🎮〕illuvium-zero

[thin wolf]

@wary notch your a beast, keep popping up on my twitter notification😂

[wary notch]

Srry for spamming 😅😂😂

[thin wolf]

No, Thank you for sweeping and you can spam all you like

[analog fjord]

You mean it's not the The Bottom of August?
https://c.tenor.com/HjHrWHjrzXIAAAAM/panda-flip-desk.gif

[lost torrent]

wen land with a function?

[hearty cradle]

imo Q4

[paper flame]

Yo Fraggy, how can we get this debate with Kieran and star atlas guy to go viral? We need an explosion in the background or something.

[empty path]

Ask marketing 😅

[flat herald]

I'll go in a cryogenic sleep untill then 🛌

[gilded ingot]

I don't understand why the land sale it was going to happen so far from game release

💀

[flat herald]

Shit happens... not their fault. They want to make sure alpha is a success.

[mystic umbra]

I know right we should totally like get a free illuvitars mint, totally, they’ve wronged us too greatly

[hearty cradle]

wdym not their fault
they conciously made the decision to add billion things

[flat herald]

Thats the reality of a AAA games. I don't know a lot of good games that released at the initial annonced date.

[hearty cradle]

Half Life 3

[shrewd nova]

I hope they put the same amount of detail in IZ. I finally got in beta for survival mode and it's a lot of fun, I still suck but it's really cool.

[umbral hull]

keep practicing, you'll get better 🙂

[nimble lichen]

I wonder how many plots of land is too much for one person to manage properly

[empty path]

You can just lend them out to others if you have too many

[thin wolf]

going to be awhile before that is implemented?

[empty path]

I don't know 🤷‍♀️
Maybe that's why it's taking longer? Who knows

[nimble lichen]

true but I'm greedy

[empty path]

I totally get that

[thin wolf]

Its not really needed for Alpha,just a nice thing to have.

[fair temple]

It would screw over all the whales if they only got a fraction of the potential blueprints they couldve had if they played on all lands 🤷‍♂️

[hearty cradle]

guys wen

enough with the wait

[thin wolf]

you think this is a priority to get in for alpha?would be a waste Imo

[thin wolf]

still got two weeks...

[hearty cradle]

fine

[thin wolf]

and the Johnny starts leaking shit all over the place😆

[empty path]

Nah

[thin wolf]

your just saying that because you have 260+ lands you promised to sort for Kieran😆

[empty path]

Oh yes, I'm screwed without lending

Also megacities pls 😅

[queen folio]

Just play them all, Fraggy!

[empty path]

With earning I would try

[queen folio]

https://tenor.com/view/many-hands-rihanna-swaying-hands-music-video-gif-15801593

[empty path]

Might have to resign as mod then 👀

[thin wolf]

Or you could just sell them on the low down👀

[empty path]

I can't sell, he owns them

[thin wolf]

But if you are maintaining them when alpha hits, unless we have lending from the get go how will you maintain them?

[empty path]

🤷‍♀️

[proper void]

Do we have a launch date for Illuvium Zero yet?

[empty path]

No, not yet

[lethal thunder]

Maybe next year

[random rampart]

🥵🥵

[empty path]

Wdym

There is still some room and I would like to have to backup

[fair temple]

The amount of things you do beside sleeping is astounding.

[empty path]

Oh right

[dry mango]

Told you, she doesn't sleep

[fair temple]

When

[dry mango]

I won't be able to find it now but I wouldn't forget a Trivia Master

[radiant sky]

Pretty sure he will reach out to you, if you made it

[empty path]

Dm me and I’ll check

[radiant sky]

Damn.... Somehow i missed incoming gamestop illuvitars Trailer... Fomo for cheap floor Land kicking in

[harsh acorn]

pretty sure its the same trailer as the website but its just Gamestops first time promoting it

[radiant sky]

Yea...but i think gamestop has a Lot of follower, who haven't seen trailer yet

[harsh acorn]

definitely a good thing to get more eyeballs on illuvium!

[umbral hull]

too bad it's not the main gamestop twitter account

[harsh acorn]

problem is most web 2 gamers will just crap on web3 games until a good one comes out

[radiant sky]

Ah, OK... So it's Like a metaverse Account of them?

[umbral hull]

yeah gamestopnft tweeted it. something like 72k followers. much smaller than the main gamestop account

[radiant sky]

I c... 🤔 but still 72k possible reposter... But at least not as many as i thought

[meager flint]

hey, i suppose that to build in IZ you probably need all the 3 resources. Will it be possible to transfer resources between my lands?

[umbral hull]

Yeah I mean anything is good heh

[radiant sky]

Actually i was hoping prices will drop due to the dev blog News. But advertising Like this makes me feel they don't drop that much anymore

[harsh acorn]

Once people realize how good Illuvium is and its fun to play. The fact that it is crypto wont matter

[umbral hull]

Hehe yeah short term, I dont care what happens. But long term, the more eyes the better

[radiant sky]

There is something Like a converter Building which you can build, to convert a ress. Into another one, with a bit of extra cost and time...

[umbral hull]

The fact that illuvium still doesnt pop up on some peoples' web3 gaming lists is just... insane lol

[harsh acorn]

there is also an option to transfer resources from one land to another Johnny mentioned but there will be a cost and a time delay to get the materials

[radiant sky]

Well i was informing myself a Lot, and to Be honest i found Like 20 shit Games, until i found illuvium due to pure luck in a YouTube vid.
Like... If you don't know it exists, it's not that easy to find

[umbral hull]

yeah for individuals, it makes sense. but for people who are making web3 lists and writing about them, those people are supposed to be knowledgeable about the space. so how they are missing the only actual game in the space is beyond me, haha

[meager flint]

i heard about Illuvium from a friend who researched couple days in metaverse games, it wasnt easy for him also

[radiant sky]

That's actually very true 😄

[harsh acorn]

I found out about illuvium from OnChainGaming . They don't even really cover ILV any more they just shill Gala games

[radiant sky]

But things Like gamestopp advertising makes it definetly rasiert to find

[radiant sky]

There are a Lot who shill Gala games

Don't know why tho... I don't Like them that much i would invest in

[harsh acorn]

Its been over a year since I invested in ILV

Gala games never interested me

[radiant sky]

Haven't heared from ilv that early 😔
Actually i was just rigth to inform myself and prepare for Landsale

[harsh acorn]

Well right now ILV is lower than when I first got it. NFA but IMHO a great buy especially anything below 100usd

[radiant sky]

Still thinking about to buy some for staking, need to inform myself better about it... Actually i just have some Land atm.

[strong pewter]

Which fuel and resource do what? I can’t find it.

[harsh acorn]

Johnny the lead dev for ILV-0 has mentioned they will try to make all fuel and elements balanced is their goal. There will be fluctuations in demand and price but they are keeping a close eye on the economy.

[nimble lichen]

Can we mine/craft rare shards from ILz or just Overworld gets to participate in shard rarity?

[dry mango]

Just overworld

[wicked horizon]

How are floors I haven’t been here in a few weeks

[lyric hamlet]

I was just reading that there might be an option for lending?

Lending your lands*

How would that work?

I would assume that there would be an option to list your land for rent

Would that land go to the wallet of the borrower or will it stay within illuvium and they will just have access to use it?

[empty path]

Owner will keep the land

[hearty cradle]

is that confirmed fraggy?

[empty path]

I think I read it somewhere

[hearty cradle]

stop spreading false information

#✍〕rules

[lyric hamlet]

I read it from u 🤣

[hearty cradle]

who

[radiant sky]

The Way more important question would be, what if the renter decides to delete all buildings?

[harsh acorn]

It would be nice if a save state would be incorporated that if a renter deletes all structures you could restore the land to a previous state. Just like renting IRL there should be legal agreements that protect the buyer and seller

[radiant sky]

Yea something Like that, or even delete the delete function while plot is lended.
Would be also pretty nice if the lender could Set something Like a roadmap... Like give prios to Buildings the renter should build

[glad junco]

I’m pretty sure PegAxy had a successful renting market. I would find a medium article for either them or another project that had a renting option. Read how those operated and that should give us a good idea of how renting works

I’m pretty sure the renting will come way later so speculating rn might be a moot point 😦

[radiant sky]

I think kieran will push that function 😂

[harsh acorn]

Revenue made by the land will be shared % so its in the renters best interest to maximize gains. So by destroying a land plot they are hurting themselves as well.

[glad junco]

I have no doubt lol it for sure will be a big part of the ecosystem e-commerce

[radiant sky]

Maybe it is another Big Land wallet, who wants to delete production of the other landlords 🙃

[radiant sky]

https://c.tenor.com/qCkTVJcSUpoAAAAM/the-root-of-all-evil-is-money-ronnie.gif

[glad junco]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-scream-yeah-hockey-kid-angry-gif-13592395

GUYS!! I just snipped a 2/2/2 1/1/1 in Crimson for 1.23ETH

[frosty haven]

Nice!!! 🍾

[glad junco]

https://tenor.com/view/gollum-my-precious-lotr-ring-gif-16150965

[cyan dew]

Congrats

[radiant sky]

Like what?! You got a 3x3 for 1.23 ETH?

[glad junco]

Nah 😂 it’s a single T2 plot in crimson. But it’s perfectly split 2/2/2 element sites and 1/1/1 fuel sites which is supreme plot of T2s 🙂

[hearty cradle]

thats cheap af

[hearty cradle]

can i buy for 1.5? Kek

[radiant sky]

Still a good catch tho 🦾

[tardy fern]

https://tenor.com/view/caveira-skeleton-ive-been-waiting-gif-13523984

[silk comet]

So IZ beta release next week? 😎👌

[empty path]

No dates announced yet

[hearty cradle]

yep right on schedule

[empty path]

You forgot "imo"

[hearty cradle]

nah johnny said a couple of weeks

i trust johnny

[empty path]

He said he would come with an update in a couple of weeks, I don't think he said game launch in a couple of weeks?

