#💥〕leaks-discussion
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I could see that. If it was limited in a way where someone couldn't just buy an infinite supply off the market, it could reduce frustration without becoming p2w.
I'm with you, if the best shard doesn't guarantee a capture, tough luck, thems the rules. I'm worried that any kind of access to a 100% catch chance would basically completely bypass the way the bonding curve is designed, and inflate the supply of Illuvials intended to be very rare, which in turn hurts players who can't afford a 100% catch chance.
I just think it would end up being mandatory to buy and carry one for any profit oriented player - If some Illuvial is extremely valuable and rare, you'd be seriously mistaken to NOT carry a master shard at all times, in case you encounter one. Also, as soon as anything over some threshold was encountered, you'd automatically use that shard. Thus, the rarest Illuvials would become much more common than they would if captures were determined by the bonding curve.
It doesn't make much sense to develop a system to dictate roughly how many of which Illuvials will exist, and then give players a tool to completely ignore that mechanic.
Something I could get behind would be a consumable augment for shards that adds a flat % chance to capture. Something relatively light, but still impactful, 10%-20% range.
Ex. Base capture chance is 90, you could guarantee a capture with the augment.
Base capture chance is 15%, you could basically double your capture chances with the augment.
Probably would make sense for the augment to be something held by @tawdry coral or something. But it’s hard to say pay for this augment but if it doesn’t work then it’s only a one time opportunity. So linking it to a specific shard does make economic sense. So if you fail to make a capture you can try again with that same augmented shard next time.
I agree with you completely! The idea of a master shard is fun in theory but yea I don't think it'll be beneficial for the long term sustainability of the economy.
Yeah, you could tie it to a shard. I was thinking, at some point, there can be value in having materials or assets leave the ecosystem, as it would keep the prices of things from declining over time. Could go either way on whether it's consumable or not, depending what the team felt was the right call.
If the game has a master shard then the cost of a master shard will dictate the price of the given illuvial and for those who grind early hoping to gain rare illuvials the price of the master shard might undercut their efforts and early support of the game. Unless the master shard was really expensive or you were limited to 1 per player per some amount of time.
If this is seriously being considered then please limit it to one per use forever. Unlimited Master shards in circulation will be be good for the economy
guaranteed catch item would either need to be hilariously expensive or just not exist, imo
Please no
This one
yeah a master shard is fairly contradictory to the bonding curve mechanic isn't it - a bonus % capture augmentation is better on further thought
That could work as well, yep
I second the just not existing idea haha
#nomastershards @rigid cypress
I too am against the master shard idea, but really like what you've suggested Blickter. Boosting %s seems like a great idea for an augmented shard as a boost but nothing should be guaranteed (unless it was something basic with an already high capture rate and the augment makes it 100% - but seems like a waste of the augment considering the already high capture rate).
This is sort of like World of Warcraft Classic. The Arcanite Bar that can only be crafted once every 2 day by each person is still a super rare material so I feel if you made it so at a certain point you will be able to craft a “master shard” however only once every 2 days or so it’ll still be in high demand and not too common to get a bunch of them. However I agree that there should not be something that has an extremly high chance of a catch that takes the excitement out of the game
One per month, I think they should be really rare.
I think it would be best to make it an event item IF it is going to be added. Once a while one will be handed out to the winner of an event, or maybe those in the ranked leaderboards. Like a Lottery of some sorts.
Random numbers:
X could be handed out to the top 100, X to the top 1000 and X to the top 100.000
This gives you a good incentive to go grind in the ranked arena as your chances for a Master shard will go up considerably. It won't be pay to play, as even the worst of players have a chance of 1/20K to get a master shard, and those in the top 10 will have different cool rewards so the master shard will only be an added bonus if they do get one.
Maybe the collosseum masters can also mint one once a while, as their collosseum makes that possible idk. but it would make your investors happy i guess. Even once a month would be good enough, as they could then give that shard to their primary T5 scholar who finds that ultra-rare-holo-rhamphire and catches it. No need to have one every 2 days 😄
Agree that an extra boost would be good as well.
The %boost is a nice compromise, not a 100% garanted capture but still have way to grind to get more change to capture a rare illuvials. I like it very much 🙂
Kinda agree with this but not via competition
This could be an item dropped with a 0.0001% droprate
Because giving it to the top players is basically giving it to whales = p2w
While if it s a really lucky item it s basically a free ticket to the Charlie chocolatery for the lucky soul who got it
Might be a noob not knowing it that would use it on tier 0 Illuvials 👀
Just like my sister used my master ball in Blue ._. at a time
I heard that getting a competitive deck in the ranked arena would not be super expensive. The illuvials are pegged to eachother, you can choose the fused rank of your illuvial by owning a stage 1, so getting high ranked in the arena is worked on from various angles to be low cost.
And i especially said Ranked, as the Leviathan Arena is the véry P2W side of the game i think.
Edit: I hoped to give it to the skilled and overly committed people 😄
You right on this well if it s ranked yep it might be a good idea
Event based is definitely a good idea too, that way they still would be extremely rare and it wouldn't be p2w. Most people would likely keep it or sell it for a high price, similar to a super rare T5 or something anyway I think.
So... About that gameplay video...
Perhaps the Master Shard could only be crafted Once per year, and not tradeable.
Should still require some level of effort to craft, or only able to be crafted once you reach a certain level (to stop people multi accounting just for it)
Meaning that each account would in effect receive 1 "guaranteed" catch each year... up to them how they used it.
And still need to find and win the battle first, to be given chance to use it.
Maybe it could be part of a 2 week Xmas Special event or something
Not a fan of tying it to accounts if we decide to intro it. People will just create more accounts and we'll end up with main accounts and a million master shard accounts. I'd be more tempted to have it be a reward for players to earn in various ways. You've unlocked the ability to craft a master shard. You can craft one and then have to acquire another permission to craft another.
one time use blueprint, interesting
Yeah good point regarding the accounts.
But I definitely think there may be ways to introduce them to the game, without affecting the Rarity of Illuvials too much.
But I do feel they should not be transferable. Otherwise high level farmers WILL buy a bunch of them and just use it to farm the Valuable T5s.
Feels like to make proper use of them, you would need to change the bonding curve method to make it Harder to FIND those Illuvials, rather than Harder to CATCH
(Which to me makes more sense from a Lore perspective... if they are becoming so Rare enough that it's difficult to catch them... but you see them commonly... that doesnt make sense)
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Or does the Bonding Curve increase the difficulty of the Illuvials that are coming in to fight With that Rarer Illuvial.
So like it has stronger and more qty of "body guards" the lower it gets on the bonding curve?
Kind of like if the Illuvials were banding together to try and protect the remaining few of that species.
So the Encounter rate, and shard Capture % doesn't change from the Bonding curve, but the chances of winning a Battle reduces exponentially due to the Strength of that Illuvials team.
This would then incentivize you to continue to strengthen your own team, and improve your strategy, so that you have a chance of catching the Bonding Curved Illuvials
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Either way, I think that the current "Bonding curve level" should be indicated on the scan data before going into an encounter. So that you don't waste time and energy fighting an Illuvial you have 0.001% chance of capturing.
If the "Body Guard" theory above is correct, then that should be indicator enough, because you would be able to see the strength of the enemy team you are about to fight
You earn a master shard once you caught them all. How wholesome?
(Also, I don’t want master shards to exist.)
To create a master shard you should have to burn a Stage 3 Illuvial. Then it would make a master shard specific to that type. So you would burn a Ramphyre and It would create 'T5 inferno master shard.' It could only be used on Illuvials of the matching tier and type.
Rather than being a guaranteed catch it could have an equation like (base odds*2)+50%. This way it isnt guaranteed but would be sufficient for most things.
Keeps things fairly balanced, prevents inflating much beyond the bonding curve due to the burn and it would be a good way to allow people to farm high stat Illuvial's without an absolute trash catch rate once the bonding curve winds up.
Edit: would brobably need to be specific to the finish as well so you cant go from non holo -> holo
What if, Illuvium Zero land produced the Master shards (very long and hard to produce).
Maybe make it that you needed to have scanned 100 different Illuvials to have gained the knowledge and energy to be able to create 1 Master Shard.
But each land can produce only 1 Master shard, so there will only ever be 100k Master shards ever available.
So initially they will be valuable... but as they get burnt with use... they would be EXTREMELY valuable.
Imagine how much the very last MasterShard would be worth in say 5 years!!
I like this better 👆
Sounds better yes. The owner can’t use the master shard himself though. Must be sold on the market, only the second user may have the privilege to use it hehe. That would maybe be another reason to create multiple accounts to sell/trade to as Ben mentioned.
I would vote no personally I like the the idea of almost impossible catch illuvials and ultra rare elusive illuvials and against anything that would disrupt that
no simply because I think Illuvium zero should not have any "items" that are not purely cosmetic
I do like the idea of a one time blueprint with each land only ever producing one. Extremely exclusive and makes it truly feel Master Ballish since you only ever got one in game.
Perhaps to combat this idea - and a bit controversial for this one - something caught in a master shard is not sellable?
You could have the master shard be an end game content like you have to be in the top 10% of ranked for at least a week, finished the storyline and have accomplished a certain level in survival mode to then finally earn a one time only master shard. If you make the ranked percentage and survival mode level high enough you could control the number of master shards that enter into the game.
