🎮〕illuvium-zero

[radiant sky]

like, we don't know how much a skin will be worth, how much and which blueprints you get out of your land is anyway totally rng, we don't know what a run will cost in money and fuel...

so you can't calculate really anything

always good to do your research 👍

[true sequoia]

I don't see this as a get rich quick option at all...probably a year or more out for economics to take off, assuming macro and crypto environment improve, and even then, who knows. I'd only buy it to play and have fun and use the economics as an incentive, not to get rich. Remember there is more land for sale in the future.

[nova epoch]

How much do you get per day?

[hardy brook]

46 at 150% every 19 hours per site. Something like that, I've not played for a while now.

[radiant sky]

You did 1 side path for all Buildings with a 24h processing time i guess?

[blazing ferry]

@radiant sky is there a recording?

[lyric lodge]

Yes but do we need a level 3 ?

To mint ?

[fossil galleon]

Johnny said above thinks it will require Stage 1 - TBC: #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[lyric lodge]

Thanks

[radiant sky]

i think @blissful yoke streamed it on his twitch, so you should be able to rewatch it there.

[amber rune]

hello

[strange haven]

Hi, is it posible to find tier 2 illuvials? from when i upgraded to tier 2 it's 2 weeks i cant find anymore

[radiant sky]

You talking about IZ?

[strange haven]

of course

[radiant sky]

So there are just Tier1 illuvials in season 1.

[strange haven]

so i didnt have to upgrade

i cant find any illuvial now?

[radiant sky]

No you don't have to

[strange haven]

my thing is tier 2

[radiant sky]

There are atm 5 illuvial biodata available in season 1

[strange haven]

ok so i got them all

[strange haven]

yes i have all of them thanks

any point in upgrading the resarch lab to tier 2?

[radiant sky]

No. Materials lab on lvl 2 are able to research tier2 biodata of i remember right. But there is just T1 biodata available to research

[strange haven]

alright gotcha thanks

so waiting for the new phase of the alpa

alpha

[blazing ferry]

Nice! Found it, will need to watch later

[half gale]

Can you please link. I could not find it

[half gale]

nvmm found it

[icy thicket]

Pretty much my daily battery usage 😆 #priorities

[celest wagon]

Tiktok 🥲

[icy thicket]

Later at night when I am not working, sadly that number sky rockets 😆

[celest wagon]

I have difficulty playing on the phone not very fast I prefer on the computer

[lethal valley]

wheres vana? 😛

[radiant sky]

In #🎮〕illuvium-arena i guess 😂

[timber glacier]

I'm around

just don't have a lot to do in zero at the moment

[timber glacier]

Except these

One done-ish, 3 more to go

[mellow jungle]

Hi!!!!! one question, what is better? Buy one tier 1 land or buy a Tier 2 with another person and share it? I had hear that a tier 2 it was more profitable than a tier 1 😮

[pearl dagger]

I don't think there is anyone that can discern that for you...

[pallid patrol]

have we figured out what level zero point transducer we need yet to transfer the blueprints off?

[pearl dagger]

Johnny suggested that it will likely be lvl 1

[amber atlas]

Unless there is some major uproar forcing the council to veto (seems pretty unlikely) it will be level 1, this allows us to have the same mechanic as was always planned (and as will exist in the Beta), but is also easy to achieve for those who might have destroyed their production facilities in order to try out other things (or whatever the case may be).

[lethal valley]

buy a tier 2 by yourself 😝

[lethal valley]

how much time left to mint the blueprints?
if i buy a land now do i still have time to level up for the blueprints?

[amber atlas]

The absolute earliest time minting will start is October 1st... expectation is that will be after that. That gives you at least 2 months. I can't really comment on how long it would take to get all blueprints on different Tiers, but you can canvas community for their experience.

[pseudo pulsar]

@lethal valley depends t1 30 to 60 days around that

[coral remnant]

👀 is earning strated for illuv lands?

[wispy prism]

As far as I'm aware, it will begin when all 3 games are on-chain.

[lethal valley]

sure but is blueprint minting gonna be available in 60 days from now?

[timber glacier]

Yes, it took me between 3-5 weeks per T1 plot to get them all (17 days on my fastest one), but it all depends on how efficiently you can play. Still 2+ months should be enough even if you play a bit more casually.

[timber glacier]

Minting hasn't started yet. At best it'll start in 60 days from now according to #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[lethal valley]

so then i have time, right?

[odd bone]

what do you mean 3 more to go? do you have three zero point transducers?

[timber glacier]

I have 4 plots of land

[timber glacier]

Yup

[odd bone]

ah ok gotcha 😄

I am also bringing to lev3 and was wondering if I need to build more :F

[timber glacier]

No, one should do.
Also lv1 should probably do, but I'm upgrading them anyways just in case

[paper lance]

why don't we have mobile notification whenever an upgrade finishes, or resources are ready to be collected?

[tall crypt]

5-9 weeks normally.

But no ever run how now. Illuvium can add new dificulty.

[gusty fractal]

they should make an official announcement or it's going to scream

for example nobody in the french community was aware that you need level 1 of this building to mint the blue print. Some have even reset their Land to test new things

[radiant sky]

They will as soons as it is finalized how exactly.

[timber glacier]

I don't think all that many ppl were aware at all before the mention of it last week, or earlier this week.
I sure wasn't.

[radiant sky]

I guess no one except Team members 😂

Cause it was asked a Lot, always the answer it has no function in s1 and it never got denied by anybody

[blazing ferry]

Great overview, just finished watching.....every new player should start here!

[true sequoia]

wow, tier one land has collapsed in price!

[timber glacier]

think all tiers have

[eternal pine]

when season end?

[hoary forge]

most likely in Q4 before public beta starts

[shrewd flax]

Do you guys think the blueprint mints will be worth anything?

[empty path]

No

[subtle edge]

Hello, someone could tell about a blog or youtube video that show a tutorial what is doable in illivium-zero at the moment?

I think I am missing some points haha

for example, I got all facts and blueprints.. but my material labs are only lvl 01. it means that I should update the material lab to 3 to get tier 3 blueprints?

my zero point transducer is lvl 3.. I think I read it could go up to 4 but I cant see how to update it

when I finish the ZPT and all blueprints/facts.. what else can we do ? 🙂

[timber glacier]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1883104487
The latest "Play with the pros" had some good info on Zero, definetly worth watching.

As for your questions:
Upgrading the labs/scanners have no effect in the current version. They will be required for higher tier Biodata/Blueprints in open beta though.
The ZPT has a max level of 3 (at the moment at least).
When you've found all the blueprints and built the required buildings there's not much else to do than wait, and possibly max out your other buildings or test out what layouts are efficient for your plot.

[subtle edge]

not possible to get higher tier at the moment right ?
neither selling fuels?

watchign the movie rn 🙂

[timber glacier]

No, tier 1 blueprints are the only ones we can find. And no selling fuel yet.

[radiant sky]

Thx, appreciate it.

[high hinge]

Does the mobile version make you click to close a window every time you go up a level? Not sure why but it makes me want to throw my mouse every time im trying to clear my production in an efficient manner and i go to click the next production but i cant because i have to go to middle of screen to close the message that i went up a level. Which ends up being about 4 or 5 times during the 5 minutes i have to clear my screen in the morning before work.

[high hinge]

You sound surprised.

[plain sundial]

This is a bit annoying. Maybe a implementation to the "ESC" button would solve this.

[subtle edge]

Just saw the video, indeed very good and give all the basics..

One question that I could no see discussed is what are the good points of having 2 marketplaces or 2 quantum Fabricant ?

I see that as I have only 1 plot tier 1, I will suffer with fuel (in comparison to others 🙂 )

[true sequoia]

hadn't looked in a while...hell a lot cheaper and may have to pick some up 😉

someone is selling a tier 2 they bought earlier this year for 2.5k for $888...yikes!

[gentle grove]

Not surprised they have screwed people with land over pretty badly

[hidden swallow]

Since the market place accesses just one "market", I don't see the need to have 2 or more since you can do multiple transactions in just one.

Important buildings like Nexus, Engineering and quantum fabricants don't really need two or more as the they only allow you to do other things. I look at them as gatekeepers.

[hidden swallow]

This is true, and is the very nature of a T1 land. As for fuel, creating more converters and upgrading the fuel extractor you have is the best bet. But we will never catch up to higher tier land production.

[mellow jungle]

Hi! Some recvommended video to choose the best possible Illuvium land?

[empty path]

T5

[mellow jungle]

jajajaja nop, t1 I am poor xD

[timber glacier]

Yeah, there's not really a reason to build multiples of those buildings, at least not for now, maybe they'll get other functionality in the future though

[hidden swallow]

T2 based on an old video by Scoriox.

[mellow jungle]

.

[timber glacier]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message
Towards the end of this one they talk a bit about just that (watch from around 1:13:00)

[empty path]

Based on his videos I’m also a millionaire

[wispy prism]

To be fair they were a long time ago. I imagine he will do another one when more data comes in.
He also usually states hypothetical scenarios.

[true sequoia]

well, we'll see what they do with fuel, etc. or indeed this may have continuing struggles. Do they favor overworld, etc. over zero (ie make it cheap to travel, etc.). I was looking forward to having more fun with the land, but it has had limited appeal, alas. Be nice if they throw some bonus skins, etc. into this "season" as a small reward.

[true sequoia]

And are we only getting BP for skins even in open beta? That doesn't seem too exciting, excluding whatever they do with fuel.

[wintry frigate]

Does anyone know how to get their land to show as an NFT in metamask wallet?

[chilly copper]

hi i built many data banks, and got effiency 150% but my research success rate is still 5%? can anyone help?

[radiant sky]

the info window doesn't change

[chilly copper]

oh i see, how do i know the exact success rate then?

[radiant sky]

it's like with your extractors, you see the actuall influence just in the window pop up when you click on harvest. The research window pop up, clicking on research, sadly doesn't have that information in it.

[radiant sky]

you don't 😅

[chilly copper]

understood, so its a roll of dice then, thanks!

[radiant sky]

yea, like the 5% i guess is on 100% efficiency.
So if you have 150% efficiency it should be increased to 7.5% in my opinion.
It never got denied by any dev that efficiency increases the chance of a successful research, so i guess the efficiency behaves the same way it does on the ressource buildings.

[wispy prism]

I thought data banks weren't active this season.

[radiant sky]

they are, they give your mat labs a nice efficiency boost.

[wispy prism]

Oh crap, someone told me they weren't working. Oh well, I built six mat labs, lots of power stations and that seemed to get a fair amount per day.
Lol. I make them with my new ones.

[radiant sky]

powerstations also increase efficiency of mat labs

[wispy prism]

Wow so that would make it super quick.

[radiant sky]

like both, powerstations and data bank does the same thing for mat labs, you can build either or

[wispy prism]

Both?

