🎮〕illuvium-zero

[timber glacier]

Think this is the one with most so far
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[stone path]

Very nice

[timber glacier]

I got 3 labs running on my 1st biodata now, so hoping to see one tomorrow

[radiant sky]

The odds are against ya 😜

[timber glacier]

Considering I'm 1/14 on scans, I'm not really expecting much

[main crag]

Only same 5 biodata as last season?

[timber glacier]

yup

@radiant sky How's your luck so far?

[radiant sky]

Bad 😂

But it can just get better then, right 🙃

[timber glacier]

Yup, only one way to go and it's up

[radiant sky]

Started Building more Scanners to get my 2nd biodata faster

Have 3 facts and 3 BP, so my labs running out of work soon 😵

[timber glacier]

Researchers might get a day off or two

[radiant sky]

Yea... But they don't deserve it.

My Land is ruled with an iron hand.
They have to deliver great work to get some benefits

[timber glacier]

Time to send them out in the wild with portable scanners

[rancid iris]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-knightrider-kitt-1980-gif-23544865

[radiant sky]

Absolutely!
But i bet they die like flies when these weaklings are out in the wild

[desert pilot]

so now what?

materials lab and research?

[timber glacier]

yup

and gz

[willow otter]

I think its some sort of bug cuz it doesnt even show in my acticities and its still airdroping

Basicly i cant cancel it

[timber glacier]

you're in the build list though, not the activities list

[willow otter]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-good-bye-bye-no-gif-5173989

[wispy fern]

so do these plants offer nothing more than scrapping them for credits?

[timber glacier]

currently, no

[radiant sky]

As i said, can just get better... Just got my 2nd biodata 🍾

[dry mango]

[radiant sky]

I always felt Like i just have to swear a lot while playing to get better dropps...

[bitter glade]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-rabbit-cute-gif-15676652

[empty path]

I believe he is trying to say land doesn't have enough value compared to stakers.

[bitter glade]

My confusion is with the passive aggression. But it's all good.

[empty path]

Probably language barrier, I get that a lot too 😉

[tropic fossil]

Can anyone play Illuvium zero?

[low hornet]

morning guys

[timber glacier]

Currently, only people who own land can play.
However, anyone can buy land on the Illuvidex Marketplace
See link in #🔗〕helpful-links

[inland shore]

Is scanner efficiency effective during scanning or only once the timer has finished and you collect?

[radiant sky]

#420

[twin heath]

I just had my land desync between my mobile and PC - is this a common issue?

[lyric lodge]

How do we see the passive generated fuel timeframe without clicking on say the cryoton collider ?

[sweet carbon]

is there a reason to keep any of the plants on your land? or do we just clear it and get the coin to speed up time?

[timber glacier]

only matters when you click to collect

[lyric lodge]

I think on future will be morphapods

[lyric lodge]

Yes but how do we know when it's ready without clicking on it ...cause then if just means checking all the time

[sweet carbon]

i see, so for now, just clear it and get the speed token. thanks. any particular reason not to spend those speed tokens now? Or will that have a bigger say in the future when we can use it for other stuff

[timber glacier]

we currently can't see the passive timer at all

[lyric lodge]

Why not ? Will that change ?

[timber glacier]

yes, it's a common issue but you should report it anyway #❓❓〕support

[lyric lodge]

Use them wisely as time goes on it gets more expensive

[sweet carbon]

yea, i appreciate that. usually i only spend it if i can max out the timer

[timber glacier]

Hopefully they'll add that at some point

[lyric lodge]

Oh so everyone has this issue ?

Ok I see

[inland shore]

ah... well that's a flawed concept

[timber glacier]

Maybe not everyone, but it's asked about a lot
It's recommended that you make sure to log out of the plot before switching devices

[lyric lodge]

They should also make the roads look they are imbedded in the ground it looks pasted in top and pleaseeee remove the screen that makes us click every time we pump or mine really I think we know what is happening and also the thing that comes up once we level up

[lyric lodge]

So you have same issue

[inland shore]

Yeah it's a scanner.... should matter while scanning. Defie's logic

[radiant sky]

Haven't had the issue yet, and switching a lot.
Make sure you Log out properly before switching between different devices

[timber glacier]

Unless you're spending a day on charging it for a single scan burst

[lyric lodge]

Ok so log out of both and log in again ?

[radiant sky]

O.o you playing on 2 devices at the same time?

[lyric lodge]

Yes

[lyric lodge]

So it goes up to how much ? What's highest level ?

[radiant sky]

Didn't even know thats possible. But i guess don't do that AT all to avoid it... Play in 1 devices, and when you wana play in the other device, logout properly first before you login in the other device

[lyric lodge]

Let's see

[radiant sky]

Idk if it has a Limit.

[timber glacier]

Apparently 2900, then you get a bug that resets it to 100

[radiant sky]

For real?

[timber glacier]

it's in the patch notes, so I guess so

[lyric lodge]

But you can only build up each building to level 10 right ?

[timber glacier]

different levels for different types of buildings

[radiant sky]

Nice, so i can still get my lvl 69 Screenshot 🙃

Aww no... Nvm

[timber glacier]

Well, there's the Reset button...

[lyric lodge]

So you can see your passive fuel time under product right ?

[versed warren]

Anyone have a t1 close or producing bps yet? I feel like i might have took the wrong approach

[timber glacier]

yes, just started my first research action today (others have been at it for a few days more)

[lyric lodge]

How on a t1 ? What level are you at ?

[lyric lodge]

But how on a T1 ? Unless you don't sleep ?

[versed warren]

Damn

[lyric lodge]

Or have someone else playinf fur you while you sleep lol

[timber glacier]

I had a very well planned schedule for the first 6 days

[versed warren]

Can I see this schedule

[lyric lodge]

Yes but I have been playing non stop in the day on 2 X T2 and only at 150 level ....how Is that possible

[timber glacier]

it's a bit lengthy, and I should probably clean it up so it makes sense if I'm to show it

[lyric lodge]

Please do share lol

[timber glacier]

I can summarize though

[lyric lodge]

Sure

[versed warren]

What buildings did you focus on tho? Ive been going hard on my hyperion extractor and hydrogen pump, I get 6 every 17hrs but the others are like 2 every 2 days

[lyric lodge]

Can you see your passive generated fuel timescales under the production tab ?

[timber glacier]

Day 1: (pretty much the same as for everyone else)
Get Nexus to lv4, build your fuel mine, and start producing fuel. Then spend the rest of the day collecting resources.
Day 2: Harvest your fuel (x2 with 150% efficiency), Upgrade to Nexus V, then build 17 Fuel Converters (that's all you can fit with the build limit), convert the spare fuel to something else.

[timber glacier]

no, you can't see it anywhere

[lyric lodge]

Ah that's an epic failure not to include it in the update right ...wonder why they did not do it

[timber glacier]

Day 3: Pretty much nothing to do except collect resources.
Day 4: Passive fuel income (again x2 with 150% efficiency if you can time it properly) so I had 34 fuel at this point, then focused on raising Nexus to lv7, Resource extractors to lv6, then get Scanners

[lyric lodge]

But you need loads of storage then as well

[timber glacier]

Yes, first day I mostly built storage, which I sold while building the Fuel Converters

[versed warren]

Can you send a ss of yr base?

[timber glacier]

had something like 300k capacity day 1, then down to 50-100k on days 2-3

then back up after I got Nexus leveled up

[lyric lodge]

I see my capicity for storage is about 1 million each I think this will help a lot later when scanning

[lyric lodge]

Ah I guess should have built more passive generators

[versed warren]

Same

[timber glacier]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message
That's from yesterday (Not much has changed)

Fuel is the biggest issue early on for T1s

[versed warren]

So it doesn't matter they are at like 60% you still get 2 every 48hrs? From each

[timber glacier]

no, you have to have them at 150% the moment they give their passive income to get 2

[lyric lodge]

But how do you stop them from affecting each other ?

[lyric lodge]

Don't paths around them help ?

[timber glacier]

you just move them away from the other ones before their passive is about to tick

[versed warren]

Huh? But you have them all beside eachother, you last minute move and put power stations?

[timber glacier]

not for passive gain

[timber glacier]

yes

[lyric lodge]

Yes but they will only produce less or slower if at 50 percent right

[timber glacier]

it only works if you know exactly when each building was built though

since the passive timer can't be seen

[lyric lodge]

Damn I took the wrong approach lol but I guesse we can learn haha

[timber glacier]

they will produce less, time isn't affected by efficiency

[lapis gulch]

Nice strategy @timber glacier and thank you for sharing. I fail to understand why do you need this much fuel. You don't need it for scanning and research. It's just to fast upgrade other buildings? At that point you don't need the fuel, right? If we're talking about season 1 only.

[versed warren]

Its a great strategy, my nexus is only lvl 5

[timber glacier]

It's 16 Crypton for getting Nexus VII, 3 Solon for Workshop VI, 7 of each fuel for resource extractors VI, then just enough to build scanners (3 crypton +2 hyperion each, and I built 7 of those) and labs (5 hyperion each)

And yes, it's just to get everything up fast, and it'll only work this season. There's a lot of changes coming to how these buildings work so it won't be possible to do this in beta (at least not exactly like this)

[solid fox]

Hi guys , Can I play with one land on both PC and Mobile ? I mean for times I'm not home can I play with a mobile on same land ?

[lapis gulch]

Yes. Just not at the same time on both devices.

[timber glacier]

Just make sure to log out of the plot before switching devices, or there's a risk that you could lose progress.