Or have it be a reward for finishing the illuviary that way the one time master shard is more of a if I come across a holo after catching everything once I can make sure and secure it.
Or, What if the Master shard was a combination of the above
Illuvium Zero land was able to produce 1 each only (very hard and costly to produce,) - so max 100k Master Shards ever available
Tradeable on the Marketplace etc.
Then, they can only be refilled ONCE per Year.
To refill them, you need to participate in a Special Event that only occurs once a year, for 2 weeks
This event is caused by a Comet that passes by on its Annual orbit, and the Comet emits a unique Commetic Radiation that is somehow collected by the Malfunctioning AI that does the Survival mode (orrr maybe that burst of radiation was what caused the original malfunction....)
Anyway, if you connect your Empty Master Shard to the AI, and can successfully beat level 42 of the Survival mode - 3 times in a row- during that 2 week period, then enough Commetic radiation can be collected to recharge the Master Shard!
Yeah... I do like the idea of once gone, never to return.... if you thought Bitcoin tokens were valuable... wait till you try and get 1 of the few remaining Illuvium Master Shards!
Then this make it more P2W coz not everyone can afford to buy a piece of land in illuvium zero. I prefer the idea of having it as rewards in rank arena or tied through events
The Leviathan Shard. A reward for some sort of competition. Whether on survival or in ranked. Or even some other achievement.
I agree with this, but as for your follow up comment, I would like Zero to have non cosmetic items. Fuel already is erc20
It could come, at some point, in the third ILV game. It doesn't have to be right now.
Or in some single time, big world event related to the story of the game
That is a good idea, leverage the popularity and demand of Illuvium main as a way to springboard the success of the 3rd game release.
By having the Master Shards created via the 3rd game (hopefully MMORPG... super Difficult 32 player Raid drop or something)
Then guilds would be cross-game, raiding to get that rare item, which would garantee the capture of an otherwise almost impossible to catch Illuvial in main game, Bringing fortune into the guild
and also it means that Master Shards are not available until the 2nd or 3rd year after Illuvium Main releases.
so it would also reinvigorate interest and mix up the Meta of Illuvium Main
he said it twice, because they cancel each other out... we are NOT joking... we want the NPC's who give the Master Shard quest in the new game named after us
Thank you, by far the best contribution to this thread over the last 50 Master shard messages 🥸
Will players be able to earn/unlock/buy battle board skins down the line?
@regal linden mate hope you are doing well. All of you are doing an amazing work. Keep on! You have all of us very hyped and eager of more leaks!
Yes, this is Aaron's plan, but more work goes into these spaces than anywhere else so I would hesitantly say, treat this as a long term goal
As always, all the leaks are amazing. Thanks for giving us so many leaks @old sierra
Do you think Illuvium will have Festival/Holiday Events? or would that be too Lore breaking?
like a really cool Halloween Battle Board -glowing pumpkins, moving Illuvial skeletons, Grim Rhamphyr(instead of Reaper)
Xmas Themed ones, Summer Xmas (Atlas sitting on a beach chair drinking a stubby, while Squizz is surfing), Winter Xmas etc
and to imagine they would be in Unity, and we could fully explore them with our camera in all different angles while the battle is going on! It would make the price absolutely worth it
it feels like i need to find more middle finger emotes...
🧑🎄 jk
OMG... I am doing this at the next Staff Xmas party!!!!
Oh man! Battle Board skins would be so l33t! Treat it as illuvitars if you can! Limited base boards. Pay for accessory boxes where we can customize our very own boards. It can be anywhere from an illuvial mascot on the side. Think Atlas in a cheerleading outfit. Or having random themed items around the map.
Those with T5 Lands should be getting access to this for their arenas but with additional perks.
@granite musk @violet heath
Why are you not using the atlas one! For shame! 
We just pitched our first influencer on exactly this
Imma need to get me more sILV when V2 comes out. Land, illuvitars, now battle boards! Geekgasm!
whats sanctum mesa?
I used it on Grant, didn't want to be repetitive and use it on Rogier also.
Feel like we need different 1 for each cheeky Dev... so that's a LOT needed haha
I want an atlas pulling his lower eyelid down and rasping
There are town square, can we met other people over there? I tot I have to play alone in this planet since it unreasonable to have many guys crash into the same planet.
Ok so first on priority list for Illuvium L2... is a Shopping cart feature, I don't want to be doing individual transactions for every item...
I want it to be like Supermarket Sweep, where I am clicking this, that and everything else and buying EVERYTHING at once!!
Thats been suggested as a game idea. Where sanctum mesa is mmorpg common area where we can all see each other. But expect that down the line if ever they agree to it
No more down the line!!
HIRE HIRE HIRE!!
AELIN where are you?? It's time for you to help Illuvium Development to the Moon!!
Hahaha, I want to know more about AELIN too, but perhaps it's early with all the work going on right now
I think they will first release v2, landsale, illuvatar, beta etc before thinking in aelin... Or perhaps not, who knows
@regal linden Get well soon man, I hope it doesnt get to you to heavy and you can resume fast to give us some more of your beautifull art!
Yep. Long term goal.
No Obama gif?
The safe area.
You are alone at the start. But that’s just because we are focusing on core loops. Long term you will see players.
Hey Aaron, do you think we might see 2v2 battles sometime in the distant future?
I've always liked having partner in crime and many games don't do such modes.
You make it. Send it to me. I will steal it and take the credit.
Web fresno battle board theme
Whats the Omega Cinema from today's leak?
Will there be a new gameplay trailer soon?
FIREEEE
@smoky raven awesome video ideas!
That has me sooo hyped.
Awesome leak 😀
Nope.
It takes too much resources away from the game production atm.
We will start it soon
Amazing leak! Cant wait for that show 😍
Nice-- Gods Unchained does this, where you can select the base for your half of the board and 2 accessories. It doesn't quite appeal to me BUT their options are pretty limited and don't vary so much. I think with our team, this could have tons of variety and customization in the long run.
Granted, I think our team might put a lot more time into creating those assets as well in order to make them pristine and something people want to pay for👍
I guess it's not for everyone but it would be nice to have your own unique touch on a board you'll be staring hours on end as you grind ranked ladder hehehe.
Considering the pedigree of the team whatever they create would be way more complex and awesome hehehe.
@smoky raven are you going to be doing the production all by yourself or do you have a team that's doing the live prod with you?
His team will grow as we get closer to mainstream events
Most likely ending with full scale production team and studio
Really excited with the ramp up in marketing and the news of getting to know the CCs through the platform. Are you planning to open the interviews to the community? Not just influencers? So instead of Volkin or Vetemor conducting the interview theyre the ones being asked questions about how they got in illuvium what drives them to create their content etc lol
soo sanctum mesa will be the open world start lobby! sick! im so hyped for the leviathan arena
Really hoping it can be converted later on to a mini mmo social hub. You can enter specific "room" with a max number of people to just hang out in SM. You can chat and show off your emotes as well as illuvitars. When it gets fully developed you can have a mini illuvial following you around as well. Imagine seeing your dark holo Rhampy flying a few steps behind you. People would be so jelly.
damn that's a lot of sick leaks to wake up to 
GM to you Jeff! While I am about to conk out for the night. Its 130am here
guys sorry for the dumb question: is already know how the game will work, illuvial charateristics, stats and how a battle will work ?
you can find some information there, but not everything has been released yet
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insane lol. love it
wow just checked this out. great stuff yall!
Flarg....I wanna play so bad......gimme gimme gimme 🤤
its spicy 🔥 🌶
That was some exciting gameplay. GJ
@old sierra Great new leak! However I had trouble finding the remaining energy. I thought it would be a lil' bit bigger
What makes me hyped, and I may be wrong about it, is that I love TFT, but the games are so long. Having only one opponent may actually be a really good take.
wow this was such a great leak! This is literally all I wanted to see out the Gameplay Trailer lol.
Cool effect
The hex tiles (1/8 or 2/8) make sense to me, but what's the downwards arrow with 1/2?
(UI)
A few name, tier and affinity leaks 
What's up with the yellow bar beside our characters? I understand the mana with blue bar, but not the yellow. Is that the crit bar? Cuz I know it aint random, more of a meter thing
Hyper bar
What? I think I misunderstood how Hyper works then. I thought it was simpler, like water doing 1.5x damage against fire or stuff like that
Ohhhh that's it, but it gotta charge
It's like that for affinities, for classes they gain bonus effects.
😮
Looks fuckin.g amazing!! 😍

And That was on a mid-range PC? Damn. I wonder what "Maxed-out Setting" looks like 👀
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeen! Those leaks were better than I expected!!!🤩🤩🤩

I want unreal engine 5 everywheeeeeeeeeeeere
this is UE4 not 5!
That comes later....eventually 🙂
I knoooooooooow
The best you'll see is using 'Cinematic Mode' where the battle is rendered rather than 'live'. In that mode, we turn on crazy stuff like full fur and way more lighting effects.
And the cool thing about that mode is anyone can use it.
If you have a potato PC it will take longer to get your vid.
I like the point budget as well, 125 to spend - T4S1 costing 45, T4S2 costing 65 (+20), T4S3 costing 90 (+25). Is that close to the kind of progression the team wants across Tiers (i.e. progressive bumps from S1 to S2 and S2 to S3)?
@granite musk The remaining energy on bottom of the screen is small or is it me? I had trouble finding it
UI is very WIP
And if I’m not mistaken, you can save the “battle” as a txt file, right?
