#🎮〕illuvium-zero
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As it should be “10”
totally agree friend, kieran's attitude has made many of us take a step back with Illuvium. What a disappointment!
💯 percent feel you on this…. I would usually keep this to myself but I have to talk in here to get beta access “Message #11”
lol. Keep it up. You will get there by the time it is open beta.
Probably not with how they do selections, but I guess “message #12
Yeah, constantly complaining is a solid strategy for being given access. It works in every discord. Just whine non stop and people give you things. 😏
You say complain, I say the truth… either way “Message #13”
Thats the strategies used by my children... 😋
So here’s what I’m say and leave it., it’s hard for me to believe that everyone playing in the PB is a rangers in this discord. I’m sure all 15k of those people don’t own any land. So I invest my money in a game and can’t get PB I ask about it discord and they say, well you don’t talk enough in the discord
This shit is laughable
And then you say I’m complaining
Lol
I own land and have PB access.
I’m sure you do, I’m sure not everyone does tho
Are the specs on your computer decent? I know that was one of the things they are using to get access.
It's just another approach, they wana build up community with help of pb1 access.
End they want that people who are active in cummunity and interested in the whole process of developing give Like a little present
Yup
What about the people that put their money where their mouth is
I don’t feel like I should have to be all talkative to get access to something I invested in from the start
Me Personal i would have loved pb access for every landowner... But what with ilv holders? You need to include them too... Then there are content creators etc ... All in all probably arround 25k people... Now we have arround 15k people with access... How to solve that Problem?
How many wallets hold land maybe 6-7k
Arround 7k i think
If they wanted access yes
But then you have to less access my friend 🙂
Land will get you the IZ Alpha when it releases. It makes sense to me that they want active community members in beta since they want to get high quality feedbakc.
I own a tesla. Elon doesn't let me in his house though.
Ok sooo the rest of us that just follow and invest have to sit back and wait 👌🏽
I mean... Yeah. You didnt buy a beta pass did you?
You could help the Project beeing a Twitter raider, you could be active in discord, informing your self or give some Newcomer some Infos. This would be really appreciated and will get you access to pb1 with Next batch pretty sure
It'll only take you like 10 more messages to get ranger anyways, youre almost there at this point
Yeah I know keep jumping threw hoops, after I already showed commitment
Actually i don't know what that means...
I'm not native english
That’s not the point anymore, honesty prolly just goanna wait till Zero alpha comes out
I get what u are saying
He will get his beta access from from this conversation 😂
Prolly not, I never complain about the game tho only this process
My favorite was one guy saying something like "ive been chatting here for an hour and i'm still not ranger." That was the message that put him over the edge and got him to level 5.
Lol
It’s unnecessary
Did you even read and try to understand what i wrote? 🙃
Yes
Awkay... Well then 🤷🏻
I'm sorry i couldn't help you to understand what could be very good reasons for this approch
The rules are pretty simple. You are a ranger, you get access. Nothing to do with land
I think it is redi have already done twitter raids I’m just saying it’s unnecessary
I have already done twitter raids
Plus being a ranger in here
Plus owning land
How much more I gotta do
What’s next?
Does the list ever end or is it just who they wanna give it too
Owning land isnt a requirement for getting into the private beta. Not sure why you seem to think that it is.
It’s not but it at lest should be foot up on people who don’t invest or anything
hello everyone, i have a question. when people sell their land in the marketplace the floor is generally based off of Eth not dollars right?
I notice right now as the value of ether is going up for the land the $ is the same yet ether value is going down
wondering if this is coincidence or if I misunderstood something.
Message #32
Sooo if you keep complaining you will get access lol
I’m really not complaining at this point I said what I said and I’m just keeping track of my messages “33”
unnecessary spam will not give you access to pb1, rather give you a ban if fraggy take note of it
Fraggy keeps track of messages
You don't need to do that, you can See your Status in your profile for exact Status watch out for #👑〕bot-commands
Ok #35
Changing subject. I have a question is there any advantge to have your elements close in a land like do you need to build road or something?
There are Buildings which can push your sites... In the End there are to less Info to say spreaded is better than close
For some Info on the buildings i can recommend google infoluvial
Ok thanks I check that
They have a ilvz section in their page where you Find the buildings
But yea... not really that many Infos leaked yet... And everything can be change what you See there
Anyone know how we will switch between lands in game?
You can just tab between them in the app. I think itll be one account per wallet so unless you have multiple wallets with land it should be easy to manage.
Cool. That sounds manageable.
Yeah I was just wondering seeing some land with very spreaded resources and some with close ones
Different buildings will have proximity effects on other buildings around them, For example a carbon converter may increase the efficiency of a nearby mine while decreasing the efficiency of a nearby research building. I dont think its been published which buildings affect which and in what way. I do know that the Illuvial scanner will suffer a penalty if its near other buildings.
and there are pathways but im not sure how they work.
Interesting. So better not to have them too close to avoid some penalties i guess.
The more I read about it the more I'm looking forward to play!
I bought land only for Illuvium Zero, Did you get yours land in Arena? 
Idk, I purchased most of my land in the land sale.
Huh, it's frostpunk in my mind after your guess. It begins to be so complex to build the land when you keep in mind all buffs and debuffs for region
and here you should calculate this input really carefully. Pretty sure there is no safe
But you own this land to play Illuvium Zero, Not Arena, am I right?
I don't think these bunch of projects are all interchangable at this moment
I’m probably going to play all aspects of the game TBH
For sure man 🙂 But here I mean contributing in one aspect (land) of illuvium metaverse currently doesn't guarantee access for you in it's every corner 'cause there is no "metaverse" this early stage. This is insane how fast this projects develops, but it's still need time, unfortunately
I honestly glad that Illuvium zero a bit late currently. It's great oportunity at least for me to may be buy one more plot for less then $1000
Yeah I’m Not against that, and I never have complained about delays or anything of that nature, just purely on how people are being selected for these private betas.