[hearty cradle]

and lucius said 4-8weeks

[hearty cradle]

he did on an interview with arash

[empty path]

That was ages ago

Seems like this was the last update:
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[hearty cradle]

so 4-6 weeks

[thin wolf]

August 2 is the two week mark from Johnny and the 8 week mark From lucious😀 should be an interesting week

[hearty cradle]

lets gooo

the merge on sept 19 and IZ alpha on augus 2n

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/sigh-exhale-deep-breathing-stressed-cant-even-gif-14818147

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/betty-white-wine-cheers-drinks-red-wine-gif-15465402

[rough stone]

I’d be stoked with Sept 19. That’d be the best birthday present ever.

[rough stone]

That’s what I thought too.

[dim nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[empty path]

So 75% of your message history is this GIF? 😅

[radiant sky]

Soon's everywhere

[dim nebula]

yep

until they release the alpha

this is my attitude

https://tenor.com/view/stalking-spy-simpsons-creeping-lurker-gif-15842386

[icy thicket]

Cannot wait for ILZ to drop... my phones ready, my work setup is ready so I can manage my lands on the side, counting down the days!!
My calendar cannot wait for a set date to be added !!! LFG 💥 ✨️ 🔥

[hearty cradle]

2nd august

[empty path]

You can see this as an official and logged warning. Stop spreading un-confirmed launch dates.

[hearty cradle]

johnny said that, please mute johnny

[empty path]

He didn't and you know it

[paper flame]

https://tenor.com/view/bet-calling-snitch-im-telling-snitching-gif-11886766

[lapis ledge]

You've been warned Jaga. Better not do that we don't lose a familiar face here.

[wise widget]

Such a troll. Flips from being supportive and positive to intentionally doing stuff like this. Either paid or just a wierdo imo

[glad junco]

RIGHT?! Honestly do feel a tiny bit guilty because it’s clear they sold way below but if it would have been scooped up by someone else

[hearty cradle]

should have pinged me man

[hearty cradle]

its okay ill make a "Not Jaganite wink2" user

[hearty cradle]

fraggy is the mod

[lapis ledge]

👏🏻 I'll be sure to let Fraggy know about the new username 😂

[empty path]

Let me know when you did

[fast edge]

👀

[zealous plank]

https://tenor.com/view/redfox9-fire-all-hail-the-gif-24337797

[silk comet]

Thanks, getting prepared to play next week then, as planned :) probably gonna tak off from work just for it, lfg 👏👏🔥🔥

[empty path]

Keep in mind there has not been any post in #📣〕announcements with a launch date. Wouldn't want you to take time of work for no reason.

[rotund reef]

And a friendly reminder that being obnoxious in the forums and asking wen does not make the project go faster.

[lost drift]

well, the dates seem to have changed, so I think people have the right to ask and be confused, and I think it is valuable for the team to know how people feel about the change

[rotund reef]

Disagree. It's ready when it's ready, and will be posted on the announcements. Super simple. I'm a land holder too, but I'm not owed a bunch of constant release updates. That wasn't part of the exchange.

[shrewd nova]

@empty path just realized why you said to me that you "arent a bro" my bad and thanks for helping me get into beta. I'm in love with it.

[hearty cradle]

but wen

[empty path]

No idea what I did but glad you like it

[shrewd nova]

The form

[empty path]

I talk to a lot of people in a day 😅

[shrewd nova]

lol np

[thin wolf]

Spot the differnce.

[oak solstice]

They leveled from 2 to 13?? 🤣 🤣

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-get-out-dan-levy-david-david-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20760343

[still vine]

That's hilarious dude, graphics get better as you rank higher 🤣 what a concept

[thin wolf]

Cant wait to see this pop up over the screen

[harsh acorn]

The difference? It looks like a different game all together

[harsh acorn]

That's me when I start playing another web 2 game knowing I'm wasting my time

[thin wolf]

Thank you

this is why we wait.

[frosty haven]

These look SO clean 🧼

[glad junco]

Am I doing it right?

[lyric hamlet]

Are gas prices be purely market driven?

[still vine]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-not-high-enough-higher-please-bugs-bunny-looney-tunes-gif-16647469

[glad junco]

@lyric hamlet Yes..imagine the network is like a highway and the transactions are cars. The more cars there are on the highway the more congested/slower the traffic. Drivers can chose to pay a toll get into a fast lane but there’s still only so much room in the fast lane so the larger the toll the better chance of being in teh fast lane 🙂

[glad junco]

🤭 I actually think it’s a fair price. It’s part of a 3x3 and there’s only 2 that are not own by the same person. The other is delisted - I imagine that one being problem plot.

But now I’m second guessing

🤔🫣

[still vine]

Depends on how far you’re thinking fair in todays prices - probably, in the futures possibility maybe too low lol

[glad junco]

Actually.. your opinions would be welcomed guys. Let’s discuss

[radiant sky]

I'm missing a t1 to for my 3x3 which got sniped and is now ways overprived in imx... Still, i would never pay that and rather play a 4x4 and a few single plots

[glad junco]

you wouldn’t pay 6.9420 or what that guy is asking?

[radiant sky]

Never ever

But maybe you are lucky and the dude pays it.... Fingers crossed

[still vine]

It’s hard to say what I’d pay before I see the game and revenue in action. Everything is speculative at this point especially the mega cities

[glad junco]

Yeah I’m starting to wonder. by the time the game is out, market maybe in a better spot and that could be a low for a 3x3.. hmmm 🤔

[still vine]

I am excited to see what land goes for at the 2nd land sale honestly by then game play will be tested and we might be closer to resource sharing between plots and mega cities

My personal opinion is not to sell for at least a year atm. Though admittedly I have both mine listed above floor with intention that if they sell I’ll double my land holdings lol 😆

[glad junco]

My current strategy. I did pick up a 3/3/3 1/1/1 t2 last night which was way below floor and it’s hard to resist the urge to flip and buy more.. but I suppose that’s what makes this who nft/gaming/trading thing so fun. We’re just kids again trading cards on the block 😂 I’m here for it

[still vine]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-damn-damn-damn-damn-right-dame-time-gif-18029769

Wish I had the cash for that many. Some day maybe 🤔

[glad junco]

Ohhh nooo no no man 😂 I’m sorry I meant it was 1 T2 which has 2 of each element and 1 of each fuel. These are dumb expensive but I sniped one by luck 🍀

[still vine]

Niicceee

That’s a good split too

[little moon]

Nah hmu We can work something out before the lending is even a thing don’t worry

[wicked obsidian]

Is it better to get 4 random tier 2 lands or 1 tier 3?

[little moon]

I’m excited to see what land looks like when the game is launched into v1.0 and then when the main game launches I have a feeling the numbers we see now are going to be super lows compared to pricing after… my personal opinion

[still vine]

https://tenor.com/view/agreed-leonardo-dicaprio-great-gif-11569561

[hoary wraith]

Managing 1 land is easier than multiple lands

Imagine the amount of time needed to manage the equivalent of only tier 1s

[bleak raven]

cant wait

wen

zero.!!!!!!!!!

2 months after landsale already!!!! people started to sell the land!!!!!

[empty path]

👀

[stoic plank]

no news yet on ilv zero? an approximated date ? 😛

[empty path]

Nothing yet

[stoic plank]

no rush than ^^ i just want them to do their best and not rush due to some lacking pacience ^^

I am sure it will be worth the wait ❤️

[empty path]

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[dry forge]

This is a reminder to never give out your private key (12 to 24 word seed phrase) to anyone.
Nobody in the team will ever ask you to send ETH. There has been increasing activity of DMs in this Discord related to scams and fake giveaways.

Any giveaways/promotions will be announced on official channels. Not in Discord DMs. #🚨❗〕report-scammers in the linked section with a screenshot of the message you got in DM's. Also include the "@ username" in text and we will ban them. We are growing fast and there are targeted scams going around. Only trust links from official channels.

[rapid fjord]

Hello

I’ve been researching land like crazy

Let’s discuss

I read fuel will be set at a fixed price basically. Any word on what that price will be and how much a tier 1 land would produce of it

[fair temple]

Alright

[fair temple]

No. We dont know pricing and all we know is a relative production rate compared to other tiers.

[rapid fjord]

Yep my thoughts conformed

What if there’s an oversupply of fuel and no one is buying

Even after fuel dips 25 percent below

[fair temple]

Then the price will drop until 25% below avarage price and the DAO will start burning fuel.

We may also see Land owners start to hodl their fuel before selling it to the balancer pool

[rapid fjord]

Cool. My biggest question on all this. What exactly is the 5 percent revenue share

[fair temple]

Whenever you progress in the game you will require fuel. T0s dont require anything but once you go to T1 zones and T5s you will require more and more fuel.
(Edit: In these zones you can find resources / Illuvials of higher tiers to become stronger)

This fuel is produced by land and sold to the balancer pool. In the process of selling, the DAO will also mint 19x the amount of fuel you sell and thus it has 19x more fuel than the land owners and get 95% of all fuel revenue.

The fuel revenue is purely from in-game progression. Once you own an asset and trade it with someone else, it does NOT require fuel.

[fair temple]

Does that answer your question? 👀

[rapid fjord]

Thanks, appreciate the help truly. Will read one sec

Very excited about the project

I’ve made some big bets, been on the sidelines for a year now

But I’m looking to go in on a couple tier 4s maybe a tier 4 and three tier 3s

[fair temple]

Ohh thats next level. Will you aim for a megacity or will you buy them in separate regions?

[rapid fjord]

Separate areas

Well I guess together if possible but that’s probably unlikely

[fair temple]

Yeah and it would cost tons more hah

[rapid fjord]

It seems like the tier 4 land is more expensive per station. Price per station . 21,000 floor price/ ((15 + 9)(x3)) is 318. Kind of expensive compared to a tier 1 which is 650/4. Do we know how much value the fuel landmark adds?

[fair temple]

Landmarks supposedly give a 10% boost to one element/fuel type to all lands within the megacity.

[rapid fjord]

Thanks. Seems tier 4 is a bit overpriced based on that assessment

Unless it is used as a boaster to many surrounded plots as part of a mega city…but as stand alone land that is way worse value than tier 1 or 2 stand alone land

There must be more to it…

[fair temple]

I think the production boost is additional. So the 300% is on top of the 100% it earlier produced. So it is x4 instead of x3.

