#🎮〕illuvium-zero
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Exactly so waiting for it to be built for an L2 English auction is possible. There's time while the game is still being developed. There's no Alpha, PB2 or even Overworld Beta. If we can do an L2 English Auction and there's time then that makes way more sense... Also isn't OpenSea going to be using the Immutable X platform? It has a bidding system already on the platform.
Opensea is integrating imx yes what that means for us I don’t have details on yet
Fair!
why? I got my eth ready
Layer 2 doesn’t matter for tier 5. The sale should be delayed until we know some timelines for the game IMO, but layer 2 has 0 influence on the price of a tier 5, and we should stop using it as an excuse in this community. I think
Exactly my thoughts
Thats not the only 'excuse' I'm saying, its more to me personally about it not being a priority in anyway considering marketing conditions
Maybe ‘reason’ is a better word. From the last minutes from council it stated: “Waiting for IMX to be ready so we can run the entire T5 sale on L2,………” and I just think it reflects bad on our community, since it makes no sense for T5
And I know it’s not the only. Just don’t think it should be any of the reasons - if that makes sense
Yeah I gotcha... Like I said we could totally run it right now if we required to without issue afaik
Dont need T5 before full game imo
We really don't at all lol
It's more of a fun thing for us to watch anyways
Agree
Get revidis from the sale other than that and hype around it.
Yeah but like work on full release is far more important
Guys….how many lands is too many lands?
it's never enough
I agree…more land it is.
is that from the greatest showman?
yes!
Of course ❤️ love that movie
Lars you are the voice of reason haha
that is a great Movie,my wife wanted to see it and i was like nope not watching a Musical and bloddy hell it was so good.
"when in doubt,buy land" is a known phrase.
Thinking about one more T2. Then calling it quits until the game releases.
iam still trying to get my MC,but without bidding iam kinda in an holding pattern...have spread my land plots to mulltible adresses as to not tip off my neighbour what iam trying to do😬
Super smart, I wish we had a possible date of when bidding will be up.
What is T5?
@lean sparrow Illuvium Land collection seems to be down
I was wondering if it was only me. TokenTrove looks down
It's the only place I can easily see if my neighbors are selling lol
Yeah immutablex is working fine
Doing the T5 sale once the game is on hype overload when the game is fully launched would bring in most revenue imho
Literally had the same experience. I was singing along be the end 😆
Yup thanks! We're working on a fix. Should be out in a few mins! Thanks for the tag
it is the Highest tier of land with the most fuel and an Arena landmark to host Tournaments.only 5 of them
5 you say 👀
think is 7 but googling right now 😉
i Garfed it,takes a little bit longer but is worth it.
garfing is good too
looking thru iip
Doing gods work buddy
seven in total
i miss the excitement of the landsale
so good
damn i skipped text in pursue of numb 7 or 5 xD
dont want another one,because heavy bag😆
just sell them and scam fraggy to rent you kierans T4 xD
That will be a struggle for her,unles Polemos pulls through with the Rental system for the alpha.
the worst case scenario, she proven us she own fast fingers and short respond time, that may be be enough for managing like 700-1200 lands ^^
Best case,she cant manage them all and more Bp for the rest😆
BP are such a mystery tho
I don't believe you'd need to "scam" Fraggy in any way though... she has been seeking people who want to play on those land plots 😄
all i know is,i want as many as i can get my hands on and just hoard them,they look absolutely sick.
will you get at least one per like 6 months of gameplay or maybe 50 of them ^^
will you have enough resources on T1 to even consider making one
T3s and Silv will get me there
i would have to, i'm not her favorite person in the world 😂
those whales...
Buttttt if you help her by working on some of those plots, then you may become one of her favorite people 
sure, but after scamming, time frames are very important here
fraggy hates me >> scamming event >> fraggy hates me less
Fraggy, like the rest of us, despises scammers though
well, nobody planning to scam anyone, just conversation went weird way
Lars sits on land with nice view and i'm good with what i have ^^
Hahah true true. I was just trying to see how this hypothetical situation played out but I think I got lost along the way 😅
Thank you for the clarification at the end though... no bans!
after this comment i feel like i just dodged a bullet 😂
is this code for ILZ mid september??
@onyx cosmos hard refresh and lmk if it's still broken
he said WEN
BAN HIM INSTEAD OF ME!! 😈
Hey peeps. Didn't have time to follow for the past couple days. Were there any updates for IZ alpha after aiming for september from a couple weeks ago?
We say wen they say soon
Hey LaKy! No updates from the team yet.
September is still the goal, as far as I know... but that goal could very well be Sept 30 🙂
So just waiting on more updates as the month goes on!
Still broken. On IE and did InPrivate browser just to double-check
So if 3.5k land plots are played during alpha and it 1000 BP’s. How much land is need to have a 10% of getting one. I’m thinking?
One T3, two T2 and three T1’s
lol you are using internet explorer? and what exactly isn't working. It seems fine on mine
Is it working for you?
not working for me
They found the issue. Says they're working on a fix 🙂
sorry i'm getting so many pings lately from random servers gotta start muting them all 😅
Done! ✅
😂me and @copper inlet put all our brainpower together and figured it out(well I did)
I saw, well done ^^
Sometimes I can't wait for pvp in illuvium 😑
Working now! 
Is there really only 6 T4's for sale, in total? Or is that just my browser?
I believe that is all that are listed as of now. IMX just updated their royalties which led to all of the land getting delisted today. So I'm guessing not everyone has checked in to re-list their land just yet.
I think that this community underestimates the value of lower tier lands. I think in the distant future I think the lowest tier lands are going to be worth alot more than people think. Not only will they block larger land groupings from forming, but they will have the same chance of generating blueprints as higher tier lands. At least that is my understanding.
