💥〕leaks-discussion

[hazy sigil]

He answered all the questions I could think of related to the effect stacking

If multiple units are applying different buffs/debuffs (unique) then even if they affect the same base stat they are always applied

If the same buff/debuff is being applied (whether applied by the same unit or different) then it depends if they stack or not

I'll let him get on to page 46 in the documentation now 😏

[granite musk]

And there are many different stacking options. Highest only, Inclusive Or, Accumulative....

This is why this game is so complex. Because everything is just a spreadsheet in the end. But it's so easy to make units once you make the game engine.

And to be honest I don't know what @sand grove complains about. It's only 50,000 man-hours of work. Go to Siberia if you think this is hard. 😉

[worn sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-dark-side-meditate-yoda-may-the-force-be-with-you-gif-11767027

[hollow bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-chris-pratt-head-explode-gif-13794084

[worn sparrow]

Nice ambiance --->#🚰〕leaks message
Where it's from ?

[drowsy hamlet]

what kind of debuff are we looking at here? slow, poison, burn, -def, -atk?
im guessing there are buffs as well?
does the enhancement card stack with illuvial buff/debuff?

excited to see some HoTs and DoTs

[drowsy hamlet]

and some CC like taunt, pull, stun, daze, confusion, interrupts, blind, sleep, hex, fear, mind control, banish, silence, root

sometimes CC has diminishing return if used against the same target more than once

[granite musk]

Steppes

[granite musk]

Yeah, we don't have all that nonsense. Just the good ones.

[drowsy hamlet]

diminishing return is good, because you dnt want a cc meta to be too op. you will see down the line

you are going to do rebalancing anyway

do you play much mmorpg?

[mint silo]

You don.t want everything balanced like chess board either and i disagree Dimishing returns are good.

[drowsy hamlet]

a well balanced meta is quite impossible, but then sometimes devs like to buff/nerf meta to spice things up

they are going to see illuvials usage percentage and try to promote those in the lower bracket

i mean you have spent resources in design and testing. but sometimes a revamp is needed

[flat rose]

The team will not do the same sorts of things as super nerf/buff teams like riot. The goal is small adjustments

[drowsy hamlet]

your meaning of small might be different to mine

is 5% small?

[flat rose]

No

That’s pretty big I’d think.

[upper light]

I reckon people are underestimating how counterplay will work. If there are clear counters to some independently powerful strategies, I think we could have a fairly balanced game. There will always be emergent meta strategies though, no one can stop gamers from gaming.

[drowsy hamlet]

i dnt play LoL tho, i play dota2

[flat rose]

This is not a moba.

[drowsy hamlet]

meta is meta

doesnt matter what you are playing

there is meta in mmorpg, there is meta in card game, there is meta in moba

[flat rose]

Meta doesn’t work quite the same on autobattlers.

[upper light]

I think looking at TCG meta and how they develop, or Autobattler meta and how they develop, is much more topical to Illuvium's Autobattler than MOBA metas.

[flat rose]

Meta changes as new cards are available and as new units and stats are available. But when it all stays the same…

[drowsy hamlet]

you know TFT is based on moba right?

[flat rose]

I’ve played them. Yes.

[upper light]

Yup, but the engine driving the game is much different than the meta in game. A good "team comp" in TFT is different than what you'll see pros playing in LoL. Same applies for Dota Underlords.

[flat rose]

Meta can roll. But it will primarily be player driven as opposed to dev team nerfs and buffs.
That’s the goal

[drowsy hamlet]

well yea ofcourse in a card game luck play a big role

[drowsy hamlet]

we'll see

[flat rose]

Except in illuvium ranked play we get to look at and choose from our entire decks that we bring into the match.

[drowsy hamlet]

i mean that's the dream right, when it is balanced and whts left is players' skill

even mechanic changes my friend

[upper light]

From what I've seen, the design is oriented towards player skill and intuition. Whether it succeeds in being a well balanced player driven experience remains to be seen.

[drowsy hamlet]

yep, every dev is aiming for that

[upper light]

I have no doubt that some combinations of Illuvials will be strong, there might be a set of Illuvials you play as an opener more often than not, but the counterplay that follows will be the depth IMO.

[flat rose]

Except for riot. They make drastic swings to change stuff. Purposefully. They run entire new collections in TFT.

[upper light]

Some devs aim for that with words, Illuvium (IMO) has aimed for that with design. Building the systems that enable counterplay based on player decisions is most of the struggle, lots of devs never get there.

[drowsy hamlet]

lol yea greed

especially when new skins are dropping like its hot

skins = meta

[flat rose]

I hear the Warwicks are quite good at TFT. And Aaron is making a better autobattler.

[drowsy hamlet]

aaron are you going to drop skin and make them meta?

[flat rose]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[drowsy hamlet]

or better, give illuvitar +stat

[mint silo]

that what makes it fun -- and no matter how the victory is earned its still the "better " still player won. ill take a MTG game over chess any day

[drowsy hamlet]

why do you need to give me nightmares

[mint silo]

considering Illuvium is a deck building card game with an auto battle combat...

[worn quest]

@sage thistle

[flat rose]

You can’t pronounce things either. Your day will come.

[worn quest]

bahahahaha im the fuckin worst man 🤣

on my anime gaming channel you should here hear me butcher names on that

[flat rose]

You know it’s coming. So you remind everyone how bad you are at it like every video. So no one will make a fun of you for the rest of time. But we will.

[flat rose]

Lol Japanese names probably

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-harry-potter-dumbledore-gif-24612427

[worn quest]

https://tenor.com/view/team-work-300-gif-18834279

i take the piss outa myself so they dont get the chance

[flat rose]

https://tenor.com/view/300-spartans-illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22600822

[feral wren]

wait wait wait, calm down... balancing TFT is WAY harder than it will be for Illuvium let me explain

[drowsy hamlet]

im sensing a wall of text coming

[flat rose]

https://tenor.com/view/schmidt-novel-text-message-text-message-gif-3544541

[drowsy hamlet]

wait gotta grab my reading glasses

[feral wren]

in Illuvium as far as we know you won't have spatulas, to make characters do stuff they're not intended to, like let's say good old Demolisher spat back in set 3.
you won't have 5000 of possible item combinations to find the 6 perfect one to itemize perfectly 2 of your champs
the way synergies work in TFT offering heals, atk speed, AD etc. won't be in Illuvium

therefore a 5AD buff/nerf in TFT (DEPENDING ON the champ and it's synergies might either be DRAMATIC, or not even noticeable)

[drowsy hamlet]

im gonna need coffee for this brb

[feral wren]

here the balancing we'll have to do is : oh this illuvial gets hyper too quickly or has too much DPS when paired with this specific item, ok nerf either the illuvial or the item if the item is also problematic on other illuvials.

[flat rose]

Augments are close to spatulas. But you are correct. The stat/mechanics are different. Which is why Aaron and Ben will be able to make minor tweaks.

[drowsy hamlet]

can we vote @feral wren for council

[feral wren]

we won't be changing the affinities effects

while in TFT a lot of the balance goes by the traits themselves

[feral wren]

actually trying to write more to be able to apply xDDDD

[drowsy hamlet]

why are they aiming for a simpler mechanics?

[flat rose]

I mean you aren’t technically blocked right?

[drowsy hamlet]

do you need a bot for that?

[flat rose]

Eww that’s 💯 against the #✍〕rules

[drowsy hamlet]

🤭

i mean me, im a bot

[feral wren]

well the 3 to 7 elements circle is used for more than 30 years in RPGs for a reason, the whole concept makes that it's automatically balanced so in my opinion it's definitely the way to go for Illuvium

the reason they didn't in TFT tho is because that would have suck if you had a SUPER comp but then just lose because your fire comp loses to a low-cap water one. also how would you actually winstreak ?

^this actually still happens tho due to matchups and some interactions

[flat rose]

Yeah different battle series system.

[feral wren]

well i need to be ranger to be able to write in the council elections room in order to apply xD

[flat rose]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-really-o-rly-owl-gif-7905924

[feral wren]

yeah got the information yesterday when i tried to apply XD

[flat rose]

Except not officially. The official nomination form is elsewhere. Or at least has been in the past.

[feral wren]

well if you somehow can find the link, add me as a friend and send it to me, i'd be more than happy 🙂

[feral wren]

and just to comeback on this: augments are litterally the reason i didn't enjoy TFT last months. they make you spike WAY TOO HARD and add way too much variance to the game. and even tho i can agree on the fact that it hypes the casuals, most competitive players are actually leaving

[drowsy hamlet]

never like augments

[feral wren]

augments were bllshit, same for chosens, and GALAXIES... so yeah. game is going the wrong way in my opinion and that's why i'm coming back to pokémon / joining Illuvium

[drowsy hamlet]

but ILV has augments

[feral wren]

not random, and that makes all the difference

[drowsy hamlet]

it's not?

[feral wren]

let's say i play assassins : if i get the +assassin augment or an augment that boosts my damage like knife's edge i am in a trully good spot... but what if i get offered only crap augments ?

[drowsy hamlet]

that't the RNG

[feral wren]

yeah and a bit of RNG makes the game fun, too much RNG makes it unviable competitively

[drowsy hamlet]

@mint silo said that what makes it fun

[flat rose]

Wow y’all saying same things.

[drowsy hamlet]

ok i get it TFT has tooo many augments

but it doesnt mean ILV should a few general augments

im trying to find enhancement leak

[feral wren]

not too many augments, too much RNG : crits even tho you can max it are RNG based, if i have a jeweled gauntlet in my ahri (making she has 40% crit chance) but she never crits or always crits the difference is huge.
cards you get offered, items you get, even a misplaced zephyr will then often have a 25 to 50% chances to disable the worst unit for you

[flat rose]

I hit you up on #799010390201466880. Should get you to the website and then to the nomination form.

[feral wren]

thanks dude

now people should fix their mental state of : good TFT players are gonna be gods in Illuvium because in my opinion, Pokémon and trading card games players are those with the best knowledge for this game

[ember steeple]

beautiful song

I personally like the horns in the theme, makes it sound really galactic and scifi

[feral wren]

indeed xD

[drowsy hamlet]

i personally like chances

but there is doka

[solemn knoll]

i just wanna play the game.

[drowsy hamlet]

what game

[solemn knoll]

Illuvium, just patiently waiting...

[bright pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

[drowsy hamlet]

what are you talking about

illuvium is not a game

[bright pawn]

He’s waiting patiently for the game. Like us

[drowsy hamlet]

it is a planet

[bright pawn]

Wordplay. It’s also a company 0.o

[drowsy hamlet]

it is also a state of mind

[bright pawn]

Way of life

[drowsy hamlet]

we are illuvium

ok too much coffee

[bright pawn]

Or not enough…?

[final holly]

Good idea, I'll go get a new one

[drowsy hamlet]

oh wait so you are suppose to drink it

[bright pawn]

I actually dont drink coffee.

[worn sparrow]

It's time to hunt the Lynx!
https://tenor.com/view/nelson-simpsons-the-hunt-is-gif-5437418

[urban aspen]

Grant… this is too nuts!!

[old sierra]

I know

But guess what

That's no rtx lol

[urban aspen]

So glad I got a gpu with RTX! 😁 can’t wait

[junior thunder]

Thanks for the new wallpaper😁 @old sierra

[drowsy hamlet]

can we play it 1st person

it has ray tracing??