And the element sites only have 12 of them on a T4, Not 15

[rapid fjord]

Tier 4 price: 21,000
15 element stations and 12 fuel is 27 stations total.
X4 is 108
Comes out to 194 per station

[fair temple]

12 element sites, 9 fuel sites*

[rapid fjord]

Yep corrected my math thank you

[fair temple]

Now you are taking the values of a T5 land mate

[rapid fjord]

Oops lol

Im on my phone lol

Small screen

One sec lol

[fair temple]

12/9 so 21 sites

[rapid fjord]

Yea

X 4 is 84

21,000/84 is 250

Whereas a tier 1 land is 640/4 is 162 dollars

Why such a high premium on tier 4… I guess it’s easier to manage than a lot of tier 1s is my guess. But there’s prob more to it than just that

[fair temple]

Now imagine aside from ease of playing: T2 lands will be the norm. The official free to play game will have content for lands that have a similar production to T2 lands (Though they dont interact with the blockchain)

So the content creation would likely have to keep up with avarage players of T2 lands that produce 1.33x more quickly and have 2x more element production than T1 lands.
So if you want to keep up with the speed of content creation you will require T3 and T4 lands to supply your T1 lands to make up for your element and fuel deficit on your T1 lands.

[rapid fjord]

Really appreciate you helping my newbie self. That’s a bit above my gaming knowledge to follow. Something about speed…

[fair temple]

On top of that, T4 lands will br able to max out a lót faster than other lands and upgrade their buildings a lot quicker because they have all those resources lying around.

Higher level buildings will have better odds at more-rare blueprints and thus the higher tier lands will have an edge there as well!

[rapid fjord]

Yea the blue prints are a bit of an X factor. Ok so the tier 4 makes the collection of resources go faster and rarer item drops. Fair enough

Do you think tier 4 is worth it over buying many tier 2s instead

?

I put my trust in you Garf the wise

But no pressure lol

[fair temple]

Yeah i have no clue. I personally went for T2s because i didnt think a T4 was it for me. But like i said: a T4 has its perks.
It takes less time, and you can quickly ramp up your production and get the highest odds at high-tier blueprints.

I just dont know if they have enough element sinks for T4 and T3 available. and rhey might expect you to supply your other T1 lands with an amount of your T4 production. So you might be left with full element storages after a year or 2.
If you dont intend to buy more than just the T4, then that cóúld be a waste. but then again, would the DAO and devs not fix that? 🤷‍♂️
Idk i think the value will be similar :)

[rapid fjord]

Interestingly, the fuel generation is cheapest on a tier 4 which I think is the main value driver

21,000 /(9x4) is 580 whereas 650/1 is 650…And then I guess the landmark has rarer blue print probabilities

[fair temple]

The landmark does not affect blueprints

[rapid fjord]

Right

Landmark just does a 10 percent increase or something like that?

[fair temple]

Yes T4 lands will see 10% increase in one fuel type. So either hyperion, solon or crypton.

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-on-the-pool-viralhog-relaxing-im-resting-sleeping-baby-gif-22505661

[rapid fjord]

Sounds like it’s best to get one tier 4, two tier 3, and then 8 tier 2s if I go all out…

[empty path]

Me when Garf is in the channel

[rapid fjord]

Yea garf knows a thing or two

Im asking technical stuff

[fair temple]

You could if you have T4 and T3s also get a bunch of T1s and supply them with elements 👀

[rapid fjord]

I just want to rent the land out

For ROI

Whatever works best in that case

Lolz

[fair temple]

It is a lot more technical if you have T4s giving out resources to your other plots.

[rapid fjord]

Whats the best way to allocate 40 coconuts 🥥

🥥 = 1000 dollars

Tier 4=20,000
Tier 3= 6,000
Tier 2= 1600
Tier 1= 650

[fair temple]

Good luck 🤣

[empty path]

Didn’t you want a T4?

[rapid fjord]

Tier 4= 20 🥥
Tier 3= 6 🥥

Tier 2 = 1.5 🥥

Tier 1 = .65 🥥

[empty path]

I want you stop posting these things in public channels and get me in trouble 🤣

[fair temple]

They are gone

[empty path]

[rapid fjord]

I did some math people. Illuvium land is currently valued at 45-50 mil total (probably 50 including tier 5)

Total diluted cap is 250 mil

Axie infinity is 135 mil currently, 650 mil diluted

ILUV land is about a third of axie land all in all, not bad

ILUV is a hipper neighborhood

It’ll appreciate faster

[fair temple]

is this math or just speculation :]

cuz the emotional value my lands have is roughly 10x floorprice rn

[slim harbor]

Hey guys, I just bought a T2 and I'm wondering if it needs to stay in my metamask wallet to interact with iluv zero, or will the game be able to interact with let's say my loopring wallet

[fair temple]

It should stay in your metamask wallet, as IMX is only compatible with Metamask as far as i know 🙂

[slim harbor]

Okay thank you :)

[rapid fjord]

Math

[fair temple]

👀

[rapid fjord]

Yugioh did over 2 billion in sales last year.

If illuvium can get to those numbers …

Btw interesting stuff with axie land. They generate a 60 percent roi with passive income as if today

That’s quite high

I wonder what illuvium will be…

I’m an investor first gamer second here

Illuvium land…So cool…So risky

[elder badge]

I have a background in real estate and can tell you with limited plots of land (scarcity) the ROI can be exponential especially when fuel can be sold on the open market. Which is the reason I took a dive into the land purchase.

[noble drum]

Unfortunately the hiccup in the equation is that once popularity grows and fuel becomes valuable they will just have more land sales and dilute the land. But we are all aware of that from the start. I just need to keep in mind that there is a cap on value of these lands can get if they just keep selling another 20 K plots

Once the next land sale happens the fuel rev you are getting will het cut in half.

[elder badge]

But you have to realize the consumer base is “global” thus increasing player base and with those increases would be minuscule in depreciation.

[elder badge]

Can you reserve the fuel and for how long?

[rapid fjord]

Also a real estate background myself

[noble drum]

I’m just point out that bringing up “scarcity” in terms of ilv land when they still have 80% more to sell is something to think about

[elder badge]

I’ve tried to look for real estate type blockchain projects and found a few that are real use cases but this is by far the best I have found that is digital.

[charred aspen]

I’m a architect, lol

[rapid fjord]

Fuel is not an open market though. It’s a fixed price + or - 25 percent . Not sure how that’ll work

[rapid fjord]

Did we just form a guild?

Lol jk jk

[noble drum]

For now, 5% of fuel rev will be divided over the 20k plots that exist. Soon it will be divided by 40k plots (cutting your profits in half) and later by 100k plots.

[elder badge]

20,000 is a low number tbh

[rapid fjord]

I guess we like real estate but not managing tenants so we’re here lol

[elder badge]

People are hard to deal with irl

[rapid fjord]

It is, there will be 100,000 total plots but no doubt the release will be slow. Like fresh molasses out of a new bottle on a sunny day

[elder badge]

The play testing should help us understand the fuel distribution better

[rapid fjord]

Agreed, seems like a huge void. If I was in software I would’ve launched one no question.

[charred aspen]

It’s more because real world properties got too expensive, so I try it with virtual ones lol

[elder badge]

This! Which is why I just HAD to jump the gun and buy.

[elder badge]

It’s all about regulation, those same projects that touted real estate have now changed the name of the game to crowdfunding lol

[empty path]

Ikr

[rapid fjord]

What land did you go for? T1 T4?

[elder badge]

Especially when money is involved

[empty path]

Send all your money to me, no more worries about it 🎉

[elder badge]

T2 but planning on a t4 or try to make a mega city still deciding what to do

[elder badge]

If I had money flowing out of my pocket but the inverse is true with 3 dogs and a wife 🤣

[empty path]

Who eats the most?

[rapid fjord]

Nice, im trying to figure out the best way to allocate 40 coconuts 🥥 , one 🥥 =1000 usd

[elder badge]

I have 2 Great Pyrenees that weigh 100+ lbs and I eat more than them combined 🥲

[rapid fjord]

Nothing wrong with that

[elder badge]

Nice! I just wish we could handle the bunch of land in a single tool to manage.

[slim harbor]

Doesn't a ROI of 60% with axie infinity scream "this has to be a scam" to everyday people though? Or am I looking at that wrong

[rapid fjord]

That’s what scholars are for

[rapid fjord]

It is not, I couldn’t believe it

[slim harbor]

That's the thing though, I don't believe that, that doesn't sound sustainable?

Am I thinking of Apr and not roi

I think I am

[elder badge]

There are too many people relying on the ecosystem from third world countries that is keeping everything afloat, once Illuvium comes out I believe there will be an exodus.

[rapid fjord]

I think that’s the same thing

The 60 percent is real and sustainable at the moment

[slim harbor]

Oh haha well in that case I'm just super skeptical of anything claiming a guaranteed 60% ROI, that isn't real

[rapid fjord]

Not guaranteed at all

If it was I’d be there lol

It depends on the game remaining equally popular

[slim harbor]

Ahhh right okay, I thought they were promising 60% year on year basically

[rapid fjord]

No no

Based on current crypto price

Which depends on the user base

[slim harbor]

Right that makes a lot more sense haha

[rapid fjord]

They’re user base is dropping like crazy

But hey maybe the exodus is done and the current numbers will hold and 60 percent roi it is

I think illuvium will destroy axie though in like 6 months from now

That’s why not I don’t think it’s necessarily a good idea. Much like @elder badge said

[somber ocean]

if i got access to the beta, why does it not let me play

is the servers down rn?