We save it for you.
Stop pumping my feelings Aaron. Can't take it anymore. gonna have to play 😄
O that was cool. Great for content creators.
I'm curious of what was the main reason behind going with different size of hexs in comparaison to TFT where all characters have the same board size? Except "its cool".

I just noticed something, the hexes are not fixed but rather they are bigger or smaller based on the size of the unit. Not only this is cool looking but also this opens up so many advanced positioning for PVP
Whatever that is, I need it
Would this be available in 1v1 fights?
Wouldn't want 1 person to be there waiting for the game to start because the other guy wants to run Full Cinematic on his Calculator...
Since battle save file size is minuscule we can save them all. We still haven't worked on things like 'versioning' so that they can be run exactly as existed at the time. But we probably won't worry about that to begin with. Since there will be huge changes.
Yes the positioning options are fucking amazing. Unit size is a first also
So the first few battles will be deleted
GOnna be hard to be precise on mobile lmao
yes, this adds depth to the strategy. We were also told that Bigger units could potentially attack over the frontline tanks, if they happen to have long arms
Edit: i'm talking about melee units, cuz obviously range unit gonna attack from a distance
Yes it's available. You don't see the battle at the same time as your opponent. You're both running the battle on your own PCs. So they don't have to wait for you.
THIS LOOKS SO GOOD. I wish I could self induce a coma and wake up when the game is out.
My only critique would be that the Illuvials seem to move a little slow. If i was in the middle of a fight and getting shot at I would put a bit more hustle into it than these guys 😛
Will be ezpz I think
I thought that between each round, you would have around 20seconds to make actions/adjustments before the next round.
So wouldn't that be affected if someone is watching their game delayed by 1 minute due to visual quality?
or am I confusing that with the Survival mode?
i'll trust you. i'll have to zoom in a lot tho cause big fingers lol
This little snail really has some POWER... health bars getting chunked by its ultimate haha
I've actually got some code that I'm working on to fix up a few things that will make this look better.
In games like TFT you get really weird movements. They zigzag and look like idiots. With our smaller hexes we can fix this, but it causes all sorts of other problems that we are working to resolve.
I never expected that this game would include the size of each illuvials. I mean, I read the dev newletter but I didn't really believe it would go that far. I really like it because more depth means more time to "solve" the game and we will spend many months, if not years, before building the complex successful strategies
Am I right in thinking illuvials have different "costs" to play them? So you can't have a full team of stage 3 massive illuvials?
Cinematic Render mode happens offline. You can't do it in a match directly. You have to do the match, then download the file and render it high quality.
Like maybe... you could use a few small fodder units to sit and block the movement of 2 or 3 of the Opponents bigger units, while your overpowered Ranged guy at the back picks them off.
Would be especially effective if different Illuvials have different ranges
THAT makes sense!
Thank you for the clarifications
Yeah I hate when a big meta takes over the place in games. The more depth in the game, the more strategy can emerge and F*** the current meta
Correct.
So we said 'we have differently sized units' and you went... 'nah, you don't.'? 😛
Thanks. Interesting to see what strategies come out such as having a super strong stage 3 then using cheaper lower stage illuvials as supports by boosting the stage 3 with affinity choices. Looks great!
Yeah, TFT seems to be for children compared to that. Well I guess for now I'm just a youtuber for children I guess...
This will add depth in deck Building. You cant just put tons of big illuvials in there. You gotta put, idk, 20% S3, 40% S2, 40% S1, or stuff like that. Gonna be fun
just like building a MAgic the gathering mana curve
I personally love to flip the meta in auto battler
It's hard to have a meta in our game because you're playing one person. If you 'outdraft' them, then you can win even if they have a strong team.
Basically there are two things you want to do:
- Build a synergistic team.
- Build a team that counters your opponent.
It's hard to do both at the same time. Especially with Enhancements and such. There is still a lot to do. Lots. of updates in the next week.
And will there be a Mana Banking strategy? Like how TFT has the Gold interest?
(Sorry if this was previously answered and I forgot)
I thought it was more for exploration and animation but not in real PVP fights. I'm too used to TFT where everything is standardized so this leak just blew my mind completely 
Oh man I’m missing it
Quick Pelican is here... everyone stop talking
With deck of only 30 cards, I think it will be litterally impossible to build for every scenarios. Some opponent just gonna have that one synergy you cant Counter with Hyper
i like that
Ramphy's omega ability looked amazing
I can tell you that this was a big fucking pain in the ass to do.
When we started out we picked auto battlers and collectible games. Collectible games have units that truly 'evolve' and become new things. So instead of 50 units, we needed 150. That was mistake number 1 that we made. Then we said if we will have differently sized units we should reflect that in the battle board and let them move around fluidly. Mistake 2.
They did take longer to solve than we thought.
Would you say that a meta in a game like magic/hearthstone is more stale than in TFT? If so, where do you imagine Illuvium
The improvement from the movement in the trailer is already super noticeable, Much smoother. I also REALLY liked the look of the different size Illuvials, Its gonna lead to a ton of creative formations especially if you guys add the variable attack range for melee creatures. Ive been playing a bit of Dota Underlords for some practice but the added level of complexity here is unreal.
completely understandable
In the comments of the most recent youtube interview, people are complaining about the fact that this game is going to be a auto battler. I even saw that kind of comment in this server.
But probably it was totally worth it at the end? 😛
well so far i'm hyped about this game almost only because its an autobattler
And Kieran is still like... I just wanted a few cool images to sell online... what glorious monstrosity has this now become...
I would say that our 'meta' will be less WILD than TFT. We will attempt to not 'balance thrash' like they do. But because you play one person, each match should feel more unique.
Yeah I think people will change their mind when videos start showing how the autobattler will work. Up until now, The official videos dont show that
We only seen it here, in leaks
Some people don't like autobattlers. MOST people just don't know what they are and say 'I don't like it'.
Yeah this is sad. I think some will change their mind soon, when a more official video show how it will work. Is that a WIP ?
Some people don't like Gamefi. MOST people just don't know what it really is, and say 'it's just another crypto scam'
I think so. There about 5 more challenges that we have to solve before we get this thing to be 'holy shit, no autobattler beats it' level. And not all of them will be ready for public beta. But it's all good. We will get there.
Can we get armors for our illuvials? Something line Chestplate or helmet? In the future I mean.
This makes sense and I believe that's why most games have standardized 3d models I suppose. While reading your message I understand much better the pain about shipping out 150 models with different sizes and coding their impact on the game. In French we say "chapeau bas", meaning I take my hat and salute you for your amazing work. This is truly amazing and I can only imagine now the amount of strategies we can build on this auto battler
One day we might even get to 'prerendered ship in a hangar' level.
Everyone I know IRL is just aannoyed by the whole crypto/nft market growing. of course they will say this game will be shit lol
No. You can have augments
But they aren't things they wear.
Wearables come in Hearts Ablaze.
Haha yeah, pissed because they think they missed the 10x train... yet not understanding this is just the first few stops before it heads to the MOON!
Hell yeah! come on a date with my Warhorse Armored Atlas
https://tenor.com/view/cat-let-me-seduce-you-gif-11730612
People are right to bash the NFT game space. There is just so much garbage. SOMEONE will make people stand up and take notice. Why not us?
Dude… it looks so good, that survival mode leak has me feeling some type of way, i cant believe how smooth and fluid it is? Literally feels better than anything else out rn? The snail lines ranged attacked especially in the second round are incredible! I am genuinely impressed, good work fellas.
Hearts Ablaze? 😮
I love your mindset
Me circa 2010 xD
Answer score: 10/10
We all want to be Illuvium THE game that changed it all
Glad you like it. There are so many improvements to make. Grant actually told me that he wouldn't allow the leak. Because he knows there are about 5 things that will be fixed by next week. UI, anims, movement, etc...
We're already a week late with this so I said 'pls ser'
And he caved.
"ser" did the trick 👀
Should I ask him "pls ser give me private beta access" to have it as well? 
Love the way it looks! I cannot wait to finally play!!
Aaron, one question.. when u say that the battle gonna be "deterministic" (I think that was the expression used) u mean that we gonna see always the same result when playing with same illuvials (ours and others) at same positions?
Btw, the gamedev itself can't even beat the wave 2.
Yes, and that is how they can save a whole fight in a single txt file
Poor strategy. No offense
Haha, I can only imagine how massively varied the Conversation tone between all you brothers... surely it must go from Laughing Joking, to threats of headbashings, back to friendly conversation all very quickly and very often
Although it was just a test so I`m ok with it 😌
He better show us how he improved next week. :p
and they chose affinities that gave the bot the Hyper advantage
But if we play against each other and supose we use same formation at same spot.. the result will be the same?
Aaron’s your huckleberry
yes
No RNG involved?
As you can see, I added a 2 layer deep raytrace, with additional 17 photo particles per hex.. obviously
Rest of us in comments... Oh Wow!! whisper to guy next to you, "does it look the same to you??"
Yeah, if you were to play the exact same comp AGAINST the exact same comp in the exact same positions, it would be the exact same result.
So, no % of missing attacks, critical, etc?
Depend on spell targeting but no RNG if spell targeting are determinist and no cc / dcc
Well yes, but it is implemented in a different way than you expect
there are no random targeting behaviours.