[bright pawn]

SAAAAAMEEEE :p

[worn sparrow]

Will Lynx need particular items/mining/plants to evolve stage 2-3 ? @formal rivet

[bright pawn]

Good question

[worn sparrow]

How many Tier 0 Illuvials there is ?
Atippo, Doka, Flish, Grokko, Take my money ?

[bright pawn]

5 i think

[flat rose]

Oh yeah atippo I forgot that one. Is atippo the empath then?

[worn sparrow]

yes!

[junior thunder]

I’m super excited about this!!!

[worn sparrow]

Which Illuviual is Tier 0 and Rogue has Class ?
Atippo, Doka, Flish, Grokko, + ?

[untold dew]

Just watched Illuvium insider

We need an “ape” character
Adorable lil monkey to King Kong

[junior thunder]

I think we already got 3 apes😂 Aaron, Kieran and Grant

[mint silo]

#🚰〕leaks message

[old sierra]

nooby alert

[ionic mortar]

@cinder stirrup @summer frost @dusk stone @calm summit @livid ridge

You guys probably cause me to walk all day with my virtual reality glasses on. You are on a roll, and I love it!!!!! Let’s keep it coming!

[spring quest]

wouldn't that be a fun spin/addition to the game? catching illuvials in virtual reality/3d? #pokemongogotupgraded

[ionic mortar]

It would most certainly be a perfect addition, only I think I will end up on the other side of my town with these huge environments!!

[loud hare]

Grant the overworld is looking incredible

[jaunty umbra]

No kidding. beauuuuutiful

[worn sparrow]

Check out our the Last 2 Twitted post from Infoluvial if you want to know more about the ***last Leak ***from Aaron about the Hyper System.
https://twitter.com/infoluvial/status/1500080917851041793

The Infoluvial (@infoluvial)

Check out the latest changes to the Hyper system as leaked by Aaron during the first Illuvium Insider series.

• Hyper System reworked to have an aura based on its Affinity.

https://t.co/wrp43dk8MX

Twitter · Mar 5, 2022, 12:08 PM

[lean dragon]

Feels like flish

[mint silo]

@azure holly did I miss somthing ?

[old sierra]

Lol shut up

[mint silo]

LOL

[deep whale]

so there is something like a spore or frost rhamphyre?

[granite musk]

No? How is that like what I said?

You can find Rhamphyre is Halcyon Sea. It’s just super rare. And it will still be Inferno Slayer.

[urban aspen]

Grant, based on what you said in the last leak? Does that mean you guys are pretty much 99% done with Crimson Waste?

[old sierra]

I wouldn't say 99%, from a set dressing and lighting point of view its ready for pb2 but we have to have tech artist work done, optimisation and gameplay mechanics/UI implemented to the same standard

[urban aspen]

ah fair fair! That's still great to hear!

Seriously well done man! You guys should be so fucking proud of what the team has accomplished!

[old sierra]

Well just gonna have to wait and see how the next few weeks go, so much work being done

[junior thunder]

Can’t wait for the next zone

[old sierra]

The team will swap to Halcyon soon

[junior thunder]

Wen swimming?

[urban aspen]

very keen to see what you show us next week!

And I know you're gonna bless us with those Halcyon leaks as soon as the team starts making some progress hahah

[worn sparrow]

Anyone know where this Lynx image coming from ?
Could not find it on discord leaks.

[drowsy hamlet]

which affi is this

[worn sparrow]

I think it's Nature.

[uncut hazel]

looks poison to me

[worn sparrow]

Lynx don't have composite Affinity or Class.

[flat rose]

It’s one of the early ideations I believe. Not sure where it was posted. But in the discord somewhere.

The glowing ball up top between the ears always made us think psion class.

[worn sparrow]

l'm not sure i'm following you on that call.
Atippo has Empath for class but the has the same ball ?

Or what your saying is the Lynx above is Arcane Floralynx ?

[flat rose]

Atippo had not been shared when we first saw that lynx. So we could have been wrong or things could have changed. But yes we thought it was an arcane floralynx

#💥〕leaks-discussion message

[worn sparrow]

Way more clear Thanks @flat rose

[worn sparrow]

What Illuvial is this one ?
Is it a Tier0 rogue Illuvial named Satoshi ? nvm it's Axon...

[surreal citrus]

Looks like axodon or axon imo

[slow ether]

axon imo

[worn sparrow]

yep, so what is the Illuvial Tier0 Rogue ? Can't find anything on it.

[loud hare]

Thats cause rogues are sneaky

[hazy glacier]

is it possible to find all the lelaks of illuviums at one place?

[hollow bobcat]

Some have been accumulating info. Like Linkky above and Scott (Illuvimod)

[worn sparrow]

Yes, if your patient. Infoluvial is working on many tools to help the community on our website. Otherwise you will have to scroll a lot.

[granite knot]

Illuvialmaster.com has a lot of the leaked illuvials as well.

[hollow bobcat]

Cool! are you the creator/owner?

[granite knot]

I am yes

[hollow bobcat]

Awesome! congrats on the website! I've been checking it out too.

[granite musk]

Axon

[granite musk]

I don't think we've shown it yet.

Animations are being done at the moment. Soon Tier 0 will be complete. This means we're closing in on PB2 features. Obviously, a lot still to do, but I think we are accelerating.

[drowsy hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/claire-dancing-baby-sunglasses-toddler-gif-16745462

[hallow condor]

Congrats are in order then

[granite musk]

No. Not until it's done.

[hallow condor]

Are you saying you shouldn’t be happy with small improvements.

You’re taking my congratulations. You have no choice

No it motivates them. And I’m not congratulating them on something unfinished. I’m doing it for where they are up to

They’ve reached a milestone.

They have no choice but to take my congratulations

[junior thunder]

Aaron is a perfectionist. It’s an illness😂 need a dose of Kieran to cure him

[elder vigil]

Hey Aaron, quick question. Have you guys used extinct New Zealand animals the Haast Eagle or the Giant Moa? I am about to spend the next couple of days on the concept and I am hoping these aren't one of the unleaked characters.

[mint silo]

if they are un leaked they he wont be able to confirm or deny it unless he wants to Leak them 😆

[elder vigil]

True 🤣 My dms are open! I swear confidentiality.

[final holly]

Pls be careful for scams

[granite musk]

Congrats accepted.

[granite musk]

Kieran is a perfectionist too, we just have different focuses.

[final holly]

What brother got most girls as teenagers? 😏

[granite musk]

We don't even measure acceleration. We don't even measure jerk. It's all about the pop for us.

[granite musk]

One of the others.

[granite musk]

We either have, or have not, used those animals. It's 50:50

[mint silo]

@elder vigil called it 😆

[elder vigil]

How about a cryptic clue so I can figure it out? I've already started drawing 😩

[elder vigil]

Hey Grant, quick question. Have you guys used extinct NZ animals the Haast Eagle or the Giant Moa? Looking for a hint before I flip a coin and go for it.

[hallow condor]

peer presure

[granite musk]

The wispy winds up North doth blow.
And carry with them tales of woe.
Will Aaron help so thou can crow?
The answer, young one, always “No.”

[worn sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/pure-poetry-john-oliver-pure-poetry-pure-poetry-react-john-oliver-gif-15495633

[worn sparrow]

@granite musk , has you said during the last Illuvium interview on youtube ---> The Last Illuvial your favorite Illuvial is Tyro correct my spelling if i'm wrong 🤓
Are you talking about the Stage 1 or 3 ?

Name Line Tier Stage Affinity Class
TreeKangaroo 1 Fire Rogue
Tirthas TreeKangaroo 2 Fire Revenant
TreeKangaroo 3

[granite musk]

Tiru

[worn sparrow]

Stage 1 I guess since the name is short.

[sly snow]

Possibly. But I don't believe there's any sort of character requirement across the stages.
We have Stage 1 Rhino Beetle - "Scarabok"
While Stage 3 Pangolin - "Sear"

[rancid frigate]

Not true, Stage 1 name is Tirthastias Bartholomew III. So it gets shorter.

[deep whale]

ngl that was impressive, you should have poetry paper pieces being able to be found in overworld to get to know lore

[sly snow]

Have you recited this poem to (or "at") your daughter?
Seems like this could be a good response in certain situations

[deep whale]

the wispy winds up South doth saunter.
And carry with them tales of laughter.
Will Aaron help so thou can success?
The answer, old one, sometimes.. “Yes.”

please confirm this leak so i can sleep! or i may have to forever weep..

[sturdy ridge]

Should have rhymed succeed with indeed. Let yourself down 🙂

[frosty imp]

Nice to see another kiwi In here! Although our flightless bird is pretty useless and probably doesn't make for a good illuvial concept 😅

Maybe there's a concept in the Lazer eye kiwi that nearly won our national referendum to change our flag

[hollow bobcat]

No worries! They were able to make Kukka out of another flightless bird, the dodo.

[elder vigil]

I'm hoping some of your verses make it in game! Would be fun to read, cheers for the answer 😉

[elder vigil]

NZ had the largest predatory bird that's ever existed, pouākai or the haast eagle. It used to feed on the giant moa. I think theres an exhibition at Te Papa, but yeah we not rocking anything that cool anymore 😆

[frosty imp]

Can see a couple giant eagles at Wellington airport too. Can swap gandalf with an illuvium character and we're away haha haast eagle would definitely be a cool concept design for an illuvial

[worn sparrow]

I wonder what look like a Tier 0 Atippo Stage 2 What will be the affinity if Stage 1 is: ex: Water as Affinity and Empath as Class.
Will they have composite or no ?

[granite musk]

No.

[granite musk]

I hope not.

[flat rose]

My understanding is that t0s just get a little bigger when fused up to the next stage.

[rare pebble]

@granite musk I have an idea for the last illuvial but the dev team would most likely hate me ahahah

[hollow bobcat]

Ooohhh, interesting! as in Shia level?

[rare pebble]

Nah i just dont know if it is easy to code what I'm thinking. It all depends on how they made their code I guess. Hard to explain without spoiling my idea

[granite musk]

We made a burning koala. You can't do worse.

[rare pebble]

Its about the effect, I dont know if it is easy to code. May I give you a two liner pitch in DM just to verify if I even care about making a longer videa

I still have to think about the evolutions and stuff, but i wanna know if the general idea is realist

[granite musk]

I will ignore that DM. You're on your own.

[rare pebble]

RIP I was writing the DM ahahah

@final holly may I DM you my idea, I'd like to know if you think it is stupid or what

[final holly]

DM me your stupid idea

[granite musk]

https://tenor.com/view/letter-kenny-knackers-kick-gif-10937168

[tough beacon]

I'm too lazy to propose but I think a Giant beaver (extinc animal from Canada) would do a great water counter illuvial by building a dam

Nothing is impossible to code!

[rare pebble]

I know but I've seen some game code structure so bad that it would not allow original idea. I'm thinking of gloomhaven digital. I dont know how good is Illuvium code

They admitted to me that they coded new functions as they created the classes, Instead of making a strong code base that would allow basically any function

well not admitted

but it was implied

heh, guess I'll work on that tomorrow

[granite musk]

I'm gunna have to halt you right there...

[tough beacon]

Haha I'm a dev too and that is what we say to our client... But there is a price

[granite musk]

Us? We're making functions all the time. But that isn't a problem. It just extends the existing data-driven tools.

