don’t mind just sending the money first to you because you been around just as long as I have on here so i welling to take a chance and do the first step And I’m only sending the login information so I feel safe.

[radiant sky]

that's kind of you, but if i'm gona able to do it for others, i need some system i guess.

[timber glacier]

In theory you could just do the layout in Illuvitect and not have to share logins and such

[radiant sky]

a shame you can't load plots in there, so they sites get automatically spawned at the right place.
but yea, could def. be an option.

[timber glacier]

I know some other people are working on a tool similar to Illuvitect, and that's one of the functions they should be adding

[radiant sky]

actually the easiest solution.
also just have to do it once

[lyric hamlet]

Looking like 2025 when game is fully functioning in line to what the vision was

[thorny crater]

Whoop whoop got all my blue prints for my 3 lands 🙂

[tardy falcon]

So... do we need a ZPT upgraded to level 3 in order to mint bps during window?

[radiant sky]

not known yet

[teal mural]

Yup rite on time for the bull market at its peak!

[iron veldt]

Where do u have that info from?

i thought level 1?

[tardy falcon]

Idk... I thought I saw or heard something about ZPT and leveling up for blueprints. Could just be level one... would be nice and make sense. Maybe stage 1 illuvial bp need only level one ZPT? Stage 2/level 2, etc.

[amber atlas]

its level 1 no upgrade required... unless someone decides to raise an ICCP to make it harder, which I highly doubt

[high sleet]

@amber atlas for fuel production will it always be a situation of rounding numbers? Eg rn if u were to earn 1.4 solon based on efficiency etc u instead earn 1?

Will that change in the future?

Extending on that if that were to change what happens below 1? Is it still minimum 1?

[amber atlas]

the intent for Beta is to have a percentage chance for anything under 10

so if you are due 0.7 Fuel 70% of the time you get 1, 30% of the time you get 0

[high sleet]

Ohhhhh okay

[amber atlas]

if it was 4.5, then 50% of the time you get 4, 50% of the time you get 5

[high sleet]

So still always whole numbers but a slightly different way of dealing with it

[amber atlas]

yes, I didn't want to get in to partial fuel

[high sleet]

I agree there. This is a clever solution

Tryna make a video analysing fuel production and tryna think about how I frame it

[amber atlas]

👍

[high sleet]

Not sure if it's worth portraying the beta version with the rounding

Even tho I spent over an hour writing the formulas already

How confirmed is this odds based approach?

[high sleet]

Wait what did u mean by under 10?

[amber atlas]

as it stands the percentage rules stop applying at a certain vlaue (currently set at 5 or 10, can't quite remember)... there's no reason it couldn't be for all values, probably makes more sense to be honest

(so currently if you would get 50.5 fuel you would just get 51 or 50.3 would give 50)

anyway thinking about it it seems silly not to apply it everywhere, so I'll update that design doc on Monday

[high sleet]

I must admit. In its current form there's a lack of incentivising efficiency

Guaranteeing less rng at higher values seems good

But with the new system Ur converters might passively produce nothing at 50% efficiency so it should help resolve that

[amber atlas]

anyways its a no working weekend for me... the only Illuvium thing I'm talking about is the d1sks I'm opening, and crazy ideas for future games 😉

[high sleet]

Hahah yeah im looking forward to it

Tryna decide if I go hard since no taipans

[amber atlas]

yes that was the intent

[high sleet]

I'd almost like min efficiency to be 25%

Going down the strategy of crushing Ur own efficiency seems kinda silly to me

Not sure how punishing it should be

[amber atlas]

the good thing is these are just parameters, they are the kinda thing that can be changed with minimal effort (other than balance testing), I imagine there will be lots of ICCP of that nature once things start moving in full swing

[high sleet]

What illuvitar u most excited to pull?

[amber atlas]

I was talking about Wave 1 (see Beyond channel) ... for Wave 2 the obvious .. Ophisto ... I'm not a huge Rhamphyre fan, but I love the squids ... so having the best thing be in that line is exciting

(I mean Beyond made me like Rhamphyre a lot more, but it will be x10 with Ophisto)

[high sleet]

Yeah I would kill for like a holo monarch or umbre. I love the squids mechanically/gameplay speaking but I prefer squizz over the other 2.

Getting synalph would be sick tho. I actually really like the pistol shrimps. I expect myself to be an invoker/psion player for the most part

[chilly smelt]

Hey sorry I have a question, once I have the 5 BioData available, do I need to keep using the scanners? Or now I can just delete the scanners and make many material laps instead?.
Do I still need the scanners for something after I already have the 5 BioData?