Yes, but I guess all the dices are rolled before the fights and it is saved in the txt file
no
No dice
Ah, so I was wrong xD
I though that too
Selecting the EXACT same position on a hex grid like that would be incredibly difficult. Plus there will be changes between rounds and the enhancements.
Can u explain this a lil more Ben?
that was an example.. my doubt was about the RNG of missing, criticals, etc..
So I dont know how to explain it in the good words but if a illuvial has a higher crit rate, they will fill a "crit meter" faster, and when the crit bar is full, you crit. It will happen kind of at a "random" moment, but it not random.
@cyan yacht @next harbor
hmmmmm that's point
Omega's have targeting, so we can define anything we want. Could have targeting focus on the nearest enemy, furthest enemy, one with highest savagery, one with most enhancements, one with the least health ect.
read up and down from this msg to help explain it a bit more
And if there's equality ?
You explained it well, that looks really great actually
the same happens with dodge I think, and some other stuff
correct
Would things like dodge be implemented through entropy then?
For lack of a better example, like evasion in PoE? xD
I’m gonna have so much work to do this weekend. I should not be here.
So there is literally no RNG except for the Legendary Enhancement which are somewhat similar to the "Augments" in TFT right now, but that's only for the PVP fights (not survivale mode?)
Well, yeah I guess those are pure random
Not like TFT augments. Like items in tft. Just bigger badder ones.
I really like the no random targeting approach, and the minimal amount of rng there will be in fights, allows you to execute specific strategies and counters better. And probably less frustration.
You have normal augments, and then legendary augments.
ty!
@rigid cypress but legendary aug are going to be pure random right? And saved in the save file as a list
edit: Well, not pure random since pure random doesnt exist in coding, but you know what I mean. pseudo random
We need to bet on them and whoever wins the bet will fight with the augments on their side
I also don’t think 1 hr is enough to explain the level of depth Illuvium is going to bring. Mobile game, mobile auto chess game, Crafting systems, gathering, all the biomes and their different attributes weren’t highlighted as well due to lack of time
yes but we gonna bet energy I think, which mean you could place less creatures on the battlefield cuz of that
They're what we call input randomness. But yes, prior to the battle. You won't have any clue what will be available.
And normal augments are going to be litterally in your deck
Yeah exactly, so if you bet too much energy on every augment then you don't have any resources left to deploy units
Which is completely different than what we see in tft
again, love the depth of the strategy
Not in the internal documents....
Same, I've been greatly frustrated with RNG on TFT and this feels almost too good to be true
Oh how those early, internal brother chats have flipped
H Y P E
A F
Could we get a legendary augment example 🙂
The part I hate the most in tft is the carroussel thing. The item I want always ended up to be the opposite side of me, and the guy played AFTER me got it
I wanna see 1 legendary augment, pls ser
Lmao
Plus the matchmaking trolling you so you are not positionned against the single assassin of the lobby who obliterates your comp + the bad RNG because you don't roll your 4 cost unit even though you decided to play it because it's uncontested, etc... The fact that you can be punished because you played well but got unlucky is something that goes beyond my nerves
@rigid cypress Not to rain on your parade but there's still many more to go, and let's just say your hesitancy to use links instead of straight text is now going to bite you in the ass.
Battles look amazing only thing I was worried about was movement and they seem much faster now
Titanor's Chest Carapace - aka Thornmail
It’s just a spikey orb.
Some people like it cuz it is less serious, more casual, I get it, but it also annoys me
It always annoyed competitors and I feel like Illuvium is going to satisfy many competitors thanks to the design
ILV is going all in with the Collector/Competitor mindset
@old sierra The top left Hexagon animation were 👌
Crypto Traders : OMG the entire Market is Crashing, WHAT IS GOING ON!
Illuvium: Oh Sorry guys, we just released some more insanely cool shit... everyone needs to Liquidate other assets to Buy EVERYTHING/ANYTHING Illuvium
I was actually thinking about this. Well… who knows. He might ask you guys for an AMA 😃
What do you mean? Do you see some pumping I missed?
I'd do it, purely for the lols
You can accidentally change your video feed to some old quote.
Everyone fucks with the wrong one eventually
who is Kira?
Haha. I was one of the first person to watch his video about illuvium and I was like, “you just wait” and I think waiting is almost over if not over. 😎
From the context, I guess Kira is some YouTuber against ILV
Some YouTube channel called kiratv
Anyway the proof is out there.
I see, ty
Nice job team. I feel like y’all are doing good work.
I'm in general chat somewhere predicting his input
But still, got a long way to go before everything has that AAA polish
Make the number of energy left in creature placement phase a lil bit bigger
Sorry... that was my crying in my head that I dont have enough money to buy all the cool shit that will be coming out in Illuvium.
and so I was predicting a conversation that would be happening in some time in the future
I didn’t say you were done.
Small edits are not something we are doing right now. The purpose is to get everything to 80% and focus on implementation of all functionality.
And then we will go back over it.
Because right now you say 'make it bigger' and then we work out in 2 weeks that we need to redo a whole bunch and suddenly that's a wasted change. Wen you have to work at 3 years per year, you have to be efficient.
Whole video looks great! So hyped for the betas to get underway - wonder if there's any plans for quicker movements of illuvials that could be speedier in lore? Such as dash just kind of slowly waddled to reach his opponent rather than running - understand if theirs constraints on speed though in terms of game mechanics
For sure. We have a bulk set of tasks for each illuvial. This includes walk.
For now, he will walk.
Later we will do another pass where we add 'run' to every illuvial.
And then we will trigger the run anim if the speed is high enough. And we can then set some illuvials much higher. However, don't expect this super soon. Adding run to one, means hooking that up in the code so that they all can do it. Not a huge task, but the guys are always under the pump.
Awesome! Understandably not high on the priority list but cool to see it'll be implemented.
I don't think the game is actually delayed. Devs are just not launching it cuz they have too fun playing it for themselves. 
Hehe they refuse to release until they catch the 1st Hollo!!
They are not sure who to blame for making it so damn hard!
Yup. And Grants live streams are just recorded footage from 6 month ago.
EDIT: Wonder how Crimson waste actually looked like 6 months ago
The graphic is juicy
Im seriously in love with Tatopee’s (stage 1 snail) slower moving long range artillery style attacks, looks awesome, definitely gonna look to catch one of them straight away.
Are those numbers on the right of each illuvials their tiers or their levels?
Top right corner should be tiers
Got it.
What amazing leaks today! Wow that Scarabok stun really messed things up.
haha, Volkin is like FINALLY I have something to do!!
(you seemed a bit bored the past few days, waiting for some news to break)
Now it is like Holyshit, so much to think about, make a video on this, theory craft on that... Aaron said this, maybe it is legit, maybe he just trolling again...
Haha, I literally just finished watching his video
Yeah, look at the body language and how excited he was at the start of the video... like a fat kid in a candy store!
For sure and I think I am equally as excited
Wen ultraspeed time for each Illuvial fren
https://c.tenor.com/mOKsWpJptuIAAAAM/speed.gif
100% lots to cover for a few days now
So much depth in that game this is great
Yup this blew my mind as well, I was expecting something similar to TFT when they said they switched into hexed boards. But I wasn't expecting this kind of hexes that make positioning more dynamic
I noticed Tatopee only used half of his energy for his first omega, but then all of it on his second omega?
Yeah this can be very crucial. I know from Clash of Clans, in some cases if you misplace a unit with one pixel he takes the wrong route. Will be similar to this, very excited to see what strategies we have learn with just placement of the units.
Im curious, do we have illuvials that are flying during battle in hex grid or everything will be on ground.
It looks like it could be a Omega skill for bird-like Illuvials
Not just with the omega, illuvials that are always in flying mode like zoebat in pokemon
Yeah for that I have no clue about it
We have info that big illuvials like maybe ramphyre will be able to attack above other creatures. Like, stay behind the frontline and attack ennemies behind it
Yeah I know but Ramphyre comes down after doing its omega what I mean is illuvials that do basic attacks and omega from above because these type of illuvials will be OP dew to the fact that it will not be hit from vertical attacks like titanic's omega ability.
I mean ramphyre auto attack. He has long enough arms to attack above some ennemies. But yeah I get what you mean
GOOD MORNING ILLUVIALS
We are not illuvials tho, we are rangers
But good morning
@rare pebble Good morning to all rangers/ILLUVIALS
This plus the fact that each illuvial have their own different number of hexes occupied depending on their size. The minute detail on that has huge strategic impact!
Illuvials are those creatures which are hunted and captured by rangers
Hey y'all! Grant is livestreaming IN-GAME right now on Youtube-- come check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usSuDqAhUQs
all I can think of when watching the stream: the market is so undervaluing this, the patient will gmi
This stream is brutal 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
At every step of the way, when the question is 'Should we do the stupidest, hardest, coolest thing?' we always say yes.
It has starting energy.
Can't sleep after watching the stream. 
and we'll see halcyon sea next week !!!!!!
Yoo I arrived at the end of that stream any new important info?
we are going to see more and more of those stream and next week we go to halcyon sea 🙂
the team are such beasts
Yeah, it's a pleasure to follow this project with people who like to challenge the statu quo and standards. The auto battler genre is still a baby compared to other genres and it's great to see already a lot of innovation!
Out of curiosity, what is the expected average time for a PVP game?
Really excited about the footage that has been released the past few days!