[radiant sky]

na, you can't get over 150% efficiency on the matlabs

you can do it with powerstations

or you can do it with databanks

[wispy prism]

Okay

Thanks

[radiant sky]

databanks are more expensive, give more efficency and need as a result less space

[wispy prism]

Would it be less data banks? I assume we will need them in the future for other reasons, such as storage?

[radiant sky]

so if you have 2 less space arround your mat labs, you could build data banks to safe space

[wispy prism]

Lol you answered me. Without a question. Nice Work. ☺️

[radiant sky]

yea, will be storage for biodata, facts, blueprint data afaik

[wispy prism]

At the risk of sounding stupid, what is afaik?

[radiant sky]

as far as i know

[wispy prism]

No what I got it. As far as I know

[radiant sky]

😄

[wispy prism]

Hahah lol. My memory sucks

[radiant sky]

same

[wispy prism]

I have to start writing stuff down again and making a cheat sheet. 😁

[radiant sky]

yea, had to do the same... but am too lazy to always write down everything, so i basically wrote down the title and stopped then xD

[gentle grove]

Is there still no word on how much fuel will sell for

[radiant sky]

yes

[north flint]

is the current price for T1 land reasonable?

[gentle grove]

That would depend on if u think it will go down more

If they would release the price of fuel it would definitely go up in price land

[radiant sky]

Maybe...either up or down, right? 🙃
But i don't think it will have much of an impact.
I guess the following weeks after launch will have way more impact on the price.

[gentle grove]

But if people knew what the price of fuel will be there's enough data out there to know how much fuel we earn and what the roi on land will be it would cause it to go up or down because people will know how long it takes to make their money back

[radiant sky]

As Long as you don't know how many people will play it is still impossible to calculate an roi.
Besides, fuel price is more or less only relevant for t3/t4

[gentle grove]

Well I only a t3 t2 and t1

[radiant sky]

"only"...that pretty nice mate 🙂
But in my little messed up brain you should be Way more interested in what blueprints are worth. Sure, you will also sell fuel but the real power in t1/2 are bp's i think.

[gentle grove]

Well my t1 and t2 will be for BP but the start bps we are getting in alpha going to worth dog poop

[radiant sky]

Yea pretty much

[gentle grove]

I gave up getting it them on my t1

[lyric hamlet]

😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

More than halfway in 2023 and they still pumping this game like it's gonna come out next week.

[gentle grove]

This game I bet never comes out they are always like it's not perfect yet and just losing more and more people

[cyan bone]

Ok

[gentle grove]

I know it's going to come just think that sometimes it's frustrating

[cyan bone]

Yeah absolutely, understand the feeling

[gentle grove]

Plus wish there was more news like price of fuel and other things that I am sure is unknown

[cyan bone]

The Strategy Sub Council is working with Aaron to define the specifics of the Fuel Pool and how zero interacts with Overworld.

We will likely have several proposals available for voting in the not too distant future.

[misty rock]

I just complete the 15 Blueprint for all 4 of my plot. Finally. Better late than never

I think every plot holder would have all these blueprint for the first season. So it would worth much.

I just hope future blueprint do more than cosmetic effect. Slight perk that is not game changing would be good

[noble crag]

I was away from the game for a while, does the progression is persisted right now or it will be reset?

[blazing ferry]

It will reset again before public beta launch

[blazing ferry]

Blueprints are the only thing that will be able to be minted at the end of this season and kept

[empty path]

Fun?

[vivid cipher]

More responses here #💬〕general message

[solar brook]

no resets after public beta?

[candid cairn]

Will we be able to mint blueprints with current IZ, or there is one more version to be released?

[vivid cipher]

I believe there will be another build/version pushed out closer to the minting window. But there will not be a wipe of the game data before the minting window.

[candid cairn]

So, we will be able to mint the blueprints which we own now?

[timber glacier]

yes

[candid cairn]

Great, tnx

[atomic nexus]

When the mint of blueprints will be opened?

[timber glacier]

We don't know, just an estimate
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[atomic cove]

sad to see land prices dropping even lower 😦

[slender pumice]

im thinking they are waiting for bitcoin halfing and with that a bullrun. Thats the reason why release for 2024 is aimed i think. but i also think they are losing themselfe in details we dont need new pictures for shareds and other things for now.... the functions are important for me and the ability to play on mobile and low hardware, so that we can asume a lot of players.

[radiant sky]

Yea, mobile delayed is a bummer.

[violet escarp]

do I need to update the game now?
and what will happen to all the drawings that I have collected up to this point?

[radiant sky]

Last Update was End of May, idk when was the last time you played. But if you haven't played in the meantime, you need to Update.
All plots were wiped with that Update.

[violet escarp]

I already did the update after
What do I need to do now? just wait?
I saw a tweet saying the market was open, but my game still says "coming soon"

[slender pumice]

the marked should be open to transfere the fuel and the elements. i did not build it because no use for me now

[lyric lodge]

I thought was always 2024 ?

[lyric lodge]

Really who said that ? Have you looked at the roadmap ? Says nothing about tomorrow

[lyric lodge]

At 300 dollars ?

[lyric lodge]

Not really cause we are all aiming for t5 BP...everyone starting without level 1 bp will need to start from bottom and it will be harder to get after zero

[blazing ferry]

Right, just one more reset at the end of the current season before public beta

[slender pumice]

are skins still supposed to buy only from landowner?

[lapis gulch]

No. Some skins might show up as IB collection milestones.

[clever comet]

on website it's written T0 is tha same with T2 but for me, when i play, i have the land like T3....maybe is an written error?

[vivid cipher]

Things have changed. It used to be like a t2

[fossil narwhal]

Hi guys, is the game in Alpha/Beta or is it released definitely?

[strange haven]

There will be reset? So there is no need I play anymore? Looks like I have all the blueprints

[vivid cipher]

Correct.

[vivid cipher]

It is in alpha season 1

⤵️

[lethal wyvern]

How long is the alpha testing for Illuvium: Zero expected to last?

Illuvium: Zero's alpha testing is divided into two seasons, and Season 0 has already come to a close. At the end of this season, all data, including blueprints, were wiped and reset. The main purpose of Season 0 was for the development team to address bugs and balance issues, while also ensuring a clean slate before transitioning to Season 1.

Currently, we're in the midst of Season 1, which began on May 25th, 2023. Season 1 will continue until we reach the open beta stage. At the end of this season, there will be another data reset. However, here's some exciting news for you: during the last few months of Season 1, players will have the opportunity to mint the blueprints they've researched as NFTs (Non-Fungible Tokens). These minted NFTs will persist beyond the alpha reset, and you'll be able to use them to craft skins in the Illuvium: Overworld once we reach the Open Beta phase.

As we approach the open beta stage, we'll provide more detailed information about the minting window.

[fossil narwhal]

Thanks

[strange haven]

How do I know if I have them all for sure? Are they 3 per illuvial correct?

[vivid cipher]

Yes. 3*5=15

[strange haven]

Ok so i only miss one for Archie, thanks

[upper brook]

Why does the roadmap mention IZ PB1 in Q4? Confused

[radiant sky]

I guess that's when minting gets patched, so we are able to mint the blueprints, but not sure

[clever comet]

now is "Sezon 1" "close alfa", i am not sure but PB1 means that everyone can play, no mater if you have land....what i undersatnd 😄

[timber glacier]

I would assume PB1 would be Private Beta 1 (as in still only open to landholders) so probably the minting window for season 1. But don't quote me on that.

I'll try to find out, gimme a moment.

[timber glacier]

That would be Public Beta 1.
The plan is for IZ to start a little ahead of the other games so there's fuel available for players to get into the Overworld when that launches.

[tawny tide]

Do all land owners have access to the alpha?

esssentially if I transfer lands will I be able to play on that new account?

[vivid cipher]

Yes.

But all in game progress for that plot is wiped if the land NFT is transferred at this point.

[tawny tide]

okay ty

[heady dew]

has anyone done any estimates on how much roi per land we'll have ?

[radiant sky]

impossible to know now, with no info about how much fuel per run, how many players to play, how many active plots, how much is the effective output of fuel extractors/converters in open beta... you basically pretty much any number missing you would need to calculate

[vivid cipher]

It’s all correlated to how many paying players there are at this point but here are my thoughts #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Some argue that convertors help increase the effectiveness of lower tier land more than they increase the effectiveness of higher tier land but I’m skeptical. But maybe it is like 25% easier to produce fuel with each reduction of land tier. I may look at creating another variable to account for that factor.

[radiant sky]

i wonder who spreads such rumors

[lyric lodge]

What ?

[vivid cipher]

I guess Johnny probably knows what he’s talking about.

I’ve not seen anyone on a t1 getting significantly higher productivity though. Also, while it may technically be possible I don’t think the average land player will be operating at maximum efficacy. The average player will likely be average.

[radiant sky]

i don't doubt that about johnny any second 🙂

But what was known at landsale about converters? They can convert 1 fuel into another with a possible small fee. No mentioning of passive production nor the fact you could turn the small fee into a + production with efficiency. Which changes at least overall balance, right? Instead of a t1 being limited to a max fuel output of 1 Extractor, it could now in theory be built up to a fuel plot with the converters. So basically the share of higher tier gets diluted, no?
Also all these changes help the T1 to build up faster.... way faster.... while high tiers are anyways limited from just having 1 builder.

[vivid cipher]

25% increase for each tier lower did technically turn 1 fuel plot into 2. It felt too weird.

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-what-that-means-i-have-no-clue-what-youre-talking-about-clueless-huh-what-gif-17107312

[vivid cipher]

Ahahaa it does not matter. I’m a crazy person running numbers that I delude myself into thinking might actually predict something.

[amber atlas]

Converter bonuses were also boosted by plot bonus. So even if the most efficient plot was just all converters, the higher tiers would still be far better. But any change which makes T1's relatively better 'dilutes' higher tiers, just like any change which makes T4's relatively better dilutes lower tiers share. Kind of obvious 😛

The Converter change (reduction in output) was applied not because of relations between Tiers but because it devalued the Sites, which are supposed to be the interesting differentiator between land Plots (along with the Landmarks). It also just 'felt bad' from a game lore perspective. Once Marketplace was in (evne in its 'faked' form) there was no need to keep it like that.

Although there will always be people who think T1's are too slow (and also people who think T1's are too fast) I think the speed of progression is pretty good. Remember in Open Beta you will be able to buy Builders too.

---

Once we establish a baseline, and there are known relationships between T1 and T4 which are 'locked in' by the production of real Fuel, it will become harder to make changes which impact relative value, but I think there will need to be an acceptance of some variation over time, or else we will be very hamstrung from a game design perspective.

[blazing ferry]

Will builders be attached to each land plot and transfer with those plots? Thus increasing value of that piece of land once purchased?