[opal thistle]

You don't need the scanners after you get all the biodata, but remember that you need at least 1 scanner to build data banks that greatly increase the Labs efficiency

[chilly smelt]

Thanks a lot

[snow summit]

You have fixed the gcaptcha login issue after months of begging and waiting - I am in deep shock! and I can login directly with imx, wonderful, how will I ever repay you for this kindness, oh I already did with thousands of dollars spend on virtual land (don't take it seriously).

[tough swan]

Hello! Can anyone point me to some documents/videos where I can learn all about Illuvium Zero in details?

[radiant sky]

there should be a tutorial on the official youtube of illuvium.

[hasty topaz]

Hello guys

Can any one tell if this is normal I have withdraw some eth from ilv account and it have been more then 12h since that time and I haven't received any thing in my wallet till now

[silver willow]

Can someone point me in the direction of one of these excel sheets? I'm having trouble finding one. Before I dive into trying to do one, I'd like to see one.

[silver willow]

Hi, have you found one of these models?

[icy walrus]

Nop my friend

[silver willow]

I found a simple one written by bitcoin_bull on #💰〕token channel and I linked to it there.

[hasty topaz]

Thnx mate

[drowsy flower]

I farmed all 15Blueprints is there any others to do?

[radiant sky]

build Zero Point Transducer

try out stuff, so you know all the mechanics

report buggs

give feedback

[drowsy flower]

Ok thanks

[radiant sky]

if you had 1 wish for free, what would you change?

[drowsy flower]

Can mint 15bp for each plot land?

[radiant sky]

yes ser.
every plot can mint all the 15 BP's as long as they got found on those plots

[drowsy flower]

My wish was: Bring it to a Stage to a OnlineGame where all People are connected.

[radiant sky]

yep, we all waiting for that 🙂

[teal mural]

That the community would care more about adding a first shooter game then a dating app 🤣

[radiant sky]

there are too many good shooters, but too less good dating apps.
I can see why community is on fire if it comes to hearts ablaze

[drowsy flower]

A game with no other People in the Game to Raid or Trade has no Future.

In Zero and Overworld

[teal mural]

It’s a lot of dating app out there, the skins that’s being made can give each character a different way to fight. Don’t get me wrong a dating app for gamers can make money but that should be made during the next bear market

[radiant sky]

You didn't listen to the latest town hall?

[radiant sky]

yea, i guess it's more kind of a running gag than something what they really want.

but i feel there are better genres to do a game than shooter

cause shooters are hard to get new people... with big games like cod, fortnite, pubg etc.

[teal mural]

PvP for Zero should next!

[radiant sky]

there are genres lacking of a good game

[radiant sky]

no doubt that will come 🙂

[honest ingot]

Make sure that when the notification exits, it is not necessary to click on the cross. so that it disappears when you click on the screen

[radiant sky]

If you mean the lvl up pop up window, yea.
was probably the one mentioned the most.
They are working on improvement. Like set lvl where it actually make sense with a pop up window and not just every lvl.
So i guess in open beta you will se that a lot less than now.

[blazing ferry]

Other screens would be nice to exit just clicking off the pop-up too instead of needing to hit the x (just an info screen for a building for example)

[honest ingot]

And remove the centering of the screen when selecting the building. If I need I will scroll the screen.

Another question. If you get all the blueprints from the ground. And then sell the land. Will the new owner have the ability to mine blueprints?

[timber glacier]

Yes

[honest ingot]

And how many drawings on 1 earth. where to see the data?

[timber glacier]

All lands will have the ability to drop any blueprint, just with different rates depending on the region.

Something like this. (Numbers might change before open beta though)

For instance Halcyon Sea will be more likely to get you Water Illuvials and their prints than say Crimson Waste.

[honest ingot]

Is the number of drawings limited?

[timber glacier]

No. But the more that are found of the same type the harder it will be to find another of that same type.

[honest ingot]

Understood. Thank you

[timber glacier]

You're welcome

[honest ingot]

Will there be a full reset after the test?

[timber glacier]

Yes, everything will reset just before Open Beta

Except the blueprints we will be able to mint just before the reset.

[honest ingot]

Does it make sense to upgrade F2P land?

[timber glacier]

Not really. You won't be able to transfer anything from it (fuel or blueprints) as it won't be connected to the eaarning system.
It's intended more for players to try out the game once it opens for everyone to play. So they can see what it's like before investing in lands.

That said, it can be useful for trying out strategies and things like that.

[teal mural]

@radiant sky what’s the max you been able to pull in fuel in 30days from your t3

[radiant sky]

i actually didn't play my t3's too much, so i guess not so much 😄

on my mixed t4 i produce arround 2230/17h if buildings were maxed out.
full fuel it's probably gona be 2600/17h... if im lucky 2670/17h

what do you get on the t3?