Pardon my English.
no
in general, T1 is gonna be the floor
Floor nft is more volatile
the price of T2 is gonna follow T1 but T2 will have a stronger price to volatility
in fact T2 is the most efficient in price to fuel ratio
Floor nft is always be the "paperhands" nft
damn, i got busted, was hoping you not scrolling up so far 😂
Sales channel for Land sales?
yea but it's not automated, lots of nft projects have an automated sales channel
oh, i guess that would be something fun to check from time to time
There is a land bot on twitter ppl follow
@Illuviumlands
link? im wanna follow
Thanks Artemis 
Cant wait to play on my lands. Its gonna be lots of fun to configure the plots to be super effective and efficient.
I wonder what blueprints will be available in the alpha. It sounds like there were exclusive skins/blueprints for alpha land owners just during the alpha period
GM everyone!
Are there some additional news about the release in September?
Still can't believe that this will be happening in September but who knows sometimes miracles happen.
Are you guys moving your plots and Mega cities to play with out a ledger or will you never move them away from a ledger account?
During land sale I had problems with the ledger to be quick enough and finally shifted funds because I lost some plots because of it.
Any one experienced something similar?
I will always use my ledger. Too scared to do anything else. If it’s not supported (I have high conviction it will be, don’t see any reason why not), I will probably sell and buy $ILV instead
they are confident for septembre... but nothing official.
Everything can change
There is no official launch date announced, just a goal... I'm afraid if we don't hear any news in 2 weeks, it won't be ready this month. Marketing usually wants 2 weeks time to hype
yes I can understand very well, I also hope it's supported but not for every transaction in game!
I lost a lot of Iota back in the 2017 hack when they hacked the seed generator. Never again but you need to learn the hard way if you make stupid actions haha!
I know. I never take any dates for granted.
I used to play ark survival if you know Wildcard nothing ever can shock you anymore.
They announced fixed dates and you have been waiting until launch for many months even some crazy guys took holidays and finally they shifted the dates for several months couple of days before the announced release date haha!
Still was a great game, this is what is important in the end!
Would the alpha even need hyping? All the land is sold to us, there's no one new to advertise ILZ to on a major scale
Pretty sure they will want to advertise if when they launch a game
Hi is there any online interactive map of lands? Except on illuvium.io?
tokentrove
nice thanks 😉
it only shows details on lands for sale though
did they for pb1?
I think so, I’m not sure. I’m getting old
i am old
Yup
oh i just remember
they did some paid promotion
with brycent
and cagy
invited streamers
and paul barron too
ahhh
okay
Most thing you complain about that they didn’t do, they actually did
i complained about pb1?
like?
yea we old
they did an 1 million $ event.... Kieran won and the prize has been distributed to the team 🙂
but nothing with Andrew
In my head, I’ve basically written off my land purchases. They are at ILLUVIUM ZERO 😂 this way I’ve gone through the grief process and I’ve accepted the loss..
I feel lighter, less stressed, and more optimistic.
Worth a try
If they succeed, it’ll be an even greater feeling 🥰
Haha good plan
damnn
seriously?
why so dark man
i still have hope
maybe because i minted using silv2
This is an easy come up for us since we were here in the beginning. This game is hands down better then any other Web3 game and is better then some Web2 AAA games. Shit its easily going to hit big and at the latest next bull-run.
The longer it takes the better for early investors since it gives us more time to buy up! even though the wait is killing us 🤣
Micro transactions everywhere
Did they initiate the new IMX contract? I'm not seeing as many listings as before.
Yes
I think it’s around the bottom for land especially if IZ alpha come out this month but I think the market will be coming down around 25-30% before we bottom out but as long as we keep on buying and averaging down will be good!💸
timing launch is dangerous
october is coming sooooon
cant wait, September have been a disaster so far.
Yeah and then november then december then 2023 😂
then 2069
And then Full game
True that 😂
are 2 t2 plots gonna be enough to provide me with my own fuels to play the game comfortably?
2/2/2 solon/krypton/hyperion
Nothing is for sure until the game is released. They mentioned they want to make the game fair for all types. It maybe more lucrative to have more of some elements/fuels depending on your strategy.
Regarding fuel you won’t be able to take any of your fuel into the overworld you will have to sell it all then rebuy it on your character
Fuel will fluctuate 25% either way from its pegged price so if one fuel (a) is -25% and another is +25% (b) then b will be 5/3 more valuable. If plot x produces all of fuel b then it’s the most advantageous to have plot x rather then plot y with an even split of resources
In my opinion
It was mentioned several Times that there won't be a super fuel which is always +25% and a low fiel which is always -25%. Sure there will be times a fuel Spikes, but in General they should be equally balanced
How you calculated your + 5/3 value?
125/75
Not totally sober... But it makes no sense to me 😂
If fuel cost 100 units and one was (b) +25% and another was (a) - 25% then b would be 125 units and a would be 75 units simplified into 5/3 or 1.66 repeating of course
And there will always be people messing with the market that goes against the games original design… just look into the monkey nut speculation in RuneScape
Oh there will be people gaming the system. If it happens in games where you don't make any money at all, you can be certain it will happen here. Let's just hope it happens early so we can fix it.
Gaming p2e games was actually one guy's bear case for the whole metaverse. So dumb. We're crazy early boys and girls.
Last o heard game was 95% done
Doesn't that make it 66% more valuable? 🤔
Don't know that one... Isn't it Like 20years old?
Game has to be out this month
Tranquillo boy...
Yes
What happens if you sell build land, progress is lost?