My patience runs smoothly until December may be... They better be ready to have lots of people on board
Ah, that one... PB2 had insane reqirements IMO. Only top tier HW can run it. And honestly i'm waiting for them to optimise it before launch... I better buy a land instead on GPU %)
Do you have top shelf PC man?
Yeah I would most definitely think so, just upgrade a couple months ago
If so I think it would be kinda "fair cheeting" to contribute 5-10 emails with different descripsion about how strongly you are wishing for it 🙂
Ah congrats 🙂
PB from enrolling list sound like a lot like lottery so more tickets you buy more chance you have
Or may be that's why they are interested in discord activities...
I singed up for beta is winter may be, but i don't remember the system that could block you from multiple email enterances
hey there, long time no see
have a lot to catch up on, do we have a rought idea of a date for IZ alpha yet ?
No
No you just need to reach lvl 5 in the discord and become a #981427337734266920 and you will get picked next time around
Complexe and you probably gonna have to make some choice like getting a penalty on one bulding in other to boost another thats what make land building fun. Theres not one answer
Ah so i'm right. Antibot feature is actually ingagement in disscutions, great 😄
sadly I rarely think about chating with people, just reading news
That would be great theat my boredome will lead to PB2 %)
Yeah, this is really heavy gameplay I expect. There is no easy choices in life, even in WEB3
Life is tough... lol
Anyone know when zero will launch?
No not at the moment
no date yet, when there is one it will be posted in #📣〕announcements
Question
Is there Land owner role in this discord?
Nah man no land owner role
They are trying to keep the scammers to a minimum
People put this funny lil emoji in their name to show they own land
not sure if this is still the cool kid thing to do or not though
Once scammers know you own land they gonna DM you like crazy
I don't respond to DMs from people so I don't mind
unfortunately, discord doesn't have a function to block members' DMs, it would help a lot
Yeah, the best you can do is disable DMs from server members
wen IZ Alpha
iz
4-8weeks after land sale?
wen is 8 weeks?
I saw in pined message, someone said 4-8weeks after the first landsale
I believe Monday
Ah that’s why all Geminis try to identify themself, I thought about it yesterday
In last Ethlizard AMA, Kieran got a question at the last second about IZ.
Answer was just that Grant isn't happy with the art. So no idea of the status nor timeline out of this answer .....
Sadly Illuvium need to pour resources in other two more ambitious projects, not in a mini game 😦
IZ is far from a mini game at this point
Welll yeah
But I mean it’s concept
Autobattler and arena always positioned itself as larger scale projects
*and overworld
Omg I love it

We need to have highest quality of memetars in our memium community © Andrew
memetars?
memium?
Sound wired 🤭
I would disagree it still is a mini game compared to the scope of overworld, I would still buy ILV over land (NFA DYOR just my opinion)
I want a few peaces of land not for revenue, obviously, just staking ILV is easier and scalable. But I think this is great alternative to other mobile games town builders. Don’t know how it will feel in IZ, but sometimes you need a bit tedious click motion to reboot yourself after workday or long meeting, and town builders are great in delivering this type of thing
Think it depends, T1 or T2 are worth to buy. You invest few and may get blueprints. With larger amounts invested think ilv is better option. Also NFA
It depends on how profitable the fuel can go long term, if you have T3 or T4. Staking rewards are dropping every day so in the fall you might as well forget about over 100% APY on ILV/ETH
But fuel will be generated as long as you hold a land and use it. Today it’s may be 150% vs 0%, but in one-two year cycle it could be 10% APY vs $100 daily
One more thing could be just whales want to redistribute assets for profits later
fe, land is almost didn’t depreciated when we hit lows on ETH, but steadily going up with it’s price
And investors in few years begin to buy land to rant and again, check in coupons afterwards
staking ilv SLP was the better investment considering the wait period of land. but I always loved the city builder games back in the day so bought plots. hopefully we can use soon...
will be usable for beta but IZ will go "live" the same time as overworld does
1.1 billion get your tickets today!
Anyone else just buy land to give the game a go? Lol
Hey y'all, I wrote an obstacle / farming system this week. Don't ask me what the rewards are because I can't give you specific numbers - it's up to the game designers who balance the gameplay and overall economy. The system's in place and working tho 🙂
From the numbers I've been working with it looks quite generous.
👀 tell us a bit more if you want/can. Thanks for the update
The mechanism is that there are 'obstacles' (are they really obstacles though? No! They are food for farming!) - there's a combination of small and large obstacles, once cleared they will regenerate - and you can get the clearing reward. it's farming time! 👨🌾
It's low level farming - but that's okay 😄
That sounds pretty neat! thanks for sharing with us 👨🏾🌾
Nice. Thanks for responding and good work!
You're welcome! Obviously I can't share numbers right now, but it's looking nice and 'low maintenance' as part of the overall economy.
I've got a stack of things to work on over the next week, and I'd be happy to drop by then and let you know what I've been working on. It's interesting stuff 🙂
Take care & chat soon!
Awesome,thank you for sharing🥳
Hwut?
Hes talking about the IZ beta release that corresponds with the main game open beta. IZ will be in alpha before that but you wont be able to earn from fuel and progress will be reset when it shifts into beta.
Any idea what possible farming rewards would be or used for? Thanks for the inside look 
I didn't technically ask what the rewards are just what they "could" be used for lol
there is like a scam site for immuntable x
I searched google and the first site that came up looks the same but is not immutable
Amazing
Would y’all say Hydrogen is most important when trying to get the scanner up and going ?