[pseudo pulsar]

On a t1 whats max rate some one has gotten too...?

[gentle grove]

What does each fuel do again

[gentle grove]

Damn didn't know u had a t4 big baller you

[radiant sky]

?fuel

[lethal wyvern]

What are each type of fuel used for?

In the Illuvium Universe, there are three different types of fuel Hyperion, Solon, and Crypton. These fuels are used in the Illuvium ecosystem for various purposes, such as curing shards, crafting weapons and upgrades, and traveling to different regions. Fuel production is driven by Illuvium Zero

In Illuvium: Overworld

• Hyperion is used to cure shards and capture Illuvials,
• Solon is used to craft weapons, armor, and other upgrades,
• Crypton is used to travel to different regions.

In Illuvium: Zero
Hyperion, Solon, and Crypton are commonly used in high-level buildings. These fuel types may be required in order to build or upgrade certain structures

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-sad-disappointed-am-i-mandalorian-gif-15937614

you didn't watch my play with pros episode

[gentle grove]

Of course I didn't

[gentle grove]

I am an old ass man u know my bedtime is early

[radiant sky]

Depending where you located could have been lunchtime 😂

[gilded storm]

Is there any tutorial about how to mint the blueprints? Sorry if the question seems stupid.

[blazing ferry]

No info on this yet, not yet available either

[blazing ferry]

You will need a zero point transducer though

[gilded storm]

lvl 1 or more?

[blazing ferry]

most likely just lvl 1

[gilded storm]

thanks for the answer.

[open zenith]

I missed the discussion on 'Strategy Sub-Council Town Hall'. What was discussed? Where can I find the recording.

[iron laurel]

Unfortunately there was an issue with the recording so it isn't available.

Each of the proposals were put forward. The team took questions from the community. It is unfortunate you missed it and can't listen to it but if you read the proposals you haven't missed anything that will enable you to make a decision on how you would like things to go. 🙂

[open zenith]

Which proposal?😅

[iron laurel]

The ones in Governance Ideas

[open zenith]

Thanks

[iron laurel]

There was more depth of course that came out during the Town Hall but the basic ideas are there. 🙂

[feral raft]

Is there going to be MAP pricing for blueprints/skins? I really hope it’s not like how land is selling… you buy a skin in Fortnite and there’s no bargaining for lower prices. I think it’d be good to have a similar if not exactly the same marketplace as games like Fortnite/apex. Every skin has a set cost depending on rarity/coolness and if someone were to buy it, it pays whoever is listing at random. This lessens the hassle as the buyer would have the interface to see what’s available at standard costs and the seller simply choosing list or unlist from the pool of available skins. It’d be cool to be able to find a blueprint and know exactly how much you’d be able to get from it, knowing you have a fair chance of actually selling it without having to bargain all the time. Say a certain skin has too many owners/not enough buyers and the majority of owners have it listed for X amount of days (longer than expected): send owners a notification to sign up for an upcoming monthly/weekly promotional discount on that skin, if X amount of owners sign up, the promotion runs that skin at a discount to entice buyers and to get those owners who signed up some profits. Bundle deals could also be worked out this way if multiple owners have the same variety of skins that aren’t selling. Promotions could be ran for “X amount of time or while supplies last” - supply being the amount of owners who signed up to sell at a discount

[fair temple]

Blueprints, ores, shards and Illuvials will all be components to produce a skin, and they will all have price discovery through an open market process.

Now, players who hold a blueprint will have to use ores, fuels and maybe even an Illuvial to create skins, and they will naturally look at the price of all the components as well as the skin to deduce whether they want to make a skin or not.

If the costs outweigh the potential benefits, then the crafter may raise the price, withhold on making skins, or even sell the blueprint to someone else.

The DAO should imo not step in with discounts. Discounts may happen naturally because landholders want to make money. Prices wont stay too high for too long because landholders will look to make an ROI. They will naturally reduce the price to as low as they can while making a profit. Just like any other business 👍

[feral raft]

Thanks for the clarification, I didn’t realize how involved producing a skin would be

[inner ice]

Yo guys, any news/updates regarding zero to iOS? 🙂

[empty path]

Q4

web version

[inner ice]

Cheerz

[hasty topaz]

Gd morning all

[fierce fern]

Is now the time to invest more in Land or in the coin?

[hearty cradle]

coin is a better investment imo

[sterile raven]

Is there any reason to keep multiple blueprint nfts rather than selling them?