[slim harbor]

Think you want one channel up

[somber ocean]

oooh ok

[slim harbor]

That channel would know more I think

[rapid fjord]

I’m excited for renting out land here

[slim harbor]

Certainly will be interesting, I wonder what happens if you borrow the 4th land needed for a 4x4

Probably can't do anything with it since you don't own it but I wonder

Lease agreement might include additional benefits if your land let's the renter make a mega city

That'd be cool

[rapid fjord]

My father used to say “why buy a 4 when you can own 2 and rent 2” yep, he always had the best illuvium advice

[slim harbor]

😅

[hearty cradle]

that should work.
i think that will be the main advantage of land renting.
the team just have to figure out how to merge the land and consider what would happen to the shared structures when the megacity is unmerged

[fair temple]

yeah exactly. I don't think it should work 🙂

[hearty cradle]

and what happen to the research progress

the most valuable progress would be research

so much fo figure out

[slim harbor]

Yeah seems a tad complicated.. maybe if you were renting for a megacity then it would be fixed long term contracts

That could alleviate some of the issues maybe?

[little moon]

Their intention is this land will fuel any game the create in the future, so I take this as you won’t see another land sale for a long time. They shouldn’t need all 100k lands to feed one game. If they created 100k for multiple games.. I think we will see our 20k stick around as the only land for a long time.

[little moon]

And even when they release more games it’s just going to increase the demand argument sake that 5% brings in 1000 total, you double the demand and the supply your still bringing in 1000 that’s how I see it obviously it’s speculation since nothing is out yet and we don’t know the actual demand haha but I’d like to retire early sooo 😉

[minor sage]

Can i ask if there any difference between a blueprint from a land Tier 2 compared with a land Tier 1?
since i guess i hear Kieran talking about blueprints theres is no difference. but i saw some videos and get me confused lol
thanks in advance.

[solar topaz]

The difference is that you need higher tier buildings for the best blueprints and scanning/research also needs ressources. So T1 will take way longer to get to the advanced buildings and once you are there it remains to be seen whether you'll be able to scan/research at the same rate as a T4.

[minor sage]

Thanks for the answer. and @solar topaz too

I don't know what to do then

i have 5 lands tier 1, not sure if its worth to have 2 tier 2 or 5 tier 1

my focus is blueprints...

Can i ask in theory which produce more fast. a tier 2 with this 33% boost or 2 lands tier 1?

[shrewd nova]

Any word on T5 auction? That'd supply additional runway

[trim pendant]

Which one do you think is actually the best money maker do y’all think buying land is profitable or actually staking and playing the game ??🤔🤔 just a thought

[empty path]

Don't think we had an update on that

[shrewd nova]

I've been going back and forth on this. Depends if the token can actually go back to ATH

Also depends on what the team does. It's so early I think

[slim harbor]

If they wanted to hype a certain marketplace when immutable X items are available there that's when I'd do it, special landing page for the auctions in an illuvium section or something

[slim harbor]

Gonna do both, first investment with a certain level of fun behind it so 🤷

[ornate loom]

@tardy sail hey man u got a min?

[trim pendant]

Exactly I’m just trying to make the best decision will buying the land be the game changer or simply playing game and staking I’m at a cross road

Some people say land is not gonna be that profitable considering it’s only 5% landowners get

[shrewd nova]

personally, I'd hold on land. I bought land during the auction. it was much cheaper with SILV2. There is no date on the ILZ beta and no date on the game release at all. The coin might make sense since we are in a bear market and hopefully prices are good.

land would just sit there for who knows how long doing nothing.

[teal mural]

The blueprints are the main money make for the land

[shrewd nova]

We'd still need a game for that and even then time and chance to get those blue prints

[trim pendant]

So do all lands t1-5 have blueprints ??? And what about fuel

[glad junco]

All t1-5 lands have an equal chance of scanning for a BP yes. All lands also have fuel but depending on the land you might have just one or all 3 types of fuel

[minor sage]

would be possible to sell a land "already leveled" in illuvidex? or when it sell it just reset the progress?

[still vine]

All progress on land is saved, so when you sell all the buildings you’ve built remains

[amber narwhal]

i wanna buy my third land soon, and i need to transfer my ETH to immun x wallet right? and will the land sale be hold on immun or will i need to transfer my money back and forward?

[dry mango]

just send the ETH to IMX and make the purchase, if you want the ETH at L1, just withdraw

[radiant sky]

This confirmed Info?

[dry mango]

as far as we know yes, but as it hasn't been released yet it's still subject to change

[radiant sky]

Sure. But nice, always was a little sad that t4/t3 have no advantage when it comes to bp. But now... you Made my Day 🙂

[subtle frost]

So is it bad to own Tier 2 compared to Tier 3 if you had a choice

LOL stupid question

Tier 3 I assume is a large step up from Tier 2 where as Tier 1 to Tier 2 is closer together?

[real solstice]

still no date?

[empty path]

No

[real solstice]

ok land sale seems so long ago

[empty path]

About 6 weeks?

[solar topaz]

Let me put it like that: the ILV token has dropped in price much much more than land after the auction...

[solar topaz]

• all progress AFTER the beta. At the end of the beta everything will be wiped out.

[harsh acorn]

Tier 2 land has 3 times the fuel and element sites as tier 1 and on top of that has a 33% production boost. So much better in terms of production more than 3X. The floor for tier 2 is less than 3x the cost of tier 1 On average more bang for your buck.

[subtle frost]

A date with who

LOL

[fair temple]

I don't think this is right. (unless you have a source 😮 in that case nvm)

What I thought was that higher tier lands will be quicker to make the scanners due to more resources and because of that can scan earlier. But the speed of scanning remains the same between tiers.
Additionally: With a higher level scanner you will have better odds at higher tier blueprints. But those are the only differences...

[real solstice]

It was said 6 to 8 weeks after land sale right?

[undone phoenix]

This is my understanding too

[empty path]

I also think it's the same

[harsh acorn]

To get to the point of scanning when you have more resources you'll be able to scan sooner. Once lower tiers have built everything needed they will be equal in terms of scanning for blueprints from my understanding

[dry mango]

you are right i got it wrong

[fair temple]

yes except that their building levels will be slightly behind 🙂

[radiant sky]

https://c.tenor.com/FwKfmqX8hBUAAAAM/disappointment-disappointed.gif

[fair temple]

@amber atlas If the blueprints are some kind of token of appreciation for all the land hodlers and alpha testers, how will they be distributed?

If you own 100 lands and scanning is required to get the blueprints, then how will you get the blueprints?

if you have to play on all your lands, then the whales would really be fucked. they would have to play like MAD and only get 10 lands done hah. So will lending and megacities be introduced at the start of the Alpha so that the whales can get their appreciative rewards?

[harsh acorn]

While I do believe thats a valid concern whales will ultimately benefit the most from fuel sales when the full game launches. Blueprints gives the small fish equal chances at blueprints based on the amount invested. This is what I love about illuvium is the approach is for the masses not just the uber whales. This will drive long-term adoption

[thin wolf]

i see now that we where in general talking about BP😆

[fair temple]

Interestingly, here Johnny says that higher level buildings might be able to work for higher costs but better outcomes, (either Faster or more likely to succeed).

This means that you are right that Higher tier lands, that have higher level buildings quicker MIGHT be able to do more scans and research 😮#814313779696238642 message
(second paragraph)

[radiant sky]

T4 have higher Max Building than t1? 🤔

Thought they have the same

[fair temple]

nono, they will just be able to make the buildings quicker because they have a large amount of resources. Fixed the earlier message 🙂

[radiant sky]

Ah sure... But then they will have the Same Chance in the end

[radiant sky]

You playing with my emotions sir 😄

[fair temple]

I just wanted to give him some credit because higher level buildings might scan quicker. While i thought it was just a matter of increased chances of higher tiers 🙂

[thin wolf]

but you could spend Eth or SIlv2 to speed up building.

[fair temple]

but who would speed up T1 buildings... youd end up paying more for your buildings than for your land

[thin wolf]

If you have some leftover Silv from Illuvitar sale😆

[fair temple]

then there is a second and a third one 😄

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-reynolds-goddammit-damn-hitmans-bodyguard-hitmans-bodyguard-gifs-gif-8352668

[amber narwhal]

i just deposit from my metamask to IMU X, how long can it take before it goes throgh?

[fair temple]

Deposits are pretty much instant I think......

[amber narwhal]

it came throth now, took 2 min

[fair temple]

instant enough!

[amber narwhal]

just bought my third land lets gooo, now i got 1 of each fuel type

[quaint oyster]

why you dont show the Coordinates?

[amber narwhal]

dont know haha, i quess i can if you wanna see

[quaint oyster]

i can see them

[radiant sky]

I can't 😔
You have some special eyes my friend

[quaint oyster]

563, 555 halcyon see...look closely

[fair temple]

he just pulled up immutascan, looked for the last 5 trades and saw the Halcyon sea one :]

[radiant sky]

https://c.tenor.com/dp_hQBGT0rIAAAAM/think-smart.gif

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[minor sage]

Congratz Mathiaas!

[nimble lichen]

Now start looking for your 4th...

[radiant sky]

He already did for sure, just looking for some funds 😂

[nimble lichen]

Hard to stop, always looking for the next one as well

[quick grail]

Hey guys been awhile. Can anyone give me a TLDR on when the IZ alpha or whatever we will play first is due or news on it? Not complaining at all just wondering

[slim harbor]

Soon™️

[flat herald]

No date yet

[glad junco]

From the June Dev blog which came out a few days go.. there’s no date.. the team admitted to falling behind..IZ is scheduled to launch around the same time as PB2 Overworld (no one knows any details on when that is). Expect a more clear roadmap on the next Dev blog which is expected around mid august.

[quick grail]

Cheers. Had seen that just figured some people who camp in this channel might have a heard a few more details from Johnny on it all but all good.

[glad junco]

Got ya. Unfortunately Jonny jumped in during the dev blog release and there was quite a bit of anger and frustration. He said he’s out for a bit to focus on the game so we prob won’t here much more for a while. But he did says that he wants to leak some game play so be on the look out 🙂

[quick grail]

Damn that’s unfortunate. I can definitely see how you could get burnt out from all the negativity. I get tired of seeing it and I only spend a fraction of time in here compared to others. It requires far more of a calm temperament and patience that I do not have 🤣

[dry mango]

hmmm, we need a FAQ about zero by Johnny to clarify these details

[tardy sail]

Now I do

[oblique basin]

When can we play land

[empty path]

No dates announced yet

[oblique basin]

Thx

[mystic umbra]

One more week before johnnys awaited return to discord I believe

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/good-johnny-bad-johny-happiness-light-flip-gif-15995343

[mystic umbra]

---

that's my last word on timeline for 2 weeks though, need to get in and 'do' rather than 'talk' !! -Johnny 7/18/22

Looking to the first of august for an update from Johnny. Seems like a great day for an update. Start of the month,

[empty path]

Nice

[mystic umbra]

And I’ll still be here everyday

[empty path]

I just made the mistake to zoom in on that pfp

[mystic umbra]

Mistake?