Each building requires a set amount of each reasource but some will likely cost considerably more of one type. F.e. energy related buildings cost relatively more hydrogen, whereas other more general facilities would cost a large amount of Carbon to make.
Once you have the scanner up I would expect Silicon to be your nr 1 resource as that is used to do technology, so you might need silicon for research 🤷♂️
Other than their purposes all of it is speculation at this point :)
We dont even know whether energy buildings will require that much more hydrogen or that silicon is used for most buildings. What their impact is in regards to their role 🤷♂️
I just look at the way the T5 elements were structured to get a little insight what is considered the best balance.
I expect they would balance the T5 as the ideal but there are also much more element and fuel sites on the T5 so is not much of a comparison
I have solon landmark too but can't control any of that if you minted obviously
Yes sure, just happend to be that Way. Well, we will see... Having Tons of solon + a solon-lm can't be thaaat bad
no, mine is lacking solon and crystal so went and picked up a couple plots that were more heavy in those
oh yeah, isn't a T3 worth 12 T1 from a production standpoint?
i had a brain fart
the shame is worse than then pain
its like when you hit you little toe on the table leg,like super annoying pain that you kinda laugh about 5 seconds after constant cursing.
I don't care what other ppl think of my behaviour anymore, since i do that my life got soooo chilled
best feeling in the world,you do you
anything specific that triggered that?
My ex 😂
She's Like the opposite... Only thing that Matters is what other people think of her. Got so sick of that behaviour...
ahh,women can have wondrous effects on us😆
Not just Bad ones tho 😄
With that i was actually pretty lucky, got 1 good thing from every ex so far 😂
Ofcourse not,married one that can stand my constant talk about Crypto and Illuvium.keeper for life
Silverlinings,love it.
Oh wow. I couldn't do that. You got some little dwarfs too, trolling arround?
got three off them😆
6 9 and 14
First one is the boy,got lucky three times,the girls are though as nails.
they have me wrapped around their fingers😂
But it's good to have some equal numbers 🙂
You would be theire toy 😂
we have a male dog😆
But the dog doesn't bring home some great views at BBQ when he got 21 😛
Man, I wish I could FAVOURITE some plots on the illuvidex map.....
Lol, I can do that.. just realized
obvious
but the UI should still be like the auction... They'll probably change it soon to make it better and more friendly
hi

yeah, at least notify you when it goes on market or change owner (but why do you need 2nd option). Also I think how will be deployed system where land owners / neighbors could communicate without span or scammers
That’s what I’ve been wanting to do too.
Gday all, been away for a bit, any update when Illuvium zero will launch? Got 4 lands and ready to play!!
No #📣〕announcements for now
Ok thanks, seems to be taking a fair while hey?
you have no idea
was there ever any rough timeline?
yea 4-8 weeks after land sale
how long has it been since the sale? would be close to 8 weeks now yeah?
prob like in 2 weeks
ok sweet
8 weeks ended yesterday, waiting another 8 weeks
noooooooo
😂 nahh just joking think we ll get date sooner
oh haha ok sweet, hope so!
Staring at all this land in my wallet, it’s like having a new sports car delivered to my driveway but the keys won’t show up for another 2 months. I just stare out the window sadly. 😅
Just think about it... Illuvitars they wana sell as many as possible, so you can expect Marketing wants to habe Like AT least 2 weeks for announcing it and advertise it. Pb2 Overworld i think it will come aswell with a little Marketing campaign to massively increase the community.
None of these milestones will just come Like you wake up one day, and they are released... Maybe pb2... All the others will have Marketing and not come directly after another...
Don't wana spread negativ sentiment tho... But i wouldn't expect it before christmas, if they hold on to this little roadmap, to not get disappointed every week
.
but yea Q4 more likely for IZ
i just hope the radiation clears out by then
from the nuclear war?
in Q4 I'll be too old to know what's cool
Just spat out my water seeing that looool
Alot of sales going through on land now.
Wash trading for the imx rewards maybe?
wen zero
Maybe but seems like a risk
wen
Word*
I had a nap 👀
Afternoon nap? Lady is getting old 😛
daydrinking ...
😄 jaga made you already daydrinking?
Hows that in a year from now?

!wen
Today I was reading the WP of the sandbox made in the 2019. Kinda fun read about open beta in early 2020 when in the 2022 they are still in alpha. And tsb is not even a AAA game.
People getting restless maybe.
Well they are buying above floor,and one adress has picked up like 26 plots the last 1 week,
Maybe I’m wrong
😂
maybe iam wrong
Current floor on land. Tier 1 0,43Eth(750USD) Tier 2 1.10 Eth(1900Usd) Tier 3 3.47Eth(5980Usd) Tier 4 13,94Eth(24000Usd)
love it @zenith cradle
Something def is up.. this wallet went ham this morning. Bought about 15eth worth of land. Pretty much in t1 and t2. His biggest trading volume since goin live in June.
They are either anticipating something, know something, trading to earn IMX rewards or all of the above.
May be this gamer has no life and want to spam blueprints all over
There was a lot of talk about time consumption of each plot
Or may be land lord strat
probably someone got investor for his guild. or it's already planed and he just wait the price to reach certain point.