Are they going to be recorded? Because with my luck I’d miss it; and Halcyon Sea is my fav region
if you look at the #🚰〕leaks you can watch the stream all over again, this will probably be the same setup 🙂
Perfect
“So in game you could fly up here, crack your head on the ceiling, fall down, drown in this pool of acid, and become the Joker” 🤣 Grant leaking some pretty insane mechanics in that stream haha
You ready for a wall of leaks lol
@limber mortar yet again your work on Halcyon is just insane
Try to match sleep pattern to leak pattern... we are going to need stronger drugs...
Just so you know - that fire placement stuff. All the VFX for placement @severe swift started concepting on Friday.
And it's already in the game. By Thurs...
wooooahh, Time Travel!
Wow Marco you are a machine
Probably because we both briefed it. More briefs = more betterer.
I think my grammar might be infecting you
I kinda feel like if I asked Grant how many grains of sand are in Burning Steppes... he would be able to tell me off the top of his head
But the infection is “uncomplete “
ahahahhahahahahahaha
Italians do it better 
This is completely blowing my mind right now....
HOLY SHIT!!! The leaks!! I have a NEW FAVORITE!!!
✨
The team are just beasts, this is so good, i love all the projectile attacks.
All the fights I do I put down like 3 of them each time.
So much fun
Seems the 2x Snail attack videos are the same? or am i missing something
That was NOT anyway anyhow expected, and as a Destiny 2 hard core player, I’m super excited!
with the Unstraight projectile path of the Snail ranged attack, will that hit others who are blocking it?
Nah, these ones don't.
They target at the nearest enemies
so no need for blocking behaviour
Sooo many leaks! And all looks top notch as always.
Is there a soundtrack availble for the score?
What a day to be alive. Grant deliver as best when he’s up all night 
I seem to be learning new words 👀
Thylacine be like
https://tenor.com/view/pose-whip-it-hit-me-gif-17185270
Thank you so much 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Now let's see what Ethereum price does today...
Sometimes I feel like the quality of these leaks must be propping up the entire Crypto market!
Well, maybe when they drop an official video on youtube. Less likely to have an impact when the leaks are only on this server
@granite musk on that note, where is Fresno then?
Fresno was the easiest thing, and only second coolest.
We're not leaking the best Illuvials, so there is still excitement on release. Now where do you think a legendary design like that would be.
I miss the synergy leaks already lol
The hearts that are gonna stop after seeing the best 😄
I think the snails basic attack and Omega attacks are the same in the leaks, or did I miss something?
I think it would be legendary
so many cool leaks today... but that stream is amazing, thanks for sharing this. It's so unique to get a glimpse into the level of details, the amount of work and talent that goes into building this game. it's mind-blowing how far you guys have come in such short time... cant wait to see and try out the final result. 🙂
Do we know how the snail looks like under its shell…I mean, Fresno would fit under there
no rule34.
What do you mean? 👀
HELL YES on those 3D prints!!
Now THAT is the Merch I am looking for!!
Let's play dnd with some ILV figurines
Can I buy those with sILV??
Omg a 3D printed atlas 
Should be that every Hand Painted 3D printed Figurine, comes with it's own NFT equivalent Statue that you can place on your BattleBoard!!!
I would love to see a Figurine representing each of the Lead Core Contributors.
and have both my Desk and my BattleBoard full Dev Team Flex!
@old sierra make this happen!!
https://tenor.com/view/take-my-money-gif-20103453
That's a nice resin 3D print 🙂
Wow great Idea! Personalized board, on your side
I like how, in tft, you can chose some visual aspects of the board.
what brand ?
Kieran already leaked that they are planning for this!!
#💥〕leaks-discussion message
I love it
can you make an empty slot in the base where I can stash my Ledger up inside it?
Shia Labeouf keeping your Ledger safe
The Phyriox statue looks even better
Loving the leaks. Nice job everyone
You could carve it out yourself 😁
Hell No, those will be worth megabucks down the track, Especially when we are all walking around in full VR wearing our 3D Illuvitar Avatars (Illuvitartars?)
which knowing Grant, those Illuvitartars would of course be epic level detail, and they would probably have had to invent next level VR Headsets just to handle the Holographic lighting layers on those!
Hey everyone I'm pretty sure some omega abilities have been revealed?? Anyone know which?
SWEETIE!!! Look!!
That’s my job 😏
mommy? sorry. Mommy? sorry. Mommy?
Its perfect
Just my opinion, but 3D Models like the ones above should NOT be made public.
Yes someone will be able to eventually pully 3D Assets from in game and use those.
But hopefully, if Illuvium is 1st to market with their Models, others will find it harder to get a foot in the door with Knockoffs
I mean you're not wrong. I don't have so much the skillset to replicate scoriox. But I could model that base in that video in about an hour pretty confidently. It's frustrating but idk if it's a concern big picture
Ok @rigid cypress if you need more omega effect ideas you should play some classic plants vs zombies. Some interesting possibilities in there. Maybe for the next generation of illuvials. Or for a future game mode. Joking not joking.
Leaks on fire!
Not sure if the leaks are more fire or grants video developing - seems like the first full exploration video we've got that's longer than a minute or two. Looks stunning
wen release
Grant going next level with leaks ❤️
It's almost like he is trying to tell us that the ART is all done... it's just the Backend that is stopping the Launch...
I was hoping for one or two leaks today but that was epic! Y'all making it real hard to pick a favorite illuvial. Cheers Grant
Makes me excited when they say they've saved the best looking illuvials for later
Wonder if one will throw axodon or sear out of my top 2
I like how everybody has a different favorite illuvial. Already great diversity and no illuvial feel empty
That new illuvial looks amazing. It's a leak bonanza today
I agree, this illuvial has more to offer than horns. Sometimes, less is more. But I trust the Devs :)
I dig the horns personally, I feel they're well proportioned against the bushy tail as well
I just wanna pet their neck
I agree. Always for the horns. Horny for the win
Those look so damn majestic!
Still waiting on the Shia Reveal! Gonna be epic.
Idk if this has been brought up yet but is the possibility of Power Hexes with different bonus affinities or buffs plausible in game for a more unique and diverse battle experience similar to like Tft set 2?
It also kinda makes sense in the world of illuvium but it feels like its kind of hard to balance especially finding the right power hexes to implement
A hand painted statue would be legit!!
Yeah those statues look amazing. Would love to put them in my gaming room. Just hope they aren’t so scarce that I can’t get my hands on them.
Which omega abilities have been officially revealed? I know there's at least one
Everything is looking great. But who ever is responsible for the animations and effects of the illuvials well done, looks so fluid and pretty. kick ass! 
The Formlabs 3L is on the way. Once our studio is here, we'll have an artist on full time painting
Even more and more reason to be disappointed when not winning contests 😜
Well I am impressed... Are you impressed? We impressed!!!!
There was a better way to phrase it.
we can buy it?
I don't like setting myself up for failure. Cause I know if I said it you still won't release it hahaha. I have long learned that Aaron will do what Aaron wants not because of peer pressure. So imma be a good boy and wait impatiently lol
Lol, I guess I am pretty peer pressure resistant.
The past weeks character leaks are awesome 👍
Nice work team.
The live streams are amazing!<3
yea I'm watching the stream from yesterday right now and can't say how much I appreciate the commentary! getting an insight into Grants mind while working is a straight gem!
@old sierra you’re using the wrong sunglasses if you’re pickin up what I’m laying down
Who knew Squizz was one of the Sopranos?
@old sierra I Love the Banana for scale. Great touch. it Gives a sense of the size of the place
@supple willow is a smart ass
agreed
new design for T1 -> T5
I dont see it, how are we supposed to see the Tier here?
At the top of the card
top of the card
Costs have changed a lot too since the Survival preview
also Kukka card reveal
Well I think this is one of the things that their Balancing IA will be modifying a lot. If the IA considers an Illuvial to be too strong, its really easy to make it simply cost a bit more
True, there is some balance room there - I could be wrong, but my guess would be that anything of a given stage + tier would have a consistent cost.
That was the case in the survival leak
Guys, seems like Illuvium will be the best game ever, at least graphically, those leaks are insane!
How the fuck isnt ilv pumping with recent leaks and Streams. Its so fucking incredible. WTF, did I say fuck enough?
Yeah we will see a correlation with Higher tier implying higher cost, and also Higher stage implying higher cost. But there will most definitely be some wiggle room
Problem is these leaks are internal. Only the people actively on this discord see 'em. This has a smaller influence then, lets say, an official youtube trailer showing stuff. But yeah, ILV/ETH is still at 0.25, which is low. It was 0.3 recently. I think it could pump real soon
Idk i personally don't care much about the price now, it will come when the game is out, especially the mobile, that's for sure.
That isn’t squizz though.
Thanks a lot for such an answer
When lambo????? no jokking...keep up the good work
I lold so hard at this 
I jumped into the Stream a bit late, and skipped along, suddenly it looks like Grant is working on a Rendered Ship in a Hangar... ah no, that is just the levitating Battle Board inside a Giant Esports Battle Arena!
It's go SA, nothing to see here, you can go back to sleep for another 4 years
Hey! The name of this concept art is Medium Coral Buoy. You guys see that? Medium! It says… “MEDIUM”!!!
Guess that’s how you put the size of this world into perspective.
damn thats crazy
That is a mislabel. This one is the mega shell
The one before it in the leak is the medium coral but buoy
Arf, my bad, it's a mega shell one, I forgot to change the title. Thanks I will update this xD
I dont think those shades are very functional for alphie 😆
Oh ok. Thanks. It is MASSIVE!