[solid fox]

thanks I got but do I need to log out or some thing before play with other one ?

[solid fox]

it looks risky 😦

[timber glacier]

And since I missed the last part... Yes, I don't really need fuel at this point.

[spare spire]

Besides market being reworked, what else do we know is changing Vana? 🙂

[timber glacier]

Efficiency calculations for passive fuels
In the future the efficiency will directly affect the time between each passive tick, and not the amount. (So 150% for a 48h passive would be 32h)
Also efficiency for conversions and extractions will not round fractions (Instead a 133% on a lv1 extractor would give 1 fuel 67% of the time and 2 fuel 33% of the time)

so just those changes kinda breaks my whole strategy...

[versed warren]

You have me rearrange my whole base... lol

[timber glacier]

You're welcome, or sorry. Whichever you feel is more appropriate. 😉

[lyric lodge]

How much does each scan cost ?

Thanks 🙏

[versed warren]

So one last clarification, so I can have each site at 60% and then before I collect place enough power to get 150% ? Or will it stay the same amount when I collect

[lyric lodge]

Oh does each building go up to 10 ?

[timber glacier]

it'll be 1 if the efficiency is anything lower than 150%, but 2 if it's 150%
It doesn't matter what they're at in the 47h prior to the passive happening

[vivid cipher]

It's simply based on the roadmap. Seems accurate.

[timber glacier]

Nexus, Workshop and element-related buildings go up to 9
Fuel-related buildings go up to 6
Scanner/Lab to 5
Market to 2
Power Station and Databank only have 1 level

[agile sigil]

Can i blueprints from scanner or is it just the lab from biodata and facits?

[lyric lodge]

Only a month tj get blueprints?

[timber glacier]

Scanner gives Biodata
Lab needs Biodata to make Blueprints (and Facts)

[timber glacier]

more like 4-6 (at least)

[agile sigil]

Higher upgrade of lab give higher % of getting a blueprint?

[timber glacier]

No, higher level gives a chance to find higher Tier prints (but there's only Tier 1 in this alpha)
so no reason to upgrade those

[lyric lodge]

4 to 6 months ?

[timber glacier]

yes

[lyric lodge]

4 to 6 months ? How much does each BP scan attempt cost

[versed warren]

How do I get it to 150 without having the extractor? How many power stations?

[vivid cipher]

I had said the end would be October to December. Based on the roadmap.

[lyric lodge]

Ah lettss goooo

[timber glacier]

ah, sry missed that one
175k Carbon and 85k Hydrogen per scan
175k Silicon and 85k Hydrogen per lab research attempt

[lyric lodge]

No worries thanks for all your help

[timber glacier]

You're welcome

[versed warren]

Like this @timber glacier

[timber glacier]

Looks good 👍

Yes, without the extractor you need 9 power stations

[agile sigil]

So when i have 5 biodata i can remove scanner and replace with labs then

[timber glacier]

yes

[versed warren]

When I convert, if I get it to 150% does that give me 2 instead of 1?

And can I do it last minute like this

[timber glacier]

Yes

[lusty verge]

good evening.

what can I do to make this scanner 150%?

[timber glacier]

100% is max for scanners

[lusty verge]

is the scanner should be far from "ALL" structures?

even powerstation?

[spare spire]

There's absolutely no way I can maintain my plot running without abusing the market lmao Gonna have to plan differently my upgrades/storages hehe

[versed warren]

I think, because it needs room to scan for the illuials

[timber glacier]

Yes, it gets negatively affected by all buildings (and plants)

[lusty verge]

thanks for clarifiying

my first scan hope it is successful 😄

[versed warren]

@timber glacier do you have a Twitter

[timber glacier]

Good luck!

[timber glacier]

I don't, no

[lyric lodge]

So once you got all you'd scanners setup then you can delete your fuel generators like anti Solan ect ?

[timber glacier]

sure, unless you want to build more stuff just for fun while you're waiting on finding all the blueprints

just don't forget the Labs so you can research (scanners aren't enough)

[lyric lodge]

I want BP thanks like everyone else , haha

[lyric lodge]

Yeah when labs and scanners are setup but that's all you need right

[timber glacier]

yup

well, you need resources to run them

but I assume you have a decent level on those if you're building scanners and labs so...

[maiden wasp]

Finally 3 scanner on each plot...

[timber glacier]

How many plots?

[gilded drift]

Hey, is it worth upgrading scanners?

[timber glacier]

No, scanner upgrades would only let you find higher tier Illuvials (and those aren't in the game yet)

[gilded drift]

What about material lab?

[timber glacier]

same thing there

[gilded drift]

thx

[lyric lodge]

Working on two tier 2s

[oak ruin]

I still don't understand why we are still getting hybrid/physical/energy blueprints of the armor we craft os only cosmetic. are there 3 cosmetics for Atlas, for example?

[knotty mango]

How many Illuviouls can be found in each area?

[radiant sky]

Nope they are for the different Ranger suits

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[dry mango]

5 biodata, 3 blueprints each (15 total)

[knotty mango]

Can I scan and find all illuvials in one area?

From 1 plot

[radiant sky]

Yes

[knotty mango]

Awesome thanks!

[gleaming sigil]

What is the purpose of the material lab?

[dry mango]

Provides the requisite facilities to research Illuvial Biodata, Blueprints

[gleaming sigil]

And that means ?

I need the scanner to do that , so la lab will increase chances or something ??

[knotty mango]

Does upgrading marketplace help get better deals or what?

[spare spire]

scanner gets the biodata for the illuvial (this is the first step) then in the Materials lab you will research that biodata trying to find the blueprint (second step)

[empty path]

Level 2 you can trade fuel

[maiden wasp]

2 plots, both teir 2s

[gleaming sigil]

Adding more labs will help me in some way or just one is enough? also the lab % will affect the blueprint prob?

[timber glacier]

nice

[spare spire]

More labs will give you more attempts per day. Theoretically, the more you add the sooner you will get all blueprints. I'm at 8 labs in a T3 plot, what probably is overkill since we have plenty of time in the season, but since I have the resources, why not haha
yeah, lab efficiency will be multiplied by the success rate of 5%, so you want to have that at 150% 🙂

[gleaming sigil]

Thanks man, all clear now

[maiden wasp]

Might as well get it done imo, as many labs as possible is best

[spare spire]

That's my thought as well 🙂

[maiden wasp]

Still need labs on my plots but upgrading fuel sites and converters have been a priority of mine

[knotty mango]

How many scanner do you have?

[thorny crater]

Getting my scanner today. Took 5 days but I think I could get it in 4 for my t2

[spare spire]

4

[maiden wasp]

That's the nice thing about T3 and up, more room for scanners

[radiant sky]

Uumm... I feel totally the other Way, the higher the Tier the less room for Scanners.

[undone phoenix]

Do you mean less room?

[maiden wasp]

Had it backwards in my mind

4 scanners is impressive None the less

[undone phoenix]

It should do the trick 😄

[maiden wasp]

Work fog killing me 🤣

[radiant sky]

Building my 10. Scanner... But low efficiency 😔

[lyric lodge]

So we need scanner .. material lab and data bank ? How many of each ....one for each lab ?

[spare spire]

I deliberately chose a plot where resources were more concentrated towards the center for that purpose. Basically I can fit 3 100% scanners on the top left corner and 1 more at the bottom right without disrrupting production.

[lyric lodge]

I think lands are all same size

[deep iris]

Fit in 3 scanners in 3 of the corners but not a ton of space left

[radiant sky]

Yea 3x100% is also possible in my plot. But thats pretty much Max.

Might get a 4. If i put Nexus and Silos in the center...

[deep iris]

Ah, so you concentrate as many scanners as possible into one corner instead of taking 2-3 corners?

[radiant sky]

Took 3 corners, but 1 is spammed

[crystal wave]

Is Data Bank worth building does it effect the scanning?

[spare spire]

That may be more than enough for beta as well. I guess at some point getting the scans/bp quicker will matter... We would want to generate BP scarcity, right? So either we would have short seasons, so gotta get the BP quick, or maybe there will be a decrease in likelihood of finding a BP as more are found

[radiant sky]

Gonna try later to put Nexus etc. In center. Really think there's enough Space for another 100%

[radiant sky]

I guess so, but wana have the hustle done 😂
Also playing arround to See what fits and what not for later i Like. I guess my t4 is going to produce fuel anyways when open Beta, probably don't build any Scanner on there

[spare spire]

T4 yum!

[timber glacier]

Data Bank boosts Lab efficiency by up to 30%, that's all. No effect on scanning.

[deep iris]

Is it really that important to maximize scanners or is it more important to have as many Materials Labs as possible?

Since once we have the 5 x biodata, it's all about maximizing research

[spare spire]

Scanners just play the part of finding you the biodata. For now there are only 5 out there so probably not needed to be super optimal. Material labs will need to run more times to get the 15 BP for sure. So I guess just enough scanners to get you the biodata relativelly quickly

[radiant sky]

Idk, had 4 Scanners and 6 labs before, and went almost out of work with the labs, because 2nd biodata wouldn't drop but i already had 3 bp's and 3 facts of the first biodata.