I made this burger with my own two hands

[empty path]

I'm trying to lose some weight but I do love burgers

[mystic umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/with-my-own-hands-henry-frankenstein-fritz-frankenstein-i-get-to-do-it-gif-18799205

[mystic umbra]

I wish I had that problem. I can’t seem to gain weight so I eat burgers everyday

It’s almost a chore to eat a burger

[empty path]

What a cruel world, why not just balance it out.

[mystic umbra]

Balance, balance it out?

Like with French fries?

[empty path]

No, I mean. You have to struggle to eat a burger and gain some weight. I have to struggle to not eat a burger and lose some

[mystic umbra]

Truly is. But we all have our battles lmao

Our burger battles

[empty path]

It all comes back to burgers

right @noble quest ?

Oh no, what have I done. Let's get back on topic

[mystic umbra]

I only found out of his burger business endeavor recently and I have to say it made me love the man a whole lot more

[rustic magnet]

when game release? i thought they say 4 weeks after land sales

it has been a while

[empty path]

There is no release date announced yet, keep an eye on #📣〕announcements. Lot's of stuff to come

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/agatha-wink-gif-20772888

[gusty frigate]

is it possible to buy fuel/element using silv2? after that sell the fuel / element into eth?

[little moon]

No

[gusty frigate]

to buy fuel / elements can only use ETH only?

[little moon]

You can use sILV2 to pay for a cost that would normally require fuel. But you cant just buy the fuel with sILV2. You would need to use ETH for that.

[gusty frigate]

does that mean, silv2 can only be a substitute for fuel/element but can't be used for transactions?

[potent dock]

sILV2 can be used for transactions that don't involve another player. It's an alternate payment track to ETH. You pay sILV2, you receive a "thing" (like a travel cycle, for example). At no point do you require Fuel during the transaction, it's not sILV2 -> Fuel -> Thing.

The main reason for this is because sILV2 is burned when spent in the ecosystem, so it can only be spent on things that the game is offering to you. There's also no guarantee that someone would want to sell their stuff (Fuel, Illuvials etc.) for sILV2.

[thin wolf]

Here is an overview of what token goes where

[gusty frigate]

I see Silv2 will be difficult to get when the game is fully launched, because people who play will prefer the option of using Silv2 which is set at 1:1 with ILV, so of course this is more profitable than buying fuel/element using ETH

does this make sense?

does this mean that Silv2 is deflationary? because Silv2 that has been used will be burned

and will this lead to strides in the future ? And can this push the price up?

[quaint oyster]

when silv2=ilv then its the same using eth or silv2

[gusty frigate]

I don't expect the price of Silv2 to be the same as ILV, but maybe it can be close to the price of ILV

I think as long as the Silv2 price is below ILV, Silv2 enthusiasts will still be there, because the value of Silv2 is set at 1:1 with ILV

and this of course leads to more profits, than buying fuel/element using ETH

does anyone think the same as me? am i thinking too much haha

[shrewd nova]

Is there a limit on silv2?

How many there are in circulation?

[potent dock]

76.3k right now, you can always check on Etherscan. https://etherscan.io/token/0x7e77dcb127f99ece88230a64db8d595f31f1b068

The amount of sILV2 in existence is currently limited by the amount of staking rewards available (as claiming rewards is the only way to create new sILV2).

[slim harbor]

Why do some lands say minted by but not owned by? I thought only the 20k sold + the T5's show at the moment, or does everything show?

[noble drum]

i think the "owned by" is only if the wallet who minted it isnt the owner anymore. so if soneone transfers it to another one of their own wallets or if they sell it

[slim harbor]

Ah I see thank you

[flat steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/wen-spring-wen-naru-naru-wen-yummi-universe-gif-25313644

[sonic junco]

We have any word of an estimation?

I want to play the game bruv

[analog inlet]

nope but keep looking at #📣〕announcements anything official will be posted there ... its Not there it hasn't been announced

[sonic junco]

got it thanks

[analog inlet]

your welcome but please do not spam the same question in multiple channels in the future

[sonic junco]

I didnt know if anyone checked this one but for sure in the future

[elder badge]

If there is a need for fuel to travel shouldn’t IZ be out before overworld?

Or will the fuel to buy with ETH be accessible?

[analog inlet]

the beta may be but they will go live at the same time . the DAO produces 95% of the fuel landowners produce 5%

[elder badge]

Ahhhh didn’t know the DAO produce fuel too

[merry quartz]

We in here! 🚀

[elder badge]

I’m not even gonna speculate because nobody knows the price of fuels and they are making sure no price gouging with 25% cap.

[noble drum]

If another land sale happens, will they change the 95-5 fuel ratio of what comes out of the DOA and ILZ? Can it then go to 90-10? Can that be suggested? My big concern is that as soon as the next 20k lands go on sale, everyone who was part of the first 20k drop immedialty gets their fuel rev cut in half

[little moon]

The only reason they would make another land sale is if the initial 20k couldn’t keep up with demand. So even if they released another batch of land they should be able to limit it to not greatly decrease the income for all land owners

Meaning not necessarily selling 20k again maybe only 5k would be needed. They have just created 100k plots doesn’t mean all 100k will be sold just for this game, their intention is every game ever developed by them will be fed from the 100k so they will only release what is necessary at the moment… or at least that’s my understanding

[fickle ore]

Any update for ILZ yet?

[analog inlet]

**when 20k plots are active 5% is split between 20k players when 100k players are active its still %5 just split among a greater # of landowners **

So yes the 5% **will get diluted as more land get sold ** thats how it designed.

🎮-illuvium-zero landowner revenue is not passive and does not work like staking revenue.

read this for a detailed description on how land owner revenue functions #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[analog inlet]

nope but keep looking at #📣〕announcements anything official will be posted there ... its Not there it hasn't been announced\

[noble drum]

Yeah I get it, but you agree it’s gonna be a shitty event for us land holders who are generating fuel rev and then one day the next land sale drops and our fuel rev drops 50%.

[analog inlet]

jsut one of the many reason I decided to personally not buy land an buy more ILV for staking instead.

[noble drum]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-very-smart-amazed-impressed-ryan-reynolds-gif-17243241

I guess I’d really like to see future land drop in like small 1000 plot sales spaced out. That would be less impactful to existing land owners and prob also command higher prices for the DAO

[rotund reef]

They won't have another land sale until the popularity grows enough to warrant it. So it will get cut in half the day after the sale, but things should balance out over time.

[noble drum]

It would get cut in half if they drop a whole another 20k, but I think just have smaller 1k sales would be a much better idea. They don’t need to flood the market

If fuel demand starts to get highway then just turn the faucet on a little at a time and just add 5% more land as needed. Not some tidal wave of new land. But maybe that’s the plan already

[rotund reef]

I think after a month or two of lower rev things would come back tot he way they were pretty quick. Who knows. Didn't even really think about it until you brought it up.

[radiant sky]

Imagine they make another 20k plots Sale as planed due to the high demand, and afterwards the playerbase is dropping 🙄

[deep brook]

It would only be when there’s a critical mass for players, I wouldn’t worry about this in general but should be at least a year before talk about/another sale

I do like the idea of adding %1-5 per 20k lands to balance things out in a way

[radiant sky]

Sure , i know... But Players come and go, if there is any other good Game release, playerbase can drop easely at very high numbers... And even if not, it's a big cut. Maybe they do add a few%, but absolutely not intended at the Moment, and i think they discused it for a long time, before they fix it a 5%... So i wouldn't count on it.

[noble drum]

Well that’s what’s great about the dao and the iips. Plenty of time to work on it.

[primal wagon]

One thing to think about is to get 100% efficient at fuel harvesting will take time(I’ve heard 6 months) so even if the land plots double it would be some time before profits from fuel sales diminish if you have your land built up

But I agree it would be nicer if they do smaller land sales. The demand would be greater and it should bring in more for the DAO per plot.

[radiant sky]

Doesn't Change anything for landholders...
Eventually sweet for stakers, because they could have a higher average price and thats more revdis for stakers

[lyric hamlet]

When can I quit my job and live off illuvium?

[deep brook]

After it comes out…

[harsh acorn]

The problem with Play to Earn systems is that people end up only playing because it makes them money. Illuvium needs to be a fun game that people will pay money on even if they make no ROI. Will people make money? No doubt but If you are relying on the game to quit your job Im not so sure that there will be a sustainable ecosystem long-term

[little moon]

But even if land doubles and they release another 20k that’s 40k total that would mean the fuel is needed so the 5% would still bring in the same money… if fuel need doubles and production doubles outcome is still the same no?

[elder badge]

As a game what are the tax implications when swapping fuel for eth?

Or is this a gray area because it is gamified?

[harsh acorn]

You may want to consult a crypto friendly tax professional. Each country/state is different.

[elder badge]

Yeah the CPAs I’ve spoken to are less clueless than I am so I had to take a stab in the dark

The regulations in the USA are in limbo

If Illuvium blows up then might as well move to a tax haven country for crypto!

[harsh acorn]

Im in the US and I only consider taxes when I sell crypto. For me the digital earning I make in a crypto game only counts as a taxable event when I sell it or convert it to ETH or Fiat. Pretty grey area and Im not a whale or expert so I doubt they are watching me specifically.

[harsh acorn]

Yes If I somehow strike gold I would buy a house in a crypto friendly country and make it my "main residence"

[elder badge]

Yeah I’m no whale either, and plus the IRS has a backlog so far back they are throwing taxes away, unfortunately these bastards decide to process mine immediately

[harsh acorn]

They are auditing you?