I am leaning towards Imx rewards as those are quite juicy I traded around 6k last cycle and got like 350imx tokens for it
Yeah could be a guild also
The Imx rewards are pretty juicy atm. Not a lot of trading going on anyway but it’s 40k a day distribution either way so volume like that will def earn him some points 😂
thank you man! I've connected into IMX market and found out a handful of rewards. This is awesome :3
Awesome,1/3 are released straight away and the rest will be released over 6 Months i belive.
wash trader gotta farm that paid-to-trade
than it's even possible someone using it to earn imx lol
Where is imx market for rewards? I want in too
In the meantime while still waiting patiently…Every day I check announcements to see if the game release date has been hinted at or fully disclosed 🫣
Anytime I need an update from the chat I just see if anybody has posted this recently
final stage soon
really??? lots of land sale?
2 more days
soon(ish)
Wow.. the last 3 days was a lot of sales volume especially for Tier 1 and 2
2 more days to what?
imx paid-to-trade
the D day
Sounds hot.
yea its programmed
Not sure what you are talking about but sure
Johnny is supposed to give an update about where they are at with IZ next week. I assume that is what he is talking about
Actual next week or Illuvium next week🤔
Soon
johnny said fortnight on the 19th so it should be 2nd august if we use the same gregorian calendar
assuming fortnight means 2 weeks in his dictionary
Find Immutable X main website, there is a market in it and I just connected my wallet that have been connected to IMX in Illuvium website beforehand. And in my assets there were a few of IMX tokens that are located in Immutable layer
that explains everything
Its the guy that won the us lottery hes wash trading his winning 😉
Hi can anyone tell me if the motzart skins that are for sale on open sea can be scanned for blue printing in illuvium zero and then reproduced?
They can’t
Everything released so for has no utility, except for land which will have utility when Illuvium zero is released
Thanks. I was having a debate with a friend who thought they had heard different in an interview. I just wanted to double check
but the badges and mozart skins can be used ingame right?
It’s my understanding that they can’t be used.
But haven’t heard anything directly relating to this, so I might be wrong
mozart holo 
Mozart skins can be used in-game, badges can be used on your illuvitar
when iluvium zero will be announced, when we bought land, we was told that one month left for the release, now 2 months passed
that was an estimate ...not a launch date,...
how do you feel about that?
Very good
we should have a leak gameplay fortnightly for us know something is happening, its also a good marketing to non illuvuim followers
like look at our gameplay for our upcoming game, get your land at imx if you want to experience this
I like this.
thanks, it could also defer people asking wen, especially if we put coming soon 😄
Game play, not art lol. I don't want to see random drawings.
Game play trailer coming soon?
...is it?? Please
how soon
6 months 🧌
@empty path @whole spear mute him
Please stop tagging me
I’m not working today
Iv waited an hour....no game play trailer! lol
haha
So during sale, alpha was 4 weeks out. Last Dev blog said after illuvitars and pb2? Did it just get shifted in schedule? Just trying to understand when I might get to mess with my land
johnny promised something 2nd of august
be there or be square
The Genesis emotes, skin and badges that can be used in game, wondering if they be scanned?
i hope not
Animated page turn over, of course 3D-animated with little 2D rendered syllables
AAA books with words of highest quality
Someone buying up megacities today? I think I just saw two get sold
And they are paying top dollar to😃
how to buy a megacity?
we are broke man
Do you use token trove?
Anyone wants to buy a Lizard for 2, 53eth?
What are These lizards even for? Just jpegs?
Revdis😃
Lizards gives you revdis?
Just messing ,not selling😎
Now that’s utility
Thing is, I have two cities I want to build around my T3, but there is no way to really get them before bidding unless they list.and have been buying T1 T2 spread all over for some reason.
So... They are just jpegs?
It's a gamefi dao that invests in Upcoming games similar to a VC, when game launches any revenue from the investments gets distributed to the Lizard holders.
@brisk plume Btw are you looking at Stfx?
I See... So it's basically Like in earlier Times, when you gave your money to the bank, and they invested somewhere for you and took their Cut?
The Dao uses Capital from OS sales and places them in different projects, when the project takes of the dao takes profits and shares that with any Liz holder.
I see, ty mate

Kieran is one of the Advisor aswell🥳
OK.
Well maybe i will have a closer Look in future, but actually Investments Like this are not my Cup of tea normally 🙂
Loads of lizard fanboys in here it seems 😅
Most came from illuvium Discord from the degen Channel
Why didn't they made them Look cool? 😈
Gm fam!! Happy Sunday! Once say closer to IZ
it was a joke in degen channel
So, it's more kind of a dogecoin thing than a serious thing?
it started as a joke during nft fever
that they can sell any jpeg
So they did using paint
the genesis collection
then they did 5k collection
evolved to be a gamefi dao
Any word on IZ launch date? Or is turning out to be a scam?
the last we heard was that Johnny would be giving us an update potetially on Aug 2. that markes 2 months since Land sale.
How dare you
From the beginning
I’ve been wondering the same about your pfp
Now there are some handsome little Lizards
From scoriox
Wow, that escalated quickly.
I hope your feelings didn't get hurt that much and you will recover fast. I know that words can harm little kids very much. If you ever wana talk about it feel free to contact me
Don’t mess with Lizards


@amber atlas dropping some Alpha will be great for morale for sure. after the last dev blog, engagement really dropped off in here and I think it’s a shame.
I have been a bit far from the news. Is there something new about zero, like Wen or something else
I some how like this scam
ask em for feet pics
What is the relationship of ethlezard to Illuvium?
Why don’t they just focus on ILV instead? Is this the reason why there are so much delays?
Ethlizards was started by illuvium community members and Kieran is an advisor for Ethlizards but thats pretty much it.
The ILV team isnt developing Ethlizards or anything.
damn the lizards making these delays
I found out about hope in Game Dev Tycoon. This stat is so close to reality
Still a natural process to decay over time. Over all game dev cycle…
did someone said scam
Has anyone actually downloaded the ILV-0 leaks and blown them up on your screen full quality? I did that on my 4k Oled TV and was blown away!