[deep iris]

Yeah that's what I was thinking. I have biodata for 3 of the 5 and after the last two, the scanners aren't really doing anything

[thorny crater]

idk what any of these means lol

[deep iris]

Although at this point I'm trying to figure out the most efficient layout for the actual Beta

Will probably need a consult session with a land architect like Vana haha

[radiant sky]

Aww really... My english so Bad? 😅 What exactly is unclear

[thorny crater]

No i just do not have a scanner labs yet lol

[thorny crater]

lolz

say less

[radiant sky]

Looks Like you will build them soon 🦾

[deep iris]

This is a good question for the Open Beta. I think it comes down to how valuable will the blueprints be and that will dictate if people go all out on fuel (w/ maybe 1-2 scanners if they fit) or if they will fit as many scanners as possible at the expense of more fuel. Like I'm sure some people have fit every spare inch of space with fuel converters (quantity at the expense of efficiency)

[thorny crater]

today matter of fact. just need teh 1.1 mill water

just the scanner though labs will take a few more days

can wait for auto fill to be put in for extractors. teh 3 clicks is a lot

[limber cipher]

guys what is the effect of efficiency on scanner in beta?

[thorny crater]

get 100%

thats all i know lol

[gleaming sigil]

Question about paths, they just help with the building construction times or it also helps with extracting , scanning , converting times ?

[reef jasper]

construction times only as of now

[dry mango]

?zero-path

[lethal wyvern]

How do paths affect my land in Illuvium Zero?

In Illuvium Zero, paths are an important aspect of your land optimization. When placed next to buildings, paths can increase the speed of activities such as construction, extraction, conversion, and scanning. It is important to note that the connectivity of paths is not a factor in their effectiveness - a completely surrounded building is the most optimal setup for maximum efficiency.

Community Made Infographic

[thorny crater]

craaaaaaaaaaaaaaap use a hyperon to upgrad a hydro convertor and now ownt be able to get scanner till tomorrow -_-

[gleaming sigil]

It's seems like it helps all

[reef jasper]

yes, sorry

[boreal mantle]

I'm experiencing a bug in Illuvium Zero. Where can I post the issue?

[spare spire]

https://discordapp.com/channels/760344898200666112/857471213513605140/1113780847435329606

It's not jumping to the right message for me... not sure why. Here is the link to report: http://link.illuvium.io/bug.

?zero-bug

[lethal wyvern]

How to report a Bug?

Illuvium: Zero does not have an in-game reporting system

If you encounter any issues while playing Illuvium: Zero, we encourage you to submit a request through our online support portal: http://link.illuvium.io/bug. This is the best way to report bugs, as it allows us to track and address issues more efficiently.

[spare spire]

There you go 🙂

[boreal mantle]

ty 🙂

[slim topaz]

i'm starting to believe that T1's are far superior to T4s for scanning/research. at some point (i'm not there yet), i assume resources from converters are sufficient to keep everything going and you have way more space in T1's. in my T4, i have tons of resources and no open spaces for scanners. my T1's aren't far enough along to really test, but i'm guessing if you have like T7 converters you can sustain scanning and research operations in T1... guess i should actually do some math

[dark spoke]

I just Started Season 1.. damm 1 week later

[spare spire]

You may want to also consider the tiers of the illuviuals you want to find though. Upgrading the singularity scanner costs a lot of fuel, so in a T1 will take a long time to get to lvl 5 scanners/material labs. I don't remember how the scanning costs scale by tier, but the upgrade costs is something like 100 crypton and 50 hyperion for 4 -> 5 upgrad

[slim topaz]

yeah good point. i'm not thinking long term enough 😛

[dark spoke]

Hope I still can get some Blueprints been late

[spare spire]

I'm assuming there will be some sort of bonding curve for blueprints, similar to capturing illuviuals in overworld (as in, the more is found of a kind, harder it gets to find another), so scanning/researching as early as possible would be an advantage

[lost walrus]

Tier 1 is going really slow......

[spare spire]

This is just me speculating though. I haven't heard this from the team! And does not apply for alpha. We should all have plenty of time to find the 15 BPs now

[zinc cloak]

I may be biased, as I’m a T1 pleb, but as a gamer I do worry that the game isn’t balanced well around T1.

If the majority of users, which will be T1 find that costs are too much, or prohibitive, they may simply give up, and if too many people just stop, it becomes hard to maintain an ecosystem.

Seeing such huge bonuses for additional tiers is very much unlike games I’m accustomed too.

Of course it’s hard to know how viable any of this will be, until we start seeing actual financial returns out of this all!

It could be that it is balanced well at the T1 base and just gets better as you go higher

Prior to the converter nerfs, it felt pretty good, now I’m not so sure yet, I’ll need more upgrades!

[spare spire]

On the flipside, part of a good balanced game needs to make higher tier beneficial though. End game a T1 should get to a pretty close state then a T3 but in a T1 you should take longer to get there, otherwise what's the point of a higher tier

[zinc cloak]

Very good points, again my worry is that these values were made to please an NFT crowd, after all it had to convince people to pay 1+ ETH, which is absurd from a traditional game perspective.

In a normal game you’d expect bonuses like 25% maybe even 50-75%, but multiple ‘X’ bonuses is wild. Hopefully NFT value bonus = game balance.

As a lifelong gamer, I’m not convinced, but the team has some smart people working on it, so I’m excited to see

Basically it’s all just speculation 😂

[long grove]

Guys is the market working right now for creating orders? cause ive created multiple of them but
not a single one has been accepted, and ive used strategies like giving 10% discount and so on....

[slim topaz]

I'm guessing it'll be several more days before the really hardcore players' T1 s get "set up", but even if it takes another week or so, it only puts T1's a week or two behind T4's, at least in terms of scanning. Certainly vis a vis resource production there's no comparison, but that's why the T4's cost like 40x T4. But, again, I think it'll take a few weeks to see how it all shakes out

Getting my T1's to Nexus7 is the real grind. the building cap and storage requirements are killer. but I'm hoping once i get to Nexus7 the T1's will really be able to take off

[zinc cloak]

Yeah, right now, I’m feeling the impact of the converter nerf, building up the fuel to get the plus 50 building nexus then I’ll be off to the races!

[long grove]

True, im a T1 and T2 owner, i know the capabilities of my lands therefore i started working first on my T1s cause it takes more time but I do agree that higher tiers should reflect a benefit and i love how balanced is right now. T1s takes longer but is not impossible and i think they are even better for BP as you wont be crowding the map with convertors and extractors

[slim topaz]

but once you get to T4 Converters, they're far superior to the nodes themselves. honestly, the way converters work, the types of nodes are ultimately a bit meaningless. I personally think that's a bad design choice b/c it takes away a dimension of land "value" and "strategy" - at this point, the region and location of nodes seems much more important that the types of resource nodes

converters essentially make all nodes the same

[zinc cloak]

No, it needs to be that way or you disenfranchise the vast majority of your players. You have to ensure the largest group of players have success or fun, for zero that means T1s. If you gate progress behind multi thousand dollar paywalls, you’re going to fail.

Web3 has to compete with traditional games, even in the play and earn aspect.

I just made 200 bucks today selling dinos in ark survival evolved, a game I’ve owned for many years and have a grand total of 150 bucks paid into it, for DLC. Realistically this will have a better ROI than Illuvium 😂

[slim topaz]

I think there's got to be some balance between making converters do their job but also give nodes a bigger meaning/value. at the very least, the cost of upgrading nodes and converters seems like it should be the same. but just my thought. I'm no game designer.

[radiant sky]

I think you do actually think longterm. IZ is, if the ip can survive and get a sustainable playerbase, here for around 20 years +...
People are Way too focused in the first 6 months. After 12 months probably all plots are maxed out, soon there will be Set 2 with new bp's and there is no point anymore in whining about not getting the first bp. Then all t1 are cheering for having a Way better Chance finding bp.
Starting prices difference AT the durch auction was 40x between t1 and t4. So i think 40 fully built t1 will, with the balance atm, be Way more worth than 1 t4 plot

[zinc cloak]

If anything converters are probably “fine” and it’s nodes that are weak

[slim topaz]

yeah I'm starting to think 40 T1 >>>> 1 T4

at least unless you have a megacity. thtne i think the T4 + 3 T1's would totally rock

[radiant sky]

Not sure about that, with the Info provided about mc atm, they won't be super beneficial after the build up phase

[slim topaz]

if converters are fine and nodes are weak, isn't that the same as nodes are fine and converters are OP. i mean, what's the difference? It all a question of how long the developers want it to take players to get certain objectives. but nodes/converters ratio is the specific balance

but i absolutely agree that you can't discourage starting players

there has to be a good initial ramp up for sure

[zinc cloak]

A 40 to one value prop is absurd though.

I’d argue that Illuvium’s pricing structure was bad way before I’d argue that’s fine.

If this IP ever wants a shot at traditional gamers,it will have to be approachable to an audience that hesitates before buying a 60 dollar triple A game

[slim topaz]

completely agree

this has to be a great game, not a good crypto game

[radiant sky]

T0 are for gamers, they are f2p... T1-T5 is for Investor audience.

[slim topaz]

i suppose Zero, ultimately, might not really be for people those who want to dabble in illuvium? maybe that's more arena/overland...

[zinc cloak]

Lol, that’s a punt. Zero doesn’t attract traditional gamers. What does it have here they would want, that’s the issue? How would playing zero interest them when there are many city building games, there isn’t even a battle aspect to it, they would go for clash of clans first

[radiant sky]

It's not Like that is the finished state... Pvp will be added, it's just not done for Alpha Version.
Atm the focus is to build a sustainable economy across the whole ip. Zero playes an important role in that economy, so give the time to do that properly before implementing pvp aspects.

[vestal raft]

Try to increase the “offer expire time” to 1+ day… I wasn’t getting any accepted either, until I tried to increase the time, and I just got a couple of offers accepted today…. Not sure what experience others have with this 😊

[zinc cloak]

Yeah, it’s hard to do anything more than speculate until we see more pieces fit together!