[rare pebble]

no i'm talking about devs of gloomhaven

digital

[final holly]

Ask for DM and then makes it public. DM's closed again

[rare pebble]

AAnd yeah it looks like they dont have easy functions that access the data available on the board

[tough beacon]

Even the worst spaghetti code can be refactor in the end, but on blockchain I suppose you kinda have to live with the minted nft forever so maybe have to think carefully

[rare pebble]

Sorry. I deleted it but it kinda is too late.

[final holly]

Doesn't matter 😉

[tough beacon]

But then in x years they could do a whole new game from scratch or even an illuvium : arena 2 from a new codebase as long as we can play with same set of nft I guess

I don't know how it works in game dev but in my field I hate to touch any codebase older than 3 years

I suppose with 180 devs you can keep up with the refactors / integrating newer tech

[rare pebble]

Man I've seen a function for a card effect that checked if the character had half his life, but there was no function simply accessing the total HP of the character.

So when they copied that class from the paper board game, they made a new function for this. and it was impossible to use the function to check any other half hp other than self. AAbout that, the way to reference targets in their code was soooo weird.

Idk if I was to do something like this, I'd start by creating functions to access HP and power and distance and cards left and position of ally and everything first, and then I'd copy the paper boardgame cards

edit: still talking aabout gloomhaven here if someone wonders lol i feel like im not clear

The card effects are pretty basic but hell it looked hard in the code

[tough beacon]

I've read critics saying this team does not have a lot of gamedev experience but I think they have made a good choice to scope their first game as an autobattler as I think the way they are doing it shouldn't be too complex to code

[junior thunder]

Don’t worry about the coding, just propose your idea, if it’s good, they will make it come true.

[solemn knoll]

I've posted this on the general but I guess, this is a more proper place to ask this, sorry. "quick 1, it doesn't necessarily have to have a voice-over when you post a YouTube video of your #thelastilluvial entry, right? or does it?"

[rare pebble]

I'm kinda worried about my bad english accent too. But I think if you can make a solid video that gets shared, without a voice over, it should be okay

[final holly]

https://tenor.com/view/david-attemborough-sad-global-warming-gif-18850531

[solemn knoll]

yeah, English is not my Native language and I kinda suck using words whenever I explain something. I guess, I'll just read whatever is in the video, haha.

[junior thunder]

I think it doesn’t matter if you have voice over or not. As long as people understand your design concept and include the basic information required.

Normally a character design is drawings with written explanation. I guess the reason for a video requirement, is to eliminate those who are not as passionate/serious as we are, at the same time save more time for them to grasp our designs.

[rare pebble]

I cant draw, it is going to be photos from google

[final holly]

Stolen art?!

[junior thunder]

You can use references.

Let’s say you use a elephant tusk to reference the illuvial tusk, and tiger fur as another reference.

[spring quest]

I feel like we haven't gotten any juicy leaks in a while. Waiting until the last Illuvials contest is over maybe?

[rare pebble]

theyy busy

[junior thunder]

We will have halcyon sea this week as Grant said.

[spring quest]

Can't wait! That one will be epic I think!

[calm tiger]

3rd day without a leak... my hands start to shake, my knees are weak and I am sweating...

[old sierra]

hahaha I said I'd jump onto it, nothing about leaks you crazed loonie! 😛

[junior thunder]

Well I remember Aaron said someone already leaked the entire 150 illuvials, let’s see if he leaks a few screenshots of Halcyon sea

[uncut hazel]

What, isn't Grant the Leak Lead Engineer? what changed?

new region new role?

[worn sparrow]

Correct me if i'm wrong, Tier 0 have no composite since they stay baby all 3 stages ?

[hollow bobcat]

Not really. Let's start with this message. #🥩〕staking message

[worn sparrow]

So it's all about basic stats witch increase with Stages.

[hollow bobcat]

Seems like it 😁

[hollow bobcat]

Also...Tier 0 have fixed class but different possible affinities. So if there is no combination for these affinities when they go up in stage, can we only fuse together Dokka's with the same affinity?

[frosty eagle]

Does anyone know if for instance Water will have a bonus 2 times stronger against Earth than against Fire?
Like +20% against Earth and +10% against Fire

[hollow bobcat]

Yes, @torpid goblet did a great discussion about this in his YouTube video.

[hollow bobcat]

Check this out: https://youtu.be/fifB8IPEEU0

[torpid goblet]

Don’t think of it as a percentage.

[ember steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-demand-the-simpsons-burger-gif-11334852

wen new #🚰〕leaks

[frosty eagle]

Ok great thanks, I was actually binge watching your videos but I still had to watch your last ones 🙂

[torpid goblet]

Awesome! Hope you’re getting some valuable information.

[urban aspen]

Come on man, if he’s watching your videos of course he getting valuable info hahahahah 😜😁

[torpid goblet]

Sometimes I put on videos in the background and only half pay attention haha

[granite knot]

Do we know if class against class match ups will effect the hyper count or just affinities?

[rancid frigate]

I think it's just affinities

[rare pebble]

Both!

[sturdy ridge]

That affinities video is great btw. Super helpful good stuff 🙂

[torpid goblet]

Thank you!!

[solemn knoll]

I think it will also be applied to classes. Because I’m Nijafe’s video. He mentioned that it is possible to have +16 or -16 advantage/disadvantage and I believe Aaron confirm it (don’t quote me) it is correct @torpid goblet ?

[granite knot]

ahh yes I do remember that video. But we don't know what classes are strong/weak vs other yet from what I understand then?

[torpid goblet]

Yes, correct

[torpid goblet]

So is it "Ranger" or "Hunter" @old sierra

[loud hare]

Awesome leak

[junior thunder]

Aaron said Ranger in an early interview months back

[worn sparrow]

According to the last leak --> Hunter it's @torpid goblet

[urban aspen]

The new health / omega bars looks well better

[worn quest]

so is that pistol no affinity? i cant get a clear image if its water or neutral when i zoom in, and it is plain background with no "water pistol" just "pistol" would make sense coz its a T0. also, in previous leaks the armor had a class or affinity and this armor has none, but its a T0 and that would be consistant with the idea of the weapon

Also, anyone got a list of what the stat icons are? HP, grit and resolve are fairly easy but the rest are harder for me

Also... stages for weapons? fuse them to go up stages?

[flat rose]

Seems likely. I always thought the basic pistol was the starter weapon. And that would have no affinity to begin with.

[flat rose]

I think so. But maybe not.

[worn quest]

hey mate, hows it goin?

[flat rose]

Getting to try to put my kid to sleep. He loves to be wild at night.

[worn quest]

ah fuck dude, i know the feels

[flat rose]

So council job sounds easier than the community manager job?

[worn quest]

haha, CM woulda been 10hr per day and giving up my YT stuff

[flat rose]

Well certainly less time consuming.

Yeah it makes sense. We could have had some fun though.

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-dare-i-do-i-dare-should-i-michael-the-office-gif-21612500

[worn quest]

100% man, but i just cant bring myself to walk away from my content. i love it too much

[flat rose]

Yeah that full time job is a big commit though.

When you already love your job why walk away for another one that may not compare.

[flat rose]

Yeah hunter was the original placeholder name.

We all used to even have hunter role on the discord. Before it got updated to ranger.

[torpid goblet]

Awesome thanks. Just got a little confused with that last leak!

[feral wren]

according to the last leak, the more of a certain type/affinity you have the largest bonus you get according to element/class

kinda like on TFT so now we know that we'll have to find a balance on board between : activating those bonuses, and don't get crushed if your opponend plays a strong affinity against the bonuses you chosed.

[feral wren]

so therefore, this is the kind of boards we wanna build

This way even just by changing the hunter's class/type we can activate different bonuses

yeah but we don't know yet what that cost is or what the PvP max cost on field would be so yeah just theorycrafting

the way i see it, this might not work for Survival mode as we know yet the max cost there goes higher as you complete stages, but probably for PvP

yep less than 10 units, and on my screenshot there are 8 + hunter ^^'

and that's probably the case... actually in pokémon almost all "Not Fully Evolved" Pokémon aren't used competitively and that's fine

hmmm from what i heard in Rankeds even if you bring a stage 1 to rankeds it becomes it's fully evolved (Stage3) version...

okok then with all the deployment costs etc it starts to make sense, thank you for these clarifications 🙂

[spring quest]

Yup. Just means you won't have to actually go out and evolve your own stage 3 Illuvials as long as you have a stage 1 you've essentially unlocked all 3 stages of that Illuvials for your selection/deck in ranked arenas to our best knowledge thus far.

[worn sparrow]

Kieran Twitted They said build the HYPE! We are on it. 11 Millions + unique combinations in set 1.

[worn sparrow]

@worn quest Hunter is now Ranger.
#💥〕leaks-discussion message

[drowsy hamlet]

acid

[hollow bobcat]

True! Survival and Ranked arenas. But not for the Leviathan Arena.

[old sierra]

These are 9 month old cards. We will update the work and names

[granite musk]

Accent doesn't matter. We all have one.

[granite musk]

See you in Leviathan.

[elder vigil]

Snailee is my favourite, rocking the glasses on his forehead behind is eyes. I need this one

[bright pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/troy-drag-achilles-brad-pitt-horse-gif-16349287

https://tenor.com/view/troy-bolton-gif-9340201

[dense solar]

he's also super sexy

i remember @vague frigate wanted to kill it with fire when i posted this..

[final holly]

What did he smoke

[elder vigil]

Booo @Dan | Illuvium! That drawing is epic Rogier

[dense solar]

its the lips right

its the juiciest lips i ever painted

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-ryan-reynolds-grin-gif-4553503

[final holly]

Is somebody holding you hostage? Send another lip pic if you need help 👀

[elder vigil]

Its the way hes looking at me too... mesmerizing haha

[dense solar]

mmmmhhmmm

[old sierra]

Snaily lol

[torpid goblet]

Perfect thank you. Last leak showed the name as hunter. I was a little confused 🤣

[old sierra]

You need to update your youtube intro's before that interview 😛

[torpid goblet]

I updated it to Ranger right after you told me. I was a afraid I’d have to dig up the old one 😂

[violet heath]

I would like to report bullying

[violet heath]

Dude, I don't know why, but something about this reminds me of Petr's orange

[dense solar]

https://tenor.com/view/barackobama-talks-press-con-maybe-classified-gif-11864017

[violet heath]

CLO

[orchid plaza]

Atlas with the shades smoking a cigar

[next harbor]

"Titanor OP" according to January dev article

[vague frigate]

You're a monster, and you must be stopped

[dense solar]

https://tenor.com/view/strange-never-never-mind-hoh-gif-14516660

[vague frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-it-torch-it-burn-it-down-ablaze-light-it-up-gif-15195566

[flat rose]

Bad experience with a snail as a child?

[old sierra]

Crazy how the Illuvitars have grown on me

[bright pawn]

NGL, need one. But cant put them as a PFP before owning them.... @muted blaze 🤔 😳

[minor matrix]

God they look so good - congrats team 🤝

Make for awesome pfp in discord rn too

[muted blaze]

I just chose 10 randomly. 😄

[urban aspen]

I haven't seen this out there but is there a Joint accesory by any chance? 😛

[final holly]

Before mint is acceptable to use them to show support

[bright pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-gif-23861497

[minor matrix]

#🚰〕leaks Let me return the favor

[urban aspen]

is there a joint / blunt? Or am I just blind?