Can you actually play if you own land? Looks like release is pending?
ooooo I missed the crimson leak, both of these environments are gorgeous!
Only internal team playing atm. We should hear more next month
Cool thx, looks interesting.
johnny promised something on august 2nd
The leaks make me wish I had a property in every region
Wow somebody payed 7.5 ETH for a T2 👀
its washtrading,guy basicley bought it back to himself
they have to hold for 24 hours to get access to the Imx rewards
atleast we get 4%
yea IMX is getting played
they are getting a cut aswell with Protcol fees.
artificial volume from paid-to-trade
yep
do we already know if we're getting the royalties to revdis?
not yet received i think
On the agenda to discuss with council this week
Getting imx rewards for trading
For how Long we are able to get rewards?
I belive it is 1 month
no way impossible
after land sale it long time update about illuvium zero. i think not have anythink oncoming
i think in dev update final stretch it mean last Q4
I think like everyone would like to have some updates on it but have to admit it's a long project.
feels like you are talking about a different thing
IMX is not, IMX token holders are 😊
👀
supply of IMX tokens gets diluted while the team/investors have equity and their equity gains value with more adoption/volume
gg wp I guess 🤭
lemme just open an IMX short btw
thx mods, so quick
.
ngl there are people scarier than me lurking lol
i dnt even think that way common
but IMX supply is cap 2 billion
Yes and circulating is like 235M atm 
if you are staked, your position gets diluted if, trading fees received *by stakers + staking bonus rewards < trading rewards distributed. The share of plain imx holders (non stakers) gets diluted the most
yea the paid-to-trade reward must be greater than tx fee
for washers to make profit yes
i wonder why the normies see this a good thing rather than a sell signal?
i cant imagine ILV has to pay gamers to play the game
Well there is 1M ILV tokens allocated to do just that hehehe
washer is the only people whos gonna bring volume in this market
maybe! but the stakers will get their share diluted by the profit the washers make
do you think IMX never thought washer will take advantage?
they did a 24-hour rule one day after the announced paid-to-trade
I think they know, idk, it's the same situation with LOOKS, token holders are betting on that real volume will eventually overtake washers
what a fool
well anyway my plots are stuck with imx
might as well do some self trading
ru doing it too?
I did on LOOKS, it's a fun game to play with other washers
Nice game theory in action
IMX could have simply implement offer and collection offer
and bundle for megacity
Yes agree, bribing people to trade is not sustainable, an amazing marketplace with good features is, I think hiring more devs with the IMX tokens going to trading rewards right now, would be more productive long term
But that's just me
and me
Currently it’s that kind of activity you would engage in when you have nothing to do at the platform (Illuvium currently offers nothing more then trading for a majority of players)
It’s hard to imagine Gods Unchained players are wasting their time on selling items to themselves just to cheese “the game”
But yeah, everywhere you can find the Spiffing Brit who is doing just that for funzies and YouTube
ser, they are doing exactly that, im in imx discord
Have you told them how they should improve running their business?
@whole spear it's practically the 2nd in Australia
I don't need to, I'm short IMX, that's my business
What makes you think we want you hear your complaining?
I think you misunderstand, I'm not complaining, I'm making money, just trying to present the situation as is
Haha
It's funny you think your opinion is reality.
It's not an opinion, it's supply and demand
If you hold IMX, try to washtrade a bit and see what happens, it's pretty fun to see the incentives for yourself
I can't imagine someone could come out ahead from the IMX rewards by wash trading. Fees are like 7-9% per transaction
Try it, see what happens, where is the BE point for washers. Everyone is just talking so you get alpha by trying and learning how it *really works
people are talking about how to game it in IMX discord server ser
Langames just picked up 12 more plots in the last 5min😂
13
14
15
16..
17
18
19
Everything but Crimson😬
who is he?
You have 5 minutes to list a T1 at crimson waste at 700 USDC
Go go go!
i got a T2 that i dnt like
lol
Do you wanna overpay on my T1 at the beach? 
it has 2 crypton
If 700 USDC sounds good, then ok
An underpay in my view
u only buy T1?
Today yeah
Lol no thanks, I'm not selling
I already have a little over 20 T2
Anyone looking to sell a T1 at crimson waste in like a minute or two?
I could
Srry
My plane almost leaving, can you list it now?
Top 3 with 204 plots,well done🎉
Never to see a marketplace again
i got halycon too
How are you going to manage them all?
He better not steal my helpers 😄
You can quit your jobs and help me please?
Hopefully Polemos can roll out rental platform quickley😃
I will frontrun Fraggy on Kieran's plots
I have 14 my self that I have no idea how to manage😬
fraggy will be busy banning people
Max build you plot in min time or get banned?
yea2
Do we know who the 2 others are?
kieran
I saw the N1 transfer directly to Kieran's wallet
Makes sense 😅
He's full of T2s, so awesome
GenesisDAO
Oh yeah
Are you trying to get me depressed?
Is that what you want? 😂
He has that effect on people
So they just OTC with Kieran?
So I'm the head of a private fund, and have occasional stream of funds to the higher risk area, Illuvium land is part of that portfolio.
As soon as money comes in, the funds are allocated. So that's why I wasn't able to pour all I now have into Silv2. I'm always illiquid. So It'll be hard to just sit on ETH or USDC (not part of the portfolio since this week) and save up for the bid, whenever that is
was there some epiphany during star atlas discussion that illuvium only needs to release marketplace content and not the game? xd
make sense, investors prefer due diligence and time in market?
Business as usual, one jpeg seller bashing another jpeg seller
They would rather have us time the market, but we know better so we set those standards
Hey Fraggy, do you already know what you'll offer players for helping on the beta?