[amber atlas]

No

[blazing ferry]

Attached to the account somehow then?

[amber atlas]

An NFT which in the game world you 'send' to a plot, locking it to that plot for a certain amount of time.

[blazing ferry]

Whoa....

[amber atlas]

Selling the plot would unlock it (but probably still with a cool down).

[blazing ferry]

Love it

cool downs always so you can't just move it daily to other plots?

[amber atlas]

Dmitriy is the new game designer and he will come up with the details of the mechanic (timing, etc), but yes that's the intent of cool downs.

[blazing ferry]

Sounds great, hey DM me if you could, think I'm looking at one of your illuvitars on the market

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[whole bison]

Can anyone point me in the direction for docs on how the illuvium zero blueprints work in regards to what and how I can keep as NFTs?
Sorry, I tried looking on website FAQ and through discord but didn't have any luck 😬

[amber atlas]

The minting feature is not yet released. Its expected to be released shortly before the Open Beta launch.

Once it is launched, it basically involves opening a structure menu, selecting the Blueprint from the list, and clicking mint. There's no signing or any special stuff required beyond that.

The Blueprint NFT will be minted to the same wallet attached to your account (the one that holds the land).

[wicked horizon]

When does IZ officially go live

[dry mango]

Q4

[hasty wagon]

Are there any apis available to fetch in game data of ILZ?

[rustic magnet]

@dry mango when is illuvium zero season 2? Don't see it roadmap

[dry mango]

The Illuvium Zero will be released alongside the main game as it's on the roadmap; it's not divided into seasons. I believe you might have confused it with the Illuvium Beyond waves, right?

This is the schedule for Illuvium Zero, the beta will be launched alongside the main game, featuring blockchain integration.

[reef vapor]

Guys anyone know when the next data wipe is ?

[vivid cipher]

No. It is tba

[reef vapor]

Will they continue data wipes every season ?

[vivid cipher]

No.

[reef vapor]

So evey season the data gets wiped ?

Ohhh I see I see

Thank you

[vivid cipher]

Just alpha season 1 gets wiped.

[reef vapor]

So there’s just 1 more data wipe right ?

[vivid cipher]

That’s what it sounds like.

[reef vapor]

Awsome

When u get to level 2000 u start at level 100 or something like that right ?

[reef vapor]

After the data gets wiped

[vivid cipher]

Currently that happens. There will have been some game build updates before the data gets wiped. So who knows what will have been implemented by then.

[high hinge]

Whats the point of another wipe? There is a fixed number of lands and you have to own a land. Unless they are planning on created more land before or at the next "release" i dont see a reason to wipe. Other than its going to get even more boring fast if they dont keep making us restart. Not the restarting over and over is an amazing experience.

[high hinge]

I can i trust this graph when its clearly not up to date?

[stoic vine]

i just changed my password why i cannot log in

[stoic vine]

i can log in on website

[vivid cipher]

You can now? Or you still cannot? If there’s an account problem then you need to contact #❓❓〕support at the site shared in that channel

[vivid cipher]

I added some text to this.

[spring mist]

hey community, I got a bit sick yesterday so didn't get the time to do the tech update, it'll be up later today, sorry about that 🙏

[hoary forge]

everything's ok. rest and get well soon. I am a little sick too.

[stoic vine]

i can know no worries

[spring mist]

you saw nothing (yet)

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Illuvium Zero Tech Update [07/24 - 07/28]

Hello everyone, let's go for a game and tech update!

First of all, apologies for no update yesterday, I managed to catch a bad cold in the middle of french summer... doing better today!

So what has been happening on the IZ front:

• minting is pretty much functional on our internal environment: we can discover blueprints without cheating, send mint requests and get our minted blueprints during the minting window! There is still a bit of technical work to be done (mostly how the UI is presented ingame + Illuvidex) but the entire flow, from validation to freshly baked mints is there 🙂
• we had another internal demo for the beta last friday and feedback was extremely positive. This is mostly thanks to Matt and Theodor's hard work during this last sprint, with the complete rewrite of our activities system like I talked about last week. We're leaving a lot of flexibility in the new system to allow us to create crazy new activities
• one of the biggest highlight of the last sprint is that we've got about 90% of the early game activities redone, and this new sprint, we plan to go back on scanning and research, make it more robust for after season 1
• another highlight is that we're now able to ship testable internal demos for all of our platforms, including WebGL. This means that our QA can start taking over and make sure that we haven't broken anything
• game design is also being deeply reviewed, scanning and research in particular, with features we wanted to see in the alpha that didn't make it: storage, data manipulation... this new sprint we're taking a look at obstacles and goals

A small note on the feedback that the community has been giving here and on #1116402720258142238 : we are reading them and taking them into account! Feel free to express yourselves (nicely please) on the current state of the game and what you want to see in the beta.

I promised some additional animation leaks last week, so this week, check out the new shimmering on holographic statues! We're still reviewing our VFX assets, so more and more new animations are going to start appearing in the next few weeks!

Thank you for your patience and trust!

[radiant sky]

True, the dilution might not be as big as it sounded on my post, but it's still slightly there since low tiers have more space to build converters than higher tiers, right?
And the difference in pace of building up a plot changed aswell, right? I mean i play all tiers now in S1 and i think the tier1 pace is pretty spot on as it is now in s1 (👍 ), but when i imagine a t1 building speed without converter it would be slowed massively, whereas a t4 doesn't really need to build converters at all, because you get already enough fuel out of the extractors to build the base up. Adding buyable builders doesn't sound like a fair compromise for higher tiers to me.

like basically... Tier 1 building pace is too slow what do we do? Add passiv generation to converters... Helped a lot, tier 1 is in a good spot in building pace, what do we add for higher tiers? ... sell them some builders... 😅
i'm sure there are many thoughts going into this and is rather difficult to balance out... but can be taken by community like this. 🙃

[wispy prism]

Awesome sauce. Thanks Julien.
I'm excited to play the next adventure.

[radiant sky]

looks like the energy input in your holo statue is not stable. You might consider building a powerstation closer to it 😆

[timber glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/star-switch-lights-on-lights-off-gif-8214603

No it's just a drone malfunctioning

[tawny tide]

im hoping when it officially launches, land progress is attached to the land and not the account

its definitely doable because Yuga is doing that with the forge

[vivid cipher]

It is planned

[whole bison]

Thanks for the info. So there is nothing I really need to do beyond researching the blueprint for now?

[fair temple]

Building the zero point transducer to lvl 3

[iron laurel]

To 3?👀
Well, I need to revisit the ones I thought done. 😂

[atomic nexus]

When blueprints is available to withdraw?

[radiant sky]

It's not known yet, which lvl will be required for the bp minting process.
lvl3 is max lvl, so you are safe for sure.

[radiant sky]

The minting window is somewhere arround open beta launch, which is expected to be in q4 2023

[digital arch]

For the buildings stated purpose in moving minerals, why would the ZPT be used for minting blueprints?

[radiant sky]

moving "matter"... i guess BP are also made out of matter 🙃

[vivid cipher]

Dang. Good thing someone is reading

[ember solar]

any ideas for how long is the minting window is going to be avalible (D,W,M)

[radiant sky]

Nope, no idea

My guess is below 2 weeks, but idk.

[weary bluff]

yoyoyo long time no see

[ember solar]

ok thanx

[iron laurel]

Well, I sure hope it's level 1 because 3 is expensive.

[karmic cipher]

hello everyone, good afternoon, is there an illuvium zero scholarship?

[lofty bramble]

The polemos guild has a scholarship program currently running

[cunning surge]

Hey guyz, how many biodata can be found?

[vivid cipher]

5

[cunning surge]

ty

[radiant sky]

Most likely

[karmic cipher]

Link dong mate

[drowsy dove]

Hi y’all

I just started playing today, I have two plots and started playing on both at the same time.
I got to lvl 3 on one of the plots, then I switched to the other plot and played a little bit, when I went back to first plot, everything that I had built were gone except for 2 structures, and my lvl was back to 2

[lethal wyvern]

How to report a Bug?

Illuvium: Zero does not have an in-game reporting system

If you encounter any issues while playing Illuvium: Zero, we encourage you to submit a request through our online support portal: http://link.illuvium.io/bug. This is the best way to report bugs, as it allows us to track and address issues more efficiently.

[whole spear]

If you create a ticket and report the bug they should be able to help you out pretty quick @drowsy dove

[drowsy dove]

Thank you, I’ll open a ticket

[pallid slate]

Well I am lvl 3 on a T1 so really doable 😉
With T2+ it s clearly a piece of cake I guess

And I just build it the day of the announce that it s required

[dark tide]

Anmmy clue about what will be needed to mint? Is it fuel in game, ILV, sILV, ETH, ....???

[empty path]

Minting is free on L2

[hoary salmon]

after you get all 15 blueprints is there really anything else to achieve or was that the main feedback they were learning for this release?

[pseudo pulsar]

@hoary salmon practice...

[dim nebula]

How many blueprints could we have during the Alpha test?

[dry mango]

15

[dim nebula]

3 each max right?

thank you mate~

[cedar herald]

oh my god, i am gone be busy for a while then

[mild umbra]

So no other illuvials are possible to find besides Atlas, Archie, Kukka, Tatopee, Ti-Ru?

[empty path]

Not yet

[tawny tide]

We are allowed to use scholars for illuvium zero right?

[radiant sky]

Well... It's your nft. I guess you can do whatever you want with it.

[tawny tide]

Just wanted to make sure there wasn't some terms of service issue but I think I remember even some team members talking about having people play for them

[radiant sky]

Yea absolutely

Polemos guild is doing it Big.... They have hundreds of plots

[tawny tide]

Well if it is allowed and anyone wants to use some let me know. Lots of scholars looking to join illuvium, I basically did 50/50 split on the blueprints since I don't have time to build them up myself

[fallen sail]

How long til I can make money playing illuvium zero

[tawny tide]

You can get 15 blueprints for playing right now that will be tradable.

[dry mango]

Q4

[devout panther]

There will be some fee to sell the fuel when the game launch ?

[dry mango]

Fuels are ERC-20 tokens at first, there will be a fee from the network itself for converting it into other ERC-20 tokens

[unborn pilot]

Is it a known issue for a bunch of your progress to just be lost on a land randomly? One of my lands was like level 70+ and it just regressed to 48 and lots of stuff I built a couple days ago is gone

[stray narwhal]

Anyone know if we will lose all progress on our land when the full game goes live? Thanks

[radiant sky]

yes we will

[radiant sky]

please contact #❓❓〕support they might be able to get your progress back.
just make sure to always logg out properly before you switch devices.

[stray narwhal]

Okay. Thanks!

[unborn pilot]

Thanks- what does "logging out properly" mean? I've been closing the clients does that not count as logging out?