No, make this the medium one, then do a new mega that could be its own region. Only catching snails in there 🐌
“The beatings will continue until morale improves”. 😛
@old sierra More rock, pls ser
@old sierra You rock!
Don't worry, I'll be skulling kieran with a 3d printed rock from Illuvium. I'm always 5 steps ahead.
We appreciate you Grant!!
@old sierra stabbin figurene next 
Any chance to get a figurine with monkeir bent over holding his broken ribs? 😜😜😜
Yea them rocks look good, let me run on them a lil bit 😏
Ive Painted warhammer armys for many years, this 3d printers are a wet dream for miniatures lovers
Incredible how much details they can bring up
Waiting for you to add a scanned THE rock. Imagine having this as an Easter egg.
I need figurines on my desk when I play! Will the files to print our own ever be made public? Lol
Share some more of your work if you want. Love it
Coming
Nice!
Foto de Alex
Foto de Alex
And thats the best things I was painting at the end, but many years since I Painted last one
Needed too many hours for each one
If we cant get a Dark Holo Rhampy in the game, might as well have one on your desk.... to remind you everyday of what you cant achieve 😦
Really nice painting dude! I had the same army 😆 . You will be painting soon an Illuvials collection!
Nah, Im not pro Painter. There are true artists out there that paint with an unbelivable skills. I just Painted clean and with edge highlights and airbrush for vehicles.
Thanks Anyway. Don't want to off topic too much!
Character leaks going crazy lately 
Yes, its amazing to see so many leaks. No other projects/teams share so much with their community
Maybe they don't have much to show
Could be, I think its they don't care much about the community as you do, because you care a lot about us
And obviously, there isnt other project like Illuvium in the world crypto scene
To be honest, never seen a Stream where a lead developer is working sharing it. Its huge
go space pointy ears!
@old sierra
Can you chill?
I don't want to claim more sILV for Illuvitars 😅
But you're making me
Definitely need physical statues 🙏🏻
@old sierra what is the largest size you can print on this printer? Imagine a 50cm Ramphyre statue 
Doesn't Purple signify sexual frustration??
There is a LOT of purple going on around Illuvium!
I guess that explains the extreme demand for Hearts Ablaze
Hahaha. Daily milk is the Hearts Ablaze SLP equivalent
Purple!
please dont, most horrible actor ever XDD
who needs sex when there is Illuvium
Coming from you, that's fucking rich lol
that hurts =/
love this leaks though haha. I realize I won't be leaving my house for weeks/months when it drops lol
Do you have a good PC or potato ?
hahaha 😄
I have an M1 Pro 2021 (not Max). But Mac is terrible with games. Hope I can play ILV though
You can.
I have the max and it’s pretty good. And we are still doing lots of work to optimise.
I have an old 970 GTX, hope to play at low with decent framerate
I am pumped af now 😄 Hurray. I was afraid it might not run properly.
Cool figurines! Seems like you follow the Warhammer IP, are there any plans to make it a GameFi Metaverse? It is very rich, would become a great metaverse i suppose.
No idea, who cares if he have Illuvium! 
Hehe, yeah, Illuvium is the King
I thought the idea was that lord tensorflow makes huge balance changes unneccesary? Or did you refer to other types of changes?
As i get it those files are the food for the neural network, to train it. But may be wrong
haha grant showing his brothers that he is alpha xD
I have been waiting for this answer. Thank you for making my max a game console👏🏻
heresy! you need to repent and get a proper PC ..😆
We have multiple Macs, up to 2017, and prefer those over ANY PC tbh
I have 1 and that'd better work 😄
Not gunna lie. Performance on my M1 Max is not great. We need to do a lot of work to optimise it. We’re still early on. Remember that our public launch is still a beta. And things will get better over time.
They should be ok. The apple silicon doesn’t seem to play as nice as the intel macs.
Put it this way. We do t get a huge boost in PLAYING on the new hardware but we do get a huge boost developing on the new hardware.
@granite musk Thinking of trying windows 11 .. do you think there will be any compatibility issues ?
I was busy working and didn't have time to watch the livestream for the Leviathan Arena when it was on. Grant's leak through Twitter says it has ended. Can't find it in YouTube videos. Any way to find it or am I out of luck? The first livestream of Grant working was fascinating.
BTW - Grant, thanks for doing these. I don't work in marketing now but majored in it and I have to say if I had been in charge of your marketing it's something I would have suggested you guys do. You are keeping people from losing confidence while also keeping them interested in the project. Smart move. Kudos to you and the team.
Should be fine.
thank you
3 Macs, 2 are PowerBook, all different. But yes These are intels with i7’s. And tbh we do have a new nitro laptop with i7 and 1060 as backup too. But the Mac all handle our FCP 4K production with ease if that’s says anything regarding gaming. It’s my husband that uses them mostly but all our gaming is done on a Series X
‼️WARNING: improper use of a WARHAMMER meme
Seriously! And @worn quest did a great review of Grants stream too! Grant oozes confidence and I LOVE IT
🤤💪🏻😻
TBH as long as it works better than Illuvium website connecting to my damn Metamask wallet on the Mac (totally gave up on iPhone checking my SLP) I’ll be happy with 8 bit Illuvials as long as it’s playable. But yeah, please @upbeat viper make the new website as compatible with iPhone as possible. I hadn’t worked since October, connect wallet errors
@old sierra hi what is a blockout?
In this particular use, it is a "rough design" I think. Not the finished product, just the basic placement
No banana for scale but I think I can tell how big the arena is 😉
They should always put a banana for scale. Or at least an Atlas for scale
haha my MM is connected to Chrome on my Surface Pro (which I usually keep shutdown these days). But I'm happy Aaron said I can play ILv and that's enough. Systems won't matter in the long-term cause we can afford them later. I personally don't use phone for Crypto related stuff.
What do you think about the Leviathan Arena ? Imho the graphic design is not the best it looks (again imho) like an unfinished territory in 2007 WoW :/
Usually i m just a simp for all these leaks but this is the first one i m not totally in love with
What s your opinion on that illovers ?
I’m biting my tongue about the IMPORTANCE of mobile gaming…or @worn quest will shit a fancy bird 
It is unfinished
Suuuuuper early! Look at the end, just barely a little sneak peek . It’s just in molding stage
And what are your ideas to make it better if you agree with me
Tbh i would like better a stadium like the Senate in SW otherwise a living Leviathan and WE would fight on his back
Thanks for your ideas
Yeah games on Mobile we need (though again I will not play on phone when I have a 16 inch Macbook M1 Pro in front of me and in the future a 4k monitor), but Crypto stuff are on my PC. I don't do stuff on something I carry everywhere.
God I love purple💜! So sexy 😏🤣
Don't worry, they on it. It is simply the rough sketch of the place
Thanks for your answer
I m used to see almost finished territory on these Grant leaks 😆
I would play it even if they gave it to me like this. I will not see any rough edges and errors 😄
Be thankful, I don’t know ANY developer who is so very transparent with the building of a game
I dont think i am dont worry about that ;)
its only improper from a heretic's view🤨
On his youtube channel? Cant find it
oh sorry I was on the wrong Volkin channel
I just tagged you in #🎨〕community-content lol
It's a blockout 😛
blockout was not clear for me too, I'm french, I had to google it lol
The joys of sharing WIP lol
Me too, I just figured it out logically tho
Same her mec 😂
Like blocking in film production
New word for me here again
Grant leaking us New words now too
He edited it lol good idea
ILLUVIUM is being developed on Macs: CONFIRMED @mint silo 
then that is heresy to .... but ill still play it.....
Think i will try to take my mind of all this waiting for various things by starting a Heavily modded new playthrough of ME2 Legendary edition Miranda is very distracting ...
Hahaha, that'd be the worst part about leaking unfinished stuff, people are so quick to think its a finished product and say its not good, literally a WIP. Everything is looking sick boys.
Come on mate lol, it’s a work in progress that isn’t even close to being finished
Comments like these can make developers hesitant to share WIP
Hello fellow fractal owner. Have you bought that yellow? Or you are a lucky one
First 1000
:o
I'm blue, I was slow...
Nice! That looks pretty sexy.
I too was slow with my mediocre blue 😂
#givemehiluvialleak!
I am amazed at the sheer volume of quality leaks. Just when I temper my hype the dev team strikes again! Love the 3rd person exploration, Auto battler looks fun and cerebral. The Beta can't come soon enough

sorry, super new here, but def on the hype train... when's everyone hoping we'll be able to play?
April 2022, just my guess.
Isnt the leviathan arena supposed to take place in a crashed ship? That places looks pretty dang spiffy for a crashed ship.
So the leak is the blockout? Edit: why yes it is, its literally in the leak 😂
"I've finished the Leviathan arena blockout. (Early Work in Progress)
@Kantemir | Illuvium God have mercy on your soul."
Yeah i just went back and read it after u posted that image lol
Lol no worries
Just gotta remind people that leaks are WIP, that's the beauty of being here. We see things we never usually see from game studios.
Thanks for bringing the facts @lunar hill
Maybe they should rename the whole channel and add "Work in progress"
I thought it was kind of a given but maybe it would provide more clarity. Grant also tends to put WIP on his titles
It is also clear to me but we've seen multiple people comment that the arena doesn't look up to the standard now
I hear you. I just mean if people don't read the title/caption, they're unlikely to read the full channel name. I'm not sure of a solution, I just am unsure it would make much difference. But it's not hard to add a "WIP" to the end of the channel name or something.