[elder badge]

Singapore should be a nice spot 👌

[elder badge]

I was on a payment plan and even though I’m paid off they keep taking money from my bank account and I cannot reach a single person in the IRS even my accountant can’t help me. So pissed.

[harsh acorn]

CoinBureau did a video on the top 10 crypto friendly places to live.

[elder badge]

Same guy who promoted Luna?

[harsh acorn]

yeah Government related stuff is such a cluster.

[harsh acorn]

He usually posts pros and cons videos on certain cryptos Im not sure on Luna. I know he owned it personally

[elder badge]

Yeah I watch his videos time to time and has some great info sometimes but most of the stuff I am already aware.

[elder badge]

All forms of government have pros and cons but mostly cons

[harsh acorn]

Problem is Governments make financial decision for whole countries when they have not clue on Economics or Accounting

[elder badge]

That’s why I love the metaverse, no boss!

[elder badge]

No that’s the central banks, the government allows them to do so…so in essence you are 100% correct 😆

[harsh acorn]

Banks and the Govt and Market Makers and Large Hedgefunds have different names but all are really the same organization.

Its refreshing to be apart of gamefi like Illuvium where us small fish can have a say in the matter

[elder badge]

It is really the royal families that have had dynasty’s and passed the wealth

[elder badge]

It’s a storm brewing in Asia for gamefi, so much the other project I was involved in totally switched focus for gamefi

And it was a real estate project, lol go figure; follow the money

Anyway I’m hyped for Illuvium and it’s ecosystem!

[subtle frost]

So.... I 've been away. Did I miss anything? Any IZ news?

[harsh acorn]

not really anything. The team this past weekend were on "tools down" taking a break. May be just recharging their batteries. We are supposed to be getting an IIP for Illuvitar sale sometime real soon

[tardy fern]

https://tenor.com/view/wen-creepz-wenfinity-wenwenwen-creepz-wen-gif-25738654

[lethal thunder]

Yeah IZ launch will probably next year

[subtle frost]

sweet. I am hoping for 2025. It should be good by then 😄 LOL kidding.. take their time. its fine.

[subtle frost]

nice 😄 I'll just focus on other things in life for now.

[harsh acorn]

yup the minute we stop asking wen is when they will tell us wen. lol

[subtle frost]

reverse Psychology

I don't want the game to come out so soon

please

I don't want to play games. I want to study

don't destroy my life by giving me an awesome game tomorow.... O please O no

[versed warren]

do people change what they are selling for based on the price of eth? because I bought one for .64 and now everything is .43

[deep brook]

Several factors but yes, been pegged to dollar value for a bit especially since you can buy in usd. There’s a small dump from people disappointed with the order of things and think iz zero is far off, hopefully people snatch these up, floor was pretty steady at .49ish before that

Decent time to load up 😉

[versed warren]

why is there so much fud and hate? like do people not realize like diablo & gta are still fucking in the works. this has been around for a year why are people so scared?

[empty path]

This time they have money in it 😉

[cyan dew]

Still no news?

[empty path]

I don't see any

[cyan dew]

Thanks

[versed warren]

Fair but I have money in it and I ain’t being a Illuvatard😂

[mystic umbra]

Did you check over there?

[versed warren]

Personally I want a good polished game so my land is long term not a quick pumped out game that goes to shit just to have a quick nft flip.

[empty path]

?

[empty path]

Even tho that word made me laugh, please don't use it 🙂

[versed warren]

Alright sorry 😢

[mystic umbra]

No not there

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/group-chat-stop-it-drama-roasted-make-it-stop-gif-8488307

[mystic umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/its-time-to-stop-stop-clock-time-gif-5001372

[tulip perch]

Ima going to drink some beers and get ready for tomorrow fight night ....think we got a couple of trolls in general getting some early practice in

[hearty cradle]

its tomorrow?

[tulip perch]

27th yes

[gaunt gyro]

wen zero?

[empty path]

Once a date is known, it will be posted in #📣〕announcements

[hearty cradle]

november

oh wait you mean the game?

yea Q4 imo

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-22827303

[dusty agate]

U want me to get heart attack 😂

[trim pendant]

Exactly scared money don’t make more money but if you don’t risk you won’t make money I’m thinking should I buy the land should I not 700$ worth of crypto for a land is a big gamble for me but some people say buying land will not really make a lot od money wonder how true that is.

[noble drum]

well 99% of other NFTs have absolutely zero revenue generation. these land NFTs are going to generate revenue to the holder. exactly how much or how little is only speculation, but the fact that it is generating at all makes it a better NFT than most of the others out there IMO

[fair temple]

If you can only buy 1 land then i wouldnt do it personally
NFA but a T1 land just isnt fun to play on it would grow 4x as slow as a T2 land and youd just lag behind all those others with massive plots and youd be stuck with that small plot that generates barely anything.

[deep brook]

The teams doesn’t not give dates for you to fill in the blanks with your opinions. Borderline misinformation, please be conscious and respectful 🙂

[rotund reef]

But with one land, you would be eligible to mint a skins blueprint

[quasi geyser]

I member land sale and wen mods say game playable 4 weeks post mint

[fair temple]

Yeah there was an interview where that was mentioned. But after the interview the team realised that it was a lot more work and they might need to do more than they thought. So thats incorporated in the current timeline without actual dates.

[lyric hamlet]

Been almost 8 weeks

[quasi geyser]

Don’t worry. You can spend more money on illuvitars in a few weeks

[glad junco]

Ooofff.. completely wrong take.. if you can only buy one land you should. meaning don’t over extend yourself but the idea that you’ll be lagging behind t2s and will barely make anything is completely a wrong approach..
Yes t1 will get built slower, that’s the point - it’s lower tier for lower barrier of entry. there are a ton of ways to profit from your land.. if you stay on top of it you’ll build faster than other T1s which make up majority of land anyway - so that will put you at the top of your perspective tier (you’re not competing with higher tiers).. also, once you’ve built you can sell for profit beucaee buildings stay so if you have a great set up (which will take skill and will be super fun btw) you land will be desirable..you sell that, buy another plot cheaper and build it up again because you know how to do it, flit that and do it again.

T1s have the same chance of scanning for blue prints so when you build up to max levels, you’ll have same chance as other plots to scan which is great - what if you scan for a lvl 3 BP? that’s additional revenue source.

T1s are gonna be THE most important part of the land economy.. having one (if you economically can and I would go to one for all 3 elements to max efficiency if you’re going with just 1) is a must in my opinion

[lyric hamlet]

You know what is borderline? I'm starting to look at the illuvium like the fyre festival. 😅

[flat herald]

I dont agree. Which is best between T1 and T2 depends on many things. For scanning, one T2 will do better vs one T1. Scanning will required element (or maybe even fuel) to do so. So since T1 produce less ressources, you'll do less scanning than with a T2.

[fair temple]

I would expect T1s to be absolutely useless unless you have the T3s and T4 lands to support them. If you don't then you will not be able to either gain fuel, or get blueprints. Compare your paltry T1 land without support to a whale with 1 T4 and 12 T1 lands, and he will be able to build up all of his T1 lands 4x as fast as you.

Edit: Pardon me for saying "absolutely useless" I meant it in the sense that T1 lands on their own would reap way less benefits than T1 lands supported by T3-T4s. I would expect that benefit to be a lot less than that of whales but saying Absolutely useless was senseless on my part. :/

[hearty cradle]

good think i like to add imo

[noble drum]

i disagree, T1s are fine. All tiers are fine. They cost for what they generate. you get what you pay for. if you pay $500 for a T1 then you will prob end up generating $500/yr in rev. if you pay $5000 for a T3 then you will prob gen $5000/yr in rev. you could also buy 10 T1s and do the same thing, but that would just be too much work to manage, so it makes more sense for the T3

currently the price balance doesnt favor T1s because they hare high due to cost of entry. so T2s are the best deal

[glad junco]

Dude you are literally telling people NOT to participate if all they can afford is a T1 because it will be “useless” - just because they won’t build as fast as mega cities (which btw is a LOOOOONNNG way away) - wow you’re a piece of work my man.

just because your ROI isn’t as fast as Megas or higher tiers doesn’t mean it’s a bad investment.

“You won’t make money as quick as I do, so don’t even try” approach is childish.

Let’s agree to know nothing, until the team actually delivers, and move on tho.

[hearty cradle]

T2 is da best

[glad junco]

T2 is the best 😂

[noble drum]

at the current prices yes

T2s should theoritically cost 4x more then T1. but in the current market they only cost 3x and sometimes less

[flat herald]

I doubt you'll generate than much per year but you are right about the idea of you gain what you paid for

[noble drum]

yea no doubt that is pure speculation, but it was easier for example to just do a 1:1 cost to rev example.

[hearty cradle]

pls dnt give people ideas lol

[opal thistle]

In my estimation model with the information at hand (and excluding T5) I come up with that the most bang for your buck are in fact T2s (also not factoring in Mega Cities)

[hearty cradle]

T2s + T1s megacity is not bad too if u cant get a T3

T2 best for fuel and T1 best for elements

[opal thistle]

Sounds good to me too....but for me MCs have to have a landmark in it or you are missing the biggest thing they have to offer. So yes you NEED that t3

[noble drum]

theres diff factors to concider when deciding what to buy. IMO T2s are the best "value" at the moment. but if soneone wants to buy $20,000 worth of land, i wouldnt suggest that they buy 14x T2s. that is just too much to manage. they should prob get 3x T3 or 1 T4. its not as good a "value" but its capable of being managed.