[minor matrix]

Cigar / Cigarette that can be packed with as much thc in your mind that you want 😌🤝

[urban aspen]

ah yea I seen that, was hella hoping for a clear and obvious blunt hahaha 😉

[minor matrix]

Achievement: Collect and Name every plant asset in the game

Reward: Illuvitar glowing Blunt

Lmao

[elder vigil]

Those pipes made of obelisk material look like they got something magical in them

[urban aspen]

hahahah I could get behind this haha

[urban aspen]

call me old fashioned but you there's something special about a blunt! Either way, worst case, I'll have to rock that magic pipe they got!

[minor matrix]

File name "Illuvitar-Holy shit" 😂

[flat rose]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-rawr-baby-dragon-gif-8180489

[jovial sun]

you have just done injustice to the picture

[flat rose]

https://tenor.com/view/cymru-wales-gif-24638896

[vague frigate]

I take issue with any creature that looks at me like that

[sly snow]

Dayummm... Grant introducing us all to Jet "Terror Bird" Li over here!
Definitely wasn't expecting that attack sequence haha

[worn quest]

[dense solar]

https://tenor.com/view/lips-glitter-glossy-lipstick-lipgloss-gif-14684186

[bright pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-lips-tongue-gif-9678232

[feral wren]

sure ! will be glad if we actually get to fight each other 😉

[old sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/spartans-the300-spear-javelin-throw-near-miss-gif-16466597

[hollow cove]

Can't tell if this is a passive way of saying the deck is bad or just ready to see it in action.

[next harbor]

I believe it's a way to encourage more theorycrafters like @feral wren to strive for the top ladder

[bright pawn]

Bad deck i guess 😁

[rare pebble]

I'm shy it matters ahahah

[uncut hazel]

which illuvial is this one?

[vague frigate]

Squizz! He's Stage 1, with warpaint applied

[muted blaze]

Terror Bird Attack looks like a Dinonicus fighting its prey. Nice.

[next harbor]

I'm French and I make my videos in English and I can understand you. My accent was HORRIBLE at first but with time I improved it and became more confident. The hardest part is to start but after that you don't really care about it

[rare pebble]

Yeah after I watched my video a couple time, I got used to hearing me. It is fine now.

[next harbor]

I can advise you to write a script beforehand and just upload the script with the video to have subtitles. I do that for my videos and people who can't understand me clearly appreciate it

[rare pebble]

Have you had troubles understanding my video? Just searching for feedback. Not saying you point my bad voice

[ember steeple]

I think the background of some illuvatars are too busy, making it hard to see a clear character silhouette

[rare pebble]

Yeah I thought that with the guy on third line, third column

[rare pebble]

But I think they will be randomized so it is kinda unavoidable

[minor matrix]

That’s the image within the frames or the collage of them all?

[rare pebble]

#🚰〕leaks message

On this one sorry

[minor matrix]

Yeah fair on that example - I think the frames really bring out the character within the photo though. The edges of that background will be cropped some to centralize the illuvial

[frosty imp]

https://tenor.com/view/babies-stuffing-ninja-mixed-martial-arts-athletic-babies-gif-19859101

That Terror Bird

[worn quest]

dude i love this gif 🤣

[granite musk]

It’s a super expensive deck. As in, impossibly so.

[worn quest]

https://tenor.com/view/money-make-it-rain-rain-guap-dollar-gif-7391084

nooooo the devastation when ur gif doesnt show. ima go hide in the corner now

https://tenor.com/view/back-up-gif-8713338

[stuck radish]

[dense solar]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-no-money-al-bundy-married-with-children-i-have-no-cash-i-dont-have-money-on-me-gif-23009005

[nocturne widget]

karate birb looks so good

[feral wren]

i saw it like that too, even tho ngl i'm pretty sure that exact deck won't be good by the simple fact we still missing a lot of information about the game/illuvials to know what could be strong or not and impossible to say how the meta would look like when you realise we just know something like 30-40% of the Illuvials. but it's still a fun exercice to see how we can manage to get the most affinity/bonuses while trying to minimize our weaknesses

[loud hare]

Illuvitars combined with the ranked borders are looking perfect

[next harbor]

Definitely! I should try to tinker some interesting comps just with the synergies. This would help me to learn more about synergies and powerful 2 or 3 illuvial combos

[feral wren]

make sure you share with the bros then 😉

[hollow cove]

Ohhhhh does that mean there is a max for building decks other than the 30card limit? Like you can only have so many stage 3s or maybe a point system.

The total points shown in that deck are 18. I'm guessing you would also need the stage 1 and 2s. So that deck would 23 cards but would be 72 "points". Maybe a limit around 60"points". Am I close?

[worn sparrow]

I'm not sure about this one unless you wanted to paint an malaysian moment 🥴

[rare pebble]

the money in your wallet

[rare pebble]

And you will need energy to place illuvials on the board, so you cant place only T3

Each round you get a little bit more energy to place more illuvials

[worn sparrow]

Just saying it's make no sense of trying to deeply understand affinity and class for the Contest The Last Illuvial since we don't have all information (affinity and class) it's like summoning something as a blind villager.

What is bloom (Earth + Nature) ?

[rare pebble]

Nobody knows yet

We miss a lot of info on a lot of affinities and classes

[worn sparrow]

yeah, I know this is why i'm asking for Bloom leaks.
I have been doing Database for infoluvial website I collect all all Affinity, Class, Synergy, Illuvials.

[rare pebble]

I doubt they will leak. Ben asked if he could leak a synergy a few weeks ago and Aaron said no in this channel iirc. And some community member asked for a synergy leak to aaron like today or yesterday and he said no

I used Bloom in my Contest entry without knowing the full effect

[solemn knoll]

Yes. Bloom is Earth + Nature.

[rare pebble]

That was not the question. He asked the effect of bloom, and precised that bloom = Nature+earth

[worn sparrow]

no big deal community 😄

[solemn knoll]

Oh ok… 😅 my bad.

It is not yet leaked.

[rare pebble]

sorry i think i looked aggressive, not my intention

[solemn knoll]

Nah, we’re good 😎

[hollow bobcat]

Loving the discussion here!

[urban aspen]

my Last Illuvial is a Bloom Panda! 😄

[worn sparrow]

What do you think bloom composite is doing ?

[urban aspen]

no clue, but the assumption I made was :
Earth = grit and resolve
Nature = Max health recovery
So Bloom will probably be a mixture of those two things or something very similar? Meaning it'd be an insane affinity to have on a tank unit.
Grit and Health recovery? Mental!

[worn sparrow]

What is Invoker Ability ?

[urban aspen]

correct

[hollow cove]

Not leaked yet but pretty sure it will be a Omega boster. Maybe Energy Pen, or a %hp burn based on omega stats.

[next harbor]

I have no leak about the design but I suppose a "logic" design would be max 2 or 3 Stage 3 illuvial per board and then only stage 1 and stage 2 for support, side DPS, synergy bots and meat shield

Oh and also maybe some Stage 1 / Stage 2 illuvials with counter affinities to slow down the hyper of the opponent's Stage 3 illuvials

I can also see the design being only 1 Stage 3 illuvial per board and we have to carefully choose it

[hollow cove]

ya, I could see this being the case also. However, I don't see how that would be a limitation to the deck building. I'm sure we can have a few stage 3's in our deck(I certainly want to have at least two with different affinities. to cover a wider range of hyper control )

[next harbor]

Yeah maybe just a few to allow some interesting cross synergies, but at the end of the day it's just a design choice and we will need to learn the strategies around the design

[feral wren]

so in your opinion it would be like 3 "carries" and 5-6 synergy and/or CC bots ?

interesting as i really wasn't expecting it to be that restrictive, also we can probably assume that a T5 stage 3 like Ramphyre will probably cost more than a T1 Stage 3 so that's also something to keep in mind... i'd more say we'd have more stage 3s but probably only room for a few T5s

and when about deckbuilding, it would probably come with the : ok you can play more larger units but at the cost of either summoning more Stage 1-2s or even summon less units, because as far as we know, nothing prevents you from playing only 6 illuvials even tho the max allowed would be 8

[rare pebble]

The thing is we gotta spend Energy to place illuvials on the board. Placing Too many T3 will cost a lot.

In addition to this we gotta use what we know about synergy. Composed synergies contribute to simple synergies. If you use 2 T3 "poison synergy", and 1 T2 "poison synergy" you get 3 Water and 3 nature. It would be dumb not to place T1s Water and T1s Nature to exploit those high synergy

T3 are strong, but what makes 'em even stronger is they contribute to the strenght of a lot more Units

They are leaders of a team's synergy

You pick T2s and T1s according to what your T3 will contribute

[feral wren]

not dumb, that's just up to you to decide if THAT specific turn these stage ones are that useful or if the other large unityou wanna play is actually worth the loss of those synergies. because trust me, synergies is a thing. What the Illuvial on itself actually brings to the field is another. that's the reason in TFT we sometimes throw a random unit without synergies on our board, because it's simply a good unit on itself and worth not getting the extra synergy bonus

[rare pebble]

oops I confused Stage and Tier

[feral wren]

keep in mind that you're gonna play multiple times the same opponent and that you can change your comps / items each round which means that decision making will be way less straightforward than it seems.

let's pretend i lost last fight because my opponent hard cornered his damage dealer and therefore i wasn't able to damage it during the whole fight... would i be ok to lose 1 or 2 team bonuses for the ability of grabbing his cornered carry ? (if you plaied TFT or LoL im talking kinda Blitzcrank style) i would actually

[rare pebble]

I'm not a LoL player, but blitz is one of the rare characters I actually know. He definitely is a joker card in team composition!

We will definitely see characters like this one

And I mean, If you have a team of invokers, you will certainly not Take out every tank out of your build. Not what I'm saying.

[next harbor]

I assume tier 1 is like 1 cost unit in TFT and tier 5 is like 5 cost in TFT. Maybe a board in Illuvium is similar to a lvl 8 board in TFT. One or two 5 cost unit, three to five 3 cost/4cost units and the rest are synergy bots/supports

I could be wrong though

[rare pebble]

costs are a bit more complex then in LoL. We've seen differents costs inside the Same Stage and tier

I think they will use their AI to find adequate costs for each unit

[feral wren]

here again i don't think you actually wanna play a "team of invokers" or "more Water oriented"... as that's a high-risk/reward balance and you'll probably turn to more versatile comps, unless on a hard read.

[rare pebble]

It was said that You cannot switch /all/ units at a time between rounds. you gonna be limited. So you kinda have to have a form of stability in your team. Some pillar idea

[feral wren]

not all but what if i start with a versatile comp to actually take a lower risk, and see what does my opponent do... and then add whatever i feel like i need to add ?