Is that something Grant has made on the cc stream or is that an actual plant lol?
That's what I was thinking about. That's too real to not be real lol
Absolutely stunning 
I think many systems will cry trying to render this. 👀 if they don't die half way that is.
mine wont i have gaming "PC"
Uh yeah mine probably wouldn't take this
This Grant... SUNDAY! and keeps working. So much passion
I just know 2 Grants. One can create Dinosaurs and the other can run away from them lol
At first I wondered why he didn’t work on a Illuvium project and instead working on this high resolution picture. Until I noticed he could pan around 🤣
lol too much to handle. My mind had difficulty grasping the situation 😄
Is the Guardian and Bulwark class the same thing? was the name changed?
Yup! No more Guardian.
Only Bulwark 🛡️
awwwwwwwww, i thought there would be at least 1 
is victor robot a spam bot?
they are more complex, a lot will come soon
yeah i thought so 👍 Just made the troll in me laugh
btw you've got already 2 not just one lol
Oh shit, i didnt even see them! Super valuable grains of sand 😜
But seriously, what are they 
now you guess, not gonna show it
just 2 harvestable plants atm
nice
Ohhh thanks for sharing this
Are those in the trailer that Mozart collected?
They say the whole grey square is a valuable asset 👀
it is
Those 3D prints are so detailed, I hope you share with us a painted one soon 🙂
🤔
in that case you also have a giant foot on the right 🙂
like this ?👀
LOL
I would like to acquire 1 triple monkey 3d print please, name your price.
Looks like Grant Fell asleep listening to the GingerBread Man!
@old sierra 🧐 ?
and he is just about to go to sleep. This is Grant's subconscious telling him to go to sleep earlier.
lol what is going on here
I think we shouldn't put any easter eggs in, you already having fun with the rocks
Either:
- We're foreseeing the unseen.
- We never grew up and still enjoys playing with rocks.
I vote 2
Both 
Grant's "leak" about swimming could include a whole new level of easter eggs...right, right? 
the matter of time
I was definitely afraid someone was drawing something phallic around the rock before I looked closer. I’m glad it’s just a dude.
But he is OBVIOUSLY happy to see us.
Oh yeah. Definitely gonna have a new 🙂 for @gentle tusk and @muted blaze to use. I’ll let y’all know when it’s ready.
First thing i saw was the baby rock with a smiling face then came here and you guys didnt dissapoint hahaha
@flat rose
so much content in character leaks, always. Impressive as fuck, always entertained on the loo.
As soon as I figure out how you make the most kick ass lettering on your name lol
haha, just found it on a discord username years ago
but i still can change it if you check your dm's
DMs? What are “DMs” 🤷🏼♀️😜 im kidding! I’ll go look!
DM's on this server are "Deleted Messages" lol
The 3d print must feel so cool for the brothers since the apes are based off the 3 of them, it looks sick.
i love where this channel is at 🤣
Nice, written status update leaks 
@stone aurora re: your update post mentions the hero male are done but not hero female was that finished prior to this or not yet?
Are we expecting multi languages support? 🤔
Yes Hero female was done already 🙂
HYPE
What could it mean???
Yeah. First I have to learn them.
An answer of a genius
I know you have 3 heads and 6 arms, but you also have language mods too
It means i had to learn what blockout meant 😂
@old sierra if "the skill that goes into our textures" scares you, what do you thing us normies feel? 😄
Blockout and/or... one of those cryptic messages that Aaron loves
How long after the crash does the story takes place ?
Leaks looking amazing.
Honestly, the game could be translated in several languages with 0 cost. Mods and volunteers making peer reviews. should be quite easy/fast hah
by the way what happens now if the character falls into the water? If there won´t be swimming for the moment...
You die and lose all your NFTs
If you watched Grant’s last stream in Crimson Wastes, you just walk across the top😂
I didn't notice! I saw that he was jumping all the time above the water with the gravity boots and I was thinking about what happens if you fall into. Ok so maybe better find the middle way between swimming and being Jesuschrist
Yea lol. Though it seems like Grant wants to add in swimming capability which should be interesting
It just makes 100% sense to add swimming. It will add so much more to the surroundings and environmental feeling. Seeing a deep detailed pool of water which you can swim in and explore(with limited oxygen), it just adds to the AAA game feeling. Deep water also adds to the environmental feeling their after of making us feel small in the otherwise huge world. Having shallow plashes you only can run through seems like an easy way out (which I’m not against of course, and I’m not even sure if this is the case, just guy-guessing).
For sure. As with anything this team does, it is bound to be amazing
And then when you dive you suddenly discover a huge underwater area with lots of underwater Illuvials & flora
Luckily for us they always choose the coolest, hardest stuff to do 
Yeah yeah. Like a hidden cave system under water, not filled with water I.e (as I assume you wouldn’t find Illuvials while under water).
While adding no time to ETA's hahahaha.
It's just a small change right? 
no biggie, just an entirely different kind of environment, dynamics, movements and assets to program.
Woa that's a really good throw
Exactly, compared to nailing the Fresno nightwalker Illuvitar this is peanuts
I feel like that's relatively accurate. I'd love to see him at least make an cameo someday
Yea I've got the feeling we'll see these kind of cameos at least sometime in the future judging the team's sense of humor. Might not be tomorrow, but sometime at least 🙂
I have faith it will happen
Per previous AMAs: no fall damage, if we “die” Mozart will bring us back to the last spawn point.
Can you guys please stop requesting features to be added? I want to play the game sometime this year. The cosmetic stuff can be added after release at their own pace. 🤔
that latest leak... some suggestiveness in there.. but I dont think it will even touch the sides...
I just wanna see a psion psion illuvial so bad
Psion is like a mage right?
Yes.
I hope they give us more info about base stats. We know affinities go round robin (water bears fire that bears nature that bears water) but will water always bear fire no matter what the base stats of the illuvials are?
I seemed to remember them mention that illuvials have levels as well? The leveling system for the human player (scanning ability, using higher tier illuvials etc.) Hasn't been touched other than it exists from interviews I've listened to. Would be very keen to know if there is a leveling system for illuvials and how we go about leveling them (e .g. can we grind the tier 0 lands to level illuvials? Does survival and pvp count to leveling them?
I'm also basing this all from memory from listening to multiple interviews - but take it with a grain of salt as I very well could have misheard and illuvials don't have levels
Do you mean beat?
We already explained that. Beating someone means being more affective, not instant win.
Its@similar to other games.
Oh man
Those new leaks. I don't even have words
UI is so clean and the emotes, battleboard, everything

I need that bottom swole superdoka…NOW
Finalise him already
Can’t believe Florian excludes XL sizes…. I feel violated
Doka Holmes is the best
Must be just too awesome
G4udi
oh! oh! is that a name leak? G4udiiiii
No. Everyone knows that 
The machine G4udi! nice smoking effet
Guess I missed that fact 😉
I saw those photos... I think I got too distracted by pretty visuals... no time for words 😆
could anyone explain the dmitriy father son comment? do we have a father/son combo who are both core contributors?
there is a husband wife combo I think
Dmitriy is Grant’s metaphorical son. Thank Christ he doesn’t have a real one. 😉
No procreation allowed!
Just pro-creations!
Know what, I looked at the market and all this shit and get frustrated and sad, but after looking at #🚰〕leaks I recover the joy always 
Lol
Top notch leaks in #🚰〕leaks 👍
Where can I collect my Lynx kitten?
It must keep me company in Illuvium Zero.
And everywhere else too..
I want all of the 3d statues! It would be sick to get an Nft of it and then a real life statue to go with it.
Awesome interview @old sierra Always loved to see you talking , actually any brothers taking. Keep going. I love your energy . Keep it up.💕
Yea very cool, love the informal vibe and the openness with how they talk about Illuvium
I love the one with the bat. Its very animeish. Reminds me of tokyo revengers
He just looks like a bad boy. Not my type
It really looks like one of my friends artstyle, I love it too
The whole style of Dokka emotes is bad boy. Dude is buff as hell lol
I'd bring one of those 3d models to a tabletop rpg night and be king of the nerds
Illuvium x GloomHaven Crossover
It feels to me like Aaron's use of the word 'affective' was more secret leaks about Hearts Ablaze...
Wow, those Illuvium statues! 🔥🔥🔥
@old sierra Do You have issues with hardness of the print? I have form2 in my company and they feel very soft compared to ABS
Take my sILV and give me some statues 😄 Immana collect them all
These are printed on Andres smaller printer.
The form 3L is not here yet.
That's when shit gets real
Pretty soon the whole Illuvium offices will be FULL of statues. Everyone will have one on their desk. For future discussions and debates, no more words... this will be sorted out via statues warhammer style. Winner has final word.
Then Grant shows up with the life-size Illuvial and Godzilla stomps his way to victory. Discussion over.
Star nose mole Malura is a real baddie. Soooo good 
Ahhhh the 3D printed Illuvials already look AMAZING... can't wait to see what they look like coming from the Form 3L!
This one is just.... yes.
Beautiful statues!
Can we see a Squizz stage 1 and 3 ?