No, you sell with the progress
Awesome did not know this
I believe so… only a fraction of the total players will have land plots so even tier 1 should be enough for a single player
interesting how it can effect the price 🥸
any news on this game?
It just hit September give them a week or two, most likely it would be at the end of the month
Blueprints from land is based on region ? for example, taiga boreal skin kukka beacause of region
You have a higher likelihood for a skin if the Illuvial is 'native' to the area, but technically you can get any blueprint from any land, cross regional discoveries will just be extremally rare.
higher/lower chance
Is the alpha out yet? Or an eta?
Just saying Wednesday is a good day for various reasons 😄
Sept 31 zero release 🥹
It’s possible that a t1 could pay for your in-game costs, but I wouldn’t count on it.
which element you ppl think is the most valuable - Hydrogen/Carbon/Silicon? And therefore which to look out the most out in lands
carbon and silicon
how do you come to that conclusion? Building costs on fanpages?
carbon for buildings
silicon for research
but im sure it will all be balanced out
what's hydrogen for
i only have 3 lakes
among 4 plots
but i have way too much the other two
hydrogen is energy, maybe for extraction?
Or building bombs?
sup with the bombs man
maybe the battery building? dunno what it does but i'm guessing some kind of boosting the surrounding building's efficiency orso 🤷 that's what i would do with "increased power/energy"
Fuels (3). Solon - forging equipment… Hyperion - shards and capturing Illuvials… crypton travel and teleportation… elements (3) hydrogen- energy production building construction… carbon - industrial and extraction and building construction… silicon- research and tech building construction…
I got 13 carbon sites on my megacity. I'll cause global warming in Illuvium
you'll need hydrogen in some amount for 2/3 of the buildings
I can sell you some CO2 certificates, which will allow you to use those carbon sites. Just for few ETH it is possible! 🙂
@left musk
The team fully understands and has heard the community on this. IZ is absolutely one of the top priorities. When lining up with Land sale, the true intention was to release them close together as publicly stated. The Alpha build is live internally and there is nothing more that we would like, than to close this loop with the community and give Land holders access to IZ Alpha. There are a few different reasons for the delay on that product, but know that the team is working to finalise everything with IZ Alpha ASAP.
Ty for answering serious and not with a stupid meme i dont ask everyday when but you need to understand that its not always funny to make fun of the community which put their savings on the line
HOW DARE YOU CALL THIS MEME STUPID
@left musk jsut so you are fully aware .
That was an estimate not a "released date" there has never been any specific date when it was "supposed" to come out estimates can change.
Its been said that the team is "aiming" to get #🎮〕illuvium-zero Alpha version out sometime in September but you will need to be a landowner to play
If your talking about "LIVE" IZ will be in beta mode till overworld is ready to go LIVE. No estimate when Overworld will go live as it has not even entered any form of beta yet .
( #🎮〕illuvium-zero r and Illuvium Overworld will go live at the same time No earning till Live and all #🎮〕illuvium-zero progress will be reset before
100% I definitely understand the frustration; especially during the bear market when people may be in the red and tensions are high. While some people may make memes or jokes, it's because they get asked the same questions 20x a day. The mods or other team members may not be in a position to be able to answer with much detail, hence their answer "soon." When it comes to things like this, CCs like @whole spear , @carmine ferry or myself (and obviously admin), can usually give a bit more context or explanation.
If you, or anyone else in the community, have questions that you don't feel have been addressed please feel free to ping me in the chat. If I don't have an answer for you straight away I'll find it.
Could we get the Johnny updates back? 🙃
does it take a while for funds to appear in immutable x? i just transferred from ethereum to imx and its not there even tho confirmed
Yea 20-30
ah 20 to 30 min? whew i thought i lost it there
Yea give it a min transfer from l1 to l2 takes a bit once it’s on there it’s quick tho
thanks it finally appeared and i bought my first land
yay!
Congrats, which region you decided to settle down?
You have coordinates, just Look for it on the map
do you know where i can find the map actually? ive seen it on youtube, but i dont have website
Official Website of illuvium Make sure you Check Filters, they show just t5 by default
Token trove is my favorite for that
Go to exchange...(off the top of my head), Land, go to land sale for the map.
Then the lands wont show up as you have to remove the filter settings top right.
thank you! can you input coordinates there?
Youd have to go to a land, press on it and the URL at the top will change.
From there you can fill in your own coordinates in the URL and reload that.
But each time you do, it will reset the filter so it is really very wonky.
Tokentrove may just be easier to use.
whats tokentrove?
Tokentrove gives an overview of all the lands on the map as well.
Maybe it is just a different UI/project that creates transactions for the marketplace. Has its own fees and is separate from Illuvium and Immutable.
Someone explain better if can xD
ah
i bought a tier 2 with 2 hyperion and 1 crypton
i know hyperion was like pokeballs to capture skins, and crypton to move
Congratz
i posted few questions and pinged johnny and khaleed
do you think you can pass those questions to them?
is there a plan to give an update about iz alpha?
With how busy he is, probably not. But that doesn't mean we can't do something similar. I'll look into it
If you send your question to our support inbox they'll reach me and I'll be happy to forward them on or get an answer. Support@illuvium.io
What kind of an update are you after? If it's "when" I can't say, if it's more along the lines of what's been built and what will be available in the alpha then yes.
Im curious. I dont know anything about it. Can we play with a controller on pc?
Native controller support isn't planned for the initial launch but it is a possibility down the track.