[vague tide]

Can someone explain what importance of the data bank, I see it having the same effect as a power station

[slim topaz]

none in alpha

[long grove]

thnanks bud! I'll give it a try

[spare spire]

20% discount guarantees immediate acceptance in my experience.

[thorny crater]

does the convert have a time for when a hyperion etc will be passively made. like how much time is left?

[slim topaz]

nope.

[pseudo elm]

i must have missed it. did the path bonuses go away?

[dry mango]

nop, there was no change in the path bonuses

[pseudo elm]

hmm. didn't they decrease upgrade time?

or was it a different time decrease?

[dry mango]

?zero-path

[lethal wyvern]

How do paths affect my land in Illuvium Zero?

In Illuvium Zero, paths are an important aspect of your land optimization. When placed next to buildings, paths can increase the speed of activities such as construction, extraction, conversion, and scanning. It is important to note that the connectivity of paths is not a factor in their effectiveness - a completely surrounded building is the most optimal setup for maximum efficiency.

Community Made Infographic

[pseudo elm]

ah. that's what it was thanks

been a minute since i played

[oak ruin]

"But you will forge suits and add them to your collection and use them in games. And if you want to skin the suit so that it looks unique, that's where blueprints come in."
Like he said: blueprints are cosmetic only, I know that. These 3 blueprints for the same T1 illuvial we are getting are different visuals? Because there is no relation to cosmetic skin and the type of ranger suit you are equipped with

[coarse leaf]

From what I understand, upgrading the scanner will get higher tier illuvials and upgrading research lab will get higher tier blueprint? Is that correct?

How many blueprint can you get from each illuvial currently?

And are there multiple illuvials you can get from scanner within the same tier or there's only 1 illuvial per tier?

[dry mango]

5 biodata, 3 blueprints each (15 blueprints max per land)

[timber glacier]

Yeah, plenty of time to get them

[timber glacier]

there's only tier 1 illuvials at the moment

[harsh acorn]

I think I'm at a good stopping point for the day.

[dry mango]

nice

[harsh acorn]

I can't wait for level 420 hopefully its a trip

First land owner to 420 should get a Krunk Blueprint

[radiant sky]

I guess it's the Same visual, but for 3 different types of armor

Better said "armour" not armor...

[rancid iris]

https://tenor.com/view/smoking-the-reefer-gif-25337482

[coarse leaf]

The 5 bio data are they all obtainable with lvl 1 scanner or does it need higher lvl scanner to get the subsequent biodata?

[radiant sky]

Lvl1 is enough

[dry mango]

all obtainable with lvl 1

[coarse leaf]

Oh okay so is there any point in upgrading research lab?

[coarse leaf]

Got it, thanks! I scanned around 10 times but only got 1 biodata so I was wondering if it needs to be upgraded

[radiant sky]

Scanner Upgrade makes it possible to get higher Tier. Biodata.
All available biodata is t1 in season1

[radiant sky]

No, it's just a question of luck

[coarse leaf]

Got it thanks, for now there’s no reason to upgrade research lab as well?

[timber glacier]

not really for this season

[coarse leaf]

Got it, thanks a lot for all the clarifications!

[maiden wasp]

Crazy times we live in, just sitting here thinking how crazy it is that im playing a game on my phone tied to an NFT that i own.... What a time to be alive

[timber glacier]

That's it for today

Have fun everyone!

[hasty topaz]

hello vana it seems your the most active and experienced here

can you plz or any one here why we can build another work engineer shop

whats the purpose of it and other buildings like quantum fabricant

why we can build more then one

i see one is enough

for quantum fabricant and engineer work shop

and what does zero point transducer do ??? other what they said in the info below it

[deep granite]

there isnt any reason you need more than 1 workshop or quantum fab. the zero point trans lets you transfer elements/fuel between lands you own but i dont think its working yet

[hasty topaz]

oh i get it now thnx mate

[hasty topaz]

and the building in others market isnt working too yet right ?

[deep granite]

the marketplace? its only simulated offers right now

it does work but its fake offers haha

[hasty topaz]

oh i see hehe

[hasty topaz]

so no bodey knows at what prices the blue prints and fuel resources is going to be sold...

[deep granite]

team might have a decent idea but us plebs dont know

[hasty topaz]

i think this stuff should be sold at a price thats is fair and decent since we as players need to wait alot of time to make them

its not easy to do fuel and blue prints actually it takes allot of time

[deep granite]

yeah well the market will figure out its value, i guess we'll see what happens 😜

[hasty topaz]

yup indeed i just hope users dont sell them cheap and appreciate the time and effort to make them

[cedar canopy]

GM , why I have on illuvium zero 0.20 Android on Google pixel 6a and Google pixel 6 no voice? Thank you

[hoary forge]

On my pixel 6pro i have audio.

[violet jackal]

When is the alpha season of ILV zero coming to an end?

[deep granite]

October 2028

[deep granite]

jk we're not star atlas

[knotty mango]

Hey, does rasising the efficiency of Materials lab actually do anything?

[cedar canopy]

Strange, thanks. May be a bug ? both devices on latest Android 13 and 05/2023 update . Both devices before old version was deinstalled.

[radiant sky]

Did you switch it on in Audio Settings?

Was switched of by default

[cedar canopy]

Fixed . Thanks . Why of by default ? 😂

[radiant sky]

Idk 😅

[radiant sky]

Write an ingame feedback.

[fallow yacht]

It's happened to me before , just restart

[cedar canopy]

Till which level I must play to get blue prints per land (max 15) ? I see some people on level 200 till level 420. Where I found tutorial what doing is necessary to get an blue print ? Thank you , sorry but we a investor and no player 😱

[radiant sky]

The Level and the ability to get blie Prints are in no relation.
Take your attention to the science Buildings.
You need a Scanner for scanning for illuvial biodata.
Then you need materials lab to research the found biodata to get blueprints.

[radiant sky]

https://youtu.be/LkAqq50XkhY

Oh ... Uummm.... And please Like and subscribe! 🙃

[lyric lodge]

Ok but quick question so we need a scanner, but do we need a lab and data bank for each scanner ? Also do we need the marketplace and holographic statue ?

[radiant sky]

Yes, you need the lab to research the found biodata from Scanners.
Databank increases efficiency for labs nearby.
Marketplace makes you able to trade Elements (lvl1) and fuel (lvl2).
AT Hologeaphic Statue you can show off an already found illuvial-biodata, and increases the chance to get illuvialbiodata of the same affinity as the shown illuvial. In season 1 all 5 illuvials have another affinity, so it has no usage until open beta launch.

[thorny crater]

What happens if I find a blue print but my databank isn’t done yet?

[lyric lodge]

Thanks bit we cannot trade now so market place no use right

[lyric lodge]

Assume will just be there until you can research it

[radiant sky]

It's a bot you Trade with for now.
With open Beta you can Trade with other players.
Also you can abuse it as unlimited storage now in s1 until it gets patched 🙃

[lyric lodge]

Yes but has no real use now right

[radiant sky]

Well.... If you are short of hydrogen for example, you can Trade carbon vs hydrogen.

[lyric lodge]

I mean now for season one we just need scanner, lab and databank right

[lyric lodge]

I see is there a wait time ?

[radiant sky]

You will need a Lot of hydrogen for Building Scanners and Scans.

[thorny crater]

😬

[radiant sky]

Basically yes.

[radiant sky]

Yes it will take some time.

[lyric lodge]

Awesome thanks....are we thinking it will easier to get blueprints now than with open beta ?

[radiant sky]

Absolutely

[lyric lodge]

Yeah less players

[lyric lodge]

Just going to have to work my ass off for a few months lol

[radiant sky]

I don't know how much, but i guess the dropchance is increased a Lot now in s1.

[radiant sky]

It is increased so every one who want the blueprints can get them. After open beta launch, the Chance to get a bp is Way lower.

[merry sand]

Is there a maximum level a structure can be?

[lyric lodge]

Ah so in season 1 we should all get a few

[quiet heath]

To be honest I think it should be way harder to get blueprint
They need to be really valuable

[lyric lodge]

I think will be with open beta

[radiant sky]

Yea, they said it's Kind of a thanks you for Beta testing and early investing.

[lyric lodge]

Reallyyyyy but only tier 1 but still good

[radiant sky]

Different Max lvl for different Buildings.

[quiet heath]

I have an idea for beta* since it will last until Q4 or later
To have to the chance to find an extremely rare blue print (I am talking like 0.000000000000001%)
Having lab maxed out and this sort of thing

The reason why I am saying this is because in a month time a lot of people will have all 15 blueprints

Thoughts??

[knotty mango]

Hey, does raising the efficiency above 100% on Materials lab actually do anything right now?

[radiant sky]

Yes

[merry sand]

Okay follow up what is the highest max level for any structure

[radiant sky]

Illuvihub.gg has a section with all buildings, their Max lvl and the costs. The site is made from a few community members.

[marble island]

hey, will it be possible to adjust land position on the Plots Section. I mean i want to be able to move my land from last one to first one ect.. for example being able to filter them by regions or Tiers

[open grove]

level 2 fuel converters cost 2 fuel to start right?

[spring void]

Great read, thank you for taking the time to write and post!

[junior depot]

If I create 2 materials and research the same illuvial. Would it work?

[spare spire]

You would then get 2 attempts with 5% success rate each 🙂

[fiery iris]

LFG BB

[dry mango]

🔥

[rare sonnet]

I got an Archie!