Haha LET'S GO !!!!!! 😄
Yes more emote, more !
that one is my favorite so far
mine too! It is sick!!! Man I want these statues on my desk they are amazing!!! By the way, how can you get them colorized once printed? Can you automate the painting or you have to do it by hand?
go to warhammer 40K tournaments and recruit an army of statue painters
Painting would definitely have to be done by hand; no way to automate that afaik
Leaks looking spicy af, team are killing it
One question "Air Illuvials gain X chance to dodge autoattacks" - Is there a class or element to counter this? Or will this be all RNG in combat
Is this just a concept or an already printed statue?
It's a 3D model being prepped for printing
Nice! Looking forward for the outcome.
I know they mentioned the statues been used for giveaways but I hope they become an option in the Merch store! As people fall in love with their illuvials I think buying a statue of their favourite or favourite line of fusions would be a big hit. Another good thing for bringing that sweet sweet rev dis
indeed
Here’s my understanding. How “chance” has been stated to work a few times in not strictly RNG. It’s a predetermined percentage sequence. (If that makes sense) Like if dodge chance is 20% then every fifth hit will be dodged.
That's great to hear. If there's one thing I hate in games it's chance (in battles I mean, not in loot/finding things like overworld will have).
Thank you so much for the clarification! That makes perfect sense
That'd be sweet. Should definitely get an NFT that links with the edition / serial number of the statue if they were to be sold in a merch store! (Not a playable NFT but one like ones that went up on opensea)
I honestly don't see why we need to go to the lengths to link an NFT, the statue is a real world item that doesn't need verification and linking it to a serial code could be bypassed.
Would be interesting to see if people solved this in a creative way already
You’re right, not everything needs to be an nft, have the statues as a physical item and leave it at that, they are cool enough alone imo.
Man i feel like the overworld is gonna be way bigger and beautiful than i expected, some of these leaks really show the size of the environment, the size of the player in the pics for comparison are tiny haha, looks awesome, i like the dark tree with the orange fruits.
I agree in terms of verification that can just be straight from the serial number! Just more in terms of a nice added bonus for those who like NFT collection as well to have an animated version of the statue that has the illuvial moving or doing it's omega or something could be cool.
Sorry misread, I agree the verification comes from just having the physical statue*
So we’re just gonna ignore this one? Is this a Poddle moth stage 3? 👀
Are we seeing horns, antennas and wings here? Just got a bit of everything going on
Lol I thought it was the elk. But there is certainly a moth there. Maybe it’s the shadows of both the moth and the elk at the same time.
The moth have some kind of horns(/antennas?) so I suppose they’ve evolved into something bigger @frosty imp
Nice never seen that leak before! The shadow fire leak is a leak within a leak. Leakception
Gotta stay woke fam. But seeing Rogier reacting with an emoji to my though about stage 3 Poddle moth makes me believe it’s confirmed

This is the best. I always like seeing this one.
It’s a f-ing pain in the ass. He’s playing with my feelings and I like it
Aaron makes me use it
@granite musk would he surely would
I mean I was wondering when they’d make that one fly fancy like
one awake the other
Let's not forget that @quick sigil has an illuvial to leak very soon
👀
No pressure. Memes just can't post themselves. 😉
When's the leak coming!?
https://c.tenor.com/VwnT6MivfUwAAAAM/ineedit-needit.gif
5-10mins
hold tight
Those little maps of brightland steppes are cool
Legend!
One of the things that stands out for me so much with the illuvium world is the colour palette
Looks so unique from anything else ive seen
its vibrant in a way that somehow even outshines avatar
It truely is
Leak is Live @jaunty umbra
Yesss going to look now!
New Leak!
Ohhh that is indeed a special leak! Everyone should go and check it out to see a UNIQUE Illuvial.
That leak 🔥 my down under senses are tingling. Love a bit of straya
That didn't quite come out right but I'm leaving it 😅
The Artwork is absolutely next level!!
and to think, that Illuvial was based from THIS
So are those all different illuvials? Or they were concepts for the illuvial shown in the last part of the video
They are looked good
As vetemor mentionned in his video, This illuvial has something special. It comes in a pair.
I remember playing Marvel vs Capcom - and you could call in for Tag Team Ults... it was epic!
I also see 1 melee and one ranged. I wonder if they actually come as a pair of illuvial on the board like two independant things
If so, that would be nuts
aarons gonna kill me this time
Now can you go through and imagine this character in a MOBA type setting... what types of skilled and gameplay it would have!!
but we need a bit of extra hype in here
you guys are getting complacent with the 500 leaks a weak now 😦
Extra hype... soon I will need a Triple Bypass just to handle the built up tension!
WEN SWIMMING
yes, boost that ILV token with some juicy leaks lol
@old sierra Random question - what type of chair do you have?
it must be pretty damn comfortable for you to be in it like 24/7
New Community Plan... from now on, everytime Grant Leaks something, just emote it with a 'MEH'
(we can create a secret discord channel where we can release our real excitement about it)
This should GasLight them enough that they will release the Obstacle course minigame to us as a way to try and impress
Suuuuuuper hyped on this.
Hahah. We need a Wen Swimming meme now
maybe this with a Picture of Aaron?
Hahahah. please
For me personally... I feel like I am already at top 100% impressed level... so anything more released is just already hitting the Hype Cap..
although I must admit the 3D Printed models did create an entirely new Genre of Hype for me... so now it's like I have 3 simultaneous Hype Threads internally.
Illuvium Zero, Illuvium Main, 3D Prints...
Going to need an upgrade on my multithreading Hype processor
haha
love it
but my GOD mainstream is hating on NFTs hard
I hope we can break this mould
Soooo hard! @quick sigil and I are talking about this in DMs right now lol.
It may take some time for the mainstream to adopt but.... Illuvium is the way!
most NFT projects setting really bad standards, people have become very sus about any project in this space because of it
long term the long term sustainable projects will be left standing and will become the standard, Illuvium is one of these projects
I honestly believe the best way forward for Gamefi, is to rebrand it away from NFT.
Have people understand that a Gamified NFT has actual uses, actual value... vs the NFT's that most people associate
NFGA (Non Fungible Gamified Asset)
Start up a .ORG
get 20 of the most popular GAMEFI projects to support it.
Have that .ORG provide the NFGA Certified Brand on it.
any future projects who want that Certified NFGA, needs to pay for a Review to ensure that it meets the standard of Web3 Gamification
(any maybe has categories that it is Certified as)
Wait until they grasp the basic concept of tokenomics. Then they'll be F***ing mind blown.
the number one issue rn is that there isnt a single project rn that is live and active and useable that is long term sustainable
once projects start doing this, people experiencing it for themselves will be the proof and word of mouth is faster than anything else
by end of 2022 huge groundwork will be laid with Illuvium launch and by end of 2023 mainstream may well start changing its tune, regardless by 2025 i think its likely global gaming companies Market Cap is overtaken by GameFi
That's not a bad idea really. Especially with all the hate about NFTs atm. If it continues, we may need to call back this convo. 😉
Agreed. Illuvium will go a long way as a frontrunner and proof-of-concept to serve as an example for the mainstream.
problem is there isnt 20 GameFi projects right now in existance that could even pass that test to get certified rn lol, otherwise great idea..
does he not know? 
if it was 500 leaks last week needs to be 1000 this week 
Yes that is true.
And even if you go VERY Broad on the classification of what a GAME is..
(like Star Atlas - has their FLEET Staking thing... NOT A GAME!)
You might end up hurting Illuvium by putting them in the same category as an idle clicker
Bit of a Chicken and the Egg situation
yh exactly
They are indeed. I think that's mostly from current games trying to implement NFTs which are causing the push back - just the same way as when microtransactions and loot boxes were introduced. However Illuvium as a play to earn game is not changing an existing game or modifying the gamers current expierence. They'll be coming to the game knowing it's play to earn , has NFTs involved and juicey af gameplay
that is actually super freakin cute tho
There better be a CaneToad Illuvial!
Definitely not an endangered animal
let them hate it will make Illuvium 's success even more sweet .
When people learn that you can earn money , earn crypto and actually own your stuff paying a ground breaking AAA game that will set the standard for ALL games. in the industry .
Why would anyone keep shoveling money into so called "mainstream " games where you own nothing , earn nothing and all you do is make the corporation richer .
Illuvium will DEFINE the NEW mainstream and everyone even NFT and cypro haters will see its protentional. Mainstream players are the ones the needs to adapt to this new paradigm.
This one reminds me of Rainbow Beach Sand Dunes
I think one of the things that will change the mind of most people about NFT gaming is accessibility. Right now, it seems hard and really unsecure. But look at blankos block party for exemple. You can start to earn NFTs and get free nfts with Amazon Prime without having a wallet. It is easy and the crypto world is transparent at first.
It would be really great if Illuvium worked like that. I KNOW there is a vast amount of stuff you can do as a f2p game. But I HOPE we can create an account without a wallet. With just an email adress. This will get players into the game before they have the time to complain against the crypto aspect.
and then, they see that crypto aint that bad
that might be a way to change mainstream idea
I disagree I don't belive that is a good plan. This is a crypto game a wallet should be mandatory but it should be explain in the onboarding tutorial part
He’s 💯 right. Maybe not Amazon, but onboarding via plans Illuvium has such as moonpay is a huge step to mass adoption
I hear you. But it will depend on the mentality of the public when the game comes out I think. It might be necessary to offer the option of playing without a wallet just to bring in certain people