50%
Nice
What’s up Lan my man! Good seeing you brotha.. i was hoping to tell you that I’ve replaced all my T1 to 3elements (all but 1 cuz it’s part of MC) and I sniped a even- distribution t-2! 333/111
how about ILV token?
Added it last month, but immediately goes to staking for 1 year
Nicee dude! Sure sounds like a smart move
Ready for any market conditions at Illuvium
Sheesh! Save some land for the rest of us 😋
This looks creepy af
I dunno why but the dead eyes stare, lol
Great, you just ruined my favourite GIF
It's because he has been saying "soon" and rubbing that token for quite some time now...
But he knows what's coming 
It looks like a pedophile creep af 😒😒😂
Ya Fraggy you need a new soon gif. That dude is creepy af.
This one I liked:-)less stressful
Can you make her rub the Illuvium token?
When Illivium zero?
no date yet
"Alpha version of the game is planned to release some 4+ weeks after the Land sale; this date is subject to change. The Alpha version will have Fuel earnings disabled, but any blueprints earned can still be collected and kept from this early release version."
+😂
Ah, as written there, the date was subject to change... and it did change as the team did an overhaul of all of the IZ graphics. More info about the release will come once the team has it
Stay tuned to #📣〕announcements
Would have to buy land to play? Doesn’t look cheap 🙂
Anyone who wants to play Illuvium: Zero AND earn through fuel or blueprint production will need to buy land, yes.
But there will be "virtual" Tier 0 land available for free which will allow anyone to play the Illuvium: Zero game however there will be no earning capabilities.
Yeah, that’s what I had read, there are more land sales in the future though from what I understand, just no dates?
Just started reading about this the other day and am intrigued, watch some of the dev blog stuff last night on how Zero works.
Correct! Only 20,000 of the total 100,000 T1-T5 plots have been minted so far and the next sale is not in the forseeable future. My guess is that it is going to come well after the games have launched and players have been playing... but we shall see! Best to wait for official updates from the team on that 🙂
Any tips on what to look for when buying? 🙂
TSG have a good overview.https://youtu.be/VsXm8yZHJgw
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Awesome, thanks!
Always! There’s been some unusual volume last 2 days. We had a wallet scoop up 20 of the floor yesterday. And looks like someone else swept the T1 floor this morning. Gonna check do some analysis after work to see if it’s the same wallet or someone else. Either way, people are sweeping. Reason unknown. Do they know something? Maybe. Are they IMX farming? Also a possibility.. still cool
Thanks
Was a good watch, one of my takeaways: Tier 3 is really for element production vs Tier 4 is really for fuel in regards to landmarks.
Not that I can really afford either of those tiers, haha
Landmark is just 10% boost on one type of fuel/élément. not a big deal
Hi
Do you guys know how can I see how many silv2 I have in my wallet ?
I have nothing on Metamask, I guess all my funds have been transfered to immutableX when I did the landsale.
Yeah, just saying if you're looking for resource mix, could play a critical role in determining which mix might be best. The mega city component could make that more interesting.
did you add the sILV2 contract in MM?
the purchase of lands was made in L1 and minting in L2
Yes I have it
It says Balance 0 silv2
strange, in your wallet history you don't have any movement of sILV2?
you didn't use them for buying land?

But what does etherscan say? That’s the full blockchain data. We can open a thread if you want to keep your wallet address private.
Did the 1 august thing happen yet?
Wen Johnny
Today does mark two weeks since he said he’d have an update but I’m not expecting anything
And he didn’t promise anything
Well he deleted his message saying anything about 2 weeks so keep those hopes up
wdym
I couldn’t find it
I see it now
Johnny is online 👀
ikr
Maybe if we behave he will give us some updates
Is there any idea on how much a plot of land will produce (ETH wise) to determine ROI on current prices? Or still too soon?
Still too soon. There’s no way to know what the amount of fuel produced will be yet. Or how much each fuel token will be worth.
So any estimate would be offering exponential degrees of inaccuracy.
Seems a lot of the Tier 1 either got picked up or relisted close to the Dutch auction start price (2 ETH), which I’m assuming would be cost prohibitive.
Most did not get minted anywhere close to the starting price.
Last I checked there were tons still listed for sale at around $500-$600 worth of eth.
Are you using the filters properly?
Maybe not, cheapest I was seeing was like $800
Was looking on IMX and the illuvidex
Yeah. That’s the only place to look
I have not looked for awhile. And eth has been gaining value. So that price change makes sense to me.
K, was debating picking one up so I could try out zero when it comes available for play. Can you get in if you aren’t approved for beta, but own land?
Yeah.
Well, hopefully GameStop marketplace soon 🙂
That’ll be on IMX
imx makes its entire network order book publicly accessible
Also, once the #🎮〕illuvium-zero game is closer public launch there will be the ability for anyone to play the game free of charge. Even without holding a land NFT.
Wanted to try out the blueprint stuff
Yeah it’ll be fully playable. But no blockchain connections. So no NFTs. No tokens.
Assuming you need to own a land NFT and connect your wallet though. Is it still only MM like the land purchase or can any Wallet work?
At least to try out fuel and blueprints and stuff
IMX network requires either metamask or something called magic.
And all the illuvium game nfts will be in imx.
Yeah, wasn’t sure about the new GameStop wallet since IMX is supposed to be integrating there.
Lol, well thanks for your help 🙂
if the GameStop wallet is compatible with the IMX somehow it will be able to be used together with the L2 to make purchases but I don't know anything official about that
This is my assumption as well, but guess we’ll all find out when then integration is done.