[stray fulcrum]

How’s everyone going on their lands? I have three more T1s to get all the blueprints on

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/dickson-alla-hustle-time-gif-15165861

[stray fulcrum]

It sure is 😅 slowly getting there

[timber glacier]

Been done with my T1s for a while, but I just got a T2 a few days ago, so working on that now.

[stray fulcrum]

I can’t imagine how much quicker it is on the higher tier lands

[stray fulcrum]

Oh sweet! I’d love a T2

[timber glacier]

It's noticeably faster and I've only been playing it for 2 days

[radiant sky]

yea, the gap between t2 and t1 is pretty big

especially if you managed to get different fuels an not just 1 kind of fuel

[timber glacier]

Crypton x2 + Solon

Pretty good layout for mines too

[radiant sky]

totally... Swapping one crypton with the solon would have been nice.

but still.... pretty good catch

[stray fulcrum]

Pretty nice looking plot you got there

I was lucky with the T1 I got during the sale. I got each resource and a Hyperion fuel

[woven flame]

Hello, that might be a dumb question for some, but I recently purchased a tier 1 land and I also learnt that we will be able to keep our blueprints after the season 1 and the data reset.After downloading the game, i noticed that there were a free land available: Tier 2. SO I am wondering if I this land can allow me to eventually make bluprint that I will be able to keep as my tier 1 owned land

[slate merlin]

No, the free to play plot is just a way to practice, no blueprints, fuel or resources can be kept.

[woven flame]

I see, thank you

[deep saffron]

Who keeps the BP if I sell the land ?

[nova epoch]

was this the one for 0,45?

almost bought that ;D

[fierce fern]

I agree but why i Look everyday on those Land plots and wanna buy more?

If the sucess would Match axie how high could Land price go?

[radiant sky]

gona be different than axie.
axie is just pure speculation as far as i know at least it was a while ago when i looked back into the project.
ilv land price will be strongly dependent on ROI and future promises of ROI (playerbase growth)

[radiant sky]

not really saw details about how the whole minting process works.
But i guess if you haven't minted the blueprint it will go with the land. If you minted the blueprint you will keep it, since it's an nft then.

[timber glacier]

slightly above .45

[nova epoch]

wp

@timber glacier do you also think crypton is the most valuable or why the double fuel site there?

[timber glacier]

Oh this one I got almost entirely based on the layout.
I'm guessing crypton will be the most used fuel though. But I'm hoping it'll be more even among all 3.

[nova epoch]

yea and most used = most valuable

think so too

[timber glacier]

Probably old info so not sure it's what's currently in the works: #1023666069061247116 message
Apparently Biodata/Blueprints don't transfer along with the plot when sold. (At least it wasn't intended to back then)

[radiant sky]

Not necessarily if most used = most produced

[rocky hornet]

do we get to keep our fuel at the end of Season 1?

[empty path]

Nope

[tulip ocean]

any updates how much fuel someone gets on a t3 land?

[radiant sky]

na man, was too lazy to do a layout, so many things can change and totally mess up the whole work. 😅

[gentle grove]

What do u do for work ur always on here

[radiant sky]

I teach young people science... kind of like a tutor... and some crypto/shares stuff.

[gentle grove]

Ah

[teal mural]

I didn’t max my T3 yet I just got the BP’s and then started on my other lands but i definitely need to find out. Damn I should have grabbed me a T4 🤦🏾‍♂️

A T4 produces three times as much as a T3? Not sure where I saved the chart for the difference in tiers

[radiant sky]

it's late now, but i think its double the amount?

but the converters mess it up

gimme a sec

[gentle grove]

Yeah wish I has a free 10k to get a t4

[teal mural]

Yeah 300% definitely looking good. That around 800 in fuel every 17hr to your 2100/17hr in fuel

[radiant sky]

what do you mean with 800?

[radiant sky]

it's actually 2200 in 20h ... maybe i misstyped it.

but thats also conservative... some converters have more than 1 side path

[teal mural]

I was just saying the difference in output between 100% to 300%. I need to get more efficient with using the converters.

[radiant sky]

yea pretty important how you place them, so you don't waste too much space for powerstations.
but i feel there is anyway a change incoming... at least i hope so.
don't like it to have like more than half of the buildings being powerstations. Makes plot looking bad imo.

[little moon]

will progress restart when open beta comes out or will we keep our buildings?

[gentle grove]

Yes it will reset

[teal mural]

I agree with you on that! Less power stations, and more buildings for production

And plus we need more room for defense in attack buildings for PVP 💪🏾

[boreal oxide]

Does anyone know if I buy an android tablet will I be able to install illuvium zero? Or does it need to a android phone?