[heady dew]

what happens if i scan, find a biodata, then scan again do i lose it if i dont have a data bank?

[spare spire]

no, you won't lose it

[heady dew]

so what does the databank actually do

[spare spire]

As of now all it does it increase materials lab efficiency I believe

[still wadi]

We can only get 5 biodata in season 1 right? so we should stop scanning when we get 5?

How many facts and blueprints for 1 biodata?

[heady dew]

anyone minted a nft yet

[dry mango]

5 biodata, 3 blueprints each (15 blueprints per land)

[dry mango]

The NFT minting period has not started yet

[molten cave]

hi

one doubt, i have 4 singularities and so far just 1 illuvial data,

Do i need data bank for what? I am kind of lost

I just built those hologram

and gonna build tomorrow materials lab

[hardy brook]

Let's go! I've had some terrible luck so far with biodata and bps. Chuffed to finally have my first blueprint 😊

[dry mango]

Data bank just increase materials lab efficiency

[molten cave]

so i am just unlucky?

i scanned like 10 times and so far 1 illuvial data, its around 5% it seems

[dry mango]

In material lab you search blueprints with the BioData

[molten cave]

ah nice, next stpe

and materials lab, makes sense have a lot of them?

[dry mango]

No, just scanners

[molten cave]

because i will pick my illuvial data, if fail, it turns into a fact, what increase odds for next time, right?

this I understood from what I read

[dry mango]

More scanners more chance to find data

[molten cave]

yeah, I will have to make some maths further to know if 100% its really good

maybe compress a bit with 80% may be better long term,

[spring jetty]

What does zero point transducer do??

[dry mango]

Nothing atm

Will be used to transport resources from one land to other

[lethal imp]

So I have the materials to build the singularity scanner and can actually build it but one is still red?

[spring jetty]

For free?

[dry mango]

Probably will have a fee or something like that

[lethal imp]

how come I can t build it when I have everything and room to do so

[spring jetty]

I guess it won't be needed within a mega city?

[dry mango]

No info about atm

[dry mango]

Try restart the game or get a little more hydrogen

[lethal imp]

i did restart and I added storage and am working on that now. was thinking same

I am at 1.125 or so

says I only need 1.1

[dry mango]

If the problem persists send a ticket at #❓❓〕support

[lethal imp]

figures.. b een waiting all week to build this thing and of course.. my RNG wins again in the wrong direction

Ok it let me do it. had to reach 1.15 m

😄

[dry mango]

Nice

Good luck

[spare spire]

It's probably rounding buddy. The top display shows you have 1.1M but you could still be a short of the full amount.

[lethal imp]

no I have 1.25 max storage and had maxxed 1.1 before I built the last storage so it was not rounding up

i had 1.1 exactly

so built another storage

after gaining ground to 1.15 it let me build it

[still wadi]

What does statue boost? the scanner or the research in materials lab?

[empty path]

Just collecting facts for now

[tired pumice]

wtf you all play these ?!

damn Fraggy

[stable basin]

anyone else struggling with the mobile installation>

[vivid cipher]

Some people have had difficulty. What android version are you using?

Basically all I’ve needed to do to install it was download it, unzip it, install it.

[stable basin]

It's a Moto e, certainly a few years old.

I'm tired and ca't find the spec

it ran the first version cleanly

[vivid cipher]

#❓❓〕support would be helpful.

It looks like it probably runs android v10

[stable basin]

Yea I get all the way through the extraction. And then it tries to install and fails at the last moment. What do I need minimum ideally?

[vivid cipher]

Might need to be android v11. Not sure. But I saw a video on how to install android v11 on Moto e

Not sure. Check with support

[hoary forge]

Did you deinstall the old version?

Ok only think i would try is to restart the phone and try again. Android 10 should be good. Install guide from zero is tested with android 10.

[stable basin]

What do I do once I get to RAR the unzipper?

[grand sigil]

And another day with failed scanning😒🥺

[hoary forge]

You download.
You unzip or try to click on install.

[stable basin]

Cool Thanks four help and patience. It keeps getting to 100 extracted dying. My buddy can maybe help "there was a problem pushing the package"

I'll take it to support

Thanks for being awesome

"parsing" not pushing

[hoary forge]

I use the CX Datei Explorer.
Super easy. I click on the zip file. Then on the APK and then it unpacks and install.

[rigid aspen]

Have mega cities been introduced yet?

[vivid cipher]

No. Probably Won’t be until after public launch.

[rigid aspen]

Gotcha.

Glad someone sniped the one I was trying to make then. It does make me wish I had gone for teir 4 land instead now instead if a several of T2/T3.

Having fun though in the game. My tier 3 is lvl 253 now. Can’t wait to create and sell fuel to players 🙂

[oak dagger]

Will mega cities be released with public launch? (i.e. at the beginning of the launch) Because it kind of defeats the purpose if you build 4 Nexus on a 2x2, only to delete them later after expensing time and resources. Especially when it costs fuel aka real money in public launch

Please relay that to the dev team

[slim topaz]

imma bet dollars to donuts that they haven't figured out how to do megacities - it was one of that "hey that's really cool idea" and then "wait how do we do this nonsense". otherwise it makes no sense to not have them tested in alpha... heh.

[hoary forge]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[slim topaz]

and i completely agree that not having them ready at the start of public launch is kind of annoying.

[hoary forge]

They said it would come as an expansion. Maybe they get it ready for public beta. We will get more info in the next few weeks.

[slim topaz]

yeah but, seriously, it seems pretty odd that such a major aspect of the game, touted/marketed and for which people paid ALOT for, isn't getting design and tested in advance of public release... but what do i know. just seems kind of odd that something this big isn't being implemented and tested at this stag

[timber glacier]

There is a bit of a rounding error on the capacity indicator (having 1.05m capacity incorrectly shows as 1.1m)

[hoary forge]

They are working on. And we don't know the state of development on mega Citys or what is planned for that feature. One step at a time. The next thing is to mint blueprints. Then it will go on and on.

[slim topaz]

yeah i understand that. i'm just pointing out that my bet for the reason why it's being pushed back is because it's really hard to do and they haven't figured out how to do it yet - it's marketing telling the product guys what they need to figure out how to do before they know they can do it. again, it is what it is; i'm just both entertained, amused, and annoyed by the delay. but i'm beating a dead horse b/c i'm tired and anytime megacities are brought up i feel obligated to express my opinions on the matter. i did pay for them after all.

[oak dagger]

@slim topaz @hoary forge firstly, I appreciate the efforts of the developers. Great work as a whole for all they have done. And yes I also agree with Unknown as the land snipers in land sale targeted and increased costs for mega city completions. To have to “pay further” for deleted buildings is insult to injury

[hoary forge]

I guess it's more because they only have a small team. And other things have more priority for public beta Launch. They still try to get as many as possible finished for public beta.

[oak dagger]

Understood. Thank you for the links to reference answers

[timber glacier]

Decent start of the day

How are you guys doing?

[slim topaz]

i can't figoure out how to stack more than 4 scanners on my T4. i think imma have to accept much less than 90 efficiency on scanners - any thoughts on an efficiency that's too low to be worth the bother? or just go stack 'em b/c why not?

in super early alpha i saw someone show a plot that had 2 scanners next to each other - i think they were at like 70% each or something

[timber glacier]

with enough resources efficiency doesn't really matter, then it's just a matter of probability vs resources spent

[slim topaz]

fair enuff, that's what i figured as well. you just keep stacking 'em as long as you can generate the resources to run 'em

just put a ton of 50% scanners next to each other, i suppose 😛

[timber glacier]

yup, or the other way around, just put enough scanners to burn whatever extra resources you have

[noble path]

Hello everyone! Trying to upload a picture and I get the message that I am missing permissions ... Anyone knows why ?

[versed warren]

Thats hype

[timber glacier]

Yes, you need to be lv5 (levels gained by chatting on this server) you can check your level in #👑〕bot-commands by typing !rank

[noble path]

Thanks a lot !

[timber glacier]

No problem, it usually doesn't take that long to level up

[noble path]

Now with the game I guess I have to be a lot also here!

[timber glacier]

You don't have to, but it might be helpful if you have questions

There's usually a lot of people around to ask about stuffs

[grand sigil]

I only got something on my 1st scan qnd since than nothing 😔

[empty path]

I believe it's around 80 messages

[timber glacier]

I'm 2/21 now, so about 9,5% success rate

[grand sigil]

@timber glacier nice

[timber glacier]

and I got the two lowest probability ones first

how's that for randomness

[grand sigil]

@timber glacier i thought probabilities are equal lol

[timber glacier]

right, they might not be different for alpha?

There's this though
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Specifically mentioning cross-region illuvials suggest there's different chances

[sour kettle]

I had 2 scans in a row not find anything, is there something I can do to increase the chance I find something ?

[agile sigil]

What does third dot mean on the fact? is there 4 more facts to be research?

[hollow quiver]

what does 150% efficiency on marketplace do?

[woven solstice]

Is there a limited number of blueprints?

[waxen vector]

15 blueprints for this season

[radiant sky]

I guess so... Even tho i found 3 pretty fast and no more facts since then.

[waxen vector]

Hi guys, is a Data Bank a lot better than a Power Station to boost a Material Lab? Thanks

[grand sigil]

Whats with the dots here? Do i have 1 out of 3? Or 2 out of 3 dots lol?

[woven solstice]

Does that mean only 15 people will be able to find them?