Is there any other place to trade land other then Imx or illuvidex
@whole spear would you look at the date...
Today is the day
tokentrove
Lol
Two weeks went fast😃
why u have to be like this
i got tons of screenshot but ill never use them
yet
The real question is why did JOHNNY have to be like that
Dm them to me
DM's are a scam

Imagine having a phone/comp filled with screenshots of discord evidence instead of stuff you actual enjoy looking at
What if that is what you enjoy looking at
This is my last screenshot
Kinda wanna tag Karen now
I guess to each their own right
so basically we will have to sell them in the illuvidex and buy the fuel we want if we can't generate it and if we have other land and no beside each other, I still have to sell my fuel in illuvidex and buy the fuel or element that I need in the illuvidex
dude.. someone just DM'd me
!scam
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Nobody in the team will ever ask you to send ETH. There has been increasing activity of DMs in this Discord related to scams and fake giveaways.
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I think they are trying to scam me and try to get me to do some arbitrage
LOL
but they didn't try too hard because I didn't show any interest
Actually no. You could use in game methods to convert one fuel to another fuel. But there’s possible scenarios when using token swap methods would be more efficient
what if the 2 lands are not in the same place but in the same wallet
but you need fuel or elements from the other
In game transfers. But would cost a little something to do.
okay.. so I am guessing you can use ILV or SILV2 to do any of those transaction in game
Mega cities are special partly because they do those in game transfers for free.
Actually it’d be a loss of fuel or element.
the in game transfer you think would be expensive? I think they shouldn't be too much less than a dollar
oh okay
A percentage thing I think.
The only reason for that would be to pay to speed things up.
percentage is probably better
then I don't need to keep inputting money into the game
SILV2 will only be for Illuvitar,, accessories and Illuvium land
what else is it going to be used for?
bribing for leeks
It can be used for anything the fuels would be used for in the overworld.
to buy fuel in overworld
if I have a ranger in the same wallet as my land, can i share the fuel with him or her or it?
or do i have to buy it from the market
Technically silv2 will be used instead of the fuels.
but what will be the use of Crypton, solon and Hyperion
if I only need to use silv2
You’ll be able to share it.
This is real money.
This is a gift card
No. You use the gift card to get the stuff the game money would buy or pay for.
Fuel tokens will be real erc20 tokens. Not merely in game currency
okay. they can be traded in the real market
Yeah. For eth. And for the other fuel tokens.
I thought you need Crypton to travel
so I need eth to get crypton to travel in the overworld
Yeah. Or sILV2
yeah okay I get it.. and these fuel can be shared with my own land in the same wallet
because these tokens are in my wallet
land is like staking getting differen types of token over time depends on the game play and how well I play
Yeah. Or you have land that produced crypton. You withdraw that crypton from your land to use in the overworld game.
okay as long as it is in the same wallet
or I guess you can transfer it to another wallet for some gas fees
or you can buy it with SILV2 or Eth on the Illuvidex
Interestingly enough this is the last photo I took with my phone @whole spear
Imx wont have gas fees. But there could be a percentage fee. But not likely for transfers. They usually only charge for trading
Those must die well done
hopefully not much for trading fees.. didn't they say it is free inside IMX
I agree and I was surprised with how hourglassy the hourglass is
Well NFT trading has fees on imx. It’s just hidden in the order book. Not visible to those that don’t know to look for it.
No ethereum network fees (no gas) is not the same as no fees at all.
Thief
they have to make money some how I guess
How dare they make money
Yeah. If someone is gonna by the t1 I listed at 9eth I want all the 9.45eth that they pay to buy it from me.
hey.. I have a question about a piece of land
not sure how do you know if it is good or not by the placement?
location?
can I share a photo of it and see what you think?
why do u care about the location man
u planning a megacity?
thats a reall good one
congrats
I am not planning no mega city. I don't have that much money
how do you know if it is good or not
balanced elements
and fuel
And u got 3 cryptons
Cant be more perfect than this
only 1 Hyperion
it is in Halcyon sea
this is like 99% balanced
I am not planning on selling
Weird to see Jaganite be positive about something
dont sell
really?
Yea its been awhile
But I am not planning on getting megacity.. not enough cash to do so
u got the map?
what map
oh.. not sure if I should show coordinates
do not
ok better not to show the map then
or u can dm me
well u can save some money
And buy your surroundings
just get a 2x2
but do it using different wallets
tokentrove
tokentrove keep crashing
just save some money man
okay

yea IMX is sht
thats a really2 good T3 man
And use multiple fresh addresses when buying around your potential megacity🤓
Somebody have been reminding me everyday for the last two weeks that this was coming today😬
whos the ahole
⤴️
Thanks man..
There will always be delay upon delays anyways.. just like any new technology
THe more delay meaning more chance for us to accumulate
and price to fall
they delay is not long enough too bad.
and now spending on illuvitar sigh
did you get any land yourself? or you have a megacity
1 more land but I am guessing it isn't as good, but not sure .
any opinions @hearty cradle
yea youll prob want a more balanced one
i have T2s and T1s in crimson and halycon
I did ping him to let him know you guys are looking for him... Hes very busy on IZ though as you can imagine
yeah, can't win them all.. what about the locations or dots on the map.
do you think they will matter that much?
only if ur planning for megacity
I guess there is no Crypton
ohh u mean the nodes?
yeah I mean Nodes
well its better if they are clustered on one corner
Blueprint scanner is supposed to be more efficient when there are no other buildings close to it
yeah.. , I hope i can get some blue prints. I wonder what is the % chance
oh nice, you are looking to get blue prints
is that why you got multiple T2 and T1
or you planning mega
blueprints farm
i reckon red is the most popular followed by blue
turns out crimson is #1 by fp, and halycon #3, while crystal is #2
but i have sold all of my crystal for liquidity
Wen will you be able to use your land? Will they inform in #📣〕announcements ?
we dont know Wen and yep, they inform in annoucments
johnny promised something for today
johnny is in his man cave being fed pizza and beer not to be released untill IZ is 🙂
Game not yet release?..