[rare pebble]

Yes i'd build around two main comps and switch it up according to the opponent

[feral wren]

do i need more CC ? do i need to trigger my Fire 6 bonus ? i can do so by changing 3 waters weak to his carry for 3 fire...

is my comp fine but i lost due to my positionning ? that's also an option

[rare pebble]

This game definitely as a big opponent reading component. We gotta understand the dynamic between the two teams, find weakness, and exploit them

More than in TFT, since it is harder in TFT to counter 7 opponents

[feral wren]

yeah but also keeping in mind also is thinking as well and if you add those 3 extra fires to beat his 3 natures, but he swaps his natures for waters by anticipating your call, you're screwed

that's where in my opinion Pokémon skills are REALLY more valuable in this game than TFT's

[rare pebble]

You kinda play alone in TFT. Kinda. You cannot try to counter one opponent or you'll get f'ed by the rest of the opponents

Well, until end game

[feral wren]

ooffff nah you definitely play AGAINST the 8 other players... that's a misperception actually

i know a lot of Diamond and lower players tend to play it almost like a pve, economic game, but not at all. Sometimes you gotta go for something you don't really need at carousel just for your opponent not having it and put him either in a bad spot or basically just to deny him a spike. Other times you gonna deny units, sacrifice your own economics to lower his chances to hit what he needs. you gotta position correctly as well and try to snipe your opponents on positionning every single turn...

[next harbor]

You still have the positioning agency in TFT to counter the potential next opponents, but it's true you can't really adapt your team too much unless there is something obvious like "everyone is dealing physical damage, I'm gonna go full armor and counter all of them"

[next harbor]

Yeah a lot of small optimisations like this make the difference between top players and Master player for instance

It's not countering a comp but rather it's countering the "game plan" of your opponents

It doesn't have immediate effect but it has impact throughout the game

(And it makes me scream behind my computer when someone picks THE item I needed to accomplish my plan 😂 )

[rare pebble]

In Illuvium, i'm certainly gonna lose every legendary enhancement bet I make

That's the equivalent ahah

[next harbor]

Ahah yeah, but I think here it's different because you have agency since you can bet or at least do something. In TFT you have to sit and wait to see all your items getting picked before you

Which is very frustrating imo. I'd prefer to lose a bet because of a bluff/miscalculation rather than lose the game because of RNG

[rare pebble]

at least that's a comeback mecanic tho. Worst player gets first pick if i remember correctly? There is no comeback mecanic in Illuvium ranked that Ive seen

[next harbor]

There is also no snowbal mechanic

If you win the first fights you don't get an advantage over your opponent

[feral wren]

comeback mechanic is you outplaying your opponent

[rare pebble]

yeah there's hyper

[feral wren]

that's not what i mean

[rare pebble]

I have a meeting in a few minutes, Imma leave you guys! I'll read you after if you continued the discussion

[feral wren]

your opponent will (just like you) probably be following a gameplan or some kind of a general flowchart. if you know his intent, you can adapt your board to counter that and therefore start wining your fights until he adapts to you and so on

[next harbor]

Desperate situations bring desperate moves. I think this will happen a lot in ranked/tournaments so it'd be a mistake to think the game is won after winning the first fights, the opponent might do unpredictable move and flip the game

[hollow cove]

Not to mention shutting down a win streak. ;)

I love the discussion and hype in this game. I can't to take y'alls ETH (and lose a lot also lol)

[feral wren]

is that a challenge ? do you wanna bet with me ? 😂 😜
See ya in the Arena ❤️

https://tenor.com/view/who-do-you-think-i-am-tracy-jordan-30rock-do-you-know-who-i-am-do-you-know-of-me-gif-21886402

[hollow cove]

Grandmaster show down lets go! I'll take you on.

[feral wren]

😂 Let's go !

[next harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/therock-dwaynejohnston-wrestler-wwe-bringit-gif-4557822

(why is it not showing as a gif? It's completely anti-climatic 😂)

[bright pawn]

I cant wait for the ; ‘cya in the arena, noob’ posts all over these forums

[rare pebble]

Why do some people design a separate ability for "hyper"? Isnt hyper just the name of the mecanic where one illuvial deals extra damage due to to advantage of one affinity over one other? Does it really proc a different ability?

[upper light]

The last refuge of a salty nerd: "1v1 me!"

I've never been there... 😉

[bright pawn]

God i cant wait. Will we able to chat to opponents?!??! @violet heath i need to use GOML

[bright pawn]

Yes, each illuvial has 4 attacks. Thats what i concluded from what aaron was saying in the vid. Normal attack. Hyper attack. Omega. Hyper omega.

[rare pebble]

Can you point me to that video?

[bright pawn]

Its in the last illuvial video

Just listen when he gives recap of what you need to enter with

[rare pebble]

the big 1.5 hour vid?

[bright pawn]

Yh

[rare pebble]

I think I just found the timestamp

about 22:30

[flat rose]

I’m with @rare pebble on this one. Hyper just seems to be a mechanic to increase the effectiveness of the normal abilities and the omega abilities.

[rare pebble]

Well hot damn, I missed that

[flat rose]

Welp we could be wrong though.

[bright pawn]

Just listen to me boys, we’ll be ok

[rare pebble]

we are

Watch at 22:30 in the big TheLastIlluvial video

[flat rose]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[bright pawn]

I thank you both for your council votes!

[rare pebble]

I thank you for your follow and like on my Twitter account and TheLastIlluvial entry

[flat rose]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-confused-blinking-okay-white-guy-blinking-gif-7513882

[bright pawn]

Why this amazed face bigbird

[sturdy ridge]

I hope you are cos mines a bit different

[bright pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-it-all-wrong-chef-south-park-you-got-fd-in-the-a-s8e5-gif-22282891

Going to win just becuz every1 cant listen 😳😳😳😳😳

[sturdy ridge]

I heard it too lol. And I decided my hyper brought out his dark side

[rigid cypress]

Damn, you folks typing!

[flat rose]

Well I still actually think I’m right and that Aaron misspoke a little. Seems more likely that you upgrade both your abilities. Both the attack and the omega are upgraded. Attack is still just the one attack. And omega is still just one omega. When hyper they get upgraded (add effect, range, power, could be anything that makes it stronger). So it still seems like it’s just the hyper version of the same attack and omega. But I honestly don’t think having more or less named abilities will impact the competition here.

[rigid cypress]

You're actually both right. In the code effectively a Hyper Omega is an entirely different ability. From a player perspective though it's the same ability with extra effects

[flat rose]

Tell us straight Ben. Do illuvials have more than one omega ability?

Now that I’ve seen what he posted. Ok thanks.

[rigid cypress]

So it won't be Rhamphyre ult is the firefall AOE. And his hyper is a backflip tailslap.

[flat rose]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-to-be-right-loki-tom-hiddleston-marvel-gif-22024066

[rigid cypress]

It'll be the same ult, but different in some ways. More, damage, maybe larger AOE, maybe it leaves burning ground

[rare pebble]

Excellent, thank you for the precisions

[flat rose]

But I love that we can all be right on this one.

[rare pebble]

@sturdy ridge Some of your ability doesnt seem to fit what ben says

[bright pawn]

😳🥶

[flat rose]

While that may be true it just means there’s more ideas that can be used to create the final form of the illuvial idea. No worries I’d say.

[sturdy ridge]

Alright alright. They can always take them out it’s still good enough without 😦 gives them more options tho. A lot of fights good chance you arnt actually going to reach hyper on certain characters anyway

Ps your moth still isn’t endangered 😂 il drag you all down with me!

[sturdy ridge]

Should I rework my submission in community content? Or you think they could just take out the things they don’t like?

@rigid cypress #🎨〕community-content message

[rare pebble]

It isnt! But it offers a great insight on how vulnerable some species are to the extinction of others. If one of the two species I based my entry on goes extinct, so does the other. This idea can show something quite strong even in the OverWorld. The OverWorld design team could plaace the same cactus in the World, and reduce its population over time with the decreasing population of the moth available to capture. Isnt it a cool message? We got Extinct animal that we lost. And if we dont do something, we can lose plants that require certain animals

[rigid cypress]

I'm not involved I'm afraid, so can't speak to design tips. Though we already have a lot of birds in set 1!

[rare pebble]

Aaron mentioned the OverWorld would evolve over time

[sturdy ridge]

It’s a great idea I’m just trolling a little 🙂

[rare pebble]

Thanks!

[sturdy ridge]

Oh balls…

I have no time to redo now anyway. Porcuspine will have to wait til set 2 lol

[rare pebble]

same for my design. I fully know it is not extinct. But I decided to go big or go home with my idea that I thought was original. It was that or nothing cuz no other original idea. And It still kinda is linked to extinct animal

[rigid cypress]

For me, when I design. The visuals are less important than the purpose.

What do I want an Illuvial to do, what role do I see it fulfilling. And then work backwards from there.

[rare pebble]

idk if you watched my video, but my presentation really isnt the best ahahah! I followed exactly this. I like the purpose of my design. How it creates a cool new strategy of tank line breaker.

[rigid cypress]

Oh I want something that can buff nearby allies. Hmm, OK what animal can I think of that provides an aura like effect? Oh.. Firefly.

[sturdy ridge]

I feel like my character has loads of utility and the tornado changing the positioning of enemies could be an amazing last pick.

[upper light]

Skunks ala negative aura 😛

[final holly]

You should enter this idea 😛

[rare pebble]

I see a lot of design that try to be flashy, explosive, with big bangs! I aimed for something more subtle. I dont have some big explosions and stuff. It is focused on the idea of adding a shrine on a fixed position on map, which you want to stay close
edit: it is quite strong when you successfully stay close, but your opponent has options to move the combat away in next rounds

[rigid cypress]

Haven't looked at any! But don't forget that you design for both the player and the opponent. Something being amazingly strong if X, what does the other play do to outplay? If that X is something that the opponent has no control over. It'll just be unbalanceable.

[sturdy ridge]

Did that too. Abilities can lose you the fight in the wrong scenario knocking enemies back to safety.

[rigid cypress]

I have probably designed the most Illuvials so far. Wouldn't want to be greedy 😄

[sturdy ridge]

Oh go on have a peak at mine lol. Then if you want to steal it you can 🙂

[rigid cypress]

(it's a team effort, but I've done probably 80% in some form)

[sturdy ridge]

There’s no Ben in team!

[rare pebble]

Isn't the aura thing just to detect proximity and load the hyper bar?

Basically if you are fire and enter the aura of a nature illuvial, you charge your hyper bar faster

And, by the same reasoning, the nature enters fire dude's aura and it slows its hyper bar

When hyper is full, everything gets boosted

So you get stronger or whatever bonus the hyper applies for this particular illuvial

As I understand it, fire doesn't have an advantage over nature other than that hyper bar. It is not hyperBar+affinity advantage

The advantage is the bar loading faster

[worn quest]

would love a colored concept leak of this beast

[granite knot]

That thing looks awesome did I miss a leak?

[worn quest]

it was months ago in Zyoniks interview with grant, but they never posted it in the leaks on discord

previous pic is stage 3. this is stage 1

and stage 2

[granite knot]

Dang those look cool

[sly snow]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-of-madagascar-gif-21075436

[worn quest]

if i had to choose a favorite line right now it is these guys, closely followed by the scorpie line

[granite knot]

Less with you on the scorpie line but these are a must have lol.

[rigid cypress]

Penguins have some of the best names out there

[sly snow]

Is the Scorpie line a recent addition to your faves.... because of the Illuvitars, perhaps?

Or was this always a fave?

[rigid cypress]

I didn't know it for leaked though! Is nothing sacred!

[sly snow]

Not with Grant around, I feel! (Although I don't know if it was he who leaked this one...)

[worn quest]

slappin and stabbin isnt it but what is stage 2? slashin?