[hearty cradle]

id like a spaceport too

[flat herald]

And if someone like me have only 500$ to spend. T1 is the best lol

[noble drum]

exactly! (though i would suggest just saving another $1000 for a T2 🙂 )

[opal thistle]

Oh yeah that is definitely a factor....I was just comparing single land buy

[opal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/word-right-truth-true-facts-gif-18582068

[hearty cradle]

for $20k def go for a megacity, u just need to manage 1 plot when its implemented

you see you would probably want to manage as few land as possible

[noble drum]

yea but then you have to manage lots and lots of "sites." a single T4 procudes more per site and thus needs less work (element and fuel)

[hearty cradle]

to progress in scanning you need to do research

imagine having to do research for each T1s u have

but then you can branch out the research tree

maybe some T1s focus on body armor

some on gauntlets

that could work

[trim pendant]

I asked this question so what’s the point of buying if everyone thinks it’s not worth it thanks for the feedback y’all I’ll just stick to the main game I guess you need lots of money to make money 😦 perfect scenario

[noble drum]

see, i dont think of the land tiers in terms of "rarity" or what is the better than the other. i see land teirs as a way to make the correct investment youare looking to make without having to "manage" an unrealistic amount of land

[hearty cradle]

define unrealistic

[noble drum]

if you simply think along the lines of "any land will generate its cost in annual revenue" then depending on what you want to invest, that is the land you should buy.

(speculation as an example...)

[hearty cradle]

i love T1s
its very easy to sell when u need liquid and u can rent it out

T1s is my def of DCA

[flat herald]

Rent land is a good option if you have unfortunately too much land to manage on your own

[noble drum]

personally i dont want to have to manage more than 3 or 4. and if i could just have to deal with 1 or 2 that would be even better. i wont have time to play overworld if im spending 4 hrs/day managing ILZ 🙂

[hearty cradle]

you should stack more silv2

[trim pendant]

My line of thought was buying the t1 land maybe it could appreciate reasonably along with its resources but I guess not ???

[hearty cradle]

T1 is the floor

wdym with its resources?

[trim pendant]

Uuhm as far I read tier 1 has some resources no ??

[hearty cradle]

all tiers do

[trim pendant]

Elements,fuel site

[trim pendant]

I know I mean it’s resources like fuel

[hearty cradle]

yea it has 1 fuel and 3 elements

[trim pendant]

We are going to be able to Exchsnge fuel for eth??

[hearty cradle]

yes

[trim pendant]

And those resources are sellable as far as I know ?

[hearty cradle]

only fuel

[flat herald]

5% of revenu goes back to land owner

[hearty cradle]

goes

[noble drum]

"fuel" rev (just for clarity)

[hearty cradle]

up to 5%

people should read the fine print lol

[noble drum]

nah, just throw money at projects blindly 🙂

[flat herald]

Yeah you can't sell elements

[noble drum]

is that true? i thought there was some way to sell/trade elements in ILZ

[hearty cradle]

not yet

But they do need to figure out wht to do with elements in late game

[noble drum]

those who lack element sites will need to procure those elements somehow. i thought there was going to be some sort of marketplace

[hearty cradle]

not that i know of

but elements is purchaseble using speed up

[flat herald]

You'll be able to transformed one element for another (with some losses) and you need element to perform action like scanning create blueprint. In very late game maybe youll be able to transformed elements into fuel... maybe just a idea

[hearty cradle]

Sorry no

you will have fuelation

[sage ether]

When does the app launch? Or has it already, i dont see it on the store

[hearty cradle]

what app

[flat herald]

No app yet. Illuvium zero is not released.

[sweet junco]

How is land price looking

Tier 1 still 600 or so?

Hoping for a lil dip so I can snag tier two

Impressed with the holders

[noble drum]

yea 580ish.

theres a T2 sittin at 1500 waiting for swiping up

[sweet junco]

Oooooooooo that’s not bad

Lemme see if I scrape together the funds

[subtle frost]

Wow

1.09 ETH

[subtle frost]

Why don't you snipe it

[noble drum]

i got 10 lands already. cant handle any more 🙂

[dry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/whoa-illuvium-ilv-illuviumio-yield-farming-gif-22290955

[slim harbor]

I remember a rough estimate of 30 mins a day, is that per land? Is that way off?

[empty path]

That's the information we got atm

[noble drum]

ive seen some more recent estimates that put it at 5-10mins, but that is once you have really gotten the land fully up and running and its less hand on.

at the beginning you will spend more time toiling over where to put certain buildings and planning your layout and balancing your resources and what to builld first or later, etc, etc. so that time spent staring and thinking over the land will be alot in the beginning. but later it will probably just be "log in quick and harvest all the sites, and log off."

and of course see if you scanned any illuvials 😉

[hearty cradle]

which region

[subtle frost]

OMG wow..

[hearty cradle]

gahh abyssal

[noble drum]

lol

[subtle frost]

is that not a good place to be?

[noble drum]

its just personal preferce for people. depending on visual styple of the landscape and the certain illuvial types

[subtle frost]

which is your perference

you think most people like ice?

[noble drum]

im a Halcyon Sea guy, others are into crystal shores or crimson (for fire illuvials)

Tiaga seems to be popular as well

[hearty cradle]

Crimson LFG!

[subtle frost]

Taiga Boreal?

[hearty cradle]

so far crimson fp has always been strongest

followed by crystal and halycon

[noble drum]

revenue wise they are all the same, its just personal pref of style and remote possiblity of blueprint type

[subtle frost]

I have one halcyon sea PLAT

of land

[hearty cradle]

nice

red and blue are the most fav among gamers

just like pokemon red and blue

[subtle frost]

got it.. nice.. I want to get the ugliest of them maybe they will be rarer LOL

[noble drum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814318329430540298/996445245980033024/IZ_HAS_Wip04.jpg?width=1127&height=676

[subtle frost]

what is that?

looks alwesome

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/hamak-chilling-beach-summer-vacation-gif-17726234

[noble drum]

my slice of heaven

[subtle frost]

yo man.. is that Illuvium?

[hearty cradle]

lmao

no thats star atlas

[subtle frost]

okay.. wow. they have hammock in space.

[hearty cradle]

hmmmmmm

spacemmock

ngl halycon is the best looking

[subtle frost]

That would be cool to see the game from this view

[hearty cradle]

and it complements crimson

having crimson + halycon is your best bet

[subtle frost]

I think Land holder should be able to watch people play from above, on their land LOL

We should be able to have bridges and ask for tolls LOL

or a fight to get through LOL

[hearty cradle]

yea CoC war

[noble drum]

here is an image of the differing styles

#💥〕leaks-discussion message

[subtle frost]

We need to have like fighting between lands like Commanding Conquer

[subtle frost]

Some how build your defence up before you go offline and people can destroy you and your Ai computer will continue to do what you are doing while you are gone for a few hours while you are being attacked

[noble drum]

halcyon just pleases my retinas better.

[subtle frost]

There should be ai that works with you on the land. or you can buy an NFT that is an Ai that you can teach to do what you are doing and how you think and it will carry on your work to some extent while you are offline and counter enemies

[hearty cradle]

and atlas is our mascot

[sharp elk]

Whenever anybody says ‘wen’ in discord one random building from one of the lands will explode. 😄

[noble drum]

one of "their" lands i hope 👀

[hollow shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-need-gif-21451408

Got any leaks?

[opal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-james-laughing-gif-10599822

[stable sable]

Hi all, was wondering regarding the ownership of several lands in IZ, and ressources that can be used in Overworld. If I craft shards with Hyperion on one land, travel portals with crypton in another and get crafted equipment with a third, will all these ressources accessible in Overworld, from an inventory or such, gathering all of those? Or will the adventure in Overworld linked/tied to ressources of only one land ?

[dry mango]

you will not access the lands in the overworld (at least not at launch) you will only buy the FUELs to do the actions in the overworld, if you buy FUEL to curing a shard for example this FUEL is in your in-game inventory

[stable sable]

I see, so the Overworld ingame inventory gathers the fuel from all lands in IZ ?

Or there is no connexion in between the 2 ?

[dry mango]

when land owners sell FUEL they go to a pool, when a player wants to buy FUEL he buys from that pool, they are connected in this way

[stable sable]

Via transaction okkkk i thought I could in Overworld just take a spoon an dip in my land inventory 😅

[quaint oyster]

i can use the fuel of my land or have to sell it and buy it again?

[dry mango]

maybe in the future, we can get together and have a barbecue on the lands

[queen folio]

Ooh... and what would be BBQ'd exactly? 👀

[stable sable]

« Some rhamphyre wings someone ? »

Ok then that’s where staking ILV gets interesting

[radiant sky]

What are you doing with spoon? 👀

[stable sable]

I’m sorry I wouldn’t dip you nowhere

Mr Spoon

Dr

I see, and the blueprints will just generate NFTs that I can use in arena/overworld right ?

[radiant sky]

Hope so 😐😄

[stable sable]

Or there’s a special pool for that ? 🤔😄

[dry mango]

atlas sirloin cap

[royal coral]

@empty path hi mate, is there some way to get beta beyond twitter ride? Can’t Wait animore to play 😭

[dry mango]

you already have the roles, just wait for the next wave

give Rich a gift it might help

[oak ruin]

"the holes"... we all have those, i guess..

[dry mango]

a lot of people don't have "twitter raider"

[oak ruin]

thats a role, not a hole...

[dry mango]

Lol ty

[silver jay]

When Zero playable?

[dry mango]

TBA

[little moon]

hello everyone on which secondary market you can see something😎?

[simple edge]

On Illuvidex uncheck the level 5 filter and check 1, 2 3 and 4 filters

[nimble lichen]

wen fix level 5 filter loading by default on illuvidex

[glad junco]

THIS! Lol it’s a minor thing but FYCKING ANNOYING

[nimble lichen]

could easily prevent sales from the uninitiated illuvidex user

[simple edge]

I have asked about it numerous times in # Illuvidex -support over several weeks, never seen a response

[frosty haven]

It is the key

[feral wharf]

When do you have update about illuvium zero

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-shrug-idk-i-dont-know-elmo-gif-16565594

[harsh acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-farley-no-idea-giddy-excited-nope-gif-5165531

[analog inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/witch-crystal-ball-fortune-teller-gif-14283208

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-22827303

[analog inlet]

mine is cuter

[empty path]

Go make some coffee

[analog inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-mug-rainbow-gif-18361133

[lyric hamlet]

Is it correct to assume that illuvium zero is complete, but we are just waiting until the team finishes the main game

[empty path]

Don't think so

[lyric hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/van-wilder-comedy-ryan-reynolds-no-sarcastic-gif-3464812

[sharp elk]

Complete is a subjective statement. I wouldn’t be surprised if zero is technically playable right now, however nobody outside the team knows how much more polishing they feel is needed before closed beta.