@carmine ferry what does that mean ? Alpha build is live internally? So its playable ?
i think he will be happy to see any kind of update for IZ since there hasnt been any word lately
and that's literally what he said
of course if you can answer his questions, he will be thrilled
Yes, there is a playable build available internally for IZ which is what the team are currently building off of
Nice, thats good i think 😊
There is an internal version. Rich was asking if he could stream it for us but didn't had green light
If the community wants to see a live demo before we launch the Alpha then we may be able to arrange it. Let's get some reacts on this post to help show the interest and I'll help Rich push for a green light. Maybe we can show it off in Kukkas Cave
Of course we want
the questions are technical, about IZ gameplay, and id like people to read the answers too
yea i remember we were having bi weekly update on progress
Send them through, I'll get answers and we can post it somewhere visible. Probably via medium.
Demo version will be ok, no?
i am expecting an alpha
u know how raw alpha is
Shitty graphic and buggy gameplay
i actually looking forward to that
I'm waiting on Hogwarts Legacy, Mortal Rite, and Illuvium, so I feel your pain.
It was supposed to be like that if was released after land sale, now it has to be polished 😉
yea theres a certain "pride" to play an alpha version of a game
We could definitely have launched some shovelware earlier, the delay has been to provide an Alpha that's actually worthy of the Illuvium fans.
maybe we can start calling it beta
Ok y'all I'm logging off. The more reacts we get on that post the easier it will be for me to twist some arms. Email through any big questions you've got and for anything that needs a quick response please keep pinging me.
Thanks, but we're really not that discerning. We'll play anything.
What a question... 😄
And keep all the collected recourses?😂😂
I believe we're committed to a fair launch, any alpha or beta gameplay will only be gameplay. We're all starting from 0 on full launch..... as much as I'd like a leg up on the competition
I know. Think we just need to play alpha thats all.
Anyone know how the game will be delivered? App or just mobile site?
hogwarts looks good
nobody does
You can already pre purchase Hogwarts while I can't get my hands on ILZ yet sed...
First launch will be WebGL, which can also be accessed on mobile
This is an alpha - you're not getting from Apple/Android store just yet
been mentioned a few times, but prob not everyone heard
Not yet; my focus on the moment is on other products
Thanks man!
Also I think as we get closer to launch, we should start organizing some sort of community events around IZ to push the organic growth and interest.
Maybe we can do a competition or something, or set up a channel for IZ TIPS/TRICKS.
Maybe some twitter raids. Anything to help get the word out
We have some marketing materials planned and all land owners will be able to play in the Alpha so we're definitely excited to engage with the community on this.
Rich said he was 90% sure its gonna be mobile
#💬〕general message
He said he used bluestack
@vapid bough will there be 0 tried land for non-landowners to jump in and try the game?
commonly known to emulate android apps
Hmm... last I saw was webGL, but I could be out of the loop. I know Rich has actually been testing the internal build, so he would know better. Let's ask. @whole spear can you confirm?
ok thanks lucius
I believe Alpha will be for land holders only.
So it won't be a downloadable application on mobile?
Cool! Marketing is always good! I’m excited to see a trailer - y’all love your teaser trailers.., and so do we
Alpha won't be in app store - we'll have a direct download
.apk doesnt need googleplay
Cool! Land isn’t relatively cheap for those who want to get in so that’s cool 🙂
It doesn't have to be app store, just downloadable apk file I meant
just make sure its a clean device
pb1 gathered some info
i bought an ipad just for this
it's still in the box, waiting, patiently
You can open it next year
What’s up
I used blue stacks yes
can someone clarify....when the alpha version of Illuvium Zero will be released, will it be possible to make money on game by landowners? or will it only be possible when the game is fully released?
landowners will be able to scan blueprints while the FUEL mechanic is not implemented (because it needs the main game) but it was not said if the blueprints will be able to be traded soon in Alpha
thx
Wen
Its September gimme announcement pls
soon
When is the Australian crypto event thing
i feel you
Repeat after me
O C T O B E R
wen illuvitars?
2023?
3023
nevaaaa
sept. 17-18 for Aus gold coast crypto con
Calling it, zero alpha announced there?
👀
Called
No IZ announcement - someone specifically asked when the crypto conference is. There will be pc stations setup there for people to play latest Arena and an NFT sweepstakes at the conference tho.
Who would have thought AUS would be the hub for Web3 gaming 🤯
Holy smokes that's awesome! Meet the team AND get to try PB2 as well 🤯😍
I’m sooo excited. I leave for Aussie in 6 days.
Is this cute or badass... Can't decide
Shardbluff is going to be lit
Shardbluff Labyrinth (738,273) something nasty about to happen 🔥
are you taking it down
Gonna be me soon
september is not even official
Dicks Adventures Down Under. Sounds like it might be better than Crocodile Dundee
Im going need to get a massive yard crew once alpha finally launches grass is already 6 foot tall
hopefully no squatters
Damn, i was gonna enslave em and make em work the land.
my money is no IZ untill after Eth merge so after 20th Spt or maybe a bit earlier if Eth get the poop togther
why lord
iz gonna run on L2 right ?
i believe so... everything on immutable x
Outside of the team, are the people attending crypto con going to be the first to play PB2?
Early access to try out would pb2 will be a nice treat for event attendees if it's done on time.
Can't wait! 👍
Happy Sunday, folks. Could anyone lend a hand getting me up to date on what elements/sites/landmarks are sought after for Tier 3 ILV Land atm? Or is it just location-based pricing? It's been a while since I've looked!
dang, I actually wrote in #💬〕general about IZ instead of here 🤦
crypton
a well balanced fuel and element is the most sought after
anyways, my gut feel is: "if not October then Next Year" 
there are still nov and dec man
Thank you. Time to deep dive, I guess...
I look at development quarterly, not monthly, and I believe they do stuff on a sprint basis (i.e. bi-monthly)
it also reduces the stress of thinking, a great excuse to avoid frustration :))
Been away for a while. During the land sale, I called September.