[rigid cypress]

He even leaked names!?

[worn quest]

ive always had a wierd thing for scorpions. but that illuvitar is top notch

[worn quest]

said it in the interview

[rigid cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/broken-faucet-faucet-splash-water-sprinkle-gif-14871555

[worn quest]

but seriously, can u share the stage 2 name?

https://tenor.com/view/please-sad-spongebob-puppy-face-begging-gif-15691199

[rigid cypress]

https://c.tenor.com/Vzv8xhXN-K8AAAAM/dinosaurs-earl-sinclair.gif

[worn quest]

oh shit i remember the movie that was from. thats old AF

[rigid cypress]

Ikr!

Getting old

[worn quest]

how old u?

[rigid cypress]

Same age as Kieran I think!

[worn quest]

how old is Kieran?

lol

[upper light]

32.4?

[rigid cypress]

Ok. I'm not quite as old as that decrepit dinosaur

[worn quest]

i was born in 89, actually having a brain fart i think im 32 lol

[sly snow]

Can confirm. Either am or know someone who was born 89

https://tenor.com/view/steve-urkel-detective-hhmmmm-i-got-my-eye-on-you-eyeglasses-gif-16755653

[supple crescent]

y'all makin' me feel old

[feral phoenix]

I’m 89’ too mate! 33 in October, 30s rock

[sly snow]

Completely agree

[granite knot]

92, be there in 3 months

[worn quest]

👍 im november. ur old AF compared to me

[feral phoenix]

Yee not sure I’ll make it until game launch to be honest 💀

[sly snow]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-on-the-back-there-gif-9803275

[supple crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/x-men-wolverine-xmen-wolverine-you-mean-im-too-old-wolverine-you-mean-im-too-old-gif-22067745

[worn quest]

🤣

[steady crag]

Are all illuvials already leaked? Aside from shia?

[granite knot]

I would say probably only a little over half. You can check out illuvialmaster.com for a bunch of the leaked ones so far.

[stuck radish]

Or just scroll back through #🚰〕leaks

[sly snow]

https://tenor.com/view/never-harrypotter-angry-fire-no-gif-4751988

[feral wren]

i hope not. mind games are like poker, the less you're able to communicate with your opponent, the better. otherwise there are way too many ways to troll.

[spring quest]

https://c.tenor.com/ALbN3CspvGgAAAAM/jackass-happy-gilmore.gif

[next harbor]

I'd instantly mute at the beginning of every game honestly

[feral wren]

Agree

[worn sparrow]

I wonder what's the name of this Illuvial Stage 2 MMmmmm ?
Slappin Stage 1 look to have a Water Affinity + Rogue has Class ?
+
Stabbin Stage 3 seam to be Frost. Stabbin is pretty similar to stabbing Maybe one of his Class is Rogue.

[next harbor]

Do you know if we have a similar T pose (with colors) of Atlas available somewhere?

[hollow bobcat]

I don’t think they do T pose for quadrupeds...

[next harbor]

Ah yeah, that's fair 😂

But even for the Stage 3 Atlas?

[worn sparrow]

never saw a T pose for Atlas.

[next harbor]

Yeah me neither but I asked just in case, thanks! 🙂

[worn sparrow]

For Axodon, I can't tell you, you will have to look in #🚰〕leaks

[next harbor]

I'll give a try with Axodon key word on research this time

[granite musk]

Atlas is a quadruped.

[next harbor]

Yeah I figured out after. I wanted to make a thumbnail with half of the Pengu from TFT on one side and half of Atlas on the other side but I realised they don't have the same body at all ahah. I might do it with just the face but I might just take another approach for the thumbnail

[hollow cove]

Has it been confirmed anywhere that stage 2 classes and affinities will count as 2 for the stage 1's built-in? EX: Granite will count as 1X granite and 2X Earth for synergies?

[hollow cove]

Naaa got to BM the enemy. Mind games for the win.

[feral wren]

why would it be otherwise ?

[hollow cove]

Agreed, just haven't seen 100% confirmed.

[feral wren]

also, that's pure speculation from mine but i don't think the multipliers will be by 10-20%... at least not if that's like affinities in Pokémon or other RPGs

[hollow cove]

What do you think the range of multipliers will be?

I'm thinking 25% to 200%

[feral wren]

more like x1.5 for a "small Weakness" and x2 for a big one.
let's say i attack with a Fire one, it would deal x2 to nature and x1.5 to air

then the multipliers multiply too let's say volcano then does x4 to nature and (1,5 x 1,5 = 2.25) to air

then Volcano to Verdant x8 and Volcano to tempest 5x

that's the kind of multipliers we see in other RPGs involving affinities at least

[urban aspen]

I’m sure @torpid goblet has a video regarding this confirmed by Aaron. I might be wrong but I’m sure he can clarify

If it’s not Nijafe, I’m sorry for pinging you hahah

[hollow cove]

so you think it will be %800 at peak advantage?

[feral wren]

@torpid goblet video counts it in : +1 +2 etc

[hollow cove]

Ya he has the multipliers confirmed but not the %bonus advantage

[feral wren]

but we don't know what the bonus for +1 is

[urban aspen]

Ah ok! Sorry bout that haha

[feral wren]

could be actually yeah. this way we could see Verdant/Maelstorm etc as high risk high reward illuvials and i think that's what they're supposed to be

if i once again take example on Pokémon, most REALLY strong pokémon tend to have an x4 multiplier weakness to counterbalance that (landorus, Garchomp, Gyarados to only say a few)

meaning they are VERY strong against a TON of things but against 1 or 2 specific ones, they become super frail meaning most of the time a One hit KO

[torpid goblet]

Yes

[torpid goblet]

From my understanding the advantages don't actually make you hit harder. They will increase the speed of the hyper meeter charge and a bigger advantage means you'll reach hyper quicker

[torpid goblet]

No problem. I enjoy talking about game mechanics

[urban aspen]

yea that's right! I forgot exactly what you said, but I knew you did talk about it!

[hollow cove]

I'm just wondering how much faster it will build. If it is 800% or really high in general, this may weigh the hyper system being the most important for the overall strategy. (considering other aspects like positioning, individual illuvial omega's, and more). comparing it to TFT, I would say the most important aspects are items and positioning at the highest levels. I'm assuming Hyper will be the most important aspect due to how it will be tied in with almost everything. I guess we will see when it comes out in June-Q3.

[torpid goblet]

We don't know the % increase in the meter, but take a look at the affinity chart I made. There are certain types of Illuvials that will be great as tanks because they have a low possible advantage and disadvantage. So while some match ups could give a +16 advantage it'll be very rare. If you use a dust illuvial as a tank for example even in the perfect match up your opponent is only going to get a +2 advantage from affinties plus the class advantage that might also only give a +2 advantage.

I do think hyper will be very important, but I think like most games at a competitive level they will be more easily countered making hyper harder to achieve

[sturdy ridge]

Hyper will be strongly based on positioning anyway. Cos I think there is a range to the hyper mechanic? So I think it will all tie in quite nicely together.

[next harbor]

For your example I feel like the dust illuvials could be a good opener for a match if we don't know exactly what affinities our opponent is going to play. For instance, he has complete different affinities within his deck and we don't know what he will choose for the first fight. On the contrary, if the deck is pretty obvious it'll be better to take a tank with an affinity that heavily counters the opponent

But again, I don't know how many illuvials we can put in a deck. I know we can field 8 to 9 maximum but idk how much of agency we have with our decks

[torpid goblet]

Exactly. Thats why if you've seen my chart I list certain illuvial affinities as tanks. And thats not to say they will always be tanky illuvials its more that tanky illuvials with those affinities will perform better.

@next harbor

A tanky Illuvial that is poison, steam, bloom, shock, or dust will perform better with the unknown of what your opponent might throw down

[next harbor]

Yeah I saw your great video about that. I haven't crossed this information with the illuvials having these affinities and checked their class, but we don't have all the illuvials out yet. But let's say there's a poison/bulwark then it would be a good fit for what you just described

[torpid goblet]

Yes and you can look at the synergies that we know so far. Another example would be earth seems tanky, air creates opponents to miss. So Dust seems like it'll be a good fit for a tank in that sense as well

[next harbor]

Indeed, it makes even more sense for dust to be a great versatile tank

[feral wren]

Oh ok, my understanding was you had both bonuses dmg and metter but maybe I'm wrong

[torpid goblet]

i'm not 100% sure, but i think its just the meter charge

[feral wren]

Ok, well good enough tho actually. The more you cast the higher chances to win. Maybe that will turn the game also more complex to understand if your board actually can beat the opposing one or not

[deep whale]

so verdant is officialy the name for overgrowth?

[feral wren]

yeah

[torpid goblet]

Yeah, seems to me a much weaker team could win if they have a significant hyper advantage

[spring quest]

I think what everyone is most interested in knowing here is if the type advantage with the affinities will actually give a damage multiplier in battle versus the other affinities or like you've mentioned is it just based on how much the hyper meter builds with each Illuvial within the battle depending on the affinity advantages and disadvantages? Big question for @bleak holly

[hazy sigil]

Aaron has addressed this on a couple recent interviews. Nijafe is giving the feedback that he’s shared. It charges the hyper meter faster (or slower) depending on the affinity match up. It does not change base damage.

I think it may have been with Vetemor but not positive as there were a lot of interviews with Aaron and Kieran in a short time period for a while there

[worn sparrow]

Sick plants RootSquid

[hollow cove]

Ya it looks really cool, The way the bubble just floats away and cool sound effects. I just wanna play 😭

also should the #🚰〕leaks just be leaks at this point? and #💥〕leaks-discussion to Leak discussion. then it would fit better on the side bar, Thoughts?

[worn sparrow]

Plus the sound, just imagine moving in Illuvium visual + ambience will be an experience on it's own.

[sturdy ridge]

Eurgh it looks so good. I need to play now 😦

[deep whale]

all along i was just waiting and hoping for that "pop" sound when the bubble explodes

never came

[dusk flare]

@old sierra What is this? Still WIP? Lol, just kidding, funny little easter egg in photoshop 😂

It's on the same place on most frames hehe

[sturdy ridge]

Great you’ve just pushed the game back another month…

[dusk flare]

oh lord 👀

[sturdy ridge]

Going to put this here in anticipation of my victory. 🤞#🎨〕community-content message my last illuvial

[deep whale]

#🎨〕community-content message

[worn sparrow]

1- Are we allow to post entry in this channel ?
2- If yes, good luck. I will post mine.

[frosty imp]

Thanks. Now have a new sleep paralysis demon.

[deep whale]

maybe this little fellow can sooth your pain

[dense solar]

it was a mockup yeah

[dusk flare]

yeah, I figured. That's just a few minutes of work on those frames

[frail folio]

Hey guys I have also joined the last illuvium. Would love some thoughts. https://twitter.com/RavenArtG/status/1503079899367546882?t=5nKydHf_tFtoPNPdVjEr5g&s=19

Raven_G (@RavenArtG)

Hello Guys! Here is my Last Illuvium Entry. Hope you guys like it! 💖 @illuviumio #TheLastIlluvial #thelastilluvial https://t.co/yZCWCiaoc7

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 13, 2022, 6:45 PM

[rare pebble]

It is not "the last illuvium" but "The last Illuvial". Illuvium is the game, Illuvial is the creature.