[radiant sky]

1 out of 3
Because it's Stage 1 kuk

[radiant sky]

No, everyone can get them

[grand sigil]

@radiant sky isnt it 2/3. I have 2 purple

Lol

[waxen vector]

Each players are able to find the 15 blueprints

[hoary forge]

This is the stage of the illuvial. This one is stage 1

[radiant sky]

Stage 1, 2 and 3.
We are looking for biodata of Stage 1 now in s1

[waxen vector]

That's why it's not usefull to upgrade the scanner this season?

[radiant sky]

No thats because of the Tier. Because we have just Tier 1 in s1

In the pic above you See kuka Tier 1 and also a vermilliara which is a Tier 3.

The Tier gives you an estimate of rarity and strength of the line.

[hollow quiver]

up, anyone knows?

[radiant sky]

I don't think it has any effect for now, but i'm not sure.

I think efficiency will be related to travel Times, but thats also just a guess. 😅

[harsh dew]

How long the land owner will have to search for blueprint they can mint later ?

[dusk matrix]

Do i need a data bank?

[timber glacier]

Only way would be to build more scanners (or raising efficiency, unless it's at it's max 100% already)

[timber glacier]

Marketplace efficiency doesn't affect anything at the moment

[timber glacier]

Data Bank boosts Labs up to +30%
Power Station up to +10%

[timber glacier]

Only if you need more efficiency boost on your Labs

[ember olive]

hello, my progress is not saving when i switch between lands. can someone help?

[hoary forge]

Please contact support on that link in the #❓❓〕support channel

[solid iris]

Hey guys, is it normal to have several scans over the last days and not find anything? I didn't build a lab yet, don't know if that influences

[nova epoch]

yes its normal, I have the same with lab

5%

[grand sigil]

I had 18 dry scans. Got a biodata in my 1st scan qfter that nothing lol

[sour kettle]

Damnn, I thought I got unlucky and it would be more common to get one

Guess I gotta build a second one

[timber glacier]

I got my 2nd Biodata just this morning, on my 16th scan

[grand sigil]

@sour kettle i got 4 qnd im getting nothing nada, niks, niente, nimic🤦‍♂️

[grand sigil]

You lucky🤬

Joking bro. Happy for you👊

[timber glacier]

No blueprints yet though

[copper inlet]

VAAAANAAAAA

question xD

[grand sigil]

@timber glacier i havent even built q lab yet lmao.

[empty path]

[sour kettle]

Eyyyyy, nice to see the romanian version there as well haha

[copper inlet]

how many Facts we have per Illuvial 👀

[empty path]

There are 5 but we can only find 3

[grand sigil]

@sour kettle well... yeah. Thats native🤣

[copper inlet]

you both AWESOME

[timber glacier]

I'm slowly adding some, just trying not to run out of resources for scanners

[grand sigil]

@timber glacier im still upgrading stuff slowly so i wont run out for rss. Gotta up storage now. Than quantum 4. Than lab. Lol

[timber glacier]

I'm working on my resource converters currently, 4/6 up to lv6

[grand sigil]

@timber glacier i think lab isnt THAT important now. So i eant 6 scanners 1st. Than lab. Lol

@timber glacier im at 5 with the converters

[timber glacier]

Yea, I'm prioritizing scans for now

[grand sigil]

@timber glacier but everything already got so slow... resource wise... but once i have the 6th scanner i can up the other builds lol

[timber glacier]

Yup, scanning eats a lot of resources, every day

[grand sigil]

@timber glacier 6 scanners eat half a day rss for a t1 lmao

[timber glacier]

How many extractors/converters are you running?

[grand sigil]

@timber glacier just 3. 2 hydro one carbon.

[timber glacier]

Ah

I'm running Extractor + 2 Converters per element, kinda want to add more, but I'm out of space on my plot

need to upgrade those storage units

[grand sigil]

@timber glacier i could add more extractors.... but i want scanners in that free space lol

[timber glacier]

technically, I could add 2 more scanners on 100%, if I remove some stuff

[sour kettle]

What do you guys usually use your credits on ?

[grand sigil]

@timber glacier can run 6 qt 100%

[solid iris]

but then your scans are not at 100% right?

[timber glacier]

I used mine mostly on Nexus upgrades and resource/fuel extractor upgrades

[timber glacier]

They're all on 100% scans

[solid iris]

you don't have issues with space?

[timber glacier]

Let's hope they have some luck soon then shall we?

[timber glacier]

I don't have any space left...

[grand sigil]

@timber glacier god bless🙏

[solid iris]

how many scanners you managed to build?

[timber glacier]

7 so far. Could get 2 more if I get rid of some other buildings, but I'm not sure yet.

[radiant sky]

7x 100% ... What a dream

[median salmon]

do i need material lab ? just built my singularity

[radiant sky]

Yes for researching the biodata you found with your Scans.

[median salmon]

damn got not enough space!

[median salmon]

lets have a beer

[radiant sky]

I don't drink beer

[median salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/stone-cold-steve-austin-cheer-toast-drink-beer-drinking-beer-gif-16585540

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/saturdays-are-for-the-boys-beer-usabeerdrinkingteam-chug-keg-gif-18479406

[timber glacier]

Current look:

[radiant sky]

Thats some pro lvl shit 😂

[median salmon]

proud of uu fragyyy!!

[radiant sky]

Clean as possible. Looking nice.

[median salmon]

u got 3 material lab ?

[timber glacier]

so far, yes

[median salmon]

amazing!

[grand sigil]

@timber glacier you are lucky you have extractors positioned good on map

[timber glacier]

Yeah, they're placed really nicely on this plot

[median salmon]

i was thinking the same

[timber glacier]

my other plots aren't quite as nice, so I figured I'd start with the best one

think at best one of them can hold 4 or 5 scanners at 100%

Whoever owns this one must have an easy time placing scanners:

[grand sigil]

Q@timber glacier daaaum

[lavish umbra]

hello, is it safe to play on both android and pc?

[hoary forge]

Yes sure. You need to go to the home Menu before you switch to another device.

[lavish umbra]

nice, thanks

[jade ruin]

hey guys

how can i get solon if my land just have crypto and hyperion??

the marketplace??

[hoary forge]

There are fuel converters

[jade ruin]

ohhh nice

thanks dude

[radiant sky]

Found 2 new biodata today... LFG!

[vivid wharf]

Nice!

I'm churning through my first 3 plots since I'm mostly playing on mobile. We'll see how many I end up having patience to complete 😂

[waxen vector]

How long is going to last this season?

[thorny crater]

This game cause my computer to go into bitlocker recovery mode…..

[timber glacier]

until Open Beta (estimated in Q4 this year)

[dry mango]

Please submit a ticket to support at #❓❓〕support so that the team can take a look at this issue

[waxen vector]

Which give us some time to get all the 15 blueprints 😊

[timber glacier]

Yup

[waxen vector]

Do you think we're going to have new blueprints to look for in the Open Beta?

[dry mango]

Certainly, we will have a wider range of blueprints available at launch.

[timber glacier]

"full set" sounds like it could be a lot

[grim cloud]

does the holographic statue do anything?

[vernal mural]

hey guys, do I need Data Bank to be able to store Biodata from Singularity Scanner, or is Data Bank just showing storage? So, does it make sense to collect Scanner before having Data Bank?

[timber glacier]

Yes, but what it does has no effect currently
(It supposedly increases the chance of finding other illuvials of the same affinity as the one on display, but there's only one per affinity to find right now)

[grim cloud]

ok sweet, thanks for that bit of info

[jade ruin]

can i get more than 1 builder??

[timber glacier]

Data Bank is optional for this season, in the future it may become required

[dry mango]

data bank just increase material lab effiency

[timber glacier]

not for the alpha season

[grim cloud]

with the data bank if i have 2, when i research it still shows as 5%

[jade ruin]

thanks

[timber glacier]

yes, the info pages on the lab never updates the 5% to reflect the efficiency boost, unfortunately

[grim cloud]

so really it should be 10% for 2, is that something that is going to change in future builds do we know

[timber glacier]

Data bank only increase the efficiency (to a max of 150%) which then increase the research chance. So being at max should give you 7,5%. (Then it gets boosted further if you have researched Facts for the illuvial you're researching)

[vernal mural]

is there schoolar existing for IZ?

[timber glacier]

Nothing official, but some people and guilds are offering it

[grim cloud]

oh ok im with you now, so its basiclly the power station for labs in a sense

[maiden wasp]

Morning Morning

[timber glacier]

Yes (just more efficient, as it gives up to +30%, where power stations only give up to +10%)

[grim cloud]

cool i was confusing myself, cheers Vana

[marsh idol]

So, once we find all 5 biodata, we can just sell the scanners right?

[vernal mural]

what does the efficiency of marketplace improve?

[timber glacier]

yup

[timber glacier]

nothing that we know of, at the moment anyway

as far as we know, yes (at least when it comes to stuff you can keep)

[thorny crater]

Done.

[dry mango]

[fleet jacinth]

Does anyone know a good way to farm crypto’s should I have multiple crypton farming things I can’t wait another day 😂

[muted tree]

wow, why did you need so many converters?

[languid flint]

Hi guys, sorry to ask something probably already answered :
1/ Is there an idea of this season's length ?
2/ Is there any benefits to go as fast as possible within this range to discover blueprints ?

[timber glacier]

1. Until open beta (Q4 at earliest)
2. No, not really. You only need to find them before the season ends.

[timber glacier]

Just so I didn't have to wait to produce fuel (they produce passively)

[thorny crater]

is building converters like that that much better?

like gets you teh most resources?