[gentle grove]

U can use a tablet

[boreal oxide]

Thanks

[inner dune]

Hi,
I recently changed my PC and trying to login on new PC but it keep saying "another device is signed in with this account" even though already signed out from previous PC.

Can someone help please?
Thanks

[inner dune]

I was able to login just now on new PC but after playing for some time it started showing loading screen.
After waiting for 10 minutes on loading screen I closed the app and re-launched it and now it got stuck on Fetching Profile screen from last 10 minutes.
This is happening repeatedly now not able to play for more than 10 mninutes

[inner dune]

Fresh downloaded it again, and still struggling with same issue it runs for few mins and the starts showing loading screen while in middle of the game.. done trying to launch it for the day.. will try fresh again tomorrow in case something changes

[grave island]

try syncing ur clock and set time automatically.

[inner dune]

it is already automatic, im cst time zone

[tardy falcon]

Not sure if this is a thing... if not, would be cool:
Holo and Dark Holo biodata... in order to make hyper rare holo skins.

[wispy prism]

That would be super cool.

[high sleet]

Does this affect passive generation? Does anyone know?

[radiant sky]

No it doesn't

[high sleet]

It affects conversion so that's interesting

[radiant sky]

Any activity but passiv generation

[high sleet]

interesting

thank you

[tepid compass]

Hey, guys. Wanted to know if I can rent land to play this game???

[gentle grove]

Not right now since it's alpha but I believe it was talked about letting people do that at one point

[lapis gulch]

Actually I saw some land rented on unbound. I haven't tried the site yet. Just learned about it yesterday.
I'm not affiliated with unbound in any way. Use at your own risk. Maybe on an empty wallet.
@tepid compass

There are even T4s in there. But I'm not sure how blueprint minting will work.

[tepid compass]

Yeah, That's what I check and come running down that I may get to play it... lol

I thought renting is enabled.... XD. but looks like I have to wait more....

[lapis gulch]

But if this site works as advertised it'll put NFTs into a temporary wallet, that you can use to link with an email/password and just play. The game should not be able to make a difference between your temp wallet and a regular one.

[spring mist]

---

Illuvium Zero Tech Update [08/07 - 08/11]

Hello everyone, let's go for a game and tech update!

This has been a very tech focused week, with many implementations and reimplementations:

• as said last week, we've started boosting our backend authority development with Igor. We're going back to the basics here, so each game feature is being reimplemented with security in mind
• on the client side, we've fully reimplemented scanning and research and are still working on the UI so that you can navigate through all the illuvial biodata, blueprints and facts. And there's going to be a lot, a whole illuvial roster's worth of stuff to scan and research
• on the art side, with the switch to a more recent Unity engine version, we've been repairing broken shaders and reworking our integration process. This is still very much in progress, but with last week's update, we've now got all the content we need to get down to it
• we just had a demo an hour ago showcasing all of the above, and our new sprint starts this week to focus on backend, goals and plants (which are getting a BIG overhaul)

No visual leak this week, the bulk of our work has been really technical and a bit boring to show... Leaks will come back next week 🙂

Thank you for your trust and patience!

[timber glacier]

Question regarding blueprints: Will there be a database on what prints are available before the game launches or are there plans for a Discovery aspect when it comes to the sciency stuff? (As in, we might know that there are X prints to find for a certain illuvial, but they will be hidden until someone actually finds it).

[spring mist]

it will be left to discover indeed 🙂 Like you said, you will have an idea of how many blueprints a biodata can bring you, but if not discovered by anybody, it will remain a mystery 🙂

[ionic wharf]

We need higher level storage units for Solan, Hyperion and Crypton.I will most likely run out of space where to build them before the season ends, level 6 is not enough.

[median prawn]

Gm

[jovial haven]

I found 5x a tier 1 illivutar.. from this moment I keep getting the message no Illuvitars found.
Keep trying or max is 5?

[jade ruin]

it’s just 5 at the moment

[jovial haven]

Thanks

Now I know I can wait till season ends haha

[radiant sky]

Finding the Biodata is just the first step.
You have to research your Biodata in your "Materials Labs" to get Blueprints.
You also have to build a "zero point transducer" to be able to mint the Blueprints at the end of Season 1

[radiant sky]

Thanks for the Update, you are a hero!
I'm just curious, if there is stuff tweaked for certain features like:
-Powerstations: Powergrid implementation and transport of energy / LVL ups for Powerstations or whatever
-Scanner efficiency (especially the lower limit of 50%)
-Pathing system in general
-Landmarks: Size and location / Bonus system (Like i have to actually build additional Powerstations to even profit from Landmark bonus (8-12Squares/converter))

[inner dune]

Hi,
Yesterday I changed my PC and trying to login on new PC but able to play

• Intially it kept saying "another device is signed in with this account" even though already signed out from previous PC.
• After 45 minutes struggle I was to login on new PC but after playing for 2-3 minutes it started showing loading screen.
• After waiting for 10 minutes on loading screen I closed the app and re-launched
• It takes longer then earlier on Fetching Profile screen and then shows my plots, But when opening a plot and I start playing, same issue repeats after 2-3 minutes of gameplay
• Also tried to fresh download game again, but still struggling with same issue it runs for few mins and the starts showing loading screen while in middle of the game..