Anyone thinking October/November is more likely?
Any discussion about "how close"?
Itll be after or during cryptocon mid Sept
not sure about IZ though
Gotcha thanks!
anyone have the % somewhere of chance of certain illuvials per region?
regarding the blueprints and catch rate
thats the one, thanks!
no problem
Or
Two weeks after landsale?
no, landsale was before
4-8 weeks
xD
nothing ever for sale in northern Taigi
hw many listed?
just use token trove and look at all available
then can filter by Tier etc if you want
scroll over thumbnail on the right and pops up the tooltip to show you at a glance
In Shardbluff I think its connected to being the highest point in Illuvium
i think most people doesnt relist
yeah lots didnt but even before then noone listed in North Taiga
and dragons like those high mountain lairs
uve been watching the whole time?
Delisted mine to... Too cheap atm
better to delist
maybe I need a hobby
ur like google street for IZ
Okay.... You pay premium to be there?
I mean, on the map everything is flat anyways
its the lore
And isn't highest point in illuvium brightland, with it's flying mountains?
You can clearly see the mountain in the north on both illuvidex and tokentrove
I'm pretty sure they said it was highest but its also higher for Fire Illuvials
so that combination..
Once zero comes out I’ll have a game I actually want to play on my phone so that will be interesting
Never heared that... Did Miss a leak vid 👀
It was one of Andrew's streams maybe that older one with Roger before the land sale about the region artwork
I can't remember for sure though
Where rogier was painting the snail?
no different
😯 didn't saw that
it's called All Illuvium Regions Explored (+ IlluviDEX Land Preview) -- Illuvium Insider
I'm not sure if this was where they talked about it but good regardless
1:07:16
Do aussies have labor day holiday?
we have labour day but different for each state
building …
construction complete …

hey, what is the best deal on the lands?
the team is shooting for Alpha in September
When illuvium zero released. Can we rent them from the owner?
hopefully that is ready by full release
so what would u say its the best tier 1 land?
Mmh... If it would be ready for September, they would show that too, and not just pb2 at the cryptocon.
Honestly... Didn't do the numbers since delisting of imx.
I look for remote Tier 1
what do u mean delisting? i can find it in imx
remote? what is that
just ones not in the industrial clumps of land
oh, which is where?
depends on the region if you scroll around you can find some nice quiet areas to pitch your tent until you can build some buildings
depends on your strategy though..
shoot
dm?
can just chat openly, lots of different opinions here
so people jump in and add info
if you read the pinned messages on this channel you can see the whole history of announcement's from the team
they are shooting for September alpha but nothing certain
yeah , ive read almost everything but not everytinhg, the medium also
i am shooting for a tier 1, but not sure what elements should i choose
we can buy from imx and token trove appart of illuvidex
most people looking for 1 of each element in a tier one if that is all you are gettiing
correct?
correct
illuvidex, tokentrove, imx
tier 1 with 1 of each element usually priced above the floor though
but if you watch you can often get one close to floor
yeah if you have budget for more then you can balance elements or fuels across multiple plots that you get
but if it's only one id look for 1 of each elements
then you know it will be easy too resell as well if need be
didnt have the time to check properly, do we have accurate info on every element and fuel?
alpha is just referring too Zero in this case
which zero is just the mobile game?
they have Private Beta 2 for the autobattler , then openworld beta and illuvitars at some point
when will we be able to utilise the lands?
Been asking for 3 months and they afraid to say a timeline
well using the lands in alpha we can keep blueprints apparently but wont be able to sell fuel until main game launches
And when is that?
that is the question
Soon
Anything is mobile if you pick it up and run with it
hahaha
Wow what happen went from 14% to 2% listed
I'm about to average down
I got funds to either buy 17 tier 1's or 7 tier 2's
What are your thoughts?
id go T2 all the way, nice value on those right now
Staking, revdis, councilvote
so its mostly eth
Is this a question?
yeah
All landplots got removed from official secondary market 2 or 3 days ago, because of a change in fees.
Then i'm afraid, i don't know what you actually asking 😂
People listed them again
think i got lucky during land sale on balanceing
Which transactions?
land etc, we will be using eth
oh yea i forgot about the change in fees causing a delisting
what did they change ? didn thave the time to check
trading fee think lowered so would be inline with token trove etc
how i get whale reacts on lvl 2 and lvl 1 lol
is it due to the balance of the t2 lol
oh u mean the oficial market
2 landplots... You are in the top 40%
ohhhh ok so if i get 3 cause been debating for awhile at a 3rd lol
Why not 🙃
where do you check that?
The Land game is called illuvium: Zero
Overworld is connected to the other parts of illuvium, but it's not the Same game
I did a list a while ago, you can Check some stuff in immutascan
i have it in my mind as a whole tbh, so zero is the land game, which the actual game is what?
then there is arena, which we play , okay, and overworld, is about? catching illuvials
Illuvium: Zero = landgame
Overworld = singleolayer for catching illuvials and enjoy the Lore
And then thers the autobattler pvp/pve
yeah but zero is close to iluvials as u scan dna, so u ll be using that in the other games
its a whole game in my mind ;P
If you own a t1-5 you can Scan for bp which you can do skins from. Skins are for Mozart and the Ranger. You can also produced fuel, which you can sell the dao. People who play Overworld have to buy fuel for travelling and produced shards for catching illuvials
There are 2 different games comming out
#🎮〕illuvium-zero a mobile phone mini game <------- this is what the land is for and only place its used.