[stuck radish]

[hazy sigil]

Technically it’s the Last Illuvial in the First Illuvium.

[thin sinew]

that looks sick, fantastic work

[junior thunder]

Feels like something huge is going to jump out of the water or swallow the whole battle board

[rare pebble]

I love those leaked plants! I see some that could look cool for my last illuvial concept!

[frosty imp]

Amount of assets in illuvium = Plants > everything else

[old sierra]

So many plants but it will all pay off

Tibo working on an old build so don't look into the graphics

[urban aspen]

The vibe of abyssal basin in that picture looks mad!!

[old sierra]

Just doing sound dev

[rare pebble]

@old sierra my design for the last illuvial has an insect and a cactus. I've been thinking how the cactus used the auto-battler could also be used in the Overworld, and reduce over time as we catch the illuvial

Yes, Animals are going extinct. And it also influences plant population

[urban aspen]

Wild! It’s gonna be so good to see all these biomes polished!

[old sierra]

It's just a blockout. When we update with our highres assets that's when it comes to life

[old sierra]

You trying to force a victory? 🧐😉

[rare pebble]

"They are allowed to campaign as much as they wish to." - medium article

I'm working hard

[worn quest]

that looks and sounds soooo clean. moz4rts sound are so detailed

[urban aspen]

Lol I didn’t see this! I didn’t campaign at all hahah!

[rare pebble]

I dont think it will change anything anyways. In the end, the team will pick whatever they think is best, whatever the likes/views are

[stuck radish]

It all looks so effing GOOD

[worn quest]

dude im goin through them all now to make a compilation.... there are so many cool out of the box ideas. Gunna be a hard choice

[robust lily]

Those animation are solid

[stuck radish]

https://tenor.com/view/jizz-in-my-pants-gif-14399246

[urban aspen]

Yea the animations of the plants being depleted are dope!

[worn sparrow]

yeah, sound will make the experience really immersive!

[worn sparrow]

I'm waiting on that video hehe

[urban aspen]

I think we all are! It’ll be cool to seen them compiled

[worn quest]

might not be til 2moro. takin me forever

[worn sparrow]

Is it normal that M0z4rd gather 4 plants and energy bar did not move ?

[urban aspen]

You for real going through them ALL? Or you sussing out what you reckon has the best chances?
And what you finna do, just add all the videos? Or screenshot them and talk about them? Cause that’d be a fucking long video ahha

[worn quest]

trying to do all

[worn sparrow]

no rush, we are all lucky that your creating it!

[worn quest]

and make a simple picture of all 3 stages for all of them

[urban aspen]

Ah sick sick! Yea nah we appreciate your effort man! That shit sounds like hard work hahah

[worn quest]

down to #🎨〕community-content for this though

[worn sparrow]

Brightland Steppes is a place I will want to visit for sure!

[bleak trout]

I consider this as a reward for me 😘

[robust lily]

https://tenor.com/view/the-one-he-is-the-one-gif-14744864

[elder vigil]

The Onyx Studio leak is just a blank video, you might have dropped the wrong one but the people still love it

[urban aspen]

No its not

[feral phoenix]

How sick are those harvesting crystals lookin 🤤

[stuck radish]

Sooooo good

[frosty imp]

Download it and you can see the blockout

[stuck radish]

I had to watch again

[elder vigil]

Fa real, this is all I see for 34 seconds

[frosty imp]

Brightland steps is definitely going to be my fav. More room to roam and jetpack round, if it looks as good the official trailer did it'll be a home run

[worn sparrow]

Download it and watch it

[stuck radish]

Try totally restarting Discord.
That's worked for me before

[rare pebble]

I downloaded the video

Works locally on my pc

[elder vigil]

Ahh yes, downloading it works! Weird how the discord video player failed

[worn sparrow]

yeah, 1st time it's happend for me.

[frail folio]

Thank you so much man! 🥺

[minor matrix]

Yeeesh all the leaks are some heat 🔥🔥

[final holly]

[junior thunder]

I’m assuming you need to press a button to perform the harvest not automatically right? Because the actions consume energy correct? @old sierra

[bright pawn]

yes should be

[junior thunder]

Hahaha! If my panda didn’t win, I’m happy if you guys can put it on the wall of the crimson waste

[bright pawn]

Ohhh good one. Put all the non winners as wall paintings !!!! @old sierra

[junior thunder]

Ikr, I’ll take a screenshot every time I visit my panda

[hollow bobcat]

At this point we don't know because it will be Moz4rt who does the mining for us. It can be automatic or perhaps we have some control over what Moz4rt does.

[worn sparrow]

Can’t do that I think painting on wall, there a reason they are there and it’s might be because of the main story.

[junior thunder]

They can be actual “Extinct illuvial” 😂

[junior thunder]

Extinct before they were born…

https://tenor.com/view/sad-unhappy-sorry-sorrowful-hopeless-gif-23864489

[bronze pilot]

Man, that beta preview, looks fucking awesome!!!!! AND you guys beat lvl 5, which apparently was impossible! lol
I can't really wait to play the private beta after seeing this!
Though... who knows right? This could be just a bunch of earlier animated videos compiled together 😉

Either way, incredible work guys! Keep this up! Or take a break... but please just release the private beta already!!

[leaden kettle]

Absolutely amazing gameplay indeed 🔥

[sage thistle]

3 Nature + 3 Empath wave looking stupidly tanky in Survival Mode - Excited to see what comps can burst through or outlast it

[round igloo]

so rogues do blink to the enemy backline

[silent jewel]

I'm happy, just seeing the gameplay. I really want to play it badly. 😦

[granite knot]

• Vermi is Air/Empath
• Vermillia Air/Revenant
• Phyri: Fire/Psion
• Flare Base is Fire now not Earth
• Composite scales now at 2/3/4 instead of 2/4/6 (at least for survival mode)

anyone notice anything else?

[worn quest]

just watching that bit of gameplay its so easy to see how you could lose a game to just that gameplay loop

[spare ingot]

I've noticed palpable gameplay which is more than enough for me to enjoy the "it's coming feeling" 😁

Don't tryhard too much at an alpha bro, most beta tryharders become then irrelevant because they get used to the beta way to much, and happen to suck at 1.0 failing to adapt to the implemented changes. I've seen it too many times in my gaming life

Come on and celebrate with us instead of burning yourself out. This will take time and it's okay ☺️

Sorry if this might sound condescending, that would be total opposite of what I'm trying to communicate here ! 👍

[granite knot]

haha its more for updating my site. So it stays up to date

[final holly]

So Grant posting they won't post links after a link was posted in #📣〕social-media 😛

[upper light]

Robots don't get paid so they refuse to play by the rules 😛

[next harbor]

I was expecting to see Titanor

[dusk rose]

Looking so good

If I’m lucky enough to get to play this, not sure the following conditions can coexist:

• I’m not top of the leaderboard
• I sleep

[next harbor]

Oh wait, there is Titanor, how did I miss that in 1st play

[tranquil narwhal]

Just Wow guys, the Survival mode looks so good

Really makes you want to play

[dusk rose]

Crazy how polished this is looking, especially considering the time the teams had to hire and work on this

Super impressive

[worn quest]

bots are immune to the silence effect

[final holly]

Grant got deleted

[frosty imp]

Seems like in the final battle lots of low cost illuvials > high cost illuvial

[dire flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-panicking-panic-screaming-ahh-gif-19031370

the demo is insane

[rain plaza]

That beta gameplay leak was hot!

https://tenor.com/view/paris-hilton-hot-thats-gif-18129736

[ember steeple]

the gameplay looks good! maybe I'm just dopamine addicted, but already got bored by the end of the video. It's probably gonna be a lot more fun to play than to watch

[frosty imp]

Wonder if there will be an option to 2x speed the battle

[dense solar]

you wont need to :}

[dense solar]

ull lose very quickly!

[gentle burrow]

congrats to all the team!!!!!!! big improvements from the last trailer and that was already 100x better than anything else in this space. Chain attacks look stunning, smooth movement wow LFG!!!

[gentle burrow]

auto battlers tend to start slow in early rounds but as they go deeper into the rounds and you can put more and more illuvials on the board at once and stronger with more team bonuses etc it becomes fast pace and exciting

[gentle burrow]

also great to see some polished illuvials tiles/cards of "air" illuvials. I hadnt noticed any until now. I'm sure I've just missed it before. Even the marketplace for illuvium is going to be clean af. Imagine scrolling for illuvials to buy and that art work is what you see

[granite musk]

Different rogues do different things. But it hasn’t been implemented yet.

[granite musk]

#📋〕comms-policy We haven’t updated the website yet. But not long now. For now you can see the only promo is the Polemos one in #🔗〕helpful-links

[granite musk]

Probably just you don’t yet understand the nuance so you don’t have a sense of “no don’t do that. Yes, great choice”.

For some though the only time it will be fun to watch others play survival mode is when they are top players and have a very high score. Which I think is normal.

[frosty imp]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-monkey-dying-gif-13123180 r.i.p me haha

[junior thunder]

It’s really rare to see someone posting in the character leaks but not Grant.

So was it Andrew playing in the video🙃 @smoky raven

[hollow bobcat]

That leak made me jump out from bed! Amazing work, can't wait to see the final version where all aspects of the auto battler is in!

[empty latch]

This is so true, once people understand the mechanics and what makes a "good" and "bad" play it will be more fun to watch others playing it. Also at least for me I love watching people theory craft and seeing meta shifts and I'm also very curious to see how high the skill ceiling will go in this game. But seriously tho it's already looking insanely clean 💯

[worn quest]

Also, i think watching a game like this is also 10x more fun when you have played it yourself and understand how it works

[elder vigil]

Will there be buttons we can press or hotkeys to quickly switch to main camera views? I feel like I'd get lost zooming into all the beautiful little battles taking place.

[lean dragon]

@granite musk does the cinematic replay have a slow mode? That would be awesome to go slow mo on the omegas then clip it for CC purposes.

[granite musk]

There are 4 camera hotkeys already.

[granite musk]

It doesn't but it wouldn't be hard.

The problem would be letting people control that so that it goes slow in some parts and not others. That's beyond the scope for now. But we can out put in slow mo so that people can edit themselves.

[lean dragon]

Thats a great feature to have when making montages. Letting people edit it in a way that you can zoom in on Rhamphyre and do a X-sec slow mo as he executes his omega and rains fire on the board etc.

[granite musk]

For now it's basic though. Don't expect that it's going to be like final cut pro or something like that.

[hollow bobcat]

Coolness! I’m excited to learn How to edit videos So I can do that 😁 #youtuberwannabe

[bronze pilot]

Have the waves been changing since the start of the closed private beta?
Or will that be introduced starting from the "open" private beta?

[next harbor]

Still, it's great to move the camera like this. I've been asking for this on TFT for a year to make more enticing videos but I guess they have a technical limitation due to the architecture of the code

@feral wren and I spent some time analysing the video yesterday. It looks like a counter affinity depletes the Hyper bar and so a if a water illuvial attacks an earth illuvial, the former will get hyper points every attack and the earth illuvial will lose hyper points when touched.
There iw a world where adding a rogue with a counter affinity to jump on a big carry to make sure it will not get hyper is worth it. However we couldn't tell how big is the hyper mode (+10% damage? +20% damage? +50% damage?). Units look expensive so there is a real assessment to make if we want to splash 1 or 2 units to counter the opponents

[granite musk]

Changes daily. And soon we will have both modes, once is a random one where every run is different.