This is happening repeatedly now not able to play for more than 2-3 minuets

Can someone help please?
Thanks

[radiant sky]

maybe best way is to contact #❓❓〕support

[inner dune]

Yes tried but somehow not having access to support channel

[radiant sky]

Everybody should have, the link in it should open illuviums Zendesk.
What exactly you don't have access?

[inner dune]

I was trying to post in support discord channel but it says you are unauthorized
And my Illuvium account credentials also not does not work on illuvium.zendesk.com
Requested illuvium.zendesk.com access and waiting for same
Thanks

[spring mist]

out of these 4, I can say for sure that pathing is getting a huge revamp 🙂 in particular deeper mechanics related to their placement, nothing as obscure as it currently is in the alpha. For the rest, efficiency is still being reworked on the game design side, same for powerstations and landmarks don't have an area of effect!

[spring mist]

hmm you should not need to login for zendesk, does it ask you for credentials when accessing the link in #❓❓〕support ?

[inner dune]

It gave me bug submit form and I submitted my issue, after that it took me to the main page where I saw sign-in option so thougt that was the way to track progress as currently not able to play at all.

[radiant sky]

yea i know land marks haven't an area of effect... but they are huge and in the middle of the plot 😄 nvm

and landmarks makes it possible to get to 175% efficiency right.
in order to put a for example crypton converter from 150% to 175% i need to build additional powerstations. If i dont do that, i can't profit from the landmark. So i actually have to pay with up to 8 squares to even profit from the landmark.
also other buildings nearby often get pushed way over their 150% limit, so the additional powerstations really are just for getting the landmark bonus.
idk to me feels kind of missing the point of landmarks being an additional boost for high tiers if a actually have to think about "should i even "waste" the space to get the bonus"
like often you try to put the same converters not next to each other for efficiency reasons, which results in a spread of them all over the plot, which results in additional powerstations all over the plot. And we already have to build way too many of them imo 😄

94 🙄
may plot is actually a powerstation grid and at some spots i have also a few other buildings 😂

[quick igloo]

ha ha ha sounds and looks familiar👍

[radiant sky]

And thats a mixed plot... Full fuel Layout would have even more

[hazy jewel]

Minting not yet available?

[radiant sky]

Yes

[hazy jewel]

Sorry wrong question: can I mint my blueprint?

[radiant sky]

Not yet

[hazy jewel]

Ok now it’s clear

Ty

[cerulean nest]

Hi guys, has anyone seen any discussion around a slippery slope of skins being made available outside of the ILZ, such as in the upcoming beyond sale? I may be mistaken but I believed skins would be almost exclusively derived from ILZ, however if skins can just be offered ad hoc to suit whatever promotions may be going on at any time then surely this will devalue the ILZ skin markets?

Perhaps there was an IIP about this that I missed?

[empty path]

Nah there are no IIPs for marketing, not sure what marketing council is doing

[cerulean nest]

Interesting, surely this goes 'beyond' (pardon the pun) simple marketing though, as it's appropriating a potential earning mechanic that was sold as being exclusive to ILZ 🤔

[lapis ingot]

Is there a plan on what we can do with our blueprints? Besides minting them? Will we be able to sell those skins?

[dry mango]

The blueprints will be tradeable, just like the skins created through them, but a date for when these sales will be possible has not been provided yet, probably shortly after the start of the public beta.

[radiant sky]

No, there was no iip about this.

[cerulean nest]

Thanks (edit - I initially read that there was an iip haha, doh).

[radiant sky]

Pointed it out more than once... Was always silence when i brought this up 😂

And since iips are now in Governance section i can't even write one 😔

[cerulean nest]

I've opened a feedback-ideas thread to hopefully get some engagement on the topic 🙂 https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1140671958216876062

[tacit jolt]

i know this has been asked like 1000 times but when’s the minting period set to be?

[empty path]

Probably Q4

[whole spear]

Still need to adjust that so land owners can

[radiant sky]

Wouldn't Change anything 😂

But other Land lords would appreciate that for sure

[whole spear]

You do have access to the ideas part though yes??