Only landowner earn . All ftp just play for fun no earning at all ( land is limited to only 100,000 plots - so 100 000- or less earning players)
Illuvium: Overworld &Arena ** - the main PC/Mac game - no mobile / no land
Iilluvium: Overworld & Arena the main game is ** not a pure FTP game. there is a FTP area called T0 . however to access T1- T5 there will be recurring travel and equipment fees . The official and specific prices and economics are not yet known
Illuvium: Overworld is built as a Single Player game like Witcher Mass effect Dragon Age ( personally i think that is awesome myself ) With 2 PVP arenas which are the only place you will see other players when the game launches. Everyone starts out in the T0 area FTP with 0 Illuvials but if you want to progress in the game you will need build a team of T0 illuvials and then to travel to the T1-T5 areas which have recurring travel and equipment costs its been said the economics is going to be more of a MTG/Pokémon trading card experience.
Every time you interact with T-1 -T5 areas ( with varying prices depending on rarity) there will be both fuel and equipment costs . it been said a run could take apox 1 hour. So if you wanted to do 10 runs in T1-T5 area, you would have pay 10x fuel & equipment cost just like you would have to pay for 10 packs of cards
None of the specific economic on pricing it self, times or anything else has been spoken of.
However The next year or two will probably be spend on Illuvium: Overworld & Arena/ #🎮〕illuvium-zero mobile mini game - perhaps other products not offically mentioend
Don't think the Games you compare to Overworld are comparable. You can do Way more different Stuff in these....
Got it confirmed you can see other players in sanctum mesa?
No you will see no one else at launch.
There are plans for sometime in the future Aaron has mentioned turning it into more of a mmo/ co op environment but that is not how it will before the foreseeable future..
As stated i am happy with it starting as a single player.
Yea i know
and zero will be up in september? and land owned will be able to earn?
That was an estimate not a "released date" there has never been any specific date when it was "supposed" to come out estimates can change.
Its been said that the team is "aiming" to get #🎮〕illuvium-zero Alpha version out sometime in September but you will need to be a landowner to play
If your talking about "LIVE" IZ will be in beta mode till overworld is ready to go LIVE. No estimate when Overworld will go live as it has not even entered any form of beta yet .
( #🎮〕illuvium-zero r and Illuvium Overworld will go live at the same time No earning till Live and all #🎮〕illuvium-zero progress will be reset before
Date unknown. Will be announced in #📣〕announcements
No, everything will be erased when game official launches, except for blueprints which you can keep. You are not able to sell the fuel before launch
so u can earn in beta zero, but u will ble able to actuall cash out when the oficial game comes
alpha zero*
No at most you will be ableto keep " blueprints" but its not known ifthey will be sellable right away
blueprints wont be nfts?
yes but not known if they will be on chain and sellable right away
so u can earn nfts in alpha zero that will be able to be sold later
so it makes sense to buy land so u can play on alpha
That only you can decide
Again you have to DYOR and decided if it it will be in your personal plan I personally have none There are some that have hundreds of land its a personal decision only you can make for yourself
Yes
@spice karma Here is a link (written by me) to get a full picture on how land owner revenue will work (does not include blue prints)
NFA DYOR
thanks a lot
getting four T2 or 1 T3?..anyone suggestion//
anyone selling tier3 @wicked heath00
depends
can u elaborate plz
if you want to be in multiple region, buy T1s
oh
if you are okay with one region, go for a T2
do you how region works
different region has different chance of encountering illuvials
this is not passive income man
ya i have learned a little..
differnt region means i have to manage 4 times than t2 right
first you have to decided which illuvials would u like to discover
in 1 region i have to play just 20-30 min a day
right now deciding which illivial is not a strategy
and i like atlas too, so i have few in halycon sea
well the value of blueprints is related to the illuvials
as you can see, crimson waste is the most sought after
because of ramphyre
a T2 then
T2 is the most efficient cost to fuel ratio
i love T2s
they team had balance a thing.....i dont think the region make a difference..........
its the game where demand will tell
region makes a different man
fuel and elements will be balanced
but not affinities
yes but its not you and i to decide.its the gameplay that decides
generally people like
- Fire
- Water
they are the most favorite among male gamers
and the plot price agrees with this
the more people in fire and water means less earning also.....as there are many people
crystal shore fp is no.2 after crimson, because it has a well balanced chance of affinities
T3 and T4 are best for a megacity
no matter any region but balance element and fuel
sure
i am eying for @wicked heath00 lol
per tier 3
last thing
do u know the min presale for tier 3
min price that bought tier 3 in dutch aution
@brisk plume did a sheet on that man
its pinned
its gone
someone took it down for some reason
you can ask him
we dnt even know each other man
any rough idea
oh\
vaguely remember
waiting for a floor price to drop
?
waiting for the offer function
do i need to be a gamer or not for playing in land
i think the land owner have to do things like building struture...extract like that
not a core game i think
becaise i am bad at playing
this is a solo game
alpha is the perfect time to practice
and you are not competing with anyone
when will alpha be out
just own one and ur in
no one has ever played the game
yea sure man
im here everyday
18hours a day
haha
i just held few ILV.......
not sure to buy t3 or ilv token
if i buy land the n definately the tier 3
otherwise buy ILV token and stake
yes
you will FOMO when everyone is playing IZ lol
ya that might be true also......
waiting for further more dip 3500 is my target for tier 3
do you also own land in axie ?