[radiant sky]

should i think.
i always go back to homescreen before hitting altf4

[unborn pilot]

Ok got it I'll try to do that from now on Thank you

[radiant sky]

i feel like the glowy edge arround a building when you select it, should be brighter.You almost don't see what building you actually selected.

[split vortex]

Is there a place where i cen See what prices the Last mega citys are sold

[true chasm]

@grizzled jay

[potent pollen]

It is not possible to check when and if the MC was sold, but it is possible to check which and when plots have been sold in the past on illuvidex.

[split vortex]

Where are some mega citys listed i saw one in opensea, can the bundle them in illuvidex ore immutable too?

[weak elm]

Same thing happened to me. Switched from phone to desktop without logging out and lost progress

[split vortex]

Can WE make offer to non listed Lands?

[vivid cipher]

Bundles are not a feature that is available on imx at this time.

[split vortex]

Does someone know trippyyogi

[vivid cipher]

I do not think so.

[vivid cipher]

Any DMs are scams. That i know.

@opaque nebula ?

[split vortex]

Oh yes thanks

[vivid cipher]

I’ve not seen them active around here

[split vortex]

Maybe i can massge him and Hes the right Guy need a t1 from him

[vivid cipher]

Could be. You can try pinging people in #🛒〕land-dex too

[opaque nebula]

What’s up @split vortex

[split vortex]

Send U a dm

[whole spear]

<@&1093676082584096769> made this mostly and then @sleek vault and @grizzled osprey made it pretty

[harsh dew]

Will be pretty usefull Great job!

[blissful yoke]

Thus deserves a super reaction

[barren urchin]

Can we sale bluebrint

We have mint

Or still

The season not finish

[urban dome]

Hey guys. Where can I report a bug i'm experiencing to ILV devs? Looks like my Nexus is mining a solon.

[gusty dome]

You can make offers on tokentrove but not sure illuvium community use it a lot

And not sure about the unlisted ones

[radiant sky]

#❓❓〕support

[radiant sky]

No, season 1 is still in going. No new info for minting window. It is expected to be in q4.

[sterile gust]

Yo guys I got my first Archie fact in the illuvium zero game

Do you need all 5 pieces for a blueprint?

Or how does it work

[nova epoch]

Sorry Moonboy69 (nice name btw) that you have to read a bit 🤣

[harsh dew]

@tulip fox

[gentle sail]

just found my first biodata

is it time to research?

[radiant sky]

Absolutely, if your Element production is high enough 🙂

[tall bear]

so when minting happen, any plot will mint the same blueprints making them super common right ?

[harsh dew]

Yep

[tall bear]

no point in upgrading the singularity scanner for now since only tier 1 illuvials exist atm right ?

[radiant sky]

Yep

[vapid quartz]

Progress bubbles are too large. They limit being able to click the buildings behind them. Hoping these get reduced in size for Beta.

[radiant sky]

They got a lot smaller... Can't find the leak somehow

Would also be nice if you could toggle them on and off like stage and efficiency

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[vapid quartz]

While we are talking improvements, the other big one is the pop-up for each level up. I don't need to be informed that I have leveled from 395 to 396. Just let me collect the resources in peace and not get my flow interrupted with every level up.

[radiant sky]

Absolutely. I feel Like a glowing edge arround the lvl button for a lvl up could solve that annoying problem completely

[vapid quartz]

perfect! Its amazing how much work this Web3 team does. It's almost like they are normal Web2 professionals.

[vapid quartz]

that's a good idea. A little light ring, no pop-up, still get the message, good.

[blazing ferry]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[radiant sky]

Yea... A Pop up every 10^x lvl where you get something special sounds ok

[split vortex]

Whats the best way to buy sell a mega City?

Where IT can get bundled sold

[empty path]

Only way to sell in a bundle atm is to move them to L1 and sell them on OS. It's a hassle

[split vortex]

Is there a Video or smth how this works

[empty path]

Nope

[split vortex]

@opaque nebula please Check DM

[vestal spear]

If you click the building you see twice it will select the building behind it

[manic pilot]

Is this ilv zero store in the game or on the ilv website?

[empty path]

There isn't any atm

[zinc adder]

Is there any benefit of upgrading scanner and lab? Like increased success rate or more chance of dropping higher tiers

[radiant sky]

nope, it's just for open beta for higher tiers.
in s1 we just have t1 available

[fierce fern]

Kinda sad that prices dropping so much.

Hoped that at this time it would be dobble the Investment not half

[split vortex]

Can someone Send me a Link how mutch Boost for t3/ t4 Lands?

[radiant sky]

https://illuvium.io/news/51-illuvium-land-sale-explained

[split vortex]

Thanks

A t4 Land has a Boost of 300% for all the fuels on IT ore Just the fuel that Matches with the Landmark?

[radiant sky]

on all fuel

landmark gives you the ability to push 1 fuel up to 175% efficiency instead of 150%.

[split vortex]

OK thx

[bronze turtle]

Just made me realise I've "finished" the incentivised part of the game.

Thought I needed to level up further to get more Biodata.

[high hinge]

This really should be changed/fixed. It has to be very simple, and would go a long way toward building confidence with marginalized members of the community.

[high hinge]

Common and cosmetic. A winning combo!

[little moon]

One plot down (Tier 2), one to go (Tier 1)

[vapid quartz]

did Illuvium Zero music change?

this is a song I haven't heard before

its good, upbeat

[split vortex]

@amber atlas does the illuvium Team Make trustfull middleman deals for mega citys?

[empty path]

No

[split vortex]

Kk

Ty

[obsidian moss]

Hi, what is the maximum amount of blueprints can i find on the land 1?

[amber atlas]

Definitely not. Any team member offering such services should be reported just like a scammer.

[empty path]

@whole spear offered it once

[amber atlas]

That was before the policy was made clear to the team.

[empty path]

aha

[split vortex]

;D

ITS not hard to implement bundle Sales Maybe for the Future you can ASK immutable x again to add the Funktion...

[harsh acorn]

I think I beat the game

[broken palm]

@hollow siren DM please sir

[half stone]

hi, sorry for the inconvenience. I would like to ask you what you think about this general situation concerning lands. will they recover? is it better to take a T3 now at this price?

[bronze turtle]

Most of all, the levels should become increasingly harder to complete.

At this stage the levels feel like an annoying pop up I get 10 times by session. Not a milestone.

Are you planning to have some features locked until X Level?

I don't see the purpose of them so far.

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[inner mango]

Is there an overview on blueprints, facts, and biodata?

I have 2 biodata so far. How many of each is available of each in beta?

[fair temple]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message for all 15 blueprints

And each of the five Illuvial biodata has 3 facts as well 👍

[little moon]

gm ILZ

[frail skiff]

Hi Team , do you know when it'll be possible to sell resources for ETH?

(Because I missed a lot of announcement 😅)

[empty path]

Q4

[frail skiff]

Will mint of Illuvials will be automatic?

[frail skiff]

Thanks 🙏

[radiant sky]

you can't mint illuvials in IZ

[little moon]

Just to expand on this (cause I need the discord points) - What you are minting in ILZ isn't illuvials, but skins for the illuvials and I don't believe it will all automatically happen without any input from the user. Probably just need to login and press a button or two though to take your blueprints and mint them into NFTs on chain.

[frail skiff]

So how will it happen? you know about it?

Yes I talk about BluPrints sorry

Not Illuvials

So yes like @little moon said skins for Ilvz

[empty path]

You'll need to mint them

[radiant sky]

no, you can mint blueprints if you found them, they are kinda like a recipe for skins for ranger and mozart. (really hope battle boards get included aswell.)

not much known about minting process yet.
I guess it will happen in the Zero Point Transducer, where you have to click a button.

[little moon]

+1 for battle boards

[onyx frigate]

for this season only can I find illuviums that are higher then tier 1????

[timber glacier]

No, there's only the 5 Tier 1 illuvials
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[junior depot]

@amber atlas The Zero Point Transducer is only up to level 3. I thought it should be level 4 so that we can mint.

[radiant sky]

Max lvl of zpt is 3.
It is not known yet what lvl it needs to be to be able to mint the bp out of s1

[junior depot]

ok thanks

[cerulean kettle]

I’ve already found all the blueprints on all my plots. My question is do I have to uninstall the version of Illuvial Zero and then update with the latest version to be able to mint the NFTs off the blueprints, when that time comes?

[blissful yoke]

From my understanding yes. I don't know if it's official yet.

[lofty void]

Hey there , morning yall.

I just got my first blue print.. just curious, it says hybrid armour 1, is there anything else i can get from the same bio data?

[nova epoch]

yea, there are 5 different bio data to find and for each you can get 3 different blue prints

[gentle sail]

i just found a fact...what do i do with a fact?

and how exactly do i get a blue print from my biodata?

[radiant sky]

read it have and have a lough 🙂

[gentle sail]

how long does one biodata last?

[radiant sky]

forever

or until next wipe i guess

at least thats the case with the info provided

[gentle sail]

thx!

[unborn osprey]

how come we're looking for another backend dev for zero? just adding to the team or did we lose somebody?

[whole spear]

Don't think anyone left to my knowledge

[vernal estuary]

Is there a way to zoom out or change resolution?

[vivid cipher]

You can pinch or scroll to change zoom. But only up to a certain point. Resolution can’t be changed I don’t think. These features will be added though.

[vernal estuary]

Once a building is placed, can it be moved?

[vivid cipher]

Yes

But not while it’s being built or upgraded. Or while it’s running an activity

[vernal estuary]

Any major mistakes or pitfalls one should avoid on their land?

[heavy hamlet]

Only build one nexus, one engineering bay, and one quantum fabricator

[heavy hamlet]

Don't be afraid to use the tokens to speed up development early on. Just be mindful that they reduce build times up to 1 hour, so don't burn them on buildings that take less than 15-20 minutes. They're really helpful at getting through those 30-60 minute build time windows

Mine during the day, do major buildings and upgrades during the night

[vernal estuary]

I feel im in a conundrum with main goal asking me to build a Cryptovium excavator. Takes 20k carbin which I can't store

[heavy hamlet]

Ooh, you can stash excess resources in the marketplace by placing orders. There is no limit. The order either goes through or gets cancelled

[radiant sky]

Actually after 2h up to an hour.... But you need just 1token for 1h 59m process time.

[vernal estuary]

I'm still trying to figure out Nexus II upgrade, but I only started a few hours ago

[paper lance]

wen 0.1 land

[radiant sky]

Upgrade storage, or build multiple storages.

[sage birch]

What does upgrading singularity scanner actaully do?

[radiant sky]

FAQ first question

[pallid slate]

Hey ! To make better decisions for reorganizing my investment is it possible to get these informations

• is the curent cost of crypton for runs in overworld is the one we LL have in public beta ?
• what are the team goals in term of production for a land fully optimized in fuel? ( T1: x/day, T2: xx/day ...)
  Thx guys if you have an answer to it !