[granite musk]

Hyper is getting a small rework. It isn't the focus of this one. At the moment the increase is about 25% max.

With the new version it will be smaller individual changes, but a bit swingier.

[sage thistle]

That's dope, is there testing going on for the Tier 0 only roster in Survival mode to emulate the F2P experience and make sure it's viable & enjoyable?

[river kestrel]

Game is looking incredible. Team keeps on kicking goals!

[feral wren]

oof we getting numberZZZZZ xD

[granite musk]

Nope.

[hollow cove]

Here is Vermis's info. I had to watch the video at .25 to see all the leaks But I posted a word doc with all of them in our guild if anyone is interested to see all of the Omegas. Positioning will be huge in this game. I Can't wait!

[next harbor]

Looking good, not too impactful to be broken but impactful enough to care about it. It will need a lot of limit testing to truly assess whether its worth sacrificing a good unit for a rogue with a counter affinity. I like it

[feral wren]

Yep and i really love the fact of being able to totally deny hyper to an illuvial based on placement and/or using a Rogue

[sage thistle]

Are there any plans to or is Survival Mode meant to be purely a Paid Illuvial Mode of gameplay?

[next harbor]

And optimize the focus fire, the order in positioning tanks/carries, and so on

[granite musk]

There are plans. Just not there yet. There's 75 tier 0s and we will probably put them all in one hit.

[granite musk]

And of course, you want to do that so that you don't go down the highway to the danger zone.

(That's a real mechanic)

[lean dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/im-ready-lets-go-lets-do-this-prepared-helmet-gif-15818260

[next harbor]

I think it's the first time I hear about this mechanic, something like a snowball effect within the fights?

[sage thistle]

Awesome, was just curious, thanks for the update!

[granite musk]

You'll have to wait and see

[next harbor]

Alright, it's better not to get too much spoiled or it'll ruined our first experience

[bright pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-of-the-titans-kraken-release-gif-12259319

[hollow cove]

Or we just completely take over the game because of these little nuances. It pays to be early

[sturdy ridge]

Also if it’s like tournament play some kind of commentary in the background talking you through and giving stats and things would be cool.

[next harbor]

Sure, though it's important to keep the pleasure of discovering the game to enjoy the process of being competitive

[vague bluff]

Yea, I think most of the interest will be generated by how well someone is able to do a running commentary of what they are doing and seeing it work out

[bronze pilot]

I was under the impression that illuvials of the same line wouldn't add up to the total affinity of the board. If you would want a water based composition, the 5 types of T0 illuvials + your hero would limit you to the first 2 stages of the affinity (6 orbs). Was that the goal as you introduce 5 T0 lines? (5 lines * 3 stages * 5 affinities -> 75)

[granite musk]

You don't get more affinity or class by playing more of the same Tier 0. You are correct.

But there are some other things in the game that can help. Such as bonding.

[sturdy ridge]

Oh no not back to bonding again

[junior thunder]

Too many mechanics… it’s gonna be hard to teach my 6 year to play

[sturdy ridge]

Your 6 yr old will probably pick it up faster than we will lol

[hollow bobcat]

Agree... even teenagers can take this up faster within just a few games. I don't see in the games they play any instructions manuals 🤔

[sturdy ridge]

I don’t use instructions for flat pack furniture I’m not going to start using it for a game!

[bright pawn]

I've seen your house, you should start using them...👀

[sturdy ridge]

Pfft that ikea furniture was meant to look like that! God I hate building things… so many near misses on the divorce front!

[bright pawn]

hahaha i feel ya

[hazy sigil]

Now that’s brave!

[sturdy ridge]

But not wise 🙂

[worn sparrow]

Are those --> Flowers Palm from Sanctum Mesa ?

[livid rapids]

sik trees

[old sierra]

They are sanctum mesa trees

We will upgrade it as much as possible for pb2

[final holly]

Hello Grant, how are you today?

[old sierra]

Nearly better from covid

[deep whale]

dude play an autobattler thats on the market right now, fall in love with it get addicted to it and then look at illuvium autobattler and tell me you dont get a hard on after like 3 seconds watching. then when you nearing the peak realise that all those things are actually gonna be owned by you and happy arriving in the new world of pleasure

[final holly]

Oh I didn't even know you had covid. Make sure you get enough rest!

[old sierra]

Yeh I've rested enough lol

[final holly]

Ok, get back to work

[deep whale]

dude it's so satisfying to see the concept that has been given to the studio and then the end product looking exactly the same #🚰〕leaks

[old sierra]

We got lucky with thundercloud

Can you imagine ubisoft bragging to their community about which outsource studios they actively use while sharing their work lol

Cucka

People forgot about IZ it seems

[final holly]

wen

[muted blaze]

I am ready. Wen indeed.

[final holly]

I am more excited for IZ than ILV, he can't say stuff like this

[old sierra]

I'm asking Aaron the same thing about pb1. If only you guys knew how much could go wrong lol

[final holly]

It's easier to not know and just ask wen

[sturdy crag]

[rare pebble]

I autorize you to share more info about that

[old sierra]

Fucking putin aye. Who saw that coming

[muted blaze]

haha yeah, we're sitting here saying "wen" while a lot of pieces need to move behind the scene for that to to be flawless

[old sierra]

Need a new meme.
List of things that could end illuvium

-WW3
-asteroid impact
-zombies

[sturdy crag]

-grant

[old sierra]

Coming very close with 2 of those

https://tenor.com/view/deep-deepimpact-gif-17975728

https://tenor.com/view/nek-minut-minnitt-minitt-gif-18259947

[final holly]

This is why we should burry people with shoe laces tied together

[deep whale]

im ready

[muted blaze]

Lemme ask S.T.A.R.Z to see how they didn't get infected 😄

[deep whale]

if zombie apocalypse breaks out, where does illuvium community meet to make their fortress and stand?

stralia? alps?

toys r us?

[bleak holly]

So the gameplay footage is AMAZING. But could we see somebody else playing? Maybe somebody who isnt allergic to synergies?

[next harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-controversial-yet-so-brave-controversial-brave-gif-12046682

[worn sparrow]

What is considered an hexradius ? If you look at the image Archie is covering -----> 37 Hexagons. 1+6+12+18 = 37
ex: The Omega of Archist Stage 1 health Allies within 25 hexradius.

How to calculate 25 hexradius ?
5x5 from the middle point (1 in white under Archies) = TEAL lines.

[next harbor]

Hexradius = distance from center of the hex to the border of that hex

For instance the image shows a 4 hexradius for the illuvial's hitbox

[worn sparrow]

Yeah

[rare pebble]

Your teal lines are 5 hexradius

Not 25

Although a distance of 25 looks big for a stage 1 Archie. there might be something factored in.

[next harbor]

The aoe healing in the last video looked super big compared to Archie who cast it

[rare pebble]

Didn't notice it!

[next harbor]

I spent a lot of time watching and rewatching it ahah

[worn sparrow]

Archies-Tier1-Stage1-Nature-Empath-Range Omega

[hollow cove]

Or positioning 😆

[hollow cove]

I was also very surprised to see an Aegis that was ranged very interesting 🤔

[next harbor]

I think it's great. You can put frontline as a main tank or off tank, you can put 2nd line as a tank healer and you can put backline as a support against AOE damage or rogue. If he had no range then he would always move from his initial position so we wouldn't be able to put in the backline to protect from rogues

[hollow cove]

Oh ya i am super excited to play around with the possibilities. Makes the game a lot less predictable

[next harbor]

Yeah definitely, this one looks like a valuable support and we need some illuvials like this

[worn sparrow]

Are those information correct ?

[rare pebble]

yeah the 25 hex makes sense now

[hollow bobcat]

If Andrew was the one who shot the leaked video and posted it on YouTube, he’s really a genius.

How many people will watch and rewatch the video: normal mode, slow mode, super slow mode, etc. damn, the YT algorithm is zinging right now!

I watched it 10 times yesterday and probably 10 more times today hahaha!

[rare pebble]

Is that a carpet @dense solar

Merch incoming

[frosty imp]

@worn quest I'm surprised you haven't ordered one of these yourself already

[rare pebble]

shhhh let him work on his video

😛

[worn quest]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-work-it-make-typing-gif-22231730

[quick sigil]

#🚰〕leaks message Freakin' Immersive!

[arctic ridge]

You don’t realize how big the over worlds are until you find the ranger. It’s like finding Waldo. They are just so little, it’s amazing!

[quick sigil]

didnt even see a single ranger, had to go back and check all three, they are there but Damn the Scene's are HUGE! its going to be so much fun to explore...

[mellow geode]

absolutely brilliant

[lunar jungle]

Those animations are so good it's crazy

I just can't get over about those ideas like tatopee hiding and tense up in his shell to launch barrage of homing missiles

[feral wren]

oooooof i really feel like percing is not a stat, don't you think it is Energy armor instead ? because we know that Illuvials do physical damage AND Energy Damage so it would make more sense to me if that symbol was energy armor actually.

like, here imo the stats from left to right are :
HP,Attack, Armor, Energy Armor, Precision and either Evasion or Attack speed on last

[junior thunder]

I guess the last one is attack speed

[hollow cove]

When you compare it to larger stage 3 Illuvials it decreases. Therefore we believe as the Illuvial gets bigger its evasion decreases

But who knows the stats may be place holders also 🤔

[feral wren]

that + Scoriox stat... Scoriox is an Atk speed character and it feels awkward to have that stat decreasing when evolving...

[junior thunder]

I guess I’ll watch the video again at 0.25 speed again😂

[spare ingot]

Still a way to have some kind of balancing and could be justified simply cause Phyriox looks bigger 😄

Aside from that, those stats tweaking are surely nothing but temporary and the easiest metrics to play with to try and balance the game as is (without hyper etc...)

Also something to keep in mind : as you're playing with a set amount of ressources to build your team, it seems fair that different stages of an illuvial will have different advantages (that could be lost from S1 to S2 or from S2 to S3) so each of the stages of an illuvial has a very specific role and cost/efficiency ratio

[sturdy ridge]

Could be move speed aswell. But I recon att speed more likely. Could be lower so the dps doesn’t jump too much between stages

[hollow cove]

Lol thats what i did.

Just join our guild. We have all of them on a word doc. And spend a lot of time accessing all the fine details.

You can just download it from our training materials channel.

[bronze pilot]

seems to me like an obvious balancing change as Phyriox' omega is to shoot faster. With an already high attack speed this would become broken. Instead they chose to lower attack speed but increase damage by 1.6x

[hollow bobcat]

Wow! Lot's of info to absorb!

[feral wren]

no, that's not "broken"... not compared to Rogues having 2s of untargettable in their spell

[bronze pilot]

Well then if it's not broken, maybe the animation would feel hurried if you had it play at 70att speed with a 20% increase? 😉 I don't understand where you got the idea that it is an "Attack speed character". I think it shows the growth in an illuvial that it doesn't just continue to shoot rapidly. Kids always go faster than adults. Having the fire-glands increase in power but with reduced attack speed seems neat to me.

[feral wren]

ok but we have the same speed decrease from Golliant to Titanor, which makes it seem as @hollow cove said, that the larger your unit is, the less evasion it has...