2.8 last time I checked. Should be around that
Not if you bought with sILV2. That should compensate a bit
Just wanted to say that lol
how much you pay for t2
im really surprise people paperhanding IZ
Not many have bought to flip for profit though. Curious to know how much lands will generate through fuel
You are not new to NFTs come on 😄
About $1600 i think
ok
IZ held up really well for awhile
it was like stable coin
i think floor price will rise once alpha is out
Indeed. Can go back up easy. Ppl just need to know how much they can make by playing 30 mins/day.
theres no way of knowing that rn
Sure there is. You play 30 mins/day and know how much you made that specific day
after its on the block chain lol
if people play ilv then we can sell fuel....if not then disaster
But thats like in a year lol
You sell fuel to the balancer pool. The DAO makes most of the fuel so there is always a balance
i think axie had done a good thing like staking land and earning some axs till waiting
Well, gotta have patience to get that pretty passive income 🤷♂️ I'm hoping for the “pretty” part haha
but i believe in ilv more than axs
i think team are doing staking too till game release
@wary notch when sweep
Tanking is not always a bad thing. Creates opportunities
arash, im crying rn

That's gonna be a mis-opportunity lol
if BTC drops below 19 then wow......
19 is not scary at all
Cant believe i bought the top
Bought the top or minted the top or both?
below 19 is all the way down to 15k
minted the top is way worse
That's still not scary for someone with a long-term plan tbh
when polemos sweep
ya i am also here for long term.....but market scenario like this .....just watch and wait for oppurunity.......i am eying for 50$ ilv and tier 3 @wicked heath00 lol
Well minting happened with sILV2 and if you had bought the right price, then you shouldn't be in THAT big of a loss. Idk about higher tiers though
lol 707 is not enough?
bring us back to 0.5 fp please
For T2? 👀

I believe many are haha
Why? 😄
im into degen flip, and many times big holders manipulate the listing
keep undercutting
and drive people to capitulate
Max payne
If sth can get manipulated so easy, shourting it is literally a gamble tbh
jag sell t2 and buy bcqk when fp is 0.4
haha
That's how manipulation works. You just throw it in ppl’s minds and they make it happen unless they had entered the market not with every single coin they had saved up
i have seen many times, whales pump price, dump it, undercut it, accumulate, then pump it back up
and they send fudders to discord as well
works everytime
nft is the best to manipulate, very low supply
This is something flippers take into account and HODLers ignore. lol
True
which land you own aarsh
All the land
A couple T1s here and there 🤣 just for the sake of not having missed out haha.
“Our” 
only tier 1....
i just need that offer function
And 2
dnt really want to buy random plots
Offer function gonna be nice
T1s are best for bp farming, but u need higher tiers to supply elements and fuels
can we sell fuel in alpha also
Fuel will be supply-able since it is an ERC20. But elements are still a struggle because they could remain off-chain.
If they want to add Fuel fees to element transfers it will vecone complicated 😄
oh i meant supply fuels and elements to the T1s
to do scanning and an upgrade the research tree
Yes and im saying that it might remain impossible to send elements from one land to another unless it is in a megacity 🙂
(For a while)
ohhhhhhhh
lol
sorry
it is?
element is the most important thing to transfer
we havent heard from the team in awhile
but im pretty sure both fuel and element are transferable
Yes they will likely make it so 👍
But Fuel might be first and elements could come second in transferability due to the lack of blockchain parts around elements
it shouldnt be the case since fuel and element in IZ is just server data
fuel is only minted when u sell it to the balancer pool
@hearty cradle how many plots do you have left?
I actually think elements are not transferrable. In cases in which you're missing an element in your plot, you have to build a building that converts one to another.
However strictly speaking moving elements around without having them on blockchain is web2, which is really straightforward.
So it might be a design decision not to allow it. To make some plots worth more than others. Not having to build an exchange building. Not having to bother with it. Not losing elements in the conversion process, etc.
about half
There were rumours you could pay a small fee to transfer elements between plots with a potential benefit of adjacent plots being you wouldn't have to pay any fee
its confirmed
are you gonna be able to manage them by yourself lol
does anyone know how to move their land from one wallet to another?
i have one land on metamask and one on gamestop wallet, want to move the metamask one to gme
Just use the transfer function on the Illuvidex
where is that function, dont see it on the site
is there also a way to use your ledgerx somehow for this?
not for the trasnfer i mean, but for storing
i have plenty of time

I currently have all my land on my ledger nano x, I added it as a hardware wallet to the GameStop wallet and it works all good for me
😂 you are right
Child labor is always an option too just saying
Also, you could give your wife a 3rd job
This feature is coming soon in the IlluviDex V2 release @desert pilot
Pretty sure it's already there for quite some weeks
when you go to your plot when logged in with a wallet, there is an arrow
Yeah, just went back and double checked, that's correct, was added in the latest patch. V2 brings more updates
and you just put in the address where you send it to, sign and done
What about that ?
@whole spear and I have proposed it internally. Give us a while to twist some arms and we'll let you know when we have news.

Nice, thanx 😉
The reacts definitely helped our case, keep them coming y'all
i wan nothing but that
yes, give us a real demo like the real world gameplay UE5 where they run around halcyon sea and sanctum!
your thinking Overworld not #🎮〕illuvium-zero
there is no runing aound inn iZ
i was talking about them running around the other demo of overworld
and to do the same for iz, showing the real time gameplay
that is just putting buildings on a plot not runing around
you dense mate :D?
im notthe one talking about running around in iz
they said at the beginning it would take around 20 minutes a day to get your plot up and running, show a full cycle of that
nobody is talking about running around in iz man
learn to read
original: yes, give us a real demo like the real world gameplay UE5 where they run around halcyon sea and sanctum!
explained for the people not burdened by intelligence: yes, give us a real demo OF IZ (like we got a real demo of overworld gameplay UE5 where they run around halcyon sea and sanctum!)
really ...drops mic ...
lol never mind, too tiresome to argue with people with room temperature iq
you must talkto yourself alot and get frustrated
its ok man, maybe english isnt your first or second language, i wont judge
LOL wow your really badat being a troll lol
you cant be serious, im a leeeeeroy jenkinks level troll
i got muted the last time i said something like this to solar
yeah, lots of powerhungry kids with small ego's
abusing their power, making them feel strong
really? even tho it was justified?
yea
was it fraggy who muted you?
just never pick on ILV strong supporter
yes
i said
solar is immune to l.g.c
bam muted
oh well... then it says nothing 😄
what does lgc mean?
logic
what is i.g.c
then i edited and changed to FUD
😄
that's love dude 😛
Must’ve been hell for you
someone ask when game launch, i answered Q4, and i forgot to put "imo"
bam mute for 24 hours
Where you from Jag? I’ve been lurking for a while and your always here
i dont get the fuss tho, if you read something and you misunderstand, someone clarifies it for you, just say "oh ok, misread" and move on, why make a big deal out of it?