[radiant sky]

1. No they are just place holders
2. Nothing has been shared yet.
   I guess a Lot of question could be answered as soon as fuel pool gets introduced.

[pallid slate]

Thx 😉 but I know, I am here since quite a long time following all, that s why I ask !
My question I actually "can the team share info on this so we can evaluate our options" 😛

[radiant sky]

Don't think you get that Info before they show how fuel pool works.

[pallid slate]

Well I am pretty sure they at least have an idea or sketch of what they intend to reach !

At least for exemple "a T1 land should give at least - 5 travel in T1 region / day" or stuff like that 😉

And even if we don t have something precise, that would at least ease some decision !

[radiant sky]

Not sure if it is that simple... Fixed numbers basically means the System is not scalable.

At least in my weird brain i See no Way 😆

[paper lance]

are you adding or dumping?

[broken palm]

Gents I finally made it in the club

[dense hawk]

I'm looking for illuvium zero manager 🙂

[blazing ferry]

check Polemos

[pallid slate]

Depends of what info we have, definitely not dumping, but either I stay like that and add ilv or get lands

[weary bluff]

5.3 eth for t4 daamn

did u check for how much it was bought

[iron veldt]

Why are the land prices going down? Do we have bad news?

[lunar tangle]

Can you already rent your land to someone else? Like ice poker ?:)

[foggy sage]

Can we mint the blue prints yet?

[radiant sky]

No.
Minting window will be in q4

[worthy panther]

Bear market and a lack of gameplay and fun!
Bear market is also specialy harder for NFT than currency🤷

[blazing ferry]

The Polemos guild has a rental system you can check out

[iron veldt]

thx

[gentle grove]

Should be happy they are going down because I think once they release the price of fuel they will go way up

[nova epoch]

sheesh land prices dropping dirty

gotta get another one

[severe sparrow]

What are they now?

[amber atlas]

Yeah looks like a good time to buy to me (not financial advice).

[devout panther]

Yes it’s the best time to buy it, i head some t2 and t1 and i m thinking to buy another, considering for example a t1 land it is a good estimate to think that the optimized production of fuel is worth 2$?

And the distribution of the 5% is worth 0,5 $ daily ? Thanks

[sharp elk]

Remember you can build more than one of each storage. That's the thing that most people get stuck at first time they play.

[lyric hamlet]

You must be new here. You didn't hear the plan in 2022? Keeping investors on edge that shortly after land sale, zero would be released. No information was given, no updates just a dum emoji saying "soon" for 7 months

[lyric lodge]

Not new at all....if you don't like the project feel free to move on

[lyric lodge]

Ah so painful for some ....but yeah maybe worth getting another one or two ...best time to buy. Really thought land would go up when zero started

[iron veldt]

the green ressource is the future fuel?

[hearty pendant]

Do we know anything about next land sale?

[radiant sky]

?fuel

[lethal wyvern]

What are each type of fuel used for?

In the Illuvium Universe, there are three different types of fuel Hyperion, Solon, and Crypton. These fuels are used in the Illuvium ecosystem for various purposes, such as curing shards, crafting weapons and upgrades, and traveling to different regions. Fuel production is driven by Illuvium Zero

In Illuvium: Overworld

• Hyperion is used to cure shards and capture Illuvials,
• Solon is used to craft weapons, armor, and other upgrades,
• Crypton is used to travel to different regions.

In Illuvium: Zero
Hyperion, Solon, and Crypton are commonly used in high-level buildings. These fuel types may be required in order to build or upgrade certain structures

[iron veldt]

thx

i instantly fomoed 1 t2 land because of Johnnys "no fincancial advice" 😄

[hearty pendant]

This means there prob won’t be another land sale till open beta right?

[radiant sky]

I personally would wait before you buy more low Tiers.
If there really gona be skins in IB collection rewards, low Tier most likely get a price dump as soon as landowners realize.

[radiant sky]

For sure not.

[iron veldt]

what means IB collection rewards?

[hearty pendant]

I think that a good idea for the staff is to be pretty clear on this since it really decides whether or not it’s a decent time picking up a land or two

[radiant sky]

Illuvium Beyond

[iron veldt]

but i really dont understand that if IB collections get skins - land prices could dumb? Can you explain this further? THX ^^

[radiant sky]

Like if it Turms out as leaked, it's basically a battle Pass where some of the collection rewards are going to be skins.

The Big value in t1/T2 is getting possible rare blueprints.
If Illuvium itself starts getting into skin sales it lowers the value current landholders were willing to pay for those tiers

[iron veldt]

ahh, okay thanks!

now i understand

[radiant sky]

T1-3 will be affected.
T4 not so much, since most bought it for fuel production

[iron veldt]

thx, thats an awesome information 🙂

[radiant sky]

NFA tho 😂

[hearty pendant]

How much were the t1 sold for in the Dutch action initially?

I don’t remember

[iron veldt]

too much NFA today for my little heart lol 🤣

[hearty pendant]

There were 68 batches?

Thought all got sold at same time

[empty path]

It was spread over 3 days

[hearty pendant]

Ah okay, damn my memory rly ain’t with me rn sry 😄

[iron veldt]

Do we have an estimated date when this info will be leaked?

[radiant sky]

not yet. But i guess they tell us before wave 2 goes live, and according to the new roadmap that happens in q3. So i guess we know pretty soon.
Price action could come way later, since a lot of the big landholders are not really active here in discord.

[iron veldt]

thx! 🙏🏼

[devout panther]

In Iz i can get 15 bluprint, why does the price of land go down if in IB they give as some bluprint ?

I mean the major value of a land, in my opinion is the fuel and the 5% of the total revenue. In ib maybe some bluprint will be relesed but i wish different respect Iz

And with a bp i can get infinity skin, so the price will be low, what do you mean when say rare bp? Isn t the same for all?

[radiant sky]

You might got some stuff wrong.
IZ: Blueprints (Recipe for skins) (Skinns and BP tradable)
IB: skins (maybe not tradable)

the 15 blueprints are just for S1. After open beta launch there will be way more blueprints available. I heared they are doing one for every illuvial. (even tho probably not all available at launch)
Major value of Low tiers have been blueprints, sure you get some fuel (now with converter mechanics even more than it was known at landsale), but with low tiers not really much. The optimal way has been in my opinion and a lot of others at this time to play the blueprint casino. Hoping you drop a rare blueprint, which not many people own (ideally you are the only one), which also has a cool look at least in the eyes of the majority of gamers, which would give the skin and especially the blueprint a high value.
Skins were basically only created by blueprint owners, and some rare occasions by illuvium itself (Special collabs, christmas, easter etc.)

If now Illuvium decieds to get into skin sales (new skins as rewards every new wave), also with more variety (Battleboard skins) you can't deny the worth of low tier land will be lowered.
Not only the worth get lowered of the lands, there are also kind of price rails getting set by IB for skins in general.

also all lands get 5% of fuel sales, there is no 5% of total revenue shared aswell.

[iron veldt]

Hey, may i ask what this means? 🙂

[radiant sky]

Like there is not much known about fuel pool. We all patiently waiting for info.
But basically if Land sell 1 fuel, the DAO sells 19. (Thats the 5% share land-pool gets.)

Like if every Landplot would build totally the same, thats the kind of share you can expect from fuel sales.

[devout panther]

@radiant sky Many Thanks for the answer, so i cant sell the skin created by the BP?

[radiant sky]

Oh no, you definetly cann sell the skin created by BP

IB skinns are probably not tradable.

[devout panther]

ah okok i understand now !

[devout panther]

Totaly agree with you, Maybe they can just give you Skin of your avatar and not for the illuvial, i dont kow

[radiant sky]

Illuvial Skins are not a thing (yet)
For now there are skins for:
Ranger (your avatar)
Drones (your hopefully sarcastic little friend)
Battleboards

IZ-BP's are kind of recipes to create skins for Ranger and mozart (for now)
IB rewards will be skins for ranger, mozart and battleboards (with leaked info for now)

[devout panther]

i was thinking the BP of atlas for example was the skin for atlas.. so i m wrong.. lol

[radiant sky]

yea, it's a skin for either ranger or drone, which has an atlas-style and you will need atlas besides other materials to create that skin

[devout panther]

Say that for me, If a t1 land will earn you 1 dollar a day it is a great investment

[radiant sky]

you are basically skining an atlas and sell it for others people to wear it ^^

[radiant sky]

i mean with current floor price, you would have a a 100% ROI within a year.
i would say most investment people would say that this is not shabby at all.

[devout panther]

Absolutly, in Financial terms 100% of ROI in a year it s Perfect

Thanks for your time !

[iron veldt]

How do u calculate 1$ a day?

[devout panther]

I didnt, it s a funny prediction, still now no one can say it

[iron veldt]

Ah okay 🙂 thx

[celest wagon]

we can change land sell 1 fuel ,the Dao sells 2 ??

why 19?

[radiant sky]

Everything is possible in a dao
This is just highly unlikely since owning token is needed to get into council which means token holders have to make that choice in the end. So they would basically cut their own Profits...
So as i said... Possible, but unlikely 🙂

[celest wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pikachu-crying-pokemon-gif-16694846

[radiant sky]

Would probably not even get to the council Stage, because voted down before, since there are 4x more token holders 😂

[celest wagon]

we can find a compromise 1 / 10 ?

people who invest in the lands have fewer tokens..

[radiant sky]

If i remember right the % share was higher for landowners in a first Version, but got changed to a compromise of 5:95

[celest wagon]

a weak voice in the community

[random sand]

What will the blueprint price would be ?

Is it worth to buy nft for good investment ?

[timber glacier]

1. We don't know.
2. We don't know.

[snow summit]

How much more time do you need to fix website login issue? I still can't download IZ update.

[blazing ferry]

Assuming a successful game, the compromise here will come in the timing/decision for a second land sale. Extending that as long as possible would be extremely good for land owners, so hopefully the community agrees not to rush into that next sale until land owners have been adequately satisfied with profit potential.

[split vortex]

Whats the best way to learn everything on illuvium Zero

Is there a pro on YouTube ore twich ore smth

[iron veldt]

I bought 2x t2 lands today - stop me guys from getting my next ones 😂

I’m so hyped for Illuvium ^-^

[timber glacier]

there are a few good ones on youtube, just search for "Illuvium Zero Tutorial" and they should be fairly easy to find

[radiant sky]

😂 you do what you have to do mate

[heavy hamlet]

Polemos has a short course in IZ on their site

[radiant sky]

No way to watch that without connecting wallet?

@tawny wasp

[tawny wasp]

Yes, it's the only site other than illuvium, I will say with confidence it is safe to connect 🙂

The course is actually by @indigo coral and really good too.