[muted tree]

oh, so you didn't use them to convert the fuel, just get the passive fuel, right?

[silver plover]

first scan - success, next 4- fail...my hopes were so high haha

[agile sigil]

Does the holograpic statue do something more then just show of?

[silver plover]

no that is why it is so cheap to build

[timber glacier]

early on yes, (just for passive gain though)

[timber glacier]

I used a few to convert, but I had to move them to a different location for that to get efficiency up

[agile sigil]

Okay, i thought so

[timber glacier]

Not in the alpha
In the beta it'll increase the chances of finding illuvials of the same affinity as the one you have on display

[muted tree]

That make sense, thanks!

[sweet egret]

can the passive generations of fuel stack or is it limited to 1?

I'm refering to the converters*

[timber glacier]

It's affected by efficiency (and currently rounds fractions) so for example 150% efficiency on 1 passive fuel would become 1.5, which rounds up to 2.

[sweet egret]

ah good hint! But it´s only at 78% efficiency. Not sure if I can get it to 150 😄

[hidden axle]

I have got 9BP now🤣

[rigid aspen]

Dang! Congrats!

Any tips for us ? How many scanners you got running?

How many plots?

[compact gate]

are there different kind of blueprints or is it always Physical Armour, Hybrid Armour and Energy Armour?

[spare spire]

That was fast! Which tier are you playing?

[maiden wasp]

Got some speed runner amongst us lol

[dry mango]

5 biodata, 3 blueprints each for now

[compact gate]

so this means everyone who finds the Archie biodata will get the same BPs? or am i just stupid?

is the check mark for "yes the same BPs" or "yes you are stupid" xD

[dry mango]

same Blueprints

[compact gate]

okay, cool. now i understand the situation, thank you

have a nice weekend guys

[hidden axle]

I have T4 12 scanners 11 Labs hahaha🤣

[slim topaz]

OK, my new whine of the day: converters are OP or extractors need buffing. right now, there's no point to have extractors b/c once you get to L4, converters are infinitely more powerful and versitile than straight extractors. At the very least, extractors need the same upgrade costs as converters.

the add'l upgrade requirement for fuel to take an extractor from l3 to l4 cripples extractors.

[thorny crater]

I keep forgeting. After building scanner what is needed most databank or material lab?

[thorny crater]

Yeah I remeber the devs talking about this a lot. The convertor were made that way becasue t3-t4 would just dominate teh whole thing make t1-2 and maybe t3 obsolete

I do not build extractoirs becasue I hate teh clicking and convertors produce most passivaly anyway

[dry mango]

lab

[slim topaz]

right now, t4 converters are where it's at.

and the cost to go to a T5 converter is worth it.

[dry mango]

data bank just increase material lab effiency

[river ingot]

Can you get a singularity scanner above 100? I have it in the very corner away from everything and tried to put a power source next to it but stays right at that level.

[slim topaz]

but the cost to go from T3 to T5 extractor totally is too much

[thorny crater]

not on how much passivaly you get

its worth it

[hoary forge]

no 100% is max

[slim topaz]

yeah converters are absolutely worth it >>> extractors. i mean, at this point, i would like to tear out my element nodes and just go with converters (of course, you need at least 1 node to get you going)

maybe one way to make extractor nodes "worth it" is to make conveters 4x4 or something like that. therej's got to be some valuei for having the element nodes.

otherwise, it's almost like you're better off with all silicon nodes and running carbon and hydrogen converters.

[thorny crater]

check this @slim topaz

this will be my go too once land gets whiped again

[slim topaz]

woah that's a thing of beatury

holy hell my plots are a complete clusterfook of a mess

[thorny crater]

Unless extractor become auto fill like clash of clans where you have to click to collect. Ill never build them again till late game. maybe not eve that

[slim topaz]

yeah and the mechnic where extractors are worthless means one less dimension of value in this game.

seems like a bad design, but wtf do i know i suppose.

[ornate crag]

do converters still gain passive fuel or element when used for converting?

or its passive timer stops while converting?

[slim topaz]

yes.no.,

[thorny crater]

passive is constatnt

[dry mango]

the passive is always running, doesn't need the active going for it to work

we currently can't see the passive timer

[latent kiln]

can someone tell me how much is to upgrade a solon dredge?

i have it working rn

cant check xD

upgrade to lvl 2

[grand sigil]

Damn failed scans😭

[latent kiln]

ty Vana

[slim topaz]

@timber glacier heya @rapid nebulaki.eth linked a picture that you posted of a plot that was amazingly organized. what level are your converters and other buildings? this thing is amazing.

like it's making me rethinkg the whole way i'm laying out my plots. mine are a complete mess

[timber glacier]

Fuel converters are all lvl1
Storage is all lvl5 (Fuel storage at lv3)
Nexus 7
Workshop and all resource extractors/converters lvl6 (soon)
Scanners and Labs at 1

[slim topaz]

awesome thanks so much!

[river ingot]

That just makes me feel very inadequate playing this game.....lol

[timber glacier]

I just have too much free time to spend on planning

[slim topaz]

it's amazing... i am, how does one say it? In awe.

[timber glacier]

I also may have spent too much time playing tetris...

[slim topaz]

yeah i saw that and was like. Ok. i'm not very good at gaming.

[latent kiln]

but all those l crypton colider are 50% whyyy

[slim topaz]

efficiency and cost

it takes up way too much space to have a bunch of 100% fuel extractors and it takes way to many power stations to get them to 150%

[timber glacier]

they're only passively generating (I don't really need much fuel at this point)

[deep iris]

So interested to see your setup after you get all the BPs and setup for max fuel generation 👀

[latent kiln]

i need them producing all the time at this stage

[timber glacier]

still working on that one, haven't quite figured out the best way to do that yet

[slim topaz]

it takes 3 power stations to get a node to 150% but it takes 9 to get a converter to 150%

9 if you add a path around the converter

i htink you can do 8 w/o path

[timber glacier]

On average (with optimization and sharing power stations between more converters) you can get it down to 5 per converter

[slim topaz]

yeah if you runa bunch of them.

[timber glacier]

So one Converter would need to generate a profit of 3 fuel per day before breaking even with just having 6x running on 50% for the 2 day passive

They'd need to be lv3 for that

Anyways, there will be changes to how the passive works in Beta, so this won't last forever I guess

[versed warren]

I got lvl 1 convertor to 150% and when I collected the convertor it gave me 2 so thats nice but when I collected the passive fuel it only gave me 1?

[thorny crater]

This site is amazing!

[timber glacier]

Was it at 150% when the fuel was added to the passive storage? (It doesn't calculate how much you get when you click to collect, it calculates when the passive timer resets)

[versed warren]

No? Wait how do you manage that😂 you have to time it before the fuel is added?

[thorny crater]

move teh power station before you collect

[timber glacier]

yes, you'd have to either keep it at 150% all the time or know when the timer is about to reset

[versed warren]

I did, but like vana is saying it has to be 150 before it auto adds to the passive collection

[versed warren]

I assume you have alarms?😂

[timber glacier]

Sort of, I have a spreadsheet where I noted down the time I build each converter

But I suppose I could set alarms too

I managed to get them fairly close together, and it only happens once every 48h, so just need the one alarm

[slim topaz]

do 2 50% scanners = 1 100% scanner?

[versed warren]

Idk how you keep track of like different ones of the same convertors tho

[rancid iris]

https://tenor.com/view/urkel-steve-urkel-jaleel-white-family-matters-nerd-gif-7528824

[timber glacier]

Almost (they're about 0,06% less likely to find something)

Assuming it's 5% success on scans:
1x 100% = 5%
2x 50% = 1-(0,975^2) = 4,9375%

Waits for the Nerd Alert

[fair temple]

Interesting... so why dont you build 10 scanners? Is it because you dont have the daily required amount of resources?

[timber glacier]

Yeah, pretty much that

I did add some converters and got their levels up, so I could probably fit a few more now

Resource converters I mean

[fair temple]

Yeah i got that :p

[timber glacier]

At lv6 they do provide another 60k every 2 hours or so

So I could probably add another 3 scanners

well, 2 at least

[vocal stirrup]

The Zero Point Transducer does nothing during the alpha? In the beta you'll be able to use it to transfer resources to your different land plots Im guessing?

[timber glacier]

Yes, and yes (most likely)

[vocal stirrup]

Lots of great information Vana. Thanks so much 😄

[lost drift]

Are there more than 3 blueprints for each illuvial?

[dry mango]

5 biodata, 3 blueprints each (15 max per land)

[rare sonnet]

So I just got my first bio data….now what do I do?

[icy walrus]

Try to get blueprints

[dry mango]

build a material lab and search for blueprints

[icy walrus]

Is this the same for all lands?

[dry mango]

yep

[rare sonnet]

So do I need to be picky?

[icy walrus]

Nah, try to find all 5 bio data meanwhile try to get all 15 blueprints

The goal is the blueprints

[thorny crater]

?Does clicking reset delet everything or let me replace all teh building from scratch at thier current level?

[hoary forge]

when you click the reset button all will get wiped.

[radiant sky]

😎

[river ingot]

Got my first biodata today after trying two times. I feel proud.

[dusty agate]

Hi 👋

Are there any news about ilz launch on ios?

Maybe someone knows something about that 😂

@hoary forge 🤗

[hoary forge]

no sorry no news about ios right now.
they working on to get it on WebGL as soon as possible.