[radiant sky]

I can read, yes

[amber narwhal]

so the full release of the game will come within 4 months right? so excited

games*

[hoary forge]

Public beta will start in Q4 like the Roadmap is showing.

[gentle grove]

How firm is that

[hoary forge]

right now we are still on track. and they try to update the roadmap every month. right now it looks very good. you never can say 100% but it looks good. and i have faith in the team.

[gentle grove]

https://tenor.com/view/i-want-it-now-veruca-salt-willie-wonka-chocolate-factory-impatient-gif-17131695

[hoary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/want-it-all-now-queen-i-want-it-all-gif-14505263

[gentle grove]

Queen

[bitter phoenix]

Hi. I have been working on something more formal for a few days. I am just waiting for some feedback before going ahead. Thanks for posting on this topic as we will be able to see some sentiment, which if positive may help to sway a decision.

[fair temple]

I'm curious what your IIP will entail! I've also directed my attention to this the past few days 🙂

[bitter phoenix]

Dm?

[fair temple]

we are already DM friends i think 👀

[clever comet]

at L-Crypton Collider (level 5) produce "passive generation" 3 pcs regardless of efficiency?whether it is 50%?

[gentle sail]

what is the number of facts and blueprints possible? and how many biodata possible per plot of land?

[gentle grove]

5 bio 15 BP and think it's 15 facts

[long ivy]

Do we have to have 4 adjacent plots to formulate a mega city?

[nova epoch]

2x2 is the minimum, yea... 4x1 doesnt work, must be a square...

[rose maple]

I’m brand new to iPads, I’ve got the latest iOS installed, I can’t seem to find the setting that allows me to side load apps, ie, not from App Store. Can someone share the steps? Thanks.

I’ve tried the internet and the instructions are out of date.

[vivid cipher]

There is not an app built for iPhone/iPad of #🎮〕illuvium-zero anyways.

[rose maple]

Ahhhh, it’s full Mac, OK that makes sense.

Thanks.

[vivid cipher]

I’ve used an app called sideloadly though for other apps

[teal mural]

I agree, It would be better if the extra % from the landmarks are automatically add on so the lowest at 50% would be 55% and at 100%=110% and 150%=175% @radiant sky

Don’t remember the extra % though it was 10 so that would put 150%= 165% but the main point is the extra % should be automatically calculated in

[errant ermine]

halow

good morning sir

I have reached the maximum level and I have a lot of fuel up to 8000 solo.hyperion.crypton. for zero what are you waiting for?

[lethal valley]

ok guys what do i do here?
does clearing the plant before claiming the biodata have any effect?

[gentle grove]

Yes it will increase its efficiency

[lethal valley]

but does it matter if the plant is there right now?
i can just clear it and its like the plant was never there anyways?

[gentle grove]

If the plant is there when u harvest that scanner it will decrease the scanners efficiency

It's like a 5-10% decrease

[lethal valley]

right but if its there and i clear it its like its never been there?
so the efficiency is not affected by the plants and buildings around it if you just clear them on the way for harvesting?

[amber atlas]

In the Alpha efficiency only cares about what you end up with (i.e. efficiency at time of acknowledge), but in the beta efficiency will be an approximation of the average efficiency across the life of the activity.

[empty path]

But plants won't have effect on scanners right?

[lethal valley]

a allright. i understand now. thank you ^^

[amber atlas]

There's no final call here but yes that's the assumption based on it being kinda silly to have plants affect scanners in a negative way.

I guess you could argue that they interfere with the scanning.

[empty path]

Ah Illuvials like plants

It should even boost it 😄

[amber atlas]

Anyway the final balance for efficiency (as in exactly what effects what and but how much) will be decided by DmitriR and will probably under go tweaking for some time yet.

[empty path]

Yeah it would just suck if scanning effiency goes down because of it (like it is now)

You already lose a lot of space for the scanner

if you gotta put roads so no plants show up you lose even more

[amber atlas]

The general guidlines to Dmitriy are to encourage more space around scanners and to make it less rewarding to just build lots of scanners and to hell with efficiency.

The idea is that a few canners spreadout should be a lot better than heaps of scanners next to each other.

[empty path]

[amber atlas]

But again, I don't want to pre-empt the final balance here. Gameplay balance trumps making sense in our reality, we can always tweak some lore to make it fit 🙂

[lethal valley]

can you explain this:
how does efficiency work exactly here?

[empty path]

Building is closer so efficiency is lower

[amber atlas]

The general idea is that scanners are more efficient in isolation. You are trying to scan creatures to find out about them. Creatures don't tend to like built up areas.