[radiant sky]

Thats what everyone says 😆

[radiant sky]

Yea, saw that... Was curious what best player has to Tell 🙃

[true sequoia]

@radiant sky for the price of each tier and what you guess to be the benefit, which tier (assuming you had the $ sitting around) would you buy today?

[radiant sky]

Ugh thats a tough question...

To answer this i need the stay up of my Couch, walk to the Computer and put the actual numbers into the calculator

[true sequoia]

lol

well if you ever get motivated let me know 😉

ps great analysis of perhaps why tier 1 has been dropping...I wonder when is it cheap enough to nibble.

[radiant sky]

you are lucky... fridge is on my way to the computer, and i ran out of grapes, so half the job was anyways done 😄

[true sequoia]

just so it's not grapes of wrath

[radiant sky]

well, as you certainly know, we have no clue what bp's will be worth one day, so i can't calcualte that in really if it comes to worth/$
also Landmark of t4 is not calculated in.
Also converters get underrated a bit, so the higher it actually would be a bit more value than i calculate.

but if it comes to fuel production:

1. T2
2. T3
3. ILV
4. T4
5. T1

calculated with these numbers.

[radiant sky]

i don't even know what that means 😄

[true sequoia]

That's where I came out with an off the cuff guess...2 is best

[radiant sky]

by far actually...

[true sequoia]

pretty famous book and movie 😉

and of course wrath is a great word on it's own

the revenge of the wraths

all those poor people who bought at auction....

best decision I made was selling my 1's to buy a 2

[radiant sky]

yep... my first mint... was a great experience... what followed not so much 😄

[true sequoia]

lol

Yeah, hopefully they hold out on the second land sale...and they should with runway and game coming out. And then we'll see on fuel....

[heavy hamlet]

Scoriox has some videos on youtube

[radiant sky]

OK... Was just interested in what Viper has to tell 🙃

[heavy hamlet]

Go for it. His course is good and time efficient

[radiant sky]

Naaa... Don't connect wallets to sites if it doesn't have to be.

[gentle grove]

@radiant sky what's ur best guess on what the price of each fuel will be

[radiant sky]

Absolutely no clue...
But when i saw prices for disks, i feeled an overworld Run is going to be more expensive than i wished it would be 😆

[nova epoch]

is there a correlation between disks and ow runs? 👀

[radiant sky]

It's Kind of Like pricing in General.
Disks were quite expensive for what they were at that point... merch was quite expensive... So i don't expect ow Runs to be cheap as hell...

Pricing of other products is pretty much the only factor you could calculate in for some calculations with no Hands and feets....
No Info related to pricing of overworld Runs got leaked yet. At least i haven't seen anything

You could do assumptions and Google salaries of not so wealthy countries, what they have to spend and what they have left a month since ilv wana be played world wide. Google what an average player is willing to pay a month for other card game Packs. Google what other Players spend for Games in General a month. Take an average out of your Results and add some ilv premium on it, und you might get close to it.

[gentle grove]

Yeah they keeping pricing on things pretty tight lipped

[radiant sky]

Maybe because they don't know either what it will actually be 😂

Maybe they wana collect data from other sales in Web 3 Games until last minute, to fix a price

Even tho that would probably be pretty Bad idea 😆

[full dune]

Hi guys can I play illuvium Zero on my iPad?

[blazing ferry]

Hey @spring mist, thanks for these updates. One thing I'm eager to hear is what changes will be coming with beta to improve the experience for holders of multiple land plots. 161 wallets hold 20% of the plots and 1275 wallets currently have 4+ land plots (52% of all land held). This does not include Polemos and others who have split their land holdings to multiple wallets already.

It would be nice to know we can have a good experience without splitting lands out to multiple wallets for lending or being forced to sell due to being unable to realize the in-game benefits.

Not necessarily looking for something revolutionary because even UX improvements could go a very long way here. I've put in many feature requests, just have no idea what's coming and what's not. Thanks for your work on ILZ and any insights you can share!

[subtle frost]

is illuvium zero season one over?

[empty path]

No

[subtle frost]

oh okay

when is it ending

also is Kieran opening all the alpha packs now LOL

[little moon]

anyone able to explain whats going on here. Same plot and i have leveled up both condenser plants to the max. one is lvl 7 and the other lvl 9. anyone able to explain why I can only take one of them to L7?

[vivid cipher]

Visually… they look the same to me. Is it just a name display bug?

[little moon]

view the condenser plant

one IX the other VII

[vivid cipher]

I see the Roman numerals. But the structure in game looks the same

[little moon]

correct

out put is different as well

[vivid cipher]

Is the upgrade button simply gone because it’s active?

[little moon]

good point, will check

ffs

thaats what is was

[vivid cipher]

[little moon]

thanks

[iron veldt]

So t2 are the most valuable in terms of fuel to play the game rn?

Soo many people minted for 3000$ - might be a cheap price to get some more now?

[lethal valley]

is getting blueprints harder now than before? whats the probability to get one?

[paper lance]

wait for cheaper

[radiant sky]

On a very basic lvl yes.
Keep in mind, there is no megacities Stuff calculated in, nor a time factor of the human playing it.

[radiant sky]

Already told him 😂

[iron veldt]

i got my 2x t2 for 850$ and 820$ - hopefully not too bad deal

my patience skill is level zero

😄

[fair temple]

Less than half an eth each? Thats pretty solid íf we are indeed around the bottom as people are speculating...
T2 price fluctuated between 0.75 and 1.3 eth over the past year. So lets hope we go back to those levels "soon" xD

[iron veldt]

I just really love the artwork and playstyle of Illuvium- all my lands will be used to have ingame more fuel (that’s why we tried to go more on crypton for the lands)

[radiant sky]

Who's speculating we are at the bottom?

[fair temple]

I mean. There are always people speculating we are at the bottom. Mostly after the short 5-10% pump of ILV, people were like woohooo.

Idk i would have to go through #💰〕token again xD

[radiant sky]

Ah, you talking about token.
Wrong chat ser 😝

[iron veldt]

Are there btw also airdrops for landholders in Ilv?

[radiant sky]

Not that i know Off.
Airdrops isn't really a thing at illuvium anyways.

[iron veldt]

Thx for the answer

[iron veldt]

Are you also hodling some ilv land btw?

[radiant sky]

I have some, yes... Should have Sold them Long time ago 😂

Could have trippled the numbers

[iron veldt]

damn

[sterile gust]

What happens if you have blueprints and then sell the land? Can you still claim the nfts later or are they bound to the land

[radiant sky]

For now they are bound to the Land, since they are just an assets and not nft yet.

[sterile gust]

Right, thanks for the fast response

[radiant sky]

If you sell the Land or Senf it to another of your wallets, all progress will be wiped afaik.

[balmy ruin]

Why??

bugged? No one else signed in

@noble quest

Showed this error the moment I log in

@violet karma need help

[empty path]

Please stop pinging the admins, they can't help you with this.
Just press ok and keep playing or wait for a mod or make a #❓❓〕support ticket

[balmy ruin]

You dont understand,it's bugged

cannot login

[hoary forge]

Please send a report to #❓❓〕support
They will help you. And as fraggy said. Please don't ping the admins.

[radiant sky]

Are you logged in on multiple devices at the Same time?

[mortal smelt]

wow the prices have fallen on lands close to beta launch...weird, too bad I don't have enough to scoop

[balmy ruin]

Nope, server error I guess

[radiant sky]

Yea, saw it once or twice aswell, but i could just Click it away and move on.

[atomic cobalt]

Hey everyone, I have a bug in ilv zero, where should I report it?

[radiant sky]

#❓❓〕support

[hoary forge]

You can use the bug report in-game too.

[atomic cobalt]

Is it still up 😂 I guess I was to blind to find it

[radiant sky]

There is one in IZ?

[undone skiff]

Is there a way to increase the number of active building upgrade without using credits?

[hoary forge]

On the info box there is help and support. But I checked and it's going to the main illuvium website.
Better use #❓❓〕support then.

[radiant sky]

No. Possible we have multiple builders in open beta.

[undone skiff]

Will our progress reset once open beta start?

[radiant sky]

Yes

[snow summit]

A lot of people can't even login to the website to download the current version of the game because they can't fix not working gcaptcha for months now. I can't either but I didn't sell my land which was a mistake in hindsight.

[mortal smelt]

maybe ive been out of the loop for a min but my lands are working fine...

[snow summit]

They do work fine, but a lot of people can't update their game because they can't login to the website.

[mortal smelt]

i just logged in twice and downloading the update rn just finished downloading

I cannot replicate the issues you and these people are having

maybe clear cache?

[snow summit]

Like I don't know that
This is a confirmed issue and it doesn't affect everyone, there is nothing I can do from client side.

[mortal smelt]

i can understand if its an isolated incident and if it affects getting blueprints, if this is a ongoing issue pretty sure the team is trying to get it looked at.

[snow summit]

They said they are, multiple times, it is not isolated at all, it just doesn't affect everyone. I could technically ask sb to upload the newest version to mega but since I literally got the last blueprint a day before it got broken I am not in a rush. I was just trying to answer your question, I know a number of people who sold their land because of this issue, of course this might not be the only reason prices dropped but it is likely a factor.

[mortal smelt]

understood thank you for filling me in, appreciate you taking your time to give me the breakdown. will be looking forward to the updates.

[inner mango]

Does the material lab find blue prints and facts?

I have 3 biodata now, once I get to 5 I can get rid of my scanners and maybe have multiple labs running?

[blazing ferry]

Yes and Yes

[nova epoch]

yea I hope they will change the costs between stage 1, 2, 3 runs... 10x from stage 1 to 3 is way too much. I mean 2$ for a stage 3 run would be nice, then it'd be 0,2$ for stage 1, but I'm with you feeling more like it will be 2$ for stage 1 and 20$ for stage 3 xD

on the other hand it really would make illuvials worth a lot

no clue, but obviously very hard to balance and very interesting 😄

[sharp elk]

The cost of runs has a direct impact on the value of the illuvials that people catch on those runs.

In my personal opinion I don’t think having dirt cheap illuvials would be good for the game economy.
Would take a lot of the fun out of playing Overworld.

Oh look there is that tier 3 illuvial that you can buy off the market for $3 yay! 😏

[fair temple]

Imagine needing 13 of those 3$ T3s to get a decent deck. We removed the S1 - can be used as - S3 in the last Arena proposal.

So... i think 3$ is quite a lot in that case.

[radiant sky]

i think that would be quite cheap... duno how pvp works, but you might also wana have some t1 or t2 in your deck... for a competitive deck? cheap af...

also s1 or s2 instead of full s3 deck

[fair temple]

I mean if we go off similar rates as we have in Beyond, a T3 would be like 20x as easy to obtain as a T5. So 60$ for a rhamphy? XD i dont know. It probably isnt a fair comparison, but i hope we dont get to that point 😄

I know the gaming sub council + team will come to a good price range so I'll leave it to them.