[waxen kiln]

You are able to buy resources with ETH in the game right? So what is gasfees are as high as they were again. That would make the game very expensive

[empty path]

!imx

[dry forge]

Illuvium uses Immutable X as a layer 2 solution. This means that you won’t be charged network gas fees for minting and trading and instead only need to transfer funds between the Ethereum Mainnet and Immutable X. This keeps the player's cost of doing business low, maximizing potential gain. For more information about Immutable X check out:

#🔗〕helpful-links message

[waxen kiln]

aaah ok, so imx will also be used for buying ingame

thanks

[queen folio]

Just to clarify, if you're looking to buy/spend resources in game, you will be buying the different fuels that are available.

Fuel will be bought using ETH.

[spark ruin]

is the mobile game out?

[terse rain]

not yet, they pushed back the release to do more polishing. keep an ear out for an announcement soon

[queen folio]

Not yet. Land is purchasable now on the IlluviDEX-- closed Alpha release is to be announced though!

[waxen kiln]

Yes, but everytime I buy fuel for instance, do I pay ETH gas fees. Or are the transactions on layer 2?

[queen folio]

Transactions are on layer 2 via ImmutableX 🙂
But you'll still be spending ETH, rather than the IMX token

(No gas fees 👍 )

[waxen kiln]

Yeah that's no problem ofcourse. Just were a bit worried that you would have to pay 50 $ in gas fees for 20$ of fuel 😝

Thanks for clarifying

[queen folio]

Oof that would be awful. Yeah, the team definitely doesn't want that for us!
Let the good times rollll 😄

[lusty verge]

hi good evening. i just want to ask if I missed the blueprint scanning thingy?

[empty path]

No, alpha is not up yet. Keep an eye on #📣〕announcements for updates.

[lusty verge]

oh! thanks! i'm so busy at work I can barely keep up with crypto updates 😄

[safe crater]

Anyone knows why it shows a -60% here? :)

[quaint oyster]

It's the volume

[dry mango]

volume

[safe crater]

Thanks guys, got a little scared there

[thin wolf]

Imx has Trade rewards again so go out and sell your lands preferably in the north of shardbluff.

[open anchor]

It's time again let's clean some floors on immutable! Make those rewards!

[inland hare]

price of lands will increase you believe?

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-22827303

[paper flame]

What you got to say now Frag?

[empty path]

?

[slim harbor]

He knows what you did last summer 😶

[empty path]

So do I, who cares

[paper flame]

Bad joke. Sorry

[empty path]

Don't get it

[paper flame]

Exactly.

[summer salmon]

They are only 20k

[flat herald]

Hard to tell. We are in a bear market. If the game is a success sure.

[noble drum]

what bear market.....?

[opal thistle]

Only 20K for this 1st land sale but total there will be 100k

[gentle grove]

And when are they going to sell those 80k lands

[dry mango]

only when there is demand then it should take a long time

[gentle grove]

Ok

[dreamy mist]

Why in the north(worst place there?? Didn't mentioned that there are better lands from location(always thought only the fuel element sites are improtant

[quaint oyster]

its a joke...he wants to buy there

[flat herald]

Better not to ask bro... better not to ask

[summer salmon]

But not soon.

[opal thistle]

Nop, as Tariquinho said, only when there is demand for it and that should take a long time

[quartz shell]

Can we have a verified Illuvium land NFT holder chat channel

[shell heart]

Hope zero opens up to play soon for the alpha my land is getting overgrown since mint and need some maintenance

[dense ridge]

I believe Kieran said “end of year” in the SA debate today

[shell heart]

Yea hoping gor alpha before then
End year weeds are going be chest high

[dense ridge]

Get grass or earth type Illuvials to feast on the weeds

[lyric hamlet]

Can I quit my job when zero comes out?

Will I make 5k a month or more?

[nimble lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-22827303

[lethal thunder]

When are we playing? My land is full of grass now 😏

[nimble lichen]

The seasons will change and the snowfall will cover your grass. The spring will come and renewed hope will once again your land will be full of grass.

It is at that time you will play.

[harsh acorn]

Lore nuggets 👀

[austere whale]

I have asked this multiple times but apparently they don't wanna implement collabland bot

[quartz shell]

Yea I wonder if Collabland bot works with IMX

[austere whale]

I guess it should work but Aaron said it would draw lot of scams as well.

[tardy fern]

Whats the overall eth volume thats been traded of land on secondary?

[lethal thunder]

My plot is in the tropical place

[nimble lichen]

checks notes... the rainy season will come...

[thin wolf]

Close to 4000eth in almost 2 months

[hearty cradle]

damn the saudis did 8.8k volume in 20 days

[lusty breach]

The Illuvidex cut is 6%?

[thin wolf]

Need to pump that oil😅

[thin wolf]

Pretty sure it is 4%

[empty path]

Yes, I believe 2% for IMX and 4% for revdis

[lusty breach]

I see, I hope the team plans to change the way the commission is calculated because right now it makes no sense that it adds the commission on top of my price. I have to use a calculator to put the correct price so that the final price is what i want it to be.

[empty path]

I think this is because you'll get the price that you listed it for

[quartz shell]

Where do you see volume?

[empty path]

I look on immutascan

[crude bramble]

It’s 0 don’t worry

[empty path]

No, it's not?

[crude bramble]

Almost 🤷🏻‍♂️

[viscid totem]

Hey all

[tardy fern]

thanks, think theres quite a lot of new money that can flow in then

[thin wolf]

For sure, when we get a date and alpha release we will see a lot more volume imo

[tardy fern]

fingers crossed

[thin wolf]

Everyday😬

[near berry]

I would appreciate a dev playing demo vid of IZ, if we really have to wait for months for the release.

[noble drum]

yea i was hoping to see another IZ gameplay vid. that one from months back was great but love to see another

[radiant sky]

As far as i remember, Johnny said he will leak by himself if there is no official leak for a period of time... So, stay tuned

[near berry]

That would be great. Go Johnny! 🔥

[thin wolf]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[umbral pecan]

Beta??

[thin wolf]

I heard they are rolling out 10k more betas,you need Ranger role(level 5) and twitter raider role.

[deep oxide]

How do you get the ranger role?

[radiant sky]

You need to Chat to get some experience to get lvl 5

[thin wolf]

Just by beeing active in discord without spam.

[little moon]

so then ilv zero starts? ways said 6-8 weeks before land sale but over passed that time

[hearty cradle]

siike

[analog inlet]

That was an estimate No known date when Illuvium zero beta will be#🎮〕illuvium-zero doesn't go live till illuvium over world does there is no official estimate on when that will occur.

[oak ruin]

Land NFTs shouldn't have that much volume in trades.... the whole point of owning land is to use it, not trade it.

[noble drum]

we wish we could use it.....we wish we could....

[hearty cradle]

use it he said...

[empty path]

I believe Monday it's 8 weeks

[small star]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cry-crying-sad-sad-sad-face-gif-22300317

[worthy panther]

It's funny because Kieran told Wagner that it's unethical to sell NFTs you can't play with 😁...i don't complain too much even i've got Land that gives me nothing and i've no game (even the beta) but seeing this debate and Kieran behaviour makes me sad and angry at the same time. So i will start to ask when everytime to become à ranger and play the little beta...it's better than nothing....so when?

[empty path]

When you become a ranger? That’s all up to yourself

[celest narwhal]

The fact is Illuvium zero we know is a game that exists, it isn’t out yet but it’s build. Same for the Illuvium overworld. We can see the progress, the sneak peek almost daily can’t be forged, only if the artist worked we have that. And for the arena in a bugged game (limited for now) and will be with 100 on the 151 illuvial in the pb2 and we can play it. The game isn’t for the open public but we know where every game setting is at what stage. That are not little information.

[white cedar]

I'm surprised at how well Illuvium Land has done in the current market

Land prices haven't really fluctuated at all

[wicked horizon]

What’s good y’all, everyone surviving the waiting game

[little moon]

Volume is kinda trash but I guess thats to be expected in a bear market with the game not out yet.

[white cedar]

agreed

[little moon]

You know anything about when IMX will have the offer system ready?

[wicked horizon]

Hoping to get access to check out this game soon enough, pretty sure I’ve been qualified for awhile

[dry mango]

dutch auction magic

[empty path]

@whole spear give this man beta

[whole spear]

Ser

Dm me pls

[wicked horizon]

🙏🙏

[sharp elk]

Star Atlas - Maybe out in 10 years. Illuvium - Maybe out in a few months. I’m sure you can understand the difference. 😏

[hearty cradle]

jesus not this channel too

[winter python]

Good luck I been working on this forever

[empty path]

He is in

[winter python]

Yeah I gave up it’s all good, I’m just keep waiting forever 👌🏽

[empty path]

8 messages is not going to do it

[winter python]

Lol ok 👌🏽

[queen folio]

And by this, Fraggy means one of the major factors in gaining beta access has been to get the "Ranger" role here in Discord. That role automatically comes when you've chatted enough to reach level 5 🙂

[winter python]

I guess actually putting my money in this game doesn’t count for much…. Just gotta talk in discord huh 🤔 ok my bad I don’t talk much

[sterile raven]

I’m pretty sure I got in solely because I am in YGG, but could be wrong.

[real solstice]

Im ready to play

[visual lion]

Me too!

[real solstice]

But tired to wait. Was expecting 8 weeks max after land sale

[sterile raven]

Aren’t we expecting end of year now?

[visual lion]

I know, just have to be patient and let the team work

[analog inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-patience-sw3-gif-21070142

[oak ruin]

LOL we posted the same gif at the same time in different channels

[grave spade]

My thoughts on Zero timing that dev team need to create blueprints tied to Overworld game (illuvials list for starters), so if there is a flactuations in illuvitar design fe, it might go down and for illZero as well

And that also mean that timing for Ovewworld and Zero is tight to each other