It's not. Please get back on topic.
exactly i correct your Runing around "comment and you started personally attacking me agaisnt the #✍〕rules
i live here
oh no smart ass got muted
Didn’t think renters were live yet
There you go, made sure you aren't a liar.
read it again... i just had school english and even me gets it
lol i get this joke man
You run around in over world -not IZ you build .
he never said that
it was a joke man
whatever the point is it should not have been the object of personal attacks
absolutely
i wanna make complain about solar
where do i go
i dont feel comfortable that he's fudding illuvium zero
he doesnt even have one plot
Got something to say?
nope
people would be asking about land
and he will come and say that token is better
that it's not in the tokenomics
people are trying to buy land here
Didn't you say you are selling?
selling what
your land
yea to buy more
when its lower
i said it so many times
land is the next play
i hate it that i bought the top
could have many more
feel you
i just buy more as long as the prices drop, to average down
and they will drop... still heavily overpriced imo
Hi everyone, any land updates? Haven't seen a useful red Ping for awhile.
anything important would be in #📣〕announcements the info you are looking for is not there then no new info has been offically released you can also check the pined messages at the top for team info posts
i dnt if this is the bottom yet tho
you said you have made some good profits out of NFTs. So, not always it's gonna be good. This to that 🙂
the plots that im still holding has very good location
Got it thanks
With Aaron being back, we may see another Dev blog update here soon so stay tuned! 😄
was it this week he gets back or the other?
Wednesday should be back in Australia
yea man i do degen flipping
and i roll profit to long term hold like IZ
selling IZ plot is not that easy, because you kinda commited to the location right
yeah exactly, so why sell land when you are committed to the location?
i only sold T1s, and mostly the ones in crystal shores
i wan more in crimson waste
and im trying to rebalance my fuel/element
indeed it isn't. Atm you get more fuel per $ with ilv, than with a t1 or t4 ... sooo still plenty of room to the bottom
hunting rhamphy? 😄
I wanted crimson waste, but other lands were cheaper
same
so i ended up in halcyon sea
I think so, something big is coming.
Let's find shelter 😄
That is what people are hoping, nothing official.
Yeah, I was just asking where they think. Looks like the aus con
always
I want them all, yet I don't think I can afford them all, so I can't have them all at all 😄
thats why i do crimson + halycon
both covers all of the affinities
with more chance in fire and water
I woudn't mind other lands as well so I wouldn't get tired of seeing desert and water all the time. need some grass and I don't mean to smoke it
Wherever I can find Atlas 😄 Halcyon I believe haha
Is this tied to the conference in the GC?
Yes
Bugger… might have to fly up…
GM landlords!
pants down! How many plots do you all own?
I've added my 2 cents to try make it happen too guys! Trust me, I want this just as much as you guys do!
We should have asked whether this demo would push back the release date first....
I could have at least 2x land that i have now if i bought them today. Sometimes if i see good deal i want to sell mine to swap but its very hard if u dont list -50$ under floor price
There is a storm coming...
I'm currently sitting on 3 tier 3's
sell me one
offer ur price with details
Everyone is so excited for IZ but i feel like the game will be a little underwhelming. I have high expectations of Overworld but honestly it is hard for me to imagine that IZ will be exciting for more than several days. After that it is gonna be a daily grind, that's all.
Yup
Many city builders are grindy in nature. Doesn’t mean people don’t enjoy them
the big incentive to play iz is the fuel. with none of that i believe its gonna be low in hype
BP will be big I think. And exciting when researching
Idk man... Skins are big in games where you play with other people, so you can flex. Overworld being a single player, don't think skins will hype hard
Cant Decide Wheather To But 1 Btc or 1 tier 4.....lol
Tier 4🥳
hehe .....is Tier 4 worth than 1 BTC.....?
Buy 0.5 bitcoin and invest the rest in land, something about eggs and baskets I dunno
Nah im very happy with mine, wanna keep them for a long time
thanks
Look at axie app, the game was so daily boring, but they had a big big hype so we can imagine a world where IZ will hype illuvium
You'll play pvp in arena.
fudder
skin is the top grossing gaming revenue
I think everyone has some sort of budget for gaming. Explicitly or implicitly. There are some popular games that are free to play, but sell skins. In case of Illuvium it will be a bit split, because the main game requires money, too.
Hey guys if anyone is intrested in registering as a scholar to play IZ you can do it now at the link on my "About me" section.
Note: your data might be shared with the Illuvium team if asked.
What does scholar mean?
IZ thrall
Someone that manages someone else's land plot for a cut of the earnings produced.
farming lands of someone else....
Some people seem to be not dedicated enough to play 100+ plots on their own 😄
I am gonna sell mine and do that if possible 😂😂
Will this be technically supported in some way or how do you plan to organize scholarships?
We should see once the beta starts. For now we are just getting the team needed for managing 200+ land plots.
oof... that is a LOT
It depends what tier lands