[radiant sky]

i wouldn't mind t5 being super rare and not in every deck

[fair temple]

I messed up the comma lol i did 600$ for a rhamphy before. That would be insane. 60$ makes some sense actually

[radiant sky]

like... whats special about ramphire if every last noob is having him in the deck....

i like 600$ more 😄

and i think it is worse... remember grant or aaron talking about scarcity... there might be illuvials never cought... if that didn't change, good luck with 60$ ramphire 😄

[zinc adder]

Is there any use for the transducer right now? It's for nfts right? Although after reading the description, it seems like it is for transferring resources between the plots.

[fair temple]

The plan seems to be to have the Zero-point-transducer be required in the minting process.
You would do well in upgrading it to lvl 3 before the end of the season ^^

[zinc adder]

Minting will only be available in open beta right? And everything is going to be reset.

Is there still some benefit in upgrading it?

[fair temple]

The 15 blueprints that you can obtain during this season can be minted shortly prior to the open beta. So yes there is benefit to upgrading the transducer and obtaining the 15 blueprints before the open beta reset 🙂

[zinc adder]

ohh did not know that, thanks a lot for the info

[snow summit]

Fantastic news given the fact that I haven't touched my lands since gcaptcha bug started preventing me (and a lot of other people) from updating the game (that would be months of hearing it will be fixed soon).

[spring mist]

definitely looking to make this ways better for the beta! We're taking your feedback into account for the development, that said I can't share in detail yet what will change. But I can spoil that there are UX improvements and more relating to wallet handling 🙂

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Illuvium Zero Tech Update [07/31 - 08/04]

Hello everyone, let's go for a game and tech update!

Let's start with a list of what's been happening:

• we are gold for minting blueprints internally! Even though we are conducting some more tests to verify the system's solidity, our QA has already managed to mint a few blueprints on testnet. All that remains is a final UX pass and we should be ready for the end of season 1 🙂 keep in mind that this is still a ways off, we're just making sure that everything is ready when we announce the minting window
• hard work on the backend authority code has started with Igor, and we're aiming for our first internal build using it by the end of the month. Technically, validation steps on player actions are executed both locally and on the backend to verify that there is no foul play while keeping the gameplay smooth and without delays. We're still missing quite a bit of UX in case of errors, but that's also being worked on
• we've redone the passive generation and scan activities using our previous architecture redo work, Theodor has been booking it to make them way easier to maintain and overall more optimized. Especially scans where the beta will have a lot more than five different illuvials
• keeping on the UI/UX front, Matt has been redoing a lot of our screens to better match new functionalities and overall better usage of our screenspace. We're also thinking on having way more responsive UI depending on if you're on a phone or a computer
• we've got some new peeps joining the team very soon, I hope to introduce them to you beautiful people soon enough 🙂

As always, a small animation leak today, which is more performance related than visuals, since you've probably already seen these VFX in the season 1. This has been one of my main goals these past few weeks, to overhaul our particle system to make it more robust, aka show millions of particles on screen without melting your devices. This is taken straight from the latest beta build and while it's a 256 color gif, you might also capture some additional visual details that we're adding to the UI 🙂

Thank you for your patience and trust!

[spring mist]

oh I forgot to add, @wild star has been freed from OW duty to check on my VFX work, we did it team

[fair temple]

well played dude! 😄 gratz!

[bitter phoenix]

Do we have a definite answer on what lv zero point transducer we need to mint blueprints?

[high sleet]

Thanks for the dm btw fam. Gonna add you for real on discord since I respond better here

So the landmark allows converters to go to 175% efficiency. That's on top of the 10% boost right?

And does it work on harvesters too?

[spring mist]

will get back to you on this one, I'm not exactly sure myself, need to dig into the alpha game design

[nova epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-lets-goo-lest-gooooooooooooooooo-gif-19416648

[amber atlas]

EDIT: You are correct, the table I posted was old data.

[high sleet]

I may or may not be running calcs on fuel output differentials between different tiers 😛 Gonna take me a while longer but you might find it helpful

[high sleet]

Also does this 175% efficiency thing apply to harvesters? My T3 doesn't got no aligned harvesters 😛

[high sleet]

What table did you post?

[radiant sky]

Wait what?
Wasn't it 10% boost, and got increased to 25% boost, and this by increasing the Max efficiency?
So all you get is +25% efficiency with landmark?

[high sleet]

Hold up hold up.

So since Johnny said I am right it works like this.

If u have x landmark. Any converters that line up get 25% increase to.max efficiency, you still need to put the power stations to achieve that. On top of all that they get a flat 10% boost

[radiant sky]

Yes, you need powerstations.
As far as i remember i dont See this 10% boost in output numbers. But i can Check that later...

[high sleet]

I need to double check as well. I haven't run the numbers yet but I was going off the assumption of the originally promised 10%. If they removed that it's anyone's guess. Let me double check now

[radiant sky]

I'm 99% sure there is no such thing as a 10% boost

[high sleet]

Both on 150% efficiency exactly

I have a silicon landmark

I suspect adding 5k instead of 7k is an order of operations thing more than anything

But nonetheless proof that there's a boost

Again all 150%

@amber atlas why did one converter at 150% say a different output to another. Is the 150% number ignoring decimals that are still used to calculate outputs?

Ah @radiant sky it appears you are right. No 10% boost. I suppose they removed it and I missed the memo 🤣🤣 otherwise it would be a 78k bump. This simply seems like a backend rounding thing since they have the ability to surpass 150

[radiant sky]

Well congrats, doesn't apply to fuel

[high sleet]

Nah nah I was wrong hahah. Thanks for correcting me. I have a better understanding now

25% is a huge adjustment. When u do the maths as far as I can tell they are multiplicative instead of additive. So 175% would affect the full 300% boost from T4. Meaning instead of 475% boost its more

[radiant sky]

Would you say it's a little underwhelming since you have to build the powerstations to actually get the landmark Bonus?

[high sleet]

I've been doing a lot of thinking on these very subjects. From what I am learning harvesters are worth like 5 converters 🤣🤣 like they are insane.

Since they are brutally easy to get up efficiency on relatively speaking the 25% is a pretty big boost.

Ultimately this feels like it can be punishing to plots without fuel sites aligned. But extremely powerful on those with good alignment

[high sleet]

For example a crypton gate at level 6 does 60 output base on T4. Boosted to 105 at max aligned efficiency. A 10% boost to 66 and then 150% efficiency would be 99. So u lose 6. Multiply that by about 3 sites and u are gaining 18 extra fuel. It feels underwhelming but given the fuel sites boost nearby converters they should be maxing out easier too

Overall this system probably allows you 40-50 extra fuel if u focus on the one.

[radiant sky]

Hard to focus on 1 fuel because the converter of the Same fuel push them down massive in efficiency if close to each other.
also you actually have to spend an additional 8 squares for additional powerstationi to get your bonus.
imo it should just be added to the basic efficiency.

[high sleet]

Most certainly. I've almost build a doc where u can perfectly calculate outputs.

[radiant sky]

good to hear... mine is shit 😄

[high sleet]

Hahaha ill add you and when I'm happy with it and done content recording maybe I can let u try ut

[blazing ferry]

Awesome to hear, thanks!

[high sleet]

All I want is a mass harvest button 😛 And mass collect passive generation button 😛

[tall bear]

Are we still expecting megacities before the end or private beta ?

[amber atlas]

We can also boost the min, if its a little underwhelming (so for example the minimum efficiency could be pushed from 50 to 60 or 75) this is just a very little boost ... but as you calculated it does add up, so I'm not sure underwhelming is necessarily an accurate reflection of the current state

[amber atlas]

Auto start yes, mass harvest no 😛

[amber atlas]

Part of Open Beta, not part of Alpha

[tall bear]

so at the launch of open beta on mainnet we still won't have megacities ?

[amber atlas]

no

its part of the Open Beta, in scope for launch of Open Beta

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Would people be interested in cosmetic features on Landmarks?

[high sleet]

So itll launch with open beta?

[high sleet]

100%

[amber atlas]

yes

[amber atlas]

yes

[high sleet]

Oh shiet

No one is selling plots near mine 😦

[tall bear]

isn't it a bit risky to launch it without letting us test it for a bit ?

[high sleet]

Yolo

[tall bear]

i know open beta is still beta but since fuel production will already have an impact on price and everything..

[amber atlas]

Open beta is the test ... hence Beta 😉

We haven't really talked about a pre-release environment for Illuvium Zero, although I wouldn't discount it.

But Alpha and Beta are totally separate streams of work.

The Game Design is the same, but the code base is different.

So putting this in Alpha would be direct slow down down on Beta.

[tall bear]

Well everyone is expecting the Open Beta as the launch of Illuvium, so launching megacities with no test prior seems rekless lmao

[amber atlas]

Most games launch this way!

There will be many features in all games that are part of Open beta but not part of the private Beta.

For example all the carefully guarded lore and story elements.

[high sleet]

Lets test the lore

send me dm

[amber atlas]

😉

[tall bear]

hahaha

[high sleet]

I definitely get what the Attack Titan is saying though

[tall bear]

although i didn't pay a massive premium for lore, i did to get a megacity, and i'm now having to manage freaking slow T1 :p

[amber atlas]

But that said, if things are ready some kind of pre Open Beta test could be a possibility. Just a thought.

[high sleet]

but I rather have it in Open Beta and something goes wrong than not have it

willing to take that chance

[tall bear]

définitely

[high sleet]

Plus we shouldnt forget the QA team gotta put it through the ringer

[tall bear]

the whole point of the megacity is to have it easier to build all lands, if we don't get it at launch it becomes kinda pointless

[amber atlas]

Regardless of how many tests we do there are going to be some teething problems.

[high sleet]

No one is releasing random code 😛

[amber atlas]

You do get it at launch. Like I just confirmed multiple times.

It is in the must have feature list for Open Beta.

[high sleet]

That wasn't always the plan from my knowledge, so thats quite interesting. Can we add it to the public roadmap?

[amber atlas]

Its been the plan for nearly a year.

I've said it many it many here, suprised you haven't seen it 🙂

[tall bear]

true but untested, my concern is if we get it untested at launch, something goes wrong (because sh*t happens) and we get our megacities stuck while people are race building xD

[amber atlas]

It wont be untested, it just wont be community tested.

Fuel pool wont be community tested either.

As with many other things in all games.

[tall bear]

can the megacities feature still change between now and release ?

[amber atlas]

I think the publicly discussed aspects of megacities are pretty important. I'm sure people have used them to make purchase decisions. A change would need to go through council/ICCP.