Only beta for arena is playable by the public now.
Adding wen to my daily quest now
Wait.. the location of the nodes might matter too? Not just the balance of the land? 🤯
I didn't even consider that
Yes😂
the game is complex
wont expect less
Think BS is very underrated region, air illuvials are op
chicken mvp 
what is BS?
Brightland steppes
ahh right! I only remembered the more popular ones and there was 2 region that I didn't really look into during the land sale.
i gt some land on 5 regions, would have like to get 1 more but i procrastinated too long
U ll have good chance to get some blueprints from different regions 🙂 i think thats smart
Yeah that's why I went with Crystal Shore ultimately. Didn't want to spend too much time managing lots of lands so instead of bunch of T1s from different regions went with T3 in Crystal Shores since it was the most balanced (only location with a chance from 4 different affinities).
So....no news today?
i blame @hearty cradle he prolly did something and put @empty path into ban hammer mode on Johnny
That's super disappointing
Lol, I can't ban team members
Nope
I thought we were supposed to get an update today, did that change?
I believe that is what Johnny said, yes. I'm not in contact with him.
psst....cuz she banned him
Lol I bet she's dying for an update so we get off her back
I know as much as you guys 🙂
idk she might like it
I don't
I was really expecting something today.....another let down....
Day is not over
In Australia it is I think.
Not sure where johnny lives
I think he is Australian
That sucks
rich pinged johnny
does Johnny have land?
whaaaaa
Mega cities
@whole spear no news?
Not that I have, need to wait for Johnny
can someone ping johnny
Rich already did
i cant see it
It was privately
I too, like to work in the dark
hey I just scrolled up a bit and checked pinned messages but is there any update to when alpha will go live? still a few weeks out?
No updates at the moment
The continued let down is a bummer, idk for how long the argument that "it needs to be the best " argument will hold before it starts feeling like a star atlas
what did he say?
the best way to feel good about oneself is to talk sht about other people
"at least we are not 5 years away"
well there kinda is an update from the initial timeline? because shouldn't it have been live by now? based on statements made during the auction?
“If jaganite can be quiet for a whole day I’ll give them an update”
I know as much as you guys.
wasn't it said initially 3-4 weeks after land sale, the alpha will go live?
I mean everything is TBA now...so who knows what time frame that means
4-8
Correct, initially it was 4 weeks then after the sale it turned into 4-8weeks
ok i missed that 4-8 jump
for a basic mini game yep. but they changed their plan for a much better expérience
I believe today is 8 weeks after the sale
kind of things are normal in close dev, but in open dev, it hurts. ^^
I get it, and I want the game to be everything they want it to be, I think an update on timeline would benefit the community
It hurts in web2 also , people complain alot except in web2 you didn't pay thousands for assets in a game and even if you preordered the game you can always get a refund.
I believe Johnny said he would give us an update this week
usually in Web 2 you are aware of the lunch 6 month before, no ?
Sometimes but I've been on games that kept getting delayed and sometimes cancelled all together and people are always pissed but in those scenarios the players didn't spend any money...here people have more of a right to be upset and impatient since they spend thousands
i understand, they are like actionars
I think overcommunication in this type of development model is better than no communication, although it's a tricky thing because you don't want to just continue saying there are delays and it's not ready yet and having to move the goal post over and over again.
If it's Alpha though, I certainly wouldn't expect perfection as long as it's playable. Having something playable to provide feedback and bug reports on seems a better solution that delivering a polished game.
ill do it for the team lol
Guys just remember
you have spent money on this and it was not measly $100 on a founder edition pre access bullsht
Agree its too long. And when the annoucement will come, 4 more weeks to wait pretty sure
you have spent thousands of $$
Not yet I haven't... still the FNG here 🙂 haha
an update is your rights
I'm certainly interested though
it's obviously not "alpha" in web2 terms anymore
Are you in any other projects? I wanna go watch how you act in those servers towards founders/team? lol
the same
Expectations are likely somewhat different given web3 blockchain integration, agree, but my understanding is it likely isn't going to mint any NFTs when released in case of bugs?
I wanna experience it though pls dm me invites
are you in imx discord?
yes
that doesnt count though lol
gimme a project you actually support
silence lol
you think i dnt support this project?
Its questionable at times to say the least
okay
but I digress this is #🎮〕illuvium-zero
im not sure i understand the last part
What I had read or heard (can't remember) is that the aspect of Illuvium Zero which would mint NFTs as part of game functionality won't be enabled for the release that is coming since it's Alpha/Beta.
and rich, i worked in VC, i sht on founders
Other than potentially blueprints.
@whole spear I love you but shelling out cash and waiting is supporting criticizing and questioning is our right...I mean we are just nothing and we should spend money, shut up and wait
yea, but at the end of the alpha you get to keep the blueprints
its probably minted at the end of alpha
I didnt tell him to shut up, and questioning/ criticizing is fine. I asked a question about something else entirely and its my opinion on how Jag acts...
at times at least
I'm just making the same argument that Kieran makes about star atlas.... spending money and just waiting isn't a good thing
Yup I agree, I wish it was ready the second the sale was done
or we had pushed the sale until it was done
but hindsight is 20/20
Lol he’s a bit of a 🍆 but every gang needs a 🍆 . As long as he’s not an 🍑 🕳