Not to mention structures tend to interfere with 'scanning' stuff.

So the closer something is to the scanner the more dramatic its (negative) effect on efficiency.

The system allows for different values to be placed on different combinations (and they can be positive or negative). Although from memory scanner currently just has a rule of "ALL structures impact me negatively"

[lethal valley]

allright got it. thank you

[amber atlas]

As talked about above these rules will be tweaked for the beta, and its likely that two things will happen:

• Plants wont have a negative effect (maybe even a positive one)
• The effect of nearby buildings will be greatly increased (in the negative) to strongly encourage putting scanners in an empty area

[lethal valley]

allright yea i like that.
for now i just did this, cause it doesnt seem to impact a lot.
and i already found all the biodata, so im keeping only these 2 scanners for later on

[amber atlas]

Just to be clear all data will be wiped before Open Beta starts. Except NFTs once minted as they, of course, are on the blockchain and intended as a reward.

[lethal valley]

ok so we can mint the blueprints but all the other stuff we lose right?

[empty path]

Yup

[solid fox]

Guys , is there any max for biodata and blueprint and facts ? I didn't find any of these for past 2 weeks !! 🙁

[radiant sky]

5 biodata
15 facts
15 BP

[solid fox]

yes I'm max on all , so what now ? what should I do now ?

[radiant sky]

You will also need a Zero Point Transducer to be able to mint the bp's

[solid fox]

yes I got one - level 3 - but can't do anything with it 😅

[radiant sky]

Yea, not yet 🙂

[solid fox]

thanks for tips , so that's it ? I just wait for minting my BPs now ?

[radiant sky]

Pretty much...
You could give feedback in #1020759212172775464 what you Like, what you don't Like, what Feature you would Like to See in future.
Play arround with Layouts to Make sure your knowledge for mechanics sits and you get an efficient Start at Launch.

[clever comet]

i don't understand....passive generation 4, means give me 4 per day? reward 8, give me another 8 per day? in total 12 per day?

[radiant sky]

The reward 8 is for active conversion

[clever comet]

what do you mean by "active conversion"? this

[timber glacier]

Yes. Converting that you have to activate manually = Active Conversion

[clever comet]

if i have efficence 50%, the passive generation it, 4 or will be half (2)?

thnak you for the answers :d

[radiant sky]

The output will be half

[clever comet]

thanks :d

i try to optimize "my city"

[timber glacier]

Yes, passive generation is affected by efficiency, so at 50% you get half of what it says.

[radiant sky]

Looking Like selfmade in paint... you already checked out illuvitect?

[clever comet]

no

where?

[radiant sky]

Google it

[clever comet]

thanks

[clever comet]

that change evrything

[sick pelican]

Hey guys, I've been on zero for a while now but I can only seem to get the same 5 biodata across all my plots. Are there only those 5 in the game?

[radiant sky]

Yes in season 1 there is only 5 biodata.
In open Beta there will be many more

[sick pelican]

So I should scrap my scannners and use that space for other things?

[jovial haven]

How do you find facts and BPs

[radiant sky]

In mat labs

[rose maple]

Good that’s how I play, always going for max efficiency.

[radiant sky]

Should be Set up for this play Style... Otherwhise powerstations or Scanner area just lose it's function and will disappear as soon as there are guides for optimal builds out on youtube

[rose maple]

Good to hear, I was using power stations to keep all efficiencies in the 140+ region and only being able to fit 2 scanners to keep them max efficiency wondering if I was playing the game right.

Can you help a brother out and give me an on point YouTuber?

[radiant sky]

Actually haven't watched an IZ explainer yet, so idk 😆
Mine is in production but have a Lot of other Stuff on the Table so that could need some time.

[amber hamlet]

How we feeling about the Skins rewards from the Illuvitars..? I know this is an Illuvitar issue but I'm conflicted here since it kinda affects IZ owners... 🤔

[true sequoia]

those skins are not saleable

[vapid quartz]

Having trouble clicking on buildings. Ill click mine or build and things are fine, and then for some reason my next 10 clicks go unregistered and I have to click on a plant or a completed bubble to kind of reset it and then can start clicking on buildings again. Kind of odd, anyone else having this issue? I restarted the game, when that didn't fix it, I restarted my computer, next step would be uninstall/reinstall, but thought id check in before doing that.

No other mouse related clicking problems in any other application on the computer

[radiant sky]

You sure?

[radiant sky]

#1140671958216876062 message

[iron veldt]

I really also would like to hear something from the DAO about Ilv-zero and the blueprint-problem

[amber hamlet]

Appreciate it