But remember the council can change ANYTHING.

Obviously they are going to act responsibility, I'm just making it clear how the DAO and gov 2.0 works.

[high sleet]

Hahah I flip around, I definitely love the ilvz chat more than the others tho

[tall bear]

so right now the plan is still it allows us to treat 4 (or 9) lands as one, so only need 1 nexus, 1 research lab etc ?

[amber atlas]

yes

I think it exceedingly unlikely that will change

I would fight it with both rationale and temper tantrums

[high sleet]

Its a shame we cant get offers off the ground

The other problem is IMX doesnt allow offers for unlisted assets...

[tall bear]

are the 4 plots merged ? like can we use the border squares ?

[amber atlas]

someone needs to go implement my trustless trade system based on MPC like I explained to chat 😉

[amber atlas]

they act as one playable space

the only slight difference is the PLOT Tier boosts are localised to only the grid squares which are in the original plot

to get the boost the entire structure must be in that plots areas

Landmark boosts apply to whole megacity

[high sleet]

Whats MPC?

[amber atlas]

https://www.alchemy.com/overviews/mpc-wallet

[high sleet]

WHAT!!

Omg now I desperately need a megacity

[amber atlas]

a megacity is a big plot

[high sleet]

Idk how I could even pull that off

[amber atlas]

a really really big plot

[high sleet]

I just figured they would all act separately but have all the bonuses

[radiant sky]

That would be nice 🙃

[high sleet]

Thats actually insane

Fck

[radiant sky]

But it's basically just the spreaded landmark Bonus and slightly more Space to build, because just 1 Nexus, eng. Workshop, quantum Fabrikant needed. There are still no other advantages of the megacity planned to do, right?

[little moon]

Goomo what u doing here?

[amber atlas]

Well also it is effectively instant trade between your plots.

And lots of builders. So you can go down an upgrade path way quicker.

This is actually something that still needs some work, 9 builders is crazy.

[radiant sky]

Well plots would be anyways Next to each other and would almost instantly be traded to i guess.

[amber atlas]

So please don't take it as locked in that you will get 9 builders.

[iron veldt]

Will i need the zero point transducer to mint the bps in zero right now?

[amber atlas]

You can't mint right now, but when minting is released in Alpha it will require ZPT yes.

[radiant sky]

Would be harsh t take 1 away... Thats basically cutting total Building Times

[amber atlas]

Yeah but the balance is against the upgrade path times.

[iron veldt]

Thx Sir, is level 1 transducer enough?

[amber atlas]

There hasn't been a formal official decision, but I think all were in agreement that there's no need to push an upgrade.

[iron veldt]

Thx

[radiant sky]

Mmh i don't understand

[amber atlas]

In any case the default is that you will get one per plot, and thus 9 on a 3x3.

[radiant sky]

I would... Let them hustle for their bp's 😝

[amber atlas]

With 9 builders you can build things simultanesouly to unlock more of the tech tree faster.

As opposed to 9 separate plots which would all be going through the same path together.

[radiant sky]

Ah lol... Thought you talking about paths 😂

[amber atlas]

In any case I think its another reasonable boost for a megacity... but I have my eye on it. 👀

[radiant sky]

Well taking x builders away would be a massiv disadvantage compared to a slight advantage

[amber atlas]

Its not becasue of the boost to upgrade speed, but its hard to do it in a way that makes sense. So it will probably stick.

Short answer is I don't know. Hopefully Dmitriy comes up with some good way to balance it 😉

[radiant sky]

If you here anyways... Is it a bug to have the +25% efficiency of landmarks to push with powerstations and not automatically have it, or is it intended?

[tall bear]

so a 2x2 megacity would have 4 builders right ?

[amber atlas]

Landmarks currently give 10% boost and increase the max efficiency to 175%. They are separate effects. Not a bug.

Again this isn't locked in, but currently yes.

[radiant sky]

There is no 10% boost on my fuel landmark

[amber atlas]

So your 'bare' extractors aren't starting at 110% ?

Or I should say at 10% more than default. I can't actually remember if we start Extractors at 100 or 80 any more... been a while.

[radiant sky]

10% efficiency?

[radiant sky]

Same

[amber atlas]

one sec let me check

[radiant sky]

I think they Start a 100

[amber atlas]

If they do, then a matched Extractor (e.g. Solon if you have Fallen Star) should start at 110 instead.

If that's not happening that is indeed a bug.

[radiant sky]

Ooh... So the 10% boost is on efficiency, not output

[amber atlas]

Yes it increases the max efficiency and gives a boost to the 'default' efficiency.

[radiant sky]

I see

Underwhelming 😂

But yea, then it works as intended.

[amber atlas]

It is supposed to be a small 'flavour' boost

but thats why I was talking about cosmetics

we could also do some fun stuff with being able to interact with or boost up how the landmark looks

[wispy prism]

I love this idea. Boosting and changing the way landmarks look would be awesome sauce. As well as being able to make parks or different path types.

😁

[radiant sky]

Yea... But if i remember right, it's 1 more powerstations maybe 2 depending on Layout to actually get that +25% efficiency. Thats 4-8 squares needed to even Profit from a landmark Bonus.

[amber atlas]

Yeah path types is a definite want to have feature

Dmitriy is redesigning paths to make them more fun and meaningful

hopefully he includes ideas for different types as well

(will prod him)

[wispy prism]

So cool 😎

[amber atlas]

I sent him a screenshot of this chat.

[amber atlas]

Yeah I get you, maybe it could do with a small buff, maybe that 10% could be 20% or 25%

[wispy prism]

Naw, you are the best.

I don't know about anyone else yet the excitement vibes are building big time.
We are sooooo clooooseeee.
Seeing all the work everyone has done.
Omg
It's going to be insane.

[radiant sky]

I would anyways Like to have powerstations reworked. Maybe Make it possible to build a powergrid which can boost up with path connected Buildings in efficiency.
I have Like 97 or so powerstations in my t4 thats more than half of total amount of Buildings and i'm not even on Max efficiency everywhere. And it's a mixed plot... If i go full fuel, it would have even more... Like +20 ISH i guess.

[lapis gulch]

At least maybe allow upgrading power stations. Even if the upgrade costs a building slot.

[amber atlas]

Its on the list of features to be tweaked.

Upgrades are the most likely change. Grant wanted to make powerlines ... but its too complex for short term at least.

[lapis gulch]

It makes sense, unless the road themselves act up as the grid. But at that point combining roads and powerplants will be brainless. Now you have to make decisions some times on this. Do you get a greater effeciency or slower times.

[worthy panther]

Hello, did he include idea of new gameplay?
It would be a great news!!!!

Gameplay with interaction with other plots or PNJ attack or population (drone) gestion...somethings like that!

[amber atlas]

Thats not the focus for Open Beta

Post Launch we can open things up to all kinds of possibilities

But the launch focus is on finishing some things we didn't finish and making some tweaks to things that need some tweaks

[worthy panther]

😥
Not a good news...very sad, in fact.

[amber atlas]

It shouldn't be news, it has been the plan for a very very long time

I think most people would rather we get the product out connected to the blockchain generating real fuel, over developing wild ideas for what might come next

fun to talk about, and I'm happy to share wild ideas, but thats not what the dev team will be working on

[iron veldt]

Yeah, i also wanted some fuel, so i got another 2x t2 to really enjoy illuvium with my girlfriend 🙂 - do you think 2xt1 and 2xt2 is enough to play the game "good" with 2 persons?

• or should i better get some more?

[hearty cradle]

saw the fuel proposal

the proposal makes land = staking with extra effort

good for gamers, but GG landowner

now i see why land keep dipping

[lapis gulch]

I also think it went a bit in the wrong direction. Land is owned by investors. They don't want to play a game to make money if they can just make money.
At best they'll 'hire' and underpaid person in 3rd world country to do their work.

And gamers don't want to play games with entry cost of at least a few hundred dollars.

[mortal smelt]

what proposal?

[lapis gulch]

#1138413251277901895 #1138408864421777438

There will be a town hall about it.

https://discord.com/events/760344898200666112/1136620072455110708

[mortal smelt]

look if my t-2 doesn't generate enough fuel to play at tier 3 OW we will have issues

I purchased the land to be able to come full circle with the gaming aspect, what is going to be the real cost of OW runs?

We should have started working on Fuel proposals WAY before being this close to Open Beta. imo

If you are going to forgo rails then give land owners a bigger piece of the pie if we are going to change things up

[lapis gulch]

We're still in discussions. If you can join the town hall you'll have the chance to raise your concerns.

[mortal smelt]

its at 5:30am i don't think i'll be able to make it so i'll make some points here

[lapis gulch]

Isn't it like -3 hours from now?

That would make it 8am your time now?

[mortal smelt]

im seeing the schedule as Thursday 5:30am or am i wrong?

If it is today most definately I can make it

[lapis gulch]

It's thursday... I was trying to make a comparisson. Timezones are hard.

[mortal smelt]

The issue at hand is that there are NO projects to compare to Illuvium zero ecosystem, i wish we could have solved this by play testing with the Alpha in public.

[hearty cradle]

do i need staked ilv to comment there?

[mortal smelt]

have you tried?

[lapis gulch]

Not entirely sure. Seating asked the same thing #💬〕general message and got in after.

[hearty cradle]

fixing fuel price to usd is already a downgrade to land. but im okay with that because it will be good for gamers.
now another downgrade.
so when investors buy an asset in ILV, they dnt know what they are buying because everything can be changed by an IIP

take care of your investors, and they will take care of you

im so glad i sold my plot last year

GGWp

[hoary forge]

It's sad to see that ILV Zero is being pushed more and more into the background. 😔

[true sequoia]

@radiant sky thoughts on fuel proposals? Voldemort's I find least attractive.

[celest wagon]

I agree with you... I hope who will not listen to vetemort

[celest wagon]

The worst scénario !!

[true sequoia]

well at least we have those valuable BPs 🤣

[celest wagon]

Kieran said the lands = good investment

Now that the prices of the lands have been divided by 2, I can no longer sell too much loss

[true sequoia]

well if the overworld etc. works out, eventually land could still work out....we'll see......

[hearty cradle]

it will be a shame if the DAO sell skins.
oh wait thats happening too

[fair temple]

yes you need either ILV staker or ILV holder to be able to partake in the discussion there. So get that 1 ILV and you will be able to join in on the fun! 🙂
Some would say it's not a bad time to DCA... idk about that myself though XD

[hearty cradle]

@bitter glade wasnt the original idea of IZ is to get involved the economics fuel? get in the volatility of fuel demand and supply?
sort of like being a small fuel producing country?

wasn't that the fun of IZ?

[hearty cradle]

i do have ILV, but i was reluctant to verify, i didnt bring my laptop with me

[devout panther]

What are the main differences for a landowner if the new proposal is accepted?