[dusty agate]

Nice otherwise will have to get android 😔

[dusty agate]

By the way i fixed the game thanx for your help…

🤝

[hoary forge]

ya i play on android and it works great.
you´re welcome

[dusty agate]

I had several phones but my kids broke them so

Have play from laptop

[hoary forge]

i will get to know that soon too 😄

[dusty agate]

Going to become a dad? 🤗

[hoary forge]

have 1 year young boy. so maybe i order a new phone soon 😄

[dusty agate]

They are more careful at that age

Mine go wild sometimes and i can t stop them 😂😂😂

But you ll feel happy when see they are playing even braking your things 😂😂

[hoary forge]

same

[acoustic igloo]

the efficiency percentage is hidden if two nodes are next to each other. where can I report things such as this for improvement?

[dusty agate]

Oh i have so many places like that

I cant even push them until i dont zoom in and try 10 times to click the right place

[acoustic igloo]

got to level 100+ on my tier 1 plot 🙂

[heady dew]

two scans, two biodata found

did i just get giga lucky?

[grand sigil]

I feel this pain as well🤣

[iron laurel]

My First Blueprint Found!

It's so exciting to find one. Just imagining being able to make these and use them in game to capture Illuvials that we will actually own. It's incredible.

[grand sigil]

Im at 19 scans. And i only got 1 biodata in my first one. Rest o ly fail.🙁

[heady dew]

ooof

how many scanners u running

[iron laurel]

The first is always easier than the others I think. Have you built a lab to get blueprints from that one while you scan?

[grand sigil]

4

[barren barn]

Blueprint Day!

[eternal zinc]

What to do when you actually found a blueprint? 😄

[spare spire]

You celebrate!

[iron laurel]

We will be able to mint them before the next wipe, and the game starts.

[spare spire]

For now you just gotta catch'em all. Later on there will be a minting window so you can keep the asset forevah

[pale jay]

question for the land owners - if you hold multiple lands in a single wallet can you use the resources generated from them to improve either plot? or are they tied to land plots not wallets

[eternal zinc]

Well, then let's celebrate! 😄 😄

[iron laurel]

Megacities (2x2or 3x3 connected plots) will be able to. If they are not connected you would have to send them from one plot to the other but I don't think it has been totally nailed down as to what the time or cost will be for that.

[lost drift]

boa, valeu dr

[rancid iris]

https://tenor.com/view/what-surprise-shock-snoop-dogg-ggn-gif-11002651

[thin cedar]

Hi. Is there a button to hide the UI?

[naive fog]

How do I get more builders?

1/1 lol

[timber glacier]

for this season we don't

[rancid iris]

https://tenor.com/view/you-can-run-but-you-cant-hide-brizzy-voices-theres-no-escape-nowhere-to-hide-gif-23007270

[thin cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/screenshot-screenshots-krien-mariah-ken-lee-gif-21172887

[naive fog]

Nooo 😦

[long grove]

Guys Power Plant vs Data Bank right now, is it the same for improving the efficiency on finding BP?

[timber glacier]

Power Plant gives at most +10% to Labs
Data Bank gives at most +30%

They both affect efficiency and they stack together, so you can use a mix of both

[little moon]

Trade Offer:Hydrogen 20k Asking:Carbon 20k expires 3h 39m

[fair temple]

Lol lets hope the trading AI sees this message

[thorny crater]

It’s just AI* right now. I use it to store resources lol

[rancid iris]

Isnt there a risk of having the AI take the offer and you'll end up with overload of storage of what you get in return?..when its allready full you'll lose everything on that trade?
(reading this back , having empty storages on land and everything in trades would solve that problem..🤔 )

[pale jay]

awesome, thanks friend

[timber glacier]

Yes, the AI might accept any trade you put into the marketplace.
But you'll have to collect the trade once it's done, so there's never a risk to overflow storage.

[radiant sky]

@timber glacier how many facts are there in S1?

[rancid iris]

Ah i see , and just dont collect it

[timber glacier]

Exactly

[timber glacier]

There's 5 (but seems we can only find 3) per illuvial

[radiant sky]

Last pic with scanners, before i bomb them all... kinda hurts😢 😂

[long grove]

thanks mate, u def are a library in this game, u know all of it!!! love u haha

[grand sigil]

@radiant sky you already got the 5 bio?

[radiant sky]

Yea

[grand sigil]

@radiant sky daaaaum. I just hit no 20 scan with no bio....

[radiant sky]

Just kidding... Thats pretty unlucky mate

[grand sigil]

@radiant sky yeah... 🥺😕

[radiant sky]

Got 3 biodata today, guess it was pretty lucky

[radiant sky]

Did you build the data Bank?

[grand sigil]

@radiant sky not yet upgrading storage now.

Tomorrow ill build bank and lab

[radiant sky]

Can't remember exactly if it was just because of efficiency, but Julien highly recommended Building it.

[grand sigil]

@radiant sky i run the scanners qt 100%

[radiant sky]

I had not 1 Scanner AT 100% 😅

Most between 50 and 60%

I guess it's just Bad luck.
But maybe they built something hidden into databank, which not only increases efficiency of mat labs, but also increases Chance of finding biodata? Idk... Can't Find his Post anymore.

[radiant sky]

That was it

Seems to be efficiency only...

[timber glacier]

That's all I can do for today

[last tiger]

How many bluprints did u find already?

That's a tier 3 right?

[last tiger]

Can I see ur build bro?

Still tier 1 right?

[radiant sky]

5 na its a t4

[timber glacier]

Sure, and yes still just playing the one T1
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message
(I added another lab since that post, but that's about all that's changed)

[desert tartan]

This Marketplace in keeps loading and doesn't give me the resources, and when I click accept, it deducts my resource but never finishes loading, it keeps duplicating. Only for this particular trade and I can't remove it

[radiant sky]

was offline for 2 days... i guess there are people who already have close to all bp.

[last tiger]

That's insane bro how do u do that jesus

[last tiger]

Amazing

[timber glacier]

careful planning (and I did try it once on last season, but I didn't get it quite right then), so I guess practice?

[wise widget]

Woohoo my first scanner is on the go on my T1 🎉

[last tiger]

Jesus

[timber glacier]

you should probably bug report that
#❓❓〕support

[last tiger]

U use a lot of converters to give u passive fuel right?

[timber glacier]

yup

[desert tartan]

Yup, thanks. I already send bug report

[velvet osprey]

do fuel converters passively generated while not online?

[rancid iris]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-and-pam-yes-gif-21499107

[brave wren]

so if you have the biodata you don't lose it when you research it?

[radiant sky]

Yes

[brave wren]

ah thank you i wasn't researching thinking you had to upgrade materials labs for better chances

[radiant sky]

No, don't need to do that in season1

[brave wren]

nice so once you catch the 5 biodata's thats it for scanners?

[radiant sky]

Yep, no more work for them

[brave wren]

cool thx man have a good weekend!

[radiant sky]

You too mate

[simple estuary]

I’m on level 98, T3

How do I find blueprints?

[simple estuary]

You only need 1 engendering workshop?

[rancid iris]

Yes 👍

[simple estuary]

Still learning

I’ve put too much time and energy into multiple building I don’t need

[rancid iris]

Me too, but it was a question i knew the answer of 😁

[little moon]

You only need 1 quantum fabricant?

[pearl dagger]

did anyone else in zero alpha get rolled back to yesterday in the past couple hours?

[rancid iris]

Yes. from the basics only the power station you'll need more of.

[little moon]

Okay thanks sir, I will create 3 power station

[mystic solstice]

when can you download zero on iso?

ios*

[rancid iris]

Depending on what percentages you want ur stuff to run on..

[little moon]

Yes sir

[amber atlas]

That is not good... Please raise that with support + @spring mist + @dusty cobalt

[pearl dagger]

maybe my splitting my time between android device and pc caused some mess

[amber atlas]

possiby but a lot of people play like that, so we still need to get on top of it

[pearl dagger]

yep, agreed, thanks

[hoary forge]

Did you go to the home Menu before switching device?

[pearl dagger]

I am pretty sure I closed the game from within a plot on the pc, then a couple hours later opened the game on android. I don't think that I closed the Android device in the same way when I stopped playing on it ~11 hrs ago

[hoary forge]

That could be it. Always click on the home Menu. The game will save it and you can close and open it on another device.

[pearl dagger]

thanks, good advice

[pale jay]

Question for t1 players out there. What can y’all expect, roughly, for fuel production once you are at max level? (Of whatever your one fuel type is)

[pearl dagger]

@amber atlas you didn't send me a pm did you?

[amber atlas]

no

[pearl dagger]

thought so, someone trying to get me, lol

[amber atlas]

scammers

[hoary forge]

Please report in #🚨❗〕report-scammers with discord id and screenshot

[tough field]

It s part of the learning process to find the better layout for your land! 😉

[blazing ferry]

What are people's thoughts on playing multiple plots?

[tough field]

That is a good question! I don’t have any idea 🤓

[pale jay]

Fair enough. How much are you earning at the point that you’re at?

Just trying to get an idea vs the supposed costs of running overworld

[blazing ferry]

This will vary considerably depending on if you optimize for blueprints or fuel. You don't need to stick with your one fuel type if you build lots and lots of converters

I'm not sure if we really know what the fuel costs will be in overworld yet either. Are the current pb travel costs just placeholders?

[hoary forge]

Yes there are all placeholder. There is no info about how much fuel a land can produce and what the price for fuel will be. Same for overworld no info about how much travel to stage 1-3 will be.

[dusty agate]

So the number of fuel they produce while this beta will change?

[hoary forge]

I think so. Or they change the cost for travel on overworld. We don't know yet.